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YGO General #2549
Buy Links (TCG) Edition
Last Thread >>182485659

● YGOPro is an automated simulator.
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>the link ygopro was finally added
good job OP
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>>182610331
?
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>>182610924
>the link ygopro was finally added
good job OP
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>>182610429
At this point, I really can't tell what's worse.

The fact that Ash exists or that the game has advanced to a point which caused Ash to exist.
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>>182611168
Both.
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>>182610924
Meant linux.
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Go fast
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>>182611302
FUCK YEAH

INITIAL D / SPEED RACER / REDLINE ARCHETYPE

LET'S FUCKING DO THIS SHIT

I FEEL THE NEED FOR SPEED MOTHERFUCKERS
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>>182611302
Prediction: Their gimmick will be moving columns to represent racing across the board, with powerful effects that activate if the opponent doesn't control a monster and/or spell/trap in the same column as them.
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>>182611302
Reminder that since these are based on U.A, the other archetype is going to be based on Burning Abyss.
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>>182611302
>>182611463
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>>182611302
>>182611463
>>182611579
EVERY NIGHT AND DAY
WIND IS ON MY FAAAAAAAACE
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>>182611302
They're gonna be trash. Utter trash. You all know it, too.
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>>182611463
>>182611579
>>182611653
Were these shitty memes here for Metalfoes too?
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>>182611302
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1_QqVOrMGU
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>>182611515
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>>182611878
Meh, I'm sure it wouldn't be the first time they reused an old mechanic. Plus it's not like anyone uses Alien Infiltrator anyway, it doesn't even help Aliens.
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>>182611849
no, more on just being igknight2.0 and akira
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What should I run in my dark world deck lads?
I've been gone since 2014 so I'm completely out of tune with everything.
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>>182612441
Paleozoic Dinomischus
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>Subterror support
>Cant be flipped face-down
>Cant be revived by fiendess
>Can only be summoned with behemoths
>Can only summon other behemoths... from the hand
>Tutor effect only triggers when other behemoths activated

I thought KoA was bad at archtype design but KoJ just reached a whole new level of shit, how is this even possible?
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>>182612776
>"Subterror support"
>in actuality it's better for literally every other Flipdeck
pottery
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>>182612776
It's actually Link support for Crawlers/other Flip decks under the guise of being Subterror support.
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>>182612915
I wonder if this wasnt intended for shaddoll link support and some intern screwed over with a hell of a typo, its literally god-tier in shaddolls
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>>182612776
It's not like the SPYRAL card is that much better. Putting it behind the awful "top of their deck" gimmick completely ruins it. It should've just been a simple, special summon a guy from the deck, no gimmicks, no frills.
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>>182612547
Wait but that's a cost right?
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>>182613054
If you take away every archetype's gimmick, then what's the point of having archetypes?
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>>182613054

Thats the whole fucking point of the deck. Do you want every archetype to be exactly the same?
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>>182613054
t. has literally never played SPYRALs
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>>182613163
Nope, Dinomischus is one of the few cards that actually discards as part of the effect, so it works with Dark Worlds.
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>>182613326
I'd like to actually be able to use the card without having to use a shitty gimmick like Drone thank you
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>>182613054
Are we pretending it is actually hard to set up the "Top of their deck" effect?
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>>182613170
>>182613264
gimmicks should be a strength or unique feature of a deck, not a restriction. making them jump through more hoops than other decks to do the same thing isn't good card design, letting them do something other themes can't would be.
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>>182613054
Cant tell if trolling or shitter
>Quick Fix + Machine Duplication:
>Summon Quick Fix (Search Big Red)
>Activate Machine Duplication, Summon 2 Quick Fixes (Search Last Resort and Drone)
>Link Summon Double Helix
>Special Summon 1 Quick Fix by Discarding Big Red (Search Fully Armed)
>Activate Big Red targeting Drone.
Drone Looks at enemy top deck.
>Use Double Helix's effect to special summon Super Agent from Deck
>Link Summon Proxy Dragon using Super Agent and Drone, place it under Double Helix.
>Xyz summon Lyrilusc Recite Starling using the two Quick Fixes, detach one to search Sapphire Swallow
>Use the two quick fixes in graveyard to special summon itself.
>Overlay two Quick Fixes to summon another Lyrilusc Recite Starling, detach one to search Turqoise Warbler.
>Link Summon Gaiasaber under Double Helix using Proxy Dragon and a Recite Starling
>Use Sapphire Swallow's effect to special itself and Turqoise Warbler.
>Warbler use eff to special summon the Recite Starling in graveyard.
>Send all 4 Lyriluscs to GY, Link summon Firewall Dragon to the right of Gaiasaber.
>Special summon Quick Fix.
>Send Saber and Quick Fix for second Firewall Dragon
>Special summon two quick fixes
>Send the remaining quick fix with double helix to summon third Firewall Dragon
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>>182613332
Well shit, then it's a karma cut that works with an upside, what is the 2 star used for, Synchro?
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>>182613492

>knowing what your opponent is gonna draw
>not a strength

maybe if you're a scrub who doesn't know what to do with the information you gain
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>>182613054
t. shitter

>Predaplant + quik fix + agent
>Normal predaplant combo, search brilliant fusion
>Rank 3 into invoker, SS agent from deck
>Link 2 into missus radiant.
>Brilliant fusion for a second normal
>Normal quik-fix, search big red
Big red agent back
>Link 2 into double helix
>Use agent in hands SS effect to check opp top deck (if you call right you have an extra agent, wrong you still know their top deck)
>Use knowledge of topdeck to SS Master plan from deck with helix.
>Search spyral mission assault or rescue depending on if you want to ss from hand or grave.
>Link 3 with missus radiant and master plan for decode talker
>Search resort and sleeper.
>Use resort to search a second quik fix.
>Drop quik fix to SS quick fix from grave, search last resort
>Drop mission to SS quick fix, search fully armed.
>Rank 1 into princessprite with 2 quik fixs, draw or foolish top card.
>Link 4 into firewall with princessprite and decode talker.
>Banish mission to get another SS if desired. If you called right with agent from hand you could get a second helix off this.
>SS your two quik fix back, you can search and drop gears to use as discard fodder as you do this.
>Link 4 with helix and two quik fix for 2nd firewall dragon
>Banish 3 to SS sleeper. Attach last resort.
>Attach fully armed to second helix if you have it.
>End Result: two firewall dragon, Sleeper + last resort, spyral resort, and possibly a helix with fully armed attach.

You are right shitter, double helix is clearly useless
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>>182613375
You don't even need to use Drone. You just need to use literally any reveal effect. Agent or whatever.
Even if you don't make the right call it still reveals the top card so that you can make the right call for all subsequent effects.

And that said. Double Helix is a great addition to the deck even you were to disregard its effect entirely. It's an L2 Link with a downward arrow. That has 1900 ATK and is a SPYRAL.
That is a lot better than Proxy Dragon that was weaker, wasn't recognized a SPYRAl, and didn't even have a downwards arrow. But it still did great work.
By the end of the day the fact that it allows you to dump monsters from the field to the graveyard is by itself worth it. Merely summoning it forwards your game. The fact that it has a great effect is only merely icing on the cake.
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>>182613640
No, Paleozoic is its own deck (a rank 2 Xyz focused one), Dinomischus just happens to have a good generic effect.
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>>182613771
Additionally, it's treated as Super Agent.
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>>182613492
Wtf are you retarded? if you know what your opponent is gonna draw you can set-up your field to play around it, its called read moves, unless ofc you suck at the game
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>>182611515
>You have to play them in the leftmost column
>The further right they move, the better their effects
>You can have them jump over each other to represent overtaking
>The EMZs are pitstops they can temporarily enter for protection
>Making it to the rightmost column is a wincon
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>>182614262
That's what I was thinking initially, but I think it would be too wordy to fit that much on a card.
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>>182614579
>This card can only be Summoned or Set to your leftmost Main Monster Zone. At the end of the Damage Step, if this card attacked: Move it to a Main or Extra Monster Zone adjacent to an "F.A." monster you control. This card in your Extra Monster Zone cannot be destroyed by battle or card effects. When this card is in your rightmost Main Monster Zone, you win the Duel.
Not wordy at all. How's my script?
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>Parshath is an archetype now
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>>182615519
So... how are you moving them to an adjacent zone if you only control one of them?
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>>182615627
It doesn't say "other F.A. monster".
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>>182615625
The big head's tongue is a dick too>>182615712
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>>182615712
>Move it to a Main or Extra Monster Zone adjacent to an "F.A." monster

...ok
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>>182615882
Yep. And since it itself is an F.A. monster, then it can move to any zone adjacent to itself.
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>>182615519
I guess I was expecting the "the further right they move the better the effects" part to be on each card, but those effects could be applied to the spells/traps instead. Also Senet Switch ban if this happens
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>>182616064
Sure, there a lot of possibilities. The only reason senet is """bad""" is because it was a dropped concept that Konami had zero interest in pursuing until right now. There's a shitload of different things you could do other than the simple Shut Line stuff they've been putting out. Magibullets, Weathery, and Link Markers are a basic example.
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>>182616064
honestly any card that gets a alternative win con is a time bomb and Konami nerfs it to oblivion just to discourage people from running it, and I rather have a playable archtype albeit a weird but workable mechanic than a bunch of unplayable and super nerfed pieces of cardboard
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>>182615625
Hope this turns out good. Parshath has always been pretty cool
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>>182616334
This. Konami goes out of their way to make alternative win cons absolutely unfeasible.
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>>182615625
>tfw no degenerate handfucking mefist archetype
why live
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>>182616435
I hope it doesnt, not for parshat itself, I think it has some sick designs, but for the whole counter trap support, its already unfunny to play around a fag who opened doible strike warning and I dont want that play style to be more consistent, counter traps are dumb because their inherent spell speed makes them almost unanswerable
>inb4 hurr hurr dont overextend hurr hurr
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>>182616527
Are there any good cards that use axes or halberds?
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>>182616696
I'm just hoping for a Sanctuary in the Sky retrain that is good generic Fariy support.
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>>182616814
Its basically a shittier trasher, but its still playable and has a halberd, so... yay?
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>>182616814
>>182616939
sorry, forgot pic
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>>182616696
SS3 is a weird thing, though it's the only way set cards can be worth anything

>>182617108
Shame that Heroics never amounted to much but a decent engine and xyz for other warriors to use
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>>182616814
Broadbull
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>>182617283
he said good, not cancer
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>>182617108
>1800 atk
>piercing
maybe this is the mefist retrain we need
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>>182616696
Just remember that the new Counter Trap support is for a format with Duster at 1 and Strike at 2 but Judgment at 1
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>>182617226
I dunno, Rhongy.dek is still pretty fun.
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>>182618273
It is, it's just also not particularly great
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>>182613531
>Special Summon 1 Quick Fix by Discarding Big Red (Search Fully Armed)
>Activate Big Red targeting Drone.

>discard Big Red
>then activates it
Heh.
LL bricks by the way.
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>>182619091
He just copied and pasted from Reddit without even fixing the mistake
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>Fix+Dupe
>NS Fix A
>search Big Red
>Dupe Fix
>search Drone and Drone
>Fix B+Fix C into Link Agent
>Fix B discard Drone SS itself
>Fix B search Drone
>Big Red SS Drone
>Drone effect
>Link Agent SS Master Plan
>Master Plan search Rescue
>Fix A+Master Plan into Proxy
>Master Plan search Resort and Sleeper
>Drone+Fix B into Dullahan
>Dullahan detach Fix target itself
>Fix discard Rescue, SS itself
>Fix search Last Resort
>Rescue SS Master Plan
>Master Plan search Rescue

>Proxy+Dullahan into Gaia
>Gaia+Master Plan into Firewall
OR
>Master Plan+Dullahan+Proxy into Firewall

>Fix discard Rescue SS itself
>Fix search Last Resort
>Fix+Fix into Dullahan
>Rescue SS Master Plan
>Master Plan search Rescue
>Dullahan+Master Plan into Proxy
>Dullahan return other Dullahan
>Firewall SS Last Resort
>Rescue SS Master Plan
>Master Plan search Assault
Hand: Resort, Sleeper, Drone, Rescue, Last Resort
Field: Agent, Firewall, Proxy, Master Plan, Last Resort
Spyral in grave: 3 Fix, 3 Drone, Big Red
ED used: 2 Dullahan, Link Agent, 2 Proxy, Firewall, Gaia

Okay, I gives up.
It's getting harder and harder to keep track of the field and stuff.
Sleeper+Last Resort+Resort is pretty much guaranteed in the end field.
I predict it'll end in like, 3 Firewall, Utility Wire with Link Agent.
Maybe there's also a chance to Extra Link? Dunno.

Just give me Link, percy, then I can make a replay out of this.
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So are SPYRALs going to be meta or not? Give me the objectively correct answer, please.
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>>182619831
Perhaps, maybe.
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>>182619831
>meta
Maybe like Tier 2-ish, depending on how hard KoA hits Zoo, True Draco and Dinos.
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>>182619831
Who cares?
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>>182619831
They get curb stomped by Ultimate Conductor Tyranno, and also by Struggling Battle if they go first. So they might top, but it will probably require Dinos being hit on the next ban list.
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>>182619831
yes.
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>>182619831
OCG is currently in a power vacuum format with ABC and true draco WW being slightly dominant, I dont see why spyrals and magibullets cant take advantage of the lack of t1-0 decks and have their share
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>>182619928
>struggling battle
That card was a fucking MISTAKE, I'm telling you, that card is going to singlehandedly fuck the meta, maybe not as hard as Ash, but at least as hard as DBarrier.
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>>182619928
I'm just gonna remind you that Link actually have an omni-negator.
And Spyral coincidentally can fulfill its condition easily.

Firewall can also return a facedown monster if you're not aware.
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>>182619831
Forgot to ask for the reasonings as to how, sorry.

>>182619914
People who actually play this game.
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>>182620462
>People who actually play this game.
What, are you braindead metafag that can only play something that's guaranteed to be meta?
Just play what you want to play.
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>>182621050
No, just not a retard who wastes time on worthless garbage like your shitter ass.
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>>182621159
Then you should be able to judge by yourself whether they will be meta, don't you?
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Anybody else excited for link format?
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>>182621159
It's called playtesting you scrub.
And it's important to get an advantage against other player.
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>>182620186
isn't it only being sided in the ocg though?
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>>182621432
I've played irl using the new rules but im still waiting on percy to add links
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>>182621668
There have been Dino decks maining it that have topped.
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>>182621432
I don't have strong feelings one way or the other currently, but i'm very anxious for Percy to get Links already so I can mess with some decks.
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>>182621432
There are no interesting Links. Call me when they start interacting with the S/T Zones.
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>>182621432
Yeah man I can't wait to do this T1 at locals post-CIBR.
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>>182621432
You're literally a dumb cuckold if your are
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>>182611302
>>182611515
(This card is treated as a "U.A" card while its in the field or in the GY) If you Normal Summon this card, this card must be placed in the 1st Column to your left of your Main Monster Zone. During every Standby Phase, move this card to the the next Column on your right. If this card returns to your Hand while under the Extra Monster Zone, (Insert benefit here) then during the end phase, move to an adjacent Column OR send to the GY any monster that this card was previously on (If Any) and Special Summon this card to that same Column. While this card is on an (Even/Odd) numbered Column this card gains this effect (Insert effect here)
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>>182621432
Maybe if Master Peace didn't exist.
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>>182622457
i'm hoping the tcg is smart enough to ban master peace, putting him at 1 barely did anything
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>>182622714
>Banning good cards
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>>182622969
>unbanning half of the banlist

I hope they reprint it as common and then you get fucked
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>>182622969
that's how the banlist works, yes
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>>182621432
I'm so excited to give Konami more money by money gating the metagame. Thanks again, KoA!
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>>182623324
>money gating the metagame
What, you want years of stagnant meta or something?
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>>182623324
>money gating the meta game
The meta is always money gated. Links is nothing new. If your deck is hurt by links it was either not meta in the first place, or would've been torn up by the banlist regardless.
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>>182623625
You didn't necessarily HAVE to have most of the decent Xyz monsters before to play the game. Now you NEED Links if you do, though. Its more money gating than it was before, fucking only Konami could pull that off.
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>>182623835
>you NEED Links
have you actually looked at an ocg decklist
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>tfw you sack meta with a petdeck

Links are going to suck
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>>182625353
This is nice cube
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ded thred post cardfus
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fuck off
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>>182627360
>inb4 deleted
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>People coming up with all these effects for the F.A. monsters
>Will probably have something way tamer as their gimmick
Watch it be a slow control deck despite featuring fast racers in every card.
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>Double Helix SS Master Plan result in Sleeper+Last Resort+Resort
Let's see how you can summon Double Helix turn 1.
>Drone+Super Agent
>Set Rotation+Tough
>Drone+Dupe
Well, if you're okay with 3-card combo, there's shit like Foolish Burial an Assault, but that's actually harder than I thought.

I guess you can drop Quik-Fix if you just want to make Sleeper turbo, but a pair of Firewall in case they flip it down with Concealing/UCT/Eclipse is pretty good.
Access to Utility Wire is also a nice bonus since Double Helix counts as Super Agent.
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>>182627457
To be fair, the TCG archetypes do try to be pretty unique, BA or Spyral and I suppose
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So how have Magibullets been testing for you on Percy, /dng/?
I think the archtype is a contender for meta. If you open Brethren, you pretty much win off how much raw advantage you can generate, even on your opponent's turn.
Even Zamiel isn't hard to hardsummon at all. Your frontrow's borderline invincible.
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>>182627813
BA and Spyral were the most simple*
I need to go to bed
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>>182627813
The alternate win condition idea is too "Creative" even for TCG I think. Them getting effects dealing with columns wouldn't be too far fetched though.
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>his pet deck is ruined by Links
lmao desu senpai
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dont
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>>182628318
>Can only special summon one monster from the extra deck (not counting climbing)
>mfw that's all i need to OTK
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>>182628026
I haven't tried a Brethren build but this stun one is pretty solid. I underestimated Kid's effect and it's really powerful when paired with C/PoD.
Caspar is the lynchpin of the deck as expected.

Shame that the new spell is bugged.
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>>182628318
>petdeck is buffed by Links
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>>182629396
>I underestimated Kid's effect
I felt exactly the same way. It's a +1 every single turn. It's half the reason why Brethren's so good. You just get Kid and Caspar on the field for free - and it even triggers its target's effect.

I don't know how I feel about Demise with how full my hand constantly is, but Struggling and Frontline seem pretty interesting. How are they all working out for you?

I've also tried a meme build with Magical Something and Quick Booster and it wasn't the worst.
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>>182627475
I read a couple of combos on reddit that use Machine Dupe on Quick-Fix for a +8.
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>>182629949
>I don't know how I feel about Demise with how full my hand constantly is
I see where you're coming from. Demise is just more draw power for me and I tend to just search for Never-Endorphin or the contract trap to activate them during standby to fetch Death Perado without the worry of Denko.

Frontline is what it seems like, OoDS that doesn't clog the S/T zone.. Struggling is easier to resolve (Rapes their board if you're going 2nd) and once again, a strong card that isn't going to stick there.

I might give Zam another try since this deck feels like Majespecters with your searchable backrow and weak monsters.
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>>182631386
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>>182630886
>+8
So these? >>182619594
It's not even finished yet, since it can loop Fix, and Firewall already there.

Then again, you can't exactly count on drawing Dupe.
Life would be a LOT easier if Super Agent isn't the only Spyral that can SS itself from hand.
Then again, opening Drone and Super Agent isn't exactly hard.
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>>182631565
"Dupe Quik g2?" is gonna be my go to shitpost for spyrals. God I love these guys. Double Helix is the best fucking card only way to make it better is to SS ignoring the conditions for even easier sleeper abuse.
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>>182631715
Ogre the Fix or Blossom the Dupe g2?
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How do I abuse the lolis?
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>>182632229
Hotglue copies of their cards
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>>182632020
>Ogre the Fix
>Fix search Big Red then revive Fix
Good job.
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>>182632020
>Blossom the Dupe
>SS Super Agent, go into Double Helix, then into Sleeper equipped with Last Resort with Resort face-up
Good job.
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I predict SPYRAL Helix will become SPYRAL Spiral when KoA localizes it.
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>>182634998
As long as it's not a repeat of the fucking SPYGAL thing I wouldn't even mind too much.
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>>182635193
>SPYGAL
>better Drone to peek opponent's top deck t1
>decent disruption effect
>unsearchable because lel pun
>can't even go into Helix because lel pun
Fuck you too KoA.
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>>182619831
...maybe spyral dinos or true dracos spyral...
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>>182624019
I dont blame him for not playing true dracos or dinos.
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>>182629849
>buffed
>when the deck always rely on brillant fusion
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What version of YGOpro will let me play with the new subterror link
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>>182638045
Deck list? Mine feels too janky with pot of acquisitiveness and fusion gate.
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>>182638643
This is the best i've had the deck since i started playing them irl in like february
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>>182638639
2
maybe
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>people are mad the new links are shit
Lol
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>new magibullets in ygopro
>can't activate the spells from my hand during my opponent's turn even with a magibullet on my field
PERCYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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>Extra Pack 2017 is now 54 cards instead of the original 42
>12 new cards
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>>182639204
More like people hate links.
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>>182640289
SALES FAILURE
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>>182610180
>da why-fo becomes a dragon
I appreciate this Konami.
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>>182639252
The effect negation one also doesn't work.
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support when?
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>>182640879
>da slut becomes a why-fo
FTFY
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>>182641691
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so this is the deought period of 2 months with no news right? The next main OCG set comes out in October and CODU/CIBR/DP18/ have all been shit and the Samurai and Extra Packs look like hot garbage. Are we just not making the general until we are back?
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>>182641898
any cards that turn ones opponents monsters to fire type? : - )
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>>182641980
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>>182641904
Woah, that reminds me of the last time /dng/ consistently calling something shit.
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>>182642330
It was only one retard in the discord (JoeyStorm) who thought zoo was shit.
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>>182622136
spherecucked ;)
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>synchros will never be good again

I want to go back to 5D's dimension.
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>>182642891
There were a lot of people that said they were shit or petdeck tier in the beginning.
Even after they started topping it took people here a while to realize Rat and Drident weren't the only good ones.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5EFocEkFBg
>when the author removes a video in the middle of you watching it
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post sleeves
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>>182644039
what was it?
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>>182644976
cropped down a bit of course
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>>182645047
A magibullet video from that shark guy.
I don't really care that much, but it was fun to see it get deleted in the middle of me viewing it.

I guess he was ashamed of the decklist or something. He uploaded a new magibullet video with a different list.
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>>182644976
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maxx C or upstart goblin?
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>>182647294
jar of greed
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>>182647294
Both you utter fool
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If Chaos End Ruler does get printed in this format, what deck would it make rise to the top?
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>>182649526
The answer is always burning abyss
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>>182649526
Due to its stupid summoning condition, I'd say BA but

>playing Burning Abyss in Link format

It'll most likely stay dead with BLS and CED until Chaos gets actual good support within the next decade or so.
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>>182622714
Just wait till you see the Sept list
and no Draco cards are touched cause they haven't been reprinted yet
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>>182649526
>inb4 they make him a ritual with a nerfed effect.
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>>182649726
>>182649738
Damn, I was hoping there would be more besides Burning Abyss. But i guess their arent a lot of decks with light warrios and dark fiends

I did find this video on it though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guLzyoyrvw8

>>182649946
Fucking god please no
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>>182650021
I can see it happen if they fear this card might spark some bs.
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>>182650089
>Inb4 the ritual requires you to use BLS and CED
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>>182649946
At least they can't make the ritual spell generic and make it incompatible with Pre-Prep.

We already have a generic Chaos ritual spell despite nobody asking for it.
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>>182643903
I was one of those who said zoos seem weebtrash, regardless they was going to be good or bad.
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>>182650021
>light warrios and dark fiends
Where have I heard that combination before?
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>>182650304
Dont fucking remind me. I wish the dude was a fusion but fuck me
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>>182645943
How has the game been treating you, fellow Bujinfag?
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>>182645943
Hot damn I remember when everyone hated Bujins
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If I use VFDs effect and then my opponent summons a monster after, is its atribute changed or would it have had to already been on the field?
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>>182627813
>Noble Knights have a fun Equip reusing mechanic
>Burning Abyss floats for days and is obsessed with the number 3
>U.A. have the tag in and out mechanic
>Kozmo pilots summon ships and then ships float back into pilots
>Kaiju tribute the opponent's things for GIANT MONSTER BATTLES
>SPYRAL look at the enemy's topdeck and get their plays off from that

Yeah. Most of the TCG stuff IS pretty unique, so I hope F.A. follow suit.
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Hey mates, Just got my Link format mat for next week. Im designing another once since thats just what a like to do, and I would like to put a subtle reference to you guys. What should I do? Put a clover inside the field spell zone? have a plain white /dng/ on the bottom corner? any other suggestions? We dont really have a monster mascot that we dont wanna fuck. [/spoiler

Also, I really like these card zones, but I was thinking of simple silver or white rectangles (with no fill) next time, what do you guys think? any suggestions would be welcomed.
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>>182650947
shit, i broke the spoiler bracket. Now I just look like a fuck.
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>>182650947
>>182651036
Nice one you fuck!
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>>182650947
Remove sand which and I'll buy that Mat. I actually like it.
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>>182650735
Unique, yeah. Let's go with that.
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>>182651194
Thanks(?)
I will practice more

>>182651202
Thanks mate. Without it, it really felt like it needed something, and sandwich is stealth one of my favorite monsters.

What in particular do you like about the design for me to carry over to the next one?
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>>182644976
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>Special Crawler Dendrite face-down
>Normal pic related
>Foolish Level Eater/Dandylion/Glow-up
>Can also rip it from the deck with Burrito

KaraCrawler meta when?!
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>>182651443
I like the colors of the card placement zones and I like the minimal background Most people try to shove so much shit onto a mat it looks displeasing.

The only other mats I like is the upper Guard Galaxy one and pic related.
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>>182651624
I love this picture. Do you have the bigger version?
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>>182652838
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>>182652901
Thank you friend.
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>Card Kingdom using BriFu engine in their Doriado deck
Immediately closed the video, fuck Series 9 cards, literally the cancer in this game. I hate the kind of engine introduced during Series 9, they're semi-generic so a lot of decks can use them, but for maximum effect you need to mix them with other semi-generic engines which take up some considerable amount of deck space which kinda limits deck options. And it's always the same engines used, just some slight differences which makes it tiring to see.
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i'm thinking of inserting link zones in my playmat, but i dont know if i should do something special for them, like a different color or whatever. Any suggestions?
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>>182653028
>actually forgot the main reason why I hate the Series 9 engines
It's because I find that they are mostly used as crutch, they don't actually have much relation to a deck's main playstyle, and are usually just to get the cards out.
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I don't follow the game super closely, but I saw Future Fusion was unbanned. That's nice, that means I can start running Worms again despite them being outclassed by everything in the meta.
Worm support that helps with fusion and graveyard manipulation when?
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why the f*ck did they give blue cards to another card type?
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>>182653028
>>182653416
>I hate good cards and I'm a scrub
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>>182650714
Seems like such a long time ago. Wasn't it fairly short-lived too?
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>>182654107
Honestly, yes. I want more shit cards if it means not having cancerous shit like the Series 9 cards, and I'm happy that Series 10 is going in the direction it has currently.
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>>182654702
Fuck off shitter, you're the cancer killing the game
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>>182647294
>mfw somebody has saved the image I found of Relinquished
Kay
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>>182653597
Should have been red, since we don't have red yet.
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>>182654702
Fortunately for the rest of us, it seems that you'll start having your hopes and dreams crushed relatively soon.
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>>182654395
Yeah Bujins got power creeped real fucking fast
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>>182654761
>slowing down the game is killing it
Okay Mr. "I want every card to +20 and win me the match instantly"
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>>182650304
>Kaijew'd
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>>182653597
They're cyber/electronic based, so they want to invoke memories of Tron?
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>>182655065
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>>182655065
It sounds like you dont like yugioh. Perhaps you should either play a different format, or maybe even try another game, because cards generating advantage is a huge part of this game nowa days.
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xyz was the final straw

pendulums killed yugioh. who the fuck still plays this shit, they will obviously ban every tier 1 deck only to release an even better tier 1 archetype, 3 + times a goddamn year as long as there is a single cuck still throwing money at them.
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>>182655062
Bujins were never as bad as people made them out to be. They just didn't want to side what they needed to get rid of them.
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>>182655465
>pendulum killed Yugioh
>a summoning type that was constantly cucked by every other summoning type during it's era

lel try again
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>>182655604
what is pepe for 500, Alex!
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>>182655656
PePe/Dracopals was the deck's one moment of glory. For the rest of the Arc-V period, every other summoning type was better and stronger.
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>>182655656
A deck that got cucked by an emergency banlist and then some more by monarchs.
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>>182655773
But who didnt get cucked my monarchs?
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>>182655386
Not the guy you were replying to, but I don't like how a good majority of cards in Series 9 can come back for free (Pends), or has Graveyard effects (even fucking Spell cards). I feel that it undermines card management, which is like the only real resource management in ygo. Konami did try to counter that, but they did it in a inelegant way of just making it so that the other person can't play, which led to even more rising powerlevels.
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>>182655731
They shouldn't have stopped there they should have given a way to make extra deck pendulums easier to pendulum summon.
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>>182655851
Arc-V era gave decks dragon ruler style resource management through floating. It no longer sufficed to trade cards, you really needed to outplay your opponent.

I actually felt that this encouraged proper card management. Now lets take a look at a deck that doesnt do pends at all and technically doesnt have many floaters - Zoodiac.

Do you honestly believe the deck encourages card management?
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Is metalfoes a good investment? If yes what to mix them with? I like their artwork.
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>>182656039
>outplay your opponent.
>implying you didn't have to before.
>Do you honestly believe the deck encourages card management?
Yes. Because the amount of recursion is not as ridiculous the real threat is the combination of stun and control the deck can be splashed with.
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>>182655851
The game got a bit more complex but at the same time less fun; anyway set 5 pass was boring...
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>>182656265
Well yes exactly the deck doesnt rely on card management at all and also not on having floating because its literally a deck full of 1 card plays, allowing you to have everything else be stun shit.
THIS is an example of something that discourages resource management and instead just putting your combos on the board.
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>>182656240
Mix them with F.A. >>182611302
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>>182611302
if these arent compatable with u.a the archtype is dead.
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Dumping shitty meme decks
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>>182656458
>Mix them with cards whose effects we don't know about
ok
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>>182656692
It's a catch 22. If F.A. is treated as U.A., then the cards will probably be bad to make up for the fact that the archetype will end up having 29 cards between U.A. and F.A. If they're not treated as U.A., then the F.A. cards will be a lot better, but still probably not as good as BA or Kozmo, and of course U.A. will still be left in its corner ranting about how they never got another level 4 monster and how they're powercrept anyways aside from janky Powered Jersey OTKs.
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>>182655062
Suppose it's to be expected when you weren't that great in the first place.

>>182656240
They're generic poppers, so anything that can benefit from that mixes well.
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SO im guessing since UA stood for Ultra Athletes then FA probably stands for Fast Automobiles or Future Accelerators or some shit

>>182657147
Alot of decks when you look back on them arent that powerful
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>>182656432
Mother fucker pepe had the same but in the extradeck.
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>>182657261
Fucking Asshats
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should i try to fit in maxx C for the link format?
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>>182650947
Shapesnatch
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>>182657261
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>>182650947
I knew that background looked familiar
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>>182657725
exactly right. I wouldnt have hid it either, thats one of my favorite wallpapers.

>>182657578
Isnt that more of rata's thing?
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>>182657725
Same, have another one of my favorites.

By Mifu on pivix
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>>182656894
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Is this a good field /dng/?

the face down is starlight road btw
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Can I get some feedback on this deck?
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>>182657261
Future Athletes
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>>182653028
that Chimera deck that was in the previous video was pretty spicy though. Damn japs and their meme decks.
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>>182658871
>No one for one
>No United
Drop a terraforming for a smoke signal, add a third Kizan, Drop Spirit to 1, Drop 1 Donglong if not both, add one of the banish-2-to-special one, one maindeck shi-en, add Soul Charge.
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>>182658871
>No Enishi
What's the point of abusing Fuhma if you can't even summon the best Six Samurai with him?
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>>182655656
PePe was just a R4nk Deck with CyDra Infinity..
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>>182660583
>>182661549
Is this better?
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why doesnt YGOpro have links yet? what the FUCK did they mean by this?
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>>182663435
you know i had to flip it on em
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So Extra Pack 2017 was increased from 42 to 54 which is 12 in total. We know 2 of them are SPYRAL/Subterror and if we assume that 3 are the new Dark Magician/Cyber Dragon fusion and Odd-eyes that would be 5 meaning there are still 7 other cards. What could the 7 other cards be?
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>>182663167
They apparently have to rework the AI too. Why they don't just temporarily disable the AI and have the rest up and functional while those are being reworked, no one knows.
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why are people so asshurt over pendulums despite them only being meta relevant for 2 weeks out of the game's entire history? even metalfoes were just an engine and not an actual pure deck
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>>182663869
More support for spyrals/subterrors
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>>182658739
If they don't have Titty Twister in hand that must be a chore to play around. Not bad anon
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>>182662986
...that specifically abused Pendulums to spam said Rank 4s and Cyber Dragon Infinities
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>>182664430
Thanks anon. Even if they did have TT i had starlight road face down so they'd just end up losing 2 cards
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>>182663869
Enough to give red-eyes a new retarded mechanic.
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post musics that reminds u of yuor deck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5Vjaktu5NE
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>>182664135
That wouldn't make sense because it's already confirmed that Subterrors occupy slots 001-017 and SPYRAL starts at 018. They don't usually put archetypal support at random spots in sets like this, it's all in the same place.
>>
Seven days
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>>182658739
>activate dark hole/raigeki/slumber/other removal
>you chain starlight road
>chain cosmic cyclone/twin twisters/mst/etc.
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>>182664843
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTPZvAwwCho

I miss double Downerd in BAs
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>>182665418
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>>182611515
>Can negate effects that would target or destroy them by changing columns.
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>>182665580
top tier cardfu, good choice
>by slackermagician
heh
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>>182663167
>>182663872
They don't have Links yet because they're in the process of adding all four Master Rules to the simulator. When you host/join a game, you'll be able to choose between Master Rules 1, 2, 3, and 4.

This means that they have to basically re-program every card four times, so it's taking them a while to do things.

Source: The Percy discord.
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>>182663983
Because people are stupid.

There's still people in THIS VERY THREAD that think Xyz were a mistake, and if you search around, you'll probably find people that hate Synchro, too.
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>>182665771
>Unaffected by card effects, except the effects of cards in the same column as this card.
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>>182665771
>Just my prediction
F.A. Overtake
Quickplay Spell
Target 1 "F.A." monster you control; move it 2 adjacent columns to the left or right, and if you do, it becomes unaffected by your opponent's card effects, also its ATK becomes double its original ATK. These changes last until the end of the turn.
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>>182666260
>catering to shitters this hard
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>>182666424
Buff Reji is best
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>>182664843
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q16yI2d9sNE
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>>182666260
>things you can already do in chinkpro
It just seems like a lot of excuses to delay the update as long as possible because people are upset about the new rules. Not to mention how relatively minor the changes to the program would be, considering the major differences between Master Rules 1-3 are all encompassed by the "use obsolete rulings" button and would just amount to the different options using or not using different aspects of said button
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>>182666491
Not liking a bad rule makes you a shitter?
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>>182667152
>tfw never got Morphtronic Quasar together to take to Locals before Links
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>>182668027
it caters to NO PEND/XYZ/SYNCHRO shitters which is stupid
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>>182664589
Oh yeah I forgot. Well a lot of people are actually choosing to play Cosmic Cyclone over TT because of muh True Dracos, so just watch out for that.
Although desu almost every board is breakable. Pic related would probably the closest to an unbreakable board that's theoretically possible.
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>>182668474
It's not possible.

You can't set, you can't summon, and you can't activate spells and traps.

There's no way around it, is there?
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>>182666260
Great, great.
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>>182668263
Fair enough, though I do consider it rather different compared to the MR4 thing.
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>>182669545
I forget, can you not Kaiju Last Warrior?
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>>182670037
you cant summon anything
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>>182670037
>kaiju the ophion
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>>182670037
You can't. That's a Special Summon and Last Warrior stops it from happening.
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>>182669545
You can have a previously Set Marshmallon and win from deckout. That's about it.
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>>182669545
Technically it's impossible to have an unbreakable board, since there isn't a single card that stops Exodia.
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>>182668474
Previously-Banished Omega?
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>>182671409
If you Omega away a piece while doing your combo then you're fine.
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Someone has to have thought of making Brilliant fusion Magibullets right?
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>>182672213
It works rather well in theory.

>Normal Summon Calamity
>Activate Brilliant Fusion behind her
>dump a Gem-Knight and Zamiel for Seraphinite
>Calamity activates and revives Zamiel
>you still have another Normal Summon
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>>182672510
Right? It feels like such a natural idea. The problem is that they don't have a good way to revive seraphinite when she inevitably dies
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>>182671605
You can't Omega in response to Exodia winning the game. Actually, even if you used Omega, he can just declare victory by Exodia, since it's not an effect that needs to be activated or anything.
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>>182673037
Oh you meant him just opening Exodia. Well no shit sherlock.
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Why is there never paper card threads on /tg/
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>>182673321
/tg/ hates everything that isn't MtG or Netrunner.
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>>182673621
>/tg/ hates everything
Fixed that for ya
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>>182675319
I honestly haven't been on /tg/ since the /qst/ thing. Still a shitshow repeating the same threads over and over, endlessly?
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>>182675736
Yes
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>>182611463
>>182611302
>>182611579

I WANT /o/ TO LEAVE
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>>182676896
Your oscillations appear to be above the optimal temperature my friend
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>>182676896
NO
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>>182668474
Yeah, though idk what i could use in order to stop cosmic cyclone

Speaking of Unbreakable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpOF2I67z6U
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>>182679825
Dang, the thumbnail didn't show the Coral Dragon. Without that you could have set Noble Knight brothers to wall them (2400 DEF), then next turn tribute set Arcana Force XIV Temperance to continue to wall them until they attack it, then change it to ATK position and get rid of Last Warrior since it's 2400/2400

>Laval Arborfield
what did CAPTCHA mean by this?
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>>182679825
>Unbreakable board™
>One cherry picked replay probably against his friend
What the fuck was the point of uploading this?
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>>182650725
the former
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>>182680710
I wonder if theirs anything you could replace coral dragon with to make it better

>>182680873
Just to show off an unbreakable board. I think everyone knows that pulling that shit off doesnt happen often enough to warrant playing it.
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>>182680873
>show obvious meme
>wtf it's a meme
no shit its cherrypicked
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>If this card leaves the field: destroy all monsters you control
How do dark magicians even consider Eternal Soul a good card
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>>182683125
I wonder what was the maker of that card thinking when making such a backfire effect.
It would have maked sense maybe, if there was no "Once per turn" restrictin.
But still, this was completely unnecesary.
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Hosting
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>>182683125
I still get a good laugh reading this shit card. DMfags actually paid money to raigeki themselves.
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Does anyone have a guide for D/D?
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>>182684468
old but gold, thanks to links you have to go through extra steps with the executives

http://roadoftheking.com/dd-basic-combo
http://roadoftheking.com/dd-advance-combo
http://roadoftheking.com/dd-beatrice-combo
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>>182684468
Also here's Rank 10 D/D/D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDmY_KHquwc&t=470s
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>>182684692
>>182685007
much appreciated
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DEVOLVED OVELOT YOU PIECE OF SHIT I'M GOING TO PAY YOU AND YOUR FUCKING NOBLE KNIGHTS OF ALL THINGS BACK FOR TURNING MY RAIDRAPTORS INTO TERIYAKI.
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>>182685149
>>182684468
D/D/D link combos from the OCG overlords. I think he could make stronger board desu.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfLeutRsQNg
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>Butterfly Loop to make Lunalight Wolf become 6000 ATK
God damn that was a good match, its been a while since i got stuck in a long duel. Magibullets reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally need a way to handle untargettable stuff.
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>>182687360
>Can't get over sphere
literally broken

GG, My only out to Sphere were Torrential and Dark holes (which I didn't draw). Paleo engine with the Triple D's worked swimmingly, especially with Doctor.
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>get zooshitted on
>use handtrap
>he still have 5 hand
>60 cards deck
>set 4
link when, this meme cant go on
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>>182687708
>which i didn't draw
More like you banished. God damn the second desires looked painful
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11 True Draco:
7 Invoked Spellbook True Draco
4 Demise True Draco
8 Dinosaur:
6 True King Yang Zing Dinosaur
1 True King Dinosaur
1 Mono Dinosaur
6 ABC:
5 Mono ABC
1 Invoked ABC
5 Dinosaur Yang Zing
3 Invoked:
1 Artifact Kaiju Invoked
1 Kaiju Invoked
1 Kaiju Trickstar Invoked
2 Infernoid:
1 Greener Infernoid
1 Greener Invoked Infernoid
1 D/D
1 Ritual Beast
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>>182688337
>1 Ritual Beast
MUST BE NICE to have 3 cannahawk
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>>182688197
Yeah.Thankfully with Links I can use the Paleos and Magibullets to make Ningirsu as an ED out to stuff
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>>182688337
>Yang Zing
>Chiwen is $10 these days
>I got 2 playsets for $20 a few months ago
Feels good.
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>>182687360
>>182687708
Care for a decklist? Please?
>>182687743
>filename
The fact that Ixtab is the Goddess of Suicide makes me chuckle and wonder what could happen if she hangs like that
>in b4 literally appears in DarkLord fag room and sex him in the hopes of the child being a better support for the archetype
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Say.
How would you make a "core" for Link summon, using the cards from the Starter Deck?
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>>182689407
Here you go. The deck is 40+ due to 3 Desires and Kid's deck thinning. It's pretty much PaleoFrogs but with a better monster engine. Might run Zam as a 1-of but he's bugged atm.
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>>182689407
>>182689407
silly anon stop saying nonsense, as if darklords will ever get archetype support ever again.. Northwemkun literally have better chances than me
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>>182691058
I was out when MagiBullet started to get relevance. How do they play?
>>182691129
Wait... Me?
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>>182687360
Magibullets aren't done yet. We're still getting one more Trap card, and probably one more monster to represent the Prince in the play.
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>>182691351
i told you last thread that you had more chances to get a ritual archetype able to use Northwemko than me getting more darklord cards, last time we had to wait like 6 years and they probably wont be a second time.
we are both at the bottom of the barrel alongside lovecraftfags and other non-anime related petdecks tbhq
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>>182691351
>I was out when MagiBullet started to get relevance. How do they play?
You mean one day ago?
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>>182691931
>spoiler
Yeah you may be right.
But still, this is me trying to remember when was the last time a single card got into an archetype besides Metaphys (who are retrains of Dark Armed Dragons and other GX cards).
Maybe I have little hopes but I try to stay positive like you say and believe. Thanks.
>>182692345
Yes
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>>182691931
>Lovecraft references as Darklords never
>Darklord Iranon never
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>>182683125
Somehow people consider Sleeper a good card, and that destroys everything you have.
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>>182692554
Well, Sleeper doesn't sleep.
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>>182692553
I'm still mad they never gave fleshed out play styles to each lovecraft set.
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>>182692521
>trying to remember when was the last time a single card got into an archetype besides Metaphys
Blue-Eyes, Dark Magician, fucking Dark Magician Girl, and let's not forget Exodia and Red-Eyes, that also got a Structure Deck. I can see Konami making a Structure Deck of your girl, and I can see you buying three copies of that, day one too.
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Its always weird seeing decks with like 10 monster 15 spells and like 15 traps. I guess monsters themselves arent as popular as they used to be
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>Qliphorts have arguably one of the best, if not THE best lore and card design of the game
>it's boring and cancerous to play under every format

why is this allowed
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>>182694127
Decks like that have been fairly common for a long time now
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>>182694119
Don't forget Geargiano was generic machine support, and Spellbook Organization and Hidden Spellbook are cards that exist
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>>182694119
As i said, non-anime decks are excluded from these kinds of miracles. And you just proved my point
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>>182689407
Here's my lunalight decklist since you quoted me.
>inb4 complaints about using solemn scoldingI I don't even have a backrow full of set cards unless im bluffing, and this thing negates spells and traps so i can save my ass from Struggling battle.
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>>182694335

>The name “Qliphort” is likely a combination of the words “Qliphoth,” and either “fort” or “fortran,” a high-level computer programming language for scientific computing. The Qliphort monsters' purposes and forms are closely linked to the Qliphoth.

>The word Qliphoth translates from Hebrew to mean “hull” or “casing,” and they're perceived as hindering; evil residual energy acting as shells concealing holy aspects. The Qliphoth are the evil forces that exist within creation, representing impurity and evil spiritual forces in Jewish mysticism (Kabbalah). They're the chaos in the world that brings division amongst humanity, creation, and act as the bringers of destruction.

>The Qliphoth come together to form the spheres on the Tree of Death. The Tree of Death is the antithesis to the Tree of Life, the divine aspects in Judaic mysticism. As these negative spheres, the Qliphoth encapsulate and hide the good intentions of the Tree of Life's spheres within their evil, as shells wrapping a fruit.
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>>182692554
Sleeper has ways to mitigate the self-destruct effect, Eternal Soul literally makes MST become a Raigeki and there isn't an in-archetype protection for Eternal Soul outside of running the field spell that locks spells
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>>182687196
I'm on the 4th combo so far, when he SS Lamia from grave, couldn't he SS a lv4 or lower DD with Flame Ghengis? Like Kepler again.

They look really fun.
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>>182695187
Well, i just broke the damn greentext somehow. I want to die now.
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>>182695324
The same can be said for Fire King Island yet that was a popular tech in Kozmo.
And while it's ass, not only does it rely on your opponent having an out, but losing your frontrow isn't a wincon in most relevant decks. There's a reason we barely see Raigeki.
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Haru Urara
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>>182695234
Qlips aren't even evil though, they're just the planet's defense mechanism.
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>>182695495
In kozmo, getting your own shit destroyed just makes shit worse for the opponent, that's why FKI is a good tech card for Kozmos (and it will be once diagram gets banned) and SPYRAL Sleeper as i said, has ways to mitigate his self destruct effect but Dark Magician decks don't have shit that floats or ways to make the dark magician not die by eternal soul and that's why i mock Eternal Soul.
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>>182694119
You are pretty much right on that last part, if that ever happens.
>>182694364
>>182694602
Those are interesting points. Most of them are support for anime cards, but then I see even Spellbook as a single card and I got surprised right there.
>>182695187
>scolding
Well, you don't need a lot of backrow since LunaLights are most of the time, OTKing the opponent.
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>blocks your path

what you do, /dng/?
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>>182695234

>According to Israel Regardie, the "qlipothic tree" consists of 10 spheres in opposition to the sephirot on the Tree of Life. These are also referred to as the “evil twins”. They are also the “Evil Demons of Matter and the Shells of the Dead”.[11]
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>>182696107
you are already in ya dip
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https://ygorganization.com/ocg-upcoming-saikyo-jump-promo/
>Linkuriboh
INHALE
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>>182696670
He will be the best Link 1 monster for a while, screencap this.

Summoned Skull Link and Dark Magician Girl Link are the next memes.
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>>182696818
>DMG Link
YAMEROOOOOOO
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>>182696818
It would make sense for nostalgiacuck appeal
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>>182695731
tl:dr they are chaotic neutral though, analog to a natural disaster. It is reminiscent of the apocalypse, the coming of the false prophet (false god here) n all that

>Japanese flavor text of Monolith:
「見よ人は我々の一人のようになり善悪を知るものとなった彼は手を伸べ命の木からも取って食べ永久に生きるかもしれない」 ("Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:")

>Spanish flavor text, deciphered:
Cipher: Hv kilsryv vo xlmgzxgl xlm vo Ziylo Hztizwl. Vo Uoztvol sz hrwl oryvizwl.
Spanish: Se prohibe el contacto con el Arbol Sagrado. el Flagelo ha sido liberado.
English: Contact with the Sacred Tree is forbidden. The Scourge has been unleashed.

>start of tcg flavor text deciphered: Unhandled exception at 0x1i-666 in qliphort.exe: Access violation writing location 0x00-000
Ignore the error and continue? <Y/N>
>666
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>>182696818
>implying it'll even be a Link monster
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>>182697091
How the fuck this anon makes this meme comic
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I am suddenly reminded of why I bothered with B.E.S.
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>>182697091
The activated “Qliphort” did not even spare a passing glance at the lives on the surface, but rather tenaciously went after the “Shaddoll” to eliminate or restrain them. The “Qliphort” were originally entities that maintained the balance of the “Sacred Tree’s” “qliphoth” life system, and to them, the “Shaddoll”, which were born from the “sefiroth” system, but who now has their souls in the “qliphoth” system, while still maintaining their bodies from the “sefiroth” system to move about, are nothing but alien elements that must be eliminated, as they are life that should not be and an existence that cannot be tolerated. Although the “Qliphort” are powerful, the power of “El Shaddoll Construct” was still too great, and so they combined effort with the surface lifeforms. “Evilswarm Kerykeion” fought to suppress the “Shaddoll” from within, while “Delteros” gathered the staff and power it obtained from “Kerykeion” at “Apoqliphort Towers”, and with the double suppression from inside and outside, “Construct” was finally stopped. However, the threat was still far from over, and fearing the restraints breaking, the allied forces, with advice from “Kerykeion”, urged “Shurit, Strategist of Nekroz” to use the spiritual power of the 3 “Ice Barrier” dragons within himself to create a seal, freezing “El Shaddoll Shekhinaga” in place and completely incapacitating it.

Evilswarm Kerykeion gathered energy together with Stellarknight Delteros at Apoqliphort Towers, restraining El Shaddoll Construct, turning into El Shaddoll Shekhinaga, which was in turn frozen by the power of the three dragons

Qliphorts literally fought together with the good guys. They just went ballistic after capturing El Shaddoll Winda and recognizing her as a fatal error in the Sacred Tree's system.
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>>182692554
sleeper can pop 2 for free when equipped with last resort and has a huge body. plus, getting rid of spell/traps is a ton more easier to do than getting rid of monsters

>>182697581
>someone else plays bes
no way
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>>182696670
One step closer to making a Kuriboh meme deck.
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>>182697791
Can you post your deck? I'm using a build from [/spoiler]reddit and right now it's brick city, because I either end up with a hand of ships that I can't summon or a bunch of Zelos, Boss Rushes, etc. and no monsters.
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>>182694335
>Qliphorts have arguably one of the best, if not THE best lore and card design of the game
funny
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>>182697634
Local cardfu ruins everything. But the flavor texts are too edgy to make me believe that, moreover their function being containing the Infernoids, and considering their evil origins, i don't believe they were fully the good guys, seems more like a 3 sided war where Shaddolls was mainly focused.Considering the fact that the strings fixing Construct to Towers are her own wings, it seems like Construct actually attacked Towers. And may i remind you that the shaddolls are basically corrupted gem knights, and the gems of the gem knights contained in corrupted Diamond are the ones that awoke the Qlis, it is highly probable that shaddolls wanted to open the Qlis via the gems spheres, thus releasing the Infernoids. What confuses me is the relation between Infernoids and Qlis, and why did they resisted being "completed" into cyber god. Probably because the goals of Infernoids / Tierra and theirs differs, assuming Infernoids are at the service of Tierra, which they probably are since they are literally parts of her. Thus it led me to research the goal of Tierra, but we lack card lore on her, we only saw her get very big by fusing with towers basically. But there is a program called Tierra that fits with the artchetype's naming policies and may gives us the answer:
>Tierra is a computer simulation developed by ecologist Thomas S. Ray in the early 1990s in which computer programs compete for time (central processing unit (CPU) time) and space (access to main memory). In this context, the computer programs in Tierra are considered to be evolvable and can mutate, self-replicate and recombine.
cont.
Sorry for bad english, i'm typing fast and i'm tired
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>>182699257
The basic Tierra model has been used to experimentally explore in silico the basic processes of evolutionary and ecological dynamics. Processes such as the dynamics of punctuated equilibrium, host-parasite co-evolution and density-dependent natural selection are amenable to investigation within the Tierra framework. A notable difference between Tierra and more conventional models of evolutionary computation, such as genetic algorithms, is that there is no explicit, or exogenous fitness function built into the model. Often in such models there is the notion of a function being "optimized"; in the case of Tierra, the fitness function is endogenous: there is simply survival and death.

It reminds us strongly of Luciferianism
>Luciferianism is a belief system that venerates the essential characteristics that are affixed to Lucifer. The tradition, influenced by Gnosticism, usually reveres Lucifer not as the devil, but as a liberator, a guardian or guiding spirit[1] or even the true god as opposed to Jehovah.
>They support the protection of the natural world. Both the arts and sciences are crucial to human development, and thus both are cherished. Luciferians think that humans should be focused on this life and how to make the most of it every single day. The ability to recognize both good and evil, to accept that all actions have consequences, both positive and negative, and to actively influence one's environment, is a key factor.
For Luciferians, enlightenment is the ultimate goal. The basic Luciferian principles highlight truth and freedom of will, worshipping the inner self and one's ultimate potential. Traditional dogma is shunned as a basis for morality on the grounds that humans should not need deities or fear of eternal punishment to distinguish right from wrong and to do good. All ideas should be tested before being accepted, and even then one should remain skeptical because knowledge and understanding are fluid.
cont.
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>Regardless of whether Lucifer is conceived of as a deity or as a mere archetype, he is a representation of ultimate knowledge and exploration: humanity's savior and a champion for continuing personal growth.

I conclude from all of this that Tierra is meant to be some form of Lucifer (back at it again), and her goal is to become the perfect being. That's all lads
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>>182698031
haven't updated this in a little bit, but here's my build. you could probably cut the windwitches for handtraps but crystal wing has saved my ass a couple times
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pure, unaltered autism
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>>182699803
This archetype makes me feel like Fate with their thing like Frankeinstein being a cute girl.
Confused.
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Does anyone have a Qliphort decklist they are willing to share? All this dng Qli circlejerk is making me want to play them badly.
I was thinking of throwing some god cards in there too i heard that can be half decent
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>>182699969
Thanks. Doesn't Pathfinder interfere with Boss Rush? I've been running Set Rotation instead. Also, what's the first Spell, before Terraforming?
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>>182700026
Weird
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>>182700026
But Lucifer is canonically beautiful, and the rest of the archetype is relatively accurate to their original lores. I would have preferred it if Ixtab was wearing a noose or Tesca was a deformed fuck, but i guess that would be too edgy
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>>182700208
set rotation is probably more efficient, but it's bricked me so many times that i got rid of it. plus your opponent could simply just not flip the field you gave them and lock you out of further zelos plays. spell is pic related
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All this qli talk reminds me that the maker of QLINGY had wet dreams with the qlis
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>>182700584
Thanks again. Also, I'd recommend adding in Limiter Removal, so far it's helped me end games and it triggers Boss Rush.
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>>182610180
Give me a deck to counter everything in the Dynosmasher structure deck x 3.
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>>182701637
Floodgates.dek
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>>182701637
Not being a shitter
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>>182701723
I'm new to the game, hence why I'm asking how to counter the structure deck, what are floodgates?
>>182701762
Original and funny, end your life.
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>>182701867
>shitter knowing what's original or telling anyone what to do
good one
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>>182701867
Cloudians
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>>182696023
>not going full autism and start making CaC
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>>182701637
>>182701867
Nurse burn, ignore the other to f/a/ggots.
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>>182702372
>nurse burn
>countering anything except shitters
nice try, f/a/ggot
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>>182702262
I mean, I could, but, it would be a big waste, knowing that it may never become true, and finding a way to make a lot of cards work it's kind of difficult.
Just gonna say that I rather Northwemko get either retrains into other Summon Type, or supports in the form of Searchables Spells that plays with her deffensive effect.
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what's the reasoning for them picking a color as similar as rituals, i fucking hate konami.
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>>182703390
why tf didnt they use a bright red?
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>>182703390
rituals are so irrelevant and links have such a unique design that it doesn't really matter that they're both blue
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>>182703706
>links have such a unique design
nice joke
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>>182703390
>>182703514
everytime
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>>182703390
Speaking of rituals, TCG exclusive ritual news when?
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>>182703889
stop posting this retarded nonsense you basement dwelling neckbeard, red was a much better choice than another shade of blue that's so similar to the one used by rituals and you know it
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>>182703856
Arrows on the side of the art's box is pretty unique.
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>>182702817
Ok fuck it. I'm gonna try something.
>>182703390
Apparently, Konami think blue can be recycled.
>>182703914
That's what I want to know.
I'm pretty sure we are getting that dog first.
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>>182703889
>there is no shade of red in the entire electromagnetic spectrum other than the one used on slifers artwork :)
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>>182704006
>>182704141
why are you so insistent on red every fucking time
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>>182699969
Funny how just 1 card can make a deck go from completely unplayable to somewhat coherent.
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>>182703889
>>182704006
>>182704141
Guys, this problem is easy to solve, just make Links pink.
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>>182704243
what should they have used? red is really far detached from any other card type that sees use

>>182704290
this isn't a bad idea either
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>>182691058
>straight up banishing everything if you have less cards
>if you control no cards you can activate this card from your hand

so this is what traps have come to huh..
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>>182703914
It wont be an archetype.
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>>182704026
Not in the slightest
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>>182704038
dog has no relation, just the peek
>>182704451
exactly
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>>182704451
Thanks for your input, good thing I didn't say it was one in that post.
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Will the next new ED monster type be a whole new shade of blue?
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So I tried to get chink pro running. But the new version just runs with no text and then crashes if I try to enter the deck edit menu or anything.
Does this sound familiar to anyone?
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>>182704776
it'll be dark synchro colored
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>>182704776
baby blue.
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>>182704564
>>182704581
You wanted news and nobody has said that. There you go.
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>>182704451
Going by the blurry checklist, the Ritual monster, as well as the 3 cards after it all seem to start with the same word. And the 4 cards after that are F.A. it's very likely that the Ritual monster is part of a new TCG exclusive archetype.
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>>182658059
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>>182705240
keep dreaming
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>>182704776
>next new ED monster
We already have enough.
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>>182705463
>implying that means anything
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>>182705532
mr5 we remove 4's limits and go back to 3
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>>182705426
>I don't understand how anything works so I'm just gonna shitpost
Everything is bait now days
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what will the other elemental link monsters look like, /dng/?
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>>182705903
They'll look all fancy and high class
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>>182705903
>Blade Fly -> Jade Fly
Has gem-encrusted sword
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>>182705463
need a new main deck monster or some new way of interaction with main deck cards. maybe split cards or a new card type.
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>>182706568
A new main deck card type would be an even bigger headache than Links
>When your opponent activates a Spell, Trap, or Monster card effect
>Oh, well good thing this isn't a Spell, Trap, or Monster card
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>>182706568
New mechanics that don't involve making new card types would be better we don't need a jumbled mess.
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>>182706879
Good thing this doesn't happen with new ED monsters.
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>>182706879
that happen multiple times already in this game, starting when gravity bind got the shaft.
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I was thinking.
What if the Ritual Exclusive is a "Discard to search Ritual/buff Ritual/do something good to your Ritual"?
Or maybe is a Ritual Tuner? That also can banish itself and use Ritual Materials, including a Synchro, to Ritual Summon a monster that also gains the effect of the Synchro Monster?
Yes... I dream too much.
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>>182707369
>What if the Ritual Exclusive is a "Discard to search Ritual/buff Ritual/do something good to your Ritual"?
Nekroz was a thing, y'know.
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>>182707093
>>182707254
Those don't affect nearly as many cards though. I'm pretty sure a new main deck card type would be unable to be negated by anything until they printed new cards specifically to negate that card type.
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>>182707519
What if TCG decides to do it with ALL Rituals instead of only Nekroz?
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>>182706879
But that's already happened. Twice now.
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>>182707661
get some air
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>>182706879
>>182707538
>Toadally Awesome can't do anything while Cyber Dragon Infinity can
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>>182707790
Yeah...
I better just eat some noodles with tomate sauce I maded. I'm hungry.
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>>182707887
Oh, so there are cards that negate things without specifying card type. Still, most of them aside from Cyber Dragon Infinity require specific circumstances, like targeting, destruction, or burn damage. So the majority of "new" type cards would not be able to be negated.
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>>182707887
That toadally suck.
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>>182705903
>the star is just the head and the tentacles are the body

What does the rest of this guy even look like?

Also what's wrong with pic related's face?
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>>182706568
Pokemon had Ace Specs, a type of card that you could only run one of. Not one of each, just one Ace Spec total in your deck. Some had some pretty solid effects.

They could rerelease banned generic staples. Pot of Greed probably wouldn't be that good if running it meant you couldn't run Painful Choice or Duster or Judgment.
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>>182709086
>>182707538
they could make them half types like pendulums.
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>>182708612
>Also what's wrong with pic related's face?
He tried.
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>>182666639
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>>182709086

That'd be awful, whoever opened with it or drew it first would be at a massive advantage. In formats like goat control the game is long enough for that to even out over the game, but at the current speed the game would be over before the other player drew their broken card.
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>>182709319
>trap pendulums that can only be set in the pendulum zones and have disruptive pendulum effects
make it happen konami
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>>182710154
>In formats like goat control the game is long enough for that to even out over the game
Good one.
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Meanwhile, in a parallel universe...
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>>182706568
Why do we need that, precisely?
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>>182711738
That would utterly ruin the card if it was a fusion, especially with those materials.
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>>182687360
Is getting boring.
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>>182711817
what do we need another extra deck type every new generation?
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>>182712679
Because it's one of the best and most notable aspects of the game.
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>>182712932
Links ruined it though.
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>>182712932
links are awful. Make no mistake they'll pull another board revision like pendulums.
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>>182713160
>links ruined the entire concept of the extra deck
ok
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>>182713326
doubt that I think this is supposed to be the default game from now on.
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>>182711738
It bothers me how fusions are never actually fusions anymore just a completely new monster
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>>182713483
Nah, how's the anime supposed to shill the new type if they need Links to summon more than one?
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>>182713461
>have to play links or you are not allowed to use your ED like you want to
They did.
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>>182713505
But that's always been the case.
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>>182713505
Fusions being actual Fusions will never ever be consistent. The closest thing we'll get is shit like Ritual Beasts, where they are actual Fusions between the archetype's monsters, but you can use any cards from the archetype to make them.
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PRINT ME
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>>182713743
The Extra Deck was ruined when it became something certain decks could spam cards from turn 1. The Extra Deck needed/needs a nerf. Links weren't the right one since they just promote a different type of spam.
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>>182713743
why do you anti link shitters feel the need to whine about links in random conversations not about them

>>182714185
/dlg/ is that way
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>>182713572
>implying they will make a new ed card type
after this we are getting the extra extra deck.
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>>182714185
already got nerf'd with the 15limit
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SPYRALs are so ridiculously good with Links.
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>>182714238
>4 posts in a row talking about links.
>random conversations not about them
Damage control.
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>>182714342
Not good enough. That nerf came at the introduction of Synchros. We've gotten 3 new methods since then.
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Zoo players should gas themselves
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>>182714579
And the Extra Deck hasn't expanded since (excluding Pendulums).
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>>182712007
good. the fact it can deal 5000 damage if you were unfortunate enough to think pendulum for 5 was a good idea is fucking unacceptable
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>>182715048

>but it can deal a lot of damage in this very specific situation, that means it's broken and deserves to be made into a useless card
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>>182715048
>overextending shitter who has no way to beat this monster with no protection
lol
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why is missing the timing a thing
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>>182714939
It doesn't need to expand when Pendulums add more cards to it and Xyz have much better effects than the cards introduced around the time it went to 15 cards. They don't have to expand the extra deck because the cards got better to make up for the smaller size.
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>>182715420
To prevent loops and keep cards from being too good without Konami's permission.
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>>182715458
So you're mad because power creep exists?
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>>182715420
i'd imagine konami did it so you can out floaters at chain link 2 because they thought floating was too broken
doesnt explain the eatos sword though
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Leaks?
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>>182708240
There are more like Infinity, such as U.A. Perfect Ace, Quasar, and Ash Blossom
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>nerf the extra deck
>it doesn't matter because some new kind of cancer takes over
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>>182715420
Why is once per turn a thing?
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>>182715048

>out of all the reasons to pick, he uses that excuse

How about the fact that UCT powercreeps both BLS and CED by being easily searchable and summonable and can only be dealt with by S/T or monsters with quick effect removal/negation since it'll BoE your ass if it even smells you trying to run over it with anything not a Towers.

And the cherry on top is that he enables any floater with the BoE and he can turn 90% of the boss monsters in the game ass up and then ram them into the grave and finally you with 1000 damage for all your trouble.
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>>182715992
there's still 7(SEVEN) unknown cards in the extra pack
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>>182715728
Mad? I'm explaining power creep.
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Is this the worst set ever released?
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>>182716439
>implying Senet Switch won't be meta
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>>182716267

It's a boss monster for a very uncommon type. It's not like BLS and CED at all.
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>>182716298
VJump leaks...
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>>182715420
why is there a difference between you can only use this effect of card name once per turn and you can only activate this effect of card name once per turn
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>>182716439
>Instant Fusion
Yes.
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>>182716656
So that you can activate Bri Fu again if it gets Solemn'd, but not MST'd.
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>>182716439
>Instant Fusion
>Vanity's Fiend
>Senet Switch
>Black Horn
>Barrier Statues
nah
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>>182716654
I thought that was the stuff we just got, with the Magibullet, Weathery, Extra Pack, and Structure Deck reveals?
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>>182716573
It powercreeps Doom Dozer then
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>>182716439
only came to relevance years later
>>182716654
didn't they already happen? within the next 2day maybe
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>>182716439
Name ONE card from this set which will see use anywhere not a kitchen table.
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>>182716851
>Send the top card of their Deck to the Graveyard
Is this back when Konami was still trying to make decking out a thing?
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>>182716439
Second worst.

At least it aged well unlike The Lost Millennium
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>>182716439
>not Circuit Break
CDIP is the new STBL, buy boxes now
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>>182716439

Most of the GX packs are the same. Mostly garbage, 1-2 cards that were relevant at the time, and everything else was only useful years later.
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Does this defeat the Lightning?
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>>182716973
There was King of the Skull Servants, I guess.
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>>182717239
No, since it doesn't have PSCT. It should be updated to say:

You can Special Summon this card (from your hand) by banishing 2 Rock monsters from your GY. Once per turn, during your Standby Phase: Banish 1 Rock monster from your GY, or send this card to the GY. At the start of the Damage Step, if this card battles an opponent's monster: Halve that monster's ATK and DEF.
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Support when?
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>>182717635
>At the start of the Damage Step, if this card battles an opponent's monster: Halve that monster's ATK and DEF.
That's a trigger.
Gaia Plate's effect is continuous.
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>>182716851
>>182717239
So where's the Warrior, Machine, Spellcaster, Dragon and Fiend type version of these type banishers?
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>>182717948
>dragon
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>>182717948
Dunno, but there's this shitter
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>>182714185
Hi Konami, how are you doing?
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>>182690907
Grab a couple of decode talkers and link spiders. When the mega-tins come out get some proxy dragons. If you want a main deck core just collect 3x all Cyberse monsters.
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>>182718685
Wow, that really is garbage.
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>>182719104
Good generic Beast-Warrior support would only lead to trouble
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>>182716439
Rata here
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>>182719104
He becomes a 3k armades if you banish kaleido chick.
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>>182719724
Won't you just use Leo?
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>>182720138
I never said you'd play that thing in Lunalight.
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Will the new pendulum magicians survive in links?
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>>182715562
>>182715970
It's not like we don't have T1 floaters ignoring bullshit missing the timing rulings by actually properly wording them. it's just a way to put a cap on shit decks.
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>>182722304
They didn't even survive before links
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>>182722304
>>182722485
I really have no idea why they had to kill pendulums so damn hard. It might have even been more tactful to simply never print another pendulum again but at the very least leave the old cards as they were.
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>>182722375
>it's just a way to put a cap on shit decks.
I'd disagree but

>all those archetypes which are held back by having one or more of their cards having a "When... you can""

There's no more way Konami could show favoritism than that.
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>>182722375
Missed timing was born from not wanting to ban Woodland Sprite.

Something about an FTK with Archfiend of Gilfer somewhere in the teenage years of this game but by saying "Missed Timing" they saved themselves headaches.
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>>182722485
Lolwut? Pend Magicians is pretty good and will be still playable after Links (as opposed to most other Pend decks).
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>>182722304
It's rogue tier at best.

Like Fluffals with Patchwork.
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>>182722485
>>182722304
>tries to sells a deck jp got as a full fledged booster in a meta where 1 card xyz exist.
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>>182722917
As long as Zoo exists, nothing else matters.
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>>182722917
>pretty good
>no hits on the banlist
>next to no tops, even ABC missing one Hangar is better than them

Magician apologists, ladies and gentlemen.
Defending the same meme deck for months on end for free.
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>>182722304
Yeah, they'll be playable. Lots of ways to add them from ED to hand.
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>>182723380
joker and call are at 1 in the ocg. Particularly joker is a huge deal.
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>>182724716
>both are still at 1 in the OCG
>TCG has 3 Jokers and Calls
>Magicans still aren't doing anything here

That's pretty sad desu.
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>>182725015
We still have zoo though. Not until zoo is gone and link format starts can we see if pend magicians can do well in the future.
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>>182725015
Didn't they top in Chicago?
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>>182725381
No
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>>182725381
They're rogue tier senpai
>ABC somehow tops more than them
If only Blue-eyes could be as good as them, then Kaiba would be undoubtedly King of Games with two decks in the meta.
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How do we go from the Arc-V era that had almost every single summoning type be meta at least once to Vrains era in which Links can't even take off.

Lets see: (Meta being tier 3 or higher)
Fusion: Shaddolls, Metalfoes
Synchro: Yang Zing, Blue-Eyes
Xyz: Tellars, Zoodiac, PK Fire
Contact: Ritual Beast, ABC
Pendulum (All extra deck methods): Pepe, Magicians, DDD
Ritual: Nekroz
Tribute: Qliphort, Monarchs, True Draco
Normal: Yosenju
Special: Infernoids, Kozmo

Even non-MC anime decks were at least viable
Fluffals, Raidraptors, Cardian, Moonlights, Superheavy

After typing this, Im surprised Konami did not make a (non-raidraptors) Rank-Up deck.
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>>182727041
Qlis were the first meta Pendulum deck right? How long after Pendulums were introduced did they enter the game?
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>>182727041
Phantom Knights
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>>182727041
>How do we go from the Arc-V era that had almost every single summoning type be meta at least once to Vrains era in which Links can't even take off.

Probably because after how bad Arc-V flopped while DM breathed new life into the franchise, Konami got undeniable proof that nobody cares about game mechanics, only about what cards their favorite characters used so they stopped trying with the card game and are more focused on pandering to character fanbases.

Even Duel Links has no Synchro, Xyz or Pendulum and yet over a million people downloaded it.
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>>182727041
>Yang Zing
>meta
>ever
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>>182727371
Second set.
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>>182727508
they're meta literally right now
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>>182727537
Aren't they just used as play extenders in Dino Structure Deck memes?
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>>182727537
>a deck with l i t e r a l l y no tops is meta
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>>182727041
>Meta being tier 3 or higher
Then might as well put Lunalight since anything tier 2 is just OTK decks that die by any disruption from the top tiers
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>>182727861
Everything in that post was tier 1 at one point.
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>>182727986
>Yosenju
>Infernoids
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>>182728180
Grass Zoodiac Infernoid was meta
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>>182728410
I agree. It wasn't tier 1 though.
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>>182727986
>Yang Zing, Yosenju, DDD, Tellars and Ritual Beast
>tier 1
Deluded DUEA niggers thinking that are present in this general i swear. And i say DUEA because everyone whines that it was the most diverse format and that whole post screams "muh diversity" by thinking the majority of the shit listed was tier 1 or viable at all.
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Monkeyboard can come off the list once it gets "sangan'd" right? aka card and it's effects it searches can't be used
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>>182727041
>the only things on this list to survive to now are ABC and True Dracos.

You forgot Invoked and Dinos though senpai.
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>>182727415
Rating are irrelevant to a merchandise driven show. Like Gundam, it doesn't care about how good or bad the ratings are, but how well products get moved.

And Arc-V era sold well on the whole, while the DM products bombed.
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>>182728546
>DDD
>Tellars
>not tier 1 at some point
Moron
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>>182728546
>implying D/D and Tellars weren't tier 1 during a certain period in 2016 and 2014 respectively

I agree than YZ, Yosenju and RB never made the cut, they were always overrated.
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>>182728693
you don't know what tier 1 is you stupid pojo poster.
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>>182728180
those might not have been tier 1 and neither were yang zing, but all 3 of them had an impact on the meta. (both tcg and ocg)

>>182728568
forgot about Dinos, but I didn't know what to classify Invoked as because they are more of a fusion engine than a fusion deck
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>>182728693
>>182728729
Tellars had 1 big win at worlds when everything else was hit. Other than that they were always behind BA/Shaddoll/Qli/Nekroz
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>>182728859
Didn't OCG Tellars do really well because of Star Seraphs?
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>>182728729
>>182728693
Tellars for all i know weren't tier 1 or had as many tops as Nekroz. Yeah they won worlds but so did Infernity and nobody saw that shit coming.

And DDD was NEVER tier 1 in the TCG because we got pendulum domination delayed two weeks before RATE and in the OCG it only had few tops unlike other shit that was present during that format
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>>182728970
Seraphs ended up working better in dolls
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>>182728682
>And Arc-V era sold well on the whole, while the DM products bombed.

>he missed the DSoD MP being the most sold TCG product in Japan all because of Chaos MAX

>he missed the Kaiba SD following suit because of ABC

Only time DM products possibly bombed were those terrible DP/CP with the Silents and Legacy of the Worthless tier decks.
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>>182729027
always sad we got em late.
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>>182729037
You forgot the Millennium sets
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>>182729004
>And DDD was NEVER tier 1 in the TCG because we got pendulum domination delayed two weeks before RATE and in the OCG it only had few tops unlike other shit that was present during that format

It was part of the big 3 of the OCG during ABC format though.
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>>182729037
Two products sold well out of how many? We had Two DPs and the Millennium sets, the Yugi deck, etc

Compared to how many good selling products from Arc-V?
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>>182729223
Interesting, i tought OCG also dealed with ABC, Metalfoes and Paleozoic being the top 3 decks. I am still correct on the TCG side though and its still infuriating that they delayed that set while giving us Alexander but never released any D/D tuner
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>>182729037
DSoD only sold to get Alternative, the Gadgets and Max for support outside the pack. Other than that it was shit.
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Jesus, this guy was so anally devastated about Magibullets being able to use traps from hand

He just wouldn't stop screaming and throwing a tantrum about it

He was playing the new Cyberdarks lul
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>>182729587
>Tell the dude that you can use traps from hand because of the monster's effects
>NOT MY FUCKING PROBLEM
>mfw
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>>182729587
you gotta shit talk these dudes right back bro. only way for them to stfu.
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>>182729391
>i tought OCG also dealed with ABC, Metalfoes and Paleozoic being the top 3 decks.

Paleos never really made it out of rogue/tier 3 either because it was imported too late and Zoo showed up or HFD being a thing in Japan.

I never really considered the deck all that strong since nobody gave a shit about it before Toadally Awesome came out.

ABC was just good out of the box, Metalfoes new support let them surpass Blue-eyes and D/D rose up that high since BE's bad ABC matchup but ok Metalfoes matchup left it in an awkward place in the meta while D/D had ok matchups all across the board and most of the time lost to pilot error.

>>182729430
What more could you ask for a nostalgia grab side set?

I still remember those days when Cubics took up so much pack space that people on Twitter were posting pics of ripped up Vjams since the deck was pure garbage only used for filler.

Here's my favorite part of irony
>Kaiba based movie
>Kaiba gets the least slots in the pack
>his cards are still the best while Yugi's cards are cucked out of his deck for Kaiba

Gets me everytime.
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>>182729587
>Not saying "Not my problem you can't read a card"
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>>182729813
Oh right the OCG has HFD, that'd explain why burgers never took off
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>>182728556
Monkeyboard would be fine how it is at 1 right now. But I doubt its ever coming back.
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>>182728556
All of the Pendulum shit could be at 3 and it will STILL be a fucking worthless trash deck after the 21st
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wow Cherry is such a shit player. Called Ancient Gear cancer
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>>182730376
These are the kinds of players that consider anything that beats them in a duel 'cancer'.

Really gets the noggin joggin
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which one of you is Cherry. It has to be someone from here.
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>>182731085
caught me ;)
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>>182731285
These results say otherwise.
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>>182731285
Is Ehther just Dante in a suit of armor?
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>>182731434
Dante is a female?!
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>>182731434
No but i'm sure Dante was smashing that celestial ass until beatrice came out
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LMAO this guy keeps getting funnier

>Ragequits when I ghost ogre his Cyberdark Field
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>>182731983
Let's see if i can find him and duel him
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>>182732356
He's on YGOPro USA

Try to find his name on all the available rooms
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>>182731983
that's probably my fault. I used player as a name and he accepted like 10 rematches and i kept using Ghost Ogre. Also could someone post field2.png from the ygopro textures folder?
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>>182731285
>>182731412
Is this really a fair comparison of a decks raw strength
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>>182729587
>>182731983
What type of decks attract this type of obnoxious playerbase?

If you're going to play the game, at least learn the rules and don't go ballistic when you lose.
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>>182732486
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>>182732614
Thanks dude
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>>182732557
mainly nostalgia decks like cyberdarks and dark magician. shitters go in expecting to wreck house and get fucked by anything competent
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>>182732835
I saw him quit against Dark Magician, so it can't be that.
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CHERRY IS GETTING SMACKED AROUND BY FUCKING REVERSAL QUIZ

MY SIDES GODDAMMIT
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>>182717239
Since Gaia Plate is a continuous effect that applies since the start of the damage calculation, and Lightning effect set his ATK on damage calculation, no.
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>>182732951
Maybe if I didn't keep "-9" myself I would have won that last game but eh win some lose some.
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cherry left
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>>182734626
Did you pop him?
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>RR player just summons a seven sins
>Tries to kill the king (he was at 4000 ATK but i know Seven Sins can save itself)
>Princess eff
>Dude scoops
I'm 2spooky4u
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I go join the lobby seeing that you guys are stalking a shitter and this is the first thing i see. Is this the cherry dude?
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>>182735898
probably
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Should I spend $90 on three secret Judgement Dragons?
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So in a $20 tourney, Raidraptors would win right? they got two towers.
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>>182737159
You could spend the same to hire a hooker to cure your interest on yugioh
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Does anyone know if misprinted cards are worth any money? I have an ultimate rare Goldd, Wu-Lord of Dark World from elenetal energy with a little bit cut off the botom of the card so it has a larger border on top of the card.
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I just realized that while D/D/Ds had healthy support overall (55 cards), it's fucking ridiculous that 16 of those are extra deck monsters.
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Anyone else feel like the SPYRAL link was something the deck was designed around from the start, instead of a simple band aid? It just makes the deck flow a little too well to be a patchwork solution.
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>>182739717
>patchwork
I see what you did there
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>>182717685
UNBAN FUCKING WHEN
FUCK YOU TEWART, ITS BEEN THREE YEARS
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that isn't Code of the Duelist
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>>182713160
>>182713326
Samefag
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Fuck. Marry. Ignore.
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>>182741401
>le everyone who hates links is one person o_O xD
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so the tcg is going to die in 6 days. How are you spending these last few days before everything goes to shit?
Me? Well I sold all my stuff, pretty much everything is going to crash and I feel bad for the retards who still don't know the new rules.
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>>182742691
Yugioh is mobage now.
Stop living in the past
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>>182743313
I'm glad duel links doesn't have link monsters
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>>182743313
Did this structure make ANY results at all?
Is this the worst structure deck ever?
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>>182616474
Exodia and destiny board decks are still fun as fuck from day one to now. Even more so now that Necross is legal and imperial custom exists.
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>>182727750
May I redirect you to
>>182688337
>7 Yang Zing Dinosaur winners this week
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>>182739358
That's not a misprint, that's just a poor cut. An actual misprint would be having something printed incorrectly on the card, and Konami attempting to destroy all copies of that misprint. If Konami decides that an error is insignificant enough to continue printing (like with 1 print of Chaos Emperor Dragon which has a small spelling error), it's not considered a proper misprint. Miscuts don't count either.
The only example I know off the top of my head af a "real" misprint is pic related, where they accidentally put a level star instead of the EARTH attribute orb.
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>>182743385
*Starter Deck. It's designed and marketed towards shitters.
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>>182745049
What about Riryouku field? Dont have a pic but it mispells spell of all things
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The only thing thing about links that makes me happy is all the plummeting prices. By September, I should be able to make every deck I ever wanted for pretty cheap. But only if prices plummet as hard as I hope, but it's not a stock market, so I assume a card that's worth $30 right now would be $15ish by March next year. Am I right, or am I reading the market wrong?
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Out of all four cards, which one is the best?

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/LINK_VRAINS_Edition
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>>182745313
who cares, they're all bad
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>>182745313
No contest
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>>182742691
playing shitty stun decks at locals before i buy link stuff
i love flipping drowning so much
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>>182745154
That card is from the Decode structure, not the starter deck.
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>>182745203
Now try actually playing those obsolete decks you retard.
>Mom! i'm building Goyo Defender!
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>>182716083
kaek
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>>182741249
if is not now then never
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>>182611302
Hayai
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>>182741559
Kill all of them.
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>>182741559
Fuck harbinger,marry prime and ignore neo
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>>182731434
>>182731781
Do not insult Ehther that way. Also, you do know that Dante was a cuck, right?
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>>182745508
How do you outplay these things?
Once they open the one which burns you for 200 for drawing and set 4, they flip reincarnation, present card, disturbance strategy and reincarnation and then burn you to death.
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What decks are you going to be happy to see get killed by Links?
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>>182749648
I don't see how considering he was into facesitting which his waifu happily obliged to. It was DM that was the cuck.
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>>182742691
Play both Link and a custom unofficial unlink format.
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>>182750149
None because Links don't kill Zoodiac
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>>182742691
No way I could quit when my cards are receiving a gigantic power boost.
I'd have to take advantage of that.
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>>182742691
>play Deskbots
>mfw Missus Radiant
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>>182750810
Winda is so fucking cute.
But Caam is still the cutest from the Gusto tribe, too bad she didn't get a Ritual Beast retrain.
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>>182742691
ONLINE as always.
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>>182729341
You don't even have sales numbers. Stop making shit up.
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>>182751225
>filename
>>182751308
Hope you get a worse treatment that you did to Amelia, Firbrizo. Not that Lord of Nightmares would pop up of nowhere to give you the right treatment like she did that time.
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Why is AI justice such a damn cheater.
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>>182751969
Cheating in what way, anon?
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>>182742691
It's not actually going to die though.
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>>182751225
>too bad she didn't get a Ritual Beast retrain.
She's dead dude.
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>>182752067
Mind Crush first turn and calling them both right. I know its an AI and it needs to know but get outta here with that shit. Im salty as fuck
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>>182752440
She got to be a superhero before she died, so it's okay.
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>>182752841
She becomes into a generic Rank 4 that most people use.
Truly, this is good.
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>>182753132
S-slut...
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>>182749971
mst their field spell
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>>182753267
>slut
I'm gonna ask you to dele this now.
Being popular and generic doesn't mean that she is a slut, she is honoring the Gustos and people remember her existence.
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>>182752841
Emeral happens after Poisonous Wind.
Therefore it can't be Caam.
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rate
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>>182742691
I want to try Links, that's for sure.
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>>182753687
Denko/10
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>>182753558
Sure it Caam
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>>182753558
It's absolutely Caam. Not only is that her recycling effect on Emeral, but the only other fitting Gusto option is Musto, and his Xyz representation was being Merrowgeist's tail.
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What about Kamui waifu and Pilica mother?
I know she died but did she got reincarnated into something?
Even Falco revived after Tierra got owned.
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>>182753504
SLUT SLUT SLUT SHE TAKES GISHKI COCK.
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>on dueling book
>testing a new deck
>play against zoodiac deck
>takes 15 years to complete one turn for opponent
>quit
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>>182753812
>>182753863
It's GK Emerald.
The only reason Gusto survived the massacre is because GK came to help.
She probably gives her last power to Emerald, changing Emerald into Emeral, which then repels the Poisonous Wind.
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>>182754134
That's fake.
Gishkis and Nekroz are well knowed for being addicted to death fish cocks (and sometimes pussies)
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>>182754049
>Pilica mother
Pilica is descendant of Gusto, not necessarily the direct descendant.
Reeze is probably her grandmother or something.

Judging from Kamui's age, Reeze probably died of old age peacefully, that's why she never appears.
Falco died in war along with Winda, and then revived as Shaddoll, that's why he got revived.
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>>182754672
Gee Winda, how did you and Falco got revived yet Caam is not here?
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>>182754421
It's almost like Extra Deck monsters are made of two or more different materials, or something. Why are you so convinced that Caam was dead before she could become part of a monster that she is clearly a part of?
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>>182754462
CAAM IS A WHORE!!
!>>182754049
REEZE A THOT
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>>182754462
You liar the gusto girls come to the giski domain for gishki cock.
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>>182755180
Too bad that Avance has eyes for his redhead waifu only unless those two are secretly into fffm
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>>182754906
See >>182752440
>a monster that she is clearly a part of
There's no trace of Caam at all in the art of Emeral.
The only thing you got going is the effect, which isn't necessarily means Caam is still alive by then.

>It's almost like Extra Deck monsters are made of two or more different materials
It's not necessarily that in DT worlds.
It's not like non-GK can just fuse into one body or something.
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>>182754816
Because Caam never get to ride a badass bird.
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>>182745696
It's not about playing the deck, it's just having it
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>>182755872
Nigga what
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>>182755470
>It's not like non-GK can just fuse into one body or something.
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>>182755470
I don't have time to go on about how good Gen 2 DT is with showing which monsters are combining to form ED monsters (cross-tribe ones, specifically) or Evigishkis or whatever, but if you're going to be hung up on Poisonous Winds as though getting poisioned means that you only have seconds to live, then have fun believing that there's a Daigusto monster that doesn't actually have a Gusto component.
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>>182751202
>6th zone for Jet
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>>182756491
Yeah, it's not like being a part of an archetype needs you to be fused with a member of said archetype or something.

>>182756465
There's many "exception" like Vylon, the lswarm, and other shit, but they all are non-human.
Caam is clearly human and there's no precedent of a Gem-Knight fused with other tribe.

Well there is, but it's more like Vylon one-sidedly becomes an armor decoration.
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Share your crawler decklists with me, I know they're shit but I really like em, I just dont know how to build them properly
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>>182757194
>tfw the scissors aren't censored
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>>182758227
they have the green glow, that's censored enough
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>being so neet you actually timeslip into different era
why can't it be caam or something
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>>182750803
The actual Dante, friend. Apologies for not specifying that.
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>>182758694
Is this actually good support for Nekroz?
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>>182758978
It requires Shurit to be unbanned
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>>182734134
That's not how it works.
Lightning's effect activates and sets its ATK to 5000, but Gaia Plate's effect is always active so the ATK becomes 2500 again
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r8 h8
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>>182760134
Setting the ATK override any stats manipulation that's applied before it.
Just like how Lightning ATK still becomes 5K in damage calculation even though Empowerment/Towers/that one Qli scale that reduce ATK is face-up on field.

Here's some related ruling.
>If this effect is activated while "Number S39: Utopia the Lightning" is equipped with "Rising Sun Slash", its ATK becomes 5000 during that damage calculation only. (The ATK is not recalculated by the effect of "Rising Sun Slash".) After damage calculation, it gains 500 ATK for each Rising Sun Counter on "Rising Sun Slash".[2]
>http://www.db.yugioh-card.com/yugiohdb/faq_search.action?ope=5&fid=15302&request_locale=ja
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>>182761153
dunno why we're having this discussion about this again, you would think people would know this by now. We went through a whole format of this shit when towers was legal and only like 2 cards could take him down most times, crab and that boost attack light warrior.
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>https://www.db.yugioh-card.com/yugiohdb/faq_search.action?ope=5&fid=19270&keyword=&tag=-1&request_locale=ja
>Q: What happens if I attack opponent's Lightning with my Zushin?
>A: Even though Lightning have Armades effect, Zushin is immune to it, so you can still activates Zushin's effect.
>On damage calculation, Zushin effect will activates as CL1 because it's mandatory, then opponent can choose to activates Lighting effect
>either way, Zushin ATK will be Lightning ATK +1000
Best boy ruled to win against LIGHTNING.
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>>182742691
i don't know the link rules, will be fored too when percy implements them though.
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>>182763776
People still think Tiaramisu targets after 5 years
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>>182739537
I don't see the problem with that. Don't tell me you don't play 16 cards in the extra just like Reiji.
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>>182763958
>gamera
>>
>Every time I like an archetype aesthetically, it ends up being shit

Why are crawlers and metaphys so bad, jesus christ
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>>182764480
Because you touch your self at night.
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>>182764480
Crawlers are okay
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>>182763958
Alot of things beat the lightning
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>>182764480
>crawlers
>bad
Just give them to your opponent en masse to block their field.
If your opponent Link using them, their effect will triggers which results in a massive advantage for you.
Or you can just destroy it yourself with Torrential and it'll still proc their effect.
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>>182764974
delete
I regret everytime
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>>182764974
Except you can count in your hand how many monsters can do it in battle.
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>>182765095
Never, you will know what you've made

>>182765181
True, true

goddamn captchas
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>>182765296
man, fuck reading
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>>182765603
If your talking about the skip part, I clicked skip it gave it to me a second time, i clicked the bike that time and it worked. so again Damn captchas
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>>182764480
>metaphys
>bad
the fuck? i thought they were broken

>>182764926
>>182765062
anyone got a decklist?
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>>182739537
>55 cards
>healthy

Do you know how many archetypes have less than 20 cards worth of support and still managed to be meta?

Like Burning Abyss only had 4 cards when they first started and ABC in total has only 6 cards of actual support but only uses 5 of them.
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>>182766052
at least all 90% of them arent unplayable garbage like most anime shit
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>>182766052
>ABC in total has only 6 cards of actual support but only uses 5 of them.
7.
Either you forgot pic related, or AtoZ.
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>>182767059
>AtoZ
I honestly forgot about that until you mentioned it.

Why even make it if they knew nobody would ever use it?
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>>182767634
Maybe that was their attempt at balance. Magnet Warriors can actually summon Imperion Magnum pretty easily, so they made AtoZ worse to balance out ABC being better than Berserkion? Obviously it still didn't balance them properly though.
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>>182767634
Shits and giggles or pack filler, I guess. Or just not understanding how the deck would actually work.
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>>182767634
abcs were meant to be xyz support, but they ended up working without them better than with them
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>>182768240
I mean, they did end up being used as Xyz support
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>>182768596
>we still don't have Outer Entity Azzathoth
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>>182768835
world prize ;^)
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>>182767879
>Magnet Warriors can summon Imperion Magnum pretty easily.

Except Magnum is worse than AtoZ, only OPT omni-negate and doesn't even banish or steal the card and only floats when destroyed.

AtoZ is a Herald of Perfection and the deck gives card advantage out of the ass so it'll never be out of negates and it floats anytime you want it so it OTKs.

Why even sell these decks as rivals? One is what everybody plays and one is what nobody plays.

It's like Blue-eyes and Dark Magician all over again except ABC is better than Blue-eyes and Magnet Warriors are so bad, even Dark Magician is better than them.
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Will cyberse reach PePE levels of power?
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>the vullet reloads itself
>revolving the pistol bring out a vullet out of nowhere
>but reloading needs you to actually have a vullet ready
I don't understand.
>>
So the new parshath got revealed.Why are fairies stunshit?
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>>182769842
>nobody plays
Let's not go too far now. You seem to forget about the large amount of casual players in this game.
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>>182771191
Because they're gods/servants of gods and are using their absolute power to make you stop playing.
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>>182765062
That's now how Crawlers are worded; neither of those methods would proc them. They have to leave the field while in the possession of their original owner to trigger, and they don't trigger off of being used as Link Material.

If you're going to be a shitter on the sidelines like me, at least do your research.
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>>182772887
>newfag
See the pic.
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>>182771808
Sounds like this deck is gonna be the terrible one imo.
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>>182773282
I'm waiting to see what the Santuary retrain does, I'm hoping for one
I hope it comes with an improved Divine Punishment too
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>>182773676
By terrible I mean annoying to play against.I hope they don't have ariadne plays.
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>>182770516
I'm def not gonna say no, it's gonna take 6 months to a year. we all know konami can break any card type they want. They've shown that several times now.
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>>182773676
>yfw we get counter traps which re set themselves like Scrap Iron Scarecrow
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>>182774214
>negate a card/effect return it to the hand but cards with that name/effect can't be used for that turn
>>
Why does it feel like some of the questions asked in the rulings thing are common sense questions. Like if a monster is face down why would an effect that targets a face-up monster work?
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>>182774214
>counter traps that activate from the hand
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Wait what? Tower is unbanned in the OCG?
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>>182775203
people are dumb
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>>182775510
>>182775510
>>182775510
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>>182775203
>Q: I activate the effect of Destrudo, Dread of the Dead Drake, targeting a Linkslayer on my field. If my opponent chains Book of Moon and changes Linkslayer to face-down Defense Position, how does the effect of Destrudo, Dread of the Dead Drake resolve?
>A: Even if the monster targeted with the effect of Destrudo, Dread of the Dead Drake is in face-down Defense Position when its effect resolves, Destrudo, Dread of the Dead Drake itself is Special Summoned normally, but its Level does not change. Furthermore, in this case, Destrudo, Dread of the Dead Drake is still placed on the bottom of the Deck if it leaves the field.
>Source: https://www.db.yugioh-card.com/yugiohdb/faq_search.action?ope=5&fid=21228&keyword=&tag=-1&request_locale=ja
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>>182775527
>page 2
Really?
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>Q: When I activate Security Block, targeting a Dual Assembloom on my field, but my opponent chains Book of Moon and changes Dual Assembloom to face-down Defense Position, how does the effect of Security Block resolve?
>A: As in this scenario, if the targeted Cyberse-Type monster is in face-down Defense Position when Security Block resolves, both parts of the effect are applied normally.
>Source: https://www.db.yugioh-card.com/yugiohdb/faq_search.action?ope=5&fid=21212&keyword=&tag=-1 &request_locale=ja
Security Block target a Cyberse monster in field, meaning it can only targets a face-up monster because face-down monster doesn't have type..
Yet it still works perfectly.

Have fun.
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>>182776352
Icarus attack works in face-down winged beasts and you can fuse with face-down archetypes. Seems consistent to me.
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