Touhou Puppet Dance Performance

>>24922072

https://mega.nz/#!rJYS0bzZ!RLdd9fUoBFR_0QEeoT6ErgBbkAEOdf7ch2QeKYe0skY

Better link to the expansion because I'm retarded.

RaikoE confirmed probably usable yay

>>24922086

I'm going to complain every day until my favorite gets buffs.

>>24922100
What's wrong with your favorite?

>>24922110

None of her forms are really good and her Extra one isn't making me feel optimistic so far.

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Happy New Year!

Still an hour to go in Oklahoma, autisticly farming all the girls from their areas. Not even to SDM yet and I can already annihilate Remi's Remi with ease.

Now that it's 2016, can we actually vow to give a shit about competitive balance and ban things if they end up too degenerate?

>>24922168
No.

>>24922168
Just because your waifus can't beat mine doesn't mean you can just shit all over mine.

>>24922122
What's your favorite?

>>24922245
Sounds like Thunder Drums, Raiko is it?

>>24922245

Kanako. Power form has too many weaknesses and has to kill herself to do damage. Defense is okay but has two mediocre abilities. Extra has poor stat distribution but I'm hoping that there's something untranslated in there that'll help even things out.

>>24922262
Guess I was wrong, I hope there is something in there for you. No ones favorite deserves to be shitty.

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Im almost positive its impossible for the AI to have a miss, I havent seen it all playthrough

>>24922290
I've had non 100 acc attacks miss.

That aside, I'd have to agree with you. Even with non 100's it seems like the system still gives them a higher chance than it would for us.

>>24922262
Yeah, I thought RaikoE wasn't going to be very good either but then her other ability was "your chaos weakness is actuall an immunity that heals you".

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>>24922290
>>24922302
also known as 'the fire emblem effect'

>>24922330
Shit, must have missed that, where would that put her in a team comp then?

>>24922330

I need something better than that. She's basically Sap Sipper Goo dra that traded in any ability to use special attacks for slightly better physical bulk and speed. And god damn that annoying guy that posts those threads, made the thing think my post is spam.

>>24922347
So, within the realm of reason mind you, how would you have better handled it?

>>24922362

I can't really say until that second ability gets translated. I actually would have liked that Metallurgy ability on her Power version. She already has a bunch of weaknesses and that 4x metal weakness just makes things even worse. Maybe trade in a bit of HP for Fo. Atk on her Power version too. She's supposed to be the power version but she only has 10 more Atk than her Defense form, and the HP boost is kinda nullified by most of her best attacking moves being recoil moves.

So does Miracle Mallet compensate for the difference in immediate power between Defense and Power Sukuna?

Indomitable in itself seems pretty tasty though.

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>>24922339
Well she has 5 resistances (Water, Light, Dark, Nether, Fighting), and 2 immunities (Void, Chaos), with 3 weaknesses (Wind, Electric, Illusion). That's pretty great by wall standards in even Pokemon.

100/100/100 is good bulk and 100 speed is nice; 60/60 offenses is just bad though even if STAB Revolving Illusion makes up for that a good amount.

Also fun fact: Danmaku Orchestra used to be BP 120 and 100% accuracy with no drawbacks. And Sound used to only be resisted by wind.

Balance in the earlier versions was wonky as hell to say the least.

>>24922381
Seems I won't be bringing the bass with as much intensity as I was hopping. This saddens the Youmufag.

i really wish the wiki showed everyone who learns the move when you look it up

I really wish Toyohime would hurry the fuck up and show up, seen the other hime 4 times now but not this bitch.

>>24922378

since it doubles her stats after EV and emblem boosts, it is equivalent to having 150+ base focus attack and defense, while power form only has 120 focus attack and 100 defense.

in addition defense sukuna shrinks making her cute as hell

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Post your teams, I need inspiration.

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>>24922389
Also while checking I just learned RaikoP and RaikoA got their movesets tinkered with, because Hemo.

RaikoP lost Brave Song (i.e. +2 Special Attack); kind of sucks but base 65 speed meant she couldn't really use it anyways. She does gets Skanda instead to shore up said base 65 speed, which is probably more relevant overall. Probably an overall buff, although she's still completely walled by light types and Skanda conflicts to some degree with Lightning Speed.

RaikoA meanwhile lost Descrendo, which REALLY really sucks, but gets made much more like RotomA in the actual Pokemon games to compensate: She now learns Will'o'Wisp, she gets Pain Split, and she gets the Electric type version of Giga Drain if Pain Split is too unreliable for you. Also she can set Genbu up now if you care about that sort of thing.

And RaikoE still gets Lightning Speed for pivot stuff despite losing the electric type and having only base 60 SpATK. So 100/100/100 defenses, base 100 speed, can make fast things lose their speed completely by putting Shocked on them, can hit physical attackers hard with STAB Revolving Illusion, 5 resistances, 2 immunities, only 3 weaknesses...

Raiko is being good this expansion.

>>24922564
HecatiaD
HecatiaP
HecatiaE
RikaE
ShinkiE

Put your waifu on the last slot. Just run all the max BST newmons.

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>>24922564
>not doing a wing theme meme team

pick cute wings and win

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>>24922564
Disclaimer: I am not to be held responsible for any losses/poor puppet play caused by any inspiration given by my team.

>>24922591
Why RikaE? I thought that was just a standard wall

>>24922601
She's an Aegislash with an ability to swap power and defenses.

>>24922617
She is? Fucking nice, she's my favorite so time to dominate with waifu

What's more important: Good or waifu

>>24922558
Helpful anon is helpful.

current team is
YoumuS
SukunaD
Shou
Byakuren
DaiyousaiD
Chen

I'll be keeping Shou for her bitchin alternate and Youmu because Youmufag. Other than that I'm only just now at the Misty Lake so no clue how my team will look by the end.

>>24922636
waifu

>>24922636
Waifu.

>>24922636
My Waifu team may not be able to defeat a tactically thought out one but that isn't going to stop me from taking them online and try to prove that my waifu will fuck up yours.

>>24922636
Surround waifu with good.
Alternatively, just good.

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>>24922580
Actually going to look around and see what got changed with the big threats to make them less good.

I already found a big bombshell change and I've only just started:

EllyP no longer learns Mad Rush Stance.

>>24922741
Wait scratch that apparently she does still learn it; move list I was reading was incorrect.

>>24922741
Never took Pokemon serious so a lot of the stuff with stat spreads and setups goes over my head.

Whatever changes they've made will just be jibberish to me until I "git gud".

Any news on TenshiE or LettyE?

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>>24922753
Well, that's interesting. REALLY interesting.

My thought was that EllyP didn't get Mad Rush Stance anymore because her updated move list made it look like she didn't get it anymore; having Brandish take up the level 70 moveslot instead.

Turns out EllyP gets BOTH Brandish and Mad Rush Stance at 70.

And it's not isolated; turns out there are several puppets who now get 2 moves at level 70.

For an example, RaikoA does still have Decresendo! Ahahahahahaahaha

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>stuck at the bambo forest
Somebody help

>>24922794
Calm down there, the wars haven't even truly begun and you're acting like a German who found the ark of the covenant.

>>24922798
count the little stalk things then perceive a clock in your head, match it up and go.

>>24922798
Enter the konami code.

>>24922798
Nevermind, just got there by chance.

>>24922823
That magnitude of chance is impressive, good luck with Phoenix.

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>>24922802
Well RaikoE's second level 70 move is Encourage (aka Encore), so no I will continue to laugh manically while smiling.

Goddamnit Hemo made ALL of Raiko's stances great in the expansion. How am I supposed to pick between then?

>>24922839
Quarters have always been my friend, AotCbro

>>24922810
Never noticed that.

>>24922838
Thanks, funny thing is this is my second playthrough.
The first was when the full first game came out and I choosed Mokou as a starter(now I'm using Elis).

>>24922874
I restarted from Remilia, I've farmed out one of each puppet at each area so far. Stopped for the night after reaching Misty Lake and I'm already in the 40's with my starter.

I'm looking forward to my rematch with my waifu, a cunt of a waifu but my waifu nonetheless.

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>>24922895
Well, Remelia was one of hardest bosses since her puppets levels were insane if didn't grind enough.
I'm using puppets I didn't get to use in my previous playthrough and here is my team so far.

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>>24922921
I missed up.

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>>24922924
Is your Shou using her alternate?.

>>24922936
You bet, both her alternates are pretty good but I went with the flames one.

>WakasagiE
>base 145 special attack
>120/70/70 defenses
>base 35 speed + can use Genbu
>only weakness is poison (4x but still)
Literally why

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>>24922962
Because Hemo loves Waggyswaggy.

>>24922513
Use cheat engine to speed the game up. Please value your sanity anon.

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>>24922962
shitty fish go home

>>24923027
Waggyswaggy will kill you one day if you aren't careful.

Why these threads here instead of in /jp/ or /vg/?
This version is much less like Pokemon than the GBA hacks.

>>24923027
I hope Miko wasn't nerfed.

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>>24923031
because go fuck yourself faggot, most of this board is some sort of roleplay or talk about a garbage tier anime

>>24923036
I was just curious anon, I don't mind and I love me some 2hu.

Calm down darling~

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>>24923060
Im sorry, Im tired and hungover

Playing the expansion

What do I do after beating Cirno?

>>24923137
look for the other members of the troupe you saw earlier by combing the outskirts of the village.

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this game is going to be the death of me

>SarielE-
>("See Through")
>("Enemy's ability doesn't affect damage done.")

Where can I get the installation files for the original game?

Is it possible to get multiple heart-marked puppets by transferring from different saves?

>>24921450
>A better name for it would be "Distortion"
Isn't there also a move named Distortion Bomb (in katakana) that's Chaos/Distortion type? I think I saw that in one of the datasheets for the Extra types someone uploaded earlier.

>>24923481
The translators have more or less decided not on Chaos or Distortion type; Chaos is not accurate to what the context of the type, and nobody actually on the team thought Distortion was good. There is two options we're looking at, and we're more than agreed on one. I'm not at liberty to disclose them until we actually confirm which we're using, but you can rule out Chaos and Distortion being the final options.

Feel free to refer to the types as such until we reveal the final name though!

Are there touhous who only learn certain moves in their base forms and not in their evolved forms?

>>24923234
That's mold breaker?

>>24923545
Just name it the lewd type.

>>24923234
Pretty sure one of the puppets already had that in the base game.

Is Junko good?

>>24923613
Normal
Light/Chaos
60/75/60/50/65/35
Hate Reincarnate/Unjustness

Power
Light/Chaos
100/125/100/90/110/65
Hate Reincarnate/Unjustness

Speed
Light/Dark
90/80/90/125/80/125
Hate Reincarnate/Unjustness

Extra
Void
Hate Reincarnate/Absorbent
120/80/120/75/120/75

The rest is up to her moveset.

Is there more to Makai in the expansion? It feels somewhat empty in the main game, with just two shops, a puppet box and some grass.

Which Reimu seems more "canon?" Power or Defense? Defense keeps her normal typing, but Power is the type that Reimu herself uses.

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>>24923602
>>24923612
There's already Free Breather, See-Through seems like it is a variation for flavour, just like Turboblaze.

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>All these defensivehus
Who stall-revival here?

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>>24923931
This here's /genbu/ territory.

>>24923931
Walls =/= stalk
There still are things that can kill these walls too fast for stall setups.

>>24924188
*stall
Fuck, new year hangover

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>>24924193
>tfw god-tier genes so I don't get hangover no matter how much I drink or even if I spent the whole night puking my guts out from how shitfaced I got
Feels good man

Did I read correctly that you regain charms after battle?

>>24924293

Yup, any and all held items are restored to how they were at the start of the battle no matter what.

No destroying, no stealing, no single-use-onlys.

where is the hidden path in bamboo forest

>>24924654

Down, Up, Down, Left, Left, Right, Up, Right, Up, Down

>>24923009
But seriously, why.

Why would you make something with 120/70/70 defenses get a special attack almost as high as fucking Kyogre, and then give it the one move it needs to make it's speed a benefit instead of a drawback?

WHY

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>>24924710

Because Wiggywaggy is a good fish.

>>24924724
Did you mean a goldfish?

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>>24924727

Goldfish aren't good for eating. She's the exact opposite of a goldfish.

>>24924727
>>24924733
Goldfishes have a natural lifespan of 10 years. Fishbowls are murder.

>momojiS
>pure steel
>no reliable steel move
>aerilate

fucking why

i get the espeed gimmick but why

>>24924724
Oh I forgot that one of her abilities gives her moves a 50% boost WHILE UNDER GENBU.

Do I need to underline the insanity of that when you're sitting on 145 special attack?

How can you just go "it's okay because she's cute" when she's making a damn good impression of being KYOGRE

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>>24924767
Welcome to waifu bias. If you think Wakasagihime just look at how Hecatia is a Aegislash and Deoxys-A fusion.

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>>24924751

She's still a very good high-speed attacker with surprisingly decent bulk and of course the pseudo-STAB extreme speed, #41 weekly and #33 all-time.

Her having absolutely no good damaging attacks other than wind and steel is what really holds her back.

>>24924767

In the end she is still but a simple fish. Fish can always be dealt with.

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>>24924767

>>24924773
HecatiaE at least has the balancing factor of absolutely godawful 4MSS; if she could do everything she could she would be broken, but you have to make consolations and cuts so the end result is you open up holes for the opponent to exploit.

WakasagiE needs just one turn to become a killing machine that would make most Ubers flee in sheer panic. One. Turn.

>>24924751
Pre-expansion she had both Killing Bite and Crysthanemum Water, which are perfectly usable Steel attacks. Did she lose those in the expansion or something?

>>24924800

Pretty sure he was complaining about those being 90 and 85 accuracy, which is a somewhat valid complaint.

Still really good attacks though and she makes good use of them.

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>>24924767
pfffhahaha for real? That's some nutty shit. You know, the normal game had some pretty good balance. I have a feeling the new meta is going to be a good deal more turbulent.

Huh, I just looked up to see if MomijiS got any changes and, well, that guy's wish got granted.

She got armor piercing (90 power 100 accuracy steel), dropped 10 spread attack for 10 more focus attack, burn strike (90 power 90 accuracy increased crit rate fire), a +foatk +fodef buff and a new ability "頑強".

She also got skill card access to clearing mist (100 accuracy, power scales with opponent's cost being higher than yours, steel) but I have no idea how much damage that thing does.

My waifu just got a hell of a lot better, thank you based Hemo.

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>>24924767
>>24924840
It's this ability, if someone more proficient at reading runes than me (read: able to read anything at all and not just identify matching words from elsewhere) wants to take a look at it.

Oh yeah, EKogasa has it too with 120 FAtk. She seems to lack high-power STABs to abuse it with though, and has a more modest 55 base Speed.

>>24924857

And then for some reason they completely gutted MomijiD by removing chrysanthemum water and battle preparation in return for armor piercing, break shot and screw rock despite her already being nonexistent on the usage charts.

I don't get it.

Where do I go once I visited the Moriya shrine?

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>>24924861
I lied; her level 70 move is a Favorable Big Wave (Water Megahorn clone).

>>24924891
Back down the mountain along the east side, make sure to stop by the cat village and pick up the map. After that go back to the first route and smash rocks to make your way into Hell.

>>24924891

Plot wise go all the way back to Route 1 and find some rocks to smash.

However, it is strongly recommended you go find some rocks to smash near the Moriya Shrine first and explore around there. So you can get Fly.

>>24924891

Go down the back path to the right of the shrine until you reach a rest stop on the mountain. Go right from there to reach Mayohiga and find the gap map from Chen.

Use the gap map to teleport back to route 1 and then head north past a breakable rock.

>>24924902
>>24924901
>>24924897
H-huh?
I ended up north of Scarlet mansion, how did that happen?

>>24924939

The back path past Moriya Shrine leads all the way back down to the lake, you missed the rest stop in the middle of it that has an alternate path going to the right towards Mayohiga.

>>24924944
Please don't tell me I have to go all the way back again.

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>>24924857

that guy here

>those changes

also she always had imposing air, if that's what you mean by +fo buff.

momijiD is basically a meme with sukunaD around.

>>24924975
>imposing air

disregard, i'm illiterate

>>24924966

If you jumped off the ledge then yeah I think you do, but I never really explored that section too thoroughly. Have fun bud.

>>24924975

Nope, she got shadow power now which is +foatk +fodef in addition to imposing air being +foatk +spd.

>>24924783
Does someone have Wakasagi's sprite?

This is important so I can imagine her murdering Smogon teams

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>>24925007

She is very intimidating.

>>24925007
>>24925012
>anon's dream about Wakasagi destroying God himself is coming true

Twas no dream.
It was a vision of things to come.

>>24925007
Not good enough.

It should be her waifu sprite.

>>24925007
>>24925012
Where are the drawfags?

Wakasagihime lying on top of the corpses of Mega Mom, Thundurus, Landorus, Cresselia, Heatran and Amoongus all smiley and cute drawing where?

Also, Wakasagihime swimming with P-Kyogre drawing where?

>>24925042
You mean on top of the corpses of Mega Rayquaza, Primal Kyogre, Primal Groudon, Arceus, Mewtwo, and Xerneas.

But agreed on the latter.

How many puppets are Dream type?

>>24925053
>"Effective immediately, WakasagiE is hereby banned from all competitive tiers, including Ubers. Not since Mega Ray has there been something this degenerate and unstable to the Ubers tier, and it's time to rip out the cancer so we can go back to the status quo."

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Are there any significant changes to Yukari that we know about other than the Extra form?

>>24925272

YukariD got a new skill that swaps her focus attack and focus defense and a 50 power 100 accuracy focus illusion attack that does double damage if she goes second in addition to something else that isn't translated yet "ショックパライズ"

YukariP got "フォースシールド" and gained some more pretty straight-forward basic attacks, nothing really worth noting.

>>24925424
I wonder which will end up being better: D or E?

Granted this question does hinge on what types turn out to be greater threats in the meta, which is an entirely different discussion all together.

What is in the Netherworld? Side area? Part of the main story now?

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>>24925456
Well for starters I would say "beware RaikoA"

You know how ridiculous Rotom-Wash is? Imagine that, except with Parting Shot instead of (or in ADDITION TO) Volt-Switch, an electric type Giga Drain if you don't want to use Pain Split, and still having the dreaded Will'o'Wisp. Only 3 resistances and no immunity, but you still have only one weakness and one of your two abilities (Disturber) reduces the opponent's special attack whenever RaikoA gets hit by a move she resists.

Not even waifu bias talking; Rotom-Wash is disgustingly good in Pokemon, and RaikoA appears to be that except possibly even better.

>>24925456

Also need to know what all her new untranslated skills / abilities are first.

P still seems as shitty as ever unless that one new untranslated skill she got somehow ends up being amazing, but D seems to have some interesting potential with being able to turn into a focus nuker.

I don't think E's really going to see much use, she doesn't seem bad but she suffers from that constant dilemma of having her effectiveness spread out too thin with no specialty and not enough raw BST to make up for it, especially when she has a pretty mediocre skill selection for everything that's translated so far.

Why aren't people hyping Power Doremy more?

Base 125 Special Attack and Base 125 Speed, Nether/Illusion typing, and she gets the ridiculousness that is Starving Spirit.

>>24925531
Seriously, do I need to point out the obvious?

Nether is resisted only by Light.

Illusion hits Light for SE. Literally the only type combo that resists both is Void/Light.

Why are we not panicking over this

>>24925531

She already got brought up before, it's just not terribly exciting to see yet another good high speed nuker in a game that's flooded with them compared to all the other wacky shit that's going on.

Gotta build up that theorycrafting hype with the cool stuff.

>>24925537
Everyone is too busy pissing themselves over the godfish. Unless your Doremy one shots it on her first turn your whole team is fucked.

>>24925424
Alright, thanks for the info.

Also, does anyone know where I can find a copy of the base game to run the expansion off of?

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>>24925561
https://mega.nz/#!CwYgyDzZ!041MysrWA-f7K2Gx3mz_NyH-VbC3Zk2-BHwAfn-jGRc

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>>24925531
Just another glass cannon in a game that has tons of glass cannons, and she dies to priority like mad. She's good but we had Rin to deal with in the base game and she didn't break it completely.

WakasagiE is fucking terrifying to me; I never thought a BST 480 could be this ungodly dangerous but welp. She's like Geomancy Xerneas + Kyogre despite being so much lower in BST.

All hail the waifu fish

>>24925624
Praise be to Wakasagihime.

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>tfw the cutest nature type is also the best

>>24925646
WakasagiE is Water/Nature, so this is true

>>24922072
>You'll need a properly installed version of the game, the above version won't work

Not quite correct, but making it work with the stand-alone version takes more work. I modified the .ini so it points to the proper location and specified that the expansion be installed in the same folder containing the original game. No issues.

The .ini modification may not be strictly necessary for installation, but it will be to patch.

>>24925513
>D seems to have some interesting potential with being able to turn into a focus nuker.
Eh, I'm not so sure in practice. Giving your opponent a free turn while you set up seems like a bad deal, and the reward isn't mind-blowing. Maybe that would be cool in a genbu team?

I wonder how dark is going to do this time around. In the base game it's generally a curse to bear.

>>24925585

This needs to be patched right?

>>24925657
i don't recall patching mine, it should work fine

>>24925653
>in the same folder containing the original game
in the same folder containing the original game folder*

>>24925660

Well then I'm at a loss for ideas why this isn't fucking working.

>>24925653

https://warosu.org/jp/thread/S12872368#p12876936

Is this accurate to what you did for making the expansion work with the standalone?

>>24925665
Because if you don't have an .ini in AppData/FocasLens that points to the install location it doesn't work.

>>24925705

But I do have an .ini file there pointing to the install location!

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>>24925703
yes. Pic related. please don't laugh at my atrocious file structure

>>24925718
Is it pointing to the correct directory?

I was the one who originally asked for the ISO, and I managed to get everything working just fine.

>>24925718
Do you have one for the main game, and another for the expansion?

>>24925728

Alright, I'm putting together a quick little pastebin on how to get the expansion working via both methods for the next OP.

Is there a way to increase or restore SP?

>>24925732

Yes.

>>24925746
In battles? No. But you can just rest anywhere, open and close and Akyuu doll or forget and learn the move again if you got the PP.

>>24925760
I never thought about learning a move again to refill it.

What do you mean by "rest anywhere"?

>>24925760
>forget and learn the move again if you got the PP.
This is why Gamefreak gives a move learned via a TM the same current PP as the move it replaces, right?
Given that TM moves don't cost PP in this game (only level up moves do), you can theoretically subsist entirely off of Continue to heal your puppets and restore their moves by re-learning them.
The only time I had to do this was in Hakurei Mountain, though.

>>24925760
>forget and learn the move again

sweet, I wasn't sure if that worked, since in pokemon the TM has the same PP% as the replaced move.

>>24925769
I didn't really mean anywhere, just find a resting spot, inn and even some NPCs will share sweets or something similar when talking to them, which heals and refills puppets.

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>>24925742
Sounds like a good idea.


I'm really liking the Taoist addition. Fighting through all of them is pretty hype, and the music is great.

>>24925824

On the subject of music, music rips when?

>>24925802
Ah, thought I was missing out on something lol

>>24925824

http://pastebin.com/X5fU9Cde

I'll have it up in the OP for the next thread, if anyone has anything else to add to it feel free to let me know.

Does the expansion take the save game data from the vanilla game when you install it or after being installed and if so how?

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>Use a ground attack
>Miko switches in Futo who's immune to it
>continues to switch intelligently when needed
>Even uses weather
>Miko proceeds to trash me in spite of being a lower level
>proper AI in a fucking pokemon-like game

this shit is blowing my mind

>>24925852

It has not even begun yet Anon.

I'm retarded and can't install the expansion. Please help.

>>24925869

I'm the guy who was having issues.

I burned the iso to a different disk and ran that and it worked so I don't even know what the fuck anymore.

>>24925845
It takes the save data from the save game folder inside the directory the .ini mentioned above refers to.
You'll be in some space realm and Doremy will take your puppets. If you have no saved game data detected the game will just start like normal.

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bloody hell I completely forgot about Reimu

>>24925852
Good god those E3 rematches I was already terrified of now appear to be Smogon-try-hard level bad.

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>>24925950
seriously just look at this bitch

>>24925979

You just got fucking smug'd on kid, go back to bed and let the big boy mikos handle this incident.

>>24925950
>>24925979
Oh god she's become fucking Gary Oak

Please tell me she's as smug as him

[REIMU WAS HERE]
[ANON IS A LOSER]
________| |________
________| |________

man I am really starting to hate all the dead ends and red herrings behind huge patches of grass. the map is hard enough to navigate as it is since everything looks the goddamn same, but this intentional misdirection is just a dick move.

Welp.

Battle Tower equivalent is going to be an absolute nightmare if the AI is this intelligent.

Anyone know how to hack abilities so you can put AkyuuA's ability on ShinkiE and have immunity to EVERYTHING? WonderTomb V2: BST 600 edition. Not for online obviously (it would probably be blocked) but for curbstomping the Battle Tower

>>24926092

What's wrong, anon? Is your waifu not good enough to help you win?

Surely your tastes aren't so bad that you chose a subpar waifu, right?

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>>24926112
Can you truly blame a man for devs hating his waifu?

>>24926092
Better than those 100% accuracy sheer colds, right?

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>>24926112
Even a subpar waifu is still entirely capable of winning in this game. It's not like Pokemon where if your favorite is Delibird you're shit out of luck.

If he's doing this, it's because he's so bad at playing that he can't use his waifus right at all and has to cheat to do anything right. Are you not trying your best with your waifus? Are you?

Also, trying to cheat your way past it won't work, the game won't let you into the Battle Tower equivalent unless you have a completely legal team for online play anyways.

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>>24925881
>burned the iso to a different disk

Just making sure here anon, but you do know you can virtually mount .iso files via a program like magicISO, right? You'll never have to burn a disk again.

>>24926128
Come now anon, while she doesn't appear to be top tier material her Extra form seems pretty solid, and the metagame shifts may help her Defense form out. It does suck having only two forms to choose from, though

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>>24926198
I'm not the anon who asked about cheating, and I don't think that Yukari is that bad, even if some of the decisions made for her seem absolutely baffling. whoever decided that giving power yukari a skill that splits her attack with the opponent's was a good idea is a fucking retard

I do agree with >>24926192 though, as long as you try your damnedest I'm pretty sure even the most hardcore Karenfag could make it through everything the game has.

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>>24926192
Also, you know the 50% to all stats dream fragment in the game's data?

Turns out that number was off; it actually DOUBLES THEM. 2xFoATK, 2xFoDEF, 2xSpATK, 2xSpDEF, 2xSpeed. And the kicker is maximum happiness (which requires raising a puppet from level 1 to level 100) will let a puppet get the stat boosts even without having a heart mark. And as previously mentioned, it also works as a Native Grace for everyone, so it'll make leveling weaker puppets up go faster to boot!

If you give your waifu that she'll become unstoppable. Fuck Mega Rayquaza, we have something that destroys the very concept of competitive balance forever that you can put on ANYTHING. Raiko > Ubers

I would like to reiterate that this and the weaker 10% version are banned online, but in-game it means even the Makai rematches will cease to put up a fight against your waifu.

>>24926198

I had already tried that it didn't work. At this point it was just a hail Mary.

And it worked for some reason. I've given up trying to understand and am just going to go with it at this point.

>>24926192
>Hemo put a hack check into the Battle Tower

Literally why

Why not just let me cheat my way to the prizes?

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>>24926262
>2xFoATK, 2xFoDEF, 2xSpATK, 2xSpDEF, 2xSpeed
We're toying with forces unimaginable. Now I am become Death, destroyer of worlds.

>>24926262
AotCbro needs to chill, I find these little changes cool but not exactly in the hype territory.

>>24926262

Does raising a puppet from 1 to 100 let them wear the wedding dress?

>>24926262

Alright now that's gone from being "Wow that's gonna trivialize post-game content" to "This is literally just a cheat item for people that are having trouble".

Which I guess is okay enough.

>>24925852
>>this shit is blowing my mind
Pokemon may be the most popular, but it's easily and by far the most bottom of the barrel of "collect "thing" and make them fight" games. Pokemon could be so MUCH more but it'll truly be able to be while on the hands of Gamefreak.

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>>24926289
What are you, casul?

>>24926289

Do we even know what the prizes are?

>>24926289
What are the prizes, by the way?

>>24926295
It's hype in the "this breaks the game" way.

>>24926298
Thing is no one knows how to get it yet; the current best guess is 50 win streak in the Battle Tower equivalent.

And with how good the AI is, that'll be extremely difficult.

>>24926346
>>24926347
Nope, not yet. Could be move tutors, could be heart marks, could be the "win the game" held item, could just be for fun.

>>24926298
What's preferable? Having this? Where everyone and anyone can select if they'd like to play the game properly with a good difficulty, pick the a bit easier difficulty or the handholded baby difficulty? Or having what the Pokemon games have where you have only the last option and you'll like it.

Hemo should take over Gamefreak. He has made more smart choices in less than 2 years than GF has in 20 years.

>>24926353
I guess I can see it, is the suped up version of the dream fragment post game? Hell, for that matter is the normal version acquired in pre-post?

>>24926368

Your starter comes with it automatically right off the bat.

Huh, this is strange. Do imported puppets from your old save not receive the appropriate updates to them from the expansion?

I poked my nose through the start of the expansion with my imported save just a little bit and got my Momiji back at 5 level where she still has her full A+ IVs instead of the new S, but more interestingly she also still has fair & square in normal style which is supposed to be gone now.

Would things get updated when she style changes or would she still be using the old base-game skillsets? That'd be seriously weird as fuck if it's the latter but that's what it looks like it's doing to begin with.

>>24926376
So all the normal version does is an all around 10% stat buff? Doesn't seem too bad.

A few miscellaneous points of interest I found from reading over the changes to older puppets:

Defense Parsee had 20 points shifted from SpAtk to HP, bringing her up to 65/120/110 defenses.

Power Meira changed from a Steel/Dark type to a Fighting/Electric type.

Defense Seija is now Poison/Light. Additionally, Speed Seija lost access to Arclight, but gained access to two new skills, 憂鬱の雨 and 毒の濁流.

Defense Mystia had her stats totally reshuffled, from 85/90/75/65/115/50 to 85/70/75/80/120/50.

>>24926262
Wait, so max happiness lets you use dream shards? Does the same go for the wedding outfit?

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Good news regarding the Battle Tower equivalent; it's pick 3 of your 6 against your opponent's set 3, and each possible opponent isn't randomized in terms of team at all.

For instance, if you fight Yoshika, you will always have to deal with the same 3 puppets. In her case, it's basically Banded body & soul, Scarfed body & soul, Sugilite body & soul. So ridiculous gimmicks will show up

>>24926834
Expectations were that we'd face a few gimmick teams. What has me curious though is what is in store for us on the more serious teams.

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>>24925007
I guess Hemo wanted to compensate for that time he couldn't resist and draw lewd of her being raped by a tentacle monster, pic related is the ending.

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>>24926001
At least Gary "care" about you in some sense, this bitch only sees you as trash on her way.

>>24927028
That's an adorable ending

>>24927063
You should see his other doujin, BTW, do you guys think his old artstyle was more cute?

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>>24927120
Forgot pic

>>24925705
I don't have the .ini, Could someone upload their's?

So Puppets pretty much balanced the power gap between humans and youkai right?

I mean, they seem to be able to go all over gensokyo safely as long as they can win puppet battles.

>>24927133
Yup. Now get ready to say goodbye to Gensokyo, since that power gap was the only reason it could exist.

>>24927129
Then you have to make it since it has to point to wherever YOU have the game.

>>24927133
You can go all over Gensokyo safely as long as you can win danmaku battles too, it's just humans are apparently better with puppets because reasons?
I still think there were no regular humans on the way to the former hell, or Makai, or even inside the Forest of Magic.

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>>24927150
Hell is hell and the forest has that fucking miasma that is supposed to be deadly to humies

>>24927164
Wait, isn't the stolen hat RIGHT ON HER HEAD

Suwako pay attention

Apparently there's a New Game +.

If you beat the game then start a new one, the puppets in your winning party will go into the box in the new game and they'll all have the Waifu Hearts

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>>24927184
But you lose all your other boxed puppets? also, has anybody ripped out the new art? I want a full render of happy yuuka.

>>24927184

Yes. Now the wedding dress dream team can be created.

>>24927184
Thank you. I finally have an excuse to just use my old starter for the expansion playthrough.

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>>24927246
>needing an excuse to do that

Why abandon your starter

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Huh, so Sumireko can be found to the left of the human village. Wonder where the other new puppets are.

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I finally got the game working!

>>24927262
Because more wives.

>>24927274
The hidden area in the Bamboo Forest has a house that teleports you to space.

>>24927164
I thought the miasma was just something that made people go insane or something. I'd at least get drugged there once.

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>>24927299
Is hecatia there?

>>24927303
I guess, both seem like a bad time with asshole monsters rolling about

>>24927306
She's rare, but yes

Could someone post the new type chart please?

Do stat boosts dispel when you switch a 2hu out?

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>>24927208
Ask and you shall receive, anon.

>>24927324
Es literally in the pastebin.

>>24927329
Yes.

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>>24927320
I mean the Actual Hecatia, i refuse to believe Hemo didn't add her.

>>24927333
Ah, didn't know that.
Thanks.

>>24927333
Anon, tell me you have a link to a file full of the new art.

>>24927333
My apologies, I'm a little dense on these things and need to work on my wording.

If you switch it out and then back in will it's specific stat boosts have dispelled?

>>24927335

Amazingly he didn't.

>>24927335
The real Hecatia is in a part of Hell that you can only reach in postgame, through a different suspiciously empty house with a bed somewhere else.

So out of the new additions, which ones are the standouts?

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>>24927333
Nice anon, tell me you have a link to the ripped art download.

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>>24927360
Yes! i knew he would add her, let's celebrate with hecatia's theme remixes fresh from the comiket.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UpnQ2QNP44

>>24927371
RikaE (aka Aegislash), HecatiaE (Aegislash combined with Deoxys), and WakasagiE (Genbu sweeper that with Genbu up is basically Kyogre) are the ones that have people the most panicked

But they'll probably be worse than AyaP anyways

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>>24927347
>>24927373
Surprises are fun, though. If you, two, really want to see the new body-portraits, I will edit the pastebin with a mega link in about a week from now.

>>24927349
Yes, the stat boosts will be gone.

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>>24927396
>one week
You are mean!

>>24927386
What about the other newhus?

>>24927396

Do you happen to have the music as well or is that compressed differently?

>Checking the PC no longer restores your puppet's health.
Those monsters!

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>>24927382
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIu51nBkwCQ

>>24927405

It's still the early days man. We only started shitting our pants about Waggysaggy E earlier today.

>>24927410

Did you try depositing and undepositing a puppet?

I doubt they went through the effort of recording puppets health in the box.

>>24927404
Gotta throw Hemo a bone here, if people are already downloading YnK for free.

>>24927408
Still located where they always were.

>>24927440
>Still located where they always were.
So...no new music?

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You don't need a general for this. You never did. The game just barely classifies as Pokemon anyway.

>>24927449
New music; located in same folder as the rest of the old music.

>>24927410
This anon >>24927431 is correct; depositing and withdrawing a puppet will heal the puppet.

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>>24927456
Come here and face my stand.

>>24927456
>not just linking to /jp/ and be done with it

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According to IRC, the first reward from the Battle Tower is 5 prismatic candies at 20 wins; there's no BP to get or move tutors to learn.

He then immediately afterwards got swept by SukunaD

>>24927504
Who you fight at the battle tower? random NPCs with a 2hu at the end or random as fuck?

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>>24927518
Random 2hus with set teams

It seems like the cuter a puppet is, the more dangerous it is

>>24927459
Don't tarnish what I like with your cancer.

>>24927559
thanks for the reply

>>24927431
>>24927457
Ok, yeah, sure, but in the original game you could simply check the pc, and all your party's hp would be restored. It was a nice trick, faster than healing the normal way, and the speed run used it over healing whenever possible.

So is the puppetdex updated for the expansion?

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>>24927559
You have no right to complain, nobody forced you to come here and shitpost.

>>24927457
Which folder is that

>>24927599
Not yet.

>>24927680
gn_dat2 > sound > bgm

Will be off, now; not supposed to be here, anyways.

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>>24926285
Well that makes little sense. Whatever though, glad it worked out for you anon.

>>24927286
what made it work?

>>24927299
hoh shit. That sounds interesting.


Also, have you ever liked a character so much you became an NPC?

Is it me or is there a few things from the demo missing in the expansion? Like NPC puppets and the Seija hidden in route 1

How do you extract the arc files?

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>>24927778
I don't know what I'm looking at but I find it adorable

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What did she mean by this?

>>24927778
I just had to track down the .iso for the original game.

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>>24927860

It's a chewing sound. Made infamous by it being in Ringo's mugshot in LoLK.

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RIGHT, I JUST REMEMBERED.

How goes testing the jizos/tanuki statues around the map? Apparently you could offer items to the one in town, but they never elaborated on what happens.

>>24928169

It might just be like tipping.

>>24927396

>Edit the pastebin

I was just earlier thinking about having to copy over all that work to a new one so I could add new things to it myself without having to bug you, but looks like you're still around eh? Had a feeling you would be.

Are you gonna be keeping that thing up to date then?

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>>24928287
> but looks like you're still around eh?
Anons kept on bullying me about spelling mistakes in the pastebin, and I've decided to come here and tease people as payback.

>Are you gonna be keeping that thing up to date then?
Will be keeping the pastebin up to date until the day I die.

>>24928354

Good to have ya back baka-translator-kun. I'll still have new-thread duty taken care of if you need me to.

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>>24928365
>Good to have ya back
>I'll still have new-thread duty taken care of if you need me to.
Nah, nah, resume working on making the threads; I was serious when I said that the sole reason I came back was to tease people as payback. Now, that I'm done teasing people, I am heading back out.

>>24928402

Aight, can do chief.

I'll keep leaving your pastebin there for as long as you keep it updated.

We need more baka-translator-kun in our lives.

>>24928524
Let's hack him into the game.

>>24928553
Hack everyone in the thread into the game. Raikoanon appears to have beaten us to it but that doesn't mean we can't do so

>>24928553
How do we do that? Won't he be hurt?

>>24928524
Nineball-sensei?
More like nineBUTT-sensei!

I'll eventually figure out where to go next then, after I've gotten online enabled, I'll be coming for each and every one of you.

>>24928577
it would be extremely painful

Wait wait wait hold the fuck up.

So is the expansion implying that you've been to Gensokyo before the original game and that your starter knows you from then?

>>24928688
It was all a dream n' shit.

Hey, so, I left the dream world/lunar capital and now whenever I sleep in the bed in the hidden bamboo forest area it only heals me instead of sending me back.

Is it impossible to go back to the dream world?

>>24927286
>>24927860
How'd you swap palettes? Made my own, but I have no idea how to inject it.

Where is the Inferno spell card? I'm at Hakurei Mountain and still haven't found it.

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Hey guys what are Seiran's abilities? Is this Strategist?

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Does anybody know what these abilities are?

>>24928730
There should be a folder in your game folder called dat. Inside that is PlayerImage. Open up that folder, and you should see the sprite sheets for both the male and female pc, along with boat sprites. Just rename your sprite sheet to whatever sprite sheet you want to replace.

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>>24926001
So, how long until somebody makes a hack to replace her sprite?

>>24928871
You mean replacing HIS sprite with her sprite, right?

>>24927286
Uh, I think there's still a bug with that

>>24928861
Assuming I'm reading your post correctly, I renamed my custom sheet "GirlChip.png" in dat\PlayerImage, but in game nothing changed.

>>24928801
Download the new doll info here.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/h27zvmfbpjphowe/dollPages.zip

If it's untranslated it's new.

>>24928883
Is it the correct size? Did you make sure to name it GirlChip? Did you restart the game after doing this? Are you in the right game folder?

>>24927286
>working
>your player sprite is bugged

Uh, maybe you should reinstall?

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>>24928912
>>24928877
>Playing as best girl
>bug
>not a feature.

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>>24928900
Thanks.

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>>24928901
Ah, I forgot to check dimensions. Thanks.

shinki more like stinky

>>24928861
If nobody knows what these are, is there at least a database of abilities in Japanese? Maybe I could figure it out that way.

>>24929017
Did you make running and bike animations for her?

>>24929037
WiP JP wiki.
http://wikiwiki.jp/enbu-ap/

>>24929046
Ok, well her second ability just seems to increase her power by 1.3 at the cost of draining a bit of health every turn, so that's good to know.
Can't figure out what that first one is, though. Also, when are we getting sprite uploads? I want to make some gifs.

>>24929045
Yea, but I fucked up running up and down. Fixed the up, putting the finishing touches on down. Haven't tested the Bike and Boat animations, but they should be fine.

If you could ban one thing, what would it be?

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>>24929195
Bans.

>>24929195
Bans.

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>>24929195
Bans.

Smogon proved that trying to ban things usually just results in something else "banworthy" showing up that more often than not also gets banned. Repeat with the next thing everyone hates until the next game is released and the metashift commences to make any work the bans did completely irrelevant.

Part of that was because of power-creep; back in Gen 4 the fact that Garchomp was banned in OU was a gigantic anomaly, and then Gen 5 necesitated far more bans, didn't really work (OU was less balanced than Ubers in Gen 5), and even had something get banned from Ubers (i.e. Moody), and now Gen 6 is a complete clusterfuck (Evidence 1: Mega Rayquaza)

Here, the balance is such that there's nothing designed to be blatantly overpowered compared to everything else, the idea of "use your favorites" won't result in you getting completely destroyed with 80%+ of the picks, and there's generally much better balance than there's been in Pokemon in ages.

Ban the bans, let people just throw their favorite waifus at each other and maybe agree to limit themselves before hand if they want to. Competitiveness doesn't really belong here.

>>24929289
So...your saying that the ultimate waifu is just....our waifu?

how do i play online

>>24929389

beat the game

>>24929395

i did

>>24929289
Don't forget that it's the cause that almost everyone is using almost the same teams, there is no fun in that.

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>>24929104
And the result.

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So via the power of hacking a +8 priority 100% accuracy OHKO move into the game to beat everything, IRC managed to figure out how the Battle Tower equivalent works and all the rewards.

Opponents have set teams that stay the same each time you face them and are classified by tier; Tier 0 are complete idiots with no EVs and possibly even unevolved puppets, Tier 1 is less stupid but still don't know how to use EVs, and then the others are actually competent. You appear to go up a tier every 10 wins in a row, but that's not confirmed yet. Character power level seems to have some effect on their tier, but it isn't by any means set in stone. Suika for instance is only Tier 1, while Letty is Tier 4. Raiko's tier 2.

Set fights against certain opponents at 10, 15, 20, 25, 30, 35, 40, 45, 48, 49, and 50, all others are random. No repeats. Breaks are allowed every 5 wins.

Every 10 wins you get a reward: Rather than BP or an equivalent like in Pokemon, it's just items.

10 wins is 20 magical fragments.
20 wins is 5 prismatic candies.
30 wins is a new held item (Hakurei Amulet, which is in effect a second Native Grace)
40 wins are some fate threads.
50 wins gets you the upgraded version of the dream fragment discussed earlier in the thread.

Note that unlike in Pokemon, it is NOT infinite in length until you lose: Your streak automatically ends after 50 wins in a row (although you can run it again obviously); no trying to make a streak last 500+ wins in a row like some Smogonites do in this game.

Difficulty is a joke up until round 20, then it becomes legit Battle Tower levels of pain.

Fun fact: there was actually a hard counter to the hacked OHKO move in there, and it wasn't something with a "can't be OHKO'd" ability (since those only make it so you survive with 1 HP if you get hit by a OHKO move rather than flat immunity like in Pokemon).

>>24929557
OHKO move = move w/ high BP?
or
OHKO move = instant kill?

>>24929564
The latter.

>>24929566
http://162.208.49.218/wiki/Fair_%26_Square
You're such a dork, Lightli.

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>>24929570
Welp I was wrong. Indomitable doesn't give OHKO immunity though to be fair.

There was a second counter to it outside of that though which I was referring to.

He ran into a LettyE with an ability that makes it so all attack moves with BP50 or less don't work at all, and the OHKO move being classified as a variable power move was stopped short by it. Said LettyE commenced to buff her defenses to the sky and required PP-stalling her out with an AkyuuA before she went down.