/fg/ - Falcom General #50

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Is Stahlritter a thing in Zero/Ao, or is it just Duvalie?

>>186440127
The stahlritter are all there in Ao, but they're pretty easy to beat.

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Calvard when?

>>186440127
All three show up to get bullied.

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Hey hey anon. Pshh come closer, i need to you something.

Unhand Crossbell from thy possession, this instant.

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>>186439882
best couple

>>186440324
Crossberru*

>>186440479
Kurosuberu

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>>186440324
Here you go

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>>186437926
Oh yeah anon, I'd been emulating since what, 1999? So I feel your pain to some degree
It actually kind of hurts me to think about the ZSNES netplay nightmare NOT being something everybody knows about anymore
I wouldn't say that, say, ePSXe was so bad around a decade ago, though it had some moments like that good ol' Xenogears freeze it seemed like everyone encountered until it supposedly got patched in recent years

But when I got around to Dawn of Ys I used mednafen and that worked fine
Are kids today too stupid to use mednafen? I don't know and I don't want to think about it, but hopefully a set of clear instructions would make it manageable
It's probably just the dub that would be difficult to find these days, as I don't think it was hosted on all that many sites, but we're in a turboweeb era where everybody hates the English language for little to no reason now
Shame on that front, when Legend of Xanadu's gets released soon I'll probably be the only one using it

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>>186440667
Ehhhhhh, how nice... Being all chummy with her and all that...

>>186440969
That's not how Elie would react.
More cynical, stabbed Lloyd right in heart.

>>186440969
Too bad you aren't popular enough for cs

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>>186441280
You shut your mouth.

>>186440942
>ePSXe was so bad around a decade ago, though it had some moments like that good ol' Xenogears freeze it seemed like everyone encountered until it supposedly got patched in recent years
That's pSXfin for that game (although it would still crash on the occasion)...

...or be a smart person and not play it at all cause the second disc of that game is GARBAGE. I still have no idea why people put Xenogears on a pedestal. FF7, FF9, FFT, and a bunch of other PS1 Square games were eons better. Ah well, I still rolled my eyes at that Grahf reference with Valimar in CS. Nice one, XSeed.

Elie is the most boring fucking girl in existence. And it doesn't help that she looks like a middle-aged woman in official art

>>186441386
>>186440969
Elie posting makes me want to play Zero.
She seems like a cutie.

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>>186441485
Die scum

>>186441557
The only reason to like her is because of her character design. She's by far the least popular SSS member.

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>>186441557
If you can put up with the translation quality, it's fine. Nothing super terrible, but not great either.

Also i'm posting Elie, but the Crossbell cast shines as a group. Her scenes with Lloyd are cute as fuck though.

>>186441557
She is a nice girl but she really is boring. People only like her cause boobs/fanservice scenes and an irrational need for canon romance.

Zwei 2 when? I was kinda hoping to finish it before ys comes out

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Did they avoid the RandyxTio ship because they didn't want to retread the AgatexTita route again?

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>>186441429
>not understanding Xenogears
oh you poor anon

Now that we know the reason why it turned out that way was due to an ultimatum of "rush the second disc or end it at the first" I'm kind of glad they did it the way they did in hindsight
I found it to be an enjoyable experience all the way through just due to the way the characters and setting were written, with the only bad thing I can think of being the gear combat system- CS coming along and having giant robots that are actually fun was like a wet dream to me

>FF7, FF9, FFT
bad choices, I'll show mercy and post the correct good Square PS1 games for you:
Brave Fencer Musashi, Threads of Fate, SaGa Frontier/2, Racing Lagoon

>>186441727
Someone in a previous thread said that its a pretty literal translation compared to xseeds more verbose localization, but if you have at least a cursory understanding of Japanese it wouldnt really bother you.

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>>186441736
She is plenty attractive i won't lie, but i personally like her because of her babying attitude towards the group, her handling of negotiations, and generally being another level headed part of the group, which goes well with Lloyd. Plus the minor banter she gets sometimes too, like i said, the SSS shines more as a group, rather than individuals, aside from Randy i think, he was plenty entertaining.

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>>186436007
No need to rework the entire system. Trails isn't a super hardcore challenge series or anything. All it would really take is
-Each evaded attack reduces your evasion chance by 25% until you are hit
-After being affected by a status effect (Stat down not included), there is 3 turns of cooldown (the target's turns) before it can afflicted by the same status effect again (Including AT Delay)
-Domination, Tauros, Vermillion, and other flat damage boost quartz only work on crafts. Not S-Crafts.
-Domination doubles the delay of your boosted first attack
-The EP cost of Pandora increases as well with Rank
-Criminal increases the chance of the user being crit as well (30% at Rank 5)
-Burst Drive drastically increases the delay of both Machias and the targets after their attack
-Chrono Burst costs 100 CP along with the EP cost and prevents you from recovering EP or CP during your burst turns
-Moebius AOE items can't restore CP or EP to anyone but the main target

Feel free to contact me at any time Falcom. I have my resume ready.

>>186441926
Yeah yeah I've heard those things before and they sound nice but in the end it falls flat. No one really remembers any of these negotiations or minor banter. It's stuff like being molested by Shirley and anything romantic with Lloyd that people care about.

Alright guys this isn't funny anymore. Where the fuck is my keke bear? All I see here is a police dog.

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>>186441852
Im playing xenogears now. Why is the second disk so bad?

>>186442204
The second disc isn't bad, people are just butthurt by the way the story is told. There's a lot of text with gameplay in between

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>>186437527
No. If you get his HP below like 70% then the fight automatically ends.

>>186442187
Great poca took him. It's all because of him.

>>186441831
Bracers and Liberl are degenerates. The SSS is technically the police, they can't be endorsing dating minors.

>>186442204
because it's not a game
you just watch characters sitting in chairs explaining what happens, and then you do a really short dungeon with a boss on occasion

There really was a lot of potential, but it was too ambitious and their deadline was too close for them to do it justice
I'd say Xenogears as a whole is still pretty good, the final dungeon is neat, and at least you still have postgame sidequests to do I prefer loli Emeralda though

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>>186442315
Welp I started it for the story, so I'd assume I wont be bothered than

>>186441727
The fuck is Randy doing in that picture?

>>186442653
feeding the cat?

>>186442653
Probably came back from cooking to check up on the others.

>>186443042
That pose does not suggest feeding a cat.

>>186442653
Getting ready to catch Tio's pantsu that unfortunately Lloyd won't throw.

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>>186441727
That amount of mishy obsession is not healthy

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COMFY

>>186443434
After what Tios been through, I would shower her with Mishy.

>>186443438
What are the odds we get a boss fight on top of the train while its moving?

>>186443434
Have you seen her room

>>186434893
I don't want an Ys VI remake because it's already my favorite game in the series

>>186443546
Seems like something Bleublanc would revel in.

>>186443546
100%, they know their trope.
Already did it in Ao

I want Agate to slice off the arm of a Soldat with an improved Vibro-blade.

>>186443438
This game is going to be the best one yet, don't @ me

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You have my virginity.

>>186443946
It couldnt possibly be worse than Sen II.
Sen II was alright, just really terrible in select spots.

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>>186444023
I have such a soft spot for the gallant knightly and proud ojou-sama girls.
I don't care if shes a Saber clone or whatever.

>>186444586
hnnnnnngh

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>>186444449
Here's the original

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>>186444023
I'll be gentle.

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Tokyo Xanadu and Trails of Cold Steel have both sold much more than Ys VIII. Fans have made things clear: We need add Towa to Ys.

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>>186444678
Im looking forward to more of her too, believe me.

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>>186444586
What a stupid face.

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>>186444864
Why do people hate Ys?

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>>186445061
I like Ys.
Looking forward to 7 because I wasn't going to waste money on a Vita for one game.

>>186445061
Just memes.

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cold steel is super interesting

>>186445912
Viscount Arseid would like to have a word with you.

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>>186445912
It gets far more interesting later on too

>>186446162

I want to put my face there and take a deep whiff

>>186441852
>not understanding Xenogears
Why do you Xenogears fans ALWAYS resort to this strawman? Hurr durr ur 2 stupid 2 understand it lmao XD

Alright, fine. I'll take the bait.

Xenogears is ultimately about several massively overpowered characters whose conflicting goals and philosophies help shape the game's world and its fate. You have Karellen, a dude who was let down by his previous faith and believes humanity should assimilate with some biomechanical monstrosity to achieve salvation and ascend to a higher plane of being. You have Lacan (Grahf), a destitute nihilist who just wants to live to the end of the world and see everything end because he could save his fem-pope would-be girlfriend from dying. You have Id, a sadistic, sociopathic split personality of the main character formed from years of abuse who wants to end the world himself because fuck people and their shit. You have Myyah, the central AI of the previously mentioned bio-mechanical monstrosity incarnated as a woman and able to body hop from one female to the next as needed. She simply wants to revive that monstrosity's true form and go back to Earth... for some reason. And then you have Fei and Elly, the main characters who are tied to these people in more ways than one, but want to stop all four of them and allow humanity to live in peace. There, that's the main conflict and thematic focal point of Xenogears. Everything else is lore and fluff embellished by various Gnostic and psychoanalytical flavorings.

That's not why the game sucks, though. It sucks because the second disc is a poorly paced mess of cutscenes. It sucks because the battle system is boring and underdeveloped. It sucks because the dungeons are lame and not fun to explore. It sucks because there's next to no good side quests and towns and travel only serve as checkpoints in the plot. And finally, it sucks because most characters besides the ones mentioned above don't get nearly the amount of development they deserve.

>>186442117
You could balance Criminal by reducing the cap to about 50%. Like how Murakumo capped at +25

>>186441852

Weltall's backpack is so stupid looking.

I know the reason but still....

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I want to eat ice cream with Renne!

>>186441852
>with the only bad thing I can think of being the gear combat system- CS coming along and having giant robots that are actually fun was like a wet dream to me

The funny thing was I thought the on foot combat was actually kind of fun, but you rarely get to use it since a good 70 percent of the dungeon's are Gear ones, including the entirety of the final one.

>>186445061
plebs who can't apprectiate good gameplay.

>>186446319
It was just too deep for you. And intellectual.

>>186442204

They ran out of time and budget so pretty much 90 percent of the second disk is characters narrating stuff they did to the player with the occasional boss battle.

They do finally knock this off at the very end so you can go back to the world map and have a regular final dungeon, although most of the areas are no longer accessible.

>>186447401
>It was just too deep for you. And intellectual.
I mean, to its credit, it had some good ideas, but the final product was a shoddy mess.

If you want a Squaresoft game from around the same time period, play Final Fantasy Tactics. That game was way more polished and well-executed by comparison.

>>186447795
Too much of a game of thrones ripoff.

>>186443438
Charm of a night train.

>>186446731
>Murakumo
>Balanced

It's the most powerful Physical MQ once you get the NG+ Ice crown, because then you can have a 95% critical ratio (50% ice crown + 10 to 15% Weapon + 10% Grand cordon + 25 % level 5 MQ) plus the base critical ratio, which should be around 5%.

And critical multiplier applies to the end damage, not the base damage. So compared to tauros, it's the difference between:

Base STR x attack modifier x buff percentage x [1 + 1,5 (taurus MQ) + 1 (domination) + 1 (revolution/waterfall)] x 1,5 (critical hit) = 6,75 times the power of a normal MQ without a crit.

While Murakumo is:

Base STR x attack modifier x buff percentage x (1 + 1 + 1) x 2,5 = 7,5 times the attack power of a normal MQ without a crit.

Without domination they are about even if tauros crits, but again murakumo can get crits 100% and it hasn't even got the delay drawback either.

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Not this fag again.

>>186447897
>Too much of a game of thrones ripoff.
Ogre Battle came out before A Song of Ice and Fire.

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Tio bullying Randy gives me life.

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>>186448251
You're about to enter the best section in the game.

>>186448041
I never said that Murakumo itself was balanced. What I said was that the critical rate on Criminal was too high used Murakumo's base 25% as a reference point.

>>186448530
He better choose Tio_

>>186443438

It might be comfy, but there's a blatant downside to using a train instead of the Courageous.

You can't exactly sneak around Osborne's back when you have to use his railways, which is probably exactly why he gave it to them.

>>186448251
I swear he's the Grandmaster, desu.

The Star Door involving Olivert and Osborne showed that Lechter is only loosely affiliated with Osborne and that their alliance is weirdly structured for a supposed Boss/Underling thing.

>>186449235
He's more likely to be the 4th Anguis,
considering the manner of speech.

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This is your shop today.

>>186449674
Her mother is right, she really is the cutest thing.

>>186449235
The grandmaster is a woman

>>186448653
Pandora makes more damage than criminal, but is offset by having more EP consumption and no delay reduction (unless it's CS1, where it's the best art MQ), while magius does even more damage than that but only at low HP. Maybe if it came without any inbuilt arts, so you'd need to use slots to place spells instead of just stat increases.

>>186449002
We'll definitely use Courageous again

>>186449674
CS3 Tita is too fucking cute. I want to give her headpats.

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>>186449808
Took you long enough to notice.

>>186449884
>>186449972
To be fair, Agate is pretty cute too

>>186450181
Akatsuki right?

>>186449876
well the penalty of being more like to receive crits isn't really any penalty at all so hitting the crit rate was far more practical i guess. Besides the really broken arts quartz is Aries anyway.

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>>186450309
Yeah

>>186450181
>Blushing Fie portrait
My heart.

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His alt costume is pretty good.

Why does Dudley use a gun when he can just punch everything instead?

>>186450181
CS1 mod to replace 3D portraits when?

>>186450571
It's chuuni, but better than the gay bodysuit.

>>186450634
>Wasting your justice energy

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>>186450421
Careful anon, she's armed

>>186450828
Damn. Girl's just begging for a headpat and a bear hug.

>>186449651
Before he even got into Jenis? I highly doubt that.

Is there a modern Falcom girl who is worse than Asuka?

>>186452087
Angelica

>>186452087
Elise?

Is Sara a virgin?

>>186452251
Of course not

>>186452251
>>>/r9k/

>>186452087
Angelica

>>186452251
Fie's adoptive dad fucked her and she's been pining for him ever since.

>>186452087
Angelica

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>>186452251
YES. Kill me otherwise.

>>186452251
Probably, why else would she get flustered when Rean hugged her.

>>186452087
Who is Asuka?

R9k virgins need to stop projecting

For Cold Steel, do books carry over in NG+, or will I have to hunt down Red Moon Rose all over again?

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>>186452546

>>186452875
>>186452546
DELETE

>>186450828
I still have around 2600 BCs in akatsuki. Should i?

>>186452757
TX's heroine. Funny, I forgot about her until this post >>186452956
Guess TX is really that forgettable.

She's not a bad character though.

>>186453187
Who is the best character in TX?

They really didn't try hard to hide Alisa's last name did they? I just got past the scene where you meet up with her Emma and Laura in the old schoolhouse and its already very obvious what her last name is.

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>>186453279
CEO's wife

>>186453379
I thought it was Reise Arnor.
CS was my first Trails game though.

Music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8sxwHOHdBE

>>186453379
I think the Arcus covers spoil it too.

>>186453794
>Music plays
>"wow this is pretty nice"
>Suddenly vocals
Fuck this shit. Why did Falcom keep pushing this shitty idol singer?

What time does the trailer go up

>>186453932
5 hours

>>186453379
It's not supposed to really be a secret, it's more about why she's hiding it.

>>186453794
Which anime are these songs from?

>>186454259
Eiyuu Densetsu: Sen no Kiseki III

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>>186453794
>people expected a trailer

>>186453794
>Last music has To A Glimmering Tomorrow leitmotif
Nice

>>186454259
It's real

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>Finally added a screen to show stat increases on level up in CS
Awesome I've been wanting that since FC.

>>186454259
The Legend of Eiyuu: Flash Trajectory III

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>>186453794
Juna a cute! CUTE!

Can't wait to have both Tio and Tita in my party.

>>186453794
My hype is real, but it would be off the charts if they posted a trailer

>>186454703
Do NOT weaponize cuteness. It's meant to save the world, not destroy it.

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Any experts know who this is?

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Who could this ass possibly belong to

>>186455138
>>186455176
>blue hair
Claire?

>>186455138
>>186455176
>Female RMP officer
There's only one named character like that.

>build massive flying fortress airships
>use them as taxis to drop people off for hand to hand combat
>erebonians in charge of waging war

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Lewd

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>>186455138
>>186455176
best girl

>>186455685
I want to be that gun

>>186455278
Too much colateral. You don't bomb the shit out of your own country unless it's shit enough that it doesn't matter

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>>186455138
The blue candy floss is back

>>186455138

It's Claire, though why they're not showing her face is weird.

>>186455685
>Rean, Juna, Musee, Altina
That looks like my kind of party

>>186456150
>Kurt and Ash cucked into bench

>>186455685
Best party.

>>186455278
There's a reason why Erebonia got shit on by a country with a military a 1/50th of its size in the last major war.

>>186456372
But Erebonia annexed both Crossbell and North Ambria?

>>186456372
Erebonia was winning until when Cassius got involved though.

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pre-order his game so that the Erebonian Empire will expand forever more

also I feed all the HQ food to the jinzo in east street but I got a wind gem and not Kusanagi... idk if I screwed something up or got cheated

>>186456741
Go out and comeback.

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>>186456741
delet this

>>186453794
WHERE IS KOTERA SONG?
FUCK IDOL SLUT

>>186456551
>major war

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>>186455278

>Bombing the shit out of land that you want to rule and turning the people against you

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So this is... the power... of a soldat....

>>186456551
>a small state after they shat the bed themselves and they got their independence like 2-3 years later
>a half-ruined country
Great war and comparison there.

>>186453794
Why would Shirley need a rocket launcher for?

Remember not to cry or say you're sorry /fg/.

It'll only make things worse.

>>186456895
Just because Erebonia cucked them in record speed doesn't mean they weren't major wars.

>>186456942
To have some fun?

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So trailer never ever then?

>>186456910
I think nobody but Olivier cares about that.

>>186456372

>Got shit on
>Was barely a full division doing the invasion of Liberl
>Reinforcements were on the way
>War was only stopped when the war hawks in the erebonian government got executed for treason

>>186456925
>When you're trying to go for a nice country walk, but there's giant robots in the way.

>>186456942
Why not? It's Shirley, common sense doesn't apply to her.

>>186456372
>Liberl scum trying to make the invasion out as a major war

Can't find an archive anywhere. Anyone have a link to that Nisa tweet where they accidentally confirmed cold steel 3? Direct link posted here was a deleted link.

>>186452839
Yeah, they carry over if you didn't turn them in.

Which steel wud u cold? Hard mode: you can't pick Machias.

>>186457246
Fuck off NISAfag, they're never ever getting CS3.

>>186456825
still not getting it... just says the Jizo is being served, I even made all the all food again to make sure I didn't accidently miss any...

I got the scene with the old lady or whatever who talks to you, but she gave me a wind gem (move+3)

I'm so confused never seen anything like this happen in a kiseki game

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Will Rean and not!Crow simultaneously flip a 50 mira coin before they do an exclusive combo attack?

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>>186457307
Fuck, forgot pic

>>186457246
You mean the tweet that never happened?

>>186457452
I unironically want to fuck Jusis

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Hey /fg/, I need some advice.

I just beat Zero No Kiseki and I have Cold Steel I & II waiting to be played on my PS3.

Now I'm contemplated whether or not to continue onto Cold Steel I & II skipping Ao No Kiseki and play it when its fully translated.
Last time I checked the english translations for Ao is about 50% finished(?)

Do I need to play Ao to avoid missing any cross-referencing Cold Steel I & II make?

Or should I read this summary this one person made: http://eiyuutrans.blogspot.ca/2014/03/crossbell-archives-ao-no-kiseki.html
And then continue on to Cold Steel? Or any plausible alternative (I'm not a patient person, I'd like to catch up with Cold Steel asap)?

Can we agree that Azure Sigfried is Rean from the future

>>186457801
You'll miss some references but either way one will spoiler the other. Just play CSI-II for now and wait for Ao.

>>186457801
Ao spoils the fuck out of cold steel. Play cold steel before Ao

>>186453794
Where is the WebCM song?

>>186457801
Go play the shitty spreadsheet version of Ao.

>>186458342
It's a mystery to everyone

>>186457972
>>186458215
I might start Cold Steel this weekend then.

>>186458365
How hard is it to understand the machine translations?

>>186458423
Since the songs are not tagged I assume the first vocal track in the mini OST is an insert song and not the OP. It sounds nice but she is not Kotera.

>walking down the street
>suddenly, Joshua, Lloyd, and Rean walk by you and slap your ass simultaneously
What do you do?

>>186458550
>machine translations
It's impossible. Don't do it.

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>>186458695
Join their harem I guess.

>>186458550
The main story is passable enough since most of it isn't machine translated.

>>186456741
GIB CROSSBELL SIR

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>Tiosuke upskirt
D-DELET

>>186457307
Depends
Relationship: Emma or Fie
Fuck: Millium, Fie, or Elliot

>>186456968
Cry for me, kimi no

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>>186458953
What's Mishy going to do with Tio?

>>186458953
Is this Zero? I don't remember this scene when I went to Michelam.

>>186457430
Are you sure? Remember Kusanagi will be listed as a master quarts not a regular quartz.

>>186458695
Reveal myself to be an Ouroboros enforcer.

>>186459270
It's Ao.

>>186457452
Gaius is objectively best relationship material. After Towa of course.

>>186459270
It's from Evolution

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Obviously gotta go with vanilla Elie, but my bro Randy. Fuck.

>>186459270
It's a Vita-only quest apparently.

>>186459473
>picking with your dick
You are a weak man but it's what your bro would want for you so it's fine.

>>186457246
It doesn't exist.

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These are your waifus tonight.

>>186458695
Fuck, I got a mental image of them doing a link rush ass slap.

>>186459905
Mhmm, more smexy waifus to add to Rean's harem.

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>>186459676
I guess I'll just have to play this part three times.

Trailer actually dropping?

>>186460245
No, go back to sleep.

>>186460352
But it drops in one hour

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>>186459276
yeah I don't get it either... I saw it gave me a wind Gem and even confirmed I have 2 in my inventory (first play through mind you)

I've been running around the town making some of the final equipment, still just says it's being served... idk what I screwed up, I know I've had a few weird bugs and even had to load the JPN version to get past some of spots that would crash with the english patch. Idk if that some how tricked my file into thinking I already had kusanagi there for it gave me the wind gem instead...

>>186461445
That skirt is too short.

>>186460610
I can't handle all these gloves and stockings.

post randy

>>186459473
I went with Randy didn't regret it. Wanted the bro bonding event.

>>186456551

Crossbell did all the damage to itself. Erebonia took it without a fight. All they had to do was hold off the Calvard army coming in from the other side, which was easy with their new force of Soldat's and Valimar.

Anyone tried applying the voice patch to translated Zero?

>>186457047

I'm starting to think whatever happens outside out of the first chapter are major spoilers they don't want to show outside of out of context screenshots.

>>186462196
>All they had to do was hold off the army of the other massive country
Right, so they didn't get shit on in the last major war.

Something that bugs me, Falcom is a small company with a relatively smaller budget, how is it possible they are making all of these games anyway and with good quality?

>>186461103
If Paola already gave you the quartz I doubt you can trigger the scene again so it's probably some weird/rare bug in your version. I used the menu+voice patch and I got kusanagi just fine.

>>186460610

I just realized, she's with the group when you face off against the Steel Maiden.

Is she a party member now?

>>186462521
Another for Rean's harem.

>>186462458
That's why the graphics and animations are never good.

>>186462349

It's alot eaiser when you have giant robots led by a magical giant robot.

>>186462349
>Major war
If it was a major war then Rean wouldn't have been able to return to school and watch his friends graduate.

>>186462458

Minimal voice acting and no fancy anime cutscenes.

Also they cut corners, like only having one weapon model for each character.

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>>186462521
I hope so, it'll give me more reasons to bench the Nu-Class VII shitters.

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What's the best Kiseki city and why is it Legram?

>>186462965
>millium
>no altina
>sara
>no fie
>jusis
So many weird group pairings, wonder if those are just characters they chose to bring or if they're story-mandated parties

>>186463181
>Any city better than Crossbell

>>186463293
>Kiseki NYC
>better than anything
It's as bad as Roer and Zeiss.

>>186463181
Legram, because the fog reminds me of home and it's by the water.

>>186463441
But I like Zeiss.

>>186453794
>the blue-haired girl uses a spear
Best girl.

How good are the max recipe rewards? I missed that Garrelia one and I really don't want to go back.

>>186463441
But Roer is great.
My vote probably goes to Heimdallr, with Bose being close second.
Mainz has a really comfy theme though.

>That generic as fuck opening
Why.

>>186464302
It's probably not an opening.
Hopefully.
I mean they're not going to ditch Kanako Kotera, right?

>>186464379
They already did like 2 years ago

>>186464515
For TX, I assume?

Now that i think about it, the Stahlritter girls really look like the angels from 3rd's final dungeon.

>>186464705
Yeah, it hit me when I was playing through the 3rd, but I only knew about Duvalie at that point.

What's the point of Richard's Luminous Divider when Luminous Ogre Slash does almost the same amount of damage and delay for 5 less CP + 30% Faint?

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>still no PV


REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Is it worth to enhance weapons in cs? or should I save my u-materials for something else? I'm playing on nightmare.

>>186464593
Yes. After that i don't remember they bring kotekana to concert anymore.

>>186464705
Those angels were split into 3 types too.
A bow user, a sword user and another.

>>186464905
What the fuck is this gay nig frog

>>186464920
Depends on your playstyle really. I only upgraded Rean's + other physical attackers, I didn't bother upgrading the supports/mages because they were buff/healbots.

Elliott is a cute shota and I want to pound his boipussy

>>186465136
It was a staff user. Not a halberd, but doesn't Aines have a healing S-craft?

>>186464920
Yes. There is not much other than weapons that you'll need to spend your u-materials on and every chapter has a spot or two where you can easily grind a bunch of them quickly if you feel so inclined.

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>Defeat Me. That is all

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Pre-order her game and give her back her Crossbell.

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>>186466484

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>>186466484

>The combat in Sky was nothing spectacular but serviceable
>Messing around with orbaments was fun at least

>Play CS
>They made it even worse
>It's so dumbed down I could probably just auto attack my way through the game

What the shit happened. Why does everyone have so many fucking Delay crafts. Why does Delay work on bosses at all. Why am I playing on Nightmare and still finding this shit brainded. 3rd was the closest the gameplay got to good but this is many steps back. Damn. Also I can't stress enough how fucking dumbed down they made the Arts system. What the shit.

Also all the characters are pretty awful but that's already been discussed to death here I've seen.

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Apparently I've been playing on PS3 instead of my PC.

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>>186467064
>actually liking the arts spreadsheets

>>186467064
yawn

>>186467064
>Why does Delay work on bosses at all.
Because they'd rape your ass if it didn't.

so i guess im finishing zero chapter 3. i wish reene just get back to her real family.but i guess it is better for estelle and joshua to have her.she wont right
;_;

>>186467280
I spent that entire cutscene on the edge of my seat hoping Renne would come out and talk to her parentsbut I knew it was never going to happen.

>>186467245
>being a dumb bimbo

>>186467280
Honestly it was one of those times it was for the best.

>>186467245
Why do people pretend that sepith count was so revolutionary when every mage basically ran Cast, EP Cut and Action anyway meaning that their spell lists were only slightly different based on locks?

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>>186467280
Yeah. Maybe when she's older and has truly dealt with things they can meet again.

>>186467501
Because it's hard to have a narrative that the old system wasn't absolute garbage while also being honest.

>>186462521
>implying she didn't jump in after Arianrhod pushed your shit in to save your asses
Sen III everyone.

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>CS4

>>186467693
>FC
Make Aerial for everyone until when you can make White Gehenna or Aero Storm (if you need the range)

>SC
Make Aerial for everyone until when you can make Death Scream and Earth Wall (Except for Kloe who can't get Earth Wall without fucking up something with those shit lines)

>3rd
SC but add Dark Matter EX to the list

>>186467064
Messing around with the arts combination is fun, but the combat is just as braindead.

>>186467501
>People
It's just the latest shitpost fad.

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>>186467495
Is it really? It's pretty clear that the Hayworths are still pretty broken-hearted over it, despite how much of a happy family they are for Colin. I know Renne herself still needs time to get through it, but I can't imagine they would ever be anything besides jumping for joy if they ever found out Renne was still alive.

>>186467878
>Cold Steel the 4th with Gaius as MC

>>186468094
It would be pretty awkward considering everything Renne went through.
If I was Renne, I wouldn't want to drag my parents with me.

>>186468043
>>186467927
>>186467897
>>186467693
Fuuny how the CS apologists only showed up after the PC release, "master race" indeed.

>>186468094
How would they react if they found out what Renne went through? It'd crush them.

>>186468260
>
FC is my favorite game, but come on.

>>186468260
Just shut up.

>>186467927
>most bosses are weak to ailments and delays
>evasion stack
>art crits
>bell quartz
I just beat CS chapter 5 boss on nightmare without letting her act even once. That's a braindead combat. I don't even have healing arts equipped since chapter 2 or so.

>>186468846
and in Trails in the Sky you just need to give Kevin Gladiator Belt then you win.

>>186468846
How is this any different to sitting down and vomiting Earth Wall as long as its not up again?

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Edgy!

>>186468920
>>186468946
Shitting on Sky doesn't make CS good.

>>186469040
Shitting on CS doesn't make Sky good.

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Wish I could just be Randy and chill with Tiosuke while Lloyd and Elie do the hard work in the mansion.

>They bring back combination crafts in CS3
>Tita and Tio combo Orbal and Eidolon Gears

I want.

>>186468920
Gladiator Belt is a late game accessory. Kevin is absent for most of SC and only mandatory for a short time. Any party in CS is broken.
>>186468946
Because otherwise you will get raped, in CS you don't need earth wall because the enemy boss won't one shot you. I don't even stack evasion or use Rean that much, but the problem with ailments still remains. It's just faint - crit - sleep - crit all the time.

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>Hans calls her an evil genius
>this face
Is the Grandmaster actually Jill?

>>186469875
>Jill just falls asleep on Hans's bed
>He doesn't fuck her
What a fag.

>>186469813
>the enemy boss won't one shot you.
If you actually let them get a turn in, even random encounters can give you game overs in CS/CS2 on nightmare. Mcburn in 2 is entirely dependent on whether or not you can get delay to stick on him because he'll fuck your shit up otherwise.

>The jaegers in sky didn't even get comfy letterman jackets and their own sports team logo
feelsbad being in the stormtrooper corps i guess

>>186469813
Enemy nightmare damage in CS is pretty much the same that is in Sky. Random encounter enemies kill in 2-3 hits, most bosses kill in two hits and the enemy S-Crafts will 1 shot.

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Is that a Jester or a Red Constellation jaeger? I want the enhanced Jester Oroboros crew to come back because more Gilbert.

>>186470187
>>186470063
>What is S-Craft spam
CS2 is even easier than CS1, don't try and defend it.

>>186470245
he looks too evil to be a jester

>>186468846
>most bosses are weak to ailments and delays
Isn't this only fair?

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>>186470245
>yfw it's the real Lorence Belgar

>>186470063
>random encounters can give you game overs in CS/CS2 on nightmare
No, they can't. In Zero and Ao they sometimes could, but not in Sen.

>>186468260
Yep your totally right not a single person has ever defended cold steel until the PC release.

>>186470564
>No, they can't.
I can assure you they can.

>>186470594
Finally some sanity in here.

>>186470063
>>186470187
I'm still in CS1. I don't even bother with advantages anymore. Just attack head-on, spin2win with Laura and clean the remains. Also CP recovery in this game is insane. Just equip Force, kill few enemies with S-Craft and you have 100 cp again.
>>186470407
It's not when you faint and delay them into oblivion for those 100% crits.

>>186470625
I would suggest you to git gud.

>>186470625
Maybe if you're a brainlet.

>>186470269
What do S-Crafts have to do with enemy damage values?

What do you even want to hear? ALL of the Kiseki games have massive balance issues and can be broken easily except for a few specific fights. I don't get why you people felt the need to spew constant vitriol about CS. What are you even getting out of it?

>>186470564
If for some reason they manage to get a high level art off whether its through a back attack or just plain bad luck with ailment procs, you're probably dead but that's par the course for the series anyway.

>>186470936
I remember how fucking Gilbert of all people wiped me on normal in the 3rd when he got off a freeze on both of my characters.

Which Hero Mythology Projection game is your favourite?

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bright as the sun

>>186471058
Freeze is an obnoxious ailment especially in that Ravens door. The Cryon boss fight was torture.

>>186471438
beautiful

>Blueblanc married a noble's wife
Geez, I guess there really isn't anything he won't steal.

>>186472065
The wife also shows up as a npc in CS.

I'm halfway through chapter 1 of Zero.
Does Arios get better later on?
The way people sucked his dick around here I thought he be interesting.
Basically he just showed up after never being mentioned for 3 games but actually he's as strong as Cassius!
Even uses the same weapon.
He just seems bullshit right now.
Please tell me he gets enough development to explain this.

>>186472298
He doesn't become really interesting or cool until later on in Ao

>>186472298
Cassius uses a staff.

>>186472298
>People sucked his dick
I thought people hates Arios

>>186472298
Explain what? He's a very strong bracer and people love him since crossbell is kinda shit so you don't have many people to rely on. Besides you're rookies so someone needs yo bail you out until you get good. He gets very plot relevant in Ao.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6MLMmq0CRw

This is pretty much the only evo track I prefer to the original

I love Fie's midriff

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Is that some Rie I hear? I love me some Rie.