/lisg/ - Life is Strange General #544

>>187107005
FUCK YOU KATE. GOOD THING I KILLED YOU A LOT OF TIMES

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BAE > bay

BFFs, Pirates, Wonder Twins, Partners in Time & Crime & Love, Fellow Dorks, GFs, Wives.
OTP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhvZxmgLfNA

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Kate is #1

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>>187106972
Before Episode 5's release:
>Lol Mari's theories're shitty.It's way more than shitty to become true
>Chloe has to die thing doesn't make sense.Don't worry they will come with unpredictable story
>We're gonna learn everything about Max's powers,Rachel and Prescotts even Nathan,spirit animals..
>Jefferson knows about Max's powers
>Nathan,Frank,David or Samuel's gonna save us
>Victoria's with Max,she'll save her
>(After seeing Cemetery scene from leaks) I'm sure it'll be Williams,Rachel's or Kate's grave.
>Rachel's the doe and Butterfly and probably we'll see her in Max's dream
>Blue Jay's Chloe

After Episode 5's release:
>Mari's shitty cliche theory became right
>We visited the SF art gallery for 3 seconds. FOR 3 DAMN SECONDS
>Jefferson became a silly bad guy from Disney
>David came to save us.He's a former-soldier but he can't even fight,just listens teenager's orders. Even he doesn't know she has some time travel powers.
>Victoria's with us in the dark room.Laying there and we can talk her or not.Just it.
>Nathan get killed,Victoria too
>Nathan knew something about the storm but they cut it.
>Warren explained Max's powers(!)(thanks warryn) We found out her power causes/related with Chaos Theory and storm.It's not like we didn't know or something.
>Storm is only coming for Bay because Chloe lives in there but Max's the one who keep changes the time
>Prescotts story erased.Nobody even mention their name.
>Rachel's story fucked too.She isn't or butterfly,bluejay just spiritualdoe
>Spirit animals thing died.Blue Butterfly's storm summoner just it.
>Chloe dies again in one of endings (unpredictable) It gives you a lesson: You shouldn't have used your power.And you shouldn't play this game.Now erase your choices and cry like a bitch.
>The other ending's short but it's less cliché than other.We saved Chloe,storm's hit the town and gone.That's it
>So, once again we got the fact that our ending always will be BAE>Bay

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>>187108491
Not bad, Kate!

>>187107005
>>187107752
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>>187108026
Does some kind of bot post these?

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Max will get it one day (...maybe)

>>187109018
Nope. Just dedicated posters.

>>187109018
No, it's a tradition

>>187104281
>and Chloe also never tried to contact Max in the original timeline.
Assumption

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>>187109018
I always asked myself the same question

>>187105739
To be fair, going for a small town setting after they've already done and established themselves on the international video game market and consciousness with LiS could seem weird to begin with, but it would be a little weirder yet if two of their three major follow-up titles revolved around that same setting again. Weird because they would kind of be competing against each other more directly, especially with a potentially relatively close release schedule? And because the studio would be working on two games with similar settings, yet probably unable for the most part to share resources between the two, seeing as how that would cheapen both products, or at the very least, connect them in a way they absolutely shouldn't want them to be connected (they should be strictly distinct IPs).

Dunno, might not be absurd to think they could release two American-small-town narrative-adventure games in the span of the next year or two, but it kind of feels off to me. Hence this Bandai game has me speculate that LiS2 could very well be a different setting.

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Reminder that this is a thing.

>Bandai Namco has announced a new strategic partnership with Life is Strange developer Dontnod Entertainment, MCV can exclusively reveal. The new partnership will see the creation of a brand-new IP based on a new narrative adventure experience. More details about the game, including platforms, a release date and whether it will be boxed or digital, will be announced in 2018, but Bandai Namco has told us it will take place in a fictional city in the US and include "a fair dose of investigation." It's also been in production since 2016.

https://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/exclusive-bandai-namco-partners-with-dontnod-on-new-narrative-adventure-ip/0186186

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>>187110613

>>187110512
>>187109018
>bot
when this meme will end

>>187110436
As was said last thread: Does anyone really think that if Chloe wrote Max, and Max didn't respond/stopped responding, that Chloe wouldn't mention it? Pay attention to the words spoken in the original, what is said and what is not said.

Unless you can find evidence from the original game that suggests what you're saying, then it likely did not happen.
Maybe BtS will explain it in a consistent way like Max getting a letter and intending to respond to it later but forgetting as time went on or Chloe not sending it to the correct address and so Max never actually got it. Maybe it will do something stupid and claim ambiguity where it does no really apply.

>>187111947
>Does anyone really think that if Chloe wrote Max, and Max didn't respond/stopped responding, that Chloe wouldn't mention it?
one of my biggest fears about BtS, if they tried to add alot of stuff that they didn't even mention or hint about in the first game just for Drama's sake.

>>187111947
>Does anyone really think that if Chloe wrote Max, and Max didn't respond/stopped responding, that Chloe wouldn't mention it?
Yes I can imagine that perfectly well.
Like someone else also said last thread: why would it matter if Max never responded or stopped after a few months? It was years ago.
Conversely I could ask "Does anyone really think if Chloe also never tried to contact Max Max wouldn't bring it up at least once in a conversation or in her own thoughts as a justification for herself?"

>Unless you can find evidence from the original game that suggests what you're saying, then it likely did not happen.
No, this is something that applies to you since you are the one making a claim. I'm not making any claims, to me it could have happened, it could have not. So it's on you to provide evidence that it is in fact the one way you claim it is and not the other.
Protip: Something not being brought up is not the evidence it didn't occur.

>>187111947
The same also applies to those who say
>Rachel cheated on Chloe
No, she didn't because they were not a couple. This is another area where some say it's ambiguous and so any answer can be correct. But they miss that Chloe never used words to describe Rachel as her girlfriend, lover, or even an ex. She never used the word "cheated" when referring to Rachel being with Frank. They excuse that by saying Chloe wouldn't tell Max she was dating a girl, which again there is no proof for.
Chloe is nothing but honest with Max and doesn't hide her feelings about things. She would use those terms if they were appropriate, she does not use them because they are not applicable.

>>187113208
>>187111947
You really need to accept there can be other interpretations both of characters and of events than your own.
I disagree with you on your interpretation of both of these.

>>187113016
It matters because already people are trying to purely blame Max for the five years of silence.

Chloe says all the things she's thinking in the car scene about why she's upset with Max.
She says Max didn't write or call her for five years, Max has been back to Arcadia Bay for a month, Max is back specifically to take classes at Blackwell. Chloe is not forgetful and would mention "Oh hey, I wrote you awhile back. Why didn't you respond?" or "Why did you stop responding?"

And here's an excerpt from Max's diary entry about herself, the very first introduction to Max you get in the game:
>I originally left behind Chloe, my "best friend forever" (at least until I left without talking to her once in five years)
Doesn't seem ambiguous to me. Seems more like Max and Chloe haven't talked since their final day together before Max left. Not once is there a mention of letters that were sent by either of them.

>>187113827
All you have to support your ideas are that things are ambiguous, as if that means you can just fill things in how you want them to be.
The game may not spell everything out clearly but it gives you enough to piece together at least some clues. You're not even using those and just making things up. If you have any real evidence then feel free to post it.

>>187113016
There is no evidence for the lack of such just like there is no evidence for its existence, but the impression of the original heavily implies that there was no correspondence. For me, I cannot imagine a scenario perfectly well where it would not have been brought up that Max never responded to actual attempts from Chloe, let alone stopped responding. "Respond" is never even brought up. They always say "contact".

>What do you say to your best friend after five years of silence? After finding out you saved her life in a bathroom? NOTHING. I feel so lame for not staying in touch… or even text.
"Five years of silence" at the very least means any exchange of letters can't have been going on. And why would Max not mention here that she literally didn't respond to letters from Chloe, not mention the letters anywhere at all? It's just one of many instances where the idea that Chloe had actually reached out seems awfully inconsistent with the choice of words and impression of the conversations.

>>187113827
You need to accept that not everything that is not outright confirmed with direct evidence is ambiguous and can be made out to be anything. I read Rachel's letter to Chloe and hear Chloe say she crushed on Rachel, and that is unambiguous enough already to know that the idea of them being in an established relationship is absurd. And so you think Chloe was searching desperately for her missing girlfriend... while at the same time having romantic pool adventures with Max, in which she literally says "I'm not Rachel's groupie"? Sorry anon, either you have a completely different and ridiculous idea of who Chloe is, or you are delusional. She has no reason to hide this from Max, she in fact opens up about Rachel in the very first hours of them reuniting, and she absolutely would not casually say she's not "Rachel's groupie" to flirtingly respond to Max when she was in fact her actual romantical partner in a committed relationship.

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As Max and Chloe are leaving the ruins of Arcadia Bay behind, there's one more tragic story unfolding
>Alice and Lisa stuck in Max's room, Alice hasn't eaten anything in days, the dorms are destroyed and no one comes looking for them
>"No one's gonna come save us, this is the end, we'll starve to death..."
>Alice...you can survive this and go back to your owner. All you have to do is... all you have to do is eat me."
>"What? No, fuck that. Lisa, you're my number one priority, I'm not eating you!"
>"Alice, think about it... how many times this week did you try to nibble my leafs? I'm a plant, Alice, you're a bunny, maybe it's time I accept my destiny... OUR destiny."
>"Lisa, I can't make this choice!"
>"No Alice, you're the only one who can"

>eat Lisa
https://instaud.io/kVV

>eat your own foot
https://instaud.io/kWb

>>187115469
I don't get the thought path I've been seeing lately from some posters. This isn't meant to be insulting or dismissive to their ideas, but I don't follow the chain of events they propose happened.

>Rachel's father is cheating on his wife and that will play some role in Rachel's character and the prequel's story
Okay. That's within the realms of possibility but I think there will also be more to it than just that.
>Rachel and Chloe become girlfriends.
It's never said by Chloe that's who Rachel was to her, and Rachel's letter/postcard don't suggest that, but I'll give it the benefit of the doubt for this discussion.
>Rachel cheated on Chloe with Frank, who she then cheated on Frank with Jefferson.
So if Rachel was pissed that her father was cheating, why would she cheat on her girlfriend?
>Chloe suspected Rachel and Frank were together and asked Rachel about it.
Why wouldn't Chloe say that was cheating if that's what it was?
>Chloe and Max have all their moments and fall for each other as we see during the game.
The final line of events with this way of thinking is then:
Rachel was pissed at her father for cheating, so she dated and cheated on Chloe (and Frank, and Jefferson), Chloe got pissed that Rachel cheated on her, but Chloe has technically been cheating on Rachel by doing what she has been doing with Max?

Am I just missing something? Or is every character just a two-timing hypocrite?

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Girlfriends selfie!

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As a reminder, Rachel's letter she supposedly never gave Chloe.

So in what reality again is it reasonable that Rachel would tell her girlfriend about a love interest, describe them to her, practically swoon over them, tell her about how they hooked up, how Chloe would want every detail and disapprove of that person as a partner? That's just absurd even if we do assume an open relationship (which in itself is completely ridiculous given Chloe's characterization, and basically outright denied, given her reaction).

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>>187117589
Another fair point. Especially when we all know how possessive Chloe can be.

>>187114252
>It matters because already people are trying to purely blame Max for the five years of silence.
That's what the original game does though. It never tries to blame Chloe for the silence. The blame is always put on Max.

>>187114689
That's not how this works though. It's not a puzzle with one objective interpretation to be deducted. You don't have "evidence" that Chloe never using terms like "girlfriend", "cheated" is a "proof" they were never girlfriends and she didnt consider this cheating. It's just your interpretation that "Chloe is honest with Max so she would call things by the name". Well, I happen to disagree. It's not that Chloe isn't honest, but it's perfectly believable that she wouldn't feel obliged to disclose or want to talk about every detail of her relationships after the 2-3 days she's been with Max. You can see her opening up at times like during the morning after pool trip, but in general Chloe is pretty withdrawn emotionally and not very good at talking about her feelings, taking on the brash exterior instead. So yes it's perfectly believable she wouldn't want to talk details about "mushy shit" like actually being in love right off the bat.

>>187115469
>but the impression of the original heavily implies that there was no correspondence.
Alright then, assuming Max wrote in her journal she "left without talking to her once in five years" then them going with them exchanging some letters might be a small retcon. Though it falls into question if letters can be considered "talking". She could have wrote a snippet of similar quality like the "letter" AU Max wrote to crippled Chloe that you can find on her wall there. I wouldn't necessarily call that "talking".
About the "Chloe sent some letters but got no response", it wouldn't contradict anything though.

>And so you think Chloe was searching desperately for her missing girlfriend... while at the same time having romantic pool adventures with Max, in which she literally says "I'm not Rachel's groupie"?
I mean, you are kinda reading into that scene. Sure the context for us, the viewers could be read as romantic, but nothing inherently romantic happened in it, they were just having some fun at the pool. And what is the "not a Rachel groupie even supposed to prove"? Chloe tells Max she is amazing, to which asks "what about Rachel?". Chloe's response is supposed to express that her talking highly of Rachel doesnt mean she worships her and she can still think for herself.

>>187117589
There is a reason she says "this has to be my secret" in the end and the fact that she felt the need to write a letter about this that she would only give when Chloe wasnt around. Something she wanted to get off her chest really bad but couldn't bring herself to.
I mean the devs said this letter was supposedly about Jefferson and Frank also believed Rachel loved him. What if he was the person she felt she could confide in instead and she wrote him a letter like this that she knew she could never actually give? It doesn't sound as ridiculous then.

6 DAYS

>>187118309
I actually think it's a defeating point against the idea of them being a couple. Even Chloe's characterization and the nature of their relationship entirely aside, that letter screams unrequitted homo-sexual romantical interest. Rachel is telling Chloe about obsessing over and fucking a guy, come on folks.

That said, Deck Nine can show romantical and sexual tensions between them, and yeah, perhaps even a sort of fling. But anything beyond that is just so unreasonably inconsistent with this letter (and many more aspects of the original), that at that point, I'd call them out on making up shit to sell product.

>>187118492
>Chloe is pretty withdrawn emotionally and not very good at talking about her feelings
That's like... completely wrong. She has an armor she shields her highly emotional self with against the general world, yes, but once she is with someone she wants to trust, she spills everything, and is highly emotionally involved. She talks about feeling abandoned and Rachel in the very first moments she was with Max. She is intensely emotional and talks about her feelings a lot, with Max. Rachel specifically is an emotional topic that she gets into more than once. I really can't see where you are seeing the Chloe that would not only be secretive about this but at the same time openly admit to crushing on Rachel, loving her, finding her sexy and such, open up to Max about everything, but also do things such as flirt with and kiss Max, distancing herself from Rachel on numerous occasions.

>>187118492
>That's what the original game does though
Not really. Max didn't throw the blame back at Chloe because she knew it would just get thrown back at her. Perhaps why Chloe also drops the subject quickly.
Max blames herself because she shares part of the blame. She also blames herself for things she played no part in like Kate's situation.

>You don't have "evidence" that Chloe never using terms like "girlfriend", "cheated"
She didn't use those terms in regards to Rachel when they would have definitely fit the situation. That's proof enough. Not everything needs to be explicitly stated to be clearly true. The idea of "Nothing proves it otherwise" has been used to claim some pretty silly things in the past.

>It's just your interpretation that "Chloe is honest with Max so she would call things by the name"
Chloe hates dishonesty, that is definite. What reason does she have to hide a relationship from Max? She tells Max about embarrassing past phases and problems in her life.

>but in general Chloe is pretty withdrawn emotionally and not very good at talking about her feelings
>So yes it's perfectly believable she wouldn't want to talk details about "mushy shit" like actually being in love right off the bat.
She seems pretty open and doesn't hesitate very much to talk about things with Max. To everyone else Chloe is brash and apprehensive but she feels she can trust Max enough to let that down, with that trust comes honesty.
If there was something going on between Chloe and Rachel then it would have been said in no uncertain terms.

>>187119060
>it wouldn't contradict anything though
It would contradict a general impression that I got from the original. It would not directly contradict anything (that I can remember now), but then again, there's a lot of absolutely absurd things one could establish without it directly canonically contradicting anything.

This is not a big issue since it changes nothing about what happened later, and we'll have to wait on D9's specifics on it anyhow. So let's just drop the topic at this disagreement about whether it'd be reasonable.

>nothing inherently romantic happened in it
So basically you want to go on and say nothing was ever inherently romantic between Max and Chloe, even the kisses and stuff, right? Because otherwise, it would be Chloe cheating on Rachel, without qualms, and the argument stands.

Likewise, if you really don't see anything romantical about their pool interaction, let alone anything in their interactions at all, I feel sorry for you.

>And what is the "not a Rachel groupie even supposed to prove"?
That Chloe is not in a commited romantical relationship with her. I don't understand how you cannot see that it is absolutely not reasonable to casually, flirtingly say "I'm not X's groupie" when they are your partner.

>There is a reason she says "this has to be my secret"
It says maybe this has to be my secret [because] you're right. Right about how bad of a partner that guy might be for her. That's not something you tell your girlfriend.

Sorry anon, I really really cannot empathize with you on that one. It seems positiviely delusional to me to read and justify that letter with the idea that they were a couple.

>>187119458
>She talks about feeling abandoned and Rachel in the very first moments she was with Max.
Yes, in that moment she is explaining to Max, and the player, who Rachel was to her. It's important she would give at least a bit of background.


>Rachel specifically is an emotional topic that she gets into more than once.
She mentions her more than once, but aside of mentioning how much fun they had and how she wishes Rachel was here, I never felt she went into detail on their relationship, on the contrary it seemed to me she would always handwave the topic.

>>187120093
>That's proof enough.
Not really.
>Not everything needs to be explicitly stated to be clearly true.
That works in reverse too.
>Chloe hates dishonesty, that is definite. What reason does she have to hide a relationship from Max?
Not elaborating =/= hiding.
Again, they've been together for 3 days. It's not like they are planning a wedding. Chloe isn't obliged to mention how she munched a rug or two in Max's absence.

>>187119458
If I had to make a guess, I'd say Rachel was well aware of how Chloe felt but simply didn't feel the same way. At the same time, Rachel didn't want to hurt her friend and maybe tried to let Chloe down easily, but Chloe couldn't just change her feelings with the flip of a switch. They tried to go back to being friends but since they already possibly took the step of hooking up (or it was proposed at some point), things always had a bit of tension between them. Rachel trying to move past it and Chloe hoping it would happen again and become more.
Rachel's letter shows a trust she had in Chloe with the ability to be that open, but the fear of what could happen if it was sent prevented her delivering it. Even though I don't get why Rachel would be scared, maybe Chloe would be upset but she would realize it's not her place to object. Hell, it would probably even make Chloe suspicious of Jefferson and may have saved Rachel's life.

>>187120431
>It's important she would give at least a bit of background.
So now you are saying this instant, complete, emotional opening-up of Chloe to Max was in there for game purposes, and doesn't build Chloe's characterization? That's ridiculous. Chloe is absolutely honest with Max, emotionally and otherwise, she is emotionally particularly expressive, and even more so regarding Rachel. I really can't see a reason in the narrative nor her character for her not to mention that they had been or let alone still technically were girlfriends.

>I never felt she went into detail on their relationship
She talked about how they slept over at her place, their plans for the future, what Rachel wanted, what she was good at, that Max would have liked her and vice-versa. I soo no secrecy or reason to be secretive at all, and really, if that was an intention, dontnod would have actually written that into the story, used hints and dialogue at times to point at this idea that Chloe is not comfortable revealing this to Max. But they didn't. She is open, in casual settings and dramatically emotional ones alike, and she never says anything even implying they were a couple.

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>a special surprise

>>187120431
In those few days, Chloe tells Max:
>Shad a boytoy phase
>She smokes and drinks
>Nathan drugged and assaulted her
>She owes money to a drug dealer
>Answers negatively to the question of if she ever slept with that drug dealer
>That she and Rachel had plans to run away to LA
>Her darkest fears that no one cares about her and people will always hurt her
Just what about "Oh by the way, Rachel's my girlfriend" crosses the line that it would be something too personal to mention to Max?
Come on, at least use some consistency and logic with this.

>>187120151
>So basically you want to go on and say nothing was ever inherently romantic between Max and Chloe, even the kisses and stuff, right? Because otherwise, it would be Chloe cheating on Rachel, without qualms, and the argument stands.
It's not that at all. There was definitely attraction and chemistry in their interactions throughout the game. And the came was building towards a possibly romantic conclusion. Especially from Max's side. I don't think that they did anything that could be considered "cheating" until the very ending though. And even then you could have interpreted the Bay kiss as a "goodbye you are dying anyway so have this at least"
And about Chloe being in a comitted relationship throughout all of that which would make her a "cheater" as well, it doesn't at all have to be that.
Again, her situation could have mirrored Frank's. They could have had some kind of relationship, she could believe Rachel still loved her, but they could have been taking a "break".

>>187120997
>So now you are saying this instant, complete, emotional opening-up of Chloe to Max
No I just don't think it means as much as you apparently think it means. Plus, Chloe stutters, talks quickly and in general to me it seems like she feels awkward and wants to be over with it talking about who Rachel was to her and prefers to move on to talking about her disappearance.

>She talked about how they slept over at her place, their plans for the future, what Rachel wanted, what she was good at, that Max would have liked her and vice-versa.
Talking about Rachel and talking about "her and Rachel" are different. Chloe also doesn't straight up tell Max she "loved" her until she shouts that to Frank in an argument and later when they discover her dead. Doesn't mean she wanted to "hide" it from Max.

>>187121445
Half of these even arent related to feelings and most of these are revealed through Max's direct inquiries. Max never asked "so anyway what was Rachel to you exactly?" Maybe she would have gotten an answer. But the only thing that comes close is her making a statement "sounds like you crushed on her" to which Chloe replies "you would have too" handwaving the thing. Even if you want to assume everything between them was strictly one sided, that was not being fully honest already. It was not just a silly crush, she was actually in love with Rachel. (and Max can see it without needing details)

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>Max and Chloe are sitting on the bench and watching the sunset together.
>Chloe thinks this is a nice moment and wraps her arm around Max.
>Max scoots a little closer.
>Chloe looks into Max's eyes.
>They both know what's going to happen and feel the butterflies start.
>They start bringing their faces closer together and closing their eyes.
>Rachel suddenly pops up behind them and in a singsong voice goes "sha la la la. Don't be shy..."
>Their eyes bolt open, Max quickly moves herself away from Chloe.
>Moment ruined.
>Max tries not to laugh, Chloe goes red in the face and curses Rachel.
>Rachel gives a smirk.
>Max suggests they go back to the dorms, watch some movies, and have pizza.
>Chloe says only if Rachel pays.
>The three start walking back to Chloe's truck, Max and Chloe holding hands.
>Chloe leans over and gives Chloe a peck on the lips.
>Rachel catches it out of the corner of her eye and smiles.

>>187122153
>Especially from Max's side
I think the outright-romantical attraction was especially obvious from Chloe's side. Max's was the same tremendous love, but less outright-romantically so, until later on. Which is in-line with Max discovering and understanding things about herself and each other Chloe had already discovered. But I disgress.

>goodbye you are dying anyway so have this at least
So you actually are one of those "Eh, I guess it can be considered romantical" sort of people. It's obviously romantical, and intensely so in a few scenes - especially from Chloe's side, who has no inhibitions about it in the way of "What about Rachel?", which she absolutely would have had had they been a couple.

>They could have had some kind of relationship
This depends entirely on any specifics, which again, we'll have to actually wait for BtS for. I was specifically arguing against the notion they had been in a commited romantical relationship throughout the years, and particularly, that they still had been at the time of Rachel's disappearance.

>Plus, Chloe stutters, talks quickly and in general to me it seems like she feels awkward and wants to be over with it talking about who Rachel was to her
I didn't get this impression at all. I guess we can again agree to disagree, but it doesn't change anything about the fact that Chloe is to Max a very emotional and open person. As >>187121445 argues, I really don't understand what about "Rachel and I were a couple" is so dramatic to you that it would have not only not been mentioned, but actively held in secrecy when things such as "I crushed on Rachel", "she rescued me from boys", "she was sexy", "I loved her", etc. were casually and readily, as well as emotionally and dramatically revealed.

>Doesn't mean she wanted to "hide" it from Max.
She does call her her "angel" at the first opportunity. She doesn't hide that Rachel was special to her from Max.

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Should I buy before the Storm or just watch YouTubers

>>187122153
>No I just don't think it means as much as you apparently think it means.
So you think she is an emotionally withdrawn person and not open to Max? Have we played the same game? Hell, have we seen the same footage of your so-beloved BtS in which Chloe opens up about most of anything in an emotional meltdown to a pissy, stand-offish Rachel on day 1 of them spending time together?

Chloe is not an emotionally withdrawn person, and she talks about her feelings explicitly and openly to people she wants to trust. Her armor with which she shields herself and withdraws is a coping mechanism because her want for trust had been "betrayed". But she is desperate, in need of trust and emotional intimacy, and Max is the perfect person with which she falls back into this immediately. This is a defining aspect of her characterization as well as that of their relationship, that you try to play it down so as to justify the idea that she would have not been comfortable revealing that she and Rachel were a couple is beyond ridiculous.

>>187123694
>So you actually are one of those "Eh, I guess it can be considered romantical" sort of people.
No it's more like I see the 5 days as a beginning of something, not a conclusion of something and the kiss itself is like "i know the girl you loved is dead and all this shit happened and Im traumatized myself and i wish we could heal together but we will never have the chance to, this is the last time i'll see you so I will kiss you now because it's the one and only chance I get"
Which is why unlike some people I'm actually glad Bae doesn't end in a kiss. There's no doubt their relationship could end up romantic, but with all the hurt and trauma they went through during the week I doubt with the knowledge they aren't in any immediate danger they would be in a mood for kissing. But that's by the way

>>187123694
>I really don't understand what about "Rachel and I were a couple" is so dramatic to you that it would have not only not been mentioned, but actively held in secrecy when things such as "I crushed on Rachel", "she rescued me from boys", "she was sexy"
I dunno maybe im projecting on some level but the whole "will talk how much i like someone and crush on them but wont ever admit it's that deep" makes a lot of sense to me.
There's also the fact that from a meta perspective, in general Dontnod crafted the game in a way that it was clearly about romance, but you'd notice how the words "girlfriend, boyfriend, gay, lesbian, "I love you" were never actually used. It was deliberetaly ambiguous enough to make you think something was going on between all these characters, but never outright explicit so people who wanted to not see it could claim they never noticed anything.
So even if the opportunity was right and Chloe wanted to use something like "Rachel and I were a couple" I don't think she would be allowed to.
Just like Max's "I love you" is cut even if you can clearly tell she loves Chloe anyway.

>>187125293
>So you think she is an emotionally withdrawn person and not open to Max?
No, I think there is a difference between breaking down before a person you know you can trust about how you think your life is shit and detailing every little bit of your life to that someone, especially when it comes to "touchy" subjects like "love".

>>187110613
>>187110814
this actually looks like I could be really cool if they learned some lessons on what not to do from LiS

>>187126534
>No it's more like I see the 5 days as a beginning of something, not a conclusion of something
Then we view the game completely differently. I see romance and healing in it, a brilliantly complementary dynamic in their relationship that has them grow throughout and ultimately overcome all obstacles together, a deeply touching sentimenality, love, a meaningfulness and powerfulness, for their characters and the narrative world built around them. Again, I feel sorry that you don't see real romance and the healing and overcoming strength in their story, but think of it as something that could maybe lead into something like that.

I'm also sure we have completely different ideas on what Rachel was to Chloe. At this point, I think it's better to stop this discussion for a fundamental disagreement that goes beyond the indeed relatively benign question of "were Chloe and Rachel at any point couple?" and "did Chloe send Max letters?". Hope we'll have much to talk about once BtS rolls out though.

>but you'd notice how the words "girlfriend, boyfriend, gay, lesbian, "I love you" were never actually used.
Well, some of them were. Boyfriend is. Max talks about love with regards to Chloe in her journal. Chloe outright says she loves Max.

I get where you are coming from, but again, Chloe not mentioning this seems without-reason to me, and furthermore, is just one of those major aspects (like the letter) that just don't at all fit in with the idea of them as a couple.

Would I reject BtS as canon based on that? Nah. Depending on what they do with it, I will call it making shit up (because hey, they actually are, you know), but if it's good and I can dig it, I will even join you in arguing how it could possibly fit in with the original.

>>187110613
>>187110814

actually wish these are leaks for lis2, want to lie to my friend and say it is.

I think it's fairly obvious that the writers didn't want to outright say Chloe had a romantic relationship with Rachel because first of all, it's not necessary to Max and Chloe's story, and second, because that kind of ambiguity is useful in writing. If you explicitly state everything characters are thinking or did in the past, then it's pretty boring for the audience because there's no room to use their imagination to fill in the holes. On the other hand, I think LiS went overboard on leaving things ambiguous in other places. For instance, at the end of the game, Max's "I love you" line should have stayed in and the journal entry about the final choice, "Is this the power of love or friendship?" should have been cut. That's where it's a kind of forced ambiguity that doesn't serve the story. I get that they wanted their oh so precious, "player choice", but that's not how you do it. I hope that BtS will avoid that kind of mistake.

>>187127704
>I see romance and healing in it, a brilliantly complementary dynamic in their relationship that has them grow throughout and ultimately overcome all obstacles together
Well I can see healing in the sense that being with Chloe heals Max's inferiority complex and being with Max heals Chloe's abandonment issues and depression and as such there's no doubt there's a complementary dynamic to their relationship, however as far as "healing from the events of the past week" goes? They could help each other overcome that, eventually, sure, but no way getting over digging up the body of someone you loved or getting over seeing death and destruction all around you and almost dying can be dealt with immediately just because someone is there for you, a kindred soul or not. These girls would probably need years of therapy realistically.

>Max talks about love with regards to Chloe in her journal.
Yeah journal definitely could get away with more than the "spoken" lines. But even then the "She's more than my best friend [...] is it the power of friendship, or love?" ie things straight up explicit that you cant easily rationalize as "gal pals" comes up at the very end. Meanwhile anything too explicit like "I'd do anything just to wake up next to you" they decided against adding. Then there's the fact even the Bay kiss isn't that easy to "get". I saw people who played the game once being surprised year or so later about its existence. So yeah it definitely seems to me that the whole time they were trying to eat their cake and keep it too with the whole "same sex relationships" issue.

>>187129790
>realistically
But it's not a realistical story in that sense, certainly not in the conveying of its ending's sentiments. Rachel, Chloe does overcome symbolically and emotionally in the story. She bears her literal death together with Max, Max holding her through it, Chloe's anger and grief over it later washed away by concern for and loyalty to Max, ultimately concluding with her acceptance that it should not have happened to Rachel but did, and that she and Max belong together, always did. Again, I'm sure we have different ideas on what Rachel is to Chloe and the story overall, what purposes she has had in LiS, but Rachel is one thing Chloe overcomes with and thanks to Max, in multiple senses.

Likewise, the entire abandonment complex, how William and David play into it, and a bunch of other, defining issues of both Max and Chloe are narratively and emotionally, powerfully resolved between them and overcome together. This as an integral narrative purpose of their story. And yes, even the traumas of the week they prevail through and ultimately overcome together. Max literally overcomes her worst nightmares with, for and thanks to Chloe; Chloe prevails over her literal death with and thanks to Max. And the destruction of the town they leave behind finding comfort in each other in the end.

>trying to eat their cake and keep it too
To an extent I'd agree, especially given how they've presented themselves and their game in interviews. But it was more so the "player choice" cake than the "homoromantic" cake. Because you have to be a homophobic dumdum not to see same-sex romanticism in the game. Like, no, that kiss in the Bay ending is not platonic, however much your neckbeard tries to tell you it is (this is not directed at you). Dontnod have gone on record saying they are romantically involved, sport banners and avatars of them making out, retweet explicit fanart. The game is touchingly romantical, a love story, even if some have trouble seeing it.

>>187132603
Yeah I guess it's a matter of interpretation, I generally agree with the core of yours, the difference is you seem to see definites in both the story and character arcs, while I see "promises of good things to come".
I definitely can't imagine them post Bae as already over everything they went through with only sunshine and rainbows ahead.

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Any songs you guys want to hear in bts or just songs that fit the life is strange vibe in general?
Think this one fits it great!~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xg8Ckamh8Gw

>>187124081
Maybe wait for the first episode, watch the episode on youtube and judge it on that?

>>187124081
How do you even get that line, I never got it.

>>187133959
>I definitely can't imagine them post Bae as already over everything they went through with only sunshine and rainbows ahead.
That's not strictly what the sentiment is about. But it is absolutely about the idea that they have fought through, healed from and overcome a lot together, started to overcome and heal from the most terrible things, and can overcome everything, through their love, the strength of their bond. The narrative meaningfulness and powerfulness of their relationship, that literally transcends time, that is more meaningful and powerful than time, death, tragedy, the biggest adversaries and adversities from within and without. It establishes this love and its power and meaning with narrative purpose, as its primary narrative purpose, if you ask me. The notion of yours that it "could maybe lead into something like that" is just flat as fuck and narratively, romantically and emotionally deaf, to me.

But sure, I will have to admit that my reading is a rather specific reading, a specifically romantical reading, and that the question of Rachel and Chloe as a couple plays into my reading in a very specific sense, and that's why I'm interested in that topic of BtS as an "issue" at all. LiS I think did something with her that I've grown to appreciate a lot in the context of a larger narrative that I love, but ultimately, I'm not really all that bothered by whatever BtS can or will do; my understanding of and investment into LiS is largely unaffected by it, and so I can indulge in other people's interpretations and ideas of these characters. I mean, playing BtS is mostly that, indulging in Deck Nine's interpretations and ideas.

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>>187123725
>it's hard for me to ship pricefield

>>187135794
Well I wouldn't call it "flat as fuck" or "emotionally deaf", just a bit more grounded. But that's me not seeing the story as this timeless epic of love that transcends time and space or whatever pretty, flowery language you want to depict is as.
Just a story of two girls with a strong bond put in terrifying circumstances, trying to make some sense out of all the chaos around.

>>187121219
maybe she wil voice Max in the bonus episode?

>>187113208
The last BtS trailer made the whole thing with Rachel look way beyond friendship though

>>187136909
Yeah, again, pretty fundamentally different views. For one thing, I don't think they are merely "put" there, in a sense of something that is around them, foreign to them as that, but that all of it is in a narrative sense pointing back to them, a result and purpose of them, their story, of their bond, love, sprung from and built around that.

I see a lot in a lot of it, and specifically a lot of romantical significance. So while the idea of Chloe and Rachel as a serious couple for instance from a more grounded perspective really shouldn't be an issue at all, it would interfere in a way with my perspective on what the narrative and particularly romantical significance of "Rachel" is, to LiS.

Let's stick to whatever BtS will bring, where then we can keep scuffling over canonical consistency/reasonability and such! As I've said, I'm actually pretty open to take BtS as what it is, wants to be and say, anyway. I actually hope it can really stand to a significant extent on its own legs like that.

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So what's the announcement /lisg/?

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>>187106972

>>187138680
she's live right now and talked about how she don't really ship pricefield, and answered some general questions, but no surprise yet

>>187136632
>>187139269
>don't really ship pricefield

wtf
why she doesn't

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>>187106972

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>>187139269
>don't really ship pricefield

>>187139469
>Why she doesn't choose the flawed non logic choice

>>187139534
Brooke looks ugly asf, no wonder she acts like a bitch

>>187139848
>>187139943
please don't tell me she ships max with the cuck

>>187140472
How is he a cuck, and don't pull that dumbass fact sheet, it doesn't work that way

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>>187140423
It's Kate's sister. Bully.

>>187139469
She said she can only ship Max with who she herself would choose, and Hannah is a straight Christian with a crush on cuteboi Warren.

>>187140559
you're right, he's not a cuck
to get ''cucked'', he must be in a relationship first, which he wasn't

>>187140580
What's her name, Alice junior?

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>>187123032
I do believe Rachel would be a big, obnoxiously and perfectly teasing Pricefield shipper.

pricefieldcucks btfo

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>>187141108
>Hannah is a straight Christian

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>>187143575
What did she announce?

>>187143540
Pricefield is canon regardless of what the VAs says.

>>187134370
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aeETEoNfOg

This song maybe, for something fun, like skating and hanging with Rachel and the skater boys at Blackwell, at dusk, toking, exchanging sexy glances with Rachel and playfully shooting down flirting attempts from the guys. Ending with Chloe walking Rachel back to the dorms alone, where the tensions of the scene beforehand get a chance to grow a bit more serious, but Rachel breaks the spell in some effortlessly dismissive way and they say goodbye and goodnight

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This is Max, an everyday hero.

Say something nice about her!

>>187148057
Stop making threads on /v/

>>187141108
Also a mental case

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>>187148057
She's cuddly and sometimes she kisses my forehead.

>>187148057
Her gallery outfit really is good looking, and she's beautiful.

And her entry did deserve to win.

>>187146084
>waaah waaah Pricefield is canon. Even if the writers and developers say it's not. waaaah waaah waaah

Fuck you, you whiny baby. You're the reason I wish there was a mode where you could play as David and kick the shit out of the libtards that love this game. Chloe deserved to be smacked around. I bet you're all beta bitches like the tranny faggot. Warren triggers you bitches because you realize you're all him.

>>187148057
She's not as quite retarded as her "girlfriend."

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It's okay if you don't ship them, they ship themselves with each other and that's all that matters. Nothing will stop them.
Pricefield FOREVER

>>187149742
>Warren triggers you bitches because you realize you're all him.

nice projecting

>>187148057
She's so much more awesome than she thinks and she brings out the best in people.

>>187150658
Please just ignore it.
I regret people asking the VAs what they think. They hold no more say than any other player and a lot of them didn't even play the game fully. I didn't see her exact comments but Hannah seems to be putting herself in Max's shoes without thinking like Max. So then it's not a question of who Max likes (Which has the obvious answer of Chloe.), it's the question of who does Hannah like? There's a big difference between the VAs and the characters they provide the voices for.
There's no denying Max and Chloe are bet friends but it seem obvious that friendship was always going to become more.

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>>187131654
I LOVE this! They are simply meant for each other. As friends, partners, and more.
It makes me wonder what they will look like a few years into the future.

>>187150658
David would kick that guy's ass for shit talking his stepdaughter.

>We didn't get to see Ryan, David, Joyce, and Vanessa dish out some justice on Jeffershit

>>187143691
I'm not sure, but wasn't it something about a new album? I only briefly listened in, but it sounded like she was still not sure about Farewell and only said it would be cool if she got to work on it or something. Honestly, I wouldn't get my hopes up. Will be even weirder than having Chloe interact with Rachel in a new voice, but oh well.

what was the special announcement?

>>187153749
BtS will only be available to those who saved Chloe in the original.

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Pricefield wedding and honeymoon DLC when?
>A little over five years after the storm
>Chloe asks Max's parents permission to marry their daughter - they immediately approve
>Chloe tells her mother and David of her plan, Joyce gives Chloe the rings that she and William used to wear
>Chloe proposes to Max at their old pirate fort
>Max is so excited that she tackles Chloe and nearly sends them both tumbling out of the treehouse
>They get married and all their family and friends are there
>Officially Mrs. & Mrs. Price-Caulfield
>Honeymoon in NYC

>>187153139
What would Richard do to him?

>>187156446
Haunt the shit out of him whenever she could. Or if she's alive because of some reason, she would lay a beatdown on him as well.

>even the bad think the dumb dyke ship is garbage
Bay ending canon bitches. She gets with warren to get over her platonic friend dying and stays with him foreber

>>187157437
sure buddy whatever makes you sleep better at night

>>187156446
Oh damn. I misread that as Rachel. My bad lol
Richard Marsh may try to beat him too, maybe with a bible, or he would pray for the forgiveness of those who did.

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>>187157437
That's so dull and pathetic that I don't even feel like I'm biting the hook by replying.
Consider this reply one made out of pity.

>>187157827
Really? I imagined he'd castrate Jefferson or burn him at the stake.

>>187158854
Harsh, but not undeserved. Not sure I could see Kate's father being that violent.

William would find a way to make sure Jefferson gets even more misery as well.

Jefferson did nothing wrong.

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>>187161659
Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind

Did everything wrong. You know the scene in Airplane! of everyone waiting to hit that delirious woman? There's going to be a similar line in front of Jefferson's cell.

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>>187162118

>>187163404
Much like Portal 3. Fuck Valve

I don't care about Half-Life 3 at this point now.
Season 2 is all I want.

>>187162118
>>187162251
I hope Richard Marsh sounds like Jim Ross and was commentating that match
>BAH GAWD THAT BROKE HIM IN HALF. THAT MAN IS DEAD.

Be honest with me, are you hyped for Before the Storm?

>>187164815
No

>>187164815
I'm interested in it but want to be cautious

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Sweet dreams.

>>187165542
Sleep tight

>>187164815
I'm more hyped than for any game this year and this is the year of dreams

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>>187139269
>mfw none of the VA's ship pricefield

i know they have no effect on the
character feelings, thoughts and all but kinda ruins it for me, it's just like delivering some lines (which they do a great job at) but with no real motivation and that's it.

>>187169925
Based Nik enjoys some hot lesbo action.

>>187170003
He also thinks Nathan had a crush on Max.

>>187169925
At least none of them are warryncucks.
Hannah used to ship Warren with Max just because he's a ''cute guy'' but when she actually got a chance to play more of the game she got annoyed by him many times.

>>187170204
I think he said Nathan had a crush on Chloe.
which is worse

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>>187171293

>>187171398
Why do people call him based

>>187169925
You're taking this way too personally anon.

>>187171398
>Max Caulfield @max_prescott15
>Max Prescott

Absolutely horrifying thought

Then again not as horrifying as that one tumblrina artist that was so much into Max/Jefferson she created a whole AU series of fanart where they fell in love, had kinky sex, Max got pregnant and eventually birthed a spawn of Satan

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So why is she crying here

>>187173337
Rachel is ugly.
The first game tells you that she's supposed to be a 10/10

>>187171957
wtf is wrong with tumblrshits?

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Also this is the same scene with Chloe having a breakdown at the junkyard as the first gameplay reveal right? But it ends completely different.
There's also that leaked image with Rachel actually swining the bat as opposed to throwing it away angrily.
Don't wanna sound too optimistic but it seems at least when it comes to your treatment of characters having actual consequences beyond a simple change of dialogue the game seems to be doing a better job than the first one.

>>187173442
She's cute in some scenes and looks meh in others, but is probably the best of the new faces. In general the BtS team seems to be unable to model main characters as cute as in the main season. They kinda look like Sims characters, it's a shame.

>>187174137
>She's cute in some scenes and looks meh in others
>They kinda look like Sims characters

also rachel's voice acting in the gamescom trailer was so robotic, i hope it's not the same throughout the season

>>187173337
why she set fire to the tree

>>187176459
She is actually a pyrokinetic, it was an accident

>>187176791
This

>https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12007315/57/I-Know-that-Life-is-Strange
Looks like the author decided to make an epilogue to this story.

>>187175137
Well in my opinion, you could say the same thing about max's voice.
After finishing the game and rewatching it from the first episode, max's voice at the start is shit

>>187173337
>>187173442
Max is way prettier than her IMO

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Since Tobi the cuck, will never release this, then I should leak an alternative I have.

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>10

Been away for a week, no internet access!

*the hype*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lrl3SQmUmUE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbFBVFL7sq8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivoUAjd_Clw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GthjXp_M7Q

>>187186012
Reminder that daughter doesn't like re-sharing her songs in "soundtrack" type.

Who Pricerich here?

>>187188514
Kate and her sisters keep Vicky safe and warm.

Who is ready for the emotion rollercoast ?!?

I've been playing all LiS related songs non-stop !!!

I'm pre-emotionally destroying myself.

>>187147490
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WB4dAdPu_lg
Chloe and Rachel sneak out night, lay on the roof of Rachel's car looking at the stairs in the rustyard.
Rachel smiles and turns to chole "Even if it is a dump, you do get to see the stairs better out here"
Chole turns on her side, "Its good to get away from it all, school... frank... all the shit... but its even better when your here with me"

>>187201172
>chole

That's really cute though, Anon

Amberprice is more canon.

>>187202560
trying to become a better writer so i can eventually write my own novel and get published.
Its on the bucket list.

>>187203604
=kek

>>187203604
the only canon ships are Pricerich and Grahamfield

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https://twitter.com/HannahTelle/status/900832558627381250

Why would she post a twitter message to drive message to her stream, but then not post the link? That's hella dumb.

>>187207516
She did in the next tweet

Less than a week now

We're going to stay Pricefield no matter what, right? Even if BtS veers the community at large toward Amberfield?

>>187201172
>Chloe and Rachel sneak out night, lay on the roof of Rachel's car looking at the stairs in the rustyard.
>Rachel smiles and turns to chole "Even if it is a dump, you do get to see the stairs better out here"
>the stairs
>stairs

Nothing says gay like laying on top of a car with another woman staring at the stairs.

When is before the storm episode 2 coming out?

>>187211096
Little too early to be asking that

>>187211205
No it's not, they're probably working on that right now
>>187211096
December I'm guessing

>>187210787
Obviously.

>>187211096
The devs were saying they're expecting an 8-10 week release cycle for the episodes (they've learned from Season 1's 6-8 week estimates). That puts Episode 2 sometime around earlyish November. So as long as they don't fuck up the schedule much more than Dontnod did with Season 1, we should expect Episode 2 sometime before the end of November.

This makes Episode 3 weird though, because it puts the Christmas holiday period during the Ep2-Ep3 gap. It's not really clear how that will work ... are the second two episodes complete enough that they've factored in a 1-2+ week staff break between the two? Or are they expecting to just eat the holidays and release Episode 3 a few weeks later than expected in mid January?

And on top of that again, it's not clear what the plan is with the bonus episode. Does that release with Ep3, or does that come later again? Hannah is still saying she's heard nothing about it ... but as long as the strike is still going, she can't come back for it anyway ... so we have no idea.

But as always, speculation is bullshit. All we can do is wait and see.

>>187211994
It'll be a sad day when I have to specifically filter for the pairing Max C./Chloe P. when I'm looking for fanfics.

>>187211096
I hope October

>>187213227
Eh, there'll be an influx of Amberprice shippers, especially initially, but the "community at large" will stay what it is. Pricefield is the primary reason why such a long-standing community still exists anyway, especially with regards to the fanfiction community.

>Ep 5 Sacrifice Chloe ending

Game ends with Max alone at the lighthouse

>The very beginning of Ep 1

Max alone at the lighthouse during the storm

Now I've replayed 2 days ago Ep1 and during "nightmare" cutscenes I've seen an element I've missed during my first playthrough, specifically in lasth part of the episode when Max and Chloe are at the lighthouse, in tha last frame of the storm fragment Chloe puts an hand on Max shoulder and Max regain her senses

Now knowing that Max can't travel to future but only rewind time and what she knows it's because she experienced it, are a bit wierd those storm visions, so could be Sacrifice Chloe ending start a time loop somehow linked to the opening cutscene of Episode 1?

>>187210901
>hes never stared at stairs with a girl before
You can just say your a virgin man

Have you guys listened to Hannah's new cover of Obstacles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDrr9C1zVK4

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>tfw you will never get comfy and experience life is strange for the first time ever again

>>187219143
But hey, remember the pros too. You don't have to feel betrayed and pissed off after playing Episode 5 again!

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>>187167964
They're going to make hella awesome parents someday.

>>187220571
Max's parents and Chloe's mother and stepfather would be awesome grandparents as well.
It could really calm down David some and just imagine how thrilled Joyce would be.

>tfw you just finished the game a week ago for the first time and it's still on your mind...
First time I've read fanfiction in my life too. what a rollercoaster. How are these stories more enjoyable to read than any book I've tried?

>>187221335
The characters are awesome and make you really care.

>>187221705
Yeah, it's weird though, the characters are pretty cliché/stereotype, but still it is so enjoyable.
Always have mr. robot-ed all feelings I've ever had and this game opened me up

>>187220353
That is indeed a plus.

>>187222289
They start out as stereotypes because humans can be categorized in stereotypes, but they really aren't. They are complex, authentic characters with complicated and meaningful relationships.

Next Friday we're going to be playing a new Life is Strange game.

That's hella crazy.

>>187215385
That's a point some people have raised before, that things would end up in a timeloop of sorts. One way or another, Max would end up back on the cliff with Chloe.
>1. The idea that the storm will always come, which once it does, Max would surely rush back to save Chloe since she knows it doesn't fix the problem (Not really a point I argue since it's just as bad as those who say "If Chloe lives then she will just kill herself or the storms will follow them")

>2. Max's autopilot should have discovered her power in the same way Max did. After seeing the girl get shot and on the floor, that Max would have a sudden fear (maybe even realize the girl was Chloe) which would lead to her rewinding, jumping back to the classroom and going through the motions of saving the girl. This would mean Max winds up back on the cliff from the moment she left, next to Chloe and watching the storm. The realization that no version of herself can just leave Chloe to such a shitty end. (Obviously this didn't happen in the game but it's what logically *should* have happened)

3. Max just snaps from the depression, loneliness, and guilt. She feels sad and cannot tell anyone why since none of the events she and Chloe experience technically never happened in the Bay Ending. Max sees how much pain Joyce and David, and others, are in. Max kept the photo in that ending so she goes back and saves Chloe. Leaving a note for herself in her diary about Jefferson, Nathan, Rachel, and the storm so they can try to make things a little better. (This is the most likely ending to the Bay Ending)

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>>187224821
Puppy!

>Keep the puppy!

This place is incompatible to me since I am pure Chasefield. Help me assimilate without betraying my shipping beliefs.

>>187228672
Why do you want to be here?

But! BtS is out in a week, there'll be enough new stuff to talk about.

>>187219143
Noooooooo!

>>187228672
At least you're not a bayfag, right?

>>187229745
But those people aren't allowed to even look at this General.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXnjBLCYsXg

Max lost Chloe.

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Max saved Chloe.

>>187228672
Chasefield was pretty big around here while the game was still running. But this place is a shell of its former self now with only a couple of pricefield shippers left.
Kinda feels bad, I hope BtS brings back some of the old anons or some cool fresh blood.

>>187231052
I still can't believe they got Daughter as a main composer for this game.
It's such a perfect match.

>>187231390
Well, the remnants of Pricefield is about to get BTFO when BtS comes out and all that will be left is Amberfield. Whether things here will be better or worse is up in the air.

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>>187231696
>Amberfield

what a plot twist

>>187231696
>Amberfield
I meant, Amberprice. What was I thinking?

Pricefield will never die.

>>187232079
Rachel will, though.

>>187232232
Chloe will, though.

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>>187232079
>>187232232
>>187232437

I can't believe this is gonna be the main discourse here for the next few months.

>>187231696
>>187231390
What the fuck are you talking about? Pricefield have always been a thing on /lisg/ and BtS will not change that.

Rachel was a cheating whore and she never cared about Chloe as much as Max did.

After BtS gets going, every time I see someone posting anything pro-Amberfield, I'm going to post something pro-Pricefield in return.

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Reminder Max & Vic is the best ship.

>>187234994
>cheating whore
How can Rachel be a ''cheating whore'' if she and Chloe weren't a couple in first place?

>>187236730
Even Max x Warren is more ''canon'' than this crackship.

>>187237373
It's about a thousand times better than Warrenfield, though.

I'll be really pissed off if Before the Storm lets Rachel have romantic feelings for Chloe. Chloe is supposed to have feelings for Rachel, Rachel's feelings for Chloe are supposed to be ambiguous. All explicitly established by season 1.

>>187237373
>2017
>Shit talking Maximum Victory

Anon, whats wrong with you?

/lisg/!

Have a pleasant Friday evening.

>>187237636
And to add to that, all we should be given choice in is whether Chloe acts on her feelings.

>>187238365
you too

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I miss them :(

>>187239940
I miss Max.
Chloe is kind of a bitch, I'm buying the deluxe version just for the Max episode.

>>187239940
That's why I'm still here.

>watching coverage of hurricane
>they referred to some town i didnt catch the name of
>talking about people staying behind and not moving out of the path of the storm
>called them 'bayers'

kek

>>187241672
Pottery.

>>187241672
>talking about people staying behind and not moving out of the path of the storm

Maybe they think some girl with travel time powers will sacrifice her best friend to save them.

I think it's funny how the "pottery" is a mutated reference to something George Lucas said in the Plinkett reviews. Neat how far the reach of those reviews has become.

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I saw there was another thread for Arcadia Bay in a place called /v/. It....wasn't nice like it is here.

>>187243159
Meant to link to >>187242712

>>187243246
>going on /v/
>ever

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>>187243159
DONTNOD followed George Lucas's way of writing.

>Episode 5 is so dense, it has so much going on.
>The bathroom is the key to everything.
>The ending is stylistically designed to be that way.

>>187243356
Hey. Board wars are as bad as console wars.

The "gore" tag is applicable to any display of blood, right? It's not reserved for real gore-y stuff?

>>187245143
Honestly, /v/ is the least appropriate place in the world to discuss LiS.

>>187245265
There's gonnabe a nightmare episode where your father's arm gets ripped off

>>187243159
episode 5 deserves a Plinkett review

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What's going to be his role?

>>187237636
she can have romantic feelings for chloe but not want to make it a relationship. Besides, in LiS when Chloe says Rachel was her "angel" she stutters before saying it as if she was going to say something else and she was censoring herself for Max's sake. I think she was going to say "she was my girlfriend" now that I watch that scene again. She probably didn't want to freak Max out though.

>>187247087
Supreme Gentleman

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>>187247087
he looks just like that lad in twin peaks

>>187247518
he looks like a real chad imo

>>187247325
When Chloe was talking to Max about having a crush on Rachel, she said "I don't even know if Rachel felt the same way about me". Even if Rachel has feelings for Chloe, she cannot act on them in any way in BtS.

>>187248047
well prepared to be annoyed then because i'm pretty sure we're getting a kiss

>>187248134
Then fuck Zak Garriss for disregarding explicitly established canon. Actually giving Chloe and Rachel a romantic relationship seems like a lazy retread of the first game. It would be more interesting for their relationship to eventually focus around Chloe having unrequited feelings and seeing how that affects their relationship.

>>187247325
There he goes again, the Deck Nine madman!

It's a little suspicious how defensive you are about this point, thread and again. Have fun telling a deep romantical story which ends up in one of the gals swooning over how she's fucked a guy in a letter to her gal pal! They must have had a really romantically caring relationship that this gal had the gall to tell her gal pal all about how she's head over heels for this new cool guy!

>>187248047
Pretty sure that's not in the game. Maybe you're remembering this from a fanfic. No offense, just saying. It happens.

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Stay safe, Texasfriends

>>187232079
Truth.

>>187246487
I think the whole game would be perfect for an episode of Ross's Game Dungeon but he doesn't play too many new games.

There can be a bit of romantic/sexual tension between Chloe and Rachel, but nothing definitive. Maybe a kiss scene and then Rachel clearly regretting it but trying to not say she did.
Rachel just brushed it off as fun while it was something that meant a lot to Chloe.
At the least, Rachel seemingly didn't outright reject Chloe since Chloe still clearly has hope (but knows it's ultimately misplaced). No way they were in a relationship though, not with the letter Rachel wrote and not with the words and hesitation Chloe used.

>>187249294
I could live with this. In fact,
>Rachel just brushed it off as fun while it was something that meant a lot to Chloe
I really like this.

RACHEL IS A SKINWALKER

>>187249662
There's no denying Chloe had feelings for Rachel and that whatever they did have meant a lot to her, by Chloe's words she pretty much says that Rachel made her realize she was gay. Which I'm not sure was purely done without some kind of physical interaction.
Rachel clearly means a lot to Chloe (To the point she credits Rachel with "saving her", which I think means stopped her from going down a bad path she was on), and Chloe means a lot to Rachel, but they had different ideas of what their future together would be.

I'm curious why Rachel thought they could run away to LA together and not have Chloe's feelings complicate things. Maybe that plan was never really going to happen because Rachel realized what Chloe wanted, but again didn't want to hurt her with a firm rejection. Though I think Chloe would have handled it alright eventually and accepted just being Rachel's friend. She'd prefer that over being lied to to try to spare her from some kind of pain.

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I want to care about Rachel, I really do. Hope BtS can achieve that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mU8RmOos9Yk

>>187250614
is this supposed to be rachel

>>187249037
remembering this fro a fanfic
Wow, I can't believe it, but you're definitely right. Second time I've done it with that quote. I think it's from Better Then.

Anyone from Texas?

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>>187250868
Nope, I just saw that on dA's front page one day and it looked a lil' like Rachel, dreamcatcher necklace and deer horns and all.

>>187250948
I've done similar where I thought after Chloe shots Frank she said something like "How can I say I care about Rachel when I hurt someone that she loves?" turns out it was from a fic. lol
Some of these fic writers can really nail the conversations and feelings of the characters. I've read scenes in some that made me say "I wish that was in the game."

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>>187250614
In the past I had built up my own idea of who Rachel is and it was honestly quite flattering. I saw her as someone who was nice to a lot of people when she didn't really have to be, maybe to improve her own reputation or maybe just because she thought everyone needed a friend, but the end result was the same: she gave people happiness and confidence. I thought that any mistakes or lies she told were out of naive attempts to keep everyone happy and not out of malice. As well as that she didn't try to have a relationship with Chloe because she knew she wouldn't win if and when Max came back.
I know this was a very idolized way of thinking of her and that she probably will have some darker side to her, but I hope I can at least play the prequel and still end up liking her. Hopefully without getting too attached to her to the point that I'm devastated when it's over and I realize I cannot save her.

>>187247087
Judging by how preppy he looks, I'm guessing the head of the Vortex Club during the time. Maybe someone Chloe pisses off or maybe he notices Chloe with Rachel and invites her to a club party.

>You will NEVER be as happy as Max and Chloe are together

>>187253779
Chloe's a cunt and deadweight to society.
Max is better off without her.

>>187253923
You should go visit Texas, I hear it's wonderful this time of year

>>187253779
Them being happy makes me happy and inspires me to try to be more confident in myself

>>187254191
Nice.

>There are people that hated Chloe and let her die, giving validation to every negative belief she held
>These people will play the prequel to see Chloe at her worst and will still say she needed to die
How can someone be so heartless?

Fate can be so cruel. Max needs to learn to accept that. She needs to grow.

>>187251351
Any ones you consider a must read?

>>187255150
The good big ones I'm aware of are Better Then, Small Things, Eternal Return, and Ouroboros.

>>187250948
It's ok, we don't need that line anyway.

I don't know what planet that anon lives on (planet Deck-Nine-Wants-To-Sell-Games, I reckon), but where I come from, you do not tell your partner that you have totally fallen for someone and how obsessed you are with them and how you've fucked them last night... and then also talk about how your partner would give you a "stink eye" for it and "grill you for every detail". Like, just, no. The obvious reality the existence of that letter more than sufficiently-unambiguously establishes is that they were not a couple, that Chloe's feelings were largely unrequited, hell, that Rachel was most likely mostly straight and keeping secrets from Chloe in order not to hurt her - which is in-tone with practically every other thing in the game concerning their relationship.

Now it's obvious that they must have had a caring relationship, and I do believe there must have been romantic or at the very least erotic tensions there, but it was complicated. I can see a scenario similar to what >>187249294 points to, where they've had a drunken make-out session that Rachel more or less brushed off, and hoped Chloe would do the same, for her own sake, but that Chloe got stuck on. I have my reasons as to why Chloe must have never made clear moves on Rachel to confirm anything, but that's not for this post.

>>187250531
Just for the L.A. thing: We know Rachel had made at least one attempt to run off without Chloe. I think it really was this thing that was never going to happen - not for Rachel, but all the more so not for them. For a multitude of (very narratively poignant!) reasons. "Mountains" is all one has to listen to to get an idea of the kind of sentiment this fits into, the futility above all, which is really working into a larger narrative complex of Chloe's characterization and that of her relationship with Rachel, and most importantly, how it contrasts what we got to experience she has with Max.

>>187255150
Ouroboros by Tommorrowheart, Small Things by Aerolumen, Catboiler's two-part fic. Those are ones that were really good but also kept to what could have fit intothe game. Expanding on Max's powers, exploring unresolved plot points, and building on the minor characters.
If you haven't looked, there's a recommendation section in the OP.

>>187255605
To be fair, I don't think we know when Rachel tried to get the trucker to drive her out of town. It may have been before she met Chloe and made those specific plans. Though that wouldn't change that Rachel lied to Chloe about other things. I think Santa Monica Dream was a fitting song for them. About hopes for a bright future they know won't come true.
Chloe wanted to find Rachel because she thought her friend was in danger, but even then I think Chloe knew her plans with Rachel were never going to become reality, for more than one reason. Because she knew Rachel didn't feel the same way back and because she knew deep down Rachel wasn't going to be found alive (Even though she tried to keep hope until the truth was right in front of her)

>>187254759
>can't take responsibility for anything and even blames HER FUCKING DEAD FATHER for everything what's wrong in her life
>does nothing but smoke weed all day long
>steals from the handicapped
>treats her stepdad and her mom like shit for no reason
>murders an innocent man and his dog on his own proprietary
>abuses Max's power and treats her like some puppet

Chloe's a piece of shit, she deserved to die.
She is irredeemable.

>>187256537
Well, I'm not sure the trucker would remember some gal having asked him to drive her out of town years and years back, but fair enough. Even regardless, as you say, we know Rachel had plans with Frank, and certainly with Jefferson. Plans that obviously could hardly have involved Chloe.

I mostly agree with your assessment of the (desperate) hopes for a future she (deep-down) knew wouldn't (couldn't possibly) come true. I go a few steps further or deeper with that, but it works as a more grounded perspective like that too.

>>187256541
Bayest with another of his medleys of ridiculous bullshit, everyone!

How entertaining!

>>187256541
You're either trolling or so hateful towards a character that you were purposely missing everything about her besides the negative.
With an attitude like that, you're irredeemable.

>>187257451
>purposely missing everything about her besides the negative.
The only selfless moment she had in the whole fucking game was at the end she offered her own life to save everybody in the town.

>>187258027
But that's objectively wrong, "anon".

Is Ouroboros just nonsensically, super comfy fluff, or is there some actual drama?

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>>187257426
I wonder just what exactly Chloe meant to Rachel. She clearly meant a lot but Rachel wasn't going to lie to Chloe about loving her back. That would have ruined everything they did have and probably caused irreparable damage. Rachel did have plans of her own to become a model, but maybe she put them, and the plans to leave for LA, on the backburner until she felt she could leave Arcadia Bay without abandoning Chloe (and Frank, and others). Waiting until she felt Chloe was in a better mental state and could see Rachel's departure as a friend leaving to pursue her own goals, and still keep in contact, without it feeling like yet another abandonment. Realistically, that point would come some time after Max's return (But Rachel wouldn't know about that unless she had visions of the future).
It seems like Rachel was going to leave with Jefferson eventually since she saw something attractive in him and since he would have been very capable of helping her achieve her goals. Unfortunately for Rachel, she was unaware of the other side of Jefferson and I think it's likely she was far from the first to make that mistake.

>>187258459
It's fluffy, maybe a little too much so at times, but there is drama. Max and Chloe both have nightmares, Kate's family gives her grief for things, and other characters deal with their pasts and questioning if they deserve to be happy.

>>187257426
Looks like it's some shitter from /v/
I'm glad the trannycunt isn't posting here anymore

>>187258959
While I somewhat agree, there's no need to be that rude about it. Shitposters are bad but reactions like that kept giving them incentive to do it and do it more aggressively.

>>187258459
Personally, I have to read it a-chapter-at-a-time, or two at most, and haven't nearly read all of it either. It's not a favourite of mine (though I do enjoy some of it). The constant puns and innuendo feel parodical after a while. The characters are really rather exaggerated versions of themselves (and of what they are in the fic) in a few respects that are grating to me upon long exposure. I guess I'd would say it is kind of nonsensical in that sense.

>>187258959
Hello, Bayest.

No, I'm afraid the "shitter" that creates /v/ threads (and then talks about them here!) is also you.

>>187259438
What are your favorites?

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>>187259438
>calling me that cunt

Take that back.

I can understand how Ouroboros gets "grating" at times. Maybe I've just become accustomed to it, but I noticed it used to feel way too cheery and fluffy at times but it seems like more recent chapters found a better balance.
If you like the idea of Ouroboros but dislike the length or find it *too* happy then Small Things may be more palatable. A similar concept but much more compact and more drama/action.

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Beautiful blue bae from the Bay

>>187260278
Something I find deeply annoying about Small Things, and about a lot of fanfics in general, is when there are time travel shenanigans that erase Chloe's memory of her and Max's original week together (in Small Things, the gist is that Max goes back to save the town and when she jumps back to Friday, the town is saved and Chloe is still alive, having survived Nathan's shot).

>>187247087
BOYTOY
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>>187261041
God I hope so

>>187261387
why

5 DAYS

>>187260651
That's something a lot of stories have to do due to the nature of Max's powers. Ouroboros avoids it by having Chloe travel back with Max.
The only way to really avoid that is through that way or to just do a purely post-Bae story with no rewinding the week, which very few good ones seem to exist. Best one I've come across is Aftermath, which really focuses with the drama and PTSD aspects Max and Chloe would face after everything. I'd really like to see this one finished.
http://archiveofourown.org/works/7580068

>>187261041
He does not seem like her type and I suspect that that phase was already over before she met Rachel. Rachel was just a confirmation that those things were doing nothing to satisfy what Chloe felt she was missing.

>>187261993
I want to see Chloe get fucked

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>>187263157
Yeah, I tend to find post-bae fics most compelling. There's so much potential in the premise for Max and Chloe overcoming adversity together.

>>187263359
Mark Jefferson and Michel Koch are great guys

>>187263556
nigga don't tell them lies

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>>187263359
Bae > Bay, Pricefield forever, Kate is gr8, Alice is fluffy, delusional Warren fans suck (But Warren himself is alright), Jefferson is a crap photographer and crap teacher, DONTNOD's PR is awful. That should suffice as a crash course. Now go forth and cutepost.

>>187263451
Of course there's tons of potential for seeing them cope, heal, and come to terms with what's happened as they move on to happier futures. It's amazing that there seems to be so little fics that capitalize on the idea of what happens after the storm, at least in a realistic manner. Some are endless fluff (Which can be be fine if that;s what you want), some can be endless misery (Everyone died in the storm, everyone has PTSD, Max and Chloe fight all the time. No thank you), and some are just too short to have any real substance.
Stuff like Aftermath, Migratory Animals, and An Ultraviolet Way seem to cover it the best from what I've seen. Maybe there are others and if so I'd love to read them.
At the end of it, I'm sure everyone has their own ideas for how they handle things after the storm and what the recovery process is like for the characters.

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>>187263359
>Logical bay ending that makes sense

>bay
>logical

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>>187122153
>spoiler
I agree with you in principle, but that's a terrible example. If Casablanca ended with Rick and Sam passionately kissing in the rain you wouldn't hand wave it away as a "goodbye kiss".

>>187129790
>So yeah it definitely seems to me that the whole time they were trying to eat their cake and keep it too with the whole "same sex relationships" issue.
It worked though right? At least as well as it could have. If I had only brought this game for "muh lesbians" I'd still be pretty happy. But there's a good enough story there if you find the gay stuff inconsequential.

>>187259651
>The fellowship are eating themselves
Go ahead, call me a 'trannyfaggot".

Does any /lisg/ poster written fanficion or have any fanfiction ideas they haven't written yet?

>>187259617
Honestly, I'm kind of a sucker for various of the lighter Pricefield AUs, some of which you can find in the fanfic compilation in the OP. Wandering Far and Camp Arcadia to name two longer ones I've enjoyed, and then many of the Pricefield oneshots/series from authors such as hakuun (who deleted their account, but have written a ton, all of which still up on AO3; "Feels Like Destiny" is one of their closer-to-canon works), OpheliaMarina, TippyTypewriter, explosionshark, Growlithe... some majorrager, a little of Recourse's stuff, more recently Alybalybee and ItsaVikingThing... wankernumber9 has a few really nice ones, as well as a (painfully slowly) ongoing one. I did like BetterThen, Eternal Return and One Way Trip, to certain extents. They are without a doubt some of the more well-crafted pieces of literature among them, but I don't really go to fanfiction for lit. Not either really for expansions on my interpretation and appreciation of canon narrative; I go there for the characters above all (meaning Max and Chloe above all), want to see authors capture their spirits and do interesting things with them, in keeping to their natural dynamic that emerges from who they are. Romantically interesting things, first and foremost, but I'm also down for cuddlyfluffycute drivelfics, some dramatic tension and conflict, as well as some of the more melancholical musings, at rare times. Anyway, I don't feel the characters are particularly well-captured in those 3 fics, so.

I've never really had that one stand-out favourite, or at least can't remember any one story where I've felt I've read something that is now intrinsically tied to my LiS-heart. It's hard to embrace fanfiction that way anyway when you have a very specific "fiction" of it all for yourself. But many of them have contributed to my consciousness of and love for it all.

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>>187116996
>why would Rachel cheat if she was upset with her dad for cheating

Women and cheat and that's fine in modern society. Only men need to stay loyal. Remember, this game was written by French cucks.

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>>187264987
This one is by someone from /lisg/
http://archiveofourown.org/works/7741639/chapters/17648473

>>187265086
Not who you're replying to, but that's a pretty extensive list. Unfortunately some authors have some kind of breakdown or drama that makes them delete their accounts, or even their entire stories in the case of Surimistick. Who had some good ones that are now lost. OpheliaMarina's "In A Week We'll Be together" is one of my favorite oneshots. Alybalybee's "I Like You A Whole Latte" is perhaps my favorite AU, Chloe and Max coming together is adorable and matchmaker Rachel is perfect.

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>>187264987
As an idea, I've thought about a pretty sizable chunk of Max's and Chloe's lives until they're around in their 30s. But it's never developed into a full story, just a bunch of posts here.