TCG/PTCGO General: New Card Edition

Before anyone asks, the translation from pokebeach is:

Rayquaza – Colorless – HP120
Basic Pokemon

[C][C] Turbo Storm: 30 damage. Attach 2 basic Energy cards from your discard pile to 1 of your Benched Pokemon.

[C][C][C] Dragon Claw: 80 damage.

Weakness: Lightning (x2)
Resistance: Fighting (-20)
Retreat: 1

Also there's a discord etc etc.
https://discord.gg/chVfNWb

>>29851203
>discord
What the fuck? Why?

>>29851211
Dunno, but it's there.

The threads kept dying during sun/moon info for like a straight almost week now. Don't use it if you don't want.

Also it's a good place for actual giveaways for codes without one person sperging and taking half if not more of the codes.

What are some OP cards?
Shaymin EX?

>>29852651
In what format?

All the "OP" cards differ depending on format.
The meta decks are all full of strong cards in standard.
Expanded has a LOT of different strong cards.

Legacy is a solved format for the most part with VirGenCel.

>>29852651
Staple does not mean the same thing as overpowered.

>>29851211
he and other people have been shilling discord on imageboards recently.

>>29853458
Keep the thread alive then and also make new threads.

I'm indifferent to the whole thing.

>>29853458
For TCGO I think it is fine. I love the game and I like discussing it amongst you all. But, these threads move way too slow while the actual board moves WAY too fast.

Been out of the TCG loop for a few months, is there anything good in Evolutions or is it just nostalgiashit?

>>29853603
Nostalgiashit.

Brock and Dragonite are good tho

>>29853603
Mostly nostalgiashit.

They added links for the start megas but they're still not usable for the most part.
Dragonite EX is usuable, Brock's Grit is situational, and there's a few other tech cards like Starmie.

>>29853526

im just passing through.

>Keep the thread alive then and also make new threads.

right, you and the others keep the thread alive. it's a group effort.

>I'm indifferent to the whole thing.

of course

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>>29853603
Brock's Grit is a decent pick up.

Dragonite-EX with the pull up ability is seeing some theory craft play with decks like Mega Gardevoir and SpacE Beacon Starmie is seeing some play as well in Volcanion-EX decks as a way to fuel your damage combo.

I think that's about it.

>>29852651
Lysandres trump card

what is this cycles fullart? (the genesect one)

>>29853787
am i the only one who likes this layout better

>>29855152
Y-you too ?

>>29855152
Looks better than the Sun and Moon card layouts.

>>29855351
I just don't understand why they decided to call the new EX cards GX with GX moves. They're clearly meant to be Pokemon with Z-Moves, so why not just have "Z" cards?

>>29855046

Ghetsis.

>>29855152
Much easier to read, at least SM is better than BW's layout.

>>29853603
Not mentioned yet is raticate which is alright on its own but with the break from breakpoint is a decent tech. Clefairy might see a little bit of play once mew is rotated out.

>>29852651
Damage change Mewtwo EX

>>29856311
What makes it overpowered?

>>29856517
It's auto-lose if it gets to 3 energy and you can't kill it in one hit

>>29856620
That's not overpowered. Good, yes, but not OP. First it has to survive long enough to get three energy. And then it's still vulnerable to OHKO's and energy disruption. Gives two prizes on death.

>>29851203
>Turbo Storm
that looks really fucking good.

Might be the wrong place but I've been looking to get into collecting cards pretty much just for collecting purposes. What box would you guys suggest?

Hi,

Recently got into PTGGO and transitioning to real life play as well. I need help with my deck on PTCGO. I know I need 2x Shaymin EX but I am not down to pay cash on a virtual version. I will however purchase 2 for my deck IRL.

I also need help rating my decklist currently since I am drawing no basics and giving my opponent free cards on startup and that's lame.

Also if anyone has any links to good prices on single cards I will gladly purchase some through this and next week as I get ready for actual play.

Help my deck:

##Pokémon - 11

* 2 Flareon-EX GEN 106
* 4 Volcanion STS 25
* 1 Hoopa-EX AOR 36
* 4 Volcanion-EX STS 115

##Trainer Cards - 39

* 2 Trainers' Mail ROS 92
* 1 Switch EVO 88
* 2 Energy Retrieval EVO 77
* 4 Ultra Ball DEX 102
* 2 Acro Bike PRC 122
* 2 Professor's Letter BKT 146
* 2 Lysandre AOR 78
* 4 Professor Sycamore BKP 107
* 1 Ninja Boy STS 103
* 1 Super Rod NVI 95
* 2 Fisherman BKT 136
* 2 Escape Rope PRC 127
* 2 Fighting Fury Belt BKP 99
* 2 Scorched Earth FAC 110
* 1 Parallel City BKT 145
* 2 N FAC 105
* 2 Float Stone BKT 137
* 1 Energy Switch GEN 61
* 4 VS Seeker PHF 109

##Energy - 10

* 10 Fire Energy XYEnergy 4

>>29858359
I don't think anyone runs Flareon. Speaking from experience, you get more value out of just running the baby and daddy Volcanion.

>>29856778
Have you literally never played against a M Mewtwo EX deck before? It only needs a double colourless to do amazing damage and you aim to get Shrine of Memories out by the time you get two Psychic Energy on it (not long at all).

>>29858829
Honestly, I think the damage change thing is just a really silly and retarded thing to add to what makes the deck good.

I absolutely detest that it can actually damage change against Giratina even as a mega like it makes sense due to wording loopholes.
But c'est la vie.

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>>29858359

Here's my list, which is either heavily derived or straight up someone else's that has worked well.

There's a lot of little things I'd criticize about your list.

Flareon is pretty pointless, since Volcanion can hit for 220 consistently, which is all you really need to do.

Professors Letter is just an inferior version of Energy Retrieval 90% of the time in this deck.

Fisherman might sound ideal but is extremely slow and likely not going to pay dividends when you're only running 10 energy and attacking with pokemon that requires 3 energy. That's a lot of energy tied up on the board if you have an attacker and a backup attacker getting ready.

2 Escape Rope and 1 Switch seems a bit much. I would just throw in another Float Stone and then toss in Olympia to shit on Fright Night Yveltal. Olympia seriously kicks ass, as it resets Volcanic Heat, heals, and fucks a major archetype right now.

I can see why you'd like to run Parallel City, but it has no good outcome in a Volcanion deck. Either you're limiting your bench space, which isn't ideal for the deck, or your reducing your damage. Not having a counter stadium is the big criticism I have of my own deck, and it's due almost solely to the fact that I can't get rid of a Parallel City.

>>29859179
If you need a stadium desperately then run sky, it lets you run all your volanions very easily and lets you spam shaymemes if needed.

>>29858829
Anything that's countered by putting down another Stadium or playing Delinquent isn't overpowered.

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>>29859179
>All those energies
>No way to get rid of them ASAP
Find space for scorched earth famalam

>>29859499

Volcanion does that job pretty well.

So does anyone know the full art for the new versus ladder yet?

>>29859852
Steven hopefully

>>29859499
Ultra Ball and Volcanion

>>29859570
>>29860039
Then what's your plan B once the garbomeme is online? :^)

>>29860072
Lysandre, kill it.

I doubt this is a thing but any retailer having a Black Friday sale on packs, Tins or boxes?

>>29860213

target tins are $10

or free if you're bold

>>29860213
Target apparently has 50% off for tins.

>>29859852

It's Ghetsis

>>29859852

Can you not read m8? It was already answered here: >>29855496

>>29858801
Is that so? I actually think Flareon is really good late game, with the one energy switch I have its pretty good since I have 1 turn where I move 2 energy and Flareon does 110 with 3 energy and raises with more. I found Flareon to be more bulky than baby volcanion with a FFB since it can actually take an attack from many things that counter it since most decks are hitting for over 110-30 after properly set up.

>>29859179
Im gonna def take out the switch for a float stone, and put back olymipa. I could critize your list as well since you're using 12 energy and no Scortched Earth. I like Parallel city since it helps delay Xerneas and if I ever run into that circle circuit nonsense. I don't have shaymins so you probably see consistency differently. IRL I will have shaymin so I will see how my deck will be different IRL. How do you use Pokemon Ranger and when? I always had it recently in my deck and took it out cause I found zero use for it at all in my match ups.

I truly appreciate the feedback guys. If you have more to say please let me know. :) I really enjoy this game and it's thanks to these types of threads that I started.

>>29861882
>How do you use Pokemon Ranger and when?
Volcanion EX's attack.

>hitting that end game for 4 prizes

croppedanimegirlcumming.png

What's up with this ladder? I can't even see what the full art is

>>29861882

Different anon here, but I also play Volcanion. My thoughts:

>Im gonna def take out the switch for a float stone

I would disagree with this. Float Stone takes up your tool slot. You only really want to put one on Hoopa; everything else prefers a FFB if possible. Three is overkill.

>put back olymipa

Definitely do this. I'd replace an Escape Rope.

>Scortched Earth

This card is not a good choice for Volcanion imo. You want to be discarding energies to add damage. It can sometimes be tough enough anyway to recycle energies, even when you're only using them for Steam Up.

>12 energy

This should really be the minimum amount you run. You usually want at least 5 energy on the field during the mid-late game, with more in your hand/discard to power up attacks. I don't see how you can hit the big numbers consistently with just 10.

>Parallel city

No. Neither of its effects benefit you. Scorched Earth isn't great, but it's at least better than this.

>I don't have shaymins so you probably see consistency differently.

You will need Shaymin or Octillery (or a mix) and both cause you the same problem of bench space. You want Sky Field to make sure you don't limit your options.

>Pokemon Ranger

Ranger is used late game when you need big hits from Volcanion-EX to win, but can't consistently switch out. Like with Olympia & Fisherman, you get it into the discard pile so that it's there later on if you need it.

>Flareon

I haven't used Flareon-EX, so I can't speak with too much conviction here. However, I'd say it's not ideal to have another EX attacker. The point of the deck is use baby Volcanion to set up and attack as much as possible. It only gives up one prize and so keeps the prize trade in your favour. Then you use Volcanion-EX to take the last 1-2 KOs.

Using Flareon-EX seems like an 'all your eggs in one basket' strategy to me. The great thing about Volcanion is that it spreads energy, to stream attackers as you don't lose all your energy from one KO.

>>29862625
Thank you for your input. I'll make a switch to my deck. I'm not comfortable with remoraid or octillary since I have to dedicate a couple slots too many to make it work. I'll just have to purchase 2 Shaymin EX's soon.

I really appreciate your indepth input on the matter. I'm gonna make a few changes.

What are expected to be the most popular decks in the next format?

>>29863229
Are you asking us to predict a format that won't be here for another year and four packs?

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I just got this card from an evolutions booster. Was this a Japan only promo card when it first came out?

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Any cards that discard multiple energies off a Pokemon? I'm having trouble against my friends M Gardevoir

>>29863262
I meant now that Evolutions is out

>>29863296
So you're asking us to predict THIS format, yeah?

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>>29851180
Im never gonna be the one that starts a new thread and maybe I shouldn't complain, but can you please add /ptcgo/ to the title of thread next time?

If you do Im gonna post a code

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>>29863294
Just counter his shit with M Mewtwo. It's literally just a superior M Gardevoir.

>>29863410
Sure, will remember to add it to the next thread if I have to create the next thread.

Which is likely.

>>29863318
Yeah

>>29863415

>counter MGarde with MMewtwo

you fucking what?

>>29855492
GX sounds better to a card mechanic

What is the full art trainer this ladder? Is it an expanded card since the EX is Genesect?

Anyone know the full art on this ladder? No idea how nobody knows yet.

>>29864880
No need to mock me fag. It's not my fault the game randomly decided to hide the rewards

>>29864781
Misty and brock

>>29864781

LEARN TO READ.

>>29861022

>>29855496

>>29864937

You were being serious? I thought you were memeing since like 5 people have asked this thread and it's been answered.

>>29864781
>>29864880
Congrats on being the first post in this thread to ask this question. It hasn't been answered before. A simple ctrl+f would not yield the results. Thank you for your useful, helpful post.

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Thoughts?

btw anyone know the FA currently on ladder?

@29865032

>not linking my post right in the middle of yours

what a (you) whore you are

>>29865181

First answer gets the (you)s m8.

Did you even know what the full-art was, or were you just riding my coat-tails?

I actually quoted you because I'm not a petulant child. (you)s are free to gift btw.

>>29865287

But I answered before you the second time famalam. Nobody was giving you the (you)s so you had to give them to yourself.

I hope I made your night with that (you).

>>29865436

Sorry Buzz, but you're never going to be Neil Armstrong.

>>29853603
Pretty much seems like its main purpose is to add support for the original cards to TCGO

just pulled this card ( not my pic) its mint, how much is it worth?

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>>29867160
forgot pic

>>29867160
Absolutely nothing.

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Just starded playing today and my favorite thing about the game is coins

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>>29867509

Metal coins are great. Unfortunately you can't really play with them because they will damage cards.

Senior year of high school one of my favorite teachers gave me this after he saw us playing in study hall every day. Those were the days.

>>29863294
you might as well put some Crushing/Enhanced Hammers in your deck, if you're that concerned about M Mewtwo/Gardevoir.

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Any suggestions to make this deck better? Wish I had some Shaymins.

>>29868207
What the fuck are you thinking here?
No, seriously, what's your plan?

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>>29853603
The website

>>29868419
The deck is focused around energy denial, that's pretty much all it has going for it. I like the new Dragonite, so I tried to make something out of it.

>>29868505
is that official?

>>29868632
Yep. Click on Blast to the Past.
http://xy12.pokemontcgxy.com/en-us/

They're shitposting us.

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>>29868683
this is on a greater plane of existence

>hello!
hurry the fuck up you retard.

>well played!
Legacy concession agreement

>you have a good deck!
nice meme

>Whew! That was close!
what the fuck kind of play was that? Holy fuck you're shit at this.

> :P
you lost, just concede already

> :/
seventh mulligan

> >:(
you lucky fucking prick, you pulled that right out of your ass

> :o
you dun fucked up now

> <3
<3

> </3
Fucking RNG is shit in this.

>>29868207
Lmaoooooo

>>29868841
I just spam what a good deck you have most the time

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>spent $400 on XY evolutions packs out of pure nostalgia

>now have to live of instant ramen until Christmas

have 2 Charizards though so it's worth it

End Game and Abyssal Sleep are so deliciously cheesy.

I want to make an energy denial deck with sharpedo ex and baby yveltal to power it up.
How retarded would it be?

>>29870321

very

When did they start putting levels on card and when did they stop?

>>29871703
what's the best deck for energy denial?

>>29871887
M scizor

>>29871887
Sableye / Garbdor

>>29871887
Sableye is glorious when it works

>>29872680
To clarify this deck is expanded

>>29872121
This deck is standard

don't die

>>29868592
YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO ATTACK WITH IT...

>>29874716
Not him, but it's not like its attack is unusable. Just that his deck is shit.

>>29853066
How do I find out more about formats that aren't standard or expanded?

>>29874830
You don't, unless you mean Legacy which isn't even a real format.

No one really plays them, no one supports them, you can't realistically collect most older sets, and a majority of the game's 20-year history took place before tournament results and proper metagame discussion was a thing online.

Right now, the only way to learn is to go through the cards yourself, read nostalgia articles (Jason's doing a few, but his articles are shit), or view the World Championship decks that only started being made in 2004.

If you want a tl;dr, Gen 1 was the worst point in the game's history, Gen 2 was a mess but great, Gen 3 was a slog, and early Gen 4 was the game's golden era. Stormfront was the both the game's best and last good pack, Platinum marked the end of an era, then HGSS and all of Gen V more or less permanently ruined the game and we've been in a pit since then.

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Fucking finally

>>29874830

This is basically right >>29874918

It's not really important because they're not supported at all, even if you went to a scene to play them they'd give 0 points and there would hardly be any players to begin with.

>>29875362
>new

First week playing I hope?

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how to improve this deck? keep getting btfo by shit like zoroark and gardevoir

If your running a Mega EX as your main attacker how many of it and it's non-Mega should you run?

Example: M-Gardevoir

>>29879009
3-3
M Gardevoir SS runs 4-4

>>29879009
4-4 for my mewtwo deck

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I just traded a pack of Roaring Skies for M-Gard and then I pull one on a Steam Siege pack lel

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which of these should I be running?

>>29879942
Link blast and Despair ray.

Link blast for optimal damage against Giratina stall.

>>29880154
no reason for life leap?

>>29878569
You auto lose to Gardevoir, get used to it since it's your counter deck.
Unless they brick then you lose.

They charge to 2 energy and OHKO you.
You need a SHIT ton of energy to do the same.

You shouldn't be losing to Zoroark, you can OHKO them even with BREAK easily and they don't hit you for weakness. Unless you're spamming energies and you shouldn't be,

>>29880565
it was actually a pretty nice y cyclone yveltal + zoroark break deck, couldn't avoid energy pileups unless I just wanted to dink the yveltal with 90s.

>>29879009
3-2. Run a Hoopa-EX as well.

>>29863415
Sir are you retarded

What is the full art this ladder?

>>29881658
Yes, I am. I was thinking of Primal Clash M Gardevoir, not Steam Siege M Gardevoir.

>>29881668
It's actually a really good one this time around! I can't believe they decided to give us a use fucking ctrl+f, there are a dozen posts like yours and it's been answered a dozen times, you fucking retard especially after last ladder.

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R8 my deck?
The Entei seems to always be more of a hindrance, any suggestions on replacements?
Also I know I need another Shaymin

>>29881753
Replace the entei with a flareon or a torchic

Why the fuck does this game regularly make me miss elixirs in a deck with 12 fucking energy? Either that, or I draw through 10+ before seeing a single elixir. This game is fucking rigged.

>>29881753

-Replace Entei with another baby Volcanion

-You don't need 4 Max Elixirs as baby Volcanion spreads energy. I actually run 0 Max Elixirs.

-You probably want another Lysandre. You have to be able to get Garbodor into the active.

-Sky Field is better than Rough Seas

-3 FFB; 2 Float Stone is probably a better split.

>Also I know I need another Shaymin

1 Shaymin + Octillery can work if you add Dive Balls.

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>>29881753
Try this.

>>29882250

What is this obsession with Max Elixir???

The whole point of the combination of baby Volcanion + Volcanion-EX is that you set up whilst also swinging for big damage with Steam Up. Energy attached with Max Elixir never hits your hand and so never adds damage.

Volcanion already struggles to cram in all the cards it wants; I don't see why you'd want to add 4 of a card which reduces your damage output.

1 Belt + 1 Sky Field isn't enough btw.

>>29882033
>>29882164
Thanks for the feedback from you both

General consensus is +Sky Field - Rough Seas so I'll try that, also will add another Lysandre

Tried it with 4 baby Volcanions at first and was overloaded, might just take out Entei altogether for trainers

>>29882380
>>29882164
Huh, I'll try it without MEs. You make a good point about the lost damage from never discarding...

Would you recommend Switches/Escape Ropes to fill gaps? Only card I haven't got from most lists.

May post updated list in a sec

>>29882250
>>29882380

Btw, I know this is the Orlando list.

I'm talking about PTCGO here, as I'm assuming >>29881753 is. I have no idea about the irl meta

>>29882380
Not him, but Elixer is a stupidly powerful card and almost mandatory in this sort of deck. Unless you think swinging for 30 damage for the first three turns of the game is considered acceptable (protip: it's not).

>>29882484

You don't necessarily need to get rid of the MEs. As I mentioned here: >>29882497, Volcanion + MEs did well in the Florida Regional. It's just have found on PTCGO that doing big damage with baby Volcanion early on helps to put the prize trade in your favour.

If you do run MEs, then Volcanion-EX needs to put in serious work. If you run MEs, you need every switching card you can get really, because having to find Ranger every turn will hamper you. 3 Float Stones makes sense with Elixirs.

>Would you recommend Switches/Escape Ropes to fill gaps?

I would. Olympia is good and is reusable, but there are times when you need another Supporter. 2 switching cards will make your life easier. There will be times when you get hit with a Lysandre and having other outs in addition to Float Stones, will help.

What will next year's Standard format be?
Should I just wait for SM1 to start playing the TCG physically?

>>29882514

m8, the whole point of not running Max Elixir is that you are adding damage with Steam Up.

With Elixirs, you need to attach 1 energy; hit 2 MEs and switch out in order to attack turn 1.

Getting those energies in hand and discarding them, 110 damage with baby Volc is pretty standard on turn 1. You hit for almost as much, whilst also powering up Volcanion-EXs on the bench and you only give up 1 prize if you have a slow start.

>>29882715
Probably either BREAKthrough-on or BREAKpoint-on.

>>29882154
A crippled veteran with no arms could shuffle better than TCGO

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Hey guys, I'm looking for some help/advice.

I have a pretty decent MtG collection with some big tocket items in it. I'm looking to trade the ENTIRE collection in exchange for someone elses Pokemon TCG collection.

Does anyone know of a good place to look? I don't want anyines dump of base set bulk cards, y'know? I want some full arts and EXs and just a good collection. I have no idea where to look.

Does this link work for you guys? It won't load on my computer http://www.pokemon.com/us/play-pokemon/orlando-regionals-2016/tcg-masters/

>>29885532

It's working for me.

>>29885472
Sell the shit that's actually valuable as playsets/singles. Sell the commons and other worthless shit in bulk.
Spend the money on singles/playsets, don't buy bulk or product (pre-release events and tournaments where you get packs for the value of your entrance fee+prizes are the exceptions).

>>29885691
Wtf. It won't let me see any decklists and the page looks a bit broken when I open it

>raichu XY
>audino EX
Which is stronger?

>>29887202
Audino EX, but they're both shit really.

>>29887202
Raichu by virtue of not being an EX. But yeah they're both mediocre.

>>29887202

Raichu. It's a well designed card with checks and balances, having been relevant since it's been released due to it's strong typing and being fairly easy to splash into decks.

>>29885786
Are you using firefox?

I seem to have issue opening it on Firefox as well or sometimes in Chrome when I'm at work.
Try opening it in a browser you don't usually use like Chrome or internet explorer.

>>29887857
I'm using chrome. It worked fine when I bookmarked it but now it won't let me access it. I'll try IE or safari

How many tradeable packs will need to farm up before yo building a good non-theme deck? I have 30 right now.

>>29888372
Depends on what you want to build.

>>29853730
I've never noticed the discord thing until you pointed it out so insistently.

If it's shilling you are doing a great job fueling it.

>>29888372
100 steam siege for two shaymins, then it depends on what deck you want to build

>>29856620
I used to think that too, but you can just attack it with a damaged pokemon and then knock it out with something else the next turn. Provided you are not relying too much on EXes, you'll end up taking two prizes for one

>>29888372
just build night march

>>29888913
Decklist?

>>29889046
Don't. That deck is cancer

>>29889107
Not anymore, it gets shit on by tons of meta decks and rogues that just run Karen.

>>29889129
You wont give space to one situational card because smart players never waste all their compressors.

>>29889200
Yeah you would.

>>29889107
What would you suggest?

>>29889200
The thing is you're forcing players to play conservatively with the threat of karen, meaning they can only discard so much in a given turn. It also makes OHKOs into 2HKOs a lot of time which makes the difference.

It also clogs up their deck a shit ton when you throw back their 6+ night march fodder back into their deck.

>>29885724
I'm a collector first and a player second--I like to open packs! That being said, I've sold a few cards over TCG player and didn't really like the experience. I'd rather just swap for an already existing collection as a base before I buy a booster case of SM1 in Feb.

I'd really like to find a trading post that accepts these kinds of things and gets decent traffic/trades done.

>>29863270
>I just got this card from an evolutions booster. Was this a Japan only promo card when it first came out?
No, it was a Super Rare in Gym 2: challenge of the Darkness.

>>29869346
I just silence every player because of people like you

>>29891204
Maybe you should learn to not take 3 hours to play your first turn of a children's card game

>>29882154
12 gives you a 20% chance of getting an energy every draw.

Now, that doesn't mean 80% in 4 cards. When you calculate the probability of getting no energies, you get roughly:

0.8*0.8*0.8*0.8 = 0.4096

I am not taking into consideration the impact each draw has on the chances of the next, which is minimal. You will miss 40% of the time with just 12 energy, that's a lot.

>>29882514
I see lots of failed volcanion attempts using MEs. Baby volcanion sets up the energies so fast you will be sometimes not even attaching you energy for the turn.

30 damage, cumulative, every turn is a lot.

>>29882154
Vote archies swampert new meta 2k17

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>Theme deck tournament match using Dark Hammer
>I use Corrina to draw a Mienshao and a Professor's Letter
>Discards an energy with Born of Fire opponent's Scorched Earth and draw two cards
>Another Mienshao and Professor's Letter

Lysandre's bump card

>>29882715
no-one knows for sure, but the first packs with Breaks in is a likely stopping point. Would keep the entire mechanic in Standard for another year, then rotate out the following year to be entirely the GX mechanic instead.

>pick up a Steam Siege box
>really trying for M/Gardevoir
>get full art Sycamore, Steelix EX and a shit tone of Shitry

why live

>>29895732
Time to give up and buy singles.

How's the trades going, gents?

>>29895732
Just a FYI, for the price of that box, you could have gotten a playset of both Gardevoirs in the highest rarity and two lots of every single Common, Uncommon, Rare, and Holo Rare with money left over.

>>29895850

I'll be honest I'm a straight up newfag when it comes to Pokemon TCG.
I've gotten an Evolutions, Generations and Siege box and a crapton of boosters. I'm kinda addicted to the gamble aspect of it.

I wanna to this thread thrive more so I'll contribute.
What's the best way to go about getting cards your looking to build with?
Single purchase instead of wild gambles?

>>29895997
Always singles.
Avoid middlemen like hobby stores and sites like T&T
Use ebay, craigslist, or ask at your locals

>>29895997
>Single purchase instead of wild gambles
I don't know how wild gambles would ever be a profitable or efficient means of acquiring specific cards

>>29895850

That really depends on how much he paid for the box, the cheapest price for a playset of the FA M Gardevoir EX and ScR Gardevoir EX is around $80 on TCGplayer / Troll and Toad, adding two regular complete sets would push it to probably $160~170 I'd probably still recommend buying singles instead of 2 boxes

>>29895997

Buy singles is usually the best way since most Pokemon cards are not that expensive

What's the most competitive meme deck right now?

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New player here, should I cave in to muh nostalgia here and buy this or just buy Roaring Skies packs and pray I get Shaymins?
Would this deck actually be useful nowadays?

>>29897878
The Evolutions theme decks are pretty garbage. I'd only buy them for the coins or something.

The Mewtwo Mayhem theme deck also gives you two Mewtwo, in case you really want them but don't feel like trading.

>>29853787
Brocks Grit is barely playable seeing as its not an item. It's a tier 3 supporter

>>29898201
It's actually a pretty nice Supporter late-game. You can pitch it whenever and come back to it when you need it.

I don't how your tier system works but if I had to tier them in Standard it would be

>Tier 1: staple status
Sycamore, N, Lysandre
>Tier 2: tech status
Hex, Ranger, Brock, Karen, Skyla, Delinquent
>Tier 3: niche status
PCL, Ninja, Bridgette, Olympia, Fisherman, Teammates, Grunt, Wally
>Tier 4: meme status
Imakuni?
>Tier 5: garbage status
All other supporters

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>>29898602
>Tier 4: meme status
>Imakuni?
Remember when card design actually supported combos and alternative playstyles instead of every single card being a form of resource counting or mechanic lock

>>29899388
They still exist, they've just been relegated to meme decks. Sometimes meme decks do well though, like AOR Gyarados.

>>29899388
Why do that when locks are so much fun?

>>29899388
>>29899950
Ironically, Dark Vileplume is from the same set, so it's not like it's a new phenomena.

>>29900018
And the concept of hard-locks has always been stupid.

>>29900051
Hard locks are a legitimate playstyle. The usual trade-off to them is supposed to be damage output and ease of set up, but sometimes they print shit like Seismitoad EX, which didn't even have a counter until Steam Siege.

>>29900075
Who said anything about "legitimate?" They're boring and usually require either specific tech or substantial disruption in deck focus/consistency in a design that already has severe bricking issues.

At the end of the day, the number of people who look forward to playing against a lock deck are few and far between.

>>29899487
Standard meme decks are nothing compared to meme decks of the past. Gyarados is still a resource counting card. There are very few truly interesting or unique cards in Standard or Expanded right now.

>>29900119
You're saying you don't enjoy the turn 1 vileplume item lock? What's not to love about having 90% of your deck turned off straight out the gate?

>>29900119
I'm not any less excited to play against a lockdown deck like PlumeBox or Trev than I am to play against a disruption deck M Scizor or Sableye. I'm also not any less excited to play against a cheese deck like Night March or Vespiquen, either. In fact, there really is no playstyle I'm particularly excited to play against over another. I just get excited when I win. That's why I even bother playing this TCG.

>>29900149
It must be nice having such a vague concept of fun.

>>29900169
Yes, I find winning a competition to be fun. How is that vague?

>>29900175
Because wins are fleeting and hollow. Especially online. I mean, if you get a charge out of setting up and then reshuffling 3 seconds laters all the power to you. I'd honestly rather the game didn't simply have "and then my deck went off turn 1 and made the game a formality." conditions. I can't play PlumeBox and say "yeah, I totally outplayed that guy when I was untouchable all game and he just waited for death," That doesn't allow me to learn or grow as a player. I get nothing but to say "I won." That's what makes it hollow.

>>29900198
True, winning is only exciting if there are stakes to it. And I left out I do play this TCG primarily IRL, where there are stakes.

>>29900198
That's not how lock decks work, though. Looking at last format, for example, Toad, Trev, and Vesp/Vile had a 37% combined win rate between them.

Meaning 63% of the time, they weren't untouchable. Meaning nothing about that matchup was relegated into a formality.

Have you considered that the depth and skill can come from a player winning by playing around a lock?

>>29900249
I'm not sure why you're trotting out winrates in a discussion that doesn't really involve them. Lock as a mechanic is boring and uninteresting. "Playing around it" can involve skill, but that's usually at a deck building level. That doesn't make lock as a concept any less boring.

>>29900277
>I'm not sure why you're trotting out winrates in a discussion that doesn't really involve them
>I'd honestly rather the game didn't simply have "and then my deck went off turn 1 and made the game a formality." conditions.
>I can't play PlumeBox and say "yeah, I totally outplayed that guy when I was untouchable all game and he just waited for death,"
>I'm not sure why you're trotting out winrates in a discussion that doesn't really involve them

>>29900277
>Lock as a mechanic is boring and uninteresting.
Every mechanic is boring and uninteresting in this game. The mechanics of this game are designed that way because this is a card game for children. It's just solitaire back and forth until one person has accumulated more resources than the other.

I need to make a few adjustments, I'm thinking escape rope or olympia for situations where i can't really switch but room is hard to come by, can anyone help me out?

****** Pokémon Trading Card Game Deck List ******

##Pokémon - 15

* 2 Shaymin-EX ROS 77
* 3 Gardevoir-EX STS 116
* 1 Gardevoir-EX GEN 130
* 2 M Gardevoir-EX GEN 131
* 1 Xerneas BREAK STS 82
* 3 Xerneas STS 81
* 2 M Gardevoir-EX STS 112
* 1 Hoopa-EX AOR 36

##Trainer Cards - 33

* 3 Fairy Garden XY 117
* 1 Skyla BCR 134
* 2 Trainers' Mail ROS 92
* 4 Gardevoir Spirit Link STS 101
* 1 Super Rod BKT 149
* 2 Lysandre AOR 78
* 4 Professor Sycamore BKP 107
* 4 Max Elixir BKP 102
* 2 N NVI 92
* 1 Parallel City BKT 145
* 1 Hex Maniac AOR 75
* 4 Ultra Ball FAC 113
* 4 VS Seeker PHF 109

##Energy - 12

* 12 Fairy Energy GEN 83

>>29900529
Have you tried
-2 max elixir
+2 mega turbo
With the 4 sycamores you would probably find the mega turbo reliable

>>29900887
I have a hard time understanding how people can justify fewer than 4 Mega Turbo in any Mega deck
It's like, the point of the game is to set up faster than your opponent
Why wouldn't you include max copies of the non-recyclable card that does that for free

>>29900899
I agree with you. If i was running this deck i would ditch the xerneas line and run 4 mega turbo, and kefleki.

However since the deck was running xerneas i thought a mega turbo, max elixr split would be best for setting up

>>29900899
Because not every mega needs that much energy and having too much mega turbos can clog up your deck.

M-Scizor for example only needs 2 energy so that means realistically you should be able to setup and attack your m-scizors easily enough that most of your mega turbos will become trash cards.
Mega Turbos worth depends on the mega.

>>29901318
>Because not every mega needs that much energy
It's not about fueling high energy costs. It's about making sure you can actually attack every turn. It's about being able to streamline attackers off the bench when they're needed. It's about keeping up and putting resources on the board.

>M-Scizor for example only needs 2 energy so that means realistically you should be able to setup and attack your m-scizors easily enough that most of your mega turbos will become trash cards.
Mega Turbos worth depends on the mega.
Read above. What happens when your M Scizor gets knocked out and the one on your bench has zero (0) energies on it because your deck relies on attaching from the hand?

>having too much mega turbos can clog up your deck.
It's an item card that can goes live on turn two, it should absolutely never clog. And think about the above scenario. Now that your zero (0) energy M Scizor is staring down a fully-powered opponent in the active, do you really think you'll be able to fish for your out if you're only running two of them? Don't forget they're non-recyclable and you shouldn't be running Skyla.

I just recently started getting into the card game. I got a deck from Evolutions and one from Fates Collide. How are all the recent sets? Good to get into or are they all garbage?

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>>29900529

Newfag question: How come you wouldn't run Wonder Energy in a deck that has Gardevoir and Xerneas?

>>29903001
Special Energies don't work with Max Elixer, Mega Turbo, or Xerneas's attack
Special Energies can be discarded via Enhanced Hammer, M Scizor, and more, unlike Basic Energies
Wonder Energy isn't a good card

>>29903001
>>29903340

These are good reasons not to use pretty much any of the special energies which provide just 1 energy (apart from Rainbow). They have some uses, but too many useful cards only work with basic energy for them to make it into many decks. Also, special energy discard/denial (such as with Giratina-EX) is far more prevalent than for basic energies.

That said, the point about M Scizor-EX is pretty irrelevant in this case. You're getting hit for 240, so the energy loss is the least of your worries.

>>29905108
>That said, the point about M Scizor-EX is pretty irrelevant in this case. You're getting hit for 240, so the energy loss is the least of your worries.

Pretty irrelevant? It's actually just plain wrong. Wonder energy prevents Scizor from discarding it.

>>29905395
No it doesn't. You should try it some time.

>>29905418

In what world does it not? The discarding in an effect of Scizor's attack.

>>29905474
Ask PTCGO

>>29905474
>The discarding in an effect of Scizor's attack.
Yes. It's an effect that affects a Special Energy attached to the defending Pokemon.
Wonder Energy prevents the effects of attacks from affect the Pokemon it's attached to.

Does Wonder Energy say it prevents the effects of attacks from affecting cards attached to the Pokemon? There's your answer.

It's weird how people can read ambiguous keyword-filled YGO and MTG cards without blinking, but Pokemon's unambiguous plain English makes people struggle to understand basic logic. There are people out there who unironically don't understand how Ranger works, for example.

What's up with the ladder? Rewards are now hidden? Haven't played in a while, it used to be shown... I can't even see what the full art is, I'm only grinding if it will be worth it like with N or Sycamore

Hey guys, I've been a social shut in for months now, I'm going to my first real life tournament on thursday.

I didn't have a complete deck so I bought a standard hoopa one, do you think this'll be good/decent?

>>29905530

Wonder Energy blocks Stardust, that much I'm certain of, and is an effect that goes against the special energy and not the pokemon itself.

No idea why this would be different when it has the same wording effect and no discernible different to the wording. You really want to blame me in this case if Scizor really can discard wonder energy? lmao

Is it acceptable for 26 year old to collect pokemon trading cards? I used to play it long time ago but now I have an urge to collect them, they just look good. Is it too juvenile or I should go for it

>>29897878
God no, you should only buy them in real life and the only reason to do that would be for the nostalgia.

>>29905713
Its only juvenile if you base your whole personality around the game.

>>29905863
Good answer, thanks a lot

>>29905713
Go for it, everyone collects things, even if they don't consider it to be "collecting" (jewelry, clothes, games, books, etc.). If you don't want to go full autist mode, you could just pick a theme for your collecting and just stick to that; like collecting only Full Art Trainers, or collecting only cards featuring your favourite Pokemon (though that's gonna get pricey if your favourite Pokemon is Pikachu or Charizard).

What Megas are most popular?

>>29905543

I hope this is b8.

If so, you got me. If not, then read the whole thread.

>>29906190
Scizor

>>29906190

Mewtwo, Gardevoir, Rayquaza and Scizor mainly.

Talking of Scizor; did 'Scizor didn't top at Orlando so it's terrible and you're dumb for saying otherwise'-anon say anything after Liverpool Regionals? Or did he just hide?

>>29906416
Honestly surprised he hasn't killed himself yet.

>>29906416

a shitty deck did well? makes sense that it was at the liverPOO regionals

>>29906505
Goalposts

>>29906787

shitposts

>>29868683
I could listen to that shit all fucking day

>>29905614
help me mi amigos

>>29908084
Precons are all poop

>>29906416
anon who went to Liverpool with meme M Scizor deck here. People simply didn't know what to do against it half the time. Wasn't fun getting rekt by volcanion though.
Thinking of switching to skyfield gardevoir for London internationals. The addtion of the new dragonite EX is going to make the deck much better. Thoughts? Or am I better just copying the top 8 Scizor list?

>>29863270
I got this too, is it worth putting in my casual deck for the memes?

>>29908966
You'll upset the autists at your locals but you must do so to honour your dubs.

>>29908699
Gardevoir/Dragonite pretty strong right now, I would definitely run it. If you don't go against a random Scizor deck, you basically win.

ultra beast cards when

>>29909174
This

>>29909174
We already saw Solgaleo and Lulana GX.

>>29909249
>Solgaleo and Lulana
They aren't ultra beasts.

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>>29909174
>tfw will probably have to wait 2+ years to get a Kartana GX card (if it ever happens)
JUST

>>29909282
They evolve from one, so kinda.

Hey m'dudes. I went to a league with a buddy yesterday and I used a Good night babies deck (got my shit destroyed by 2 Greninja break decks and a M-Audino deck), and my buddy (who is new) tied 3 games and won 2 with a cheap Regi-lock deck.
What I'm saying is, his deck looked more fun than mine, anyone got a fun regilock deck list?

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I'm looking to build a new deck in Pokemon online.
The only deck I have atm is blastoise/keldeo and I don't believe that os standard anymore.

I was hoping I could build a deck around tryantrum ex and I see that used to be a deck last year some time.
Could the deck be modified to do decent in the current meta game?

>>29909325
>it will be multiple years before i can run rocket wife GX/NIPPON ORIGAMI FOLDED ONE MILLION TIMES GX to victory in tcgo events repeatedly

just kill me desufampai

>>29910834
>tfw no Team Skull cards but when Diamond and Pearl are remade we'll get Team Galactic cards that are aesthetically nice but basically unplayable if you actually want to win a match

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>>29910950
>Team Galactic Cards
This was playable.

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>>29910756
In standard format? Definitely not. The loss of Metal Links Bronzong is too great for the card to be anywhere near fast enough to compete. In the off chance you do manage to power up at a reasonable time with say, Double-dragon and two successful elixirs, you still have the dilemma of stocking up energy to swing again.

You can definitely run it in expanded, but it will never be good enough for Standard. Even if Bronzong gets reprinted, you are playing a dragon type into a meta where Mega Gardevoir is one of the top dogs.

Why can't I send canned messages in chat on occasion?
Chat is open so idk whats wrong

>>29911649

Thanks for your help.
Would tyrantrum/bronzong deck be able to compete in expanded?

>>29911708

It isn't bad, but Genesect EX (Drive Change one in Fates Collide) seems to be the preferred attacker of choice since you don't need to use Double Dragon / Fighting energy

>>29911649
Tyrantrum Giratina is easily the most fun I've had playing standard since I started. Miss that deck

>lucky enough to get 2 packs off the wheel today
>both contained rares I already had 7x of

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>theme deck tournaments don't give packs anymore

lame

>>29910950
Don't forget we NEVER got Team Flare cards other than six Trainers.

>>29914322
At least all of them were really good (except Jamming Net).

>>29914244
Don't worry they rotate.

How the fuck do you play Weavile/eggs and get all 4 eggs or sneasels prized every other game?

>>29914588
The same way the guy that never gets to go first manages to do it; using hyperbole.

>>29914810
Nigga I just lost two matches searching level ball and getting no eggs one match and no Sneasels the other. Like what the fuck?

>>29914855
Confirmation bias. You don't complain about the tens of times none of those cards was prized right?

>>29915188
Having 4 copies of a card out of 53 be all together at the top 6 is far less likely than them being anywhere else in the deck. It happens a lot when I play tournaments with the deck as well.

2 sure, 3 maybe, all 4 is too much.

>opponent emoting me turn after turn while getting ahead
>swing the game completely in 1 turn, getting rid of all 6 of his energy on the board
>he's quiet for the rest of the game

>>29915316
Again, confirmation bias. Keep track of the number of matches you play with the deck and the number of times four eggs get prized and you'll see you're just being paranoid. You just need to accept that that is an aspect of the deck you're playing with has and that sometimes it will happen, and it can even happen twice or thrice in a row. The nice thing about it is that as soon as you search your deck you can concede the match knowing that you couldn't have done anything about it instead of wasting your time.

>>29915515
I'd argue the new chat is even worst than anything I've gotten in the old chat

>>29853787
>tfw a real life Brock's Grit got me 3 boosters and 2 M Charizard EX, one in RL and one in the OTCG

Pretty decent.

What deck can Starmie Break be used in?

>>29916793
None, only greninja break is in the meta and he runs max potion and stormy ocean.

>>29916793
I use it in a meme Mega Sceptile deck that I think is kinda fun.

Switch damaged Mega Sceptile for benched Mega Sceptile -> Use Space Beacon to pull up two energies -> Attack with new Sceptile -> Use Jagged Saber's effect to attach two energy to the damaged Mega Sceptile and fully heal it

>>29916793
>>29917006
Oops, nevermind, I somehow didn't notice that you said Starmie BREAK.

But yeah, Starmie BREAK isn't all that hot, since BREAK cards aren't really all that well used to begin with. I think the only ones I've ever actually encountered while playing on TCGO are Greninja BREAK, Zoroark BREAK, and Xerneas BREAK.

>>29917123
Fuck Greninja break.
That hot meme has way too much free damage.

>>29917402
But they just flop to Garbodor since they can't OHKO it. They also need you to give them three free turns before doing anything

>>29917402
Well if Garbodor doesn't get the job done for you there will soon be a Giratina that stops all damage from BREAKs just for sitting on your bench.

>physical plasma freeze pack
>pull a secret rare
>fucking sigilyph
kill me now

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So I'm relatively new to the TCG, but I was wondering if there's any way to test an inlife deck online somehow? I built a deck and haven't had much chance to test it irl, but TCGO only allows you to use cards gained online, rather than including cards from your own physical collection.
Is there a way to do this, or do I just have to grind to build my inlife deck on TCGO?

>>29922586
You can use TCGone.net if you find people to play against