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Becca knows what ERP means edition
previous thread: >>183405676

>READ the pastebins BEFORE asking stupid questions
GENERAL FAQ: http://pastebin.com/wyz3Ye1g
Additional FAQ, SERIOUSLY, READ THIS ONE: http://pastebin.com/GHStmm22

>How to join Warbros NFA or the Alliance: http://i.imgur.com/gu5HZxZ.png

>Notable links
/wfg/ Discord: https://discord.gg/7P8Y63T
Wiki: http://warframe.wikia.com
Essentials: http://deathsnacks.com/wf/index.html
Buying and Selling items: https://warframe.market
Farming Prime parts: https://www.war.farm/index.php
Droptables by DE (probably rigged): http://www.warframe.com/repos/hnfvc0o3jnfvc873njb03enrf56.html
WF news: https://semlar.com/
Raid Setups and individual Builds:
THE LAW OF RETRIBUTION: http://pastebin.com/dMMdZRpY
THE JORDAS VERDICT: http://pastebin.com/NLPSMBed
Warframe Raid Schoolbus: Hide your power lvl and follow the rules: https://discord.gg/aUTTyWH
DPS calculator and weapon build planner: https://github.com/GottFaust/WWDC/releases/tag/0.8.2 (not maintained)
DPS calculator and build planner No.2: http://warframe-builder.com/ (frames, weapons and companions)
Top guns: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mdgJUyNrsHWRMveKwFrpdMJQWyyEGE4Wpo34e8BzE74/edit#gid=157275360
Frames and Modding: https://pastebin.com/D8Ckdz0c
Tierqueer Filters: https://git.io/vMhaS

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CURRENT UPDATE: Chains of Harrow (Update 21.1.0)
> https://forums.warframe.com/topic/820014-chains-of-harrow-update-2110/
CURRENT PRIME ACCESS: Oberon
> https://forums.warframe.com/topic/801884-oberon-prime-hotfix-2062/
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/wfg/ OP pastebin, if it's not like this one report it and make a proper one: http://pastebin.com/iAgtMahh
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1st for always bully Frost players
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Post your edge frames
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what would you do to fix my 4, anon?
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4th for univac
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>>183465979

>Need some Argon Crystals
>Decide to bring Kitty for drop buffs
>Bring mag for her passive since no vac
>It does nothing
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>>183465962
Move faster, more agressively and make so enemies stuck on it stay closer to the eye instead of going sky high and making it ass to shoot.
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>>183465962
go full out dragoon since DE doesn't give a shit about her orignal concept
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>>183465962
tornadoes also shoot players up into the sky
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>accidentally go into a nightmare alert as low-ranked Ivara with no health/shields
Fug
Spent the entire time in Prowl throwing my Zenistar and rezzing fellow tenno
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>>183466282
that's how you do tenno
that's how you do
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>>183466282
>esc
>abort mission
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>>183466110

>mag has pull loot aug
>i know, let's give her the ability to vacuum while bullet jumping

Literally why.
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Would you grope a shy Nezha?
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>>183465962

Starts out as a single big tornado you can steer with more damage/range that can be detonated on refire into 4+ roaming funnel clouds.
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hey hey hey
warframe made me gay
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Literally how can other damage frames compete?
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>>183466681

Well, if they ever get Covert Lethality and Fatal Teleport to work properly...
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>>183466681
>damage frames
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>>183466403

Would this be better?

>Mag can manipulate her weapons magnetically rather than using her hands. Holstered weapons are reloaded automatically, and Reloading held weapons is not interrupted by any actions.
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>>183466428
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>>183466941

Could be fun. So will never happen.
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Does this game not suck yet?
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>>183467281
I'll tell you the answer after you give me the source
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>>183467281
warframe has always been good, goyim
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>>183467281
as much as ivara's horsecock
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>>183467417
Veemecelli on eka's portal
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This sortie spy mission is absolutely awful.
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>>183466681
Your mesa looks neat.
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>>183467575
How so? It's an enemy modifier condition on a mode where you don't kill any enemies.
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>He doesn't ERP with Becca playing as a Saryn who can't stop farting while grinding
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>>183467743
I'm playing pubs and don't have any well-prepped cloaking frames. Self-explanatory
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What is the most general purpose Prime Frame to throw my Formas on?
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>>183467829
>Pub spy
But why?
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>>183466832
You're right, how can any frame compete with Mesa?
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>>183467939
Because I hate spy and would rather be carried through it than do it all myself.
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>>183467838
loki
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Nyx vs. Nova for Pub defense?
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>>183467829
No need for that. You can take your tankiest frame and just make a beeline for each vault since it's Corpus. If you're sufficiently tanky, you can just set off alarms, eat shit all the way, and still extract the data because the vaults are so short.

>>183467973
You might as well start learning them, they're not leaving sortie rotation any time soon. Pubs aren't very reliable, either.
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>>183468059
speedva erry tim
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>>183465732
Console fags welcome here? Been playing and unlocking planets solo most of the time but now the enemies are getting too much for me even though my gear is all maxed out, is this the "use formas and level your gear again" wall or im i just bad? Im mr6 and have frost prime, rhino and loki maxed and finished crafting mag and nyx.
Also what should I farm for plat early in the game? I want more slots.
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>>183468059
I can't remember the last time I encountered a pub Nyx
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>>183467536
>look up website
gotta say this site is kinda confusing and dated looking, don't know why you'd u-
>vore
oh
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>>183468298
Syndicate mods
are guaranteed 15P everyday, not sure how things are on console though
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>>183468298
What weapon are you using?
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Every gun, that somehow able to kill lvl 100 sortie grineer is good.

There's no need to 4xCP, and even having sinlge of it is not that important.

Only bad weapon was one-handed swords, and even now rivens had fixed them.

Also, blast + toxin for 0-5 status.

Radiation + Toxin for small status.

Viral + Electricity for high status and low rate of attacks.

Corrosive+cold for high status AND high rate of attacks.
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>>183468430
You're welcome.
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>>183468059
I wouldn't use either. Slowva is absolutely ass, Speeva assume your team can kill efficiently (either that you have to HARD carry) and Nyx just CC is kinda pointless on defense where you'd rather just have thing making a line towards you so you can kill them.
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>>183468654
It's appreciated.
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>>183468298
post builds
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>>183468298
read the OP - especuially the pastebins

Either you're using shit weapons or you don't have essential mods leveled.
Get a hold of atterax, hek (with syndicate augment), akstilleto prime. It's a loadout that'll carry you through the starchart. Potato them, put a forma or two in each and look up the builds. Don't worry if you don't have the prime variants of mods yet.

For plat farming I don't recommend selling syndicate mods since you need to work 4 days for one. Just go farm relics and burn them. Sell anything that's worth at least 20p. link to market in OP should help but the prices on consoles will be a bit different.
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>>183468265
What frame is this?
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I just pubbed the Spy Sortie and we finished in well under 5 minutes with no hiccups. Wh... what is happening?

We got a forma.
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>>183468952
>>183468298
Oh, and for your own sake, find someone to play with. Your experience will be a million times better.
You'll be able to power level each other and most important of all, extract from survival or excavation whenever you want, not when some pub feels like it.
DE please bring operator extraction back
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>>183469053
Pubbing works eventually, I'm too lazy to learn spy and after a couple of failures you'll get through it.
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>>183469296

Solo grinding spy is ultimate comfy. Until stalker shows up.
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>>183469373
my Lex P one shots him
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>>183469373
solo grinding spy is ultimate boring.
pubbing old t4 defense keys was where it was at.
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>>183469021
Nova with Visage tennojew skin
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>>183469373
I'm so tired of MY RECKONING showing up just to give me a Dread.
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>>183469427
>pubbing old t4 defense keys
Good times, good times.
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>>183469427
>>183469493
Bad as fuck times. I remember them pretty well.
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>>183469427
for me it was old Mesa on T4 Interception
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I stopped playing a year ago. Just found out that draco is no longer a thing.

What's the new spot?
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>>183469573

Hydron.
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>>183469573
Hydron, Sedna
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>>183467281
/wfd/ returning fucking when
WHEN
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>>183469573
Hydron is the general place, Bere still ain't all that bad. Shitters use Akkad still.
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>>183469740
>>183469676
>>183469671
What's wrong with Akkad?
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>>183469534
>back when braton prime was the hot new prime
>and T3 was the considered end game
>trying to get braton prime receiver from T3 Def
>finally getting it and feeling like part of the master race
Probably explains why I still treasure braton prime and use it often, that shit is my baby after all that grind
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>>183469893
Nothing, you stay there and level
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>>183469296

I normally instantly go solo for Spy. Too much out of my control. I'd only stayed with the squad on a whim, as it had another random actually playing Limbo well and with which we'd comfortably cruised through the Hijack by alternating our Cataclysms in the Rover's path. I'm still in shock.
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>>183469926
>>183469893
Grineer units give way more XP than infested units.
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>>183469573
Hydron with pubs.
Berehinya in premade.
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>>183469926
>M-muh sekrit club
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>>183470339
wut
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>>183470130
>>183470339 This guy gets it
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>>183470559
what
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>>183469671
>>183469676
>>183469740
>>183470316
Thanks, still coping with the fact that the void is null.

I'm just going to grind out some of the new weapons in the meantime.

I know there's a list in the OP but, what weapons would you recommend me? Looking to forma something new.
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>>183470684
zarr & pandero
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Hey DE
I need big fucking scythe like you see in all the anime for my skellington prime
doesn't matter if it isn't meta, as long as it's not shit, got good range and slash
thanks
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>>183470684

Pox is relatively new and quite fun.
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>>183469692
>>>/aco/1571955
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>>183470864
pls yes, and more chain weapons when, ripkas are a good start but that's just one weapon type
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Where does one go to farm Orokin Cells?
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>>183470860
>>183470885
The boomstick and the pandero seem fun. Pox doesnt look as interesting. But that's just me.

Thanks
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>>183471075
I must be blind, thank you
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>>183471380
You know what they say, in the land of the blind the one eyed man is worth two in the bush.
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>>183471272
>>183471272
I do Ceres, Pallas with Nekros and get 4 at best, atleast 2 per run, thanks Ignis Wraith, its a very low level exterminate and just a cakewalk
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>>183471450
That probably depends on how compliant the bush is in regards to letting the other two one eyed guys go.
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Are the tenno powers p2w in this game?

I've seen to get lenses without paying money is either incredibly hard due to rng or impossible.
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>>183471823
They're mostly garbage, and the lenses are pretty easy to get from Sorties.

That said, the game is irrefutably pay to win. It's fair enough to free players, but pay to win nonetheless.
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>>183471823

wut
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>>183471823
O, sweet child.
You will, one day, regret ever muttering these words.
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>>183471967
So said the prophet.
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>>183471940

>That said, the game is irrefutably pay to win. It's fair enough to free players, but pay to win nonetheless.

For all its faults, this is literally the least p2w f2p ever.
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>>183471823
you mean focus? fuck no, this game (and its dev) is terrible across astonishingly many dimensions of possibility and design, but I'd really hesitate to call it pay to win - everything you can pay for these days just lets you skip the grind entirely (which IS the game), so it's really more like pay to not play or pay to sleep

besides, you'll be drowning in lenses and have more focus than you know what to do with and all the useful nodes maxed out in a short while if you just keep running sorties
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>>183471940
I've done about 30 sorties which is limited to one per day and only got a minor lens once (the wrong one)

That's not easy to get.
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>>183472065
your account seed must be pretty good
https://www.warframe.com/repos/hnfvc0o3jnfvc873njb03enrf56.html
for 2.33% and 0.67% chance on each, I seem to get unairu lenses an awful lot
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>tfw really want the lato prime
help me wfg
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>>183472171
Start by testing bananas on microwaves.
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>>183471823
Defenders will tell you it's not p2w, it is.
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>have valkyr
>always hear about how strong eternal war build is
>too much of a bitch to try is out since no hysteria invulnerability
>finally decide to commit
>pull out old school galatine to do it
>no formas on either valk or galatine
>walk in t4 rift
>attack speed is though the roof
>rage + life strike makes me functionally immortal unless something basically one shots me but good luck since i've got like 1200 armor
>crits are breaking 100k easily with minimal effort since my attack speed is so insane my combo is hitting 3x in seconds
>level 90 eximus getting shredded in half a combo

Well that was a fucking thrill looking forward to trying that again
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>>183472057
Only because it's mostly PvE.

The MK-1 Braton, which you can buy with credits, is inherently worse than the Braton, which you can buy with platinum.

The only popular f2p games without p2w mechanics are Dota 2 and most free single-player games.
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>>183472312
keyword: can
not must.
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>>183472278
the main things that come closest to p2w in this game are

inventory space especially for new frames
blue and gold potatoes - not even froma is this gay, and fucking lenses.
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I just realized something: remember the
Void Raid? WHERE THE FUCK ARE OROKANG PYRAMIDS, DE?
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What side arms can compare to the Vaykor Marelok and its disgusting OPness?
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>>183472312

Have you even played the game? Regular Braton is only purchasable with credits, not plat. It's 25k vs MK1 @ 15k.
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>>183472374
hoo.
what are you doing solo on akkad tho
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>>183472518
lexp beats it on raw average damage output thanks to its crits and pandero is similarly ridiculous (I still prefer the vaylok)
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>>183472286
honestly with how insane melee weapons are right now and the fact that people think that because hysteria is shit now valk is shit, I think eternal war valk might easily be top 3 damage frames at high enemy levels
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>Started playing this game a couple months ago
>Unlock Limbo Theorem
>First mission is an archwing interception
>Try to find ppl
>No one
>Try to do it solo
>Fail
>Buy the frame with 50% coupon
>Max it out, then never touches it again
>2 Months later, got a pretty solid archwing set
>Do the first mission solo
>Success
Now the real quick in the balls
>You have to craft the frame parts in order to advance the quest

DE...
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>>183472403
How about this? Without spending plat, you can (realistically) only get 1 Forma/day. Optimal weapon and frame builds will need more than one forma, so you're stuck waiting if you don't pay any money. If two players are exactly the same, except one of them spends money, and a conclave alert occurs in the middle of the forma construction, the one who spent money would win.

Just because a game isn't China-level "pay 20 burgerbucks and you get a 1-hit kill weapon for a week that can't be earned" (there aren't any games that actually do this) doesn't mean it's not pay-to-win.
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>>183464068
>>183464285
>>183464301
>>183464358
>>183464497
>>183464529

Warframes are a result or byproduct of the Orokin infestation technology.

>orokin get attacked by their own robots which are now self aware
>the robots want to kill everything, can adapt to resist any damage, self repair, and create copies of themselves
>the orokin create an organism which can basically do the exact same things with the intention of setting them against each other
>the warframes are a result of infested biomass sculpted and controlled by technology
>while the rest of the ship is build to monitor and manage the technological aspects of your warframe, the helminth infirmary is designed to manage its biological functions
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>>183472734
>>>First mission is an archwing interception
>>Try to find ppl
>>No one
>>Try to do it solo
>>Fail
I think you might be retarded or something, those missions are so fucking easy without even levelling your gear, let alone equipping mods. The only issue is getting enough of the drop, sometimes you have to run the fucking missions twice to get 3 of them.

The only person you have to blame here is you.
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>>183472526
MK-1 Paris and Paris, then.
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>>183472518
Aklex and Euphona are both equally stronk if not stronker, with the added benefit of being pinpoint accurate unlike marecock
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>>183472749
Except trading is a thing, which makes your whole statement outright false.

Seriously, one would be able to get about 6 formas(or more if I'm lucky, which basically is this game as a whole) way less than a day since bundles of 3 are sold for 35 platinum.

Obviously the platinum will come being circulated by people who actually paid money for it, but most of it is spent on cosmetics anyway.
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>>183472749
And it takes 3 days to build a frame, what's your point?

The reality is that you'll always have a forma in the oven, and even without them you can very easily clear everything up to sorties by yourself. You eventually amass enough of every resource that there's nothing to spend them on.
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>>183472754
I believe this is accurate, though the manifestation of sapience and attribution of technocyte flesh (the frame) as a "master" is perhaps not quite how that was intended to go and simply occurred over time (much as the infestation came to be as a result of the technocyte running rampant)
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>>183472734
"...DEmn, i'm retarded"
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>>183472873
>>183472518
Pandero's pretty good too
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>>183471940

How can it be p2w when there's nothing to win?
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>>183472754
>manages the biological functions of your warframe
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>>183473140

How are you supposed to use Pandero's secondary fire?
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>>183473184
What do you mean? As in how do you control it during the secondary or something?
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>>183473184
You uh use it?
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>>183472949
>>183472954
>they keep defending DE

We've simply got different definitions of pay to win. If you can pay real money for something that alters gameplay in some tangible fashion, I'd call it pay to win. But you're adamant that it's only pay to win if you can literally pay money to win every time.

It's okay to admit that your favorite game is designed to entice people into spending money.
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>>183473184
is this what you mean?

>>183473336
I think you're missing the point, those two posts aren't defending the game or DE, because there's a very big difference between being pay to win (which this really is not) and being designed to entice people into spending money (which this game is, in some of the most slimy and deceptive or lazy ways)
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>>183473286

No, I mean are you supposed to use it for normal killing, or just keep it as an emergency button when something gets into point blank range?
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>>183473629
My Pandero is able to kill Level 3 Sortie Grineer with one headshot, so the alt-fire is for big groups all clumped up or a quick way to take out Heavies.
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>>183472854
I didn't even knew you could mod the archwing back then, not to mention that it's practically impossible to get a team to do archwing interception missions so how the fuck was I supposed to know how to solo it...
Goddamn this place is full of old fags.
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>>183472954
thing is, i went 150 days without farming forma and i ran out

>>183473184
bind a key to secondary fire, press it
dont be a scrub, its immensely useful for nullifier bubble popping, crowd clearing, or in my case, sniping because dmg/cd/-recoil/-flight speed
its basically like a little deadly TMP for anything with no armor
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>>183468617
>>183468869
https://pastebin.com/rAqRvZ67

>>183468460
im far away from getting a syndicate mod for myself let alone for somebody else, anything that whales would rather buy with plat rather than go and farm it even though farming it is easy?

>>183468952
>>183469226
read and reread many times
>Either you're using shit weapons or you don't have essential mods leveled.
i think both, please check builds, also is hek worth it without syndic mods? getting Akstiletto Prime is impossible right now, how can i get more potatoes? i only have 1 golden and 1 blue, alerts seems like you only get 1 potato per year ffs
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>>183473336
There's no "different" definitions of it. Pay to win is "gain advantage over others that didn't pay that they can't get without paying" which in Warframe is only limited to Excalibur Prime and the likes of it.
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>>183474353
oh wow , those builds are nasty
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>>183474557
Waiting is a form of payment.
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oh my god I hate being stuck in two person parties for long survivals
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>>183474863
fuck you at least have the balls to say it to my face
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>>183474831
by that definition it would be pay to play, not pay to win.
The way you're describing it, you have to pay for items either way, with either plat or time, so the only way not to pay to play would be by just using the starter gear and not building anything.
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>>183474587
teach me senpai :"(
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>>183474831
"Pay to not wait" is not "pay to win" though, considering even the waiter can get what the nonwaiter does.

If anything, Warframe is "pay 2 look cool" considered how many pieces of visual looks are locked behind not platinum but actual money.
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>>183474945
I'm sorry but people make me really fucking nervous and it's really uncomfortable for me to be in two person parties for long periods of time especially when talking is involved
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>>183473336
This game is pretty much entirely about the grind. People who pay are literally just skipping the entire game for the sake of absolutely nothing, because there's no sick endgame where you need 8 forma'd primes to compete.

It's pay 2 not play, not P2W. If the game was a competitive shooter, you might have a point, but because it's a co-op PvE title, you don't have one.
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>>183475001
I would love to give you some basic mods to kick start you, but you are on console
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>>183475084
just show me a build or tell me the mods
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>>183465962
Fix her two first, its just a glorified ground slam attack. change it with the ability to hover in place, to allow control over the battlefield and easily pick your target(s).

For the four, add an AoE Gale with zephyr as the centre that pushes enemies away, can be usefull for things like exav, can also be absurdly annoying for other players.

Or just make it a team buff that gives a minor version of her passive and unlimited mid air jumping i guess, with some other glorified effect. perhaps a minor speed boost, but we have volt for that.
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reminder that you all are shit wf players
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>>183475162
well, first I'd recommend trying to max that serration
try to get Split Chamber and Heavy Caliber, also get some Elemental Mods and use corrosive
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>>183475345
reminder that i am a shit person in general
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>>183466681
Thats a good looking Mesa
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Is Power Throw and Whirlwind worth it on the Glaive Prime?
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>>183472312
>>183472856

>not sure if baiting or if genuinely too dumb to realise you can just buy the blueprints
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>>183475461
I feel old because I can't imagine anyone not using both those mods for the one singular purpose of self-damage being the only use for the glaive
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So this is basically garbage, right?
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>>183475553
Yup.
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>>183475553
It's decent garbage but by no mean strong.
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>>183475553

Dread is still a great weapon and people still want the Riven. Keep on rolling.
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>>183475295

Her 3 already gives teammates a speed boost with the augment.
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>>183475589
>>183475607
Should I bother rerolling it any more, or do you think I could sell it to some edgelord? Dread's got a weak disposition, so I'm not sure how much better I could get.
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>>183475495

Does the self-damage apply statuses? I have....... ideas.
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>>183475709
yes except you can't rad proc yourself and the glaive p will knock you over like every time
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>Octavia Neuroptics Blueprint Uncommon (22.56%)
THIS IS A FUCKING LIE
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>>183475675
You can get MUCH better if you hit Multishot, Pure damage and Crit Damage.
However, seeing as you only re-rolled it twice, I think you can try selling this one for a substantial amount of plat. Getting a full 90% Corrosive combo in a single slot is by no means bad.
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>>183474353
Weapons are *ok* for where you are in game but you lack basic mods. Right now you need damage mods.
>Needed rifle mods:
Serration, Split chamber, 4 elemental mods (Hellfire, Cryo rounds, Infected clip, Stormbringer), 2 crit mods (Point strike, Vital sense)
>Needed Shotgun mods (yes they are separate from rifles):
Point blank, Hell's chamber, 4 elemental mods (charged shell, contagious spread, chilling grasp, incendiary coat), 2 crit mods (Blunderbuss, Ravage)
>Needed pistol mods:
Hornet strike, Barrel diffusion, Lethal torrent, 4 elemental mods (Convulsion, Heated charge, Deep freeze, Pathogen rounds),2 crit mods (Pistol gambit, Target cracker)
>Needed melee mods:
Pressure point, Reach, Fury (replace with Berserker if you have), 4 elemental mods (Fever strike, Molten impact, North wind, shocking touch)
>Needed warframe mods:
Vitality, Redirection, Steel fiber, Flow, Intensify, Continuity, Stretch, Streamline
As soon as you can start running Orokin Derelict for vault mods (read this: http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Orokin_Vault#Orokin_Vaults)

I put the more important mods first. If a weapon has >20% critical chance, both crit mods take priority over elemental mods.
Elements work in pairs. See this chart: http://i.imgur.com/AFVavTs.jpg

Get a warframe alerts app on your phone to get notified of potato (catalysts and reactors) alerts. It's your best bet to get them. There's usually an alert every other friday after the dev stream (next friday)

Once again Read OP. ALL of it. Twice
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>>183475812
Rerolled 4x now, I think this is better but I'm not entirely sure.
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>>183475792
not even hard :^)
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haven't played this shit for months. what's new? what's tier 1 now? how did tonkor get nerfed?
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>>183475913
>Status chance on a total crit weapon
>Redundant punch through on a bow
SOILED IT
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>>183475913
Well, in terms of making weapon "viable", yeah - this one is better. However, people who'll buy a Riven from you won't buy it for viability. They want to crit shit on Mercury.
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>>183475913

Nope.jpeg.

The one you had before was Corrosive on a single mod, which while not ideal was better than status and some more punch-through.

What you want is something with +Crit Damage and something else useful, like +Multishot, +Damage, or +Fire Rate. But mostly +Crit Damage, because Dread auto-crits.
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>pubbie says simulor changes were actually a buff and i just don't know how to use it
>do 3 times his damage with a freshly forma'd ignis
i swear people eat any kind of shit their ecelebs feed them
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>>183475935
Not hard, just holy shit my luck is awful
3 hours in and still nothing
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>>183476050
could be worse

what if tq was a youtuber?
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>>183475969
>>183476016
Welp, out of kuva. Back to farming. Thanks for the help.
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>>183476131
There's plenty of shit youtubers.

As an Excal main it pains me whenever someone ask me something about Excal and gives me a link to some Youtube channel that showcases yet another shitty unoptimized build.

For some reason, 95% don't know how to build Excal.
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>when someone looks at you for a long time in the Bazaar and you know they're thinking about buying from you
>they walk away
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>get a MR 12 glaxion riven from a friend
>reroll it
>get +156% multishot and +reload speed
>have an already high RoF build on it
>melts everything and has a 0.9s Reload
>wind up bring it on sorties all the time now
I really like rivens
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>>183476442
>meanwhile I rerolled mine, got +zoom and +critical damage
fuck you desu
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I can't make Ivara look good anymore. Post colors
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>>183476525
I'm sorry anon
its sooo good though
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do negative stats on rivens make the positive stats stronger, compared to a riven with no negatives?
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What is so good about the Supra mod that makes it a must have?
20% status chance doesn't seem that useful?
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>>183476858
It's additive, not multiplicative
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>>183476858

it adds base status chance , not a % increase like 60% mods , 20´+whatever it had before is pretty good on a high fire rate weapon , at least for corrosive - heat

add free energy from the proc
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>>183476779

Yes.

>>183476858

What >>183476926 said plus it's a syndicate burst that restores energy. I used it on caster frames just for that.
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I wish the Helminth Infirmary had more shit to it than a stupid chair to get a cyst ouf ot my frame
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>>183477016
tentacle porn on operators when
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>trying to trade things with kids who barely speak english

just give me the fucking thing for the price we agreed, you mong
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Seems to be Russian hours of /wfg/
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>>183477049
>ywn be your operator getting tentacleraped by your shipboard monstrosities
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>cernos prime
>first prime bow since the sack of shit vanilla useless paris prime
>bows are for stealth missions and doing a billion damage to single targets
>"let's make it a bow shotgun"
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>>183477458

Zhuge Prime when?
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>Icy Avalanche also stops all statuses
This augment just gets better and better, goddamn
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>>183465962
Make I think so her 4 gives her movable wings that give her altitude whilst blowing back any enemies in range of her flapping wings. Maneuverability+offense whilst staying true to her avian theme.
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>>183477016
>tfw your Operator will never accidentally inhale the Nidus spores on accident
>Ordis will never inform them of the infestation incubating in their stomach
>They will never have to get Helminth to remove the cysts growing inside of them
>Or be confused then horrified when Helminth demands they disrobe so it can access their bowels where the cysts have taken root
>You will never watch as Helminth snakes a tentacle up inside of your operator and remove their cysts
>Or watch Helminth force feed your Operator fleshjuices that will their body to violently purge everything from their digestive system all over the infirmary floor
Why live?
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>>183466378
>quitting
This is why I have to satisfy your girl for you anon. This is why.
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>>183466681
By being Valkyr, Nidus, Equinox, fuck even Sayrn
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>>183466941
Would look sexy as fuck with her Deluxe skin
w-we're getting that eventually right bros?
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I just want to get a condition overload

fuck
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>>183471823
Thing is, there's nothing to "win" for shelling out cold hard real world cash, unless you consider buying mods and rivens to boost damage output on Frames and buying Syndanas "winning"
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>There are 5 Kubrow types, not 4
Now I feel like a dummy
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>>183478029
______dummy______
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>>183478006
you can sell prime junk to others and use that to buy mods. life time total i put in $40 over a couple years of nonconsecutive play and got maybe $200 in traded plat that i used to get stuff like a euphona prime riven
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Does it matter whether or not you rank up a riven before rerolling it?
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>>183478320
Nope. Probably should rank it up so you see what the final rank stats are.
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Could you guys post some Nekros builds?
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>>183478439
Same question and how I mod the weapon for decrease?
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>>183478439
There are only two builds

>corrupted mods
>no corrupted mods

If you're using corrupted mods, power strength is the dump stat. If you're using no corrupted mods, you use all four of the normal ability enhancing mods.

The difference between the two builds is no corrupted mods build can do alright damage with its 4 and only desecrates the whole room, while corrupted mods build does not damage with its abilities but will desecrate the whole map.
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Bingo?
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>>183478786
Yup, you lucky cunt.
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>Finally decide to build another arch wing for fields of eidolons eventual release
>Settle on the Iztal for edgelord street cred
>Assemble all the parts, takes 5hrs for each of them to finish cookin'
>Cool.jpg
>5hrs l8r, get the Iztal itself cookin
>3 day wait time out of nowhere
>nonchalantshrug.wav
It's cute that DE thought people might be incentivized to spend play to skip the wait time on archwings. Maybe the thought there'd actually be a high demand for non-starter Archwings or something, lol
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>There are people who do not want you to stare at your Warframe's body while the Limbo on your team disables you from playing the game.
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>>183478656
>Building 4 for damage
What?
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>>183478901
Should have built amesha, it's by far the strongest and only has 12 hour build time for the final archwing
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>>183478990
It's a viable option and better then negative strength build if you're going to be soloing / not playing as part of an organized farming group, but you still want more drops
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>>183478439
for meta resource farming you just shove as much range as possible, and fix it up a bit with efficiency and duration but you probably've figured this out already.
For tank setup you'll need vitality, despoil, equilibrium and health conversion. You can follow it up with shield of shadows, p.cont, p.flow and QT.
If you feel ballsy I suppose you could swap out QT for blindrange, which in tandem with power drift is enough to cap out damage reduction on shield of shadows, but energy costs WILL be an issue.
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>>183479087
No I mean I thought most builds do the SoS augment and you need some power strength for that to get to the DR cap.
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>>183479127
I don't know about that, I got the impression that if you wanted to build nekros as a tank you get the health orbs = armor mod from simaris and just play despoil like normal only now you're unkillable.
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>>183479010
Huh...guess that's the next one I'll build then. What about Archwing weapons, what're your choice picks? I have the Grattler cooking atm
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>>183478439
>>183479121
And you COULD do a hipster armor stripping build, but it's shit. You'll need creeping terrify, CP, coaction drift, unairu focus passive and around 230% power str (don't remember exact number) and go full melee (unairu passive applies to melee). This strips 100% armor.
So yeah, don't do this.
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>>183479258
For range: Velocitus. For everthing else: Grattler or Fluctus, unless you have Imperator Vandal.
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>>183479229
>>183479127
Although despoil armor requires you to be killing trash mobs constantly, if you were taking nekros on boss runs for some reason, SoS would actually be the way to go, but I don't think you can desecrate boss corpses so why would you

>>183479258
I only have the velocitus and the centaur, because everyone said they were the best back when archwing was released, and I played a bit of it recently and they still seem just as OP as they were.

Velocitus is literally the opticor, but for space. Highest single target damage per shot, and you can charge shots quite fast so it's probably also the best single target damage per second too. Pairs well with the centaur, which is your go-to crowd destroyed, I don't know how the other archwing melee are these days but centaur used to be the only crit based arch melee, and it's fast, and has reasonably high base damage to start with, so you just mash melee attack which autotracks enemies and oneshots most things at incrdible hihg speed.
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Do conculysts just straight up not drop war blades and hilts anymore?

Been at this for hours with ivara with nothing but a higher mission quit rate to show for it.

WTB war blades/hilt
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>>183479258
Imperator Vandal and Fluctus are the best ones I've found. Imperator Vandal for all around usability and damage and Fluctus for just plowing through hordes of enemies.

Melee is almost entirely cosmetic so take your pick.
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>>183479229
Well here's the extra tanky build I use sometimes. If I wasn't a lazy cunt I 'd forma him again and move PD to the exilus slot and throw in something useful, either streamline or PFlow.
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>>183479524
>>183479547
>>183479629
Thanks anons...See you on the Fields....whenever that comes out
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>>183479656
And I forgot the image.
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>>183479619
Did you sell your Broken War from the mission, or do you want a Broken + reg for some reason?
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>>183479619
If you had spent the same time playing sorties, raids, syndicate farming, or if you started with some base plat, then jewed the trade chat by buying cheap selling expensive, you would make the plat needed for hunhows gift.

You fell for the "I won't pay, I will farm for the thing I want" meme. Real endgame is trade chat.
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>>183479741

> or do you want a Broken + reg for some reason?

The autismis compels me.
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>>183478656
>>183479229
I think you're missing the point of nekros, and neither of those builds is nearly so cut and dry as you state it unless you're intentionally crippling your effectiveness as either lootdady or shadowdaddy
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>they stealth nerfed the Scourge
Fucking.
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>>183480204
And Mirage, somewhat late.
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someone explain this meme to me
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>>183480357
They can't cash out on your teammate's deaths if they can't move
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>Do Spy as Loki
>Fuck up the moving lasers vault twice in a row
For fucks sake. How long do you have to wait for the timing to let you get to the room where you can turn the lasers off? I tried it but it seems like you can't do it on the first pass.
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>>183480687
As the first wall moves right and the second wall moves away you can slide into a crevice on the left if you arent fast enough to slip all the way around
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>>183480204

If you mean the accuracy thing it effects all spearguns, they're stupid inaccurate now to the point of being unuseable.
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>>183480886
but my ferrox is still precise as ever
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>>183480826
I do that anyway, the timing's never right for me to get around in one go
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What elements work best on the Ignis Wraith?
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>>183480687
which moving lasers vault? there are a lot of moving lasers
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>>183481104
Vertical moving lasers? Laser walls? Moving along the corridors?
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Ok.

this is what a normal day with warframe looks like:
play relics in defense and survival and use relics you have en masse.
do the sortie
After getting enough standing affinity,play the syndicate missions.
Anything I missed?
I neeed to make it perfect, so I can play this game as effectively and shortly as my attention span can be spent.
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Why does Octavia's Dance emote have that little symbol besides it
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>>183481168
there are a few "windows" you can take but the first easy way to do it is right when you enter the room after the first pass of the first laser iirc, you're aiming to only take the one vent that's guaranteed to be open at the "end"
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>>183481239
>>play relics in defense and survival and use relics you have en masse.
Defense and survival are for retards. Smart people only run capture or extermination.
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why do polearms have 2 sugatras on different places on the handle instead of 1 or 2 at the base of the blade which makes 200% more artistic sense
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>>183480645
don't you just look at them and press 3 tho
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>>183481240
If you use the dances as Octavia near one of the weird musical things in a Relay, it'll play your currently-equipped song for all nearby to hear.
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>>183481239
here's my day so far:
farm condition overload for 13 hours
get nothing
cry
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>>183481547
earlier today I farmed it for an hour and got it
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Can someone explain to me why "Continuity" is said to drop as a reward on Spy missions (on the wiki) but the drop-table on the wiki says nothing about it being dropped anywhere?
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>>183480972

do you use heavy calibur? Unless it's been hotfixed... the shots were going off to my fucking right/left when I last used it a few days ago.
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>>183481239
farm resources if needed
level one or two stuff for day
sortie
conclave points for cosmetics but suck at it
figure out how to mandachord
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What was the point in making pole-arm primary weapons shit in terms of heavy caliber usage? I've tested all of them with Javlok/Ferrox having Rivens and I found nothing worth "hiding" from DE.

Is it because DE does not play their game?
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>>183481835
I swear to fucking god I will be the man who kills you
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Please post Chilling Globe builds.
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>>183482178
fuck off frost
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>Drekar Butcher Mod Drop Chance: 3.00%
>Condition Overload Legendary (0.67%)
>0.67% * 3.00% = 0.0201%
does this mean you literally have 1 in 4975 odds to get that mod for every anal butcher you kill? meaning that, on average, you are going to get it after nearly five thousand kills of that specific unit? have I grossly misunderstood something, or is this really their idea of not trying to make the game feel like a giant grindwall?

>>183481956
because the wiki is out of date and self-contradicting in some regards, at least in the past partly due to their policy of ostensibly, and mostly just when convenient, not allowing datamined information or anything that goes against the word of DE or what the game client says; check out the (probably rigged/fake) droptables in the OP and you'll see continuity is going to come from a bunch of defense missions rot C
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>>183480687
The first laser wall always covers the entire length of the corridor, however the second stops early. Let the first wall pass by the entrance and move forward. The second wall will start moving backwards, there is plenty of time to not get hit by the first wall and then hide in the furthest alcove.

Wait till the third wall is moving away to the right before you exit the alcove and turn to the left. Watch for a camera around the corner on the higher level vaults and destroy it. Inside the room on this left turn is a button that will turn off all the lasers. It is actually quite helpful to do it this way because other dumb players can't come in and ruin the vault.
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>>183482305
Waiting for the third laser wall to move right usually means that the second one is past the alcove, that's the part that gets me. Doesn't matter though, I went in and had a few runs at it. I think all that was messing me up was that I thought the whole ceiling was covered in a laser field when I was doing an invasion mission. Maybe I just looked wrong and it was the normal moving laser ceiling.
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>>183480687
just take the roof man
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>>183482558
The timing is not exact and synchronized. If the way does not look clear then just wait in the alcove. Once the 3rd wall is moving right and the 2nd wall is moving back, you can move.

I'm not sure what you mean by the entire ceiling thing. Is your computer so potato that you're seeing an incredible amount of afterimages?
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>>183483230
Inside the actual vault the ceiling can have a laser grid too.
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dying as an operator in index is bugged, you can't do jack and never revive
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I'm just looking for a cute boy to play with is that too much to ask
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>alt-tabbed waiting for three people to finish their relic, keeping hostage safe
>forget to tab back and check my reward

rip
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>>183483520
Uhhh... the Jehovah's witness looking kid or the dog?
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Peacemaker more like Babymaker am I right lads
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>>183483839
No a cute boi to play warframe with
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>>183483539

This happens to me every other mission. The curse of being fast.
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Boy, I love the invisibility change. Finally, DE fixed their recent stupid fuck-up.

And I say that as a melee user.
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>>183484739
>DE fixed their recent stupid fuck-up
what do you mean by this? they literally nerfed stealth play again, making enemy awareness instantaneous on any sort of weapon impact, making the stealth melee mult only good for one hit and multishot worthless for stealth kills, and it was some time ago
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Finally
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how much pl would be ok to take if im offering the oberon prime blueprint?
i have that blue print and i dont wanna be scammed
plase i need honest answers.
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>>183485359
warframe market
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>>183484881
>making the stealth melee mult only good for one hit
It was this way forever. The infinite stealth-multipliers from invisibility are relatively recent - they were introduced long after the Shadow Debt event.

Multishot being shit for stealth farming is shit - here I agree, but it isn't really related.

Also, it makes no fucking sense for essentially passive invisibility sources to perform as good or better than Blind sources. And there are still ways to force stealth multipliers with some build, which means the change is ultimately good for the melee meta, as it introduces actual diversity in builds and loadouts.
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>>183484739
>>183484881
What changed?
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>>183485938
Invisibility no longer equals permanent Blind on everything. After a single hit target becomes alerted and you can't have more stealth multiplier hits on it until it calms down (takes about 4 seconds)
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>>183485715
>long after the Shadow Debt event
I'm like 99.99% certain that isn't the case, like I'm pretty sure it was like that before even the archwing event

as for this being an improvement to melee or stealth "meta," I have to disagree simply because this actually just narrows the field of viable options even further and results in players either opting to simply not interact with these systems at all (the majority) or continue to use the increasingly small pool of compatible gear/methods; these changes are never made with consideration for their impact on gameplay, player progression/reward, or overall game flow, but instead reactionary to blunt "statistics" with no context and visibility of anything that might in some way lessen or speed up the grind, and so they act to harm the long-term health of the game (though it is an ever growing and nigh insurmountable task now to actually attempt to rework all of these systems for or fully rebalance a given one through the entirety of its involved numbers and mechanical relationships so I can understand why these piecemeal changes get worked in over time)
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Where is the warframe event at comic con at?
I want to get some pics.
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>>183486012
Why should that matter when you're doing a special takedown animation for like a million damage regardless of what weapon you're even using
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>>183486249
it has nothing to do with the special takedown animation (stealth finisher), but pertains to non-prompted melee attacks of any kind executed against a target who cannot see you
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Has everything aside from the founders shit come back or been tradable at some point? At least in terms of potential mastery sources.
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>>183486379
literally everything except for Excal+Lato+Skana Prime (founders) and Braton+Lato Vandal (end of closed beta), totalling 18k mastery points
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>>183486076
>I'm like 99.99% certain that isn't the case, like I'm pretty sure it was like that before even the archwing event
Well, that good that you've left that 0.01% there - because it IS the case. I was there on Shadow Debt. I was the first person (at least openly) to find out about Maiming and Blood Rush, I was among the first people to find out about the double-dip for status procs, and I was among the first people who thoroughly tested the way invisibility and stealth multipliers work together including the ways to force them which would've made no sense were invisibility to force stealth multipliers by default. And after testing the current invisibility - yes, it works like it used to be.

Also, you have no idea what you're talking about because you know shit about it. I'm sure, you think stealth provides the full x8 multiplier on Maiming Strike slides. Spoiler alert: it does not.

Melee is way ahead of the competition. Tuning it down a bit changes literally nothing for 99% of the game content. The remaining 1% that got nerfed now has more viable options which, in fact, are increased instead of being narrowed down opposed to what you're assuming without knowing shit.
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>>183486541
I don't care what you were the first of or how long you've been here, your ego and your assertions about my knowledge mean nothing - if I'm wrong I'm wrong (and I'd be pleased to find proof of such so that I can be correct in the future) but my experience had indicated that for the majority of its lifespan within the aforementioned time period this particular mechanic has not "expired" on damage or melee impact, but rather direct player contact or any other action which would give a target knowledge of your exact location (the scope of which has increased steadily over the past year or two)

and yes, I'm fully aware that the x8 multiplier does not in fact apply to maiming strike slide crits (or even the entirety of normal crits)

>The remaining 1% that got nerfed now has more viable options
now I actually don't understand what you mean by this, because it sounds like you're shifting the scale of the previous statement and ignoring it entirely
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>excavation on earth
>locate and protect the extractors!
>no extractors spawn
>its been 15mins
nice game
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>>183486249
The multiplier was applying to standard melee attacks so frames that could go invisible from the start of the mission were doing absurd amounts of bonus damage even when the entire map was technically on alert. Also technically a nerf to Naramon since if you were fast enough any frame could get the same bonus.
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Where do I go to farm Orokin Cells?
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>>183487515

Ssturn survival, bring a nekros.
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>>183487515
back in time to draco
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>>183486964
>but rather direct player contact or any other action
So, how is can this be a part of "your experience" if the recent invisibility still provided you stealth multipliers even if you were literally sitting on the enemy? Anon, you weren't paying attention to what you've been doing.

And I don't ignore your statement - I tell you it is wrong. There won't be any "narrowing" in the builds due to the change. Because for the regular content this change does nothing and for the content where invisibility is mandatory the already used weapons and frames already had powerful options to increase their potential as the most important part - survivability and strongest damage multiplier - were already provided by regular invisibility.
Now, access to stealth multipliers will require a tradeoff of using specific frames or specific builds, but that doesn't change the fact the powerful options of said frames still exist. And in my experience of running shitton of Endless, they are viable.
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>>183487515
Ruk

Bring a movespeed rhino so you can ignore his knockdown builshit and a weapon like tigris that can burst hard enough to explode his bullshit weakspots

>>183487608
>draco for cells

haah waaw, if you moved out of the center to pick up loot you were preventing enemies from spawning and shitting up the xp farm
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>>183487680
only shitters would fuck it up during the round, you'd definitely lose some to despawning (much item count) but sweeping at the end of each round with carrier was easy enough, or go back a bit further and
>gmag
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>>183467281
>actual Saryn vore
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>>183487621
>even if you were literally sitting on the enemy
but it didn't, bumping into them seemed to reliably fuck up the ability to get a stealth bonus on melee strike, get a stealth affinity bonus on kill, or execute a melee finisher
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>Complete a solo interception mission with level 30 or higher enemies and a hobbled dragon key equipped without dying or becoming downed
OH COME THE FUCK ON
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damage falloff
DAMAGE FALLOFF
AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRGH
remove it :c
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>>183487961
>seemed
Anon, that's wrong. It fucked up the ability to get your affinity multipliers from stealth kills rolling but it did nothing to the stealth damage multipliers.
As long as the enemy has no target to attack (no other visible players/specters/other shit) and you are invisible - all your attacks would've been stealth multiplied.

Stealth multipliers are the reason some of my builds used to work, to begin with. The least I know is when I get multipliers and when I don't.
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>>183488125
Ember, bere.

>>183488187
Only after you give up being such a colossal faggot
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>>183488125
>unveiling rivens instead of just selling them
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>>183488256
>third ever riven
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>>183488125

Banshee, max range/efficiency, prime flow, need an energy pool of at least 600 for sound quake to last the entire round.

Bring energy restores just in case

Go to xini, cap a,b,d ignore c.

Use sound quake in the center of the map, lock it down, profit.
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>>183478901
>3 day
What? I swear they made arsewings 1.5 days at some point. Or is that just the default Odonata?
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>>183488256
>Running solo Mercury Spy 30 times a day so he has 4s cipher time
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>>183488352
It's still 1.5 days, not sure where anon got 3 days from
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>>183488378
>not naturally accumulating 4s cipher time by doing nothing but max-level starchart and sortie spies
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>>183488459
>by doing nothing but low-level starchart
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>>183488459
>not opening up grineer panels and letting it sit to get 15s ciper time
oh wait that faggot yesterday did it
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>>183481239
>do sortie
>if I got a new riven, unveil it
>it its for a decent weapon, do Kuva floods and reroll it once or twice
>if I get a resource booster from login, run Kuva/relics until it runs out
>log off
And if any Nitain alerts pop up during that short 1-3 hours, I do those in-between, but I don't usually spend any more of my time on this shitty game anymore. Any new weapon that comes out is maxed in 20 minutes and shelved if its shit, or if its potentially decent, has 2-4 forma put in and maxed for another 40 minutes and then shelved because there's too many weapons to care about anymore when my favorite weapons can perform during any Sortie modifier or level thanks to rivens.
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>>183488459
>using ciphers ever
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Is it a banger?
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Is Blind Rage ever worth it?
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>>183489940
Sometimes on some frames in some builds.
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>>183489891
Not unusable in it's current state but you're better off with crit stats
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>>183485715
Being invisible always gave stealth melee bonus, even if you where wailing on the enemy. This has been the case since, I believe Damage2.0 was introduced, because fuck if I can remember how the game was before that except for what the damage types actually were. Its no where near a relatively new thing. I have been exclusively stealth leveling everything since stealth bonus affinity was a thing, and it has always been there and acted that way.
Fuck these stealth stealth nerfs. First it was the 5 second spawn stealth protection, then it was the corpse awareness, then it was melee weapons making noise(now, 90% of the time before your weapon can even hit the fucking enemy you are trying to kill, they hear the blade hitting the floor/wall/box in the millisecond before dying and it breaks the chain), now this cooldown on stealth melee bonus. So now, the only viable way to stealth chain is fucking Ivara and sleep arrows. I didn't include Equinox, because even when asleep, enemies can sometimes be still be aware of you, so you have to be invisible as well to be consistent.
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Wall steak* or wall bacon?
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>>183490265
>has always been there and acted that way
This isn't true anon. It had behaved the current way starting from 2014 and ending by Glast Gambit update.
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>>183490323
Wall rostbiff
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>>183490265
I'm glad it's not just me, I fucking hate the way they've treated stealth as a whole
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>>183490323
What you should be asking is why none of the walls on the moon or derelict ships look like they are or were alive like this one.
It almost looks like whatever building process they employ gathered up organic mass to for some reason form a basic structural support before the typical white and golden walls coated it.
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Hey guys where/how do you get good mods ? I'm lvl 3 and am building a valkyr but i feel like i do so little damage it's actually going to heal the enemies

I have a lvl 30 karak and furis
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>>183492069
Get a better weapon than the karak
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>>183490756
every old shitty pro build on youtube or old forum post or mention of it elsewhere suggests you're wrong, the current shittiness started with u19.5 but before that since at least as far back as u15 the stealth damage bonus was NOT lost after the first strike
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>>183490265
While I dislike their lack of action regarding making invisibility less OP nerfing stealth damage is the next best thing they could do to deemphasize the advantages of it.
Stealth play in Warframe has nothing to do with being tactical because of the way it was used in the beginning, so if they strip it down to the most basic form of survival in order to retool it(in 3 or so years) I'm game.
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>>183492038
It's probably the outside coating inbetween the ship and atmosphere/spess, so you wouldn't see it unless you're going through a hole in the ship that leads to space.

It's also the last living tower (that we know of) so the other towers either had their technomeat petrify into what we see currently, or the technomeat rotted away, leaving only the circuitry.
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>>183492182
The karak is literally my best weapon rn, i picked the game up like last week and had a braton until now, switched to a karak and i can feel that the DPS is much higher but it still lacks, what weapon do you recommend ?
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God fucking damn it.
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I just saw a mesa runnin around with PM on.
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>>183492375
Get in a clan, build the Attica. Build a Tigris from market when you hit MR4. Get a Lex P from relics.
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>>183492375
Rather a normal braton over a karak, you can buy blueprints from the market for normal weapons. You can try the tigris, and then get a tigris prime eventually.
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>>183492319
I'd rather imagine the Orokin nanobots that created their structures having floated all throughout the ocean, turned any wildlife with a significant enough mass into Corrupted drones and let them swim towards the build side, which may even have been underwater, to be turned into some form of insulation for the tower.
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>>183492253
>every old shitty pro build on youtube or old forum post or mention of it elsewhere suggests you're wrong
>every
Go on, find me a video on patch 18 that showcases constant stealth crits.
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>>183492870
alright, while I look for something tangible, you find me one (or anything, not just a video) that proves it behaves the way you insist
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>>183492805
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>>183492375
hek is fun
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>>183493002
https://youtu.be/_d7kdwl61u4

This one is from back then when procs could've douple-dip on stealth so it's easy to see from the procs whether or not stealth multiplier is applied.
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>>183493197
>>183492708
>>183492624
>>183492182
Well i still need to know where to get mods
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I accidentally got a Cyclone Kraken drop, what are some fun machetes /wfg/?
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>>183477458
Why even make Cernos Prime when Rakta Cernos already is a thing.
Same thing for the upcoming Ballistica.
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>>183492575
What a shame, hopefully a new stance would make it viable in the future.

>>183493125
What does KNUHSAG mean?
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>>183493276
>1:43:13
timestamp? that's a lot of footage
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>>183493541

I'm as new as you are, but the wiki tells you where mods come from and there are countless build guides out there that give you an idea of what sort of shit you want to be looking for.

But if you're worried about not doing good damage, maybe consider the advice they all just gave you.
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>>183493541
You'll get a bunch through just playing, wiki tells you where to get a bunch. I can get you into my clan to begin with if you just want some stuff to copy and build and I probably have some spare mods.
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Eyo guys, check out my original new work!
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>>183493541

hi, i started yesterday but already had a high level account

once you unlock more of earth , venus and later mars Lith fissures will appear in the top right corner of the map , join them

A lith fissure mission opens lith era relics , these come from Earth exavation that starts at level 6 or so , lots of high level players do it anyway so join there and get carried , you should leave with 2 -4 relics

now inside the relic mission you must puck 10 golden orbs ( reactant ) to unlock the contents of your relic , I'm recommending this because the special enemies that spawn there serve as a shortcut for getting mods that would take you a lot longer to get , namely infected clip ( poison damage for rifles )

If you see the map of each system there are nodes called junctions , complete the requirements and do them as they give free mods for weapons and frames , after that you can kill Phorid when it rotates to one of the starting planet , do it with others , he drops the un damaged version of stretch fairly often

non damaged Serration and hornet strike come from defense missions , if you see a lith defense mission join it and tag along with the rest , then get endo and credits to level mods , kill some bosses here and there and complete the starchart , the rest of the mods will come to you as you complete the map , keep an eye on alerts
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Is it worth it to do the syndicate stuff at MR6? I was thinking about doing Steel Meridian for the mods to Rhino, Nova and Frost, but I realize that I can't actually use the weapons they unlock for a while.

I guess my question is: how much of a nuisance are the death squads?
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>>183493541
you dont have to worry about mods in some time... just do every node in the starmap, if you cant get past some node, farm earlier nodes, then come back,i think you even got those broken mods from the tutorial. i leveled a little those, till i got the undamaged ones.
Dont rush this game... it has no use
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Is Daikyu useful or just mastery fodder?
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>>183494592
Okay
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>>183493820
1:33:40 is a good example. Heavy Gunner there is getting hit by a stealth-amplified bleed. Every other non-yellow bleed means no stealth-amplify which is the vast majority of everything in the video. Some occasional first hits on enemies do proc stealth multipliers, but that's about it.
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>>183494984
It's fun on earlier levels
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>>183465732
Is it worth continuing with my Excalibur as my main DPS frame or does he become too garbage later on in the game? Don't want to pump a bunch of forma in him and weapons for his builds if there is little use for him late game.
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>>183494805

If you are playing with other the death squads are just free affinity to weapons and frames , they disappear if the person they came for dies so just hide behind a box as your team kills them

Steel meridian has an amazing primary and almost top tier secondary weapon , melee looks cool , they all sell for some plat so it wont be a wasted investment in the future
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>>183495323
>Excalibur
>garbage
:^)
But he might not the most fun to play as. Depends how many potatos and frames you have.
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>>183495323
Eh. Excalibur is worth maxing out and his EBlade can scale over enemy level 1000. However, for the regular content, don't expect it to outperform Atterax in something other than T3 augmented armor sortie.
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>>183495323

Xcal has late game use ( when late game is defined by level 110 enemies in sortie 3 ) it requires a bit of work on the frame but most of it comes from the melee weapon that carries the mods for Exalted blade , he is a pain in the ass to farm anyway so don't trash it
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>>183493731
>What a shame, hopefully a new stance would make it viable in the future.
I know, right? The weapon itself isn't COMPLETELY terrible, but the goddamn stance...
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>>183495490
>>183495568
>>183495598
I enjoy his gameplay quite a bit and I seem to be doing fine with him so far, so I guess I will keep at it if he scales well later on and is a desirable teammate for group content. If not I guess there is always my trinity.
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>>183494984
Imagine a bow opticor with less damage and more status an you'll get the idea
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>vauban prim requires 20 alertium

what the shit steve
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>>183485039
Does the void fag pop up ever again after the one time right after you complete the mission? Can you walk up to him s the operator rather than as the frame as to make sure that it is a hallucination and not the Operator needing an exorcism?
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Harrow's special helmet alert now
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>>183495069
this seems to be proving the reverse of what you're talking about, where she's in fact turning eligible for the bonus some time after losing location awareness for the player - I'm looking and not seeing a case where a melee strike alone causes yellow numbers to subsequently vanish the way I can go and make it happen right now in the game
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>sortie defection
HOOO BOY
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>>183496312
>spy
>infestation
I get that it procedually chooses the mission, but you'd think they'd make an exception condition for that combo
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>>183488187
Zephyr :^)
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>>183496312
Thank you for telling! time for a better looking harrow.
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Anyone happen to have a -puncture Daikyu Riven they'll sell me?
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>>183496767
>Need to steal some sweet-ass intelligence
>Arrive to the ship/outpost/whatever and see it is overrun by infested since the Lotus is a lazy bitch and hasn't kept tabs on the info
>Well hey, data is still intact and the purge is an automated system so get in there anyway

I'm not seeing a problem here anon. Surely you aren't suggesting infested spies are difficult...
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>>183496794
hold on
the thing affects shotguns?
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>>183494592
>tfw no demon fox frame
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>>183494592
That girl's helmet in the background...
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>>183496561
You can go in the game and repeat this exact action. And it'll give you the same exact result.

And what you have told me that all the melee attacks while invisible were supposed to be stealth-amplified - which isn't the case as can be easily seen from the video.
Meanwhile, after the Glast Gambit patch, every single melee attack would've been stealth-amplified.
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>>183496312
ur a lifesaver anon
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>first defection sortie ever
time to see how good bless is in high-level
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>>183497019
only problem I have with them is that the vault guards are usually grineer or corpus,
same as when infested rescues and sabotages have grineer or corpus guarding the prisoner/reactor
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>Defection
>Assault
Oh wow, no ayatan sculpture for me I guess.
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>>183496767
Man what? Infested spy missions are the easiest kind.
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How many waves do you need to do for the defection sortie?
And what the fuck is assault? I haven't played in a while and I don't remember this shit.
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>>183498079
It's the annoying multistage kuva fortress thing
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>>183498309
The one with the archwing laser dodging?
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>>183497976
This time it would be a melee riven for you. That's just the way it's gotta be. Sorry.
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>>183498408
nope the one in which you disable the big gun
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>>183498079
5 groups
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>>183499302
That's a big frame
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what kinda rolls do i want on a quanta riven
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>>183499302
Looking very nice, my Atlas will finally be sexy
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>>183498043
i'm not complaining it's remotely hard, if anything it's easier.
more that it can be buggy as fuck sometimes, because infested don't seem to behave well with spy missions.
on normal spy missions, the AI doesn't cross into spy vaults from outside, whereas infested just ignore that.
sometimes on infested spy, it'll spawn the respective faction of the tileset instead of infested as guards.
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>>183499450
just got damage, multshit and crit chance nevermind
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>>183497110
Flight speed effects damage falloff on hitscan weapons, added/clarified relatively recently (Rivens had apparently already been doing that)

So for a lot of shotguns/pistols it's a 2x multiplier beyond 30m
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>>183499302
>taskbar at the top
mah nigga
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>>183500323
I often have cats and shit blocking the bottom of the screen. ;)
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ME WANT PRIMED SHRED NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ME WANT ME WANT IT ME WANT IT!
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>>183500441
better go forma my zenith to fit primed cyro and primed shred
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>>183500696
>>183500441

Is this fucking real
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>>183500918
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>>183500918
its the 600 day reward
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>>183500696
zenith doesn't want shred, though

what we really need is a primed vital sense or point strike
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>>183501483
firerate helps alot
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Mastery Level 6, just came back after not playing for a long time.
I wanna be powerful, recommend me some guns/frames/builds to get.
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>>183501157
>3 points more
>almost twice as strong
fuggg
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>>183501721
EMBER
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>>183497368
I didn't say that all melee attacks while invisible were amplified, I said that the conditions for losing that bonus were different than what you stated (and I see no proof otherwise): prior to recent fuckery, and for like three fucking years before that, all melee strikes including the first and beyond while still invisible and without having recently been in physical contact or vision range were subject to this bonus
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>>183501721
ignis wraith
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>>183501721
Get Tigris Prime, with it you'll have a gun you can that can take you through the sorties later on
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>>183501483
What they need to do is prevent punch through from affecting the radar disc.
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>>183502189
given there's like ten zenith users, they probably will never fix or buff it

Wish the disc functioned more like the buzlok's homing bullet. Stick it to walls or ceilings, shoot several out to get fuller coverage...
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>>183502097
he is mr6
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>>183502446
They've already buffed it once
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>>183499302
Is that the final base color? Looks like he's taking ques from the Arid Grineer on Mars.
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Know what I find really fucking weird? In all the Corpus missions I've done, I've never found a single Ayatan sculpture on any of their tilesets. You'd think a faction so obsessed with looting Orokin tech would be keeping shit like that around, but I've never found any of it.
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I just want a tank warframe that does not look retarded.

>>183502950
They are usually well hidden behind those barrels in the locker rooms
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>>183502950
That was a cool story, my man. Thanks for sharing.
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UHH THIS IS UHH IRREGULAR UHHH
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I might never get a drop like this from the sortie ever again Still gonna fucking try though
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>>183503086
my warframe is strong.
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>>183499302
Surprised you didn't go for the colossus-style ribbed arms in the end.

Good job on baconframe anyways.
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>>183503047
I've got loot radar on, so they should show up, but no. Nothing, ever.
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>>183492575
you have no idea just how good shaku is. with the right build you can shred armour off anything and build up that combo REAL good
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POST YOUR UGLIEST CATS MOTHERFUCKERS

LET'S SEE IF THEY CAN EVEN TOUCH THIS LITTLE SHIT
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>>183501786
are you memeing/waifufagging or is she actually good?
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>>183502701
yeah someone suggested it in the stream so figured why not.

>>183503169
Yeah it just got very..gaudy with that much glossy metal desu.
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>>183503425
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>defection sortie
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>>183503439
if youre new she is autopilot. You just afk in fissures and come back to collect reactants and pick your rare prize while everyone else manually farms.

You'll be swimming in plat in no time.
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It's time.

Postan THE TIER LIST:

https://pastebin.com/rSmHFVTG

If you have a question about frames or if you're wondering whether a frame is good, check the tier list. Reminder to read the pastebin for up-to-date, optimized builds for almost every frame in the game.

No changes since last time.

If you have a suggestion or disagree with anything in the guide, state WHY.
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>>183503865
stop posting spam
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>>183503865
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>>183503710
people shit on ember because she doesn't scale well into high level enemies but for farming shit? she's top tier
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is bpnpc secretly magnus or someone like that?
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>>183497976
>actually got an anus
Damn you, anon, you jinxed me.
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>>183503710
alright, thanks
what weapon would you recommend? the wraith ignis one?
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Orthos Prime was my favorite weapon back in the day, is it still viable at end game? and if so, whats the best build for it now?
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>>183504434
Condition Overload with 2 dual stat elementals and primed reach off the top of my head.
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>>183504434
Outclassed by Lesion, the new polearm and Tonbo/Tipedo with rivens.
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>>183504162
pls no shoot
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so why do people do sorties?
its not hard yet people seem to have the delusion that it is endgame or post deac
its not rewarding because the 2000 endo meme is still there just in a different form
people are picky about matchmaking because they coudnt do the mission solo and then come here to complain about their daily drama

for what fucking reason?
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>>183505362
Because it's the only mission type in the game that has at least a chance to give you something valuable, and it's also not completely trivial 100% of the time.

TL;DR: It's the best of the worst
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>>183505362
What else is there for an MR 23-24 to do? Looking for sleek and jewing trade chat get boring after a while, at least sorties limit you to 1 a day so you can't do it for 20 hours straight and get everything.
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>>183503865
Is this thing even correct?
>>183503935
I really like those hips and thighs
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>>183504981
>Tonbo with rivens

this nigga knows what's up, this shit is basically the pre-nerf Telos Boltace
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>>183505362
because it's the most difficult content that actually offers good rewards

>b-but rewards are shit
it's the best the game offers. No other way to get Rivens, and the endo rewards are good for people who still need it.

>b-but it's easy
It's not difficult, but it's the most difficult content in the game that's still worth doing. Fuck off with autist-mode endless runs

>>183505878
it's 100% correct
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>>183505878
>Is this thing even correct?
I wouldn't agree with all of it, but it's probably still the most accurate I've seen so far.

Octavia should be good tier with her super stealth and infinitely scaling damage reflect.
Ivara (just use loki baka), Vauban (only good vs infested) and Chroma (masochism: the frame) belong in mediocre imo
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>>183506035
>offers good rewards
>double perma riven rng + kuva rolls to either endo fodder or sell low or hit jackpot by comsuming 5.3 rabbit foot 4 leaf clover stew
>legendary isn't even worth the valve of it's drop rate

im so glad im not this retarded. Jesus Christ
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>>183506437
my mistake
triple perma rng since you have to roll to get a riven in the first place.
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>think today's sortie is going to be hard
>it's actually easier than completely soloable sorties
Am I just stupid?
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>>183506437
What he said is still true though: It's still the best the game offers.

Unless you count running the absolute trashfire that is the Jordas raid for a minimal chance of getting an arcane that's not garbage.
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>>183506437
what other bullshit rewards are there?

farming relics to farm traces to farm worthless prime parts?
farming credits?
farming raids for the 5 good arcanes out of 20 shitty ones?

you're a complete dumbass

>>183506434
>octavia
overrated

>ivara
versatile with ton of cheese potential

>vauban
good vs a lot of shit, best vs infested

>chroma
very easy to self-trigger buffs for permanent damage increases
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don't reply to TQ you morans
you shits should have learned after two years
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>have to fight sentients to unlock riven

so I just go loli mode and shoot them with my lazer so remove their buffs right?
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>>183506941
either that or use nova + your biggest burst damage weapon. i just use my hek and their damage reduction only kicks in when they have a magic pixel of health left
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>>183506756
>vauban
>good vs a lot of shit, best vs infested

to make him work vs grineer/corpus you have to go full range or spam the entire map, at which point you could just use nova or spaghetti nidus
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>>183503935
is that you, nova anon?
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>>183506756
>permanent damage increases

please explain this to a shitter, I thought the buff went away after the ability timer expires
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>>183506941
>pick excalibur
>press 2
>press 4
>smash that motherfucking E button
>sentients are gone

leave and repeat until riven is fulfilled
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If you had to turn one of these into endo, which one would you pick?
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>>183506834
oops i accidentally commented on a backlink. i guess that explains why the reply was beyond stupid.

cant even have a normal conversation without autism getting in the way
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>>183507167
>just one
famiglia i'd melt half of those
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>>183507167
Daikyu, stug, bolto, akmagnus, twin gremlins
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>>183507032
>you have to go full range or spam the entire map
you should do that anyway, even vs infested

he's not as good as nova, which is why nova is higher

>CC nidus
please, not this shit again

>>183507148
that's what I meant. You can self-trigger to instantly max out the damage. It still goes away when the ability ends, but you don't waste time trying to get enemies to hit you
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>>183507167
>Karak and Stug Rivens
Fug you
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>>183505878
>Is this thing even correct?
No, and neither is anything else TQ says.
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>>183503047
We've got some cool looking tank warframes as well as some retarded ones.
>>183503115
DE really put S&A Rivens in a weird spot with how shitty base is and how good Prime is.

Didn't stop them with Nikana Prime and dragon Nikana though.
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>>183507032
That just sounds like you're not very good at bastille placements. Now i'm not saying there aren't better options than Vauban for other factions (there are), but you can absolutely make Vauban work if you use your bastilles properly.
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>>183506941
If you have Nidus, the 4 makes it super easy too. They panic when the maggots jump on them, and you can just pump them with bullets/laser freely and they won't even fight back at all.
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>>183507167
bolto or stug
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>>183507414
if only there was anything but ad hominem in this post, maybe people will actually give a shit
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How do I get the free frost prime if I live in mexico and twitch prime is not available here yet?
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>>183507524
If I could somehow use my Loki fashion on a Rhino I would be happy.
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>>183471189
I like to pretend my Dual Ichor are Haseos starter weps
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>>183507723
Move out of Meheeko
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>>183507378
You mean you want those? I'll give you the stug for free if you post ign.
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>>183507601
If only you weren't a nigger.
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>>183507854
Hey, TQ.
>>
>defection sortie
>FIRE HAZARD defection sortie
fuck my shit up
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>>183507854
>I have no actual arguments related to the game so I'm going to throw insults instead
if only every tierhater didn't resort to this
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>>183507932
It's not that bad, it's still vs. Infested and you only need five squads. Kavor are also level 65 so they don't die that easy.
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It's 2:22 on July 22nd
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>>183508147
and it's the birthday ofthe worst idol in the universe :^)
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>>183507820
Reimoo. I honestly can't take it for free, do you want 20p for it?
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>>183507032
Or, you know, you play with some friends or someone who uses Loki with radial disarm. Then it's the same game.
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>>183507414
Why is it incorrect? What is actually wrong with it?
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>Slap radius onto excal
>That fucking range for his blind
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>>183508786
are you baiting, or do you legitimately want an explanation?
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>>183509183
Oh right, on 4chan you have to clarify when you are being serious. Yes, I want a legitimate explanation.
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>>183507820
You made my day, anon, thank you so much.
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Why is bastille sometimes letting infested get past? This shit is so annoying. And no, I don't have repelling bastille equipped.
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>>183508147
liar
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>>183509325
Frost and loki aren't as good as the list says. limbo belongs in low tier, not mediocre tier.
Ivara should be worse than the list says, since her primary use is just spy missions and some niche farming situations involving beacons.
Banshee is definitely above mediocre tier, as are, in some situations, mirage and octavia.
Hydroid does not belong in low tier at all because of his farming augment allowing for easy aoe farm.
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>>183509619
Have fun
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>>183510120
>Frost and loki aren't as good as the list says
wew lad
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>Running along the cannon in Kuva assault to get to the third console
Pretty fun
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>>183505967
How many meters range with that and Preach
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>>183510270
>t. frost main
nova is honestly a lot more useful for defense than frost because she can speed up enemies, and because if you're not legitimately awful you shouldn't have to worry about the defense target's health since you'll be killing the enemies before they can attack it.
Loki is extremely overrated, what he does can be done with naramon.
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>>183510457
tennocongoy
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>>183510120
so not only do you have no idea how to play the game and have no grasp of how any of the frames work, you haven't read the tier list's grading criteria, laid out in the introduction of the pastebin and RIGHT BELOW THE TITLE IN THE IMAGE

tierhaters are so fucking stupid it hurts my brain. Read the pastebin and mcfucking educate yourself
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>>183510457
Docking
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>>183510457
heavenly pete
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>>183510543
(you)
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>>183510120
Limbo is way better than low tier

>objectively superior mobile defense
>also spy cakewalk
>excav ezpz
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>>183510457
doge xD
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>>183510863
not an argument
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>>183510470
haven't measured the exact distance, but it's insane. Might do a test later.
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>>183510917
try harder, sweetie.
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>>183510878
>trying to reason with a dumbass who has already demonstrated an inability to play the game and no knowledge of recent frame reworks
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>>183510457
Fluff
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>>183511195
nice
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not only should dogposters be banned, everyone who responds should also be banned
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>>183510457
come on now, keep your promise
>>183511195
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>>183503865
>valk
>low tier

LOL
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>>183511175
they literally made limbo worse tho
like cata legitimately just slows the game down. at least before you could hit enemies in it, now it's basically just a tool to annoy anybody who wants to use their nonmelee weapons.
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>>183511395
>everyone who responds should also be banned as I technically respond to it

nice job there reddit
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>>183511439
She is fun to play but can be outperfomed by other frames.
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>>183511395
you should be banned
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>>183510878
he's good for sortie defense, in pretty much any other situation other frames are much more useful.
A frost can do a better job of protecting an excavation or mobile defense target, though most of the time they have so much health that you can just kill the enemies before they even reach it.
any stealth frame can outperform limbo on most spy tilesets.
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>>183511395
I disagree, I like dogposting and think it's funny, even if it does pad the gen with extra posts it's become a shitty tradition for this shitty place for an appropriately shitty reason
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>>183511659
Eternal war builds with how strong melee weapons are now are ridiculous strong though
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>>183511787
higgus
>>
>Rejuvenation
>silver mod more than 5p

ree
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>>183511439
>valk
>anything but low tier
LOL

>>183511468
>>183511757
Limbo's useful for MD and Excavation missions. His entire use is to protect the objective and CC enemies. He fucks over everyone's guns in the process, but that's why you don't use him for those missions where you need to shoot shit. Overall he has a few uses he's very good at, which is why he stays out of low tier.

>>183511789
that's 90% the melee weapon and 10% valkyr. Any frame spamming galatine or meming Atterax can wreck shit. Valkyr's attack speed buff is good but nothing special compared to what other frames can do, and much of its damage is negated by the need for Life Strike.
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>>183511787
>I like dogposting and think it's funny
maybe if you're a sub-80 IQ retard who enjoys tim buckley comics
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>>183512114
>Limbo's useful for MD and Excavation missions. His entire use is to protect the objective and CC enemies. He fucks over everyone's guns in the process, but that's why you don't use him for those missions where you need to shoot shit. Overall he has a few uses he's very good at, which is why he stays out of low tier.
okay, honestly this is understandable.
Thank you for giving a decent explanation instead of a TQ tier nonargument.
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i dont understand. how come when someone brings saryn to Hydron and rushes us to Wave 20 in five minutes, my weapon gains a level each wave. but when i do that as Saryn, i've only gained 1 level in 5 waves.
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>>183512268
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What is actually easier to farm: The normal Nekros or the Prime nekros?
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>>183512336
dont post pictures of me without my permission
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>>183512268
really nigga
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>>183512268
anon...
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>>183512259
I give arguments when other people give arguments. If someone shitposts "ur list sux" or ">valk low tier" I'm not going to bother with a real response
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>>183512414
>>183512446
please tell me. i feel like a fool all this time. im even a high mr
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>>183512480
but even when other people give arguments you literally don't argue, you jsut say "not an argument," "try harder sweetie," or just result to ad hominem.
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>>183512268
You get rewarded more for leeching than killing.
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>>183512268
Ignore the shitposters, basically you gain more XP when others kill whit, it's dumb but that's how it works.
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>>183512268
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>>183512114
She's mid tier at worst
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>>183512571
>>183512578
a-am i at least helping everyone else when i do the saryn thing
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>>183512685
Every time I try to be credit to team and bring Saryn to defenses, I end up on a team with an Ember and an Equinox or some other silliness.
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>>183512567
I always give arguments if the other guy gives arguments

>>183512620
she has 0 utility
she's a shit tank
she's only good for melee spam which every frame is capable of

there is not a single instance where I would ever choose Valkyr over any other frame, or want a Valkyr on my squad
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>>183512685
You're helping level their weapons very quickly, yes.
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>>183512940
that's good enough for me. im about to hit mr24 and will likely never need it myself, but it's nice to know i can help speed clanmates very quickly
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>>183512989
Now that you mentioned being MR23 and not knowing how XP works, be prepared to get shit on. Have a good day though!
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>>183512989
>being MR23
>not knowing how XP works
HAHAHA GET SHIT ON

HAVE A GOOD DAY THOUGH HAHAHA
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>>183513213
>>183513313
i will, ty
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>>183512259
He also trivializes rescues at any level.

>shift into void
>run to friendship door
>stasis if there's shit about, unshift, open door
>break out the schmuck
>shift
>extract
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>>183513405
Or you could use any fast frame and finish the mission in less than 30sec because who the fuck cares if the hostage is down?
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>>183513405
I mean honestly rescures are pretty trivial already.
Just enter through the side entrance, rescue the hostage, and run to extraction.
It doesn't even matter if they're downed since if you get to extraction before they die it still just marks it as a mission success.
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>>183512620
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>>183507723
sometimes i hate our contry anon
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Is it better to run justice blades or berserker?
Did someone here calculated Where is the point when speed > damage?
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>>183512578
>it's dumb
It'd be stupider if everyone gained the most XP from personal kills. Then we'd have everyone constantly complaining about kill stealing, and as opposed to now rightfully so.
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>>183513614
>limbo with speed mods is signifcantly slower than zephyr/loki
Haha
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>183512902
>she has 0 utility
war cry buffs your team mates too
also she can rez while hysteria :^)
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>>183514337
have you played nezha?
or volt?
also any frame can complete rescues quickly, it's probably the most basic game mode.
You might as well argue that ember trivializes sabotage.
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>>183514185
You can have both mate, right now there's no incentive to even kill things because you work more and earn less, comparatively. Keep the current system (= no kill steal, everyone who contributed get his share) but make it more rewarding to yourself for actually contributing more.
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Easiest/cheapest way to do those "get 3 headshots while in the air" from Riven unveils?
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>>183515656
Limbo 4 + 2
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>>183515656
Loki in a corpus map with the air vents

>>183515736
Limbo ain't cheap
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>>183515656
Vauban
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>>183515656
corpus gas city
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>>183515967
>Do quest
>Get limbo as part of quest
???

>>183516057
This. Float on the air vents and wait for enemies to come to you.
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>>183516112
>Float on the air vents and wait for enemies to come to you.
not possible since DE's AI is retarded. wait for them to come to you then float on the vents
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>>183516112
Wrong. That quest isn't as simple as you make it out to be.
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>>183515967
Ask for a friend's help, the limbo doesn't have to be yours.
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>>183516396
I don't believe it
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>>183516297
>That quest isn't as simple as you make it out to be.
It's one of the most trivial warframe quests in the game, though. You don't even need to collect the parts.
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>>183516198
Yeah.
>>183516297
It's literally just a bunch of excavation missions. Besides, they just fixed the quest recently so you can get the parts much easier. I f you seriously can't figure it out you might be retarded.
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>>183516396
n-nani
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>>183516485
>It's literally just a bunch of excavation missions.
and archwing interceptions. not that those are hard, I solo'd limbo's quest after coming back from a huge hiatus, I had not idea the best way to do an interception and had never played archwing aside from the fucking archwing quest itself.
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>>183516297
Wrong. That quest is as simple as he makes it out to be.
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>>183516396
Fuck he looks good.
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>>183516396
I love it
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>>183516396
his shoulders look like air bags
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>>183516396
Damn you, making me spend money, at least you post here earlier so my wallet can be ready.
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>>183516396
atlass
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>>183517120
..damn you. how could I have missed that pun,
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>>183516396
Moreover, he has a fucking HEAD.

great work as always, you beautiful fuckstallion.
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>>183516396
the lack of squiggles breaks my heart, but you did a real good job and I hope people buy loads of it
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>>183514048
Condition Overload is more more damage than justice blades.
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>>183516961
I'll go over the shoulder sculpt again tomorow and try to add some more musculuar bits to it so it wont look like that.

>>183517648
squiggles are coming, still finalising that bit though, this is coloring WIP. lower half isnt touched yet.
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>>183517717
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whats my next forma

More V or - or D
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>>183518231
never EVER put a D on it
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what must be sacrificed to ensure inaros and saryn never get nerfed
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Local Druid arrested for public indecency
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>>183518558
Why would they ever nerf Inaros?
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>>183518637
pocket sand + covert lethality
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>>183518637
>he lacks the relevant knowledge
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If you want to use melee, there's no reason to use anything other than meming atterax.

If you don't want to slide everywhere like a faggot, there's no reason to use anything other than galatine P.

It's amazing how 2 weapons completely invalidate an entire category.
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>>183518728
At least it's double the options of good weapons primaries have.
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>>183516396
Now do the same for Nezha
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>>183518637
negation swarm
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>>183518392
>he doesn't want Primed Cryo Rounds
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>>183518637

Because DE hates fun?
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>>183518728
Zenistar, anything w/ decent status and condition overload come to mind.

Also CL for kill anything memes.
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Would someone kindly share their Akstilletto build?
Scored the set for 60p and have no idea what the hell I'm doing. Status chance looks amazing though.
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>>183465732
Hi, I started almost 3 weeks ago and want to join.

And a haiku:

A game of grind
I am into the autism
Of losing time
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>>183519770
crit, two dual stats, primed heated charge.
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Anyone who went to TennoCon and didn't trash the hotels, thanks! I work at two of the hotels and there was way less vandalism from TennoCon than either of the previous events.
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>>183518728
>he doesn't know how to use the hirudo
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>>183519950
>3 weeks
>mr 9

What the fuck how do these people do it
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>>183519950
>8s
Blacklisted
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>>183520335
my dick has more range than hirudo
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>>183519950
I'm genuinely confused. How the fuck do people mess up these simple as fuck instructions every thread. THERE'S 4 FUCKING STEPS. 4.
B L A C K L I S T E D
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>>183520405
dude i have no idea i've play on and off for 3 years with 500 hours played and i'm only mr3
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>>183520873
what step did he miss?
posted MR with his IGN, linked to the OP, has his cipher time / played time and wrote a poem thing
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>>183521424
I need a screenshot, this honestly seems unbelievable
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>>183521770
it is unbelievable
i meant to type mr13 kek
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>>183520468
>>183520873
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>>183521719
>3. Link to the OP and post your IGN.
>>
Tell me what clan weapons to build.
>>
>>183521424

>Never changes weapons
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>>183521914
he linked to the OP and his IGN is in the screen shot
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How soon until Rebecca is pregnant with a mixed baby and everyone quits Warframe
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>>183476442
That doujin was god-tier.
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>>183522305
I hate niggers so I'll quit for sure.
>>
Anyone want to trade a burst laser riven for a deconstructor or vulklok one?
>>
>>183522032
i imagine people who are low MR relative to their play time either

1. only level meta weapons
2. only level shit they are actually interested in using
>>
>>183522156
>ign isn't in the post itself
They're simple instructions so idiots fuck them up.
>>
>>183521938
Hema
>>
Where is the best place to farm Neo N7 relics? I just want that damn Nekros P. Sys.
>>
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>try sortie 2 solo as ember
>got 1 squad to safety
>suddenly get instant killed
>wtf
>revive and keep going
>get instant killed again
>see a venn mutalist
why the fuck do they exist, including the mutalust ospreys who fire projectiles asell. it's near impossible to CC them along with the fact that they're in the air. one of the worst enemy designs DE has ever come up with
>>
>>183518728
if it has good enough crit chance berserk can save it's low damage to high dps instead e.g. hirudo
kogake even
>>
>>183522720
>Farming Prime parts: https://www.war.farm/index.php
op has this pretty good resource
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>>183499302
Please do Ivara Graxx. I want the B U T T.
>>
>>183518629
I really wish they gave you the option to remove the cloth parts on frames.
>>
What the fuck is Defection
>>
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>>183503573
>GoldenEye 64
>>
>>183522973
It's the diminutive of defecation
>>
>>183504360
anyone? mr6
>>
>>183522973
It's a lot like mobile defense except what you're defending is mobile
>>
Is every melee weapon build ever just
blood rush
60/60 lightning mod
60/60 toxic mod
primed reach
primed pressure point
berserker
drifting contact
organ shatter

Because I think this shit works for nearly every weapon out there, i guess you could just use straight 90% damage mods for the corrosive
>>
>>183522973
Escort mission with lemmings and DE AI
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I had forgotten how small and cute he was.
>>
>>183523306
yes unless you have maiming strike then i think you drop one of your elemental mods for it
>>
>>183523410
clem
>>
>>183514697

I saw one of these fags just afking in neo fissures and you knew he was doing it on purpose.

When I got in the next round I had Loki.

And Loki is love.

Teleported him to the middle of the map and watched him die.
>>
>>183523306
I think you can probably do some shit with weeping wounds and another combo boosting mod instead of the elements and it can be just as good but yes, generally that build is the be all end all for how you build melee weapons right now
>>
>rescue kuva
>rescue target is down only 1 player is up
>lets rescue die and tries to revive a player

Mastery should have hardcore versions of missions types as tests with step by step walkthroughs so people understand how missions work instead of just jumping on platforms or shooting red balls.
>>
>>183523672
you know i really like kuva fortress and it's a shame it's so underused in sorties
>>
>>183523306
yep that build works for 90% of the melee weapons right now

it will work on an atterax
it will work on a galatine
it works on boltace
it'll fucking work on a skana
>>
>>183523895
Assault is a cool mission and I wish it existed on other tilesets.
>>
>get sorties
>lvl 50-100

sheeit can I just go in with my favorite frame and get carried through it. I usually just hang out in lvl 45 content I don't think I'm ready :(
>>
>>183499302
Not really sld on the red fingers. It looks like it got his nails done or fingerless autism gloves.

Aside from that it's 10/10
>>
>>183522912
no faggot
>>
>>183523672
I have to catch myself at times because I'm already ready to curse them out but then I remember "I'm going to report you."
>>
>>183524142
>DE puts a fuckton of work and effort into one thing
>a week later the player base abandons it
nothing new there
>>
>>183524306
Learn Trinity, no one cares that a Trinity is dealing 5% damage as long as they keep buffing and healing.
>>
>>183524478
>Likes Ivara butt
>Faggot

You want it to be one way, but it isn't that way Nezhafag
>>
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>>183524478
If you don't like girl butts that is actual faggotry.
>>
>>183524576
It's a shame, doing it at sortie 3 difficulty actually felt like a balls-out assault by four superpowered space ninja should go blowing shit everywhere while saving innocents in the nick of time. But there's just little reason to do it as a normal star chart mission after clearing it once. DE should bring the caches back at least.
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>kuva flood
>two people leave after the objective and before the siphon is found
>>
when are they gonna remove this dumb rifle/shotgun/sniper ammo thing and just make ammo types into primary and secondary
>>
Is it worth it to farm Nekros or should I directly go for Nekros Prime(if I don't care for the MR)?
>>
>>183524619
>>183524734
>liking girl butts
>not gay
choose one
>>
>only have to wait 5 days for my Equinox to finally be finished
I'm glad it only took me a few hours over two days to get all the parts I needed. The aspects still should only have a 1.5 day wait though, since they're half a frame.
>>
>>183525183
Prime is more simple to farm.
>>
>>183525287
it's not gay if the girl also has a dick
>>
>>183527374
this desu
>>
>>183522861
I was wondering what kept killing me in that.
>>
>>183518558
I can sacrifice the ugliest cat in the solar system.
>>
>>183527803
I don't believe your cat is that ugly.
>>
>>183527906
It is. >>183503425
>>
>>183517926
So, who's next?
>>
What is the minimum flight speed for an explode on impact Tonkor? Wiki seems to imply it is 234, is that reachable by Rivens without a Zephyr augment?
>>
>>183528281
Please tell me you named it wilford brimley.
>>
>>183528281
that's a cute cuddleboy
>>
>>183521869
>>183520405
I've been using the wiki a lot and pretty much always run with one or two leveling weapons and one to carry myself through missions.

I bought Ash with $ when I started too because I had a % off thingy, it was a retarded buy but he's good for cheesing stuff

I could use some friends, it's why I'm posting here, I usually just lurk.
>>
>>183523306
is this end game worthy?
>>
>>183529373
>End Game
It'll let you bring almost any melee you want into sorties.
>>
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>havent played in 2 years
>decide to restore my password
>met with this
as i take it, im fucked?
>>
>>183529373
>he still thinks there's an endgame
that's kinda cute, actually.
>>
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>>183503425
She ended up with a good-looking face but she probably has the worst color scheme.
>>
>>183529838
>>havent played in 2 years
Send in a ticket saying so; its a "precaution ban"
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>>183529941
wrote about it today, still no answer
>>
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>>183530537
>today is saturday
nvm, im fucking retarded
>>
>>183530537
I got a reply in the same day, they'll fix it soonish.
>>
Ceramic dagger alert is up
>>
>>183529941
>precaution ban
For what?
>>
>just started playing on pleb s 4
What have I gotten into
>>
>>183531217
Basically being away for too long and instead of saying so they use the already in place ban system which leads to posts of "Banned?? Havent played in [time]!"
I suppose its in case someone tries to get your account or something?
>>
>Playing conclave
>One guy actually sticks the buzlok beacon and the shots fucking track me while I'm dashing across the map
Damn. I wasn't aware it was working that good.
>>
WHAT KIND OF CLEM?!?
>>
>>183496263

From what I understand and I've tested and experienced this myself.

It always shows up 100% right after the quest, if you try to see him with your operator in that very same moment he's not there when you reach him and he also has a % change to be hanging around on your ship after every mission.
>>
>>183529929
You can buy all the cat colors from the market.
>>
>>183531801
>playing conclave
forum-shitter please go
>>
>>183532214
I want those cosmetics.
>>
Should be renamed WaifFrame
>>
>>183531801
That's pretty cool.
>>
>>183522958
I wish they removed the goat legs.
>>
Is the Hema good?
>>
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rate my autism
also, what would make this spreadsheet more complete?
>>
>>183522958
Not appreciating DE's hard work for what it is. How dare you ask DE to remove things that are cleary for auxiliary? You just can't ask DE to make FashionFrame easier for us. You just want to stare at butts.
>>
>>183527906
i think its cute. is it smeeta or adarza? what color are the eyes?
>>
what in the absolute FUCK is today's sortie
who thought that was going to be okay
>>
>>183533282
suck it up and do it you dolt
>>
>>183532986
Adarza. Light blue.
>>
>>183532370
>>183503935
>>
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Not even Chroma would survive
>>
Is the Grinlok worth a tater with its augment mod? I want a real, hits like a truck lever action rifle that isn't the (Dex) Sybaris (Prime)'s weird burst fire.
>>
>>183533282
the sortie wasn't that bad though, it was nice to have assault in there, defecation though, not so much
>>
>>183532647
it's not awful, but it's not even remotely worth the actual cost for the research.
>>
>>183534150
No it's complete and utter shit
>>
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>>183534150
it's outclassed, but feels real good to use

a crit riven makes it almost as good as it should be
>>
>>183533282
They were really easy today. None of that Low Energy shit either.
>>
>have to spend 20p just to be allowed the privilege of having another frame and then another 20p for the needed potatoe
>>
>>183534309
Nyx more like Thyx
>>
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>>183534629
>>
What's the best Aura mod to use? Or is it frame dependent?
>>
>>183535205
Corrosive projection
>>
>>183535205
corrosive if your a crit babby
>>
>>183535205
There's some that are really fucking good (Corrosive Projection) or entirely too situational (any of the Scavenger auras) but any Aura that fits the frame's polarity slot is better than none, because it's free mod points. You can always put a forma on a favorite frame later.
>>
>>183534159
Sortie-worthy at least?
>>
>>183535205
CP, Energy Siphon, Growing Power
>>
Why do people use Energy Conversion on things like EB??? Am I missing something or isn't a mod slot wasted on 50% damage more on a single cast of your blade WHEN it drops energy orbs???
>>
>>183535734
This is bait right? If not it applies to EB on the cast and last forever until you deactivate EB.
>>
>>183535734
>pick up energy orb
>gain 50% extra str on your EB when you cast it
>buff remains until you decast it

aint that hard my dude
>>
What do you do when someone AFKs through a whole invasion survival mission?
>>
>>183535969
Run next to them and Prowl
>>
>>183535969
Join them.
>>
>>183535969
Give me your alias
>>
>>183535956
>>183535942
I have to come clean

I am completely retarded and did not know it worked that way
>>
>There is people that actually got the Dakra Prime to use it and not just for fodder
Why
>>
>>183532214
Please, every time someone post a pvp-related topic, they shit it with "muh development time wasted" and "muh pve game"
>>
>>183536803
It looks good anon no bully
>>
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>>183536693
it's okay, just always remember to check the spoiler
>>
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since when did defection mission have time limits
>>
>ended playing soon after the second dream

aight how fucked am i returning now
>>
>>183536803
It used to be the strongest one handed melee in the game with CD on.
>>
>>183537051
Can you banish the defectors? I only played that type of mission once solo, might be good to know.
>>
>>183537168
yes, but i remember it not preventing the gradual health loss

the defectors sleeked and didn't lose HP at all the whole time regardless of me banishing them
>>
>>183534129

Maybe not your bitch tier chroma,
>>
>>183537245
>the defectors sleeked and didn't lose HP at all

Same thing happened in my run. Thank fuck for that because I detest this mission type and it went by much faster this way.
>>
>>183536404
Why?
>>
What's the condition of the nightmare mode on Armaros and why doesn't it say on the map?
>>
>>183538026
isn't it always no shields if it's a nightmare alert?
>>
>>183538026
>Condition
Pretty sure nightmare alerts are just "No shields"
>why doesn't it say on the map?
"Fuck you" - DE
>>
>>183538081
not always
>>
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>want to go with a western color pallet for Mesa
>it just doesn't "pop"
I mean, it's not unappealing per se, but I just can't figure out how to keep the western feel while making her stand out.
>>
>>183538081
I don't understand how it works to be honest, sometimes you have no shields in the mission but it wasn't written on the star chart. The only mission you're certain you WILL have your shields in nightmare is if it's a hijack, otherwise it's pretty much down to luck because it's not coherent with what is written anyway.
>>
>>183538501
>>183538501
>>183538501
>>183538501

new ded
>>
>>183538509
need some red in there
>>
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is this a good riven for grinlock? at max rank it's 80-89-79%
>>
>>183538509
Get a darker brown and a paler yellow
Contrast is key
>>
>Had to backstab Nox atleast 9 times to kill him
Holy shit this sucks so fucking hard fix when
>>
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>>183539436
adorable
>>
>>183514048
Justice Blades aren't a generally viable mod. There are much better alternatives, especially if you're running a Riven. Primed Fury, Berserker, Condition Overload - all tend to be much better than Justice Blades.

The only build I can see using Justice Blades is a pure bleed-oriented build and even then you're unlikely to have mod space for the mod.
>>
>>183519374
No, on Prisma Grakata you don't.
>>
>>183523306
Pretty much. Although, I wouldn't use Primed Reach on a non-spin weapon.

Viable deviations from that build would be Maiming Strike builds, Condition Overload builds and build for EBlade, I guess.
>>
I thought the arcwing shit was the worst shit ever conceived by man. Then they showed me an underwater level. What the everloving fuck?
>>
>>183540223
This is an incorrect post
>>
>>183542497
You can't argue with math, but you can skip doing the math and argue without knowing it. Which is what you're doing right now, darling.
>>
>>183542929
Then post the math
>>
>>183543257
Nah, you were retarded so I don't feel like doing anything for you. And the thread is about to die anyway.
>>
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>>183543498
Ah, no math
I see
>>
>183543605
If (You) are too stupid to do something it doesn't mean it doesn't exist, darling. But you can think otherwise if that makes your ignorant life easier. ^;)
>>
>I am right because I say I am right
>>
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>when the sub mr10 trinity prime on your team doesn't EV, heal or bless even when you ask them to
well then
why the fuck are you playing that frame you cuntbag
>>
>Hind is even terrible in Conclave
want a waste of Neurodes.
>>
ANOTHER DAY
ANOTHER ANUS SCULPTURE
>>
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>>183465732
I guess If I join any clan I might as well join this one.

>In game name
JcEnderion

>poem/story

Warframe oh, Warframe
How I farm and farm even more
But it is never enough.
>>
>>183540223

>double damage all the time
>not viable
>darling

tq outs himself again
>>
>>183548361
>AIDS
Blacklisted
>>
>>183550485
I only got a couple hours left till I can drain it into an aids pet.
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