/btg/ - Battle Tree General

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>>31355620
GODFUCKINGDAMMIT

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>>31355576
>Battles 44, 45 and 46 on Super Doubles are all against Black Belts
>Battle 44 goes smoothly, so forgettable and easy I can't remember what happened
>Battle 45 was also pretty easy, kind of a close call
>Battle fucking 46 is where things go to shit
>AI sends out Toxicroak and Staraptor
>Lead with Kartana and Golisopod
>Focus on the croak first, as it almost ended my streak on another battle
>Choose between First Impression and Aqua Jet, go with latter because former was NVE against Toxicroak
>Fucker had Dry Skin as its ability
>Eats my Aqua Jet and Smart Strike doesn't OHKO somehow
>Staraptor uses Flying Z-Move on my Pod and OHKOs it
>Toxicroak uses Cross Chop, lands and OHKOs Kartana
>Send out Koko and Scarfchomp
>Go for outrage on Chomp because I thought that was the best choice at that moment
>Instead of going for Toxicroak it hits Staraptor, doesn't kill it and my Tbolt has to be wasted on this bitcj that survived with like 6 HP
>Croak Poison Jabs Koko, OHKO
>AI sends out Mega Abomasnow and it OHKOs my Garchomp with blizzard
All because of a single fucking wrong choice at the very start of the match
And my streak gets fucked
A single fucking mistake costed me everything
I don't even know how to feel right now, I think I'm just dead inside now
Fuck Toxicroak so much and fuck me for being stupid

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>>31355620
I bet you hit with blizzard too

>>31355749
I haven't quite beaten the game yet, but I'm pretty sure the only way I'll be able to go beyond the first 4-5 fights is if I play at the computer and open up a tab for each damn 'mon the computer uses.

>>31355749
Should've used Impression. Would've dealt more damage anyway

Welp, I followed some advice and beat it with Megamence, Tapu Fini(I love him now) and Kartana.

Just beat Super Singles Red, can't upload the replay unfortunately, but it wasn't that exciting, mostly switching.
Team used was:

Mimikyu @Lum Berry
Jolly Nature 252 ATK / 252 Spe / 4 HP
Shadow Sneak
Play Rough
Sword's Dance
Shadow Claw for most of it, packed Wood Hammer just in case Red was using Lapras or Blastoise

Hydreigon @Choice Specs
Timid Nature 252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 SpD
Draco Meteor
Flash Cannon
Flamethrower
Dark Pulse

Toxapex @Black Sludge
Bold Nature 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Haze
Recover
Scald
Toxic

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>Ya boi is Moon Exclusive edition

Also, I fought Sina last night. I'm in the middle of forming a legit team, pls no bully:
>team is garchomp, poison silvally, primarina, buzzwole
>everything's going well enough, get her down to a walrein and porygon2
>i'm down to garchomp, primarina
>buzzwole on standby
>absolute zero hits, OHKO's my garchomp
>send out buzzwole, gets OHKO'd by absolute zero
>primarina takes out porygon2
>think i have this in the bag
>walrein uses blizzard, freezes primarina
>areyoufuckingserious.jpg
>forfeit

I'm still mad.

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I'm using a Assault Vest Golisopod and a Lum Berry Multiscale Dragonite w/Roost and Dragon Dance for Singles. However, I'm having a hard time deciding between Tapu Fini or Toxapex. I noticed that the Pokemon I have the most problem with any fast Pokemon with rock and ice type moves. Which would be better?

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>>31355915
Aaaaah yeah, good ol' Walrein.

>>31355929
Go for Tapu Fini and Taunt, you will love him after that.

>kiawe is in sun
:^)
>guzma is moon exclusive
:^(

Why cant i have all the bara in one game

>>31356045
Well you all get sina...but I will say I love how much of an absolute pushover dexio is and I don't ever want to face plumeria and that mega gengar.

Game exclusive trainers and fashion was a dumb idea.

>>31356045
Exclusives were a mistake. If anything I would've wanted a lot more unique trainers. Tired of Grimsley and Sina already, it's 75% them

Hey can the OP have the battle tree speed tiers put in next time? I'm sure someone will get use out of this.

>scarf chomp is the 2nd fast pokemon in the tree

http://pastebin.com/0QBULpdW

>>31355749
>Using a Water move on a Pokemon that potentially has Dry Skin
>Not having Focus Sash on Kartana in Doubles
>Relying on Outrage which selects its target randomly
Honestly you fucked up at least three times during the match. Can't blame anyone else but yourself.

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>>31356045
>>31356130
>He hasn't unlocked the sun exclusive characters on his moon file yet

>>31356208
Not that anon but I never new the frog could have dry skin...well the need to use a water attack against it never rose up either since primarina has psychic.

Working on Doubles. Who would be a good partner for Scarf Fissure Machamp?

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>>31356334

>>31356334
Something fast with smackdown would be nice.

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This is going to end in tragedy, isn't it?

>>31356334
Landorus with gravity

>>31357443
Nah Red and Blue are pushovers. Red more so than Blue.

>>31355749

No mercy. You made a mistake in the Battle Tree and you lost. You should be scouting movesets and doing damage calcs, instead you use a Water attack on a pokemon whose main niche is Water immunity.

Now if you play perfectly and lose a match you would have otherwise won because of hax, that can'tn helped and you're entitled to a little venting. I'm sure most everyone here has gotten haxxed out of a streak. But don't come here with your hand held out when you fucked up. Think deeply on you can do personally to become a stronger trainer.

>>31357486
You're right; I beat him while only losing one of my mons. I was getting a little nervous, since I only had 2 or 3 hard battles in the last 10. I guess it's off to super multi and doubles now.

>>31355915

Dude wtf are you doing?

>Special oriented Water/Fairy that runs Scald 100% of the time (not to mention Assault Vest 50% of the time or more), which also typically runs Energy Ball coverage, goes up against a Water/Ice type
>Gets frozen
>Can't come back from that and win

Click Scald to unthaw and Energy Ball to hit for SE while walling its 2 STAB moves.

How do you use Fini

I feel it's different from Special rapists like Kek and Lel

>>31357443

Post results please. Battle Video or greentext summary.

>>31357486
But together they can be an absolute pain in mulits if they get the right pokemon.

>>31355959
I miss the battle arena

>>31358113

Stallbreaking and support, so Taunt and the auto Misty Terrain. I think it's the kind of pokemon you lead with, because just sending it out first already gives your team the Terrain advantage. Pick one pokemon that switches into Fini's counters and then one blanket hard hitter or sweeper, like a Mega or UB.

It's their for the evasion boosters and annoying status users basically.

>>31355959
>C. Jenner
kek

Also, damn Gyarados was nuts back then when its only useable moves were HP Flying and EQ

>>31355576
Is Mega-Kangaskhan a good mon for Battle Tree? I heard she was ridiculously OP in XY, but with the nerf to Parental Bond, not to mention the fact that key moves like Seismic Toss, Power-up Punch, and Crush Claw won't be available until the PokeBank open up, I'm not sure how to build her right now.

Is Kangaskhan just better off on the bench until she gets more moves?

>>31358182

I haven't updated yet, so i dunno if the video would be watchable

>Team consists of MegaMence, AV Primarina, and Aegislash
>Red sends out Snorlax, I start with Primarina
>Scald, thinking I'll burn it before switching to a Aegislash.
>No burn, get Paralyzed for my trouble.
>Hard switch to absorb another Body Slam, but he switches into Lapras.
>Stay in and get it into red.
>He switches into Zard on my Sneak.
>Goes Mega Flare Blitz while I King's Shield (that move is ridiculous) to drop his attack.
>After Slash dies, Mence sweeps his team

I was a little underwhelmed (probably because I used Aegis and MMence). I had a much more interesting match with a Rotom-H earlier that I was one turn from losing.

>>31358029
I was running Hydro Pump like a fucking idiot, that's what.

Im getting fucked everytime I'm at the 40ties. I'm thinking there is something wrong with my team building.

I'm trying to find a third spot for my team. I have a Kartana and a Toxapex, anyone has an idea for the third mon?

>>31358989
mega mence. Immune to ground and resistant to fire

how2mimikyu

>>31359149
All attack, all speed, Life Orb + Swords Dance + whatever Atk moves your heart desires.

Disguise basically gives Mimikyu one of the safest setup turns in the game, and his speed means you're going to be sweeping almost every team. I run Shadow Claw, Play Rough, and Grass Hammer, which pretty much gives me 100% coverage, and after Swords Dance you don't even need SE hits to 1HKO.

He has a lot of trouble with physical walls, though. Ferrothorn comes to mind as a particularly awful matchup, and anything that messes with its speed like Trick Room or Paralysis can screw it over. Often if I'm up against a Paralyzer I'll switch out Mimkyu just so that I can have him available for later as a Switch-In/Revenge sweeper.

My current team is Mimikyu, Aegislash, Toxapex, and I got to Floor 30 with them last night.

Some anons seem to be having an ass of a time with super doubles, so i'll post my team that got me the 50 streak

Aerodactyl @ Aerodactylite
Adamant Nature 252 ATK / 252 SPD / 6 HP
-Iron Head
-Rock Slide
-Fire Fang
-Sky Drop

Porygon-Z @ Normalium Z
Timid Nature 252 SPA / 252 SPD / 6 DEF
-Thunderbolt
-Ice Beam
-Conversion
-Psychic

Tapu Koko @ Life Orb
Naive Nature 252 SPA / 252 SPD / 6 ATK
-Thunderbolt
-Dazzling Gleam
-Grass Knot
-Brave Bird

Aegislash @ Weakness Policy
Quiet Nature 252 SPA / 110 SPDEF / 110 DEF / 38 HP
-King's Sheild
-Shadow Ball
-Flash Cannon
-Shadow Sneak

Using Mega-Aerodactyl's Sky drop, take the opponent less likely to attack M-Aero, or the faster opponent into the air.
Conversion up that Pory-Z and hopefully the 2nd opponent targeted M-Aero and missed.
You hopefully now have a full health Z-conversion Pory-Z.
If M-Aero faints, all the better. Send in Koko and you now have a boosted Pory-Z under Elec-terrain.
Enjoy your wins anons.

>>31359363
Am I weird for having my Mimikyu set include Leech Life with Shadow Sneak, SD, and Play Rough?. I got to 70 with it and two UBs, and i can hit Ferro for neutral damage

>>31359584
Yeah I mean that makes sense too. Honestly I've been thinking about dropping Wood Hammer because the recoil isn't usually worth the damage, but I'm still looking for a replacement. I'll consider Leech.

>>31356248
How?

>>31359584
Ooh, I just realized another option is Facade. Not as good for sweeping, but since Mimikyu is particularly vulnerable to status effects, it'd be a nice counter to opponents who want to open up with Toxic/Thunder Wave/Will-o-Wisp.

>>31359551
Also..

Aegislash is mostly there for keks, but can be a kickass wall/sweeper if needed, especially in WP activates.
Is also a blast under trick room too

>>31359584

Not at all anon, my first Mimikyu had leech life and went massively far.
But if your other mons already have Grass, Dark and Psychic coverage, it's probably not neccessary.
Also I found Lum Berry on Mimikyu as a better option, life orb is kind of unnecessary after a swords dance.

>>31358403
Haven't used Megamom yet, but I'd be running Facade on it, coz of all the status hacks.
Also Sucker Punch / Crunch for the ghosts.

I fucking got 50 in Multis, holy SHIT
My team:

Kartana @ Focus Sash
Timid Nature, max speed+attack
Leaf Blade
Smart Strike
Night Slash
Sacred Sword

Primarina @ Assault Vest
Bold Nature, 252 HP/120 Def/138 SpA
Scald
Moonblast
Ice Beam
Energy Ball

Partner Kiawe, he had
Kangaskhan @ Kangaskhanite
Fake Out
Sucker Punch
Facade
Rock Slide

Salazzle @ Focus Sash
Fire Blast
Nasty Plot
Fake Out
Sludge Bomb

Kartana sweeped often with Beast Boost, Kangaskhan's fake outs either helped with getting me one kill or flinching either one. Not going to write too much because I don't know what to write really.
Now to singles and doubles. Holy fug.

>>31359816
>Also I found Lum Berry on Mimikyu as a better option, life orb is kind of unnecessary after a swords dance.

That's true, I just like to use it as extra insurance vs bulky sweepers, especially the ones I can't SE.

I think mastering Mimikyu means understanding exactly how much damage potential you have at any given moment. Sometimes you can just swat with an unbuffed Shadow Claw, sometimes you really need that Swords Dance turn, sometimes you need to figure out if the 20 extra BP from Play Rough is worth the chance at missing (90% Accuracy my fucking ass...).

Life Orb smooths a lot of those calculations out, but I can see how Lum Berry is a better option if you have enough experience.

>6 DD mega Sala
>outsped by fresh Aerodactyl

whaddafug??

>>31360080
Nature and EV spread on that Mence?

>>31360080
what moves were being used? That doesn't sound like it should happen.

>>31360124
>>31360131

EVs: 252 HP / 36 Atk / 4 Def / 196 SpD / 20 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Return
- Substitute
- Dragon Dance
- Roost

No quick claw warning or anything, and he just used Rock Slide

Thank god I didn't flinch and went on to sweep but ??

>>31360151
Did something manage to set up Tailwind?

>>31360158
Nope

Cynthia with scarfchomp and expert belt togekiss or Wally with megachomp and assault vest magnezone? I'm leaning towards Wally.

>the same move over and over again on the same Pokemon is sometimes Super Effective, sometimes not

What's doing that?

>>31360870
Explain.

>>31360897
Salamance out with Sub
Electivire uses Rock Slide
It's Super Effective!
Electivire uses Rock Slide
No Super Effective sound, or notice, or high damage

??

>>31360912
Did you use Roost?

>>31361016
Yeah

>>31361235
How do you breathe?

>>31361235
That's why. Roost removes the Flying-type from Mons who have it and use the move.

>>31361269
Ahhh

>>31361267
By not inhaling every scrap of trivia about every move in this children's game and feeling strangely superior for it

>>31358197
That's because they're a power couple

>Modifier sweeps are hard to set up and time consuming
>Stalls are even worse
>Game cheats at every turn as soon as you pass 50
>Is not even close to what you'd need to win in a battle against a person
>No 200 stamp (?)

This is starting to feel unsatisfying. Maybe I should switch to doubles and multis instead.

How to use Tapu Bulu for trick room super doubles? Choice band and just whack everything? Pair it with alolan golem that could be be banded into rock slide instead?

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>>31355576
How do I make a mega-zam team good?

Obviously need a good fairy mon to cover his dark weakness but what else.

>>31362472
Going to try assault vest for now

>>31362540
Tapu Lele and laugh at everything that has Sucker Punch or Shadow Sneak.

>>31362730
what should my phys tank be then, EQ spams destroys me.

>>31362919
Skarmory or Celesteela.

>>31362730
>Tapu Lele and laugh at everything that has Sucker Punch or Shadow Sneak.
What? Did you mean Tapu Fini?

What's a good tailwind support for multis with sandstorm mega garchomp/togekiss? I was thinking talonflame since it isn't weak to ice beam like other flying types and it can wisp. Would whimsicott be better since it's priority tailwind?

>>31363196
>what is terrain

>>31363308
Oh I confused Terrains. My bad.

is battle tree any representation of competitive online battles?

>>31361663
Get a whirlwind or haze poke

How do I make Rampardos good?
I really want to use him but I don't know how to build

>>31363396
Trick Room with Oranguru

>>31363336
Sort of... Main difference being no 6v6
But the AI is obviously a lot more retarded..
That and some anons have said the AI uses illegal sets

>>31363396
Maybe invest 252 in both DEF and SP DEF and 6 in HP
Throw an ass vest on for good measure, as i doubt you'll be using any status with that thing.

>Or get something better

Just got to 40 wins in singles. You guys think I'll make it to 50?

are pokemon in the battle tree registered to your pokedex?

So how does this sound for a Super Doubles:

Oranguru @Wiki Berry (Telepathy)
Modest Nature 252 HP / 200 DEF / 56 SpA
Instruct
Psychic
Trick Room
Protect
(May use a capsule to switch to Inner Focus)

Golipsopod @Assault Vest (Emergency Exit)
Adamant Nature 252 HP / 252 ATK / 4 SpD
First Impression
Liquidation
Poison Jab
Aqua Jet

Drampa @Sitrus Berry (Berserk)
Modest Nature 252 HP / 146 SpA / 106 SpD / 4 DEF
Roost
Hyper Voice
Flamethrower
Draco Meteor

Toxapex @Black Sludge (Merciless)
Bold Nature 252 HP / 40 SpA / 204 SpD / 16 DEF
Baneful Bunker
Scald
Sludge Bomb
Wide Guard

Are there any slow mons (Trick Room Level) that have access to a strong priority move or Fake Out, that are better than Golipsopod?
I think I might have to also rebreed another Oranguru with Inner Focus and a Quiet or other SpD lowering nature...

>>31363508
Lost on battle 48 to a veteran with Mega Manectric. Damn it all.

>>31363587
Trust me, you want inner focus on oranguru. One good fake out can end your streak like it's nothing. Now, toxapex isn't great for trick room because trick room should be inherently more offensive than defensive.
I use drampa and it's great but I can't imagine roost being very useful. You can get double targeted and die anyway and if you're roosting then that's another turn of trick room gone
If you also want priority then don't forget that scizor's base speed is only 65 and it works well in trick room. Your fake out users are hariyama which is quite good, scrafty, and incineroar.

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does this wild ride end

?
>doing doubles

>>31363827
I have come to realize that any time I see an ice or normal type, shenanigans are sure to follow.

while they continue to throw legendaries at me, they're a lot less problematic than normal gimmicky battle tree nonsense
>first turn blizzard freeze
>status spam in general
>really random and unpredictable use of protect
>fighting a mega mence

>>31363587

As the other poster said, you probably want Inner Focus Oranguru for Trick Room setter. Telepathy is better for Instruct EQ shenanigans with ScarfChomp and the like. You could also use Tsareena/Bruxish to block Fake Out, but their speed tiers are too awkward for Trick Room use; Lele is too much of a liability, as well.

If you want something bulky/supportive, I recommend Comfey over Toxapex. Comfey has great Synergy with Drampa, having a priority heal to constantly allow Drampa to dip in and out of Berserk procs. It can Drain Kiss to sustain itself, and isn't hindered too much by Trick Room due to Triage. It also covers Drampas Fighting/Dragon weakness pretty well.

Although, I tend to find lack of a Mega/Z Crystal on teams to be taxing in later fight. It's always nice to have a giant nuke to completely take out a huge threat. It's hard for the current Mega selection to work well in Trick Room, but I've been thinking about trying a Z-Draco Meteor Drampa for some time. I find Drampas STAB options to be horrendous together, since they cover next to nothing (And it ignores his absolutely crazy coverage options), but a huge Meteor that doesn't lower SPA might be the solution.

>>31363827
What's your team?

>>31363889
good advice (not the guy who asked but yea)

I've sort of been forced to be gimmicky as hell and use lele + megagross as my lead.
>it's pretty brainless

>>31355749
Never forget immunity abilities nigga. I have a mental list of pokemon that are possibly immune to some types and just never use them against them.

>>31357443
>when my SD Mimikyu swept Red
good times

>>31363897
for a while I was using lele and shell smash cloyster but they started throw those intimidate teams at me and it sort of failed

currently I'm doing:
Megagross and lele as lead because it only takes a brain stem and battle tree above like 50 is bullshit

while less glamorous, my other two have been very very clutch
>poison touch bulky a-muk w/ sludge
>storm drain gastrodon w/ sitrus + recovery

I know eventually they will throw some extreme bullshit (already encountered the fissure party around 60-79), but this team now actually handles legendaries really well

Alright guys, I'm struggling a little bit. I've been using mimikyu with a lum berry and it goes really well up until 40 wins then the counter picks get too much. I have been running it with Mega Mence and A-Nintails. Any suggestions for other mons I could run instead to allow for better coverage?

>>31363929
you need some bulk. porygon 2, Fini (maybe) toxapex (eh), or do what I do, gastrodon

or use mega mence and aegislash because they compliment each other almost flawlessly

>>31363948
So if i was running megamence and aegislash I'm guessing leave mimikyu out? Or leave it in to fool the A.I into stacking some ghost types to beat up on.

>>31363974
mimikyu has some cool uses but it'll eventually become a liability in the tree.

aegislash + mega mence and a decent wall will carry you pretty far.
make sure you do a special aegislash so you aren't dominated by burn or shit with flame body because that's real

>>31363929
I've been running mimikyu as a lead. with mega Scizor and garchomp.

>>31363974

You'd probably have to drop Mimikyu for Tapu Fini. MMence/Fini/Aegis is pretty hard to break through, covering every weakness except Electric and Ghost, but each providing immunities. Also, Fini can block status effects for both, as well as Taunting anything that tries to be annoying.

>>31363827
Dexio is a joke
>>31363852
And Yeah legend teams are usually much easier than the shit you encounter earlier.

>>31364002
Maybe, but for some fucking reason I can never beat sina. She always fuckin ends my run.

>>31364002
I do recall maison being a lot harder too

I'm at 150 now and while lele usually dies, a-muk honestly ends up carrying my team

>>31363997

Actually, disregard this; I just remembered Misty Terrain doesn't help MMence. However, Fini can still Taunt anything that tries to Will-o-Wisp. Or I guess time a Roost when you expect a status effect, but that seems pretty impractical. Still, Fini is a good, bulky option to pair with the two of them, since neither Mence nor Aegislash really have status moves in their repertoire.

>>31363982
Alright, well my aegislash is modest. I'll try Mence and Aegislash, with porygon2 as the wall. Who's the best opener?

>>31363992
Scarf chomp? I don't have a mega scizor but I have a celesteela so maybe that would do the same thing.

>>31364043
My fini is pretty garbage on the IV and nature side and is the only tapu I'm yet to EV train. I might try trading for a better one

>>31364110

I'd say it's worth it, if you can. Fini is easier to work with than the other Tapus, and its Terrain is the least likely to fuck yourself over. Koko could work alright, too, in terms of coverage/power, but I notice that bringing Koko tends to lure out trainers with Jolteon/Raikou/etc. While not a huge threat on their own, they become hard to deal with when Elec terrain is up and there's no ground type/A-Marowak to absorb those bolts. Fini does seem to attract anything other than those oddball Energy Ball/Grass Knot user.

>>31363889
>>31363643

Comfey and Hariyama.

I'll look into these guys. Any build suggestions?

And I think I might try out Z-Draco on Drampa and see how effective it is.

>>31364093
open with mence always. he's typically guaranteed to get a ko. if he can't, go to the sword and you should be fine. porygon2 is a pretty good choice there.

I haven't done singles past 50 so I'm not sure what kind of garbage awaits you farther up

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This team got me to 50.

Gyarados @ Gyaradosite
Adamant 252Atk / 252Spe
Protect
Dragon Dance
Waterfall
Crunch

Hydreigon @ Dragonium Z
Timid 252SpA / 252 speed
Protect
Draco Meteor
Dark Pulse
Flamethrower

Marowak-A @ Thick Club
Ability: Lightning Rod
Adamant 248 HP / 16 Atk / 112 SpD / 132 Spe
Protect
Flare Blitz
Shadow Bone
Bonemarang

Primarina @ Assault Vest
Bold Nature 252 HP / 120 Def /138 SpA
Scald
Moonblast
Pyschic
Energy Ball

took me two tries to reach 50. After the first failure (@46) I decided to switch leads making hydreigon lead instead of marowak and switched earthquake to crunch on gyarados. crunch got better results.Type wise this team has some good synergy. Hydreigon's purpose is to nuke someone with devastating drake turn one and hopefully take them out. higher up in the ladder (40+) some opposing mons are bulky enough to tank a drake so choose wisely on which mon to nuke. If he's threatened just switch to marowak since he covers almost all of hydreigon's weaknesses (primarina covers the dragon), or switch into marowak when you know the opponent is going to throw an electric attack out and get a d.dance with gyarados. being able to switch types with gyarados is very good but you have to know when it's appropriate when to mega evolve and not. there were plenty of times where I didnt mega evolve and you dont always need to because regular gyarados still hits pretty hard. Decided to test out the primarina set that's been going around and its very good. You could probably take out psychic for ice beam though I dont think it matters. The marowak ev set up was taken straight from smogon, you could probably invest some speed evs into more bulk if you want.The only difficult encounter I really had was at @49 against an all fairy trainer that used gardevoir, mega mawile, mimikyu, and sylveon. Blue encounter had easy mons so I 4-0'd him.

>>31364690
forgot to mention that this lead excels in shutting down trick rooom set ups since almost all of the users in the tree are weak to dark. Just double team that pokemon so they dont get it off. one time I wasnt able to so I protect stalled it out.

Just beat Super Singles Battle 200... What now?

>>31364721
multis :^)

Just want to say thanks to the guy that posted the a-ninetales, m-gyarados, mixed aegislash set.

After 6 attempts all with various teams, the above team got me to 50 wins on the 7 th attempt. I used this team throughout the 50 wins.

Again, thank you for ending my frustration.

>>31365136
I am similarly bad

Please repost the set

Just beat super doubles with Fightinium-Z Naive Phero, Specs Lele, Scarf Kartana and Sash Nihilego. Slapped Trick Room on Nihilego and never had any problems with Trick Room teams. Lele and Pheromosa kill most stuff that don't resist them, Nihilego perfectly covers Kartana and Pheromosa's weaknesses, and everyone being grounded makes the entire team immune to priority.

>>31365152
Ninetales-Alola @ Light Clay
Ability: Snow Warning
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Aurora Veil
- Encore
- Moonblast
- Freeze-Dry

Gyarados @ Gyaradosite
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Crunch
- Earthquake
- Waterfall

Aegislash @ Weakness Policy
Ability: Stance Change
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Quiet Nature
- King's Shield
- Shadow Sneak
- Sacred Sword
- Shadow Ball

>>31365204
I'm still on the streak with this team. Battle 56. I'm barely paying attention as well. The synergy is ridiculous.

>>31363336

Not really, top dogs in 3v3 Singles are just inherently different than the viable pokemon in 6v6 Singles. Especially considering you're taking on the Tree, not a person, so you come across some of the most bizarre sets ever. Plus evasion isn't banned.

Mimikyu and Primarina aren't the best choices for a team of 6 but they can be very good lead pokemon on a team of 3 in the BY. Shit like Mega Mence, Megagross, Tapu Koko and Lele, and Porygon-Z are great in both formats.

>>31363642

What kind of moveset was the M-Manectric running? I'm guessing TBolt, Flamethrower or Overheat, and Volt Switch? Did you see a 4th move?

>>31365136
You're welcome :)

>>31365152
Ninetales-Alola @ Light Clay
Ability: Snow Warning
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Aurora Veil
- Encore
- Moonblast
- Freeze-Dry

Gyarados @ Gyaradosite
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Crunch
- Earthquake
- Waterfall

Aegislash @ Weakness Policy
Ability: Stance Change
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Quiet Nature
- King's Shield
- Shadow Sneak
- Sacred Sword
- Shadow Ball

And again I'll mention this again. Encore is VERY useful, do not get rid of it.

>>31366660
And no, you don't really need 0 Attack IVs, and that is hard to get in cart. But it is nice to reduce Foul Play damage.

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I was always a pokemon pleb and never knew anything like IVs or EVs ever existed. Now I'm getting into it, and my first 30 chain Ditto had his 4 perfect IVs except for HP and Speed which are Very Good. Should I keep trying for a couple 5 IV Dittos or is this guy good enough to use for breeding?

All I want to do is Battle Tree and maybe fuck around online

>>31357486

Blue beat me in normal doubles although his super doubles match was easy.

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>doing Doubles in the Tree
>send out Celesteela and Wishiwashi
>opponent sends out Shuckle and Sableye
>mfw seeing the sizes compared
Good god, the giant mons sure are getting fucked over in the presentation department.

Why is my space shuttle and entire school of hundreds of fish barely 3x taller than this tiny little Shuckle fucker.

>>31366849
Catch another 4IV and hope it has perfects in speed and HP. Then switch them out as desired to get the right IVs on your egg.

>>31355576
Question: I'm shit at strategy and I want to get my hands on Megastones, how do I stop sucking at battling and beat my amazing 3-battle streak

>>31367042
Are you on Singles or Super Singles? You could alternatively try farming on Battle Royal, though it takes a while, I think it's a little better than the early 20 round Singles that give out a whopping 1 BP per win, though the amount you receive depends on how many you knock out I think.

Alternatively stick around and see if people post teams, usually ones involving Tapus or UBs work well. I posted a Ninetales/Gyarados/Aegislash one, but before I got Gyarados Mega Stone, I just stuck a Wacan Berry. I still do not have enough BP for any more than 3 Mega Stones, but I'm getting there.

>>31367099
Singles. (I suck at any Battle type except Rotation and I still mourn those, I even managed to hit 50 with those in XY) and farming with stunning 1BP is a bit too hard, considering how quickly I get obliterated.
Guess I will try to look around but so far I'm horrible.

>>31366849
You'll still need a Destiny Knot for those IVs to pass. I caught multiple Dittos for breeding purposes, so I suggest you do the same.

>>31366660
>aegislash
>quiet
For why

>>31367122
>50 in rotation
What did you use? That and triple are the two I haven't managed to get the trophy in

>>31367122
I really wish I could post some Battle Videos on how I did it to help out, but the stupid update destroyed my videos and I do not think I can reproduce them. And yeah, they really did a disservice for making Singles introduce you to already competitive mons. Are there particular Pokemon you like? We could try to build a team around it. Everyone here seems to recommend Tapu Koko, but I have not caught mine yet to tell you how it works.

>>31367146
Modest reduces attack which it needs for shadow sneak and sacred sword
Quiet doesn't reduce attack

how can you not just infer that by looking?

>>31367146
Quiet ensures you attack before most other Pokemon, which is what Aegislash wants. It wants to tank things in Shield form and not its Blade form. If you can you want a really low IV on Speed. I think mine has 2 Speed or something. It also means Sacred Sword is not weakened by a - Atk nature. You can just run Flash Cannon in that slot because it does a lot more damage, but I had to Sacred Sword for coverage and avoid random Mirror Coats from Magnezone and Vanilluxe (yes they do this). Shadow Sneak has priority to pick off weakened targets, and it is good. Before I had Weakness Policy (48 BP), which sometimes works, I had Spell Tag for + 20% Ghost damage, which was also very useful.

>>31367156
It was a long time ago but I'm 80% sure it was Doublade, Bisharp, Malamar and Croagunk. Didn't try Super Rotation yet, not after first battle opened with Entei and I got discouraged.

>>31367160
I like dark types in general? I stick to Muk (I still try to find a nice moveset) and Ghost Type:Null. (I'd love to use Salandit in battles but I'm 100% sure that won't ever work, considering it's more of OHKO or be OHKO'd deal)

>>31367187
>>31367170
Why not adamant? I thought aegislash was attack based? Not sp attack?

>>31367217
Please refrain from discussing things you obviously know nothing about

>>31367217
Yeah. It actually works both ways. You can try a Swords Dance set with Shadow Sneak/Sacred Sword/Iron Head with Spell Tag or some other boosting item, which was what I did in early XY for my ingame Aegislash, and it does work to some extent. Aegislash just has the equivalent Special attack however, so you can easily run mixed focusing on the special side. Its Shadow Ball hits obscenely hard, especially when boosted.

>>31367214
I'll try to think of something, but Mega Gyarados is also Dark. Heh heh. It's also worth noting Hydreigon and Aegislash sync very well in terms of weaknesses: they cover for each other. Food for thought.

>>31367146
Aegislash needs to move last to ensure it tanks hits on shield form and deals damage in sword form.

>>31367230
im learning pls be nice ;)
>>31367247
okay that makes sense.

>>31367187
Typo: meant it goes after the other Pokemon. Oops.

Ugh I realised it is impossible to breed Pursuit on Muk without Pokebank. Not like it does much for Battle Tree.

You can put a Focus Sash on Salazzle (there is a dancer trainer in Poni Island who gives it to you after you beat her) if you want to try the Nasty Plot + 3 attacks set, and I wager it won't be too bad. Problem is using both of these will compound a Ground weakness, which is easy to fix, but at the same time it means you rely on the Ground check too much.

I really think you would benefit from a Hydreigon in such a team. It is immune to Ground and Muk can check Fairy Pokemon quite well. I think it also destroys Psychic Pokemon too because it is not weak to Focus Blast. Hydreigon can also deal with Steel Pokemon with Fire attacks and U-turn out if there is trouble. If you are intent on Ghost Null it can round off the "Fighting" weakness, but it is kind of passive. But yeah, pairing Ghosts and Darks do well for you and with right playing I think you will reach up to 20. Trying to figure out sets for each.

I have beaten Colress on the 100th battle \o/

>>31367404
Thanks, I'll take notes and try it to do cook somethign out of it whenever I can!

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>>31355576
>normal type Z moves work on ghost type pokemon
I fucking lost because of that
also I thought you could only do Z moves OR mega evolution
not both...

Beat Red in Super pretty easily with M-Kang/Koko/Aegislash, and just beat Blue in Super last night with Lele/M-Gross/Koko/Phero. Now I've only got Multis left to do, but does anyone know, do you still get the passport stamp if you complete it with another player?

>that Arcanine in the Tree with Burn Up and Firium Z
>Fire type Z move when used off of Burn Up doesn't remove the users Fire type, meaning they essentially get two nukes to use before losing their type and STAB
Intredasting.

Protect or Volt Switch on Magnezone in Super Doubles?

>>31368292
Fucking duh.
Attacking Z movies have no secondary effect, regardless what move they "came from". Burn Up with Firium Z can also be used the other way- Burn Up quickly to rid yourself of weaknesses, then Firium Z allows you to still have a fire move in your moveset (as you can't use Burn Up if you're not a fire type, and Firium Z bypasses this).

R8 my team

>Primarina @Choice Specs
Torrent
Modest 172 HP/252 SPA/84 SPE
- Scald
- Moonblast
- Energy Ball
- Psychic

Basically Smogon's Specs Primarina set but with a different moveset

>Mamoswine @Life Orb
Snow Cloak (I wish Thick Fat was available)
Jolly 252 ATK/4 DEF/252 SPE
- Earthquake
- Icicle Spear
- Ice Shard
- Really not sure what to put there, currently running Roar

>Scizor @Scizorite
Swarm (Mega has Technician anyway)
Adamant 248 HP/252 ATK/8 DEF
- Bullet Punch
- U-Turn
- Thief
- Roost

Recently got to battle 32 on first try, streak ended by Quiver Dance Volcarona, also I discovered my team is weak to Salazzle.

>>31368584
pretty sure thick fat is available

>>31360080
>He doesn't have a replay to prove it

That literally did not happen faggot.

>>31368616
No, you can't trigger SoS on island scan pokemon

>>31368616
Thick Fat is Mamoswine's hidden ability, Mamoswine is an Island Scan mon and you can't get hidden abilities on Island Scan mons.

>>31361288
>Wah why do people on a forum dedicated to Pokemon know stuff about Pokemon. Stop making me feel stupid.

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i finally got the 50 wins battle maison ribbon for my infernape, even with his bad iv's he managed to help a lot by taking down regice

Now he is ready to go to alola as soon as the pokebank update comes out

Time to start making good team to beat the battle tree and battle royal

By the way what games do you play when you aren't playing pokemon?

im going to hack my other 3ds and i want to play a different game before going back to pokemon while i wait for the bank update

>>31368636
>>31368640
oh shit yeah. you could swap mamo out for mudsdale

>>31368709
It's alright. I only found it out today trying to trigger it to get some HAs

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does anyone know of a reliable counter for heatran? I'm at 153 in doubles and I'm just scraping by when I face that piece of shit

>>31368824
Garchomp?

>>31369339
I really don't like that thing

>>31369599
>asks for solution
>gets one
>"I don't like it"
Anything with earthquake really.

>>31369662
well I didn't think garchomp is the only solution, I just have a fiery hatred for that trash dragon

just trying to see who I can swap gastrodon with. I love the dude but I'm getting hit with more energy ball users
>at 170, genies fire frogs and lati twins all over

>>31369863
It's still the best solution aside from mega camerupt since it can shake off fire moves while delivering STAB quakes. Even most of the good water types right now will fuck you over with a weak second typing, except for wishiwashi.

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>>31366951
3DS limitations are the reason.
If you have to fit Celesteela and Shuckle in the same frame, Shuckle would have to be only approximately 14 pixels tall on a 400x240 pixels screen.
Either the tiny pokemon like Joltik and Shuckle are just a cluster of pixels if you zoom out, or you'd only be able to see part of the giant pokemon like P-Groudon and Celesteela if you zoom in.

>>31369936
>Except for Wishiwashi
>Wishiwashi used ice beam!

>>31369936
do you think I could maybe swap gastrodon out with a-marowak? I plan on keeping my lele + megagross lead. and muk has sort of been the backbone of this team

>>31369599

Maybe Specs Hydreigon with Earth Power.

>>31370091
can't get it yet unfortunately

>>31370008
I think you're confused. I was saying most of the water types in sun moon either aren't viable or have a second typing weak to heatran

>>31370119

When does Bank get released? Is there gonna be a fee again? I can't wait to Bottle Cap my level 100 shiny Gourgeist-XL, got every perfect IV except Defense. Also picked up Synthesis in ORAS.

Do Singles with M-Sableeye lead with Will-o-Wisp, face mostly dark and fire leads, but doesn't bother much me. Successful run.

Do another run with Smeargle lead with Spore/Baton pass - 7 or 8/10 enemy leads are Grass type. Still Climbin'!

B-but the Tree doesn't try to try to actively tailor teams to counter you.

I lost my 102 streak against a Quiver Dance Lilligant :(

>>31370606
Nobody knows

>>31370606
No news yet for bank. They just said January 2017 before sm released

>>31370885
What were the other two slots on your M-Sableye team? I lost on battle 42 with mine.

What would be a good set for a Mega Scizor in the Battle Tree?

Can you use Ash-Greninja in the Battle Tree?

>>31371210

M-Sableeye
Smogon build
-Recover
-knock off
-Foul play
-Will-o-Wisp

M-Sableeye burns, then knocks off items, does most of the killing too (sloooowly).

Tapu Bulu @ Choice Band
Ability: Grassy Surge
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Wood Hammer
- Horn Leech
- Megahorn
- Superpower

- Tapu Bulu comes in and laughs at pretty much anything that isn't SE/sweeps/sets up Grass field for Alolan Muk who now has free reign to switch into any ground moves.

Muk-Alola @ Black Sludge
Ability: Poison Touch
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Impish Nature
- Knock Off
- Poison Jab
- Sleep Talk
- Rest

Pretty much tanks for Bulu and is hard to take down thanks to Grassy Field (and burns). Packs a Punch too when Sleep Talk isn't failing.

>>31368488
But you lose the STAB.

>>31371648
Thanks for the detailed reply man. I've been using wisps/calm mind/dark pulse/recover sableye with SD Mimikyu and regen/recover Toxapex. I think I'd like to keep Toxapex, but might switch out Mimikyu for Bulu. Lum berry & disguise is really good in the tree too though, so maybe not.

>>31372020
S'all good.

M-Sableeye replaced Mimikyu for me as the "breaks the AI" Mon.

I like Mimikyu alot too, but the fact that you have to Sword Dance for Mimi to be worth it and the lack of coverage made me drop him. I'm guessing Mimikyu is best if it leads and I'm not using it that way.

Toxapex should work well enough in place of Muk, you'll do quite a bit of switching when you face a team that stands a chance.

>>31372253
Also Bulu is the Lynch pin of the team, he allows you to switch into Earthquake with Impunity and can even save a worn down M-Sableeye from certain death (if M-SableEye doesn't die it's almost impossible to lose).

Stupidly sent koko against plumeria's poison girl, didnt know it outpseed koko

>>31372909
None of Plumeria's Salazzles should outspeed Koko

5X4W-WWWW-WWW4-GL2U
100% accurate hypnosis

>>31372292
>if M-SableEye doesn't die it's almost impossible to lose

Madden, I'm sure it would be certainly impossible to lose.

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>opponent's ninetales and bronzong both have hypnosis and hit 4 in a row
>mfw

>Heard you can get a new partner at 10 wins with whoever you beat
>Want to have some fun
>After hours of fucking up, I FINALLY GET 10 WINS
>Generic Trainer
>Lose Battle Eleven because Espeon can just sweep my team with Yawn, Protect, Dream Eater and break confusion twice
>Go check Multibattle to see if there is atleast the Punk girl as a team mate
>Still only FUCKING USELESS ASS RADA

Holy fucking shit Nintendo, 100% Bullshit

>>31374504
>getting this anally devastated by Normal Singles
Super Singles might give you a stroke
Acquire aptitude

>>31374504
I hate to tell you to git gud....but holy shit, git gud.

>>31374504
>>31374504
stop using your ingame team

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>>31374177
>opponent uses double team once
>miss next six turns
>on doubles

>>31361269
That made me think, does it remove Aerialite/Flying double stab too?

Also what's a good set for Megamence?

>>31374710
Well the circumstances for it to attack and roost on the same turn would be strange.
It would have to be doubles and have mega salamence roost while you set up trick room with oranguru and instruct salamence the next turn while you select return/double edge. Now I believe roost fails if you're at full health so you have to take a hit the turn you roost for the first time or have something slower (faster in trick room) than oranguru hit salamence before its instructed roost.
If all of this happened I believe it would lose its STAB on that attack for that turn.

>>31374177
And this is why I love electric terrain with koko.

Suggestions for Super Doubles? I'm thinking of using

MegaMence
A-Wak
Kartana
Tapu Koko

>>31374504
Don't worry anon. It took me until a 100 win streak in super singles to realize what the scout option does.

>>31374897
I run trick room in doubles though, occasionally with Tapu Bulu however which gets the most worthless of the terrains

>>31374978
I wouldn't call grassy surge useless if you have any teammates weak to ground attacks.

>>31374991
But it also helps out opposing fire types, it's harder to use to your advantage rather than a mutual benefit or detriment. Most people don't spam sleep, status, or priority (this will be used sometimes) against the tree. The tree does it to you so having the right terrain helps you more than them every time.
That seems hard to understand but I can't put it any better.

>>31355576
>Tfw Static triggers twice in a row
K4LW-WWWW-WWW4-GPHE
>Tfw almost lost to a fucking stalling Venusaur
2CSW-WWWW-WWW4-GPHS
That second match was a shitshow for sure. I almost fucked myself too, I'm not sure if Scarfed Garchomp is a good idead anymore

>>31374946
I went with Kartana, Golisopod, Tapu Koko and Garchomp and they've gotten me pretty close to 50 the two times I've tried so far

>>31369863
You have shit taste and deserve what you get then.

>>31355576
Porygon-Z@normaliumZ
Adaptability
Timid, 4hp 252spa 252spe
-Shadow Ball
-Conversion
-Thunderbolt
- Ice beam / HPFighting

Basically wins pre-50 by itself. Toss in MemeMance and Smogon Sword for a quick ride to Red.

>>31368584
>>31368709
I'll consider swapping Mamoswine for a Life Orb or Assault Vest Mudsdale, also I'll think about giving a Focus Sash and Rock Tomb as the 4th move to the Mamoswine so I have a way to counter Volcarona and Salazzle

>>31376045
I use the same set but with TBolt as my first attack. I started to encounter fast electrics and ground teams all my way through the 40s, but managed to deal with them. I got beaten just after red by Mega Zard Y, though

>>31355576
Lose to a fucking bright powder Lapras at 42 streak
>Celesteela used giga drain
>Missed
>Celesteela used giga drain
>Missed
>3 Thunderbolts killed Celesteela, Switch to Mimikyu
>Lapras start to spam surf, leaving Mimikyu to 30%
>"Oh shit, this is bad, let's switch to Salamence, it probably do the same move again right after swit--... Nope ICE BEAM

Fuck this facility

>>31376361
That sucks anon. So the Lapras was at full HP the whole time?

>>31376361
Tellin' ya mang

Either lead with Mimi or drop it for something that doesn't need to SD before being useful (a lot of the UBs have nearly double Mimikyu's attack as a base stat and are faster too).

I too learned it the hard way.

>>31376373
While Celesteela was on the field, yes
Play rough after sword dance didn't deal much damage to it either

>>31376384
I did lead with Mimi the whole time, it was my fault for unecessarily switching because one sword dance and play rough wasn't enough. I don't want to lose Mimi so early so I decided to play "safe", but the RNG decided to fuck my shit up

>>31376426
Ah, Gotcha... Another trick I saw was someone that gave Mimi Destiny Bond, that way Mimi can take those bastards to Allah with him.

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So how are people here running Mega Scizor? Thinking of breeding/injecting one to go alongside Tapu Fini and Terrakion.

>>31376490
I don't think it'll let you use Terrakion until Bank comes out.

>>31376504
it's letting my Darmanitan through so I'm assuming Terrakion should be alright as well. I'm just super keen to try Z-Stone Edge shenanigans.

Is Z-hypnosis - Tailglow Xurkitree a dumb a Idea?

I'm going to take on Blue with the m-salamence, tapu koko, lycanrock-n & Primarina team.
Anyone has some tips?

>>31377875

Biggest problem with Blue is the M-Tyranitar and Rhydon combo, due to Sandstorm raising Special Defense.

And you'll also very likely run into Lapras if you're running M-Salamence.

Also if you don't have some way to deal with Aerodactyl Scarfslide memes, you could put yourself in a very bad situation.

Otherwise Blue and Red are typically quite easy - they're predictable, if you want you can even look their teams upon Serebii and you can get a good idea of what moves or items they'll have by process of elimination, and avoid getting fucked by coverage.

So just make sure you're not putting yourself in too awkward a starting position and you should be fine.

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>>31377915
Ran into mega tyranitar but it wen down fairly easy. sash Rhypirior was later killed with a grass knot and rock slide.
It was actually pretty anticlimactic when put next to my 41-turn battle against red.
now all is left is multis.
Anyone has a good team/partner.
Or should i use the same team from doubles?
If so I think I would like to switch my lycanrock for a 2nd mega

>grimsley
>grimsley
>grimsley
>grimsley
>sina
>grimsley
>grimsley
>grimsley
all the time

>>31378036
What do you lead with? Tree might be trying to counter-pick your team.

>Moonblast lowers Sp. Attack two times
>Crits me anyway the one turn it doesn't use recover

I think the Tree has sentient AI to make sure I get the tiniest sliver of hope

I have a 6IV Adamant Aegislash, going to try a physical set in the tree
Would King's Shield/Swords Dance/Shadow Sneak/Iron Head be good? Or swap Iron Head for like Sacred Sword?
Is Weakness Policy still the choice even when it's not mixed?

inb4 run mixed, i want to try this out

>>31377857
It seems a lot of people's running Xurk's Z-hypnosis meme, why is that even a thing? please enlighten me senpai

>>31378126
Boosts speed by one stage, allowing your Hypnosis setter to edge out a good chunk of their speed checks. I think some pokemon can even beat Mega Gengar with it.

Holy fuck if Porygon-Z could learn Energy Ball it would be unstoppable in the tree
But no, and thus gets fucked by ground if you go for Electric conversion like you should

>>31378280
And yet somehow it always has exactly the right moves to sweep my team.

I think if I want to advance further, I need to build a team specifically to counter that one Mon, because I've been screwed by either Porygon2 or PorygonZ too many times to count.

>try super singles first time
>50 win streak without losing once
I ran a Garchomp, Tapu Lele and Scizor. I got shut down in regular singles once by Hypnosis Gengar but in Super Singles I only encountered ice and fairy pokemon mostly and Scizor would take care of that.

Will RNG screw me over for the next few weeks to offset my luck?

>>31355749
Just wait till you try the super multi battles. That is where the real fun begins.

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>the opposing glaceon's quick claw let it move first

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Should I feel bad for using Ultra Beasts to beat the first 20-streak modes? I've used a few non-ultra teams but I just get countered too much. Doesn't matter which team I use, it just seems like I can get countered by a team and it's over before I can really do anything.

I reached 15ish streak on singles a few times, but invetiably get owned. I used the ultra beasts and was able to do it first time. Feels kinda shitty though becuse they are so OP :/

This would be so much better if the singles/doubles fights were 6 mons. With 3 mons I feel like no matter what I choose, my team is always gonna have strong weaknesses against certain teams/mons and invetibly those fuckers show up.

>>31378529
Nah, you shouldn't. Specially if you're doing it only for the BP and/or the passport achievements.

>>31378529
Other trainers constantly use pokemon you don't have acces to so it only seems fair to me

Any suggestions for super multis?
I've been using tapu koko & Primarina and teaming up with cynthia who has garchomp & mega Lucario but i doubt I'll make 50 with that. I can use my second DS to team up but rather don't (definitly for the first 35 battles)

>>31378724
Use Gyarados and something with Levitate like Hydreigon or Eelektross.

Finally defeated Doubles after god knows how many tries. At first I tried to strategizes and use a balanced team but then I realized the best way to do it was to just get 4 fast sweepers and never letting the AI do anything. I barely made it with Focus Sash Kartana, Mega Salamence, Choice Scarf Tapu Lele and Fightium Z Pheromosa

Finally got Anabel against me
>that emerald theme
>tfw it's one of my favourite songs in the series

Anyone knows how to make M-Slowbro work?

>I go first
>Focus Sash prevents my OHKO
>Opponent goes Nasty Plot
>Next turn he goes first with Dark Pulse
What's this?

>excadrill used poison jab
Yeah what the fuck is this shit?

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>multi battke 45 with a friend
>Tornadus-I and Mega-Gengar vs us
>Tornadus dies, Mega Gengar kills 3/4 of our pokemon before dying
>Lando-I and Drapion vs my Megamence
>Landorus used Extrasensory
>Salamence flinched!
>Drapion uses Night Slash
>Critical Hit!
JUST

>>31379150
You should be specific with the Pokemon in the field. Most likely a speed tie occurred.

>>31379342
Never mind, just me being mad before figuring things out
A case of Unburden

>>31378280
Why Electric? I thought Ghost was the desired type.

>>31379380
prevents thunder wave from working

>>31378280
Go for the ghost, the AI will start to throw fighting type to counter your normal type lead. The AI is full of shit but apparently it's not smart enough to detect conversion type, so you should use that as your advantage

>>31379454
I might as well since now it spews ground types all the time
Think it's smart enough

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>>31379454
>Gamefreak wants you to lose at battle tree that much

>>31374504
>i'm a retard

>>31355576
Holy shit
HOLY SHIT
Super Doubles are down and out
And jesus fucking christ that last match was beautiful, fuck whoever says Golisopod isn't good
QHRG-WWWW-WWW4-HNMN
That fucker is now my biggest bro, I love him so much
And here's a couple of highlights from the last few matches
JNLG-WWWW-WWW4-HNZW
JRTW-WWWW-WWW4-HNQJ
Now on to super multis and that's it

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>>31379972
>multis

Best of luck you brave fool

>Meganium used Protect!
>Durant used Entrainment!
>Meganium protected itself!

I swear to God the AI. I don't even understand why you would want to give Hustle to Meganium

>>31380035
>tfw won multis
>can't win singles or doubles

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>Porygon2 used Double Team
>Porygon2 used Recover
>Porygon2 used Double Team
Missed
>Porygon2 used Double Team
Missed
>Porygon2 used Double Team
Missed
>Porygon2 used Recover

If I'm running Z-Conversion, should I use adaptability or will Download be better? After conversion I'll have +2 in Sp.Atk, is it more than the STAB bonus?

>>31376504

Battle facilities don't bother with hack checks or unavailable Pokemon.

>>31380624

Adaptability. Download is an unreliable bonus. You want reliability in battle facilities.

>>31380643
Oh wait it can raise Atk too? Never mind, never seen it do that before

>>31355576
Mega Gengar wrecks battle tree.

>>31380708
Post set

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This bitch is lucker trash and I despise her to my very core.
Fuck her AND her Lickylicky.

S6CG-WWWW-WWW4-HQXX
EBTG-WWWW-WWW4-HQ29

And no, if you look at pick related, there was very little I could have actually done about this.

>>31380717
Gengar-Mega @ Gengarite
Ability: Shadow Tag
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Destiny Bond
- Hex
- Hypnosis
- Sludge Bomb

Sludge bomb gets a lot of stuff. If you want to risk it you can use hypnosis then hex. Hex by itself kills most ghost types. Destiny bond is very useful. Sometimes you can lead with a toxic spike setter to make better use of hex. Don't mega evolve if you're just planning on using destiny bond on the first opponent.

>>31380828
>Hypnosis
I'll pass thx, just going to keep running this sash meme set

>>31380785
I always try to kill this fucker soon as possible.. Holy shit the first two times.

Post fool proof doubles team please?

just lost in 49 :^)

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>Against Mardea's Mudsale
>Her last pokemon
>Fucker killed my only special attacker
>Had it in the red
>Probably at only 8 HP
>Mudsdale used rest!
>Mudsdale used Sleep Talk
>It's in the red again
>Fucking finally
>Wakes up and uses rest again
>Mudsdale used rest!
>Meanwhile every move it defense raises
>This lasts for at least 15 turns
>It finally kills my last pokemon

I hate that horse and it's fucker.

Alright Electric or Ghost for Z-Porygon?

>>31382964
Depends on preference and team composition i'd wager. I see most people use Electric for the Tree though to nullify T-wave shenanigans.

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XR9G-WWWW-WWW4-HV5U
Tree RNG, holy fucking shit

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>>31355576
Since I didn't have BP for Black Sludge, I tossed Brightpowder on my Toxapex, and HOLY SHIT, I dodged some bullets with it. Problem now is... I don't really want to take it off for Black Sludge, but I know I won't keep getting lucky...

So question: Who's a good partner for Salazzle and Toxapex? I have Garchomp for now, but I still need to earn her Scarf. Did I even do these guys justice?

Salazzle @Life Orb
Timid 252 Sp.Atk / 252 Spd / 4 HP(?)
Nasty Plot
Venoshock
Flamethrower
Toxic

Toxapex @Brightpowder
Bold 252 HP/ 128 Def / 128 Sp.Def
Toxic
Haze
Venoshock
Recover

Garchomp @Sitrus Berry
Adamant 252 Atk/ Some oddly specific amount for out-speeding non-scarfed or boosted Aerodactyl / Rest went into HP
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Crunch
Dragon Claw

I've had way too many close calls with Ground types, so I know something's got to give.

>>31383213
Swap Toxic and Venoshock to Sludge Bomb and more coverage/utility? You already have a toxic mon later, and you want to nasty plot turn 1 into damage turn 2

Doubles team that will get me to 50 wins when?

>>31360151
Those Aerodactyls generally run choice scarf

>>31380035

Multis is piss easy if you get a good Colress scout.

>>31383252
Is that it? I mean, I had the feeling I'd need to switch her up a bit. Maybe Dragon Pulse...

>>31383328
>The Aerodactlys generally run Choice Scarf

Just fuck my Garchomp's shit up, BT.

>>31383460
I guess Dragon Pulse is the way to go, she doesn't have that much coverage apparently
Also run Sludge Wave instead of the Bomb, didn't realize that it was a thing

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>>31383345
>When you don't want colress he appears constantly
>When you actually want colress he disappears from existence

Fuck you colress I did it with best boy wally

You know, I kinda thought Z-hypnosis was gonna be like where Z-moves have perfect accuracy, but since I'm learning it's just a speed boost with the crap accuracy hypnosis I'm kinda disappointed.

>>31383145
right after this Dugtrio avoids 3 attacks in a row with Sand Veil
fucking end this shit already

how exactly does scouting work? i haven't messed around much with multis yet. do you have to run into said trainer before you can scout them? and what are some good suggestions?

>>31355576
>49 Streak.
>Sheer Cold
>Rest
>Sleep Talk
>Fissure

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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>just had a rotom-w with substitute, charge beam,double team, and leftovers sweep my team
Feel like killing myself.

I have two teams that usually get me to 50+ in super doubles, here's the first

Ninetales-Alola @ Light Clay
Ability: Snow Warning
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Blizzard
- Aurora Veil
- Moonblast
- Hypnosis

Bewear @ Assault Vest
Ability: Fluffy
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Return
- Hammer Arm
- Payback
- Earthquake

Tapu Koko @ Life Orb
Ability: Electric Surge
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature (though I think I'm going to change this to Naive)
- Thunderbolt
- Volt Switch (this can probably be switched with another special move for coverage)
- Dazzling Gleam
- Brave Bird

Drampa @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Berserk
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Modest / Quiet Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Dragon Pulse
- Hyper Voice
- Flamethrower
- Roost

Bewear is really the centerpiece of this set, with the Assault Vest and Fluffy ability and Aurora Veil up, it essentially doubles both of Bewear's defenses and with the max HP investment, allows him to tank almost any hit. Payback and EQ for coverage and Drampa and even Ninetales can take the ally damage from EQ rather nicely with Aurora Veil

>>31384586
What do you mean usually?

You either get 50 wins or you don't.

Also post the other team.

>>31384586
second team was more of just a silly fun team but ends up taking me surprisingly far

Muk-Alola @ Assault Vest
Ability: Poison Touch
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant / Brave Nature
- Poison Jab
- Knock Off
- Shadow Sneak
- Brick Break

Tapu Bulu @ Leftovers
Ability: Grassy Surge
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Horn Leech
- Wood Hammer
- Megahorn
- Superpower

Primarina @ Choice Specs
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 148 HP / 252 SpA / 108 SpD
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Hydro Pump (Scald can be used for more accurate hits)
- Moonblast
- Ice Beam
- Energy Ball

Drampa @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Berserk
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Modest / Quiet Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Dragon Pulse
- Hyper Voice
- Flamethrower
- Roost

Knock Off on Muk for some hard hitting damage and to get rid of the opponent's item, especially all the Brightpowder mons, Brick Break for coverage and breaking screens and Shadow Sneak for priority. Poison Jab for a powerful STAB move with a 60% to poison thanks to his ability, not to mention a chance to poison with all its other moves.

With the Grassy Terrain up, Wood Hammer does huge damage but also big recoil which is where Horn Leech comes in on Bulu in addition to grass healing and leftovers healing. Megahorn and Superpower for coverage

The same Drampa set as before, [spoilers] I just really like Drampa [/spoilers]

>>31384614
Usually as in I generally get up to there with these teams unless the opposing team completely counters mine, I get fucked by hax, or I just make stupid plays

>>31384767
>spoilerS

I'm gay

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does anyone have a list of all the npc multi battle partners? not the special ones, like the generic npc dudes and ladies?

>>31384824
The op isn't just for fluff you know

>>31384169
When you scout a training you can use him/her as a partner in multi battles. The trainer wil have the first 2 pokemon in his team when you battled him

>tfw got mega houndoom opener Colress

I hope I'm not wrong in thinking he'll wreck shit

>>31384824

It's in the OP.

I did the first 35 multi battles with Cyntha i'm going to do the others together with my brothers 3ds'
I used m-salamence, Tapu Koko, Primarina & lycanrock-n for doubles and I'm probably going to use the same team but i'd like to replace lycanrock for a good mega. Anyone has suggestions?

>>31385092
>someone actually used that doubles team.
Hope it was successful for you anon.

As for night dogs replacement...Having megamon on fakeout duty can't hurt

>>31385169
It worked really well. First time i lost at 47 because RNG fucked with a fissure snorlax and 2nd time I beat it.
Is megamon kangaskhan because that could be any mega?

>>31385169
Also what team would you suggest because I tried a trick room team with oranguru, xurkitree, torkoal and garchomp and never made it to 40

>>31385256
Oops yeah I meant mega mom. Or heck use a fast mega in general like mega Lucario for as backup. Close combat will murder just about anything with adabtility.

>>31385307
Doubles or multis? Either way I have no experience with trick room teams. Apologies.

>first mon is power herb sky attack bullshit
>next one has a Z-Move
>last one is a mega
Whole lineup of shit, fuck this garbage mode. I can't fucking beat Singles. Already have Doubles and Multis done

>>31355576
Tapu Koko 252 LO Wild Charge kills everything in Battle Tree OHK that isn't Ground.

>>31385418
Salamence lead
Primarina backup for ice types
Koko for speedy backup

That's my singles team

>>31385420
>using physical koko
...Well if it works it works I suppose.

>>31385467
>anything used stone edge/ice beam
>salamence fucking dies
Epic

>>31385467
Physical Koko is good. Electric terrain Z-powered wild charge kills everything except ground types.

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>>31385479
>intimidate lowers the issue of rock cheese
>switching to primarina fixes the ice cheese
>even if primarina is frozen Scald unfreezes it instantly
>dragon lead appears
>Switch to koko or Primarina and proceed to Dazzling Gleam/Moon Blast

I mean...I worked for me.

How DO I handle the AI getting all of their moves to hit despite none of them having 100% accuracy?

>>31385492
I believe you. I just prefer to avoid any recoil moves if possible and missing out on Dazzling Gleam/Grass knot may hurt later.

>>31385522
You don't. You simply pray that they don't fuck you over.

>>31385511
>convert to electric
>use thunderbolt
>opponent swaps to hippowdon
>swap to primarina because ground lol
>he swaps to electivire in the same fucking turn
Tell me this shit isn't rigged.

>>31385545

So for this fucker, was there really anything I could have done, other than rework my whole team to include a water/ground type?


>>31380785

>>31385561
and misquote, sorry

>>31371255

Either Bulky Swords Dance or offensive Swords Dance. SD, Bullet, Bug Bite, Brutal Swing or Superpower for offensive. SD, Bullet, Roost, Superpower or Bug Bite in the last slot. If you wanna try to fit U-Turn into either of those equations, be my guest. Always Adamant nature.

>>31371399

I can't say for sure but I believe you can.

>>31371399
Yes and he is a godsend.

>>31380785
>S6CG-WWWW-WWW4-HQXX
I don't know anon...Seems like that gardevoir was your true bane in that video
EBTG-WWWW-WWW4-HQ29
Freeze hax instead of sleep hax

...Your team synergy is lacking senpai.

>>31385322
You have a moveset & ev suggestiin?>>31385379
Doubles
>>31385479
Switch to primarina if you see an ice beam coming, its basicly what you have it and megamence can actually take a stone edge from a lot of pokemon

>>31385707
Yeah, I just had way too many options here, I've got my rhibombee, ash-greninja, mega-lucario, rhyperior with weakness policy, magnezone, tapu buru, and Marowak... Maybe I should just try multi-battles since I happened to luck out and get Anabelle as my scout-able non generic partner.

>>31385749
Dies every time to stone edge and Ice Beams come from whatever the fuck at around 40

>>31385707
Also I blamed the lickylicky because my rhibombee has aromatherapy and if i had known that he had fire blast the first time around, I might not have just... fucked myself as badly as I did.

>>31385749
Mence, Koko, Primarina, and Nightruff is my go to doubles teams...but again there are better options out there. I just simply like this team too much to use anything else.

>>31379138

It's not a good Mega to use in the Battle Tree because you don't know what your opponent's team is until all 3 have been revealed.

You would typically wanna Calm Mind boost against a physical attacker that can't touch it.

What's the mixed aegislash set that's been in these threads? I have a physical one but I feel like it's not good enough

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>>31385799
Hmm....Some criticisms.

Both your leads are weak to ground attacks
3 of your pokemon are weak to fire
2 of them are weak to rocks
2 of them are weak to poison
2 of the are weak to steel
2 of them are weak to flying
Everything aside from ribombee is on the slow side

Basically you have quite a few weakness overlapping going on.

>>31385942
Yeah I figured that one out around the time I ran into the guy who just spammed fire pokemon at me... I'm probably going to have to just go ahead and train something else for my team, huh?
Of the seven pokemon I've got to choose from, I have no idea where to go from there... Unless I want to use my singles buzzwole or xircitree, but neither of them are really doubles built.

>>31385530
You dont need Grass Knot, and what are you going to OHK with max SpA with Dazzling anyway, that you couldnt have neutral OHK with Wild Charge? Or in that other anon's case, Z?

It's good against rain, toxapex and cele, and outspeeds lele.

>>31386068
You'd be surprised at what dies to life orb dazzling gleam...plus I like breaking sashes.

>you don't need grass knot
I appreciate being able to handle ground types, water/ground types and steelix without too much effort. Most of them are heavy enough to faint in one hit.

>Throw random team together when I just want daily bottle cap.
>End up soloing Red.
>Want to stop since good for BP but don't want to cut off possible scouts.

HELP.

Here's the code if you wanna see Red get soloed not that it's a challenge or anything.

FSYW-WWWW-WWW4-Y8GP