/arena/ - Arena FPS General

we let it die again

good work boys

Fuq

>>181767952
>ranger eating cheerios off of slash's ass
I need an explanation

>>181770207
>>181746436

esdf movement seems potentially patrician, never really considered it before it allows for a couple extra nearby keybindings

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Why is she so cute bros?

>get killed
>leave game

can you stop?
i'd rather not play a 3v4

what's wrong with ca as a mode

>>181773367
quitters need to be culled

>>181774105
its boring, unoriginal, overplayed, and generally devolves into spam rather than teamplay

>>181773367
there's no leave penalty YET
it's still beta

>>181774105
one reason people dislike it is because the removal of map-based pickups takes away a lot of strategy. There's no risk-taking to acquire stack. also no self damage means anyone can rocket jump around like an idiot and there's no risk/reward there either. personally I love ca though, and area control is still vitally important. the team playing better together will usually win but there is a ton of spam because everyone has so much ammo. some spam is sorta skill based, like when you shoot a couple rockets at a doorway because you have a feeling an opponent might walk through it soon. but with CA on a map like Hidden Fortress literally up to 100% of the round can be taken up by people standing almost perfectly still, firing rockets blindly into the hallways.
It's a lazy man's tdm in some ways, but i love one life per round and getting to spectate others, many would call that boring though. People who don't enjoy it get understandably butthurt that it's popular, probably wishing modes like ctf/tdm were the most popular instead.

Question to people that using M2 to jump.
Doesn't it disturb your aim?

>m2 disturbing your aim
>using anything else to jump
wtf

>>181777409
Your mouse is too light if clicking it disturbs your aim, otherwise actually shooting would disturb your aim as well.

>>181778356
I'm not using it just yet, it just seems kinda silly to me. Same for moving forward with M2.

>>181778347
I'm playing quake for like a week maybe.

>>181779641
just like awping in csgo works better if you fire with spacebar jumping with m2(right hand) works better while your left does the directional inputs for better timings

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i wish that the afps genre wasn't so dead tbqh

>>181781954
I'm just hoping QC won't be dead on arrival, I wanna curbstomp millennial poserfags.

>>181779641
Don't fall for the M2 jump memers just do whatever's comfortable. I switch between the two in defrag and it's purely personal preference.

ded

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>>181770979
is it really needed with a decent mouse though? i used to play esdf in q3 when i had a shittier mouse but now i have a g400s and use:

mwheelup lg
mwheeldown rg
mouse3 gauntlet
mouse4 rail
mouse5 tribolt thing

that only leaves 3 guns, which you can easily bind around wasd, i use q-shotgun e-machine gun and r-nailgun

>>181770979
I'm using

SF strafe
RMB forward S backward
A jump
Z crouch
LShift walk
G ability
QWERXCV weapons

rate

>>181789632
spacebar for zoom obviously

>>181789632
>S backward
D*
never drunkposting ever again

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>>181776742

>but i love one life per round and getting to spectate others

get the fuck out and never come back, there's already a popular game for faggots just like you

>>181789632
What is the most effective setup? Is it what works best or is there a specific way that is the most efficient?

I use default aside from a few weapon binds

>>181782108
Post ur qlstats page if ur so great

>>181796070
Whatever allows you to instantly hit the keys you need without fucking up your ability to move.

>>181797378
this

ded

>>181797265
>not playing cpma

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best girl when

>>181803289
never

>>181803289
Bone fucking when? He can laugh and rattle like Spinal
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wbBcSp8bp0A

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>>181806384
YES PLEASE

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>>181806384
How can ID say no to such a hunk as bones?

queue up nerds

>>181809985
RATTLE ME BOOOOOOONES

>>181812827
What game?

>>181814035
Spin the wheel

>>181776742
Tbh I think it's a fine entry into the game. I learned a lot in my newb days by spectating after I died. And nowadays I prefer duel, but CA is fine if i just want to casually shoot around. I can shoot the shit and when I die I can take a breather, grab a drink, take a piss, alt tab to my second monitor and shitpost on discord, etc. TDM, on the other hand, lasts too long and is just mind numbingly boring 100% of the time on public servers. And it requires my attention all the time. Fuck that.

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>tfw full speed double gauntlet first blood

Feels incredible.
Actually I've noticed that I barely even use dual wield anymore, mostly for gauntlet in close combat.

>>181817606
There's no point in using dual wield if you're playing the distance.
It only good on mid and close range guns like lightning or machinegun.

>>181818391
Dual machinegun was heavily nerfed though.

>>181818463
huh?
what happened?

I'm a total noob when it comes to arena shooters. Was thinking of starting with UT4. Is that a good idea?

>>181819635
Come to Quake Champions and play with me.

t. total noob

>>181819635
Yes. It has loads of noobs. Play whatever you like best, anon.

>>181809985
>>181807507
>>181806384
>>181816059
>>181814035

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCxX7_s-7D4

Queuing up for ffa is so fucking stupid.

>join queue
>wait five minutes
>check if there's a populated ql server
>join that instead

And then when the map ends we just vote for another one instead of queuing up who god knows how long again.

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>>181818645
>Slow firing weapons (RL, RG, SG, TB) now at 1.5x
>Reduced rate of fire to 1.25x for high rate of fire weapons (Gauntlet, Machinegun, Nailgun, Heavy Machinegun, Super Nailgun, and Lightning Gun)

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>>181824081
Now we need a Ranger frag video with 'Thru the Walls' playing in the background

>open QC
>wait 3 minutes
>search for a game
>wait 2 minutes
>game found
>wait 1 minute for the game to start
>play for 10 minutes
>game ends
>wait for 1 minute
>search for a game
>wait for 2 minutes
>close QC

>>181829139
>game found
>wait 30 seconds
>load in
>wait a minute
>wait 30 seconds
>play the game
>game ends
>wait 30 seconds
>wait for the map to cycle or more realistically for everyone to quit and re-queue before it does

I honestly don't even know if the map cycles or not.

>>181829139
Spoiled fucking babby.

>>181829880
yeah spoiled by well coded games, like, uhm, every single quake game before? you stupid fucking nigger

>>181830140
Fuck off underage, you have no idea what you're talking about.

>>181830410
Yeah I really loved waiting for matchmaking to let me join a game in quake 3.

I was gonna ask if they fixed stutters/netcode/q but reading this thread I already know the answer. Well, QL is still fun so whatever

>>181830410
Point and laugh at this little nigglet

>>181830410
except he does, in any other quake save for 4 maybe you launch, open server browser and join
now you have to wait to find people in queue, wait for a server, wait for chucklefucks to click ready, wait for map vote, and then have a warmup

I'd like to get into arena fps. Which game has the bigger playerbase?

>>181830754
Try the free ones listed in the OP

>>181830582
>>181830538
>>181830473
Newfags don't even see the difference between Q3 steam servers and new game that is in CBT stage with no playerbase.

Even in Dota 2 the queue times were abysmal for everyone at the beginning of the open beta and are still extreme for everyone with high mmr - the reason why all high mmr players just make smurf accounts to play in mid-range mmr ranked without waiting for 30-60+ minutes.

The fact that you morons complain about ~5 minutes queue in CBT QC is just laughable and shows how spoiled you are fucking underage retards. Generation Z trash.

>>181830938
my generation never waited in queues
enjoy your doa piece of shit game retard

>>181777409
I bind jump to m2 and space in all the quakes though
Just like i bind jump to mwheelup, mwheeldown, and space in all the counterstrikes

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>>181830938
I'm 27 you double nigger. The last thing I want to do after a long day of work is sit idly for 10+ minutes waiting for ONE match that may even end up as a 2v4 - I could launch something else like Immortal Redneck, Serious Sam, D44m or any other previous Quake and frag away until my eyes bleed instead of waiting in silence alt tabbing to watch youtube as my interest in the game slowly wanes and I inevitably close it out of frustration. The queue times are abysmal, unforgivable and inexplicable. Without a server browser QC will be doa.

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>>181830938
You're right senpai, but you might want to chill just a tad bit

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>>181831076
>my generation never waited in queues

Sure thing you Overshit underage babby with zero understanding of how match making works with no playerbase.

Dota 2 is superior in every way than dead /arena/ trash with no tournaments and any relevant players, just be glad that QC is reviving a stinky Quake corpse and lick devs' boots for doing that.

>>181831374
How are you so terribly retarded for 27 then? I bet you still live with your fat whore mother.
If you have to wait for 10+ minutes to find a single match then you also live in a 3rd world shithole so it basically suits you subhuman mongoloid lifestyle. I don't see a problem here.

>>181831394
Kids need to be educated.

>>181831561
oh, you're just a dotafag
nvm, >>>/trash/ is this way

>>181831561
You're the biggest fucking idiot I've ever encountered on this shit board.

>>181831374
>>181831076
>>181830938
>>181831652
A reminder Joe Rogan payed 10k a month to play Q1 with zero ping

>>181831561
im now 99% sure you-re just trolling.

>overshit
>dota2

my little idiot friend, like i said, my generation didnt play games with matchmaking, and i still actively try to avoid that. go be a mm babby somewhere else

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>>181831652
>insecure poorfag from dead genre

I'd shit on you in all Quakes and Dota with my eyes closed, kid.

>>181831685
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

Don't reply to my posts if you can't contribute anything, you underdeveloped mongoloid.

>>181831807
>spoiled Generation Z newfag doesn't even understand how match making works
>b-but i n-never p-played it a-anyway

Way to show how painfully new you are.

>>181832198
>ad hominem is only bad when used against me
brilliant
>I'd shit on you in all Quakes and Dota with my eyes closed, kid
yeah sure bubba, let's see those hot stats of yours

@181832198
7/10

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>>181832404
Use "sir" or "your majesty" when you address to me, kiddo.

>>181832198
don't make posts if you can't contribute anything

>>181832974
interesting filename
>10 minutes to get some stats
believable and totally not someone else's, 10/10

dota is a trash game for literal autists

>>181833085
this

>>181834952
>>181833085
>2k shitters

>>181835179
what does that mean? hello? anyone?

Anyone know when the next update for QC is? Also is the new game mode in UT4 fun like Onslaught was, and does it have people playing it?

>>181836513
>Anyone know when the next update for QC is? Also is the new game mode in UT4 fun like Onslaught was, and does it have people playing it?
It was updated today or yesterday.

Huge update probably after QuakeCon.

>>181836513
You mean Blitz in UT4?
Imo, it's shit, but it seems decently popular so ymmv. Give it a go, you might like it. Too much of a spamfest for me.

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For the person who requested more smug Bitterman.

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>>181838337
Also, a transparent background version.

Finals are up

also on YT!

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqCKGFxLhdc

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>>181838337
>>181838554
Excellent
Finally someone who can actually draw, unlike me

>>181838717
Also week 2 duel qualis are live on twitch if you want to the early matches.

I don't think I really care about duel in QC though.

why is toxjq in all my dm matches

>>181838337
>>181838554
based

and blizzard released an /a/ homage known as doomfist trailer, only to divert the attention from both CS and Quake tournaments...

>>181839437
your mmr is high
you shouldnt have curbstomped noobs this hard

>play arena duel in Reflex
>opponent complains about my use of hitscan that I've learnt from duel
>apologize and drop it
>RL, Plasma and grenades the game
>constant spam from him. Hitting random ass grenades at times
>camping
>bemoan my opponents use of grenades
>tells me to git gud
>tell him it's lame becuase there's no control elements so you can literally just hold a position and spam while I have to wait unless I'm impatient
>makes game boring
>asks me to seriously arena duel me
>pause /sgdq/ stream and starts taking it serious on a new map
>his strat is to spam grenades whenever he sees me approach
>wait for him to run out of nades (15!)
>he spams rockets whenever he sees or hears me approach
>wait for him to run out of (25!!!) rockets
>30 seconds left in round
>shoot him for 100 damage of rocket damage
>wait for timer to tick him down while he flails because he doesn't have movement
>>proceed to do the same for virtually every round except some he gets railed when he peaks sometimes or catches one of my sparingly used grenades

>he mad, calls me names
>"You mat not like it, but this is what peak arena duel performance looks like."

I feel bad. But arena scrubs need to learn. I'm fine with playing with made up rules and playing these modes for fun but fuck, don't complain about me complaining about nades when you disallow me hitscan.

>>181836513
Blitz isn't like onslaught

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Is anyone else's hitboxes and projectiles feeling like absolute laggy garbage after the latest patch?

Direct hits don't even do 100 and the hitmarker shows up delayed even tho i'm at 20ish

>>181852018
20ish ping

>>181852018
yes

>>181852018
My ping is reported as 60 solidly but the game feels more like it's ~180.

I get a lot of things like rocket splash hitting me shortly after it should and I get hit by rails just after I've ducked out of view. There's some stuff that feels off about hitting people too but that's harder to pin down because it gets conflated with me being not so great and the game being too visually busy for me to tell what's happening a lot of the time. I've only had one queue actually fire since the last patch though maybe come this weekend I'll have a better idea of it.

>>181776742
>>opponent complains about my use of hitscan that I've learnt from duel
>>apologize and drop it
>>RL, Plasma and grenades the game
>>constant spam from him. Hitting random ass grenades at times
>>camping
>>bemoan my opponents use of grenades
>>tells me to git gud
>>tell him it's lame becuase there's no control elements so you can literally just hold a position and spam while I have to wait unless I'm impatient
>>makes game boring
>>asks me to seriously arena duel me
>>pause /sgdq/ stream and starts taking it serious on a new map
>>his strat is to spam grenades whenever he sees me approach
>>wait for him to run out of nades (15!)
>>he spams rockets whenever he sees or hears me approach
>>wait for him to run out of (25!!!) rockets
>>30 seconds left in round
>>shoot him for 100 damage of rocket damage
>>wait for timer to tick him down while he flails because he doesn't have movement
>>>proceed to do the same for virtually every round except some he gets railed when he peaks sometimes or catches one of my sparingly used grenades

that's hillarious because quakelive/qc tdm is so braindead compared to quakeworld that it might as well be TDM: CA edition/FFA with teams

>>181852018
been like that after the first time rockets got "fixed"
i took a direct rocket at point blank range and i think the guy who shot me took more damage than i did
what fucking sense does that make

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ded

>>181860889
matches the genre

>>181852018
god this map is so fucking bad

>>181862506
i like it but it runs like shit

>>181862506
Glad I'm not the only one who hates it.

Maybe it's a good tdm map though.

why are dota 2 players so fucking deluded they actually think their game is harder than quake

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Be honest guys, should I make a "buenos dias Nyx" edit of this?

>>181865709
yes

>>181865447

In my experience over the years, I've come to find MOBA players to be some of the most arrogant and shittalk-y people in any genre. I just find it kind of ironic given what games they're playing.

>>181866726
No your average afps player is just as bad as moba or csgo.
Competitive players in these games in general are shit.

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Apart from quake c/l what other online games do you people play?

>>181843931
Reading this back 4 hours later.
What the fuck is wrong with me.
I don't normally do this many typos and a lot of this is just me putting in words that shouldn't even be there.
I must be sick or something.
>shoot him for 100 damage of rocket damage
Wth.

>>181868726
Reflex, Warsow, Dirty bomb, ET (rarely), Stellaris, The Witness and lots of smaller games i forget pretty much.
I tend to check out all the games in the humble bundle monthly.
Haven't played darksouls yet. Might devour me.

I'm watching the quake champions tournament thing and it looks like characters have different characteristics / stats, just like in your casual mobafps like overwatch and TF2.
Is this true?

>>181868726
Quakeworld, Quake 2, CPMA, and sometimes Squad.

>>181868773
its ok, nobody read your blog post anyways

wow type nibba in champions chat and mods will permaban you lmao

>>181868726
UT4, warsow.

>>181870468
you dont play warsow babz stop lying

I don't know if it's the right thread to ask that but what are some goods Doom-like or Quake-like solo games besides :
-Unreal
-Painkiller
-Half-life
-Shadow Warrior
-Wolfenstein
-Hexen
-Serious Sam
-Bulletstorm
-Rage
-Timesplitters

>>181869193
They're more similar.

>>181819635
Play QC

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>>181866605
Progress

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>>181878078

You're doing God's work, friend.

>>181767952
QC is in really bad shape, the netcode business is embarrassing.

>>181868726
dude
subNAUTICA has content for DAYS

>>181871638
Jedi Outcast and Jedi Academy

>>181831374

>Immortal Redneck

It any good? Was thinking about buying it since I've resigned myself to NEVER EVER getting a Serious Sam 4.

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>>181878078

>>181878078
I don't know how hard it would be to edit a scalebearer charging across

>>181868512
t. dotard

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>>181880918

>>181885365
i like it

where did everyone go

>>181891541
played a game where 50% of your rockets dont disappear into thin air so the announcer can give you a "MID AIR" with no damage numbers

>>181891638
so CPMA/QL? That's part of /arena/

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>>181886303

D E D

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>>181897935
NO!

>>181894608
gud work

Quakecon will save the general

>>181907826
S-So far away...

It hurts

>>181911934
lemme ooout

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>>181894608

You've done good, son.

>>181862506
design is really cool

but it runs bad

>>181852018

>warmup on yesterday
>player not moving
>zoom in and hit him in the face with rg
>300ms delay
>I could count to 3 after the shot till the hit was registered
>@ping 25 ms
>mfw
>actually not mfw, since my face melted

still during the match it didnt felt like that all the time, sometimes the game felt responsive other times it just feels like garbage

>>181913081
kill me now

>>181907958
>August
fuck

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>>181862807

>tdm
>me and friend stand side by side near railgun spawn with gauntlets out, facing the teleporter exit
>get like 15 frags in a row before the idiots on the other team stop attempting to contest it
>friendly galena has mines up along the rim and kills anyone who tries to rocket jump up to the platform to avoid our gauntlet blockade
>mfw

gud map, 10/10

>>181852018
I suspect this is just that they made rockets appear client side. The same system is probably still in the background.

Why don't they just fix it?

>>181831757
I think it was a $10k setup fee, but the monthly fees were lower.

>>181924145
> quad, RG, and armor all in the same small room
> balcony on the room that already has height advantage
> only way to get in the room is through a teleporter or rocketjumping up the adjacent room
> alternatively take rail corridor and die
> same for getting to balcony, but with even less routes
> teleporters are permanently out of the question if there is a single galena

L E V E L

D
E
S
I
G
N

>>181925434
Why not do the Titanfall thing and remake the most popular maps?

>>181926085
I think they want to distance themselves a bit from the old games a bit. I think Lockbox is the only egregiously terrible new map though.

>>181926085
The abilities make certain characters advantaged in certain positions.

AIRWALK
FUCKING

W H E N
H
E
N

>>181900073
>blowjob doing that to doomguy ever
he'd tear his arms off and shove them down his throat to make a palm tree

>>181926782
I'm not really excited to play aerowalk in a mode that's first to 3 with gimmicks.

>>181926846
>Pitting family members against each other
>Not having them team up to fight Yog-Sothoth and the rest
Could you fucking imagine if BJ and Doomguy meet and team up and fight the elder gods in the upcoming comics?

>>181927834
>BJ and Doomguy fighting the elder gods
>Ranger realizes he's become the eternal jobber and becomes even more depressed

>>181927907
He can come too. He's cool

Can anyone explain what the fuck Slash and Visor's passives do?

>>181930614
Slash crouch slides. If you need a good example, go watch Toxic's match from EU today.

Quake 4 god and his goddess showed us how crouch sliding is done.

>>181930614
Slash gets crouch slides - when you land from a jump hit crouch and slide. You get cpm air control style turning on the ground except you have to hold forwards. It's pretty awkward until it clicks but then it's great and you can do some pretty nice jumps.

I think Visor just gets uncapped VQ3 strafes but there might be more to it idk.

>>181833085
If dota is for autists, then LoL is for downies, and HoTS is for toddlers.

>>181928229
>Sociopath warrior poet BJ who occasionally worries about his wife and twin babies
>Berserker Doomguy who basically turns into a living statue when there isn't anything to kill
>Half depressed, half nutjob Ranger trying to guide these two through these nonsense dimensions
Three and a Half Men. Fund it.

>>181930812
>>181930963
So a worse version of Annarkal?

>>181931106
She has like twice the hp.

>>181931298
And three times the ass.

>>181931298
25 more but doesn't get a self heal and has a useless ability.

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>MFW I just figured out how to do the crouch slide
>Mfw I did a strafe jump in it

>>181931076
doom 'inhale air, exhale angry' guy

>>181931076
> three and a half men
i got that joke

>>181931621
Slash is not bound by your superstitions of conservation of momentum and will do a 180 on the spot and return with twice the speed
this is what i assume happens, i never play slash

>>181931926
>Criminals break laws
>Slash is a criminal
>Breaks laws of physics
Checks out

>>181930812
can you link it? i cant find it

>>181931926
This is literally what happens.

>>181932118
Breaking the rules and regs set by Newton is five years in the cubes for each law, creep.

>Quake C works natively on ultrawide
I don't care if this game is fucked up, this is the single greatest thing since overwatch assfucked ultrawide users.

>>181933449
Since 4chin is being fucktarded with links go to twitch and
/videos/157042449
Go to like 5:17:30 and start there or close too it. toxjq picks slash on sarnath.

>>181936153
thanks friend

>>181935763
Quake C is a scripting language

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>>181879896
since its last big update which fixed gunplay feel it's the only roguelite fps on the market done right, if you're good at quack/ss/painkiller you'll do extremely well in it - disregard reviews of shitters saying 'baww I can't get past first floor, game is too hard', they're too used to humping chest-high walls and regenerating health. Game is fast, punishing and really fucking satisfying to play, I'd suggest getting it with a discount though, i'd say 75% of what it is now would be a good price
hell, it even has the q3 rl

>>181941337
I watched TBs review.
He made it seem extremely bland in gameplay. Little situation variety. Little combat variety. Annoying 'find the monster to proceed' situations.

Complaints were many.

>>181941337
do the guns still go 'pap pap pap'?
are the reload times still 3+ seconds?
did they add in any gore what so ever?

>>181941604
after a minute or so monsters get highlighted, it must've been an older build
also TB chose the most boring character with the least interesting guns, probably saw a minigun and got an erection
plus he's bad at videogames
>>181941656
nah, guns no longer sound like a playing card clipped to a bicycle wheel, they put a lot of more bang in them
you can now interrupt reloads and I don't feel like they're a gamebreaker, if all your guns constantly need reloading then you must be doing something wong

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man mobaquake is such shit
i can't believe there's even anyone playing it
it feels like an unreal engine mod gone wrong
mobaquake is not quake to say the least

https://youtu.be/-IovXx7FsQw

>>181945530
This is why UT4 will be dead on arrival. Relying on the community to do the work after only providing a barebones game divides it further and nothing will ever get done. There should be an overall developer vision to be followed and they should actively be doing all of the work and only asking occasionally the community for suggestions and shiet

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>mobaquake esports tryhards thinks their game will become popular
quake itself as a multiplayer game was never ever good. the duel tournaments were entertaining but that's about it. the reason why so many people played it was
>endless mods including team fortress, rocket arena, capture the flag, action quake, lithium, etc
>endless user created content including maps, skins, mods, player models, sounds, etc
>full control over configuration settings
>a bleeding edge game engine
>single player (quake 3 didn't have this but quake 3 wasn't as popular as quake 1,2)
>a massive sprawling competitive community that grew organically from how great a game it was
mobaquake is like a forced mod that nobody likes with none of the stuff that made quake a household name. they're going to try and the ride back of the quake name, esports and f2p mtx and it's going to fail miserably because quake that isn't actually quake is fucking dogshit

>>181946343
There's literally a lot of quake clones in the current years, had people wanted a new "quake" then they should have had players already,and not a waste of time and money even when bought on sale.

>>181946343
>tournaments were good
Duel was good too. Most team games don't hold up really.

They need to modernize it and they just added champions

>>181946343
>mobaquake

this isn't going to catch on

>>181945462
People are playing it because it's actually fun to play, you stupid cock sucker.

>mobaquake
I find it funny that adding premade playstyle variation characters makes a game all of the sudden a moba.

I've played QC since CBT1, and ive yet to see a minion, defense tower, leveling system, item builds, PVE content, or anything else that remotely resembles a moba.
All of the sudden adding "heroes" to any game makes it a MOBA.

I guess we should call Black ops3 MobaCOD then right?
It has heroes with ultimates.

Go back to sucking john carmack's dick you oldfaggot.

>>181946747
this
normiequake is more fitting

>>181946776
>tfw TF2 is a MOBA now.
Thanks rito.

>>181946747
>>181946809
How about we just call it quake with champions?
Oh wait I know, we should just call it Quake champions?
HOLY SHIT ANON, I THINK WERE ON TO SOMETHING HERE.

>>181947028
quack
champagne

What if every unique winner of id's annual(?) Quake tournament gets turned into a playable character? Have them make memey ingame lore explanations for it, like for example if Av3k wins he gets busted out of polish prison by the vadrigar or something

>>181945530
I already know what this is and it was made by some ut99 fag. And this video will eventually be outdated like countless same videos before it are.

>>181946062
Tbh it's always been this way, since ut99, because Epic is shit at making a competitive shooter.

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>>181946776
> People are playing

>>181946776
Kys

>>181946595
> There's literally a lot of quake clones in the current years, had people wanted a new "quake" then they should have had players already
None of those are anything like a new Quake. Quake was a bleeding edge game. Everything did was state of the art for its time. There hasn't been an arena shooter that fits this description since Quake 3
Quake 4 was an abomination with a 60 fps cap, made for consoles
Everything else has been subpar indiedev trash with broken movement or physics or both.
There have been no games, none even close, on the level of Quake 1-3

afps is dead solely because nobody has made a good afps in 20 years and no other reason.

>>181950949
>afps is dead solely because nobody has made a good afps in 20 years and no other reason.
No Arena FPS is dead because for the past 10 years of gaming, people have been catered to by greater casualization of games.

From WoW to LoL to CoD, Overwatch to just about any popular game these days, any relevance of skill has been compressed down to serve casualized gaming so that people cant play for hundreds of hours in multiplayer and not have to go through the process of being curb stomped like the old days, to learn.

Steam didnt save Quakelive, Steam didnt make Reflex big, but Overwatch made casual FPS massive and Paladins made it big on steam.

Look at every MMORPG, any MMOs that require skill are super small or dying off like WildStar, yet casual handholding amd wallet warrior driven games see success.

Just look at LoL vs DotaAllstars. LoL was made to bring dota to the masses and in the process they removed a lot of mechanics from the game to make it casual friendly so that people wouldn't be turned away from the game based on skill factors.

Why do you think LoL is so much bigger than dota? Same reason as to why Overwatch is more popular than any skill based FPS.

Casual catering trumps skill in marketing.

Arena FPS is dead because casualFPS to a dump on everything that made arena FPS popular in the first place.

The ONLY chance we have at seeing an Arena FPS becoming even mildly popular is through Quake C.

Hate or love it, Quake C is the only chance arena FPS fans have for an Arena FPS ever seeing numbers comparable to skill gap compressed games like CoD on PC.

>>181950949
Quake 4 is vq3 but faster and better just get q4max

>Is server browser implementation in your plans?

>MC: Yes, it’s on our big list o’ things to do.

Welp QC is going to be completely dead.

If id hasn't learned from the fact that server browsers killed the new player experience, they certainly wont ever learn.

QC will turn into another quake live with tiny niche servers filled with handfuls of oldfag players who can't move on.

And all the new players will be stuck in long queues that will never fill up because the oldfags left.

>i cant find a game because the queue is so long
>imma join a server!
>i got wrecked by the no lifer pros who
>I got kicked from the server because I'm new and can't play very well yet
>Guess im gonna play overwatch instead!

So much for that shit.

>>181955884
Kys, forced matchmaking is the worst cancer.

Name one reason why would anyone want to go into queues when they can just find a server with a free slot and join instantly. Even the newfags aren't that retarded.

If what it takes for people to play quake is to make it into an overwatch, then I'd rather it died.

Whoever thinks QC is afps's only chance at survival is a retard. If QC succeeds, that will be the final nail in the afps coffin.

Newbie here, I only play QC 20 minutes a week after work and I should be able to win just as much as the people who've been playing quake for thousands of hours.

They need to cater to me and my special needs or I will play overwatch instead. ;^)

>>181958029
This is why oldfags are too fucking stupid to realize what they're doing wrong, and why old games abandoned server browsers.

Server browsers can not and NEVER will be able to host competitive and rated play.

That is why EVERY competitive game on the market has a matchmaking system.


"BUT MUH SERVER BROWSER ANON!"

Yeah, and you end up with 200 people playing 4 or 5 different custom games and no one ever gets to play anything else and everyone else gets kicked or the game never grows because server browser keeps them out of the game.

Matchmaking brings skill ratings and allows players to actually have a chance at playing against other players. Instead of trying to join a server and getting assraped by no life faggots who want to stroke their dicks to their 40-0

>Whoever thinks QC is afps's only chance at survival is a retard. If QC succeeds
Yeah because reflex really did a good job of making aFPS popular again.

>LOL OVERWATCH CLONE MEME
You are actually, a retard.
Bravo. Next time they're giving out chromsomes, make sure you don't take 3, you downie.

>>181959038
How about:
Matchmaking mode
and
A server browser

???

>>181960130
Don't bother, he's unironically retarded.
He believes that
a) a moba model is suitable for an afps
b) that QC is an afps and the genre's only hope at that

>>181960408
well matchmaking is shit but QC is still an afps

How do I fix the stuttering in QC?
I've lowered textures as someone recommended before and it didn't help.

The game runs perfectly well aside from the stuttering and it is single-handedly killing this game for me.

>>181960130
When this has been done it's always been server browser that dies out.
Unless the game is extremely popular.

Matchmaking will always offer a better experience for the mass market user, regardless of casual or hardcore player.

It works for casual and competitive systems, and backend wise, it's much easier for a game to maintain and run, and devs are more capable of creating a streamlined experience.

Matchmaking is better in the end for modern online games because it allows a wider range of players to find matches that bring more consistent experiences.

And people want competitive rated play with recognizable tangible relatable statistics, which is something that unique servers can't do.

If you want an example of how server browsers end up problematic, just look at battlefield's games.

Every itteration has ended up with the same problem, dedicated servers that end up dead and game modes and preferences lost because players filter in and out and only dedicated players can keep up. And when players start filtering out even the dedicated hardcore players can't get servers to keep running.

Matchmaking avoids the entire problem by pooling the entire player base into a system that generates a temporary server system for them.

Server Browsers were necessary in the older era of online games because peer to peer wasn't reliable and matchmaking system backends weren't possible yet.

Now the accessability to back end that supports matchmaking and global accounts is very high and it allows developers to access a more effective means of an interacting community.

Server browsers only work when you have a very large game that can maintain it, or a niche set of players who allow a server to be maintained.

CS:Go moved to Matchmaking systems because CS:Source was dying out on server browsers and the game needed a new backend.

Battlefield can't host competitive FPS gameplay, because it lacks any matchmaking system that allows players to compete with each other.

>>181962087
....Continued


At this point Server Browsers are a Legacy technology that allows extra content to be created by players when a game is large enough to support it.

Server Browsers can't maintain large unified user bases or all inclusive global level accounts because they weren't designed to do so.

Games like LoL and Dota and CSGO would never have gotten big or became major Esports on their server browsers.

Server browsers create niche communities that can't contribute to growing a game into a large format player base.

Server Browsers are a legacy technology now, because something more effective at reaching community and competitive play goals has replaced it.

If I have 60hz monitor, should I limit my fps to 60 for better performance? Would I even see any difference between 60 fps and 125?

>>181963269
No don't limit your frame rate,
Yes you can still tell the difference between 60 and 125 even though you're using a 60hz display.

The more frames you can push the lower your frame latency and the lower your input lag.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjWSRTYV8e0

I have a 144hz monitor and I run uncapped and push as high a frame rate as possible.

>>181962381
>Dota and CSGO would never have gotten big or became major Esports on their server browsers
are you high

>>181964945
He's probably too young to remember how popular CS and WC3 DotA were.

>>181965660
I'm not him but I agree 100% a modern crowd wouldn't accept anything but fire and forget matchmaking.
Especially for comp games.

i just want slash to sit on my face

>>181966317
you and me both brotha

>>181966164
Are we talking about kids born after 2000? Cause twenty somethings right now more than likely played or remember DotA and server browsers.

>>181969296
pretty much anyone that had played a PC game before 2010 knows server browsers

downloading quake champions

>>181975883
It's okay I guess

>>181976826
Details?

>>181978087
Sure the netcode is spotty and the "Champions" bit is a point of contention, but the devs are largely aware of the major problems and seem willing to work on the game and supply it with content for a few years. Plus its coming to steam so that's good

>>181978815

the unexpected surprise and to me the greatest possible benefit to the whole "champions" aspect is to be able to have different physics movement in the same game via champions

i mean we have cpma, q4, and UT in addition to vq3 of everyone else. hard not to get excited about that

>>181979306
The problem is they're all watered down and missing mechanics

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>>181979538

>missing mechanics

don't worry, i'm sure we'll get a champion that has instant weapon switching as a passive

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>>181979880
I know just the guy

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>>181979880

>instant weapon switching as a passive

pls no

>>181979880
More than that. There's no stair jumping, ramp jumping, slope jumping, and speed caps. Race in QC would be boring.

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>>181980495

>he prefers slower-than-smoke-off-dogshit vq3

>>181980284
Explain

>>181981069
i'd rather not get railed and then insta-shotgunned tbqh senpai

bj is shit and needs a buff

>>181984142
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbS0eJWxZTs

>>181984548
also reduce anarki's hitbox size and increase sorlag's damage over time

>>181984675
>increase dot
neck yourself

>>181985004
it was sarcasm you mong
bj is op

just kill me now

HUH

Nyx is my wife, and you're all faggots.
Bump

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Any of you quakedads playing in the cup tomorrow?

>>181987641
No one important enough to be playing in the championships is low enough to post here, anon.

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>1 million dollar prize pool

>>181989158
>it hasnt started yet
>Main audience is on twitch
>Barely anyone watches prequals for any other game.
Anon, that's a pretty fine strawman you got there.

>>181989474
>>181989158
ya, one thing I don't like is when people try to manufacture drama

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Bitterman when?

Will carnage lose to anarki's hitbox again?

probably

>>181991980
We're all bitter, man

>>181989158
when the mods are literal faggots who have never had an ounce of power in their entire life, streams can get stale

>>181819635
>>181873228
Don't listen to this fag. Quake Live is a good place to start because of its tutorial levels on blast and strafe jumping

>>181931771
I didn't, is Doomgiy like one and a half men or does someone have replaced limbs?

>>181946903
>tf2 classes have abilities
I think you're slightly wrong

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>>181999216
Required reading:
https://www.doomworld.com/10years/doomcomic/comic.php

>>181954342
As depressing as that is; you're right.

Fucking Half Life, why'd you have to start the linear shooter?

>>181999674
It's technically class based weapon load outs and systems.

But the point I was making is that due to that anon's bullshit idea of what a MOBA is, TF2 becomes a moba under that shit definition.

>>181999953
At least Half Life held on to a lot of the mechanics. I'd argue Halo is where things really started going wrong

>>181999953
Half-Life didn't start shit the key hunting style of game was already getting stale by the late '90s

Hunter fucking when?

>>182000712
Well both are at fault: half life for making the brown linear shooter and Halo started the health regen bullshit.

Both are still fun at lan parties though

>>182003409
>Halo started the health regen bullshit.
Don't forget the two weapon limit, or the slow floaty movement. And the worst part of it all is that it got popular, so nearly every single fps for the next thirteen years tried to be the Halo killer. W40K Fire Warrior, Area 51, Haze, Killzone, Resistance, etc

>>182003972
And now we have Call of Daycare, Covershooter VII, and Quake Dead

I fucking hate everyone, and I'm not even fucking 30 yet. What the hell is happening to me? What made me this jaded?

>>182003409
have you even played half-life
it's more colorful than quake ever was

>>182003409
Quake was the original brown fps though

Holy fuck i am watching the quakechampions twitch and it's boring as fuck, and the casters are the most boring shit i have ever seen, even the league of legends ones are better, at least they know how to talk about the game. Not even going to download this game anymore, quake was never good anyways.

>>182006209
>>182006301
Brown *linear* shooter
Brown shooters have been around since the dawn if the fps; HL was the first one to put you on a set trail with """minimal""" exploration. CoD just set it in stone

>>182006918
Half Life was never brown though

>>182007308
It sure as hell wasn't pyroland either. "Brown shooter", in my experience, is a misnomer and refees to a muted pallette. HL uses a muted pallette, even with the oranges and greens

>>182007801
still more colorful than any quake

The only colorful fps is Lovely Planet

these casters need to be lit on fire

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKWrbpehhhc

ded

>>182008986
tfw you will never lick crash's abs

>>182003409
>Halo started the health regen bullshit.
No halo is responsible for the console faggotry of modern FPS games.
The health regen thing isnt that bad of a mechanic, the problem is that it became a cheap mechanic for shitheaded lazy devs to rely on to give players a crutch, because they all wanted that sweet sweet console fag money.

And you can't make hardcore high skill FPS for controllers.

90% of FPS game's problems come from casual console fag demanding easy games and handholding mechanics because controllers are fuckin retarded for an aiming device.

I mean look at overwatch. PC vs Console. PC version has a heavily compressed skill gap because it has to maintain the same experience between console and PC.

And because of that, the game has such a low entry level skill requirement and the skill cealing is lower than knee caps.

Anyone ever play HL2DM? I heard there was a shitty Aerowalk remake for it.

>>181969296
It's not about them knowing about them obviously. It's about preference.

This is a nice general

YUORE A NICE GENERAL!!

HUH

Is Overwatch /arena/?
Is Team Fortress 2 /arena/?
Is Lawbreakers /arena/?
Is Tribes: Ascend /arena/?
Is Planetside 2 /arena/?

>>182022086
Absolutely not
Not really
Kinda
Fast but no
No

Is Titanfall 2 /arena/?

>>182022086
>>182022392
is anon a fag?

>>182022675
> t. faggot
>>>/lgbt
>>>/pol/
>>>/r9k/
>>>/b/

>>182022767
is anon dumb?

>>181774105
too much spam
GL, small halls, and teams are too large
If it was a 4v4 in QC, it would be a perfectly acceptable mode.

>>182022086
Of course not.
No.
Close enough.
No.
No.

>>182022286
Please dont respond to obvious bait anon.
They're just posting that for the (you).

Alright boys, post your best case/worst case scenarios for the inevitable QuakeCon update
>Characters
>Maps
>Other
Stuff like that

>>182024419
best case scenario
>hunter
worst case scenario
>hunter, but modernized and turned into crap

>>182024419
Brightest timeline
>A couple of the characters from the leaks added
>One or two new maps
>Proper fucking grenade launcher
>Hunter teased

>>182024419
best case scenario
anarki nerf
netcode buff
worst case scenario
they go through with forcing top32 to be off lan

>>182024706
Maybe they fix the netcode in July?

>>182024632
the grenade launcher was fucking cancer and it shouldnt come back

im not saying tribolt doesnt need a buff but GL can stay fucked

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>>182024461
Considering both Nyx and Slash are rocking belt Thongs,and nyx's breasts are clearly being attended too, I don't think Hunter is going to be spoiled.
Unless they force her into heels. Fuck that shit, she has skullcrusher boots on in her old models.

Best case scenario we get slash with Hoverwings that lets her air-glide quickly around and attack from the air.

>>182024419
>worst case scenarios
Lucy with a chainpull/distance grab.
We dont need another game with a generic fatass pudge. Muchless a fatass woman ruining the aesthetics of the game.

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>>182024419
best case scenario
>doom/sarge/bitterman/hunter/orbb/razor announced
>aerowalk/sinister/furious heights/cure announced
>anarki's hitbox and lean animation nerfed
>nyx can only ghostwalk above 25 hp
>lg damage reduced to 6 or 5
>sorlag dot damage, time and direct blob damage reduced by 50%
>some buffs to visor but I'm too stupid to think of something because he's well balanced
>zoom damage removed enirely
>zooming no longer slows you down
>rocket delay fixed completely
>nailgun now spits hot lava
>full SSG blast does 150 samage
>map geometry smoothed out
>armor shards added
>5 hp pickups added
>health pickups now cancel sorlag's dot
>ranger is now immune to self damage
>option to make enemies glow a single color added
>netcode made not shit
>lockbox stutter removed
>server browser added
>proper matchmaking added
>ruskis get their own region
worst case scenario
>dragonborn announced
>steam integration revoked
>grenade launcher added
>zoom damage added to all weapons, even the gauntlet
>gauntlet now kills instantly from behind
>headshots do 200% damage
>railgun gets random spread
>character can now sprint and go prone
>every character gets some dumbass silly vanity items
>limbs can be crippled in fallout fashion
there could be a lot more worse things but I can't be arsed to think right now

>>182025986
nyx change is shit
lg change is shit
sorlag change is shit, except the dot cancel
visor doesnt need buff
ng doesnt need buff except perhaps larger hitbox
we dont need 5hp pickups
ranger buff is shit
brightskin wont work with how they're pushing the game

>>182026198
t. adad lg nyxbab running away from a fight he cant win

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>>182024461
>hunter [...] turned into crap
Sounds good to me.

>>182026368
more like you're too lazy to pick a proper engagement and learn how to control ability cooldowns
removing ghostwalk from sub25 will make her unplayable. she wouldnt be able to escape from anything, you'd be better off just dropping her to 30hp instead, bc at least then should could survive rail when stacked
but instead you're going to nerf lg for literally no reason
and make nyx unplayable bc ur too shit to manage cooldowns
the only LG problem there is with Blaz

>>182026879
>nyxbab trying to defend his get ouf of jail free card
>too lazy to pick a proper engagement
>he says while being able to escape any engagement
kys yourself

>>182027049
>Kill yourself yourself

>>182027049
shouldnt you be in summer school about now

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>>182003373
>>182024461
>>182024632
>>182025984
>>182025986

>>182027261
hownew.ru
>>182027272
>haha le summer is here guise xd
fun fact: people using this ''''''argument'''''' are always underage themselves

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>>182027338
Impressive.

>>182027261
>the joke
lots of empty space
>your head

>>182027364
> using 'le', 'xd', 'haha' and/or excessive quotation marks
get your coat and walk out the door

>>182027338
Can you post sources for those images you used anon?
I need them.

>>182027478
why would he have a coat in the summer

how about
what if
> anarki
> active change
> speed boost + regen +5 max health
> max health boost wiped on death

>>182027541
He might be from a cold land or the southern hemisphere.

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>>182027529
I can do you one better

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>>182027478
>h-aha I was just joking
backpedal more fag
>>182027541
he's making an epic fedoraman joke!!!!!!!
>>182027570
direct upgrade in duel

>>182027541
because it's late and windy
also north

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>>182027623

>>182027701
I want her to splatter my head between her thighs like a tomato.

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>>182027701

>>182027628
>backpedal more fag
i don't understand

>>182027628
>he's making an epic fedoraman joke!!!!!!!
this is terrible

agh

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>>182027802
And the rear facing model is from her bio. I'm certain you can find that on your own