/civ4xg/ - Stellaris, Endless, Civilization and 4X Games General

First for Riftborn bullying

If Amplitude made an Endless based racing game, would you play it?

>>183669094
>If Amplitude made an Endless based... game, would you play it?
Yes

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So guys I have over 100 hours in Stelaris now and I want some feedback, I cant decide what ethos I want to use as a main empire that I play.

I LOVE science in 4x games; the sound of completed research keeps me at full mast, so I'm pretty comfy with Fanatic Materialist, but I just don't know what fits the other ethos slot.

My main and favorite playstyle is to rapidly expand as quick as possible, then build up my infrastructure hard, and then expand even more, but then forcibly if need be. I don't seek fighting other empires, but if it comes to it I have absolutely no issues with dominating whoever is in my way of the slightest gain. I'd be pretty to sit in my territory playing city builder if left alone to do it but I still enjoy diplomacy and interacting with other empires, and will even hop in a federation if a good one comes along.

Point being idk what my other ethos point should be. I tried Militaristic but I don't really look for fights early game, I prefer to keep to myself and not attack till I have the tech or numbers advantage. Having militaristic kinda fucks me with that playstyle, since my factions are reeeeealy unhappy early on and give me worse outputs and unrest early game, and the continued peace makes my people form tons of anti war factions that get mad when I finally POSSIBLY go to war.

Militaristic doesn't seem to be working for me since I'm not aggressive out of the starting gate or indeed possibly all game, and I can't rely on waiting to embrace a faction later since that's not a sure thing but maybe I'm wrong about being wary of Militaristic. I also want to keep goodish relations with people and make use of good xenos, so I don't think Xenophobe would be too great either. And off course I don't want war to be off the table, so certainly not pacifist.

So with all that, whats your guys opinion of what my other ethos point should be? For anyone interested in helping me decide.

>>183669156
DUDE
SPEED
LMAO

What is the worst 4x game you've ever played and what do you think it got right?

Fucking Fallen Empire awakened and complicated my run. Once I got to your core world I will not only purge you, but I will use the fastest method to purge you from the face of the earth.

>>183670058
civ vi
nothing

>>183670248
>not using the slowest and most painful

>>183669469
Egalitarian is neat if you don't plan on using slaves.

I mainly play F. Spiritualist & Egalitarian. It's fairly nice and comfy. In relation to your issue Egalitarianism won't put pressure on you to expand through force but won't penalise you for it either. It's also not a problem for diplomacy save for Authoritarians who will probably hate you most of the time anyway and it's great for faction happiness.

>>183670602
Neutering is the most humane one. I wish there is really horrible way of killing the xeno pops, like unrestricted scientific study, which will cause a lot of mutation in the species and gives a boost to society research. Each pops purged this way can also generate a huge amount of research.

>>183671239
Processing is one of the more horrific ways I can think of.

Especially when a devouring swarm hive mind is doing with the implication that they're hunted in the streets and eaten alive

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>>183668625

>>183670058

Fallen Enchantress Legendary Heroes Elemental - and yes, the title is all those words combined, which hints at the game's quality.
It's a med-fan 4x with no multiplayer.

> What it did right
- A "city level" system that felt meaningful
- Empire-wide mana that yields decent result if you can tinker every city to fuel your main hero
- Some cool spells, some decent mechanism for territory control

> What it did wrong
Everything else, holy cow.
- No multiplayer
- An overly complicated weapon system for normal units that you never use or even stop researching
- a race that moves 50% faster than everyone else, all the time, in and out of combat, with wich you can ICS and win while playing Clicker Heroes
- No ingame encyclopedia for unintuitive stuff like "where can actually I build cities ?"
- The fact that building cities is unintuitive
- Did I meantion no multiplayer ? Who makes a 4x game with no multiplayer ? Ubisoft ?
- Mana is so scarce that 50% of all magic-related stuff is useless, like having more than one caster, ever.
- Food and city growth is clunky
- Fanatical roaming monsters ...


Still, overall it was enjoyable.

>>183672230
>Who makes a 4x game with no multiplayer ?
People who made Thea The Awakening, though that game is more roguelike tbs.

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So it turned out not to be the ideal way of starting to play Stellaris as a fanatic xenophobic militarist with no allies, having to take on the entire galaxy at once when they formed one huge alliance in mid-game.

Does anyone have critical advice on how to not get completely wrecked in a war?

>>183674665
build more ships. Is this your first game of stellaris?

>>183671452
I vasselised some chumps in 2216 as a Fanatic Purifier. Integrated, but couldn't go full purge instantly because the unrest was too high, so went with neutering. Resettled some of my pops (giant centipedes) on each of their mammalian world so I'd still have the planets afterwards, then built up enough armies and after about 20 uears I turned to processessing.
I imagined that that "Nice Mr Hundredlegs" who had moved in next door and lived there for 20 years suddenly crashed through the walls and started tearing them apart to eat their brains.

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Never seen this happen before. For some reason i thought they would liberate it instead.

>>183674819
>Integrated
>as fanatic purifier
wut

>>183674925
I needed their ships more than I needed their planets.

>>183674997
but you can't vassalise or integrate for that matter as a fanatic pufirifer

>>183675025
Apparently you can, cos I did.
Never played a Purifier before so idk if this is unusual

>>183674768
Yes it is.
I'm currently at my naval capacity (245), a bit over even. But still the AI has superior tech, a greater capacity although being only half as big as my empire. Actually I'm not sure if it's still mid-game or already late-game. I have 6 planets colonized, two vassals and a strike force of 22k. My ships are all upgraded, I get like 70 points of each science.

Is there a way to make your vassals attack? They usually sit on their 10k asses while at war, letting me do battles.
Also, how come a rival of mine can send their fleets flying through my empire? Is that a bug?

>>183675098
what year is it?
>245
is shit, build more and upgrade spaceports, build them literally everywhere you can
>AI has superior tech and capacity
this should never happen, you can fall behind on one and be fine, but both and you're fucked. It's not a fallen empire is it?
>make vassals attack
no, you can't do shit with vassals, they are completely independent except in regards with war
>rival
you might have open borders but I thought rivalling automatically closes them, not sure why

>>183675092
fuck, sorry you can, but it purges them automatically. Basically cleansing all systems. Been a while since I played a fanatic purifier

>>183675098
>still the AI has superior tech
I hope you're researching the debris left after battles. You can even skip technologies this way. Try to hunt down the small splinter fleets ai shuffles around after you rek his main one, for more debris to research.

>>183675570
No, it's not a fallen empire. I'll try building more spaceports though, that sounds like a plan.

>>183675728
Sure I do, it got me plenty of technologies that I didn't need to research.
Still, the enemy is ahead of me in terms of tech and capacity, no matter what I do.

>>183669469

I heard that Hive Minds can be brutal for passive expansion (rapid colonization without early wars), but honestly I never actually played them.

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>>183668835
Please do not bully the Riftborn.

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tfw you are repugnant and charismatic at the same time

>>183677720

Hive mind, passive expansion

>rapid breeders, adaptive, strong, sedentary, repugnant
>ascetic, subsumed will
>warp mass drivers

Shitloads of influence and growing speed with decent mineral income

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Does anyone know of those youtube videos whereby it shows the leaders of civilization 5 drawn badly in mspaint, with really shitty version of their themes in the background? Does anyone have a youtube link to these? I have since forgotten what to search for specifically for these.

>>183678278
Search "Civ V drawings meme" or something and I'll bet you'll find it.

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>>183669094
>>183669156
>>183669972
Would you play an Endless Marina Racing game?
>Endless Tide
>with the wacky design they used for the faction ships

>>183674665
Fanatic Purifier is the only correct way to play Stellaris.

>>183674913
Well. This changes things

>>183674913
>-42 gold per turn
anon what are you doing

>>183674665
Tech doesn't matter currently. MINERALS and to a lesser extent energy is more important l. whats your Montly output?
I've only fought 2 or 3 allies at a time, but I've never seen allies coordinate. As long as your swarm of naked corvettes is greater FP than any individual doomstack, you'll crush thier fleets. The problem will be getting enough war score to take planets

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>>183683000
Or you could just never engage the enemy fleet and just take all their planets.

How to have 1M fleet power? I know I can guerrilla warfare the AI but I want to smash those AE fleets to pieces.

>>183683652
You build a lot of ships.

>>183683742
My limit is 1000. With that I can get 200k only. If I exceed it and get 1500 in total I can only have 300k. I wonder how the AE support their fleet.

>>183684150
They have a high cap.
You need to increase your cap.

>>183683000
Naked Corvettes are getting gutted in 1.8 just FYI

>>183684285
I picked the +200 perk. Still not enough.

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Is it just me or is Emperor super easy?

>>183684319
CORVETTE SPAM SHITTERS BTFO

So when are the new civs coming to Civ VI?

>>183674665
Their doomstack will keep bombing 1 of your planet wr the whole duration of war.
That means that you can fuck their systemsup in the meantime. Just make sure to have a lot of armies on your planets.

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2 EZ

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I do like how the game is vastly different depending which age you play in.

I don't like how the random map can fuck you up with that. Hello hello, nice town, you wish to buy my paper? Well, tough luck, I have no such thing.

I tried Cities : Skylines.

Frankly, it's pretty terrible. I never thought you could railroad a city-builder and make it boring, but they managed to do it.

>>183678194
Ugly as fuck, but girls like personality best.

>>183686552
So basically Hanako from Katawa Shoujo?

>>183679765
ES2 racing:
Horatio on Ferrari
Sophons on Tesla
United empire on Ural
Lumeris on Cheap truck or something about 30's mafia
Riftborn on Delorean
Cravers take bulldozer
Vodyani ride the whole damn Indian train
Unfallen just wine the race

>>183686469
>Paradox
>good
Pick one.

>>183688443
I like CK2.
I like EU4.
I like Stellaris.
Seems pretty good to me.

>>183688584
>I like Stellaris.
What do you think of the voice pack? Do you like it, or are you a sexist pig?

>>183688642
Definitely a sexist pig.

>>183688880
Then your opinion has no value. Our Lord and Saviour Wiz knows better.

>>183688880
*respectfully disagrees*

Not a bumpy bread.

>>183687427
>United empire on Ural
With warp engines powered by the will of the emperor

>>183688642
It's trash and offensive as fuck.

My entire family is militaristic, and we're not bloodthirsty faggots like that hippie Wiz think militaristic are.

>>183690162
In UE influence is actually Emperor's will.

What might happen to a civilization once they archive dominance in their galaxy? Moving to next step of existence or stagnation?

>>183691110
>Implying you find the next step of existence just because you cant grow anymore

>>183691110
They invent anime and start chilling out.

>>183691110
You build a Dyson sphere and you launch it into the intergalactic space like the mother of all colony ships

>>183691110
>in their galaxy
They pull a Ringrunner

>>183691064
How is buying things from influence even supposed to work
>Ivan, we need 3 hunters build yesterday
>but we don't have time and resources
>EMPEROR WILLS IT IVAN
>AHH MOTHERLAND
>ships are ready

>>183691668
You use the influence to get the ressources from other factions through sheer charisma.

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But...

>>183691254
Motivation and shit
>>183691329
>stagnation
>>183691374
Ringworld could be a better idea

>>183691668
Buying ships is alright because you can contrive an intermediary stage in the form of dust:
Emperor wills there be dust -> People bring dust -> Ships bought for dust.

It gets harder to imagine with buying research because other factions can't do that, even using dust.

>>183692050
The emperor wills it

>>183692273
I can't feel the emperors will in this post

>>183691668
Buying with gold makes no sense too, at least in Civilization.
>Mate, we need a stock exchange a public school and a broadcast tower in this city right now
>Yeah, for a price
>And the city that just settled this year with 1 population instantly got all the infrastructure that my old capital build up for millennium
It is not possible to build a city up from the ground within a year even with all the money in world. Things need time to build.

>>183692615
They hire chinks and they do everything fast for a little price. The quality is shit tho, and because of this specialists are always upset

>>183669469
Using Authoritarian with Extremely Adaptive means you can snowball quickly into a game-breaking advantage in fleet size.

Having Caste System with Slave & Mining Guilds means you will be drowning in minerals & food, once you start aggressively expanding you can just re-tool captured planets to being mine planets while you build energy planets with your own people, all you really need to do to stop rebellions is just stack a dozen defensive armies on a slave planet and those are cheap enough that it's not really a hassle, just make sure you leave the "able to be military" option in the default species rights and you can use the same race you're enslaving to prevent the rest of the race rebelling.

>>183670058
>What is the worst 4x game you've ever played and what do you think it got right?
Master of Orion 3

That it was so old that it didn't have any bullshit online activation which meant I was able to swap with some rube for Civ 3.

WHEN ARE THE NEW CIVS COMING FOR VI???

>>183686469
>I have no imagination and a comfy city builder just isn't for me.

>>183693469
Hi Wiz.

>>183691946
But Ringworlds dont come with a star, with a Dyson sphere you literally take your sun and fuck off.

>>183684319
Allegedly. Whenever 1.8 happens

>>183693654
>Hi Wiz.
No, you're the Wiz, Wiz.

>>183693114
Soon.

>>183693114
Never.

>>183691668
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjrlTMvirVo
whenever emperor's will is used, zelevas makes a visit like this to grease the gears

>>183699062
Holy shit I didn't know Putin had such a faggy voice

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>>183699062
>>183691668

>>183699727
УДAЛИ ЭTO

>>183700474
>google trad suggests "mongolian"
>gave this
Ok

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Anybody ever play this ancient dos 4x? Tempted to make some let's plays of it on youtube. It got so many things right despite not paying attention to balance at all.

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>>183700107

>>183701895
Some folks here play it but I doubt you'd get much views.

>>183701895
I play it, once in a while.
Don't expect any views, the computer I use to play it won't be online for one week.

>>183701895
I played it, but I didn't read the manual and subsequently sucked. Also I don't remember it being for DOS, but maybe it was.

And before you make a let's play, try gassing yourself.

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>>183685641
>>183685207
>>183684680
All the Sierra builders are super easy. Pretty but no challenge. It's part of the reason why they died as a genre: now there's plenty of pretty stuff to compete for attention.

>>183704328
I was a bit disappointed, my father has been playing Caesar 3 for fucking years, meanwhile I managed to get a town running in Emperor in less than a week and make an insane amount of dosh.

I had high hopes for Cities Skylines, but the amount of railroading pisses me off.

>>183691668
>>EMPEROR WILLS IT IVAN
>>AHH MOTHERLAND
>>ships are ready
It's literally how the USSR worked. When the bosses demand you deliver the goods and threaten you with GULAG if you fail then the workers can achieve miracles of invention and improvisation.

>>183704546
Yes, we all remember how Chernobyl went.
>most of construction materials sold on the black market
>most people working there had no idea what to do
>most of relief aid send to Chernobyl after the Catastrophe immediately left the area immediately after arriving while the officials made a lot of money and people starved
Why retards continue to worship Communism is beyond me.

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>>183704524
>railroading
What do you mean by this? Because I do not think we will agree on the definition of this word in context. Skylines is pretty freeform. The problem of it for me is that it is entirely about traffic management. Which I imagine is a good lesson for aspiring urban engineers but it's no basis for a fun vidya.

>it's the two units you got from your main quest can't be upgraded episode
AMPLITUUUUDE

Is i just me, or is a science government so fucking powerful?

-20% industry costs is basically +25% industry when not building ships, and the "skip shit techs to get the better techs for cheaper" is amazing, due to how much additional techs slow down your tech research abilities.

>>183704712
>Implying Chernobyl isnt the tightest shit that happened in the last century

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Is anyone else hyped for this game?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRlbeeBlWSA

Is this even the right thread? It's sort of a city builder type

>>183705137
Well it gave us a genre defining FPS level so I can't disagree

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>>183705195
>Is this even the right thread? It's sort of a city builder type
We do anything for a bump. But that looks more appropriate for the German Game General.

>>183705195
>Is this even the right thread
We're functionally "manage large groups of people from an abstract perspective on PC" Games general so sure.

>>183705434
/mlgopfaapoPCg/ is my favorite general.

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>>183704712
>Chernobyl
Is actually a perfect example of
>THE PARTY WILLS IT, THERE WILL BE SUCCESS!
in the treatment of the aftermath.

Remember the heroes who went into the radioactive reservoirs to drain them and prevent a thermal explosion? http://www.upworthy.com/you-probably-dont-know-their-names-but-30-years-ago-they-saved-europe

Remember the 400,000 liquidators who built the sarcophagus in a matter of weeks? Meanwhile Fukishima still hasn't been contained even with Japanese work ethic and robots.

>>183705195
>play the video
>the accent
I am not surprised at all. It'll be interesting to see how it develops though.

>>183705716
It scares me that parts of Fukushima are so dangerous not even robots can survive.

>>183705734
I also enjoy Transport Fever Should I just become Swede?

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>>183705434
>large groups of people
How large is large? Does King of Dragon Pass qualify? It should.

>>183705825
Meh it'll recover. Hiroshima and Nagasaki did.

>>183705716
>The medal is a blood drop crossed by the three types of radiation
10/10 would get massively irridiated for.

>>183706301
The green part on the left one glows in the dark.

Yeah, Russian humour and/or lack of self-awareness is that brutal.

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>>183706552
Stalin was a master of dark humor

>>183700107
>stay at work because Emperor Zelevas is waiting for you at home
>productivity rockets

>>183706124
>comparing Hiroshima/Nagazaki with Chernobyl or Fukushima
Don't be a baka senpai.

>>183706552
Jesus Christ.

>>183705716
Anyone else read Voices From Chernobyl? one of the stories there was from a guy who's job was finding and killing animals in the area and then dumping them into a mass grave. I think because the fur would carry the radiation or something.

>>183705075
Guys?

>>183705716
Party proved themselves to be the biggest assholes 2bh.
Shit happened at 26 of April, and on 1st of May there were supposed to be marches of people in big cities. And so then someone suggested to cancel them cause of radioactive dust spreading, party went full retard and forced marches to that everything is ''''ok''''.
Also beneath 2 sarcophages there is a Mi-8 helicopter with crew, which crashed then they were dropping sand on reactor.

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>>183708043
>with crew

>>183708043
>Party proved themselves to be the biggest assholes 2bh.
Oh yeah, I'm not denying that. If incompetent leadership didn't cause the accident in the first place there would be no need for self-sacrificing efforts on a colossal scale to mitigate the consequences of the disaster.

>>183706915
Granted I'm not a scientist but I would think a nuclear explosion and nuclear fallout would be worse than some meltdown.

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>>183708329
>I would think a nuclear explosion and nuclear fallout would be worse than some meltdown
Nuclear bombs don't have a lot of fuel. And what little they have is used up in the explosion. So """comparatively""" little radiation is released. A nuclear reactor is full of fuel and is constantly operating. So if the reactor containment gets breached, shitloads of radioactive particles are released in the atmosphere.

>>183708216
Well,as far as I know it was station personnel fuck up which caused everything.

>>183708329
Both nuclear bombs exploded mid air, causing a shitload of nuclear debris to be dispersed instead of staying in the earth and polluting it.
Plus, only 2 pounds of uranium and plutonium actually reacted inside of the bombs. You are looking at TONS of nuclear fuel escaping when a nuclear plant goes boom.

>>183708872
Chernobyl was not the only nuclear catastrophe in USSR
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyshtym_disaster

>>183708623
>>183708927
Fair enough. Makes sense.

>>183704887
>What do you mean by this?
I mean that you can't build a fire station or even parks directly when the game start.
And I'm getting pretty pissed at that, because of the Sierra games, I got the habits of being mindful of the gardens 'n' shiet, but in Cities, I can't even see how big they are. And they're FUCKING HUEG.

>>183705716
I remember how they were treated as heroes by the Party but as pariah by the people.
I read Svetlana's book, they were only heroes in newspaper. No retirement money, not even respect.

>>183704942
Is the hero within the boundaries of your territory?

>>183709886
Obviously. It only happens with units you get from quests.

>>183709783
>I read Svetlana's book, they were only heroes in newspaper. No retirement money, not even respect.
I guess that makes sense, you don't want to celebrate too hard the guys who are The Heroes Dying From Radiation Because We Fucked Up On A Massive Scale.

>>183710139
That, but there were rumors that they could poison you by touching you.

Think of all the retards in Africa thinking that albinos people can cure AIDS. It's like that. The Soviets are always walking a thin line between witch-hunting and very advanced science.

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>>183682530
It's ok, i redistributed their wealth a bit.

>>183709783
>>183710139
They got their retirement money tho,and got their privileges. But it was in soviet union. In ex-soviet countries government still pay them liquidator pension, or something like this, but tend to forget about them.

>>183711351
While SOME post-soviet nations fail with payments most provide them dutifully.

Wanted to play some Stellaris but steam is acting weird.
Anyone else having problems?
It seems to be really laggy.

>>183711351
They still got their pension nowadays. Also, people from regions that were close to containment zone are getting some small money too. Still, the Chernobyl was a massive clusterfuck of people incompetence, party bullshittery and literally burying the catastrophe with liquidators' bodies.
t. Russian nuclear industry engineer

>>183711731
Something seems to be wrong with Steam right now. I also am experiencing heavy lag.

>>183711492
That's my point.

>>183705949
In interested, but I don't know if I'm 9.99 interested.

>>183712691
It's not worth it. The decision->consequence part of that game is basically totally random.

>>183712691
go torrent it, it's literally just a choose your own adventure visual novel with some randomization.

>>183691668
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soft_power

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>>183691864
>Diplomatic dragons
>Win the game by shitting out influence and being friends with everyone
>AI completely refuses to do it

>>183714376
i've seen the AI force truces sometimes

the drakken are actually pretty damn fun to play from behind, because as long as you have influence and you can identify who's on top you can force everyone to ally with you and then mob the dude, forcing truce once you knock them down a peg

Can somebody explain me how to get into enigmatic fortress?
Curators are blabbing some nonsense about entering while it is in shutdown

>>183708329
>nuclear fallout would be worse than some meltdown.
Holy shit how clueless can you be?

Even if you're not exactly smart all you'd have to do is look at Hiroshima, then Look at Chernobyl.

>>183714889
Read the wiki

>>183714889
>Curators are blabbing some nonsense about entering while it is in shutdown
Shoot fortress until it shuts down.
>Curators imply that fortress will repower if given too much energy
Don't give too much energy when trying to enter.
>Curators meme about towers of hanoi
Re-arrange the rings on the 3 sticks.
>Curators post lolcats about dark matter and fortress' construction.
Need to supply your own dark matter or check out the fortress's system for how the fortress was constructed.

>>183714656
That does sound like a good time, actually. Might give it a shot.

>>183715327
>pay curators 3k energy
>they meme on you
I was hoping there was a way in that doesn't require a 30k fleet. Thanks anyway

>>183715327
Why are there two curator fortresses? Is there any difference between the two?

>>183715765
definitely my favorite high-difficulty faction simply because of the fact that your own strength is directly related to how many non-necrophage factions you have enough influence to bend to your will

remember to keep your units alive as much as possible, though; they've got stupidly high hp units, but they drop off pretty quickly if they can't get levels

>>183716030
They're the same, but the wraith is strong enough to kill an enclave so it's good to have a backup.

>>183669156
>If Amplitude made a game, would you play it?
Yes

dust

>>183703668
>he hates let's plays

Don't hate the player, my nigga, hate the game. How the fuck else are you supposed to quickly check out a game without going through the trouble of buying and/or downloading it?

>>183720403
>he likes having an underage laughing to his own jokes for 15 minutes before FINALLY starting the game and wasting 20 minutes to be scared of a door that opened by itself

>>183720673
Oh god. I didn't mean that. Yes, those guys are mouthbreathing autistic fags and that's not how I'd do it.

It would be more like me just explaining my thought process while I play. If I'm good at the game it would function as a sort of guide. There's a guy I like who does HOMM2 Let's Plays called TheKnownWorld/MeKick - I'd be doing stuff similar to him.

>>183720673
>He watches DSP

>>183720846
Oh, that. That would work, I guess. Jamall's LP of XCOM and that guy who plays Dominions 4 and explains everything he does are also good.

>>183720856
I was more thinking of Pewshitpie or Markiplier, but that does sound like DSP. Is that asshole retired yet?

>>183720673
I'm starting to wonder if you are not actually retarded.

>>183721173
Of course I'm not retarded.

Sins of a Solar Empire: Trinity is on sale. How is this shit?

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>>183720673
lets plays are a legitimate way of checking out a game before you buy it.
also, there are thousands of people doing them so you can find one that has a voice and style that you enjoy.
stop being a dumb nigger that hates on legitimate methods of distributiong knowledge and fun.

>>183721618
Rebellion is okay. Don't know the others.

>>183721056
Oh, nice. I should do some XCOM playthroughs, I love that game - maybe openxcom with some cool mods (always loved the one that game you the turbo grenade nuclear pack which blew up most of a level)

I actually already started my channel to test some stuff out but have only been doing roguelikes so far rather than 4x.

>>183721738
Is it 4x or more RTS?

>>183721861
Oh, sorry. I meant that Jamall (or Jemall) made a LP of the new XCOM. Or is it written X-COM?

Pretty famous for being in Impossible, Ironman, and without losing a single man.

>>183721997
Neo X-com Impossible Ironman without losing a single man? I'm going to have to check that out, I'm dubious. I tried several impossible ironman runs on there and it seemed massively massively rng luck based

>>183721958
A bit of a mix between them.
A 4x that plays like a RTS, with still the explore, expand, exploit and exterminate like Master of Orion and such, but all in real time.

It lacks a bit in depth (spying is limited and 80% of the game is about blowing stuff up with only limited interaction with the pirates), but it's pretty good on its own. Also has some nice mods.

>>183722113
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpbTkbv4L2Y&list=PLvqxe4XbcSiEzrZm28NjsLXmHkffCJmBY

My bad, it's Zemalf, not Jamall.
To be fair, he doesn't edit his videos at all, and he takes a LOT of time to plan his moves. Not to mention he doesn't show every gadget, but it's still impressive to see.

>>183721056
>I was more thinking of Pewshitpie or Markiplier, but that does sound like DSP. Is that asshole retired yet?
DSP hasn't retired yet, but its funny you mention pewdiepie cause he has retired from let's plays to pursue his true passion making edgy jokes on the internet and LARPing as a internet Nazi.

>>183724315
Good. I watched ONE video of that guy, and instantly hated him.

At least DSP makes me laugh at how retarded and shitty he is (even if I rage), but Pewshitnazi made me rage without me being able to enjoy my rage and my hatred for him.

>>183701895
It got so many things right precisely because of not paying attention to balance. It's just pure fun with experimentation and game-changing spells, none of this "+10% to damage on critical hits versus herbivores when the moon is full" impactless crap that plagues balanced games.

>>183724663
I remember hating Omerta because it did that crap. All perks you picked when levelling a characters were all "+2 to that thing".

>page 10 in 29 minutes
Slow down /vg/!

*decreases your pop*

Is there a name for Sierra's city-builder system where providing more services upgrades your houses and let you have more people living in your town?

>>183727986
Like Grand Ages or the Anno series? Where it's flow instead of discrete number of resources?

>>183728487
I don't know, I never tried these. I have no idea what you're talking about.

And there are numbers in Sierra's games. They're a bit strange but they're here. Numbers. Delicious numbers. Big, juicy numbers.

>>183728487
It's not flow, bit access to goods or services. Services are provided by walkers which Buildings generate and grant access to services forba period after they walk by. Sometimes this is a luxury that enables a wealthier pop to move in, bit they provide fire protection and structural integrity.

>>183729546
>Sometimes this is a luxury that enables a wealthier pop to move in
Well, in Sierra's games, the more services a house has access to (in a specific order), the more occupants it can have. I managed to have an entire city in Emperor relying on 10 houses that were upgraded.

>>183708927
>>183708623
Nuke plants don't actually explode though, they sort of eject high pressure material. It's not fair to compare them to an explosion when they're more like a volcano.

>>183728487
>>183729546
How's The Guild as far as city-building go?

>>183732231
It's not a city builder in any shape or form. It's a business sim.

>>183732231
I played The Guild, it's more of a family dynasty / business sim. You don't get to actually build a whole town.

>>183732623
That tickles my Jewish DNA. Is it good as far as business sim go? I tried Offworld Trading Company, it was a bit meh and clearly multiplayer.

>>183732727
Ha shit. It sounds like Crusader Kings 2. And I hate Crusader Kings 2.

I've played Civ 5 to death, Civ 6 is awful on a fundamental level, the AI in Endless Legend is so god damn bad and Amplitude won't stop pushing the water game. What do I even do now?

>>183732996
Start digging the old games. Call to Power, Alpha Centauri, Seven Kingdoms, Age of Wonders, Disciples...

>>183732996
>Civ 6 is awful on a fundamental level
But it's fine on the fundamental level. The issue is that it's still going to be underwhelming without the expansions.

>AI in Endless Legend is so god damn bad
Isn't it slightly better than Civ in general?

>Amplitude won't stop pushing the water game
You can LITERALLY ignore the water game and be just fine, unless you like playing on island maps or some shit.

>>183732773
You can be very Jew in The Guild, especially The Guild 2, the best ways to get ahead is through nepotism and clogging government with family members so you get to set all the laws while enforcing a monopoly and killing your competitors with bandits who happen to be run by your family.

>>183733509
>the best ways to get ahead is through nepotism and clogging government with family members so you get to set all the laws while enforcing a monopoly and killing your competitors with bandits who happen to be run by your family
My dick is getting hard. Keep whispering these sexy things in my ears. Can I get money? Does it make a nice, satisfying sound when I earn it? Is it fun to genocide an entire bloodline? Are there mods?

>>183733126
guuuh but they're oooooold...

>>183733478
>Civ 6
No, it's not. There are so many very basic quality-of-life features missing and so many stylistic choices that show that the devs are taking this game in a really bad direction. Not a fan of districts at all either, but that's apparently just me.

>EL AI
Not really. They spam poorly equipped units, almost never build any buildings past the era 1 basics, constantly settle cities right up against region borders, rarely use more than two of their faction units and NEVER all three...on and on, it's such a mess.

>water game
No, you can't. Water is too strong. Too many of the resources are in citadels now. You need a fleet, you NEED a fleet, or you're not going to have enough strategics and luxuries to compete. And the water game really isn't very good either.

>>183734257
>rarely use more than two of their faction units and NEVER all three
Some factions have two good units and a garbage one. There's literally never a reason to use the Cultist rider in combat, for example. And to make up for that, AI uses minor faction units.
Fair enough about the poorly equipped units, I suppose.

>You need a fleet, you NEED a fleet
Except you don't. The fortresses are nice, but they won't win you the game, unless you're Morgawr or Cult.
And on higher difficulties, if you're anywhere near other empires, you won't even have time to bother with building a fleet.

>>183729697
I was attempting to describe the Sierra games. Caesar III could he 50bmg painful at times since walkers didnt always go where you wanted them to. Pharoah was somewhat better with roadblocks. Those were the two I played.

>>183735668
Emperor is even better (simpler) because you have both roadblocks and residential walls, so you can have a residential district stuck between a smelter and a military fort without needing to spam gardens and statues.

>>183735884
Is there a Roman mod? Is it too much to ask for a Caesar game with the fun of 3, but some QoL improvments?

>>183736570
No. I know there's Caesar IV, but when I asked my father what he thought of it, he made diarrhea sound with his mouth, shrugged, and pointed at the neighbour's dog who was licking his balls.
So it was probably a bad game.

Will there ever be a good sequel to Startopia?

Or Battle Realms? Or Supreme Commander? Or Star Wars Galactic Battlegrounds?

>>183738837
no, fuck you and your nostalgia

>>183739037
>fuck you
Don't make promises to a guy who hasn't got laid in 8 years that your ass can't fill.

>>183739037
>Supremme Commander
>Nostalgia
No my dude, fuck you and everything you love to hell and back.

>>183740536
Supreme Commander was one of the best RTS ever. Planetary Annihilation is trash compared to it.

Why was Stellaris designed so fucking horribly?

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>uplift some humanoids
>check on them later
>they're fucking outraged
>turns out they're starving
And yes their leader is a fat negress.

>>183741345
for tablets

Stellaris 1.8 when?

>bought sins of a solar empire trinity
>mouse cursor jumps all over the screen
>literally can't click start

joys of pc gaming

>>183741754
Maybe don't play with a fucked up machine?

>>183721958
It's more of an RTS but on a 4X scale. So very slow paced compared to most RTS games.

>>183741754
>trinity
You dun fucked up. Rebellion is the one you should have bought.

>>183741754
take your Parkinson's meds

>>183741928
It's not on sale yet.

>>183741798
Nothing wrong with it.

>>183741979
>Nothing wrong with it.
It works on my box so obviously the problem is with whatever you've got going over there.

>>183741754
Should've bought rebellion. Disappointed in you, anon.

>>183742320
Maybe your box is like your mom's: old and can take anything.

>>183741505
Wasn't the Ai configured to only build farms?
How did this even happen?

>>183745464
I think I saw that happen once before as well.
My best guesses are either that they had something like 6 pops and 1 farm for 4 food, but everything but the second farm built.
So the AI sees it has buildings it can place pops on so pops 6-7-8 all grow with them losing food, and then it starts building the farm once the 8th pop is born (presumably spending all their minerals in the mean time on space port, defense armies, and a construction ship), and it get stuck starving which tanks the happiness and production of food and prevents more pops from growing.

The other thing I could see occurring is that it was running on two farms and two mines with the two power from the colony building, and it built the spaceport (costing 3 energy to maintain, which they can't afford) -- then they try to upgrade everything still not having a power income, runs them out of power, farms stop working, they run out of food eventually, it starts building more powerplants but never has enough happiness to produce actual amounts of things.

Wasteful and 8 pops shouldn't be more than their mineral production for basic consumer goods right?

>>183741724

>Hyperspace FTL still shit

Just this little detail left.

>>183691110
Isnt one of the late game wonders literally an omnipotent device?

>>183739252
I think he wants to fill your ass.>>183736807
I've never heard anything good about IV, which Is a shame, I was just glancing at it on YT and it's graphically appealing at least.

>>183745464
The AI is still shit. I checked in my current game, five of the six advanced AIs were starving. They had the minerals, but just didn't build farms.

The AI is even given bonus resources when they are about to run out anyway, so Paradox knows the AI is prone to self-destruction.

>>183669156
I would give my left nut for them to make an rts spin off of the space combat in ES2.

>>183748635
I want an Endless RPG. I don't even care which 'period' it goes with, Legend and Space are both fascinating settings.

>>183747980
I played IV and I had an invasion appear the other side of the river which was splitting the map in two.
I had no bridge and no money to build one so they couldn't reach me and I couldn't reach them and they wouldn't go away.
This was fun to look at, but while under siege no new citizen can migrate to my city, making the game unplayable.

>>183746787
Plus the lack of economic activity, plus the lack of meaningful diplomacy...

>>183745464
They're a vassal, so I don't think I can control their configuration.

Even so, I noticed that their number of people equaled their food production, so apparently they were stuck at 0. I gave them 4 food and now they're ecstatic.

>>183753204

>mah trades

You can trade minerals, energy, strategic resources, star charts, map view, research, access, systems, negotiate subjugation, non aggression pacts, defensive pacts and fucking federation! Just because you fags dont know how to raise your diplomatic opinion with factions it doesnt mean its not there!

>>183754282

>you can even trade resources in bulks or over time, with different quantities over different periods

>>183754282
Fix your game already, Wiz..

>>183754282

And trade enclaves for resource exchange in a 1 to 2 ratio lel.

>>183754282
>Trading systems
Not anymore

>>183685207
>>183684680
>>183685641
M-Muh childhood. Great, now the music is stuck in my head.

>>183754282
>You can trade minerals, energy, strategic resources, star charts, map view, research, access, systems, negotiate subjugation, non aggression pacts, defensive pacts and fucking federation! Just because you fags dont know how to raise your diplomatic opinion with factions it doesnt mean its not there!

Yeah, you just need to go through every empire one by one to see if they will bother to trade with you, and then see if they have what you want to trade for, and if they will buy what you want to sell.

There's a reason why the only worthwhile trading is the special merchant dudes. Because you don't have to deal with AI bullshit.

>>183754792

>see if ethos is not your opposite, or a fanatic purifier/devouring swarm/metalhead
>proceed to support independence (if hes not under threath of some big force)
>offer him research
>opinion increases
>non aggression pact
>opinion increases more
>mutual research agreement. give some resources and charts if hes more advanced
>more opinion
>trade resources at will at good prices

If his ethos or his enemies matches yours its even easier.

>>183755038

Forgot defensive pact. Thats the end game (if needed).

>>183693654
>Hi Wiz.
It's not even a proper Paradox game.

>>183754282
Diplomacy is a sham because the AI is fucking stupid. They only decide things along ideological lines and will not factor in profit or mutually beneficial deals. Also the fact that there's no wealth economy and resources are all capped so there's no benefit in trading past a certain point anyway.

>>183754282

People are mad because the AI..well... its not stupid. Its programmed to win. But since most games have shit AI and outcomes are usually one sided in the players advantage, everyone is butt mad.

>>183755038
I usually trade with megacorporations or egalitarians, they offer the best deals in general.

I trade minerals for energy to people in war because I can get something like 1.2 energy for every 1 mineral since they're so desperate for more minerals. I trade energy for minerals to factions that can't expand and aren't at war because they tend to have a glut in minerals.

It would be nice to have some kind of global mineral/energy market where I could dump my surplus and merchant ships would automatically try to find the best deals. Where prices would change depending on demand and availability.

>>183755551

Most fags here dont even play on hard or insane. They like to start shit piss easy games and play them for hundreds of years (not even aggressive AI's).

Given that the game is easy and they steamroll, the AI has the habit at some point of joining together to face the player once the player gets too strong. Thats why they cant trade anything because they are treated as hostile by default due to the wary stance of other factions.

And this is fair and well made (what else could the AI do?).

>>183756109

Thats actually a good deal for you to spam synths all over the place. 150 energy for each is kinda pricey.

>everyone agrees trade and diplomacy are fucked
>they're exactly the same as in every other 4X game
>nobody has any specific ideas on how to make them better

>>183756854

Two things missing: buying/selling ships and tech (instantly instead of research speed). But its not critical.

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That "template" tech wiz said he would add to bots. How distant in the tech tree is it?

>>183749530
I just want more endless games, I don't really care about any other details

>>183757485
You know that dust is just gold with the name changed, right?

>>183757287
It looked pretty early on from the pictures, it only cost 750 research.

>>183758181

Well, it better be. Slaves with good traits blow the fuck out of bots on tiles of 3 and above. Egalitarian mechanists need that edge because authoritarian is too fucking strong.

How good is Ai war Fleet command? Does it count as 4x? its like 2 bucks

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>>183756854
I'd make trade as the "civilian market" which would have it's own spheres of influence. Authoritarian/Xenophobe/Hiveminds would reduce it, Egalitarian and a "commercial spaceport" tile improvement would increase it. Linked civilian markets would create a larger trade pool, multiple empires with civilian markets that touch each other would have an even larger trade pool.

Could sell, buy, order (request X amount of resource and the trade pool would slowly create that resource while increasing the price due to the increased demand).

I'd make everything sellable on the civilian market, completed ships, slaves, robots, ship hulls, individual ship equipment like weapons or shields or reactors, special resources (turned into 1 resource/turn per resource, an upgraded shield or laser or hull or armor would require 1 special resource to build but it'd have it forever)

I'd change how technology worked too. Instead of researching laser-1 through laser-5, you'd research red lasers or blue lasers or green lasers or xray lasers, then improved damage lasers, or improved range lasers, or improved armor or shield penetration lasers. The basic laser types would determine the weapon's base stats, like red lasers would be good at melting armor but terrible at defeating shields, blue might go through some shield types but stopped by others, xray might go through "hard" shields but be deflected by "magnetic" shields.

The market could be used by anyone in it's influence, even pirates and rebels, so dumping 100 corvettes for sale would be a bad idea. Or good if your neighbor is having rebellion/pirate problems.

Captcha: I swear there are no spatulas.

>>183756854
The major problem with Stellaris's economic play is that every empire has the exact same industrial output and there is no commercial activity to speak of. And the industrial economy is extremely shallow because your empire isn't actually producing anything. You just stockpile resources and pay an overhead for "consumer goods" which cannot be traded or interacted with in any way, and then spend resources out of your stockpile whenever you need to build something. But there's nothing being produced by those resources, there's no industry that's consuming them in order to produce goods that your empire can then trade internally or to other empires. Of course before you could implement that you'd need a currency system so you can actually have wealth instead of just resource stockpiles. Having currency gives you a way to generate profit from trade, because then you have a reason to trade with other empires even though you don't need their resources. I.e.
>your traders exchange 1000 space dollars worth of minerals for an amount of energy credits in a foreign empire
>then they sell that same energy credits for 1500 space dollars back in your empire for profit
>your empire gets a cut of it via taxes, so the trade route generates you income
Then maybe later you can research Galactic Exchange Rates that lets you sell directly to other empires and vice versa by creating a currency exchange so you don't have to exchange goods via barter anymore.

But that's deeper play that's not possible with how shitty and simple Stellaris economy is right now.

>>183762575
Just realized I never got around to explaining using the currency system to create an actual industrial economy. Basically once you have the ability to export and import resources for commercial trade you can diversify what kind of things are produced on planets. So instead of just building a "power plant" or a "mine" or a "farm" etc you can build maybe a "domestic robot factory" that builds and then sells housekeeping robots as a commercial good, maybe you can build luxury electronics, personal transport (space cars), various artisan goods, etc. Give planets lots of local resources. Shift industrial resources to off planet, that way it feels like being in space is a vital part of the economy: that's how you get all those minerals and energy units to build and maintain your empire, but the planets where the people live is where all the shit gets made that makes your empire worth living in.

>>183756854
Trade in 4x is generally fucked because A) there's not enough resource diversity to encourage trade, B) the resources that do exist are all necessary to constructing the things you need (buildings, units, cities/planets, etc.) and C) resources are too easily manufactured in your own territory to be worth trading and are generally infinite in their ability to be produced.

If we look at why trade take place IRL it's usually due to resource scarcity/abundance in a locality, i.e. my neighbor has clay which he uses to make clay pots,I don not have clay or clay pots, but I do have iron tools while my neighbor does not, thus we must trade in order to secure the items we desire and since the production capacity is limited for both items is limited and their is a consumption rate on both products (pots break, tools get used up) we have to establish an exchange rate and a continual trade relationship to ensure that we both continue to get what we need in the amount that we need it.

4x game are notoriously bad at portraying this mostly due to point C, resources are mostly unlimited thus all you need is control of the resource generation point, no need to trade at all, and without the necessity of needing to get things from people without a costly war, there's no real point in diplomacy either. Which actually brings up another point, wars in 4x are generally not costly enough, there's rarely a significant enough penalty to dissuade one from launching a war.

>>183763109
So basically Vicky 2 in space?

>>183760503

>civilian market

What you are proposing is basically the same as a total war game, or even older, an age of empires trade example where ships or wagons would travel back and fort bringing wealth to both sides (between ports).

On practice, what happens is that both sides win a little something extra.

I dont think stellaris would implement it very well though. Im not seeing how trade routes would form. Besides, the map is filled with hostile npc's outside the initial habitable areas.

That would also be a huge xenophile ethos boost btw. Also the greater the "coalitions" or federations, the greater the income.

Sell orders would be fucking retarded. This is not eve lol.

So the gist I get is that there is no way to save trade between empires in 4e games unless you make everything super complicated.

>>183763109

You simply cant have that level of micro in stellaris. If you add "Tropico economic mechanics" the game becomes unbearable.
Stellaris is not turn based like Endless Shit. You need to be on your toes at every second. Theres a reason why there are no proper land battles there.

>>183763510

If you have a good deal of strategic resources you have plenty to sell, and Im sure you might get good deals for them, specially if you dont benefit much from some.

>>183767156

>all the "\n" typed
>all that reddit

It was all the keyboards fault

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>wtf is Wiz's inner "demon" supposed to represent?

>>183767349
>You simply cant have that level of micro in stellaris
It wouldn't really need to be micro. You could still have generic buildings on planets for exploiting local resources. How I was imagining it is, you can build Cities/Population Centers that generate tax revenue for that planet (every planet needs at least one major pop center) and these consume minerals and energy credits to produce a variety of goods based on that planet's local resources. Each pop center exploits its own tile plus the 8 adjacent tiles, and pop centers can't be build side by side, but they can be built overlapping exploitation tiles, though that cases the resource on that tile to have its productivity split between the two pop centers.

You'd still have your industry resources on planets, plus food, and local resources would sort of piggy back onto them. So it would be a mineral deposit, but would also give precious metals to to any city adjacent to it. Or precious stone, or something. Farms could also have cash crops or animals with valuable pelts or something, power plants could be build on a variety of sources (natural gas vein, thermal vent, oil pocket etc) which also provides a good to be exploited. Similarly research can produce things like various drugs and medicine, advanced electronics, etc. So you see it doesn't really require any additional micro beyond placing the new pop centers strategically so they can acquire those commercial resources and start making goods.

It's not my intention to add complicated supply chains with a dozen different specific buildings for each type of resource, that's just needlessly complicated. All you need is a way to get commerce going in Stellaris without changing too much of the current setup. So that's why piggy backing on the current resource system and adding another layer to it is best, so it doesn't fundamentally chagne how people build, but changes what they get out of it and what they can do with it.

>>183768840
A Swede with a dignity.

>Awakened Empire already have a fleet of 1M

Fuck me. I am still trying to build up 4 fleets for the guerrilla warfare against them.

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What i'm in for

>>183770479
Fun, efficient UI design, a combat system that seems arcane at first but opens up many options once you understand it and learn the keyboard shortcuts.

>>183734257
>They spam poorly equipped units, almost never build any buildings past the era 1 basics, constantly settle cities right up against region borders, rarely use more than two of their faction units and NEVER all three...on and on, it's such a mess.

What? When did you play for the last time? They do all of that shit for some time now.

>>183770719
Thanks. Should i try to build something for my taste or stick with some default race? Pretty much a 4X babby, got this game gifted recently.

>>183770812
Play to tutorial first so you have an idea of the controls, then play Wild Walkers.

>>183770812
Stick to Wind Walkers/Vaulters for your first game. Read carefully the other factions traits before picking them.

Stellaris question
How do I keep a planet after purging it? Not armageddon, but exterminating the inhabitants

>>183771424
Move one of your pops to the planet before the purge is complete.

>>183771424
Frontier Outpost
You'll at least hold the system post-holocaust shenanigans

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>civ vi
>in order to build this wonder it must be next to cows
>not on a hill
>next to a river
>in between a farm and a market
>14 tiles from queen victoria
>in 1987
>on a full moon
>and you must be wearing green socks

jesus christ

>>183773274
that ass is, dare I say it,
T H I C K

>>183773274
she can arrest me

>>183754790
Then maybe you can help me. I have most of the game figured out (for Bronze anyway, haven't tried the others), but there are still some parts that elude me. Like, does Feng Shui serve any purpose, and how the fuck do I build inspector towers, they're never happy.

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>yfw a fallen empire rises and you're the first target

>>183735205
Riders are fine in you don't have a good minor unit.

>>183770725
Last week.

>>183771424

You need to have either droids (not entirely sure about this one) or a pop that can live in said planet in order to move it. Thats why fanatic purifiers and hive minds suck. From a strictly gameplay efficient perspective, you are better off assimilating them (either a good slaver authoritarian faction or an egalitarian one).

>vodayni
>but with cravers depletion effect and +150% FIDSI
>but with the "you see adjacent nodes"
>but on a map with maximum minor civs
Jesus christ this snowball is insane.

>>183773870
If I remember correctly, the game should tell you what Feng Shui does. Play the tutorial/story or whatever it is. I'm pretty sure it increases happiness. I don't remember how to build the towers. Maybe you need stone?

>>183776396
It raises popularity and gives you a rating, yeah, but what do popularity do?

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>>183774407
>When both War in Heaven AEs and the big non-AE fed all declare war on you

Are there any 4X games that aren't a race to victory conditions? I want something like Dwarf Fortress in space, where the focus is on the difficulties of building a thriving civilization rather than conquering the galaxy.

>>183778776
Probably, but they aren't 4X.

Finally get back the Core and Boundary from AE. His ringworlds are next. And I will exterminate all the other species once I kill the AE for good.

>>183778776
As the other guy said, you are in the market for /gsg/ or /cbg/.

4x are quite formulaic by design.

>>183779000
Core and Boundary belong to the Xenophobe FE though. They don't have Ringworlds.
The Materialist FE has the Ringworlds.

>183778776
Oh and I forgot to mention games you are looking for are called distant worlds and aurora. Depending on just how DF you want to go.

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>>183779274
That is correct. The sequence of event is that the Materialist FE awaken made the Xenophobe FE their first target due to their proximity. They instantly got them. I am a bit far away so there are some other empires acted as cushions to let me prepare my force against the AE.

My fleet power: 270k
AE's fleet power: 1M

My casualty for the war: 2 cruisers and 18 corvettes

>>183779330
No, even Distant Worlds is lacking in internal politic. Once you have economy rolling, it's easy to keep the population happy.

How to purge the robots? I found out that you can only kill them off by outlawing AI. It fucking sucks. Now I can't deal with robots from a conquered world without changing my policy.

>>183780668
Install Vista on them.

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>Stellaris AI picking shitty pop planets that are so close to your border it takes a chunk out of your border and you lose 1 or 2 solar systems with good research planets in them
>Meanwhile on the other end of their territory there's a perfect planet for them with 22 pop

Why is this still allowed? If I tell them to fuck off and crash on another planet, they don't do fuck all and if I declare war on them, everyone and their mum joins their side because they have def pacts with everyone.

>>183780836
Try Millenium, kid.

>>183780932
"I don't answer ignorants, obnoxious questions. Thread locked." - Wiz.

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>>183781205
Tell me about it. I suggested to make it an option to 'claim' the border-edge around your borders to prevent dumb AI (or annoying AI on higher difficulties) to push it in, as well as an option to make the border around Frontier Outposts fixed.

Needless to say the thread was deleted. I've tried to make a mod for it myself, but I seem to dumb to get it working.

>end up between two FE
>one is xeno lovers and another is stagnant materialists
Sound good isn't it? Until you learn I play xenophobic spiritualist

>>183781618
Paradox Plaza is pretty much one of the worst forums.

>>183781792
You're sorted.
Materialist FE won't reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee because you're not gonna research Synths n' shit.
Xenophile FE has a +40 cushion you can work with and I don't think they ever do anything until the war in heaven or end game crisis regardless.

>>183782006
I still don't understand why they even bother with the 'suggestion' forum bit.
Every suggestion gets downvoted to shit or completely ignored, or memed with 'lol just make a mod for it lole'.

>>183782301
You should go and say the atmosphere in the suggestion forum is problematic.

>>183782716
I can't they banned me after I called someone a nobhead who suggested I use more frontier outposts

>>183782301
To have an excuse "yeah well if you don't like Stellaris, you can go complain there, we have a suggestion board".

>I was having a defensive pact with this one empire
>They canceled it because they think they are too cool to be working together with me (due to border friction)
>Instantly get attacked by AE due to proximity

Why is AI so stupid? I defended him against AE once before and now he pulled this shit and self-destruct.

>>183783207
>Why is AI so stupid?
Lol just make a mod for it lole

Fuck fuck fuck. I have the crisis disable but the robot rebellion chain is still triggered regardless. What should I expect?

>>183784392
Roll for anal circumference.

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>>183784392
a) If you have crises disabled the chain will start but just never end.
b) Even if you did somehow bug out the crisis disable and it does spawn the Machine Consciousness, it's a weaksauce pushover. Not even "weaksauce pushover compared to other crises", just "weaksauce pushover".

>>183785295
I heard that if you leave it for too long it would be uncontrollable.

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>>183786015
It was probably Wiz, trying to shill that his
> "AI is so well designed it poses a real problem even to the experienced player! Buy today for endless replayability!!!1!"
because no-one who isn't a shill has ever been challenged by the Consciousness.

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>>183784496
>>183784392
Here's a handy roll chart for this purpose.

>>183786547
>infant and child measures
WHAT
THE
FUCK

>>183786939
It's awwwwwwright.

>>183786547
Rolling for my next EL game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmYH3G0DIUQ

WE

>>183787315
>Fat black female
Still she is cis-gendered. Hope the awesome writers at Firaxis insert a line about her gender in civilopedia entry.

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>when no FE has awoken and you get bored and declare war on one

>That thicc girl

Jesus christ

>>183787315
I want to make fun of it, but I just don't care about Civ VI enough to even put in the effort

>>183788052

*fat

>>183788076

beach pls

>nubian leader is a literal mammy
>americans in charge of cultural sensitivity

>>183787315
Feels like she's gonna go "MMMM-HMMMM o no u didn't" and snap her fingers geometrically if you settle next to her

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>>183788703
>snap her fingers geometrically
That sounds horribly painful.

>>183786939
FATAL is a hell of a RPG. Literally, the "game" is hellish. Avoid at all costs.

>>183788947
I know the reputation.

But giving anal measurement for kids is just "woah". And not the good kind of "woah", the kind of "woah" that usually comes before a "why don't you have a seat over there".

>>183788121
Thicc IS fat.

>>183789120
Yeah, because a demon from magical world would abide to US laws before raping a child.

>Awaken Empire is losing ships for no reason whatsoever

What happened? It was at 1M and suddenly the ships start dying(?) one by one.

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The Beautiful Backgrounds mod improves my enjoyment of the system view immensely

>>183789884
>tfw impossible to tell what game this is without the UI

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>>183790026
> Lol, this looks like some Eye of Terror shit
> "This mod uses all genuine panoramic space backgrounds from the Hubble Space Telescope Archive"
> o fug