/gwt/ - GWENT: The Witcher Card Game General

>approaching rank 16
>drop 800 MMR
What the fuck do I do, /gwt/?

>>181050503
take a break, you're probably on tilt

I'm tired of losing. Gimme a top non-skellige deck please, /gwt/.

>>181050726
just check what's swim is playing right now

>>181050726
try buff monsters, that 37 cards nr deck, or that st deck with francesca

>>181050926
I've seen pretty different buff monsters lists, an Eredin Frost version was posted in the last thread but a recent #1 deck was a Dagon Fog variant. How do they compare?

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ok fellas which one
Keira is premium

>>181050926
Is buff monsters better than dagon consume?

>>181051663
pick the premium always

>>181051663
Keira

>>181052905
>>181052759
will do thanks

PRAISE BE TO THE GREAT SUN!

>>181051663
dragon is the best card, but taking a premium is usually fine

although dragon might get nerfed/changed at some point so its possible you could get a refund

>>181053349
Keira is pretty good. Borkh on the other hand doesn't work in a meta where everybody has shackles in their deck.

Does anybody have a good/fun Mulligan/Move ST deck? Ive been playing DORFS but it gets old pretty fast

fuck consoles for delaying patches

Any sekrit club/discord around yet?

>>181053741

>shackles doesn't counter shackles.
>that running 3 shackles with kambi/bork isn't mandatory.

Shackles buffs those cards incredibly, they let you counter their attempts to mitigate through gold cards and unfuck the shackles they might throw at you. Whats more because the debuff synergy is keeps them from being dead cards you can and definately should run 3 in a deck where as non kambi/borkh decks can't run the risk of taking so many potentially dead cards.

Ironically the one card that was meant to hinder borkh and Kambi in CB ended up buffing it.

>>181054345
Weather monsters + drowners and last wish would be better than mulligan ST tbqhfamalam.

>>181054568
That's just some bullshit certain devs are promoting as an excuse for their own issues.

>>181052759
Even when a dupe.

>>181050503
Cut your loses.

MMR system is broken CDPR is trying to unfuck it, irc the number 1 positions mmr is actually declining every day making the 4400 goal unattainable. I'm in the exact same boat, hit rank 16 playing Queenguard, MMR balance patch drops sitting at 2550.

Don't know how you fair but I'll get two wins and get like 20 MMR a game and then some 2.4k player with regis/grave robbers comes in and wins the game at matchmaking costing me 60+ MMR. Worse still is the Vico NG players that end up playing Queensguard in front of me, is this what being cucked feels like?

Feels like forced 50 all over again.

Are Raiders bugged beyond the normal mulligan bug? I swear they are all on top of my deck, every time.

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Triss a cute

>>181057298
wrong thread

I found out how to make Gwent fun again. Play Kambi.

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>>181057538
i apologize, good bye

that 37 card deck is a stroke of genius
best fun I've had in gwent in a week

>>181051663
take the premium keira. it's one of the most aesthetic cards in the game and it's useful without being game breaking garbage like borkh

>>181051663
>Keira is an air/lightning mage
>Has Epidemic instead of Alzhur's Thunder

>>181060465
>capable of replicating the Catriona plague with magic
>not epidemic
play witcher 3

How often is Saskia run in ST? I want to craft Saskia for fat Brouver tempo in round 1. Will she be useful in most ST decks? Or will I regret crafting her once the novelty from fat Brouver wears off?

>>181061238
always

>>181061238
saskia is pretty much the ST gold essential. it's less about how she helps you win and more about the fact ST has pretty crap golds

>>181061238
She's in literally every ST deck.

>>181061238
tells you how weak the faction is when a tempo leader player is mandatory no matter the leader chosen

>>181061387
>>181061392
>>181061405
>>181061486
Thanks guys. I'll get to messing around with fat Brouver.

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this is really disappointing

>>181062049
what the fuck are you talking about. all of these are good

>>181062049
ele'yas is definitely going to be reworked, or really good at some point
odrin is just a fun card right now, but definitely not disappointing or useless.

Watching Noxious or getting waterboarded - which is more painful?

>>181062339
I don't know, anon, because I've never done either of those things.

something fundamentally about weather has to change for the longtime health of this game.

>>181060691

>Capable of replicating the catriona plague
>Capable

You clearly didn't follow that story line properly, she makes a cure and a fortune from selling it, she can't control it with her will alone.

She'd be better with an immune boost potion, Quen and Thunder.

>>181062838
vaccines are just weakened versions of the disease.
your proposed change makes her dumpster tier, and she may as well be a silver mage then.

>>181058241
Patrician taste anon. Kambi best deck right now.

holy shit i just found out that snowballing with Swim's meme NF decks makes Skellishitter so mad that they prolong the game with taking their time

what a time to be alive

>>181062791

It was worse in CB when it would set everything to one. Weather as a mechanically is alright, the problem though is those Aretuzas and Hounds drawing it whilst also thinning the deck. They get to play it for free. Simply cutting that would be a massive blow to the weather spam we're seeing. Whats more people need to use the row clears and Immune boost potions more.

Axemen are a problem in and of themselves it is not weathers fault, you could actually swap their ability with that of Vabjorn in turn he'd actually get played and the game would be far more balanced than at current.

>>181058867
TRISS COME BACK DON'T LEAVE ME HERE WITH THESE NERDS

Has anyone tried running immune boosts instead of traditional weather clear? Had any luck with it?

>>181063361
clear sky should be an actual weather effect, effecting all the rows, and eating a weather spell on each row, or canceling existing weather on a row.

>>181063397

It works okay with Ithlinne if you're playing ST. Otherwise it's not really effective. If you play a card that comes out in threes, it can worth including. I keep one in my NG deck just for golems.

>>181062976
>vaccines are just weakened versions of the disease.

And this gives her the ability to control the disease by magic how?

Epidemic is a shit bronze very flaky, Immune boosts are better than T.bolts for countering weather that 3 unit rows are susceptible too, plus fits her lore better. How exactly is this in anyway a nerf to her current kit?

>>181062049
Odrin's actually pretty fun despite those fucking poles removing PFI. Play kaedweni sergeant in melee row, he pulls out a blue stripe, Henselt (In ranged) the other 2 sergeants and blue stripes and put them in ranged and siege, then drop Odrin in melee. Not in gigni range, Odrin will bounce and +2 every turn, and with that positioning Odrin will never be the one to get gigni'd because even if he bounces to ranged row where Henselt is he bumps the other nerds up higher than himself.

Actually have a lot of fun playing a Priscilla/Odrin deck.

>>181063730
so, making her a shitty version of dethmold, except 2 points higher and taking a gold slot, is somehow an improvement.
welcome to the CDPR development team, you'll fit right in with rethaz and co.

>>181063361
>weather as a mechanic is alright
no, not like this
since open beta, all top tier cancer decks except Calveit have heavily used weather as a core element. and gold weather didn't even need to be built around before the nerf.
telling people to run more clears is not a solution without gimping your deck. and the fact that you still get punished by weather even when you have first light by 0 tempo, while the other guy at least gets 1 tick of his weather, says all too much.

weather is fundamentally broken and will kill this game if it is not changed.

>Stop playing for a week
>Turn on Gwent to see if anything has changed
>Meta is still the same

Honestly, those patches need to be faster. 20 days+ for a change (which is what is gonna be in the end) is ridiculous. That combined with very few cards every two months is gonna make it rough to keep playing this game.

I have around 100 hours, so I guess for a free game that is great, but it's disappointing that it could be so much more.

Anyone else hit a milestone rank like 15 and just stop caring about climbing the ladder as a result of the current meta and mmr system?

>>181065186
Hit Rank 15 as well, currently 2.7k

Waiting for new patch for balance changes to keep playing again.

>>181065186
>rank 16
one day it's all SK, the next it's all weather monster with SK, and then it repeats with a few streamer netdecks in between.
it's a very boring meta to play, and bears and weather just outright kill half the potential decks that could be up competing at the top.
since 4800 mmr is unattainable, there's no real reason to climb any higher.

>>181063597

What exactly is it that your suggesting changes it at current? It effects all rows, it cancels them etc By eating a spell do you suggest that it should absorb a future application because because that is pure horseshit, 1 bronze that cucks 6 whole bronze cards that can be spammed 3 times. This is reddit balance at its finest.

FL isn't the counter to single row weather effects its the counter to ragh/drought which can freely be included in any deck as it has the rally.

At most I'd argue that it could exist as a 1 strength high armor unit that sits in the mid row cancelling weather effects for 1 extra turn before banishing itself. Sitting in each row indefinitely waiting to soak a bronze card because some players are too autistic to run a pair of immune boosts and row clear cards because they don't have synergy with your deck archetype doesn't mean that weather based decks should be completely unviable.

If they proposed removing weather would you be for it?

>>181065712
rather have three choices for clear sky, rally, normal clear sky, and another version, call it whatever.
the third version would be a weather effect for a row, but it does nothing but eat one weather effect for that row, a proactive measure.

main problem with weather right now is that there is no proactive cards, only reactive, resulting always in negative tempo for those effected.

>>181063397

It works very well on 3 unit rows, better than the clears even as you can sit in it and take no damage. the same is true for wide rows with lots of different strength values, when dealing with fog/rain, these thing will work, wide rows with frost or lots of the same unit are were the row clears come in.

Honestly if you build your rows with 4 or more units wide and get fucked by fog because the values are even or simply all odds/evens then you deserve the fucking weather will give you. Same can be said for building wide rows without row clears for frost.

>>181066191
Wouldn't just having weather effects go off at the end of turn instead of start do this in a far less convoluted way?

>>181066317
problem is that weather is rarely played from hand, it's often for free, and deck thins, from other bronzes
so, good luck.

>>181066191

No proactive cards? What is Quen and Immune boost?

As for tempo, there is an argument that unless the fog/rain is hitting 5 units or your row had like 8 units for frost it can be argued that any other bronze card would generate a higher point value. Taking one tick is fine if you can limit the damage further.

Your suggestion would utterly ruin the weather system into a meme that doesn't get used until the meta slips up on including weather protection, at which point swim will make a deck that exploits it which will work for a few hours and they will be re included in the deck. It's that hard of a counter to the system.

>>181066638
you can include only so many different bronzes in your deck without fucking your mulligan.
i'd rather see more time spent on rebalancing existing cards, and fixing this shit meta, than trying to rework weather.
SK has ridiculous synergy with weather, unlike even weather monster, and there's two ways to go about fixing that, either bring down the point value of their bronzes, or spend a few hundred hours figuring out how to rework weather.

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>>181066317

It would but it would punish weather hard, if you don't want to take the first tick then use quen, as it is if a weather card only got one tick out of damage its entire use then it would be a still be a shit play.

Unless your a row stacking tard that gave a biting frost 8 targets.

>>181066482
True if they simple created the weather effect and didn't draw it from deck the weather spam would be far less powerful.

1. change: weather hits at the end the turn
2. change: frost deals 1 dmg to the highest and lowest unit on the row. ties work like fog/rain right now.

there, weather is balanced now.

>>181067050

Yeah any more than 6 different bronze cards means a fucked deck in my book, that doesn't mean you need can't fit 2 row clears and 2 immune boosts in a 3 3 3 2 2 2 deck format. Alternatively you could take 3 of both and just take less of the archetype cards.

Some players believe 7 unique bronze cards is ok and run a weird 1 1 1 3 3 3 3 bronze format with a single shackle a mushroom etc but I don't like them.

SK doesn't have any weather synergy outside of their axemen, those axemen would be far better off being reworked than addressing weather, I'd actually argue that Vabjorn would be better with the axemen ability than he is at current and would see more play accordingly, heck he would likely even be strong at that point.

>>181067503
>play Drought
>FL counters it before any damage
>play Ragh
>opponent passes at a point lead
>nonviable = balanced!

>>181067772
>SK has no weather synergy outside of axemen
shield maidens, hjalmar, the strongest bronze and gold, with absolutely no contest now that NG is dead, in the game right now both benefit tremendously from weather.
best part, bears let SK not even bother with weather at all, since they're effectively frost on all the opponent's rows for one turn, yet another balanced and fair card, just as braindead as weather.

>>181067503
This and first light should affect only one row. Then weather is balanced.

>>181068445

Maidens benefit from bears more than weather and Hjalmar from Maidens more than anything else, failing that lugos.

Bears would be better at 4 base strength as it was originally, 9 seems to be the value a bronze card needs to meet to break even and be considered a worthwhile play, bears do this too quickly.

>>181067503
>1. change: weather hits at the end the turn
Good job retard, you just made like 30 cards including golds obsolete

Weather was just fine in CB where you actually hard to think about your actions instead of I SEE UNIT I WEATHURRR

>>181067503
1. change: make weather faction specific, give Frost & White Frost to Eredin, give Fog & Skellige Storm to Dagon.

there, weather is balanced now.

1. change: weather only damages a unit down to its base strength.

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>>181070332
>Weather was just fine in CB where you actually hard to think about your actions instead of I SEE UNIT I WEATHURRR
There was always a degree of that to be quite honest family.

>BWAAAAH SK IS BROKEN

No, is currently not. If you are whining about SK you are a 2000mmr shitter. NR with 37 cards is better. The new ST deck with dwarves and movement is better, the Eredin consume deck is better.

>>181072514
But you're wrong

>>181073404
No, i'm not. SK is being countered by every deck listed there.

>>181073914
Every top deck is Skellige variant whether be it Crach an Craite or Bran

You're objectively wrong if more than 70% of the ladder is one faction and those 2 leaders total over 50% win rate.

>>181074010
Just list 1 SK which is being used on high elo ladder and I'll believe you. Because i'm on 3500mmr and every fucking deck is literally non-SK atm.

>>181072514
agreed. you faggots need to get good. monster is way more stronger faction than sk. you just can't counter sk and that's your problem. build a good deck and you are fine.

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still no patch news?
ffs CDPR, at least share some thoughts

>>181074558
It's not the deck, it's the cards.

Hjallmar either needs to be nerfed or Tibor needs to be unnerfed

This preferential treatment bullshit has to stop

>>181070332

Weather in CB was aweful, the tempo you would get was so absurd that games were won based on having the last say in the game and palying ragh/aeromancy.

If you want that back you're a retard.

>>181071006
So unbuffed cards get weather immunity. Weather is fine mechanically your decks are just shit.

>>181074906
Both need to be nerfed or an awful lot of cards need to be buffed

Iorveth is a 10 strength gold card....

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>>181074678
>share some thoughts
they already did: nuke skellige

>>181075896
I hope they nuke Skellige with no survivors

>>181074678
Yeah, they think Skellige needs to be nuked into orbit like the rest of us but you can thank consolefags

Why is every faction so boring compared to Nilfgods?

>>181076538

because their women don't bathe

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>>181076538
>dude medics LMAO also ambassador kek
whoa

do you think they will ever implement Toussaint characters ?

>>181076749

look it's the meet up between the Monster and Skellige fanbase

anyone got a screenshot of this so called 37 deck

sounds fun

>>181077097
go to gwentdb you brainlet

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> playing reveal NG against SK shiter #26141646246
> obviously have to use my gold to reveal opponent's shit
> fight hard all the way to r3
> run avallach+kambi+hajlmar+dshackles.exe

first time in 142hours on gameplay i haven't gg'd someone. nuke that faction already

>>181076749
NG has most flexible decks, prove me wrong fagget

>>181077259
>Not being selective in who you GG

The following people deserve no GG
>Tryhard ranked shitters in Casual
>Meta dick riders
>netdeckers
>weather flood cancer

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>>181077259

Just as life finds a way cancer refuses to die.

>>181077520
i always gg because there's no hard feelings this way. also makes it more likely to get gg back and i want to advance fast. but the SK cancer needs to be held down somehow, the free market will fix it the moment we stop encouraging this behavior

fuck it was a good match until r3 came up. even though he used axemen + weather he was modest on the bears i though maybe i've met a miracle man. extremely disappointing

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>>181076935

>>181077259
If you're unable to identify a kambi deck while using a deck which purpose is LITTERALY to reveal the opponent's deck, you're clearly doing something wrong.

You quickly passed r2 instead of bleeding him down to 1-2 cards, didn't you?

>>181077717

>modest on the bears

Axemeng decks don't usually bring any so if he used any then he'd be being the opposite of modest.

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>>181076935

why all the hate for monsters on /gwt/? consume are balanced and fun and weather is overrated as fuck

>>181077969
bcause a five year old can pilot monster

>>181077919
he got kambi + hajlmar on r3 only thanks to avallach

Anyone familiar with Nekker Warrior foglets?

It seems like a cool deck

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o201rozUDuQ

>>181078023
weathershit yes, consume no

not saying it's the most complex deck out there because it isn't but there is a though process to it

>>181077969

Monsters have the ability to utilise the different archetypes more readily, in turn this pisses people off as it makes them somewhat less predictable. Their cards are often powerful in and of themselves were as other factions especially ST are constricted to one archetype relying on combos and synergy.

In turn monsters becomes extremely powerful you can chuck just about any card with any other card and it will work, playing them becomes a matter of teching for the meta.

ded thread

ded game

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what shoul i chosse between gini and carantir i'm lv6

>>181081336
gigni

>>181081336

Ces deux cartes sont bonnes. Choisissez Gigni car vous n'avez pas de carte d'or.

>>181081336
you are new so neutrals are always better pick. take witcher dude with spell.

>>181081405
>>181081546
>>181081596
thanks gwent's bro

>>181081984
lugos for tasty refund, timeria dude if you have NR cards

>>181081984
>2 vilge

kek

>>181081336

Gigni is the most powerful card in the game.

>>181082228

>not holding onto cards and cashing them in when nerfed as part of a long term investment.

anon....

>Want to craft a ST movement deck
>Want to wait and mill cards when they're nerfed

What do?

>>181084560

What difference does it make the movement deck is shit?

>>181084560
i'm sitting on 1k rags and bunch of skellige cards waiting for patch

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>Get the rank 13 reward of 5 kegs
>Get a moviecard temerian infantry, moviecard overdose, moviecard heymaey skald, and regular Sweers
Thanks Shoop. u r my grettist ally

Thinking about using that Sweers for some reveal Letho memes but it's probably not worth it. Could also craft Avallach and give mill nilf a try I guess.

>>181086747

My rank 20 was Foltest and my rank 30 was renew, which I've now got 2 of. I'm holding onto it hoping it will get nerfed for double scraps but I really don't know if they even can nerf it.

>>181087125
I've had some really shit luck too. At one point I went over 50 kegs until I hit a legendary , and my level 20 was Assassination and my level 30 was Priscilla. Admittedly they were both golds I didn't already own, and I still played them since I got them and I'm not gonna let no goddamn Reddit tell me if a card is bad but they're both relatively shit.

Assassination: Mildly playable with the unending Mork and bigass axemen/monster meta but basically just a mardrome on steroids. Locking and killing Mork in one card is nice but in the grand scheme of things you're better with almost any other gold instead and using bronze or even silver slots for removal.

Priscilla: Mildly playable if you have a lot of deck thinning so you can potentially use her again, but basically just a sack of points without the swinging power of a Yen or a Trissbutt. Does tend to break up your rows to make you less vulnerable to gigni though.

>>181076152
Does Menno work on Golds?

>>181077969
wtf i hate monster now

>>181088357
No, it would be ridiculous with Letho if it did

>>181088357
No, baka, the stolen card counts as a spy

>>181087926

If they removed shackles and returned the old gold sniper cards like iorveth and triss etc then assassination would probably be NG's version. This is all a lot of what ifs though I doubt they will remove those fucking things. Priscilla could be interesting if you can replay her a lot in a thinning deck like you mentioned, but no thinning deck is complete without a ciri dash which is now a pointless card because its fucked by shackles. Demote is utter cancer.

My poor luck has been the kind of shit you would expect from some sort of biblical curse, I've been given so far an animated Triss and two regular Triss cards, a Iorveth, a Cerys, Ciri dash, Milva, Animated regis. The only good golds I got was a Yenn and a Borkh the 2 renews and all of which push me toward playing cancerous decks. Whats more my epics have been crap, I have about 2-3 per faction but somehow every single shitatael one.

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>skellige / weather shitfest every game even in casual
so long

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>Axemen/weather kambi deck player throws a shitfit when I mardrome his axeman to take round 1 and pass round 2 before he can renew Avallach, which he does anyway but doesn't get cards from it because clash

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>Have two Philipa
>No gold listed in the mill listing
What did they mean by this?

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>>181090609
the fuck

>>181090609
It's definitely bugged anon, better go add up the scrap value of all your spares 1 by 1.

>>181090609

>10k scraps worth of dupes
>4/18 golds

at £50 that 60 keg package is a steal....

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>Person who goes last in round 3 wins

Nice game

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>>181091329
Shoop are you trying to seduce me?
>>181091574
There's a reason card advantage is important anon. Having last say is a big deal.

Frost is too strong

It needs to be limited

>>181091574
>>181091771
Coin flip needs to be addressed if we want card advantage to be a big deal. Going first already puts you at card disadvantage from the start.

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What are your instant nogg rules, /gwt/?

>SK players period
>Spell'tael (you're not hard, but I'm struggling not to kill myself from boredom)
>Dandelion avatar
>emotes ever
>ropes in casual
>already gave me gg (thanks for free shit sucka)

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Why did Letho blow up Regis' boat?

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so both of these are pretty terrible but which one is the least terrible

>>181093828

Either could get reworked soon, so it's a wash. I can tell you that I've seen precisely one person play Malena, and I've literally never seen Frett.

>>181093068
why did letho cross the road?

>>181093828
malena is actually a usable card, unlike frett.
she fits into the meme movement decks that people play in casual, she's actually incredibly strong, but since she didn't get the bear treatment, she's 4 power, which makes her complete shit.
really fires the neurons why bears are 6 power, and yet this silver elf is 4.

>>181093828
As someone who has played Malena in an attempt to make movement fun, I can tell you go for Frett. Wounding/battlecry Skellige is more viable than movement Skellige and this is after I crafted fucking Iorveth to toy with it, and without having good wounding cards for Skellige like Frett.

>>181092224
if you win first round you get additional card. ez game is fixed.
too many faggots ditch first round to stack muh ebin combos and fuck you over in next 2.

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>Lose to reinforcements into witchers

EAT A FUCKING COCK YOU BRAINLET CUNT

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>>181096150
>gwent is about skill unlike hearthstone

>Queensguard mirror match
>Heading into round 3 since we both wrestled a bit but we'll each have like 4-5 cards
>My hand is shit, will be able to rez my 3 queensguard which isn't enough to pop Cerys, but I use Renew on my opponent's Cerys which as bad of a play as that is, it will put me in range to trigger my own and what I mulliganned instead was worse
>Opponent concedes
Uh... Varu? I don't think he fully appreciates how fucking shit stealing a Cerys is. People use Renew to steal my Cerys all the time and then they sit there all smug as though they ruined my master plan and didn't just get a 7 gold with no ability for a card they could use to clone their own Caranthir/Hjalmar/Leshen and it doesn't make a fucking difference.

The moral of the story is everyone is bad at Gwent but me. Thank you.

>playing Witcher 3 for the first time after 100 hours of Gwent

Feels real weird hearing all the Gwent voice lines in their original context. Are they all taken from from W3? Or were some recorded fresh?

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>>181097365
>Next game is against a chicken deck
>Win by using decoy on his Udalryk so I get last play and can bring my queensguard back out after he shackles all my golds for the chickenpocalypse
God damn it queensguard is the only thing that's keeping me entertained in Gwent any more. I normally play multiple decks per sitting like a spastic shitter but the last few nights I've played nothing but queensguard and had a blast.

>>181098885

Post dick.

>>181098496
https://soundcloud.com/gwentsounds/nt-zoltan-field-marshal-duda
probably cut the parrot for the owl

>>181099013

Huh?

>>181099570
>Are they all taken from from W3? Or were some recorded fresh?
the bird zoltan wins playing cards.

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>>181099664

What the fuck are you talking about?

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>>181099000
I can't refuse trips, but it's a dirty netdeck stolen from Tideytime. Looks clunky with relatively little deck thinning but for the most part it doesn't matter.

Bloodcurdling roar gives you sacks of points when needed and additional rez targets. Can also be used to kill shit early so you can rez it that same turn which is useful once in a while.

Immune boost helps against the fact that 90% of your opponents are playing weather.

First light is almost entirely for clear skies.

Mardrome will destroy 90% of your opponents. Almost everyone will be playing axemen which mardrome rapes the everloving shit out of, or they'll be playing that weather/consume monster deck which mardrome rapes the shit out of. Worst case scenario, wait until some of your dudes are damaged then use it on them.

Shieldsmiths should be mulliganned pretty much every time. You don't really give a shit about them but if you draw them they're tolerable.

Operator isn't a huge deal but he's useful if you bumble into him. Occasionally worth using a 1 point Freya to bring your 2 queensguard out in round 1 in the hope of drawing into Operator in round 2. Depends on the situation.

Rest is self explanatory. Raider is there just for Lugos, Draig for queensguard (Against nilf and monster spread the love as much as possible due to katakan and vicovaro. It's not game over if you lose a queensguard but no sense helping your opponent by playing into it), Holger good for Hjalmar, general fuckery, and buffing queensguard, decoy useful for a bunch of shit, etc.

>>181099882
play the game, dumb nigger

>>181099975

>probably cut the parrot for the owl

I want you to explain what the fuck this means. Here are the things I know:

1. There is a character named Zoltan Chivay who has a parrot named Field Marshal Duda.
2. This parrot has a Gwent card and thus has voice lines.

That's it. Start there.

>>181100241
With no date on the recordings, the original voice line may have been a part of witcher 3, then cut, when they potentially replaced the parrot with the owl.
Zoltan wins the owl in a game of cards, turns out it's Philippa.
Simple enough.

>>181100417

How the fuck was I supposed to know any of that when I haven't played W3 before?

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>>181098496
>playing Witcher 3 for the first time after 100 hours of Gwent

make sure you romance Trissfu

>>181100550
don't ask stupid questions then, dummy.

>>181100645

Nah, I'm a bookfag.

>Oh no, Triss. Never.

>>181100663

I explicitly stated I was playing W3 for the first time you illiterate fuck.

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>>181100873

>>181100550
this guy is retarded, Zoltan gave Field Marshal Duda to one of his boys way back before the first game. Him buying the owl in W3 is just a reference to him liking birds

Why aren't you guys playing reaver henselt? Counters the entire meta

>>181101808
sergeants require there to not be a bear on the field.
it's impossible to remove bear even with 2 bolts and dethmold slotted in.
so it comes down entirely to luck, as to whether or not SK can only put out one bear, which is a rare case.
you may as well play consume monster, same weaknesses, better matchups overall

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>hovering around 2k mmr
>everyone's dropping skellige for the 37 meme deck and other NR decks
>realize unless there's a major overhaul for NR, the 37 deck might be around for a fucking long time

on a note of discussion, what's a good monster deck that counters this bullshit? or any good strats

>>181102236
Yeah, bear counters blue stripes pretty hard.Deck is still functional without BSC in round 1, all your stuff is the same strength so you can get them out R2

>>181103780

Start running Gigni, scorch, or epidemic.

>>181103780
37 deck is just a meme, any other finely tuned NR deck beats it

>>181103780
>monster deck
Get out, cancer.

does summoning circle copy golds?

>>181105349

No.

>>181105349
No, unless you end up in the ridiculously unlikely situation where your opponent plays a gold, you play d-shackles on it, your opponent plays a non-dude card, then summoning circle will copy the gold you shackled (And it will be gold for you).

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Can Johnny select which card is copied from your opponent's deck?

>>181106446

No.

>opponent locks your ambush card nestled inbetween 4 of your units
>it's a sapper
there is no greater feeling

>>181106446
Like the other anon said no he cannot, and if your opponent doesn't have a card of that border color in his deck then you discard a card and get nothing in return. So it's theoretically possible even on round 1 to play a Johnny on a Ciri:Dash and get nothing out of it.

On the bright side, manticore is good. Boring as fuck but good.

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You're a big bear.

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>>181106935
>there is no greater feeling
There certainly is, winning games. HA HA OWNED KNIFE EAR FUCK GET OUT
>SAILS OUT OF HERE PEACE~

>>181106535
>>181107550
I got the Manticore, maybe it would work well with Katakan.

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>These ridiculously long queue times because everyone left and the game is completely dead even before release
W-we did it bros. Hearthstone is running scared

>>181107880
It works reasonably well on its own, works well with Pepe, works well with ekkimaras, katakan, kayran if you're an absolute madman. It's just a solid silver if you don't want to go for crones.

>>181106935
I can think of one,
>monsters player locks your ambush card nestled inbetween 4 of your units
>morenn flips over and kills the fiend and isn't locked.

How fast is it to climb in this game?

Been playing for a week now and hit ranked.

Went from 1100 to 2k in one night but my classes start soon again so probably can't pull off big days like that. Plus the game is still fresh for me so I feel the burn out of all CCGs might be coming soon.

How fast can I realistically climb with a 55-60% win rate from 2k - 3k?

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this game makes me feel so miserable

>>181112682
It goes to shit eventually and then you'll pull in 15-20mmr for a win, so enjoy it while it's fast. It didn't used to slow down but CDPR realized people were having too much fun so they hotfixed it.

>>181112775
Was going at about 50.

Starting to drop to 30-40.

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>All I can afford is weather
>everyone in pre rank 15 runs so much anti-weather

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I know Manticore has some fans after that #1 player included it but I have a hard time convincing myself to go for it.

>>181114931

Both are pretty mediocre. Do you foresee yourself playing NG any time soon?

Braenn is my waifu.

>>181096150
This is why people run Regis:HV

>>181115008
Braenn is very cute.
I play Reveal a bit and I might build a spies deck if the patch fixes them, but I have most of the actually good silvers.

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>shackle anything against a skellige cunt
>he has the shackle to counter it

>>181115008
>>181115079

I once made a deck centered around buffing Braenn in the hand. It was bad.

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>the skellige lock silver locks your card and takes a card from your deck

This is fucking bullshit

>>181115039
Regis:HV dont eat silver cards

>>181115039
HV only eats bronze.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAfg_4ko0o4
>TFW you have Regis, Priscilla, and Assassination
Kill me.
Maybe they'll be buffed. They buffed Bloody Baron and I own him too, and now you can't play a game of Gwent without running into a Bloody Baron deck. Good old CDPR

>>181117109
Assassination needs to be moved to being a silver

>>181115353
>Being upset at your opponent thinning your deck and increasing your chance to draw into silvers and golds
360 noscope brainletted

>>181117179
I play Henselt NR.

I dont like it when they take any of my cards

>>181117168

It's barely better than Mardomeme, a fucking bronze card. Even as a silver it would be worse than Peter since he can be decoyed.

>>181117293
Well they should make it include Shackle then,

Shackle a unit (demote and lock it) THEN kill your target

Imagine Assasination can kill Hjallmar, or Tibor

It would be a fine card

>>181117339

That could work. Might be too strong, idk.

>>181117339
It would be potentially playable but I'm still not sure it would see play. You'd really only want it as a counter against other strong golds, and specifically golds where the body is a target. Would do jack shit against a monster's "Balanced 14 point and oh yeah now you have weather damaging you so at least 16 point total" pumpkin seed, and jack shit against a monster's "Oh I just put all your dudes in one row I won't lacerate you next turn bro honest" elf, and would be questionable against a succ since it would just be marginally better than d-shackles. Maybe if Borkh was in every single deck again it would see more play but that's a stretch.

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How do I know whos cards belong to who in mirror match?

>>181118154
you cant
its a beta

>>181118154
There's a shitty workaround you have to do to figure it out. I think it's mouse over a card, hold tab, and look at the color effect around the card.

How do you nerf frost so its on the same level as Fog and Rain?

>>181118885
1 damage to the highest and lowest unit on a row.

HA HA

OF COURSE

FRIEND

>>181118885

It's already worse than rain/fog if there is only one unit on the row. Reworking it to play just like the other weathers would be boring.

>>181119050

Doesn't this kill Caranthir?

>>181119192
It's cancer

>>181119050
Then it's just fucking useless lmao, much worse than other weather effects

>>181119231
Lacerate, gigni, succ, Caranthir will be fine he's a big boy.

>>181118885

>frost only applies to melee, fog only to ranged, rain only to siege
>playing a weather card applies the effect to both sides of the board
>weather sets the power of all units on the row to 1

There, I just fixed Gwent.

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>>181119402
While you're at it, let me fix regular Regis.

>>181119485

I do wish Regis still transformed into Higher Vampire somehow. Having them as separate cards is silly.

>>181119268
How? It's the same value. If it's a single unit damage it by two since it's the highest and the lowest. Same applies if units share strength

>>181119571
Ok, in that case it would be fine. But I didn't realize you mean damage it twice if it's both lowest and highest.

>>181119568
I don't completely mind them being split off in theory so you can get the nicest alcoholic you'll ever meet and twisted fucking night-bat, but they really need to rework vanilla Regis. His lines don't even work with the flavor of his card, "I KNOW YOU'RE IN TROUBLE, I CAN HELP!" for if you're winning, win more.

To be fair it didn't fit his closed beta card that well either, but at least he was playable. Not amazing, but playable.

>>181119750
He would fit perfect as a Geralt or KoB with that voice line. But there's no room or need for another card to do that. Especially gold

>>181119750

Conceptually, I'm against the idea of having multiple cards for the same character. All the sorceresses should have three different effects to choose from like Keira or the mages. Geralt should have three signs to choose from. This makes each card more usable, adds variety and strategy to the game, and fits better with the lore.

>>181119231
Yes, and frost doge too. Frost will become just not viable.

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>bronze weather affects one row
>silver weather affects two rows
>gold weather affects three rows

>bronze mages have one spell
>silver mages choose from two spells
>gold mages choose from three spells

> play standard wild hunt eredin deck with frost everywhere all day spam a ham
> win streak
> try a reveal deck which is sneaky and interesting
> lose streak
There goes all my dignity, back to playing monsters again.

>>181122090
Post the Eredin dick, I've been trying to make something like that but SK destroys me (and so do the NR)

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>Both Drought and Torrential Rain damage the lowest unit on the row for 2
>these are opposite states of nature

>enemy taunts before winning
no gg for you.

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>>181122147
This is my current iteration, though im just a 1500 bronze scrub (thats hit even lower due to my reveal deck)
Generally, I try to force out a win on first round using a mixture of frost spam with golds and hounds.
Second round I try to get riders down and any remaining harpies so that they stick and waste cards from the opponent.
Then go all out last round.
It seems to work against a huge number of decks, mainly because weather seems to chip damage everyone way more than it feels like it should.

Currently experimenting with the immune boost for riders or harpies, and the marching orders as an alternative way to bring out wild hunt navigator without needing navigator in hand.

>>181122247
both make you drown anon

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oh geez what do

dandelion is super strong, but gaunter seems fun as hek.

>>181122743
Wild Boar :^)

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pls get rekt harder

>>181095716
That would break the game, getting a card because you won the round is retarded, now going first and not winning is even worse than before. It would make the only viable decks ones that work in long rounds, whats more your opening draw would determine the game.

>>181092224
Card Advantage isn't nearly as big a deal as before, if you win the round at a 1 card deficit then you'd reclaim that by simply dry passing round 2. The advantage from the round 1 winner is that you get to set the tempo of round 3 as you can milk the opponent.

>>181092197
Biting Frost is being directly used in one deck and that's axemen, those cards are the problem with that deck not the frost that synergises so well with them. I wouldn't say its to strong, if you have a row clear for it you'd need 8-9 cards on a row for that card to have been better than simply playing a bronze unit. The problem is hounds and Aretuza's, those cards would be far better if they worked more or less as they did but created the weather effect as opposed to drawing it from the deck. The thinning aspect is giving these incredible value.

Otherwise bronze weather effects aren't really being used, the silver ones are but that is fine. A little bit of weather is healthy it should punish and punish those that don't build their decks with counters for it, it is only when someone starts bringing 3 frosts a SK storm a White frost and an aeromancy that these problems arise. Even then if you run 2-3 row clears and 2-3 immune pots then this level of spam is counter able. You lose some power when you face weather less decks, especially if those decks lack weather counters but you stand more of a chance of beating them then they do of beating the weather spam.

At least weather doesn't set every non gold unit you have played to one instantly.

>>181095247
Iorveth makes movement decks worse, you can just play the effects on your commandos and Archers.

I am new to the game but is there a reason to make a deck with more than 25 cards?

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Is this good? Playing Fog

>>181123709

4 games of skelly out of 36?

Are you playing casual or what.

>>181122743
Dandelion lets you cheat as it shows you the next sequence of cards. Gaunter is going to turn into one of those cards that autists will master to really bugger net decks. If you can quickly work out exact compound percentages then the latter.

>>181122278
Imleriths "well played" line is as much a taunt as a compliment. Triss is similar.

>>181119485
Regis would work 10 times better if his power check happened after things like Borkh and kambi go off, as it is you can't combo the two.

>>181119485
>ciri but 5 times better
nice meme

>>181123821

There is a rumor that the games matchmaking system picks games based on the decks players are using, so if you take lots of weather counters you won't see many weather spam decks because the game would be decided at matchmaking. I'm not sure I believe it but it makes sense the more I play. If I tech option like mushrooms to deal with axemen those decks disappear and suddenly the decks for which the tech option I removed keeps appearing.

>>181123821
Above 2k MMR Skellige has vanished. And yes half these games are casual

>>181123832
>Dandelion lets you cheat
?

>>181122247
>Consume an egg
>it still hatches

>>181120030

Geralt with igni, aard and I assume you propose a new one for axii or yrden but even Quen would turn this guy into a fucking monster. 'A shame I can't aard your frontline of 5 units into that weather effect that 30 strength igni is just to fucking choice'.

Although its all a matter of opinion, I for one have no problems with a few major characters being represented in more than one card. I'm not sure that Zoltan and even more so Regis as characters are worthy of this status at the current time though, there seems to me to be far more cards worthy of over representation. You bet your ass CDPR won't back down on this one though, this allows them to make shit tonnes of cards without having to just make up lore.

>>181119750

True, I got animooted regis as my first legendary, doesn't really work anywhere unfortunately.

>>181122532
Standard Wild hunt deck
>triss
>geralt
>harpies

>>181124609
>Play Roach
>A person from Turkey doesn't spawn

>>181124774
Lmao

But still
>calling it a person
>not just a t*rk

>>181124541

Yeah the deck doesn't reshuffle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsOFUnKKFqw

>>181124456

The rules that apply at the top of the ladder do not just below it. Everyone wants to be number 1 and thinks they can get their by either playing their decks or playing something designed to counter it, the result being 50% winrates I think of it as the "aspirant meta".

The result is that the top is left untouched and their meta becomes stagnated.

>>181125067
I had to turn this off after 30 seconds because that guy is just fucking terrifying

>>181125339
don't look him in the eyes.

It's just my impression or this is the most RNG dependant meta ?

>Almost 1hr without a reply.

DEAD
E
A
D

Time to download Elder Scrolls Legends

>>181129728
Bye bye

Is he just memeing now?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwDOPZylsmY

>>181129728
lmao what a cuck

>>181124456
I'm 2.8k and played 16 games today.

6 skelly.
5 monsters
4 NR
and a reveal meme

>>181130191
seems pretty balanced desu
lmao ST

>>181130289

Everyone is teching vs skelly though.

Skelly by far and away is the king of Gwent atm.

Best silvers in the game and Best bronzes by far.

Their golds aren't at Nilfgard or Monsters level though apart from Hjalmar who is probably the best gold in the game or tied with Succ.

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>>181129728
>Elder Scrolls Legends
I know you're shitposting, but this is just straight up bullying. They've just released a very important expansion abusing one of the most recognizable franchises in video games ever and they're still 10 times deader than gwent at its most stale.
Not that it's surprising seeing as no one wants to play budget hearthstone

NR players need to fucking kill themselves, who can play that shit

hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr 4 weather clears every hand

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Is it just me or does this game have more netdecking then any other card game I've ever seen?

>>181131283
might have more than weebverse but has considerably less than hs

>>181130504
with 5 factions its pretty hard to be diverse tho
someone will always be at top
tho SK should lose some veteran effects

>>181131283
No, gwent simply has by far the least amount of card

>>181130586
I don't see why they waste time on Elder Scrolls Legends when all people want is Skyrim for the iPod Nano

>>181133602
But if I pull his mask off, will he die?

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>>181134418
It would be the extremely wrong thread

>>181133602
>>181134603
expect nothing less from frogposter

>>181135109
a picture of an amphibian is the easiest way to spot a newfag
ugly dumb frogposting scum

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>>181135109
>>181135389
It says here you guys smell

>been jerking around the whole day in ranked
>14-10
>-54 MMR
Sayonara

>come back after 2 weaks
>read bread
>still game isnt patched

lmao see you in a month maybe

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e sprots

>>181054710
>Any sekrit club/discord around yet?

https://discord.gg/QgTwkRw

>>181139274
patch coming in hot on friday

>>181130586

Nivellen card when ?

>>181139938
Proof?

>>181142743
my ass
watch burza today on swimstrim maybe he'll say something

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S9wvwQlWDQ

god gwent streamers are so fucking terrible that a faggot like swim can get the most viewers.

>>181112682
climbing to 3k takes 2 days at most if you have a 70% WR, past that, you'll start struggling

Will Swim ever acknowledge that he just makes worthless meme decks?

>>181125316
meta wasn't stagnant at all last patch, only with this patch has there been a massive decrease in activity and SK domination.
make no mistake, when lifecoach or swim play SK on stream, instead of their meme decks, the meta immediately reverts to the previous, boring state.
streamers have a huge influence right now, since the people still playing are those who watch them.

>>181129868

That is legit when comparing fog and rain, frost is typically better than both though and typically = higher win rates.

>>181146598
Lifecoach plays NOTHING but SK on stream and the meta has shifted still

My guess is that it's because players have reached #1 with monster decks

>>181147367
lifecoach and superjj started to play ST and NR decks on stream for a few days, and that coincided with the appearance of those decks on ladder

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>tfw stealing a big morsel dog with succ and they insta forfeit

>>181131283
t.blizzard employee.

>>181146598
That is gwents fault how exactly?

It's just like other games league especially, some pro plays warwick top mostly as a troll and suddenly you see 50% of games with that shit being played. Whats more half the players will only play what they see on their weekly LCS streams even though Kassadin and Olaf would make appearances at the world tournament nearly every year without any major changes to their kit.....

Most players know nothing more than plagiarism.

Last patch was bullshit too, it was very little other than spellatael, Calveit tibor bullshit, weather spamming monsters to abuse those that didn't tech against it etc. NR Reaver hunters was more of a meme than a valid deck I mean it was easy as fuck to counter and not all that strong. Perhaps play an SK deck in ranked and you'd see what I mean, you're unlikely to get 55%+ W/R over a long period of time. People are teching to beat SK hence but then end up weak as a result verses the decks they aren't teched for and stagnate at the 3k mmr range. Those that got ahead with SK before the normies caught on can play it and do well against it but you can't expect it to work to climb to the top.

The meta last patch was pretty stagnant by gwents standards, in CB patch cycles were fairly long but most leaders were viable and some leaders would have multiple decks. It started going to shit around the time the poor fucking infantry deck got nerfed and worse still when Shackles were added really sealed the deal. Even then the game had far more variety than it does now, its really fucking dire.

>>181149321
calveit never ruled the meta like SK does, and people weren't dropped the game because they felt it was unfair and stupid.
spellatael kept the meta healthy, and now that it's gone, we're stuck with one 0,5 tier faction, just one 1st tier faction, and the rest 2,3 tier.

>>181149952
I will never understand why people focus complaints solely on SK when monsters are just as much if not more broken.

Mark my words, if CDPR does what everyone seems to want and just drops the nerfhammer on SK, monsters will become the only relevant deck in the game.

opponent rage quits. hangs on rank screen. get gg but no rank points. viable game.

>>181150314
if all CDPR can manage, after waiting a few weeks to patch this shit meta, is to nerf SK, and do nothing else, then the game will die anyway. there's plenty of reworks just waiting to be done, and quite a few changes should be reverted.

the fact that rethaz pushed this patch, then went on vacation, and is still on vacation, is quite telling, and it's doubtful that gwent will go anywhere with him still at the helm.

>>181150498
What are they supposed to do when that's what everyone seems to want?

Their forums, reddit, twitch chat and even this general ONLY talk about how SK is overpowered, monsters are ignored.

>>181150572
really isn't that hard to bring the other factions up to par.
and yes, SK is overpowered, if only because everyone else has been over nerfed by comparison, and they got buffed for some inane reason.

>>181150791
Can you read?

I'm not saying SK is not overpowered. It is beyond any doubt. But so are monsters, and barely anyone seems to acknowledge that.

The players that are currently competing for #1 are all playing monsters.

What everyone should be asking is
for monsters and SK to get nerfed
OR
for other factions to get buffed

Asking for anything else is asking CDPR to break this game even further

Didn't CDPR say they were looking to buff up underused cards/archetypes in the next patch, too?

>>181151012
consume monster, just like any sergeant NR deck, is unplayable into bears, and bears aren't removable.
weather monster can barely be considered a tier one deck, and the only reason it ever took the #1 spot is because people stopped teching against axemen, since no one at the top was playing them.
people like to shout, rant, and rave about monster, but the facts are that a balance pass can easily put everyone else a lot closer than they currently are, and unlike SK, monster can actually be teched against successfully.

>eat buffed spotter with regis
>instant forfeit
kek i love this card

>>181151484
I guess you haven's seen Petrify shit all over SK players

>>181151758
>petrify meme
>counters the entire SK toolkit
that's what swim said anyway

>>181151531

Regis is the sole reason why reveal, mulligan and discard will never be good decks.

>>181152283
Petrify just managed to make a deck that takes advantage of all the best monster bronzes, silvers and golds

It's pretty much the equivalent of the old brokvar hunter/longship SK deck

He gets insane value from his nekkers for example

>>181152772
nothing new, and still loses to any bears

>>181152910
Except it doesn't

>>181153029
t. sk player

>>181153109
Just someone who actually watched his stream and isn't talking out of his ass

> People still complaining about SK

Holy shit, how long does it take to realize Monster is the most broken faction?

>>181153759
>>181153173
wtf i watch streamer now i hate monster now

>>181152373
Having those "buff whenever x" as their only viable finishers is why those decks are shit

>>181153846
But I don't watch streamers. Except maybe Garrunah for 30 minutes some nights.

I play to get 2 kegs every morning, then close the game and move on.

>>181154267
But i do, except iwhern I dont.

i too kegs and mornings, sometimes nights. next

Is Gwent still fun after building a large card collection and having some 200 hours in it?

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What's cool?
I only play SK because I'm lacking good gold cards for other factions, but I'm worried because I've almost never seen any of these played.

>>181155040
not at the moment

>>181155041
natalis is due for a rework [again] and rainfarn maybe a small buff. Kayran is fun but puts you at a card disadvantage [and was nerfed last patch]. cool art tho

Good golds for Calveit are Letho, Cahir, Avalla'ch and Renew, yes?

>>181155041

John Natalis is sadly useless, since his ability scales with your machine allies, and since there are like 1 in 10 games where your enemy plays long enough for you to make him useful he's just a golden Stammelford's Tremors

Kayran is the Tibor of Monster, you can fuck your enemy over in round 3, especially if you combo him with the Crones, but he's also not THAT great

Rainfarn is mainly for deck thinning, and really good in a meme deck like Swim's Canterella Letho combie

i'd pick

Rainfarn > Natalis > Kayran

but everbody else would recommend you

Kayran > Rainfarn > Natalis

>>181155442

depends what the focus of your deck is

i find Tibor still too good to get rid of him

>>181155240
>>181155739
Thanks, I picked Rainfarn.

>>181150314
>>181150498
It's probably going to happen. SK's dying off anyway naturally but CDPR's going to show up late to the party, nerf them even more, then mosey on out as monsters go from 60% of all games to 80%.

If the patch included buffs for under played cards too there would be a slight chance things might get changed up, but considering the long fucking song and dance they made for the last patch and considering we haven't had a single "HEY GUYS WE'RE PATCHING OUR VIDEOGAME GET HOYYYYYYYYP!!!!!!" stream from them I would be surprised if the patch is anything but kicking Skellige in the balls.

>>181155990

now go out and make those Netdeckers furious for not having Gigni in their deck

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>Played Gwent in closed beta and constantly through open
>Only just noticed that Zoltan strengthens instead of boosts, and Ge'els puts the card you don't pick on top of your deck
Jesus. JESUS. I thought Ge'els was good when I thought he shuffled the other card back in, but that's obscene. Fucking monsters.

>>181157081

wasn't it Dandelion that showed you your whole deck and didn't shuffle it afterwards?

http://store.steampowered.com/app/320430/Ascension_Deckbuilding_Game/

Somebody stop me hurting myself and spending $5 on a card game that apparently barely runs on modern computers.
It's a shame that it sounds like such a turd since it's right up my alley. Probably end up buying it anyway.

>>181154645
Are you ok, anon?
Sounds like a stroke.

I've been shitting on Monsters for months. It's the faction that has changed the least in the change from CB to OB.
Don't really watch streams, so I have no idea what the streamers are saying.

>>181157671
Never heard of this game. It's from 2014 and has mixed reviews on steam. It's probably completely dead so you'd be playing a card game vs shitty AI.

Just go jack off instead and call it a day. Save yourself time and money.

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my men know the meaning of Sacrifice

>>181160496
I love this guy's accent. Where is it from?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM5FGmdbOiI

>>181156928
>then mosey on out as monsters go from 60% of all games to 80%
most likely gonna happen. so done with this game. I feel regret for those 100hrs.