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YGO General #2545
Blurry Checklist Edition
Last Thread >>181953161

● YGOPro is an automated simulator.
>YGOPro (Windows): http://www.mediafire.com/file/nlcz47swc8bl4af/ygopro-1.033.D-Percy.exe
>YGOPro (Mac): http://www.mediafire.com/file/6vvclua195urlb9/ygopro-1.033.D-Percy.dmg
>High Quality YGOPro Images: https://mega.nz/#F!3xRSSZLD!n5HAXjFTVV8g-ha3I_5SsA
>Manual Card Updates (place inside the expansions folder): https://github.com/Ygoproco/Live2017
● Duelingbook is a manual simulator
https://www.duelingbook.com/

Useful Links:
>Current Official Rulebook: http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/rulebook/EN_SDSE_Rulebook.pdf
>Wiki with a wealth of information for the players: http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
>Official /dng/ ruling test: https://testmoz.com/466984
>Hypergeometric Probability Calculator: http://yugioh.party/
>Yu-Gi-Oh! stock market: http://yugiohprices.com/

>OCG decklists:
http://blog.livedoor.jp/yugioh_tpr/
https://ocg.xpg.jp/v/deck/event.html
>TCG decklists:
http://yugiohtopdecks.com/decklists

>TCG/OCG news sites:
https://ygorganization.com/
http://blog.livedoor.jp/maxut/

Upcoming Sets:
●OCG: Circuit Break (July 8th)
●OCG: Deck Build Pack: Spirit Warriors (August 11st)
●OCG: Extra Pack 2017 (September 9th)
●OCG: Structure Deck R: Surge of Divine Radiance (September 23rd)
●OCG: Extreme Force (October 14th)

●TCG: Pendulum Evolution (June 23rd)
●TCG: Battles of Legend: Light's Revenge (July 7th)
●TCG: Starter Deck: Link Strike (July 21st)
●TCG: Code of Duelist (August 4th)
●TCG: 2017 Mega-Tins (August 25th)
●TCG: Legendary Duelists (September 8th)
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1st for ban raigeki unban feather duster
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Who's commentating along side Jerome McHale?
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The newbie faggot that wants to play Blackshit from the other thread.

What should I know about the game?
I have been out since 2014.
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>>182072182
go away KoJ
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>>182072183
Also, why are the duelists mic'd for sound? You could hear the magician player ask about shuffle reborn "why too fucking late"
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>>182072263
Well first off Blackwings got one of the best Tuners in the game right now but hilariously it's used better outside of Blackwing decks (look up Gofu the Vague Shadow).
Gale got put back to 3 so that's nice. So did Allure of Darkness which is really helpful.
Blackwings also got a fuckton of support since you left the game but most of it sucks, so look through them all and see what you'd want to play.
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>TT is still at 1
>Raigeki 1 and DH 2

On what planet does this make any sense?
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>people unironically downplaying the power of monster reborn
top cuck
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>>182072501
Oh thanks.
Hmm what about everything else?
Like the Link and shit?
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Would Super Poly at 1 be THAT harmful?
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>>182072518
something something traps are bad and we are not allowed to have any decent ones
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>>182072518
Don't question KoA or they'll ban a random card which is key to your favorite deck.
>Kaiser Coliseum
>Chicken Game
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>>182072518
Compulse, bottomless, DH, torrential freed when
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>>182072698
IMO no.
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>>182072641
Its above average my man. Thats all
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>>182072698
Metalfoes would have a fieldtrip with it
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>>182072641
Shhh you will get bombarded by 20 samefags dicksucking OCG
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>people are going to pay the Link paywall
If you let Konami die, this will never happen again, but you are all such cucks that you are encouraging it.
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What are your expectations for the CotD Ritual exclusive/archetype besides
>Shit
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>>182072641
>opponent activates Monster Reborn to bring back his stupid monster
>flip this
>banish the entire graveyard and summon Dark Magician and attack for game
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>>182072741
Chicken Game being banned is fine since it was used in all those shitty FTK's and it's a disgusting card anyways.
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>>182072984
If it is a single one, generic.
Otherwise, The new Kaiju.
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>>182072957
I love Links though.
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>>182072829
Good taste
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>>182072518
yes please, Torrential at 3 would be great for stun decks. Bottomless & Compulse at 3 and Solemn Judgment at 1 while we're at it.
Also limit Strike and D-Barrier
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>>182073154
>virgin killer sweater
My cardfu still hasn't gotten that!
Also, Miku is just flat, not anorexic.
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>>182072984
vania tie-in
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>>182073265
Wokada's Miku is an upgraded Miku.
>visible ribs means anorexic
lol go away fatty
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>>182073224
This.
D-Barrier exists and cucks are complaining about HFD and Super poly? It stuns the game on point and assures that if you have it and start the opponent is guaranteed not to be able to react
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>>182073154
Why?
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>>182072641
>people already forgot the days of topdecking Reborn, reviving your opponent's dead BLS and swinging for game
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>>182072263
>2014

AYY LMAO

My friend who likes Crystal Beasts is still bootyblasted this hasn't come to burger land.
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>>182073405
visible ribs are god tier
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>>182073087
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https://ygorganization.com/cotd-op05-confirmed-cards-na-wcq-stream/

List of rarities from CotD confirming what we already know
>Secret Trickstar Holly Angel
Pay up
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>>182072662
Blackwings will be alright post-Links. Gofu will actually become usable in the deck then; though honestly I don't see him staying at 3 in the TCG for long.
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>>182073426
I like the new rules and I like the Link mechanics and focus on card placement that the game is getting lately. For example cards like Shut Line.
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>>182073405
>>182073475
Miku is not a fish though.
Luka on the other hand.
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>>182073613
Sorry, I only know who Miku is because of how popular she is. Who is Luka?
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>>182073265
>miku
>flat and anorexic
this is why you waifu sucks
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>>182072263
>2014
AYY LMAO

My friend who likes Crystal Beasts is still bootyblasted that this and Over the Rainbow still hasn't come to burger land
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>>182073613
I wasn't aware trash was a type of fish
I jest
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>>182073426
Not him, but my favourite decks are either completely unaffected or actually boosted by Links.
also super pumped for Crawlers
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>>182073749
flat and anorexic is a god tier combination though
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>>182073721
Another VOCALOID.
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>>182073428
Remember when BLS was called broken and everybody swore he and CED could never be unbanned?

Now here we are in 2017 with Japan having 3 BLS and 3 CED and nobody uses them at all.
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>>182073786
post build
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I don't wanna browse or post on reddit to ask for an answer to this question.
I'm playing Yang Zing Dinos. If I activate Baxia, targeting another Yang Zing and Oviraptor in the grave, can I choose in what order their effects activate to prevent the Yang Zing from missing timing on their floating effects?
On another note, will Chiwen summon itself in another chain after the effects resolve, or in the same chain?
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>>182073896
It's almost as if CED got an errata you intentionally misleading fuck
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>>182073831
Oh, okay. The only volcaloid related thing I've ever listened to was some vocaloid/shoegaze album.
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>>182073812
yeah and miku isnt anything like that
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>> fuck182073509(you)
Not even worth of my time
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>>182074000
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Simultaneous_Effects_Go_On_Chain

Read up boy
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>>182073812
t. gay
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>>182074032
But BLS is still at full power from 2004 and is at 3 but still sees no use, even the BLS archetype(lol) isn't even being played despite it being able to search him easily.

P O W E R C R E E P E D
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>>182074196
This though. If anything, Rin is the flat and anorexic, the classic one, not the future.
Len is still better
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>>182073760
>never get the OCG support that would make them at least playable
>lose 2 spell slots

Has their even been a more JUST deck than CBs?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmFeE9L-r5g

In case you wanna watch the stream with Gouki Vs Trickstar currently for some reason.
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>>182072957
You know if konami dies no more yugioh right, if you want yugioh dead then why not leave this thread and forget yugioh is a thing?
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xth for me and my wife
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>>182074521
if konami dies someone else will buy yugioh
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>>182074338
BLS also got an errata
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>>182074583
>morningstar
>waifu
anon...
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>>182074615
i hope gorror's dad buys yugioh
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>>182074472
>Gouki opening Marauding into Chameleon
Why

>>182074583
Wife (male)
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>>182074615
and you'd think someone else will handle the game better?
I will just repeat what i said, leave this thread and forget about yugioh
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>>182074779
im not that same poster
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>>182074472
>CotH retrain is a rare

Oh shit
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>>182074363
Great taste.
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>>182074363
>>182074950
>shota
At least post the one that is not a trap
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>>182074615
I hope percy buys ygo, anyway he still can makw what is actually doing.
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>>182075131
>len
>a trap
nigga what
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>>182074656
>>182074684
that's literally me you dummies, she wasn't feeling well for this thread so she couldn't join

>>182073039
>EACH players's field
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>>182073896
>>182074338
Both BLS and CED are still extremely solid cards even post-errata. The only reason we don't see them is because there just aren't any decks that can summon them without jumping through some hoops.
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>>182075265
Wait, isn't that the clothes of the LS or she is just using holy outfits?
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>>182075265
Obviously you need to have first used Gandora to destroy all his monsters, and that have it get destroyed by one of his effects.
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>wcq turned off twitch chat
>hour of breaks between games
Why is konami so bad at streaming? Surely there must be something worth streaming between rounds?
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>>182074647
No it didn't you fucking retard. No wonder you shitters like links, you can't even read!
>>182074663
>buying a dead game
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>>182075684
>No wonder you shitters like links
lol wtf
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>>182074924
I'm glad most the Gouki are Super or lower so I can actually build the deck in real life. Feel bad for Trickstar player though with rarity bumps up the ass.

Gouki Vs World Chalice (World Legacy) now
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>>182075464
the light effects makes it difficult to differentiate black and white on her outfit, it's actually a mix of both so the artist probably made a mistake desu. Ain't even mad, she's still a cute with draw power and grave setup

>>182075471
>lvl 7 or more
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>>182076105
Yes, Gandora does in fact have a level of 7 or more.
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>>182075938
>feeling bad for trickstar players

>>182076240
The opponent must control a level 7 or more too if i'm not mistaken?
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>>182075263
I have seen some very girly Len screenshots from the Diva games, unfortunately for the purposes of giving an example I do not have them saved cause that's probably what was being refered to if I were to guess
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>>182076306
>first used Gandora to destroy all his monsters
Presumably there was a Level 8 or something on his field.
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>>182076306
I despise burn decks but having a OCG common go to a TCG secret always sucks.
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>>182076306
>feeling bad for trickstar players
What about people like me who have no interest in playing the deck but need them for my collection?
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>>182077749
>collection
Collectors are the fucking worst
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>>182077749
>I don't play them, I just collect them
Then you have nothing to worry about dummy. >>182077915
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>>182078091
Except for the price of the cards.
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when is ygopro going to add links
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>>182079081
december
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>>182073896
BLS is just waiting to be abused. Chaos decks suck right now but if that ever changes you'll see everyone whining to ban him again
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>>182077749
>collecting the most weebish archetype of YGO history
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>>182079081
When they update the AI
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>>182079081
>>182079081
>when is ygopro going to kill itself
Ftfy
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>>182079765
Wouldn't that be SS or Bujins?

>>182081005
What?
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>>182072641
Monster Reborn is just a worse Redox.
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>>182072641
>he says when it's mediocre at best
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>>182081143
Pro won't be played anymore once links get put in. No one wants to play a paywall
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>>182081407
Source on Percy charging for a free open-source program with multiple supported versions?
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>tfw all the stream inbetweens are just the same boring Gouki/Trickstar/World Chalice over and over
When are we going to get news on the exclusives
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>>182082008
Konami is being strangely silent on the TCG exclusives besides Houndhorde. I imagine we will have to wait for set leaks to see the new TCG exclusive archetypes.
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>>182083124
When they are really silent... it is not good or they don't know what the fuck they have to say?
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>>182083248
No way to know really. I think maybe after the large disappointment that they created with SPYRAL and Subterror they don't want to hype these ones up. According to another guy on here, there was a rumor that the OCG is worried that the Extra Pack this year is going to be a flop due to the two archetypes not being nearly as good as in the previous Extra Packs.
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>>182073087
SpaceDogoran?
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>>182083124
>the new TCG exclusive archetypes.
Assuming there are any
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>>182083735
Are we getting exclusive single cards or archetypes?
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>>182083248
>>182083735
It might also be that they want to prioritize shilling Links and the new rules over new TCG exclusive archetypes. That wouldn't explain why we don't even have names or any other sort of news on them besides the check lists.
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>>182083849
Look at the blurry checklist in the OP. 082-085 look like they start with the same word, and 086-089 look like they start with the same 2 letter prefix. Those are the spots where TCG exclusive archetypes go.
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>>182083124
>>182083248
They already know there's a backlash against links. They want to make money off the clueless idiots who have no idea what they are first.
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>>182084128
Sure anon, whatever you say.
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Are the new RR cards out yet? Collecting them all is all I care about now.
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>>182084447
Maybe, but it won't be as effective this time due to the sour taste a lot of players still have from the previous TCG exclusives.
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>>182084653
It's not like they've been following this pattern for years or anything
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Is there a non-shit flip archetype besides Shadolls and Subterrors?
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>>182084447
>They already know there's a backlash against links.
Only you and your samefags, fuck off
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>>182084669
Rudder Strix came out 2 days ago.
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>>182084670
Well it looks dark and edgy like BA so it'll probably be busted as fuck too
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>>182084837
Whatever you say.

>>182084931
Your delusion is funny.
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>>182085021
Your delusion is funnier. It's sad you can't play your shitty pendulum deck anymore but you need to stop.
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>>>182085126
It's sad you got brainwashed by Konami and can't see what's wrong with this image.
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>>182085019
The sneak peek promo hasn't been related to the TCG exclusive archetypes since Noble Knights. So while it's not impossible, it's not very likely.
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>>182085224
>ocg
i sleep
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>>182084128
Newfag here, is there a previous set list I can see so I can tell what each color and number the items in OP are supposed to be?
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>>182072090
The way it looks, the ritual exclusive and the next three cards may be from one same archetype.
But that's just an idea.
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>It's an Iron Core thinks he's good at Yu-Gi-Oh! Episode but brings chain burn to the Nebraska regional and loses first round assuring his playtesting was good
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>>182085271
Looking at it super close makes it look like Vendread has an "archetype" in its effect, but its so blurry it's not even worth mentioning.

>>182085340
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Maximum_Crisis
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>>182085014
Final Fortress too. Glad it's not as shit as the anime version.
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>>182085224
BUT YOU TOLD ME DDD WAS DEAD
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>>182085224
>ABC
what the fuck happened?
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>>182085126
Nice baseless assumption there.

>>182085304
What?

>>182085723
Field to 2.
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>>182085463
>>182085340
Was trying to find a closer up one of Maximum Crisis, but I can't find it anywhere.

OP is
>81 Generic Monster
>82 Ritual Monster
>83 Monster
>84 Spell
>85 Trap
>86 Monster
>87 Monster
>88 Spell
>89 Spell
>90 imports start
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>>182085224
Not him but I don't see it. Why is a bad meta related to a "backlash" by the players?
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>>182086017
no links at all. zero. none. nada.
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>>182086065
That doesn't answer my question at all.
That just shows links aren't powerful right now, not that the players don't play links because they are "protesting" against them or something.
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>>182085973
>82 Ritual Monster
>83 Monster
>84 Spell
>85 Trap
How much of a chance have this spots to be an "archetype" for one fucking ritual?
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>>182086226
They look like they all start with the same word. Plus the TCG exclusive archetypes usually aren't fully playable on their own after just the first wave of support.
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>>182085224
>D/D/D back in the game
>Zoodiacs nowhere to be seen
>Fucking ABC despite having Hangar limited over there
I don't see anything wrong except that the true draco percentage should show the wind witches and invoked too
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>>182086212
You are one dumb cuckold, though that's hardly surprising.
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>>182085723
Master Rule 4 happened.
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>>182086212
The protesting is not buying any of the new cards at all and saving your money. It is literal boycotting.
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>>182086525
Well then fucking explain it to me, retard.

>>182086713
>implying competitive players aren't going to play the best decks for some dumb "boycotting"
You are extremely delusional unless you have some kind of source.
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>>182086493
Why would you want old shit that has no right to be there?
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>>182086493
>doesn't see anything wrong
>all the cards in the image are from January and before
>We are in July
>5 months of no sales of cards
The game is about to die honey.
>>182086808
The source is literally the image you retard. The best decks are only the best decks because the link paywall killed off anything reliant on the extra deck spam. Not even links can sell links.
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>>182075938
I'm still upset about Grails (sorry, CHALICE) and their inevitable Vanquisher of the Vanishering.
also it's Eve, not Ib
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>>182085224
>24 decks from 3 tournaments held within 4 days.

Nice sample size there, like barely weekly results are good representation of the game state.
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>>182087006
>The source is literally the image you retard. The best decks are only the best decks because the link paywall killed off anything reliant on the extra deck spam. Not even links can sell links.

How the FUCK does that mean the players are """"boycotting""""" konami? Holy shit you are one dumb motherfucker.
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>>182087006
>Still constantly raving and ranting while constantly pointing at the image trying to say it means something that isn't there like a lunatic
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>>182086713

not buying something because you just don't want it is not a boycott
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>>182087253
>>182087283
Stop taking the bait.
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>>182086469
So... this means that the Ritual may not be generic like the other ones?
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>>182087289
That is the definition of a boycott you retard. Why don't you go to Japan and see for yourself how much everyone hates the current year of the game.
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>>182087253
Do you know what boycotting means you dumb motherfucker?
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>>182087346
But i'm bored because TCG refuses to show us any news about the CotD exclusives.
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>>182087383
Right. The Ritual is 082. 081 is the spot where Konami has been putting generic TCG exclusives, and this time it's a regular effect monster (Not Vendread Houndhorde though, that one is EN-000).
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>people so mad about links killing their shitty petdecks they have to imagine a different reality where everyone else also hates them
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>>182086493
Didn't it get semi'd recently?
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>>182087537
Clearly you don't.
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>>182087458

no it's not
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>>182085224
>75% of all meta is True Draco or Dinos
>the other 25% are all just variants on ABCs, Invoked and D/D/Ds
fix this NOW
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>>182087591
Wait, the ritual is 081 or 082
Because if it is 082 then it may lose all the chances of being the generic TCG exclusive card.
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>people think it's ok all the meta decks are from Arc-V packs 2 sets into Vrains
Really milks the almonds.
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>>182087458
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>>182087592
I'd rather just laugh at them for not doing anything notable
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>>182087864
The Ritual is 082. Where the traps stop is where the TCG exclusives start, and they start at 081, which is an effect monster.
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>>182087968
Nobody said that though, stop moving the goalpost
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Come on kid, join the glorious Machine Empire, we have all the cool OTKs.
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>>182087864
It's definitely 082. 080 is a trap.
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>>182087680
Yet Terraforming also got hit. Nice Master Rule 4 meta. Link cucks are going to be the reason Konami does this again next series.
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>>182088057
I played your garbage before when you were truly worthwhile, now piss off while I play TDs/Dinos
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anti-link anon is having a stroke

please stop triggering him
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>>182088032
>>182088059
>all the other exclusive 081 spots were different type of summon card, generic
>ritual is in 082
I knew this was good to be true.
Well fuck it, since we are here, I don't care, I might as well believe it's just a mini archetype and it will not be the Secret rarity archetype
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WHY IS NO ONE USING ME?
I'M BROKEN! KONAMI SAID SO!
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>>182088172
Do you think the japs will be ready for the inevitable Terraforming ban?
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>>182087968
>all the meta decks from Arc-V

Hardly, DUEA, Pendulums, Blue-eyes, Darklords, Kozmo, Burning Abyss and Paleos are no where to be seen.

And CIBR just came out TODAY so it's far too early to judge.
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>>182088326
In the past the TCG exclusive archetype starting at 082 has been the higher rarity of the two. Konami did kind of change things up with SPYRAL and Subterror, but SPYRAL never got any Secret Rares even though it had two waves where it was higher rarity than Subterrors.
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>>182088040
See
>>182086493
You retarded paywall shiller.
>>182088321
>he thinks it's only one person
Look at all the ocg results from the past 4 months.
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>>182088417
I use you. You plus Blue boy for either Arcananite Magician or Gungnir (Synchro)
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>>182088531
Do you understand reading comprehension, that isn't what "all" means in that post. This board really is full of stupid people. No wonder there are still people here who can't see what is wrong with the new meta.
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>>182088596
>Look at all the ocg results from the past 4 months.
>he still thinks this is an argument
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>>182088417
What the hell was even going through Jerome's mind when he was hyping this card up?

Did he really not consider Links or people dropping IF since it's inconsistent and takes up ED space for a level 5 Tuner which Gofu does better?
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>>182088806
Show me a chart where Link decks take over 25% of the chart. I'll he waiting here with my cock in hand as I stroke it over the idea that you will stay stupid until you pass away.
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>>182088596
>argument is failing so hard that you pretend to be multiple people
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What are some good generic cards to pop Baobaboon with that aren't Metalfoes or Dragonic Diagram? I have had three copys of Baobaboon lying arou nd and want to put them in my DDs now that I pulled Breaksword
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>>182087592
>people mad that their petdeck died
>When my petdecks are still the same
I can still summon Leo Dancer off a 2-card combo
I can still dump my entire deck and normal summon a Mr.Bones with 10k
I can still activate gold sarc to banish necroface to banish my entire deck and summon Gren Maju with massive attack
I can still play deskbots in the same degenerate way, if not better because missus radiant gives the deskbots another 500 ATK boost like they don't have enough atk boosting, while also giving me two spaces for Natty Beast and CyDra Infinity
And my fairy tails got BETTER with the new bamboo sword and having alternative methods of putting Snow in grave is always nice
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>>182088581
I wonder what will they do now.
Regardless, seeing Rituals is always a surprise (be it good or bad) and its hard to not be interested to see the artwork at least.
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>>182089021
Cloudians
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>>182088817
IF is searchable now.

But this was not well-thought out in the end.
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>>182089092
>its hard to not be interested to see the artwork at least
Why is that?
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>>182088942
You still don't understand that your dumb meta charts have nothing to do with a "backlash" by the players. Retard.
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>>182087592
I barely used ED to be quite honest. And my deck already losed a lot of power with Releaser at 0.
Links are interesting and I really want to try it eventually in my deck though.
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>>182088417
Theseus will always be remembered as 'that time KoA tried to get us hyped with a level 5 vanilla"
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>>182088817
>or people dropping IF since it's inconsistent
>it's inconsistent
Nah mate, people dropped IF because Norden got banned, without norden, babies can't make utopia the lightning off -1000 LP
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>>182088694
What the hell are you using?
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>>182089027
>new bamboo sword
This is by far my favourite gimmick in all of yugioh so thank you for drawing my attention to burning, totally made my day
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>>182088057
>barely 13% of all the tops in 24 decks
>glorious

Aside from killing Blue-eyes and being a living example of Konami's foolhardy and overly biased card design, ABC really doesn't have much going for it in this True Draco ruled world.
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>>182089234
People most of the time mock rituals or absolutely hate them when things like Nekroz happens (which in that moment they turn even more of a biased assholes)
That's why
>>182089408
Spellbook.
Spellbook Magician of Prophecy plus Instant Fusion and Theseus.
Also SMOP is both WATER and Spellcaster.
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>>182089027
No one cares if you can summon KoTSS 1 out of 10 games you shitty furfag tripfag.
>>182089175
It was always searchable you retard.
>>182089252
The decreasing amount of players each week isn't a backlash? Are you retarded?
>>182089315
It's not a normal monster you retard.
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>>182089449
Abuse the everloving fuck out of Cinderella to draw a big load of cards, your board should end up Silent Magician, Infinity and burning sword on field while snow is in grave. That is if you're lucky because bamboo fairy tail is a lucksack|
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>>182089525
One weird spellbook deck
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>>182087818
The true dracos are more like a variant of invoked after they've been hit.
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when are we gonna get a cleanup of useless shit on the Banlist? How long has CED had it's errata?
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>>182089895
Weird? Yeah
But also fun.
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>>182089908
Friendly reminder that for Konami of America Card Trooper is as bad as Zoodiac Ratpier
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>>182089908
You will buy links and forget CED goy
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>>182089908
mid-september
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>>182089309
#ReleaseReleaser

>>182089315
It simply required too much imagination for any Yu-gi-oh player to unlock its true potential.
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enough already faggot
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>>182089745
>The decreasing amount of players each week isn't a backlash? Are you retarded?
Are you stupid? We are talking about Links in the metagame, not the amount of players. Of course that is a backlash, but you were talking about that at all you stupid retard.
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>>182090201
The potential for thesus is more or less him making Instant fusion (3) making Dark Synchro have 6 gofus
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>>182090493
Apparently they saw something in it no other player could to hype it up so much.
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>>182090125
>when you refuse to print a card(s) for so long that they're completely worthless now and aren't worth printing
Fuck you Tewart. I just wanted Cthulhu.dek.
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>>182089772
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>>182090201
What are your thoughts on Saffira /dng/?
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>>182090710
world prize ;^)
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>>182090029
May I ask for a list?
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>>182091020
It's incomplete but yeah, just wait I search for it and post a list...
And pray I can get in time because I don't have much time left
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>>182091137
Are you dying?
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>>182090710
>be lovecraftfag
>do CoC n shit, read all the expanded mythos and related writers
>mythos cards announced
>build wacky shit like fabled Azathoth turbo, Chronomaly synchron Azathoth turbo, PK speedroid Azathoth turbo, Invoked Azathoth
>banlists kill everything
>Norden gets fucking banned
>in the meanwhile, slowly became a darklord main
>now instead of deckbuilding all day i am shitposting on /dng/ and fapping to demon_girls somehow even more than before

How thou art fallen
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>>182090916
>"Yo, so what's our ruling on Kaiser Colosseum interacting with Kaijus? Can you tribute if-
>Ugh. We don't make actual rulings, just ban it and say we're cracking down on floodgates. Now leave me alone, I'm busy putting imperial order to 1.
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>>182090837
She's cute and can be mixed into some interesting decks, but doesn't have enough power in the current meta. Not that much besides Zoo/True Draco do right now. Also people still draw art of her sometimes
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>>182090821
Shame that this thing is unsearchable but i guess with the massive draw power, you won't need to search it
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>mfw testing Deskbots post-Links
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>>182091332
Can I get in on some of that?

>>182091523
>some interesting decks
Such as?
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>>182072090
who is this konami shiller?
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>>182090837
She makes me hate Herald.dek more because Saffira literally gives Herald ammo, lmao infinite Honest.
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>>182088417
OLD AND BUSTED!
>>182089745
Sky Iris seems decent now that Odd-eyes Synchron is here
>>182090493
It has some cool interactions in Spyral since Resort and IF is Sleeper+Resort+Last Resort with an extra card. Shame that they decided to make it level 5 to combo with their other meme exclusive
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>>182091592
>actually....
And it doesn't matter if you're stuck sitting on a 0 ATK monster if you end up skipping both of your opponent's main phases.
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>>182090125
does Millennium thousand-eyes Virus even exist?
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>>182091592
There is no such thing as unsearchable.
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>>182091743
I haven't revamped my decks with her in awhile. When I did use her frequently in decks it was stuff like Herald, Hieratics, Buster Blader and other garbage like that.
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>>182091787
meant for >>182089021
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>>182091829
>>182091918
Leave searching to me
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>>182091316
Nono. I'm using a borrowed computer.
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>>182085613
Not surprised, DDD managed too well to adapt to th master rule 4
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>>182091316
No but he game is with the Link start deck coming in a week
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>>182091448
The OCG freed Imperial Order too and it's doing jack squat. Not that I advocate IO's shit design but what was the point of that erratum
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>>182091943
Meant for
>>182091715

What is your favorite Ritual Monster /dng/?
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>>182092271
To nerf pendulums and test the link paywall technique.
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>>182092337
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>>182091523
>Oh hey, Anon!
>Hot dog today huh?
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>>182092135
How exactly does DDD cope post links? Do you need to abuse the fact that if ED monsters come back from the grave they don't need to be in the EMZ because if so I'm not sure how you'd drop the CW/Siegfried T1 boards unless you open with a godly hand.
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>>182092391
Still for money.
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Why is it called the link paywall??? No one is even buying this trash and I don't think anyone is stupid enough to.
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>>182091943
The BB one is the only real odd one out.

>>182092135
How so?
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>>182092337
You are like a baby
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>>182092337
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>>182092337
God I love Japanese swimsuits
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>>182092443
Pretty much yeah. Helps that they literally made another Genghis.
Kepler is also usable as Link fodder.
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>>182092337
My nigga Demise is still the shit
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>>182091523
>spoiler
That is so true it makes me sad...
Well, she has a nice design but still...
>>182092337
>pic related
But otherwise, I really love Relinquished, still one of the classic and strongest Ritual mosnters in many years.
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>>182092524
Buster Blader was just a meme deck I was trying out inspired by >>182092337 that I had saved

>>182092758
You've always gotta respect one of the OG good rituals.
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>>182091715

It was my favorite version.

looked almost like that, but i modified it here and there for the banlists so it ended up even more inconsistent, rip triple upstart with summoners monk. The field is here because i've lost control of my life, in it I found a little of the beauty I had vainly sought in life, and feels nice to play with, i should try teching it in more stale-based decks
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>>182092524
ss from grave all time
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>>182092337
Torn between pic related and The Masked Beast.
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>>182092685
>out of the 3 Executives, the best one is a V-Jump promo
>out of the 3 Armageddons, the only playable one is also a promo
kill me
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>>182086713
That is too good to be real but being realistic nips are cucks
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>>182092824
It amazes me how little pics of Relinquished are. I mean, he is a literal monster.
Ah well, this one is cool too.
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>tfw no Ghost Ogre gf
Anyone else here at NAWCQ?
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>>182093478
thats a guy
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>>182093478
The face... looks weird?
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>>182092337
Overdesigned to hell and back, got shit on by DMG recolors in the movie and is one of the worst cards in his archetype but for some reason it just stands out above everything else to me.
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>>182093568
Literally talked to her myself, trust me when I say I can spot a tranny, since I know so many.
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>>182092758
A man of good taste
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>>182092019
Thanks for the tip. I'm trying to put Baoba into my DDs since it can fix jank hands and provides fodder for Rank 3 and Links
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>>182092337
retrain never ever
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>>182092758
I will always be sad that I pulled Ruin instead of him.

>>182093423
Not like westerners are any better to be fair.
>>
What does Dark Magician the Dragon Knight have to do to make DM good?
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>First few round of WCQ had Kozmo and Pendulums
>Last few rounds have been nothing but Zoo mirrors

Kill this format already!
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>>182094519
It'll have a free quick pop effect each turn every turn that's not even hard opt.
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>>182094519
it won't due to timeaus already fucking it up
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>>182091829
I like how this coincidentally gets fucked by Terminal World
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>>182094519
It erratas Eye of Timaeus to be searchable by Rod and Circle.
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>>182093670
Why do you know so many?
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>>182087006
Unless I see sales data I'm not buying your bs.
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>>182094679
>they can make it an unholy hell spawn of Master Peace and Toadally Awesome

>but Dark Magician will stay shit because no consistency with Eye of Timeaus due to DMG making him into an archetype

Why is Dark Magician so cucked?
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>>182094945
They know nostalgia dicksuckers will buy Dark Magician support anyway even if it sucks
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>>182094804
Why wasn't this the case to being with
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>>182094678
This + easy to bring out
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>>182094856
Because I'm a raging fag, why else?
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>>182095342
Here's a funny story

>be 2014
>be Konami
>decide to print the Legendary Dragons in a nostalgia pandering CP people would later only buy for Soul Charge, Hands, Mathman etc and not for the dragons
>Decide to go full anime and print Amulet Dragon and DMG the Dragon Knight to go along with Timeaus
>In order to make this work, combine DMG and DM into an archetype on the text
>Fast Forward to 2016
>Print new Dark Magician support
>because Dark Magician is the most supported card in the entire game, make the support search by text instead of archetype like other decks do
>As a result, Eye of Timeaus which treats DM like an archetype and not an individual card is now unsearchable with the new support
>Timeaus is now forever in a gray area of Dark Magician support unless it gets errata'd to say Dark Magician or Dark Magician Girl to be searchable

And that's the story of how Dark Magician cucked himself out of his own legendary dragon, at least Hermos made the first Red-eyes Fusion monster and Blue-eyes and Critias had no interactions whatsoever to begin with but Dark Magician was cucked by bad text.
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>>182092824
I'm sorry there isn't more art of your waifu anon if it means anything art of Saffira is hit and miss because furries are mainly the ones who draw her
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>>182096369
>spoiler
Well, they are usually the type of artists that draw really good, so the hit and miss may be mostly for the nsfw rather than the art being good or bad. Right?
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>>182085224
>DDD tops
>no decklist
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>>182094519
from my experience playing DM it'd have to protect the two continuous cards, provide better disruption than banishing one card once per turn, and somehow be easy to bring out consistently. so basically everything
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>>182097331
You have 2 options
1. Go to the OCG decklists link in the opening post

2. Wait for the org to post the weekly decklist
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>>182097331
only za perfecto may know of it
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>>182097747
>and somehow be easy to bring out consistently.

It's DoA then.
>le I of Tee-my-us can't be searched because it states the archetype
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>>182096323
Plus, add in how Magician Girls aren't really compatible with Dark Magician.

Seriously, I've tried to make a decent petdeck that combines Dark Magician and Magician Girls. I've yet to be able to do it.
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>>182096810
It's mainly miss with bad faces or randomly added in characters that don't make sense. There are diamonds in the rough though which is more to say than most non mainstream Yu-gi-oh girls.
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>>182093656
>one of the worst cards
HAHAHA no, Neo Blue-eyes Ultimate Dragon is still the blunder of the century, how do you fuck up a retrain of BEUD after also making Chaos MAX be hexproof?
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>>182097760
TOP 8
■ Monster (25 cards)
3 DD Necro Slime
3 Growing G
2 DD Swallar · Slime
2 DD Lamia
3 DD Magical Sage Master Kepler
3 DD Magical Guardian Copernicus
3 DDD Kuranagi king Abys · Ragnarok
3 DD Magical Wise Sorder Thomas
3 DD orthos

■ Magic (11 sheets)
3 greedy greedy pot with greed
3 Seduction of Darkness
1 One For One
3 Hell Gate Contract
1 Contract of King Majin

■ Trap (4 sheets)
1 Empty space
One race Otome's contract
2 God's Notice

■ Extra deck (15 sheets)
2 DDD Fireball King Temujin
1 DDD Orthodox King Dalk
1 DDD King Beuluf of King Dragon
1 Metafize Horus Dragon
1 Clear Wing · Synchro · Dragon
1 Moon Dragon Black · Rose
1 DDD Oishi King Alexander
1 Crystal Wing · Synchro · Dragon
1 PSY frame load · Ω
1 DDD Cursed King's Cyfried
1 Dragon Tsushira of the Ice Boundary
1 Formula · SYNCHRON
1 DDD Xu Xiao Wang Kari · Yuga
1 No.38 Hope Circle Titanic · Galaxy

■ Side deck (15 sheets)
2 Onigai Usagi
3 System Down
1 feather of harpy
2 Total eclipse's book
2 twin twister
1 Shaking eyes
2 dimensional barrier
2 Devil fragrant fragrance

SOURCE http://blog.livedoor.jp/yugioh_tpr/archives/8167156.html
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>>182098029
Just ditch the Dark Magician part and go full Spellbook
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>>182098461
so this is old... fuck
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>>182098461
>System down back in the side deck
Damn
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>>182098461
>October 15th, 2016
wow so current
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>>182098461
>Slime and Lamia still at 2 despite both being at 3
>none of the new support being used
>that side deck

Are you sure this is the decklist?
Something here doesn't seem right.
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>>182097331
https://ocg.xpg.jp/deck/deck.fcgi?ListNo=288499
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>>182091020
Sorry for the long wait
>3 secrets
>3 magiciian of prophecy
>2 master
>2 tower
>2 wisdom
>3 fate
>2 eternity
>1 life
>2 double summon
>1 book of moon
>3 jowgen
>3 rudra (the new one)
>3 junon
>2 power
>1 veiler
>1 kycoo
>2 thunder of ruler (its actually not a bad idea when blue boy is involved)
>1 magical something (mostly to recover quickplay spell)
>1 star hall
>2 instant fusion (or 3 if you take out star hall)
And the ED is mostly 3 theseus with some lv 7 synchros and a few Xyz. You honestly don't need the ED but I did this version because I liked it.
It's for funs so don't expect something big.
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>>182098056
That's because both NBEUD and Chaos MAX were altered from their original movie effects

NBEUD could attack 3 times so long as you had the original Ultimate Dragon in your ED but it would kill itself after the BP and while it stays in your graveyard, all further Ultimate Dragons become Towers

Chaos MAX was not hexproof in the movie, they buffed it IRL.
Also Chaos Form didn't need you to tribute or banish anything if DM/BE were in the graveyard.
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>>182099068
>an actual list
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>>182098841
>no images like the other link
Thanks, I'll be here google translating some more.
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>watch wcq stream
>guy ghost ogre's lose-1-turn
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>>182099206
You don't even need google translate.

It's just a full power D/D deck with PSY-Frame Gamma teched in and the new Genghis

Seriously, you people can't recognize Japanese at all after watching all that anime?
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>>182099068
Thank you very much.
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>>182099068
>thunder of ruler
Threatening Roar is better. Why not one of the Mirror Forces?
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>>182099485
Monster (27 pcs / 13 types)
1 PSY Frame Driver
3 DD Necro Slime
3 DD swallar slime
3 DD Lamia
1 DD Ghost
2 Ghost ash
3 PSY frame gear γ
3 DD magical wise player Kepler
1 DD magical wise man Copernicus
3 DDD Kuranagi king Abys · Ragnarok
1 DDD Deathly Hell · Armageddon
2 DD magical wise son Thomas
1 DD orthrus

Magic (12 sheets / 7 types) Type
2 Greedy greedy vase
1 Death resuscitation
3Trade In
1 Harpy feathers
1One for one
3 Contract of hell gate
1Contract of the Devil King

Trap (1 sheet / 1 kind) kind
1 Contract of war maiden

Extra deck (15 pcs / 14 types) Type Attribute tribe Attack strength Defense force
2 DDD Fire King Fireworks Temple
1 DDD Orthodox King Dalk
1 DDD Fiery Fire Great Executive · Templein
1 Hao Hyeonlong Stave Venom
1 Oddays Meteor Burst Dragon
1 DDD Oishi Alexander
1 Crystal Wing · Synchro · Dragon
1 PSY frame load · Ω
1 DDD Curse Blood Cycle Fleet
1 Dragon Tsushira of the Ice Boundary
1 Shinryuu Knight Fell Grant
1 DDD Xu Xiao Wang Kari · Yuga
1 DDD Super deathly superior Darkness · Hell · Armageddon
1 Decode · Talker

Side deck (15 pcs / 6 types) Type Attribute tribe Attack strength Defensive force
3 Growing G
3 Turtle tortoise beasts Gameshuel
2 system down
2 Twin Twister
3 Book of the month
2 God's Notice
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>>182099762
I like this more because it says "No Battle Phase" instead "Monster cant declar an attack"
>>182099525
Your welcome.
>>182099168
Yeah? I have it along with my Northwemko deck
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>>182099801
>those techs
And this topped a 64 man tourney?

Links are a hell of a drug.
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>>182099801
>another actual list
come on people
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>>182099801
>no No 38 in the ED
>Starve venom in instead
What? has No 38 been powercreeped in R8 decks now or something?
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>>182098516
Why are Spellbooks so fun?
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>>182099801
You can always open it in percy, you know.
The last monster in ED is Decode Talker, btw.
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>>182099959
Yes but Thunder is so clearly telegrophed it hurts. You're telling your opponent "don't waste resources trying to win this turn, it won't work". Fou're telling youl opponent to conserve their resources for next turn which is a horrible play.
Whereas Roar is more like "Whoops you can't attack now looks like you set up that OTK field for nothing :^)". It invites your opponent to waste resources that you con then get rid of. You know, like an actual trap.
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>>182100642
typing on a phone is godawful
*telegraphed
*You're
*you
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>Thunder of Ruler
So if my opponent's MP1 is skipped with Burning Bamboo, and I activates Thunder in their SP, can they still choose to go to MP2 instead of EP?

I mean, MP2 can't exist without BP, right?
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>>182100642
I know that, however I noted how some duelists (and decks) relies on the main phase 2 to set up other combos or extend their combos, so this is another reason I used it.
I give you a point on the "wasting resources" thing. I will take a look at it eventually
>>182100756
Yeah... gotta agree.
>>182100851
That's how it works, you can't jump to MP 2 if you didn't enter the BP.
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>>182100291
p-post background
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>>182101003
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>>182101121
>Ninja Traptrix
It sucks to be Hanzo, he is like the BEST ninja ever and the only two competent Ninjas besides him are golden upstart and the xyz that swings twice. And he's probably that shameful of being part of a bullshit archetype, he just hangs around with harpies or traptrix
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Gouki Destroy Ogre
Earth Warrior / Link / Effect
Link 4 2800 / L BL BR R
2+ “Gouki” monsters
The first time each monster this card points to would be destroyed by battle each turn, it is not destroyed. During your Main Phase: You can activate this effect; you cannot Special Summon monsters for the rest of this turn, except "Gouki" monsters, also your opponent Special Summons up to 2 monsters from their GY, then you Special Summon up to that many "Gouki" monsters from your GY to your zone this card points to, except Link Monsters. You can only use this effect of "Gouki Destroy Ogre" once per turn.

Gouki must really be looking for a fight to give your opponent so many monsters
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>>182101252
I remember people trying Ninjas with Kaijus when Dogoran and Kumungous were the only ones released so far. Was pretty interesting but not good enough to catch on.
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>>182102318
So if your opponent knows you will benefit more than them, they can choose to only summon one monster, and thus you only get to summon 1? I guess it's probably better than the other 3 promos, but not by much.
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>>182101252
Shame really, the Transformation Arts are pretty neat.

>>182102318
>can literally be stopped by your opponent saying no thanks
Good to know that Great is still the only decent one.
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So what in the fuck is Executor supposed to be anyway? Some eldritch horror with armor?
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>>182102318
Do they really need revival effect when they can search Rematch practically every turn? It's not like you can revive Link monster either way anyway.

And your opponent also choose which one to revive and in which battle position, so you can't exactly use them to inflict some free damage.
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>>182102606
Gouki Links seem to have a thing where they always benefit both players
>Gouki can reduce your non-Gouki's attack as well
>Thunder Ogre gives your opponent an extra normal summon as well
>Destroy Ogre gives your opponents as many monsters as you get
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>>182102318
>opponent uses the effect
>summon Felgrand and Goliath and then banish Ogre and leave opponent locked
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>>182102962
Going a bit too far with the fair and honorable fighter thing, I guess
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>>182103142
heel turn when
dont be cena
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>>182103142
I don't mind the whole equal grounds and giving your opponent's monsters thing if they had more spell/traps that gained benefit from your opponent controlling monsters.
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>>182103356
There's probably a decent chance of Go becoming evil at some point for some reason, so who knows.

>>182103458
Yeah. All you can do is hope.
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>>182102318
Non-text covered version

Regardless if it it good or not it is definitely the manliest Gouki so far.
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Ok whoever sayed that both VRAINS and Links may get canceled and kill the game needs to develop it better because that's da buillshit
Also captchas are getting too long and retardeds
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>>182103809
>that bulge
$10 says it gets removed.
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>>182104165
only if they do it right
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>>182099801
>>182100291
Does this deck still brick like no other?
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>>182103809
He looks like he's wearing a duel disk.
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>>182104618
be za perfecto
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You can rate from the best to worst the sub par Link Promo pack cards now!
>Cyberse Accelerator
>Reloader Dragon
>Trickstar Bloody Mary
>Gouki Destroy Ogre
I don't have an order to put them in other than saying Reloader Dragon is one of the worst Link monsters we've seen so far.
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>>182104669
I'll try
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Okay so i think i figured out the issue.

Ekibyo Drakmord will proc each end phase after 2 turns have passed and if its destroyed it destroys the monster it was equipped to anyway.

Anyone can tell me why that is?
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>>182104751
Mary is triggers Lyco who trigger Narkiss/10
Accelerator is literally Encodo Talkah/10
Destroy Orge seems like crap and Reloader is pure shit
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>>182102318
Gouki Destroy Ogre
Earth Warrior / Link / Effect
Link 4 2800 / L R BL BR
2+ “Gouki” monsters
You can only use this card name’s (2) effect once per turn.
(1) Each monster this card points to cannot be destroyed by battle once per turn.
(2) You can activate this effect: You cannot Special Summon monsters for the rest of this turn, except “Gouki” monsters, also make your opponent Special Summon up to 2 monsters from their GY, then, you Special Summon that same number of non-Link “Gouki” monsters from your GY to a zone this card points to.

Cleaner org translation with slightly different wording
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>>182107341
We've come a long way since the days of Gilasaurus haven't we?

But that said, it feels like backwards powercreep when we had things like Deepsea King to let you summon a lot of monsters for no reason with no bonus for the opponent but now we have this
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>>182107630
It's backwards for the archetype too considering Rematch does the same thing but better. All I can think of is if they keep making Links higher and higher and make a Link 5 Gouki Which will then have a Link 6 Gouki that keeps going up and never actually accomplish anything
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>>182109747
>we'll keep getting higher link rather than any lower
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>>182110118
It would be fine if they give them a few more cards that help spam the field.
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>play Lightsworns
>think I've got the best ratios since I've never bricked and always get the good mills
>now in recent testing I'm opening more Wulfs and Garnets
>play Blue-eyes
>think I've got the best ratios since I've never gotten bad hands before and always win by turn 5 the latest
>now in recent testing, I'm opening more vanillas or revives
>play Tellars
>think I've got the best ratios since I almost consistently open Deneb and 2-4 backrow
>in recent testing, I I'm opening too many monsters or the opponent opens Twin Twister when I don't have Alpha to negate it.


Why does this happen?
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>>182102318
>Goukis sorely need a Link-2 so that they can actually go into Great Ogre
>get ANOTHER Link-3 that's hot garbage
>get a Link-4 that nobody asked for that also has a garbage as fuck effect
>still no S/T support other than Rematch

W H Y
H
Y
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>>182112243
There's still hope. Then again, Raidraptors went all of Arc-V without getting a practical RUM searcher...
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>>182110878
its just bad luck
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>Testing deck against Justice
>finally get combo i've been trying off
>Suddenly makes a random card he never made before
>Combo is destroyed in seconds

Fuck Justice
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What if Chess had Xyz summoning? Like you'd align a pawn tuner with a bishop and get Utopian Bishop.
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>>182113651
this post gave me diseases
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>>182112243
>tfw Gouki need a Link 2 even more than before because on top of making it easier to climb into the bigger links it'd also make Destroy actually do something with its summoned monster
It could be Reloader Dragon tier and I couldn't care Konami, just give me the name.
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>>182114424
the worst part is that the last 2 links they got would be pretty good as link 2s but konami had to fuck it up
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>>182114424
>tfw Konami actually thinks Goukis are broken so when they give it a Link 2 it ends up having a purely harmful effect to balance it out
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>>182092428
Good taste
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>>182114628
I could almost see Konami's unneeded high Link number on Destroy Ogre if it could summon back the Link monsters used to summon it to create a strong field instead of making it a worse Rematch.
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>>182093467
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>>182115053
Did he actually make that, or did he steal the art from someone else?
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>didnt sell my ABCs or DDD
>Konami wont get any money out of me this year since the next 2 sets are garbage
>people deny we're entering a GX era of garbage card sales
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>>182115705
Well now that you said that the TCG exclusives are gonna be broken
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>>182115752
Stand back!
Starting the first exclusive of the next sets with a ritual archetype probably isn't gonna end well
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>>182115752
They won't be. You can screencap this and I'll tattoo my dick with an image of Hungry Burger if I'm wrong.
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>>182115843
Probably not, but Konami has shown that they can make Rituals broken if they want to.
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>>182115843
>ritual archetype isn't gonna end well
says you
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>>182116101
When I say it won't end well I mean it'll be a broken, clunky mess or Nekroz Tier fuckery because Konami is scared of the middle ground.
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>>182115957
>Konami has shown that they can make Rituals broken if they want to.
Who would guess Konami just had to give rituals good effects to make them good.
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>>182116212
>tfw still remember that buyout

Has there ever been a bigger waste of money for an overhyped deck which did absolutely nothing?
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>He plays Noble Knights
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>>182116615
The fuck are you talking about?
People are well aware of the value of each card by the time they are released in TCG, thanks to all the delay we get.
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>>182116615
I just bought 30 of these, why are they good?
This isn't anywhere near as bad, but I just randomly remembered this
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>>182117512
>Metaphys S/T doesn't actually have on-banish effect
What a waste.
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>>182115705
>>people deny we're entering a GX era of garbage card sales
>Making things up
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>>182117512
>Send all cards in your hand to the graveyard
>that much dependency on the opponent
>burns you

This is from GX isn't it?
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>>182117793
Metaphys cards are just a mess in general. The effects should have activated whenever they're special summoned, or at least summoned through a Metaphys card instead of monster. Dimension would have been such a good card. I have no clue why Executor was printed, why Asymmetaphys has such an irrelevant effect, or how they plan on unironically releasing the archtype in the TCG while Macro and Fissure are still at 1 here. Why the fuck is Ragnarok a tuner?
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>>182118008
Yup, Yubel's card. Printed in Phantom Darkness.
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>>182118169
Is there something wrong with Ragnarok being a Tuner?
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>>182118240
It doesn't make sense.
It would be like if they printed a single Six Samurai Pendulum Monster, or suddenly gave Zoodiacs a Toon monster, or made a new True King that was a Spirit for no reason.
They could be hinting at a Level 2 Metaphys monster, but given Horus's effect, that wouldn't make sense, and we already have the whole set spoiled. With how much support Metaphys have gotten, there's no chance they plan on drawing this out with a second wave.
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>>182118756
Infernoids has a Tuner
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>>182118756
>It would be like if they printed a single Six Samurai Pendulum Monster
Don't you love random pendulums?
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>>182119007
Yeah, but they have levels all over the place so it gives them utility.
Meanwhile the non-tuner Metaphys monsters are Levels 7, 8, and fucking 10. That means you can only make Star Eater and fucking Onimaru unless you bring in outside support to a deck that's already jam fucking packed with bullshit.
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>>182118756
>made a new True King that was a Spirit for no reason.
Don't you just love random spirit monster?
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LINKS FUCKING WHEN, PERCY

YGOPRO2 is a bug hell and the online server is pure garbage/OCG Only list.
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Why are Toons a subtype anyway? Will we ever get a non toon archetype that uses toon monsters?
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>>182119659
Early days card design weirdness
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>>182119659
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>>182119659
>Will we ever get a non toon archetype that uses toon monsters?

Maybe a comic book based archetype instead of animation like the Toons are based on?
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>>182120475
HERO's already took over comics
best bet is a tcg callback to manga
>done "how to draw" style
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Unconfirmed OTS stuff
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>>182124078
>Ulti-rare Whiptail
Of all zoodiacs, Whiptail gets to be made an Ultimate?
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I see three pendulum effect monsters on that checklist and one has a damn long name, would that be Abyss Actor - Twinkle Littlestar?
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Apology for poor english

when were you when billy break autism attack?
i was sat at home, tributing opponents monster with kaiju when jeff jones phone

‘break is broke’

‘kek'

and you
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>>182126632
the hell happened
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>>182124103
We posting Sawataris again?

Taking requests because why not
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>>182127337
Link Monsters, Blue-Eyes or Red-Eyes.
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>>182112397
only because they didn't want another dark bird archetype to be meta.
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>>182128185
>Blue-Eyes
They win worlds
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>>182128185
We already had one for Red-eyes so here you go
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Art for the Odd-Eyes in the Legendary Dragons box. Looks like it fused with Yuya's pendant. Odd-Eyes Pendant Dragon?

https://ygorganization.com/tcg-top-legendary-dragons-box/
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>>182132779
>doesn't have odd-eyes
eh
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>>182132870
but it does
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>>182124669
Whiptail is best boi
Also he's not likely to get hit and will be used even even Zoo gets reduced to Boarbow Beatdown
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>>182128185
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>>182132965
I guess it's odd-eyes crystal dragon then.

We already have the regular, pendulum, sync, xyz, and ritual odd-eyes, so what's this one gonna be?
Ritual since there's only a single ritual odd-eyes?
Link?
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>>182133138
>Missus
She single-handedly brought back the corpse of Zoodiac to tier 1.
Change it to Proxy or something.
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>>182132779
>>182132965
So where's the new Cyber Dragon?
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I don't understand why KoJ lets KoA write these literal fanfiction cards for several archetypes and then imports them months later.

They should have made the cards themselves since these people can't design cards worth a damn without stupid floatshit, see Fail Whale and Noble Knights
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>>182133537
You know the TCG branch designed Dimensional Barrier, right?
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>>182133863
No evidence for that whatsoever.
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>>182133537

>implying KoA actually designs any cards
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>>182133138
>>182132054
THX
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>>182133537
Judging from Eatos' sword and Joan shenanigan, no, KoA ain't design nothing.
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>>182133863
>part of the 80 card pack
>TCG design
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>>182133537
But True Dracos are degenerate floatshit.
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>>182133537
The best cards float so why not make them float?

Easy simple degenerate design is how to make a good deck.
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>>182135640
They float and they are degenerate but their floatshit aren't the one that's degenerate.
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>>182135794
What are you talking about?
The best card doesn't even float.
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>>182133994
Luke Withington told me.
>inb4 'My Dad works at Konami'
My Local store TO is actually the head representative of Konami for the local region when dealing with Tournaments.
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>>182132779
Odd-Eyes Link Dragon
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>>182136764
No reason to believe you whatsoever.
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im going to chill with you guys since my board got raided twice in one night and will probably get raided again
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>>182140130
What board?
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>>182140357
/vp/
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You can choose only one, /dng/.
Which one do you choose?
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>>182142127
Clear Wing.

>10/10 design
>8/10 effect
>10/10 upgrade

I only wish synchro didn't suck so much out of the 4 methods.
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>>182142127
the one that's a cute girl
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>>182142127
Starving Venom. Beastly design and best owner.
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>>182140981
Oh what happened?
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>>182142127
Dark Rebellion since someone already took Clear and I actually have one

>>182142245
It's the 2nd strongest out of all of them at a base
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>>182142127
Blue-Eyes White Dragon
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>>182142127
I love Odd-Eyes design but Crystal wing is best dimension dragonfu
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There should've been a drastic rebalance in card design

>Fusion requires the most specific cards as well as a third party Spell for the majority, so they're overall the strongest. In general, the Fusion of two specific monsters should be a straight addition with concessions depending on how difficult it is to fuse them, so if the materials are two really good monsters it forms a hardcore boss. Ideally, you always get back what you put in.
>Ritual monsters are straight up busted, to fit the theme of sacrificing smaller monsters to bigger badder ones to increase their power and making a dark covenant. Rituals should be the strongest single monsters in the game barring exceptionally difficult monsters from the other methods. The materials should be non-specific in most cases, though.
>Xyz is a toolbox. Overlay summoning results in the weakest type of card overall, but they're useful in specific circumstances to fit certain roles. Simple effects for lower-class monsters, basically; Abyss Dweller's effect should require 3 materials at minimum. Rank-Ups should be the way an Xyz deck brings out their bosses and becomes a legitimate threat.
>Synchro is the most simple to make a case for, as the more stars a monster has, the stronger it is in a linear equation. In addition, there should be less high-level Synchros with a focus on stacking smaller ones to form larger, much more powerful bosses.
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>>182144000
>Shaddolls
>Nekroz
>Tellars
>Generic Synchro decks (not really Yang Zing)
Yeah, that's why everyone loved DUEA format.
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>>182144000

>my favorite card type should be the strongest and my least favorite should be the weakest
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>>182144396
>The hardest cards to summon should be the strongest to compensate for how hard they are to summon, and the easiest to summon should be the weakest to prevent bullshit swarming of powerful boss monsters

But I guess Zoodiac domination is okay too. In fact why stop there? Let's make a Rank 4 that you can only summon if you have only Xyz in your ED, and if you reveal it at any time, you win the Match and your opponent has to suck your dick. And while we're at it, let's print a Ritual that doesn't even have a Ritual Spell, because why even bother at this point?
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>>182144358
Only Shaddolls were tolerable and good.

Synchros sucked in DUEA era.
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>>182144000
>no pendulums and links
here senpai >>182051252
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>>182145006
>Pendulums

They're fucking material for the others, they don't count.

>Links

I have no point of reference about how strong they should be so I excused them from my judgement, dumbass.
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>>182145127
Some pendulum decks dont need go for xyz or synchro, like majespecters or armorphages. Many pendulum monsters are strong for themselves And in some weeks links will be here you should have a opinion about them like everyone has.
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>>182144561
>let's print a Ritual that doesn't even have a Ritual Spell
Fucking Konami.
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>>182145796
>they did this in the same set Pre-Prep came out in
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>>182145796
Amorphages are such a mess. If you actually want to use Amorphactor you're better off just putting him in a different deck and using Earth Chant or Advanced Ritual Art.
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>>182145796
>Doesn't negate Links
BUY LINKS
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>>182146106
BUT LINK MONSTERS DON'T HAVE LEVELS OR RANKS
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>>182145751
But Pendulum monsters are just Main Deck monsters like everyone else, is my point. They're not beholden to the same laws as ED things, they're as simple as normal summoning.

>And in some weeks links will be here you should have a opinion about them like everyone has.

I'll have an opinion when Shaddolls come back, Synchro becomes great again, a fun Xyz deck is released, a balanced Ritual archetype is a reasonable possibility, and I stop being bitter because the game is perfect. Or, just when I can start personally Link Summoning because fucking Percy will finally give it to me.
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>>182144561
Cry more cuck. The superior summoning methods get the treatment they deserve.
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>>182145987
A certain searchable ritual spell is better since it can summon from grave, meaning you can fetch the Amorphactor with Shrine and/or Felgrand Paladin.

Though I'm not so sure anymore after MR4.
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>>182146408
Thanks for all the salt. It goes great on my eggs.
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>>182146580
Link-2 "toolbox" is shit though.
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>>182147056
It is but a young child. Give it some time, and it will hopefully improve.
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>>182146408
Oh i see your point on pendulums, yeah they was designed to be extra deck and main deck monster at the same time and they act as continuos spells too
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>>182132054
>flare metal
>trash
top cuck
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>>182146981
>>eats eggs

Good to know Xyz scum are all trash with universally bad taste.
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>>182147256
Let's face it. It's going to grow into an asshole and beat his brothers up because he can.
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>>182144561

>ritual and fusion
>hardest to summon
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>>182149064
Yes?
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>>182147686
Eggs are delicious you mong
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>>182149308

>the only 2 summoning types that do not need something on the field
>hardest to summon
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I wish they made a deck with a ritual boss monster and the ritual spell fueling a sort of engine.That would be better than the crap we've had these last 5 years.
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>>182150247
>They are the most expensive to play on board and have a short life span on the board.
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>>182150289
>engine
This meme needs to stop
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>>182150247
>the only two summoning types that require a specific spell card in addition to the monsters being used
>one of which requires you to also have the monster you're trying to summon in your hand, as opposed to always being available in your extra deck
>not hardest to summon
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>>182150247
What, did you come here from Duel Link or something?
Putting multiple monsters on field is piss easy compared to searching a certain spell that may or may not requires another specific monster.
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>>182150390
engine,combo call it whatever. rituals at this point the the game should serve as set up and a bit of stun/control to stave off the opponents play but not be blatantly overpowered.
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>>182150568
Rituals would be better off overpowered. They should at least be Zielgigas-tier with high ATK, potential for non-destruction non-targeting removal, and generation of card advantage. They should be the ultimate double-edged swords, being really strong but harder to use and bring out overall.
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>Make sentai archetype with actual mechs
>Make the mechs Xyz instead of Fusion for some reason
>Make it only have 3 members despite nearly all 3 member sentai teams adding more later

How can you fuck up so bad? You got Kamen Rider right twice!
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>>182151315
That would just lead to a beatdown strategy and not much room for other strategies or mechanics imo.
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>>182151508
>adding more later
It's not later yet
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>>182150568
No they shouldn't.
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>>182151890
Why not?
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>most fusion monster is some kind of boss monster
>they finally made a generic fusion monster that helps you swarm for a change
>it's banned
wew
why can't they print more genghis instead of shit boss monster like pet liger
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>>182152202
Because they deserve the trash bin.
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>>182152380
Ok so you just want to shitpost.
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>be 28
>be fit
>be female
>be single
>want to start playing Yugioh in real life for the first time after playing on online simulators since 2011
>don't want guys hitting on me

Guys at locals won't hit on me if I go right?
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>>182152219
>one card r4nk that doesn't use your normal
Good riddance.
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>>182152880
Kill yourself
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>>182153106
Why don't you make me if you're so tough?
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>>182152880
Being a real person that exists is also essential. I'm afraid if you can't fulfill that requirement you aren't going to be getting very far.
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>>182153174
Sure, where do you live
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>>182152880
Guys won't hit on you because they're devoted to their waifus, they'll ignore your 3DPD ass
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>>182153397
But...I do exist.
>>182153398
Figure it out
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>>182153040
>on paper: using 5-card to bring out a monster that only bring back one of its mat back
>in practice: 1-card R4
Instant Fusion is one hell of a drug.
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>>182152880
Doubt it unless you're a slut.
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>>182153432
>>182153794
>they'll ignore your 3DPD ass
Good. I'm about to drive to my locals right now and was debating whether to do it. I have about $400 for a ABC deck in preparation for the Link summons
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>>182153869
k hope you don't get raped by a really fat sweaty smellyguy and as he rams your little ass you see his man boobs flopping around almost hypnotically.
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>>182154593
cringe
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>>182152219
>he says when nobody brings it out in any way but IF
>and it's only used in decks that use the other far superior summoning methods
Yeah, great "fusion" design there.

>>182153869
Why not spend that on a deck that has more than sub 10% tops?
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>>182154903
It was made with Korea in mind
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>>182154903
>sub 10%
Forgot that it was actually a bit above, not below. My bad.
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>>182154903
>nobody brings it out in any way but IF
Where were you last format?
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>>182154890
Oh shut up you loved it.
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>>182155121
Does that mean our meta is weaker?
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>>182151508
do you even FOLLOW THE SUN
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>>182156152
That's why I said most and Sun Vulcan doesn't have combining mechs
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Super Quantums got ruined by Links. I don't think there's even any way to salvage them.
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>>182155287
Too bad Norden was only ever used to fuel even more degenerate Rank 4 faggotry. And I get that was meant to be point to synergize with Nyarla and Azzathoth, but nobody ever ran Lovecraft.dek.
At least if he stayed a degenerate in his own deck I wouldn't mind.
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>>182157681
just xyz universe 6-mat drancia and a felgrand into magnus lel
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>>182157681
Give them a Link monster that acts as their base and shits out their mechs into its link zones.
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>>182142127
>You can choose only one, /dng/.
Too late
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>>182157681
The got ruined by Kaijus years ago...
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>>182157681
>he thinks his deck got shafted by Links
At least you haven't been made *literally* unusable.
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>>182158676
Fuck you too Konami.
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>playing Lightsworns vs Cyberdarks
>he manages to have an out to everyone of my cards
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>>182158828
I'm sure there's going to be a generic link 3 that will make that thing busted.
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>>182158517
clear wing
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>finally get to test links
>can't fullscreen the client

FUCK
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>>182159191
If you just want a 1-card Link-3, fucking Genex is enough.
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>>182159879
>Genex is enough.
How?
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>>182160164
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>>182160410
>it has tits
For what purpose? Who would ever fap to this?
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>>182160909
Me
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>>182160410
Tier 0 material right here
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>>182160909
wait till you see her synchro
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Post ygopro skins please, i need ideas for a new custom playmat because muh columns
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>>182160410
>undine
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>>182160410
Today i learned, this bitch mills as a cost
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>>182165813
If it didn't, it wouldn't trigger the Atlanteans' effects.
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Can Rituals just get a new card color and/or updated mechanic?

It's so awkward to have 2 different mechanics be both blue, and no, the hexagons on Links don't make it any more acceptable. Just make Rituals red colored or bright orange with flames in the background like Links' hexagons.

Also let's just upgrade Rituals already. t this point they are just a combination of the worst aspects of the Fusion and Synchro mechanics, but even worse.

>Need a Spell Card
>Need to add up Levels
>Exist in Main Deck
Just make them exist in the Banished Zone since that's what so many of them are themed after. Then you can summon them with a Ritual Spell and tribute cards from your hand and/or field, OR use no Ritual Spell but must tribute from field. I know none of these color nor mechanics changes are necessary per se, but that would make Rituals unique and add flavor and option to the game instead of everything being Extra Deck or Dracos/Monarch Tributes.
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>>182165957
Nah, that's not exactly what i meant, its just that i haven't seen Undine being used in a damn while since Neptabyss just phased her out so i forgot she mills as a cost, for the time i've been playing yugioh with my petdeck, its rare to see good cards that mill as a cost like Lunalight Kaleido Chick, and Undine is actually good for what it does for Atlanteans.
Watch as everyone's going to buy Undines again once Neptabyss gets finally hit
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>>182166176
>Just make them exist in the Banished Zone since that's what so many of them are themed after.
???
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>>182166191

star boy retrain is coming too, gonna add to the hype.
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>>182166176
If Nekroz is anything to go by, what Ritual monsters need is to have effects in hand, and the Ritual spells are searchable and have an effect in grave that does something. And if Rituals were moved to the Extra deck, that would just kill them considering Master Rule 4
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>>182166709
This. Making future Ritual monsters do something in hand would go a long way towards making the mechanic useable without totally changing it like >>182166176
would want.
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>Edo actually beat Jack
The TCG actually threw GX a bone for once.
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>>182142127
Rebellion
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>>182167129
When?
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>>182170292
The live duel at the WCQ.
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>>182166709
What they need is to be left in the dust and forgotten.
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GOD PLEASE THE NEXT MAGIC BULLET HAS TO BE LV3 TIES OF THE BREATHEREN WOULD FIX THIS DECK!
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>>182166709
They just need to have an effect that justifies the hoops you have to jump through in order to summon them. So far, very few if any Rituals actually do that. Demise and maybe Herald were the only acceptable ones back when they were fresh, but they've been mostly creeped out.

Yeah, you need a lot of stuff to actually perform a Ritual summon, but don't forget they have some of the best generic support in the game.
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>>182152880
You'll get at least one dude who'll hit on you
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Look. As long as I can play any old Rituals nicely and playable I'm fine and adapt, I don't even need them to be meta or tier 0, just don't kill them like TCG did with HERO and Stratos
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>>182170942
Even if they don't get another, you can use Archfiend Eccentrick to make Ties live and get some extra removal on top of it
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>>182171000
This might be asking for a fucknig problem but if you really want something that supports every single ritual monster, make an advance ritual art that summons from the deck and use materials from the deck
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>>182166709
No, not Extra Deck. Make them be all exist in the Banished Zone face-down. Then you can summon them Without needing a Ritual a Spell but you must use Materials on the field only, or you may use a Ritual Spell and that would allow you to use Materials in your Hand and/or field.

>>182167008
Yes, it is a drastic change. But it would potentially give the game new options and new strategies by making the Banished Zone a new doorway into summoning monsters and incorporating it more actively into the game. That would also conveniently bypass the Main Deck bricking inherent in Rituals as well as the Extra Deck cucking that the Link format has heralded.
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>>182152880
In my locals the majority of the players are gay, you will be safe if you act as a fujo who loves YGO, but there is always that guy who wants their own Magician Girl, if you know what I mean.

But if they hit you and you reject them, they will just let it go and start playing card games again. Don't stop yourself of doing fun things just because you are afraid of some dicks.
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>>182171278
>let's upgrade rituals by completely changing them, down to having a different color
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>>182171194
That's actually another problem Rituals have from a design standpoint. They've been universally shit, which encouraged Konami to print things like Manju, Djinns, and Preparation. But uh oh, now that there's so much consistent viable support, it becomes even harder to justify printing a good Ritual monster because then you'd need to hit all the support, which is kind of what happened with Nekroz.
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>>182171278
>let's upgrade Rituals by basically removing what makes them unique and different
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>>182171278
Excuse my orthography but finally, there aren't that many Ritual Monsters in existence and of those even fewer have ever gotten reprinted so a drastic change in their mechanic and card color would not be difficult to work out. Just release a couple of new Ritual-focused boosters hat update the existing Ritual Monsters (which is around 65 cards).
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>>182171376
>In my locals the majority of the players are gay
That's gotta be statistically impossible
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>>182171932
Not if he's the only one who comes.
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>>182171932
What, do you get surprised when a gay bar is full of gay people too? YGO is our game.
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>>182171692
But they aren't different. They are basically Main Deck Synchros that require a Spell instead of a Tuner. Or they are just like Main Deck Fusions that require level adding.

And making them go into the Banished Zone is still something unique and different instead of Extra Deck which is clogged as it is.
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>>182171146
Yes but I'm just loving this archetype soo much. It's like actually managing a gun.
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>>182171278
>he says when the banished zone is already damn near another resource itself
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>>182172065
Then why don't we just invent a whole new area called the Ritual Zone where you can put only Rituals, since that would make them more unique, because by your retarded logic that would make them better.
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>>182171278
So how the fuck do rituals go in the banishment zone first?
Man your ideas are just retarded as fuck,

Rituals are slow and brick central, yes but Nekroz and even Gishki proved that Rituals can cause shitstorms because of their search power, just look at Full power nekroz, they looped their shit a lot. And for the regular rituals we have a lot dumb shit generic support like the Djinns of rituals except Releaser in the tcg which in the case of Releaser, makes having a fucking ritual monster be a Vanity's fiend, then there's pre-preparation which is a straight +1, you get to add the spell and the monster (yeah i know it doesn't search for every ritual because it needs the spell to have the name of the ritual monster, but its still a powerful searcher) and there is a damn reason why Preparation of Rites is limited.

Leave the new rule changing mechanic(s) to whatever that comes after VRAINS, because having a second extra deck just for Rituals is the dumbest idea ever since Extra deck equip cards because this shit would just make Pre-prep completely useless and it doesn't fix shit anything about the Rituals except just making them worse fusions like if they're not that already.
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Preparation of Rites was hit because of Nekroz, which is dumb because then they hit Nekroz hard enough the Preparation at 3 would make no difference.
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>>182172658
They would start in the banished zone I think. also it makes sense since rituals are part of the occult and deal with dimensional stuff like the banish themes do.
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>>182171932
Its true, a lot of gay people play YGO there, even the judge is gay.
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>>182173569
So basically the banish zone becomes a second extra deck. That's astoundingly stupid. Again, the one thing that makes Rituals unique, the one thing that keeps them from being pretty much the exact same as Fusion and Synchro is that they're Main Deck. Therefore, to make them better you should focus on that, such as making them able to do things in hand like Nekroz.
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>>182172658
You could always errata the search cards. Djinn and Pre-Prep could search Ritual Spells and/or monsters with the clause "cannot be tributed, discarded nor used as Material except for a Ritual Summon" PLUS Ritual Spells which would make the new Ritual Summoning easier. There is no Ritual Zone only the already existing Banished Zone. Having them in a new Zone fixes bricking because you don't need them in your hand. Think of Links, how you just "tribute" monsters instead of needing them to be both a certain level, or add levels, or require a Tuner/Fusion/Ritual Spell. You can use Rituals in the same way except without going in the Extra Monster Zone (for now in the Link era), and you can still use a Ritual Spell if you want but he Spell would make it easier to summon than without it just as an option.
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Zombie-exclusive Lavalval Chain when?
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>>182174021
There's nothing unique about being a Main Deck Synchro that requires a SPELL instead of a Tuner monster, that's exceedingly stupid considering you can at least use a Tuner to protect yourself or attack. But have it, play around with the cucked method Konami cooked up when he game was still in its experimental infancy stage like good goys.
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>>182174289
>There's nothing unique about...
>goes on to list what makes them unique
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>>182174613
B-but what if we changed them completely? Then people would totally like them despite not having any of the qualities that were appealing in the first place!
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>>182174104
>You could always errata the search cards
And this is EXACTLY why your idea is the most retarded thing, you're just doing unnecessary changes and if you think putting shit in the banishment zone face down is not any different to just have a damn extra deck exclusively for rituals then you are a double retard and as your post reads "You can use Rituals in the same way except without going in the extra deck (...) and you can still use the ritual spell if you want". Oh yeah you dumb retarded nigger, let's just scrap the idea for ritual spells because you don't need them, just randomly summon a level 8 and i can bring out Demise without losing any kind of advantage, pay the two stacks, destroy EVERYTHING then proceed to assrape my opponent
>inb4 strike
Repeat process because Demise is in my extra deck GG EZ.

I will repeat what i said, your idea is the dumbest shit since Extra deck equip cards
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>>182174289
>There's nothing unique about being a Main Deck Synchro that requires a SPELL instead of a Tuner monster
Show me these other main deck synchro monsters that require a spell instead of a tuner then, or possibly do you not fucking know what unique means
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>>182172658
>>182174779
All those things you listed are add-ons. Nekroz and the search cards are all exceptions to the rule. The horrid conditions for bricking are a built in part of the mechanic. Hardly appealing at all. If I wanted to Ritual summon a Ritual beater or splash a Ritual with a good effect I can't unless I dedicate my resources to Rtual Spells, search cards, and if they exist, related archetype cards, and THEN hope not to brick if I don't have the Spell AND the Ritual Monster AND the necessary tributes.

>>182174613
>>182174743
>Main Deck Synchro that must be in your hand before you can summon it except for a few exceptions
Wow, so unique and appealing, it's absolutely mesmerizing! It's about as unique as the Extra deck equip Spells. Why the hell would I use a mechanic as garbage as Ritual when there is the Extra Deck mechanics. Even in the Link era they are still bad because they brick you in ways that none of the other methods (even tributes) don't even with the Extra Deck cucking that has taken place.
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>>182174779
hell even Demise wouldn't be that bad compared to this nigga
>let's just make Quasar with worse stats but a better effect piss easy to summon
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>>182175094
So you care about something being unique even if it's fucking garbage? Boy, Konami should hire you, you'd make this game a lot more fun!

>B...but we can always work around the garbage mechanic by doing gimmicky things and having to release support to go around the shit instead of just making the shift built-in
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>>182175094
>Main Deck Synchro that requires a Spell

so, its just a white Fusion Monster?
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>>182175586
No, I never stated my opinion on rituals. I'm calling you a fucking idiot for not knowing what unique means
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>>182175430
> If I wanted to Ritual summon a Ritual beater or splash a Ritual with a good effect I can't unless I dedicate my resources to Rtual Spells
Is it really hard to just add two Preprep and a single ritual monster + its spell?
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>>182175687
>Not knowing why I don't care why they're unique even though they are not very unique nor usefully unique
And you must be a paragon of wisdom
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>>182176567
>not very unique
Confirmed for absolutely no fucking clue what the word unique means
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>>182175781
Yes because Link Xyz and Fusion (and to a lesser extent Pendulum and Synchro) don't require this
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>>182176657
>Tries to derail the conversation by trying to focus autistically on a words meaning even to the detriment of he point of the conversation
Boy you sure showed me
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>>182176771
I can give you links and xyz but fusion, my nigga?
The only relevant fusion monster that could be in literally every deck was Norden and he (thankfully) got banned, you still need to splash fusion oriented cards and while Instant Fusion still has its purposes, what about Brilliant fusion? You need a shitty gem knight and seraphinite to get this shit going.
>inb4 Thesus is broken!!!
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>>182176942
>Why are you bringing up the fact that one of my points is based on misuse of a word
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>>182177078
What, common? I already have 3 German supers... Unless it's ulti?
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>>182176771
That's the fucking point though. You're meant to build your deck *around* a Ritual monster(s). It's been this way since the beginning dude.
The problem is just that Rituals aren't strong enough to be worth summoning anymore. Trust me, if a Ritual was released who's power level is comparable to Demise in 2008 it would be worth the effort of making a deck around it.
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>>182178234
Fuck that exodia mat, i want the one below just because honeybot is cute
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>>182178234
>people still try to make Exodia work
truly a legend
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>heartlandraco for game in Dragon Duel finals
>Pend Mags beat TD Zoo

Who else at Nats?
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>>182179943
>Pend magicians beat TD Zoos
Oh great, now percy will be full of pend magician players just like when a Dinomist deck topped on a tournament full of zoos, everyone was playing Dinomist (or at least a bunch of players because on that day, i dueled against Dinomist a lot)
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>>182180337
Let me guess, someone sided out Denko Sekka on him or he "bricked" or get got outplayed because chainburn relies on the opponent having a big field
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>>182178535
Banning Exodia could fix this game and bring back Pot of Greed.
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>>182180705
I didn't lose to Denko once, I outted the one Denko used in me. I lost to not drawing draw cards, and getting double twin-Twistered during an EP. I beat 2 Zoo decks, 2 Dinos, 1 Pend Mag and lost to True Draco and Invoked.
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>>182172017
Where's your proof?
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Pendulum Evolution boxes are like $40 now. Dimensional Guardians $20. Will Light's Revenge hold value in a month when Links are out?
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>>182180337
Fuck you for continuing to be a cunt and posting me when I've expressly asked you not to, you're obviously too deep into le bantz xd to be a human being and follow a simple request instead of being a dick. And fuck you for dragging the Discord drama shit into thread for the (You)s.
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>>182180814
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>>182180337

explain
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>>182180814
top kek
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Is now the time to get pend magicians?
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>>182181780
Deck'll be worth pennies in a few weeks but I guess you can jump now if you want. I'd wait for Calls and Jokers to drop in price though.
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>>182181780
They would have been Tier 1 and arguably better than Zoo/True if it weren't for Links.
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>>182178368
>Have my own Honeybot mat and plan to get a yugioh day mat just for Honeybot

Why is Honeybot one of the best waifus in a long time?
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>>182181230
The cards inside are valuable in a sense since they're all really good. In a monetary sense, not so much. I expect boxes to drop to $40 and stay there. PEVO boxes are cheap because it's somewhat of small set and isn't really good if you aren't looking to build Pendulum Magicians. DPDG is garbage and shouldn't be touched by anyone.
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>>182183614
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CvqmD0CZao
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>>182183914
I'm honestly surprised that any vendors were dumb enough to get Dimensional Guardians in the first place. They had to have known there was no way to profit on a set that bad?
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>>182183984
I don't even have to open the link to guess what video that is but I'm gonna do it anyway
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Where the fuck are the deck breakdowns from wcq?
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>>182183614
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7ok5AV7ZrM
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https://youtu.be/W2xwJXxacHY

Aster Phoenix Vs Jack Atlas Vs Pegasus from NAWCQ
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>>182185431
This song is actually kinda fun to listen to
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What is the funnest or most interesting deck you've ever seen?
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How could i improve this /dng/?

>>182183614
https://youtu.be/UFFRAscYXPk
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>>182185493
>Jack Atlas is now Kingu Dedede
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>that little kid playing pendulum magicians at worlds
>mfw he topdecks dark hole when master peace on opponents field is immune to monsters and traps
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>>182185493
Why is it that peoples voices never seem to match up with what you imagine them to look like?
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>>182186081
on percy i played against this jank deck that used some weird monster that gained levels and attack whenever he destroyed something, sacked me hard
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>>182185493
>Whoa that was pretty cooalll!
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>>182187145
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>>182186427
Video or it didn't happen
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>>182187484
Look about 2 hours earlier in the stream, the Pend Mag player's name is Ryan Yu.
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>>182186118
you should remove the zones, but that's more of a personal preference for me
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>>182186427
Nats* Dragon Duels*
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>>182188620
>dragon duels
no shit retard, he said, "that little kid"
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>>182186118
>no space for links
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>>182183614
She is really useful.
Sure, her effect is obligatory and can be a double-edge card, but it's pretty useful, specially for my card.
Same goes with Proxy Dragon, it's basically the second effect of "Hymn of Light" or "Return of the Dragon Lords" for monsters he is pointing.
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Give me your ERECT images
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>>182189934
Don't have one.
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>>182189934
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>>182177078
>Luna
Why does KoA hate the Fairy Tails?
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>>182189934
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>>182190107
It just sucks that they stopped with Maximum Crisis before giving them enough cards for them to be a coherent archetype.
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>>182185493
That fucking Battle Fader. I wasn't paying attention to the time and thought the duel was over
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>>182190553
After playing the fairy tails for a while, they don't exactly have much synergy with each other outside of Kaguya searching the other three, Talia flipping to summon Snow white is hilarious and Talia makes shit like fossil dig or rota become book of moon and Cinderella being able to being a hidden armory with legs is busted mainly because of the bambooswords, the new bamboo sword just made ths shit gross.

Speaking of that new bamboo sword, i hope that shit is enough excuse to finally ban Royal Magical Library
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>>182190553
They're working pretty alright in my level 4 light spellcaster ties deck
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>>182190050
>>182189934
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In the anime, Kamion's effect was to shuffles all monsters the opponent controls back into the deck and inflict 500 damage for each one. This is the real version.

In the anime, Gabrion the Timelord shuffled all cards the opponent controls into the deck. Vidya Gabrion targeted 1 opponent's card and shuffled it back into the deck. So what will the irl Gabrion do next year?
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Leaks?
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>>182192610
Let me spoil it for you.
It's all shit.
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>>182167129
Ey! they have to sell Edo's heros
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>>182192063
>nerfing Timelords when all they do is just be more elaborate Beelzes.

For what purpose?

But going by trends, Gabrion will copy the Tag Force effect or end up being a worse version of it somehow like what they did to Berserker Soul.
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>>182192998
Why did BS need to be nerfed again?
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>>182192774
You don't know it.
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>>182192063
Gabrion will let you see the opponent hand let you choose one of those cards and then shuffle it into the deck.
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>>182193316
>make a deck full of direct attack monsters
>stack the deck when nobody looks
>get an attack in
>use BS and scream MONSTA CAADO for 2 minutes as you mill your entire deck to draw a S/T which stops the effect.
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>>182192063
It's for that reason I don't really care about Gabrion because there's almost no chance of it being better than Kamion. Raphion, Michion, Hailon, and Sandaion all have much more potential, especially since doing damage is what Timelords are currently worst at.
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>>182193632
Sounds pretty sweet
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>>182185493
>opening Toon Red-eyes, Dark Magician and Blue-eyes

Is this even remotely consistent in Toons or are hexproof beatsticks not enough in the meta?
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I have a feeling that the Yugi Legendary Dragon deck is going to be full of crap like Berserker's Soul instead of good reprints while the other 2 will have great cards.
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>>182194608
>Legendary decks
You can bet your ass it's going to be full of shitty cards plus 1 or 2 good cards.
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>>182193316
SHS exist.
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>>182142127
One of the reasons I hate the new rules the most is because I can't make a field of these dragons anymore.

>>182132965
I agree with you, it looks like fused with the pendant
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>>182194951
And?
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True King Zoo beats pure Zoo in Chicago
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>>182196745
Well obviously they were looking 20 years in the future when they were changing the card.
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>>182185493
>sacrificing Jack on the altar of shilling fucking Destiny Heroes
I liked the boo when Destiny Hero 5Dsguy was summoned.
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>>182197047
Why is this card so fucking ugly? Why was any part of this card allowed?
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>>182196814
>game 3
>go second
>open maxx cheese
>win
what a shit game
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>>182197136
Literally one of the most pointless ultimate ace monsters of Arc-V. All it did was buy Yugo a couple turns just to lose to BS plot devices since Yuri has the most broken cards out of any Arc-V character except Zarc himself.
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>>182197212
>People don't go for Maxx C challenges
Suckettes
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>>182186118
It does me or this robot is kinda attractive?
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>>182197527
Even if you play a deck that could deck the opponent out in a Maxx C challenge, it's not worth it anymore due to the high chance of them drawing into Ghost Ogre and/or Ash Blossom and disrupting your plays.
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>>182197136
It doesn't even make sense in any way. It doesn't have any synergy with the deck it was used in, It doesn't have anything to do with the card it was an upgrade to. It was fucking stupid. Nearly every other upgraded boss has a similar effect to its predecessor.
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>>182197882
The D Hero gimmick is that they're all shit, have random garbage effects, and don't synergize at all whatsoever with literally nothing in common, so Dusktopia is actually a perfect fit in the archtype.
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>>182198212
>The D Hero gimmick is that they're all shit, have random garbage effects, and don't synergize at all whatsoever with literally nothing in common,
so they took a page from the spacian archetype
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>>182198212
>The D Hero gimmick is that they're all shit
They're definitely not /all/ shit, and wasn't their gimmick everything happening in future standby phases to go along with the whole destiny buisness.
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>>182198392
It's the other way around the spacians copied D-heroes.Only D-heroes had a couple of cards that made them good for deck thining.
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>>182198212
They had a gimmick and a ton of them were meta in the past. The problem with this card aside from how it looks is that it doesn't fit with the monster it is an upgrade of,
CWSD is clearly an upgrade of CWSD. Same type of effect and they look similar.
DRXD is clearly an upgrade of DRXD. Same type of effect and they look similar.
Tyrant is clearly an upgrade of Scarlight. Same type of effect and they look similar.
GVFD is clearly an upgrade of SVFD. Same type of effect and look.
NGECD is clearly an upgrade of GECD. Same type of effect and look.
Arc-V was good at doing that. Then you look at that abortion of a monster called Duskutopia Guy. It has nothing in common with the monster it is an upgrade of aside from a D slapped on its face. No similar effect either. It's fucking terrible and the worst upgrade in the history of the franchise. They didn't even bother making a holo for the Japanese version and I doubt it'll ever be reprinted. The Japanese hate that card.
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Should I bother with a barrageless zoo engine in Pend Magicians after links drop? I used it for easy drident but now it seems like it will clog if I can't get a link on board and tenki might be a problem with s/t space.
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>>182199218
>It's fucking terrible and the worst upgrade in the history of the franchise.

>What is Red-eyes Black Metal Dragon
>What is Blue-eyes Shining Dragon
>What is Cyber Barrier Dragon/Cyber Laser Dragon
>What is anything relating to Neos
>What is almost anything which takes a RUM
>What is Odd-eyes Saber Dragon
>What is Raidraptor - Final Fortress Falcon
>What is Greedy Venom Fusion Dragon

There are tons of worse cards out there senpai
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so i did this
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>>182199794
>>182163840
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>>182199787
Those are all better than Duskutopia. At the very least many of them look the part and are thematic. Black Metal is a vanilla like Red-Eyes, Barrier/Laser look like Cyber Dragon, Neos upgrades are better than Neos, RUM is fine, Saber is better, FFF is way better and Greedy is way better. You don't seem to understand just how bad this card is.
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If you use cards not from the original show you're a cuck imo
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>>182200476
>not playing Cap Mon, the true OG Yu-Gi-Oh game
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>>182200029
what did you mean by this
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>>182200939
you wanted ygopro skins, dont you?
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>>182201131
i guess you could use that as a skin yeah
ty but i finished my stuff
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>>182201253
skin is general term to me, I just customized my ygo pro
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Anyone interested in seeing what's in these bad boys?
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>>182201550

neat
i was talking about field themes to slap on a playmat. ended up doing it myself for a simpler design
>>182186118

>>182189171
link zones are inbetween the two player tho
>>182188109
needed them for muh columns cards
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>>182201969
Forgot pic, damn.
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>>182202212
Enjoy losing money.
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>>182202212
Have fun with your new Lightsworn deck.
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>>182202212
Sure but I bet it's all trash.
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>>182202212
Send me Break Swords
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>>182202212
>>182203163
How's two Minerva? Decent?
>>182202463
If I get the Lightsworn deck, at least I'll have some stuff to add into it.
>>182203302
I would, but I didn't get any. Sorry.
>>182202282
I have disposable income. I like buying cards.
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>Considered joining the discord
>its full of SJW chainburn faggots that actually bring the deck seriously to an event
Embarrassing!
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>>182204625
But I'm not even in there anymore
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>>182204625
Fuck Iron Core
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>>182204870
You'll be back, you always come back Iron Core.
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>>182204940
Not if all I get there is shittalking. Also I can't even get back in without an invite.
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>>182204625
YO
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>>182199794
>Invoked Knights
Sounds inconsistent
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>>182204625
Wait did he actually bring it? I was at a wualifiers last weekend and fought 2 burn decks.
>when you duel someone from dng face to face
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>>182205483
What were you playing, anon.
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>>182205589
Like hell I'm going to let you know who I was! Last thing I need is getting raided by a fat fuck.
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>>182204625
the discord is alive?
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>>182202212
>mystery power box
What the fuck is this?
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in order to improve the quality of this thread, I'm putting my trip back on and pointing out Iron Core lost to me in a shadow duel
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>>182207210
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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>>182207127
Just barely.
Iron is thhere to be bullied.
All the mods except Scorp and Akari circlejerk with each other and lock the channel from the rest of us.
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>>182207317
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>>182207210
I never lost to you faggot, you lost to my meme Toad deck with your shit ABCs.
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>>182207424
>tfw got reminded of Disaster Dragon

Would 3 REDMD even be that bad today with FF nerfed and Grass at 1?

It doesn't even interact that well with all the new dragon support.
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>>182072641
MR is less damaging that raigeki.
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>>182079618
>BLS is just waiting to be abused.
Dude he's been free for 5+ years and remains untouched. All these modern cards have better removal and allow you to rape someone's face at the same time. I get it, you're an older player but the game has moved on.
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So Brilliant Fusion isn't used in the OCG yet the price keeps rising in the TCG. Am I missing something?
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>>182210073
Yes the TCG is retarded
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>>182210073
Muh Firewall Dragon masturbation
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>>182207135
Has 1 pack each of Legacy of the Valiant, Primal Legacy and Judgement of the Light, sometimes an older 4th one. An old structure deck, usually Zombie World or Dragunity. Can sometimes have a graded card (worth nothing), a BP3 playmat or a Hobby League pin. Don't buy ever
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>>182209851
I know you're shitposting, but BLS isn't a generic staple. There hasn't been a viable Chaos deck in years. You can't just slap some Doomcalibers into ABCs and expect to summon it consistently.

And BLS hasn't been free. It's been at 1 for over a decade. It only recently got off the OCG banlist, and in that case we go to the above point.
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rate my deck

>tfw can't build this irl because desires is expensive
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>>182213667
0/10 delet
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>>182132779
>Odd-Eyes Cyber Dragon

top kek

and probably CyDras will get their own Link Monster.
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>>182210073
Brick Fusion is a meme pushed by duelistgroundz to sell a vanilla at high prices.
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>>182132779
>>182132965
All I know is, if this is supposed to be Odd-Eyes's upgraded form, I hope it has a similar condition to Odd-Eyes Phantasm Dragon from the manga, in that it can be Pendulum Summoned regardless of what your scales are if there is a face-up Odd-Eyes in your ED.
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Why Pojo did a Vandread archetype Guide? wtf
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>>182214010
and miss out on boards like this? no way!
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>>182207210
And who the fuck are you and why does it matter that you beat Iron Core?
I did that days ago and i humiliated him or shit
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Oh it's based on Yuya's Pendulum.
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>konami wont even release the decklists for top 32
safe to say they were all zoo
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>>182218443
year. At least the other areas fully acknowledge how fucked up the meta is and release decklist.

I don't ever want to here why another emergency banning is justified(they never learn their lesson it's coming.) when we have also similar numbers with zoo and it's barely touched.
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Extra Deck Equips/Spells, fucking when?
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>>182220686
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>>182220686
armory arm and drl2 joey memes
some effs might as well be spells
pay attention already, we've told you this a couple times now
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>>182221013
A Link version of Armory Arm could be really funny if the link markers are Up and Down.
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>>182221525
Armory archetype in which its a Link 3 monster that is the torso and you have to align the limbs on him, armory arms, armory legs and armory helm
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>>182221648
So link exodia
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>>182213667
Wait for promo Desires in the Mega tins
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>>182181395
>posting a picture of yourself on the internet
>ever
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opinions on littlekuribo?
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>>182227229
cucked
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>page 10
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>>182231520
>time
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why is iron core scrubbing out with nurse burn a meme now? Honestly props to him for not bringing zoo and infuriating all the shitters who lost to triple gift card
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>>182232621
It wasn't nurse burn. The retard threw in Time lords. And lost to me. I remember him now from that face someone posted earlier of him/her.
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>>182232758
Invite to discord?
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Are all pro shitters this delusional?
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>the scoop after you kaiju their first turn crystal wing
classic
why do faggots playing windwitch not just accept that this is going to happen to them alot?
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>>182235459
If you're playing with shitters then you're a shitter
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>Make Timelord burn deck
>Ring of Destruction my Metaion
>Chain 2 Metalmorphs as it attacks a Crystal Wing so it crashes and does 3000 damage as well as not being destroyed
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Coming back to Yu-gi-oh after nearly a decade break. Have my heart set on playing a Red-Eyes Deck. What are some good pendulum monsters for such a deck?
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>>182235925
Go home Shun, even you aren't usually this drunk
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Is there any way to remove the watermark from Legacy of the Duelist?
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>>182236864
photoshop
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>>182236032
This is some really good bait.
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>>182237050
Too obvious to be good bait.
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>>182237239
I dunno man, everything he said could very plausibly be the truth. It's the specific, layered combination that tips it off.
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>>182236032
Pendulums got killed and retconned by Konami's new paywall: Link monsters. If you want to extra deck summon, you need link monsters first to give you zones for the extra monsters. Buy link monsters, otherwise all decks are bad. In fact so bad you don't have to buy anything released this year
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>>182237464
>Link monsters
So I can't even XYZ Summon without them now?
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>>182237723
No. Nothing. Not even Pendulums from the extra deck are mass summonable now. If anyone tells you to buy link monsters ignore them, they are either a konami shill or a complete buffoon.
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>>182237723
You can summon one at the time.
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>>182238216
>>182238340
Thats kind of fucked up. Are they trying to slow the game back down? The only reason I picked it back up was because its so fast now.
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>>182238340
Well that's fuckin bullshit. What good does a solo Castel on the field fucking do? How is this general even alive after these new rules?
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>>182238394
Yes. The game was becoming "I go first I make unbreakable board, you go second and try to break it"
>>182238405
Because it's fun
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>>182181010
That is actually fairly accurate. Chain Burn is far from being consistent. Open 5 burn cards but cant kill them you lose. Open 1 draw card but it gets Ash'd you lose. end phase twin twister high chance of losing.

Very suprising you beat dino decks considering they can negate 3 cards with diagram + baby dinosaur then otk the next turn. Anyways I know bullying you is what all cool kids do but props on ass raping those zoo decks with burn.
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>>182238394
Link deck is still fast though.
As fast as Dark Synchro.
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>>182238405
>How is this general even alive after these new rules?
>OP is from 2 days ago
Not really.
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>>182238674
Don't encourage you fucking retard.
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>>182238674
That's because everyone migrated to discord
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>>182213667
This looks pretty cool but I dont recognize all cards. Can I get a list ? I never tried toad paleo aquactress
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>>182238394
At their core links are less restrictive synchros, the potential for them be even more retarded than their predecessors is there. They're only really slow now because we need to get through the early slog of bad ones, like other new mechanics
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>>182225231
>Implying I posted it in the Discord
I'm my that dumb, someone else found it and started posting it.
>>182232758
Were you the TD or Invoked player?
>>182238552
Maybe 20% of people mained Ash. But even thing 11 draw cards didn't let me open any always.
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>>182232758
>>182239021
Also fuck you the Timelords were an amazing side, at least against pure True Draco, which was the only bad meta matchup I went in expecting to see.
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>>182238394
The game was becoming retardedly fast. You would just do everything in your first turn, so everyone would use either traps that doesn't need a turn to setup, or the trap would have to say "Your opponent stops playing."
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>>182239664
You are retarded if you think link monsters are slow. So retarded I'm calling pojo to take you back.
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>>182238394
Not really slow the game. It does mess up many combos with extra deck spam, but Konami has link monsters for sale that will allow you quite a few of those combos to go off. It really hasnt hurt the best decks anyways. Just pay up for the hottest new link card to play
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Destiny Board is so fucking satisfying
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Watch it fly by
As the pendulum swings
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Defeating Iron Core is so fucking satisfying.
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>>182240028
WATCH IT COUNT DOWN TO THE END OF THE DAY
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>>182238405
You use that Castel as material for a Link summon, easy.
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>>182239824
The fact that there aren't many link monsters around shows that they are still too slow to be competitive. It will take a year or more until links are as fast as people think it will be.
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>>182240049
why is iron core a meme? beating chain burn is not some grand accolade to shitpost about.
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>>182240178
The clock ticks life away
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>go to Nats
>No one makes a new thread
I'm on mobile, someone else had to do it
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>>182240613
>>182240613
>>182240613
>>182240613
>>182240613
New thread
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>>182240197
>implying all competitive deck is fast
>implying fast deck must be competitive
C'mon.
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>>182240675
>implying I said any of this
Holy shit, you can't just make shit up.
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>>182241114
>The fact that there aren't many link monsters around shows that they are still too slow to be competitive
>too slow to be competitive
Yeah, you do.

And while I'm at it.
>implying there's a correlation between the number of link monsters around to their speed
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>>182241716
Being too slow to be competitive doesn't mean that the meta is fast only, summoning Great Moth or Gate Guardians has always been too slow, but it doesn't mean that their meta was fast only.

>number of link monsters
Not quantity, quality. Also, not only the link monsters, but also support for it. The speed of a mechanic relies entirely on what you have, and not what you could theoretically get.
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>>182242431
>still implying there's a correlation between speed of the deck and being competitive
And you know what? Link deck is fast as fuck.
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>>182242431
There's still no relation between the speed of the mechanic and competitiveness.

>The speed of a mechanic relies entirely on what you have, and not what you could theoretically get.
Yeah, and even with the little support from a mere 2 set they have, Link is already fast as fuck.
Ever tried one?
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>>182242623
If there are 2 equal decks in power and one is faster than the other, the faster one will be stronger, and thus more competitive.

Being fast is an advantage, if the deck is slow as shit, it needs to be much much stronger than faster decks to compensate for its lack of speed.
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>>182242876
Tell that to Spellbook in DRuler era.
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>>182242876
First, it's impossible for a deck to be equal in power but not equal in speed.

And all you're saying is that the power of the deck comes first to decides which deck is competitive, not the speed of the deck.
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>>182242828
>link is fast as fuck
If you opponent does absolutely nothing, yes. Most of what I have seen, literally stops on their tracks if they can't summon their monster spammer. Now try to stop zoos from playing, they have like 8 different ways to end up with almost the same board.
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>>182243149
And zoo can't do anything if their opponent stops their combo starter.
What's your point, again?

Also, you're talking about their resilience, not their speed at all.
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>>182221013
>not Synchro Union
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>>182243102
So, you are saying that speed should be considered when talking about a deck power? Even if you definition of speed is different than mine, you are still with me that speed of a mechanic is correlated with its competitiveness.
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>>182243302
No, since it's impossible for two deck to have equal power but difference in speed, speed doesn't mean shit in deciding whether a deck is competitive.
It's all about power.
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>>182243256
>stopping a zoo combo starter
You have to literally negate their entire hand, since they can consistently start their shit 3 different ways on the same first turn. Show me your link deck that can consistently make a strong board while being negated. Protip: you can't, and this is why link is not competitive right now, it only works in christmasland.
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>>182243473
I repeat.
You're talking about resilience, not speed.
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>>182243405
I don't even know what speed means to you. But a deck that can make 3 plays on the same turn is faster than a deck that can only do 1. And if all the plays ends with a 2k monster, the deck that is faster is also stronger.
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>>182243554
Speed of a deck is its average speed against another competitive deck. Not how fast it is when you opponent sits on their thumb while you have the perfect hand.
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>>182243575
>a deck that can make 3 plays on the same turn is faster than a deck that can only do 1.
So you're saying Zoodiac is slow?
It's versatility, by the way, not speed.

>all the plays ends with a 2k monster
That's power.

C'mon dude.
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>>182243682
It's impossible for speed to decides the competitiveness of a deck then.
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>>182243708
>Zoodiac is slow
Zoodiac makes a shitton of plays with just a single card in your hand. Versatility is the ability to make different boards that can deal with different situations, and zoodiac had no versatility since there was no reason to end up with a tiger when you could go all the way to drancia and the other stuff.

Actually, Zoodiac would kill versatility, since it would eat a shitton of ED, preventing you from using more situational stuff.

>That's power
That's what I meant. And since one of the decks is faster, it made 3 of them, which means more power than the one that was slower. So power is correlated to speed.
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>>182242949
Yes, that is actually an example of what I said. That even though speed is an advantage, if the slower deck is much much stronger, it will still win.

>>182243943
Holy shit. Speed is a factor, just like power of the cards, and other stuff. Even something like availability of a card can affect its competitiveness.
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>>182243970
>Zoodiac makes a shitton of plays with just a single card in your hand.
Actually, it's just a single play.

>That's what I meant. And since one of the decks is faster, it made 3 of them, which means more power than the one that was slower. So power is correlated to speed.
You're getting it backward.
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>>182244098
>Yes, that is actually an example of what I said. That even though speed is an advantage, if the slower deck is much much stronger, it will still win.
>implying Spellbook is stronger than DRuler
Seriously?

>Holy shit. Speed is a factor, just like power of the cards, and other stuff. Even something like availability of a card can affect its competitiveness.
But, according to you, you can't measure speed without an established competitiveness of a deck.
Therefore it doesn't affect the competitiveness.
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>>182244198
>It's just a single play
So, if I summon rat, and it there, it is 1/20th of a play?

>backward
Either you don't know what it means, or you think that summoning 3 mosters is slower than summoning 1.

>>182244330
>implying spellbook is stronger than DRuler
Are you implying that DRuler is faster than fucking Spellbook?

>you can't measure speed without an established competitiveness of a deck
It's a closed-loop iteraction. Or do you think metas just suddenly happen? Have you actually ever tried to build a competitive deck taht didn't involve netdecking it?
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>>182244606
>Are you implying that DRuler is faster than fucking Spellbook?
Yes?
It's an established fact that Spellbook is slow as shit.
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>>182244879
>spellbook spam half its deck
>its slow as shit
They are weak in power, not speed.
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>>182245080
>basically NS a monster, set 5 pass
>not slow as shit
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>>182245275
Wait, so if you are talking about that era spellbook, are you just illiterate? I said that being fast is an advantage, so a slow deck needs to be much stronger to win. And in that era, DRuler was both faster and stronger, so there isn't any point to this.
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>>182244606
>>182245080
Oh I get it.
Did you really measure speed by the number of action a deck does in a turn?
That would mean Exodia Library is fast as fuck then. And since it win by an alt wincon, that means it's also strong as fuck.

That means Link is also fast as fuck. Even if you take into account the disruption, Link can still do tons of action in a turn.
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>>182245505
But Spellbook IS competitive in that era.
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>>182245541
Exodia is fast as fuck, but not strong, since it can't consistently pull its win con.

Link CAN do a lot of shit in a turn, but either you can make them completely stop, or they will have to wait on a board that is very weak or vulnerable. So they can't consistently be fast and strong enough.
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>>182245652
DRuler is even considered a tier 0 by many at the time, what are you talking about?
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>>182245832
>Exodia is fast as fuck, but not strong, since it can't consistently pull its win con.
Now you're adding consistency to this shit.
C'mon, that's another parameter entirely.

>Link CAN do a lot of shit in a turn, but either you can make them completely stop, or they will have to wait on a board that is very weak or vulnerable. So they can't consistently be fast and strong enough.
Do you even know how many action needed just to make that very weak or vulnerable board?
They ARE consistently fast.
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>>182245924
I don't have chart handy, but at that era, it's about 70:30 for DRuler against Spellbook.
30% of the meta IS competitive, but 70% of the meta can also be considered as tier 0.
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>>182246046
>That's another parameter
Guess what, even is a card is easy to get or not affects its competitiveness.

>they ARE consistently fast
There is no point in being faster if you will end up with a very weak board. Exodia can also make a board, but it's a very weak one.
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>>182246268
I'm glad we can agreed that the reason Link isn't competitive is their power, not their speed.
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