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3DS eShop Sale
>http://www.siliconera.com/2014/10/20/shin-megami-tensei-iv-3ds-games-discount-sale/

PSN Weekly Deals
>http://blog.us.playstation.com/2014/10/21/playstation-store-update-365/ (if Catherine isn't on sale now, it will be during Halloween sale shit - I can't find the link about those offhand)

>Starter guide
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10886965/smtstarterguide.png

>Tips and tricks
http://pastebin.com/qqxkrWFh

>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
http://pastebin.com/fgVp423S

>Misc. Translations
http://pastebin.com/LHKVLNQB

>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/

>Recommended Reading
http://pastebin.com/YppqPPjf

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Who doesn't want to fuck Mirai?
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>>85058119
thanks anon.
here's the full picture then
excuse the whole dark souls and oc bullshit
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CHIAKi BEST
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Hua Po is my waifu.
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Shit, the great taste in this thread revives my hope for /smtg/.
Please let this thread be the best /smtg/-thread ever. I believe in you, anons!
Give it your best!
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>>85061248
PS: best is short for bestiality
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>>85061492
That is not a word, anon.
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>>85061724
Last time I checked it was one.
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>>85060769
Not. A. Problem.
PRAISE THE SUN!

>>85061248
Many thanks; I believe in you too.
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SMT IF WHEN
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I'm a few hours into SMT IV so far, and I'm really digging it. Does Ma affect your magic defense in this game? If not, is there any reason to put points into it if I'm going for a physical build?
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>>85062142
If Hathor is a best girl, then I'm definitely into bestiality.
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>>85063710
No.
SMT IV has no defense status, just HP.
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>>85063949
So I can just ignore Ma outright?
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WHERES THE STREAM?
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>>85064519
If you're not going to use magic, ignore it.
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>>85064519
And Str too.
DX please.
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>>85064519
Your stats can go as high as 999 and a little beyond that even if it shows 999.

Luck that high means you will always get a critical, even when they resist the attack.
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>finished Nocturne

I feel so empty.
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>>85066403
Yes...
Emptiness is all there is...

Embrace it...
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Is there any point buying any of the weapons and armor early game in 4? They all seem overpriced for mediocre increases
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>>85066865
how early are you
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>>85062430
Thanks and that amaterasu looks fucking adorable.
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>>85066968
pretty damn early, like a couple hours in
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>>85066865
Don't bother, you get a decent armor set for free not too far in the game.
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Jesus how much does this game expect you to grind? Came across these 2 Naga enemies who could just one shot anyone on my team
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>>85068175
>grinding in a smt game

ROFL fuck off

consider using spells your enemy is weak to
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>>85068175
You shouldn't need to grind at all.
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>>85068275
>Using ROFL
>Can't find the shift key
>Gives shitty advice
>Can't use periods

Fuck off.
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>>85068431
wow youre so cool dude!
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>>85068494
>Still can't find the shift key, or use apostrophes

Did children get the day off from Halloween and came to shitpost in /smtg/?
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How should I be prioritising my apps?
Are the scout/negotiate ones worth it?
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>>85068742
They give you a lot of money, and you can use them on bosses for some fun dialogue.
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>>85068570
Nobody gets off for Halloween, it's like 7-9PM too.
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>>85067083
>tfw you notice you forgot to draw the ear and now you have a 1 hour deadline to the end of halloween
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>>85068494
Eat shit faglord
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IF... WHERE
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>>85068742
get the MP recovery ones
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>>85069048
Ask Gideon.
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>>85069304
fuck Gideon yo
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If... who?
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I want to fuck Mirai
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Is recruiting demons in 4 literally complete luck based?
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>>85060769
Why does she have a tail?
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>>85070012
It's pure skill, dude
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>>85070012
Deny them Macca. Give them life stones.
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>>85070012
Deny them everything and they join you.
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>expecting halloween all year
>just play with a jack frost
>waiting outside
>no jack frost

;__;

you guys lied to me.
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>>85070158
She's a SMT II Nekomata.
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Persona started at 4
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>>85070959
Oh that's cool. I thought it was just the maiden in black.
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>>85069786
i want that one drawfriend to draw mirai being groped
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>>85068808
>You can negotiate with bosses.

How did I not know this.
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>>85071492
i want the pedos to go
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>>85071713
we're all here
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¡Feliz noche de brujas /smtg/!
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>>85071226
I fucked up and forgot her ear. I'm sorry
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>>85071734
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>>85071734
Voy a poner una foto de Spookie en el altar este año.
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>>85072265
Muy Spookie para mi
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>>85071734
Saludos desde la capital del imperio.
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Why arent you playing with the fairies smtg
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>>85073247
I did.
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>>85073247
There's only so many mitama I can feed her.
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>>85073247
>Tried to keep playing Pyro Jack after midnight
>He burns me in the fucking face and leaves
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>>85071713
Tell me you wouldn't go pedo for this semen demon.
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>Finally get gun
>That damage

You guys said guns were good.
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>>85074817
>Getting trolled into thinking guns are good

Never again.
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>>85074893
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>>85074893
Why would you guys do such a thing
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I don't really like whisper in IV, it seems like it makes the game easy to break
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>>85077975
There's literally no way else your character can learn skills.
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>get to Tokyo in SMTIV
>holy shit this is really cool
>step into a side alley
>monster horde kills me before I can even make a move
>brother has spent all 100+ my play coin reserve and he's only just reached level 10
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>>85071492
I want drawfriend to draw Mirai hanging out with her dad/mom
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>>85080890
sweet jesus that's one stacked lucy
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>>85074817
Use needle skills. Same penetration type, not shit.
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>>85081232
Do they atleast scale with dex?
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>>85081270
does the pope shits?
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Expert Scout and Scout + really make the game fun. Finally demons aren't jews anymore. Now if only the fusion system wasn't all "You don't know which demons equal which fused demon? Fuck you" but you can't change everything I guess.
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>>85083286
>You don't know which demons equal which fused demon? Fuck you

>not memorizing the fusion result

git gud.
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>>85083339
Same reason I dislike Pokemon. I can't remember that stuff. It just won't stay in my head. At least SMT has the analyze function which still isn't in Pokemon.
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Did Devil Summoner 2 keep the Auction mechanic? That was my one big problem with the first game. Really didn't care for it.
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>>85083836
You mean survivor? Yes it did. Learn to abuse it along with the compendium.
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>SMT IV starts with some old dude moaning

This is hella gay already
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>>85084742
Don't worry, it only gets better.
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>>85084742
>not liking your SMT gay
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>>85084742
>implying SMT wasn't gay to begin with
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>We live in a world right now where there isn't a pyro jack version of king frost called the great pumpkin
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>>85085408
>>85085408
>Implying
Tit count surpass penis by far, its not Kaneko faults that you take more careing for the dicks.
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I've played through part of FES and I've beaten Soul Hackers, SMT IV, and Golden, and now I'm playing P3P on emulator.
Should I pick hard or maniac difficulty because I hear the game is easier because you can control your party members.

Also, should I evenly level up every single person that I recruit? In FES I only did the original three and some battles were tougher.
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>>85086197
>implying that these tentacles are not penises
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>>85086379
>Seeing dicks in snake heads.

You have far too much fascination for dicks.

>>85086254
Go for the Mitsuru, Junpei and Akihiko Master race.
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>>85086534
>Mitsuru

Is she viable now that she literally doesn't
>Marin Karin
>Marin Karin
>Marin Karin
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>>85084742
MINNIE MINNIE TICKLE YOUR FARSIN
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>>85086670
You control her now so thats not a problem (I didnt had that problem in Fes but still).
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>>85086806
Does Mitsuru have healing and/or buffs/debuffs?

Also, is the difficulty increase fair or worth it? (unlike P4G)
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>>85086534
>Not Yukari/Akihiko/Aegis
Healer, debuffer, buffer. Its perfect.
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>>85086865
She has mind charge and a Diarahan if i remember well. Akihiko is your defacto debufer/buffer.

I havent played Golden but the last time i heard P4G is the most casual ATLUS game since Persona 2 IS. So P3P should be harder than P4G.
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>>85086998
yukari is shit
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>>85087019
Best healer. Only her and Ken get Mediarahan if I'm not mistaken. And no one is worse than Ken.
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>>85087006
I meant as in playing hard or maniac difficulty instead of normal, because P4G just increases demon health and lowers your damage I think, I read here that there weren't good difficulty options.

>>85086998
This seems like the most logical one. Yukari gets Mediarahan and Salvation, right?
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>>85087190
Mediarahan yes, Salvation no. But Mediarahan is good enough in most circumstances, and no party member gets Salvation. Yukari is the most heal focused.
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>>85087293
I think I'll use your party, it should work, sucks that you don't get Aegis until later though.

Also, I guess I'll be playing on hard and not normal or maniac.
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>tfw beating minotaur with walter and after my only buff carrier got sniped in the first exchange
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>>85087763
>buff
meant to be bufu
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>>85087190
P3P increases damage imput for both your party and the enemies, specially for exploided weaknesses. So if things go wrong, they will go horribly wrong.
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>burroughs

my dick
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>>85088589
she's so fucking annoying
>shit goes down
>Looks like your quest is going well!
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>>85086197
So what?

Apsu is a boy and he has tits on his arms. Ometeotl has a vagina on the male half and a penis on the girl half.

Tiamat evolves into Ym, who is a jellyfish penis man dragon.
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http://strawpoll.me/2895603

Oops. Forgot to post earlier. Its a little late but oh well.
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>>85088626
She doesn't have emotions. So she wouldn't see a problem with this.

Still better than Isabeau.
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>>85088757
For every one dick you get 2 to four tits, if you only notice penises the most its your own damm fault for being a fag.
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>>85088882
Dicks doesn't mean girls, just like penis doesn't mean boy.

Arioch is a vaginaboy, while Mara is a dickgirl.
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>>85089102
>Arioch is a vaginaboy,

Has anyone ever discovered why vaginaboys are so much worse than dickgirls?
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>>85088862
i just have a blowbuddy.
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>>85089102
So you would fuck Arioch or let Mara fuck you in the ass? The answer is pretty important
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>>85089327

How is that even a question? Arioch is totally disgusting looking. Mara is just a big penis.

...Actually. The size difference would probably make both impossible.
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>>85088862
Just because you're including SMT stuff in your /soc/ questions, doesn't make it okay.
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>>85089140
Still cute.
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>>85071734
Hola.
Espero que tengas un buen día de los muertos.
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I wish hindu/buddhist gods would take the stage as Chaos representative instead of Lucifer and his devils.
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>>85090864
I wish law would be something besides yhvh or his angels all the time
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>>85090864
>>85091082
I wish Neutral wouldn't be such a complicated and unfulfilling path all the time.
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>>85091082
I'll show you law, ese.
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>>85091171
He is Chaos though vato
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I wish all three sides would have more universal polytheistic gods as their representatives. Its always angels for law, devils for chaos, and a local protector deity for neutral IF that. Elsewise just muh humanity. We were apparently LUCKY in strange journey to have the "mothers" instead. I want some actual diversity. Not just a different angel each time. Or in the case of IV... not even a different angel technically.

I want some actual Buddhist gods as representatives. And even if they won't be "hands on" have some universal polytheistic gods for neutral. Some pantheons who talk about how they don't interact much with earth, but want to make sure that the "titans" are kept away from assaulting humans.

Then some other gods for law too. Dunno which. I'd even be happy with some good representatives from the vile race coming up and being them. We could have a game that's light / chaos vs dark / law, but with some good neutral pantheon as a good side as well.
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>>85091254
Alignments can easily be changed.
What is more law than giving yourself up so that the sun may continue to shine for your people?
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>>85091302

Too bad mormonism doesn't have an alternate name for Satan/lucifer. In mormonism, satan told God that a good plan for the salvation of humans is to take away free will so that everyone would live perfect lives, and thus all be saved as fast as possible. And jesus came and said that that's bad, since no muh free will. And then satan got mad that his plan was rejected, and turned into the devil messing up the humans in part to show how bad free will was. Such a character would make an awesome dark / law figure contrasted against a light / chaos base.
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>>85091673
That sounds like mastema to me
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>>85091776

Mastema was the opposite mythologically. He asked for demon subordinates so as to spread chaos among humans. Which is why I begrudgingly admit that shifting him to a neutral angel representative was clever since its arguably a good representation of his mythological form when taking into account that demons represent chaos rather than evil.

Dunno. I want Satan to show up again as a characer. But also want a different group as the law alignment, who aren't angels. Nocturne was nice, but I want things mixed up even in a standard type game. The "tradition" of always having it be lucifer vs the cardinal angels is a bit tired. Especially since in half the games they aren't even law.
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>SMT IV Naga fight
>Two crit lunges kill my two demons
>Extra turn
>Another two crits wiping all of my party

Those fuckers are hardcore as shit
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Weapons don't affect the damage of skills, right? So unless I use the normal attack or elemental bullets, I can neglect buying weapons every time they're upgraded?
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Ok, playing SMT4. Demons not in your active party receive experience, but is it the full exp or a reduced amount?

>>85092074
Fuse a demon with Agi
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>>85092564
reduced
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>Leanan Sidhe will never smirk at you
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>>85092672
What a shame.

Oh well, time to grind a little to level up this shitdemon that evolved a good spell.
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UPDATE
Im gonna be uploading the pic sometime tomorrow
Ive got it all planned out perfectly and I think you guys will enjoy it
I would've gotten it done sooner but I got addicted to a game for a few days
one more question, do you guys want it colored? I ask because Im pretty shit at coloring but I can try if you all want
this is for the merkaba and yhwh drawing
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Daily reminder that Nocturne is the best SMT game of all time.
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>>85093030
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>>85091082
Actually angels could work if they went with the less used ones or certain groups.

Like the Amesha Spenta, Angels of Death, Angels of Punishment, Angels of Destruction, etc.

>>85091302
Rahab is pretty much the weirdest one. He's been part of the Dragon Race/Type in the games he has always appeared in, even when he's a member of the angels.
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>>85093917

But they already did that in devil survivor with remiel. Okay, so now we've seen common angels AND uncommon ones. By this point they really need to do something new. IV was a good game, but it honestly didn't add much that we haven't already gone over. Other than a neutral angel representative who you might not have even noticed since he's in two scenes.
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happy halloween friends
i am drink and not fit to play smt

i called a girl a bitch atr this party and she left because of it

sorry for blog
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>>85094527
Why did you call her a bitch anon?
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>>85094527

Tell us more. Living in a wurld of str is one way to find out how stupid it is.
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>>85094527
Should've called her a whore instead.
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>>85094802
>fujoshits are the shitposters

WOW WHO WOULD HAVE GUESSED
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>>85094802
>I'm like BITCH IM 28, and she's like I'm 21
You've gotta keep your cool, Turbo Granny.
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>>85094802
Sorry, for those who don't know, to clamrify, and also because I'm drunk

You pull a card that says something with fill in the blank(s), and then everyone else plays a card to do so, and you pick the winner from the pile

Virgina Tech was what she picked, even though she didn't know what it was.
She also doesn't know who Nic Cage is.

idk man
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>>85094875

Virginia tech isn't this huge thing that everyone should be expected to know.
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>>85094868
I don't usually shitpost, and I'm not a damn fujoshi.

>>85094872
i shouldve hit her with my cane
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>>85094917
>>85094875
I guess it's just hard for us to keep track of all those shooting sprees in schools.
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>>85094917
We live in Canada, so she should've. She was old enough to know it was a big deal at the time.
And I'm not the only one that was surprised; anyway, it just led to that dialogue.

I'm just a vulgar personm.
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Anyway sorry for my drunk posting, I just needed to rant. I wish I could've stayed at home and played Freedom Wars.

Did anyone sdo something SMT related?
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>>85095104
I played smt4 all night while ignoring all the parties.

It's really fucking good so far, probably my favorite.
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>>85094317
Remiel is one angel instead of a group to represent the alignment.

I'm talking about the group as a whole. Like how there are six-seven Amesha Spenta, 7 angels of death including Samael and Michael, etc.

Not just one angel. Besides they tend to use the angels from SMTII at least once in another game. Even Zaphkiel and Haniel show up in Card Summoner, and Zaphkiel is the least used one.

Soul Hackers for example had three of the Grigori's leaders as enemies, and Kokabiel didn't show up because he's still an angel in Soul Hackers.
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>>85095104
I lamented over my tiny SD card being too small to hold SMT IV.
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>>85095186
Euro, I assume? Glad you like it bro, even though it took fucking forever
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wait is cosmo seriously retiring from speedrunning to get a stem degree?

wheres he got hte money for that
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So in IV since there is no Def stat is rakukaja useless?
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>>85095685
oh whoops wrong thread
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>>85095734
Not entirely, but you need to use it in tandem with Tarunda to notice anything significant.
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>>85095775
Should I even bother using it against minotaur at all then?
Currently getting destroyed no matter what I do.
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>>85095843
It couldn't hurt. Try getting demons with ice magic first, though.
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>>85095734
What? As far as I know your Vitality stat is what grants additional defense. That's how it's been in practically every game. Why would it change in SMT IV?
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>>85095894
The problem is his physical skills.
I go into battle expecting agi with my fire resistant armor and demons and I get facepunched to death instead.

>>85095912
There is no Vit stat in 4
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>>85095953
Oh, well disregard that then, I suck cocks.
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>>85095953
Do you even have access to demons that resist phys at that point? I can't remember.
Having Bufu lets you build up press turns and spam buffs so that you can get Rakukaja/Tarunda maxed out as early as possible. Actually, fuck Tarunda. Use Fang Breaker.
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>>85096019
>Do you even have access to demons that resist phys at that point?

William wallace is the only one I can think of. Dont have anything with tarunda or fang breaker. Ill look into it.
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>>85095054
>We live in Canada
Murrica doing the shitposting, who could've guessed?
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>>85096092
you non freedom havers are never happy, huh
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>>85087006
>Akihiko is your defacto debufer/buffer.
Akihiko doesn't even get buffs.
Akihiko + Aigis + Ken/Yukari is the only party worth shit in that game.
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>>85096830
>ever, ever, EVER using ken
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>>85096963
>muh feelings
stop giving people advice
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>>85097028
>implying ken is worth using when anybody else can do his job better
>not always having at least one buff and healing spell on at least one of the MC's personae at all times
Ken is worthless.
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>>85097074

>implying people use ken for his skills.

LMAO. They use ken since he's so smooth and supple, and I want so rub my dick on him.
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short giten update, continued directly from the last installment of This Game Isn't So Bad I Promise

http://pastebin.com/WqSvMN70
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>>85097207
What am I looking at.
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>>85097246
マンドラゴラ?
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>>85097074
Ken is Mediarahan, just like Yukari, everything else is irrelevant.
Wasting turns on MC for healing or buffing is stupid because the MC is by far the best damagedealer in the group.
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>>85097293
And what about it?
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>>85097316
この悪魔は可愛いなの?
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>>85097396
I dont find mandragoras with no eyeballs cute no.
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>>85091171
nig u crazy
Tezcatlipoca would be megaten's lawful Aztec in the pair
>zealot/vile
>dark neutral/ dark law

whether or not that's ironic with actual aztec mythology is a separate matter
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>>85096830
>Ken
>Worth shit
His light spells are situational, easily replaced by switching persona.
His lightning spells are worse than akihiko's.
his stats growth also focuses too much on agi.
He's shit.
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>>85097506

I'm not fucking the ass of something which's face literally melted off showing the skull underneath, so I don't know why its showing it to me.
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Upon realizing that I like nice define eyebrows, who has the best eyebrows in SMT?
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>>85097207
What is this? Translation? Let's Play?

And why pc98 version not windows?
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>>85097563
>Not fucking skulls
Let me guess, you have some shitty 2D female waifu with tits and long hair and skin and all that shit.
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>>85095953
I had 2 demons (+MC) with Rakukaja and one with Sukukaja, so my first turn I used all of those then spammed Bufu on it with my MC and regular attacks/healing with my demons.

He didn't put up much of a fight, the only minor issue I had was when he used his multi hit move twice in a row one of my demons died.

At that point if you fuse right you can also get a demon with Sukunda as well, so you can just make him miss fucking everything and never get to move.
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>Finish turn of random battle
>Only 1 enemy left
>Jonathan: THERES AN OPENING
>Casts Bufu
>Against an demon immune to Ice
>DEMON SMIRKS
>CRIT KOS 2 OF MY DEMONS

Fuck you Jonathan
I'm going with Walter out of spite
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Its true that 4 gets easier later? Because so far is fucking brutal, lack of defense means even level one demons can kill you.
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>>85099746
>implying Walt is better
Yes, Isabeau is a retard too.
You have no choice. There's only one path whith no retards.
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>>85100817
jonathan, pls
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>>85100817
Meh, just ignore the retards and do whatever, anything better than the White.
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>>85099613

I was in the same bag, two demon with bufu was enough but for Medusa I had to teach my MC zan and have three zan demon. Fuck this bullcrap
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>First Hunter Tournament round
>Crit
>Crit
>Weakspot
>Buff
>Weakspot

Whelp. Time to grind to kill those Pokemon rejects.
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>>85101686
Don't get attached to a team. You very well may have to fuse them away to power up for a boss.

Such is life.
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>>85102896
Fusing demons for just a single boss is a thing too.
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>>85101686
Most demons are like condoms. You should change as soon once they're pst their expiration date.
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>>85100418
I'm a few hours into the tokyo part and so far everything after medusa has been a cakewalk. And I found medusa annoying (but not minotaur).
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>>85104537
The hardest for me so far was David.

Blight almost always killed at least 1 demon (and poisoned everything else)

And Mamudo had the annoying habit of hitting MC every time.
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>>85104537
But why is it suddenly easy?
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>>85104803
I think its more that early on its just really hard because you tend to get one/twoshot a lot and dont have access to anything good yet.
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>>85104803
I think atlus tried to streamline the game too much. Also with press turn you can kill a lot of stuff before they even get a chance to attack. They fucked up.
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>>85104906
>Also with press turn you can kill a lot of stuff before they even get a chance to attack.

Just like Nocturne
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>>85092862
Your call drawfag Anon.
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>>85104989
Oh well I haven't played that yet. Only strange journey and soul hackers.
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So minotaur is the hardest boss in the game then?
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>>85105696
He's a Wake-Up Call Boss, like Matador from Nocturne.
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>>85102896
>>85103348

Being forced to have zan on my MC is bull

Demon are worthless piece of crap only good at dying anyway
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>>85105987
Except Matador is piss easy to trivialize.
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>>85105696

He's a matador with a better design
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>>85106413
>better design than Matador
Next you tell me Mot wasn't the best boss in any game ever made.
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>>85106637
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
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>>85106413
>Minotaur
>better anything
Matador is one of the classiest motherfucking demon designs in the franchise, almost nothing can compare.
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>>85106316
..Which is the point of the boss

Matador is designed to make you go 'What the fuck how am I supposed to beat this guy... Oh, if I use these buffs/debuffs hes actually super easy. I guess buffs and debuffs are actually good in this game unlike every other JRPG'
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>>85106763
And then they made them suck again in the next game.
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>>85106812
Such is life.
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>>85106724
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How long do ailments last in SMT4?

Can I cure Sick over time by just running around or battling? Or is the only way to get rid of it by curing it directly?
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How the fuck do I get past Seraph's Light Wing Barrier in the Purgatorium?
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>>85108776
See the color of the shield when casted to determine what element can get throught like if you see its bluish then use bufu (If it fails then its the opposite element, i forgot the logic behind the barrier).
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>no money for SMT IV
>suddenly get 30 euros
>friends of the same alignment as me plan to go back to WoW
I bet this was Atlus' doing.

Fuck you, MMOs are fun with friends and WoW is good.
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>>85109559
No fuck you for misusing spoiler tags like a retard.
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>>85109559
>WoW is good.
Maybe a decade ago. Fuck friends, who needs them.
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>>85097848
The only correct choice.
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>>85109831
This shit again?
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>>85110861
What shit?
Stop typing like a meme retard.
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>>85111087
You are a fucking idiot.
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>tfw finally get SMT4
I decided I'll stack Luck on my first run, let's see which path I get when answering truthfully, I usually get either chaos or neutral.
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>>85110109
Sometimes they're useful to have fun in multiplayer games.
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>>85111294
I don't think I ever partied in any MMO I played. Bothering with other people is too tedious.
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>>85111294
Where the hell is that pic from? I know the paper design from somewhere.
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>>85111431
Escape from Bug Island
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>>85111478
Well, maybe not. Thanks anyway.
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>>85110861
Not him but it does get annoying when there are spoiler tags fucking everywhere.

See what I mean?
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So are Fiends mostly the GOAT demons to fuse in 4 like they were in 3?
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>>85111663
The Fiends are, for the most part, high level superbosses. So you wont be using them through the game like in Nocturne
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>>85111663
I don't think fiend were so overpowered as Daisoujou was in 3 in any game Trumpeter was pretty good in P3/4 though
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>>85111651
Sometimes they are amusing, but it's true a lot of people have been using them way too much "lately".
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>tfw jack frost used mabufudyne outside
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>>85111663
Check them out yourself:
http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/Fiend

If I remember correctly Matador in III was good for when you first got him, Dekaja, Focus and 19 agi Taunt abuse for cheesing randoms and all that good stuff but he couldn't really keep up with stuff 8 levels above him, Daisojou is amazing for reasons I'm still incapable of comprehending, Biker was meh, White and Red Rider made for a nice pair, together they have access to Dekaja+Dekunda, 3/4 elemental coverage, enough slots for support skills like Debilitate and amazing resistances, White Rider insta-gibs shit with his Expel Bow too, Black Rider is a pretty good caster, Pale Rider is Black Rider but worse edition, mama Harlot is fantastic and the Trumpeter is pretty gimmicky but still good depending on how you build him, Dante is great for anything that's not Lucy.
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>>85112036
He used elwind outside for me
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>>85112128
he also used that where I live
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>>85112128
>elwind
Fuck, I meant Mazandyne. I've been playing too much fire emblems
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>>85112036
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>>85112221
>>85112175
>>85112128
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>>85112273
>gonna
jack youve already done it
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>Not having a pastebin for Shilliconera links
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So I'm playing Desu1 and trying the Lucifer battle. His first wave of Megidoladyne wiped out my entire party. Do I really have to grind to stand a chance?
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>>85112684
He's the hardest boss in the entire game, so yes.
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God IV was hard as fuck until you can fuse, my demons were constantly getting one shotted

The Minotaur wasn't that hard though, even with Walter fucking everything up
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>finally reach a shop with better armour than White Samurai
>costs 7k macca for one bit
>only have 10k macca

Why is everything so expensive in the post-apocalypse?
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>>85111232
Holy shit the tutorials.
And they say P4 is easy to pick up, that game has shit all for tutorials compared to this game
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>Minotaur says that shit he says just before he dies
>fuck yeah beat the guy on my first try
>suddenly MOST UNFORTUNATE FOR YOU
>smirk
>labrys
>crits two of my demons
>all of them die
>kills me in his next turn


I'm all for difficulty but I really feel like Atlus should have made it impossible for Walter to join you in this fight, it's annoying to get punished for the AI fucking up
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>>85113241
Well thats the POWER OF FRIENDSHIP!
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>Gu Huo Niao
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>reading some article on smt iv
>it says Atlus is well known for SMT, Persona and Demon Souls
top fucking kek, how fucking stupid do you have to be to mix up a publisher and developer
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Why does Japan hate their own country so much
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>>85113046
You should play the game on hard, my friend.
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>>85113741
>Gaming journalism
>Getting literally anything right
Jokes on you for reading stuff like that anon.
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>>85114691
I was just curious to see what kind of mainstream coverage the game was getting. I should have realised what I was getting into when I saw I saw the site was called Anime News Network
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>>85113046
Desperation.
Demand goes up, supplies go down. And vice versa.
Even in post-apocalyptic times, there's gotta be some commerce going. Even if it IS capitalist as fuck.

>>85113179
On the bright side, helps be a gateway game into MegaTen for others.

>>85113241
>mfw Minotaur's MOST UNFORTUNATE FOR YOU Labrys Strike killing spree happened to me for the first time

>>85113875
Maybe it stems from embedded WWII guilt?
Or maybe that's just Atlus.
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>>85113741
>>Atlus is well known for SMT
You mean that spin-off series of persona?
I don't really like it, it's too hard and the characters are so flat, no way I could empathize with them and that's very important for me.
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>>85114921
>WWII guilt
For getting bombed the shit out of them?
Yeah, those fucking bastards.
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>>85114931
Don't forget you can't even romance the characters or spend some time with them and forge social links. Also, it's just not as wacky and funny as P4.
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>>85115086
I bought SMT IV expecting a hot springs scene and maybe a skiing excursion, instead I got a hardcore dungeon crawler what the fuck atlus why put Shin Megami Tensei in the title if it's got nothing to do with Shin Megami Tensei: Persona
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>>85115241
Isn't it scary that there are people out there who say exactly that?

I actually like the Persona series for what they offer but that shit is just retarded.
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>>85115048
Explains all the ICBMs. In IV and I, and maybe II (don't remember). And the Nuclear Microwaver in DeSu.

>>85115380
Stupid is as stupid does.
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>>85113875
you're misreading this
japanese people don't hate japan
the self-loathing is from foreign influence.

Hugo isn't exactly the most lawful character himself, but the mikado culture is pretty much in line with mainline law, and mainline law is rarely the point of view of a good nihongi
neutral and chaos is where you have people who aren't self-loathing
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>>85115742
*law in spin-offs is usually different, where you don't need yhvh shoving his dick in everything

like raidou2
that's different.
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>>85113241
Better solution. Program the AI not to fuck up so horribly.
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>>85115742
>Law: Foreign powers
>Neutral: Japanese youth
>Chaos: Japanese traditionalists
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>>85115684
momma always told me, stupid is as stupid does
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>>85115742
Yeah, they had to adopt foreign (American), values to get their modern state with all its comforts.
Law in SMT games really represent that well, you give up on something to get a comfortable society.
Some may disagree, but that's why we got chaos.
>>85115684
The EMP in DeSu was not nuclear and most likely wasn't a microwave. They explained why they can't use a neutron bomb in urban locations and microwaves would penetrate buildings even worse than neutrons.
The more you know.
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I gotta be honest about something.

I really, really hate the icon that represents people on the world map in SMT games.

Is it really that hard to have actually people on the map, Atlus?
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Just got 4 (Eurobro) and I'm about 3-4 hours in and I'm still using the base equipment. When do I start getting halfway decent stuff, the shop sells shit.

Also what are some good early game demons to aim for?
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>>85119485
Minimalism is good.
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>>85119543
Not in this case. It feels less like you're wandering through the streets of Tokyo and more like you're on Google Maps and controlling the mouse with a D-pad.
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>>85119615
Dungeons are the only thing that matters.
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>>85119615
If toyko was one big map instead of an overworld map do you think people would forgive smt iv for having shit dungeons?
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>>85119715
Then why didn't they have you just pick your dungeon from a list like Strange Journey?
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>>85119813
I've heard some people describe Tokyo as being one big dungeon.
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>>85119485
>B8
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>>85119485
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>>85120889
>>85122858
How the fuck is that bait?
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Alright /smtg/, I've finished the Law and Chaos paths of SMTIV, and now I'm aiming for the White route for shits and giggles. The question now is, should I reincarnate for the Neutral ending or should I only take certain things with me, like the available compendium demons and whatnot.

I had intended to start again from scratch on Master difficulty with only the Compendium carried over, as a sort of last hurrah before I finish the game completely, but is it really worth it? Just how hard is Master mode?
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>>85123461
Not that hard. Beginning is obviously more difficult, enemies do more damage and everything costs more.
Fiends are hell though, two hits and you're probably dead due to increased damage.
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Hey guys, look at AG site because MACCA BEAM
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>>85123093
eh, are you said anon?

i don't see how it's bait, and i don't see why people are taking the person icons so seriously

atlus can do better, but it's kinda a trivial criticism.
i can respect the opinion, but it's kind of a benign opinion, so nobody should really get worked up about it one way or another
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>>85124130
Oh, Gideon Zhi has released another old, obscure JRPG no one asked for! What a surprise.
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>>85124130
....................................................
Captcha: merchants utiffs
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>>85124130
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>>85124474
Yes, I am that anon.

Really, it just seems so... lazy to have a board game piece instead of, say, little versions of the characters walking around.

Now I want to see sprites of the various SMT protags in NES Dragon Quest style.
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>>85125158
Go back to Persona general.
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>>85125205
Nigga I haven't even played a Persona game in my life.
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>>85124561
Hey fuck you. Lagrange Point is great.
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>>85124130
FUCK NO MY MONEY
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>>85125301
Missing out, man.
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>>85125301
Get out of /smtg/
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>>85125467
>>85125548
Oh I assure you, it's not by choice.

I can't find copies of them in my neck of the woods and I doubt my PC could emulate.
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>>85125823
You could play the PS1 versions of P2.
They have the icons though
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>>85125823
>doubt my PC could emulate
So you didn't even try? Fuck off, faggot. Really.
Also I'm sure even a toaster can emulate PS1 games.
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>>85126243
>You could play the PS1 versions of P2.
Well I guess I could
>They have the icons though
FUCK THAT.
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About to test something I read:
Black Frost has special dialogue if you say Yes to recruiting him in Nocturne when you have...
a) A full stock of demons
b) When you already have a Black Frost in your stock
I'll post what he says here; not gonna bother taking the pictures and posting them here, sorry.
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>>85126547
Post the pics, you hee-ho.
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>>85125158
eh, don't get hung up about it,
let it go, it's probably never going to change.

ignore the hecklers too, no idea what their deal is.

and ignore the hecklers.
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>>85119880
Because that shit was lame as fuck and made it feel like the sectors were just department stores
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>>85128359
One of them was though.
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SMT4 is number one in rankings on the EU eshop even above smash bros
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>>85130595
>even above smash bros
For real?
That's bananas
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>>85130595
>>85130928
The price probably helps. Not often that a new release comes with such a low price tag.

Really wish Atlus would fucking sort out their EU distribution
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>>85130928
Smash is number 2, its for digital downloads only obviously.
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>>85130595
Nice! Maybe this will make Atlus aware of the European market so stupid shit like this won't happen every release.
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> This Minotaur fight.

THIS IS COOL AS HELL.
IT HAS SOME SWEET MUSIC AND HE TALKS TO YOU MID-FIGHT AND SEEMS LIKE A COOL DUDE.
I like this game.
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>>85133008
>AND HE TALKS TO YOU MID-FIGHT
This is my favorite new thing in SMT IV. Really makes boss battles cooler.
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>>85133008
I liked that bosses talked to you. Responses affecting the course of the battle is awesome. Makes you feel the alignment choices have more "oomph" outside of plot decisions (slight spoiler? maybe).
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>>85133208

I just beat him on my first try though.
He's the casual filter right? I used buffs and so on so ezboss.
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>>85133208
Do the mid battle replies alter your aligment?
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>>85133463
No, they just can give you or the enemy an advantage depending on the answer.
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>>85133463
They don't alter it, but later on after the lock, if you don't choose the option that fits your alignment, you get called out on it.
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>>85133008
Just wait for that feature to bite you in the ass when you think that you picked the right dialogue choice but it was counter-intuitive as hell.
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>>85131224
>inb4 they do the same thing again just to be safe
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>>85133439
Yeah, him and the next boss.

The rest of the game after that is easy as hell until way later though.
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>>85133463
No, but I think the Tenkai and Pluto fight (later bosses) has alignment questions.
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Has anyone attempted a no App run?
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How do I fuse dwarf in SMT4? I've been recruiting everything but he just doesn't show up.
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>>85134761
Of SJ? Not a chance.
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>>85134761
You're forced to buy apps though.
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>>85133208
>new thing
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>>85133783

I found David far harder than the Minotaur.
Even when I did beat him it was close as hell and I was poisoned with close to no health.

>>85135017
You can't talk back to that fag.
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>>85134927
>>85134928
In 4 and obviously minus the ones you are forced to buy.
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>>85135017
Best thing to come out of Persona 3.
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>>85134818
http://erikku.github.io/smt4tool/

>>85135106
For some reason that entire quest was incredibly fucking hard for me, no idea why.
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>>85135017
There weren't any dialogue choices. I don't think you understood the point of it.
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>>85135139
Agreed.
This is from Lesser Drawings.
Please curb your whining about"tumblr in the filename".
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>>85135139
I rather like these guys, shame Thantos was garbage pre P3P and even there you had to use skill cards to make his skill set any good.
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Hey, /smtg/. I saw the sale on the shop, and I've been sort of interested in SMT/Persona for a while, but never got into the series. I read the chart, but I'd like to start with a handheld. Which one would be best?
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>>85097972
I decided early on that since this game has a ridiculous amount of text (and I'm still learning, myself), I won't be translating it entirely. These pastebins are translations of a brief summary that a Japanese player wrote from their playthrough, with some added bits and context since I'm translating it as I play through myself. I translate some extra in-game stuff sometimes either here or on Twitter but, yeah, def not an LP or anything.

As for PC98, the Windows version doesn't work reliably for me, and I prefer this one anyway.
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>>85137093
4 is probably the best starting point now. Give you everything the series is known for and it will ease you into the mechanics.
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>>85135309
Thanks, now I can keep my OCD in check for special fusions
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Why do people say Persona is a SMT spin-off? That's wrong as fuck.
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>>85137161
but what game is it
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>>85137838
Nice bait
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>>85137971
Giten.
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>>85137838
You know what's wrong too?
you'reface
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>>85137838
Eat a bag of dicks
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>>85138219
Isnt that the one with real time battles
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>>85138519
Could you please at least try to get into interpunctuation?
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>>85138519
Yep.
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> Given the choice to name the Mikado terminal.

I have not felt such a strong urge to be childish since naming the rival in the original pokemon games.
I don't know why, I never name plot important things silly names but this terminal can't be a huge deal.
Should I just leave it as Mikado since it is my first run?
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>>85138649
Is it actually good?
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>>85138751
Call it shithole.
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>>85138519
Is the one with Gore and porn.
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>>85138751
Name it the MEME Terminal
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>>85138908
Me Eastern Mikado Emperor? Sounds great, I second this.
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>>85137838
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>>85097207
haven't read these generals in a while, do you have a link to your other pastebins? been playing through giten but my japanese isn't great
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>getting to the first terminal in SMT4
The way the story is presented so far is pretty awesome.
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>>85138753
Not that anon but I like it.
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>shin megami tensei
>no shin megami actually tenseis
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Any early game source of Makakaja in Nocturne that isn't Sudama?
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>>85139823
>What is Sophia, Mem Aleph, Goddess of Tokyo, Ishtar, Lady Danu, Amaterasu
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>>85139905
Will O' Wisp
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>>85138753
I enjoy it, yes. As far as I can tell, it gets its bad rep because of the sexual and gorey content, but story-wise it isn't all that different from your average pre-90s SMT. The cast and NPCs are one of its shining points.

>>85139164
The first pastebin I posted started a few hours into the game since I wasn't keeping organized track before that point, but gimme a few minutes and I'll link it.
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>>85138908
>not doge terminal or dongers terminal
Step it up.
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>>85140267
Thanks.
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Is there a single game where Chaos endings aren't the best?
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>>85140023
>>85139823
>Izanami, Nyx
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>>85139164
>>85140579
http://pastebin.com/QvsUP1Cz
Here you go. If you're not that far in yet and need anything, feel free to ask, etc.
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just a reminder, a lot of smt4 info is in the links in the OP.

you can still ask, and someone will probably answer, which is fine,
but it's a bit more efficient on your end to check out some of the pastebins first, so you don't get needlessly frustrated if nobody gives you a decent response.

it's not a new game, most of the meaningful info has been well documented

enjoy yourselves, regardless.

ps. repeating this incase people missed it, demons are profoundly less likely to join you if you're accommodating to everything they ask. if you say no to something, luck notwithstanding, they're more likely to let up and join you.
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>>85138035
>>85138312
>>85138434
>>85139030
Isn't it technically a Megami Tensei spinoff? Megami Ibunroku
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>>85141979
yeah.. i'm not sure what's with these people.
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>>85141979
With that logic it wouldn't be a tensei at all because, like you said, ibunroku.
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SMT4 is fun as fuck! Been playing for 13 hours today, the game gets what made those oldschool megaten great while also providing tight gameplay mechanics of the modern era.

>People say Minotaur and Medusa are the only challenging bosses in the game
>Had no trouble with them
>David and Grendel give me a hard time.
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>>85143138
>David
Holy fuck, this. People say it was an easy boss but his blight literally ripped through my team.
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>>85145220
>>85143138
>>85135106
>>85135309

David confirmed harder than Minotaur
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This is amazing /smtg/.
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>>85143138
Fucking love the DDS Asura designs.
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>>85145439
I always forget that minigame exists.
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>>85145439
Yes it is, i even left a save just to replay it.
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>>85145320
David is a higher level than Minotuar iirc
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In SMTIV, should I specialize in one attack stat, or split my points between all three?
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>>85147053
Distribute it to Magic, Agility, Dex, and Luck. Fuck Strength
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>>85147053
Spliting is for complete fags. Go either 3 dex or 3 mag, then 1 Agi and 1 Luck.

Strength is useless, only affects normal attacks and dex gives way more of a boost to phys damage skills
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>>85147053
Do what ever you want but put no points in strength.
Its useless. Dex does the same thing but better
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>>85147304
>>85147372
>>85147425
I wish I would have known this before I was making a Strength Character.
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>>85147821
What level are you maybe there is time to salvage it
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>>85147821
Now that I look at it, why the hell isn't that in the pastebin? It really should say how useless str is.

>>85147372
I still disagree with giving magic builds luck.
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>>85147964
>>85147989
No, this is a different anon, and this was my first playthrough.
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> Trying to recruit Hua Po.

I have NEVER had a demon be so resistant to every fucking option ever.
FUCK.
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I had no idea there were so many yuros in this thread

Explains all the shitposting at nighttime
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>>85148417
I had to talk to Leanan Sidhe about 5 times before she joined me. Half of my party died in the process.
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How many skill slots and demon slots should I buy the apps for early on? (like 5 hours in)
Atm im saving up for the hp regen one (have mana) but not sure what to aim for after that
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>>85149948
I buy all the skill slots
I've never bought all the demon slots
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>>85150580
this pretty much

all skill slots are something you want ASAP
but extra demon storage is something you don't need to max. it's interesting, but the automated fusing from compendium demons thing takes some pressure off of you to be paranoid about your demons on-hand
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>>85148660
you should try the aus hours, it's worse
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>Going through 4th Kalpa
>2nd Playthrough
>Find Shady Broker
>"A demon that wields an assortment of attack spells, plus a charming and capable companion!"
>50K Macca
>Have 69K Macca
>Buy it
>tfw it's a fucking Mothman with all the Ma-Dynes, Ma-ons, Megidolaon, and Mana Refill
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>>85154749
Most of those broker demons are great fusion fodder.
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SMT x Fire Emblem when
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>>85143138
>>85145220
Well, David isn't an obligatory boss. I guess most people just leave him for later and return overleved to easily crush him.
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>>85155876

When Atlus finishes milking Persona. Never
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Is there a site where I can see all SMT4 sprites?
I'm very interested.
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Order's patch freezes every time I try to fuse or when I get into a terminal, I'm using shitty ZSNES cause I have a toaster but what's an emulator that gives no problems with SMT? particularly the Raidou dude that made a wlakthrough in yt even shows the fusion sequence.
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>>85155412
Well this is BS.
>Encounter Chimera x 2 + Decarabia x 1
>Doing all right
>Take out Decarabia first
>DemiFiend health at 200ish
>1 Chimera Kamikazes, Endure kicks in
>Other Chimera lands a crit Iron Claw, while I'm at 1 HP
I fucking hate Chimeras. Never fucking dying easily, plus high damage output, plus show up in twos AT LEAST.
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>>85157516
You playing on Hard mode? If so you should get used to it. My usual setup once I'm 50+ is to have the fastest demon I have use Taunt while everything else spams group spells/physicals, it usually works, MP isn't a problem because everything has Mana Refill.
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>>85157725
Normal.
Oh well, done for tonight anyways.

I keep walking around, and none of my Mana Refill demons ever regain any mana, whether they're in my party OR stock. Dunno if it's the same with Life Refill.
I gotta learn to use Taunt more often, works wonders on the Burial Chamber bosses from what I heard, along with Hades Blast. I already used Gaea Rage last playthrough, want to use Hades Blast now. Deathbound is overrated and overused anyways. Still gonna use Deadly Fury because of crits and badass animation.
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>>85158040
Try Mana Aid. Love Surt, Fire Boost+Pierce+Attack All+Focus is some serious shit.
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I feel like going straight into Nocturne from SMT1 and 2 was a bad idea. I'm having a hard time getting into it. Partly I think because battles feel like they take so much longer, and the whole skill carry over thing during fusion makes me spend a bit more time deciding what to fuse and the best way to get good skills carried over.

I should've taken a break and done Persona or something.
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>>85158565
Will try that because I'm going for TDE and 100% compendium, which will take FOREVER.

>>85158806
You can always give Nocturne a break and go to Persona to relax and get used to the fusion mechanics, then come back to Nocturne.
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>>85158806
>battles
>taking longer

no

nocturne is speedy as fuck
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Canzah here with small update for those interested in SMT4 undub.
I finally have the necessary tools to repack 3DS RomFS partition, meaning I can now repack the undub into a rom.
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Still no estimate on the new release date for If... translation?
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Fuck my life, David is such a stupid RNG fight in 4
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>>85159048
You basicly autobattle every random encounter from very early on in SMT1/2 thanks to guns being absurd.
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>>85159131
Are there even working 3DS flashcarts yet?
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>>85159354
Do you live under a rock?
You don't even need a flashcart as of today, a full CFW is out.
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>>85158806
That's only early game when all your demons are complete shit, around level 13 staple spells like War Cry(Shiisa) and Fog Breath(Inugami) start appearing, hunting down all the buffs is a pain in the ass but it's worth it. Also, a good chunk of the early game demons can evolve so you can just stick with your Inugami/Nozuchi/Nekomata/Momomunfu for a while longer, level 25 is when the good stuff starts with guys like Oni. Level 50 Nocturne is pretty fast and level 80 Nocturne is Hades Blast x3 spam every fight since all your demons are going to have Victory Cry.
>>85158926
Note that you can just give a Abbadon the same skillset+Hades Blast and upgrade him into Surt to fix Surt's weakness to Ice since Abbadon gets Ice Drain. Same with Mot since Surt gets Elec Drain.
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>>85159390
I really haven't been following 3DS homebrew scene at all. Will look into it now though.
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>>85159530
http://gbatemp.net/forums/3ds-hacking-homebrew.201/
Keep an eye out here, a lot has happened today.
Basically what happened today is as big as Geohot's PS3 jailbreaking.
3DS scene will explode in coming days.
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>>85157372
snes9x is good. Not fully accurate like higan but it'll be able to play smt for sure.
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>>85159696
I'm probably fucked anyway since my 3DS is on one of the more recent OFWs. I'll still follow the developments though. Nice to see there's some real progress.
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Playing p1 for the first time, how to stats? Is max dex (from the pastebin) just the best, or are there other good builds?
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>>85159835
If you're on 7.x or 8.x you are not fucked at all, since 7.x keys leaked today as well, meaning native exploits for up to 8.x
If you're on 9.x, you're gonna have to wait for a newer solution though.
Either way won't be long now until everyone can enjoy solid 3DS piracy, today's progress is a massive milestone.
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>>85157372
Orden's patch or not, SNES SMTs do not get along with ZSNES.
Snes9x doesn't even need a better computer than ZSNES nowadays.
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>>85159843
Pump DEX.
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>>85159949
Yeah I'm on a 9.x at the moment. Now that I know there's been that kind of progress I'll just make sure not to update anymore. I wish I had paid more attention to what was going on in the scene, I probably wouldn't have updated past 7.x or 8.x if I did. Thanks though.

Now back to more Nocturne or Souless Army which is tempting me to check it out and I'll stop derailing the thread.
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>>85112118
>IV's Beelzebub
Why can't you just roll over and die like you did for me in DeSu?
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>>85159696
So what topic talks about this new breakthrought in the 3DS hacking scene?
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>>85161145
3ds CFW-CIA Installer
3DS_CTR_Decryptor-VOiD
3DS 7.x keys released
Those 3 for starters, now let's not discuss offtopic anymore. You can research rest by yourself.
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>>85161305
kay thanks.
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>>85130928
Nobody buys smash digitally.
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What debuffs other than Debilitate are worth using end-game in Nocturne?
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>>85161665
Debilitate x4 is all you need if you can get them off quickly enough.

There's always Taunt + Reflect passives/tetra/makarakarn for the novelty of making a demon reflect itself to death
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>>85161890
Alright, thanks.
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I love you /smtg/
Please accept my shameful replica.
I'm trying to learn.
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>>85162171
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Shijima best reason.
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>>85162361
Nope thats Musubi.
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>>85162494
I can't disagree.
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>>85162361

I'm legitimately not sure whether all the autists here who started saying they like musubi in the last month are trolling, and trying to parody beadman, or legitimately are that autistic.
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>>85162494
But anon, everyone becoming one is great.
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>>85162628
I haven't been around for the past few months, but I guess I am that autistic.
And depressed.
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>>85162361
All the reasons are shit, I'd rather go with Neuter, Demon or True Demon end.
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>>85162717
But in Musubi everyone becomes THE ONE!

>>85162628
>Everyone is autistic if they dont side for my reason.

Stay mad.
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>>85162892
Wouldn't that be lonely?
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I don't even really want to play it anymore. I just want to know the plot.
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>>85163001
I dunno. Is YHVH lonely?
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>>85162892

No, everyone is autistic if they think living by themself forever would be anything but shit, and justify why making automotons that vaguely act sentient is a valid replacement for interaction with anyone else. This is literally a step more autistic than the people who can't interact with real people and so just want a $20,000 "realistic" sex-doll instead. Eventually you just realize you're still masturbating, but in a more expensive way.
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>>85163084
Yes, and frustated, very frustated.
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>>85163084

Probably. But unlike yhvh, you wouldn't be presiding over a world of real entities. At best you'd make toys you convince yourself are real before crying yourself to sleep.
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>>85163001
No thats when you create your own human/whatever.

Isamu wanted to be alone but his reason is about being the God of your own world and do whatever you want. ie being a YHVH lite.

>>85163096
Thats Isamu though, his reason allows you to do whatever you want in your world as a God.
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>>85162829

Then why not wish for a world like that of strange journey, where your depression is overwritten by happiness, and you can live in happiness forever? In musubi you'd just be even more depressed.
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>>85163346
Would that mean that I can create something and then fuse with it to the point I lost my own conciosness as a God?
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>>85163346

I hate to break it to you, but in musubi the core staple is solitude. "being a god" is a rethorical statement about how no one would be impeding you since no one is there, not what the actual reason is about. You can't create actually sentient entities. The game was pretty clear that you'd never interact with any other living thing again.
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>>85163434
Misery and frustration are freedom, hapiness is cancer.
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Where do you go after having breakfast with Walter and Jonathan by the lake? I guess I'm supposed to be finding this Black Samurai guy, but it seems like I've looked all over and not been able to find him.
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>>85163518
I dont know it seems to work with humans and demons so i guess you would get the upperhand since you are a half God/Human.

>>85163651
Really? Were did it say that?
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>>85163434
I do not with for happiness. I cannot be happy, anon.
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>>85162171
Looks adorable, well done.
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>>85162171
I-I like it
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>>85163824

Have you even played nocturne? The entire staple of musubi is perpetual solitude. Reenforced by any cut-scene it is mentioned in. Are you telling me you don't know what solitude means? Because its a really bad stretch to say that what it says is apparently totally unrelated to what it secretly means. When you talk to isamu he talks about hating people and living by himself. Not becoming a god and watching over other people. You straight up made that part up.
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>>85164180
>>85164202
This is literally my second day drawing. I guess it's more like doodling, though, huh?
But this is fun. I guess I'll keep doodling some more.
I won't ask you guys for requests because I can't do anything yet and I doubt you'd want anything like this. The first Shuvuu was a copypaste from another picture and it's generic as fuck.
But I'm glad you like it, even if it's nothing.
Sorry for blogging.
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>>85163794

Sleep in the barracks
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>>85119494
Go into the dlc bit of the store and download the white samurai armour
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When
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>>85164806
You should draw more, you're better than me.
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>Guy wants LED light bulb
>Guy gives me LED light bulb as reward for quest
>Immediately give it back to him
Why
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>>85164324
No did YOU played Nocturne? Isamu created his reason as for people to create the world THEY desired. Isamu wanted his world just for him but that doesnt mean he is forcing any mindset to everyone else.
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The motiff is them being you the center of your world but thats is different for many people. People can creat/shape the world as THEY desire.

As you can see in the ending of Musubi.
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>>85165516

Are you trolling? I honestly can't tell whether you're this stupid. Create world doesn't automatically mean create people. When you meet kagutsuchi he says you want a world of solitude. Not to become a god of your own world. You are clearly agreeing with isamu's desire for everyone to be by themself. A thing that wouldn't exist if you know, everyone loved on worlds together the same way as regular, except that the gods of their world were all just humans from one random world.

Solitude is said tons of times. Saying you can create people was said 0. Yes, you get to shape your world, because the benefit of being by yourself is that you get to do what you want. Which wouldn't be the case if the majority of people were just people who were given bodies by the few who arbitrarily happen to be born as the gods.
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Is Strange Journey connected to any other games at all? Trying to decide what to play next, and I'm leaning towards SJ because I want something portable, but I've yet to play Nocturne and have seen a few people say it's connected to it somehow.
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>>85164324

The world will be whatever YOU wish for it, Isamu gives you total freedom. He wont impose anything on you because the world is yours to shape as the God.
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Played SMT 4 it was the jrpg that I always wanted, but was to easy, because on Normal difficulty .
Playing Nocturne on Hard. Feeling related to the Demon. It´s so hardcore but I loving it.
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>>85164806
Fuck that shit. Keep drawing, they're nice. Not extremely good, mind you, but charming and well-drawn regardless.

Good shit.
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>>85165903
It seems the part of being a God is lost on you. As you can see in the ending Hitoshura can make things like the sun comes whenever he wants and in the end you can see him creating a city. WHY THE FUCK DO YOU THINK HE WOULD DO THAT?

The world of solitude was just a desire of Isamu, the world is your to shape, the ending clearly explained.

You are a God, you impose what will or not be in your world.
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>>85165997
Law in one hand.
Chaos in the other.
And that smirk on his face just makes it sweeter. Never noticed he had a smirk on in that picture. Now that I'm seeing it really up close, it makes sense.
Thanks for posting this Anon.
Glad you enjoy Hard Mode you masochist.
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>>85165997
I love how lewd Angel is
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>>85166314

That's the same graphic used in every ending. He's used to living in a city. Presumably he would start with recreating his old home, and then decide what he wants to change after.

I'm still waiting for a single shred of evidence that even remotely implies other real people would exist there. So far you've provided zero. Rethoric about being a god since there's no one to interfere with you is a point against you, no matter how much you want to spin it otherwise. The fact that every single musubi character talked about how great it would be that no one could interfere with anyone again makes it obvious that real people can't be created. Unless every single character is so retarded that they didn't even try thinking about it.

>>85166513

Actually, technically in nocturne both of those demons are on the same side for some reason. The oni is from the mantra who are the ones who end up becoming yosuga when the angels take over their abandoned base and turn it blue. The few remaining oni climb the tower and swear loyalty to chiaki.
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>Recruiting some demon in SMT IV
>Claims he shouldn't talk to humans and asks who I am
>Tell him I am the protagonist
>demon instantly joins the group
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>>85166719
You are projecting your own disgusting perversions onto a pure entity. You are Filth.
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>>85166729
>Presumably.
Not factual isnt it? You havent really suplied anything of your argument of no humans allowed because solitude its not only a measure of wether there are people or not, you can be with many people and still be alone or left out (Like Isamu was).

As i said and posted in those whatever you wish for your world it will just happen. Demons opinion doesnt matter because they just share Isamu POV.
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So what did you name your Mikado Terminal?

I named mine Amala

Original I know
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For me is the Shin Megami Tensei Franchise the Neon Genesis Evangelion of the mecha gerne. It was just something completly new.
SMT is just so much more than other jrpgs, it´s just fantastic.
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>>85167829
Weiss
I was under the impression that you could name the other terminals and intended to color code them.
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>>85167829
Meme
Ironically of course :^)
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>>85167829
Mikado
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>>85167985
At least you can pretend you named it after the best book in videogames.
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>>85165910
I'm pretty sure most of the SMT games are seperate
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>>85166772
The power of the fourth wall, Anon, can overcome the barrier between human and demon.
Also, my PW Dionysus saved my ass against Ouroboros 2nd Form. He was necessary, ok? Plus, I like using him in every MegaTen I play.
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>>85168742
>Not thinking up convoluted ways each game can be a direct sequel to the one before
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>>85168963
How do you get from II to Nocturne?
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>>85168963
Or you could take the gentleman's choice and blame neutral, no matter how hard you have to reach.
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