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Damn Nuka Cola song stuck in my head again Edition

>Fallout 1 and 2
>General Information etc:
http://pastebin.com/mtYCtDLV

>Fallout 3 and New Vegas
>General Information, Mod Recommendations & Run Ideas etc:
http://pastebin.com/u29WKkGy

>Fallout 4
>General Information etc:
http://pastebin.com/pHrbuwt2
>Collection of Nexus Weapon Links:
https://pastebin.com/cmGEBGdc
http://pastebin.com/Gv5vnQi0

>/fog/ Asset and Mod Repository
>Mods & Rips etc:
http://pastebin.com/q5ryvSZc

>GUNetwork
>Rips (Primarily for NV):
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0B45SllNAhiQscHhxR28tZ1FwNTA

>How to Convert Skyrim / Oblivion / NV / FO3 etc. Models to FO4 & Bodyslide Guide:
http://pastebin.com/MWEPKj5m

Pre-War thread:>>181463069
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>>181551224


how do you play fallout?

one file and play it forever?
short burst of different characters with different playstyles?
something in between?
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3rd for Cait.
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>>181551464
2 characters at same time
balistic vs energy
bos vs railroad
melee tank vs stealth sniper
that kind of thing

keeps things tolerably varied and makes faction comparisons better
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>>181551464
Massive 300 hour playthroughs for 3 and NV (4 is shit)
50+ hour playthroughs for 1 and 2
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Hey lads, what's the best ENB for Fallout New Vegas for use during gameplay? Performance shouldn't be a problem, so just sheer looks whilst not being bad for target aquisition and gameplay because of 10 million lens flare effects.

Also I got Enhanced Wasteland and Pilgrim recommended for me when I asked this same question for FO4, are there any others aside from those two I can check out? Didn't really like the look of either too much and they didn't stress my system.
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>>181551170
>New Vegas 2
This better just be a way of saying Obsidian making another Fallout, otherwise no I don't want a continuation, I'd want a different location.
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>>181551464
Different characters in short burst because I get so bored that I stop playing and go play something else, then forget where or what I was doing and start over. I have not completed a single play through.
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>>181552647

people asking for NV 2 are the samefags who asks for skyrim 2

though the next game will be in akavir or Aldmeri dominion: Valenwood, Summerset Elsweyr Region
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>activating the protectron
>following it through the dungeon slowly
>rooting for it as it tries its best
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>>181553296
>people asking for NV 2 are the samefags who asks for skyrim 2
'no'
Skyrim is the worst Elder Scrolls game by far. NV is the best 3d fallout by far. So they are opposites.
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>>181552423
PRC preset with NAC is pretty nice ... if you can tweak away it making everything fucking dark as soon as you step indoors anywhere
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>>181553379
>set it to medical
>listen to it uncomfortably diagnose each corpse you leave behind
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I made a better poll.

https://www.strawpoll.me/13348897
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Repost form last thread:

What good overhauls are there for increased difficulty that aren't just infinite hitpoints for bad guys? Eg., needing to eat, sleep, people die when they get shot, etc.

I askled this question and got an asnwer a few threads ago but I forgot what it was and didn't write it down.
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>>181553296
Well that's just stupid

>>181553493
Doesn't matter a fucking sequel, especially set in the same area, forces a canon ending. If Obsidian makes another Fallout they need to put it elsewhere and not just stay in the Mojave.
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>>181554363
PNW fallout when
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>>181554260
there's no good way to balance it because of how character building works
even out the percentages and the player's perks tip things in their favor
desu the adrenaline system actually does an ok job of making the game challenging but manageable
maybe look for a mod that changes limb damages so headshots hurt more
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What mods will turn The Commonwealth into an unforgiving hellhole where suicide would be a better option than survival?
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>>181554363
>Doesn't matter a fucking sequel, especially set in the same area, forces a canon ending
>what is Fallout 2

Canon endings have happened many times before. They have even been confirmed by Fallout 4.
Anyway, I'd prefer a NV prequel, from the First Battle of the Hoover Dam, or when House retakes the strip.
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>>181554652
Arbitration and Better Locational Damage.
It works pretty well on survival.
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>>181554260
Arbitration changes combat and stealth ai

Loot overhaul makes the game stop throwing stimpacks and bullets at you

Better locational damage with staggers on for how it really feels to get hit by a single bullet you get hit with several more before you can react, and you fucking die
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Anyone else use the borderlands lines. Are they any good?

how do I set it up? I have reshade, but there's no cfg file to edit
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>>181554802
I found that loot overhaul just made half the containers empty and put junk items in containers that wouldnt make sense to have junk in, buit that was months ago, maybe its changed.

>stunlock with bullets
Now that sounds like premium grade not-fun to me, but a cool idea
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New Vegas sequel where Caesar's Legion is annexing NCR territory and you are a slave/NCR citizen that must choose whether to save Caesar's decaying empire as he is dying from his tumor again or overthrow it for good when
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>>181554968
>Not fun
It's fun as shit.
It makes automatic weapons good.
It makes it so you gotta watch your ass.
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>still no mod for red hunting cap

How am I supposed to live out my Holden Caufield fantasy?
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>>181555301

why not wear teh vanilla one?
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>>181553912
This is the true best hair

>>181554260
Horizon is a good overhaul, but requires some invetmenet into learning its systems.
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>>181554968
>>181555142
this, but i can see your point too. I recommend it for turbo-autism or immersion, not really for fun.
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>Fallout 4 is finally getting sex mods made but it's not far enough to justify a playthrough for them
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>>181555142
It sounds really cool but I know it would frustrate me, movement restriction is my least favourite thing in games (outside of being overencumbered). I'll try the other stuff though, and maybe give that mod a try. Maybe if automatic weapons weren't handed out liek fucking candy it could be fun.
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>>181554669
You have shit taste.
>>181555092
So do you.

How about something new, rather than treading over the same played out patch of sand ad infinitum.
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>>181555370
>Changing Nora in any way
>Giving her short hair
>Dressing her like an army dyke
You don't deserve to live.
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>>181555301
Wouldn't it be just grand if someone made that mod?
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>>181554669
That's what I'm getting at it's bullshit, I get it if it was an inevitable outcome but with the Mojave it was a little more up in the air, leaning in Legion favor. Personally I don't like anyone having their play through become useless because they picked the "wrong" faction.
It easily could be prequel but I'd prefer something different instead of a predetermined and same location slightly different filler.
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>>181555740
If you gave me a choice between Fallout 5 from Bethesda or Fallout: New Vegas 2 from Obsidian, I'd choose the latter. If you disagree, you are a Fallout 4 babby with exceptionally horrid taste.
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>>181555883
I agree, but a new location would be ruined by Bethesda, and I don't see Obsidian making a new Fallout any time soon.
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is there a way to to get wotc to spawn level appropriate enemies? right outside of sanctuary as I head out to concord are a sentry bot, assault on and at least 5 otehr powerful robots
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>>181555763
>not giving your Nora tactically short hair
>not dressing your Nora in combat apparel

I bet you're one of those fags that has her traveling the glowing sea with nothing but a dress
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>>181555740

>How about something new

How about "no"? I'd rather expand on great existing content and factions than have Obsidian or Bethesda (ESPECIALLY Bethesda) come up with new content and factions.

New Vegas is a great game but didn't have the send off it deserved. A New Vegas 2 would be a great opportunity for that.
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>>181555763
Do you all like my OC Nora (Ada)?
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>>181556257
looks like mikasa/10
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>>181556254
Not him, but I don't want new factions, I want the original Fallout 3 (set in Colorado/AZ, with Caesar's Legion)
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>>181556250
>I bet you're one of those fags that has her traveling the glowing sea with nothing but a dress
Of course not, she has a vault suit and that's all she'll ever wear.
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>>181556481
>AZ
It's Utah, sorry
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Finally got Cross's eyepatch to equip with glasses.
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72 hours is a cell reset, right?
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>>181556084
>Implying Bethesda wouldn't find a way to ruin an old location

>>181556254
The problem is we know how the New Vegas area ends, it doesn't matter who wins they all crumble except maybe a House controlled Vegas.

The Legion is designed to conquer and assimilate, the problem arises when they push into NCR territory it becomes exactly what the NCR was having trouble with, being stretched too thin. Once momentum starts to faulter, or Caeser kicks the bucket finally the Legion eats itself.

The NCR was stretched thin and being bled dry by House, if the Legion doesn't get them their own inability to stabilize themselves will, thus leading to a collapse.

House would do one thing, keep the immediate area safe and open for travelers, but he's going to hit hard times as the NCR crumbles. Hell if shit hits the fan the Families will probably stage an uprising and throw the hole region into chaos. The main way House could keep the are running is extend his spread of defense and start preparing for the inevitable, however he gives no real indication of caring about that. All he cares about is keeping the strip lit up and safe.
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>>181553493
Yeah but if they make a new vegas two then they have to make the blank slate courier have a canonical backstory and life, and they'd have to choose a canonical endings
Isn't that what you faggots liked about NV? The blank slate?
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>>181557304
Tho actually, fuck it, lets get an NV2 to invalidate all your NV playthroughs.
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>>181556649
As much as I like the Vault Suit, only leather armor looks good with it.
And using it stops making sense about halfway through the game.
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>>181557304
The problem is Obsidian already started filling in the Courier's backstory with Lonesome Road.

>>181557253
Which reminds me the whole area is fucked anyway because the tunnelers are going to move outwards and destroy the Mojave. Ulysses states this outright that they'll begin making their way there, Obsidian set the whole area up to eat itself one way or another.
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>>181556531
stop posting
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>>181555353
Vanilla one?

>>181555785
I wish
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>>181557641
nope, people like you make it even more of a pleasure to continue posting
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>>181557602
>LR
Barely. NV2 would require the entire courier's adventures to have canonical impact. Al the choices you thought you had? Nope. You'd boot up FNV again after playing it and feel like Nate, because none of your actions have any effect in the game world, there's a sequel which tells you exactly how it happened, and the rest was you pretending.
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>>181557784
>ywn have wrestling sex with Cait
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Stop ruining /v/ you inbred nvfags. Stay here in your fucking containment thread where you shitpost about jerking off to the legion with smeared ENB settings.
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>>181551778
>50+ hour playthroughs for 1 and 2
How is that even possible?
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>>181558205
do you think you have any influence at all in these matters

maybe apply for a janitor position next time they are open
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>>181557821
I know it was barely and that's the thing, they did inject a little of your backstory which I thought was silly to do in a game that had been a blank slate courier. The problem still stands that with LR the area is doomed no matter who wins or who you chose because the tunnelers are moving outward and none of the factions would be able to handle them because of the way they're designed.
Unless they plan on making it a game where you're somehow trying to race against the clock to get everyone together to maintain control of the area.

Anything they do in the area is so limited in scope and it's why they shouldn't go back.
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>>181555667
Skyrim is JUST getting to a great state for a full playthrough with plenty of sex options. Fallout 4 will never get to that state. Neither will SSE. Such is life homo~
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>>181558205
>ruining /v/
lel
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>>181558205
>/v/ is having other generals start popping up
>OMG FUCKING NV FAGS!

Like clockwork
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>>181558205
I almost feel bad for people who enjoy NV. Nobody wants them around but I can't blame them since they're usually spouting the same tired old bullshit. Maybe if they weren't so antagonistic people would better tolerate them but alas that'll never happen.
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Any good sexlab mods yet?

Only reason I haven't played in years.
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>>181558295
I already did actually they turned me down because I wouldn't suck off some inbred discord admin.
>>181558470
Actually it's been 4 days in a row now where NVfags have tried to force fallout gens on /v/.
But sure, stay delusional.
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>>181557253
>>Implying Bethesda wouldn't find a way to ruin an old location
I wasn't implying that at all. I would only trust Obsidian to work on an old location/
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>>181558234
Reading text and doing quests without walkthroughs, exploring, plenty of ways. Also if including restarts early on because EYECRITLOLOLOL.
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/fog/ what is your favorite build?
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>>181558556
>actually wants to do it for free
jesus you're more pathetic than I thought
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>>181558624

stealth archer
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>>181558720
Leave it up to the nvfags to not get what a joke is. Here's another you fag, look in the mirror.
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>>181557661
>I wish
>not calling me a phony
0/10
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>>181558556
do you have spurs that jingle jangle jingle?
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>>181558556
And there's not a goddamn thing you can do about it
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>>181558624
stealth knife guy
makes you have to actually plot out an attack plan
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>>181555667
Sucks because NV had them they didn't feel like you do a playthrough when them either.
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>>181558624
Energy Weapons
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>>181558624
Professional wrestler. Max charisma, melee and unarmed perks. Only use a folding chair.
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>>181558556
>Tried to force fallout gens
>Not New Vegas gens because they claim to be persecuted in /fog/

Stay retarded my man and deluded into thinking your own board isn't doing it as well.
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>>181557661
Something like this with a different texture?
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>>181558624
Pro-Wrestler build
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>>181558543
Gotten to the point of having pregnancy but still no bestiality so give it a bit longer
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>>181558624
Funnest I've had is Juggernaut build, running around doing nothing but punching things in power armor.
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>>181559757
Hey there big guy!
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>>181559757
You need a chair.
>>181559350
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Are we allowed to discuss wasteland here as well?

I really wish beth. hadn't taken the hump over NV being objectively better and fucked them a second obsidian fallout would be pretty based.
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>>181560042
>Replace the Mysterious Stranger with Randy Orton
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>>181560606
i would instantly download RKO OUT OF NOWHERE replacer for Mysterious Stranger
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what are the essential mods to make fallout 4 less shit
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>>181560017
I want to hug you :(
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>>181560606
Chris Benoit when
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>>181560923
super mutant hybrid cait
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>>181560857
>replace the guitar jingle with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIvFkO9WqQ0
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>>181561048
Dont forget to add Jim Ross, BY GAWD AN RKO!
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>>181560606
>>181560857
>>181561048
>>181561237
WATCH OUT, WATCH OUT, WATCH OUT!
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>>181552870
How does one play "different characters" in FO4?

I mean I guess if you have one male and one female, but goddamn the biggest issue I have with replaying FO4 isn't even the shit presentation on quests, their solutions, or the startling repetitiveness of the plotline in general... it's that I can't think of anyone but NATE or NORA when playing the character because then they all SOUND THE FUCKING SAME AND MY MIND IS LIKE "it's the same character as the other one". SHIT.

I'm fucking ranting because I'm sleep and food deprived but hopefully this makes some kind of goddamn sense and I'm adequately communicating my issue with doing more than a single playthrough of this fucking shitheap.
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>>181560923
https://pastebin.com/tjVXMmw6

I'll finish it soonâ„¢, I swear.
pls no bully
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>>181561430
this is going to sound mean
but think about how many times you start a sentence with "I"
and how it affects your tone

nobody want to read your blog friend
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>>181561430
At least you can make them look different. In the earlier games every player character looks exactly the same, even in-between games
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>>181561430
Mostly build, but that Start Me Up mod opens up a lot of possibilities since you can just be a random who in the vault or already out in the waste. I'll have to look but by now I'd think someone figured out how to get the PC to not say their lines.
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>>181561430
silent protagonist mod.
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>>181561749
Suck

myyyyyy


diiiiiiiiiiick
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>>181561427
I think a Stone Cold Stunner would be a better finishing move.
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>>181561979
grow up
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>>181562284
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Why doesn't my screenshot pick up on enb or reshade stuff?
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I can't believe it, but the nicer Marcy mod makes her tolerable.
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>>181562725
Nice, now we just need one that makes her husband grow a pair
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>>181551224
What's a good starting SPECIAL set-up on Fallout 4 for getting the most out of the early game as it's my first time playing through it (picked it up cheap in the summer sale and haven't replayed through New Vegas recently so I've forgotten most things related to what's good for SPECIAL stats).
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>>181563813
Doesn't matter because you can just put points into any special stat on level up.
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>>181563813
If you want easy mode, go 9 Strenght 9 Agilty and the rest to luck to get Idiot savat. Get Rooted + Blitz and Focus Fist weapons
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>>181563813
Enough charisma to get Local Leader 2 at 14, enough luck to get Idiot Savant at level 2 or 3. Enough strength to get Strong Back.
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>>181563813
all perception all charisma
the most useful skills
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>>181564071
>Enough charisma to get Local Leader 2 at 14
Why?
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>>181564234
you need it to build crafting stations
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>>181564234
So you can build crafting benches? Even if you don't do a lot of settlement shit its helpful to be able to craft without traveling too far.
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>>181564138
>charisma in FO4
>useful
maybe later on but not early game
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>>181564301
>not just using red rocket as a home place
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>>181564071
>enough luck to get Idiot Savant at level 2 or 3
And this too, are you joking, anon?

>>181564301
>build crafting stations
Why the fuck would I ever need to do that when the world is already full of them?
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>Fallout 4 came out almost 2 years ago

excuse my poor photoshop skills
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Kay my thoughts on Horizon so far arnt so bad, it focus you to build melee and I dont know if its cause I got gifted or what but my exp gains are abysmal
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>>181564540
I still haven't even pirated it. I'm quite proud I've abstained from that trash.
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Gave the worker's hut a nice big porch.
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>>181565927
>proud to not have played a game
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>>181566148
>hover platform has struts now
sellout
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Should I use truestorms along with NAC or just NAC?
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>>181564540
Time flies when you're having disappointment
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>>181566715
Just NAC it is, its own weather mod
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Why do Scorpions end up in the ground and inside rocks so much? This happens to them all the time, regardless of how many fresh installs I do over the years or which mods I use(if any).
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>>181567081
Cause everything that goes underground has a fucked up AI
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>>181565927
What are you gay?
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>>181567081
Because they like to teleport and pssh nothing personal kid you.
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>>181567407
I just enjoy spending my time playing good games, like Fallout New Vegas and Dies irae.
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What are some good Overhaul mods besides Horizon?
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>>181567794

these are a few
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>>181567794
see
>>181554802
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>>181568327
Oh man that one is great, did you ever try this one?
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>only way to make FO4 bearable is with full gameplay overhauls
>it's still just a lootin' shootin' farcry clone
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>>181568752
>
I'd like to respectfully disagree. As much as 4 is in need of some overhauling, I think that takes it too far an ends up sacrificing what's left of the game's immersion in favor of needless artificial difficulty. This is the one I personally use.
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>>181569335
I used to use that one as well. Too much overhang though and caused compatibility errors with some other mods I have
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>>181565927
I pirated both FO4 and Mass Effect Andromeda.
I accepted my shit taste but have just enough common sense left to not buy it.
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Defend this.
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So, how do these esm files work? If I place down those monitors from Dima's Synth Sex Palace, will I need to remember to check that DLC every time I load the esp to work on the cell? What if I want items from more than one DLC? Checking more than one esm gives an error message.
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>>181569552
Its not Fallout 3 and/ or shit.
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>>181569552
defend this
*grabs dick*
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>>181569552
Anon what are you talking about? The gamebryo engine is meticulously programmed with an immersive, bug free experience in mind
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>>181569757
>Anon please don't...
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People who have Immersive Gameplay Overhaul is it good?
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>>181557602
>The problem is Obsidian already started filling in the Courier's backstory with Lonesome Road.
We covered this two threads ago, LR was more about Ulysses than it was about the Courier. Any past attributed to the Courier is essentially hearsay and conjecture from Ulysses that can be accepted or disregard. At most it implies the Courier did atleast two previous jobs as a courier to Hopeville across a vague unspecified span of time.

>>181567081
Until I saw the replies to this, I wasn't sure in which game you were referring to, scorpions tweaking out into and under the ground is a tried and true staple of the 3D Fallout games.
>>181569552
Where is that? Would I find it in a NV run with YUP?
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>>181569661
Open the creationkit ini
Set bAllowMultipleMasterLoads=1

Don't ask me why this is originally set to 0.
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>>181570276
There is no why, anon. There's never any why when it comes to Bethesda. Thanks, though.
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>>181570096
I made that webm awhile ago but I think it was The Basincreek building and I had YUP. You aren't supposed to be able to get up to that landing though.
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>>181570096
>We covered this two threads ago
You mean you spouted your opinion and everyone else who bothered answering disagreed.
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>>181569552
>goes somewhere he isn't supposed to be able to go to
>finds out it's missing stuff

gee I wonder why that would happen. I wonder what would happen if you noclipped out of the world boundaries and walked around? Or noclip under the ground? Will I find more ground under the ground like irl?
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>>181569552
>>181570390
Would have been funny if the leveldesigner had set the door to be only accessible with a key to have people scramble for it for hours.
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>>181570096
>We covered this two threads ago

Oh you mean how you stated an opinion that no one in the conversation agreed with? Especially since just saying "no that wasn't me" does dick all since a man who has obsessed over your ever move would recognize the person this town built up around due to using it as a main route.
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>>181569832
NotTodd shilling for New Vegas
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How the fuck can you justify not siding with the institute after learning the director is your son? The only thing i can think of is you kill him before he gets a chance to speak to you.
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>>181571151
I don't give a shit about shaun in this poorrly structured shit story
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>>181571235
But your character does whether you want them to or not.
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>>181571151
"Wow, my son is a shithead"
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>>181571292
no my character doesn't because they let me choose options that say he doesn't

fuck you and fuck muh shaun
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>>181571151
The Institute is nothing but a bunch of fucktards who feel little to no responsibility for any of the problems they directly cause. Also fuck Shaun the fucking twist of him being older was obvious the moment you got frozen again and if he is the director by allowing people to continue being such shitty people he is just as bad.
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>>181571151
You barely knew your child and when you meet him you barely know him.
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>>181571391
>>181571325
I didn't actually know you could say that. Still seems dumb to do such a 180 like that but such are the pitfalls of the """""story""""" Bethesda made.
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>>181571151
Considering the hilarious incompetence and insanity going on in the Institute he needed to be put down humanly.
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>>181569849
yes
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>want to play as Nora
>Can't because Nate being en ex-solider is the only way I can justify being able to use power armor fresh out of the vault

they just dont care
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>>181571151
>son literally tells you he left you on ice for 60 years because why bother
>tells you he only let you out because he was curious how fast you'll die
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I wish there were more anime mods for New Vegas.
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>>181571749
just pretend the brotherhood of steel taught you
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>>181571749
JAG
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>>181572059
>just pretend
Why not forgo the game entirely and just sit in bed, close your eyes, and imagine something other than shit?
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>>181571749
All voiced lines about Nora being in the army as well are still in the game even, just locked.
They decided to make her a civilian at the last minute for unknown reasons.
If they would start with different stats it would have made sense, as in the lawyer being more charismatic or intelligent for example.
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>>181572171
why do you hate video games?
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>>181572106
>JAG has a power armor program
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>>181572171
you need help
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>>181572212
I don't hate video games, I hate Fallout 4.
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>>181572240
you're really stupid anon. I can't help you
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>>181572059
>>181572212
>>181572249
>just stop asking questions and go shoot something you nerd
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>>181572397
>all outta arguments
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I smell a spicy story in this thread.
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>>181572397
>It is reasonable to assume that military lawyers are trained in specialized equipment like power armor
Just like JAG's today are trained in how to fly planes and drive tanks right? Because the military isn't about specialization at all.
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>>181572582
there's nothing to argue if you don't know why someone who would be in the fallout universe's US JAG office would have had experience in power armor
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What keeps you going in Fallout 4? Because honestly, with in 1 hour of play time, 10 different things can piss me off so easily.
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>>181572795
>Just like JAG's today are trained in how to fly planes
Harmon Rabb was
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>>181572813
>i have an argument somewhere i swear :^)
Maybe you're alluding to the fact that JA's have to attend combat training.
Maybe you're actually so mentally challenged that you think every single soldier got power armor training.
In reality Power Armored soldiers where quite literally mechanized infantry and cavalry and thus highly specialized units.
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>>181573549
no, not every single one, but some could have, and nora could have been one for the sake of explaining why she can use power armor

it's just that easy, and now you can sleep at night knowing nora can use power armor
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>>181571151
This >>181571894
Shaun died 60 years ago at the same time Kellogg non-fatally shot my spouse.
When you get to the Institute, you meet a grown man who has no personal relationship to you.
A sociopath who excuses the Institute's immoral behavior and doesn't give one shit about you.

How the fuck can you justify siding with that fuckwit?
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>>181573768
So it just loops back to
>just pretend mate :^)
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>>181571749
>literally THE Vault Dweller could use power armor fresh out of the vault
>somehow Nora can't
ok
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>>181571749
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/16817/

>Removes some conditions so the female sole survivor is addressed as a war veteran, and unblocks her related dialogue.

>Also adds a small change to the terminal in Fraternal Post 115 (if playing as a female), removes all references of her being a lawyer, and adds slight changes to other dialogue you probably won't notice unless you start a new game.
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>>181573917
video games are pretend, yes
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>>181572710 My piper is better.
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>>181573954
anon, most of these people never played the original games
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>>181573954
>>181574192
>implying bethesda retconned pa training out of respect for the classics
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>>181574192
I'll admit it I never have, however they had the classic collection on sale for like $8 on steam and plan to play it after this NV run. Always played on console since it's the only thing I had to run games on, finally got a decent PC and making the switch.
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>>181574598
where was that implied?
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>>181574121
Best Piper coming through.
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>>181574598
I have no idea where you got that from
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>>181574840
Not even close.
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>>181573954
>Powerarmor so rare it has legendary status in FO1
>somehow commonwealth is littered with hundreds of them standing on well travelled roads untouched for 200 years
ok
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>>181574840
First thought that ran through my head was Michael Jackson looking at that picture.
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>>181574984
that was indeed a shit decision by Bethesda
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>>181574992
I'm glad I'm not the only one
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Should I buy Fallout 4 if I really don't care for Fo3 but love NV?
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>>181574963
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>>181574984
no one has the proper training to use them
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>>181575208
You'll be disappointed in the store, but as far as game play goes its great, there is currently a mod to rework New Vegas into Fallout 4 while another mod to bring back the Skills.

>>181575194
I mean seriously MJ probably looks like this now if not a little thinner.
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>bought F4 on release
>worried it might be bad but figured if it was I could wait for mods/sex mods
>it's bad
>mods don't fix my problems with it
>still enjoy the settlement building with mods
>sex mods are almost ready
my body is ready
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>>181573954
>>181574984
>>181575227
So is Powerarmor training still necessary in FO4 or not?
Because it's either retarded for Nora to have it
or retarded that nobody carried all the powerarmors standing around away.
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>>181575424
fallout 4 is ultimately a retarded game
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>>181575424
Nope.
Not only can Nora wear it, but followers can too.
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>>181575540
So could FO3 followers.
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>>181571151
the only winning strategy is not to play

shaun is a shitloaf running a destructive cult but killing/neutralizing him goes entirely against your character's motivations

the minutemen are an unruly mob that will work you endlessly then collapse on themselves, not worth killing your son for

the brotherhood is an equally destructive cult that forgo diplomacy and will order you to kill your son, not worth killing your son for

railroad will expect you sabotage everything your son holds dear because they really really like their realdolls, not worth blowing up the institute for

by the time you've met him your wife is avenged and your baby boy is secure, so just walk away
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>>181575629
Shit, I didn't even realize that. What about New Vegas other than Arcade and Veronica?
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>>181575404
>niggerrigged posemod with janky Skyrim animations
>almost ready
Without a proper scriptextender it will never go over the "ask Sex, get Sex, play singlestage animation" phase.
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>install reshade and get borderlands style shading
>install digital nightmare soundtrack
Fug it's suddenly a whole new game, damn. I should stream this.
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>>181575424
Nate taut Nora how to use power armor, thus how Shaun was procreated.
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>>181575767
Technically yes but considering almost all Power Armors are faction armors, companions like Boone will automatically not wear it because they don't belong to the faction. Boone wont wear a BOS armor because he's NCR.He wears a Enclave armor tho because it's factionless.
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>>181575424
No. Like I said neither did the Vault Dweller, so there's no big deal.

Most Power Armor in the world is either behind locks/hacks or in dangerous areas.
But I do believe there were too many frames around the commonwealth.
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Does anyone have a strong understanding of how reputation works in NV? I started a replay with JSawyer after not playing the game since it came out. Something I noticed in this run was that both Powder Gangers and Legion randoms weren't immediately hostile, which I don't remember being the case when I played vanilla.

I sided with Goodsprings and killed the legionnaires at the slave camp after Nipton, so I'm shunned by both parties, but their patrolmen still just say hello and walk on by -even in clear 'ambush' spots. Did reputation change with JSawyer or the DLC patches? I finished playing before any of the DLC came out.
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I think I broke Piper's fragile brain.
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>>181576391
Are you Vilified with the Legion? The powder gangers dont have much of patrols around the mojave.
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>>181576391
three stages both ways
at 0 everyone is cool
at -1/-2 they won't be immediately hostile but there's a lot of lockouts
at -3 it's open hostility
there are mixed ranks that can put you at -1 from +2 or +1 from -2 ect with unique titles
there's also a reset in the main quest for ncr and legion that lets your start fresh with them

wearing faction armor not only hides your rep but auto assigns hostilities
and in some cases lets your skip rep checks for quest qualification
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>>181576341
>there's no big deal
It is because Bethesda established that rule almost 10 years ago.Mainly because they felt it was necessary for balance.In the originals, Powerarmor was a lategame achievement.A mechanic to restrict the use wasn't necessary.
When bethesda designed the game in a way that you stumble across powerarmors without continuing along the mainquest the put a check in place that would only allow its use through the mainquest.

>>181576341
>Most Power Armor in the world is either behind locks/hacks or in dangerous areas
That's a blatant lie. Cae in point:Leave V111 and walk a straight line to covenant without any detours. You'll come across 3(!) Powerarmors along the way, the Concord PA not counting.One on top of a bridge, one LITERALLY IN THE MIDDLE OF A ROAD and one just below the waterline in the lake. Two of them are set to spawn with at least 4 armor pieces depending on your level.
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>>181576529
Why even go with skympy armors when you make the character intentionally unatractive idgi
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>>181577097
I only know of two along the way to Covenant, the one in the lake at Covenant, and the Concord PA. Also can you fight that Deathclaw before it comes up? I never tested if you were able to fight it before breaking through the road.
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>>181577097
don't forget there's a greaser faction that treats advanced military hardware like souped up rides
or the guards that tell you it's the only way to travel as if it were as common as carts
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>>181577528
Right.Now that you mention the Atom Cats,and considering the powerarmored Raiders, i guess they actually did retcon Powerarmor training away.
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>>181576714
Definitely 'Vilified' by the Legion, only 'Shunned' by the Powder Gangers. I realized I probably only directly killed one Powder Ganger during the Goodsprings fight. I also realized some of these Legion patrols may be scripted, especially on the way to Novac. I guess I'll just play more and things will normalize.
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>>181577376
>when you make your characters intentionally unattractive
Its literally default Nora with bangs and a little bit of face weathering.
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>>181575220
Is that a Gay-Jewish-Black Woman?
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what fallout critters are actually viable as mounts?

horses are long dead and practically erased from history.

brahmin very specifically won't move with someone on top of them.

what does that leave?
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>>181578465
Not technically mounts, but carts pulled by brahmin or big horners and maybe even radstags if you could tame them.
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>>181578465
>horses are long dead
So were Cats until FO4.

>what does that leave?
Robutts.
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>>181578465
>>181578870
>2287
>Not riding Reggie the Radscorpion into battle
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Alright, so I'm still early in the game and I'm experimenting with building settlements. Do the borders for the settlements ever widen? I barely have enough room to slap down prefab huts.
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>>181578870
>robots being used for transportation
preposterous

how would you make room for the boring teal chair
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>>181578465
Those giant shrimp thing in Far harbor?
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R8 this C8, M8s
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>>181578465
Cars, obviously.

>>181579554
>Do the borders for the settlements ever widen
No.There's also a limited building budget unless you unlock it through mods or console command.
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>>181579643
Looks like a failed FEV experiment
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>>181578465
Deathclaws m8
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>>181579643
No too bad if it weren't 50% forehead.Maybe try another haircut?
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>>181578465
Motorcycles
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>>181555740
>how about something new
>Fallout
>something new
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>>181579643
the arch of the eyebrow really brings out the clown makeup look on the nose and cheeks
and as always the more shit smeared on cait's face the better

8/10, 10 if you post her rotting in a ditch
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>>181579625
Turn your giant shrimp thing around so i can see its tits.
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is there a console command to build mama murphy's chair?

I have a mod messing with it and its not in the special tab on the workshop

I consoled it in but that wasn't good enough for her
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>>181579682
Alright, furthermore does anybody have some general tips for building outfitting settlements? The tutorials barely cover the basics and I know so little that I feel like I'm probably making a lot of rookie mistakes.
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>>181580040
What are you on about?Settlements are barebones easy.A settler sleeps in 1 bed, eats 1 food, drinks 1 water.So always equal that out.
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>>181580035
Open console
setstage MQ00MamaMurphy 55
close console
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>>181580040
Scavenging stations hardly do anything so you shouldn't bother unless you have a particular fondness of a 66% chance that three steel will be placed in the workshop per day.
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>>181580007

>>181579643
Need more sweetroll/10
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>>181580498
They also stop producing scrap altogether if the stored content goes above a certain threshold.
Scavenging stations are really only good for assigning a settler in full combatarmor and pretend he's a patrolling guard.
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>>181580639
I take it all back.Turn her around again.Then walk away.
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>>181579851
>The bigass lizards that move more erratically than a cat with a bag over its head
>Even if your abomination is a good boy that eases into movements, its entire back is covered in spines
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>>181580661
>not having settlement resource upcapper
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>>181580639
You wouldn't happen to know what mod adds your horse hammer, would you?
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>>181580968
No using bat junk in the console and stop caring about this autistic antfarm shit alltogether.
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>>181581119
>using console for anything other than screenshots and emergency unfucking
I bet you complain the game is boring too.
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>stuck in traffic on the way to work
>every minute is costing you hundreds due to inflation and the resource scarcity
>you chew a buzzbite as the molten coffee burns aways your tastebuds and the lining of your mouth
>every piece in the container stay exactly the right tempature to do this every time
>all of a sudden one of these little clown cars bumps into you from behind because the driver is busy on their wrist computer
>both of your cars erupt into nuclear fire before the paint even chips
maybe the wasteland isn't so bad
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>>181580384

tried it, she still complains about not having her chair
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>>181580871

>>181581041
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/17015/
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>>181581559
Thanks anon, you're the real deal
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>>181579614
Makes me wonder what the fallout games would be like on a non shit engine
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>>181581265
>building shitty little houses for hours so the 5 sameface settler presets can happily walk into the walls while repeating the same 6 lines
>fun
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>>181551224
So, while on the subject of Nuka-world, whose bright idea was it to balance the DLC with raiders with HP equal that of leveled deathclaws?
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>>181581713
>not using settlement mods
this kid
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any good mods for fallout 4 that add weapons similar to the "metro-made" weapons in metro 2033 & last light? just saw the metro exodus trailer and I really want weapons that look homemade, but actually LOOK like they were made by someone who understood weapons.
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>>181581850
crude blowback and handmade revolver
blowback is pulled directly from concept art as a much less hideous pipe gun
revolver is just about the only handgun you could actually tool without a proper manufacturing process
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>>181578465
Mirelurks, maybe? Guess it depends on their intelligence or ability to be trained.

Super mutants, the retarded versions.
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>>181581850
I wonder if it'd be possible to script a weapon to function like the Tihar and Helsing where you'd have to keep pumping the air tank
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>>181582361
>ywn climb into a behemoths shopping cart and take him for for a ride
why life etc etc
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>>181582082
thanks pardner, I remember those but never looked into them
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>>181575815
>ask
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>>181580914
>Not finding a nice comfortable spot between those spines, or finding a way to drug the Deathclaw and do some surgery to remove a couple spins.
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>>181583580
how do you like your ban?
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>>181583580
I modded it to hell and back, so much so that it is merely a shell of its original self. My enjoyment of the game is likely directly proportionate to the number of mods I'm running and the size of the anime tiddies of my SS. As I've morphed it to be? Its a decent timesink. A sneak-shootan trash collecting simulator where I gain experience and levels often enough that it triggers the dopamine in my brain to trick me into having fun.

Worse than FONV but better than FO3/10.
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>>181584415
No advertising
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>>181583580
source
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>>181583580
I'm honestly disappointed, the gunplay is a massive step up from FO3 and once you've got a bunch of mods it's a fun way to waste time, but so much of the RPG elements have been toned down and the world is so empty of content that isn't raider dens or posed skeletons that I get bored of the game so easily. I also have a lot of problems with the main quest, from a narrative perspective it's not very good at all.

Also you're just gonna post that and not give us a name?
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>>181584974
It's from /tesg/ trying to get trainwiz banned by saying they'll report him every time he posts for advertising.
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>>181585107

I went there earlier

They've fucking lost their minds

>We should make sure Nanosteam doesn't sell
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>>181585390
You fucking turncoat.
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>can't see shit
>there are exploding mole rats all around me
>to the north of me are swarm bots
>to the south I spotted a behemoth and I booked it right as the storm blew in
>I'm stuck on this rock
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>>181585390
He's supporting paid mods. Fuck him. And fuck you too you furfag autist.
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>>181585858
what the hell did you even do
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>>181586010

it's just a dust storm, it's also night time with darker nights set to darkest
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>>181585843

Its a game he's been working on for years.

I think it was something to the tune of a post post apocalyptic cyber+steampunk style world. Like it had steam stuff and cyber stuff integrated into one thing. I think one of the areas in his game was going to be a huge radioactive desert filled with destroyed trains. Or something like that.

/tesg/ thinking they can get the game to not sell because they disagree with him is fucking hilarious. He's got thousands of fans elsewhere. Sure, tons of games were "made" by 4chan like Minecraft, but Trainwiz's influence is all over the net now.
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>>181551224
Op didn't put up storyfags link, anyone got it?
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>>181586010

and like any good saboteur, the moment the storm ended I got them to fight each other
bets?

jolly green giant already killed 2 bots but this guy has the high ground
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>>181586261
>tfw bought trainwiz the automatron DLC when he was a broke nigga so he could make mods using it's assets because I think he's one of the few actually good modders that aren't complete asshats that think they should have their shoes polished by the tongues of everyone else
Honestly what the hell is wrong with people

>>181586463
OP also removed the steam guide link that has a ton of good mods and explanation on how to install mods/compatibility shit
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=752795517
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>>181586261
I need a rundown on the history of this, Babe.
I need to laugh.
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>>181586694

History of what? The gif? It was just something I thought was funny. I renamed it after a /tesg/ regular that it sort of looked like.
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>>181586857
The unbridled animosy for Trainwiz by /tesg/
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>>181586962

That isn't history, that's the present.

They're flipping out RIGHT NOW.
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>>181586261
>>181586857

both are staged
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>>181586261
There are trains everywhere.
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>>181587276

Still funny to watch though. I know that temper tantrum kid was staged too.
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So I gave up on Horizon, my new BoS Waifu.
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>>181587973
Eh.
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>>181588216
Gonna fix her hair back to the Jill Valentine look. This hairstyle clips like crazy.
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>>181588392
dat ban evasion tho
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>>181588392
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>>181586962
He left them because they're bad, so now they're mad.
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>>181587973
I like her just fine, anon.
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>>181586463
Had to go back two generals to get the link. http://m.imgur.com/a/iNUlq

These nv /v/ermin need to gtfo. They are trampling this place like they own it, when they only came here because their containment shithole finally booted them.
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with a little bit of cleaning up, she could be a real qt

or maybe its too dark and I can't see shit
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>>181589397
I like Talia. Too bad she's a Covenite.
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How did Bethseda go from New Vegas to Fallout "not an RPG" 4?
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I want to fill cait with my seed
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>>181589586


>art makes her look gorgeous
>in game she looks as good as a radroach

such a shame, I love redheads but she simply isn't tolerable
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>>181589873
I think she's cute
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>>181589586
Yes
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>>181586463
>>181586563
My bad, my /fog/.txt was outdated
I'll make sure it's on the next thread I make
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>>181589873

I don't think Cait is really that ugly. She's just dirty and has messy hair. I imagine she'd look a lot better if she was cleaned up more.
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>>181590168
Maybe she just needs a tan?
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>>181589978
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>>181590168
her face is off
big bushy eyebrows with a head too compact for them to be cute
eyes too big and small, thin lips
like a lizard

also something about curve of her chin is really unfeminine
and her fake accent makes any pity appreciation fly right out the window
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>>181590705
I don't think storyfag could make Cait likeable. He did the impossible and made me like piper, but Cait is a lost cause.
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I'm pretty happy I went with Cait over Piper. I lost Piper somewhere hundreds of hours ago in my game.

I guess I should see if Curie is any good. She's still a robot.
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>>181590705

Yeah the accent is kinda the reason I don't use her much.

I don't really find the Irish accent, especially coming from a Scottish person, to be something I'd want to hear all the time.
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>>181590849
Keep curie a robot! Robot love is pure!
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>>181590993

I'm gonna synth her up later

I might even make her synth Shaun's babysitter

I wonder if Creation Club will have semi-official "Create a synth" mod with less bugs than the Nexus version. Put that fancy pants character creator to work!
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>>181590849
Turn her into thicc!
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>>181589526
You have to be baiting since they were made by two different companies.
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>>181589978
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>>181591231
What about synth workshop?
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/16354/?

Also I'm the best at making ENB settings and NAC settings actual footage not edited
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>>181591231
>I might even make her synth Shaun's babysitter
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>This fucking thicc meme
Absolutely disgusting, there is a limit and thicc almost always crosses it.
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>>181591427
it's ok anon they're robots

consenting, mostly organic robots
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>>181591406
Holy shit
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Finally getting Cait
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>>181591406
Yeah, that's the buggy Nexus version he was talking about.
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>>181591739
I'd fuck this version of her too
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Y'all ever notice how much this fat fuck looks like Fred Flintstone?
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>>181591941
no
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>>181591941
no
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>>181591941
nein
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>>181591406

I've heard that its pretty buggy and sometimes your synths turn into radroaches inexplicably

>>181591427

Synth Shaun shouldn't be alone while Piper and I are out doing stuff. Codsworth could look after Shaun I guess, but he's just a robot and who knows if his programming is meant to be also for post apocalyptic environments. He could make some mistakes. Not to mention an actual person would be good for having someone he could relate to. If Shaun tried talking to Codsworth about his mom, would Codsworth try changing the subject and ask if he wants to play a game?

I imagine the SS puts up with Codsworth a little more because he's part of his original family, kinda
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>>181591513

When I make my synth Curie, I think I'm gonna put her all the way to the skinniest slider on the triangle

She seems like she'd be more petite to me. That would also make the tits way smaller too.
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>>181590993
That could be a good plan. She would be more useful in a threeway with me and Cait as a robot.
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>>181592405
>people liking Cait
When will this ride stop?
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>>181592321
>rail thin curie
>implying gaining the ability to eat and enjoy food wouldn't dive her to snack constantly
>implying the health expert wouldn't take care of the excess by honing her body for field work
the only possible conclusion is fit, thick curie
what else would you expect from robot efficiency
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>>181589290
just saw he updated it with pickman, did not expect that ending. anyone know when he will post more story?
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>>181592528
never, and it's great it makes you sick as a bonus
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>>181592756
I'd rather travel with Marcy fucking long then Cait, that's saying something. Cait is just plain unlikable.
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>>181591941
now I do, thanks
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>>181591941
Yabba dabba do fuck off please
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>>181592895
ok that's cool
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300 hours of playtime and I've never seen this glitch before
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>>181592664

She wouldn't be rail thin though

I just spawned her synth form to test this. I wouldn't put her in a bikini, but probably a lab coat. This is how she looks on the lowest weight.
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>>181593862
Neither have I.
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>>181593862
hurf derf
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>>181593956
>big tit Curie in an American flag bikini
So much winning
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>>181594023
The Cube has come for you. Submit and become part of the Cube.
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>>181593956
goddamn son
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>>181591406
Hotline New England
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>>181593956
don't forget the eyeglasses.
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>>181594023
Sorry for >>181593989
I did not realize your first image was assimilated into The Cube.
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>>181594419
>>181594584
>>181594930

The triangle makes a huge difference in how big certain aspects of my Cbbe preset are

Piper's more endowed because she's thicker on the triangle
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>>181594023
WARNING

INCOMING GAME

WARNING

INCOMING GAME
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>>181595187
>large
Every time
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>>181595187
those are some weird body proportions
but you do you buff
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>>181595386
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Anyone got a mod that makes it more green and lush? Kind of sick of the brown dead everything
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>>181585390
Picked a side yet you scale sucking faggot?
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>>181585656
Buff is a fucking tesg scumbag faggot you newfag fucktards
He came here for fo4, played a little NV and then started doing his same gay scaly waifushit
You faggots that accepted him need to kys
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>All of this drama
lmao
I'm just wondering where the BDF is.
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>>181595643
oh boy it's this faggot again.
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Caeser did literally nothing wrong.
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>>181595505
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/5810/?

Personally I like summer.
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>>181595417

Do you know of a mod that adds more sliders in the game? I kinda wanted to make her waist thicker but not touching anything else. And also adjust the boobs. Without messing with bodyslide or making a new body.

Dunno if its possible

>>181595529

I'll wait for CC to actually come out before I say anything else about it. You should too, my man.
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>>181585390
It's more the idea that they can change anything.
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>>181596106
nope, I only do vanilla my dude.
do you use looksmenu?
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>>181596106
You know that Looksmenu allows you to morph individual bodies in-game using the CBBE sliders right?
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Are there any mods that replaces the combat rifle and assault rifles to something less retarded looking?
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>>181596024
Oh boy it's buff scale legion of retarded autistic faggots
Go Jack off to his hideous characters faggot

>>181596106
I haven't said shit about it spastic, but I haven't been flip flopping all over the place
Dont act like youre not just another tesg reject faggot obsessed with waifus and poorly made videogame porn involving reptiles
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>>181596336
>Oh boy it's buff scale legion of retarded autistic faggots
Close but I spell Buffscale as one word and also mention circle-jerking.
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>>181596336
>Oh boy it's buff scale legion of retarded autistic faggots
>Go Jack off to his hideous characters faggot

just wondering when you are gonna break free of your delusional little bubble fantasy world

:^)
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Anyone have a link to the new vegas dlc .esm files?
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>>181596235
>>181596245

I only used Looksmenu once to make a preset of my Piper face to make it work for the mod of her face I made

I'll try that some day. Then again I haven't messed with waifu stuff in a while because I get all my vices these days from Honey Select. It clears my brain when playing FO4 to focus on gun and gameplay mods.
>>
>You will never cross the bridge of death again
Feels Bad Man
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>>181596547
post some more waifus so that faggot gets even more rump rustled
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>>181596547
>focus on gun and gameplay mods
speaking of which, automatron update when?
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>>181596547
>plays Fallout 4
>thinks his opinion is worth anything
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>>181551464
Big long playthroughs with a character. I've played fo4 for 1300 hours and I'm only on my second playthrough which is still going.

First playthrough was a big strong BoS superhero who was good with guns and wore armor and blew everything up that she didn't like.

My current playthrough is a more realistic human being (with the s.p.e.c.i.a.l.s to match) who sticks with the minutemen and doesn't like or doesn't know how to use most guns or armor or heavy weapons etc. She's mostly doing things by sneaking or talking, or when those aren't an option, hiding behind someone who is good at fighting.

I like being a completionist, and I like doing things to contribute to the whole map and seeing what I can do to improve the commonwealth over time.

>>181553912
Voted for either way.
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>>181596836
>obshitian

into the trash it goes
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>>181596836
Look, I like nv as much as the next man but you guys are making this place intolerable. Go back to /v/ you vermin.
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>>181596547
Kys
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>>181596836
>>181597005
you both need serious help
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Institute Mutants suck balls.
I am upset, yet glad they do not sprint like super niggers.
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>>181596745

I dunno, I still have some bugs I need to fix on the plasma caster mod. That damned jetpack is giving people issues on reloading saves. It keeps playing the jetpack sound and covering them in flames when reloading saves.

I'm partially waiting for CC to come out to see what it has right now.

>>181596694

Here's a pic of my old THICC port of the Chinese Stealth suit!
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>>181578870
Cats were only dead via NPC dialog.

And both Sawyer and Avellone said they never understood why cats HAD to be dead.

Horses were confirmed, via word of god, to be extinct.

Its by no means the same situation
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>>181560017
I like your hair lol
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>>181597058
I will go to /v/ when fo4 spastics go back to fucking tesg, waifushit faggots
Not even a NV faggot but fucking Christ 4 is shit and it's fans are mentally ill
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>>181597110
I see. but there's still no update for the release date right?

>>181597095
ghouls stole the muties super speed
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>>181597183
the fresh smell of summer
here's a free (you) for you anon
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>>181597340
Kys vedditor
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>>181597170
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>>181597261
Why though?
They should fall apart at those speeds. They should be far too deteriorated for that shit.
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>>181597183
This place was fine up until a couple of days ago when you faggots got booted out of /v/. I don't know if I should be amazed or saddened that it only took you a couple of days to shit this place up even more.

No one thinks 4 is better then nv. You don't have to keep beating this dead horse.
>>
GUIZE

How do I do the fast dash to the side like the raiders do when they charge you?
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>>181597441
>No one thinks 4 is better then nv.
Not him, but plenty of people do, even Avellone said Nv was worse then Fallout 2, and that Fallout 2 was worse then Fallout 1, and that Fallout 3 and 4 d a lot better then Fo2 and NV.
>>
>>181597340
>>181597441
did you guys saw that one guy that was spamming thread with "h-hey you guys! You're breaking the rules! stay on topic! no lewd posting this is a blue board!"?
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>>181597441
This place was better a few years ago you fucking newfag spastic cunt
This general has just gotten worse and worse ever since they announced fo4 at E3
Kys you mentally challenged fucktard
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>>181597517
This shit is cancer worse then console war baiting, for the love of god stop this shit.
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>>181597261

I haven't even touched FO4 in a while

Tbh I'd like to see other modders start doing stuff. I'm hoping Creation Club really ups the ante on stuff like Automatron. There's not much there on Nexus. I know how to do the robot outfits but I get tired of doing it. I spend waaaay more time in OS and the CK than playing.

I wanna sit back and relax and enjoy someone else's stuff, and im hoping since Bethesda is making assets for CC, they could make some really cool shit.
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>>181597538
Yeah, yesterday or the day before. Like I said, since the nv fags got kicked from /v/ this place has been going downhill quick. Go back a week ago and aside from people hating caitfag this place was peaceful.
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>>181597659
>There's not much there on Nexus.
No shit.

Modders are fucking lazy, and have just been remaking the same fucking mods since Morrowind, and Bethesda added most of those mods as offical content either in the base game, or the DLC.

When given the choice of doing something new, or giving up, modders have shown they prefer the latter
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>>181597659
Yeah you should have a break (maybe permanently) from modding, don't wanna outshine all those other modders too much do you buff
Have you thought about straight up killing yourself?
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>>181597809
kek
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>>181597423
makes for good gameplay
it's not like they ever made sense in the first place

>>181597538
sure. this show happens every day at this hour. some shitter(s) comes in with obvious bait, fog eats it up, storyfag used to posts some shit to stay in topic, some time later the shitters leave, the thread proceeds as usual until the next day, where the cycle continues.
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>>181597441

Oh, /v/ is here

That explains why suddenly thread quality plummeted. The mods should just let them have their safe space on /v/ already. I think one of them just likes watching the shitposting on /vg/ whenever he does that shit.
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>>181597754
You're on the fucking fast track to tesg 2.0 you delusional fucking wankers, this circle jerk shit hole has got to stop, I'd take the days of never ending 3 Vs NV shit flinging over this trash
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>>181597517
It plays better but has worse RPG elements.
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>>181597872
Oh look /tesg/ is here
>>
>Thread Quality
>Willful Ignorance
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>>181597919
>this circle jerk shit hole has got to stop
you are powerless to stop anything

>I'd take the days of never ending 3 Vs NV shit flinging over this trash
no, you'll take this or fuck off because no one gives a fuck what you want you cum guzzling turbo faggot
>>
>>181597659
Personally I hope the inauguration of the Creation Club will spell a slow death for all of Bethesda's games as they (Beth) get lazier and lazier with their games until nobody will swallow their bullshit anymore (it's pretty close to that point now, actually).

Then, to deliver the coup-de-grace, all the plagiarized and trademarked material holders all sue Beth at once and pick their bones clean.

I'm neither a huge fan of Bethesda nor do I hate it on a gut level, but lazy products I will not tolerate and the CC is just an extension of the fatties sitting in the boardrooms at Bethesda loosening up their belt another notch.
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>>181597872
Yeah nv threads on v started to get the boot three or four days ago, now the cancer is flooding us. They act like they are persecuted in here because they like nv, not because they act like massive faggots to everyone else.

>>181597919
Again go back a week ago, we were fine here without you faggots. No one wants you here, go back to your hug box on v you /v/ermin.
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Man...
This place is constantly under siege.
I wish everyone would just fuck off to their own place.
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>>181598070
Kys you cock worshiping fucktard, go ram a fucking horse cock up your ass till you die of internal bleeding you faggot
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>>181598190
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I miss drink bleach-fag.
His was truly a divine calling.
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>>181598190
Don't cut yourself with that edge.
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>>181597869
I'm still here, I just have a wonky work schedule. I work 7 days on 7 days off, 12 hour shifts each day I work. I am off starting Wednesday morning through, so Wednesday night I should be able to get back to story telling.

Also, I know no one has to listen to me but I wish we wouldn't rip each other apart fog. I love this place and it breaks my heart to see us devour each other like this.
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>>181598127
I'd rather go back 2 years ago when none of you newfag fucks are here
I find it funny you're all talking about /v/ now, but when E3 happened and the game was first announced, the same time this shit hole started getting even worse, the /v/ exodus came in and wouldn't shut the fuck up
/v/ hasn't left for a long time you fucking morons, and being a NV cocksucker and a /v/ cocksucker are not mutually exclusive
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>>181598000
Its only worse of a pretened simulator then NV was.

As an actual RPG, its far better, because in Fallout 2 you actually play a ROLE, more similar to that of characters from Fallout 1 and 2, rather then the basically blank slate of NV
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>>181598190
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>>181598342
>we wouldn't rip each other apart fog
I don't know what you're talking about.
if you're really here as much as you say you are it should be clear that this is people who only come to the thread at this time to start shit, then leave
the rest of the day is usually pretty chill
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>>181598281
Try not to internally bleed to death from being fucked so hard faggot
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>>181597408
yeah, lol. I chuckled.

>>181592756
Aw, that makes me feel bad. Everyone has their preferences. People not liking Cait is fine with me. I don't gush about her to annoy people, despite what some mean people like to portray me as doing.

>>181598249
thinking.jpg
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>>181598441
>4chan browsing extension
>being this assmad as to actually filter someone

>>181598506
kys
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>>181598110
>Personally I hope the inauguration of the Creation Club will spell a slow death for all of Bethesda's games as they (Beth) get lazier and lazier with their games until nobody will swallow their bullshit anymore (it's pretty close to that point now, actually).
I don't see how anyone can say BEthesda are lazy when they have added more new features in their games then most game series get in their entire run.

The entire idea that Bethesda does nothing becuase they know modders will do it for them is undermined by the fact that BEthesda preempted all the modders when making Fallout 4, and added their own version of basically every major mod from Fallout 3 and NV into the game as offical content, when they could have very easily just let modders make them again.
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>>181598506
Kys, no one cares what you think
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>>181598580
>not having 4chanx
summerfag
>filtering someone that is anonymous
can't be done summerfag, just hiding the post
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>>181598435
I'm talking about 4 vs NV. 4 plays better.
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>>181598462
Night is when I'm most active, and I know that most of this is baiting but it works as this thread is evidence. Like I said, I just don't like us doing this to ourselves. I hope everyone in fog can unwind and enjoy the rest of their night.
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>>181598482
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>>181598583
Bethesda didn't add civilization in fo4, because fuck making towns and shit when the player can just make with their shitty editing tools
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>>181598679
So was I
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>>181598583
The idea that modders do it for them with CC doesn't work when according to trainwiz they make some of the things themselves and also make assets for the modders' projects
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>>181598663
>getting this upset over words
You have to go back
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>>181598680
it works because the thread is slow as fuck and responding to bait is easy
you get to experience the worst I guess
gj on pickman tho
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>>181597872
>>181597659
You're a modder? What sort of mods do you make? I hang in the /v/ threads but I don't have problems with you guys.
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>>181598730
>Bethesda didn't add civilization in fo4
Why on earth would they?

Fallout has always been about the frontier beyond civilization, and not civilization itself.

Even in Fallout 2, Shady Sands was just some fucking adobe buildings inhabited by people playing pretend country.

And New Vegas only exists because some pre-war fgt with a decent sized robot horde rebuilt the Strip in a matter of days, then held everyone at gunpoint to cosplay for him, to mimic civilization
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>>181598823
You have to go back to /v/ where they post 300 kek images over a watermelon loss edit.
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>>181598868
Doesn't mean it's not civilization you fucking retard
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lol i fucking baited everyone in this thread.

Get owned retards.
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>>181598583
Maybe if you took into account that vast amounts of longstanding bugs and issues that are never fixed and the short period of support offered to address issues in a product after launch? See settlers, 1st/3rd person animation errors and bugs thereof, invincible enemies, spotlights that go dark and stop swiveling, etc.etc the list literally goes on and on

Incorporating mods that were made for free by fans from previous games is hardly work, because it's already been done for you. Takes no real brainpower. Fixing their broken shit, however, is resource consuming which they just are not willing to dedicate.

This isn't up for dispute. Bethesda just don't fucking care and any argument to the contrary can be easily, verifiably proven wrong.
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>>181599001
Except it is, by its very definition, not civlization
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>>181599017
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>>181599056
Go on then, show me the definitions for civilization and how it does not equate to that
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>>181598998
>>getting this upset over words
You have to go back
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>>181599106
Are you a girl irl?
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>>181598823
>>181599132

showing your true retardation, i'm proud of you, it takes guts.
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>>181598827
Thanks, I was worried my handling of it wouldn't be liked. I don't hear much about pickman, so I don't know if people like him or not as a character, so turning him into a villain for the protagonist of the story was kind of chancy.

I hope you guys enjoy where I take the story next :)
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>>181599208
>getting this upset over words
You have to go back
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>>181599051
>See settlers
never had a problem with them.

>1st/3rd person animation errors and bugs thereo
Never had a problem with those either.

> invincible enemies
Never ran into one

>spotlights that go dark and stop swiveling
a bug, but a minor one.

>This isn't up for dispute. Bethesda just don't fucking care and any argument to the contrary can be easily, verifiably proven wrong.
Except it cant, all one has to do is look at any other game of compatible size, mainly, MMORPGs, which are all notorious for having tons of bugs, even launch day bugs, years after release, desire getting constant stream of money and players, and tons of patches.

It is simply impossible, no matter how much time you put into it, to fix a game like this, especially when you are beholden to development schedules, and budget.

This has nothing to do with laziness, and any argument that it does is demonstrably wrong, as evidenced by all of game history.
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Is three bottles of grey goose for 20 dollars a bottle good deal?

Also jameson black barrel for 20 dollars a bottle.
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>>181598730
I mean, in terms of Fallout 4's main theme of trying to rebuild your home it makes sense, but just like that theme, it doesn't go far enough. It comes down to being decorative, and you can't really get resources or alternate ways to play via the settlement system. Sim Settlement is so much better in that regard.
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>>181598829

I do model rigging, mostly. Also I have a general understanding of how guns and gun mods work, and how to make the models for them work.

I usually port outfits, or rig other people's models for them, or sometimes I do mashups / give robots atomic titties for shits n giggles. Just whatever. Oh, and I'm one of like three or four people on the Nexus that do custom creatures. I've tried to share my knowledge with the modding community as best I can to get more mods out. My tutorials have helped a few people out based on feedback I've seen in my Nexus inbox, so at least that's something.
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>>181599249
If you reload then change view the animation and reload will never finish as long as you swap from 1st to 3rd and visa versa
But naw, I'm sure you've noticed no animation errors due to camera
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>>181599287
>Is three bottles of grey goose for 20 dollars a bottle good deal?
If it was three bottles for 20 yes. But 20 bucks per bottle is the average price.
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>>181599369
It must be so lonely.
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>>181599310
I just wish they didn't focus so much on the settlements. It's obvious they didn't set up so many box towns because they wanted the player to shoulder the brunt of it by making their own.

I hate sims shit, and while I could make my own towns none of the npcs in it would have any soul.
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>>181599310
>Fallout 4
>themes
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>>181599310
The Devs have the resources to make a town that's actually intriguing, interesting and unique
They don't give a fuck though, diamond city is pure shit, everywhere else is barely a town and is usually just an awful settlement spot (which also happens to be an awful spot for a settlement)
I would have liked 2-3 well built up, unique and interesting towns rather than some patching issue plagued shitholes filled with "settler"
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>>181599369
I wish more people did custom creatures.
I want more mutated monsters and creature variety.
Your Gammaclaws are mainly Deathclaws, but them being fucking radiation Satans really makes them their own thing.
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>>181599383
Thats pretty common in a lot of games because most people dont randomly change view in the middle of reloading
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>>181598506
>If being goaded into defending Cait wasn't a fun shitposting past time that I enjoy as much as anyone then I wouldn't do it.

Yeah you totally don't shitpost because it's fun Caitfag, you do know people can go back and see the thread where you admitted this right? >>181244432
inb4 that totally wasn't me
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>>181599249
Invincible enemies can be reliably reproduced when you force change an enemy's state (i.e. through staggering or freezing) while they are performing special animations.

Also, try performing a sneak power takedown on a weak raider that is leaning over a railing. You do the special kill-move and they take NO DAMAGE.

Shit, the fact that you don't think these are issues or have never encountered them literally means that you don't ever pay attention and/or haven't actually put time into the game.
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>>181599587
Except the previous fallout games where it is not a thing?
Fuck off, the bug is shit and retarded, much like Bethesda clearly
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>>181599539
I mean that, that's been outright stated and pretty obvious that that is the central theme: rebuilding after a tragedy. The problem is that the tragedy is ineffective and the rebuilding is ineffective. We're not engrossed enough in the prewar world for its post-apocalyptic version to have any weight, same with our spouse being shot by a cereal man and having our animated shield that we pretend is a baby stolen from us, because there's not enough build up to it and the existing build up is ineffective. Then while you can rebuild settlements, nothing really happens past that, and your efforts and choices aren't particularly acknowledged (which matters most in an RPG really).
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>>181599369
That's really cool. Some people talk shit on you in /v/ but I don't see why now. I appreciate people like you trying to make the game better. I don't know if a Midna mod would make me want to pirate Fallout 4, but you did a good job on it. Props.
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>>181599634
Or that they don't use stagger/freezing effect weapons or power vats takedowns? Three specific things in a game like fallout 4 isn't that hard to believe someone hasn't reproduced this on their own.
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>>181599727
>We're not engrossed enough in the prewar world for its post-apocalyptic version to have any weight
This isn't a valid argument.

One does not have to be engrossed with Fallout's pre-war world to not feel anything for wanting to rebuild the post-war world, as, unless you emotionally retarded, one can easily relate to how they would feel if the real world suffered the same fate..... which was the ultimate point.
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>>181599764
People talk shit about because he's from tesg and is a scaly, a full on flat out scaly
Not like /v/ is much better, how about both you and buff fuck off there
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>>181599727
Truth. Spending five minutes with my wife and son made me feel nothing when cornflakes killed her and stole him. The whole story is just forcing me to care about a kid I have no emotional investment in the slightest.
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>>181599782
>don't use things that have been designed to be a part of the game
>clearly I don't think it's a problem that these mechanics issues were never addressed

It's clear to me now that you are a Bethesda apologist and will lick Todd's crusty smegma before admitting that they obviously skimped on QA.
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>>181599901
When's the leukemia going to get him?
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>>181599934
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>>181599978
I'm not saying that you tard. I'm saying you can't say the guy hasn't played it enough to find the bugs on three specific things, two of which are legendary mods which are random and another is a play style that not everyone plays because some don't find it enjoyable.

Get off your crusade horse and read what people type to you.
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>>181599591
No, that was me. But you didn't get what I meant. Everything I say is a shitpost. 90% of the posts here are shitposts. That's part of the nature of the website. This is a shitpost. I'm responding to a shitpost right now.

Every time I post something, I say "I'm gonna go shitpost", even if my intention is to not shitpost. It's hard to explain this in words to someone, since it's just something people do all the time.

Its like saying "yeah I'm gonna go crash my car" even if your intention is to get home safely ad you're a good driver who has never had an accident. People just self-deprecate as a joke a lot.

People don't usually have to explain this. No offense.
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>>181599881
It very well is. There's no personal investment there, and post-apocalyptic landscapes are common enough in media that simply seeing a destroyed overpass or city isn't going to have the same impact on like someone coming fresh out of World War 1. Nobody gave a shit about Nora or Shawn or the pre-war. The most I ever felt for that old setting was meeting the Vault Tec salesman.
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>>181600154
You sound like an autistic wretch of a human, kys
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>>181592146

>If Shaun tried talking to Codsworth about his mom, would Codsworth try changing the subject and ask if he wants to play a game?

yes, yes he would. he does exactly this at the beginning of the game when your character is distraught, he tries to distract your by preparing a snack for you.
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>>181599881
>one can easily relate to how they would feel if the real world suffered the same fate..... which was the ultimate point.
If that was the ultimate point there would be no point in showing the pre-war world.
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>>181600154
poor thing, it's retarded.
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>>181600078
So the leukemia got him then?
RIP
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>>181600252
>>181600361
I don't deny that anon, and your words do hurt.

I'm pretty autistic and not very clever, I know these things already.

It's funny all this sprang from just talking about waifus. Maybe we should take a step back and think about what we're upset over.
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>>181600108
I mistook you for the original Beth defender, apologies.

In any case, neither freezing nor staggering are exclusive to legendary affixes. Cryogenic grenades are a thing, as is the Cryolator. Staggering is found on, among other things, explosives, heavy weapons, the Commando Perk, etc.

SO MANY people have reported invincible enemies (bloodbugs are common, because the chest stab is a special animation that often gets interrupted) that, like I said, you can really only miss if you don't pay attention or don't actually invest time into the game.
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>>181600549
Autistic and dumb, you might as well kys tbqh
See you on the other side moron
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>>181600272

I think General Atomics could have done a better job for those robots after something traumatic like that happens.

I mean...people die. He only tries consoling you if he actually SEES her dead body. His concept of time also seemed sort of messed up. Wouldn't he assume past 70-80 years that you'd be dead, and then go crazy, or wander the wasteland looking for families that need a robot butler?
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>>181600549
>Maybe we should take a step back and think about what we're upset over.
Classic projecting.
Just because I want you to stop breathing doesn't mean I hate you.
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>>181600549
>we're upset over.
>we're
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>>181600615
Why do you use a trip?
Are you just an attentionwhore?
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>>181600713
yes, and you're feeding him right now with all those delicious (You)'s
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>>181600713
He was asked to use one years ago so people could filter him
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>>181600615
that's just companion behaviour though.
he tries cheering you up, looking for shaun etc
he even breaks down when you ask him if hes ok
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>>181600615
>Wouldn't he assume past 70-80 years that you'd be dead, and then go crazy, or wander the wasteland looking for families that need a robot butler?

he did assume you were dead but his programming stated what his job was and his job was to tend to the home of Nora and Nate

I assume that if the home were destroyed he simply shut down
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>>181600775
I'd like him to answer, but I doubt he will
He doesn't like it when people ask him why he does the autistic stupid shit he does, or at least he seems unwilling to reply
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>>181600672
>>181600662
I'm not upset. I just mean we're all in this together. You guys have a lot of vitriol but if you think back, what is the cause? If I died after pressing the submit button on this post, why would that make you happy?
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>>181600879

Or I don't answer because I've answered it hundreds of times

I use it so people can filter.
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>>181600154
>I don't gush about Cait to annoy people
>Everything I post is a shitpost

Jesus you really are retarded
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>>181600879
because ignoring assblasted retards like you is the correct response.
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>>181600879
he was asked to so anons could filter him

how new are you
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>>181601008
Why did you change it then?
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>>181600994
whatever you say there, shitpost. :^)
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>>181600994
Kys
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>>181601032
>Buffscale phone-posting
TOP KEK

>>181600994
>I just mean we're all in this together
??????
>If I died after pressing the submit button on this post, why would that make you happy?
I mean, if I had actual physical proof that you had some how died, I might have a giggle.
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>>181601198
>being this delusional with self-importance that he would go out of his way to reply to you via phone.


HAHahahahahaaaaaaa you faggots are too fucking funny.
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>>181600994
Because I wouldn't have to read the stupid shit you post every day, also conversations like this would clog up the general. There's been a way to fix this for a while, get a trip and everyone can be happy but let's be honest you just so this for the attention.
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>>181601053

Its the same code. Filter the code.

The fact that I have to point this out really tells me a lot about your intelligence.
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This is a fucking Full Scale Invasion.
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>>181601198
We're all in this together because I do care what you think, and I'm trying to learn and compromise. If I was really the devil you portray me as, I would literally ignore you and do what I want.

>>181601139
>>181601179
guys I'm trying...
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>>181601328
>being this delusional with self-importance that he would go out of his way to reply to you via phone.
>Reply to me
>Reply
>to
>me
Speaking of delusions. Take a knee my son.
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>>181601198
>>181601328
I don't think he even have a mobile phone
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What kind of AA do you guys use?
TAA?
SMAA?
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>>181601342
>but let's be honest you just so this for the attention.

this.

pretty sad really
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>Coming over to FO4 from skyrim

What the absolute fuck are these controls?
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>>181601382
right? seems busier than usual
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>>181601359
Not really buff, I didn't memorize your trip code, I was asking why you changed
Why did you change your name?
Tone down on the scaly shit, don't want that fetish stuff rising to the surface? Just fancied a change?
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>>181601415
FXAA
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>>181601383
Once again as stated here >>181601342 if you really meant any of that you'd get a trip so people can filter you.
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>>181600297
Not really, by that logic, oine would not have to show the shire in Lord of the Rings to give Frodo's quest weight, yet it was, and it was also shown only for the most brief part needed to establish it as a place because its not REALLY important.
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>>181601471
I have no idea what you're talking about. unless you use a controller, in which case good luck
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>>181601396
make sense, you fucking dimwit
i know it's reaaallllllly hard, but try at least.
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>>181601509
It's busy for all the wrong reasons it seems...
I just wanna spend my night not dealing with bullshit.
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>>181601383
>because I do care what you think
>I'm trying to learn and compromise
Where the fuck do you think you are lmao

>If I was really the devil you portray me as
Mighty high of an opinion of yourself
>I would literally ignore you and do what I want
This is hilarious.

>>181601414
>tfw Buffscale good boy points aren't transferable for mummy's good boy points
Sad
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>>181601604
>and it was also shown only for the most brief part needed to establish it as a place because its not REALLY important.
Except we spent a good long time in the shire, both in the books and in the first movies.
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>>181601516

It was a Seinfeld joke

I mostly do ports

So I'm a model importer / exporter

Vandelay

But I'm not a latex salesman
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>tfw no Ada romance option
Robots are cold but the world is colder
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>>181601612
Yeah, controller

Default controls make absolutely no sense.

Is there a better UI mod out there?
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>>181601716
Prefer Seinfeld to lizard cock at the moment?
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>>181601740
oh boy here we go
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>>181601626
Hello Kettle.
Buffscale wasn't replying to me

dimwit
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>>181601629
traffic always increases due to bait reasons at these hours, but today it seems especially bad.

>>181601770
DEF_UI (actually DEF_INV is what you want)
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>>181601821
and you are a different anon? gee who would have known.
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First time in NV. Havent really done sidequests. Made it to the strip and spoke to House hoping itll make Victor stop following me. Haven't sided with anyone officially though i did shoot up the Tops and Luxe because Bethesda didn't provide an option to leave if you don't want to deal with giving up ur guns. Bennys dead. I got the chip and found the yesman.
So far everyone seems like jerks and i dont care for ruling the desert.
Can i give the chip to BoS, or toss it into a volcano or something?
I'm more interested in escorting EDE to Navarro than whatever is coming up at the dam.
I've already had my vengeance. Feel kinda hollow.
How bad would it be just to give it to House and focus only on sidequests?
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>>181601869
>If its not what I think it's bait
>If it doesn't coalign with the circle jerk it is bait
Hello /tesg/
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>>181601937
>gee who would have known
A quick screenshot of the webpage that would have been labelled photoshop
Too bad :^)
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>>181601415
The only 2 options that the launcher gives me are FXAA (performance) and TAA (quality). I use the latter.

I don't try to fuck with the game by forcing it to run something else through my Nvidia control panel
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>>181601761

I still remember that guy's comic about Piper being pregnant with his child

Piper looked completely unhinged during the entire thing
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>>181601592
>>181601342
Fine. I've hung out on this website since high school and managed to never use a name or a trip because I think it's dumb but if it's the solution you suggest then sure, I'll use a name.

I apologize for being annoying. Sometimes it's hard for me to figure stuff like this out. Hopefully this makes people happy.

>>181601657
trust me, I don't have a high opinion of myself. That's a common phrase.
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>>181601937
Not you clearly you dumb fucking cunt
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>Go into ancient locked pre-war building
>Nobody has been in there since before the bombs
>Somehow there's primitive shit like pipe weapons all over the place
Jesus Bethesda how do they let this kind of thing slip through the cracks
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>>181602061
clearly not anyone you dumb fucking cunt.
:^)
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>>181601509
>>181601629
>>181601869
>Not bullshit if we're jerking Buffscale's dick
>Not bullshit when Buffscale is shitting up the thread with faggotry, furfaggotry, pedophilia or any le totally randumb epic ecks dee posts
Cowboy Kek
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>>181602004
Hey buff answer me, do you prefer Seinfeld or the reproductive organs of chameleons more?
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>>181602004
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>trying to build hangman alley into a sprawling, claustrophobic, kowloon-city style slum
>having to do it half a story at a time with pencils and chessboards and the occasional wood shipment
I finally find something I find fun about the settlement system and I'm still thwarted
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>>181602153

>>181602035
>trust me
lol
>I don't have a high opinion of myself
Have you tried self-harming?
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>>181602153
Take a bit of your own advice and try forming a sensical sentence next time you cock gobbling retard
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>>181551464
i'm playing fallout 4 semi-blind on survival. i didn't plan on using power armor at all, but since the game threw fusion cores at me like a super mutant launches missiles, i decided it could be better walking in a mech suit.
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>>181602035
End your own life
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>>181602290
wrong anon, fuckstick.
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>>181600172
>The most I ever felt for that old setting was meeting the Vault-Tec salesman.

nail on the fucking head, when I heard the people talking about him I was like

>no no no no nonononono

and when I saw the suit I was heart broken. you really did spend more time with him than you do the rest of your family. him and Codsworth are the ones I really feel for.
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>>181602419
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXEfylQ1VmY
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Most of Buffscale's posts here can be summed up in three sentences

>screen of his character in power armor holding a "I have a tiny penis" comically large heavy weapon
>screen of his frog-faced Piper with watermelon sized tits
>showcasing le random shit he stole from another games, followed by him implying he's the messiah of /fog/ for making it for us unwashed sinners
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>>181602419
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I've not had this much of laugh from /fog/ in a long time.
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>>181602482
Yeah, he won't tell me if he prefers Komodo cock or Seinfeld still though
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>>181602508
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>>181602419

this blue shit is stupid, what if you're not wearing vault-tex when you meet her? or you never wear it around her?
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Is there a mod that disables the shitty canned death animations from melee/creatures yet
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>>181602642
she says something like "you've got that fish out of water look typical of a vault dweller"
even though there's literally 1 (one) vault in the entire commonwealth that even has live dwellers, and those guys are total shut-ins
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>>181602642
if you're not wearing it when you meet her, she goes by the pipboy you're wearing. it's still stupid but at least the do acknowledge it
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>>181602286
amazing
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>>181602642
>Piper will call the player character "Blue," referring to the Sole Survivor's blue jumpsuit. If the Survivor is not wearing the jumpsuit, Piper will simply say "I know you're not wearing the jumpsuit right now but the Pip-Boy and the 'fish out of water' look? Dead giveaways."
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>>181602035
The others might not but thank you, now people can just tell them to shut up and filter. It's nothing personal, it's just not everyone wants to see the same shitposts day in and out, or is here to specifically shitpost now both sides can enjoy the general a little more.
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>>181602753
>A quick screenshot of the webpage that would have been labelled photoshop
>Too bad :^)
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>>181602752
>>181602631
>>181602508
>>181602419
Neck yourself
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>>181602508
>>181602419
>>181602238

I forgot how weird that shit was

Where would she even find a pregnancy test?!
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>>181602769

its still stupid
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>>181602814
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>>181602820
Would you prefer suck off a gecko or watch the first season of Seinfeld?
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>>181603012
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>>181601940
Please /fog/, I need some guidance.
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>>181602958
why is the cunt in blue talking like a strayan cunt
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any good mods that help nuka world make more sense if you wanna go full good guy?
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>>181603150
no
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>>181602885
It's part of the insufferable personality. Rarely do you ever meet people in real life who feel like they have the liberty of hanging the first thing that comes to mind on you as a nickname, and they're always cunts.
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>>181603212
shit!!!! fuck!!!!
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Only one way to deal with Piper.
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>>181603280
>Le essential faec :^)
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>>181603091
I'd guess it's super exaggerated to make fun of cait
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>>181603360
Not much of face left imo.
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>>181603424
The eyes on top of the hat remind me of Mayor McCheese
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>>181603072
>>181601940
Pleyas halp
>lelumultipass.jpg
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>>181603417
Ayyyyylmao
Kys ET

>>181603424
Topkek, her fucking hat and eyes
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>>181603514
You didn't have to shoot everything you nigger
and not a bad idea at all, set up a home in the lucky 38 and go do some questing and shit
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>>181603514
I'm gonna be honest with you. I never finished NV. I was pretty high level, started the branching quest already and was halfway through lonesome road before I decided that the game was just boring by then.
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>>181603959
Are you actually having fun posting these?
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>>181604049
It's pure autism
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Well...
Shit...
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>>181604049
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>>181604049
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>>181604207
wait what
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>>181604207
This the mod you're using?
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/24680/?
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>>181604357
that mod does not do this
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>>181601940
>Shot up casinos because they made a reasonable request of no guns

Jesus man calm the fuck down, Obsidian did with the whole .22lr silenced pistol, or smaller melee weapons and a somewhat decent sneak iirc. As of now just give him the chip then fuck off to where ever you want, or hold onto the chip till later.
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do you guys use the nora companion mod to have a clone of yourself?
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>>181604332
>>181604357
No clue.
Managed to fix with console faggotry.
It was weird.
Reeses Puffs and the Institute lady were just standing there waiting patiently.
I got her in, and then it was like, resume scene.
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>>181604647
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>>181604698
She has an imaginary child though...
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>>181603643
I was gonna run, but they shot my EDE.
>>181603671
There is a disturbing lack of "that feel".
Maybe for the timeline it works, but ...
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So now that OBsidian has destoryed the west, BEthesda has covered the east, and the Midwest is a giant no mans land due to Tactics, who is ready for Fallout: The South
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>>181604992
>OBBE
What did he mean by this?
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>>181605021
its an accident because my fucking shift key is messed up, and gets stuck
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The only problem I have with this guy's pictures is that he seems to be romancing all 3 of them at the same time, while piper is pregnant.

Some people do that and I'm not talking shit about polyamorous stuff in general since that's what makes them happy, but in this case it seems like a "i just want to fuck them all" type of thing.
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>>181605197
The guy is an autistic faggot, but so are you
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>>181605180
>not having two shift keys
What did he mean by this?
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>>181605267
>using the right shift key
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>>181604554
THEY wouldnt let me just leave.
I'd leave them at home before trusting them to dev trickery.
No sense in checking muh guns just to walk out the door.
THEY shot my EDE. A lesson was in order.
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>>181605384
>Do you even controller bro
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>>181604992
Well we still got the north west, could do something in the Northern area around North and South Dakota as well.
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>>181605601
>Well we still got the north west
Pretty sure the dead Fallout MMO destroyed any possibility of a game being set there

>could do something in the Northern area around North and South Dakota as well.
>Implying after D.C., Vegas, and Boston, they would set a game in bum-fuck small town

nope
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>>181605397
>Check guns
>Turn 360 degrees and moon walk out
>Have all your guns back with no trouble
In all my hundreds of hours of playing, I've never had a gun disappear after leaving a casino.
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>>181605710
>He doesn't want to bring a desolate area together into a thriving community

I mean they already are pushing settlement bullshit, might as well let us start a town. Could also do something in the Great Lake region. Other than that to tell south would be another option, but since they own the full rights again there is nothing stopping them from doing the north west.
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I put about 40 hours into this game and dropped it, then a couple weeks ago I finally bothered installing Place Anywhere and disabling the build limits to give settlement build a real shot, and holy shit is it fun. Being able to make an entire city to come back to has made the rest of the game fun for me in giving me some real motivation to play.
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>>181606284
No I don't want to have to create my own shitty subpar towns full of generic NPCs with patching issues for their to be a little civilization in the shitty world
I'd rather have some nice set pieces with interesting vistas and interesting characters, not another game of boring shit where you have to create your own meagre fun with a pile of shit
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>>181606636
You seem ass devistated
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Does anyone know of a mod that allows for non-natural skin colors that still look 'natural'?

I know that doesn't really make sense, but I've seen mods that allow for, say, blue or green or purple skin, but they don't look quite right, they just look wrong, even aside from just being colors you don't expect a human to be normally.

Like, I want green skin that looks good, and not just like some filter, like how super mutant is green. I don't even know if I'm even making sense with that.

The need for muscly orcish women with axes and loincloths demands it.
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>>181606794
About what you mongoloid fuck?
I'm just stating I don't want a shitty mechanic to take precedent over the developers of the game actually attempting some interesting worldbuilding and quest design
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>>181606967
> of the game actually attempting some interesting worldbuilding
I found each of the larger settlements in Fallout 4 to be varied, both visually, and by the personalities of the people in them

Diamond City, Goodneighbor, Bunker Hill, Vault 81, as well as the faction bases of The Prydwen, the Institute, and the Railroad HQ, were all visually unique, and immediately identifiable.
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>>181606636
I'd like that as well but with how well FO4 did that is what we're going to get, because it's dirt cheap to do and fill the game with instead of actual interesting shit.
Personally the way I could see it being bearable is more of a you're just a part of the community, not actually having to autisticly build every little bit of it. It's a central hub that grows as time goes on on its own or you can directly invest or assist to help shape the way it grows. This leads to people coming to you with more quests so you can meet some different people (chance at interesting but this is Bethesda), or you can go to a different settlement that's more raiderish to help it grow, or a settlement that's a faction like BoS.
This gives you a reason to explore to find resources, or special items that people need to help you or the settlement in general.

Then again we're more likely to get another loot shooter set in the Fallout landscape.
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>>181607178
I forgot bunker hill and goodneighbor even existed they were so fucking pathetic and lifeless
Diamond city is both retarded and shit
Face it anon, towns in this are dogshit and Ill thought out because Bethesda expected you to hang out in your shitty custom generic NPC filled shitholes
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>>181607323
>I forgot bunker hill and goodneighbor even existed they were so fucking pathetic and lifeless
>Diamond city is both retarded and shit
>Face it anon, towns in this are dogshit and Ill thought out because Bethesda expected you to hang out in your shitty custom generic NPC filled shitholes
You seem to be really fucking buttdevistated

did Fallout 4 kill your dog or something?
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>>181607178
While I agree they may have a unique visual they didn't have much in the way of memorable quests or people that were compelling or interesting. Bethesda sacrificed depth to greatly improved the crunch of gunplay and streamlined mechanics. They also sacrificed depth for Minecraft lite with settlement building and made it a central thing for any kind of higher difficulty which is pure bullshit, radiant fetch quests that were tedious at best, no need to actually think about a build because you'll be able to be good at everything eventually and most places outside settlements being just nests of raiders.
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>>181607407
> they didn't have much in the way of memorable quests or people that were compelling or interesting
Silver Shroud, and Diamond City Blues, just to name two off the top of my head.

Also, I found Hancock in Goodneighbor to be ore interesting then most NPCs in Fallout 3 or NV.

The nerdy ass Travis, Kent, the ghoul stuck in the past, THICC Overseer Mcnamera.

They had all the development they should have gotten.
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>>181607365
I understand his frustration, I was pretty stoked for a Fallout with better gunplay and a world that was more alive. If I had known it would sacrifice story and rpg elements I wouldn't have had my hopes up only to find out the game is a slog and you're shoehorned into a role without a mod.
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>>181607365
Todd Howard personally snapped my dog's neck because I didn't pre-order Fallout 4 VR.
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>>181607365
No because its essential and as such can't die
Bunker hill is fucking bland as fuck, I bet you a fair few people never even fucking went there, it was complete dogshit
Goodneighbor was a little better, but it was about 2 streets with a couple of shops, 1 mostly empty building that took up a shit load of space and fuck all else
Diamond city took a cool idea, made it retarded, then populated it with retards who wear baseball gear as combat armor
A city in a stadium could have been cool but instead it's just a brown circle of shit with a few shacks in the middle and some elevator to a single office, cool
Fo4 towns are dogshit, and the settlement making is a dogshit way of alleviating that
This game si shit for anything other than hoarding random junk and nauseam
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>>181607407
> no need to actually think about a build because you'll be able to be good at everything eventually
This is a far lesser problem in Fallout 4 then it was in Fallout 3 or NV.

In Fallout 3 and NV, it was easy to get 100 in ecvery skill before you reached max level.

In Fallout 4, you need to reach the neigh impossible level of like 300+ to get every perk, and achive the same as Fallout 3 and NV.

You, qite objectively, have to put more thought into a build in Fallout 4 then you did in Fallout 3 and NV, since you are far more limited.
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>>181607571
>and you're shoehorned into a role
You mean like all actual RPGs ranging from Fallouts 1/2, to Deus Ex, to Witcher, to Planescape Torment?

Its almost like, in an RPG, you play a ROLE or something!
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>>181607607
Did you say diamond city? Why, the best place to buy a swatter is right here! Get ya swatters!
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>>181607856
I play as a special forces soldier so COD 4 is an RPG
I'm playing my ROLE
You need to fucking kill yourself retarded newfag, why are kids so retarded these days
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>>181607856
In a game that promotes a sandbox play style where you can do the main story or go run the countryside for hours instead having a pre-set backstory is not wanted. Tack on a terrible voice acting and line delivery and you have the reason why people hate the set ss.
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>>181608031
>I play as a special forces soldier so COD 4 is an RPG
Difference is that you don't really do anything else related to an RPG, such as making choices about how to precede through quests, or how you will distribute your stats(in the single player portion at least)
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>>181607529
Silver Shroud was actually a decent quest and fun, I'll be honest had to look up the second one even though I've done it a couple times.
I do agree Hancock is a pretty solid NPC.
Travis is annoying and a bore, Kent is one of the reasons the shroud quest was interesting but he's a side note. Never have cared what Mcnamera has to say or do, she's uninteresting to me.

However even with all that how much time of this game does that fill? Hardly any except maybe the Shroud quest, the rest is wandering from place to place looting to build the next settlement if you play on survival or just wanting to mow down some raiders. I will say the repairing the ship with robots was actually fun and memorable, the other issue I have is the main story is a drag with each faction being retarded and one being outright unlikeable, to me anyway, instead of each having some positives but a couple negatives.
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>>181556110

Late to the party, but yes. There is a level scale mod in the Nexus (not at home, don't remember the name right now) that edits the same level values as wotc, so load it after wotc on the modlist.
Btw how is wotc treating you on later levels? Had to remove mine since my save got bloated with scripts and started crashing like a motherfucker.
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>>181606635
>collect deskfans and hotplates to build a shitty little sandcaste
>fun
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>>181607620
>Put more thought into a build
>Boost specials then pick the handful of perks that make you a killing machine

Yeah so much work
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Aaaashes go HAOOmme
EHRin MISSES YeW
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>>181607856
I guess I should have phrased it better, my issue is without a mod everything about your backstory is decided. In a game that is supposed to be all about playing exactly the way you want why would they do that and add insult to injury with mediocre voice acting?
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I wish there wasn't such a disparity between hacking and lockpicking. I almost never take hacking because lockpicking is usually way more worthwhile, and I can't even think of a single time it would have been worth it to take hacking.
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>>181608375
Only time that comes to mind is the suit of power armor behind a higher computer lock behind the south Boston checkpoint. By that time I'm normally high enough level that it's a full suit of XO-1.
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>>181608320
Monster.
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>>181608118
>is a drag with each faction being retarded and one being outright unlikeable, to me anyway, instead of each having some positives but a couple negatives.
This was my problem wioth New Vegas's factions, and why I prefered Fallout 4's factions over those from New Vegas.

In New Vegas
-Legion was just MUH RAPE FOR LULZ
-NCR was Loony Tunes level comedy dysfunctional, and impossible to take seriously
-House was just a moron, who everything he did made no real sense
-Yes Man was just power fantasy ruler simulator, in a region you had no connection too.

On the other hand, in Fallout 4
-The BoS were racist bigots, but otherwise actually proved they could get shit fucking done efficiently, and quickly.

-The Railroad were extremists, bordering on terrorists, but were fighting for an actual noble cause, to free slaves, and beat down racial intolerance.

-The Minutemen were poorly managed, and systemically unstable, but represented an idealized dream of "by the people for the people"

-The Institute were largely misunderstood social retards, that were blamed by the xenophobic surfacers for tons of shit they hadn othign to do with, which forced them into a rather bad cycle of having to become the evil everyone believed they were, in an effort to defend themselves from the paranoid idiots of the surface who believed they were doing tons of shit they weren't.

The factions in Fallout 4 were miles better handled then those in NV, which were basically nothing but caricatureized extremes
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>>181608357
> In a game that is supposed to be all about playing exactly the way you want
Except its not, which is why neither Fallout 1/2/3 were open.

The ONLY Fallout game to work the way you describe is New Vegas, which was an outlier compared to the rest of the series in that regard.
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>>181608582
Is this bait?
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>>181608654
>fallout 3 wasn't open
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>>181608658
I think he might actually believe it, not sure
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>>181608737
>181608737
>you have set parents, who are major characters in the game
>a set backstory
>your years from 1-18 are pre-set
>open
Nope
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>>181608582
-The Minutemen were Loony Tunes level comedy dysfunctional, and impossible to take seriously.

-The Railroad was just MUH RIGHT FOR TURRETS

-The Institute were just morons and nothing they did made real sense.

>The Bos was just a MUH DEUS VULT power fantasy regulator for a cause you had no connection to.
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>>181608828
You seem to think there is no nuance between a complete blank slate character and a preset character.
Thinking in extremes is a clinical sign for autism anon.Maybe you should get checked.
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>>181608582
>Legion was just muh rape for lulz
Hardly they were a force that Caesar intended to use as a catalysts to better humanity as a whole. His goal was never to keep the Legion but to use it as it was made a force of conquest that would force humanity together to have common ground then dissolve and meld with the remnants of the NCR. The draw backs were it was a brutal regime because it needed to be focused on conquest alone and remind people the atrocities man is capable of.
>NCR was Loony Tunes level comedy dysfunctional and impossible to take seriously
The NCR was just that, showing how clinging to old world values without really understanding them led to a cluster fuck of a society. It's positives were mostly in the freedom it's citizens had and the revival of the way the old world was. The faults were just that corruption and an inability to learn from the last.
>House was just a moron, who everything he did made no real sense
He was lost in nostalgia and narcissism. House had survived the war and was one of the smartest men alive before the bombs. His ideal was a state ruled under him alone, living off others entities to keep caps flowing in. The perks are he has survived this long and has a real shot of bring stability to the region since the other two are bound to collapse if left to their own devices. The drawbacks are he is blinded by his own self importance and isn't concerned with humanity overall, but his own little slice of paradise.
>Yes man......
Was an option for murderhobos and anarchist pure and simple. His perks were the ultimate power trip of taking control, the downfalls of you are one man and mortal.
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>>181608979
The problem with that rather poor rebuttal is that those things are either provably false, or actually explainable, unlike in New Vegas.

The Minutemen being dysfunctional is how they should be, because they aren't an organized faction of any kind. They are literally just a bunch of locals who are willing to take up arms to defend thier neighbors, and thus, bing dysfunctional is to be expected.

The NCR's level of dysfunctional operations in New Vegas makes no sense for any sort of developed nation to have. If they were actually that dysfunctional, they would have collapsed decades ago because they can't even manage to get caravans 5 miles down the road
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Is there no /tes/ style modguide for fo4?
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>>181609408
You'd need people with basic understanding of modding for that.
Fo4 players only barely manage to press the download button for the Nexus hotfiles and they often even fuck that up.
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>>181609192
>Hardly they were a force that Caesar intended to use as a catalysts to better humanity as a whole
Except this is demonstrably false, as evidenced by his complete and total disregard for his own rules.

Also, if Caesar actually believed this, he is an ever bigger moron then I made him out to be, as the very history books that he read to learn about Rome in the first place would have told him exactly that doesn't work.

What you say about the NCR is a similar problem, they are just too stupid to take seriously because they are people trying to form an actual nation, but mindlessly ignore everything about why America fialed pre-war, simply to make a point.

And that is really New Vegas's biggest problem in general, everything exists to make a point, rather then exists because it makes sense for it to exist that way, allowing one to draw a point out of it.

New Vegas's factional writing is one step away from just having Cuck Sawyer sitting in front of a blank screen and simply telling you the social points he wanted to make.

That in turn makes it feel obviously unreal, because its obvious the only reason why things are happening is to force the point down your throat.
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>>181609504
Beautiful.
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>>181609408
not. yet. there is this though >>181561539
pretty shit I know but it's the best we've got
sorta representative of fo4 really
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>>181561539
>https://pastebin.com/tjVXMmw6
baed
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>>181609408
>modguide
>for Fallout 4
>when Fallout 4 already incorporates all the biggest mods from Fallout 3, and many of the early mods for Fallout 4, into its vanilla gameplay, or DLC

There is no need for a modguide for a game that already has everything but nude/lewd mods built into it, or its DLC.

The only mod to add any sort of significant gameplay mechanic not covered by the base game or its DLC is sim settlements
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>>181609661
link a better one then
pls anon, we need it
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>>181608582
To continue from >>181609192

The BoS is a force that now resembles the Enclave, instead of being worried about protecting man from itself they also worry about purity for reasons unexplained.

The Railroad is a group that has not bothered to ask the question "what dangers do synths pose to an already scattered humanity?" They believe blindly in their cause because of feelings and not what is best for everyone.

The Minutemen are a joke that hinges on a random person to bring them back together, they'll splinter just like before after your death.

The Institute was written to cartoonist levels of evil, because most the things they were blamed for they did. For no reason they let loose their FEV experiments on the surface "for science". Instead of attempting to simply integrate a synth into a population they abduct, experiment on then dispose of, and replace with a synth. The surface dwellers were attempting to come together and form a group effort to better humanity as a whole, the Institute sent an assassin to slaughter these leaders for reasons.
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>>181609662
If only there were a mod that adds a decent story and quests beyond lootin' & shootin' am i right guys?
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>>181609732
> they also worry about purity for reasons unexplained.
Except they don't, which is why they make no effort to kill all the mutant wastelanders, or make any move to kill any ghouls beyond the ferals.

The only think they seek to kill are raiders, ferals, and super mutants, all of which are hostile to everything that isn't them, as well as synths, who they logically fear for their ability to infiltrate.

>The Railroad is a group that has not bothered to ask the question "what dangers do synths pose to an already scattered humanity?"
Except they have, and both Deacon and Desdemona talk about it.

>The Minutemen are a joke that hinges on a random person to bring them back together, they'll splinter just like before after your death.
They lasted 100 years, and the death of many generals, before they fell apart. All things splinter and die in time, see the old world for proof.

>The Institute was written to cartoonist levels of evil, because most the things they were blamed for they did.
Except for
-The Fall of the CPg(which was the surfacers fault)
-The Broken Mask Incident(which was a total accident)
-The Destruction of University Point(which was Kellogg going to the extreme)

>For no reason they let loose their FEV experiments on the surface
They do it to keep the surfacers too distracted fighting the super mutant horde, which, while powerful, is too stupid to ever outright destroy the surfacers, so that the people of the surface can't rally to attack The Institute.

> Instead of attempting to simply integrate a synth into a population they abduct, experiment on then dispose of, and replace with a synth.
Given that everyone on the surface belives every "new" person is a synth, having a synth try to ingrate into the normal population would be impossible, since everyone would blindly believe he is a synth anyways.

Replacing someone who is already known to not be a synth is a far better means of trying to get an agent into a group, without getting ntoiced
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>>181609732
Not the dude you're replying to, but:

The BoS's obsession with synths is really strange. It's fine when its against the Institute, but when they just wipe out Acadia for no reason? really jingles my jangles.

I have no idea what your point about the RR even is

>hinges on a random person to bring them back together
so? that's their entire point
>they'll splinter just like before after your death.
meh, the same argument could be said about any other faction "without [their leader], [faction] would just crumble"

there is no defense for how retarded the Institute were. there is however some nuance to the cpg situation.
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>>181609245
>frontier region outside of NCR borders
>occupied by several tribes that were pushed east by the NC and are thus hostile
>undermined by Legion saboteurs and House machinations
There's a good reason why the NCR is shown to be not in control of the situations.Because they are not.
Both House and the Legion are shown to do their best to sabotage the NCRs progress at every step.
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>>181610017
>frontier region outside of NCR borders
Except the NCR border is literally in-game.

Its like saying America couldn't effectively move supplies to fucking Toronto.

>occupied by several tribes that were pushed east by the NC and are thus hostile
The only tribe in the mojave region pushed east are the Khans, Vipers, and Jackals, all of which are literal non issues by the time the game begins.

>undermined by Legion saboteurs and House machinations
Which is hilariously stupid.

A blading man wh oread a few history books is able to get spies into some of the hgihest levels of NCR command, years before the NCR even knew of the Legion, because Caesar is just THAT damn good.

Dude makes the shit Skeletor and Lex Luthor do look like believable plots.
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>>181609986
>institute sends synths to scavenge for supplies, both by gameplay and mentioned in dialogue
>but they release a group of hostile creatures that consume vast amounts of ressources and occupy valuable places like hospitals and military installations
>institute personell literally talks about how humanity will flourish when the surfacers finally die off
>but they don't actually kill them
>institute goes out of their way to destabilize and terrorize the surface
>because people living in shacks might locate and tunnel down to the institute and attack them with pipe guns
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>>181610175
Are you stretching so hard now that you compare a post-war faction that relies on cows to move supplies with the USA?

Also did you entirely miss the part about Caesar where he's a well educated Follower of the Apocalypse who lived in california?
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>>181610305
>institute personell literally talks about how humanity will flourish when the surfacers finally die off
>but they don't actually kill them
Yes, they believe the people of the surface are doomed, but aren't willing to genocide them all to hurry up the process.

>institute goes out of their way to destabilize and terrorize the surface
>because people living in shacks might locate and tunnel down to the institute and attack them with pipe guns
Except, as clearly shown in-game, places like Diamond City, and Bunker Hills, sell far more powerful weaponry.

>institute sends synths to scavenge for supplies, both by gameplay and mentioned in dialogue
>but they release a group of hostile creatures that consume vast amounts of ressources and occupy valuable places like hospitals and military installations
Actually, Super Mutants consume very little reasons due to not needing to eat a lot due to FEV, and their inability to build or maintain things.

At worse, Super Mutants are squatters, ones The Institute can easily remove if they need something from a place they are in.
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>>181610401
> where he's a well educated
Except he isn't. The Followers aren't that well educated, and barely understand how basic technology works.

They are only well educated compared to the non educated wastelanders.

But its made very clear in New Vegas they don't even know how to make fucking stimpacks
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>>181609531
>Except this is demonstrably false, as evidenced by his complete and total disregard for his own rules.
His only rules were, conquer, assimilate repeat until he had brought down the corruption that had become the NCR. This assimilation had brought together different tribes into a single fighting force and you'd know that if you bothered listening to all his dialogue options. He states his goal to you, to bring humanity together in unity instead of fractured the way the NCR existed.
>Also, if Caesar actually believed this, he is an ever bigger moron then I made him out to be, as the very history books that he read to learn about Rome in the first place would have told him exactly that doesn't work.
Yet it had given him the entire region the Legion controlled and made it a big enough force to threaten the NCR. As it stood people were already thinking of joining the Legion willingly for the safety they offered.
>NCR
They are America without a federal government, each area is out for their own interests instead of unity in one nation. It's why they are just a lumbering mess that seeks more resources above all.

>Implying the factions in FO4 weren't much the same

The BoS is making a point of blind obedience in a cause can easily lead to bigotry and hatred.

The Railroad is making a point that slavery is bad and feelings should take priority over logic.

The Institute is making a point that science left unchecked leads to unethical practices and a feeling of superiority for being a closed off group.

The Minutemen are making a point that people don't help each other unless it directly benefits them.
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>>181610439
>but aren't willing to genocide them all to hurry up the process.
Well they are clearly willing to hurry up the progress by simply shooting them by proxy.

>Except, as clearly shown in-game, places like Diamond City, and Bunker Hills, sell far more powerful weaponry.
Which still leaves the point that the Institute is apparently so scared that surfacers might locate them and drum up the know-how and ressources to tunnel down to them.

>Actually, Super Mutants consume very little resources
>The Institute can easily remove them
>source:my ass
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>>181609531
Do not bring up the history of Rome if you're an ignorant fucking moron with no grasp on it
Caesars legion draws few comparisons with Rome, besides the assimilation, which is ramped up to max
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>>181610010
The point of the railroad is synths can and do pose a threat to humanity, since they are better than humans in every way. They haven't thought of the impact, or outright ignore, the implications of releasing a huge group of these individuals who may very well decide that it was humans who oppressed them so humans must be wiped.

With the BoS a new Elder will be put forward, with the Institute a new director will be appointed, with the Railroad they'll be wiped out because of how few are left. The Minutemen have shown they don't have any cohesion beyond what you inspire, just like the last general who kept everything peaceful then passed and it all went to shit.
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>>181610175
So you went from "balding man who just read some books" to "well he's educated but not educated ENOUGH especially not in medecine".
What's the next step of your masterplan?
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>>181610668
>Well they are clearly willing to hurry up the progress by simply shooting them by proxy.
Not really, in the 100+ years super mutants have been on the surface, they have destroy zero known settlements of note, and their attacks on places like Diamond City, and Goodneighbor, are so minor no one cares.

The whole point of super mutant is that while they are psychically gifted, they are too stupid to ever achieve anything.

Even Piper mentions she has killed a number of super mutants herself.

>Which still leaves the point that the Institute is apparently so scared that surfacers might locate them and drum up the know-how and ressources to tunnel down to them.
They have every right to be. The Institute knows they are not invulnerable, and the greatest threat hey could face is the prople of the surface, who outnumber them greatly, rising up against them as one.

Its stated more then once that, before its fall, The Minutemen were very effective at fighting The Institute.

>Actually, Super Mutants consume very little resources
>The Institute can easily remove them
>source:my ass
Source the game.

There is a terminal inside The Institute that mentions super mutants as a tertiary threat because they are easy to avoid, and rarely seek to expand their territory.
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>>181610885
>So you went from "balding man who just read some books" to "well he's educated but not educated ENOUGH especially not in medecine".
Those two things are entirely supportive of each other, he is a balding man who just read some books, and that makes him more educated then most of the people of the wasteland who don't know how to read.

Still doesn't make him smart by any means.
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>>181609986
The BoS is against ghouls and super mutants, last I checked they were only about keeping really dangerous tech out of people's hands not cleaning up areas they had no reason to go to.
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>>181598190

Have a snickers anon
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>>181611035
>There is a terminal inside The Institute that mentions super mutants as a tertiary threat because they are easy to avoid, and rarely seek to expand their territory.
Yes that says they actively avoid them and the ressource-filled places they occupy which is the exact opposite of easily removing them.
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>>181611134
The BoS is against feral ghouls, while they are bigoted to non-ferals, they are shown to work with them.

And Danse, as well as many BoS memebrs, mention that the BoS frequently goes to purge raider groups, even if no tech is involved, in order to make the wasteland safer.
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>>181611087
Point is he was educated by the Followers to be a competent liaison to primitive tribes.Giving him education in multiple languages, psychology and sociology.More than enough to drum some stick wielding idiots into an army.
And smart enough to recognize that the faction that occupies the place where he grew up in, the faction he plans to eventually "reform" since he took the title of Caesar, needed to be infiltrated and undermined.
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>>181611306
>Giving him education in multiple languages,
Actually, he lacked this skill, which is why he needed Graham
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>>181609729
Oops I meant based
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>>181611202
So they still are worrying about things other than their primary mission which was "keep the powerful shit away from tards". I'll admit I spoke in error about purity but they seem to be worrying about more for reasons unexplained. If they truly we're efficient they'd have been focused on the Institute that there'd hardly be a synth that could pop up on the surface with a squad dropping on them in minutes.
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>>181611347
Right, the other members where there for translation, he was set up to teach the primitives some resemblance of civilization. Which is literally what he did.
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>>181611415
Without*
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>>181611452
Also I realized I should explain the unexplained part, from the Elders conversation and BoS in general they were fed up with babysitting with elder Lyons in charge. So why are they so willing to jump to this area and do the exact same thing?
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>>181611415
>So they still are worrying about things other than their primary mission which was "keep the powerful shit away from tards".
The BoS's primary mission is to prtoect humanity.

Maxson realized the folly of the Western Elders was thier refusal to help others out, and thus gian outside support, so he adopted many of Lyons' method of PR to gain more recruits to keep his order alive.

You seem to think that the idiotic western BoS are the only BoS.

>If they truly we're efficient they'd have been focused on the Institute that there'd hardly be a synth that could pop up on the surface with a squad dropping on them in minutes.
That would be impossible given The Insittue's ability to teleport, and the BoS's inability to track it.

None of this is unexplained.
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>>181610802
>since they are better than humans in every way
yeah no
aside from game mechanics there is a shockingly small amount of info on synths
them being "better than humans in every way" is certainly not canon.

>releasing a huge group of these individuals who may very well decide that it was humans who oppressed them so humans must be wiped
unlikely though. the RR itself is very pro mindwipe, so the synths they put in the commonwealth very easily integrate.
the ones that don't (acadia) are very pro-peace and just want to exist and be free.

like the other dude pointed out, the Minutemen have survived for decades before. you're out of the picture, a new general will step in.
the BoS have had problems with elders before that caused a lot of strife (even split the faction multiple times), the RR had a previous leader that almost caused the organization to fall apart, and although we don't have any mention of trouble for the institute, it's not far fatched to say they could've had it.
really the stability of the minutemen post-game is on the same level as the other factions.
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>>181611590
>So why are they so willing to jump to this area and do the exact same thing?
Maxson outright tells you why, The Institue has shown a level of technology on par, or possibly greather, then the Enclave, and thus, the BoS is there to see what the yare doing, assess the situation, and eliminate any possible threat before it has the chance to grow larger.

>from the Elders conversation and BoS in general they were fed up with babysitting with elder Lyons in charge.
Actually, they were fed up with Lyons focus on super mutants over technology.

The Outcasts put up with Lyons crusade becuase he still went after tech, and it was only after Lyons refused to raid Fort Independence that they broke off.

Maxson better balances the two, keeping both sides happy.

Also, as epxlained by Ingramand several others, ever since the defeat of the Enclave, the BoS has been slowly expanding from D.C., conquering the east coast as they go. The ywere going to come to Boston at some point anyways
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>>181611709
>them being "better than humans in every way" is certainly not canon.
Its outright stated by several scienstis that synths are faster and stronger then humans, we also know they do not age, and they cannot gain or loose weight.

We also know they are immune to radiation
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>>181611202
>make the wasteland safer
So how does attacking the Railroad and Minuteman fit into that narrative?
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>>181611709
>them being "better than humans in every way" is certainly not canon
The institute robotics division literally tells you that synths don't age and need not eat, sleep or rest.
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>>181611840
They don't attack the Minutemen unless the Minutemen attack first, you idiot.

The Railraod are allowing dangerous synths to get into the normal human populace, which puts everyone else in danger, and refuse to stop.
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>>181611797
>synths are faster and stronger than humans
maybe faster and stronger than institute scientists, I guess.
only coursers really are stronger than your average human, but they're so poorly written that I really don't wanna get into them.

>we also know they do not age
ehhh
we know synth shaun (a prototype child synth) will not age. that's about it.

>and they cannot gain or loose weight
they can't get obese, and maybe not lose weight (I think that one is specific to McDonough, but whatever), but is that really such an advantage against humans?
an improvement sure (if they're made to be buff)

>We also know they are immune to radiation
No, no we don't.

>>181611938
>sleep or rest
simply untrue. shit, the first time you walk into robotics a dude is talking about synths dreaming
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>>181611986
>dangerous synths
please explain how mindwiped synths are a threat
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>>181612078
>only coursers really are stronger than your average human
Uhh no, synths in general are stronger then most people due to the enhanced muscle mass gained from the FEV used to make them.

>we know synth shaun (a prototype child synth) will not age. that's about it.
No, we know synths in general do not age. Its even mentioned that wiping Synth Mccdounachs mind will removed "any self perceived sence of old age". Meaning, he doesn't age, he can only "think" he is older.

> but is that really such an advantage against humans?
They can never become physically unfit, unless specifically deigned to be unfit, which means, no matter how lax they are, they will always be at peak, whereas humans have to maintain such a peak by working out.

Yes, that is a MASSIVe advantage.

>No, no we don't.
Yes we do, its even mentioned several times that synths are immune to radiation.

>simply untrue. shit, the first time you walk into robotics a dude is talking about synths dreaming
Not that guy, but just because synths CAN sleep doesn't mean they have too, or need too.
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>>181612142
>please explain how mindwiped synths are a threat
Play Fallout 4, or Far Harbor.

Min wiping a synth does nothing, as the personality always comes back.
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>>181612142
>>181612280
Nevermind that, how are not mindwiped Synths a threat? I mean beside the possibility that an individual synth with free will might decide to become a murderer just like every single human raider did?
So are they a threat because if they have free will some of them might be better at being a dick than humans are?
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>>181612142
Play the game you fucking faggot
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>>181612578
Not that anon but i for one did play the game.The only Synths shown to be a threat in the entire game are Synths under control of the institute.

Of the free synths, both mindwiped and not, there is literally ONE guy leading the raiders in libertalia shown to be a threat.The game is actively going out of its way to tell us that synths outside of institute control are fine.
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>>181612225
>Uhh no, synths in general are stronger then most people due to the enhanced muscle mass gained from the FEV used to make them.
pure conjecture on your part. we have no idea what role FEV plays in synth biology, but we do know that synths are indistinguishable from humans, aside from the synth component

>Meaning, he doesn't age, he can only "think" he is older.
Interesting, I hadn't actually seen this interpretation before.
My take is he just believe his body is weaker than it actually is.
But yeah I'm reconsidering this point now.

>they will always be at peak
being unable to change your weight != being always at your physical peak
otherwise identifying synths would be really easy, just look for the swollest person in the room

>Yes we do, its even mentioned several times that synths are immune to radiation.
Alright then, point me to it.

>Not that guy, but just because synths CAN sleep doesn't mean they have to, or need to.
but there's no evidence that they don't need to. why assume that?

>>181612280
>>181612578
I have.
I don't know what you're talking about. I can only think of Jule, and she literally had brain damage.
>>181612576
as demonstrated by acadia's pacifist behaviour, they aren't.
but it's true that they can be used as rather effective spies, so there's some semblance of a motive.
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>>181612576
>how is a quasi-immortal, super strong, super fast, radiation immune, being, that doesn't need to eat, or sleep, a threat!
Please tell me you aren't this retarded.
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>>181612681
>pure conjecture on your part
Except its mentioned by both Kellogg, and scientists in The Institute.

>otherwise identifying synths would be really easy, just look for the swollest person in the room
Nope.

Synths are always at the physical peak that they are designed to be at, most are not designed to be SWOLE.

>but there's no evidence that they don't need to. why assume that?
But there is

http://fallout.gamepedia.com/Max_Loken%27s_dialogue
>Our third-generation synths are a true breakthrough, the culmination of centuries of research. It's no exaggeration to say that they're superior in almost every way to human beings.

>The list of improvements is exhaustive. I can talk for an hour and still not cover all of it. Imagine what you could accomplish if you could live without fear of hunger or disease. Imagine what you could create if you could use every waking moment of your life as you saw fit, with no need of sleep?

You seemed to have not talked to many NPCs, which is why you are seemingly so confused about basic plot points
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>>181612681
>Yes we do, its even mentioned several times that synths are immune to radiation.
Alright then, point me to it.
Not him, and while I am not sure what quote he is talking about, everything mutated by FEV is immune to radiation due to the nature of FEV itself.

Super mutants, centaurs, floaters, mutant hounds, etc. etc. Synths would be no different.
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>>181612717
Yes that makes them a threat in theory, i understand that.
But that counts for Ghouls too.They aren't super strong or superfast, but just as capable in combat as humans, on top of being literally healed by radiation and not needing to eat.
So why aren't sentient ghouls recognized as a threat that need to be wiped out at every possibility? They are obviously better equipped than humans to survive in a wasteland.
>they go feral eventually
They are able to live longer as sentients than humans are able to live at all.
>they can't procreate reliably
Neither can Synths.
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>>181612915
I can only think of Nick saying he's immune to radiation, but he's made out of plastic so he doesn't speak for Gen3s.
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>>181613169
>So why aren't sentient ghouls recognized as a threat that need to be wiped out at every possibility?
Because ghouls can't be mentally controlled like synths can, and ghouls can't be made in factory in the thousands like synths can.
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>>181612842
>Except its mentioned by both Kellogg, and scientists in The Institute.
yeah, when they're talking about coursers, even then, no mention of FEV

>Synths are always at the physical peak that they are designed to be at
so, most of them are designed to be "at the physical peak" of looking normal? big advantage huh

>max loken
I actually forgot about that dialogue. and its right after the dream one too. I guess I always thought he was talking about future improvements, but I guess I'm wrong on this one.
still though, it's not a thing most synths do. coursers maybe.

>You seemed to have not talked to many NPCs, which is why you are seemingly so confused about basic plot points
don't worry anon, I've played this game for hundreds of hours and done pretty much everything there is to do. some things just aren't as clear as you want them to be though.

>>181612915
we don't know the exact role fev plays or played in developing synths. what we do know is that it's never mentioned in game that synths are radiation resistant, and that they can die to radiation damage.
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>>181613245
So that makes the Institute a threat, and Synths only by proxy.
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>>181613254
>yeah, when they're talking about coursers
And they outright tell your Coursers aren't made, they are trained.

Literally any synth, given the right training, can reach Courser levels of badass, far beyond any human capability.

>so, most of them are designed to be "at the physical peak" of looking normal? big advantage huh
For infiltrator bots, yes, pretty helpful.

If they wanted to make them into an army, it would be very easy to make them all SWOLE as fuck.

You seem to have some mental disability preventing you from thinking about anything beyond one step.

>some things just aren't as clear as you want them to be though.
Its all pretty clear, the only lack of clarity comes from you wanting to brush aside anything you don't like.
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>>181613254
>coursers
Justin Ayo says coursers are handpicked from the standard Synth stock and then vigorously trained in combat.
I honestly don't know what you're saying here.Are you implying they also go through some genetic enhancement? Because i don't think that's ever mentioned.
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>>181613369
>infiltrator bots
To be fair they are designed as a workforce first and for defence second which would make it sensible to create them swole.
Infiltrators are i guess usally custom made, considering the institute fashions them after a live specimen.I mean they created the Mayor to be an elderly overweight man and literally talk about disposing of him later because of his limited use.
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>>181613369
you might've forgotten, but we were talking about the RR not asking the question "what dangers do synths pose to an already scattered humanity"
making a synth army and courser training aren't things the RR or freed synths are interested in doing.

sure, synths might have the capability of being faster stronger hungerless etc, but the ones the RR deals with aren't they behave and believe themselves to be just like anyone else.
what extra danger do they pose if there's no institute to weaponize them?

>>181613372
like I said I don't wanna go into the specifics on coursers because their lore is retarded, but no, I wasn't implying that at all.
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>>181607954
This dude fucking vanished from my game and has yet to return. Where did he go?
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