/gwt/ - Gwent: The Witcher Card Game General

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We replace Royal Decree with only 31 cards now?

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I'm not afraid.

Non reddit link to unofficial patch notes: http://www.gwentdb.com/news/124-livestream-recap-balance-changes-and-more

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Sleep tight, princess ;_;

It's hilarious how many bitch tears are flowing right now.

>>181554646
ahem
>>181554890

>>181554971
>debating changes == bitch tears
thanks reddit

>>181554959
rip goat pussy

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F

>Spotters got 1 point buff?

Uhhhh, varu?

>>181555064
it protects them from being sent to the graveyard when reset

also it gives regis HV some extra value if he eats one since he will only get buffed for the base strength

>>181554971
Please don't post ITT unless you're high mmr (700+)

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>weather is deader every patch

100% ready to enjoy this game again tbqh

>>181554783

Because you usually have to build your entire deck around it and it takes some skill to play properly. I could see a nerf if they said it was just too strong (it wasn't but still) but the logic behind it is so ass backwards that it makes you lose faith in this game going forward

>single player
>set myself up so that opponent who has already passed will lose the round because of weather
>pass
>turn ticks over and he takes damage
>I win

>Multiplayer
>same scenario
>turn ticks over
>no damage
>I lose

Swell game where the tutorial works differently than the actual fucking game.

Also can I get some more loading screens between menus?

>>181555439
>Also can I get some more loading screens between menus?
There weren't any a few patches back in CB. Then they somehow introduced them. I don't know why. Maybe all the card arts were buffered in the storage and that's why it lagged if a lot of animated cards were on the field.

So.. SK is Queensgard now?

>>181556060
they're still probably the strongest faction in the game, or at least very close to it

Ya know, I'm just happy they're taking at least the initiative and admitting that weather can be literal AIDs, they may not be making 100% correct decisions every patch but they are making some correct decisions, at least Axemen is now in line and not as AIDs

>>181556060
Standard SK with Mork (or maybe Olgierd?) is still strong, hardly got nerfed. Axemen are dead. Kambi is probably dead. Idk about QG as i think we'll be seeing more Reveal and Calveit NG running medics.

Something nobody seemed to notice: the description on fog wasn't changed. It still says it damages the highest unit, not one of the highest unit. Maybe they meant for it to be changed, but the text didn't change.

>>181556469
i didn't follow the stream during the axemen part but they'd only be "dead" if they cant get multiple boosts a turn for every point of damage inflicted on the other side

axemen + stamlefords tremor's = OP as fuck

>>181556183

The bear and weather changes are being undersold in relation to SK. How do they even pop the lord for HaJ unless they use the 5 damage silver or madman? SK lost quite a bit of power but it wasn't guillotined like everybody wanted.

>>181556295
crokeyz pls

also I agree. i'd rather have action than months/almost years of inaction like some devs.

>>181556565
That's just them being bad with text. Card text inconsistencies in this game are everywhere.

>succ dead
>weather monsters dead
>renew dead again
>card is played too much, better kill it xD
Nice balance testing there CDPR. Fucken retards.

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Ledditors currently acting like spoiled children because they can't get full refund from 90% of monster

>>181556565
honestly CDPR need some dude who knows how to write english to fly on over and give them a lesson in grammar.

>>181556985
everything bad brought on us by this hotfix is their problem. let them burn

>>181556985
I think even the refund is a bit too generous.
They will surely change it in the future to 80 or 90% of the scrap value.

>>181556695
How are they gonna get large boots per turn now that frost is dead? You'd also need the opponent to have multiple units along with multiple tremors in your hands. Even if you get the god draw, you'll likely only get huge axemen for 1 round if they aren't mardro'd, igni'd or scorched. and then how do you win the 2nd now that you can't spam frost on every round?

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*********IMPORTANT***************

WEATHER KNIGHTS ARE NOW

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>>181556859
Succubus was from the dark past of Gwent where Rot Tossers worked just like her.

More than half of factions don't even have a way to counter Succubus, stop bawwww'ing holy fuck.

>>181557163
Perfect timing, right as weather dies.

>>181557084
What's bad? Is your cookie cutter deck useless now? Just craft a new one.

>>181557163
LUL

>>181557163
RIP weather monsters

rev up those ignis boys we NR meta now

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Time to shine baby

>>181557254
reddit it's about time you niggers realize this site isn't meant for you

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>>181557347
>i will never play my premium Eredin again

>>181557115

Even the Jews at hearthstone give you a full refund when they change cards

>>181557471
yeah but they only change cards like twice a year.

>>181557517

They did it much more often in the beta and at the very beginning

post those bigdick reveal decks

do I fit letho in post patch?

>>181557669
theyve also become a lot more jewier so

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I threw up a little.

>people STILL don't have a full collection after that meteorite for scrap nerfs

lmaoing@yourlives

>Axemen getting nerfed
>Unpacked premium axemen
Patch when?

>>181557163
enjoy good weather and sunshine, Mr Eight STR card

>>181558110
keep them, reddit will cry their VIKANGZ got nerfed and they'll get buffed again

>>181557778
doesn't matter, we'll be able to purchase dust and recraft like we did the last time around

>>181557701
Why would you put Letho in reveal if it wasn't in reveal before
Nothing actually changed, just numbers

Guys, the mill values displayed during the stream were back to 5 and 10. I'm scared.

>>181558230
actually now that leo is kill letho might take his place

letho d bomb could be the BSC killer we will desperately need soon enough

>>181558176
Nah they are getting nerfed. When the patch is out will mill them for full value.
DESU in spite of the fact that they are now forever hardcountered my mardroeme removing veteran is barely a nerf. The rest of SK getting gutted is what truly makes this great

So spawned units are ones that are added to the game, not played from your deck, right?

So Bears will still hit stuff like BSC and Witchers

>>181558549
Yes

It wont break harpy eggs because those are summoned, same with Woodland's wolves

>>181558549

Pretty sure the text said it only hits cards played from hand.

>>181558549
played from hand
this means that if you play vesemir from your hand, only the old man is molested

All around bear is still good, but not OP like now.

ATM next big guys seems to be Consume, NR and Skellige.

But I am not still sure about NR if they become prominent in the meta people will start to tech against them.

IS queensguard the go to for Skellige?

I destroyed the challenges with a slightly modified wild hunt deck but against other players I'm always seeing weather clears and fairly even distribution on the board.

I wanted to play an NR deck that focused on drawing from the deck and triggering fresh crew for card advantage but it just doesn't seem to be coming together with base cards.

>>181558704
>Vesemir getting raped by a bear as Eskel and Lambert watch
Thanks CDPR.

>>181558879
since weather got nerfed hard teching against NR will rely mostly on igni and epidemic, NR will have to use dandelion / immune boost to reduce potential damage, besides that you can gear up against them that much IMO

>>181558926
I hope warcry is more viable now

>>181558926
Queensguard is currently solid and will continue to be good after the patch hits and everyone flails around since the patch did nothing to the gud gittin queensguard decks. There's slightly a chance that warcry will be playable without the rampant homosex of weather everywhere, and axemen will probably be decent they'll just have to move to closer to a closed beta deck rather than retarded open beta spell fest. Skellige will be fine.

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Can I finally play Harald axemen the proper way now without people thinking I'm a cunt?

>>181559214
no. you need to wait until the next hotfix when they nerf SK even more because they went easy on you after the rape that was the current meta

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who still running 7 weathers postpatch here? Except frost. It is straight garbage now. I look forward to everybody dropping their clears. Might even run gold weather

>>181558191
>doesn't matter, we'll be able to purchase dust and recraft like we did the last time around
no?

RIP Regis. They should at least strengthen him instead of boosting to balance it.

>>181559071
everyone will be running igni now anyway in place of renew

>>181559461
I honestly think weather spawning units will still be fine. Especially as everyone drops weather clear and only runs mages.

Gold weather? Could be a comeback.

>>181559597
That'll be nice especially with renew.
Just like Regis in the game he comes back from the dead even stronger.

since weather has changed for the worse, frost affecting the lowest units and fog one of the highest does that mean my Caranthir and Woodland Spirit can be dusted for its full value?

>>181559698
>he comes back from the dead

N O T C A N O N
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>>181559727
>Woodland Spirit
no

>>181559461
Frost is still good in a beast deck

All you need to drop two on command is one hound in hand and either a navigator to summon another hound or Eredin/Dagon deploy.

Bunch of synergy with Imlerith, Nithral, giants and Drowners.

Definitely bad for any other deck though.

>>181559727
Frost is 1 damage to all, fog is 2 to the highest and rain is 2 to the lowest

Gwent decks, gwentify or GwentDB?

So since NR is now cancer, rev up those Igni into Renew into Igni again

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>>181559841
>mediocre slav fantasy literature
You wouldn't believe how much of that shite we have here. I really don't want to straight up call you a pleb, so I'm just gonna say that the witcher's place is definitely in video games

deadest game

>>181560187

>not just running bork

oh...nevermind

Is there even a reason to have more than 25 cards?

Garrunah would be such a good streamer if he didn't play his shitty music

>>181560336
Unless you have cards that auto thin like Golems or most of NR's cards

Then no

>>181560235
Hey to be fair the writing is great for video games.

>>181560235
>literally melted to liquid glass
>somehow comes back from the dead because lol made up lore only higher vampires kill other higher vampires

this has nothing to do with mediocre slav fantasy literature, its a retarded retcon

So who are top dogs now?

1. NR
2. SK
3. ST
4. MN
5. NG

Yes/no?

Trebuchet gonna be a sleeper hit senpai

>>181560336
If you are running the meme NR deck that uses max amount of cards? Sure.
Otherwise, probably not.

>>181560773
Too early to tell. Hold your horses faggot.

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>>181560773
> 3.ST

How am I supposed to do my daily 6 rounds when I know theres a patch coming..

>>181559461
I think this would work especially immediately after the patch. Everybody will drop weather clearing

>>181560462
I didn't say anything about the writing in the games, it's definitely okay. The books, however, in addition to being fantasy lit which is already the plebbiest thing in the world, are meh at best. We've also gotta remember that books and video games are different mediums that speak entirely different languages. I honestly think Andrzej should've been a film director, he's incredibly good at creating short self-contained cinematic tense situations, otherwise he's medicore at the very best
>>181560628
Geralt not being dead is a retarded retcon, Yennefer not being dead is a retarded retcon, a bunch of famous characters popping up randomly out of nowhere when they're needed is just retarded, Merigold's entire existence and her character in W1 and 2 is pure retardation and poor taste. The games are not even close to perfect in that regard, but they still had to somehow dig up all the crowd's favorites to make an actual video game out of it

The reason why they nerfed caranthir row's movement is because more than 50% of the time he was used in combination with water hag's lacerate

reddit somehow thinks this is not the case and it's an over nerf but they're also fucking idiots

Gold weather about to make a comeback?

Clear Skies about to be used again?

Missed the stream? How are SK Pirates looking? Ciri Dash? Johnny?

New to Gwent form one season of hearthstone.

I think I have the basics and I am reading up on some top rated decks to get a feel for the meta but I am stuck on one.

http://www.gwentdb.com/decks/12317-4400-princess-of-skellige

I seem to understand the deck right up until you are supposed to play spies. What spies?

Birna Bran is the only spy. I feel like I must be missing something or something in the article is wrong. I would have to hope the enemy has a spy and then counter with Donar, archer or a removal and then steal it with Birna and then resurrect it instead of Pirates.

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we did it reddit

problematic cards dealt with wooo!
>le 7 strength bear
we run things now

my wifes son will be very pleased

>>181562173

There is literally nothing wrong with that combo. I guess we should just nerf every high power gold/silver combo in the game

>>181563579
this is a deck from february 2017 what the fuck are you doing

>>181563051
SK pirates was untouched

They buffed wound

Kambi is back to being a meme

Hjallmar is now on Tibor's level

181563579
jesus christ
not even worth a you

>>181563868
Top rated is top rated even if it isn't relevant now, it was but I don't understand how it was supposed to work.

>>181563579
This is a really outdated, not to mention weird and clunky deck.
Skellige is getting fucked next patch, but if you're not afraid here's a couple of decent decks
Queensguard http://www.gwentdb.com/decks/21617-merchants-queensguard-new-patch
Axemen Weather http://www.gwentdb.com/decks/20610-updated-swims-axemen-spellige-top-4
Kambi/Weather hybrid http://www.gwentdb.com/decks/23190-3800-65-winrate-kambi
Boats/Morkvarg bullshittery http://www.gwentdb.com/decks/21349-greyboxers-gamebuster-boats-new

>>181564131
You seem upset.

>>181564210
Thanks but I wasn't looking for a deck to run, I was trying to understand why that deck was constructed that way, specifically it's spy stage.

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How do we know these changes are the real deal?
We had a stream that explained some changes that never went through in the actual patch.

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>>181564381
The deck's main idea is to thin as much as possible with the discards, make Ciri: Dash as thicc as possible while maintaining your carryover units and getting mad value from veteran passive and the skirmisher, no clue what's this spy thing you're talking about

>>181564709
of course we cant know for sure

>>181565193
It specifically says to play spies in round 2 to delay and to force the opponent to spend more cards before round 3.

I understand round 1 and 3.

@181564381
>specifically it's spy stage.

Donar used to be a Spy, and he had Udalyrk's current ability.

Birna Bran was also a Spy, her ability was Draw 3 cards, keep 1 and discard the rest.

>>181556859
>renew dead

kek, what a brainlet

>>181562173
>Jotunn is now GoodCaranthir
>As a silver
>The 2 cards are not even in different factions, like Shani/Sigdrifa

Hmm

>>181565609
Perfect thanks.

>>181565609
Just click on their post number to reply

>>181566548
He's being an asshole because questions aren't allowed.

@181566548
no (you)s for (you), mister

what the hell's going on with these changes? you'd figure after all this time the game's been in beta cdpr would have the necessary data and information to properly balance the game by now

@181567162
Make your own game than.

>>181567162
appeasement to the whales on reddit the only ones who pay

wait for them to rally and do it again

>>181564191
Cards in that deck has been completely changed. Birna and Donar used to be spies that give you card advantage. Don't look at the decks before the open beta.

God bless CDPR
FUCK WEATHER

>>181567162

The changes are mostly fine outside of weather and bork. Don't really know what they were thinking with those. Frost in particular is just a worse version of new rain

>Tfw 20,000 scrap
>Haven't even really played since the last big nerf where I got all the scrap

>>181567668
>bork change
>bad

>>181559671
Gold weather was mediocre when it was 3 damage. Why would it be played when it's now even worse?

>>181567474
Thanks, someone already answered

>>181567673
Thanks, several people already answered. Again, I wasn't looking for a deck to play, I was trying to understand why it was referring to spies. Couldn't know if I misunderstood part of the game or, as it turned out, the article was incorrect.

>>181567802

>have to build your deck around it
>gives 3 turns to counter
>can be used against you

bork is the definition of a fair card. Their reason for nerfing it was "new players are bad at the game" which is a stupid and bullshit reason

>>181568094
Yeah, why on earth would they want to encourage new players to join?

>>181568216
because whats the point of new players if when they become experienced they leave the game because it becomes stale and no fun?
gut all the cool cards and combos and there is no reason to play

>>181568339
What is the point of cool cards if no one is playing the game?

>>181568216
>>181568978
Making a game with no depth is not the secret of a succesful game. By your logic HotS should be the most popular MOBA because its braindead simple, while LoL and DotA are far more complicated and interesting.
Instead HotS is barely played by anyone because its boring as fuck. Turning gwent back into playing your units (that have no abilities) one at a time will ruin it for everyone.

>>181568216
>>181568978

This is such a stupid argument. Bork doesn't even punish new players since everybody starts with shackles. It punishes bad players or rewards good playing/deck building. If they wanted to nerf everything that hurt bad players they would remove half of the golds from the game

>>181568978
if the cards are cool there will be people playing tho.
like its the same problem between popular and good
wider vs core audience etc.
i prefer small community over hs crowd
but whatever its not for us to decide and they need to make money but its a shame if they remove all unique shit

>>181569304
>Making a game with no depth is not the secret of a succesful game
You are dead wrong

>>181569315
I never said anything about bork, I implied it was obvious why they would make it easier for newer players. Stop projecting.

>>181569448
Sure but the money is in wide, it's a microtransaction game at it's core.

>guy ropes me just to play a fucking harpy
>i play a premium, he takes 20 seconds to look at it

yeah, take your free mmr, i'm out

>>181569778

Except they aren't making things easier for new players retard; they are just nerfing a unique card for no reason under the guise of making it easier for new players which is the whole problem. It implies a fundamental misunderstanding of the game, sets a bad precedent for design decisions, and doesn't really address why new players struggle against certain cards beyond obvious power differences.

>>181570576
I never said they were, stop projecting.

I said it was obvious why they would do that, in response to someone whining about CDP nerfing his favorite card because new players are bad.

>>181570757

Then all you have is a pointless strawman. Nobody ever said they shouldn't make things easier for new players in the first place or not encourage new people to join

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>win a round
>next round, win screen stuck, no way to remove it, just forfeit because you can't see shit
after seeing all these garbage balance changes I don't feel like playing gwent ever again
200 hrs just wasted

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>>181569304
>HotS is barely played by anyone because its boring as fuck
Delet this. HotS is a great game.

>>181571012
The strawman is that there are nerfs because new players can't cope.

I simply implied that making the game more accessible to new players made perfect sense.

Again, the whiner was the one saying CDPR was nerfing his fun for the sake of new players.

>Chance to give your opponent free things
>They have no incentive to do the same for you

Gwent? More like Cuck.

>>181571549

Did you even watch the stream? They literally said they were nerfing brok because new players struggled against it.

Gwent DB is an absolute trash resource.

Are there any no scrap decks that can grind well?

Everything I see is NR thinning and Wild hunt weather. Should I just try to tech against that?

>>181571815
>nerfing for new players is a strawman!
>Nerfing for new players is confirmed by stream

You are both retarded because neither stance has any relevance to what I said. Some whiner was complaining about nerfs to his favorite card and couldn't understand why CDPR would change the game to make room for new players. I implied it made perfect sense financially.

It doesn't matter why they changed bork because I was arguing against a conceptual remark not a factual one.

>2017
>Still can't cancel a card before it is dropped

What a terrible game.

what sort of expansions/adventures do you think we are looking at boys?

other than a trip to the cuck shed

>>181572443

Then your remark is pointless and doesn't address why the I, the whiner, or whoever else it is has a problem with the nerf. I'm sure everybody agrees that they should try to get new people and help them in some way, but nerfing cards with unique mechanics in an effort to help new players is dumb, especially when it doesn't even address why new players struggle with them in the first place, and will lead to an overall worse game. It doesn't matter whether it's bork, succ, vilge, etc. It shows developer incompetence and is something core players should be concerned about

>>181573238
>Then your remark is pointless
So is whining about new players ruining your fun. They already had your interest and lose nothing if they lose you.

All unique mechanics get nerfed over time in all games, don't like it? Make your own game and stop whining.

>literally EVERYONE now runs weather before it gets destroyed
fucking awful

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niggas in here acting like they have equity by defending CDPR neutering interesting card concepts

>Win a match with skill
>Win a round and forfeit

Either way the grind for new cards is ridiculously slow. It makes hearthstone look generous. CCG's were mobile games before mobiles existed.

>>181574229

There's no way you could possible think that. You can easily get 3 kegs a day playing gwent. In HS you couldn't even dream of doing that

Who else happy they'll no longer be oppressed by the auto-include Olgierd in this thread? HECK YEAH BOYS

>>181574395
that's because HS cards come in packs - not kegs, dummy

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>It ruins the new player experience

Oh no, they're becoming Blizzard, please stop them

>>181574093
>I have never played an online game before: The post

Unique? More like meme. Everyone will play that deck for a few weeks then everyone will play the counter tech. CDPR will get inundated with complaints and they will nerf the meme which will make the counter useless.

The only value in multiplayer is well balanced gameplay. People that need meme decks are bad players.

>>181574229
Hearthstone you would get half a pack from dailies and another pack for 30 wins (lmao)

It was by far the bitchiest game I've botted just because it's impossible to get any decent amount of gold

Also what a waste of cpu time botting hs turned out to be

>>181574395
Hearthstone provides you with base decks that can still compete against crafted decks and it buries new players in card packs. You get your dailies done in 5 games or less and you can infinite grind in arena regardless the quality of the cards you own at a better rate than gwent.

>>181574925

Is this a joke? None of the base decks will get you past rank 15 in HS while stuff like Wild Hunt or weather (until the nerf) will easily carry you to 2000 mmr

>>181574625
>I don't know what the arena is because I never actually played the game

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Reminder that b8 is not fit for human consumption

to be honest, as a monster player I can't wait to get rid of fucking crones, foglets and frost because every game is a fucking gamble
only fun monster deck can't be played because of weather and finally this shit is going down
i know cdpr are retards, but at least they will give me few weeks of fun before applying another ''''''''hotfix''''' to '''''''''''adjust'''' consume monster because "new players get confused by lizard getting from 5 to 11 power after eating 1 power egg so we had to remove boost from it"

>>181575138

Every class in hearthstone can complete the dailies in ranked or unranked allowing new players to get full rewards while learning any deck.

Right now there are only two base decks that can compete at all, NR and Wild hunt. Wild hunt needs weather and weather is getting nerfed.

HS grinding is bad, Gwent grinding is worse.

>>181575138
I rode a trio deck to 2500 mmr and then converted it into a frost deck which got me to 3500. I am still f2p, and will have enough scrap after the patch for a deck from scratch.
Face it, Gwent lavishes you with resources while you still can't make a t1 deck in HS, even playing months of arena.

>>181575408
Not to mention the real grind is in the arena which requires zero cards and encourages player growth.

If you want to grind as a new player in gwent you better like looking at the same 25 cards all fucking day.

Over-argumentative fuckboy anon just wants (You)'s

>>181575512
>Trio
>Base

Pick one.

>tfw you fully invested all powder and scraps into NR when open beta hit as a F2P account

WHO'S THE KEK NOW!?

@181575638
None for you sweetie.

>>181575408
>>181575549

Dallies get you 40-60 gold. You have to actually win 3 at a time to get 10 gold, which caps at 100 a day. Packs cost 100. That is a pack a day if you grind for it. That is nowhere near as good as gwent

As far as arena goes, no new player is going to be able to infinite. In fact arena as a whole is getting so RNG heavy and snowbally that actually infinite players are at their lowest since like naxx.

There's no possible way you could seriously think hearthstone is more generous to new players than gwent. It doesn't even give you a fucking legendary to start

>>181575669
>craft a few commons
>climb 1500 mmr
I played with imlerith/geralt until about 2500, when I switched into a real deck after the patch.

>>181576214
>no new player is going to be able to infinite
ohhhhh, you couldn't infinite so you think no one can. I get it.

Yeah stick with gwent if you cant play very well.

There are literal tools that will tell you how to make a deck based off the available cards.

Also tavernbrawl is an incredibly fast way to grind the daily 100 from wins.

And again, you can have fun as a new player ranking up, you can't in gewnt unless you have a hard on for wild hunt

>>181576505
>Wild hunt

We already know it can climb so can NR. Name one more base deck that can climb.

>>181576520

Nigger I was both a legend and infinite player f2p only. That's how I know HS is bullshit in terms of helping new players. No player just starting out is going to be able to infinite even if they use a few guides and shit like heartharena. It still takes practice and experience

>>181576842
>Nigger I was both a legend and infinite player
>Can't infinite

Sounds legit.

>>181576657

as soon as you name those f2p hearthstone decks that can climb

HS guy is clearly baiting, just stop replying

>>181576842
>Guides

There are apps and pc utilities that let you input the cards you can choose from and it builds a deck based on the hero, current choice and what was already picked.

stop responding to this "hs is less p2w" baiting please

>>181576968
Every base deck can climb. Literally every one of them.

Mage is the wild hunt of HS though.

Is there a way to turn meteor dust into cards? I don't care at all about the art, just want cards.

>>181576936
Not him, but if you legitimately think any new player can just stroll into arena and go infinite you are retarded.

https://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/20695743/top-100-arena-players-march-2017-4-13-2017

The break even point for arena where you can get the 150g back guaranteed and go infinite is 7 wins. In March for instance not even 80 people could go infinite in arena for the whole NA region.

I love when I can't mulligan because "your opponent is choosing" is in the forefront and I cant see shit.

I would also like to not have to tell the game that I don't want to mulligan after I already chose to not mulligan.

>>181577204
if you call getting rank 20 for card back climbing they you are right

>>181577562
>I cant infinite so no one can

There are literal programs that walk you through the deck building for the best possible deck. Anyone with a hand can do it.

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Just got my lvl 20 reward, it's ok I guess.

When the new patch gets released it might be unironically one of the best Monster golds, considering NR will be rampant and with weather being weak as shit people won't care as much about row stacking.

>>181577334
not anymore. milling premium cards for instance refunds both scraps and meteorite dust whereas during the previous patch players milled premiums for their full scrap value, recrafted twice with meteorite powder to keep the chain going

>>181577334
Last patch during the refund period you could turn a nerfed card into a premium and mill it for the full scrap value of the premium.
They are fixing it for this patch now so now I'm afraid you are going to need to make movie cards and like it.

Gwent down for anyone else?

>>181577740

So I guess only 80 people in NA have hands

>>181578381
No one? I'm always stuck when trying to sign in.

>check Reddit to see their opinion on the patch
>Not a single positive comment despite the fact that this patch is almost exactly what they asked for
>Saying shit like Hjalmar and Caranthir are now dead cards and overnerfed

Why do CDPR listen to these people again?

>>181579042
Nah im in running a shitter wildhunt weather deck right now

>tfw gutted

why do they hate Rad?

>>181579065
>reddit is one person

People don't go online to talk about things they like unless they are justifying a purchase. We live in a contrarian society that hates change and loves to talk about it.

>>181578381
yeah, it turned into a HS general send help

There are people in this thread RIGHT NOW who actually believe that Borkh was buffed and not nerfed. Brainlets pls go

>>181579065
no other options
lets have weekly letter from /gwt/ to cdpr

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>>181579279

forgot pic

>>181565193
>someone uses my image

thank you anon

It's a shame that brainlessly dropping cards in round 1 will usually get you a win and you could just forfeit for faster grinding but you can force them to play all their cards in round 2 because they have to win, then round 3 is a literal coinflip

>>181579991
it's this game called Gwent

>>181579065
Hoping CDPR doesn't back off like they did with Skellige. Maybe they realized reddit is filled with retards who will defend their netdecks to death

Hi /vg/!

New player here.

I really want to get into this game but i feel so oppressed by all of these powerful cards that i don't even have. I personally find this to be quite problematic, and am rather disheartened.

I think they should lower the power of the stronger cards people use frequently so weaker players like me who are being oppressed can feel happy and continue to support the game ^^

Don't you agree? Power to the plebians so to speak :P

>Game wont tell you how many rounds you have won
>Will show you the last reward tier you achieved

I guess I am always down for at least 2 games but what kind of backwards eurotrash thinking lead to that design?

>Regis and Leo now work off of base strength
>UI doesn't show you base strength

Smart.

>>181580967
You care way too much about this.

>>181581045
It doesn't even accurately keep track of the last reward tier you completed. It's very often 10 rounds ahead of where I'm actually at for some fucking reason.

Dead game. Dead thread.

Gwent competing with HS is literally battleborn competing with overwatch.

Why can't blizzard lose?

>>181581130
It's about new players, anopn. we don't want to confuse them or have them get frustrated they haven't memorized every card's base value yet

>>181577908
Old Speartip used to be insane in CB, then again he occupied a silver slot then.

>>181581163
Nah, let this game die. Balance team is fucking retarded.

test

>Have to attack your own cards if a deploy effect does damage with no valid enemy targets
>Can't attack succubus on your side

solid

>>181579065
cause theyre the paying customer base

>level 1
>Succubus weather deck

Absolutely cancer.

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>They actually just made Trebuchets buffable by Sergeants
>After they made Sergeants agile AND crewmen
>In anticipation of a Consume Monster meta

Well, netdeck picrelated and collect your free MMR, I suppose

>>181579065
No one asked for nerfing both weather AND the cards that summon weather

anyone here actually spend money on this

>>181583054
I like gwent so don't get the wrong idea but will this kill the game? What is the point of the board layout if half the cards are agile and most of the current net decks will be using agile cards?

>we dont like carry over from morkvarg
>Except when monsters do a 30 point carry over that's fine

>>181583312
the game is already dead

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>>181583325
>Absolutely Oppresive.jpg

>>181582049
Blizzard is loosing. Hearthstone is dying. At this point, the playerbase is lower than ever.

>>181582659
This. At the end of the day they're a business, and businesses grow by drawing in customers. Can't have these new players being turned away by le oppressive cards.

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>>181583054
>swordsman
>is a ranged and siege unit

>>181571387
>not knowing what all the cards look like in this meta despite the filter and winning anyways
step up senpai

>>181584543
That's an easy one. Sergeants can be anywhere cause they don't do any actual fighting, that's what the POOR FUCKING INFANTRY is for.

>>181583054
in case any brainlets try this, this is actually a post patch deck, you need to wait for the change that will make Trebuchets 3 strength

>>181584843
>a post patch deck
with 3 weather clears and renew.

No temerian infantry and Henselt.

give it to me straight /gwt/:
what's the best deck this patch and how do I get in on it?

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So henselt breaking the sergeant almst lost me the fucking game because it prevented me from clicking 2 cards at one point

NICE FUCKING GAME POLES

>>181585783
>your opponent played "here, take card advantage - the card"
>you almost lost

??

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>>181554750
changes very disappointing for the most part, succubus nerf is just plain retarded, only way it'd work out is if they made her a 2 or 1.

ithlinne nerf is just fucking stupid at this point, she has been completely shat on now, and the only reason she even sees play is because ST simply has no other playable golds, with most ST decks running 3 neutrals and saskia.

the double and triple nerfs show a clear lack of communication in the developer team, and the fact that they claim to balancing around new players, and in the process, completely destroy the control archetype, with the borkh rework as a prime example, is very, very bad for the long-term health of the game.

who exactly are they trying to cater to, when gwent was supposed to be the harder, no rng, combo/control centered card game in the market.

why are they catering to hearthstone players instead of their own playerbase, with this retarded rework to weather, which makes the cards entirely RNG?
>>181585783
you can still click the cards underneath, but you have to go at it with weird angles and hover just by the card, has happened to me many times playing henselt reavers post weather patch

>>181586480
i had 2 seige towers in hand, i wasn't going to lose

>>181586480
my bad, he actually played TWO of those cards, what a madman

>>181586531
you're the one who said you almost lost. I was only quoting you, brainlet

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Could someone better than I tell me hot to adapt my deck for the coming hotfix?

Want to get rid of renew, it was nice in specific situations, but now that Comin'ForYa is doomed and Madman is basically single use because I only have 1 Raider as ammo.

Swap Renew for Coral maybe? I have the scraps for another gold.

>>181586501
>a clear lack of communication in the developer team
the game is balanced based on input from:

reddit
streamers
internal QA
whoever speaks up during a meeting

The best players are not equipped to balance or design games, the employees work on the game and are not top tier players and the other is geocities fansite.

>>181586820
scrap everything you can get full value for (bears, maidens, hjalmer, bears + renew) and make a new deck

What's with all the doomsaying in this thread.

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All those poor Monster cucks hoping for SK to be nerfed only to get nerfed themselves.

>>181587468
hey poorfag: get some reading comprehension

>>181587468
can't wait for NR ST meta with Reveal being tier 3 as always

>>181587132
going by popular streamers' opinions on the latest patch, their input was largely ignored.
reddit is not happy with the patch.
that leaves internal QA and CDPR employees as the problem.
their lack of experience balancing card games is plainly evident, people need to be removed or replaced, two patches in a row is too much.

>ST meta
Might want to check the patch notes

Which faction's players whine the most? Which faction's players do you find the most annoying?

SK?
NG?
MO?
NR?
ST?

>>181588007
Monsters whine most and are generally childish prats. See PumpkinShlt.

Nilfgard whines but deservably so. They and ST can't catch a break.

Northern realms are generally chill.

Sk, up until now, didn't complain and generally laughed their way to the MMR bank.

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>>181588176
>Sk didn't complain

>>181588176
pumpkinshit almost exclusively played spell ST, until it was nerfed into the ground.
definitely isn't a monster player.

>>181587928
>going by popular streamers' opinions on the latest patch, their input was largely ignored.
Regardless, a core group is directly asked and has their input considered. Was there much grumbling about anything besides weather?

>reddit is not happy with the patch.
theyre happy to get namechecked

>that leaves internal QA and CDPR employees as the problem.

Yeah. And they're trying to hire an eSprots coordinator instead of the many people who have worked as leads on physical games for years and had to deal with metas far in advance thru testing because cards take time to be printed.

literally anyone who isn't a shitter/cosplayer plays more than one faction.

>>181588176
I lost one game to Frost Axemen this patch before I dropped my faction to play nothing but SK.
Have 0 complaints.

>>181588176
I play monster because I have no other choice
I got good drops for weather so I'm pretty much forced to play it
After patch might take a look into anything that isn't weather monster

When will patch hit?

2 hours

>told by Gwent players that it's easy to get cards in this game
>it's not
I think I've been spoiled by Shadowverse.

>>181586501
How about you play with the changes first before throwing a hissy fit

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>win streak my tier rewards reveal
>mfw dunno if its luck or reveal being decent

>>181589265
they literally gave away 10k scraps to f2p players that did their dailies last patch and double that to more time committed players. you could also buy enough cards with meteorite to make every meta deck for under a hunderd dollars.

oh, right, it's a long weekend in burger land.

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i'm ready for new retarded meta

>>181589272
the changes are stupid, any 1000 mmr shitter can see that.
are they great for new players? that's debatable, but that's the reason they put up for doing everything in this hot fix. not something anyone wanted to hear, who already played the game and enjoyed it for what it was

>>181588176
> See PumpkinShlt.
Not even 1 sentence in and its obvious you dont know what youre talking about.

>>181585368
Here's an idea: stop being a netdecking faggot and figure shit out for yourself.

>>181590049
why would I when the top NR scientists are currently doing it for me?

>>181583312

Tbh most cards SHOULD be agile. The only cards you want to be not-agile should be high value plays, tech cards or mill cards:
>you know where Shield Maidens will line up so you can preempt them by putting a bomb/weather on that row.

>2 cards that would wreck if placed next to eachother would be broken arent allowed to be played like that due to row commitment.

Stuff like this.

The real issue is that if weather is useless then agile and non-agile lose all meaning.

>>181590617

>most cards SHOULD be agile

Nah, I should be able to predict where your units will land. This naturally keeps powerful cards in check without the devs having to micromanage every card. If a card emerges as super powerful in a particular meta, it will be held back by the fact that everyone can just preemptively weather their row.

r/gwent is at it again. Bunch of whining crybabies.

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Where did he get that invisible 9 strength card from? I would be very pissed if that won him the game

>>181592869

Looks like there's an invisible unit on the melee row.

Actually cautiously optimistic about these changes.

NG reveal looking strong, and while the change to Calveit's ability is unfortunate (but not undeserved), the fact that golems come out first at least makes cycle NG playable again.

NR looks like it's getting buffs all around which is needed. Let's only hope they don't become the next broken thing.

SK is definitely still strong. QG and Discard untouched, the rest was tuned down a bit. Good thing that they didn't overnerf it.

ST sees a few cards buffed. Not much, but Milva and Vrihedd Sapper are notable, while Spell decks are finally in the gitter where they belong. Looks like we'll slowly get classic ST back.

Only monsters look weak but let's see. I think next meta will be better. But knowing CDPR, they'll just revert the good stuff and overtune monsters because r/gwent told them to.

>>181592869
Maybe an invisible Chort from prize winning cow. Did he play a cow previously?

>>181593572
>ST sees a few cards buffed. Not much, but Milva and Vrihedd Sapper are notable, while Spell decks are finally in the gitter where they belong. Looks like we'll slowly get classic ST back.
How was Milva changed? Are you talking about the milva/roach interaction? Because that is not a buff. She still only triggers if your opponent has a non-gold unit on the board.

>>181594053
Ah, alright then I misread her. This is sad, but still understandable.

>>181594226
You didn't misread her. The card text just doesn't reflect how she works. It's also not consistent with other cards that can gain CA benefits in specific situations. Tibor and Avallach for instance still trigger if your opponent can't draw any cards, but Milva will not trigger if your opponent has nothing but golds on the field.

>>181593572

They absolutely destroyed weather for no reason. Frost was the only one that needed a slight nerf to bring it fog/rain levels. I don't even know why you would ever use new frost over rain

>>181594607
CDPR said they want positive weather effects too and rework weather in general (again). This just screams desperate hotfix to me. I won't complain though. It kills spell decks (thank god), weakens axemen decks and leaves some room for further adjustments. Shame about monsters but you can't have it all.

They should buff Nithral to have frost still do 2 to everything on the row.
I don't even play Monsters but I spent all last patch laughing at anyone dumb enough to play that cuck.

>>181594607
Killing weather is a good thing. May I remind you that the best metas didn't feature weather decks at all?

>>181594607
What am I missing about new rain? It seems weak as shit to me. It can do up to 5 damage a turn if you're rowstacking and they all have the lowest str on the row. That seems really easy to play around.

>look up the patch notes on r/pleb
>the entire page is filled with complaints and whining

Holy fuck. These people have really no integrity or self awareness. It was them who wanted these changes in the first place. Not to mention that they do the same show every time the devs patch something. These people are garbage. Ruined previous metas and still try to do that again.

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>>181596127

>>181596127
people only say anything when its upsets them
how many good positive post you see in general?
the ones that state how balanced card or with good use?
if everything is fine people still only voice complaints

>>181560846
Yeah, ''''''sleeper'''''''' hit. Only everyone knows damn well NR is going to be OP this patch, that includes trebs/sergeant combo. dont even need an operator now, can use that silver slot freely.

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So machine NR is godlike next patch?

>>181597905

Probably some variation on the 37 card deck that replaces Adepts with machines.

>>181597905
Yes, redditor will call it sleeper but anyone with a brain could have seen CDPR overnerfing MN and SK, while buffing NR, which already had several good decks.

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>>181598091
>ST still dead

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Who prepping for the coming NR apocalypse by loading up on scorch and gigni? You could maybe even make a counter-NR NR deck with shit like redanian knights and redanian elites since siege weapons don't ignore armor any more. There is of course also queensguard which sail through this patch almost completely unchanged. Future's so bright I gotta wear shades.

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>>181587468
thats funny because the only deck that is out of control now is consume monsters

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>"It's an oppressive card"

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>>181599392
>Auto-includes himself in every deck and oppresses your card game

i will be ableto refund regis and avallach for full price, right ?

regis is absolute dogshit now.

also why do you say S U C C is done, it's pretty much the same isnt it ?

if he doesnt have shackles/row change you still get what you want like before

>>181601374
>if he doesnt have shackles/row change you still get what you want like before
That's true, but currently you can frightener to pull it back or remove the shackles and give him the succ. With the change if he's got another row change/lock he gets final say over being succed and you can't forcefully succ him which is a pretty big nerf to her.

Since they knocked her down a point they might try to cheap out on giving refunds but I hope not since I got one from a keg the other day. Not that it matters since I've already basically got all the scrap for all the cards anyway but I still have to maximize my jewiness.

i can finally play skellige without feling a piece of shit

>mfw the absolute state of monsters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHNMAy5Xd_k

>>181603935

You've already learned how to type like a tweenage girl without feeling like a piece of shit, so this should be easy for you.

>>181595078
I think it just hits for 5 if there are 5 units, no matter what.

If there are 6 units at strengths of 1,2,3,4,5,6, it'll hit them all but the 6 strength one.

>>181598326
Hey, at least mercs are kind of use-able now.

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>>181603935
>+1 bear, bear bug fix, -2 hjal
everyone wanted to see skellige getting hirosima treatment, instead they get a gentle poke
more importantly, cdpr decided to kill monster deck dedicated to fighting skellige cancer
looks like their internal research said that skellige is played by '''''''''''''''new'''''''''''''''''' players which means skellige is immune to any huge changes
you are piece of shit. because of you we can't have nice things.

>>181604356
>Gentle poke
>Undvik is the part that controls Hjalmar's buff, not Hjalmar
Hjalmar is kill anon, don't delude yourself. He arguably got a rump ruffling more vigorous than Kayran and Tibor did.

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>Stefan buffed
>Calviet only picks bronze now

Hey I just met you and this is crazy. But Impera Enforcer deck with Assire/Renew/Joachim is now effective maybe?

>>181604356
Wow, is people not realizing the huge nerf to the bear?
Not wounding summoned and spawned units is huge.

>>181589265
My stats after 155 hours of f2p Gwent:
>standard:
>bronze: 129/133, silver: 48/103, gold: 38/81
>premium:
>bronze: 19/133, silver: 2/103, gold: 0/81 ;_;
>spare cards: 185 - 2150 goy scrap worth + 1115 goy scrap in funds, 695 goy dust
Feel bretty fine, I can play almost netdeck for 2 different factions and craft for more if I want it.
I don't know about weebverse, but in comparison in Jewthstone after 150 hours you're maybe crafting your 3rd legendary

>>181604258
Nope, the guy next to burza said they all have to be the same strength.

>>181604767
Damn, that's fucking trash. Skellige Storm is pretty much the only usable weather now.

>>181604113
DONT alCHOOL

If the round ends before Morenn/Sapper flips, does their power get counted?

>>181606336
no

>>181606336
no

>>181606336
no

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I don't have the balls to search again
God help me

>>181606870
I believe in you anon. You can do it. You'll get those kegs!

>>181606870

Enjoy your 6 game losing streak.

>>181606917
you get kegs at 2250 no?

>>181607049
I don't even remember but I thought it was around there.

>>181604505
>Calviet only picks bronze now
and silvers you lying shit

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can somebody give me a rational explanation why they would nerf him ?

>>181607408

OPPRESIVE CARDS

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>>181606917
Thanks anon

>>181607000
You say this every time, it's only worked once

>>181607606
Oh, you're the dude that was wanting queensguard tips even though IIRC you're an absolute madman and went middle of the road instead of double mardrome. Glad you're still chugging along.

>>181607408
Design space

You have to limit what kind of golds you can design for NG if this fucker can pull them, eventually it'll catch up to them.

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>>181607739
if it aint broke don't fix it

>>181607408
>not even silvers
its dead jim

>>181607408

I think they thought they had to nerf him since the new golem timing is a buff to him.

>>181607827
fuck you, i cant do shit with this deck, every fucking time the game puts me with fucking perfect counter decks

>>181607827

I run a deck very similar to this. It's a lot of fun, but not very viable. I just use it to get my dailies in casual when I don't feel like queuing ranked.

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>>181608001
>Not still winning despite your opponent eating a queensguard with katakan and stealing a queensguard with succ and stealing Cerys with renew

>>181608001
>>181608125
Yeah honestly it's not very adaptable, if you're going to lose you can tell pretty early on in the match.
If you're not versing a counter and don't get a fucking terrible first hand, pretty easy to roll them.

When the new patch comes I'd like to try something new, been playing SK since I started. Would like to try ST or maybe NR. Anyone got a nice netdeck for me?

>>181608405

Honestly that deck is probably going to get better after the patch since the rest of SK got nerfed so hard. NR is solid, but it doesn't make sense to netdeck before the patch hits. If you really want to, just look for the Zerglings deck on gwentdb.

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>>181608348
>discard queensgaurds
>strengthen them to all heck
>enemy monster deck Caretaker's your most powerful QG
>renew the caretaker the next round and steal back your QG

Is there a better feeling?

>>181608605

>hjalmar gets shackled
>decoy him
>sigrdrifa him next round

Why us CDPR so intent of killing any sort of fun in Gwent? I don't even care about balance anymore, Gwent is getting dulled into boring shit with every patch. Fairness and muh skill are meaningless is the game feels like a chore. There's already so little drama and surprising synegries happening on board, and new patch will make around 30 cards completely obsolete.

>>181609828
>Why us CDPR so intent of killing any sort of fun in Gwent?
its getting more fun in every patch

>>181609828
fun is oppressing

There's literally no reason to play gwent anymore. If it's not axemen, it's consume monsters. What the fucks the point if you can't even have fun anymore?

>>181610706
How about git gud_____________________________

>>181610706
I've been shitting on consume monsters with my weatherless axeman deck.

>>181610706

NR demolishes consume already and will crush them even more after the patch

>>181610881
>>181610834
>>181610763

I didn't say I can't beat them, I said there's zero fun in playing against them.

>>181610706

Consume monsters is going to get destroyed by Ballistas.

>>181611032
How about playing different decks?

>My dandelion's 16 tempo swing is no more thanks to roach change
I wanna die.

>>181611737

NR doesn't really need Roach though. They already get so much tempo from pulling shit from the deck.

>>181611936
It was how I played
Thaler round 1 if they pass thinking I intend to pass I hit them with the 16 swing if they continue playing dun banner procs and I can continue to bleed them of cards.