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Old Thread >>182407367

Game released with Prologue (Fuyuki) and Chapters 1 (Orléans) and 2 (Septem)

>[FAQ]
http://pastebin.com/Hp918cqA
>[Mega Pastebin]
http://pastebin.com/HTrhq7Nk

>[Wiki]
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.org/

>[Master Recruitment Campaign]
Campaign Period: June 26, 2017 (Mon) 9:00 PM ~ July 31, 2017 (Mon) 23:59 UTC
If you create an account during this period, you receive the following rewards:
4* CE: Beginning of the Journey
4* Servant: Saber Lily
6,000 FP, 10x 4* All EXP, 5x 3* All HP Fou, 5x 3* All ATK Fou and 30x Saint Quartz

>[66,666 Facebook likes, Gilgamesh rate up - Pt.2]
Campaign period: July 13, 2017 (Thu) 4:00 AM ~ July 20, 2017 (Thu) 3:59 AM UTC
If you log-in consecutively for the period mentioned above you'll get:
1st Login - 1 Summon Ticket, 3m QP
2nd Login - 1 Summon Ticket, 10k FP
3rd Login - 1 Summon Ticket, 10x 4* All EXP
4th Login - 1 Summon Ticket, 5x 3* All ATK Fou
5th Login - 1 Summon Ticket, 5x 3* All HP Fou
6th Login - 1 Summon Ticket, 5x Golden Fruits
7th Login - 1 Summon Ticket, 50x Mana Prisms

>[Campaigns & Miscellaneous stuff]
- The welfare 4* Servant is now available in the Shop, exchange the voucher you get in your giftbox for it.
- First Order Bluray Release Celebration Quest - July 06~13th.
- The Half-AP cost Campaign is in effect until July 20th.

>Drop rates (click on the NA tab): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_SlTjrVRTgHgfS7sRqx4CeJMqlz687HdSlYqiW-JvQA

>Add yourself to the friendlist
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSctk0n_OdMusCdkzQPQu8AHD-3Drc0kXqHOmKWJDpY-VkHVEg/viewform
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USHI
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I want to cum inside BB
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It is done.
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do you guys put beginning of the journey in support setup
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>>182417105
Please don't post such low-res stuff of my wife
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Use this wheel

http://wheeldecide.com/index.php?c1=5-Star+CE&c2=5-Star+Servant&c3=5-Star+CE&c4=4-Star+Servant&c5=4-Star+CE&c6=4-Star+Servant&c7=4-Star+CE&c8=OG+Cu&c9=Black+Keys&c10=OG+Cu&c11=Black+Keys&c12=OG+Cu&c13=Black+Keys&c14=Sumanai&c15=Black+Keys&c16=Saber+Gilles&c17=Boudica&c18=Proto+Cu&c19=Saber+Gilles&c20=Boudica&c21=Proto+Cu&c22=Saber+Gilles&c23=Boudica&c24=Proto+Cu&c25=Fat+Caesar&c26=Fat+Caesar&c27=Black+Keys&c28=Black+Keys&c29=Black+Keys&c30=Black+Keys&c31=Medusa&c32=Medea&c33=Medusa&c34=Medea&c35=Ushiwakamaru&c36=Alexander+Shota&c37=Ushiwakamaru&c38=Alexander+Shota&c39=Darius+III&c40=Jing+Ke&c41=Mephistopheles&c42=Darius+III&c43=Jing+Ke&c44=Mephistopheles&c45=Black+Keys&c46=Black+Keys&c47=Black+Keys&c48=Black+Keys&c49=Robin+Hood&c50=Caster+Cu&c51=Robin+Hood&c52=Caster+Cu&c53=Crystal+CE&c54=Pendant+CE&c55=Shinji+CE&c56=Crystal+CE&c57=Pendant+CE&c58=Shinji+CE&c59=Crystal+CE&c60=Pendant+CE&c61=Shinji+CE&c62=Azoth+Blade+CE&c63=Dragonkin+CE&c64=Tome+CE&c65=Azoth+Blade+CE&c66=Dragonkin+CE&c67=Tome+CE&c68=Black+Keys&c69=Black+Keys&c70=Black+Keys&c71=Black+Keys&time=5
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Reminder that if you really want her, you will save EVERY SINGLE QUARTZ AND TICKET until April 2018.
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>>182417215
I don't know what you mean, perhaps post more hires so I can find out?
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>>182417105
How do I check the friendlist?
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>>182417215
80% of that body is filled with penisworms
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Don't forget to do a 10 roll today
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>>182417105
I think someone's already calculated this before, but how many free rolls do you get per month on average? Not including apologems.
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>>182417347
Oh you and your memes, anon
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>>182417105
How much time do I have to save up for my favorite girl? (Even though she's kinda not her but I'll take what I can get.)
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>>182417347
>not recognizing BB and Blossom-sensei

VN babby confirmed
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>>182417105
Why did you remove the Master Mission reminder?
Why did you remove the friendlist doc?
Why did you remove the last message about checking the schedule and droprates?
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>>182417286
>implying they aren't going to release her early to drain everyone's wallets
so young, so naive
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>>182417203
No, I just have it on someone in the backrow.

>>182417286
Limited 5* so not even on my radar. I MIGHT get one of the standard when trying to roll for a rate-up 4*, and I'm dropping cash on the paid G5s so I won't be an account with none at all, but limited 5* are like "Fuck it, I'm never going to get this."
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>>182417398
63
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000,581,855

Looking for friends with a decently leveled Saber Alter or Altera.
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>tfw you only really like Tsukihime girls
>tfw you will never have the urge to buy quartz
It's a good feel. I can just play for fun and not expect anything. Even girl Shiki is free supposedly.
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>>182417106
I mean, I agree to an extent. I would have 'preferred' to not know the twists regarding Solomon. But that doesn't take my experience away.
God fucking knows I can't ever play an Ace Attorney game without getting spoiled by /v/ beforehand. AA6 was honest to god the first time I somehow managed to avoid spoilers for the series in my whole time playing the series, but it doesn't mean I didn't enjoy the hell out of all the games (even the bad cases of 4, 5, and 2)
Sure, twists make moments a lot of fun.
But I don't think they really define an experience. The only times they do are for things like Shamalayan movies and such, which basically rely on surprise twists.

>>182417364
So in other words, you can't find it, because it didn't happen.
I wouldn't have said that, because I started FSN with the shitty Deen anime,
before moving onto the VN, then Zero, then UBW UFO, then Extra, then Extella, then HA,
then Fake, then Prisma, then Apocrypha summary, and now Fate/GO and Apocyrpha anime

Yea my order is dogshit, but I didn't start with Zero.
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Why is jeanne so fucking easy to ascend to max
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>>182417286
150 Quartz and 6 tickets so far. But I might loses some trying to get Saber Alter along the way
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>>182417524
>maximum friends reached
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>>182417598
Sorry, forgot to clean out the inactives.
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>>182417347
Thank goodness you're mistaking them for someone else, right? Those bodies are filled with just data.
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>WORMS in the op pic

Disguting
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>>182417621
Sent
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>>182417629
Ye I'd fill her with my data if you know what I mean
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>>182417191

Hey, congrats. I did the same tonight.

There seem to be a lot of level 90 Jeannes now. Hunh. Well, hopefully mine still appeals as well. I was lucky enough to get a Formalcraft to put on her, so that's something at least.
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>>182417464
>knowing everything
m8, the only thing people ever fucking spoil are the 'big twists'
They don't spoil anything else. You miss out on maybe 1% of revelations and such through people forcefully spoiling the big twists on you.
JPfags are desperate to prove their experience of GO is not only worth it, but justification for why the English version shouldn't exist. It's why there's a /fgog/ fag in every new /fgoalter/ thread that tries to spoil the big twists for people that haven't seen them yet, because you fags are butthurt about people experiencing the story in a more convenient way but later.
Get over it. Move on. No one is sitting here and arguing with you that say, Zero is better than FSN, or that the anime experience is superior to VN, you're just being butthurt about people experiencing something later on than you.
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>>182417347
Don't know they are only Sakuras in body and nothing else
at least these are worms free
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Remember when we just started and had comfy threads?
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DANCING WITH JEANNU ALTER
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>>182417524
Just sent, i'm the guy with a level 70waver/artoria with kaleid. Both should be lvl 80 after i get the materials from Nerofest.
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>>182417831
BB's body is superior to Sakura's. Larger chest, wider hips, no worms, better personality.
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>>182417868
You should have known it would be a steady decline to /fgog/ quality, anon.
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This is Typemoon's kanban musume

Say nice things about her
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>>182417347
Sakura is not BB.
The artists of the Fate series just have a horrible time with not drawing same face. The worst part is that they often give same face characters the same hair color.
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>nerofest 1 shop doesnt have hearts of a foreign god
>nerofest 1 battles dont have it on its drop list either


REEEEEEEEEEEEEE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

WHERE THE FUCK DO THEY EVEN DROP REEEEEEEEEE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE REEEEEEEEEEEEEE WE DONT HAVE SHINJUKU OR THE UPDATED DAILY QUESTS WHICH ARE THE ONLY SOURCES REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>182417893
SPENDING 900 QUARTZ AND NOT ROLLING JEANNU ALTER
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>>182417105
Giving Sakura very long hair was a great improvement, along with not letting the fashion disaster that is Takeuchi make her clothes
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who are some good servants for kiyohime/elizabeth focused teams? i've got kiyohime, leonidas and herc for one but i'm not sure who i want for elizabeth past the requirement of lacking a dick.
also, any good reserve servants in general other than cu and his refusal to eat shit?
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>>182417593
>They said that in the worst case scenario, we would still get the servants but there would be no event related to them. So it'd be pretty much like Gil right now
Oy vey, we couldn't get the prisma license from those schmucks at Sentai, we're so sorry goyim. Why don't you take this chance to roll for 4* kuro during this special NA-only rate up?
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>>182417868
Yeah. It's too bad Reddit joined in and started stealing codes meant to help anons start out in order to sell them and then pay us back by shitposting here. For a couple days, it kind of felt like a younger 4chan.
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>>182417995
>mfw I was lied to
>I won't be able to get my Altera to level 90

What tehf uck man
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>>182417975
BB is Mooncell Sakura, and Mooncell Sakura is based on Sakura Matou. Their body is the same.
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>>182417995
Farm the hell out of Friday's daily anon. It's your only hope.
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>>182417524
Sent. She's level 50, but I'm so damn close to ascension. Fucking teeth, man
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>>182417995
You get 3 as a reward for one of the event quests, but that's it.
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>>182418073
Except the worms are non-existent
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>One of my waifus fall in battle
>Based Cu jumps in and avenges them every time

Who's the one Servant you can always rely on?
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>>182418078

But aren't friday dailies

>5 ap -> tooths
>10ap -> golem testicles
>15 ap -> serpent eyes
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If anyone is looking for another lvl 70 Jannu support my friend code is 397,145,734

The rest of my support list is kind of sparse atm, I'm saving for Jalter and Jack.
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I really want Leonidas to choke me with his thighs and since I never got Cu Chulainn to show up I've been needing a Lancer. Decided to level and ascend Leonidas up, try him out on the next Septem story node and BAM.
Leonidas fight out of nowhere. Is this fate?
Should I keep leveling him, and his his extra skill interlude in the game yet? Also his thighs are still great, I like the art.
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>>182418028
I did say giveaways you dumbass, Kuro is coming yes or yes, whether there's a story behind her or she just shows up in the giftbox.
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>>182417164
i want to touch her eyebrows
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>>182418073
>>182417917
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holy fuck, just started watching the first fate anime, and it is so good. Why is it called "Zero" and not "one"?
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>>182418151
Cu fucks your waifu after battle.
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>>182418028
Sentai is usually pretty cooperative with this stuff.
I imagine they'll just ask for a bit of advertising on twitter / facebook for the series on crunchyroll / hulu, and if they're partnered for the movie translation they'll just ask for advertising for the inevitable NA release.
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My servant and 2nd archives is now completely full of gold EXP, is it time to farm QP or start farming mana prisms? I have like 21,000,000 QP right now.
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>>182418154
>friday dailies
>serpent eyes
you're funny, anon
5AP is dragon teeth, 10AP is chaos claws, and 15AP is a random choice between reverse scales & demon hearts
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>>182417329
Here
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1M8_ZNP-WinrDQvwckh6Q7DMK5Z8RSx7ZshXTLCaI4zo
I'm gonna make an early thread next time because other anons can't wait for page tenth to make a new one, lel.
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>>182418151
For me, it's Red Man. He often solos or duos with Waver whatever is left.
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>>182418240


dont take the bait guys
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>>182418129
>mfw I need 5 for Gil
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>People saving up instead of rolling for essences for special summons.
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>>182418151
Cu is probably fucking your waifu once the battle is done anon
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>>182418238
Sakura Matou as an AI is based off the actual Sakura Matou. BB is a creation by Mooncell Sakura, same with Passionlip and Melt.
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>>182418151
Caster Cu.
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>>182417935
The cutest.
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>>182418285

tell that to the one serpent eye I got nigga.
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>>182418302
I know, I know, it's not the original anime, but I prefer the updated look of the remake. I know some people give a fuck about that shit, but I honestly would rather just have the best looking story. It's pretty cool that an anime could actually make a fun game.
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>>182418151
Spartacus
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>>182418252
>>182418326
Not if he doesn't want to commit suicide yet again he ain't.
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>>182418154
nonononono anon
Right now we're on Wednesday dailies
Thursday dailies are phoenix feathers and claws
Friday are hearts, reverse scales, octogems, and jewels.
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>>182417975

... BB was literally created by the Extra universe's version of Sakura Matou to house part of her personality. She does not have the same face, body and hair as Sakura because the artists are bad at drawing unique faces, she looks that way because she's supposed to. What is wrong with you?
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>>182418240
Because you when you start counting you start at zero, pleb
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>>182418151
Old uncle vlad manages to get the job done for me in most cases and when he does bite the dust Jeanne swoops in and carries the rest of the mission
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Fug
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>>182418413
stop baiting retard
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>>182418419
god bless his smile
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YES.
FINALLY.
How's this roll? Got Tamamo Cat on my tutorial roll as well. Should I grab Heracles or Emiya with my free ticket?
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>>182417917
They actually have the same three sizes.
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>>182418472
what the fuck are you talking about? I'm baiting because I don't want to watch an anime from a fucking decade ago? get real, moron.
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>>182418151
Strangely enough, Lancelot. Despite being a squishy berserker he always cleans up when he rolls in. I hope his Saber Version is good.
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>>182418420
>Guts
>revive
>Kill cuck master
>Mana transfer with cuck's waifu to stay around.
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>>182418540
>one more fucking jannufag
>boudica
Reroll
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>>182418542
Stop being retarded
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>>182418542
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>>182418540
>no waver

Anon.......
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>>182418540
It's good but please don't tell me you've been rerolling for two weeks.
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>>182417784
>Ignoring common sense just because you didn't read the official statement yourself

If someone has the link to them OFFICIALLY SAYING that we may get US only heroes due them being unable to acquire licenses for several characters/events in the US then please share it so this retard and others like him will shut up.

The characters they probably won't be able to use are likely ones from join game development collaborations without paying a certain fee over here and those kinds of things can break down in negotiations.

Someone else mentioned the event licensing part that I don't remember well from that statement, I don't know much about the FGO events so I don't know what they had going on with that.
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>>182418624
Which 5Star is needed now anyways?
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>>182418204
he's an excellent servant if you're gonna focus on him supporting berserkers/mad enhancement users like saber gilles (but gilles is kind of shit? i don't know.) i'm happy with him and i swapped out my liz once he got leveled enough. he's doing a good job, but his job is also beefing herc so depending on your team your results will vary.
what will not vary is the quality of his body and his thighs. you have a good eye for the finer things in life. thank you for appreciating them as well.
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>>182418540
>No Waver
>Not even a 5* CE
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>>182418678
>ones from join game development collaborations

Oh, so literally none. Fuck off now
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>>182418540
>no waver
reroll
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>>182418420
Oh yeah, remember how well that worked for Kotomine?
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>>182418678
They've literally only said. "We don't intend to do any region specific characters" and "We intend to do every event if we can"
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>>182418302
You replied, you gave it power. Should've ok known better.
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>>182418286
mfw im the very last one on the list
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>>182418692
Tierfags will say waver but they're all pretty passable besides altria who is garbage
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>>182417442
they can't release her until they release Arjuna and Bryn because they are on her harem.
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>>182418732
>Oh, so literally none. Fuck off now
Are you retarded?
>>As with its predecessor, the game was developed by Imageepoch in collaboration with TYPE-MOON. The scenario was written by Kinoko Nasu, with Takashi Takeuchi as the character designer and Arco Wada as the illustrator.

And that's just ONE example that I found in a few seconds. Why do you know nothing about licensing and development collaborations yet still open your mouth?
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>>182418540
>another jannufag to spam their ascension progress
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>>182418692
Waver and someone else.

But who cares, if you have Saber Alter or Nero you'll do fine
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Reminder that if you don't have a Waver you're better off rerolling, unless you plan on getting him from his rate up gachas
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Please stop arguing.
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>>182417995
Friday's monster hunter.

I got 3 last week.

I needed scales.
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>>182418678
>no source saying there will be NA only servants
>multiple sources saying NA and JP will get the exact same servants
Fuck off dude, it's just pathetic at this point.
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>>182418703
>saber gilles (but gilles is kind of shit? i don't know.)
He sucks. Both versions of him, Boudica, and Jekyll are the absolute worst 3* in the game.
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>>182418654
Can't I use him via friends?
>>182418668
About 11 hours straight now. First 5* Servant I've seen.
>>182418720
>>182418748
Is this a meme? I know he's good, but...
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>>182418640
>>182418651
>>182418778
holy fuck guys, is it that much of a crime not to watch fate zero 2006? fine, you've convinced me, i'll watch that shit then finish zero. christ, you autists are unflinching in your ways.
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>>182418769
And they said US only heroes are not out of the question the same time they said that
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I can't wait to never get Angry Manjew!
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Will your waifu friend-zone you?
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>>182418824
Pathetic, please just go away
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>>182418542
I'll take the fucking bait because I have come to expect this level of retardation from this thread.
Zero is not the first Fate anime. It's a prequel to a VN Fate/Stay Night which also did have an (absolutely horrible and universally hated) anime adaptation.
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>>182418252
>>182418326

What if I don't have my waifu

Who's Cu fucking then, huh
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>>182417347
You're asking to be bullied by the sadistic kouhai BB by spreading such lies.
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>>182418853
Fate/Zero gacha, anon. I'm getting Iskandar and Waver.

;_;
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Roll now for a Saber Alter.
ᴸᶦᵐᶦᵗᵉᵈ ᵒᶠᶠᵉʳ ᵒᶰᶫʸ ᵛᵃᶫᶦᵈ ᶠᵒʳ ᵗʰᵉ ᶰᵉˣᵗ ᵗᵉᶰ ᵐᶦᶰᵘᵗᵉˢ⋅
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>>182417190
Get in line
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>>182418692
Waver isn't 'needed', but two level 90 wavers (yours and a support) will make your shitty 2 or 3 star waifu godly since it will get its NP off like 3 times every 6 turns. It's great for meme teams. Double merlin is even better and just makes you invincible since you'll literally never have to worry about enemy NP ever again.
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>>182418950
(You) anon he is going to fuck (you)
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>>182418912
here's your (You) now fuck off
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>>182418912
Stop being retarded
(You)
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>>182418873
You're just trolling man.

The statement about US only heroes being possible was released recently from sometime around US launch to now.

Those previous statements where they said they were going to bring everything over probably didn't foresee certain licensing character issues that wouldn't be around for launch.
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Damnit, I just want my Herc or Emiya to hit level 60, or my Cu to his level 50. Why are the ascension drop gods so cruel?
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>>182418427

5 ap dailies on fri dropped me 10 dragon teeths
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>>182418934
Anyone who says no is lying unless it's Mash or Kiyohime.
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>>182418921
Angry Manjew will never appear in any animated serie or movie, because those tattoos would be a pain in the ass to animate.
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>>182418453

Do the dailys, anon. You got ~19 hours before they roll over. The green ones today drop Basakaa pieces.
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I'm going to spend the tickets we get in the next 7 days because I have no restraint
The question is, do I roll for Gilgamesh or go for Saber Alter?
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>>182418956
is she really sadistic
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>182418912
>fate zero 2006
okey, you fucked up, no more (you)s
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>>182418540
>No Lord El Memelloi
IT'S RAW
IT'S FUCKING RAW
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>>182419103
A bit. Nothing too extreme.
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>>182418909
I mean if you actually like Jeannu then go for it.
Other than that Waver is the official Esports character. And then once you roll Waver people are going to meme you saying you only rolled 1 5 star.
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>>182418921
I wanna get Manjew too anon good luck
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>>182419042
Won't stop studios like Ufotable from using cgi for his tattoos.
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Is Carmilla worth 2nd and 3rd ascending if I don't plan on bothering with another assassin until Shiki? I'm mostly worried about wasting the snake eyes.
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>>182419079
Gilgamesh is a faggot, go for the girl that wants you to use her until there isn't a single drop of her blood left.
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>>182418996
You're a liar but I'll still waste a ticket.
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>>182419079

Gilgamesh. Saber Alter has her own rate ups.
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>>182418921
me too
I wonder how many rolls it would take
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>>182418996
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>>182419026
Ok I'll pretend you're not shitposting for (You)s, post a source that backs up your claim, I'll wait.
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>>182418909
>Is this a meme? I know he's good, but...
see
>>182419004
If you have even one Waver, it no longer matters who else you have. You'll coast through the entire story, even up to where they currently are with budget servants. People often do videos of them fucking raid (hardest in game content) shit up with double waver and 4 different 1/2/3 stars. That's the point of Waver, no longer caring about your rolls. If you don't have Waver, you generally need 2-3 other 5 stars or 5 4 stars to make up for it in terms of the more difficult content. You'll probably get that, but it limits your creativity.
Having a Merlin and a Waver on your account gives you limitless creativity in team building.
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>>182418151
ROME!
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>>182419103
Yeah
>>182419136
Wanting to lock her lover in a cage isn't too extreme right?
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Sabers bond thingy appears to have stopped ?
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>>182419138

At least it's not the one guy like a dozen threads back who told his friend he didn't roll Waver when his friend did and was too dumb to realize that Waver is a nickname.
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>>182418703
Yeah, I'd heard he was a tank/support and after seeing his skills it's true. Which is great since I lack any of those aside from Waver and I got Lancelot + Herc so I could do some Berserker memes. I'm saving for Karna but I'll need a Lancer in the interim so Mr. Sparta will keep a nice spot here in the party for a while. Plus I gotta get them ascension arts.
>same artist that did Yan Qing
Well shit, this man draws some quality meat from thick to lean-
>and billy the kid
>and Irisviel

The fuck kind of wizardry is this?
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>>182418909
just use the character you like. honestly i got bored with my waver and now playing two accounts and am having more fun on my dick picks account.
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>>182419149
>for his tattoos
>implying they wouldn't just make him CGI
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>>182419234
anon look how much you need. Because you need a fuckton
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>>182419225
There's a lot worse.

>>182419234
No it's still going up, the progress after 5 is just abysmally slow because Level 6+ is when you get free stuff for each level. For 5* you get free quartz for each bond level past 5.
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How do people have such problems with rerolls are they not doing the second 10 roll? I was trying to get a Jeanne account today for an alternate, and I literally hit every 5* besides seiba in like 4 hours while watching speedruns.
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What do the green dailies drop today?
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>>182419234
6-10 take a LOT of points
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>>182419234
It just takes forever to get from 5 to 6,
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>>182419234
It takes a while to start
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All of you Jeannefags will soon understand when Nerofest allows us for Waver 3rd ascension.
>>182418934
Only the ones with already loves will, lucky for Janne Alter isn't one unlike the original.
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>>182418947
>absolutely horrible and universally hated
As much as I dislike DEEN/stay night now, it was alright for its time. It sold pretty well and was fairly well received when it first came out.
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>>182419302
They drop check the OP you fucking faggot, this isn't hard.
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>>182419138
I do like her. Not waifu-tier, but I'd rather have a squad of pretty girls slightly more than a top-tier lineup.

That said, should I grab Herc or Emiya from the freebie?
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>people are still rerolling
I mean at this point go for Gil and stop asking if your roll is any good.
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>>182419103
She thinks you're into that, so she taunts and teases you calling names.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGRAID_ogaQ
her FGO NP
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>>182419302
Berserker/Caster/Rider/Assassin Pieces and Monuments.
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>>182419325
Why would I get waver when I'm going to get Merlin and Jalter in less than 10 crystals each?
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>>182419234
From rank 1 to 5 you need a few thousand points to bond, rank 6+ takes a few hundred thousand. It's moving, you're just not seeing it
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>>182419376
I enjoy watching her attack animations.
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>>182419284

Correction: You get 3 (THREE) SQ per bond level for 5*, 2 per level for 4*, and 1 per level for 3*.
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when will we be able to farm for infinite gears?
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Free 10 quartz roll for story.
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>>182419367
you already got the cat. might as well take emiya
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Need more Alters
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>>182419026
That "source" was a misunderstanding where the press release said that they had game original servants and a chapter that takes place in America.

They have still got no intention of making server specific servants. they do intend to do server specific events as they've said that neither server will be beholden to the other's timetable.
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>>182419225
Your BB is more of a Bully than a Yandere because she wasn't fucked up by Kiara.
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>>182419026
The statement you're referencing was even refenced in the FGO OP at one point

They mentioned exclusive NA heroes the same time they mentioned licensing issues.

>>181595168
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>>182419367
Herc.
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>>182419325
For waver I should level up his 3rd skill first right?
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>>182418996
Rolling
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>>182419553
2nd or 3rd skill both are good, 3rd is good to level up quickly if you want do retarded damage.
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>>182418947
>absolutely horrible and universally hated

It had the best music you turbonerd. Also back in the day everyone liked it, plus it at least tried to keep the original VN's atmosphere instead of trying to turn it into zero lite, which wasn't bad or anything. But it was definitely not really "right"
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Girlgamesh when?
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Oh, does anyone want a Waver account?

Post email and a cute Waver!
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>>182419462
London is when they first appear as a free mission drop but the highest pre-Shinjuku rate is in America according to the spreadsheet.
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>>182419516
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>>182419656
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>>182419682
That side mouth always gets me going. Mmmhhhmm ohh yeah side mouth oh picasso mm
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>>182419283
>>182419284
>>182419312
>>182419313
>>182419318
>>182419431

Awesome thank you very much !

I'll try to be more observant next time

Was afraid it was locked behind a story quest for a minute
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>>182419528
Nope, it was from FGO NA team themselves.
>>182418732
I guess you think Neil Gaiman's case with Todd McFarlane never happened, huh? It's the same situation. When you make a joint collaboration with someone the product created from it can be claimed to be owned by both parties and thus need both parties agreement to be used and/or sole ownership must be outlined in a document somewhere clearly defining who owns what
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Can I make her scream ay bendito?
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>>182417164
Why do you require horseshoes just to get to 60.
It's not fair. It's not fair I say.
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>>182418326
>>182418252
he do a good job so he deserve it
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>>182419812
Horseshoes will be in Nerofest.
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>>182419784
Have a dragon dick or fuck her ass and Pussy at the same time
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>>182419774
>not having done the storyline
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>>182419516
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Why is mash so perfect ?
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>>182419784
DES
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>>182419670
Also, it has Atlante and Carmilla and a Kaleidoscope! Forgot to mention that.
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>>182419535
Oh yeah, forgot that there's legitimately two now.
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When is Manjew?
When was Manjew in Japan's release?
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>>182419103
She was more in CCC but your BB is a copy of CCC BB without the malware issues Kiara added to make her become a bit crazy and wild. Though at the end of the event, original BB and the new one merge, new one gets the old one data - she's Kiara-free. So she acts more like a bully who would call you mean names or take jibs to your self-esteem, but because she likes to "bully the people she likes" and was sure you were into that S-attitude. She's really arrogant too, but in a lovable way.

You're better not thinking she acts like Sakura Matou just because of her sprite model and the kouhai-appeal, because she's very different.
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>>182419780
>I guess you think blah blah blah blah blah
nobody cares, nigger
take your factoids back to high school debate club
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>>182419784
Jeanne is french, not a spic anon
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>>182419876
Because all she needs is water and sunlight.
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>>182419876
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but right now the only 5 star summons that can be fully ascended are Jeanne and Artoria/Saber, right?
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>>182419883
>>182419670
I'm interested. Go to #gunpla on rizon.
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>>182419903
There were two. Original BB was defeated and merged with new one, but her data is Kiara-free so is more like what if BB wasn't fucked up by Kiara in CCC personality from the start.
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>>182419951
what if i didnt reroll because i dont care about the current 5*
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>>182419780
>Nope, it was from FGO NA team themselves.

Except they doubled down on "we have no intention to do server specific servants" at AX

If they can't run an event they'll find another way to give NA the servants because they own likenesses even if not the whole series.
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>>182419916
No one actually knows
They never announced his addition. It was totally out of nowhere and we only found out when some people posted pictures of him online.
Normally that'd be enough to tell, but his insane rarity and the fact that no one tell did FP gacha anymore at that point makes it difficult to know for sure.
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>>182418419
CRUSH THE OPPRESSORS
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>>182419931
>A well known lawsuit is a factoid
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>>182419920
It astounds me to know that someone like her is just running around Chaldea
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I'm at my wits' end.

The best I can roll for after a couple weeks of no Waver are NP2 Tamacat + d'Eon + Redman. Should I move on and start playing, or try to reroll some more?
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>>182420050
Between Spartacus and Lu bu, who is better?
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>>182420013
That's tier 1 brainlet
Even Saibuh is better than no 5 star, since she's like a high tier 4 star.
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>>182417164
Someone convince me to not grail my NP 4 Ushiwakamaru, I really wanna do it.
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>all these reminders that CCC event won't happen for over a year in NA
Ah, suffering.
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>>182420130
What if I didn't know cheating as an option?
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>>182419484
>>182419260
Sounds good to me.
>>182419219
As tempting as that is to my gamer side, I think I'll go with my fan side. I mean, Waver is incredibly cool with the bonus of being top-tier, too. But Jeanne is another servant I wanted to get eventually and this seems like a good time to settle. I can only get log-in bonuses for a limited time, right? Plus this Gilgamesh event going on right now, too.
I just really want to actually start playing, too.
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>>182420154
Nah m8 CCC ain't happening, we're getting a collab with the Simpsons though according to anon
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>>182420154
Over two years
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Will she send me her location so we can focus on communicating?
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>>182420130
Using Waver or Merlin and any combination of the two automatically makes you a brainlet.
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>>182420045
But I need him, and am willing to sacrifice all the FP in the world to get him
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Why is Lancelot always gargling mouthwash when he attacks?
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>>182420154
Never know. They could do it if they decide to announce a translation and steam / switch English port or something

I imagine we'll get the Prisma event when the movie comes out in Japan, given it's in the credits
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>>182420196
Damn you're salty
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>>182420130
There is no need in SSR. You can compelete any content without them.
Also, for lvling(skills and lvls) SSR you need tonn of recources, it's more easier to grail some 1-4 stars.
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>>182420095
>Waver

It's good. Just grab Herk with your free voucher and you're good to go.
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>>182420194
The special log in bonuses are 10 days, so you have a week left to reroll and still get em.
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>>182420095
people are posting account all the time
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>>182420004
The instructions were not difficult to follow anon! Your email address and a cute picture of Waver were all that were needed for me to send it off.
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Does anyone have an archive or link to the Grand Order Panel from AX last week?
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>>182420125
Lu Bu
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I AM GOING TO IMPREGNATE MORDRED!
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>>182420203
Not really. 2 years at the absolute max since we're already 1.75 months ahead of the Japs at the same month.
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>>182420306
Mode Red is not for sexual.
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>>182420149
Do it faggot. Do you not love her? I will be grailing her to power beyond Gil.
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Lu bu or Spartacus?
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>>182420264
When can we use herk's secret noble phantasm?
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>>182420196
What's Homer's NP
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>>182420306
You can't impregnate males retard.
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>>182420306
Good lad. I need to impregnate my wife too.
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>>182420303
The panel that was actually interesting didn't get streamed. The one we got was just a scripted PR event, or they got delayed somewhere and ran out of time to do an open Q&A
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>>182420236
You can't because Prisma event uses characters that appear in America.
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>>182420286
My bad!
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>>182420261
>It's easier to grail
>Wasting a limited resource on 4 stars, let alone 3 stars unless they're your waifu
Don't be stupid
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>>182419876
She has the softest mashmellows
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>>182420261
There are bronzes that are harder to ascend than some silvers because the bronze requires a gold mat and the silver doesn't. So that's one weird thing you need to look out for.
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>>182420320
SHE WILL BECOME MY WIFE!
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>>182420267
Hmm. Well, I can at least keep this account with passwords, and then set up a script to roll Waver while I play with it, then?
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>>182420306
>>182420473
I don't think saber is ready for grandkids, anon
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>>182420418
So, you want to wasting limited recources on SSR because it's more efficient? Becaues it's SSR?
Shame on you, meta faggot. You really cancer of this game.
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>>182420378
That's why we'll get it once CCC is announced
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>someone makes a post last thread about the importance of spoilers and the fun of experiencing twists
>posts a huge fucking spoiler about the game's story without any tags

Gee thanks anon, I totally wanted to know that.
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>>182420506
Oh yes she is.
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Any reason to run two wavers
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>people thinking CCC is coming out in English on Steam
laughing_bitches.jpg
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>>182420506
>15 year old with grandchildren
I don't even
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Should I go for Ushi or Medusa as Rider?
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>>182419670
>>182420286
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When Christmas comes, I am going to adopt both them as my daughterus. Then, over time I'm going to teach train them into being the perfect waifus and eventually marry them both.
Hikaru Genji servant when?
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>>182420310
Because they'll space Babylonia and Last Singularity more. In JP, they ran it too close to each other. FGO JP suffered delays at launch.

Time Temple is scheduled for December 2018, you know, the date humanity ends. And CCC event took place months after it, the next year, it can't happen before because there's literal dates given in the game which happen for a good reason. Events like Accel Zero can happen sooner because they didn't have a specific date or relies on characters who have yet to appear, but CCC event has to take place on May 2019.
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>>182420585
100% NP + Buffs out of your ass? they do stack you know?
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How are people getting alter or nero in the game right now? They're not even in the gacha.
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>>182420585
Two waver dicks.
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>>182420261

Are you saying you can complete the hardest shit in JP with any 5*?
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>>182420635
>no email adress
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For the anon who plays JP how often do they give out free 4* tickets like the Master Recruitment event?
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>>182420664
Just run saber Gilles?
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So, what are you guys doing while your AP refills?
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>>182420673
In the Story Gatcha, finish Fuyuki for Alter and Septem for Nero.
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>>182420640
>the date humanity ends
I thought that was in 1999 and 2012.
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>>182420640
So what you're saying is
Less than 2 years like I said
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>>182420690
>implying I need someone else's waver account
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>>182420673
You can get Alter on your initial quartz roll and Nero was added to the gacha after you finished Septem.
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>>182420637
Not if i adopt them first
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>>182420689
I can complete hardest shit in JP without SSR servants.
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>>182420637
I'm going to FUCK your daughters anon and you can't stop me
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>>182420723
jerking off to a VN how about you anon?
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>>182420640
>Time Temple is scheduled for December 2018

Everyone keeps saying this, but all the website says is by 2019. That just means time temple happens in 2018, everyone just keeps assuming end of year for, reasons. Despite constantly being wrong about the schedule so far. (lmao we won't get gil for a whi- OH GOD HE'S OUT ALREADY)
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>>182420689
Doesn't sound hard to believe when people do it with Avenger
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>>182419951
>Enlightened mandala escaping a lotus brain
Realize you don't have autism and the game is simple so people stay around to collect waifus.
No rerolls required to open a wallet later when they arrive.
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>>182420776

Do you rely on luck or seals
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>ascensions stalled while I have to farm mats

Fuck
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>>182420723
AP grinding with refresh levels. So far I'm up to level 7.
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>>182420723
Trying to edit a few videos for my portfolio, but probably I'll never get a job.
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>>182420673
Alter comes in after you finish fuyuki
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>>182420408
Excellent! Enjoy, and it still has the choose a servant ticket.
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>>182420723
Shitposting here obviously.
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Almost all 5 five stars servants are boring or look like shit while sometimes being worse then 4 stars with horrible drop rates.
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>>182420757
Yes, but that date won't be moved because the months are even addressed in a journal in the story.

>>182420750
Are you playing FGO?
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>>182420869

She has a nice design stuck on a three star card
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>>182420869
Are those breasts?
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>>182420810
They said they'd have the story completed in 6 months. I don't have a source so everyone will probably be a fag now
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>>182420721
Ah yes Giles gives you flat damage and flat defense + %damage and %defense while also giving 20%NP to all the party and one unit getting an insane crit buff +30%NP
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>>182420728
By finish, do you mean Gil's interlude as well? I could've sworn I finished all the free quests as well.
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>>182420854
>I'll never get a job
dont give up anon I believe in you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxGRhd_iWuE
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>>182420050
Was the large mutant in the first episode spartacus?
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>>182420897
Aren't you glad? Now you won't get the urge to dump a week worth's salary into the gacha.
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>>182420506
Too bad, I want to make Mordred my wife.
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is waver the modern day Merlin
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>>182420869
>unlimitedsuccworks
lmao, thanks anon
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>>182420723
Working at a casino, grinding dailies in the bathroom when I do get enough AP. Using everyone's gambling problem to eventually help my future gacha problem
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>>182420832
>No SSR
>Luck
Don't bully ;_;
Actually i don't think i need seals or luck to complete it.
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>>182420898
I was replying to someone that said over 2 years
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>>182420723
studying for network+ and security+ certification exams
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fastest way to complete these missions?
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>>182421009
I work in a casino too, are you a dealer?
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>>182420939
>implying that Gilles isn't better than Saber Lilly and Weaber combined
>implying jeane isn't a better Weaber

Enjoy your fall off stats.
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>>182420723
I'm not sure what to do. I can keep leveling up if I do the exp dailies, but I need the mats from the 4 knights shit or whatever
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>>182420897
If you want 4* you get to suffer through the polluted pool of waste nobody wants.
The rate of getting the one 4* you want is soul-sucking as well.
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>>182420810
No? You're confusing a rate up campaign with the story which has an actual schedule. FGO JP was supposed to be released earlier too and got delays.

It's the same in JP website. Humanity does not see the year 2017 (which in our case is 2019), this means they were incinerated on the new year. There was a raid at the last weeks of December to advance the story and countdown was up New Year. We'll probably take more than nips because we're not millions of players.
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>>182420723
Having a drink watching my life waste away
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>>182421068
>Wyvern

Thiers, Orleans
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>>182421027
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>>182420948
Nvm. I'm dumb.
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>>182421068
Green dailies
The answer is always greener dailies
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>>182420937
I thought they said they'd have the story up to 1.5 done by the time part 2 finishes in Japan
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Gilgamesh Alter when?
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>>182420637

So I know that Jacks for Quick teams, but what team does Nursery Rhyme fit on?

Also, does anybody have that updated meme tierlist?
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>we're still in the mob clearing meta
>can only find a single person offering kaliedo STELLA as support

Well at least he's getting all my FP.
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>>182419951
Some people are really mad that you didn't reroll to become a gameplay fag.

And it means nothing in the end.
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>>182421197
Is STELLA even good without kaleido?
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So if you get 6 of the same 5* Servant, you can exchange it for a different one of your choosing? Do you have to keep all copies to do that?
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>>182420948
No, simply the story.
Free quests and interlewds not included.
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>>182421165
>Gilgamesh Alter is the humblest and friendliest guy ever
I don't know why, but I could work.
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Are we getting a Queen Guinevere?
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>>182421120
>this means they were incinerated on the new year.

Actually read the damn words you're using.

"humanity does not see 2019"

all that says is humanities death date < 2019 there is no specific information there, it's equally true that 1st of January 2018 and 31st December 2018 are before 2019 so if humanity died on either date it never sees 2019.
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>try and do daily
>tells me my inventory is full
Well more Prisms it is then
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>>182421120
The raid hp will be adjusted to active players
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>>182421004

Nowhere near as horny and doesn't shitpost as often on social media.
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>>182420568
Was it the Solomon thing or something else? This is just Shirou is EMIYA-tier because David looks like a green-haired Roman and appears next Order.
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>>182421295
Yes, but that's not quite right. You get a single spirit origin for every copy of a 5* you already have 5 of. You can then exchange 10 spirit origins for a single 5* of your choosing.
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>Gil
>60-70-80 crit
>increase crit dmg
>doesn't crit a single time
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>182421263
Do you have Merlin?
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>>182421305
>>182421165


>He respects all of his opponents, so he uses EA constantly, which causes it to lose power. Conversely, GoB is full of stronger weapons, because he only uses it as a Trump card cause he considers it disrespectful to his opponent

It practically writes itself.
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>>182420506
>implying she'd acknowledge her grand kid
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>>182421263
He can still fire off his NP on turn 1 with imaginary element and if you have a waver. Kaleido just makes him a meme.
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>>182421165
Much less laughter, a lot more dere and tenderness.
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>>182421197
STELLA requires too many materials to ascend and it doesn't really matter if you can kaleido a lance or retardcat instead.

>>182421305
They can't add him because he'd never be jobbed by anyone or anything.
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>>182421447
Oh, so it doesn't have to be the same servant every time if you have 2 or more different ones, then. And you don't need to keep the copies.
But still, that's a steep requirement. Better than nothing, I guess.
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>>182420810
I've believed from the start that we're going to get Gil and other content on an accelerated schedule and I still believe we're getting Time Temple in December. Anon is right, these dates are written into the story; they'll pad out the intervening time by doing reruns faster or something
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>>182421447
Wrong.
The 5 star needs to be at NP5 to start earning origins
Only the hugest whales can ever special summon
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>>182421460
>fgoalter
So, i need to roll Kaliedo if i want to have good STELLA? I thinking about grail him
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>>182421068
https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/6mb43e/na_weekly_master_missions/?st=j50m41s1&sh=a5105656
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>>182420723
Work, or play the other desire sensor game.
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>>182421530
>retardcat

???
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>>182421165
>>182421305
>>182421462
Gilgamesh Alter is literally an impossibility. When he got covered in the Grail's mud at the end of Zero he retained his sense of self because of his ego and his willingness to accept all of the world's evils and bear it all as the King.
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>>182421081
No just security. Wouldn't mind since with tips alone dealers and slot techs get loads of dosh
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>>182421578
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>>182421568
>linking people to reddit on 4chan
The madman actually did it!
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How can I recover an account if I accidentally logged out of it? I see the Japanese form for the jp version, but I can't seem to find the English site's form.
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>>182421549
It sure would be nice if they could literally open a text file and change a date.
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>STELLA
?
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>>182421616
Did you bind your account? Otherwise you're fucked.
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If I make a transfer code, but keep playing on my device and do the transfer say, a week from now...will the code make it go back to the state I got the code, or does it keep track of my progress and stay intact without needing an updated code?

Because the game runs better on my computer than it does on my mobile. Kind of want to keep playing on the former, then transfer to the latter later.
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>>182421578
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>>182421589
So dump two Grails on him
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>>182421589
Jeanne Alter is impossible too, and here we go. Alters don't necessarily mean corrupted by mud, they are also now: Speshful OCs wished by someone with a Grail or even more broken versions of themselves.
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>>182421171
Nursery Rhyme fits in well on Arts teams and is fairly popular with a team composed of Waver/Merlin and another Arts character (in JP I was running a Merlin/Nursery Rhyme/Vlad team). But she can also shine when you pair her with someone who can produce a lot of C. stars (like Jack), though you really need to get her something like Sealing Designation so she can eat up all the stars. Ultimately she's the kind of character who can be extremely strong, but only if you actually build a team around her, either giving her strong Arts teammates for Arts combos, or giving her teammates to get crits off.
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knight of owner
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>>182421158
Maybe that's six months? I don't know, but when they said they'd have the story done in 6 months I believe they meant for what was currently out in Japan at the moment they said it.

Anyone that thinks we won't get stuff sooner than they did when it's already done aren't too bright considering the development time was part of their timetable.
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>>182421589

Nigga, Jalter's existence shits all over your point. And then there's Jalter Lily, which is even more ridiculous. There's plenty of room for a "what if" Alter Gil.
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>>182421530
The point isn't that he's going to be great at everything, the point is that at level 30 he can nuke off >80% of the mobs in current available battles. This makes grinding much faster, and if you get 2 of them on a team with waver, you can finish dailies in 4 turns easily.
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>>182421616
[email protected]

same email as listed here under contact us
http://fate-go.us/

they'll ask you for a bunch of info so i hope you remember some stuff like dob, name, id, main team lineup (not support) and etc
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>>182421687
Still wouldn't work. Gilgamesh Alter wouldn't have access to Gate of Babylon nor Ea because he wouldn't be Gilgamesh, he'd be some construct created in the form of Gilgamesh. So what the fuck weapons is he going to use?
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>>182421659
I don't know what binding is. Do you mean did I ever use a code to get back in? If so, yes, once.
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>My main account has my primo servant selection and two 5*s
>jack fucking shit for Craft Essences, no 5*s and no Imaginary Element
>all of my backup reroll accounts are fucking drowning in CEs and I've pulled multiple 5* essences from tickets

I hate this feeling and I double hate that I wasted tickets after getting my other 5* servant in the hopes that I'd get better CE's. Ah well, gotta stay strong for my waifu. It'll probably be super satisfying to blow a stockpile of quartz and mathematically I should at least get some decent CEs.
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>>182417391
why?
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>>182421616
If you have your bind account number, just pop it in when you load up the game and you're good. If you didn't bind it, you're fucked. If you ever bought quartz then you can contact the company and they can find your account for you. Otherwise, having fun rerolling.
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>>182421706
LB Kaleido NP5 Knight of Owner
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>>182421775
The gates of hell
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>>182421770
What am I supposed to ask of them? As in, what should I put in the email subject line?
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>>182421068
Jula for beast, Theirs for riders + wyverns and 1 berserker, Gaul for rest.
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>>182421715
Man Astolfo design is really nice
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Alter Gil will never happen because Nasu thinks that Gil is the best most awesome strongest ever who only loses because plot demands it with him underestimating his opponents which makes sense because he is so awesome.
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>grinding mindlessly
>decide to level every servant I have up
...
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>>182421660
Transfer code is essentially a username and password for your entire account forever.

It expires once you use it and you have to issue yourself a new one after logging in.
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>>182421612
Got a problem with that, faggot?
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How can I trick a wild Mo into starting a family with me?
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>>182421775

What are you smoking? Gil has GoB because he "acquired all the worlds treasures", not because he has an ego. Also, EA? Enkidu?
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Who /redman/ here?
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>>182421843
You called?
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>>182421893
You should ascend all of them as well for the quartz. Also get all of their bond ratings to 10 for the apples and quartz.
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>>182421871
FGO account recovery
then they send you a form with shit to fill out
once you send the shit they take anywhere from 1day-2weeks to respond back
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Where to get XP cards?
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>>182421919
Your dad (female) will give you attention if you marry me.
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>>182417524
NP2 altera+Waver+Gil
581,642,885
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>>182421775
Why wouldn't they? Oh sweet summer child, it's a wish, they come with bullshit as a new creation of the hero on spot. Cu Alter is even stronger than regular Cu and he's also an OC Donut Steal.

Whether is their origin, they get recorded in the Throne as a new/another version of the Heroic Spirit. Basically what happened with the OC Alters.
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>>182421946
Is that you Kang?
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>>182421969
The ember gathering dailies give out loads of them
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>>182421871
Just "bee" yourself anon
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>>182421446
You know anon, just because everyone knows that Darth Vader is Luke's father doesn't change the fact that it's a great twist. Shirou being Archer was a great twist on many levels and it wasn't that obvious considering they look nothing alike until ufotable actually made Archer look like an older Shirou at the end.

I'm playing this for the fun character interactions and the cute girls anyway. I'll get over it.
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>>182421978
Ah, it's true too! Good one! Thank you anon.
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>>182421946
Someone give that man Dragon's Reverse Scales
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>>182422030
That it though? Nowhere to farm?
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>>182421898
Okay, sweet. Thanks, that simplifies things.
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It's not fucking going up at all
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>>182421946
[muffled gargling intensifies]
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>>182419161
Look at what your other 4* or 5* require in their ascensions. If none of them needs snake jewels, then go for it. Carmilla has S growth, so she'll get most of her stats from her 2nd and 3rd ascension. Also she'll be the best DD assassin for quite a while, in case you didn't know that.
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>>182422102
That is where you farm them
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>>182421903
>Redditor calling someone else a faggot
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>>182422102
The dailies are where you farm them.
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>>182421775
he doesn't need GoB if he's not archer
imitation Ea, imitation chains of heaven, and maybe an imitation GoB for one or two attack animations is all he'd need to be recognizably Gilgamesh
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>>182420723
I go to nutaku and get rekt by browser gacha games.
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>rolled a heracles
>wanted JETS

GAAAAAAAAAACCCCCHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAA
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What servant should i grail?
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Does anyone like the pillows?
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>>182422160
Oh shit, forgot I could rerun them, Im retarded I guess
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>>182421981
Says Application User not found.
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>>182422119

Anon, to give you an idea of just how many bond points it takes:

Going from Bond Level 1-5 takes ~25k bond points.

To go from JUST level 5-6, it takes 200k+ bond points.
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>>182422224
The band? Yeah
>>182422217
You grail your waifu
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>>182422217
Lily
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>>182421946
I wish I had a support like this to alleviate dailies.
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>>182422214
>Got the better berserker
>still complains
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>>182422053
It was ridiculously obviuous the moment Shirou copies his daggers anon.
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>>182422302
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>my last 4 runs of the quest only gave me Assassin materials
>need berserker materials
>I don't even have an assassin
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>>182422130
Zero looked really nice.
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>>182422302
yeah hes better when maxed out, until then lancelot is better
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>>182422360
My last 100 AP summed up.
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>>182422360
>I don't even have an assassin

lmao look at this shitter
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>>182422053
I'm sorry someone spoiled it for you. I just saw that. Geez. I get that, even if I thought the twist was obvious and I campaigned over the theory for months, the moment the revealed happened was so impactful that became one of my favorite scenes in Fate franchise. At least take conform to re-read what you've played with new eyes, looking for clues, etc. For example, something I completely missed, when we met for the first time, Roman mumbles something like "I didn't think we'll meet this way."
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>>182422217
Always grail your waifu. The point of them is that you can take lower rarity characters that might otherwise be not worth using and have them be useful thanks to increased level cap.
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>>182422053
Going into the VN I already knew Emiya's fate. It didn't make it any less great.
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>>182422230
maybe i fucked up there is a screenshot
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>>182422283
Maybe if you post your friend code, he'll add you
It's weird seeing pictures of myself
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>>182422381
So what you're saying is lancelot is better until you get to the part of the game that is actually hard?
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>>182421941
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>>182422461
There are some spoilers that are ultimately harmless but there are also a few that if I already knew them when I first started playing this game would've probably had so little impact on me that I would've dropped it long ago.
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>>182422532
871870164
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>>182422269
>>182422450
I need in future only 5 grails on my bro.
So, i have many grails to ascend other guys.
I was thinking about ascending D'eon, but it's autism. STELLA/Angra Mainyu for memes?
It's really bad when you don't have any feelings to most servants in game.
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Is there any point in getting retarded cat if I have no problem doing dailies? Besides dick pick of course.
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>>182422179
You know people on /vg/ bait you into shitposting so they can mass-report you, right? Don't take bait, newfag.
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>>182422537
>actually hard
It just requires you to actually level your skills and get tier 4 ascension, while having good compositions of characters.

Of course all that is invalidated once you use Merlin/Waver/Herc and trivialize the game.
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>>182422523
Sent.
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>>182422523
You got the 2 and 4 mixed up
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>>182422680
Max friends?
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>>182420568
Same, I can't take Roman seriously as a joke character anymore.
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>>182422367
Check out the new Heaven's Feel PV if you haven't, ufotable really outdid themselves there.
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HANJEBA SOKO MADE DA!
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>>182422680
AHAHAHAHA
Idiot
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>>182422793
Just cleaned out a couple unactive randoms, maybe wait 5 minutes or something.
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New potential classes?

Changer

>Abraham Van Helsing
Turns out he became a werewolf
>Vlad
'nuff said
>Valravn
The raven/wolf/knight thing from Danish mythology
>Kwatee
Native American God
>Leshy
Slavic shapeshifter
>Loki
Why not?
>Wendigo
Algonquian myth
>Lady White Snake
Snake that fell in love with a man from famous Chinese myth
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I think this game is trying to tell me something.
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>>182422810
That thing is still not out?
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>>182422879
Who do you oppress?
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>>182422834
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>>182422687
She does tend to make it faster and is an alright berserker in general.
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>>182422687
your dousing rod will point you in the right direction
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>>182422876
It's a new outfit to King Hassan?
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>>182422876
Doesn't the beast class already cover that kind of shit?
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>>182422879
Which one is Spartacus again?
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>>182422687
>Besides dick pick of course

That's what you're supposed to be doing.
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Caster has good taste in waifus
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>>182421305
When or where is it stated that Alters have a reversed personality?
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>>182422879
rebell against gatcha
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so where do i email for account recovery, shit crashed before i could rebind it and just gave an error when i tried to log in
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>>182423059
Who else can't wait until alternate uniforms now that they were confirmed in JP FGO?
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>>182422876
Stop posting.
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>>182423107
>Account Recovery
>On a game where you dont even put your email when making an account.

Sorry anon but RIP
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J U S T
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>>182418453
I used some on Lancelot and I'm saving the rest for when I get ascend mats for Tamamo, I got a lot of em during the campaign
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>>182423000

I'm Spartacus!
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>>182422053
There are other good twists, but shame that was ruined for you. There's almost always a ruler-master bonding in Fate. Usually genderbent it but this time didn't (even if he really looks pretty feminine).
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>>182422876
>Classes based on how they fight
>Changes to fight
I like it
>>182422984
Nope, Beast class refers to Biblical Beast. Devil/Demon/Satan/Son of Satan
>John saw it "rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy." (Revelation 13:1) It was like a leopard, with feet like the feet of a bear, and had a mouth like a lion.
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>>182423059
Caster is a good waifu
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>finally got an imaginary element
FUCK YES DOUBLE NP IN 3 TURN
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>>182423138
>EMIYA or Gil in casual clothing
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>>182423138
I want suit Seibah
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>>182423253
She has a nice room
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>>182423154
They do it in japanese, you just need account identifying info and shit

it's real easy, i just doubt i need to send it to the JP support email
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What do I use QP for?
What do I aim for in friend summoning? Save up like quartz?
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>>182422796
He wasn't one during Septem or most of Fuyuki, when he's more stressed and concerned.
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>>182423213
F U C K
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Jeanne's second skills is useless, would be better if it actually applied one debuff to enemy's NP and buff to party's NP strength
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>>182423409
>crying when you already got her to stage 3
fuck right off
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>>182423287
Soon.
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>>182422879
REVOLUCION
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>>182423409
today is literally rider, assassin and caster day

stop bitching
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>>182423426
Jeanne is useless when Merlin exists
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>>182423213
I feel your pain
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>>182423393
QP will be useful for leveling up skills. You need ~100 000 000 to max out a single servant, more for 5*.
Some event CEs are added to the free summon pool, so you probably want to save up to try to get them.
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>>182421595
One of my closest friends works security at a nice casino, honestly you guys seem to have it made for the most part. You're kinda above everyone except the highest tiers, don't even need to concern yourselves with the squabble. Wish it was closer, I'd have jumped on with him when they had openings.

I just bartend and set aside x amount each week until the pool reaches $80, then I stockpile the largest denomination of quartz
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>>182418151
He usually takes Robins place, assuming I'm distracted and my Jannu support falls I have Lancelot and Tamamo to bust everything
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>>182423393
there are a couple really useful budget servants in FP gacha. like Hans and F/SN Cu. other then that you could just save it for angra mainyu, who is nearly impossible to get without shittons of FP. just make sure to use the free roll every day.

As for QP, you need a ton of it for ascentions, leveling and especially skills. probably want to start saving now before it starts to be a problem.
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>>182423502
What do you think I've spent three AP bars doing today?
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>>182423331
The Saber memes drag Medea's character through the mud

There, I said it. I feel better.
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w h e n
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>>182423406
The guy fucks around a lot in the interludes though, my favorite part was when he invited Marie to Chaldea.
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when does endless levelup stop
im level 55
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>>182423624
He's too recent, he'd be underpowered as shit.
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>>182418063
>>182417995
>>182418154

nobody ever said nerofest shop had hearts in it

we said nerofest has the first event shop, and it's good, but nerofest shop is only like 10 things in it
the events afterwards get way better

hearts drop from demons, any demons
the daily has either a dragon or a demon at the end, that's your only place to get them right now because otherwise demons weren't in the game yet at this point
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It's better(cheaper) to buy ramen or to make noodle soup every time by yourself?
Don't spook please
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>>182423561
There's a free roll? It looks like it's costing me FP whether I want to 10roll or 1roll.
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>>182423646
Fuck off retard.
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>>182423656
>im level 55
I'm 84 and I have to wait for my AP to refill a few hours and then I can level up again.
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>>182423707
every day you get 1 free 10 roll. resets at midnight of whatever time the game uses i think.
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>>182423706
>not eating just bread and salads
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What's the best catalyst for Jeanne Alter once the time comes?
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>>182423707
you get one free 10fp roll per day
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>>182423759
5 for PST, I know cause it happens around my lunch break
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>>182423656
around level 70 or so. depends on how often you detour to run the 30AP
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>>182423707
1 free 10 roll every day, resets at 7 pm central
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>>182423657
>stop a army
>an army with guns
>an army with the most killy shit since magic
>get carpet bombed multiple times for EX luck
>stopping a entire fucking army
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>>182422440
>>182423239
It's alright anons, I was really just pointing out the irony in that guy's post. I'm having a gay old time with the game.

If the story actually turns out to be decent later like some people said, that's more than I expected from a cash-grab mobage.
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>>182423138
What must I give in return for this treasury?
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>>182423657
Okay, would bishie blonde Rider class Carolus Rex work?
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>>182423802
Your dismembered penis.
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>>182422796
Orleans is the order where he gets more comedic scenes because he probably trusted Jeanne because he assumed God was guiding her. The other orders have less and less comedic scenes with him, there are some, but is mostly him giving instructions, analyzing and doing leader stuff. He has an easy going personality because it helps to put people at ease and be less burdened. That's the most benevolent description, and probably part of it. The other one is that his smile and his laughter are 'hollow' like a "doll" according to Nursery Rhyme in London. A lot might be the lingering remnants of Solomon's persona who smiled even in the face of all tragedies he saw with his all-seeing eyes. Because he was asked to be kind and gentle by God and his people, he kept smiling. Solomon -small Nasu font - The king mechanism. Roman had a few years to humanize himself, but he was an empty machine no different from Shirou or Kotomine, even worse because Solomon had no freedom and only obeyed God's voice. A lot of his childish habits is because he's ten years old, you know how Irisviel was mature but childish at the same time, he's in a similar position.
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>>182423802
dragon dildos
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>>182423657
>Edison
>Tesla
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How OP would a Lancelot with Heavens Feel be?
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>>182423706
depends on your local prices, nigga, do the math yourself
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The first interlude with ROME is the best.
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>>182422876

Reminds me of an old Grail War quest on /tg/ where the Berserker was The Skinwalker. It started the war by killing its master and putting on the corpse so it could act without any restraint. Any body it possessed became it's "master," for the purposes of maintaining a world anchor, and while inside the corpse its mana usage went down to zero and it became totally undetectable while it slowly consumed the remains and the soul of its victim to stockpile energy for actual fights.

It also had a skill that gave it all kinds of powers any time it's name was spoken, so learning its true identity ACTUALLY MADE IT MORE DANGEROUS.

It was an awesome adversary.
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Jack wants in bed with you...cute!

We get her Christmas, right?
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>>182423865
Mats. Not even joking.
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>>182423843
>takes scope off
>shoots Russians as they come over crests

Waow. You buy into finnish propaganda too much m8.
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>>182423706
Just have some boiled water soup for meals. Maybe drink some water with it to help wash it down and fill you up. If you really want to splurge, ketchup and/or bread sandwiches are pretty good, too.
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>>182423935
Pretty strong, but useless right now since we're just farming hands, doors and shit dailies
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>>182423891
Oh no. Is it wrong to lewd him then?
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>>182423649
Yeah, depends of the interlude. He was the one who talked back to Gilgamesh while you cowered and stammered. All of those are truth. He's able to fuck around with Marie, but with Gilgamesh he isn't acting like a pushover.

Gilgamesh doesn't expect him to either. Clairvoyants recognize each other and all, as some weird distant peers. But he was marking his territory he was leading Chaldea and his chosen Master is worthy.
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>>182423985
Dressing Gil, Ushi, and Seibah up in clothes is what I will live for.
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>the crimson black keys
>the azure black keys
>the verdant black keys

stop it

STOP IT

YAMEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>182423409
>complaining about mats with easiest to ascend character ever
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>>182424072
you cannot complain until you've LB all 3
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>>182422920

Who keeps making these twisted little comics
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>two weeks of 4-6 FP 10-rolls a day
>Not a single Medea or Cu (FSN) has dropped
>Only a single Medusa

Kill. Me.
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>>182423906

Edison and Tesla are from the 19th Century. There are no Servants from the 20th Century. Humanity stopped making Heroic Spirits because they started to believe that anybody could do what "heroes," accomplished with the right training and technology at their disposal. Only technology is considered "heroic," by modern humans.
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>>182423973
Uh oh...
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>>182423987
Sorry
>stopping the best army in the fucking world at the time
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>>182423906
They reached their peak before the 1930s, which is the bare cutoff for "not useless"

>>182423843
I like fellating Finland as much as the next person but he'd be a STELLA meme at best.
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>>182424074
Jannufags are annoying as fuck in that regard.
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>>182424096
Is there a point in doing that other than being low cost alternatives to other, better CEs?
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>>182423759
>>182423805
>>182423841
Well, I just tried it for the first time and it ate 2000fp.
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Anybody got lewd mashus?
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>>182424047
No, you can tell to the police "he told me he was a man in his 30s!" Iri had a kid too.
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>>182424110
Then there's EMIYA and EMIYA(Assassin) and other bullshit
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>>182423624
>C
>C
>B

This guy wasn't even a fucking mage, how does a mundanely exceptional sniper have better stats than EMIYA? Throw some E's on that bitch.
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>>182424147
limit breaking CEs gets them to drop less often
thats why even the biggest whales have only 1 LB kaleido
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>>182424106
I maxed out Medusa's NP, Medea's is at 2, and Cu's (F/SN) is at 3, yet I've gotten shit on my rerolls until I settled for Arturia
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>>182424110
>There are no Servants from the 20th Century.
Does the 21st not count?
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>>182423657
>He's too recent, he'd be underpowered as shit.
You can summon heroes from the future, anon.

He's been a revered hero for 6,000 years when you remember that
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>>182423873
Yes, actually.
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>>182424106
Speaking of which, did DW ever tell the percentages for the FP gacha?
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>>182424187
No it doesn't.
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>>182424170

They're not true heroic spirits because they got the status from Alaya by pledging themselves to service, not by human worship.
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>>182423965
>killing its master
>able to participate in the grail war without an actual master
>but it assumed a master's form so it's fine
>doesn't need to spend energy to gain energy
>this was allowed
Sometimes /tg/ drops the ball pretty hard for the sake of memes
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>>182423973
>>182424126
Why doesn't he just use a command spell to make her never try to gut him?
>>
People who are new to the Fate community will never understand how special Tsukihime, Kara no Kyoukai and Fate/stay night was back in the day. It was the golden age of Type-Moon community, it was all love, no hate.
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>Stheno QQQ combo generates 30 stars
>Gil AQB combo generates 28
Huh? This doesn't seem right?
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>>182424302
shut the fuck up retard fate is garbage in comparison to Tsukihime
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>>182423987
>not liking Finland
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>>182424151
I got this.
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>>182424170
Counter Gaurdians are different.

>>182424110
I realize that's the in-universe explanation, but it doesn't sit right with me. People idolize others all the time.
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>>182424336
Did Gil overkilled the enemy?
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>>182424284

A servant who breaks the established rules through magic fuckery? Gee whillikers, never seen that before.
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>>182424148
it'll say it's free and won't let you do single rolls until you use it. if you don't have it you must've used it without noticing earlier when it reset.
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>>182423985
>Mashu swimsuit

muh fucking dick
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>>182424336
>He though Gil was bad
I will see you in London
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>>182424336
Gil has a very high hit count and stheno is just shit
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Where do I get Berserker mats? I don't want to wait until saturday
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>>182424130
>pre 1943 Russia
>best army

Are you serious?
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>>182424302
>it was all love, no hate.
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Fucking giants will become mats for my Tamamo and Lancelot
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>>182424153
I've made a huge mistake. This keeps fucking happening in games with me and cute dudes.
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>did 200 rolls so far from buying quartz and using all the free quartz they gave you
>no 5* or 4*
>all CEs

Why?

Why.
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>>182424130
And the army was currently dealing with this little thing called the great purge.
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>>182424231
They are not obligated to tell because it's free.
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>>182424130
Nazi Germany was better at the time
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>1% for 5 star servant
>4% for 5 star CE
>They are in the same gacha
this has to be illegal
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>>182424461
200 rolls isn't shit anon.
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>>182424441
>back when Rin was just a bitch and didn't please old men for memes
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>>182424302

Dunno why you fags think so. I started with prisma Illya and it was annoying as fuck to watch the old shit. Seeing Illya get tortured was retarded.
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>>182424397
if a generic skinwalker can break some of the most unbreakable rules of the HGW, there is literally no reason for any servant to have a master. Guys just got lost in DUDE THAT'S SO EPIC LET'S DO THIS SO WE CAN MAKE GREENTEXT STORIES ABOUT IT LATER delirium that /tg/ falls prey to so easily
>>
>>182424187
Wait
What
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>>182424110
>There are no Servants from the 20th Century. Humanity stopped making Heroic Spirits because they started to believe that anybody could do what "heroes," accomplished with the right training and technology at their disposal. Only technology is considered "heroic," by modern humans.

It's not like the bar for being a Heroic Spirit is that high considering we have an executioner doing his job, an assassin who's famous for a failed attemp at assassination and noblewomen who don't actually fight shit as heroic spirits
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>>182424441
well it's all love on one side
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>>182424397
There's bending the rules and then there's outright skullfucking them. /tg/ is particularly heinous about this when it comes to discussing how they would break a setting, since most of their bullshittery relies on Read As Written instead of Read As Intended. Simultaneously the stupidest and the most lawyery board.
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>>182424215
Counter Guardian.
>>
When/how/with what should I start leveling up Servants after starting?
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>rewatching UBW waiting for my AP to recharge
>"your father wasn't a mage, not because he wasn't good at magic, but because he put being a father ahead of creating a successor"
Fug, shed a tear there.
Wish we'd get a non edgelord Kiritsugu servant. Like maybe a Prisma Illya Kiritsugu pseudo servant with him in control or something.
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>>182424521
Does it matter?
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MAXIMUM JANNU SOON
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>>182423706
rice and beans you mongoloid
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>>182424187
Not sure if paranoia, bait or actual retard.
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>>182424590
He's now a servant in F/GO actually.
As in a proper Heroic Spirit.
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>>182424552
Pedo?
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Stop posting lewds, I can't focus on QP farming
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>>182424302
Fate/Zero and Urobuchi literally ruined it. The internet feels too young again, it's shit.
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>>182424620
You still need to grail her 5 times to reach max level
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>>182424613
I hope you croak.
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>>182424448
It's ok, just self insert in Da Vinci. Roman is cute as fuck and Solomon is just beautiful, not sexy in a Gil or EMIYA way, but beautiful.
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>>182424187
>>182424254
>>182424568
>>182424647
don't tell me you actually didnt LB your keys and sold them in rage or some retarded shit...
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>>182424521
Shh, no tears now, only dreams.
>>
>>182424302
lmao all i remember were powerlevel threads
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>>182424708
SHES SHIT IM NOT DOING THAT
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>>182424661
No, he's still a Counter Guardian. He can't be a Servant other way because absolutely nobody knows him.
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>>182424620

You and everyone else.
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>>182424723
>5* keys
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>>182424047
>>182424153
Kinda. There's lots of jokes about Marisbilly 'taking advantage' of him.

Where's a text-edited picture of an autistic Solomon when you need it?
>my fingers hurt and I can't grab anything with all these rings on
>why does Goetia keep asking me these weird questions?
>I wonder where my dad is
>>
>>182424661
>A hero
>when we know not of what he's dealt with as a Counter Guardian
No, he's not nameless bullshit from extra, or CC or whatever garbage they've come up with.
The nuclear meltdown was while human even, and that doesn't even fit with him getting hanged.

Fuck everything
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>>182424702
Fate/Extra ruined it. Prove me wrong.
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>>182424693
Here is my future wife's butt.
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>>182423973
>>182424126
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>>182424613
Move bitch.
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>>182424420
Why is Gil such a master of lewd?

I think it's the eyes.
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>>182424717
That's gay
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>>182424693
If you want lewds you don't have to be so roundabout, anon.

>>182424719
This is this and that is that.
>>
>>182424702
>>182424762
>stop liking what I don't like!
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>>182424110
Mata Hari is from the 20th century. Off the top of my head. Probably more.
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is COOOOOOOOOL a good mage

i have him np4
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>>182424769
>lewding your future wife on a Mongolian basket weaving forum in a burmese waifu simulator general
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>>182424284
>>182424565
>doesn't need to spend energy to gain energy
>this was allowed
...what? the entire idea behind a servant is that its energy basically comes from fucking nowhere
the amount of energy provided by the magus's od is miniscule, and could easily be replaced by energy from the planet's mana except that's not how the ritual works
however, if there is any servant for whom the ritual could be made to work that way, it would be the skinwalker, or possibly enkidu, as these are existences close to nature spirits
>>
>>182424520
>>182424438
They stopped the Nazi war machine and after that went toe to toe with America post nukes.
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>>182424719
I only burnt them after I LB'd all of them. Was wondering if I should LB the other 1* CEs now too.
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>>182424861
He's COOOOOL.
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>>182424861
>NP4 KUURU
That's rare as fuck, post pics
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>>182424850
And Mata Hari is Garbage. Finnish Sniper would be Billy the Kid tier at best.
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>>182424378

Nasu wanted to draw a distinction between what a "hero," is and somebody who is merely famous or who accomplished something amazing. As I've noted before, Nasu seems to have a very classicist views of literature, and in the old stories just doing something amazing isn't enough. Heroes can do the literally impossible.

Honestly, I don't think he's wrongheaded here either. If you went to Finnland and asked people on the street if they know who Simo Hiya is, I doubt most of them would. Humans don't really remember famous people anymore, they're footnotes or characters in the tapestry of historical events, not "heroes," in the way that we traditionally understand the term. Everyone remembers the invention of the Polio Vaccine, but only a handful of people remember the name of the man who invented it. We revere classes of people as "heroes," like soldiers and firefighters or people who risk their lives to help others during disasters, but we almost never remember any one name anymore. Because we honestly think that given the right circumstances, anybody can be "a hero," by the modern definition. That's not conducive to the creation of a heroic spirit.
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>>182424868
Yes? I am a pervert.
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Please keep your retarded newfags on this side or lynch them when they try to leave.
We don't need faggots like
>>182424362
>>182424102
>>182423942
>>182423641
>>182423557
We already have the jetfag and the gilkek, that's enough shitposting for one general
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>>182424448
He means you can lewd him all you want, Iri was as old as he and she was a mother. Besides, Solomon had a harem of 1000+ women, even if Roman was his second life, he surely remembers fucking them all to create modern magi.
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>>182424954
Lancelot is literally better than Herc
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>>182424575
whats happening to shiki?
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>>182424613
I will burn you
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>>182424612
I always kind of wonder what Kiritsugu would have been like if, after he killed his Dad, he just took his research and crest and moved on with his life.
I mean the world would have been fucked since Kirei probably would have won the war, but still.
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>>182424775
Lucifer, tell me what's up in hell these days.
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>>182424954
stay in your autism containment thread please
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>>182424883
>toe to toe America post Nukes
>Localized Skirmishes meaning anything other dick waving between two countries.
Also Finnish lost land.
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@182424954
kys
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>>182424775
AYYY
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>>182424954
>app is currently in maintenance
>"We don't need faggots like"
fuck off, your thread doesn't need to be alive right now
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>>182424787
Well, Da Vinci is gay. I mean, he likes dudes and fucked a number of them. As a man.
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COOOOOOL is caster giles right?
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>>182424954
Tell your faggots to stay there instead of coming here constantly to try and spoil the game for people and saying how much worse the english version is "because you know what's coming"
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>>182424873
>the entire idea behind a servant is that its energy basically comes from fucking nowhere
Zero was a mistake.
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>>182424775
>no Kaleido
Reroll
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>>182424950
Anon, that's my waifu's daughter you're lewding
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>>182424838
post more
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>>182425070
yes.

Saber Gilles is sadness
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>>182424883
Pre-1943 they stopped the Nazis by a combination of desperation and Russia's vast land size creating crippling logistical problems for the Wehrmacht. They've only got their shit together sometimes between Stalingrad and Kursk, way after their war with Finland.
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>>182424990
>implying the Einzberns couldn't have found some other magical mercenary who would have been less retarded and given Avalon back to Saber
clean sweep niguh
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>>182425070
yes, saber gillies is not kuuru
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>>182424937
why do you need pics
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>>182424947
Non Heroic Spirits can become Servants too: Phantoms. You'll see how this work later.
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>>182425106
more
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>>182425171
>>182424954
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>>182425192
Why does Kuro like horses so much?
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>My face when I don't get Jeanne Alter
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>>182425142
Avalon's whole subplot makes no sense and was handled awful. Buchi didn't understand what the fuck Nasu's implications were and just ended up making it arbitrary.
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>>182424939
I didn't intend to argue that she was good or bad; I was just saying that she's from the 20th century. You - or whoever made the post to which I replied - are wrong in saying "There are no Servants from the 20th Century".
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>>182425192
...is that a noose?
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>>182424850

Mati Hari was born and lived the majority of her life in the 19th Century. Granted, she did her most famous deed in the 20th and died there, but she's MOSTLY from the 19th if we're getting technical.
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>>182425130
>the Russia's land mass meme
No Russia had more foot soldiers than every other country combined.
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>>182424990
>since Kirei probably would have won the war
I don't think so. Without Kiritsugu to "motivate" him, Gilgamesh's pep talks may not have been enough to make him tryhard.
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>>182425164
Because NP4 caster Gillies is rare as hell even on JP
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>>182425253
Yes, she's helpless.
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>>182425105
Also my future wife.
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>>182425228
Shouldn't Gilles be viable for Berserker summon
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>>182425121
>>182425153
>>182425070
>>182424931
>>182424937
COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

2 story rolls got me np4 giles and nero. Just need salter and ill never roll story till tesla
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>>182425130
They stopped the Nazis by having too many men and too much industry.

The Nazi generals knew they had no chance in hell when they routed 3 million men, and there was a fresh 3 million ready to go immediately.

There's a quote I can't remember the source of but I recall reading and it's quite good I think. "The reason we lost in 45, is that we didn't lose in 39"
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>>182425192
>>182425294
Keep this semen demon away from me
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POST MUSIC THAT WOULD WORK AS

CATALYST

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTIIMJ9tUc8
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>>182425329
wat the fook
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>>182425283
?????????????? bait or retard

anyway, to the guy asking, gilles is shit
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Why does /fgoalter/ love nazis so much?
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>>182425384
>gilles is shit
>40% stun chance on all enemies for 5 turns
>shit

m8
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>>182417286
>implying I won't just reroll for her

Mobages are never gonna see a cent from my wallet.
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>>182425356
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owAVAtviUgI
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If 8 I will get my first 5* servant. If anything else I will make GIlles my main leader.
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>>182424565
>some of the most unbreakable rules of the HGW
Lol...no
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>>182425353
But then who will mana transfer with her?
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>>182425356
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q88koeaqrEg
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>>182425263
Technicalities don't always work like that in the Nasuverse. There's even specific bits about characters being 'one foot in the ___ age and one foot in the next'. The rules aren't particularly hard on most things.
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>>182424226
What the fuck does that even have to do with what he said?
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>>182425425
Reroll Hell is only until July 31 anon.
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>>182425356
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6VJQZxeWNY
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>>182425438
10 ROLL TIME
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>>182425421
it can stun only 1 time but it is unreliable

it is far worse than all of the single target stuns
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>>182425384
Caster Gilles is actually really rare because nobody ever rolls Story Gacha
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I need Jeanne Alter so bad FUCK
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>>182425049
But now in FGO he's 100% female now. Not trans, no sex change, no magical sex change. Summoned AS a woman.

Is it still gay?
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>Have gotten Marie as the "boss" in the past 9 runs I've done of the daily
>She has not dropped a single fucking monument
>I just need two more Rider monuments to ascend Jannu
Fuck you bitch. I'm glad you got the fucking guillotine you fucking stupid bourgeois whore fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you FUCK
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>>182425438
wew lads
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>>182425503
>it can stun only 1 time
im sad now

thought I had a np4 niche mage to put in caster slot
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>>182425142
>>182425234

Kiritsugu didn't give Avalon to Saber because he didn't trust Saber and she was almost totally irrelevant to his plan to win the Holy Grail War anyway. Iri staying alive and functional as long as possible was literally ten times more important than any battle Saber could possibly be involved with. Him lying to her, hiding things from her, planning things around his own actions instead of relying on her to accomplish his by handing the scabbard over to her and leaving winning the battles in her hands, these are all completely natural for his character.

Ya'll need to learn to read better.
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>>182425409
>why do edgelords love nazis.

To be fair they do capture the imagination quite well because they're fucking weird. Like they had ties to cults, pulled off a lot of thigns that should never have happened and were definitely the greater evil, and it's very rare in life for there to be such a clear "oh... okay you're definitely the bad guy even if everyone else sucks you're definitely worse"
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Should I get my jannu to level 90 today or should I grind for qp/prisms/levels?
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>>182425446
I really want to.
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>>182425329
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>>182424047
Very, though at least you weren't his wives who were fucking the autist
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>>182425459
I think his point was that a Grail War in the year 8000 could, in theory, have a ludicrously overpowered incarnation of Hayha due to theoretical embellishment of his legend.
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>>182425541
I need those Rider pieces really badly for Medusa.
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>>182425271
Nigga the Nazis didn't have infinite number of fuel and infinite number of trucks, Russia didn't have paved roads in every square kilometer either. In fact they couldn't even use their train cars since Russia had different rails and relied mostly on horses on transportation. You don't march across Russia in 1940 with the snap of a finger. Of course the local resistance didn't help but they didn't destroy major german armies until Stalingrad.

>>182425336
That's the "desperation" part. Nazi logistics fell apart in Russia. Men couldn't even get coats in winter 1941.
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>>182425085
>no dude the magical energy of a master like ryuunosuke is totally an important part of why a Servant can exist and use noble phantasms
Ok, shitposter
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>>182425637
That's not how it works
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>want crit memes
>all the good crit chars are 3* or below and have shit stats
>or a 4* cat ill never roll
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>>182425049
Source?

>>182425517
He's only cosplaying as a real lady, think of her and not the male trap
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>>182425576
>and were definitely the greater evil
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>>182425576
They shouldn't have the technology to make rocket science but they did and we have the internet to thank for that.
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>>182425650
I have over 10 of literally everything else. Yet fucking 3, FUCKING 3 Rider monuments. This is fucking bullshit
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Fuck /pol/.
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>>182425484
What do you mean?
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>>182425679
Just roll Lancelot
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>frontload a full 20 stack of 4* exp onto a servant, regular success
>use up a few 1* trash exps
>SUPER SUCCESS!
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>>182425517

He wasn't summoned as a woman, he chose to be summoned in the form of the most beautiful thing in the world, which happened to be Mona Lisa in his opinion.

Really, its more a sign of narcissism than anything.
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>>182425517
Yes, because all of his memories and thoughts were as a man. Difference is he's not even interested in men or women, and really was just so authentically obsessed with beauty that he felt there was no closer way to reach perfection than to become his own ideals made flesh.

DaVinci is portrayed as a sociopathic, terrible individual who deserves a worse fate than they're dealt in FGO. I wish it'd just been a bro like AC2 Leonardo, but nah, Nasuverse where everyone's a piece of shit.
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>>182424990
Counter Guardians would've taken care of the problem one way or another
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>>182425541
Dude calm down, have a cute Jeanne.
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>>182425712
The 42 Quartz you get?
That's only until July 31.
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>>182425569
Kiritsugu didn't give Avalon to Saber because of his retarded plan, which was completely in-character for him as a retard
Nice argument faggot
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>>182425767
I'm not clicking on your degenerate porn you dirty profligate
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>>182425725
>have lancelot
>cant create crit stars without his np
>his np only generates about a QQQ worth of crit stars
its not FAIR
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>>182425712
>>182425484
>not stocking up on non rolled accounts
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>>182425710

This conversation is more /hist/ than /pol/. Other than the Hitler Fedora guy.
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When should I start leveling a Servant? Is there a limit?
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>>182424612
Real nigga bitch tear hours.
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>>182425769
I can still just do the story really fast though, right?
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>>182425747
Well geniuses tend to be extremely peculiar, after all
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>>182425873
>story
>fast
wew lad
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Is rerolling still acceptable right now? I'm bored and will make an alt account for funsies at the moment but if I get better shit I might stick on it. If I lose out on too much i'm not gonna bother though.
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>>182425668
>hey there is like almost two decades of work that explain why and how master/servant relationships work and what the stipulation of a grail war is but fuck that let's just make something that kills everyone for fun and is impossible to stop
Ok, secondary shitposter. Ruler would have been summoned as soon as something like that existed gg
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2 - farm mats for D'eon
4 - farm mats for STELLA
6 - farm mats for Medea
8 - first reply will decide my grail servant(literally any i can get)
0 - 10 roll
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>>182425803

His retarded plan got him the final 2 without Saber doing anything but acting as a glorified distraction.
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>>182423965
Sounds awesome, I'd rather like to be in a tabletop HGW now.
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ANOTHER FUCKING RIDER PIECE
THANKS MARIE YOU STUPID CUNT
FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU
FUCK YOU
FUCKING GIVE ME THE FUCKING MONUMENTS
FUCK OFF YOU STUPID HEADLESS FRENCH CUNT YOU SUCKED IN ORLEANS YOU DUMB FUCKING BITCH

I will unironically roll all of my quartz and tickets if YOU JUST GIVE ME THE FUCKING MONUMENTS
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>>182425810
Click the Image first anon before you say it's porn.
>>182425828
By the time Jeanne Alter is released, you will miss alot of Mats and Events which means you have experience hell yet again.
>>182425873
With just the ones you got from the Tutorial Roll? Yeah okay.
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>>182425747
>Difference is he's not even interested in men or women,
You can't be that stupi

>I wish it'd just been a bro like AC2 Leonardo, but nah, Nasuverse where everyone's a piece of shit.
ok yes you are.
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>>182425660
Russia didn't hit full desperation mode though. That would have been if moscow fell and industry had to full move back to the Urals (which they were totally ready to do)

If anything as time went on they got less desperate as the early months were the point where things were at their worst. The Nazis honestly did the absolute best it was possible to do with Russia. If they delayed their attack even by a couple of months they'd have been bogged down in Russian marshland which is even worse than winter, and the red army would have been in significantly better shape.

>>182425690
u wiggily wot
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>>182425978
I definitely felt what you're feeling, except it was for Liz.
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>>182425816
>he doesn't know how to critselot
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>>182425835
Exp is pretty trivial to farm, so level whomever you like. What you want to be a little more careful with are skill and Ascension mats since those tend to take more work to farm.
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>>182426023
Fucking this. I ascended Medea as she was my only Caster at the time, then on a whim rolled a single roll and got fucking Waver and now I can't ascend him. Beware Ascensions, kids.
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>>182425880
There's peculiar and there's just flat out skin crawling.

It's infuriating in the case of Leonardo due to the perception of him being a genius philanthropist eventually overtook his relatively amoralist take on the sciences. They sort of took that to a weird place and botched what should've been a great character. Then again, everything from Apocrypha is fuckin' weird in FGO.
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>>182425913
I'm still doing lite re-rolling on the off chance of getting a goldie + waver account.

I've gotten a good few goldie accounts out of it.
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>>182425736
>which happened to be Mona Lisa in his opinion.

And IS female. NOt a herm, not magically changed. Summoned as a female.
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>>182426018
Explain oh mighty one
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>>182425671
It is indeed how it works. He would not be 100% his legend but, if the stories, by that point, had exaggerated his powers to unprecedented heights, the legend would significantly augment the Servant summoned. This is why Mozart can murder the shit out of you as a Servant, but is little more than a highly celebrated musician in life.
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>>182425757
At what cost, though?
Someone has already pointed out that without Kiritsugu around, Kirei may not have been fired up enough to catch Gil's interest. Tohsaka might have avoided untimely deat and coasted to victory on Gil's bored coattails, at which point you have a member of the Founding Families trying to manage the Grail ritual for its inteneed purpose when the #1 rule of any attempt to reach the Root is "hide from the Counter Force". The situation with Angra Mainyu could have escalated quite some way before it caught CG attention.
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Migrate whenever:
>>182426102

If you haven't done the First Order quest for some reason, do it now because it's ending tomorrow.
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>>182426127
No it isn't, Servants don't gradually get more stuff as time passes
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>>182425931
sumanai
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>>182426127
If this is so then why is Solomon more powerful than David?
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>>182426173
I've tried.
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>>182426168
>page 3
What the fuck?
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So how much are you going to save for her?
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>>182424287
Command spells aren't absolute, they are really strong suggestions that get weaker the less specific and more broad you are.

There's going to be TONS of chances for her to get in bed with you so the urge to not get in bed is weaker due to it being spread over all those.

Where as demanding a single action for a single instance works 99% of the time on 99% of servants.
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>>182426260
I'm not.
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>>182426127
The thing about Mozart is there are no tales or legends about him shooting beams out of his eyes and exploding things like Tim out of Monty Python

There was no parable about William Shakespeare watching people do a play and reducing a rogue Cherokee warrior to ash as he rushed the stage

There's just no explanation for this bullshit
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>>182426023
>>182426083
Got it. I just hope my Master levels fast and I can get more cost wiggle room. Wanna use my 5-star.
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>>182426260
1 summon ticket.
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>>182426260
4800 Yen plus shipping
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If King Solomon was just an empty God loving autist, then how did the whole idolatry episode work?
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>>182426240
Countermeasure against other anons that make new threads before page 10 and they don't really care about updating the OP.
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>>182425913
You'll miss out on the AX promotion and the first Treasures of Gilgamesh promotion. That said you can still get the 4* ticket until the 13th.

Ideally you wanted to have started before July 6th.
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>>182426168
>making a new thread this early
For what purpose?
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>>182426260
She's not in my priorities.
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>>182426127

I'm afraid your mistaken. The Throne of Heroes is already outside of time. Everyone who can be in it is already in it. The 20th Century is the cutoff point where Humans stopped making heroes. Going further into the future doesn't matter at that point.

Although I suppose one could claim that Hiya made a deal with The World and became a Counter Guardian to get the power to stop the Nazis? On the other hand I don't think that makes a ton of sense, when Shirou did that he gained the power to accomplish a literally impossible feat. Saber's proposed deal that caused her to start being summoned to Grail Wars before her death was similar since it allowed for the impossible feat of Time Travel.

I suppose it could be a matter of Simo PERCEIVING the feat to be impossible and Alaya exploited that belief to give him the power to do something in reality he could have done himself with mundane means? That'd be pretty tragic and neat.
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>>182426171
You do understand the relationship between the passage of time and the spread of a legend, right?

>>182426229
don't
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>>182426260
All my Quartz If I cant get her Im going to hang myself or buy a account with her in it
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>>182426308

Caster class Servants who were things like authors and musicians in real life were mages who enhanced their art through magic. Mozart states this outright in Orleans, and its noted that Shakespeare was a magus in background materials for Apocrypha.
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>>182426018
fuck off retard
>hurr dur i used lancelots np
>hurr durr i used lancelots increased star gathering
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>>182426096
Stack crit star generation buffs seems the obvious answer, including CEs

Also I don't how star gathering works but hopefully you can't eat more than 100% for a single card, that'd be real stupid if they had it set up like that...so they probably don't from what I've seen.
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>>182426260
Maybe I'll throw in a ticket or two just in case, but she's not really a priority.
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>>182426570
Calm down autismo
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>>182426451
I'm not arguing about the fucking Throne. I'm arguing about the powers granted by the Throne. If Hercules died, then was instantly summoned, he would not have the powers of his legacy across time. Because they're not at that point in time. They're at a point where those legends did not yet exist, so the power of the legends cannot exist.

Did none of you read FSN? Even the fucking location in the world where the Servant is summoned is relevant to the power that they possess in/at a specific summoning. This is basic stuff. The 'current' world's perception of HS impacts the summoning to an extent.
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>>182426260
Saving for less used goods.
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>>182426451
Why are we still having this argument in the post-Grand Order age? Obviously if Simo Hayha ever shows up it will be as a demiservant who was recorded into the Throne as such, which bypasses most of the 20th century heroism arguments
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>>182426527
I must've flown by that part of Orleans, because I never caught any of that. It still doesn't make a lot of sense, because heroic spirits are more or less incarnated not as they were, but as people perceived them to be outside of specific circumstances. Or at least, that's how a lot of stupid shit is handwaved in FGO.

>This person didn't exist, but people believed they did and had such a unanimous vision of them that it became a servant

I mean, Santa Claus could probably be a 3* ffs
>>
So how many heroes does NA have besides Thomas Edison?
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>>182426723
That jewel on her chin looks like hair at low res (in-game).
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>>182426815
Geronimo and Billy the kid
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>>182426260
1 10roll if I feel like it at the time
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>>182426706
>Did none of you read FSN?
There's a reason so many old fans get triggered by secondaries with this shit: it makes actual discussion borderline impossible where once it could be a round table discussion.

You either spoonfeed them all of the information and they never have to look any of it up themselves, but are proven right, or you ignore them completely and they become obnoxious.
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>>182426706

You're wrong about the legacy across time thing. The amount of time that a legend accumulated power in the throne is not subjective from within history, its objective from outside history as observed by the throne. This is also why Simo Hiya can't be a normal Heroic Spirit no matter how much time passes. When time is observed from outside its flow by the throne, it is observable that Heroic Spirits stopped being made at the point of history that we subjectively refer to as the 20th Century. That's why I suggested the idea that he could be a Counter Guardian.

The location of the world does affect the hero's summoning, but the time of the summoning doesn't. The power their legend accumulated from the moment they became a Heroic Spirit to the time they stopped gaining power due to (presumably) human extinction or their legend being forgotten is absolute.
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>>182426815
Tesla (technically). That one wolf thing and its headless master. Sigma.
That's all I got.
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>>182426171
Fate outright says they do multiple times for various heroes.

There are various types of herioc spirits, some are basically just copy and pasted from a moment in their lives.

Some are essentially the story/mostly the story itself come to life and were never actually a person but became one due to the stories.
>>182426451
I don't recall the 20th century thing, but I could see it. I recall Nasu saying something about not liking guns and recent WW1/2 people being too recent I think a person from the relatively modern era could be summoned with their future fable/story self that's been created in some centuries due to something/something/something etc. There's lots of different potential futures and whatnot.
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>>182427008
20th century thing was bullshit anyhow, the heroes of wars weren't "technology", it was the men who fought and invented.

If Mozart can be a heroic spirit, Einstein could be a 5* with a nuclear missile volley as his NP.
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I wish there were more support-related CEs and not just some bond ones and turn-limited or death-limited ones.
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>>182426791

I mean, St. Nicholas of Myra The Wondermaker was a real person. If there was a line between him as a Servant and Santa Claus as a Servant, I imagine it'd be similar to Liz vs Carmilla.
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>>182427114
I think they prefer heroes that "was actually this hidden from history all along" and that would be much harder to believe in WW1/2. They do outlandish stuff but those are in part/or completely joke heroes.
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Where to get saber monuments?
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>>182427206
Yesterday's daily
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>>182426936
That is life, I suppose. We always end up making way for the new, after enjoying our harmonious world for a little while.
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>>182427206
Saturday
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>>182427191
>They do outlandish stuff
I mean some do have outlandish stuff, but those are mostly Joke heroes like Rider Mordred
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>grinding my penis off
>forgot all about symphogear
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>>182427191
True, but it's reached a point where it would be so much more interesting to play it straight and deal with a modern "heroic spirit", because the point of real life humanity is that heroes and single men still rise up above others. Nasu's cynicism needs to be reigned in by other people, because we have myths and legends of leaders from not even a century ago by this point.
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>>182427332
Same thing, amiright??
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>>182427114

You're not looking at this from a classical literary perspective, you're looking at it from a modern viewpoint. "Heroes," like Hercules and King Arthur didn't become heroes because they fought great battles, they did it because they did something so amazing (or horrible) that it was "a miracle." Heroes are people who do things that it is literally impossible for a normal man to do.

This is where the 20th Century rule comes from: not a dislike of guns, but from the perception that modern people don't believe that humans can do impossible things anymore. We call people "heroes," for doing difficult things, or selfless things, or brave things, but things deep down we believe that we would be capable of doing with the same training, equipment and circumstances. Those in the old world reserved the term for much greater acts.
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Who would win in a one on one, Heracles or Lancelot?
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New thread?
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>>182427473
Which Heracles and which Lancelot?
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New >>182427536
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>>182427474
>>182426168
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>>182417286
Jeanne D'Arc was a mistake.
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>>182427449

>from not even a century ago

And he accounted for that when he made the cutoff point 1899. I don't see why everyone is so desperate for heroes from 1900 forward. Is all of human history minus 115 years just not enough?
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>>182427457
Yes. That was really funny anon.
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>>182427560
Check the catalog before making a new thread next time.
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>>182427472
Back during FSN this was all true, and dealt utmost respect. However, heroic spirits and their manifestations have become a noospheric melting pot where even something that is a meme can be given life.

Even Zero gave more respect than this, but still had what amounted to real leaders and real figures of history who more or less were exceptionally successful at their ambitions. Or did terrible things, like Gilles, but was still very much a real person.
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>>182426791
>>This person didn't exist, but people believed they did and had such a unanimous vision of them that it became a servant

Kojiro
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>>182427610
and I dispute the arbitrary nature of the cutoff point, because his own explanation has been ran through the wringer by people he has given narrative rights to. If he himself has no regard for his statements, what's left of the magic but the boring truth that someone is simply too scared to touch on closer times?
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>>182427705
Part of the rules-stretching is for the sake of gameplay and diversity of the cast. It's a necessary evil.
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>>182427705

>However, heroic spirits and their manifestations have become a noospheric melting pot where even something that is a meme can be given life.

I don't really agree with this. Outside of event gag servants like the swimsuit variants of Santa Alter Jeanne or whatever, I don't think any Servant from Grand Order or the Extra series, even the ones from more recent history like Nightengale, really cross the line of not depicting a "hero," in the sense of somebody who accomplished truly superhuman things in their life, at least by the reckoning of the time.

I'd be happy to hear any Servants you disagree about though.
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>>182427832

>his own explanation has been ran through the wringer by people he has given narrative rights to

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the closest thing to a "violation," of the no-20th-or-later rule that's been done by other authors is Extra Emiya, and he's acting as a representative for all Anonymous Soldiers, which is certainly a concept born earlier than the 20th Century.
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>>182427949
>considered superhuman for their time
This is the flaw of the statement. As long as humans believe feats can be impossible, unlikely, or miraculous, there will always be heroes. These beliefs have never ceased to be a part of human nature, technology has not removed the "soul" of humans as soon as the clock struck 12 at midnight.

It calls to a very cynical, or at best narrow, understanding of modern humans. Being from Japan, I suppose he wanted to call attention to that being an increasingly more accepted outlook over there, and F/SN may even have been his own way to instill some of that magic and wonder back into his own culture.

the 1889 cutoff is still complete bullshit and he's scared of politics
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>>182427472
>>182427887
>modern people don't believe that humans can do impossible things anymore. We call people "heroes," for doing difficult things, or selfless things, or brave things, but things deep down we believe that we would be capable of doing with the same training, equipment and circumstances
The way people talk about geniuses and poltiical leaders shows that it's definitely not the case that humans no longer believe in impossible feats that stand head and shoulders above the rest of humanity. If anything, I'd say that the major problem with modern heroes is that there's no proper class container that represents the actual impossible things they did, which are largely bureaucratic in nature. What is Einstein? What is Hitler? What is Mao? They can be shoehorned in as Riders or Casters insofar as anyone can, but neither of those effectively represent the deeds that people treat them as Heroes for. Look at how badly Caesar fared when he was summoned in a class container that didn't correctly fit him; modern heroes would probably be downgraded to the point of being completely invalid.
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>>182418023
For Kiyohime you'll want to wait for her Lancer version and Merlin, she's the best Buster-based Lancer in the game (she got her ME passive, a self Buster buff, her Buster generates a ton of NP if you start the combo with an Arts making her ABB generate more NP than her AQQ combo) and Merlin only makes her even more broken.
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>>182428247
Long story short, can't make cute girls out of people there are color photographs of.

Of course, you could just do what they did with Musashi and say "It's not the real Musashi, just one from a different reality", because even they knew someone's head would get piked if they genderbent Miyamoto Musashi in a historyfag game
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>>182428216

It seems kind of cynical in turn to claim that he just made up a bullshit excuse to avoid the political firestorm of Servant Hitler rather than having a legitimate belief in the worldbuilding he crafted.
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>>182428595
Hey, for all my modern Hitler needs, I turn to Persona where he has a Great Old One and the Spear of Longinus at his disposal, not to mention a bitchin' pair of sunglasses and trenchcoat.
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>>182428247

Its also worth keeping in mind that Nasu's description of humanity in the setting may not necessarily reflect his actual feelings about humanity in the real world. His setting is a self-contained fantasy and the nature of humanity is core to the nature of magic and larger cosmic metaphysics as he imagined them. We can't ever really know where Watson ends and Doyle begins, and making too many assumptions about it is kind of dangerous.
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>>182428595
Considering it only takes a few focused statements from a lazy idiot on an anonymous board to begin deconstructing his reasoning, cynicism wouldn't be the right word. Besides, I think I've made it pretty obvious that my overall outlook on human nature is positive, and the crux of my arguing at all is the inherently poor excuse given for what should have been a very important fact. Even making something like "A cataclysmic flaw in the throne's reasoning ruined the chance for future heroes to be summoned", but that would make EMIYA a plot hole. He chose to instead use it as a statement on his personal outlook on modern humanity, as he often does with his favorite character, Gilgamesh.
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>>182428947
Stop incorrectly using the word "deconstruction" as well as any conjugations of it. You do not know what it means. Learn what it means. Then, you may be allowed permission to use the word.
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>>182429093
>analyze (a text or a linguistic or conceptual system) by deconstruction, typically in order to expose its hidden internal assumptions and contradictions and subvert its apparent significance or unity.

There is no need to be upset. We were having a nice talk, I thought.
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>>182428947

I really haven't see any "deconstruction," of Nasu's setting in the things you're saying. You're arguing axioms vs axioms, and you don't provide any more or less evidence for those axioms than Nasu does.

Honestly at the end of the day I think Nasu just doesn't really care about recent history and is much more interested in old times and old books. Equating that political cowardice is a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE leap.
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>>182429304
>just doesn't really care about recent history and is much more interested in old times and old books
And really, who would fault him for that ?
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>>182429284
I wasn't talking to you. I am here to prevent abuse of a word. You do not know what deconstruction is. As foolish a proposal as it sounds, the Oxford definition is not the correct definition. There are tens of thousands of pages and hundreds of books written with the express purpose of simply working on meeting the definition of the word. It cannot be summarized or understood by reading a single line of text. Do not use it; you do not know what it means.
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>>182429304
My words have been pretty blatant on the topic, actually. You're getting upset over this, however, and I'm not actually interested in shitposting people, so I guess this is where I stop. Was fun while it lasted.
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>>182429476
Derrida pls go and stay go, your legacy is to be an ephemeral joke because you refused to substantiate your claims and leave phantoms like this to wave a flag that has no shape.
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>>182429497

I really wish people wouldn't claim that somebody is "upset," as a way of declaring victory and exiting a debate. Also I didn't say you were off topic, just that claiming your statements were rattling the foundations of Nasu's universe was an overreach and that all I was seeing was you countering his Basic Rule Of The Universe with your opinion that the Basic Rule Of The Universe is in reality the opposite with neither side offering much to support that view.

But I guess you're gone so whatever. On to the new thread.
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>>182429589
There is nothing to substantiate because there is nothing to prove. Do you prove the system of addition? Where does the split between empirical logic and true logic in such a proof fade? A system which exists cannot be "substantiated", because it exists. It can be spoken therefore it is spoken.
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>when someone uses the term deconstruction to cause others to spontaneously deconstruct
>I only pretended to pretend, when in fact I did
So this is where pretending to be retarded came from
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>>182429906
What? Are you an ESL?
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>>182417391
I only have 15 quartz tho
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>>182417935
>half a nipple
MOOOOOOOOOOODS
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>>182431917
well the good news is I just good another monument
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