Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread

ADVANCED GENERATION 011 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_-_Advanced_Generation_-_287_AG011_-_Graena_and_Pochiena!_The_Mystery_of_Evolution!![H264_AC3_DVDSUB][E18408A9].mkv.torrent

XY&Z07 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_007_Decisive_Battle_in_the_Ninja_Village!_Gekogashira_VS_Kirikizan!![H264_720P][87DE0083].mkv.torrent

XY&Z08 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=766744

XY&Z09 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=768788

THE POCKET MONSTERS XY&Z COMPLETE OVERVIEW SPECIAL RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=770800

NEXT: XY&Z10: Bonnie and Squishy! (Jan 14th)
>Ash and his friends somehow managed to fend of the attack by Team Flare. However, Bonnie can't help but worry about "it", which went missing during the confusion of the battle.... While the group searches near Terminus Cave, they accidentally end up angering a group of Toxicroak and Bunnelby ends up injured! Bonnie blames herself for it and does something unthinkable!?

UPCOMING SHIT:

POKÉMON NO UCHI ATSUMARU? EPISODE 14 (Jan 10th)

XY&Z11: Noibat and Floette! An Encounter in the Wind!! (Jan 21st)
>A passing Floette saves Noibat, who has been poisoned by an angry Breloom.

XY&Z12: Ash and Serena! Getting One at a Dance Party!! (Jan 28th)
>While she's practicing, Serena receives an invitation to a dance party for performers.

MOVIE 18 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=770885

MOVIE 18 SHORT RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=770886

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Long hair Serena is still the best Serena, hopefully you guys realized that too by now.

Slow thread maker. Smh

>>24931895
Yes.

>>24931900
too moe
looks crippled

>>24931829
>>24931863
For some reason, I've always thought that Greninja v. Sceptile will go down as Gohan v. Cell.

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Reminder this shot totally picked on purpose to show Serena not jealous, breaking two years of an established character trait in one episode with no buildup whatsoever.

you forgot like 1/3rd of the OP

>>24931925
Which is why you're full of shit, Staleshit

>>24931937
We know it's you

>>24931942
In Serena.

>>24931945
It wasn't him, actually
Why would you assume I was him?
Do i type like him or something?

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>>24931925
She isn't jealous in any of those shots, she seems to be quite happy with Clemont.

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>In the league
>I see the face of the Pokemon I love
>Cut! Cut! Cut!
>The thrill of battle in me boils!
>But...
>I will win tomorrow!
>Which way is victory?

>>24931876
Manon, it's 7AM! WAKE UP!

Ash Ketchum travels to the region of Urobos from Pokemon Sage. Assuming that he has Pikachu and that Pikachu is a staple of his team permanently, what team does Ash and his inevitable female companion Sofia have on their teams?

>>24931937
>Episode called Ash and Serena!
>Had Serena helping Ash to dance in one episode.
>All the build up in the serues is with Ash/Serena
>Preview literally shows Ash and Serena dancing with other people in the same shot.

>>24931895
I love the long hairstyle but the writers drop the idea like a year ago and its time to accept it and move on already.

>>24931954
>>24931951
Thanks for clarification.
I'll upload them both at the same time, don't want any of you getting jealous over the other one getting done first.

>>24931976
I love you. No homo.

>>24931966
No, it's time for them to undo the damage and give Serena long hair again.

>>24931979
I love you too.
Maybe a little homo.

>>24931957
Having a dance party and not showing the pair you've been building up for two years dancing together specifically done to troll. Out of all the scenes they chose to show of the dancing it was that one.

>>24931976
Thank you based Anonymous

>>24931984
That's insane, is an old dropped idea you can't do anything about it, the only option here is move on, even if you are here complaining forever this isn't gonna solve anything.

>>24931951
Oh yeah, long hair Serena or short hair?

I just realized that Manon's seiyuu is the same as YGO Zexal's Kotori.

Considering that Alan is voiced by Kensho Ono, wouldn't that mean that he's one of Yuya's counterparts in YGO Arc-V?

>>24932012
Short.

>>24932006
At least it should grow a little bit longer

>>24932018
no

>>24932012
Short.

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>>24932012

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>>24932018
Manon = Inko
Alan = Slaine
Ash = Inaho
Alan and Ash are fated to fight eachother.

I'm just ready for Kalos season to be over.

>>24932022
>At least it should grow a little bit longer
That's a possibility.

>>24932037
Be ready in two more years, senpai

>>24932018
He's the Pokemon Dimension counterpart

He's literally Yuya, wanting to be the best but also talking about egao and that kind of bullshit while going berserk when shit hits the fan. He even has a red/orange dragon that turns into a purple edgelord

>>24932031
One of the good things about the current Pokemon series is that you can draw parallels with a lot of other series or movies.

>>24932020
>>24932024
>>24932029
Got it.

>>24932001
In your mind, who's more dominant.
Alexa or Viola?

>>24932043
Nah. In the Late 2017.
7th generation of Pokémon is coming.

>>24932062
Also, could you have Serena and Millefeui wearing their standard outfits rather than their Tripokalon ones? Most Millefeui lewds are Tripokalon themed.

>>24932062
Not that anon, but Alexa being the older sister seems to be the more dominant of the two in my opinion.

>>24932031
Ash is Joe and Shota is Mendoza.

Will you remember Ash?

>>24932062
Alexa would be dominant, Viola would be pretty submissive as soon as Alexa starts acting like a strict onee-san.

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>>24932072
>Mendoza

>>24932043
>>24932067
Am I the only one who thinks that there could be two TF arcs (the second one being shorter), and that the second one could happen shortly after the League (or even overlapping with it)?

>>24932092
depends, has Zinnia appeared in the anime yet?

>>24932074
From preview standpoint, why pick that shot to show if they know it's going to upset people?

>>24932069
I was gonna have them fucking after escaping the dance party, so they'd be in torn up dresses, but it's your thing mane.

>>24932070
I get you m8, but everyone has different kinks. He asked so I gotta cater to him, here's hoping his taste ain't shit.
>>24932088
Well apparently it's not.

>>24932106
>>>/h/

>>24932100
No, but I'm not so sure how easy it'd be to tie her into the anime plot.
The new Rocket characters from HGSS never appeared in the anime either.

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SOON.

MANON WILL RAPE SOME ASSES.

>>24932106
Speaking of torn clothes, I'd really love for Millefeui to have torn a hole in her shorts for access, actually.

>>24931925
I always expected the Kalos series to end with Serena getting over her crush on Ash and focusing on her dream(like she should do), eventually getting with Citron off screen years in the future.

>>24932110
Essentia manon would be 10/10 desu

>>24932110
>Manon and Emma as an Essentia duo will never happen
Why?

Don't you think Ash-greninja is a gigantic asspull?

Legendary bond my ass, Ash literally have a stronger bond with his Charizard.

>>24932125
Done.

>>24932107
You want me to leave /vp/ forever?
But then those anons won't be able to get their pictures...
Well, if you insist...

>>24932110
I don't think we'll get Manon going evil.

We already have Chuuni Edgypants for that.

>>24932142
Based.

>>24932138
Deep down, Ash will never really forget how Charizard completely let him down in his big league debut. After he saved the ungrateful pile of shit's life as a Charmander.

>>24932110
Honestly this would be the best way to add Looker /Essentia into the anime.

Have Looker investigating Flare, and eventually informing Manon that Lysandre isn't a very good guy which leads to her helping Looker investigate to look for something that would get Alan to stop his involvement with Flare.

>>24932152
so, Manon is essentially (kek) Emma?

>>24932138
It would have been more sense if it was Pikachu, Charizard or Infernape. I've not seen any display of a "legendary bond" between Ash and Greninja at all.

>>24932138
>Don't you think Ash-greninja is a gigantic asspull?
Considering this whole Ash-Greninja thing has seemingly been planned since the start of the series, it's not so much an asspull. They seem to have put at least some thought into how to make it work. Not everyone is gonna like it that's for sure but it is what it is.

>>24932159
Pretty much. Right now she doesn't have a role in the anime other then to be Alans damsel in distress, this way she can be incorporated into the plot and have actual relevance.

>>24932142
Guy who requested the Ash/Serena/Millefeui threesome here, while I think these posts are reasonably sfw and on the right side of the rules, I do recognize we're running a slight risk of getting hit by the jannies here.

>>24932162
>infernape

This sounds far more reasonable than people may believe

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>>24932138
I don't think you know what an ass pull is because the staff has done all it can to provide lore behind Greninja's transformation.

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>>24932149
>>24932152

Having Manon become a slave to Team Flare is practically a typical anime trope in order to get Alain into fighting what he wanted to protect in the first place, and all that MUH STRENGTH dialogue goes to bite him in the ass. It'd be pretty over-dramatic, but for a show like Pokemon, it's rather fitting.

Plus, I just want to see flatchested Manon in a skintight outfit and mind-controlled, so that's two wins.

>>24932176
I imagine that, in that episode, Ash already knows how to activate Greninja's Super Mode at will.

>>24932176
The whole story is bullshit, "look look an incredible unseen in 700 hundred year transformation that happens because of they have such deep bonding"
It's bullshit.
Infernape suffered FAR more than Greninja.

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Ash Ketchum travels to the region of Urobos from Pokemon Sage. Assuming that he has Pikachu and that Pikachu is a staple of his team permanently, what team does Ash and his inevitable female companion Sofia have on their teams?

>>24932162
>>24932138
You guys clearly don't get it. Ash has treated Froakie/Frogadier/Greninja just like how he has to all of his starters. Ash gives a specific amount of support and care to his Pokemon unlike other trainers which is why his Pokemon, even the unevolved ones, are so powerful. The bond between a trainer and Pokemon is what makes Pokemon stronger. This type of bond is something Froakie has never had before and he hasn't taken it for granted. Both him and Ash have mutual respect for each other and because of Ash Froakie has become a stronger Pokemon which is what his goal was in the first place. Ash has opened up numerous possibilities for Greninja throughout their journey and in return Greninja has been able to help Ash continue on the path to reaching his dream. This is where this "legendary bond" thing comes from.

>>24932186
>Manon is Malvas daughter
Fuck, that's kind of hot. Alan/Manon/Malva threesome when?

>>24932174
Yeah I get you I'll be uploading the pics off site.
I'll link them here once I'm done.

>>24932207
Fantastic. Thank you for bringing some joy to the thread.

>>24932189
It had already been stated that Ash's frog had something special about it. And in these kind of series, special means special power.

>>24932189
Chimchar was attacked by Zangoose once and then Paul "saved" it. Chimchar then dealt with Paul's vigorous and retarded training methods.'

Froakie on the other hand was always by itself and got beat up by the other Froakie numerous times because it didn't want to fuck around with them. It was then known as the Pokemon that always runs away because it would always desert its trainers for being shitty.

So, outside of gym battles, what are your favorites so far?

I really like the one with a blinded Pikachu taking on Inkay and Wobbuffet.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZOciKY4HRKc

>>24932160
He looks like he's about to be a player in the upcoming plot besides just being the final Gym Leader.

That face makes it seem like he's not fucking around

>>24932198
It's poorly explained as to why Froakie's situation is unique though. You mean to tell me in 700 years not one other Pokemon has gone through the same sort of experience as Froakie where he feels he's missing something and desires a strong trained? There are billions of Pokemon and people, the idea that simply having a Pokemon seek a trainer and both trainer and mon getting a close bond = never before seen legendary power just doesn't pass the laugh test.

I mean it's still cool to see Ash have this kind of special thing for him, but the writers did a piss poor job of building it up and explaining why Froakie and Ash, but literally no other Pokemon-human duo on the planet for more than 700 years, was blessed with this power.

>>24932235
Both battles against Heidayu in XY&Z7 were hype as fuck

>>24932253
Because it's fucking destiny that this would happen.

>>24932253
>700

It's only 100

>>24932225
Okay, so what is that "special"? It's never explained, it's just "oh, Froakie wanted to be strong and wanted a worthy trainer, that means it's super special and totally unique" which is utterly shitty writing

I love Ashninja's design and I think Ash deserves something like that due to how cool of a trainer he is, but why couldn't the writers spend more time explaining why Froakie was so deserving and unique aside from this rather unremarkable and mundane "it sought a worthy trainer and wanted to be strong" explanation?

>>24932260
>>24932198
>>24932231
>>24932260
Now it sounds even more bullshit.
No baiting nor anything, but the story doesn't convince me it seems so forced.

>>24932267
Still fucking bullshit considering how time passes in the pokemon world

>>24932253
What do you mean? Mega Evolution is literally that. Shit like Sir Aaron and Lucario is literally this. The only difference is that Greninja gets a cool forme attached to all that power.

>>24932189
>>24932253
>>24932275
>>24932282
>Infernape suffered FAR more than Greninja.
And? Both Charizard and Infernape were Pokemon that were hand-me-downs to Ash from other trainers who didn't want them. Greninja was a bit different as it didn't want the trainer's that picked him as he felt they weren't good enough. This reverses that whole obtaining method as the Pokemon picked the trainer rather than the trainer picking the Pokemon.

>You mean to tell me in 700 years not one other Pokemon has gone through the same sort of experience as Froakie.
>There are billions of Pokemon
We've already been shown more than enough lore/foreshadowing/flashbacks that shows Ash-Greninja isn't an asspull. The fact that it's happened before in history means that it's something to do with the Froakie line itself. Maybe it only occurs in a Froakie once every 100 years, who knows? It's funny how legendary Pokemon that get new forms retconned into existence once the third game of a Gen comes out and everyone is fine with that. How is this any different?

>>24932275
>>24932282
Because the writers deemed it so and Ash is a trainer of undoubted destiny who has had a lot of shit surround him happen. He's the protagonist and as such, the events of the story happen both because of his presence and due to his actions.

You're complaining that the protagonist of a story is a protagonist. Just accept that it's the nature of the story and move on

>>24932260
WHY is it destiny, though? You see the issue here? It's not explained to any satisfying level of detail. It's like Starcraft 2 where the overarching plot feels contrived as hell due to relying on this "prophecy" whose origin is given a half assed, 10 second explanation in the epilogue of the game's final expansion

>>24932275
>>24932282
>>24932253
Think of it as shiny pokemon
You get one in 8k chance for it to be shiny

some people can walk past hundreds of them and never encounter that special one, despite wanting them.

some people may don't give a shit about shiny or not, and treat them same as others, and get dozens of them,

>>24932189

Infernape doesn't have the ability to transform. Instead it has an asspull super saiyan Blaze that powers up all its moves. If all of Ash's pokemon could transform, they would all have a a bond strong enough to do so.

Froakie has the hero gene that lets it transform, but also made it unwilling to accept trainers it deemed unworthy. The fact that it bonded with Ash demonstrates Ash's power level.

>>24932294
Maybe you should wait until we know more about the form before ranting about it.

>>24932294
It's destiny because the fucking writers dictated it as so via the story exposition. It's not excellent writing, it's just Pokemon. Over 10 years into the anime and with all that has happened with Ash, this is what you're going to try to get people to explain WHY things are happening?

>>24932297
Blaze took time to master and was a part of Chimchar's arc from the start. It wasn't an asspull

>>24932305
>Blaze took time to master

What the hell are you talking about? Blaze was never mastered, it's an ability that activates when Infernape is in a pinch, which, using all the times we've seen the Ash-Greninja transformation so far, is exactly how this transformation is being treated.

The whole "This Chimchar is special because it's Blaze is a lot more powerful" is an asspull because it was never explained why it is so powerfull.

>>24932291
>>24932295
I don't know man, I agree Ash is a trainer who has some sort of supernatural or mystical thing to him, but I just feel like the buildup needed to be more compelling and to me "destiny" seems like a lazy writing mechanism to use. XY92 was one of my favorite eps because it started explainingwhat would cause Froakie to be kind of those "chosen one" figure but after that there was no more detail given, then literally 10 episodes later Ashninja just kind of appears for no rhyme or reason.

>>24932231
>Chimchar was attacked by Zangoose once and then Paul "saved" it. Chimchar then dealt with Paul's vigorous and retarded training methods.'

Froakie on the other hand was always by itself and got beat up by the other Froakie numerous times because it didn't want to fuck around with them. It was then known as the Pokemon that always runs away because it would always desert its trainers for being shitty.

lol what? Chimcar was a psychological mess, every time he activated blaze he would go out of control because of his issues. He suffered so much abuse, both mental and physical because of Paul's as you say retarded training regime where he had his other Pokemon attack Chimchar and it was only with Ash's help he got over it and became as good as you did. Ash vs Paul/Infernape vs Electivire was the most hype battle in the anime's history because of all this the drama that lead up towards the battle was something else. Easily the best writing ever.

Froakie's backstory pales in comparison to this bruh, it was like listening to the life story of the stereotypical 4chan user.

>>24932305
This new Greninjash mode is also a part of Ash and Greninja's character arc. They are learning to master it as well.

They've only ever experienced twice, they still don't know how the hell the thing works.

>>24932329
bu it just showed up near the tail-end of the journey

>>24932323
>Chimcar was a psychological mess, every time he activated blaze he would go out of control because of his issues. He suffered so much abuse, both mental and physical because of Paul's as you say retarded training regime where he had his other Pokemon attack Chimchar and it was only with Ash's help he got over it and became as good as you did. Ash vs Paul/Infernape vs Electivire was the most hype battle in the anime's history because of all this the drama that lead up towards the battle was something else. Easily the best writing ever.

tl;dr

>Chimchar was attacked by Zangoose once and then Paul "saved" it. Chimchar then dealt with Paul's vigorous and retarded training methods.

>>24932322
>no rhyme or reason
It evolved and there was a moment of intense emotional gravitas. I get what you're saying anon, but you're expecting more from Pokemon. Even with Based Director, it's still Pokemon. After BW, I've learned not to complain too much about the anime.

That being said, I'm fearful that Noibat is going to evolve way too soon without much battling experience specifically because it's a baby pokemon and not some wild-caught Noibat.

>>24932305
>Blaze took time to master
Why should an ability, which every Pokemon has access to from the start take time to master?It was an asspull that they retconned into an mini-arc.

>>24932333
Because Frogadier evolved near the tail-end of the journey.

>>24932287
>Greninja was a bit different as it didn't want the trainer's that picked him as he felt they weren't good enough.This reverses that whole obtaining method as the Pokemon picked the trainer rather than the trainer picking the Pokemon.

I'm pretty sure this sounds exactly like the plot of common pokemon episode. I think tons of COTs and COTs pokemon have been there before.

>Maybe it only occurs in a Froakie once every 100 years, who knows?

And now Ash conveniently has the one who is capable of? anyway happens to the "special bond" explanation? it falls apart

I'm still saying it, Infernape deserved this special transformation more than fucking greninja.

>>24932322
This anon gets it

>>24932302
If we do get more info on it later then great, I just would have appreciated more info from the writers now rather then just kinda introducing it like this and leaving this many questions unanswered

>>24932340
I was going to ask what was up with Noibat. We've hardly seen him since his mini arc and he's already evolving? What? Atleast Goomy was front and centre during his long ass arc.

>actual discussion in the Pokemon Anime a discussion Thread

Am I dreaming?

>>24932110
Source?

>>24932349
>I want all my christmas presents all at once rather than allowing me to open one at a time, making me question what is in the rest

>>24932363
Fuck, "anime discussion," not "anime a discussion"

I fucking need coffee or red bull or something

>>24932357
I told you it was shit. It was very close to become a jokemon.

>>24932305

They haven't mastered the synch either. It just triggers on its own, and the shared injuries makes it drop.

Froakie being special was right from the start too. This is just expanding on that in a tangible way.

>>24932294

>WHY is it destiny

Because it's not such a huge fucking coincidence or stretch. Froakie was logically hanging around Lumiose after abandoning its trainers. It's a self-styled hero so it naturally follows what's going on in the city, and it followed Ash. Then the Team Rocket thing happened and it deemed him worthy to follow.

The hero gene makes it help and rescue Pokemon, and allows it to power up from a strong bond, but in turn makes it very selective about who its bonds with. All of this fits together perfectly.

>>24932357
With all the love for Greninjash, we've barely seen Talonflame or Hawlucha in XY&Z too. My hope is that Noibat doesn't evolve in the Breloom episode but gets more development. I think it having mastered flying so quickly helped its development but it needs more practice and usage before it can evolve into the juggernaut that is Noivern.

Unless Based Director possibly has an arc for Noivern in the works? Imagine if Noivern cannot control the volume of its voice and it struggles between being too loud and too soft?

>>24932349
The explanation is going to be shit or there won't be an explanation at all anon, this is the Pokemon anime, good writing is as rare as an sexually experienced 4chan user.

I wouldn't be surprised if this transformation shows up in the next game and receives an explanation there though.

>>24932305
>infernape
>mastering blaze

No, no, no. Shit man even training such ability would have been contrary to Ash's methods (bullshit methods by the way). Infer would have to receive tons of damage before been able to use it.

>>24932369
No no, I don't mean to say I want ALL answers now. I think the balance should have been shifted a bit. Maybe 10% or 20% more information before than we actually got

>>24932374
Maybe it's not a bad idea if I go back and watch all major Froakie related eps, maybe some of these answers will become clearer

What are the numbers: XY01, XY02, XY03, XY17, XY24, XY25, XY52, XY58, XY92, XY93, XY&Z06-07, XY&Z09

Am I missing any?

>>24932377
Jesus, I forgot all about Hawlucha, when was the last time we saw him again? Dude must have been thrown into the same pit as Noibat and Talonflame.

>>24932398
I think XY&Z1, when all the mons were greeting Squishy?

>>24932348
>And now Ash conveniently has the one who is capable of?

Ash didn't randomly acquire it. It's not like he picked a starter from Sycamore who happened to have super Protean.

Hero Froakie was born and went through several trainers, and abandoned all of them. In the meantime it hung around Lumiose helping random Pokemon. Then in its daily duties patrolling the city it came across Ash, who isn't unlikely to go through Lumiose as he's traveling through the regions. In Ash it found the trainer it was looking for.

It's not Ash and Froakie being thrown together and they both happen to be special, it's them meeting each other long after starting their individual journeys, and naturally coming together because they fit so well.

>>24932398
>pit
>not cage
You had an opportunity and you missed it.

>>24932398
Someone post one of the screenshots of Hawlucha from that movie short

He's prolly still recovering from all the trauma of that experience

>>24932401
You may as well not even count that, since it had no effect on the episode at all

>TATEKE! TATEKE! TATEKE!

>CUT! CUT! CUT!

>>24932401
I think he meant one in which he has a relevant role.

>>24932398
How would an Ash-Hawlucha look like?

>>24932377
Well we got Talonflame in the Olympia episode. We haven't seen Hawlucha do something since the Noibat flying episodes.

>>24932364
I might be wrong, but here's the artist's twitter:
https://twitter.com/Kuro_181?lang=en-gb

>>24932398
At least Noibat is getting out of that pit.

>>24932427
Maybe he's just waiting to be tagged back in, has anyone told Noibat or Greninja to tag Hawlucha back in to the game?


WAIT


HAS ASH SHOWN HIS POKEMON THAT GRENINJA EVOLVED YET OR WAS THAT SKIPPED OVER?

>>24932101
Becuase you fucking idiots always, always take the bait.

>>24932439
I think only Pikachu and Noibat so far know about Greninja.

>>24932452
Did Noibat react at all?

>>24932391
XY01, XY02, XY03, XY13, XY17, XY24, XY25, XY38, XY39, XY52, XY58, XY75, XY91, XY92, XYZ06, XYZ07, XYZ09

>>24932458
XY91 was a Tripokalon
You must mean XY92 and XY93

>>24932474
Used the Bulbapedo numbering?

>>24932403

This isn't the first time either. Ash doesn't just win the lottery getting super powerful Pokemon, it's the Pokemon rejecting other trainers who couldn't handle them, then deeming Ash worthy. Or, it's Ash chasing not just any Pokemon, but Pokemon whom he sees something special in. There's also Charizard who outleveled Ash for a while, but then Ash caught up to his level and earned his trust.

Froakie may not have been explicitly aware of his form, but he had heroism in his genes and intuitively picked a trainer who could handle his power.

>>24932478
They STILL haven't fixed that?

Pokemon Village arc WHEN

>>24932482
>implying they ever will
m8 these people think XY&Z is an arc instead of a series, they could be told to their faces by the director and writers that their numbering is wrong, and they'd still need to wait for some other confirmation and then debate among themselves whether the writers really meant what they said before they would agree to fix the numbers

>>24932512
They finally realized they were wrong on the talk page for that episode.

>>24932516
Yeah and yet they still haven't changed anything apparently due to "we have to discuss things and then fix all the bajillion other pages that link to it"

>>24932520
If only they'd listened all those weeks/months ago when it aired

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>>24932074
>Being this wrong

This is the real innocent maiden that needs smile protection at any cost

>>24932604
>Serena and Clemont dancing is a fact
>Ash and Serena dancing is down to maybe/hopefully/if

>>24932615
I just hope I can get some nice jealous Serena pics.

You didn't get banned, did you, Drawcunt?

>>24932644
Why would he have been, all his posts are still here

>>24932662
Not his first one in the thread where he asked for details.

>>24932632
You have one right here >>24931925

>>24932644
>>24932672
Test

>>24932672
General rule, if any of their posts are still left up, it means that they weren't banned

>>24932644
>>24932662
So apparently I'm not banned.
But just in case I do get banned check this page every now and again.
http :// hobo - sensei . deviantart . com /

>inb4 >DeviantArt costanza.jpg

>>24932074
>Misty not deserving to have her smile destroyed

>>24932072
The Mendoza of XYZ is going to be the final league opponent, who will probably be stronger than both Alan and Shota. In fact, they could do some nice build up and have him completely wreck them in battle.

>>24932883
Speaking of Misty, some guy on Bulbagarden just made a thread asking about Misty references in DP:

http://forums.bulbagarden.net/index.php?threads/misty-references-in-diamond-pearl-series.213837/

>Noibat episode
Fucking finally. Poor little bastard never gets to do anything.

>>24932192
Pikachu, Aguanaut, Flairees, Warquila, Loneleaf, Dreamdery, Diamat

>>24932924
He will get to kick Breloom's ass, which will really piss off the Tierno shitposter. His tears will be delicious

>>24932138
I don't think it's an asspull. So far, I think it's an excuse to have Ash lose in the league (have him collapse due to pain) while making it seem like he's the most powerful trainer in Kalos.

What I'm worried about is Greninja being a permanent substitute for Ash having a mega capable Pokemon. That would be bullshit. I'd love to see Sceptile and Charizard go mega, and how overpowered they would be. Most importantly I'd love to see Infernape use activate Blaze before going mega in Gen VII, assuming Ash is still the protag and Sinnoh gets a remake. The nigga would be like a Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan 4.

>>24932954
Atleast I hope they're all used for the league. I'm still not sure why they brought Charizard back in BW. He appeared in one movie and then what, a couple of episodes? He didn't even fight Reshiram like it said he would. Lies!

>>24932982
I like to think that they'd just given up on BW after he came back

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>>24932954
If Ash loses the Kalos League, it'll be because he won't be able to withstand the pain he receives.

That being said, Ash is probably going to be on the receiving end of that Blast Burn/Thunder Punch combo without any physical training for himself. What ever he faces during the League would have to be stronger then Alans MegaZard for him to pass out. And Alans MegaZard is possibly Elite 4 tier strength wise.

It's going to be an interesting League this time around that's for sure.

>>24932996
I'm fucking terrified they're going to do the "He faints and gets disqualified" thing because it seems so likely and seems to be the only way to make him lose

>>24932982
I'm still hoping that Ash sixth mon, if it isn't Goodra, is Charizard.

>>24933015
Or even better

He dies

>>24932954
I think Ash's Sceptile won't come back simply because of Shota's. I don't think the writers want two Sceptile around.

>>24933033
I don't think he would die.

But it would be extremely painful.

>>24933033
>Serena performs cpr to revive him

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>>24933015
Honestly that is probably going to be how it goes. Oh shit, let's say Ash only uses his Kalos mons for the League. That would be around 6 battles of potentially going Syncro in a short span of time. Lets say, VS M-Sceptile, token Mega trainer during the League,and Tierno maybe? Ashs is going to be fucking exhausted by the time his final battle appears.

The more I think about it the more this seems even more plausible. Shit.

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>>24933033
No way

>>24932996
At this point, I don't even think the Megazard battle will happen, which is kinda fucking stupid since that's what everyone was expecting from Ash vs Alan. At best, Alan and Shota would let Ash borrow their Mega Stones if the final league boss is some evil champion level trainer with six legendaries who has ended Alan's career and stomped Shota in the previous round. Tobias 2.0 basically, but the chances for that are slim.

If Ash gets key and mega stones, it'll probably be by the end of the series. He'd kinda slaughter Wulfric with a Mega Charizard Y/X/"hatever new shit Z-game brings to the table" for one. And they want to give Ash-Greninja as much spotlight before Gen VII is announced. Once Gen VII is announced by the end of XYZ, Ash is going to be using Megas because Greninja won't be marketed as much by then.

>>24932954
>What I'm worried about is Greninja being a permanent substitute for Ash having a mega capable Pokemon.
Yeah that worries me as well.
Here's hoping they'll retcon it to something like, Ash's bond is so fucking great that he doesn't need a mega stone to utilize mega-evolution for Greninja.
The only downside to this however is the whole, you faint the second Greninjash does thing.

This way fans will be able to receive Greninjash in the main series, since a lot do.
Your Pokémon receives 5 hearts in Pokemon-amie, it can now mega evolve, but if it faints in battle before you're done? (2 Pokémon left)
You quite literally black out.

>>24933027
>>24933041
Doesn't Ash only catch Pokémon from the region he's in?
And if he does catch something from a different region "Gligar" it evolves into something introduce in that region. "Gliscor".
Excluding Pikachu of course.

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>>24933045
>>24933048
>>24933057

>>24933076
He's known to bring out one or two of his Oak's mons from time to time (more than two against Tobias).

Also, if you're not contributing with your drawings, take out the trip. Just saying.

So we know that as long as Ash-Greninja is shrouded in water it's not using its full power, because the water is supposed to turn into 2 water katanas and a giant water shuriken
how do you think they'll find out about these 2 attacks?

>>24933087
I know he occasionally brings over Pokémon from Oak but those Pokémon are never permanently on the team.
If he does only catch and use Pokémon from the region he's in, that pretty much confirms Greninjash is substitute for being a Megamon, since as we all know their are no Pokémon from Kalos that can Mega-evolve. Yet.

Unless he catches Diancie of course.
Or the writers break "muh patterns"

>Also, if you're not contributing with your drawings, take out the trip.
Just noticed, thanks.

>>24933123
The only time an old Pokemon did come back to stay on his team was Phanpy for Battle Frontier. That was a great idea because Phanpy got too little screentime in Johto and got to come back and evolve.

Its a shame no other pokemon got the Phanpy treatment again.

>>24933126
What is Charizard?

>>24933153
I didn't watch BW.

>>24933156
Good

>>24933156
Watch the last episode. And perhaps the episode where Charizard returns.

And if you want to rage and laugh at the same time, the battle vs Elesa.

This smell... It must be subs approaching.

Not Adamant by the way, it's just that it's almost the usual upload time.

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>>24933178
Maybe he finished AG12.

>>24933126
What about Aipom? Even though it was eventually traded to Dawn.

>>24933178
Are you sure it isn't manflesh?

>>24933076
You're giving GF too much credit. I can't imagine them coding something like "fainting in the middle of a Pokemon battle" during multiplayer. What if some dumbass decides to use Ash-Greninja at the start and it faints? Will it automatically count as a loss? If that's the case, then Ash-Greninja would have to be OP to warrant the use. Either way, implementing something like that would piss people off.

>>24933041
I guess, but Mega Sceptile looks a lot more powerful than Ash-Greninja. For one Mega Sceptile is more than just a simple design change. Sceptile actually grows taller and heavier. In comparison to normal Sceptile, Mega Sceptile is a lot more imposing. His tail becomes a tree missle! The sudden growth in stature makes sense since Sceptile is becoming a dragon. He actually gives off that end game feel.

Ash-Greninja is just a Greninja that looks like Ash. He's not exactly bigger or more threatening. He looks cool, but he doesn't make me think "Wow, so this is the peak of Ash's growth." Ash-Greninja is supposed to represent Ash's (current) peak, and yet it just looks like a recolored Greninja. Ash-Greninja is just anti-climatic.

>>24932323

i must agree about that whole Infernape vs Electivire.
Man. that fucking blaze was glorious.

>Infernape is literally on the verge of fainting
>switching to his FOV, all blurry as fuck
>Electivire taunting him to get up
>Paul call him pathetic and worthless
>literally goes super saiyan
Fuck, it was great.

>>24933188
I think it's sole purpose was to introduce Ambipom.

>>24933194
>You're giving GF too much credit.
Yeah probably, but still it's a nice thought.
Competent GF can you imagine?

>>24933222
How BTFO do you think this person feels after doing all that art, then seeing the new year preview?

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>>24933222
Foreshadowing their future kid.

>>24933015
>>24933050
>>24933033
>>24932996

Fuck. I don't want to admit it but this is how Ash is going to lose this team.
Man, I'm going to be so fucking mad. I don't know if it's worse than Darkrai or lolucario, i like most of the time bullshit like it

>Ash and greninja both faint standing up
It would be fucking awesome and will make me mad at the same time.


>Probably no megazard Y vs X
wasted as fuck.

Infernape>sceptile>charizard>>>>>>>>greninja

>>24933247
Yes, what a cute happy family

>>24933249
Infernape>>Greninja>>Charizard>=Sceptile.

>>24933248
Nothing will be worse then that Lucario fight. Nothing.

>>24933249
Charizard>Sceptile>Greninja>Infernape

>>24933015
>Satoshi in the league finals
>he has 2 pokemon left
>opponent has 1 left
>Satoshi Gekkouga on the field
>/vp/ tastes the incoming victory
>opponent gets a critical hit with an electric attack
>Satoshi Gekkouga blacks out for bit
>Satoshi can't get up
>starts hearing his friends screaming his name
>he starts getting up
>faintly orders cut
>Satoshi Gekkouga charges in
>opponent is static at the sight
>before the blade can connect it fades and both Satoshi and Gekkouga faint
>YFW

>>24933153
charizard never came back after the frontier battle when he lose the fuck are you talking about

>>24933285
This is cute as fuck. I'd love to see them dance in these outfits.

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>>24933299

So, about those Malamar...

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>>24933299

>>24933311
They're controlling TF

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>>24933299
It's been like 12 fucking years and I'm still mad. I will not see this bullshit repeated

Ash will die in the league.

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>>24933299
>mfw it's almost the same plot that Joe faggot it's memeing
>mfw it turns out to be real

>>24933355
>Implying you don't want my meme to come true

>>24933337
Goddammit, I knew that "Ash fainting at the tipping point of the battle" reminded me of something.

>>24933337
This.

But the difference is that Ash isn't a Jobber until league so there's still a chance.

New broadcast data when?

>>24933434
More detailed summaries when?

>>24933434
according with adamant, until February i think

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>post yfw Ash beats Alain "Mega-Evolution isn't an automatic win button Alany-boy!"
>post yfw Alain actually changes his goal to become the strongest trainer, rather than just the strongest mega evolution trainer. "I'll see you at the Pokémon league, Ash."
>post yfw we get a montage of Alain wrecking 8 gyms and catching more Pokémon for the last Mega-evo special.

>>24933434
In two weeks.

How do we kill Alain? He's too powerful, even for Ash.

Always believe in memecular magic

>>24933482
Are you talking about Edo Tensei Alan?

>>24933472
>Ro16
Ash vs. Tierno
>Quarter-Finals
Ash vs. Shota
>Semi-Finals
Ash vs. Alan/another ME Trainer

>>24933505
>Alan
Stop this meme.

And Tobias for finals.

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>>24933513
With M-FUG

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>>24933525
Forgot pic.

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>>24933536
Im still glad to see Swanna gal again

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>>24933531
kek i wonder why they always made that pose

>>24933536
>People still think they are rotating dancers.
>People not seeing that Serena us not jealous which is OoC

>>24933555
Sushi thinks its a rotating ballroom dance. Makes sense too, the one in the Lucario movie did the same thing.

>>24933564
You are correct on both accounts, but please don't humour him

Who is Ash's best fully evolved starter in your opinion?

I expect a training arc for Ash with Wulfric in the future.I'm hoping that Ash gets a sixth Pokemon(hopefully Aegislash) or Goodra returns.

>>24933564
I really don't remember much about that one, except that May was dancing with a guy wearing glasses and that the TRio were there.

Also, Brock wanted to fuck some brown qt.

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>>24933536
I starting to feel sad for geekchicshippers because i think they are taking things out of context too soon.

>>24933564
>thinks
>same as hoping

Serena and Clemont get a dance together canon, but all Amour people can do is hope at this point.

Why else do you think most outside this thread are pissed?

Do you want Goodra to return?

>>24933576
Charizard>Sceptile=Infernape. Greninja needs more feats.

>>24933578
The Lucario movie in general is great and one of the animes best movies. You should rewatch it if you get the chance.

He's here
Remember that replying is just as bad

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>>24933578
Oh yeah forgot about her

>>24933595
If the writers don't plan to have Ash catch a new pokemon,Goodra should return.

>>24933609
That's sounds ok to me, Goodra is awesome

>>24933595
>it's a Flare episode
>somehow Greninja, Braixen, Luxray and Talonflame have been knocked out
>Flares are surrounding Ash and his friends
>suddenly Dragon Pulse out of nowhere
>Goodra appears
>It ain't me starts playing

>>24933564
There was only one change and it was completely accident.

>>24933622
Some anon posted a link a couple threads ago that clearly stated that partner switching is a thing in ballroom dancing

>>24933629
But anon, this a japanese ballroom dancing.

>>24933629
Probably they switch partner over a second in a casual way and people are just overreacting about that single scene.

>>24933629
>because it happens in an article means it must happen in the anime

The only chance you have is that Millefeui is paired with James in the battle.

They went out of their way to show Serena and Ash dancing with different people for the preview.

>>24933636
>ballroom dancing
>Japanese
>thinking ballroom dancing has any international variant thereof
Are you retarded?

>>24933576
Torterra.

>>24933655
>showing Ash/Serena dancing with anyone but each other.

That's not how you hype people.

>>24933655
>replying
Are YOU retarded?

>>24933599

>>24933683
But that wasn't stalebaiter now, was it? Not when his reply came just 13 seconds later. Either way, I'll shut up.

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I still don't get why people keeps whining about the dance episode.
It was pretty much confirmed on the preview it would be a dance with the partner-switching thing, otherwise Serena's expression on the preview would be a bit less confident considering Ash is with Millefeui

>>24933655
Is there a need to ask? The guy couldn't even navigate a wikipedia page or google properly. In the first place, you shouldn't even need to search for something that should be commonly known. It shouldn't be a surprise that the dude is a legitimate academic and social reject, especially when it's a retard that spends all day shitposting.

>>24933697
Literally every single post concerning this topic is made by either stale or some retard responding to him. No one is actually discussing it. Just ignore and don't reply.

>>24933698
The whole point is that both arguments hold little to no water since we have literally a frame to base this all on.

>>24933666
Yes because some fans will think in a negative way, lost hope etc but then in the episode they gonna get a surprise with a cute lovey dovey fanservice Amour scene, then the hype will be triplicated x 1000.

>>24933683
>>24933697
>>24933705

>that damage control
>all this concern because Millefeui it's dancing with Ash and not Serena.

>>24933713
The whole episode it's bait.

Is "don't reply" such a fucking complicated idea for you retards?

>>24933724
It's not us. It's him.
I hope

>>24933731
Multiple replies a minute. There's people responding.

The entire anime is bait, they baited us with Korrina joining the group and Goodra staying on ash's team.

>>24933576
Sceptile>Greninja>Charizard>Infernape

This is based purely on my love for the Pokemon itself, so no disrespect for Infernape coming last. Sceptile has taken on a fair few Legendaries as has Charizard.

>>24933595
>>24933609
>>24933615
>>24933618
>Wanting Goodra to come back
It had it's time to shine and the arc it had was short and severed a purpose that wasn't for it to be Ash's Pokemon permanently. It returning would render it's goal to become stronger so it could protect it's homeland useless.

>>24933698
If you read this thread, you will realize that people had been talking about everything but the dance episode for the last 4-5 hours until the shitposter arrived and started replying to himself.

>>24933710
Exactly, it's very possible that Serena gets over Ash in this episode.

>>24933741
I don't know about you, but I'm just looking for an excuse to get /padt/ to sing CCR's "Fortunate Son".

Is Serena really French? Is she really the son of the famous Rhyhorn Racer, Grace?

>>24933707
Serena potentially finding love with Clemont in one episodes and essentially breaking everything we know about her character isn't something with being discussed?

>>24933745
How would you react if I told you it was me all along and the post that began all >>24932138 was posted by my hand

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzlG28B-R8Y

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>>24933747
I still disappointed about no signs of concern on serena's face.

Just hope the full episode features some

Jessica returning when?

>>24933777
It would be extremely confusing.

Are your trying to say you started the on-topic discussion earlier?

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>>24933758
>son
>Serena turns out to be a trap this whole time
G-Good thing?

>>24933792
Serena x Ash being confirmed is huge money, they can't just give that away in a throwaway dancing episode. It needs to happen in a significant episode.

Mark my words, amour will happen by the end of the Kalos series.

>>24933806
yes

>>24933792
It literally breaks everything we know about her character. She's NEVER shown any interst in Clemont and that won't change in either if the upcoming episodes.

If Serena knew Millefeui took Ash at any point, like in the beginning, Serena would still be upset. If Serena danced with Ash first, then they likely would not battling together and she'd still be upset at Millefeui being with Ash. In any scenario Serena should still be angry because of what we saw in XY80.

>>24933837
*in either upcoming episodes prior to the dance*

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>>24933794
XY has lots of great CoTDs, but most of them makes just one appearance, and that makes me sad.

Would be nice to see some of them on 2 or 3 episodes at least.

>>24933272
Which Lucario fight?

>>24933914
Cameron

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>yfw Ash used only KalosMons likely BW, in Kalos League and Loss in 16º

>>24933810
No, but you don't specifically show a scene from an episode called "Ash and Serena!" that has Serena dancing happily with a guy she's never shown interest in and having Ash dance with Millefeui.

Subs out, faggots.

Anyone want fresh, hot subs?
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info//%5BPM%5DPocket_Monsters_XY%26Z_008_Dance%2C_Eievui%21_Its_Tripokalon_Debut%21%21%5BH264_720P%5D%5BFF57884D%5D.mkv.torrent

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>>24933944
Delicious

>>24933576
Charizard is obviously Ash's strongest Pokemon. It's trained with the strongest Charizard in the world and

>>24933794
Only when she decides to use her grooming talents in the Tripokalons.

>>24933895
This chick will never come back.

>>24933710
No one here has accepted the potential that the episode may be the end of the Ash/Serena subplot.

Millefeui dances with Ash, Serena is upset at first but then as she's dancing with Clemont she realizes she's happy with him. That's every bit as possible as the switching partners idea.

They better play this shit in the episode on the 28th
https://youtube.com/watch?v=r838pJCS2o0

>>24933919
>Top 16
Don't even joke. Meme magic is real, I don't want this to be. I'd hero if he lost that early.

>>24934092
>implying /padt/ can use mememagic

>>24934135
>Implying my Ashita no Joefagging won't prevail when Tiernofagging can

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>>24934032
I know ;_;

>anime isn't allowed to show Earthquake anymore
>has no problem showing Land's Wrath which is an earthquake on steroids
I don't get it.

Will you remember Satoshi when he is gone?

>>24933989
Well greninja propably is the most strong greninja in the world too

Alan´s charizard can be more powerful than Ash´s

>>24934288
Japaneses are weird

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>>24934317
yes

>>24934317
Sadly only we will know him as a Hero

>>24934327
>>24934329
Even when he's gone to the afterlife?

>>24934318
>Alan´s charizard can be more powerful than Ash´s
How?

>>24934371
Its a mega :^)

>>24934327
This may all be for naught in the next few weeks.

>>24934385
And?

>>24934395
Ash Greninja plushes in pokemoncenter.com when?

>>24934388
Can hurt 50% Zygarde with flamethrower

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>Squishy drawn as a cel

You wot

Moving here from /a/ because /a/ is pure cancer.

Too bad there are no more Aerial Battles. I wish this thing would have been used more than only once, but I guess it's pretty much the same as in the games.
Roleplaying battles when? Battles in water with Water Pokemon only for example. (though I believe we pretty much got this a while back)

Hey all you Max haters, get a load of this

http://www.4gamer.net/games/999/G999905/20151225009/index_3.html

>石原氏:
>(…) ただ,ご家族の話はよく聞きましたね。アニメ「ポケットモンスター アドバンスジェネレーション」から,ハルカの弟(マサト)が出てくるのですが,あれは岩田さんの息子さんがモデルですし。マサト君がかけている黒縁メガネ は,当時の岩田さんがかけていたものです。ああいうキャラは岩田さんとの会話から生まれたものですが……って,やっぱり仕事の話だな,これも(苦笑)。

>>24934395
Gotta love the tissue box. So classy. Nice screen though.

>>24934436
>implying we are all fluent in moonrunes

>>24934433
I'm sure they'll bring up aerial battles at least once more considering Ash has three flying types.

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>>24934431

>>24934445
Apparently, Iwata’s son became the model for the character of Max, May’s younger brother in Pokemon AG. Ishihara also mentions that by that time, Iwata used to wear those same kind of black glasses and then he finally remembers that the character was created out of a conversation with Iwata. Can you spot the similarities?

>>24934388
>Alan's Charizard beat a Pokemon belonging to one of the Elite 4.
>None of Ash's Pokemon defeated a single one of the Elite Four's Pokemon.

The closest that Ash ever got was Charizard vs Noland's Articuno (where Charizard had a massive type advantage) and Pikachu vs Brandon's Regice. Even Sceptile's feat of beating Darkrai was after like 3 other Pokemon had damaged Darkrai prior. So really, Pikachu vs Regice was the closest Ash got to the achievement of beating an Elite Four's Pokemon since Brandon was the strongest Frontier Brain and Pikachu never had a type advantage against Regice.

Irregardless of whether Malva was going all out or not, the fact that Houndoom even fainted at all is worth noting. Even if she held back (which I doubt considering Alan did well against Siebold and Steven), that would have no impact on Houndoom's endurance of attacks.

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>>24934421
Oh god. I want all of them

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>>24934452
>Even Sceptile's feat of beating Darkrai was after like 3 other Pokemon had damaged Darkrai prior
Stop this shit. Darkrai recovered with Dream Eater.

>>24934433
/vp/ is also cancer m8, this thread in particular is getting shitposted and baited several hours a day with nearly zero mods

>>24934450
So basically, Max is adopted and his real dad is Iwata?

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>>24934412
Buy one from Sunyshore.

>>24934463
>>24934453
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>>24934414
What the fuck are you doing?

>>24934452
Charizard had a type advantage and still struggled like a bitch.

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By February 12 2016 it will be a year since the writers of Pokémon XY(&Z) since Serena changed her outfit and cut her hair. I honestly like the second design because of the ribbon Ash gave her.

BTW, the ribbon is located in the chest area.

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>>24934482

>>24934452
>Even if she held back

She did. She had her Houndoom remove its massive advantage.

>>24934421
I'm thinking about going back to a Pokemon Center during spring holiday. Does anybody know if the merch stock will change any time soon? That log pillow with Pokemon sewn on it looked comfy as fuck.

>>24932074
But Misty started fucking Tracey as soon as Ash left, though.

Who the fuck is this shitter who is flooding the thread with random microscopic screenshots?

>>24934487
Seriously, stop this shit.

>>24934497
and serena started fucking clemont before ash even left kalos lol.