/civ4xg/ - Stellaris, Endless, Civilization and 4X Games General

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>>181708887
Spectator from last thread's argument here, you autistic?

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>>181709089
>still mad
I see /gsg/ is still leaking. I blame Shitllaris for all the shitposters we have here.

>>181709130
Thanks for proving my point about Stellarisfags being all shitposters, and all too retarded to click on a "subscribe" button.

>>181709175
>inb4 "I'm not mad, you are"

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HAK HAK HAK

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What with that OP picture?

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>>181709690
kitters are cute!

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>>181709891
Not as cute as spiders.

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>>181710085
respectfully disagree

>>181710184
Kumo and Niko needs to meet.

>It has now been 2 months since the last update on new Civ 6 leaders.

As one of the 2-3 people that like this game i hope for some new info soon. I want new leaders to play.

>>181709259
You're a crazy person

What happened with that anon who was making a mod to mechanise planets, did he ever finish and release it?

I was going to post this on /tg/ but thought i'd try here first since people here are more likely to be familiar with the setting.

If I were to run a D&D campaign set in Endless Legend, how would you go about it? What racial traits would different races have? What would your main plot thread be?

I thought I could try having the Drakken employ the party as political ambassadors to unite the major races in an attempt to prevent the endless winter/ stop a cultist crusade/ do battle with a Necrophage horde or something. Have the party travel to different capital cities and have a subplot in each one.

Fishing primarily for ideas for quests and major plot hooks, and if anyone can provide any insight on creating/running homebrew that'd be amazing.

>>181714557
What I like with D&D is that in a campaign, you don't have to be a hero. You can just try to escape, or be someone important's right hand.

So I would probably go for a hunt after a necrophage mutant while trying to gather forces to push back a wind walker assault.

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Please do not bully the Riftborn.

>>181714557
First of all run it in 3.5e
Second of all I'm playing a Wizard

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>>181701325
>Was this fixed with the patches/expansions?
It's not really something that could be fixed in SP 4x. If you can gain an early military upper hand on your neighbours and stompt them into dust you will have an advantage in any 4x. That being said touching Impossible/Endless AI early on is nigh on impossible, pun not intended, challenge.
>dominant strategy
It's not, but it has a place, always.

>>181701453
If you aren't aversed to older games SMAC might be up your alley. Also Last Federation is a neat little indie game that fits many of your criteria.

>>181709032
No and Yes.

>>181714557
>D&D campaign
Not the best choice for it. GURPS if you are into it, pathfinder or something equally modular would do better.

D&D is simply too set in it's ways for adapting it to other systems, you will always have it's ears sticking out of various holes. I'm also pretty sure /tg/ tried to create a custom system for EL, might worth trying to dig it out.

>>181714557
>What racial traits would different races have?
Game covers that extensively, but you will have to go trough the list yourself and figure what you want in your game and what you don't.

>What would your main plot thread be?
There are 2 ways to do it - hunting the Dust Crystal, and not hunting the DC. If it's the latter than it depends on your centrepeice faction, if it's the former, its pretty much universal.

>I thought I could try having the Drakken employ the party as political ambassadors to unite the major races
Could work if you have the right players for it, be mindful that some factions have deep seated rivalries bordering on hatred for each other, Clans/Ardent and Fogotten/Vaulters come to mind, and would be difficult to convince both to come on board.

>>181716358
>pathfinder or something equally modular
Pathfinder is just D&D3.5e, patched edition. 5e is just hot rubbish nobody writes splats for.

>>181716516
>Pathfinder is just D&D3.5e, patched edition
Well,yes, but that's the point. Especially given the thousand and one extra rule sets available for it.

>>181716590
If he's running D&D I do hope he means 3.5e, not 5e. Wizard || Rainbow Savant casts Simulacrum!

>>181716759
Stat Horatio.

>>181716894
>Charisma : 11

>>181716985
11 Charisma is pretty bad you know

>>181717047
Horatio isn't very charismatic
he's too narcissistic for any non-Horatio to like

>>181716894
Str 7
Dex 22
Con 8
Int 40
Wis 10
Cha 42

Horatio Sauce (Ex.) - It's the very hottest. Anyone dunked in Horatio Sauce must make a DC 42 Fortitude save or be burned to death by its lethal hotness. Targets who save must make a DC 42 Will save or be Dominated, as if the victim of a CL20 Dominate Person, except victims also obey self-destructive commands.

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>>181717230
>DC 42
m8...

>>181717230
Sorry, I though we were using Fallout's stat system, with 10 being the best and 5 being the average.

>>181717346
Ew no gross
Use 3.5e's or use GURPS

>>181716894
Fellowship 99
Charm +30, Command +30, Deceive +30, Inquiry +30, Interrogation +30, Intimidate +30

>>181715507
>not warlock with a virtual patron
Go big or go home

>>181717761
Warlock is shit though, and straight up doesn't exist in PF anyway. Exploiter Wizard / Arcanist is the godclass without any 3pp in PF, while Spellsage is basically Archivist, nerfed just a tiny bit. In 3.5e if I 'went big' I'd obviously go for Conjurer | Rainbow Servant or Dread Necromancer | Rainbow Servant. Initiate of the Sevenfold Veil is overrated though.

>tfw you accidentally get the diplomatic victory in EL
Guess that's what happens when you forget to turn it off.

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What are some good city shapes for BDSM fairies? Want to do an endless run but Always seem to end up with standard cities which screams suboptimal to me.

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>>181721282
Maybe make a sort of triangle?

>>181724739
That's pretty much the standard I'm talking about and it's shit. I'm thinking of either a star of some description with an empty center or double/triple 6 hex triangles

>>181724870
thats basically it but then you're potentially ignoring good tiles to have the "Perfect" city layout. It's not really that important desu

>>181721282
Hollow circles like a bee hive; start with an X with your city center and first four borough streets and make cells from there
Basically, you want your city to be as efficient with pillars as possible
>>181651062
Some of the cultists (The things that fanatics ride and the armless servitors/solid blocks the preachers use) are pure automatons, while others are a collection of converts from the many peoples of Auriga
Whenever the Queen "chooses" read: messes with the head of a member from either group, they get dragged to the center of the city and tortured/mind fucked for weeks while their body shifts, transforming into the Cultists' elite (giraffe-necks, the Chosen heroes, and the Nameless Guard)

>>181708729
Is Stellaris worth it? I've been told it basically space EU4.

>>181725684
No, because EU4 is actually good.

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>>181721282
>>181725579
caterpillar is also effective

>>181725857
Really? What is so bad about it

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>>181725078
Yeah, I'm not a perfectionist when it comes to city shapes, Pic related is my most memorable city and it had basically no Lvl2 until turn 100, but there has to be some guidlines to follow and default shapes aren't it.

>>181725579
You mean something along the lines of ƆC ? That might work, thanks.

>>181726030
Don't think it's the best idea, but it's certainly workable, thanks.

>>181726401
It's a shallow title, it's only worth if you want to daydream about being a galactic emperor of your personalised empire, the game itself offers very little substance, but a lot of generic fluff to go along with your daydreaming.

This is not intended to insult it's players, just trying to explain what people actually mean when they say roleplaying is the only good aspect of stellaris.

Tho I'm told it has some decent mods because of how easy it is to mod for.

>>181726401
Simply put :
>replayability is low
>governement has little effect
>AI is botched and designed to be a challenge to you, so alliances are limited
>planet management system is £#@¤µ shit
>there are no easy way to manage fleets, you build them one ship after another
>your input on battle is too limited and unlike EU4, you have no terrain

>>181726030
Why the fuck do you repost this meme? The point of patterns in EL is to have the least unupgraded districts. Out of all, only moons and super triangle meet the requirements.

>>181726401
poor replayability, flawed game design, a general lack of depth, and very stingy business policy
>>181726709
caterpillar is honestly the ardent mages' best bet though - it provides a large amount of level 2 districts, covers a large surface area without requiring a super wide region, and provides excellent places for pillars (if you put it in the center of the spaces between the caterpillar's "legs", the bonus will be applied to its maximum thanks to the exploitation of the land around it)

>>181726828
Broken rode is actually very efficent, it covers almost optimal territory and has only 4 lvl one districts. Big Triangle is the optimal one, period. Just math. The others are for snaking around difficult areas and special cases, not for optimal output.

>>181726973
>caterpillar is honestly the ardent mages' best bet though
Yeah, late game - sure, but I play with irregular shapes and it very hard to fit that monstrosity in. And early game its suboptimal since you spend almost 50% more districts and still miss a square in the lvl 1 pillar square. Contrast it with a simple C shape that spends 4 districts and covers all 7 hexes of interest.

>>181726709
My favorite city was when playing Broken Lords I filled up the entire region with districts, had a pop of almost 100.
Good times.

>>181727385
Yeah BL "We can do it better than Cult" megacities are amusing, but by the time you can construct them you've already won. The reason I remember that particular city is that it was a very good way of making the best of a difficult situation where I spawned on top of 3 anomalies but almost no industry in range of the settler or the anomalies.

>>181708729
So what are the 4 ways to cheer up a depressed cat?

>>181727608
treats
scratches
pettings
a kitty/puppy to play with

>>181728672
Just get it yourself, lazy faggot.

>>181728968
I already did, but on the workshop. Use it instead of being a "hur gh the workshop is for losers only" scrub.

>>181729838
That's not the issue, anon, he's a piratefag who doesn't want to admit it.

His excuse yesterday was "the workshop is blocked in some countries."

>>181730151
Respectfully disagree :^)

>>181730539
Why in the ever-loving fuck would we do that?

>>181730581
Because it's simple courtesy and the benchmark of a good community.

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Wew.

>>181730758
I think you've forgotten where we are.

And no, we're not going to feed some idiot who trolls like a retard to get his own way and doesn't even own up to the fact he's a pirate, and instead invents ever more fanciful reasons as to why he can't download the mod.

Rule number one of 4chan is practically "don't spoonfeed idiots"

>>181730808
species of peace

>>181730914
It's the jerks who are the retards and killing the community.

I agree.
Selfish jerks should fuck off.

>>181730101
He's pathetic.

Are we being raided

>>181731760
Nah, just the same faggot who's spend last few days begging and dodging bans.

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>>181731760
>one samefagging retard
>raid

>>181731760
>one brazillian faggot
>raid
Na.

So I terraformed this lava planet in ES2, since going by the math, desert would have been better - same hot and sterile bonuses for industry + more population. But guess what, turns out terraforming gives you non-sterile deserts. I have no words to describe how gay it is, especially considering the game showed it was going to be sterile in the tooltip. Gay.

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>>181732196
Horatio is an acceptable synonym for gay.

>>181731927
>>181731958
>>181732159
desu Yung was just one guy too

>>181731760
at least the thread is alive

>>181732445
That's not necessarily a good thing

>>181732196
>But guess what, turns out terraforming gives you non-sterile deserts.
Pretty sure that's untrue. I think there is some mechanic or bug that makes some desert/tundra planets non sterile but I remember terraforming into sterile deserts for sure. Deserts are a stepping stone anyway, what you want is jungle, always. Fertile is too good to pass up no matter who you are, except MAYBE Riftborn.

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>>181732445
>at least you're dying of leprosy and not already dead
I see that you too have embraced the agony, fellow sufferer. May the agony make us all stronger!

>>181732613
Riftborn get unique reverse-terraforming anyway.

Are the Forgotten fun? What about Morgawr?

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>faction quest is at the ass end of the universe
>behind 3 hostile empires
>can't make fast ships because they wouldn't survive the journey
>can't send out pimped out warships because they'll just be attritioned to death during the 30+ turns deathmarch
>turn 108, haven't done phase 2 of my faction quest
Fuck this shit, I'm going for wonder victory.

>>181732879
Forgotten were a pain in the ass to play when I tried them. Morgawr are fun, though. Nobody can really contest the ocean besides you, and you get so ridiculously powerful from naval fortresses that you barely even need to exploit land. Mind controlling minor factions to cause havoc in other empires is also great.

>>181732879
Depends on what suits you r fancy.
Forgotten are high on micro but can be extremely satisfying. For all their unique stuff morgawr are mostly vanilla, but are pretty enjoyable especially if you never bothered with sea game in your other playtroughs.

Why is ES 2 such a buggy piece of shit? I like the game but I keep getting a problem when I use any save game other than autosaves, it just hangs on the load screen forever.
It's been out for weeks, shouldn't basic ass shit like this be patched by now? Lazy frog cunts.

what do you bois listen to when playing stellaris?

>>181733770
Hi Wiz.

>>181733841
http://keygenjukebox.net/

>>181733841
The sound of my dad beating my sister

>>181733841
Unironically the ES2 soundtrack at the moment.

>>181734062
Well, that got dark fast.

>>181733919
Hi Amplitude

>>181733376
>especially if you never bothered with sea game in your other playtroughs
Haven't played with Tempest at all yet, actually. Still, will probably go with the Forgotten or Broken Lords because spoopy dust ghosts are too good.

>>181734062
Sounds hot.

>>181732879
forgotten:
can win ezmodo science victories or econ victories if played properly. Spies are pretty fun

Morgawr:
their heroes get stupid bonuses to naval warfare (can become like 1k hp 200 damage beasts) which lets you control the seas like no other and get tons of bonuses. Super fun even on not sea focused maps (pangea with 1 large sea)

>>181733770
https://steamcommunity.com/app/392110/discussions/0/2592234299562579261/
never mind found it, it's a known bug and supposedly getting fixed soon =)

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Kazanji or Silics?
Or replace Bos and get both?

>>181734717
>forgotten
>ezmodo science
What

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>>181735236
>Silics
No brainer. Mandatory just for their bonus in all circumstances.

>>181735236
Aren't silics the ones that increase strategic resource income? If so, get them.

>>181735236
Anon, it all depends on who you are and what you are doing.

The Bos part anyway. Silics are too op to ignore.

>>181735306
>-16 initiative
>+36 initiative
For what purpose?

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>>181735241
It actually works on higher difficulties even better than on lower ones.
>AIs get research bonuses
>but you can steal multiple techs than AI can research multiple techs
>so you progress faster than a cheating AI
>>181735479
Good point.

>>181735170
That's some real garbage coding. Loading savegames is a basic requirement for a game that takes several hours to finish.

>>181735609
>Good point.
It really isn't Stun unit with 0 initiative is near worthless. The reason that hammer is statted that way is because Hyperium items always have +initiative and stun weapons always have -initiative.

>>181735241
they buy techs with dust. on the harder difficulties you can exploit trade routes and roving clans heroes for mad dosh which leads to mad science

>>181735784
Good point in the sense that it's well spotted that +/- same stat makes little sense.

>>181735306
How do you get tier three glasssteeel

>>181736375
quest

>>181736375
it's a common quest reward for era 3+ quests. Researching endless machinery is especially helpful in that regard.

>>181736748
So is there tier three A+P and tier 2 M+H?

does adding cities increase the science cost of new research in Endless Legend?

>>181737321
No. Only researching tech increases research costs.

Adding cities increases Empire Plan costs and Luxury Boost costs.

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LOADSA PEARLS

>>181737186
I'm not sure about either. I am tempted to say yes, but I haven't seen either in ages so I could be imagining things.

>>181737186
There's also tier 3 M+H

>>181737734
Jesus, one fully fitted army could destroy empires

>>181738589
If you even get the quest.

>>181738658
I think last time I saw that reward was as a pat on the back for 4/5 quest victory.

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Time to bash the Ming.
Rollin'

>Northern Rebels
>Southern Rebels
>Tribal Rebels
>Eastern Mongols
>Western Mongols
>Wokou Pirates
>Jurchen
>Qing
>Japanese
>Tibetans

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>>181739147
>Jurchen
It's steppe time motherfuckers.

>>181739147
>sengoku jidai
>china
What the fuck is this game

>>181740446
Presumably it's a special campaign / scenario?

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>>181740446
Expansion.

>>181732445
I prefer quality over quantity

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>america breaks truce to ruin my conquest of korea
>I get to spite america AND be caught up in tech where it counts
feels good man

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Why is this greyed out?

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>>181708729
i think the stellaris people should make another set of alien portraits called "aquatics" or something. it would have fish people and dolphin people and shark people. i think lots of people would buy it. i would.

How do I Horatio? Besides the potent sauce obviously.

>>181742884
Because BL heroes only use swords and spears?

>>181743181
Ah okay, I didn't know that.

>>181743068
Prioritize assimilating minor factions with food production. If you think you can get away with a war against a faction like Riftborn or Vodyani, do it. Their assimilation bonuses are huge.
Horatio ship layouts are kind of shitty, so build more ships than you think you need.

>>181738589
>>181738802
Found it!

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>>181744803
Maybe actually attaching a picture would make more sense.

>>181738802
>>181744803
>>181744970
It's random still.

>>181740772
I recognize those pikes!

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>>181744970
>T3 M+H
>in exchange for 2 boarding vessels
Bargain.

>>181738802
>>181738658
>>181738589
Research Endless Mechanisms in the late or mid game and after exploring as much as you can and researching the previous strat techs, usually Lust for Loot will give you the tech.

At that point though they are only useful for the books.

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>>181745440
>>181745249
>>181745656

Interesting, but not amazing.

>>181745712
Yeah, T3 H&M weapons kinda suck. At this point attack and defence matters more than raw health and damage.

>>181745712
There's no way that isnt overkill
I dont even know if the AI uses strat equipment properly.

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https://www.gog.com/news/interview_homeworlds_rob_cunningham
>Interview: Homeworld's Rob Cunningham on defining Homeworld and inspirations

Neat.

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>>181747185
>The art of the Star Wars movies and Masamune Shirow’s comics were big influences as well.

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https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2017/06/29/civ-6-euiv-and-endless-legend-designers-on-how-their-strategy-games-create-the-illusion-of-a-world/

Also interesting reading.

>>181747869
What in the fuck
Isnt that the guy from Ghost in The Shell and Appleseed?

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>>181748223
Yes.
Quite a lot of artists started from hentai. Masamune stands out because the adaption of his work is pleb-friendly.

How should I be terraforming in ES2, with how every planet seems to have its own advantages whats the point?

is Civ 6 good yet?

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>>181748980
No.

Ask again in 2020.

>>181748737
Fertile planets are by far better lategame once all is said and done, in short, unless you are riftborn, always terraform. The question is whether you want to terraform into temperate or into hot/cold, but that's a complicated and context dependant conversation

>>181748980
no civ game has ever been good
they have all been broken
because firaxis doesnt care

>>181748575
>dat 3d rendered shit
no shirow no

>>181749052
They don't stack anymore FYI.

Although there's still enough dumb shit in the game.

>>181748575
Is that why half of them are godly at drawing female bodies but cant draw males for shit?

>>181749890
That and the fact that most of them are straight man and care more about female details.

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>>181749890
>hentai artists
>good at drawing human anatomy of either gender
Ha.

>>181749095
You can't terraform into fertile hot/cold, can you? Ocean and atoll are both temperate.

>>181750053
What the hell is the source?

Please don't tell me it's a hentai.

>>181751007
>Please don't tell me it's a hentai.
>Don't
What are you a fucking faggot?

>>181751508
I'm not on a computer that can let me read hentai, for various reasons.

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>Can anyone help me with the stellaris (core) sector system?
In the endgame I always see fractions with about 100 planets but I just have about 14 even with all pre-set skills and research.
Now is there a way for me to get more sectors?

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You can't make this stuff up.

>>181752065
Wish Total War would do that shit.

>>181748737
>How should I be terraforming in ES2, with how every planet seems to have its own advantages whats the point?
More population slots, especially useful for Influence (since planets have no inherent bonuses to Influence), collection bonuses and other per pop improvements.
Friendly planets are good for Approval if you're hitting over-expansion maluses.

>>181752065
>yfw they charge for the improved AI mods

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Was thinking of a way to build an AM city for pillar minmaxing. Want feedback.

>>181750493
No one's forcing you to click them. Jungle/Boreal are Fertile.

>>181752065
That's one way deal with AI coding unprofitability issue. Good on them.

>>181752065
The dates on this are interesting. Does this mean no significant patches until September?

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>>181754526
>Does this mean no significant patches until September?
Fuck if that's true. I'm holding off from playing the game more since I just want them to patch the most glaring problems they themselves have already confirmed wanting to fix.
>admiral vs. governor EXP
>trade routes
>all non-militaristic victories achieved too early in general so you never have time or reason to use endgame tier shit
>actual rewards for the Academy quest instead of the current placeholders we have
>AI grossly overvaluing strategic resources in trade and truce deals (probably going to come up with the AI modding beta)
How much longer?

Does manpower recover faster if you have large amounts of surplus food?

>>181755920
Yes, 10% default, iirc. You can improve ratio via Law or Buildings with food to manpoer modifiers Such as Patriot Pill and Larger Hosts Act

>>181756065
Thanks

>horatio has announced he is going to betray me soon for the last 50 turns
Either do it don't

>>181756507
Just download it yourself.

>>181756691
Are you clinically retarded or were born with a brain of retardation?

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>>181756369
What if the betrayal already happened

>>181756895
Well, if you're going to be rude like that, don't expect anyone to help.

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>>181756895
>posts link to page where he can easily download the mod from
>asks for link to download the mod from
>calls other people retarded

>>181758194
I think he has brain damage.

I mean, how dumb do you have to be, to be unable to notice the big "SUSCRIBE" button?

>>181758194
STOP REPLYING TO HIM

jesus fucking christ

>still falling for the evil names mod bait

>>181758308
>blasphemy
Fuck off.

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>>181758409
>blasphemy

>>181752948
>>181749095
Thanks mates, I hadn't noticed the population slot changes

FFS you just got a new game and you theoretically handle 3 different genres how is this place so dead

>>181759890
We're all too busy enjoying the games.

>>181759890
We're all playing the games and appreciating the maffia fish's air balloons.

>>181756914
He's currently being entwined by my friends the peace trees so I don't think think I'm the one being betrayed

>>181759890
Everything has been talked to death, most locals are oldfags who don't have much to talk about since each thinks they know everything there is to know. Just notice how many repeating answers there are every time some basic question pops up.

We had perfectly fine discussions going on for a month after ES2 came out, but now it's been more or less figured out so, what's there to talk about.

>>181758194
prove it

>>181760762
>what's there to talk about
Horatio Sauce

>>181760762
Thats the issue with 4x games, once you figure it out theres not a lot to post about and no one really cares about people blogposting/storytiming playthroughs

>>181755502
dont forget that some people (like me) can't even load up their saved games without getting LOCKED ON THE LOAD SCREEN

>>181761082
Have you tried verifying game cache

>>181761074
>no one really cares about people blogposting/storytiming playthroughs
No one really answers, but I think many enjoy reading.

>>181759890
The fuckers here don't even help out others and share mods. No wonder nobody wants to be associated with a bunch of insufferable jerks.

>>181760965
NO FUCK YOU

>>181761294
The other day, I wanted to try Age of Empires 2 HD, so I went as chinese against an AI mayan (or Incan).

They made a lot of warriors and overwhelmed me because I got late. If I made even a wooden barricade, I would've won.

>>181761329
Ask reddit.

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>>181761576

>>181752065
Huh, so they're still doing something about the AI. Letting modders fix it could have been useful if there was a mod scene but how can such a scene develop if the fucking devs penalise mod users?!

https://www.games2gether.com/endless-space-2/ideas/748-aesthetic-mods-should-not-disable-achievements

>>181754526
>Does this mean no significant patches until September?
Why would it? AI is just one aspect of the game, there's plenty of stuff that they can fix without ever touching AI code.

>>181764286
This is worse than that.
https://www.games2gether.com/endless-space-2/ideas/260-ark-as-a-selectable-hull-type

>>181765118
I wondered if I was missing something obvious or whether I really had to keep changing the one single design for each custom Ark. Goddamned design vision.

While we're at it, upvote
https://www.games2gether.com/endless-space-2/ideas/805-a-blueprint-for-new-colonies-so-you-don-t-have-to-micromanage-all-the-building-and-terraforming

https://www.games2gether.com/endless-space-2/ideas/864-in-game-artbook-album-similar-to-dungeon-of-the-endless

https://www.games2gether.com/endless-space-2/ideas/855-different-battle-backgrounds-for-every-planet-type

https://www.games2gether.com/endless-space-2/ideas/794-hide-improvements-you-don-t-want-to-build

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>>181764286
>not even an explanation

>>181765560
Yeah, it's kinda obvious the dev just copy-pasted a template answer. G2G is a scam democracy.

>>181761186
yeah, didnt do shit, everything but autosaves seems to be corrupted. gonna try a new manual save and see if it corrupts again later. might be patch related? oh wait...

>>181765720
You could try manually clearing out your saves folder, might be something in there causing issues with how its reading from it.

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im scared /4xg/
i want it...
but it looks scary...
fuck...
dare i partake in this forbidden fruit?

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>>181769145
Not actually forbidden tech in and on itself, but Materialist Fallen Empires are gonna give you a shit ton of trouble for it.
It leads to synths, however, which are another bag entirely.

>>181769582
I want to fuck that synthetic lifeform.

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>>181769582
post fuckbots

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>>181770327
>>>/d/7498627

>>181770327
r.i.p. w* :'(

>>181769582
>synthetic lifeform.
It's just nuts and bolts, Anon.
Just nuts and bolts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZGzMfg381Y

>90% of all in-game art shows the Stalwart wielding spears
>you can only equip them with swords and longer swords
>this is still a thing in 2017
Amplitude why

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>>181770327

>>181769582
>>181770327
>>181770758
brb embracing spiritualists

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>>181771398
GIB RIGHTS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJ5568fMTT4

>>181772026
brb becoming fanatical spiritualist

Is Boreal the best planet type for Science? And would the second best be Barren or is it better to Terraform to Ocean?

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>>181772026
Oh, silly me. I posted the spic version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYMubUkdcn0

>>181773040
>Is Boreal the best planet type for Science?
in short - yes.

guy I just got stellaris utopia and I want to play as white people does anyone have the mod for it?

>>181774018
Its on the workshop.

>>181774652
i have a cracked version

>>181775267
Tough luck, pal.

>>181775475
Eh fuck it the game most likely sucks anyways. Swedecucks made it.

faggot

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>>181776484
No problem!

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>>181776684
Wow so tolerant!

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>>181776684
>take refugees in
>chain gang them and force them to fight for my empire

I see /pol/ is leaking again.

>>181778917
/pol/ is super busy tonight
thats a /gsg/ nerd

Reposting from the /gsg/ general

Would anyone have any advice on beating Awakened Empires? I'm playing on Iron Man with all the empires on normal difficulty in a mid sized galaxy. Just about everyone in the galaxy at this point hates my guts but they cant do shit since I've got the strongest fleet in the Galaxy at this point.

However, this fucking Awakened Empire wakes up and starts churning out 150k fleets like crazy. My combined forces total like 100k atm, so I always end up having to run whenever this fucker goes to war with me. Ive managed to get him to a white peace this time (no idea how). But I guarantee he's coming after my ass again in 10 years. What do I do?

>>181780332
>/pol/ is super busy tonight
Why? What's going on to keep them from spilling their autism onto other boards?

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Pirates were always a mistake in Endless games. Fuck how do they manage to make so much more annoying and unfun than roaming armies from Endless Legend?!

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>>181778456
Well done!

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>playing multiplayer
>meet sophons
>set off two pirate quests by probing their systems
>they leave the game 10 turns later bitching about pirates
I wish I could say it worked out for me, but the cravers rolled in and took over almost immediately after

>>181781495
why didnt you grab up all that sweet empty land?

>>181782935
Because it doesn't fucking matter against cravers. You just lose.

>>181783682
cravers werent that good in ES1, they would usually lose against non retards. are they different in ES2?

>>181784059
Yes. They have their slavery mechanic in addition to planet depletion meaning they can work planets a fuckton harder at the cost of happiness and late game viability on those planets.

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wtf is going on here?
i got 175 favor with these guys and they fucking hate me? so i cant bring them into my federation.
wtf? this shit is happening to like 4 other empires.
what is happening and how do i fix it?

>>181781495
ES2 needs patches before it can be played MP in a blanced manner. I've been waiting for Vodyani nerf personally.

>>181788734
seems like they don't like your other federation members

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>>181788734
look at this shit.
203 favor.
STILL cant invite to federation.
wtf?

>>181773040
ice

dead

Would overclocking an fx-6300 have any noticeable difference in late game stellaris?

>>181794223
haha

haha haha haha

>>181794223
Don't think so, even Europa Universalis 3 fucks up because of bad optimization if you have too much of the world.

>>181773040
Why would people on Boreal planets produce more science than on an other kind of One Biome planet?

ded general is dead...

>>181788734
they hate your other federation members and wont join with them
>>181789472
that one is weird, why is that?

any of you faggots played a full game of Caveman2Cosmos (mod for Civ IV BTS)?

>>181802671
I think the farthest I got was the early Renaissance period and it was still a long way from over.

>>181803582
I've been playing on and off for about 2 weeks and I'm barely in the classical era

>>181804375
Remember to research breathing so that your units don't drown.

ded once more...

>>181807343
RIP in pepperoni.

>page 10
Fine, let's talk about SEVEN KINGDOMS 2.

Seven Kingdoms 2 is an old real-time strategy game, with limited 4x elements and also a limited economy, more focused on units and experience than on gold.
It's perfectly possible to have a lot of food, a lot of gold, an excellent reputation, but still get rekt because the kingdom attacking you has veteran units.

Therefore, you're encourage to be aggressive, to build up your forces and give experience to your units.
To give you an idea, a human soldier starts with a combat skill of 20. It can go to 200, unlocking a new attack and boosting its HP in the process.
Through it's simplifying the situation, as wealthy and advanced kingdoms can build war machines to compensate for limited manpower, but these have a higher upkeep, don't get experience, and don't benefit from leadership bonuses, so veterans and heroes can tear through war machines.

Ultimately, the game suffers from a couple of flaws : it's too easy to snipe enemy generals and cripple an army, some civilizations are unbalanced (some of them don't have a single ranged attack while others start with one), and there's a lack of unit variety (only soldiers and unique units, not counting the civilians or war machines), and economy is pretty much "spam towns", which makes Egyptians overpowered as they can use temples to boost their population and turtle without needing to expand like other kingdoms, while the AI is pretty retarded, sometimes even unable to recover from their forces, so as soon as you can defeat their main army, they're done for.

>>181802671
I'm not sure it's actually possible.

>>181778456
How do you selectively chain gang populations? I tried to get rid of Horatio in one of my systems, ended up with him being the only species there.

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>>181814013
>trying to get rid of Horatio

>>181814013
You can't fight the sauce.

>>181813963
According to the forums, at least 6 people have achieved it in the past 9 years.

>>181802671
I got to late medieval before the game started crashing. The Da Vinci tanks were pretty fun if a little OP

>>181811732
The thing that I really like about Seven Kingdoms 2 is the freedom you have.

Unlike, I dunno, Lords of Everquest, in which you need to raise your units before promoting them, in Seven Kingdoms 2, you can promote any military unit you want. So you can have a Japanese samurai leading a ninja army, or a greenhorn general leading an army of veterans who can totally rekt his ass (and probably do, because there are no women).

My favourite was when I summoned supernatural monsters to join my army and had them being under my king's command. Out of respect for his unmatched skills, they never defected or died.

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>>181813201

>>181815053
When it was launched, the game was also significantly faster (and faster-paced with far fewer techs and civics, and less behind-the-scenes resource munching. Most of them were also playing on Marathon or something, not Eternity.

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ES2
How to invade? As in the more advanced mechanics. Do I need to keep sending new fleets with more manpower all the time? Where the fuck is the bombard from orbit button to reduce defences?

I am trying to exterminate the trees.


Also, how the fuck do I remove the religious party for the faction quest? I've spent the last 100+ turns boosting support for it as Vodyani.

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And how do Minor Factions work for Vodyani?

I've Brainwashed/assimilated them. Some of them are even within my faction influence area. Game tells me I should be getting their faction trait. But it doesn't look like I am getting any bonus other than the extra resources.

>>181813201
Welp. This confirms the theories from a couple of generals ago.

Auriga confirmed for A Lost and the Guardians, Allayi and Morgawr for her minions.

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>>181818223
Do the fucking tutorial or RTFM they explain all that in great detail, faggot.

>I am trying to exterminate the trees.
Nuke them from orbit, It's the only way to be sure

>Also, how the fuck do I remove the religious party for the faction quest?
Slowly and carefully, there is a politics guide in the OP, start there.

>>181818596
You are getting a faction trait. You can check it out on the empire screen.

I'm not him but have question about planetary assault in es2. I blockade the system and defencive manpower lowers, ok, I get it. But when I press ground battle button all the fleets in orbit deplete their manpower, deploy only current limit and then ground battle happens, where goes the rest of manpower? It comes even to situations where I move fleets out of system, so only one of them spend their crew and bring other fleets a turn later to not waste people into nothing.

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>>181819841
>where goes the rest of manpower?
Unless I'm very much mistaken It goes into reserves and witll join combat as the rounds continue and the initial, first round, force is depleted. No it's not displayed anywhere. Yes it's annoying as fuck.

>>181819841
There's a deployment limit that you can increase through certain techs or eras on the military tree.

>>181769582

Wiz said it will change. It will be the spiritualist one that gives you shit for pursuing sentient AI in the future.

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so as far as i can tell, most of the diplomacy tree in stellaris is simply broken. the finisher doesnt actually fucking work, it doenst increase your trust cap by 50. and the federation system is just broken, you cant actually invite people to your federation

well at lest now i know.

>>181821040
We told you not to buy it.

>>181811732
>Seven Kingdoms 2 is an old real-time strategy game, with limited 4x elements
It's just an rts dude.

>>181821419
Nah, you explore, expand (except with Egyptians), exploit the ressources, and exterminate.

These are 4X elements.

>>181821040
>it doenst increase your trust cap by 50.
It says it does when I open my diplomacy screen.
>you cant actually invite people to your federation
Is this a pirated version or something?

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Ok fags.

Stellaris, Endless Shit 2, Civ, etc etc.... post your min/max factions because thats what these games are all about! Discuss, criticise and improve.

>a good way for new players to get good starting factions for their first gameplay too

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>>181821419
>an old real-time strategy game, with limited 4x elements
>Nah, you explore, expand (except with Egyptians), exploit the ressources, and exterminate.
Perhaps the same could be said of all strategy games.
What is a genre? A miserable little pile of arbitrary conventions! But enough talk! Have at you!

>>181821551

Btw, is strong more worth it than talented? 5% minerals vs +1 star for leaders. I fear the militarist draw from the trait because neither xenophobe or authoritarian ethoses should fall.

>>181821540
no, its the steam version.

>>181821641
And sometimes, they don't make sense.
Like Final Fantasy is supposed to be a roleplaying game, but you're railroaded.

>>181821040

You cant because either the faction doesnt like you or it doesnt like the other members. Besides I think they need that special status beforehand (cant remember the name) that places them in good relations with the federation.

General rule for federations is that they should only be formed by non xenophobe factions of similar ethoses. In those circumstances it becomes ridiculously easy to form one and thats for what they are used for.

>>181821474
I guess broodwar has 4x elements now as well.

Or you just call it an rts because that's what it is.
Saying it has 4x elements is meaningless.

>>181821759
the genre is jrpg, which is something else than the sum of its parts

Does someone know if the functional architecture civic actually reduces space mining stations costs?

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>>181821001

Thinking of buying ES2 but heard there were a ton of game-breaking bugs in it. Should I wait a while yet or are the issues overhyped and the game itself is fun?

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>>181821040
fucking great
now im a genocider appartently, despite having all species on full citizenship, and never been to war.
i will never try a diplo game ever again

>>181822676
There are no more gamebreaking bugs for vast majority of players as of the latest patch. The game is fun but feels a bit raw/unfinished the balance is off the mark and the AI isn't very challenging if you are a 4x veteran.

The game is enjoyable but hits a ceiling of replayability rather quick, due to those factors.

Granted, if you are just looking for something to play it will probably give you a few dozen hours of fun before you start noticing those problems.

>>181821551

I've been trying to develop an egalitarian faction that competes with slavers at min/max at the start but its ridiculously difficult. Im always in doubt if I should take mechanist or not. Slaves with slaver guilds and industrious trait beats robots on tiles superior to 3.

>>181821932
Well, not really, because in Broodwar, you know where you start and you have an idea where the enemy start, so there's no "explore" as you already know how the map is like. same for Supreme Commander.
Rise of Nations and Seven kingdoms 2 have randomly generated maps, as well as ressources, which gives you a reason to explore.

But it's all technical.

>>181822006
Fuck JRPG. Let me be a dick to everyone if I want to, don't have me watch some football-playing kid getting mad that his father is Satan.

>https://www.reddit.com/r/Stellaris/comments/6l8ygk/an_absurd_thought_that_might_workfor_missiles/djs4gol/
>missile retargeting

Holy shit! Will it beat kinetics at the start?

>>181823805

Cant wait to test in the console. Spaceports with synchronized defenses are murderous at the start with missiles. If corvettes become strong too it will be the early game meta.

PD however....

>>181823805
>>181823985

Those swarmer shit missiles. How good are they?

>>181823805
Flak is also turning into a PD slot.

>>181823426
>JRPG
Ehh, JRPG as a genre is mostly about party focused turnbased combat, not about narrative structure. Not sure why you are up in arms about it.

>>181824171
Because RPG means "roleplaying".
What role playing is there in just watching a story?

>>181824108

Its still strong. Kinetics are horse shit late game, save for autos+afterburners because of the shit tracking. MIssiles already deal extra shield damage. That way the player starts with missiles for pwnage and then researches disruptors/lasers for large size weapons and swarmer for mediums. It hits everything.

>>181821932
>Saying it has 4x elements is meaningless.
Sins of a Solar Empire.

>>181824565
Not an argument.

Does anyone else love the religion law in endless space 2? I've become dependent on the "sinners & saints" law for my empire. I love colonizing every planet.

It is to the point where I like dictatorships so that I can guarantee that I get that law.

What are some laws you like?

>>181824923
I like the "fuck all Britbongs" law.

>>181822676
Bugs are gone. Different factions play very differently. Fun game.

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>>181824923
>What are some laws you like?
Doesn't help much but is mandatory for roleplaying.

>>181824923
Ecologist base law makes the early game less painful. Which is why Horatio is the best.
Hopefully the next faction they make are ecologists.

>>181825032
The what?

>>181825424
See >>181825130. It's a law that prevent inbreds inferior beings with buck teeth to reproduce.

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https://wiki.endless-space.com/comics/riftborn

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>>181825663
PRAISE THE WAIFU AND PASS THE SOCK!

>>181825551
But if they don't breed them how can I turn them into Horatio sauce?

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>academy quest
>have to destroy 9 fleets in 20 turns
>only 2 fleets spawn
>fail quest
Bullshit! They don't even attack the Academy system! One of the fleets literally tried to run away!

>>181826047
How do we fix Horatio? Probably the weakest race.

How do we fix voidyani? They ether win or lose the game by turn 30 every game.

>>181826397
>How do we fix Horatio? Probably the weakest race.
Sauce?

They always steamroll me.

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>>181826397
>Horatio
>Weakest

Is shattered crust anomaly supposed to be unfixable or is this another bug?

>>181818707
not enough concrete evidence for the morgawr really

>>181826397
the only time horatio is the weakest is when he gets absolutely nothing to gene mod, which is never

hell, if he gets his hands on gnashast, riftborn, cravers or vodyani, he is literally unstoppable

is 4chans broke?

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How do I into Endless difficulty as the fairies? I just don't seem to be able to deal with the AI's early game. Just got savaged by BL, despite intercepting it's Settler.

I've been going I>F>D>S>Inf, should I be prioritising dust higher?

Help me anon, you are my only hope.

>>181827016
Bug afaik.

>>181822960
>>181825076

Sweet. Thanks for the advice, friends.

>>181822869
>fucking great
>now im a genocider appartently, despite having all species on full citizenship, and never been to war.
>i will never try a diplo game ever again
Did you annex a hive mind?

>forests not temperate
>deserts not sterile
>boreals not fertile
>can't get rid of shattered crust
>academy quest broken
>emergency AI research still drains minerals even when not on top of the queue
>+1 bonus on some planets, doesn't say +1 fucking what, just +1
At least I didn't get the savegame bug.

>>181829893
i honestly don't play mages that much at all, but all of your units are glass cannons; until you get a good frontliner minor faction assimilated, expect high casualties for anything that isn't a pheonix

also, dust is a very high priority due to the pillars; they are your bread and butter that push you beyond your opponents when properly used - also, remember that you can use spells in combat to turn battles!

food is only important to focus on in order to complete borough patterns to fully make use of your pillars

>>181829030
Except Gene modding losses you pop, which is often better than whatever you get from the mod.

>>181831057
Anon you are whining. All those bugs are minor, and if they annoy you so much just wait for the next major path like everyone else is doing. And academy quest is not, in fact, broken.

>>181831767
You are doint it wrong, mate. Horatio is all about gene modding, you just need a big enough population base. If a couple ayys are a significant impact on your economy, your economy is too small.

>>181831176
I'll give more dust focused strategy a shot. Not sure what to axe from T1 to get the dust building but I'll figure something out, thanks.

>>181831767
>not understanding cosr/benefit
once you have like ten or twelve horatio (or like six for the early game) it's always worth it to genemod, you will get more output and faster growth out of them than the shit pops that would be clogging up your planets

if you are actually not genemodding you completely misunderstand the purpose of horatio and should completely reevaluate how to play him

>>181831995
>>181832871
There cost of modding increases by 2 each time. The extra fidsi you get from the mod often doesn't pay until way later compared to just keeping the pop.

That combined with expensive shitty ships means you never win wars.

>>181833846
>There cost of modding increases by 2 each time. The extra fidsi you get from the mod often doesn't pay until way later
Which is why you shouldn't just blindly genemod everything you see, focusing instead on races most useful to your game. And by midgame you should have enough horatios where genemodding is a no-brainer. Just research and build food, mate.