/agdg/ - Amateur Game Development General

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Does anyone want to collab for the LD Jam? I use Unity, I'm primarily a programmer but I can make shitty stylized art, and have been practicing lowpoly 3d. Picrelated is my portfolio, you can play my games at https://snekdev.itch.io/. I've done several collabs here before.

For the LD I'd like to use at least some lowpoly 3d, besides that I'm open to suggestions.

Leave a discord or email here, or message me at snek#9588.

my ass itches but i cant get my fingers in between my cheecks enough because my pants are in the way, but if i scratch my bare ass my fingers will smell. what do i do?

>>184159851
scratch over your underwear

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>>184159939
fucking genius

>>184159851
Eat lots of gassy food and have your farts scratch that itch for you.

>>184159851
go to the restroom and wipe your ass with toilet tissue and then wash your hands. problem solved. if you're too lazy to do that, you're probably too lazy to make game.

Playing video games is just research for my game, so this month wasn't wasted.

seventh for staying up late so I can see what the LD jam is so I can decide what to do during my sleep

How do I store voxels?

>>184160292
Gotta scope out the market to make a top notch GDD.

>>184160354
it's a 3d array retard

>>184159005
That game does have lovely colors. But I never really liked the complete flat shading. It just makes organic things look ugly. A game like that can still look good with some models having smooth bits of shading.

>>184159561
>Not Ludum Dare Edition
Heh, probably not even a jammer. Out of the way scrub, real gamedevs coming through.

>>184160512
i can see where you're coming from. personally i love the flat shaded look. its easy to embrace where as if you use smooth shading on a low poly model, you need to fiddle to make sure it doesnt look bad
but you do you anon!

>>184159729
sorry i'm a nodev ;)

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Threadly reminder that if you don't store flags in strings, you're not a real dev and you'll never get $60k/year on Patreon.

>>184160354
>>184160435
On a much bigger scale and optimized for size as much as possible.

I have my own idea but I was writing a post explaining it in last thread and forgot to copy it when coming to the new thread to post it.

>>184160524
>>184160714
could be better, delete this post and rewrite it again

>>184160747
It's a 3d array of 3d arrays, retard

>>184160587
>more than 1 hour until it even begins
Bet you enjoy campaigning for elections that aren't even held in the same year as the campaign.

>>184160824
Anybody else?

Is it considered bad practice to use begin/end step events in gms? I have this retarded issue, that is solved by using begin step.

The dumbest part is, If I use that same code on the first line of my step event, my issue persists. I mean, there doesn't seem to be any difference in the order of execution here. Isnt it -begin -step -end? Or am I misunderstanding?

>>184160620
I agree that smooth shading can be hard to achieve on low poly. Although Grown Home isn't really an extremely low poly game, those plants have enough polys that smooth shading would look fine on them.

>>184160714
Imagine working with him on a game

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Had an itch to work on my Spelunky-like a bit

Bombs now fling other bombs around

I'm sure this will have some kind of useful application

>>184160818
I'm going to need at least $10,000 a month to refactor my post a third time.

>>184160747
chunks aka 3d array of 3d arrays

>>184160896
>>184161020

>>184160896
not sure what kind of answer you are expecting

>>184160292
What games are you playing for research?

>>184160973
Making an enemy that drops several bombs on death or something will benefit from those physics.
I'm sure some players might find some other uses as well.

>>184160747
What's your idea?

>>184160896
It's a 3d array of 3d arrays of 3d arrays, retard

>>184160747
I suppose you could use some sort of compression when storing it, but for working with it in memory I don't see a way to avoid a 3d array, retard

>>184160747
>A voxel represents a value on a regular grid in three-dimensional space. As with pixels in a bitmap, voxels themselves do not typically have their position (their coordinates) explicitly encoded along with their values. Instead, rendering systems infer the position of a voxel based upon its position relative to other voxels (i.e., its position in the data structure that makes up a single volumetric image).
I don't see how you could implement this as anything but a 3D array.

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>he implements voxels as a 3d array

>>184160747
sparse map from 3d indices to 3d arrays

>>184161081
An actually useful answer. I already told you the map is going to be huge and I need to compress the shit.
The terrain will be generated, so most of the voxels can be computed on the fly. I just need to store a single seed value for the entire map and all the chunks that differ.

>>184161239
Basically what I said above. I also have a very specific format for storing the nodes that is hard to explain.
I have a global array of node type names like "stone", "dirt", ...
For every chunk I store a 1D array of union { node type index; position }.
After each node type index comes a list of positions of voxels of the type. Each position has an auxiliary bit that delimits the list when 0 (let's say position is x, y, z, a. If a = 0 then the next element of the array is a next node type index. Actually a is 2 bits because I store whole areas filled with voxels of a given type but that's too much complexity for one post.

A dictionary of 3D vectors that map to the voxel data.

>>184162224
>The terrain will be generated, so most of the voxels can be computed on the fly. I just need to store a single seed value for the entire map and all the chunks that differ.
Nigga are you making a Minecraft clone in the year 2017?

>>184162224
>I just need to store a single seed value for the entire map and all the chunks that differ.
See >>184162123

>>184162112
how would you do it?

>>184160825
>50 minutes
It's going to be the main topic of discussion soon. YA BLEW IT

>>184162509
>>184162224
>all the chunks that differ
for each chunk all the voxels that differ from those generated by the seed*
sorry, typo

>>184162363
I'm just speculating, I don't know if I'm going to actually make a game, it's a huge project.
I might try to help an existing Open Source project but I don't know if I'll do even that.

>>184162680
>for each chunk all the voxels that differ from those generated by the seed*
I knew what you meant, but thanks for clearing up

>>184162680
With that attitude, you already know that you won't get the project done. Try making a tech demo for a specific feature instead, and wrap it in the most minimal game you can think of.

>>184162680
>>184162792
I should add that the data structure should be on-disk. If you have Minecraft-scale worlds you won't be able to store everything in RAM. Maybe a RDBMS and store the chunk data as binary data?

>>184162680
Store each chunk as a 3D array.
If the space X,Y,Z is null, it is unmodified.
Otherwise, it contains the new voxel.

This doesn't seem very complicated, actually. What's your problem?

>I'm just speculating, I don't know if I'm going to actually make a game, it's a huge project.
Why do you want to make a Minecraft clone? There's no market for it, unless you go whole hog on the autism and include a robust programming system and some way to automate tasks with it.

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>>184160714
i mean come on. even his mascot who has become an icon itself is from the asset store

who the fuck buys their main character from the asset store?

>>184163012
>This doesn't seem very complicated, actually. What's your problem?
It's not compressed enough. Here comes some complexity:

>>184162224
>Actually a is 2 bits because I store whole areas filled with voxels of a given type but that's too much complexity for one post.

position := x, y, z, a
if a = 0, that's a delimiter that I explained
if a = 1, that's a position of a single voxel of the given type
if a = 2, that's one vertex of a cuboid filled with voxels of the given type
if a = 3, that's the second vertex. Together with a matching a = 2 they make the cuboid.
a = 0 also closes any cuboid with no matching a = 3
If a voxel or a cuboid is nested in another cuboid, it cuts it.

This way I should largely reduce the size of a chunk stored. My problem is that I can't think out an algorithm that would store the voxels in this format in an optimal way.

>>184163752
She was originally a placeholder but he let fandom memes take over.

>>184163818
If anybody has a better idea than that, that's what I asked for. But it looks like nobody does. Also if somebody has an idea for an algorithm that compresses the voxels to my format, I would appreciate it. I'm not very good with algorithms.

>>184163752
>>184163829
>buy said asset pack
>make bootleg Yandere sim
>rake in dosh from the fans because you made the superior version

>>184163752
everything in his game is assets/donated assets
the only thing he did was the horrible code (which is now being rewritten by a competent person)

>>184164126
>search for "voxel compression algorithm"
>all the results are from 2011
kek

>>184163818
Wouldn't it be easier to just move chunks dynamically in and out of RAM?
How big is your world that you can't afford to store it on the disc?

Also, I don't think I quite understand your system here - are you storing the voxel's position within the voxel itself instead of storing it relatively in a larger data structure? If so, how does each voxel know its neighbors?

>>184164420
>how does each voxel know its neighbors?
Check all voxels and pick the one with the right coordinate, duh.

>>184164141
And yet nobody will.

I'm shit at making music.
Can I just use public domain music and sounds and remix them for my game?

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how do i pick good colors? how many colors should a character generally have, 2-3?

>>184165130
If you can't make music, why do you think that you can remix it well?

>>184164141
>>184165049
It's actually pretty weird that there's no other anime Hitman clone.
Aping everything in YanSim would definitely be overboard not least because the game has a lot of unnecessary chaff, but "cute anime girl killing people without getting caught" is the primary draw, and that'd be easy to copy.

>>184165230
3-5 + shades

>>184165230
https://support.steampowered.com/kb/9334-YDXV-8590/dota-2-workshop-character-art-guide

>>184165230
3, 1 major 2 minors

>>184165274
I'll probably be shit at remixing too.
Is it okay to use completely unaltered CC0 recordings of music for my game?

>>184165230
look at your game's palette, try to fit your main character in with such colors that you can easily spot him at all times as a player

>>184165517
Yes. But don't be surprised when someone accuses you of being cheap and unoriginal.
And beware that while a piece of music may be public domain, it doesn't mean that every recording of that song is PD as well.
I.e. Beethoven's 5th is PD, but the Vienna Orchestra performing it in 2010 is not.

>>184165441
perfect, ty

>>184164420
>Wouldn't it be easier to just move chunks dynamically in and out of RAM?
I'm just asking how to store them. Where to store is a different question and it's obvious that I'll store them on the disk. I don't know yet if I'll use plain old files or a database.

>How big is your world that you can't afford to store it on the disc?
The bigger the better and I do store it on the disk. I don't even know what makes you think I wouldn't.

>how does each voxel know its neighbors?
Basically what >>184164573 says. The chunks aren't that big, the only problem will be borders of chunks.

My goal is to calculate everything on server side. I want to let the server figure out what voxels the player sees to mock those that should be hidden to him and send the mocks. That means the chunks should be as small as possible to be sent over the network as fast as possible.

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>>184159851
install bidet

>>184165783
don't worry tovarisch, the sheets are PD :^))))

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>>184165921
>Basically what >>184164573(You) says. The chunks aren't that big, the only problem will be borders of chunks.
I said so in jest!
Why would you cycle through all those voxels that are definitely not the one you want?!

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>>184165230
Just copy color palettes from popular robots.

>>184166334
Oh hey, it's Homestar Runner!

>>184165921
>Basically what >>184164573 says.
that's dumb

You only need to store the type of the voxel, right? It has no other essential properties? You could easily store it in a short if you are storing furniture in the same way, or in a single byte if this is only for the environment. Therefore, you only need a 3D array of one primitive data type.
Then you just need to find a way to compress a 3D array - I'm sure there are already algorithms for it.

>>184111463
People expect it to look like the left already and wouldn't think too much about it. Also the right has the characters much smaller (at least as you have it in the mockup) which seems like something you wouldn't want in a lewdgame.

How are you going to use up all that negative space you just made? How many assets have you drawn already?

>>184160354
Wow uh I hope you've got the money to pay for use of Notch's patent.

Your game's in-game text should be written in Esperanto first.

https://tay.kinja.com/esperanto-should-be-the-official-language-of-video-game-1440861881

Not enough hype posts for LD, theme is dropping in 1 min

Scrubbos

>>184167071
>hype posts
What is a hype post and why should we make them?

>>184167071
LD is a shovelware circlejerk, Who cares?

>>184167071
ldjam.com is getting hammered, now we'll never know the theme

>>184167210
To get the juices flowing.
Sexual juices.

>>184166132
>>184166653
In my format each chunk contains about 16k voxels. Most of the voxels are computed on the fly from the seed and not stored anywhere anyways. Computer is not a human counting on his fingers like you. It can handle something like this.
If it's too slow, I think I can avoid checking for neighbours for most task that normally do this and use something sweep line algorithms or something.

>You only need to store the type of the voxel, right? It has no other essential properties?
Either store the properties after the type of voxel (the amount of space needed to store the property determined by the type, the limitation is it must be a multiply of size of voxel type (16 bits in my format), store them in a separate array or split the type into more, each with a different property. With my format I can have over 64k types of voxels, that's enough.
For stuff like chests I'd just use a separate array.

>>184166873
I don't even know what you're talking about.

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>>184167053
Poe's Law

>>184167053
>The only reason Klingon is impractical is because only GEEKS use it
>The fact that it was specifically designed to be completely unlike any existing human language is purely incidental!
Anyway, nobody speaks Esperanto except for linguistics nerds. It's easier to just make all games in English, which is the most-spoken language in the world and is taught in most countries from an early age.

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the theme is running out of power

>>184163752
Think he did say he wanted to change her character model or some shit to look like the Persona style.

>>184167485
Could have been worse.

>>184167463
>English, which is the most-spoken language in the world
It's number three behind chinese and spanish.

>>184167485
how many people are gonna make a game about literally running

>>184167327
>Computer is not a human counting on his fingers like you. It can handle something like this.
But it doesn't NEED to. You could simply store them in an array and the computer could always know the neighbors of each voxel. It would even be easy to compute neighbors across chunks.

>Either store the properties after the type of voxel
WHAT are the properties?
And can you express the properties as a series of booleans? If so, you would only need a single 8-bit or 16-bit integer with bitflags.

I'm certainly no expert on compression, but I am sure you're overthinking this.

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>>184160354
I wrote a marching cubes terrain gen ages ago and posted about it here a few times

Since everything was procedurally generated, I needed a way to store that voxel data and load/unload chunks, as well has having some sort of Level of Detail management.

I ended up using an octree where the top level is a 3x3x3 array of root "nodes" that had 8 subnodes (2x2x2) each. I treated each subsequent child "node" as a higher fidelity level of detail (since logically each subnode is 1/8th the size of the parent).

Anyway, reason why I structured it this way is so I can center the whole system on the player. The player is kept in the middle top node [1,1,1] at all times, so if the player moves to [1,2,1] for example it shifts everything over, if that makes sense.

I'm pretty horrible at explaining this, but if you look up some tutorials to do with how octrees work you can make a pretty dynamic solution in handling terrain chunks.

Pic related, I made some pretty crazy terrain patterns

>>184167485
Pretty shit, but I got an idea
It's shit, but that's life

>>184167485
There's a game about botched executions via electric chairs in there somewhere.

>>184167327
>I don't even know what you're talking about.
Good good, ignorance means your fines will be smaller.

>>184167053
If some nerd offers to translate to Esperanto for free, I'd be all for it.

>>184167798
That looks cool, anon. Where's the game in that distorted looking world?

>>184167665
Not if you count non-native speakers, and there's no reason not to.
Children in China and India are all taught English in school, not Spanish.

>>184167924
That was from 3 or 4 years back. I ended up going back and rewriting the engine recently but haven't done anything with it, unfortunately.

2 specific questions for you /agdg/, don't worry about giving other advice or using different sounds.

Question A:
Out of these two pulse rifle sounds, which would you prefer to listen to for an extended period of time if you were forced to listen to it?

>1) 'pew pew'
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1GU9IhWubPh

>2) 'tsew tsew'
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0cVtDe1bSYB

~

Question B:
Which hit confirm-sound would you prefer to listen to for an extended period of time if you were forced to listen to it? (Both links above have the same 4 hit-confirm sounds, just wait around the halfway point to hear them in the order they're listed below)
1) 'tat'
2) 'punch'
3) 'bap'
4) 'beep'

>loodumb dare themes that are settings instead of mechanics
Rotten voters pick bad theme yet again! Sad!

>>184167771
>But it doesn't NEED to. You could simply store them in an array and the computer could always know the neighbors of each voxel. It would even be easy to compute neighbors across chunks.
That's not what I want. I want minimum size.
Normally disk space is cheaper than CPU and you'd prefer to run your computation faster on cost of storage but I want to send that data over network as fast as possible and network is always a bottleneck.

>>184168195
I like the ones that are single words

>>184167992
If you count non-native speakers, it's still ~100 million short of first place.
It is the de facto language of the western world and internet though.

>>184168113
again?

>>184168225
If you want minimum size, split the terrain into chunks, like 32x32x32 or some arbitrary size, and use run-length encoding to compress that chunk into a much smaller string of data.

RLE works really well because voxel terrain generally has a lot of repeating values.

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Ludum Dare Theme
Running out of power

>>184168436
Only one anon answered my two questions last thread, that's not enough data.

>>184160354
There are open source voxel things out there and not hard to find. You could take a peek into how they do it (and trivially test if they're actually doing it well).

>>184168195
>running out of power is a setting
Is this a bait?
Even if the theme were a setting are you such a brainlet that a setting wont inspire mechanics?

>>184168113
pew pew and bap

however if you intend to have the player shooting constantly I would very strongly suggest no firing sound at all

>>184168584
Two anons*

>>184168501
ok im actually glad those other positive score themes didn't win

>>184168406
>If you count non-native speakers, it's still ~100 million short of first place.
Huh, you're right.
Although English-speakers are still more likely to have the money and technology required to buy video games.

>>184168501
Those are all pretty bad

>>184168501
>absolutely nobody wants to make Fez 2

>>184167992
>>184168406
>>184168735
English and spanish are easy languages anyway, chinese is the only problem

>>184168113
Pew Pew, it sounds like a pulse to me. Plus the tsew tsew one sounds like a call of duty ballistic gun

I can't say for the hit sounds, tat wasn't great, punch was okay, I couldn't even hear bap and beep was down right annoying

>>184160973
Nice, looks awesome.
I am also working on a spelunky clone

>>184168892
>tfw german could have been the international standard
Precision and modularity > ease of learning.

>>184168225
Then you should be looking to compress the chunks, rather than unraveling them into a complex mess that will cut your framerate in half every time a player mines a block.

Here is an idea I found in 10 seconds on Google: store each modified voxel in a dictionary using its X,Y,Z coordinate as the key. If you look up a voxel at coordinate A and don't find it in the map, assume it is unmodified. This way, you store voxels relative to each other without using memory where it's unneeded.

I think another anon suggested something similar earlier, actually.

>>184169123
>>tfw german should have been the international standard

>>184168892
Chinese has pretty simple grammar, though. It hasn't got tense, gender, or number.
The writing system is pretty complex, but you could just make pinyin the standard for non-native speakers and it'd probably be a serviceable international language.

>>184169123
Esperanto is both modular and easy.

>>184169226
>>184169123
Clearly it should have been Icelandic

Anyone have a good resource for when to use what data structures? That sort of thing futzes me up every time, and going back to reformat is growing increasingly painful as my project lengthens.

>>184169409
Use a list when you want a list of things

Use a set when you want a set of things

Use a map when you want a map of things

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Anybody know whether texture size or texture number is the bottle-neck resource wise in UE4?
I.e which one is preferable if i can get away with packing them, 4 1024*1024 or 1 2048*2048 ?

>>184169559
I don't actually know anything about how long it takes to render a texture, but in terms of RAM usage, a texture with doubled dimensions should require at least 4x as much memory.
I believe a 512x512 texture is exactly 1 MB, while a 256x256 texture is exactly 256 KB.

>>184169409
It's just something you learn with time.

>>184167771
>If so, you would only need a single 8-bit or 16-bit integer with bitflags.
But node type and position are 16-bit. I don't know how it would work if I used bytes as elementary units rather than 16-bits, I don't think it would make much difference though, only I didn't think of properties when I made up my format.
If the number of bits defining the property is significantly smaller than 16 bits or a multiply, I can just split the type into multiple types rather than use properties/as an addition to the properties.

>>184168452
>split the terrain into chunks
That's what I'm already doing. My chunks are 16x64x16 btw. ;)
And I also store only some of those 16x64x16 chunks, see >>184163818

>Run-length encoding
May help, thanks.

>>184169124
>Then you should be looking to compress the chunks, rather than unraveling them into a complex mess that will cut your framerate in half every time a player mines a block.
The complex mess would work better than most compression and it can be further compressed. With what I want to do here >>184165921 (send literally everything to the server and back) will cut the framerate much more if I don't minimize the size of the chunks.

If you think this is a problem, then why not just use the complex mess to store the data on disk and send it via network but store them in RAM converted to the conventional but more spacious array with coordinates as the key? You would probably do the same with normal compression anyways: decompress before usage and compress for storage.

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Skillboard now works finally

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>>184169820
Like i mentioned, its either 1 big(with 4 packaged related images that will be used in the same material) or 4 small. Ofcourse a smaller texture takes up smaller space, but if i remember correctly there's more going on than the overhead associated with more textures.

>>184169124

>Here is an idea I found in 10 seconds on Google: store each modified voxel in a dictionary using its X,Y,Z coordinate as the key. If you look up a voxel at coordinate A and don't find it in the map, assume it is unmodified. This way, you store voxels relative to each other without using memory where it's unneeded.
That's what I'm doing except I'm using the voxel type as the key. This allows me to do >>184163818 to reduce space further.
And I'm also using a simple 1D array as a dictionary because I managed to make the keys and the values have equal sizes.

>>184169993
Welp. Good to know my pain now is saving me more that I would have suffered later in my programming career.

>>184159729
That tree world is gorgeious, did you make it?

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I'm an artist, how do I meet up with a programmer to make games together?

>>184171125
Yeah, square made the tree model though.

>>184171130
maximum shitposting

>>184171130
Post your art/portfolio, what you want to draw/what you're good at drawing and an email to contact you at.

It's that easy.

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>>184170325
Slimedev will you have cute mimic? I like mimics!

>>184169007
Nice! Screenies?

>>184171130
Sell art, make some reputation.

When you are know enough send portifolio to game making communities.

If you are good enough however just a post will bring people. Depends a little about your fares however.

>>184171338
Still very nice :D

>>184171442
maybe

>>184170583
>I'm using the voxel type as the key
There is absolutely no reason you can't map by coordinates. It would make finding neighbors trivial

>>184170218
>But node type and position are 16-bit.
Don't save position inside the node. Inside, store each node in a map using its position as a key. You can still use your cuboid compression system here, if you ever find an algorithm for it.
That means you only need 16 bits (a short), to save the type. Since the coordinates are the same for every chunk, the client will simply iterate over every coordinate in each chunk to check if the block there differs from the procgen block.
If (IF) you do need to save properties besides the type, you should try to reduce them to booleans so you can save them as bitflags inside a single 8-bit or 16-bit integer.

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Next enemy I'm working on, since he has more frames than the other one I want to do. His left leg is a bit messy, so I'll have to fix that.

>>184171890
make a 1 or 2 frame pause between each step

>>184171890
Why does he wear plastic?

Anyone have a good method of doing hitstop in Unity? Is it good to have the whole game free with timescale for a certain amount of frames? Or are there better methods?

>>184172545
>unity

hope my (You) made you waste time

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C++ is the language of G*d

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>>184172758
Wrong

Finished the song! From Mexico, dairectury to you. Already working on another one.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0N03GZaPrtM

>>184172851
>802x854
Please tell me it's not more than 16 colors.

>>184172908
>gxscc

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>>184172504
Does it look like plastic?
I'm trying to maintain the same art style.

>>184172758
every dev using C++ will fail including that little anime slut

>>184172908
Which software do you work in.

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How do you make a fucking huge pit of spikes without bogging down the scene with possibly thousands of objects?

>>184173071
Which explains why it's an industry standard used for the vast majority of triple A games.

>>184173071
t. unity

>>184173497
Makes the spikes a single object.

>>184173497
Instanced rendering?

lol jk unitybabby

>>184173497
Make spikes using a shader

>>184173045
He looks like a purple stormtrooper.
The king at least has absplate, but the purple knight has completely flat panels. I guess the highlight is the main offender here.

>>184173115
Guitar Pro 5

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Reminder that a good main character will carry your game.

>>184173497
I think placing those with the grass tool instances for you.
You can also combine the meshes, there are a couple ways.

>>184173497
The same way you don't use individual models for every blade of grass.

>>184173857
Good luck and fly safe.

>>184173912
A good side-kick as well.
Only reason i managed to trudge through Dust: AET

Palette swapping vs unity?

>>184173805
Alright. Fixing it right now.

>tfw I remembered how I fiddled in Guitar Pro when I was 15
shit, time flies.

>>184173960
Thanks mate

>>184173045
I ike the color palette a lot. Great design

>>184174129
I think that anon meant to reference this: >>184171890

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This is basically what a human looks like, right?

>>184174937
i hope someone has been saving all the babbysfirstmodel.blends that get posted here over the years

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>>184174045
This too. Fidget a cute.

>>184175257
Fidget was an anomaly, then again the blacksmith qt was alright as well.

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I spent a little too long on this pot plant.. but it's a nice pot plant.

>>184176101
it is pretty nice.

>>184176101
you abuse circles

>>184172708
fuck off nodev

the engine shouldnt matter unless the dev lets the engine's faults impact the game

let the game stand on its own and then critique it

>>184176506
Name 3 good unity games

>>184172908
dude GXSCC is trash. get deflemask or inject your music into GBA roms like i'm doing.

>>184176723
the tutorials, I've seen them remade and published countless times

>>184173045
not sure this will help, but maybe make his highlights brighter. metal has high reflectivitiy, lower reflectivity will feel less shiny and maybe non metalic as a result.

i like your designs though.

>>184176101
this is nice pot plant

for real though

tell me why you wouldn't play a game written in esperanto or a similar language

>>184176101
Made a 4chan account just to tell you that this is - indeed - a nice pot plant

>>184177279
Well, I would, but that's because I know a little Esperanto.
Most people don't.

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>>184176723
oddworld new n tasty
superhot
parkitect

also, kerbal space program, subnautica, verdun, jazzpunk, cities: skylines, and huniepop are a respectable list of others. hover: revolt of gamers if that's your thing.

>>184177352
We all know a little esperanto.
>>184177279
It would have to be a game where the dialogue doesn't matter.

>>184177514
no
awful
>early access RCT clone

Cities Skylines was really Unity though?
>HP
>good
good lord you have shit taste

>>184177632
No, I do not

Normal people do not

>>184177737
I didnt play huniepop nor is it a genre I enjoy, but I can't say it isn't well-made

Parkitect is a lot of fun and plays like classic RCT1/2, nothing wrong there early access or not.

>>184172545
Yeah, Timescale works. Remember to make it framerate-independent by using time.unscaledDeltaTime or a coroutine with "yield return new WaitForSecondsRealtime"
https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Time-unscaledDeltaTime.html
https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/WaitForSecondsRealtime.html

>>184177875
>I didnt play huniepop nor is it a genre I enjoy, but I can't say it isn't well-made
>i didnt play it but from the trailers and sparse youtube clips i know its a good game
(You)

>you can't create an array of classes with generics in java
fuck this garbage language

>>184177632
>We all know a little esperanto.
Ĝi ne aspekti la angla lingvo.
Pli aspekti la hispana lingvo.

I had to look all those words up but at least I remembered the grammar.

>>184178543
>an array of classes
nani?

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Getting pickups from enemies is feeling pretty good, each enemy dropping either nothing or just one thing but that one thing having good value seems to be the the way to go. Still lack the picking up fx to finish it though.
Now back to UI for a bit.

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>>184178649
FUCK me I forgot the accusative case.

>>184178649
I think anyone who's learned a little romance language or even knows latin roots can puzzle out the nouns

>>184163752
she's cute though

>>184178743
keep it up, you are a shining bastion of progress.

>>184178743
Will Knight have happy ending? I don't want Knight to be sad. Nobody should have to feel pain.

>>184178892
Some of the roots are pulled from English and German, with a handful taken from Slavic languages and thus totally unintelligible to Western Europeans, and a lot of the compound words (which is most of them) are only obvious once you know what they mean. For example, "prison" is "malliberejo," which is literally "not-free-place."
Plus, the accusative case will throw any English speaker with no experience outside Romance languages for a loop.
Oh, and the tabelvortoj are totally unintelligible until you actually put the time in to learn them.

That said, the language is extremely easy to look up, since the grammar is simple and largely intuitive for English speakers and there's an abundance of resources for vocabulary online.

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>>184127869
Thanks, anon, I love it. Do you mind if I put it on my blog latter? I want to make a small collection with all the fanart I have.

>>184179238
In the end Knight wakes up and discovers it was all a dream, the tittle "Good day Knight" fades-in on the middle of the screen hyping up the player to the next game where the Knight is actually awaken.

>>184179743
I'm okay with this if Knight had a good dream and was happy

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I'm trying to use an object file exported from blender to create some attribute arrays for webgl. For some reason edges between different parts of the texture are coming out wrong. I'm not doing anything special in the fragment shader.

Does anyone know why this is happening?

>>184176770
Thanks for the advice, I will look into that.

What does it cost to just hire someone to fucking make my game.

>>184181115
100k + 60% royalties.

>>184181115
give me $40k for every years of work and i will take care of it for you.

>>184181115
Real pros work for a discount on the finished product.

>>184181312
That sounds good.

>>184181115
I bet some fucking neet would do it for $1000 a month

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Anyone want to help me test my game?

>>184181810

I bet i could knock that down if i promise sex.

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>>184182004
If anyone wants to play this, it can be downloaded here:

>https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B3kuKBM9RCkOazV6OGxRRFMyOUk

I haven't done any encryption yet, so don't use real passwords when creating a player. Also, if you wouldn't mind, please let it keep running after you get bored, because I'm mainly testing the networking engine to see if I should keep going in the direction of an MMO. I'm sitting by the server, so if I see you log in, I'll walk you through some of the areas, if you like.

>>184182327
post dic

>>184165276
its weird that there's very few hitman clones in general. there is so much potential content with the assassination genre

>>184167798
Do you still have the source?

>>184182937
True stealth games are dead, the average nu-gamer just wants to go in guns blazing.

>>184183049
i think hitman (sorry, HITMAN™) was a step in the right direction (especially after the abomination that was Absolution and disregarding technical issues). The game rewarded stealth much more than action. Not as good as blood money but I think it was definitely a good step.

otherwise yeah real stealth games are a dime a dozen. its kinda a good thing though since you can make a stealth game and scratch a niche without worrying of oversaturation like platformers are fps games.

>>184183282
platformers or* fps games. my bad

>>184182937
reviving a niche genre is how you make guaranteed money as an indie

all the fucking retards making platformers and roguelikes is why "hurrdurr indie is so hard" - just make a single harvest moon game and you generate 30 million dollars

find your niche and go for it

>>184183282
I'm fairly new to gamedev, if I wanted to make one what would be the best choice of engines to start with for 3d? Since I'm new tutorials specifically for this would be neat.

How many lines of code should an engine be for it to be considered good?

>>184183282
>otherwise yeah real stealth games are a dime a dozen
Uh, I think you have that phrase backwards. It means "very common."

Also, while they've buffed 47's health to a truly absurd level since release, in Professional difficulty you get instakilled by shotguns and SMGs, so guns blazing is simply not an option. However, I haven't played enough of Professional to decide if it's legitimately difficult or just a bunch of overtuned variables.

>>184183450
I'd suggest Unreal, but I don't think you should start with a stealth game as the AI requirements are pretty steep.

>>184183758
And people say stupid questions don't exist. Jesus christ.

>>184183758
5

>>184183758
Depends on how many lines you have in your OS.

>>184178109
as someone who spent way too much time in huniepop, despite how you like the game itself, it has very very good production value

"If you hear a voice within you say 'you cannot gamedev,' then by all means gamedev, and that voice will be silenced." - Vincent Van Gogh

>>184185219
>taking advice from a crazy robot who cut his ear off to impress a womeme

>>184184238
20,000. How 'bout them apples, niggermonkey.

>>184183450
I'd suggest Unity because it has better documentation. (It's easier to learn)
I'm no expert, though.
Both engines have their quirks, and things their users hate, but they're both capable of pretty much anything you want to do as long as you put the time in and want to learn.

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>>184182425

>>184178743
are you basing that knight on the one from Wizards & Warriors?

>>184181810
fuck you I'll do it for half that
no seriously that would at least double what I make in a month, I would happily work for that much

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>>184185551

http://www.strawpoll.me/13564695
http://www.strawpoll.me/13564695
http://www.strawpoll.me/13564695

Important poll

>>184185858
I keep a massive long-term and short-term to-do list, and just do the things I feel like doing. Any time I want to tackle a long-term task, I break it down into smaller tasks

I don't think that fits into any of those categories

>>184185858
Just use one of the gits' issue boards.

>>184185858
I got todo lists and a rough design document

Have there ever been any succesful 1ma enginedevs?

>>184186454
lolisim

>>184185858
Daily and weekly to-do lists are highly important, and help keep motivation and determination high since it feels good to cross something off the to-do list.
As for the overall game design I have a google doc where I keep a rough draft of the overall idea of what I want the final game to be like, and some of the systems I want. Since it's a google doc I can just add to it whenever and wherever I am if I get any new ideas.
For the finer details of how a system works though I usually figure that out as I'm devving it.

>>184185858
none of these
I keep some general ideas and design goals and then break them down in more detail once I get around to developing them.
basically this >>184186298

>>184186454
Notch

>>184186582
>implying notch made the infiniminer engine

>>184186616
>these goalposts would look way better right over there, don't you think

>>184186582
Notch isn't an enginedev, he used a bunch of babby frameworks.

>>184186761
what

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>>184185743
Also, there's soccer.

>>184186454
Overgrowth

>>184186616
>>184186905
>changing the definition of a one man army so it means enginedev

enginefags make me sick

>>184186905
tying frameworks together is enginedev

>>184187375
its literally the opposite.

>>184187218
>1ma
One man army, aka One human working on it.
There are several examples of team enginedevs, but none to few 1ma enginedevs.

Here's a real treat for you guys, one of the first games me and friend made years ago. It's a new experience totally unlike anything you've seen before. Just looking through old files and thought my fellow /agdg/bros deserved to play this hidden gem. Do NOT spam space and do NOT click the crickets. Right click crafting bench after placing it.
https://mega.nz/#!xmhVBTCT!Z5zVDOpse8xJZ31RRvkNvNipSh6tH2uMp_o6Y2weD24

>>184160973
I like the bomb spamming, just add self damage so you can kill yourself in a bombing frenzy. The character and rope animation are very good also!

>>184187665
Nah, I'm not gonna download your virus. But good luck.

>>184187665
>no screenshots or webms
shant be downloading that buttcoin miner

>>184160896
Look up sparse array/matrix and apply it to 3d. Or divide the world in buckets to avoid allocating for all the empty space.

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>>184187738
>>184187763
I just thought you guys deserved to laugh at my awful terraria clone.

>>184187569
>>184186454
Dwarf Fortress.

>>184188161
2ma

>>184186454
Cave Story

>>184188161
Toady has a brother you melon

>>184188220
pixelshit doesn't count

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>>184183041
Sure do. I could upload it for you if you'd like.

>>184188345
You don't count.

>>184188345
>goalposts
>thinking all pixel art is pixelshit

oh (You)

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Almost all NPCs have Tattle dialogue now

>try to cap somethign with OBS
>windows goes ape shit and start a bunch of random service, my cpu goes fro m15% to 100% instantly
cant even make a fucking 5 sec video without lag from obs, what the fuck

>>184189521
Isn't that dialogue box a bit too big?

Looking for an artist? Look no further. Tell me about your game so we can start working together.

WARNING
Memes have been detected in this sector
Proceed with caution

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>>184189824
Wanna' work on mine? It's an MMO, and we have great need of level designers. Get the client I posted above and we can talk in game.

>>184188219
>>184188297
His brother doesn't do any coding. He just helps with design and fulfilling donation rewards.

An recommendations for Lua book?

>>184189824
I am interested but first, what pencil grade do you use?

>>184189812
He's a big bettle warrior, so he needs a big text box

>>184190625
also, can you fix the 'y'? It has a weird line underneath it

>>184189824
post your work first

>>184160973
Jasozz? Did you literally just change games again?

>>184188359
I'd like that, if you don't mind.

>>184190042
Looks pretty interesting. What engine are you using?

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To the anon who replied to my post the other day about finding grid regions - finally got a pretty flawless placement system going. If you want to have a look at my shitty code an judge me let me know. Now to find a way to rotate and stack items without getting fucked in the ass

>>184191295
>rotate
save yourself and the player the trouble and don't let them rotate items.

>>184185858
I have a "design document" but it's really a to-do list, with varying levels of urgency and vagueness

>>184191501
nothing wrong with rotating items

>>184191501
this
it's absolutely not worth the effort, and it's completely unnecessary as long as your items are rectangular (which they absolutely should be)
just design your item dimensions with the overall grid dimensions in mind

>>184191501
but that's the whole point of inventory tetris.
inb4 >inventorytetris
I ran a strawpoll 3 times on /v/ and people's favourite inventory system out of all the resident evils was unanimously RE4 by a mile every time

>>184183450
i always recommend unity since its pretty easy to learn. however like another anon said i would not recommend starting with a stealth game as the ai can be really complicated unless your game has an instant game over for when seen

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>>184190710

Although I'm not that anon, thanks for pointing out the y thing! Definitely fixing it.

>>184191653
>favourite
more like it's the only one they can think of from their tiny little brain.

>>184184001
>Also, while they've buffed 47's health to a truly absurd level since release
i swear it wasnt this bad since the july update (or maybe it was june). i read that they essentially buffed his health and reduced enemy damage and shots per second. professional is pretty much how the difficulty was before from what ive read (still havent played around with professional yet to say for certain)

>>184191653
>but that's the whole point of inventory tetris.
no it's not
the point of inventory tetris is to limit your inventory space in a way that treats weapons and armor separately from consumables
it's not actually supposed to be a tedious minigame that wastes your time every time you pick up a new item

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Waypoint flight and thrusters (there's a reverse one you can't see). Definitely needs visual retros to sell the ship's micro-adjustments.

I need to work on capturing that slow, hulking feeling that Nexus nailed. I have a feeling it's mainly very slow accelerations (which I'm already using) + a lot of shit in the background to give you a better sense of scale.

>>184191854
Yeah, it's a recent buff but I don't know when exactly. It's definitely fucking ridiculous, though.

>professional is pretty much how the difficulty was before from what ive read
Nope. I've played since the pre-release beta and Professional jacks enemy damage through the fucking roof. One burst from an SMG will kill you from full health, as will one blast from a shotgun from a few yards away.

>>184191215
Thanks, using unity. You're more than welcome to play it.

>>184192089
Not that anon (and you're falling for a classic bait here), but I'd play a demo

>>184192089
Ok. Not sure how to best put this. Ufortunately I am not interested in working with Unity at all. Good luck.

>>184191215
not interested but good luck!

>>184191885
it still does that if you can rotate them

>>184192089
Don't know if you're new or just shitposting, but anyone offering to do art here is a shitposter dropping some extremely low-effort bait. If you take the offer seriously, he'll always give a variant of >>184192181 as a reply.

>>184192245
the system already fulfills its purpose with less complexity.

>>184192035
>One burst from an SMG will kill you from full health, as will one blast from a shotgun from a few yards away.
honestly thats how the default should be imo. if npcs die from 1 or 2 shots the player should too
then again i keep forgetting they lowered the mastery requirement from 20 for professional so im probably a bit biased

>>184192245
adding the ability to rotate them is a lot of work for literally no payoff whatsoever because it doesn't improve the system in any way, it just makes it more complicated
rotating them is only necessary if the shapes are non-rectangular and the shapes should never be non-rectangular

>if an artist has preferences it must be a meme
Got it

Reminder that nobody has ever made a platformer with better controls or level design than Super Mario 64. Why aren’t one of you faggots working on something to top that game?

How complicated would it be to do a simple turn-based combat between 2 players network-wise, with unity?

Like, there's no need to sync anything, I can simply send and receive a choice and a target. Anyone has any idea what I should try to use to communicate properly? I can test via ip with myself since we have 2 laptops here

>>184192178
>>184192392
God dammit. Well, if you're interested I posted a link to download here: >>184182425

>>184192613
Someone hasn't played Ty the Tasmanian Tiger.

What's a good engine for a dad with a 12 week old daughter and can only use his laptop for 2 hours or sometimes 3 hours at night when his family is sleeping?

>>184192613
Mario 64's level design is terrible.

>>184192927
you sound almost like me, so I would go with unity, especially if you're already comfortable with using objects and C#.

>>184192927
game maker

>>184192927
Write your own engine that programs itself while you're at work.

>>184192927
Unity for 3D, gamemaker for 2D.

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I prefer autistically replaying games and minmaxing more than I enjoy playing something new. When I play a new game I need to play it several times until I've broken the intended power curve. How do I utilize my autism for gamedev. I inherently want to restart projects and min max my workflow every week or so.

>>184193346
Make a game that's actually difficult to break by minmaxing so your fellow autists have a challenge.

>>184192981
I have experience with Unity and I sort of hate it but it's not excluded in my list.

>>184192986
I don't really want to buy a license before I can really try it without restrictions.

>>184192998
sure, let me call John Carmack and ask him for some advice and a small loan of a few million dollars.

>>184193318
Same as above.

>>184193557
game maker studio (not sure about 2) has a free version which is nearly identical to the payed version

>>184194102
>payed

>>184194128
game maker studio has been in multiple bundles at this point for dirt cheap.

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>>184193407
This own't be inherently satisfying. To elaborate let me lay out a scenario using an example most of us are familiar with using Knights of the Old Republic. You can't just make the game inherently harder and have it be satisfying because the entire point of minmaxing is when you do it correctly you can trivialize encounters that a normal player would have difficulty with during a normal playthrough. However you CAN add challenge that makes minmaxing funner and provides more options than normal but it really only works in linear games where you have to make choices during the progression that you cant backtrack.

In KotoR the primary example is holding off leveling up past your desired base class level until you get to Dantooine and immediately taking several levels in Jedi that would have been spent in a different class during a normal playthrough. Most characters are base class 6/ jedi class 14 by the end of the game but most autists are something like scoundrel 2/ jedi 18.

The catch is that you have to do the entire beginning of the game at level 2, This includes fights that are hard like the fight with Daven and the fight with the Sith Aristocrat for the blockade codes. That fight is particularly difficult because your allies are CC'd and you have to fin the fight by yourself while underleveled. You can bypass doing stuff like the arena fight with Starkiller though.

One way I can think to add cool dificulty curve and autism to the game would be to add bonus feats or skill points for doing something like defeating bendak starkiller in the arena. The reason why you wouldn't want to do a gear reward is that you want it to be a benefit that hurts to pass up. A min maxing autist can pass up non-end game gear or effects because they're irrelevant to his final scoresheet (how op his character is fully built). Early game stats only matter if there's some sort of irreversible snowballing effect that's lost.

Pic directly related.

>>184194213
No, I meant the word is paid.

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Some progress on my enemy plant. I think i'll finish the texturing tonight but I don't have enough time to do the rigging and animating unfortunately. This is for elemental knight btw.

>>184192613
Try topping it while only including the letter 'A' 0.5 times in your source code.

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>>184193346
Procedural generation. Make a game that changes the meta of your game every few hours so that it's hard to minmax. So say the enemies favor heavy armor, so you try to max out your armor pen. But then the game sees you do this, and then makes the enemies switch to favoring tankier enemies with lots of physical health. So then you switch to raw dps. But then the game starts giving enemies lots of healers to support the others. So then you focus on the healers first to take them out. But then the game sees you do this, so it equips the healers with shields, and so forth. But then you learn that the game is reacting to you. So instead of killing enemies, you start to just run past them and avoid the fights. But then the game says hold up, and now there are sorcerers with heavy CC that prevent you from just running away. So you decide to just stay in towns and level up with safer quests. But then the enemies start showing up at the town looking for you. So you feel like giving up and turning the game off. But then as you go to microwave a hotpocket in frustration, you hear a doorbell. wtf, I'm a NEET, you think to yourself, why would anyone come to visit me? You open the door...Oh shit it's a real live berzerker(female) who barges in and physically kicks your ass. You think, wait, I can still minmax this by calling 911, but then the game detects this, and as you extend your arm out to reach for your phone the berzerker(female) swings her axe and cuts off your dick. Now it's too late to call 911.

Good luck trying to minmax that game no matter how autistic you think you are.

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Is this the next wizmud?

A game about playing Morrowind

>>184194960
Is this the ugliest game ever made?

>>184194780
Min maxing for damage is low-iq. True min maxers min-max for versatility and immunities/resistances/hp/sustain.

>>184194780
I remember reading about a game that did this. Infested Planet, a RTS with an enemy mutation mechanic.

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>trying to figure out lua and c at the same time
>have no idea of basic programing workings
hahahha so funny hahahahha

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Alright, an attacking enemy finally.
what do you guys think?
my game seems to lack feedback here.
but on the other hand, most progress updates get ignored too if they can't start a shitpost war.
I should probably add mixels/rixels for that sake

>>184195384
Lua is garbage. Don't use it.

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>>184195553
cant senpai,input binding are so easily implemented i dont want to quit