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YGO General #2547
Best Girl II Edition
Last Thread >>182240613

● YGOPro is an automated simulator.
>YGOPro (Windows): http://www.mediafire.com/file/nlcz47swc8bl4af/ygopro-1.033.D-Percy.exe
>YGOPro (Mac): http://www.mediafire.com/file/6vvclua195urlb9/ygopro-1.033.D-Percy.dmg
>High Quality YGOPro Images: https://mega.nz/#F!3xRSSZLD!n5HAXjFTVV8g-ha3I_5SsA
>Manual Card Updates (place inside the expansions folder): https://github.com/Ygoproco/Live2017
● Duelingbook is a manual simulator
https://www.duelingbook.com/

Useful Links:
>Current Official Rulebook: http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/rulebook/EN_SDSE_Rulebook.pdf
>Wiki with a wealth of information for the players: http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
>Official /dng/ ruling test: https://testmoz.com/466984
>Hypergeometric Probability Calculator: http://yugioh.party/
>Yu-Gi-Oh! stock market: http://yugiohprices.com/

>OCG decklists:
http://blog.livedoor.jp/yugioh_tpr/
https://ocg.xpg.jp/v/deck/event.html
>TCG decklists:
http://yugiohtopdecks.com/decklists

>TCG/OCG news sites:
https://ygorganization.com/
http://blog.livedoor.jp/maxut/

Upcoming Sets:
●OCG: Circuit Break (July 8th)
●OCG: Deck Build Pack: Spirit Warriors (August 11st)
●OCG: Extra Pack 2017 (September 9th)
●OCG: Structure Deck R: Surge of Divine Radiance (September 23rd)
●OCG: Extreme Force (October 14th)

●TCG: Pendulum Evolution (June 23rd)
●TCG: Battles of Legend: Light's Revenge (July 7th)
●TCG: Starter Deck: Link Strike (July 21st)
●TCG: Code of Duelist (August 4th)
●TCG: 2017 Mega-Tins (August 25th)
●TCG: Legendary Duelists (September 8th)
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secret anti zoo tech
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>Unfortunately, the conversation was relayed to me by the person who had it, and I wasn't there to witness it. This is what I picked up: Konami thinks both True Dracos and Pendulums are better in this format than the playerbase does, and that the YouTube community is responsible for the idea that Zoodiacs were a tier zero deck.

>What I couldn't infer from the conversation was whether or not said employee would consider a TD/Pend deck with even a small Zoo engine as a Zoo deck, or a TD/Pend deck. I'm assuming he would not consider it a Zoo deck, and what he meant by Zoos was a pure Zoodiac deck.
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>First Movement - Solo
>No Second or Third Movement
Melodious never even finished the damn song
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>>182359545
>secret
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>>182359640
Konami "Helps kill the hype for Pend Magicians by turning it into a shitty pack and then passes the blame to the youtubers" of America
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>>182359798
the better question is why the fug clear wing is a gril
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>>182359798
Honestly, I like that it got turned into a pack. Got all the Magician shit I needed for like $15. 3 of every Magician, 2 White Wing, 3 Astrograph, 2 of each Pendulumgraph, and 3 Timestar.
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>>182360096
Token female. More importantly, why is she shitting the bed by being wind?
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Apparently at WCQ Chicago, they ran out of Turbo Packs immediately and instead forced players to take Battle Packs.
Neat.
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Why are the official tournaments so poorly moderated and poorly covered?

People are going good money to go to these things and the least they could do is provide them with quality service to ensure fair play as well as high quality streams.
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>>182360171
The Zefra reprints were also sweet.
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>>182360957
A combination of apathy and tradition.
The only reason we're even getting streams is because of the whole esports fad started by video games. Considering they're only getting like 500 viewers even during the finals, the streams are probably operated at a loss if they compensate the casters even a little bit.
Events are supposed to be you showing up, paying your entry fee, dueling, then going home. Anything else is Konami just saying "well, we tried" so they don't look bad and can pretend they actually care.
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>>182362041
need to start hosting unofficial tournaments with cash prizes
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Xth for me and my wife!
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>>182362242
Card games aren't popular enough for that. ARG tries and it's mostly a flop even without the drama, although prizes aren't cash.

If official streams during the finals of the biggest events can't even pull in four-digit viewers, why would some shitty private tournament manage it?
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>>182359545
n o r m a l
s u m m o n
h o r s e

g o o d?
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>>182362786
Funny.
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>>182362786
>again with this facebook meme

The TCG exclusives are going to be garbage like they did with SPYRAL so why even bother?
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>>182362786
This is fake right? Or do we seriously not even get to see what we're voting on this time?
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>>182362818
why cant they just release a DN clone that we can stream from and host events on? its not like DN players aren't the biggest card customers
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>>182362786
So what the fuck am I supposed to be voting for, blurry tinted card arts? Wasn't the SPYRAL art showcase bad enough
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>>182362818
IMO it's because everyone is in a fuck konami mood.
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>>182363116
Because the concept of a consumer-friendly official client that operates at a loss to generate revenue from attendance goes counter to what shareholders want and the precedent that games like Hearthstone have set.
Combine that with how much money Duel Links is making, and the fact that there's a Duel Links event at Worlds this year, and you'll never get what you're asking for.
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>>182363356
So when is it going to get bad enough that Konami drops the physical game ans just does DL?
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>>182363636
?
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>>182363560
Probably never. Don't forget that Yugioh is the #1 physical card game in the world and has been for over a decade now, with over a billion cards sold every year. Duel Links' yearly income of like $200M is only like 12% of Konami's total Yugioh income.
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>>182363718
apparently it just doesn't like me
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>>182363893
>12% in about a year
Sounds worrying to me. Where are the sales numbers for this kind of stuff, by the way?
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beep beep sekrit crawler tek coming thru
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>>182361850
>>182362529
Best Arc-V indeed.
>>182362786
Source
I can't find it on facebook.
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>>182362529
Nah, best ruri archetype, definitely but she's worst girl
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>>182364531
>worst girl
That's not Rin the old-men pleaser for money.
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I stopped playing this Jew game around the times of pendulums.
I still want to play my pet (shit) deck of Reddolches.
What splashable pendulum cards should I use?

Any advice /dng/?
And no not playing a shit deck is not an option, I only play for fun and salt.
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>>182364613
Pendulums aren't splashable
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>>182364613
Dont try it with Pendulum. Pendulum decks are pendulum decks, theres very little splashability.

Splash in Zoo and Artifacts.
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>>182364613
Pendulum era is over now, anon. (Well, in like two weeks or so officially.)

Its the LINK era.

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Link_Summon
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>>182364613
Pendulums got gutted. All hail the new blue cards.
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>>182364613
run away fast
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>>182364715
>>182364937


Metalfoes are very much splashable.
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>>182364613
None, and leave and never come back.
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>>182365348
>1 out over 10 archetypes
Yeah pendulums are really splashable anon.
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>>182364613
Why bother?
You can only have one card from your Extra Deck on the field.
I can see them doing okay with Links, but stick to your Whore Queen.
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>>182364613
Missus Radiant can Help you, but I don't suggest you to depend always on her.
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>>182365524
I felt compelled to say something. I'm sorry.
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>>182364608
>not Yuzu "cucked worse than Aki" Higari
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>>182365653
>Higari
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>>182365959
i think you mean zuzu boils
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>>182366324
>F-Zero Archetype
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>>182366324
F-Zero racing comes to Yugioh. This is most likely the archetype with 2 monsters and 2 spells, because I can't imagine ritual summoning a racecar.
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>>182366324
Judging now by this... and how the two bottom pics are really differents from the top...
This may be
>COTD-EN086 = Effect Monster
>COTD-EN087 = Effect Monster
>COTD-EN088 = Spell Card
>COTD-EN089 = Spell Card
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>>182366324
Those look like either generic cyberse or UA. Looks like shit either way
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>>182366324
>future race car archetype
I hope its good.
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>>182366324
a-are these synchro rings? is it happening?
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>>182366493
probably one being a field
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>>182366461
>because I can't imagine ritual summoning a racecar.

It's funny you should mention that since for the past 20 years, there have no Machine-type ritual monsters.
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>>182366324
>>182366493
>COTD-EN086 = Effect Monster
>COTD-EN087 = Effect Monster
>COTD-EN088 = Spell Card
>COTD-EN089 = Spell Card
The bottom right reminds me of a Spyral Spell Card/Trap Card, so you are most likely right.
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>>182366594
speed boost
they ded nerd
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>>182366652
It would be Cyberse anyway
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>not posting the sneak peek card
>or the ritual one
Why should I care?
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>>182366790
m-muh tcg archetypes and digital racing shit
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>>182366790
the sneak is zombie dog
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>>182366324
Despite there not much to go on current results
Top left: 260
Top Right: 96
Bottom Left: 33
Bottom Right :41
Whatever is on like will always by default be the first card revealed.
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>>182359798
I actually really liked the pack. I loved getting foils of stuff that was common, like Dragonpit and Pendulum Call. And they made it really easy to get all the new cards by guaranteeing 2 per pack.
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Where were you when f-zero saved yugioh?
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>>182367323
When do they get revealed again?
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>>182367707
>konami doing f-zero b4 ninten
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>>182367721
It just says a few days so I guess within the next week.
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>>182367707
Here, telling you to kill yourself.
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>>182367946

t. slowfag
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>still no news on the Ritual
Kay...
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>>182367819
F-Zero is a shitty series that nobody cares about aside from Falcon, who is just a meme himself.

>>182368129
t. meme loving cuckold
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leave
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>>182368378
>Falcon, who is just a meme himself.
I can say the same with OW THE EDGEHOG and Rosalina. And Kaiba is a meme too. And thanks to Other M Samus is also meme status
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>>182368431
You first, cuck.
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>>182368268
Since Konami of Europe is in charge of F-zero.dek you have to wait for Konami of America to reveal the ritual archetype.
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>>182366324
Fairies.
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>>182368623
All true, and she was a meme before that anyway. Your point?
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>>182368679
They aren't even showing off the art this time. It all feels so pointless
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So with code of the duelist coming out soon in the tcg, will it be possible to build good decks with the new tcg exclusive cards? Or will I have to wait until a few boosters have come out? I like zombies and am looking forward to building something with the Vandread cards, if they are the ritual archetype. Secretly hoping they can be used as stealth support for this badboy here, the first zombie ritual monster.
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>>182368623
Rosalina is a meme? What?
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>>182368829
They're probably playing the expectations and hype game differently after SPYRAL and Subterror failed to perform very well as decks.
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>>182368679
>>182368882
>archetype
get real
did you not look at the list clearly? 1(ONE) Ritual card
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>>182368679
Aren't they revealing the dog?
>that pic
I feel jelly Saffira got a chibi official version. But, I guess she is really popular right?
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>>182368882
Now I want a zombie ritual that acts as a necromancer that revives cards from both gy's and the ritual spell mills the tributes.
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>Konami finds out everyone has a boner for rituals
>makes link monsters blue
>utter failure and hated universally
?????
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>>182368679
>Those fuck me eyes.
HNNNGGGGG
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>>182369161
hang urself
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>>182369130
It's because they are in the ED, using and depending entirely on the ED is crap and they want you to forget the ED existed.
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>>182359164
OP seems to only have the windows/mac versions of ygopro. I think it'd be helpful to include the linux download as well!

https://github.com/cromerc/ygopro
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>>182369130
>everyone
Vocal minority is much closer to the truth.

>>182369323
What?
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>>182369006

The ritual could be a vandread monster for all we know, I hope it is, and would be nice if it was a zombie monster. The list scan isnt that clear so its hard to tell.
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>>182369424
Just making a bad joke of how Konami is conspiring so we can hate the ED when they eventually ban everything from the ED, starting with Synchros.
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>>182368378

>i'm bad at f-zero so that means the game is bad

its okay anon, not everyone can have good taste
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>>182368956
SPYRAL was intentionally made non-competitive (see: SPYGAL). It's Subterrors being shit is what they didn't expect.
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>>182369130
>everyone
>few fag here n there
nekroz a outlier
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>>182369540
Nintoddlers first racing game is very difficult, yes.
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>>182369653
>one card ruins the whole arche
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>>182369657
>blue has the most shades in this card game

?
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>>182369754

Oh wow, you're a console warrior too. I'm so sorry that your parents dropped you on your head when you were a baby.
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enough
http://www.strawpoll.me/13410686/r
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>>182369815
The point is that they were trying to make the archetype as a whole not meta, using SPYGAL as an example.
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>>182369989
Then why did SPYRAL actually end up seeing play while Subterrors remained a complete joke?
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>>182369852
I feel the same for you.
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>>182369653
How did they not expect Subterror to fail when their 3rd wave of support was the worst wave of support any TCG exclusive archetype had gotten so far? Even U.A. received better stuff than what Subterrors got in Raging Tempest.
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>>182369023
The dog was revealed with the check list which is something they almost always do with the sneak peak card.
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>>182369901
Links themselves have some nice ideas with columns and link climbing, so not really.

The Master Rule update however is the only real issue with Links, to be honest.
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>>182369815
>implying
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>>182369653
>>182369989
But SPYGAL is one of their best cards and the focus of one of the closest things to a competitive build the deck had.
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>>182370102
That was a Zoodiac deck with a few SPYRAL cards chucked in. it's like saying Kaiju was a broken deck because people used Gameciel and Slumber for removal in non-Kaiju decks.
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>>182370180
*Sneak Peek
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>>182369006
b-but there's already a guide on pojo
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>>182370247
>one of their best cards is intentionally unsearchable
really fires the neurons
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This means that TCG something get backfired
They shilled BA and did a few fun things with UA.
They keep it with Kozmo and Kaijus, one doesn't rely on the Extra Deck, the other are the best option for removal.
But they got cocky and created Subterror and Spyral, they never expected to fail with both Subterror and Spyral.
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>>182370554
No matter how badly Tewart messed up, he will never surpass Noble Knights.

Honorable mention to Jerome "Theseus is good guys!" McHale.
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>>182370351
Every deck is just a pile of engines these days, what's your point?
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>>182370707
You know what is sad? I have a friend that honestly love Noble Knights and dislike how they got.
If I have a reason of why I wish NK can get good is for him.
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>>182370554
Kaijus were another backfire, I honestly don't think Konami foresaw people using them as splashable easy removal.
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>KoA made SPYRAL bad on purpose
Did you forget about NK's guys? Whenever they try to make a meta deck without gay floating mechnics KoA fails hard. At this point all I expect out of their archetypes are redhead waifus.
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>>182370707
Theseus is pretty okay though.
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>>182370554
Again, I don't see how they couldn't have expected that. For SPYRAL they made Misty and Resort Staff non-archetypal, made Sleeper blow your field up if he gets destroyed, and made Fully Armed miss timing in a lot of situations. For Subterror, they gave them literally nothing useful in Raging Tempest, which they acknowledged by making it all low rarity. And then they made both of the behemoths in Maximum Crisis do nothing to solve the deck's problems.
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>>182370847
In what, Tzolkin Turbo?
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>>182370771
That this kind of degenerate cuckoldry needs to stop
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>>182370970
If you didn't have all your creativity killed by YouTubers you would understand.
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>>182370203
Having some nice ideas is not going to cut it, you could have done many of the things links do without adding links as a mechanic itself.

Also besides Master Rule update the fact that Links have very little restrictions and are incredibly masturbatory is making them worse than any synchro shit ever.
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>>182370847
>>182370970
>>182371152
I've used in decks with lots of level 3's before for making level 8 synchros
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>deck was hyped to fuck
>deck comes out and fails

What are their names?
Hard Mode: No Noble Knights
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>>182371336
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>>182370970
in ur mom

Seriously though it's the one thing keeping Instant Fusion relevant, and it's fairly decent in a bunch of decks.
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>>182371129
Why? Beats having your decklist made in advance for you by Konami.
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>>182371460
Were they really hyped or was it just that one really stupid guy who bought over $1000 worth of Pre-Prep and Urgent Ritual Art?
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>>182371640
where did it all go so wrong lads
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>>182371785
People get hyped up on the "market watch" videos, and every idiot thinks he's suddenly an investor.
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>>182370771

Is it possible for Konami to stop designing cards this way? Seems like if its not some kind of engine its just not competitive these days.
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>>182370970
It was good while Norden was legal. Having both it and TER as alternative options to your Instant Fusion gave you more options.
Now Instant Fusion isn't really worth running anymore.
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>>182371640
Wrong. /dlg/ is that way, nostalgiacuck.
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>>182371336
Spellbooks
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>>182372016
>not part of an engine
so this isn't meta right?
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>>182370103

Dont worry, one day you'll be old enough to have a job and afford every console instead of fighting about it on the internet.
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>>182371640
they're terrible deckbuilders who dont understand their own game though.
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>>182372051
yubel pls go
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>>182372168

Thats an anti meta card, it stops people from making plays.
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>>182372217
Why would I waste money on garbage that has no redeeming qualities?
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>>182372168
this card is overrated trash
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>>182371640

>goodstuff.dek is a good idea

it really isn't, it gets boring as fuck
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>>182372330

You'll understand when you're older.
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>>182369317
>liking a spic.
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>>182372051
Did I miss something about this card?
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>>182372368
>goodstuff.dek gets boring as fuck
Wasn't the HAT format literally a bunch of goodstuff and people claim it was the best format ever?
Seems contradicting
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>>182372676
goat format is the same, and people love it
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>>182372747
because people are stupid and whores for anything old school
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>>182372676

>arent you contradicting yourself when other people hold a opinion that is different from yours?

no
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>>182372512
It is a good idea to spend your money on things you enjoy, even if they are trash.
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>>182372532
>fallen angel
>spic
She's a ethereal being, my love for her is pure and it is NOT racemixing
please delete your comment.
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post cardfu's
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>>182373010
but angel is a race anon
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>>182372993
Welcome to modern /vg/ where attaching a picture of fan-made art of a Yugioh card to your post gets you banned for 1-3 days!
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>>182372993
Only Facebook drama and arguing over the definition of words is allowed now
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>>182373050
Post my cardfu's what? Lewds?
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>>182373245
anything to bring the general away from dumb more dumb arguments
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>>182373245
my cardfu's what? Lewds?
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>>182373438
You're a dumb arguments.
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>>182373882
Kill yourself, Trip
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>>182373091
I actually have no idea what that spell card had to do with the post it was being used in reply to.
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>>182374085
Spell Chronicle was a meme that some Yugitubers or w/e hyped up to trick gullible retards into buying their copies of a few years back.
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>>182374176
Oh, I only recognized it because of GX. Fantastic, now even relevant discussion is getting deleted by hyperactive mods.
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>>182372127
And the award for "least intelligent post of all time" goes to...
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>>182373087
she may have fallen but she will always be my angel!!!
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>>182374373
It was deleted because he posted *blocks ur path* which is a /v/ meme that's reposted to hell and back.
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>>182364613
Despite having some success with the original Pendulum Magicians, pendulums in Madolche were never the greatest way to go, not even with the Risebell meme. Brilliant Fusion is what you're looking for
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>>182371336
Magicians
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>>182374426
Well.
People waifu the fuck out of Lilithmon and LadyDevimon so this is fine, I guess.
Plus she has brown skin with violet hair, a combination I personally love. So it's good.
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>>182372895
I was just generalizing, i personally hated HAT format and even goat format too because the deck was just carried by generic stuff, which is why i lso consider Qliphorts being meta be a stupid way to call it because Qli's weren't even good, you just search with scunt and then set floodgates
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>>182375203
>qliphorts were bad
>here's why they were good
1-800-come-on-now
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>>182375193
i wasn't very found of her, i'm more of a flat white qt guy but hey demon girls transcend every other tastes, and she grew on me
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>>182375193
basic bitches
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>>182375308
I meant the archetype itself, take away the floodgates and what do they do?
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>>182375479
krystia is a dude my dude
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>>182375732
search, otk with disk, make towers?
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>>182375481
>play a game about monsters
>masturbate to the humans
I never understood this. All these new flavors to pick from, and you choose vanilla? Why not just open pornhub?
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>>182375813
>OTK with disk
I tought the OTK machine was Shell, i give you towers though.
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>>182375830
why would you even be attracted to a nonhuman?
>>182375884
i dont remember their names, whichever one spammed 2 from the deck
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>>182375479
I'm more of "benevolent or anything that is good" type of girl, but I can recognize when I like the looks of anybody else. That Darklord has that combination that I am a big fan of it.
>>182375481
Let's be real here, if I have to choose the female looking here, I will go for all the Olympus XII (and the males too, they are my favourite DigiGroups), Ranamon, BelleStarmon, Rosemon, Bastemon, Sakuyamon, Shutumon, Sistermon Noir, and AncientMermaimon.
Then I will get Dukemon, Beelzebumon Blast Mode, ShineGreymon Burst Mode, OmegaShoutmon, Sleipmon, and Jessmon.
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>>182375958
They're drawings
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>>182376027
Your point?
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>ywn help Ixtab deal with her fallen angel PTSD
why live
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>>182376369
Who was Ixtab before?
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>>182376450
the archetype is named fallen angel you dummie
she is actually the goddess of suicide and hanging
pretty hot
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>>182376603
Oh, so she has your tipical suicide PTSD except that she can't die exactly, and your job is to make her happy, and coincidentally make her happy so there is no need for more suicides to happen until she becomes into something of life and hope or some bullshit like that?
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>>182376603
chuuni the archetype doesn't sound particularly appealing
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>>182376450
>>182376603
>>182376825

sameguy
the "lore" of the darklords is very similar to the views of christians on paganism: since there i only one god, the "other gods" are Therefore demons, servitors of Satan. So the aesthetic of darklords new gen is to take pagan gods and design them under this lense.
I want to go to shopping with Ixtab and get here decent clothes then we would travel the world together
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>>182377125
You would be lucky if Ixtab get redeemed so she can't die... then again, they say that Love is an universal force that can change everything, even from bad to good, so who knows?
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>>182377242
k stop erping man that's pretty gay and beta even by my standards
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>>182377410
>love
>gay and beta
We will see that soon.
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>>182377410
From who is that booty?
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>>182377631
looks like papi
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>>182377498
But i played her irl since the first proxies releases anon, she's already with and she's a good christan wife so i'm sorry but i must ask you to delete this comment, thats creepy
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>>182364613
Just fucking use their trap card if you want to dump out your hand like a dipshit.
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>>182377631
Albedo i think, its from a Overlord 2ch sketches compilation
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>he hasn't switched to Magic
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>>182378113
Just when you think this place can't get anymore autistic, this damn image pops up.
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>>182378113
>image.jpg
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>>182373050
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Besides YGOrg, what place do people go for decklists? The website I used to go that I have bookmarked hasn't been updated for a long time last I checked and I can't remember the other two I used.
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>>182379557
reddit
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>>182380000
I was mostly asking where to get lists that topped, I guess I didn't clarify that. I've never been to whatever subreddit I could get that from though so maybe you can find that too. Is it the regular yugioh subreddit?
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>>182362917
No, Not good.

Why do people keep asking this like people dont run some sort of attack altering card with King Tiger
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>>182380000
shit quads for shit website
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>>182380764
Oh, you mean a card that is fucking unsearchable? To protect your win condition from a monster that is extremely searchable, in an archetype that has the freedom to run massive amounts of staple cards that also out your super cool tech?
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>>182381490
I mean Burden isnt the only card that Lowers attack. Also considering the amount of different cards that allow you to bring monsters back from the grave it should be easy to keep it on the field.

Then again I'm just talking out my ass since the only decks I use are stall shit
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post a cute UA deck /ygo/
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>>182378113

>magic
>2017

standard is a fucking disaster right now and getting into any other format that people actually play is too expensive
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>>182378113
>He hasnt dropped playing card games in general and just went to vend/collect cards
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>>182381806
So you're saying you got to go first and opened Wanghu, Blackrose Garden or Burden of the Mighty and CoTH and the Zoo player didn't open any S/T removal at all? Great!
Game 2.
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>>182382584
Nah thats not what I'm saying at all. Im just saying that there are options.

Also all the zood decks ive gone against havent used back row destruction for some reason. I dont know if thats normal or not but thats what im basing my experience off of
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Will Dark Magician ever get a Synchro?
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>>182383619
>Black Magician
>Getting a White card
No.
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>>182383619
Arcanite was the synchro dm
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>>182383872
I always wondered why Arcanite has DM's rod.
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>>182382506
Are you saying this format isn't a disaster?
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>>182384090
Well I didn't mean it was literally the character Dark Magician, but it's obviously meant to be A dark magician if you know what I mean.
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>>182384164
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>>182384257
you really need to fucking stop
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>>182369901
>vocal minority
>more people hate it then like it
dng BTFO
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>>182384460
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>>182384460
Stop what?
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>>182384257
>muh old school beatdown
Except it's not. It's cheating out fatties. Red Eyes, Zombies, Machine, Relinquished (LOL I STEAL UR FATTY), Blue Eyes, Swift Knight, GK, it's all about pooping out a big card ASAP
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>>182384684
What are you on about? Also it's than.
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>>182360278
Because Clear/Crystal Wing are Wind? They're the same types as their dragons.
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>>182385421
>Also it's than.
Just give up senpai, half this site misuses shit like that, you're not gonna get anywhere
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>>182385274
Don't bother, none of the nostalgiafaggots actually know anything about how the game was played in the early years, beyond their shitty schoolyard decks.
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>>182359164
Can we PLEASE change dueling network general's name to YGG or Yugi General or something like that? DN died years ago
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>>182384257

Why do people think that the way they played the game with their friends when they were a kid was what the meta was like? The game was summoned skull beatdown for a few sets before shit started to get crazy.
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>>182385776
I know. Just let me appease my autism.
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>>182386581
DB exists though
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>>182386581
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>>182386581
every dam time
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Guesses on what the gimmick of the race car TCG exclusive is?
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>>182389075
Being really shit
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>>182389075
They crash into opponent monsters to trigger effects in grave.
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Darklord support when
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From what I can decipher on Vendread Houndhorde, the theme seems to be based around granting their bosses additional effects. Houndhorde gives quick effect S/T removal.
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>>182386924
More like tinderbook
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>>182389497
never, it done
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Anyone has a decent timelord deck?
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>>182390531
Just run them as an engine in something like Shinobirds.
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>>182391026
I'm mixing it with darklords to see how it goes.
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Reminder that these people post here.
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>>182391119
what did you expect, dng is just petdeck shitters
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>>182369331
...Is anyone going to acknowledge this?
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>>182383619
He'll get one when they give Red-eyes a synchro and Blue-eyes an xyz.

Even now, there is no "Dark Magician" Fusion, Synchro or Xyz.
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>>182389589
So Ancient Gears then
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>>182391286
It was brought up in the last thread, but apparently OP forgot to add it.
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>>182391286
>linux
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>>182391481
I was the one who brought it up, yeah

reason I keep shilling is because I knew a guy who was desperate to find it (hence why I went digging for it) and I know there'll be others in here in the same boat.
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>>182391119
Reminder back then that the babbies, Sword and Draco weren't even revealed yet.

You may as well dig up the caps of people calling Shaddolls and Nekroz trash before all the support came out.
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>>182389075
accel synchros and ATK boosting (like gaining speed)
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>>182391602
>implying you needed the babies to know that the dragons were degenerate

Big Eye and Super Rejuv were a thing. Most people who were good at the game knew that they were broken from day one. The majority of the shitters on /dng/ and pojo just parrotted one another.
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>>182391697
so they'll be utter shit
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>>182391602

The best Dragon decks didn't even end up needing babies, draco or sword.
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>>182386581
I do sometimes but anons complains about trafition, anyway when i make the thread i´ll do it if you insist...
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>>182391119
I remember everyone being unimpressed when Cyber Dragon Infinity was revealed and fucking Edgar of all people telling them it was an actual good card.

This whole place is just the special snowflakes cave.
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>>182359798
Tune magician is the daugther of Black fand and White wing magician. Iris magician is the best friend of the father and Violet Poison is tune magician uncle.
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>>182393419
konami limit violet poison when?
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>>182393925
but konami already made links
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Is there a full top 32/64 of the NAWCQ anywhere?
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>>182391119
good know they swiched to duel links
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>>182370208
>If this face-up card leaves the field: Destroy all monsters you control
Every time
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>>182378113
Jesus fuck, that image
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>>182389075
Moving columns to represent literally racing across the board.
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>>182397690
If any of the TCG exclusives tried to force the column mechanic because of Links i'd have a good laugh.
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Taking "Fire King" Dinos to locals tomorrow, what do you guys think? Probably the jankiest deck that'll be there but i'll probably still top with how uncompetitive my locals are by just being Dinosaurs. Harpies are supere sekret tech to play Lightning Chidori and I can pop with Direwolf instead of itself. Zexal is super sekreter tech choice because it's really fun to Zexal your opponent

What's the jankiest deck you've taken to an event?
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>>182397832
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>>182397787
>implying it's okay when the OCG tries to force columns
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>>182398238
I'd laugh because it'd stack on top of the OCG's attempt to force columns in the same pack.
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>>182398037
I don't know either, and I'm playing the deck
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>>182397832
I used to take pure Kaijus to my locals. It went ok the first time but after that people learned how to play against them so it didn't work out well. Tributing a Dark Planet for a Kaiju was my #1 Yugioh bucket list item though, so I guess I'm satisfied.
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>>182398362
super secret Dark Magician tech to protect Eternal Soul
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True Dracos have dropped off quite a bit. ABCs picking up again.
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>>182391119
>tfw you were there when the reveal happened
Sometimes you never know how much you miss something until it's gone.
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>>182398693
Column Magicians sekrit meta
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>>182398881
diagram complete ban when
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>>182398881
>zoo dying made 3 decks become meta
powerful
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>>182397832
Why not Phantom Gryphon instead of Harpie Lady?
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>>182398881
Were there any Circuit Break cards being used?
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Maxx C?
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>>182399108
Oh, that didn't even occur to me. I think I only have 1 anyway. I'll take a look and see if I have some
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>>182398881
Also: one of the "others" is fucking Ritual Beasts.

>>182399172
Most decks sided (and some mained) Struggling Battle becuase of how hard it wrecks True Dracos.

Destrudo, Drake of the Dead was seen in several ABC decklists, along with Dragon Ravine as an additional Terra target.

Full report: http://roadoftheking.com/ocg-2017-07-metagame-report-2
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>>182399260
>3 of em too
yup
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>>182399381
You can still run just 1 Gryphon and 1 Harpie if you're in a real pinch. Hell, even Sky Scout is an option. There are a few WIND Winged-Beast vanillas with better stats than the OG Harpie Lady.
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>>182399260
Cute.

>>182399417
Bet the japs can't wait for Terra and Ravine to get banned again.
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>>182399558
Yeah, 1 Gryphon and 1 Harpie Lady must be great targets for Rescue Rabbit.
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>>182399720
Sorry, I'm retarded. Well, you probably have 2 copies of some WIND vanilla that's better than Harpie Lady.
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>>182399417
>In this relatively slower metagame, Metaltron XII, the True Dracombatant finally has the chance to shine.
wait seriously
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>>182398881
>ABCs
Glad I still have mine, but if ABCs are back thanks to links, maybe I can play Stun Aromages again.
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>>182399417
>>182399907
>Metaltron XII, the True Dracombatant
His effect is fucking amazing but no one will really destroy, just kaiju him. I still have mine so I'm ready for a little price spike
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>>182399558
I think I have Sky Scouts, I'll take a look for those and for other possible cards. Thanks for the tip
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>>182399907
>>182400279
I approve of this.
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>>182398881
>ABC back from the dead with Zoos finally dying.

What the hell has Konami been putting out after MACR?
This deck is a year old now and all it did was remake XYZ from 90s.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antlion i ran away from loli but loli find me
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>>182401256
>He thinks being old means a deck can't compete
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>>182399417
>no Stargrails, Trickstars, Cyverse, Crawlers or Metaphys

THE CITY OF LINKS AND SPELL CHRONICLE BUYERS
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>>182401603
>Cyverse
Decode talker and proxy are cyverse, aren't they?
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>>182399417
>Ritual beast
nigga whut, decklist or gtfo
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>>182401743
Reminder Proxy Dragon is blessed
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/173195149/#173200000
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>>182401883
It's in one of the links at the problem probably.
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>>182401256
>all it did was give good effects to old cards
who would have guessed that that's all it took
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http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/products/bp-cibr.html

They went into hiding after Maximum Crisis, but now SPYRAL and the Subterrors have returned with Link Monsters to update their strategies for a new era of Dueling! Summon a “Subterror” Link Monster that can hit the field with up to 4400 ATK, gets your best Flip monsters out of your Deck, and then Summons them! Guess what kind of card is on top of your opponent’s Deck (make sure to peek first with SPYRAL GEAR – Drone) and the new “SPYRAL” Link Monster can Summon any “SPYRAL” monster from your Deck. Of course, it also counts as SPYRAL Super Agent on the field and in the Graveyard, so you can use all your “SPYRAL GEAR” cards with it!
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>They went into hiding after Maximum Crisis, but now SPYRAL and the Subterrors have returned with Link Monsters to update their strategies for a new era of Dueling! Summon a “Subterror” Link Monster that can hit the field with up to 4400 ATK, gets your best Flip monsters out of your Deck, and then Summons them! Guess what kind of card is on top of your opponent’s Deck (make sure to peek first with SPYRAL GEAR – Drone) and the new “SPYRAL” Link Monster can Summon any “SPYRAL” monster from your Deck. Of course, it also counts as SPYRAL Super Agent on the field and in the Graveyard, so you can use all your “SPYRAL GEAR” cards with it!
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>>182402447
So what are the chances that the fucking TCG gives us the first viable Link archtype
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>>182402447
This just creates so many more questions
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>>182402447
>>182402464
YOU CAN'T GET RID OF ME THAT EASILY AHAHAHAHAHA
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>>182397787
I'm thinking the Vandread thing has something to do with columns.

They said they couldn't reveal it now, but when they did it would make sense. yada yada. I'm thinking they reveal it after the starter drops.
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>>182402447
I FUCKING TOLD YOU SPYRALS WERE BETTER
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>>182402447
>first pre links archetypes to get link monsters are both main deck archetypes
at least they sound pretty good
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>>182402447
>>182402464
My sides are on fire right now.

>>182402575
Stranger things have happened.
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>>182402730
The Subterror one has to be massively broken to help because Links can't go facedown which means none of the behemoths' effects that summon themselves can activate.
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>>182402867
>that can hit the field with up to 4400 ATK
Sounds like it gains attack based on the amount of face-down monsters or something.
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>>182402447
>Famous monsters from history like Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys return in powerful and unpredictable phantasmal forms.
Out of all the cards and archtypes in Circuit Break, they've decided to shill fucking Metaphys. For a format with Macro and Fissure at 1. When Metaphys have done fuck all in the OCG even though they have both at 3 and a much healthier banlist.
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>first viable link deck is fucking spyral
We have level eater and gofu too.
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Reminder for you spyral players
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>>182402867
Also you can't use face downs for link summons. Subterror doesn't sound like a good choice for a link monster.
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>>182402447
>>182402464
>inb4 the Extra Pack 2017 having more cards rumors are true and these are imports from that
It'd just add another layer to the meme
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>>182403317
That depends on how high of a Link it is. If it's just a Link 1 (doubtful, but necessary for it to be good) then you can finally get use out of just normal summoning Nemesis Warrior on an empty field.
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Sup /dng/, you guys can have this stuff from a porn site by the name of Nijie.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0BxK0QaLDZ5n0S3VkSXdqRWJwTnc?usp=sharing
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Should I buy SPYRAL now or wait for the mega-tins? Also, will Maximum Crisis be in the mega-tins?
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>>182403474
I think you're on to something. They've already confirmed in CotD that there are 2 TCG exclusive archetypes with 4 cards each. It would be very strange for them to reduce that number to 3 each in Circuit Break to throw in random SPYRAL and Subterror support.
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>>182403317
>Okay KOA, we should print some TCG-exclusive Link monsters to hype the mechanic since it's not doing well in Japan
>How about we give support to an old archtype? Maybe throw Noble Knights a bone? People still like Kozmo, right? Maybe we could do something interesting with Kaiju and link markers that point to your opponent's field?
>No, let's give fucking Subterror a Link monster, the one archtype that's mechanically designed to just not fucking work with Links at all
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>>182403610
Meant for >>182403335
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>>182403482
I ain't clicking that shit nigga, what is it?
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>>182403474
But the text implies that it has an attack gaining effect that can bring it up to 4400, so it seems like it's going to be a boss monster as opposed to a play extender.
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>>182403614
Crawlers are Links + Flips. But that deck has a myriad of problems
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>>182403832
complete garbage
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>>182403835
The text implies both since it can boost its ATK as well as search + summon Subterrors. Obviously that does sound too good for a Link 1, but if it's any higher than that it will be much harder for the deck to summon and thus won't help with its massive bricking problem.
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>>182402447
>they seriously would print Link support for the TCG archetypes
Link BA was only supposed to be a shitpost, not a thing that could happen
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OCG players are saying the new Links may be a move by KoJ to add hype to the decks in Asia, and increase sales of Extra Pack. Unsurprisingly people are apparently not too interested in the upcoming Extra Pack 2017.


All of this from a mostly Chinese board.
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>>182403335
>>182403610
>>182404059
This is the rumor i'm referring to by the way

Extra Pack 2017
- It was listed as 42 cards

- But it seems Konami at the last minute wanted to add additional cards to give the pack some more meat since 42 is way too low.

- It's unknown if the additional cards to bump the pack to over 50 cards are reprints or not, but there's a strong possibility new cards are included

- The reason for doing so is because the Duelist Pack: Legend Duelist and Collector's Pack 2017 packs are fairly unpopular with stores and players in Japan due to the fact they seem to be designed both for chiefly pre "New Master Rule" formats.

- So they're thinking of adding cards here that work with the new rules and format, i.e. Link Monsters and the like.
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>>182402447
>>182402464
>New link monsters for SPYRAL and Subterror
fucking kek, I still have like 6 Subbterror womb tattoo. Can't wait for the retards to hype up the prices.
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>>182403552
They spoiled the effect already. It's probably just going to be:
>This card's name becomes "SPYRAL Super Agent" while it is on the field or in the Graveyard. You can declare 1 card type (Monster, Spell, or Trap); reveal the top card of your opponent's Deck, and if you do, Special Summon 1 "SPYRAL" monster if it is a card of that type to a zone this card points to.

Now ask yourself, is this effect good enough to make SPYRAL competitive?

If it is, ask yourself again: do you think this is going to be easy to summon? If you're lucky, it'll be a Link-2 with arrows like ↙↘, but we both know it's not going to be that generous. Will you still play it if it's a Link-3 with shit arrows? You'll have to do some meme like Quick-Fix duplication to bring it out. And what if the effect has restrictions?

It's probably going to be a 1900 too since Spyral Tough also matched Super Agent. Probably a Water or Fire Warrior.

Do you think this will save SPYRAL?
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You know there is something wrong with your deck if FireFist AI almost won by decking out you after Emptiness, destroy it when only 1 card left in your deck, then kill you using Cowboy
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>>182404574
what deck
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If we pretend the Extra Pack 2017 rumor is true then what if the Dark Magician/Cyber Dragon fusion and Odd-Eyes monsters are actually imports from Extra Pack 2017?
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>>182405271
dark magician
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>>182402447
>>182402464
I actually really love this. Proxy Dragon and Decode Talker alone made SPYRALs far, far better than they ever were solely with the TCG cards.
And now they're actually getting an explicit, on-theme Link instead?

I love this. You'll see the light.
Turboing out Master Plan, grabbing a Mission and then making a Link Summon using her and whatever in order to trigger her effect for a SPYRAL and Resort that also nets you another SPYRAL. Just sets the whole combo train going and makes ending with Sleeper + Last Resort with Decode Talker as well as plenty of cards to do it all over again.
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>>182405627
>You'll see the light.
Neck yourself.
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>>182405627
>Turboing out Master Plan
This is actually what I'm most excited for
>Bring out Master Plan with the Link
>Search with Plan
>Ladder with Plan + Link into Firewall or anything else
>This triggers Plan's second effect for a +3 total
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>>182405547
I guess it's possible, but it doesn't help the TCG any since we're getting them regardless, and it just means there will be less other new cards in the Extra Pack. It would be good for OCG players though since they won't miss out on those 3 cards.
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Just give me more Rituals
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>>182404569
>You'll have to do some meme like Quick-Fix duplication to bring it out. And what if the effect has restrictions?
You summon Decode Talker by making an L2 Link and then just summon Agent from the hand with Agent's effect. Quik-Fix from the graveyard with Quik-Fix's effect, or any SPYRAL from the graveyard with Big Red. Not to mention Magic Veil and what have you.

It's not that hard at all to make Decode Talker. So unless the restrictions are for some reason too strict, it should be easy peasy to summon the SPYRAL Link too.
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>>182406178
Which goes back to the main point of whether or not a Link with this effect will let Spyral top.
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>>182406253
If it's as easy to summon as Proxy or Decode Talker. It very well might.
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>>182406464
I think you're suffering from some major delusion there anon
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>>182406178
>You summon Decode Talker by making an L2 Link and then just summon Agent from the hand with Agent's effect.
???
That's like saying you summon Decode Talker by normal summoning three monsters.
This isn't fast or efficient at all, it's on par.
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>>182404569
The only thing that matters is that it's an ED Super Agent, meaning you can set-up the Quik-Fix Dullahan loop for "infinite" Link fodder way, way easier.
And since it's also a Link monster, you can also goes for Extra Link and shit since Super Agent won't unnecessarily takes spot for no reason.

The only problem is that the whole Link monster line-up right now is so weak, that even if you have infinite Link fodder which can shit out 6 Link-4 of your choice, they'll just Raigeki your field to oblivion.
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>>182406761
Exactly. It's on par. He was responding to someone who was skeptical that a Link-3 could be made easily in SPYRAL.
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>>182404193
STOP THIS STUPID UNPOPULAR SALES SHIT MEME
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>>182407029
>He was responding to someone who was skeptical that a Link-3 could be made easily in SPYRAL.
And if the answer to that is "summon Agent when you already have a Link 2 that came out of the ether and pretend this competes with True Draco", then the skepticism was justified.
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>Links are such a failure the TCG needs to make exclusives and announce them monhs ahead just to hype people
You people are sheep.
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>>182407086
He flat out said it's a rumor. Beyond that, you have as much proof that it's a meme as he does that it's true.
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>>182407202
shut up faggot
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>>182406761
The difference is that when you send the monsters to the graveyard, you either plus or can re-summon them using their own effects. Because that's what SPYRALs do.

Actually front loading with 3 summons prior is a lot more difficult.
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>>182407356
They will be shit and you know it. I'll laugh as your terirble archetypes fall to Master Peace.
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>>182406178
Turns out I missed to write the Mission. Assault makes things a lot easier too. Especially with Last Resort.
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>>182407550
Peace will probably be dead at that point, though they will probably still fall to ABC or whatever other older deck somehow manages to be stronger than them.
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>>182407202
>You people are sheep
I'm a sheep fucker, i'd smash pic related
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>When you create a Link monster for an archetype that primarily consists of high level flip monsters
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Links on Percy when? We're even getting TCG exclusive Links.
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>>182408918
>sheep (male)
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>>182410293
Those hips and the wikia saying female say otherwise
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Retard here.

How do TCG exclusives work in terms of development? I was under the impression KOA was primarily a distributor and that the design labs were all in Japan's HQ.

Does KOA have to get the greenlight from Japan? Where does the art come from? How much actual leeway does KOA actually have when it comes to making product?
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>>182410357
that bulge, cannot fool me.
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>>182410747
Pluffy vulva
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>>182410507
I think NKs were drawn by some spic on deviantart. As for leeway, BA and Kozmo were both meta, but the shit after them wasn't, so make of that what you will.
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Also I don't know how relevant this information will be, but I find it funny that Ultramafus won't flip the Link monster face-down while everything else still will.
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>>182402447
>Link SPYRALS
OH YEAH BABY
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>Trishula is now $3.00
besides the reprint, what the hell happened? Is it dead in links?
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>>182411670
Not many decks can get it out consistently, so why bother?
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>>182410982
What? Links cant be flipped face down by any card.
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>>182411670
Reprinted a ton of times in a short amount of time does that to you, the only ones that have retained their value are the AP and DT ones
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>>182411942
Exactly, as I said I don't think it is relevant information unless the Link somehow takes advantage of that.

When are we getting our version of the errata for Darkness Approaches?
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>>182410507
The TCG has a R&D department headed up by former "pro-duelist" Jerome McHale. Robert Boyajian recently joined as well. They created both Burning Abyss and Kozmo, and the game changing Kaijus. So I imagine they have quite the leeway.

The Korean OCG department also has a R&D staff. They are responsible for both Paleozoics, and the Lovecraft inspired extra deck monsters like Elder Entity Norden. So once again they seem to have a large amount of leeway.
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Let's say, the whole deal of missing the timing gets axed completely from the game, what kind of decks would benefit from this?
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>>182414020
Gustos.
Fortune Ladies.
Yang Zing.
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>>182412126
Why did Darkness Approaches get an errata anyway? It's not game breaking in the slightest.

>>182414020
Yang Zing and probably Dark Worlds
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>>182414020
>activates Waboku
>revives 5 Paleo from grave
Paleo I guess.
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>>182414020
Did someone say "buff Madolche"?
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>>182402447
>Subterror Link
I'm erect

>>182402464
>Summon a “Subterror” Link Monster that can hit the field with up to 4400 ATK, gets your best Flip monsters out of your Deck, and then Summons them!
Stop, I can only get this hard
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when do you guys expect the BA link monster to come out?
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>>182414020
>eatos can actually use it's equip spell
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>>182415723
Pretty soon. I do wonder what the Link monster will be, seeing how they're consistent with the Dante's Inferno theme. Dante already met Virgil, then he already ascended and met Beatrice.
I guess it could be Lucifer but I don't think they have the guts to do it.
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who are some of your favorite yugioh youtubers?
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>>182416704
none, go back over to your "sub"
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>>182416814
did big bad youtube diddle you when you were young, anon?
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>>182416704
yugitubers are pretty shit in general. even the better ones are usually pretty bad players
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>>182386924
Do people actually use this. I never see anybody talk about it. I thought about playing Yugioh some and I particularly liked DN's set up but I don't see anyone talk about Dueling Book so I assume there must be some reason no one plays that.
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>>182417946
DB had a slow start since there were no judges from feb to may, now there are some and the servers are getting better, it's still pretty laggy most of the time but on avg there are always 500 players
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>>182402447
isn't there a rumor that BA and UA were getting support in COTD? this kinda fits.
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>>182418602
No
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Remember 20$ deck tournaments?
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How can the subterror link monster possibly work? Doesn't it being a link monster by nature mean it has no synergy with the deck?
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>>182368623
But Samus has two games coming out and her history has two of the best games of all time. Samus is legit.
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>>182420520
Didn't stop Crawlers from existing
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>>182420520
>Once per turn: Until the end of turn, you can have this card be treated as a Face-Down monster.
I don't know.
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>>182420642
>responding to a 10 hour old post
Not surprising, admittedly
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>>182420815
I just got home from work. What of it?
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>>182420915
baka desu
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>>182399417
>/dng/ has the audacity to say that links killed the game and pre-link format was better

You guys suck at this game, holy shit
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>>182421207
/dng/ also had the audacity to say that dragon rulers were shit before "blaster eff ;)" became a common trend in 2013
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>>182359164
post more fem yusei
cant believe i still remember my trip
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>>182421207
Well, considering that it's almost the same meta as before but with old ass decks coming back, that is pretty shit. Also, how do you define "better" in this case?
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>>182420686
He means the text on the Behemoths where it says
>When a face-up monster you control is flipped face-down, if you control no face-up monsters: You can Special Summon this card from your hand in Defense Position.
specifically
>if you control no face-up monsters
meaning unless it has a retarded clause like >>182420719, just summoning this thing stops your deck from working.

Also, analyzing the spoiler, we see:
>gets your best Flip monsters out of your Deck, and then Summons them!
Where the Spyral card, which does the same thing, reads:
>and the new “SPYRAL” Link Monster can Summon any “SPYRAL” monster from your Deck
The fact that it's broken up like that probably implies that it works like Phospheroglacier and has a second effect to revive stuff.

This means the Link monster is meant either as a finisher with 4400 ATK, or a revival tool to come back once everything's left the field. Maybe it even leaves the field itself to fill the Behemoth summoning conditions.
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>>182421604
It also doesn't specify Subterror while the Spyral card does, instead just saying Flip monsters. So this might just be a generic Flip searcher with a Subterror name.
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damn i said this like 10 hours before links were revealed
was pretty much dead on
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>>182414372
post more reverse trap gelato
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>>182421820
Hold on, it if can foolish and possibly revive Flip monsters, that means it'll be pretty good in Shaddolls, assuming they can summon it
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>>182421604
maybe the subterror link will flip itself into face-down attack position? i doubt it but i think that'd be a cool way of doing it
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>>182422454
No chance considering KoJ errata'd Darkness Approaches to avoid dumb interactions that card made in the first place.
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Bought 1 MACR special edition, thoughts?
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>>182423390
Sell that diagram asap
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The best way to fix link monsters is to remove the rule that makes it so you can only special summon extra deck monster in the extra monster zone.

Just this single thing would improve things so much.
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>>182425002
Currently looking for someone to buy it.
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>>182425058
The MR4 isn't that bad once you consider that tokens are allowed to use link summoning, if only we got Dandylion back at 3
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>Having to run tokens.

Just kill me now!
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>>182359798
I ship Iris with Tune Magician.
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>>182399916
>>182421207
>people saying what ABC is back is good when it was just another shitty and dum deck with r4 spam
You niggas are desesperate.
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>>182426630
>with r4nk spam
What kind of crack are you smoking, ABC's is all about turboing out Dragon buster while maybe putting CyDra Infinity on field
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>>182402464
Jewart strikes again, i hope those links have good link marks and be generic, the effect seem to be related to the archetype.
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>>182404193
Oh i see, they are making good stuff now (for example battle of legends) because they already made a big mistake (linkz).
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>>182426786
I think he means the ABC decks that are topping in the OCG are just ABC/R4 with a few links, instead of looping A, B and C to summon a bunch of links.
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>>182426786
obviusly the purpose of the deck is make buster dragon but those unions are lvl 4; ocg tops dont use cydra
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>>182417192
This!
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I played this shit deck I fucking swept your ass. King tiger starting a chain makes it pure shit. It cant even floodgate for long because you can interact with ghost ogre or solemn strike.
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Now that Subterrors and SPYRALs are confirmed to become Tier 1, can anyone give me a good decklist for them?
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>>182429836
no
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>>182410507
TCG exclusives can be exceedingly powerful so there isnt too much oversight by Japan. Charge of the Light Brigrade and Gateway of the Six Samurai, Allure of Darkness. Maxx C, Reborn Tengu, tour Guide, kaiju.
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>>182429903
that's why you don't get laid anon
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>>182429836
>>182429903
>>182430130
kys you shitters. your meme decks will auto lose vs diagram decks
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>>182402447
>gave 2 Archetypes that have literally ZERO (0) Extra Deck monsters or would have no reason to thematically have them in the first place Link Monsters
Just stop Konami. This is becoming Noble Knights 2.0 at this point.
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>>182430192
>diagram decks
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>>182430717
A single copy is more than enough to shit all over any link deck. Mcfucking neck yourself.
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How come dinos get 6 Alantean dragons like cards with easier conditions? Babycerasaurus and the other lil nigga repeated summoning shit
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>>182430925
GX was an era
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>>182430686
>no reason to thematically have them in the first place Link Monsters
How do Link Monsters fit any deck but Cyverse 'thematically'? Gouki, Trickstar, Star Grails, etc. There's no connection between them.

Personally I'm all for the new Links, since I loved SPYRALs.
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>>182412201
They created some majespecters too. It was stated that they designed Unicorn if i remember correctly.
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>>182430828
>chain ogre
>auto-win
keh
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One of the guys that manage YGOrganization and translate every OCG stuff in a longtime said that SPYRALs and Subterrors are going to become degenerate as fuck just because the last Collectors Pack and Legend Duelist pack didn't even got out of shelves, because of how weak the cards were and Duel Links reprints.

According to him, the Extra Pack that's coming to OCG is going to be the same, unless shit gets buffed.
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>>182431165
>Chain psyframe gamma
>Giga Autowin
We can play the counter vs counter imaginary duel, but you will lose with your shitty pet decks.
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>>182431218
Where's this fucking source? Everyone keeps saying that packs are not selling but I see no one linking to the source of that
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>>182431263
>using brick gamma
heh
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>>182402447
>>182402464
So what are the odds of them being link 3s instead of 2s like they should be?
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>>182431334
>Paywall meme
>Links not selling meme
Which one is it?

>>182431357
t.shitter who never played anyone but their Dark magician friends
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>>182431165
>>182431357
Spyrals and subterrors are memecore. Get out of here with your autism.
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Haven't played for a few months
Did they ever confirm that Warrior using Xyz ruling?
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>>182431432
>implying I still play ygo
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>>182431334
I don't know his source, but he was the admin of the NeoArkCradle forum. Even back on 2009 (time that I followed the game more) from now he was giving information for the TCG side. He also did that with Vanguard and it's doing with YGOrganization.

He said that Circuit Break is also selling bad, mostly because of True Draco. And that Arc-V bad sales were nothing compared to GX, that GX was so bad that they had to break the game with Phantom Darkness, Lightsworn and stuff.
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>>182431503
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>>182431676
>>182431575
>>182431545
>>182431503
>>182431432
>>182431410
>>182431357
>>182431263
>>182431165

mcfucking killyourself falseflagging peace of shits
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>>182431609
>Arc-V bad sales were nothing compared to GX
>several tier 0 format
>bad sales
Confirmed liar.
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>>182431721
Huh? I just came to ask about the Xyz thing because I heard about the link. Don't bully me for liking trash pls
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>>182431721
>s-stop discussing what i don't like!
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>>182431747
Go on YGOrganization discord and ask him, then. Scroll back just a little and you'll see his words.
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>>182431831
Legitimately sorry.

>>182431857
False-flagging (You) fiend. I know you are discord tranny too.
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>>182431870
Why would I?
He's already confirmed a liar and might even be a Konami shill overhyping shit deck.
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>>182432006
You do you.
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>>182431545
It's still not in OCG.
Take a wild guess.
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>>182432086
I thought Jewlia's gang didn't give a shit about OCG?
Wasn't there this whole thing about a kaiju card working differently there? Idk man, I've been gone for a while
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>>182431978
you got me xd
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>>182432287
I mean, they never confirm anything here in TCG.
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>>182432287
>I thought Jewlia's gang didn't give a shit about OCG?
It's still better source of ruling than, well, nothing.
>Wasn't there this whole thing about a kaiju card working differently there?
Mecha-Dogoran get an errata, now they works the same in both region.
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>>182432304
Quit smoking penises Jeffrey
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>>182433216
Slut with a gun better be good
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>>182433216
translate this bullet, weebs
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>>182433216
>Magibullet Shooter - Calamity
>You can only use the (2) effect of cards with the same name as this card once per turn.
>(1) While this card is in a Monster Zone, you can activate "Magibullet" Spell/Trap cards from your Hand during either player's turn.
>(2) If a Spell/Trap card is activated in the same column as this card: you can target 1 "Magibullet" monster in your GY: Special Summon that monster in DEF mode.
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>>182433216
DBSW-JP020 魔弾の射手 カラミティMadan no Shashu Calamity (Magibullet Shooter Calamity)
Level 4 LIGHT Fiend Effect Monster
ATK 1500
DEF 1300
You can only use this card name’s (2) effect once per turn.
(1) You can activate “Magibullet” Spell/Trap cards from your hand during either player’s turn.
(2) If a Spell/Trap Card is activated in the same column as this card: You can target 1 “Magibullet” monster in your GY; Special Summon it in Defense Position.
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>>182433378
>>182433396
So that's how you summon the boss.
>defense position
Links confirmed.
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>>182433216
that bitch smokes penises like the false flagger Jeffrey
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>>182433216
>>182433378
>>182433396
FUCK
Now they can swarm.

It's a good thing all of their S/T is hard OPT.
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>>182433216
Claimed.
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>>182402447
O SHIT
WE GOT ELSWORD, AISHA, AND RENA
IS IT TIME FOR BEST GIRL?
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>>182433396
>combos with BriFu
not bad.
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>>182433378
>>182433396
>her (2) effect is SS1
>meaning you can use Foolish on the same column to send Caspar, and then she'll activates in new chain to SS said Caspar
I wish there's more card that can mill Fiend.

I wonder whether Photon Veil works well in this deck.
Like, searching that Trade-In kid then change the excess 2 into free draw.
The condition's a bitch though, so I guess not.
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>>182433216
I was right about her hair at the very least. But her face still looks fine. Which is neat.
She's still got the creepy arm like the rest of them though.
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So, any idea for a recurring S/T to trigger the Magibullet?
I mean, you can use their own S/T, but wasting your disruption to establish board is kind of a waste.

Al?
Vyon mill Vyon into The Shining?
GK Fusion?
Chain Healing?
Metalfoes?
Pendulum magician?

NS Caspar, activates Ariadne, Caspar search Death-Perado, then Death-Perado destroy Ariadne to search Solemn and set it in the same column with Caspar seems decent.
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>>182435506
Bamboo Sword
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>>182435506
*blocks your path*
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>NS TGU fetch Caspar into Leviair
>Gold Sarc the new girl
>Leviair detach Caspar SS new girl
>Upstart to revive Caspar
to 3 never ever
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>>182435831
It's a bit hard to get rid of the equipped Bamboo Sword.
Though I guess being self-replacing is a bonus.
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ygopro crashes when i try to edit my deck, but i can duel with the defaults fine

anyone else have this issue?
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>>182436859
Might be a problem with your images. Check the pics folder (sort it by newest first) and see if any of the images downladed are corrupted. You can either replace the corrupted images one by one (the game usually only corrupts 1 or 2 images before it crashes anyway) or redownload the whole pics folder.

It's a more prevalent problem on the Mac OS version, but it's a possible cause.
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>>182435885
I guess that works.

Maybe Spell Power Grasp also works.
Though you need to splash that spell counter field for it to work.
Or Secret+Star Hall, with Veiler/Droll splashed for search target.
I guess you can also splash Set Rotation+Gateway+BLS Ritual monster for more Trade-In target.
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>Sniffer Dragon
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>>182435885
>>182435506
>>182435831
Toon Table of Contents is better.
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>setting Shut Line in the other column in case your opponent doesn't want to make you plus from your Magibullet on their turn
Damn, man, they looks fun.
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>>182433216
>lv4
FUCK YOU KONAMI!
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>>182434202
That's not Ara.
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>what's the best fucking extra deck support for an archetype that benefits the most from being set in defense position?
>of course, the single summoning type that can't either be set or placed in defense
holy fucking shit subterror link 11/9 this is too much
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>t-the first week of results don't count, Circuit Break just released!
>second report in
Will /dng/ ever be right? This game is fucking dead.
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>>182440523
SALES FAILURE
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>>182434202
But that's not Sexbot
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>invoked buyout
Fuck this shit I'l never be able to make my invoked deck I guess. Well at least my invocation is worth 40$ now.
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>>182440523
>links are broken guys!
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>>182434453
>Implying they wont get some mill cards.
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>>182440523
You forgot last format?
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>>182435506
Gishki zielgigas and the ritual spell are a recuring mini engine.
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>>182441185
There's only one slot left for quickplay.
And foolish as their quickplay kinda suck, since so far, they only have a single card that interact with grave.
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>>182441582
I disgree since you can summon caspar on the opponents turn and use what other disruption you have to gain a search.
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>>182441065
Links as of yet aren't broken. But there are still broken Links.
Firhas got like no futureproofing in its card design. It's busted.
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>>182421497
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>>182421497
more fem yusei
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>running battle traps in the current year
fuck it i'm buying a playset of Denko
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>DO NOT CHANGE ANYTHING IN THIS FOLDER All your changes will be deleted and overwritten!
So, I can't delete anime card now?
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>>182440523
I'm liking where this is going.

On a side note: still building a Magician deck. Anyone has thoughts/ideas on Performapal Odd-Eyes Synchron? So far I can only imagine using it with Oafdragon because I only know good synchros of level 7 and 8. Is there ant of level 6 people recommend?
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>>182442683
Totally agree with you Ixtab fag...
I'll get the Secret one, only because I like it more than Ultra and because I can.
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>>182442071
Only if you managed to summon that new girl to the field.
The hypothetical foolish would only interact with that new girl and summoning her on the same turn you search it is kind of a challenge since they don't have much in term of swarming capability.

Other time, it's just a way to trigger the Magibullet, which gonna be much better if it's a decent disruption instead.
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>>182442830
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>>182443674
You'd need to run shitposting magician to summon Trish in most Magician builds.
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>>182443908
Just change your Skullcrobat into level 1 tuner.
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>>182443434
I am a simple Darklordfag though. Darklord "literally me" Morningstar didn't get enough attention to produce a memeworthy folder, sadly, so i'm forced to mostly post my wife instead. The Denko secret is indeed pretty sweet, but im a poorfag and i just ordered custom sleeves and playmats, and my whole Darklord deck is almost maximum rarity too so i'm broke asf
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>>182444048
im sure theres fanart of him on pixiv / twatter
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>people buying out infernity barrier
They drank the infernity link coolaid.
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>>182442683
Why not something that works with Allure instead?
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>>182444156
where did you think i got those? There isn't much, mostly chibi
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>>182444048
So.... you are into DARK monsters, right?
>but im a poorfag and i just ordered custom sleeves and playmats, and my whole Darklord deck is almost maximum rarity too so i'm broke asf
I see.
Well, I learned to live with the neccesary and thanks to that, I have more chances of getting things like Denko Secret (which, now that I am seeing it, it's not expensive as I originally though) or even Ulti Trishula (the day I eventually find somebody sell it) so if I did it, you can too.
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Archlord archetype with waifus when?
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>>182444408
Makes me want to draw him looking up at the clouds with a look that gives a sense of longing.Like he misses something.
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>>182444281
cause you often need to sit on krystia, assuming you sided out the vanity fiends, and he will be able to re-set everything, and in the case of paelo thats pretty bad desu
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>>182444579
Kristya retrain would be cool.
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ABC is nuts with link.
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Can Magibullets please get a S/T that searches their monsters?
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>>182444602
Eh, I thought Darklord can OTK easily.
Stalling against stun-heavy deck isn't exactly the best plan anyway.

And using it still makes your Virus card live.
>EEV at 1 in TCG
Never mind.
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>>182445319
You gonna get a continuous trap that isn't part of the archetype and you'll like it.
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>>182444602
you can do many things with darklords, one of their strengths is being able to lock the opponent while having the potential to OTK, of course it depends of the builds. Currently trying monarch engine in my krystia x2 vanity x2 deck, its way better than i expected, i guess my tastes for xyz OTKs made me underestimate it
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>>182444161
Already have 2 just in case. It will took over 10 years until it worth getting a 3rd one.
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>>182446280
>>182445846
cont.
On thing you will do quite often against decks that lacks spell/trap based monster removal like zoo is summon krystia/vanity, sit on it for a while until you have the combo pieces and eventually a TT to remove potential threats, tribute the lock for amdusc, and then go ham. That is where most OTK happen. Of course it implies they dont topdeck raigeki
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>>182431064
He meant that SPYRAL and Subterrors were both Main Deck focused archetypes.
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How bricky your deck irl? Last week I lost against someone who only summon stratos, ocean, necroshade and a shadow mist
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>>182447164
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So magibullet are just missing a way to reload the deck with bullets.
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>>182448047
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>>182448396
ew
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>>182447057
But chances are, when you go against a deck that needs you to use Denko, it's better to just OTK them ASAP, so it doesn't really matter whether you use Denko or Holding Leg.
And unlike Denko, using Leg still enables you to use backrow.

But I guess that depends on your build and preference.
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>>182448563
against paleo for example, a Vanity fiend+Denko is a almost total lock, necessitate less resources, and is more consistent than a full blown OTK. And since i only run 2 COTH, one temptation and one failing from grace as backrow it doesn't affect me much
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>>182447164
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>>182447164
I play Cardians usually IRL, so my hands are often literally unplayable Turn 1. Also a lot of decks with Brilliant Fusion, so...
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>>182449523
>>182375479
>cardians
how are they doing "competitively"?
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>>182450047
If we got Moonflower in BTTL they could have maybe seen a few more rogue tops but without the raw draw power of Moonflower + Desynchro, the deck is gonna suffer under Links. Their only power play was Lightflare + Lightshower or Double Lightshower, which ain't happening under Links without opening Soul Charge.
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All of the upcoming new sets will be garbage because konami knows that powercreeping past zoo and true draco will make the game unplayable. Without set rotations there is no way to control powercreep while also selling new cards. We'll be able to avoid the problem with the banlist for a while, but eventually something will need to be done.
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>>182399089
>dinos weren't meta during zoo
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Back to /tg/ with you, epic bait man of many (You)s.

Share cardfus instead.
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>>182449161
>against Zoo

>NS Denko
>Drancia'd
>attack opponent's Drancia
>Viper'd and the lock break

>NS Leg
>doesn't matter if it gets Drancia'd
>Leg can attack Drancia to bait Viper

There.
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alright, alright, you convinced me, i will play this until the end of zoo format kek
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Since Subterror/SPYRAL are getting Links what would it be like if
>Noble Knight got a Link
>Burning Abyss got a Link
>U.A. got a Link
>Kozmo got a Link
>Kaiju got a Link
Not that any but SPYRAL/Subterror are getting Links because it's just to make Extra Pack 2017 more appealing.
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>>182450980
meant for
>>182450687

>>182450605
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>>182451039
>NKs
Who fucking cares
>BA
Could finally be decent again
>UAs
I mean what purpose would it serve? What we need is another L4 or lower
>Kozmo
Again what purpose
>Kaiju
>>>>>>>>having more than 1 Kaiju out
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>>182451189
>I mean what purpose would it serve? What we need is another L4 or lower
It's a generic vanilla Link-1 with Up arrow that just need an EARTH Warrior as material.
But it's U.A. so you can use it to summon U.A. from hand.

You can only link summon it OPT though.
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>>182451416
>use it to special summon a UA from hand
>return to hand
>extra deck monster
I don't think you understand how this game works.
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>>182451039
>>182451189
The better question is, why would you want any of that?
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>>182451546
>https://www.db.yugioh-card.com/yugiohdb/faq_search.action?ope=5&fid=13601&keyword=&tag=-1&request_locale=ja
>Q: What happens if I target Holly Angel with Lyco
>A: Lyco summoned and Holly Angel returned to ED normally
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>>182451189
>>>>>>>>>having more than 1 Kaiju out
>implying the new Kaiju link isn't going to use 2 of your opponent's monsters as material as well as having link markers pointing to your zones
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>>182451986
That's part of an effect, and it doesn't return as cost. This is more of a Birdman situation, retard.
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>>182451189
>Again what purpose
>destroy 1 Kozmo in hand/field to SS/search Kozmo with diff attribute or level or something
There.
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>just want to play some tags with my shitty performapal petdeck
>80% of the games are the opponents using true draco or windwitch eidolons and my partner quits or doesn't do anything
>only the remaining 20% are decent games
Fucking hell.
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>>182451997
>a better kaiju that doesn't brick
This would be even more cancerous than maxx c.
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>>182452104
Ruling or gtfo
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>>182452320
>he thinks Konami gives official rulings
lmfao do you realise what region you're in
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>>182452365
Asia
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>>182371336
Aesir
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how the fuck am i supposed to thin this
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>>182452320
Stop these crops or gtfo
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>>182452423
Why are you posting somewhere meant for TCG then you illiterate gook?
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>>182451734
>why would you want support for an archetype you like
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>>182452446
by fucking off
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>>182452470
Why did you think OCG is listed first in the OP?
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>>182452448
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It's simple! We violate Ixchel... in her pure bare ASS!
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shut up fags
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>>182453256
>Ixchel
who
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>>182430717
True dracos are not going to get touched much if at all in the tcg until after all their stuff gets reprinted. Until then people will panic in sept when the deck doesnt get hit and drive up the prices of diagram and masterpiece.
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>>182453492
fuck off faggot
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>>182453503
Hush anon.
Let the price drops more before spreading shit like that.
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>>182452446
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>>182453492
Funny, that's the same answer I expect from the next guy when I ask about Northwenko
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>>182454649
>Northwemko
who
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>>182433216
Don't you DARE censor her KoA
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>>182442830
Level 6 has HTS Psyhemuth, Metaphys Horus (very good in Pendulums), Charge Warrior, and Vulcan the Divine.
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>>182455318
>Metaphys Horus
Holy crap!
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>>182434226
BriFu?
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>>182452541
Why would you like those archetypes?
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>>182455820
Brilliant Fusion.
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>>182455859
Because I can
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>>182435506
>NS Caspar, activates Ariadne, Caspar search Death-Perado
I forgot pendulums got moved to the S&T zones.
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>>182456058
Goddamn Germany, now you're going too far in the other direction.
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>>182456573
>when you ruin europe for the 3rd time in 100 years
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What can Konami do to make Qlibros good again?
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>>182458216
Unlimit Scout, Saqlifice, Skill Drain and Vanity's
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>>182458216
>bro
>mono
free in ocg and do nothing
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Why the new Six Samurai support is so awful?

Even Red-Eyes is better than this garbage deck in the Master Rule 4.
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>>182458394
It was designed in the OCG where Gateway is at 3. So they probably designed it while trying to prevent creating any new loops or combos involving Gateway.
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>>182458394
Too much PTSD
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>>182458836
Why not design them to enable loops and combos with Gateway?
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>>182459216
I guarantee if they did you'd be whining about Gateway being an instant win
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>>182459216
I guess they're still pretending that they care about making degenerate cards for now, so they're making them trash instead.

>>182459473
Isn't that true of most all meta decks though?
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>>182456573

But isn't merkel a conservative?
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>>182456418
>pendulums got moved to the S&T zones.
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>>182458394
The support isn't that bad. Genba replaces Kagemusha completely, and Fuhma makes True King Samurai a very viable thing.
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>>182462423
Because True King is viable
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>>182459736
she was considered right wing until the refugee decision which was very left wing of her, normally she adhered strictly to the center and did very little.

to keep it yugioh related, please enjoy this image deeply, as this is the anime player of altergeists, ghost girl:
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>>182462524
the field spell very much is which is what the synergy is, so yes it is.
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>>182463304
Is the anime any good?
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>performapal odd-eyes synchron still isn't on ygopro
WHY, PERCY
IF YOU WON'T GIVE ME LINKS AT LEAST GIVE ME THIS
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>>182463380
I think he was more talking about the fact that Diagram is going to be dead in nip land soon, and will likely be dead here too by the time they get here.
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>>182463527
They said the coding for that card works a bit different, so it will only be added with links. Meaning you only get dissolver while that
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>>182463483
off to a worse start than arc-v but that might be a good thing as arc v tanked near the middle and end.

current duel/episode is fairly hype and its quite watchable.

>>182463539
could also do metalphose or sky iris or fire king
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>>182463681
Damnit. What makes it different than plenty of other cards?
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>>182463710
>worse start than arc-v
Considering that the start of arc-v was pretty good, I guess it's worth watching, at least it's a better background noise than podcasts.
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>>182463804
Considering Dissolver is already in and Meteorburst is in it for ages, it's probably the pendulum effect that treats monsters as level 1 tuners
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>>182463893
it does seem worth watching but it takes a bit to start

and yeah arc v had a great start
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>>182442683
>Having troubles at all with battletraps
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>>182447164
A single strike and im out
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If you use the effect of a field spell then play the same field spell that turn to replace the initial one can you use the effect again?
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>>182466905
If it says "Once per turn:" then yes. If it says "You can only use this effect once per turn." then no.
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>>182466883
You have an MST. Snipe it.
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>>182467042
Thank you
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>>182463304

yeah but she still opposes gay marriage, that's why it took so long for germany to legalize it okay last post sorry
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>>182431064

SPYRALS get links but U.A that literally play sports in cyber gear don't get links (for now)
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>>182467075
Well, i went second and my 6th card was another MST, but my opponent had no backrow. Funny how that play became a leo dancer otk. But shit's still a brick
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>>182468472
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHkKJfcBXcw
>>
fuck off
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>>182468472
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-zyfxzihqA
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>>182468472
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH2-TGUlwu4
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Can someone explain why people play Luna in pendulum magicians?
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>>182466714
Nigga you've no idea how many wins I've sacked off this card
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>>182468472
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk-TjQ2DF4M&index=2&list=PLMsFR-IuG_7Edbn_LSDG5NW3RjgNxOp8N
The entire soundtrack, I guess.
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>>182469023
"Once per turn (Quick Effect): You can target 1 face-up monster your opponent controls; your opponent can send 1 card with that monster's name from their Deck or Extra Deck to the GY to negate this effect, otherwise return both this card and that monster to the hand." is very similar to "During either player's turn: You can target 1 Pendulum Monster in your Monster Zone and 1 monster your opponent controls; return them to the hand(s)."
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>>182469239
So it's just a worse Kirin?
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>>182469023
shittier Kirin
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>>182468832
hey that's pretty comfy anon, reminds me of Ne Obliviscaris, Opeth, and Apocalypse Orchestra what deck?
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>>182469287
its 50/50, she more or less brings a copy of herself and if you use kaijus with Luna, you can take away the kaiju your opponent might be playing or you get your kaiju back just to pendulum summon again two Lunas and use the kaiju for whatever else
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>>182469023
another lv4 Spellcaster, searches self, bounce
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>>182469287
Pretty much. Also searchers copies of itself, so it's like Kirin and Bunbuku combined and it's level 4.
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>>182469402
Windwitch Majespecter Speedroid Metalfoes.
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>>182468472
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGyugYwuY5M
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I need a new deck, someone suggest me somethign
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>>182469820
zoo pendulum magicians
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>>182469820
Genex
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>>182469820
Timelord Cyber Angels
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>>182458216
>design this card with balance in mind having you draw at the end phase like numerous other cards before it to balance power level

>konami decides that logic and critical thinking is too slow and gave us True Draco Heritage
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>>182470090
>what is power creep?
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>search pendulum fusion with duelist alliance
>pendulum summon with violet poison and double iris as scales
>make your board
>pendulum fusion for starve venom
Why isn't this card used more?
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>>182470498
Its unnecessary and we don't have SKSD Starve venom
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>>182470208
Do we really need more with the way the game is designed at this rate? They have enough failures to look back on to build decks. As well as other longer running card games to take inspiration from that made those mistakes.
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>>182468472
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMsxw_u8664
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>>182470583
You motherfucking idiot
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>>182466883
>this guy still plays mst.
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>>182470870

Yes. If the next cards aren't as powerful as the last ones then they won't be sold.
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>>182471246
That was an old screenshot, i just added 1 mst, 1 cosmic cyclone and 1 twin twister, the MST stays by the pure virtue its a combo enabler on my deck
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>>182471246
Not him but MST can destroy your own Lunalight Tiger and trigger it's effect.
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>>182449523
>cardians
>often unplayable turn 1
How? Are you running the brick stuff that can only be summoned by tributing a specific cardian?
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>>182471546
Just the Tuner. But it's like Monarchs, sure you're theoretically extremely consistent, but you can still open a hand of big dudes with no draw power/little dudes.
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>>182471398
>>182471401

Gotcha, post came off kinda dickish but i ccan see the reasoning now.
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>>182471719
No problem, i can understand why someone would prefer me to run cosmic cylone or TT because of how the current meta plays. Although when i just used two MST's, i ALWAYS side decked them for the cosmic cyclones when i was against True Draco. But then i decided "fuck it" and im running one of each
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>>182471546
Speaking of those bastards. I have no idea what's going on when i face them. Don't even know when i should use snow or or ash.
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Why do the jewtubers have such a nostalgia boner for goat format?
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shadow duels when?
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>>182472053
"muh skill"
"muh innovating deckbuilding"
"muh slower format"
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>>182472053

heavily skill-based format, it's why it doesn't get talked about much here
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>>182472053
Its like pokemon Stall but with more actual choices.
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What do you expect from the Surge of Radience remake? We'll probably see something for it in V jump.
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>>182471301
The problem I have with Konami is that they use both power creep *and* the banlist to force you to buy now product.
I mean, I'm fine with that, they gotta make their money. But if the old cards are already effectively neutered by the banlist, you don't *need* to make the new cards strictly better to get people to buy it; their old shit's already banned.

I'm okay with some powercreep but the current rate is ridiculous.
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How's my PSCT on this?
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>>182470498
Isn't it kinda expensive?
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>>182472053
It's an ironic meme. No, I'm not joking or putting out a meme on my own. It's the funny contrarian thing to say you like when someone asks you, like being lolsorandom. It's not even a tiny bit different from the guy who responds to everything with Cloudians.
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>>182472636
Counter fairies tier 1
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>>182472705
You don't need the "while this card if face-up" bit, it's kinda implied via the trap being face-up.
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>>182472704

the banlist is to stop it from happening too fast. imagine if they had to power creep over dragons instead of just banning them, the game would be nothing but FTKs by now.
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>>182472723
it's like $8 last time i checked, but it really is the only decent card that came from its set
if that's expensive to you then get a job
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>>182472048
Use Ghost Ogre on the Level 6 Tuner Synchro (assuming you're an imaginary format pleb), and save Ash for Flower Gathering.
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>>182472941
I see, thank you. I'm an ESL piece of trash and I should've known that was superfluous to the card but I guess pattern recognition won out in my lizard brain.
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>>182472963
>assuming you're an imaginary format pleb
Why do you say this?
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>>182471657
>you can still open a hand of big dudes
But that's the exception, and not the usual. You should also consider running full sets of those cardians, since it will increase the chances that the deck will keep running. 3 more cardians is 10% more chances of getting another cardian with 30 cards in your deck.

>>182472048
Barely matters when you use it, probably the most efficient way would be to stop them from summoning a tuner, but not even the cardian player knows what he is going to end up with at the end of the turn.
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>>182472962
Im in university, bro. I kinda have to wait 4 years before that. Then I'll build a deck with the price of a gaming pc
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>>182472943
But banning Rulers already accomplished the goal of preventing people from just sticking to their old decks. If anything that's the perfect example; after the Dragons were fully dead we had HAT format which was quite a signifcant step down in powerlevel. But people still played new product like Mermyleo & the Artifacts because they were the strongest of the then-current cardpool.
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>>182472636
Sanctuary in the sky that actually does more for fairies.Parshath retrains that aren't too hard to get out and are useful.Possibly a revamp of the lp gain mechanic that actually does something.
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>>182473234
The problem is the only non-restricted Cardians left to run are the L8 and 12, and both are fairly garbage. I only run 2 so that I don't draw one and have a dead Gathering.
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>>182472723
It's two bucks
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>>182473186
I was referring to this card
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Flower_Cardian_Moonflower
The only way you're seeing this nigga is either if you live in an OCG area (unlikely) or play on YGOPro
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>>182473581
I meant more the pleb part
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>>182471657
>triple allure in a deck that can draw itself out
>triple gathering but only two paulowania and zebra grass

C'mon son
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>>182473186
Because Moonflower still isn't out in the TCG.
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>>182473729
You need the draw power to fix dead hands, Allure is the best generic draw card.

I specifically run 2 of each so I don't draw one and have dead Gatherings. Running more than 2 is bad because they themselves are fucking garbage.
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>>182473865
You run triple super koi to fix dead hands dingus
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>>182473324
I actually quite like L8 Susuki, since it can change my hand in case I have too many/no tuners.
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>>182473958
Super Koi Koi has been fairly shit in my testings, it's even more RNG on not killing you/banishing important spells.
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>>182473729
>not running triple allure when there is 24 targets
?
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I love mermails. Sad the new support is shit. They aren't too good in this format but im doing ok with them on pro running a kaiju variant on pro.
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>>182474025
Cardians is a deck that either you go full Cardian or you will brick hard. Although super koi koi will get much better when they release moonflower.
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>>182474321
>when they release Moonflower
Ahahahahahaha I'm sorry anon but since she wasn't in BTTL we're not gonna get her for MONTHS to come. Just another card to add to my "Big List of Shit I Want That's Not Imported"
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>>182471657
I'm not updated on the meta, but why is there a Snow in there? Does it solve some meta problem by itself?
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>>182474482
If you draw her off a Cardian, she ends up in grave for disruption on the next turn.
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>>182474025
It's mainly there so you can get out a cardian that sates zebras hand requirements so he can unbrick you. Banished cardians hurt way worse than a banished soul charge or rota.

>>182474045
They really don't need it.
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>>182433216
When you waifufagotry this hard...
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>>182474847
who are you responding to
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>>182474847
What?
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>>182474589
Wouldn't it be better to just run another cardian in her place? I think summoning a stronger synchro is worth more than having a snow in the grave. Also, if you reveal her early, it may put your whole deck to a stop.
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>>182475141
It's just a random one-off, and there aren't really any other Cardians I'd rather run than the ones I have at the ratios I have.
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>>182455052
Censored ;)
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>>182472053
or its backrow or hand traps, you choose
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>>182476148
Sure, whatever you say. Nice English, by the way.
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>>182475141
There are too many other cardians and summoning anything other than cardians is tricky since as soon as you SS one from the hand, you're locked into the archetype
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>>182476148
is this an obtuse monkey joke?
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>>182440523
But why would people play bad decks with so much SSing when Maxx "c" is at 3 in the OCG?
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>>182477343
>implying a side deck card is a reason to not play any special summon heavy deck
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>>182477343
Not to mention both Macro Cosmos and Fissure being at 3.
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>>182477178
Ignore the pic, the post was about thr low sales meme genius...
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>>182477681
>Maxx "C"
>A side deck card
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>>182477857
>true dracos
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>>182416409
They've done cards that are meant to be Lucifer before.
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>>182478031
like he said
>Maxx "C"
>A side deck card

You're incredibly dumb and can't read a pie chart.
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>>182425058
Then what would the point of Link monsters be? What would be the point of their arrows then?
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>>182478421
The darklord bosss is literally Lucifer
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So guys, I know that people are usually joking when they say this, but seriously - pic related is excellent non-targeting removal. Why is nobody running it?
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>>182478569
They still have effects regarding stuff they're pointing to: Link Spider can still grant an SS, Honeybot still prevents targetting/battle destruction, etc.
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as a returning player,what is a good way to get stapples? i've tried trading in my locals but nobody really had them and the whale with a big ass binder did not want to sell anything i asked for,even a utopia because it wasn't "expensive enough"
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>>182479269

>when a monster is sent from the field to your graveyard
>why aren't people running this
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>>182479269
Because it actually does target, and we're not in the glacial format that is duel links.
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>>182479505

Money can be exchanged for goods and services.
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So Spirit Warriors is a shit set. What was the last good set the OCG got? They even have a shit extra pack coming out that has Konami panicking.
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I can't believe konami believes theyr own meme.
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>>182477841
>>182480315
>meme
Proof?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEjEJzHg0j4
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>>182479763
ffs i just noticed that,i meant to say buying,the only thing i got was a cheap gagaga cowboy.
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>>182479217
>>182478421
>>182416409
Actually, according to Dante's Inferno, that would be more Satan than Lucifer. Lucifer may or may not be literally Satan, but the former describes the Fallen Angel and the later the Adversary. In Dante's Inferno, "It" is seen as a monstruous giant demon, frozen in the 9th Circle.

If he was once as handsome as he now

is ugly and, despite that, raised his brows

against his Maker, one can understand

how every sorrow has its source in him!

I marveled when I saw that, on his head,

he had three faces: one – in front – bloodred;

and then another two that, just above

the midpoint of each shoulder, joined the first…

Beneath each face of his, two wings spread out,

as broad as suited so immense a bird:

I’ve never seen a ship with sails so wide.

They had no feathers, but were fashioned like

a bat’s; and he was agitating them,

so that three winds made their way out from him –

and all Cocytus froze before those winds.

He wept out of six eyes; and down three chins,

tears gushed together with a bloody froth.

Within each mouth – he used it like a grinder –

with gnashing teeth he tore to bits a sinner,

so that he brought much pain to three at once. (Inf. XXXIV, 34-57)
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seek help
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>>182481470
cont.
therefore, since he lost all his angelic attributes, it would be more accurate to call him Satan rather than Lucifer the light bringing.
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>>182481470
This reminds me that there was one bishop that was named literally Lucifer. One can think that naming somebody with a name that dangerous may be not good. But, in the end he was pretty devoted to God and Jesus.
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>>182480398
Think a bit anon, since the new archetypes cant powercreep true dracos Eidolons and ABC; the new sets arent sold.
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https://ygorganization.com/ocg-07112017-ocg-japan-china-decklists/

>These fucking decklist
>Qliphort
>Satellarknight
>ABC
>Infernoid
>Masked HERO
>Plant Debris Dandy (What a cluster fuck)
>Fucking Dark Magician
>Phantasm Frog Paleozoic
>Rock Anti-Meta

Are we truly free from the zoo shit?
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>>182482019
>>Phantasm Frog Paleozoic
Read closer, that was a 6 player meme locals
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>>182482243
I mean to also put, what a cluster fuck next to that decklist too.

But either way is zoo on its way out?
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>>182481790
well there is two main schools of thoughts on Lucifer, The First is the most known one, Lucifer is a angel that betrayed god, felt to hell, and became Satan, "The Adversary".
The second, followed by edgelords, is seeing Lucifer as a being akin to Prometheus who gave knowledge and free will to mankind, and was punished by God for it. He is viewed here as "The Light Bringer" and encourage men to basically not be betas. The Darklord artwork correlates more to the 2dn description btw
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>>182479505
Bulk buy off cardmarket or TCGplayer
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/bread/
>>182483060

>>182483060
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>>182482243
I wish my 6 player meme locals got published
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>>182482019
>listing on a shitton of locals that didn't even had 10 players
>maxx c is still tier 0
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>>182482510
Well, the second one feel less offensive, that's a fact.
Still, is weird seeing that there are things like that.
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>>182482019
Glad Spellbooks are seeing some play, even if it is only as a draw engine.

>>182482397
Zoo is deader than dead in the OCG. Without Bullhorn there is nothing the deck can do.
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>>182479425
And the ones that DON'T have an effect based on what they're pointing to?
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>>182481426

Is there any reason you can figure out how to post on 4chan but can't figure out how to buy things on the internet?
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bravo
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>>182485659
>>182485659
>>182485659


Congratulations, also I fucked up.
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>>182483170
kek
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>>182484930
Because thereps a law in my country that limits how much i can buy from the exterior,and because im stupid enough to get scammed.
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