/agdg/ - Amateur Game Development General

next jam should be cockjam in honor of OP

Go! Dot!

third for gogem "pro"

>>180769208
the "pro" stands for "production", not "professional"

Which one is easier to learn/understand?
Gamemaker Studio
Godot
Only maybedevs and above should reply to this.

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Looking for an artist?
I'll check back in an hour, to check for serious responses.
Please include the time you've been working on your game, how many others you're working with, previous games, engine being used, genre or comparable games, free or commercial.
Looking forward to working with you.

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>gamasutra articles insist every single developer will fail
>steam still has lots of games and developers make sequels

>>180769278
RPG Maker

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Do people still dev in flash?

>>180769313
i was only kidding
please leave my thread thank you

>>180769208
>>180769267
It's actually the old greek meaning for pro, "before". He's not an amateur, he's the status before that.

>>180769390
gogem PRO

>>180769350
I said maybedevs AND above,

>>180769318
It would be bad PR if they displayed the uncountably infinite landscape of failed or abandoned projects.
The chances of success are so close to 0 they just call it

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best engine to use for a lo poly walking sim? THAT ISNT FUCKING BLOATED AS FUCK FOR WHAT I WANT FUCK YOU UNITY

>>180769318
The amount of indie devs with only one game on steam is disturbing.

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shit progress

+ the game name is Youali
+ parallax backgrounds

>>180769313
about 6 months, just me, first game, godot, rpg/tactics, wouldn't think of monetizing until much later if ever, mostly a casual learning experience

>>180769670
godot (no memerino)

>>180769278
GS obviously you maybedev

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>>180768984
At the moment I have:
lerp(positionA, positionB, Time.DeltaTime);
Which goes from fast to slow.

When reversing the inputs to get:
lerp(positionB, positionA, Time)
it jumps immediately to the position...

What did you mean by this?

>>180769776
Background shouldn't move when the camera is not moving

Is this all just a waste of time?

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>he only interpolates linearly

>>180769948
Thought you meant lerp from two velocities, not locations, my bad.
No idea why it goes from fast to slow in that case but maybe it has to do with the fact you're using Delta Time instead of Delta Time/Total time you want the lerp to last.
If you want the lerp to go from slow to fast, then your alpha should grow exponentially.

>>180770297
I think it's implied that the camera is moving with the player to keep them in center frame.

>>180770669
Time you enjoyed wasting was not wasted

>>180770297
>>180770693

Yes. the background is fixed to the camera

>>180770669
if you enjoy gamedev as a hobby encompassing a wide net of skills, then obviously not.
if you have been under the assumption that this is a viable career, then you are retarded and obviously yes it is.
Depends on your priorities.

>>180770693
>>180770867
I mean at the beginning and end of the webm, when the character is moving towards/away the center of the screen.

>>180769278
Gamemaker studio

>>180771023
Looks like it's implying speed.
Lots of games do what the webm is doing. Sonic Advance to name one.

>>180769318
>>180769687
>work on project whenever you have time
>weeks, month and maybe even years pass but it's coming along nicely
>use your savings or take a tiny loan to finance your companies founding
>sell first game
>make 5-6 figures
>holy shit we are rich
>get a giant loan from the bank
>rent a flat in downtown
>hire gay Feng-shui master to furnish your studio
>hire 3D designer(s)
>hire level artist(s)
>hire network programmer(s)
>hire full time community manager
>money reserves dwindling fast
>suck publisher cock to finance your "studio"
>12 month in and nothing to show
>go bankrupt and become code-monkey for EA

>>180755031
Monolith dev did like 000000 marketing. I never expected it to "succeed" to begin with. whatever that means.

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>all of his random numbers are pulled from a uniform distribution

>>180771284
thank you for reposting

>>180771168
Maybe it's the lack of background elements combined with the walking animation then, because I really don't see "speed" at the beginning and end there. It looks like the camera is waiting for the character to get to the center of the screen to follow him.

>>180770684
Maybe I'm approaching the problem wrong. Someone suggested using Lerp to implement acceleration of character movement in a 3D platformer, but I've read that Lerp is meant for a constant speed change rather than gradual.
Would lerp not be the best way to implement acceleration?

>>180771437
well it was the end of the thread baby.

>>180771512
Looks like it. The parallax is really subtle.

So my friend had a game idea and I made prototype out of it and its actually fun, the only problem is that he's a lazy ideasguy so i would have to do all the work for him

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guess the game

-the mechanics are based off of a jojo episode
-the title is a song which isn't from a jojo episode
-it's something that comes out your mouth

"shit" has already been guessed

>>180772085
crazy talk

>>180772085
no

>>180772085
I don't understand the question

>>180769006
anyone here uses unity?

I can't find anywhere how to make the game end (go to another scene repeat current scene whatever) when an object gets out of camera (touches any side of the camera) any help please?

>>180769175
lewdjam cockjam it's all the same to me

>>180772623
cumjam

>>180771546
Lerp just means that if your alpha goes from 0 to 0.3, it will have the same amount of changes as it would have from 0.7 to 1.
If the alpha goes from 0 to 1 in an exponential fashion, then it won't seem linear.
Other ways to do that result would be to add 1 to your location at the first frame, then 1.2 at the second, then 1.6, and so on until it reaches the amount you want.

Again I don't really understand why you would lerp locations, velocities would work better because then if something collides mid movement, it'll push back your character.

just got a shelf for my mic, quick gimme something to read record to test it

>>180772443
well changing scene is easy. What you want to do is a check in lateupdate to see if you can still see your character (or maybe have colliders), and if not then change the scene to whatever next scene needs to be loaded.
I suggest looking at example of camera occlusion (will show you how to have a camera that checks if it can see the character) and then some simple scene controller examples.

>>180772736
What's alpha?
And I'm not sure what the "proper" way to use it is; the official Unity tutorial lerps two locations.

>>180771284
Do you know what they did for marketing? I never heard anything about the game from anywhere. Did he try viraling it to the Issac community?

Are AIComponent movement commands only supposed to work when they're being called every frame? If I call them once, the actor moves for about two seconds and then just stops.

>>180773273
Alpha is the third value you're using to go from A to B. No idea how it works in Unity but in UE4 it's supposed to be between 0 and 1.
The thing about velocity and location is more of an opinion than an absolute truth, I know nothing about Unity.

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I've been playing the GB Donkey Kong and it inspired me to mess around with making a platformer again.

In GMS2, is the best strategy for collisions still the for loop that subtracts velocity until your trajectory doesn't cross through an object anymore? Or did they improve the built in physics enough to be usable?

>>180773142
What I mean is I have absolutely no idea how to detect whenever an object is still visible to the camera.

I've read something about "Renderer.isVisible" but I have no idea whatsoever how to use it.

>>180774297
>ripped from
>give credits
Always gets me

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>i'm done much of the programming and need to actually make levels

>>180774680
Yeah, haha. I like to take old gb graphics when I'm just dicking around with stuff, so I'm glad someone ripped it, at least.

>his game has "levels"

>>180774795
But I love making levels

>>180774457
You could look here at the 2 "NearCliPlane" videos, that should be a good solution for you. Here it will fix the camera if something collide with the created plane, you could simply do whatever you want instead of something collide.

https://www.3dbuzz.com/training/view/3rd-person-character-system/enhanced-character-system

>>180774968
I hate making levels/content. I just want to program stuff and have someone else make levels with my tools.

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I unironically want my game to look like this. I just can't put my finger on why it's so appealing.

>>180775054
That was the golden age of PC and online gaming.

>>180775054
It's appealing for two simple reasons.
1. Nostalgia
2. Lack of visual clutter

I love going back to the original Deus Ex because I can immediately identify every salient feature in the environment thanks to the simplicity of the game's geometry. New games are packed to the gills with bullshit that just serves as visual noise.

>>180775054
It was the lovely era when developers could use photographs as textures with basic lighting but not cover everything with vaseline.

>>180775121
>>180775342
>>180775717


I'm thinking to keep the simple low res diffuse maps and 2017ify it with pbr.

>>180775342
>immediately identify every salient feature in the environment thanks to the simplicity of the game's geometry
This

>>180773101
The whole thread

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>>180769948
DeltaTime is evil

Even if the engine forces you to use it

>>180773101
the plane scene

>>180775342
>Lack of visual clutter
this

>>180775342
That's why I like old school platformers and nintendo games. 4k HDDD Super Hyper Mega Texture you-can-see-the-hair-follicles graphics were a mistake.

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>300 dollar short of 4000 before his mommy shoves in 1000

PLEASE HELP

>>180776050
>DeltaTime is evil
As expected of a reaction image shitposter you're full of shit.

>>180776918
epic fukken epic

>>180776918
living the dream

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>need to save the render target to a texture so I can export it so I can open it in gimp so I can make it seamless before importing it back
Unreal is weird at times.
I feel like the foam is kinda weird though, I'm gonna try to make it fade away after a distance and maybe give it some depth as well.

>>180775003
Ok I already found out the culprit, I thought I was going crazy.

turns out
void OnBecameInvisible()
Is not only looking for the game camera but also for the editor camera for some fucknows what reason and I was not registering as I was still locking at the object in the editor.

When I closed the tab it started to work instantly.
Still thanks for the help.

>>180776918
will 5k even be enough it seems like a small amount for a kickstarter

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>>180777456
its enough for a block pushing puzzle game in 2017

>>180777456
Depends if he pays rent and shit

>>180776918
>6 days
Should be fine, right?

>>180777103
>need to save the render target to a texture so I can export it
Imagine if you were a non-dev, you'd pull some shit like trying to get the camera 90 degrees perpendicular and using printscreen

>>180777314
Unity is full of little 'gotchas' like that

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>>180777623
>>180777573
>>180777456
p-please help.

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>>180776978
>I like random physics in my game

If you want stable physics you should have a fixed time-step

You should only use DeltaTime if you want to meausre the frame rate so you can update the game's logic n times per frame, rather than moving the objects n pixels.

Maybe this will explain better: http://isaacsukin.com/news/2015/01/detailed-explanation-javascript-game-loops-and-timing

And I hope you like my reaction image this time you dipshit

fucking anime

>>180777850
speaking of visual clutter

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>>180775342
>>180775717

Here's a WIP of my nightclub level. I'm not sure on how the textures and lighting are gunna mesh so I'm going to redo my killhouse level and try and make it nice and clean

shes gonna look better with hair right?

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>>180777623
>Imagine if you were a non-dev
I kinda am, I've never released anything and only had two other projects which never went past "playable/barely playable" before that.
It's just a matter of knowing your limits and researching, having an inflated ego very often leads to failure.

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fug>>180778867

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>>>/v/381833238

look at him shill fucking failing kickstarter on /v/ how desperate.

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>>180778797
nice screenshot

No bullying

>>180779041
ayy

>>180777965
>You should only use DeltaTime if you want to meausre the frame rate
So you know you're full of shit you stupid anime reaction image shitposter

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>>180779041

>>180779041
Show Topology.

>>180779041
>ZombieGirl
She's just decaying, don't worry

>>180779041
No, she is not

>>180773282
he didn't do shit man. thats the thing.

>>180779041
>not posting the wireframe
???

>>180772085
what is it?

just cut my game into pieces

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>>180779408
sorry, here's a better pic

>>180780441
and sell as DLC

>>180777965
just because your physics is locked to a fixed framerate doesn't mean the rest of your game has to be

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>>180780436
it's rather stiff, and has to move quickly

>>180776918
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_MLe15qN_M

>>180780920
death grips game when

>started a game recently
>making good progress, kinda coming together

I dunno if I can make this demo day. But I will try.

>>180781450
What kind of game?

>>180769208
>>180769267
it's produce you absolute baka
googumproduce.com -> gogem.pro

>>180769390
things that flash can do that nothing else has taken on: native vector support for sweetass infinite resolution art with low filesize

one no one funded me
two no one funded me
three no one funded me
four no one funded me
one (someones got to give)
two (someones got to give)
three (someones got to give)
woooooooooooooooooaaaaa
LET THE BOKUBES HIT THE FLOOR
LET THE BOKUBES HIT THE FLOOR
LET THE BOKUBES HIT THE FLOOOOOOR

>>180776918
it must hurt a little bit.

>>180781658
And produce means fruits and vegetables

>>180780907
Like what? The visual effects?

>>180781658
You can do that with a C++ thing, Edmund's game The End is Nigh uses it.

>>180781996
also dairy... it's not actually part of the definition that it's purely agricultural, thats just a thing that happened, only thing stopping it from being more general is people not using it, im using it.

>>180782180
>C++
nah im good, i like actually making my games instead of "hiring" people like Ed.

>>180782180
>expecting gaycum.bro to know shit about code.

>>180781917
i'm already convinced my game aint shit, so no pain.

>>180782369
you realize flash and unity games dont code themselves right?

>>180782530
oh boy you tell me how hard menus are, you're the specialist here

>>180782094
yee
in particular tweens/character movement/camera movement benefit hugely from more frames

>>180779556
shut up delete this you piece of shit

>>180775054
>forward grip
>model acts like it's not even there
So many fucking games do this in the modern day that it's fucking infuriating.

>>180783232
At least they had the excuse. But now, all that processing power and time goes to making sure you can see the individual threads in the Kevlar vest rather than making more animations and gameplay.

>>180783521
I said modern day. Obviously there was an excuse for back then but shit like CoD or Battlefield still fucking do it.

Yo /agdg/ how's ur day today? Good dev for u all

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>>180784324
I super, thanks for asking.

>>180784324
I just started my game desu senpai.
wrote the obj loader, camera, shader and texture loaders. Just starting to work on physics. I've never done physics before. Wish my luck.

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I've got a math question for you guys. If I have a starting position and an ending position, say 0, 0 and ending at 10, 5. All I know are those two coordinates, and I know that the final coordinate is a collision.

One method is to go back pixel by pixel from x, then from y, until I'm not hitting anything, but that's inaccurate. How do I back up along the line itself, instead of horizontally and then vertically? I have to do trig, right? Then go back 1 pixel along one line, then a value less than 1 for the other based on the angle. Attached is a shitty drawing of why I care.

If Mario is at 0,0, and he's got a horizontal velocity of 10 (going right) and a vertical velocity of 5 (going down), then he should just land at 10,5. However, using a common method of checking horizontally, then checking vertically, he'd hit the block and not go far enough right.So it's better to check at the position he's heading, then dial back from there. It plays better with diagonals and slopes. Does that make sense or am I making shit up?

>>180785175
You have a sad life.

>>180785175
Good job anon. This will really help advertise the game and improve the marketability!

>>180785175
>all that gay asian porn in the related field
lul

wow, bokube actually made me realize how kickstarter works since its the first time I participate
>expect to pay
>you actually dont pay UNLESS it goes through

Now I feel silly, but now I cant understand all these people complaining about kick-starter if they lose nothing when a project fails.

>>180785042
Keep the progress, anon!

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lets be honest now, that 5 grands from the kickstarter is going straight to bokujew pockets. There is nobody that dumb that believes publishing a game cost this much, right?

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Where can i go to request pixel art?
The link in the OP doesn't have what i need and i have a feeling my artistic skills (pic related) aren't gonna cut it

>>180785951
clearly they are going to programmer and polishing funds.

>>180785951
More like more unity store purchases.

>>180785950
I will my dude, thanks, right after a few hours of procrastination.

How many hours do you dev per day? I'm aiming for 5 hours but right now my average is about 2:30 which is pretty meh.

>>180785951
have to pay for adobe suite

>>180786418
0

>>180786418
Around 2-3h

>>180786418
About the same as you, but I'd be lying if I said I was really hitting the grindstone the whole time I worked.

>>180786418
Somewhere between 0 and 16

>>180784324
It's been a good day finally got a desk in my room so now I can stop devving on my bed.

>>180785175
JUST

>>180786810
i like deving laying down, no back problems.

How do I build into demons scar? Does dex affect the spellbuff? I was told it does but it doesn't seem to even affect the AR on mugen

>>180787452
I don't speak nerd, sorry

>>180787452
DEX only affects casting speed. Spell buff is affected by upgrading your weapon.

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>>180787452
Wrong general motherfucker.

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>>180787452
Whoops, wrong thread

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Fixed the "aliance" from the main menu, found a way to put prices on the buttons, the price goes up if you buy shit and it takes money away
got put a mensage when you dont have enough money

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No memeing, when making a metroidvania style game is this character to visible screen ration alright? Should the character be smaller? I would like to still show some detail on the character but it still needs to be playable visually.

>>180788202
jfc, i though dead cells had a high ratio but this is absurd

>>180788202
2big

>>180788202
In most metroidvanias that screen height isn't even a full jump height

>>180785954
anyone?

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>>180788289

>>180788202
nigga you cray

I'm currently just an ideafag.
Ive done concept art, scripts for characters, flowcharts for dungeons, and so forth but I realized I'm missing a critical gimmick.
I wanted to do a 3d zeldalike, that takes it's time from the early builds of OoT and games like ico or shadow of the colossus. Foreboding and spooky.
But I realized all the Zelda games have a core gimmick beyond item based progression. Time travel or world switching or wind control. And I'm missing that.
If you were making a Zelda game, what's your gimmick?

>>180787280
I do too, but its just too easy to fall asleep.

>>180788738
start with Pong

>>180788738
You can turn into a variety of liquids.

Make a new thread so i can be first.

>>180788738
Don't make a zelda game esp if you haven't made a game before
that's basically mmo-tier scope

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>>180788738
You play as pic related.

>>180788738
Before you start making your zelda clone. Why not start making a small 3d platformer or something smaller first?

>>180788861
>>180789050
I've made a handful of small unity games and a few combat demos in ue4. Really I just want to make 1 dungeon and a cool cinematic and get the idea out of my head, because its driving me crazy.

How can I make megadrive-style music?

>>180788202
>is this character to visible screen ration alright?
If your game is Mega Man Zero then fine. Otherwise no.

>>180789080
give me your VSTs

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trying out some textures
I'll finish it tomorrow my eyes are fucking hurting

>>180789671
>brick texture
now I want a game that is literally just that windows maze screensaver

>>180789869
They look like boards to me.

>>180789080
I bet her hugs feel really comfy

>>180789201
I should have called myself an ideaguy, I've made a number of small games just for fun and practice, but I can't get these designs out of my head and I want to do something with them.

>>180775053
Make an in game level creator like Lode Runner's or Battle City's but with a saving and sharing feature.

>>180789419
A-anon I am clean

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What were other /agdg/ kickstarter attempts besides bokube?

>>180791625
Magic Meisters

>>180791654
which one?
What a fun time though.

Started writing a text adventure engine yesterday, hopefully, will be complete by Wednesday

wow 6 twitter followers,

>>180792875
>6 twitter followers
>they're all bots that auto-follow people who use #gamedev tags

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>>180793016
Why are bots so cruel?

>>180793016
don't they have human subscribers?

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>>180788289
>>180788387
>>180788427
>>180788620
>>180789272
Now?

>>180793516
Much better.

>>180792875
who are you anon, I'll follow you if you post progress

>>180794090
https://twitter.com/ca3games

>>180782343
that's too many layers of meme for me so I'll just ask, what the fuck are you saying?

>>180794167
ah yes you, perfect then

>>180785042
good luck
for physics there's no shame at least taking notes from other physics setups if not copying them and then making them work

I'm a web developer. I make webapps and shit like that. I code complex shit for a living. How hard is making a game, really? I would think that the art and music is the roughest part for anyone.
How long have you all been working on your games, and do you think you'll monetize?

>>180785954
you can try the Discord
people have talked up tigsource, not sure if it'll help with that or not

>>180786418
ever since I got an actual job it's averaged out to something like 45 minutes to an hour a day, it varies a lot depending on how heavy my workload is

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>>180794595
>makes complex shit
>cannot into games
Are you some sort of maybedev or something?

>>180787590
fuck me, even costume drag is hot somehow

>>180794830
I've never tried to make a game at all I'm just wondering are you guys all jacking off doing nothing in here or are any of you successful at selling? And how hard is the dev process aside from knowing code?

>>180794956
The only hard part is not spending every waking second shitposting

>>180794956
You only get an answer to the first question
http://www.homph.com/steam/

>>180788738
I kind of think all the good ones have already been used by past Zelda games, at least the ones that fit well into the tone and setting
for your game, IDK
you might even be able to copy one and tweak it and have people not call it a rip-off
can you be more specific? this is a fantasy world, right? what kind?

>>180794956
Yup we're all a dumb of dumb jackoffs with underdeveloped brains so you might as well go back to wherever you came.

>>180785254
You're talking about collision detection which is usually calculated on every frame. There's no good way to know that you didn't hit something in between without checking every step of the way

>>180795154
that can't be all the agdg games there are?

Don't reply to stupid bait
Don't fall to stupid bait
>>180794595
>>180794956

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lol name this creature

I'd like to make a game like Sokobond, Spacechem, Chime, Stardew Valley, etc. A 2d game with simple mechanics and simple graphics but perfectly polished and deep game play. How many hours am I looking at here?

>>180795827
green man

>>180795827
Russia's president

>>180795827
Mud Demon (Lv1 )

>>180795390
(((steam)))
some of them arent even agdg games

>>180795930
>Sokobond, Spacechem, Chime, Stardew Valley
Those games are nothing alike. That said, 2-5 years if you want to make something worth playing, but the game design skills you'll need will take longer to develop, with dozens of dead prototypes along the way.

Also this general has the best baits because there are genuine uninformed newfags too

>>180795434
I'm not baiting, this just seems like a dumb hobby to have if you can't get your game out there. It takes hundreds or thousands of hours and if nobody plays your game it's pointless.

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>>180795827
hmm

>>180795930
>Stardew Valley
>simple game with simple mechanics
Anon...

>>180795827
SOMEBODY

>>180795827
give him pointier ears and less human hands and you've got a goblin.

at the moment he is merely >>180795970

>>180795827
Ogroid

>>180795827
ONCE

>>180796010
Look who is it again, the low chart. Let's have a 30 minute video skype conversation, record and it let the internet judge who has a boring, generic game. I'm a top dev mothafucka, mothafucka. I bet you have a fatal error at the thought of even interacting with a sprite in GMS/Godot . Go back to the 0$-funded patreon.

>>180794167
Oh you, that's because people here want to see your progress not the sick shit you fap to.
Keep your gamedev blog gamedev related and you won't lose followers.

>>180796436
>Let's have a 30 minute video skype conversation, record and it let the internet judge who has a boring, generic game.
that's a very precise request. i'll consider it.
literally who?

>>180795930
Approximately 40,000 hours.

>>180796574
literally topper chart.

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>>180796468
>black shell media has rebbloged your photo

>>180796719
im not familiar with "topper chart", post a webm/image to remind me who

>>180796110
The first 3 games are alike in that they have no story, no gimmicks, no extra BS bonus whatever, they are just one game mechanic taken to its limits and that is the game period. I admire those games a lot

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>>180795827

Fantasy Nigger

>>180797007
>>180797007
Why'd you toss in Stardew then? Designing one of the first three is arguably harder. You have to really have your game design down if you're making a focused thing. Stardew Valley really only takes time and dedication. It's not a tightly focused game.

Is playing with the code for Pong in Godot a decent way to learn the engine? Like add scoreboard, make it resizeable, or add sound effects?

>>180797353
Anything that gives you a deeper understanding of what the variables and functions that you're looking at mean.

>>180797353
Making pong and expanding it a bit is always the first step for a gamedev.

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>be bokudev
>get 4k in fundings
>be monolithdev
>have 98% positive rating & lots of downloads
>be cuckgem
>2 players in the last 24 hours, 0$ patreon, mixed rating, +90% added price to his game, barely passed positive sign in sales

>>180797319
Stardew is grouped like that in my mind because no part of it feels 'extra' or tacked on. It all feels like it belongs and nothing is missing nor extraneous

>>180795157
Fair point.
My basic concept is based around acquiring the 4 primary weapons: a sword, a hammer, a spear, and a special shield.
Each on is in one dungeon and you have to switch between them in combat to deal with enemies, and outside of combat they offer different puzzle solving or traversing utility.
for example, you need the spear to knock a heavy enemy off its horse, then the hammer to crack its armor, and any weapon to finish it off. Then youd have to use the hammer to solve puzzles similarly to the megaton hammer from OoT, or crack through certain walls and floors. The spear isnt just good for stopping charging enemies, you also use it as a lever to activate certain switches and so forth. I suppose I could just use the 4 weapons as the main gimmick. but that feels kinda dry.

>>180797224
a Nogre?

>>180785254
>>180795305
it's not just that, it's also collision resolution
that poster's right though, you should be checking for collisions as often as you can (usually once per frame), that alleviates a lot of the issues
as for resolving them, I use the direction the object was traveling in, or sometimes which side of the collided object it's closer to, to determine where to put an object after it collides with something, and then I apply it for every type of collision on every object once per frame
that sounds like a lot but I'm sitting around 100 FPS idle and, IDK, close to 90 in action

>>180795930
>How many hours am I looking at here?
[ideaguy] hours, and also [coding] hours on top of that
you'd need to find a good set of mechanics (which can take literally any amount of time) and then you have to code it really well (the length depending on which mechanics you use, but anywhere from a weeks to a few years)

i've made a mistake, i need to plan my shit instead of just coding when i feel like it, had a problem with coroutines due shitty organisation, i need to start from scratch, glad i've learned something from the struggling, making a logic loop for a turn based game is easy, designing it to take animations into consideration is not.

what libraries do I use for making games in java?

>buy Hollow Knight
>geos are often invisible
Thanks, Unity.

>>180798493
I think 4 is a bit big for a central gimmick but I could be wrong
there is the opportunity to make them more multi-functional than Zelda ever did because even in the earliest games it expected you to have ten or a dozen permanent items, if you do that well and play it up you should at least get a good critical reception, a lot of critics just eat up focus and refinement

>>180799596
I like the idea of a simple set of tools and coming up with clever problems to solve with them. for example, BotW's 4 runes being so multifaceted.

>>180799369
I have my logic triggered by the animation engine

MVC is a meme

>>180799520
>experience bug
>bitch on agdg instead of support/bug report forums
thanks consumers

>>180797571
>hey boku look on the bright side
>hey mono look on the bright side
>hay gogem be as depressed as me
please dont insult boku and mono like that, they're doing things with their life too and are deserving of your outwardly expressed self-hatred.

>>180800101
Monolith-dev isn't a punk-ass bitch
bokudev isn't anywhere near as much a punk-ass bitch as you

>>180799816
i just found out that SIT-linux on steam hasnt been working at all since day1 because steam people who check this shit didnt check this shit and not a single linux user bothered to report.... i assume all 27 just refunded... probably didnt even leave a refund note.

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>>180797571
cant make this shit up

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Would it be a good idea to stream the game music from YouTube rather than include it with a game?

>>180801126
what the fuck

>>180801126
Yes

>>180800437
Lots of games just stay broken on linux because there's nobody to get super salty about it
the last time I even thought about contacting the devs was when enter the gungeon broke and I already had like 50 hours in it

>Kepler's first law: The orbits of the planets are ellipses, with the Sun at one focus of the ellipse.

If I want a random orbit, I can pick a random minimum and maximum for the distance my planet is away from its sun during orbit.
Using those, I can calculate the major axis of the orbit as min + max distance.
I can calculate the minor axis by doing √(major^2 - (max-min)^2).

Now that I have the major and minor axes of my ellipse, I can calculate the coordinates of a given point at angle r from the ellipse's center as such:
x = major * cos(r)
y = minor * sin(r)

Seems correct, right? But why the fuck do I end up with orbits whose maximum distance from the sun is over twice as large as the max i originally specified?

I feel so handicapped when it comes to maths. Even when I look this shit up and double-check it still falls over.

>>180801126
>want to play game offline
>PLEASE CONNECT TO THE INTERNET FOR MUSIC

I can see that going down well.

>>180801126
innovative

>>180801203
i dont understand this, minorities gotta speak up for themselves more than the majority, if you're all shybois just get windows already.

>>180801126
Something that gurglegem would do and probably fail.

>>180799369
>>180799753
I've also had trouble with making a turn based game that also has animations.
I still don't know how to make it right.

>>180801237
just divide your major axis by 2. You use the semimajor axis when calcing orbits.

>tfw getting retweeted more
>tfw they're all still bots
at least I'm getting somewhere?

>>180802637
basically you need to keep a split between animations and the state changes they represent, and you've got to make state changes composable
the easiest approach imo is the command pattern and stick each animation and state change into a command stack. to undo you just pop off the stack until the last player input

>>180802708
Holy shit that's it, thank you so much!
Why do we use the semi-major here though? All calculations I've seen seemed to just be using the major, so idk why I didn't run into this earlier.

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>>180803242
>>180802708
progress gif as thanks

>>180803242
idk what you're looking at.

Think of the semi-major axis as like the radius of a circle and the major as the diameter. It's pretty rare you ever need the major, in my experience.

>>180803389
Good luck, all my prototyping with orbit games have died painful deaths somewhere around transfer burns.

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Not really dev related but I thought about sharing this custom css with you guys

Works best with Tomorrow, aliased effect included in Windows 10 at least


body {
font-family: "ヒラギノ角ゴ Pro W3", "Hiragino Kaku Gothic Pro", メイリオ, Meiryo, "MS Pゴシック", sans-serif;
font-size: 18px;
color: white;
background-color: #021;
}

.reply {
background-color: #132 !important;
}

>>180803918
that hurts my eyes

why would you want an aliased font?

>>180804095
for the weeb appeal, I could tell that even without the spoiler text, shit looks uncannily like 2chan

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>>180803918
>that font rendering

>>180804645
because moon runes has A E S with aliasing. Regular human words does not.

>>180803596
My orbits aren't real-time, they're static ellipses and only dependent on the location of the thing they're orbiting around. They're not a primary mechanic of the game. Sorry to disappoint!

>>180804713
found the guy watching Preacher

where is physics box man dev.

>>180805701
@fleech

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>>180805672
>mfw S02E1 came out

Thanks anon, now I have something to watch again

>>180801126
This has been my idea, basically Grooveshark in the game

I honestly think the limits could be tested.

Is it okay to play an URL in the background? Why not? It's just doing what you can do in a browser?

What if I "recommend" the player use the in-game browser to listen to a song on youtube? What if I get an in-game character telling them to go there?

If some of those are wrong, what if I do the exact same things - but recommend people use their external browsers to listen to a song or playlist while playing? Surely that's not an offense.

the grey area is interesting to me

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Collab recruitment
------------------------

Deadline of project: 31 July

Openings:
-Programmer - tasks include graphical programming, feature programming and markup based scrip programming
-Artist - tasks include icons for characters and items. Pictures for scenes which are about 200x900 in size.
-Musician - composing ambience music.

At current state I am doing programming and writing. If a programmer joins, I can focus more on writing. I can still help out the programmer tho.

What's the game about:
Sci-fi setting. Half-way between an interactive story and an RPG. Main focus of game-side is about trying to scrape by to buy food and stuff for party and trying to repair one's "piece of shit" ship which should have been decommisioned long ago.

Interactive story side of this project is from where the money is taken from to do the repairs and buying food. These are quests which are implemented as micro-VN's. Those micro-VN's utilize shipmates. Remember the last mission in Mass Effect 2? That is the direction I am taking it, without the 3D shooter gameplay.

Contact:
[email protected]

>have to make a tutorial level

why is my mind so against this? I've been procrastinating and avoiding it. I just don't want to do it for some reason. But I don't see why.

sorry, just sperging out

>>180785797
I've never backed a kickstarter and knew that's how it worked. Did you never bother to read their website?

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>>180807679

>>180799423
please respond

>>180807679
Why would anyone collab on someone elses game when all they have is writing, and expect work to be done for free by the end of next month?

You need to pay if you expect people to be interested in that. Otherwise learn a real skill, writing isn't one.

>>180807679
if you do writing post a writing sample
if you do programming post a previous game
this is not super complex

>>180807679
What engine do you use?

>>180775342
>I love going back to the original Deus Ex because I can immediately identify every salient feature in the environment thanks to the simplicity of the game's geometry.
>New games are packed to the gills with bullshit that just serves as visual noise.
I guess this is why so many developers feel the need to put in huge arrows everywhere to point you where to go.

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>>180807679
>design doc first covers setting, characters, and other bullshit before even mentioning gameplay, which is most likely barebones coverage

Fucking hell, take my (you), I'm well annoyed.

>>180807679
I've walked this path. Using a 1 month thing as a test for collab is not a bad idea. But desu you should find a single collab partner that you can trust, not bringing on a bunch of people. The writing thing is a red flag, though. If you're not competent at one of the core disciplines you're not gonna hold your weight in a team unless you're very very good at writing. Find a game that can be completed with you + the artist. (Musicians aren't really a core part of teams this small).

>>180807617
Its a shitty idea.
>online only for fucking music
>people with shit internet constantly buffering a track causing massive desynch
>have to support and hook into 5+ browsers

Literally what is good or appealing about this.

>>180808009
There are still people who get upset about internet requirements? I don't want them playing my game regardless desu, my game is for patricians, not plebs without internet. Christ even if you're out, pull out your phone with 3G to listen to my soundtrack you piece of shit.

I'm mainly more interested in a legal perspective though, not actually making a game with youtube for music.

>>180807679
Oh and every member should have done at least a couple jams or games that took at least 2 weeks.

>>180807721
I never did before now

>>180808120
>player has to manually pause and play
>tabs out and forgets
>now at a loss because its been a few tracks and where did he stop

This is some delusional art-house pretension. Theres nothing AG or even interesting about a game with the devs personal mixtape. Let alone an external one. And having an external dependency on a lite that may or may not be in $TIME is worse.

>inb4 more pretentious rationalization about time and death etc

>>180807679
ayy lmao

>>180808483
holy shit you're mad about a hypothetical situation

enjoy that autism!

>>180808709
>present a bad idea
>i tell you why its bad
>cant even refute anything and resort to the good old "a-autist!"

wwwwwwwwwwwwww

>>180808709
Enjoy that "game" you're gonna make, because I'm sure no one else will. Your posts truly show why exactly redditors can't ever truly integrate on here. The differences are just too much

>>180808813
Imagine caring this much about how good or bad an 'idea' that was presented purely for it's legal implications was

anyoen can link me the rules of the Recap? Cant find them, can find the recaps but not the rules.

>>180808884
>resort to passive-aggression and fall back on an excuse when the reality of your shit idea comes through
like
clock
work

>>180807679
>writerfag wants to get into gamedev by using other people to make the actual game
You don't deserve a serious answer but I'll give you one either way.

If you want to write and make games and you can program then make text adventures or CYOA book-games. This way you get by with minimal art and it's the only genre where you can let your writing carry the quality of the product.

Beyond that writing is probably the most unneeded part of indie games. Nobody wants a dedicated writer in their team because writing is something you can half-ass and still make a good game.

>>180808991
Let's go over my post again

"I honestly think the limits could be tested.

Is it okay to play an URL in the background? Why not? It's just doing what you can do in a browser?

What if I "recommend" the player use the in-game browser to listen to a song on youtube? What if I get an in-game character telling them to go there?

If some of those are wrong, what if I do the exact same things - but recommend people use their external browsers to listen to a song or playlist while playing? Surely that's not an offense.

the grey area is interesting to me"

This is the "game idea" that you're enraged about now.

Literally just hypothetical examples of situations being presented for their legal implications.. not even a game idea

You're an absolute madman

>>180808849
How much revenue did you make last month from game sales?

>>180807835
>Why would anyone collab on someone elses game when all they have is writing
Because I am still in the design phase. I give people the chance to hop on while the iron is still malleable. Currently, not many things are still not yet decided, so perhaps people would be more willing to jump on the project, since they can still make this their "baby" aswell. At least, that is my reasoning.

>You need to pay if you expect people to be interested in that.
If I had the means to pay, I wouldn't be recruiting in /agdg/. I would have a "For Hire" advertisment in a specialized portal. Why would anyone, ever, recruit paid labor from 4chan?

The only reason one would search for collab partners in 4chan, is when one is doing a free portfolio project. A portfolio project which would be used to show off to a potential future employer.

>Otherwise learn a real skill, writing isn't one.
I can program, there is no problem about that. If no programmer joins, I will do the programming, as well as the writing. However, that would mean that I would need to cut many things to fit into the deadline. So, having a programmer bro is desirable for me.

>>180807869
there was a sample in the image

>>180807926
If a programmer joins me within a few days, that programmer can choose the engine. I am "fairly" platform agnostic. I can program in Python, LUA, C#, C++ to help the programmer out.

If I don't get a programmer and I have finished my design phase and I have to start developing, then I develop this game in Monogame API.

>>180807986
> But desu you should find a single collab partner that you can trust
I have tried to ask my friends for assistance, but they can't be assed. So, I have no other chance but to rely on randoms from 4chan.

>Find a game that can be completed with you + the artist.
Yea, listing "musician" wasn't really pertinent for this project.

>>180809062
wew, nice reddit spacing.
The central-part of your game is an external OST.
Theres no legal ramifications about telling someone to look up a song, assuming no sites are named. So can we drop this whole goal-shift and get back to game-design?

Whats immersive or interesting about having to tab-out and force the player to look up a song on a site and then tab back in? Its actually the opposite because now youre:
>directly breaking immersion
>stopping the gameplay
>all in the name of something that should have been there in the first place
>because you think its interesting

So stop with the legal/hypothetical bullshit and tell me why this is a good idea.

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>>180807679

Isn't this the same guy who posted the last collab in the same structure with the Aryan super humans?

Didn't he want to do that in a month or something.

Look, skipping to new projects when others don't work out makes you look even worse. Instead of trying to sell your own project, why don't you offer to help someone else's project? It's a portfolio piece right? So it doesn't matter if you came up with the idea or not.

If you are interested, I can offer you some writing work - but my project is 18 months long, so you won't be seeing your work featured for quite a while.

>>180809339
Holy shit, how autistic are you?

The point was not that I'm going to actually tell players to alt tab their fucking game to load fucking youtube. How stupid are you?

The point was it's legal implications. How can you not get that? Why are you THIS angry? Probably upset you haven't gotten (any) as many sales as me, desu

How much revenue did you make last month from game sales?

>>180806578
This looks lewd. Is it from something lewd? I want to watch it if it is so tell me what it is.

>>180809339
>bring up situation because I find it's legal implications interesting
>read this comment

"The central-part of your game is an external OST."

Wew, my game sure changed!

@180809437
>legal
>legal
>legal

Alright, im done lad, gave you a shot but youre just continually shifting points of discussion to suit your lack of point.

>>180809437
lol all that damage control over people not liking your faggy idea

>>180809547
>literally quote my entire original post

"you're just shifting points of discussion.."

No, actually, the issue is you're autistic and don't understand what people are talking about, you act like a huge retard for absolutely no reason getting angry about a hypothetical situation presented for it's legal implications, and then say retarded shit like

"The central-part of your game is an external OST."

..because of a tiny shitty hypothetical.

You're actually an idiot. Just completely retarded.

>>180809281
I think you should actually make something that impresses people before recruiting. Right now you come off as a massive idea guy who isn't to be trusted with finishing a game.

>>180809547
>he runs away after getting absolutely btfo

when will nodevs learn?

>>180809646
>This has been my idea, basically Grooveshark in the game
>a hypothetical situation presented for it's legal implications

you sure are trying hard to pretend you never wanted to do this now that people are making fun of it

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rate my dash dance.

>>180809835
"Is it okay to play an URL in the background? Why not? It's just doing what you can do in a browser?

What if I "recommend" the player use the in-game browser to listen to a song on youtube? What if I get an in-game character telling them to go there?

If some of those are wrong, what if I do the exact same things - but recommend people use their external browsers to listen to a song or playlist while playing? Surely that's not an offense.

the grey area is interesting to me"

>he's so autistic he LITERALLY can not separate the word 'idea' from being 'game idea'
>because of this he LITERALLY thinks the ideas I presented for ideas for a game.. or something.. even though they have NOTHING to do with gameplay, or literally anything other than moral/legal questions

w e w

How much revenue did you make last month on game sales again? You keep avoiding the question.

>>180809376
>Screen fades to black to indicate the passing of day.
this is premium meta, keep it in.

>>180785254
Look up the algorithm to calculate a line between two points. For each pixel on the line, check for collision

>>180809838
I remember you talking about liking Donkey Kong GB earlier, I'm curious to see what you're gonna do with this. Gamemaker, right?

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>>180809482
Little Witch Academia

Surprisingly, it has no lewd at all, even though it's made by the same studio that made Kill la Kill.

But it has a unique artstyle and it's very fun to watch. You can find the two first OVAs in Netflix, that later got rebooted into an anime.

>>180810060
Yeah, game maker. I'm just messing around with something that feels good. Gonna try to get him to throw hammers, give him a crouch into a roll, try to get elevators and drop through platforms to work, maybe rope or ladders. No long term plans. I've just been away for a while for various reasons and wanna do something. If it turned into anything, it'd be my take on a metroid game, most likely.

>>180810019
thats not meta googs, just an age old trope dating back to original disney.

>>180810250
Your movement looks satisfying, and maybe consider letting the player throw hammers in a high arc with little forward travel, as well as a low arc that travels further out. Elevators and ladders make it sound like you're gonna make levels that're actually FUN to mess around in.

You have my attention dude.

>>180809006
its fine, pal
you are not obligated to join

>Isn't this the same guy who posted the last collab in the same structure with the Aryan super humans?
It is indeed me. And those were not Aryans. The picture was of a Pleadian alien from /x/ urban folklore.

>Look, skipping to new projects when others don't work out makes you look even worse
Its still the same project. I just developed the concept out more between the recruitment posts.

>If you are interested, I can offer you some writing work
Sure, I am interested. However, I will not just abandon this project. My project is also intended as an exercise in sticking with a project until the end. After the end of this project I would be interested in doing at least a month of work on your project as trial to see how we mesh. But not before I meet my current deadline.

>>180809659
At this point there is nothing to be done about that. Besides, once I have programmed over half of this game, I won't really be needing a programmer collaborator anymore, you know. So, this situation is kind of a pickle. "I need to do a significant portion of the programmer's work in order for programmer to join". Best solution I found to this pickle was that I just start recruiting early and hope for the best.

Do you think that it would help if I linked my dev tumblr which I abandoned many months back?

>>180809838
Awesome. Is this going to be a fan game or is he just a placeholder?

>>180809982
lol you keep reposting your retarded idea just to claim you never really meant it. i mean everyone says dumb shit sometimes but you could at least own up to it instead of posting I WAS ONLY PRETENDING a dozen times.

>You keep avoiding

there's like three separate people trying to draw you deeper into your meltdown

>>180810346
Haha, thanks. I just play a lot of smash brothers and love how movement feels. I wanna make something that's satisfying like that. If you haven't played Donkey Kong, it's on the 3DS virtual console, or you can just get VBA.

Protip: Skidding lets you back flip if you jump, like in my gif, and jumping while crouched puts you into a handstand, letting you high jump. You can throw the hammers straight up, high jump to the platform above and catch it, it's the only way to move the hammer vertically through the level.

>>180810406
correction
first reply was meant to be this:
>>180809376

>>180810413
Placeholder. I dig old graphics and prefer using them to 100% programmer art.

>>180810479
Oh I'm very very familiar with the GB Donkey Kong, that shit was my jam. Moving in that game was satisfying.

>>180810479
which smash bros game are you trying to get your movement to feel like?

>>180810574
Very underrated platformer. If it had been an NES or SNES title, everyone would still be talking about it.