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Bananas edition

>Last thread: >>180110506

>Latest update
http://steamcommunity.com/games/232090/announcements/detail/1334602669405426819

>KF2 Steam group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/kf2vg

>Maps and Mods by /kfg/
http://pastebin.com/QkMNdNPj

>Anon's guide to modding sound effects
http://pastebin.com/uCUjbFKY

>Useful console commands for testing:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=424641626

>Spreadsheet with lots of stats about perks, damage, weapons, etc:
http://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GDpg2mN1l_86U_RaDug0glFx8cZCuErwxZLiBKl9SyY/

>Mapping/modding help, bugs, tweaks, downloads, and extra stuff:
http://pastebin.com/w5jdaGVn
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First for gorefiends
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Second for Firebug a best
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>>180442942
I like playing firebug, but is it really that bad? I miss the old microwave gun and every time i find one of these threads people are slamming firebugs
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>>180442942
>play firebug
>feel underpowered, like flames barely hurt zeds
>check scoreboard
>somewhere close to top
>think it must be assists
>it's kills too
don't know
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will weekly cosmetic eventually become tradable?
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tfw fell for the premium ticket meme
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>>180443103
>>180443161
Don't let your dreams be dreams
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>>180444176
after spending like 50 bucks and I still can't get all the face paints
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>>180444385
I only want Strasser t b h. are they going to be marketable after the event?
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>>180445147
Nope.
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How do I buy the Horzine Mark 7 Bundle? nothing happens when I click buy ingame
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>>180445390
Authorize button? Check your Wallet in the Steam Client to see if it deducted the cost. You should get the items in the inventory after a while. You might need to restart Steam and KF2 to see them show up in-game.
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>>180445390
infact, I actually can't buy anything on the store in-game. shit is bugged I think. tried restarts and nothing.
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>>180445454
nothing shows up when I click buy. no steam prompt or anything
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>>180445631
Enable in-game steam overlay
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Lazy oc
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>>180445732
finally figured it out. MSI afterburner was fucking with the steam overlay.
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Would you?
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>>180447038
Pretty good m8
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>>180444385
It costs atleast $100 to get all cosmetics via paid tickets.
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>>180448038
I would the crawler so yes I would also the stalker.
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New medic toys and rework when? I want new guns and a right side of the tree that isn't fucking terrible.

Keep the left side as is but make the right side a de-buffer/combatant as a preventative care thing or something like that. The hodgepodge battle-medic with 3 useless combatant skills is ridiculous. It'd be nice to be able to change my medic playstyle and still be an effective support rather than having only one way to be a decent medic.
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Magnificent
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>>180451349
>"I need money, but deserve none."
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it's time
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>>180452140
Rare quality disappointment
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How long does the event last?
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>>180452317
Within six months.
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>>180452482
Get the hell out of here Denton
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>>180451318
A medic sniper rifle would be boss
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>>180453253
why stop here, why not have medic flamethrower
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>>180453707
Why stop there, why not have a medic rocket launcher
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>>180453864
he already have the grenade, it just doesn't propel itself
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>>180453253
Classmixing is ruining this game. Keep classes pure!
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>>180453864
Why stop there, why not have a medic gatling gun
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>>180454073
Medics entire arsenal is weapon mixing
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>boot up kf2
>SWAT is 13, so join hard because I'm bad
>nobody heals others
>nobody buys a medgun
>even after I tell them repeatedly
And that's how I remembered why I stopped leveling SWAT.
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>>180453707
>>180453864
>>180454242
why stop there, how about we just let this general die
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Who /survivalist/ here?
I'm having fun with Shotgun/new Shotgun+LAR/new LAR+RPG. Additionally Medic Pistol. I wish there was a second primary slot keybind like in original KF1 though.
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>>180454998
I votekick you on sight.
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>>180453707
it was called the Bile Thrower
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>>180454998
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>boss wave
>1 support (me), 1 demo (who played all game long with no RPG and still doesn't buy one), 1 commando, 1 survivalist, 1 firebug, and 1 slinger
>hans spawns
Fuck Hans. Fuck Hans with a rake. Fuck his shit theme song, fuck his nerfed gas grenades, fuck his endless can't touch this fuel, fuck the endless hordes of trash he spawns, fuck his 0.5 DR.
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>>180456884
so did you win?
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>>180456884
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What do you guys think of the weekly mode? Thought it was too easy personally. Two shot Hans with railgun and done.
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>>180455367
didn't heal, so not quite
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How many weekly "challenges" until they run out of ideas and start recycling old content?
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>>180457717
>Runs out of ideas
>just starts to copy l4d2 mutations
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>>180457717
Well it seems they only made 8.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQulBq-td6M
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>>180442942
>Infinite ammo/normal firing speed zed time perk
>Dual spitfires
>Tfw turning a corridor and the room behind it into a blazing fireball inferno filled to the brim with corpses
what a thrill
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Guess it's not a total loss.
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>>180457836
You know mutators were a thing ages ago in unreal tournament?
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N E W PATCH
E
W

Weapons Balance:
Commando

Stoner 63a
Damage increased 20%

Scar
Damage increased 10%

Support

M4
Weight reduced to 7 blocks
Hip recoil reduced 13%
Reload speed increased 20%
Elite reload speed increased 20%

Sharpshooter

Centerfire
Adjusted position for reloads to not block the center screen as much
Fix camera bob on sprint run to not be so extreme

Bug Fixes:
Fixed Scrake enrage issue
Fleshpound now properly enrages at any point in the game at spawn time if requested, Boom mode now properly de-enrages at all times
Players should now be able to more reliably matchmake into Weekly Event servers
Fixed typo with Summer Sideshow player "Accesosory"
Jagerhorn now also properly unlocks via Digital Deluxe as well as game group membership
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KF 2 Update 1054

http://steamcommunity.com/games/232090/announcements/detail/1349240635824965495
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THIS JUST IN!!

Weapons Balance:
Commando
Stoner 63a
Damage increased 20%
Scar
Damage increased 10%

Support
M4
Weight reduced to 7 blocks
Hip recoil reduced 13%
Reload speed increased 20%
Elite reload speed increased 20%
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I haven't played in at least a year. Are the new weapons shit? Why can gorefasts tank multiple m9 headshots? Where is martial artist and why does the survivalist perk look so shitty?
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>>180459849
>Are the new weapons shit?
yes
>Why can gorefasts tank multiple m9 headshots?
community feedback from r/killingfloor
>Where is martial artist and why does the survivalist perk look so shitty?
:^)
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>>180460431
i would argue, spitfires are great
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>>180459221
Holy shit that stoner buff. M4 is now a beast too
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>>180461176
The M4 still feels like shit imo, idk I guess I haven't played around enough.
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Rate my weapon ideas /kfg/

>Tommy Gun
>Mac 10 for Gunslinger and SWAT that can be dual wielded
>M32
>HMTech-501 Sniper Rifle
>MK23 for Gunslinger and Commando with blue laser sight toggle (really useful for akimbo mode)
>explosive harpoon launcher for Demo and Zerk
>FN FAL for Commando and Sharpshooter, fire modes only being semi auto and burst
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>>180461264
M4 has always been my favorite shotgun. Use it with tight choke
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>>180447038
>tfw DOSH
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>thought the Stoner would actually be competitive with the SCAR now
>SCAR gets buffed too for no reason
>still no buff to the AK-12 to make it more like a sidegrade to the SCAR rather than just flat out worse in every aspect except the scope and magazine size
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>>180461176
I thought “Accesosory“ was a wordplay.
Like “sorry for this shitty accessory“
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is there a go to guide I can follow so I don't look like a shitter during the harder difficulties?
I feel like the people I play with there slowly judge me by the small things I do
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>digital deluxe KF2 gives you Jagerhorn, Tom Banner, the Zweihander, Strasser, and Classic Briar/Masterson on top of the other stuff
When the hell did this happen? This stuff used to all be from different things.
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>>180463021
Nobody even knows what the hell they are doing until Suicidal. Stay with team, don't rage big zeds that you're unsure of killing yourself, anc practice your aim. That's all there is to it.
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Is SCAR much better now even with the 20 round mag?
I usually use AK12 + medic rifle for the ammo count and healing
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>>180463660
I assume it's recent. Wanted to check web archive, but this shit didn't go past the age check
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>Still no face paint on market
OPEN CRATES
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>>180464206
Yes. The 10% damage buff was just enough for commandos to reliably decapitate scrakes on their own.
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>>180462464
>he doesn't know about the burst fire
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>>180462464
Scar was arguably one of the weakest T4 weapons in the game. Now it feels much more well rounded.
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>>180464325
Can items from tickets even be put up on the market?
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>>180464712
They are untradeable and unmarketable.
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>>180464485
Yes I know about the burst fire. It's useful against Bloats, Gorefiends, Sirens, and Husks, but that doesn't make up for its lower damage, lower total ammo, slower reload, worse spread, worse rate of fire in non-burst, and identical weight so other than for personal attachment like in my case you have nearly no reason to pick it over the Medic AR or the SCAR if your primary weapon is the Stoner.
>hurr it's a tier lower
You can pick 2 tier 4s so why bother with the AK-12 at all when there's a near straight upgrade to it in the form of the Medic AR which you can pair with the SCAR, or you can just use the SCAR and the Stoner since the Medic AR is otherwise too heavy. Burst fire is NOT worth it for the total damage lost that comes with less damage per bullet and total spare ammo that you sacrifice.

The AK-12 would be a de-facto tier 4 if it had 2 more spare mags, that's all I want.
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>>180465228
>hurr it's a tier lower
That's a valid reason though. Why buff a midgame weapon if Commandos can just buy T4 weapons as you mentioned? As a mid-tier weapon for when you can pick it up it gets the job done. Although I do agree with you that the slow reload on it is overkill.
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We need a mod that adds Mcha Hitler boss, something in between pat and hans, with voice clips from hitler reacts videos
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>Machine Gunner extra damage: 3%
I don't get why this is still a thing. It's so insignificant you might as well remove it yet it hasn't been buffed or changed since release.
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>>180466123
>>reddit

Although this game does need new bosses. Maybe twin harlequin zeds with two separate HP bars or a big chimera type zed.
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>>180466123
Please stop posting
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>>180466873
You can expect the Matriarch down the line but more than that, forget it. We do have a Fleshpound King but he's gonna be exclusive to a weekly event.
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Question regarding ingame drops.
So you can only get a drop every 4 hours right? I just want to ask if I can just join a match that's about to end or do I have to play a full one starting from round one? also is there a difficulty requirement for it?
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>>180467201
Just play for about an hour then suicide in a solo game and you get it.
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>>180467201
You can play solo, die, and get your reward if you have one ready.
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>>180467604
>>180467254
so I can just kill myself as soon as I spawn? or play an hour? how long do I actually have to play

please be patient I'm stupid
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>>180468398
I believe it's rewarded every 4 hours at the end of a match regardless of time played.
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>>180468398
you can kill yourself in real life and you'll get a drop too
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KF1 is free on humble bundle: https://www.humblebundle.com/store/killing-floor
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>>180457717
The had a fix for boom in the patchnotes, so they definitely are planning repeats.
>>180458020
They have made 8 so far. Maybe they'll put more in before those repeat. But probably, the 8 will repeat until halloween.
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>The commando weapon buffs
YES
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>>180468398
If you don't get a drop initially, leave the game running in the background and try again after a while. This usually seems to work for me.
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>>180462165
I like trousers
Waiting for king Scrake. Hope he has a nice trousers
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>>180474968
chainsaw roller skates
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What should my loadout be as Gunslinger? Dual .500s, dual .50s and maybe dual M1911s/LAR?
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>>180462165
rest in pieces sweet prince you were too angry for this world
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>>180476875
I go with the 1911s so I can have plenty of ammo for trash, LAR and Centerfire have fuck all ammo
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>>180474968
>king scrake
>other arm and both legs replaced with chainsaws
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>They didn't fix the Centerfire's scope being slightly off center
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRl8QVRd19k

I like how this song gives me some serious KF1 vibes, especially starting at 2:26. KF2 needs more zYnthetic.
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>>180459221
>Boom mode
I feel retarded. What the fuck is this?
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>>180479025
Last week's weekly challenge, killing Zeds made them explode
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>>180478053
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>>180479231
>Right
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>>180479231
10/10 shitposting
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>>180459221
>>180459235
>>180459237
lmao how are there gonna be three extreme nerds on point with the update damn


anyway so on SWAT is suppression rounds actually good?

and I guess tactical movement isn't as good anymore now that heavy armor makes your armor stronger? ?
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>>180480892
Yes and yes
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Unlimited player slot server ready for business (until everyone stops playing)
open 70.178.194.48:7777?password=rage

All voice chat being done in the cool guy discord
https://discord.gg/e2mffzs
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>>180461503
>FN FAL for Commando and Sharpshooter, fire modes only being semi auto and burst
my nigga
Though I'm not familiar with any FAL with a burst-fire?
Also a C96 Schnellfeuer (select-fire C96) for Gunslinger/SWAT would be awesome. There should be two versions, with and and without the stock attached (for less recoil but more weight).
Who else so autisitic they spend time dreaming up guns in KF2 or other vidya?
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So what's the go-to perk path for Support these days?
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>>180478505
this whole event feels like killing floor 1
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>>180483047
really more worth than 30%+ ammo?
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>>180485579
Protip, you can switch to the ammo skill during trader time, fill up your guns, drop them, switch back to the other skill and then pick up your guns again and they'll still have the extra ammo.
This works for every other Perk with an ammo skill too.
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>>180485282
I almost always use LRRLR, but use Tactical Reload up until I buy an AA12.
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>>180485720
too much work
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>tfw you put the cage down
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>>180485892
Huh, alright, so is it official that the mag size is better than reload speed on the AA12, or is it personal preference? I like the fast reload just because of DBS, but I do see that +50% capacity being useful, even with the starter shotgun.
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>>180485912
There are rarely any cases where i run out of ammo with my 3 guns as SWAT. Use supression rounds unless you're really strapped for ammo like 6 man HoE
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refined OC
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>>180487170
>run out of ammo
How about when you don't have room to get as much as you possibly can from suppliers?
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>>180486861
Barrage makes those extra ten shells plenty worth it. Before L25, whatever.
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>>180487469
Just keep all your weapons and only sell them once you can afford to buy an upgrade. For example keep your mp7 with mp5/p90 so that when those run out of ammo you can just switch to your secondaries.
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Why is fanatical devotion so often associated with hair loss?
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>>180489104
There's a lot of stress along the path of righteousness. Devoting yourself to something bigger and more important than you could ever be isn't all sunshine and rainbows.
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>they STILL haven't fixed the bug where zeds get stuck on that one floor on The Descent and you just have to pray they despawn
inb4 >playing The Descent
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ded gaems
ded thred
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>>180490202
>Playing Descent
>Implying you can inb4 your own post
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>>180490202
Everybody stopped playing the descent like a day after it came out for a reason anon.
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For a Commando not using Eat Lead, is it better to use Tactical Reload or High Cap Mags?
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>>180489718
I just now tabbed back in and realised I posted in the wrong general. Please understand
Have a mundane screenshot in exchange
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>>180491425
It's mostly down to personal preference, but I prefer mags since reload cancelling makes reloads relatively short anyway
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>>180491604
Don't worry, It happens to everyone at some point
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>>180491604
And here I thought you were talking about Gibson.
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I have a feeling that they will not reduce M4's weight to the point that you can carry 3 shotguns including AA12 and and M4. Instead they will keep the current weight and constantly buff it in other aspect until it becomes completely broken.
also
>FP raging on spawn is a still feature
At least Stoner got a buff
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>>180454770
Just roll SWAT in round 1 to get double pistols.
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>>180492515
what if there was another dog with its head through the other hole

what if it was the same type of dog too and the exact same size do you think their noses would be able to touch or no
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>>180442524
Do you guys remember the good old days?
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>>180494497
Remember when you could cheese Hans by having someone weld a door while he kept hitting, and the rest of the team shot him?
Remember when his gas was actually dangerous?
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>>180465657
It's really not. Tiers are shit game design.
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>>180494816
I remember parrying hans with a scalpel.
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>>180494497
What point in the EA span was this?
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>>180495010
I first posted this webm in May 2015 according the the archive, it was right after EA release.

https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/102385987/#q102399767

By the way, it has been a long time since I last played this game, is bashing scrakes on the back still a legit strat to save teammates when they get focused? This is an old webm too.
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>>180494996
There was an old OC related to this. kek
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AAAAAAAAAAAAGH!

So I'm doing a 10 wave suicidal on Evacuation with some buds
I'm a level 22 medic with 2 level 25 zerks.
"Alright, this we can do"
>two of their friends join and go zerk
>both are level 5
>"Yeah, you can play zerk, just be prepared to die a lot"
>one of the 25's didn't know a husk's flamethrower is actually dangerous.
>At multiple times I would give someone 300 dosh, and they would have more than 1500 in the bank, yet not buy armor
>many times this was the now level 6 zerk
>we can never ever hold a point
>underleveled shitters are dodging my darts, but refuse to stand in a place where I have LOS to them.
>at level 8/10 we finally wipe for good (it was doable even with 4/5 players being zerks, but that was a thing).
>"Good job everyone, suicidal is just hard. We'll get it eventually."
>I've cleared HoE on every map, but I did it solo because of people like this.

This was my one day off from work. This is how I chose to spend my one and only life.
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>>180495807
melee still staggers scrakes
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>>180477592
>bottom half of scrake becomes mechanical and gets treads instead of legs
how fucked are we

also how come commando can't use any of the singular pistols if he gets a pistol perk i mean COME On

>>180486592
90% of the time on pubs people are just trapping teammates it really gets my goat
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>>180494497
It was so easy to dodge enraged scrakes
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what's the most based perk

I don't care about what I enjoy but rather prefer to be the most fashionable
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>>180496859
I remember Scrakes scared the crap out of me because they were so fast, now you can outrun them without even having to sprint.
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>>180496957
Slinger because the 7 pistols grant you extra armor plating.
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>>180496753
>how come commando can't use any of the singular pistols if he gets a pistol *skill
Because he doesn't, he gets a 9mm and knife skill, it's just meant to boost your backup weapons not break the theme of the class
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>>180459221
wow its fugging nothing
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Does anyone use reload speed ^ with DBS? I thought mobility was more important
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>>180496989
>now you can outrun them without even having to sprint
What? I'm pretty sure you need to sprint to outrun them on HoE.
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>>180498880
I do, mostly for the quick Scrake takedowns.
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>>180498880
I'm just a sucker for the punch that the DBS does, being able to just slap the next shots in so quickly just keeps the fuel going.
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>>180499035
So what do you use as a main gun? Still the AA12, or the M4?
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>>180499640
I'll run around with the dbs and quick reload, blasting zeds in barrel at a time and feel like I'm playing Doom.
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>>180499648
AA12 as a panic button and for Fleshpound takedowns, you follow their head during the rage animation like you would with Gunslinger or Sharpie.
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SWAT NERF WHEN?
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>>180479338
>>180480840
I don't get it.
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>A little song, a little dance, a little ______ ____ ____ ____!
What's he saying?
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>>180501509
A LITTLE SALSA DOWN YOUR PANTS
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>>180501509
Seltzer down your pants.
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>>180500396
hz12 sights are pretty bad
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>>180497741
What are gunslingers good for
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>>180503507
'Slingers! Huh! What are they good for? Absolutely everything if they know their shit.
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>>180503750
Huh. And they're especially based, yeah? Maybe I'll get into that then.
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>>180504148
Make sure you really git gud with the perk before going on Hell on Earth. You bring nothing to the table that a Support doesn't bring in terms of damage and how well a perk can clear a bunch of enemies unless you are a really good shot.
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>>180502772
Sure, but I meant the shitposting comment. Fixed typo with Summer Sideshow player "Accesosory". So I guess they're not so sorry anymore?
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>>180461503

One thing I've always wanted in KF2, having played a lot of Battlefield 3 back in the day, is a USAS-12 with frag rounds, for Support and Demo. With Support governing the actual impact damage and Demo governing the explosives. Imagine, Demo with it during zed time laying down a fuckton of WoF poison clouds all over the map. Or a Support during zed time laying into a FP, demolishing it and anything around it.
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I wish crates didn't count as part of the 4 hour ticket drops.
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>>180497741
When will we be able to shoot fireballs and rockets out of the air?
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I don't know how I feel about this
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God this has felt like a fucking chore. Is it possible to not get vacbanned and just adjust an .ini or something so this is all 25? Pic related.
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Ana's outfit from the summerside show trailer
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>>180508103
Coming to a cash shop near you.
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>>180508069
Just download a grinding map and HoE it.
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>>180507801
It's the only other thing I want from the tickets, but would prefer it in purple. Damn if Tripwire doesn't hate me though, seeing as I've gotten 2 crates and a usb for my last three drops.
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Has anyone here bought the Mark 7 suit? The one added recently? If so, care to post pics of what the alternate colors look like? I don't want to give Tripwire more of my money before being sure.
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>>180507801
I got the purple one but if I was going to have any of them I'd rather have the red one. The only character that has a purple costume as far as I know is Anal. Wearing purple on my yellow Scully or red Donovan is just weird.
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>>180508392
Hold on, I got it saved on my phone after another kind anon provided pictures. 2 seconds.
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does the golden ticket even exist?
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>>180508605
Someone posted a golden ticket about two threads ago I believe. Forget what he got from it, but it was golden.
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Okay, what in the actual fuck are you supposed to do against Volter's chasing melee in a solo game? Every time he starts doing that I'm just auto-fucked.
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>>180508846
Parry with a katana, jump away with the DBS, use corners or obstacles to fuck with his AI, die.
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>>180508392
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>>180508392
>>180509094
And heres the Mark 7 palette in comparison to the original Wilkes
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>>180508846
Your only option is to out damage him. If your class can't do that then you just die. Maybe if you're clever you can bait an attack and doge it, but I think that only works on Patrick.
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Weird, kept getting error messages on phone and when I tried transferred the file over to the pc, 4chanx kept saying the file was corrupt.
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>>180509229
Jesus Christ why does Wilkes look jacked in that Suit in comparison to a KF2 guy. Fucking thunderthighs and everything.
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>>180509094
>>180509229
Thank you so much, based Anon.
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>>180508904
>>180509258
Dern Nazi's really making my Commando grinding a pain in the ass.
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>>180509373
Because KF character models were less cartoony and thus allowed for more badassery.
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>>180509583
>more badassery.
God damn Randy and Gearbox for ruining the word badass.
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>>180508210
So I'm netting about 5K for 4 round HoE, which takes about 10-12 minutes unless I'm using explosives like Surv/Demo. I can do a 10 round, but since the boss always offers the best "wave/xp" ratio then anything longer.
Level 23-24 Support requires 37K. So that's about 70 minutes for next level, and 90 minutes for level 24-25. So that's nearly 3 hours of continuous shit. If that's the best way then alright, but that still sounds awful. I guess it's better than KF1 "faked players, HoE, Mountain Pass"
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Is the Bullpup worthless? Seems like it's generally better to just save up for the Kalash, Stoner or SCAR, rather than waste dosh on a weapon I'll just be replacing in a wave or two.
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>>180510013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYUM8QuHZyU Could always try that, not sure if it still works though.
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>just finally saw the loading screen tip that tells you melee swings are determined by movement
Christ, why do games like this never just have all this sorta stuff written down in a menu section somewhere?
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>>180510639
'member when video games had manuals?
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>>180442524
>killing floor
>you dont kill floors
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>>180510639
That's minor and you should be able to solve this by yourself in thirty seconds, but things like "healing allies gives do$h AND recharges the syringe twice as fast" or "bash stumbles even big zeds" or "scrakes never stop raging but never rage by themselves in theory, however fps rage if they don't hit something but hitting someone unrages them" is crucial and a lot less intuitive.
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>>180510046
It's pretty much just an AR15 with a bit more ammo and slightly higher RoF
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The centerfire is going to get nerfed so hard, it'll make the LAR looks good.
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>>180510046
The bullpup was entirely worth it when it could still deal with gorefasts and husks easily. Now it's trash.
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>>180511643
Why would it though? The thing seems fine for the 650 dosh price tag.
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>>180511384
But all of that is what I'm talking about, that was just an example. There's so many essential, often basic mechanics to this game (and a lot of others) that just go completely un-noted unless you're lucky enough to see some loading screen tip, accidentally work it out yourself, or learn it through word of mouth. Yet not knowing stuff like the recharge penalty to self-healing and the Zed rage mechanics puts you, and more significantly your team, at a huge disadvantage.

Hell, most of the retards I play with don't even seem to know how to work their inventory, it seems most of them don't even know you can equip your syringe to heal others, or how to drop weapons and money. All this could be alleviated to a decent degree with just a few simple tutorials.

I'm tired of all these level 20+ players who still never heal anyone else and how virtually no one below 20 seems to understand how to deal with a Scrake or FP, especially with how easy it'd be to explain all this stuff (and how having a tutorial in-game would make it a bit more justifiable when I yell at these people for not knowing all this).
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I saw someone on the Steam forums claim that suiciding a solo game has worse odds of a ticket drop than normal play. At first I figured it was bullshit, but my last three drops have been crate/usbs, while so far the last 5/7ish drops for me with server hopping have been tickets.

Am i being memed on?
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>Level 25 Firebug grabs your weapon after you die and sells it
I swear I'm about to start votekicking this perk on sight.
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>>180513245
#NotAllFirebugs
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>>180494497
>When health bar was red
Why the fuck did they have to change it?
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>>180507801
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>>180513245
Do it. Firebugs and "=" signs should be votekicked on sight. Supports who don't supply ammo should be left to fend for themselves.
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Holy shit the scrakes sounds terribly overacted, instead of coming of as disquieting all I can think of is that the voice actor and voice modulation is shit.
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ana has a pretty nice ass t b h.
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>>180508069
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnuOFg1W7jM
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>>180513245
>>180514393
Please don't indiscriminately bully Firebugs, there are some of us that actually take our dedicated trash clearance role seriously. Feel free to kick Survivalists and combat Medics though.
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>>180514931
i wonder what it smells like after a match haha
just a sniff haha
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>>180514931

I want to sniff
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>get 5 tickets
>expect disappointment
>ends up looking ok

well
ok I guess
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>>180517321
eeeewwww
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can anyone here explain why DBS is so liked? is there tricks to using it or something
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>>180519070
firing both barrels gives you extra height/distance covered from a mob
does fucktons of damage point blank on a SC/FPs head
weighs basically nothing
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>>180519182
>firing both barrels gives you extra height/distance covered from a mob
the fuck? can I jump over mobs with this trick when I'm surrounded?
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>>180519070
Get every altfire pellet on a SC head. Blast a huge crowd of trash on their ass. Jump and altfire to use the recoil to dodge a lethal hit.
It's just an extremely satisfying gun, especially for the price and weight.

Did the patch today fix the "press altfire during reload queues up a primary fire when the reload is over" bug?
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>>180519182
Not to mention it's got the price of a tier 2 weapon despite it's damage.

>>180519629
Not certain about blasting over enemies (feel free to test it out though) but you can definitely use it to your advantage by launching yourself away from a Zed right as they're about to hit you, while simultaneously doing fairly high damage.
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>>180520009
forgot pic
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36/36 server was fucking hectic
got best healing as a level 15 support not surprised at all
only healed 800hp
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>>180519629
Yes. And head stomps knock out the weaker zeds.
Unfortunately many zed attack hitboxes reach higher than you'd expect.
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>>180513245
>some shitter dies wave 1
>pick up his t1
>asks for it back
>sell it
>they get mad

In all seriousness, please direct your hatred after asking yourself these series of questions.

Are they top fragging? By how large a margin? Are you stupid enough to go in their lane when there's no big zeds?

Shitters in general sell any weapons they find on the ground as well as magdump rage big guys regardless of the perk they play, this is not rocket science.

Also git gud so you don't die.
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>>180520184
my sides are gone from seeing that
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>>180520910
HOW ABOUT I FUCK YOU IN THE ASS HUH?
YOU LIKE THAT YOU FUCKING BITCH?
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>>180520910
>their lane
suicide yourself dotard
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>>180520241
>>180520184
>>180520009
>>180519892
>>180519182
goddamn I'm sure as hell gonna give DBS a shot after reading all of this
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So anyone notice out there how much of a hassle toxic proc is when you want headshots/parries? I understand some medics want some usefulness besides heal bitch, but like. Get the movement speed one! Fuck, get the one that's just flat damage up!

HEY, YOU COMBAT MEDIC READING THIS. IF YOU HEAL ME WHEN YOU AREN'T AT FULL HEALTH, AND YOUR HEALTH DOESN'T ALSO GO UP, I JUDGE YOU. IF I EVER SEE A TOXIC-STATUS'S ZED AS A ZERK I WILL INITIATE A VOTE KICK RIGHT THERE.
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>>180521957
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>>180519629
>>180520009
>HoE, wave 10
>Everyone's dead except me
>Only few zeds left, but one Fleshpound still alive
>Be pretty low on health because got blocked by trash that was around the corner
>Come into open just to see a Fleshpound charging at me
>Run towards him, DBS jump over him, dodging his attack and making him derage because he hit a clot or something
>Heal up, kill him and solo the rest of the wave
>Pubbies lose their shit and send me friend invite
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>>180524603
you could have saved the webm, but now we just have to trust you on the internet
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>>180524603
>tfw tried to do something similar but choked halfway through
>FP goes balls deep on me
I-i just want to be cool
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>>180524701
Even if I did, everyone would probably just focus on me using a crosshair.

>>180524867
Yeah, I was pretty lucky that he hit something, otherwise he would pound my ass.
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Well, that's 4 non ticket drops in a row.
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>>180525868
>missed all shots
>zed time reloading
did you make this webm to hurt me
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>>180525167
>using a crosshair
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>>180525959
Feels damn good, when zed time starts right when I start reloading my empty gun, but I can immediately cancel the reload and spray a hundred bullets from nowhere, thanks to Rapid Assault.
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>tfw I've gotten 7 tickets in a row since I played
t-thanks TW
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For the HS12. I feel like as a T2 it's just a tad wonky. Honestly I think it would have been cooler to basically make it a DBS, but with 16/24 rounds. Imagine using the alt-fire to jump over those shitty fences or dodge husk shots.
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I just skip the HS12/DB now and save for the M4 since that shit is bonkers now
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>tfw Commando+SWAT
So much Zed Time, so many bullets
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>>180527215
i thought it was supposed to be that meme double barrel pump action shotgun that was popular a few months ago
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>>180527518
>Be Commando, have a Zerk on the team
>2 Scrakes and 2 Fleshpounds coming at us
>Get a Zed time and max extend it
>Only one Fleshpound still alive after ZT
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>>180526263
http://coub.com/view/vaa51
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>>180527995
I can see why it'd be popular. its gotta be a beast at clearing trash zeds
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>>180528179
pretty dank monsieur

are demo trap charges any good? what other wombo combos are there?
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>>180525959
Wasn't lvl 25 when I made that webm and my aim wasn't the focus. Thought it was amusing that the gorefast just kinda slumped down into a dejected looking sitting position.
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tell me /kfg/ how do I become the most effective gunslinger for my team do I just keep clicking heads?
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whats the best way to farm tickets
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>>180529630
Cancel reload with melee bash when ammo counter resets
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>>180529823
play a short game on normal every 4 hours
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>>180528314
Eh. It's alright. The sights are off from center, and it can't fire both barrels at once (each "duo" of rounds is semi-auto, then you have to pump) as is, it's basically an AA12 Jr. Once you actually get the AA12, it seems to lose most of it's functionality. It won't give you the jump of the DBS, and it's technically worse than the M4 per shot (10, 20 damage pellets vs 7, 30 damage pellets). It's also not as cheap as the starter shotty for ammo.
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>>180529894
does that work for every gun?
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>>180530415
Yes. All types of reload cancelling are universal.
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>>180530415
there's more variations? what's the best one?
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>>180530606 is meant for >>180530543
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>>180530415
Yes, when the ammo counter resets.
Nearly all guns reset their ammo counter when the mag clicks in, (the first mag, in the case of dualies) but there are exceptions.
Elite VLAD reloads, for one, probably because when they went through and changed the ammo counter reset times, elite vlad reloads weren't being used ingame; crossperking wasn't in yet.
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>>180530606
Once you see the number change just melee, weapon swap or heal. You can do this with the syringe too, canceling the animation right as the syringe is injected by switching to a weapon, so you don't have to wait through the full animation of your guy putting the syringe away before puling your weapon back out. As long as you wait for the ammo number to update or you health to start going up, you'll cancel the animation without negating it's effect.

As >>180530748 touched on, this can be really noticeable (and helpful) with dual-wielded weapons since the ammo count refills as soon as the first mag's put in, meaning you can just melee, heal or swap weapons and you won't have to wait through your dude putting in the other mag and cocking both guns.
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>>180442524
Matriarch when?
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>>180531295
>>180530748
>search reload cancel on youtube
>see this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4vsiY1urWI
>mfw
shieet I've been missing out
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>>180521847
>being this assblasted
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im new , i got killing floor 1 for free, what should i learn to git gud?
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>>180531991
Commando
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>>180531991
Learn to headshot, heal teammates, don't randomly rage Scrakes and Fleshpounds. Those're the basic but essential lessons I can think of off the top of my head.
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>>180531886
using smug anime on Bangkok cock banging forum is like playing on Normal, apply yourself
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>>180531991
how the fuck i play online on this? i don't see any server
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>>180532719
Delete system32
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>>180531886
I'll fuck you if you dont stop posting
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this festival thing looks fun :)
being ps4 sure is suffering :)
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>>180532384

What if the FP rages without me doing anything
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>>180533080
>PS4
wew lad, but honestly blame Sony and their 2 week approval for updates. At least you guys will have your own month for the event.
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>>180533103
Well then you're not to blame, are you?
You can make it unrage as Berserker or Medic with a clever strategy that makes him hit thin air without hurting anyone but you pretty much need to be max level to have enough speed to do it and know the game at a decent level so don't worry about it for now. If it's pissed off and it's not your fault, shoot it with explosives if you're Demo. If you're any other perk, just try to keep trash away from the rest of the team.
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>>180533103
KF1 fp autorage can be reset if you break his line of sight to you for even a moment. Run past a tree and you're good for a while.
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Zerker here trying to get more use out of Katana. The katana has a draw-strike which does the alt-fire's damage, but I'm not sure what skills it actually benefits from (light attack damage from massacre? Is it a heavy attack, or is it one of those shitty untyped attacks like a thrust?) Considering the knife stab actually has more range I could see some possible use for it. Like it's still ultimately just a niche thing, but maybe cool?
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>>180516089
>hating on combat medics
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>>180533971
>hating on retards who pick the least offense-oriented class just to heal themselves and no one else
Yeah, me and everyone else. If I'm out-healing a Medic as any other perk, they deserve to have their game data deleted.
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>>180533971
>at best being a worse Commando and at worst being a slightly better Survivalist
Yeah, congratulations. You're really fucking useful.
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>>180531886
I want AI chan to sit on my face!
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What skills increase Eviscerator damage? Is it only the headshot skill?
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>>180534334
All skills that boost light attack damage increases the projectile's damage while all all hard attack damage boosts increase the chainsaw's damage.
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>>180534198
I miss times when we shat on cuckmandos and that combat medics were the hot meme which were more valued, now we've got this shitty system
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>>180534465
>chainsaw's
it's circular
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>>180534990
Right.
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>the pleasure of immediately vote kicking firebugs off the weekly servers
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>>180534935
Because back then Commando sucked cock and Medic was godlike. It could do every perk's job better than the perk itself could excluding Support.
Support only had the AA12 and a damage boost going for it.
Berserker was nigh on garbage and the only reason to use it was for its damage boost with the Pulverizer. It could parry everything but that wasn't really viable considering how much damage he still took from all the trash.
Commando just had a damage boost and zed time extension.
Meanwhile Medic had grenades that repaired tons of armor, ridiculously high armor to begin with, great surivability, and could more or less use melee weapons just as effectively as Berserker.

Now we have dedicated, good Fleshpound killers (Demo, Sharpshooter, Berserker if he's really good with the Eviscerator), Scrake killers (Sharpshooter, SWAT sort of, Demo if he's up to the task, Support sort of) and trash killers that aren't bad (Commando, Firebug, SWAT, Support).
There's even already a dedicated "I suck at everything perk" and it's Survivalist. A combat Medic can't outperform a Commando for ranged trash killing, nor can Survivalist (or Commando with a Medic AR) outdo a Medic at healing.
So literally all you have to do is NOT spec in a way that Commando or Survivalist are only moderately worse at your task than you are while still being worse than them when it comes to killing trash.
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I don't really believe in the combat medic meme. Personally i've never seen a medic player solo run off and try to carry.
And the only times i've been called a combat medic was when that one player decides to split off from the group and get killed expecting me to follow him on his ammo box search.
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>>180535746
Luckily they're rare but when they do show up they're worse than Survivalists in the sense that while a Survivalist might be naive and think he's doing the team any good, a combat Medic goes out of his way to not be useful to the team and is a stuckup cunt.
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>>180535987
Fun fact: this is why a Survivalist is better than a combat medic. Try looking at the player behavior beside the perk.

Survivalist should in theory be capable of doing any sort of task semi-well. If he's doing any of those things, then weirdly enough he's kinda not fucking up. It's not the survivalists fault the perk sucks.

Conversely the medic has literally one and only one purpose or feature: healing people. Suppose they even pick every last thing on the right hand side, but they spend the entire time medic-darting people the whole round. I would say he's doing his job slightly worse, but on the off-chance the team does wipe, he has a chance of carrying.

So who's the asshole here? The player gimped with a shitty class that needs to be buffed, or the player clearly not giving a shit, who might as well play solo with faked players for all of his team contributions? You could say that a survivalist is shitting on the team for picking a bad perk, and there's something to that, but at least the class isn't labeled fucking "MEDIC"
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Does anybody else feel that Normal in KF2 is like Beginner in KF1, Hard in KF2 is like Normal in KF1, Suicidal in KF2 is like Hard in KF1, HoE in KF2 is like Suicidal in KF1 but there's no difficulty in KF2 as challenging as HoE in KF1? KF2 is too damn easy. They need an additional difficulty above HoE or make HoE much harder IMO.
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fuck
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>>180537530
low energy
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>>180537628
so sorry
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>He fell for the medic Jew
Why are medics so damn greedy, /kfg/? I never give them any money since it's not hard to save up for the medic AR on your own and the fact that you don't need it until later waves anyway.
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>>180537242
They need to either entirely remake the right side to simply be team buff options. Why not add stuff like temporary reload/recoil buffs, increased grenade count that also temporarily gives a teammate full armor that degrades over X seconds or temporarily overbuffed max armor that eventually degrades down to what it was before, muscle relaxant darts or paralyzing poison that knocks down/unrages zeds, and so on.
If they can't do that then just make Medic the one perk you don't get to select skills for. I'd rather have no choice than an obvious choice you can fuck up.
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>>180537734
it's pretty easy if you just stick to the medic pistol. Not enough people know that the Medic SMG is bad (Literally same healing capacity/potency as pistol). If you save up even without getting assistance it's easy, but if you keep buying the next tier gun you are losing money. Medic Shotgun is probably worth it, especially if you are hitting wave 4-5, but the SMG should always be skipped.
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>>180537628
i feel your pain anon I keep getting duplicates now
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>>180538020
I don't give medics money anymore unless they specify its for a shotgun/rifle because I've given too many medics enough money to get them early wave 1500 and seen them immediately purchase a SMG and fill up their ammo/armor.

I don't ask for money as medic either because hey, I'm just here to heal. Up to you if you want to help fund my medrifle or not, I'll be fine regardless.
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>>180537991
You know I could see a sort of thing where one side is a "chemist" side and the other is more like a "combat engineer" side. Not combat medic, think of it more like the left side, but with longer lasting benefits.

Instead of having to heal a person to give them +10% damage for a few seconds (kind of piddly
anyway) they would press E on you like support/demo and get a passive boost to one weapon's damage (one weapon per player, maybe just lasts that round). Another option could be for a small amount of armor.

The "Chemist side" could be focused on things like better healing potency or making the toxic proc better. Maybe one option specifically buffs the grenades?
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A medic skill where your heals are reduced 25% but are applied instantly could be neat.
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a medic skill tree entirely devoted to being a slut
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If you could choose between lvl 25 Medic's old Sedative or Healing Farts, what would you choose?
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>>180538348
I'm not too keen on having more "press E to activate this stuff" skills. There's already one for Demo and Support and realistically SWAT could get one that increases your max armor or makes it more durable (until your armor is depleted) and since they require player interaction you both get retards who will hog the trader pod so you can't take it from them during trader time, or people will just not realize they can take the buff at all and ignore it. Although you could argue if they're too stupid to take it then there's not much you can do about it.

>(one weapon per player, maybe just lasts that round)
Seems stupidly good. I mean sure you COULD achieve the same effect now by having a Medic constantly spam darts into you for a solid damage boost, but that takes an extreme amount of effort on the Medic's part and can only be done on one person. Imagine the whole team suddenly having a tier 4 weapon with 10~25% permanent damage increases since they always refresh it for their tier 4 at the end of the wave.

>Another option could be for a small amount of armor.
Seems more fitting for SWAT and Support already has it. If we're talking STRONGER armor (not just more/free armor refill) then it definitely should be for SWAT.

>Maybe one option specifically buffs the grenades?
Unless the buff is ridiculously good it doesn't seem very appealing. Medic's grenades are useful, sure, but they're either used entirely defensively when there's big zeds in your face or offensively but then all it really does is hold back the trashiest of trash zeds. Making it just heal more/faster is boring and making it deal more damage is just as boring with the chance of being overpowered.
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>>180538417
>Syringe recharge speed slowed by 75%
>Healing darts regen health 200% faster

Could be cool desu, it's insanely overpowered if it isn't balanced right though.
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tried to do the weekly yesterday with pubs on farmhouse. 7 waves felt like 20 and patty rekt us after 20min of kiting
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>>180539236
it's easier solo
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Stop bullying firebros!!
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>>180535746
We had an amazing medic back in the day, rip healslut she wastoo good for this game ;_;
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>Killing Floor 1 now has more current players than KF2
I know it is Humble Bundle free giveaway but I still feel happy. Unlike free weekend, these people now actually own the game and might play it regularly. KF2 mechanics and hitbox is less wonky than KF1 but KF1 has better aesthetics and music. Not to mention each perk actually feel powerful and we don't shoot toy gun
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>>180540276
Daily reminder that they jacked off about guns in game having animations for over 200 FPS, and then gave Sharpshooter a literal nerf gun.
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i guess im lucky this time. now who do i put this helmet on?
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>>180540731
Fun fact: it can be equipped with the gas mask, and it's not a bad fit either. I'd suggest putting it on Ana to cover that shitty hair, but she just got a better costume.
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>>180540276
I hope KF1 gets a reasonable amount of players regularly, its a hidden gem of a game and i'm glad I found it on sale years ago
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>>180539236
>Being this bad

>>180540095
>Healslut being a good medic

>>180540276
>Active players
>Not idling the game for cards
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>>180541428
I remember first time playing KF1 in 2010. The satisfaction you have from using the LAR and getting headshot to level up Sharpshooter. The headshot sound effect is goddamn good. Also ZED time in KF1 does not turn everything into black and white. And you don't have ZED time skill so it somewhat feels more "real".
>>180541516
ok there might be players idling for cards but I see a lot of Normal/Hard servers with people inside.
>>180540612
I'd rather have the M99 than Railgun. They function the same and Railgun feels like a fucking piece of plastic shit. KF2 Medic gun is the worst
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>>180540095
>Amazing Medic
>Press M3 in the general direction of a teammate whenever his health goes down to win involves skill
Medic has never had any skill involved at any point during this game's development.

>>180540276
Nice. I should try going back to it. It's been far too long.
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>>180541892
She was a combat medic so therez that too :^(
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>>180542510
>she
>healslut
>combat medic
Well you don't miss her for her contributions on the field, that's for sure...
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>>180540881
>but she just got a better costume.
?
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>>180540881
Should just give her a burqa
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>>180542648
What are you trying to imply, anon? That women can't into fighting? Thats awfully sexist and I should report you to John Gibson for such a thing.
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>>180543040
Anything that makes any part of Ana harder to see is a cosmetic meant for her.
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>barely been able to play this event
When does it end?
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>try KF1 again since it's got a player spike
>only servers I can find are on Normal because I only just now remembered listen servers are a thing
>everyone except me and a level 6 Commando die EVERY SINGLE WAVE
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WHERES MY BEGGINER DIFFICULTY?
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>>180544342
>got bike helmet through a drop
>slapped it on her
>huge improvement
I also gave it to foster cause of the jacket meme he's got now
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sitting on the shitter at work right now, thinken bout killing zeds

how about you guys?
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>>180540881
Dammit, this clown suit's texture is way worse than store version. TWI, you bloody jews
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>>180547773
about to go to work soon after a full night of "GODDAMN YOU! SHARPSHOOTER GET AWAY FROM THE FUCKING GOREFIEND! HE'S NOT A FIDGET SPINNER YOU LOON!"
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>>180547773
On the job waiting for the shift to end so I can catch up on some ticket grindin this weekend
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>be sharpshooter
>more zed kills than the SWAT and Commando by a large margin
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>>180548775
I almost read that as "big zeds killed" and was about to make a cheeky comment.
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>>180532489
Not using a smug anime pic on a Mongolian Paper Folding forum is like being stuck on the Tutorial.

>>180532969
You're welcome to try if you can get it up. I'm afraid you'll just end up being disappointing in yourself though.
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Are perk leveling maps still a thing?
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tfw keep forgetting to use grenades
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>>180540881
I put the black guy in the trash bag myself
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>>180549910
Should be always an HOE server with it


Jewwire loves to make a grind
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>>180550519
Is that one with the perk anime characters on the walls still on the workshop? The kfg one? I think it was super perk trainer or something
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>>180550646
Only one that works

Early on there was a perk leveling map that got you to level 25 in 2 minutes but they disabled something to allow you to do that
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>>180550646
That's one of them, yeah. RIP Martial Artist chan.

We failed to protect her smile.
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>ywn nutt in lolihealslut for money so she gets her medrifle wave 2
Im crying bros
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>>180549910
i use them for the weekly challenges
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>>180549910
>>180550519
>got all perks to 25 using cheatengine
>having lots of fun in HoE

stay mad grindcucks
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>>180551172
>>180549910
>>180551024

>perk leveling cucks

Disgusting lazy asses
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>>180551254
How are grinders lazy? Wouldn't cheatengine fuckers be lazy? They still had to level those classes, and remember: TW still won't put out "skip remaining trader time".
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>>180551254

To be fair TW is infamous for their "progression" systems

So I dont really give a fuck
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>>180551254
>>180551526
>>180551808

>Intelligent people with jobs and responsibilities get to play on HoE along with the best players instantly without grind.
>NEETs spend hours and hours having to deal with literal retards in Suicidal difficulty and under.
>Autists spend hours and hours on monotonous grinding perk maps.

GRINDKEKS ETERNALLY BTFO
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>>180552028
Eh, alright that's reasonable. Esp. if you played KF1 more than 150-200 hours there is no fucking need to have to fucking regrind the fuck out of the perks again.
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So I remember people bitching about the HZ12 sights being fucked? Wew, get ready for this fuckery. That's not the half of it.

http://imgur.com/a/Cok2G

Just from this gallery I count 6 weapons that aren't centered (5 that matter, MWG isn't exactly for brain surgery).
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>no bolt action rifle
>no classic AKM/AK47
>no grenade luncher with drum mag
>too few melee weapons
Come on, step it up.
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>>180552553
With the release of Rising Storm Vietnam it was the perfect opportunity to add a mosin and classic AK-47 in KF2

Of course TWI is so fucking lazy and incompetent the idea didn't occur to them
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What if combat medics gave bonuses that apply in an aura around them instead of applying through healing?
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>>180552028
>people with jobs get to play on HoE with others
And be a deadweight who makes others carry for him. inb4 angry leech, I got a job too but being a levelbooster is no better than being a shitter who grindmap boosts from 0-25 except they actually did something in the game, may as well put your aimhax on or kill yourself every start of the wave if you're that lazy to play the game
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>>180552028
You don't learn the nuances of the perks in perk leveling maps.
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>>180552028
So how do I even use cheat engine
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At first I was disappointed that all the weekly servers were on hard, but then I learned that no-one can fucking aim. At least sharpshooter is easy to carry with.

Also headshot-only crawlers are the final boss of Killing Floor.
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>>180552521
So they fucked up other weapons with the recent sss update?
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Humblebundle was giving away KF1 yesterday (maybe still today not sure)

Anyways, Im looking into buying KF2. I've heard snippets of micro-transaction talk here and there. Sure I set aside any extra money for the in-game shop or is it just all cosmetic stuff?
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>>180553380
It's all cosmetic stuff, and there's only a handful of cosmetics that actually look good.
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>>180552929
Well I think he might be onto something about the job thing. There was someone earlier who had a rough experience/round ratio. That definitely sounded like suffering. Additionally, people who play at exceedingly low difficulties don't learn the nuances of enemies.

I have seen zerkers stand in a husks face trying to bodyshot them on Suicidal only for the husk to flamenwerfer them to death. They were level 25. I think there's definitely an argument that while grinders might not learn the nuances of the game via grinding, that people also don't necessarily learn how harsh the higher difficulties are. Maybe just because someone is level 25, doesn't mean they know what they are doing? Maybe pubs are always shit until proven otherwise.

I get it. You see a guy at level cap, and think "yeah he can do this". It would be great if that level actually correlated with skill, but it doesn't.
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>>180553380
It's all cosmetic. It won't bother you.

It just bothers a majority of KF1 vets because some of the fan favorite characters are paid skins now (classic foster, wilkes, and gary glover).

>>180553506
I already put in huge hours in KF1 with all perks maxed there's no way I'm doing that shit again plus I already know how this game works. If grindplebs wanna get mad at me, sorry but not sorry.
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>>180552664
This game could use loads of more weapons. They don't have to fill a new role imo, just add some flavour. Just fiddle with mag size/fire rate/recoil/damage(marginally) and pump out some variety
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>>180553143
I say hs-only stalkers are worse.
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>>180553901
As someone with 350+ hours in this, 500 in KF1 and still not maxed in everything? Don't be sorry. Fuck this grinding. If you know how to play and actually do the research? Shine on you Crazy Diamond.
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>>180553424
>>180553901
Thank you
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTdfedt9B48
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>>180554551
>zeds are just generic zombies with skin falling off and torn clothes
>breakout isn't because of patriarch going nuts
>horzine guards getting overwhelmed by 20 slashers
Thanks for reminding me how shit that video is
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>>180553901
>"I'm a KF1 veteran"
>Dies every wave
This is how it works 9/10 times on pubs, especially with fucktards on HoE who had lvl 25 perks and were going full retard mode
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what if KF2 kept track of how long you played a class and others could see?
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>Throw some money at the useful medic sitting at the trader.
>Money passes through him and just falls at his feet.
>Firebug sprints up and takes all the cash.
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>>180556428
Well then everyone would know how much of a complete loser I am.
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>>180556428
People would just leave it idle overnight.
The only way to filter out who's used a perk training map is to report which map you've earned most XP in.
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>>180556428
With a little analysis you can spot some superperk fags. Like having all achievements for reaching level 25 in one day or having achievement for completing a HoE map, but not having any official map ones. Or just being really bad or really stupid during the game.
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>>180552553
>too few melee weapons
what about gorillion different knives no one uses. Many guns only needed if they are meaningfully different from each other
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>>180524335


>using burst fire

Disgusting
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How do I play with you fags?
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>>180558325
You don't. We're all ghosts. This is a dead mans general.
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Am I the only one that see a tendency with people voting Yes on every votekick even though the reason is completely stupid and just hinders the team?. Like I've seen people getting kicked because they took an ammo box before somebody else and they were on the same weapon tier. Or people going apeshit if you ask them why don't they use Supplier as Support and getting kicked out because of it. Hell, I've seen Medics getting kicked by some guy who ran away from the team on his own, initiated a votekick and people went Yes even though the medic was doing good job at healing. Obviously we were wiped out the next wave.

And it's not even that there was a group of friends there, just complete randoms having fun from getting people removed from the server.
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>>180442524
>want to play Field Medic with battle Medic perk tree because I wanna be stronk and the DoT sounds cool
>the DoT is limited to his weapons only, so can only buy the same 4 weapons
>the perk poison bonus doesn't even apply to the dual 9mm despite it being listed alongside Medic's perk weapons

This is fucking stupid. If they were going to never give the Medic anything beyond his basic set of weapons, why even bother going for the retarded techy shit? And it's not like the weapons transform like how people were hoping it'd be, they're literally just neon and white guns. Just scrap the crap and make it so that Medic gets a heal dart attachment for any gun he equips, and it's a firing mode you toggle between like rapid fire or 3-round burst. He'd still be special snowflake enough because of his perk bonuses to healing and him being the only one who can use heal darts.
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>grind 5 tickets
>yellow and blue clown hat
>grind 5 more tickets
>yellow and blue clown hat again
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>>180561059
This happened to me too, 2 stupid rainbow hats. I don't feel like going for more tickets.
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>>180559765
have been playing on hard this entire event, never seen anyone getting kicked. I only got kicked once myself, but that was as soon as i joined
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>>180561059
>Grind 4 tickets
>Suddenly not getting drops even though it's been 10+ hours since I last played a round
Did they change drop rates back to once every 24 hours or what
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What's the deal with SWAT's tactical movement skill? Crouching doesn't save you from anything and nor does the extra move speed. that doesn't help much while crouching. Even more stupid thing is that it gets disabled if you're crouching and use your self heal, or if you level up and unlock a new perk item while the wave is going.
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>>180563683
>or if you level up and unlock a new perk item while the wave is going
Why is this a thing? It's bloody annoying
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>>180558279
>not using burst fire as a substitute for the sa80 and going straight for the ak.
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>>180564449
>burst fire being any faster than semi
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kfg should become tripwire general so that we can discuss rising storm and the like
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>>180564965
No
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>>180563683
It's a love it or hate it skill. Crouching slightly improves recoil, and some people use it to crouch-backpedal while headshotting big zeds.
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>>180564965
>it ain't meme game is already dying
Ecks dee.
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>>180558325
Join the discord :3
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>>180564815
>getting to skip the sa80 straight to ak
how is that a bad thing?
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>>180565505
Nobody said anything about the shitty bullpup.
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>>180565676
Sure I did, you're just choosing not to remember, but I got you senpai >>180564449
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I get most heals as firebug
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>>180565957
Any medic in a game where this happens needs to be burned at the stake.
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>>180566120
ofc if there's medic he outheals me, but i agree
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>>180565768
Yes, and the post he was replying to had nothing to do with that weapon.
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is there a mod that replaces rae with any other character clientside?
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>>180566354
why would one want to replace bae?
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>>180566337
Part of the continued conversation isn't it? at least we're keeping the thread bumped to.
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>>180565417
So is this game. The general can't even survive that long unless there's an event.
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>>180566445
she's annoying, i don't need tumblrina in my kf
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>>180566354
Tripwire killed custom models that work online so no.
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>>180566621
shame on you
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>>180550758
this makes me sad
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I wish leveling didn't take so long
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>>180554009
Not on Hard. If they were Suicidal Stalkers where they move like spastic bitches, sure, but on Hard they don't have the agility to make them too annoying.
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Was bored one day, ran settings to high and body count to max. It was an interesting game alright.
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>>180566527
Good, better ded than retarded discord circleyiff.
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>>180568151
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>>180568151
>body count to max
There is no max apart from what you set though.
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>>180568528
True. I used kf 2 tweaker's highest setting, somewhere about 100 corpses or something.
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>>180557981
>only if they're meaningfully different from another
Nope. I don't say it should be cluttered but I'm getting tired of the smame old weapons
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>>180571096
we just need dwarfs axe back, i bet the insta gib alt would be a lot of fun with new gore system
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>>180571331
>no full auto pistol
>no uzi
>no musket/derringer
>no torch (fire/zerker crossover)
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>>180571631
I think the centrefire is what we're getting instead of the musket and we already have 2 different revolvers
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>>180571927
>2 different revolvers
you mean 3
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>>180571631
Torch sounds a little tame. Kick it up to a thermal lance instead.
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>>180571631
>No m32
>No Tommy gun
>No husk gun
>No scythe
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Why the fuck is player collision active during trader time?
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>>180571631
>>180572367
>no harpoon cannon
>no medic flamethower/sniper/C4/chainsaw
>no ZED Gun
>no Orca
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>>180573160
The seal squeal was pure sex.
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>>180572601
Servers can deactivate it. But for some retarded reason, default is active.
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>>180567285
Tripwire had a thread already about Ninja. It's closed iirc, and so is the one about necroing the ninja thread. In the latter one majority of the posters in the survey said they didn't want it, and at least one person said they would quit if ninja became a thing. Several people basically sperged and said something to the effect of "FUCKING WEEABOOS. THIS IS OUR GAME!"

The community did this. The community killed Martial Artist chan.
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>>180573160
i really liked orca, something about bouncing grenade rounds made it satisfying
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>>180572367
>No m32
It hurts
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What good are all these unlockables if im not willing to pay for a key? Is there anything I can do with them like crafting or something?
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>>180574859
ah yes, these edits
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>>180574934
sell them on the market
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>>180573160
Imagine Harpoon in KF2 with the option to manually detonate the projectile.
>stack 3 Harpoons into a Scrake head and send it flying to the moon
I love the M32 but mane, the Harpoon is definitely dope

>Medic grenade launcher
>saving retard left and right
>Medic sniper
>immediately stun zed
>Medic healthrower
>spray the healing juice
>Medic C4
urgh?? Like Demo C4 but upon detonation, you release massive toxic damage + heal?
>Medic Chainsaw
>normal chainsaw with dart attached, crossver with Berserker

ZED gun could come back as Survivalist perk weapons
>>180574002
Could have a ninja perk. Katana, bow and arrows, crossbow, shuriken, nun-chucks, smoke bombs, kunai, claws, traps and other cool gadget shit.
Perk passive is bonus damage, bonus movespeed and the ability to double jump.
No damage resistance to make it different from Zerk. Pure hit and run type of guy with some utility gear for crowd control. Think of Team Fortress 2 Scout but we give him a Ninja theme.
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>>180575027
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>>180574934
You can recycle them for one piece of the lowest quality crafting material or sell them for a few pennies.
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>sudden KF1 shilling on /v/

What did they meme by this? Are nostalgiafags trying to revive the game that way?
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medic tank
medic nuke
medic medic gun that shoots medics
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>>180575362
it's been given out for free retard, of course people would post about it
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Nuked feels like West London reincarnation, a map I'm always willing to play, the least favorite is probably nu-biotics. What's your favorite/least favorite maps?
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>>180575551
I know that dumbass.

There's a difference between discussing a free game and shitting up threads with KF1 WAS BETTER PLS PLAY KF1, you desperate cucks.
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>>180575362
>/v/
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>>180575903
I will never not be angry they added fucking microtransactions before half of the fucking content.
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>>180576047
Even with cosmetic microtransactions it's still a better game tho.
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medic cosmetics
medic weekly
medic boss
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>>180575873
Favorite: Volter Manor
Least favorite: all of the rest

I really miss the maps of the first game, the maps in this make me not wanna play.
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>>180575243
lmfao

why is this game so dead? it seems pretty good
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>>180575873
I like nuked as well

There really needs to be ports of the old KF1 maps. I loved Icebreaker so damn much I want a 1:1 copy in KF2.
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>want ticket
>get every USB in existence

Is the Stoner less dissapointing after the recent update?
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>>180577631
An extra 5 damage per bullet is actually pretty nice on a gun that fires 909 RPM.

>>180577516
>ports of the old KF1 maps
This would make the game 2000% more enjoyable. I wouldn't even care if the graphics were the same, I just want the expansiveness, variety and atmosphere of the KF1 maps back.
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>>180575873
Nuked with biotics/farmhouse being tied for least favorite.
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>>180577493
That's from when it was in Early Access, it averages around 5k players now
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>>180578215
Are you wanting them back officially or do you not know that some of the maps like west London and offices were ported over?
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>>180577493
memeing or not, its a pretty lowkey series thats never had a huge spotlight at least until this last year. top it with competing with other "zombie shooters" and its nothing to wow about on the cover of it all, you just need to play it to get the charm and memes of it
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Is there any chance at all of the medic weapons being changed to look less like actual shite
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>>180578510
I'm stuck on Sonybox until I can afford to replace my busted toaster...
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>>180579453
In terms of models changing completely? Afraid not.

On the workshop there have been a few decent reskinnings, from making the weapon itself darker/black to just removing the neons, give that shit a check out and see if it helps. I'd say it helps enough so its not such an eyesore to you.
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>>180579840
Oh, shit, I'm sorry.
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Anyone else get this feeling from the official maps that they're too small and too big at the same time, or is it just me?
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>>180578510
I want official 1:1 remakes of all KF1 maps.

Fuck nu-biotics.
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>download the game throughpsplus
>freezes while looping sounds with no way to fix besides closing the game whenever I try and load into a vs survival game or randomly when loading into/just loaded into a survival game
>this issue has been reported at least as early as december 2016
>they said they fixed it twice then haven't said shit since
ah yes, tripwire
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>>180580184
That's what I assumed, but you know what they say about assuming. It's doubtful that twi will put out official remakes, maybe they're afraid of giving the players the impression of having run out of ideas. Oh, hey there Mr. Gorefaster.
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>Shoot a gorefiend once in the head
>his head is now covered by two impenetrable adamantium blades and my bullets ricochet harmlessly while he charges at mach 3 towards me
>game actively encourages you to NOT go for the head
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>>180583203
I guess it's encouraging single popping of heads or shotgun body damage. I guess the scar is useful after all
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I decided to go back to KF1 this week after they give it out for free on Humble Bundle and there are more active players than usual. I did not know KF1 is this fucking difficult compared to KF2.
>no sprinting, have to pull out knife
>no parry/block, you have to stun Scrake and remember FP rage mechanic to kite FP
>you cannot outrun a raging Scrake
>Scrake head hitbox after it is stunned
>Support cannot carry 3 shotguns and has to conserve ammo by using offperk Flare Revolver/MK23
>no Zed time skill
>Berserker weapon attack speed is much slower compared to KF2's one
>Husk has a fucking aimbot
>no auto HP regen for Zerk
>Zeds are slow but quite lethal once they get close
>have to wait for Crawler to jump you, move back and go forward to kill it as Berserker if you don't want fucking camera shake
>Sirens shut down Demo hard because no more Sonic Resistance skil
>flashlight is attached to certain guns

KF2 play style is vastly different from KF1. I have to admit that parry/block is a really good get out of jail free card. Good Zerk could literally take no damage in KF2 just by parrying. All left Medic can keep you alive all the time. I fuck around a lot in KF2 and still win. In KF1, one single error and the team gonna get wiped. While KF2 Sharp is not as good as KF1 counterpart, Railgun + SPX Centerfire is like a better M99 loadout when you can take out both big zeds and trash. M14 is also easier to use in KF2 with Ballistic Shock stun.
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>>180584412
Is it really more active? Haven't touched it for a long while, I might reinstall and play.

Maybe I can still carry HoE games with the katana+axe+LAR zerk loadout.
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>>180584412
KF1 is far easier desu
>Can kite and control HoE FPs infinitely because no endless rage
>Lining up and doing headshots easier since things move far slower
>it cant be understated how much harder it is to keep damage on up a sharpshooter because of how fast and how fluid the animations in 2 are
>Can't just always aim at head high for maximum DPS, things like gorefiends will either force you to use a single shot decap weapon or go for bodyshots instead


Obviously the weakness of both games are huge open maps, but it's far more obvious in KF1 on maps like Farm, you are literally invincible as long as you just keep moving because there is no way for the zeds to ever catch up.
Probably person preference because I enjoy sharpshooter the most but KF2 feels far harder because there is more going on moment to moment and landing headshots is harder.
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>>180585734
>Is it really more active?
It peaked at 15k players today.
KF2 peaked at 6k
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>>180585734
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>>180509229
I don't like how the neck is exposed.
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>>180586236
>One of the most important places to protect.
>Completely unguarded.
goodo jobu
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>>180584412
>>Support cannot carry 3 shotguns
You can with the lame ones.
>>Husk has a fucking aimbot
More important of a difference of strategy than accuracy. KF2 husks want a direct hit and shoot at where they think you'll be by time the fireball hits, so there's the fireball's line of travel to dodge. KF1 husks want a hit, so they shoot the ground where they think you'll be by time the fireball hits, so there's the explosions' sphere of splash damage to dodge.
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>>180586490
>KF1 husks want a hit, so they read your inputs and fire at where they know you'll be.
FTFY
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>>180585971
>shoot head
>hit air to the side of the head or even above it
>counts as a body hit
no risk vs reward in kf1, headshot attempts were simply always best, no matter how sloppy you were playing.
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>>180586848
>KF1 husks want a hit, so they read your mind and fire at where you know you'll be
Fixed that fix for you.
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>>180587380
>KF1 husks want a hit, so they use mind control to make you dodge into their shots and make you think it was your idea.
Fixed that fix that you fixed for you.
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>>180587634
Husk'll always be my favorite. Wish they brought back his original Sideshow design instead of this poorly voiced new one. Even if he fits the theme better.

D O N T W A S T E F I R E
T H I N K O F A L L T H E S T A R V I N G C H I L D R E N
A N D H O W G O O D T H E Y W O U L D T A S T E O N F I R E
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>feel bad using perk training maps on KF2
>don't want to grind each perk for 50 hours to max out when I'm autistic about maxing stuff out in vidya
JUST
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>>180588564
I don't judge you, Anon. The game's most fun at the higher levels and what you're expected to learn while grinding is nowhere near complex enough to warrant the several years of level-gimped repetition it would take otherwise.
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>>180588942
Thank you senpai
Just going to play the first few levels of each perk legit then grind it out the rest of the way
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>level 25 on DefenceThyself
Why though?
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>>180589559
Usually because I'm full of hooch and want a good easy time.

The cheap hooker of maps, you know?
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>>180589830
Makes sense.
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>>180587186
I like KF1 zeds design more.They look like B-movie horrible abominations that are going to bitchslap the fuck out of you gormless tossers. Plus the gritty aesthetics of the maps.
>>180586490
AA12/DBS is always the endgame loadout for Support in both KF1 and KF2. The HSG is fun but I like DBS for the Scrake uppercut
>>180588508
Mechanical man is better than the current Husk.
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>>180592121
>Plus the gritty aesthetics of the maps
This does a lot for KF1 in my opinion. KF2's maps look too clean. KF1 always makes you feel like you are actually going into an infested area to clear out zeds because of how gritty everything looks.
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Rae is Bae
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>>180593303
Anon please I was eating
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>>180593303
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>>180593303
delet this
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>>180593303
>tfw ausfag
why must you do this to us tripwire
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>>180593303
be careful what you post, this is a blue board
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>>180593303
Just when you thought they couldn't do any worse than Ana...
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Did anyone post this and I just missed it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5nSS90fdG4&t=25s

Guess someone got into the code and got the new challenges up and running on what I'm to assume are private servers or in solo mode.
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>>180593303
Can't they just bring back Mrs Foster? I don't care if she's got a grating voice, at least her face's behind a mask.
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>>180593303
She's in the trash bag
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>>180594546
>Did anyone post this and I just missed it?
Yes.
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>>180575161
See yeah, everyone is focusing on stealth, but I'm imagining like,a handful of 2-4 weight block weapons that are low damage, high status. Also ranged options would be relatively short ranged, but effective (maybe combined with a weapon switch speed bonus and a movement speed buff) being a sort of "range heckler". Imagine someone being able to goad a husk into doing his flamethrower, then backing up safely, or throwing caltrops for a snare effect.
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>>180588508
R E D H O T, I T S Y O U.
R E D H O T, I T S M E.
F I R E
T R Y I T. Y O U L L L I K E I T.
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>>180595524
>heckler
I think 'harrier' is the word you were looking for, unless your concept for the Urban Ninja is a guy that just spams Taunt Zeds the whole game.
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>>180596123
heckling is a contextual word
you can use harrying in the context of saying rude words to a performer as you can in the context of shooting nigras
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>>180596123
>>180596306
Yeah, I was basing it off of the TF2 scout's "range heckling" where they run in and out of shotgun range, making people either constantly switch weapons, or wasting shotgun ammo at a longer range than they should use shotguin.
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>>180596306
You've completely mixed up the two words in your post.
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>>180593303
>>180593359
>>180593421
>>180593783
>>180593913
>>180594015
>>180594045
>>180594712
So much hate for Rae "Starting to feel like the 1 percent"
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>>180596848
TWI can't make a good female character
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>>180596969
They made the KF1 Trader
I'd love to have her back, playable, in HD
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>>180597028
Please no.
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>>180597028
You know they'd just screw her up
>CAN'T HAVE SEXUAL INNUENDO IN OUR SAFESPACE GAME
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>>180597365
Gave me hen flesh
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>>180592342
>KF2's maps look too clean.
I think they did that to show the contrast of all the persistant blood.
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>>180597826
Which sucks either way because it looks more like jelly rather than the remains of a bloodied fight.
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>>180592342
Yeah atmosphere between games is a strange one. KF1 has more of a rusty and thick atmosphere going for it, everythings been attacked and had time to decay away, hell you can even see the damage done with bodies flung around.

KF2 just reminds me of some sci-fi fantasy with all the neon lights, machinery and shit that everyone just seems to have ran away from about 24 hours ago, just been roughed up a bit.
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>>180598303
Right? It looks more like some hooligans rolled through after the last footy game.
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>>180597028
With no innuendo and a black character? That's a slice of fried gold my son! Get that sjw cuck on the line, we'll make some money yet!
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>>180598303
KF2 is a Christian approved game lol.
Players body are not exploding into gibs. No swear words. Everything is PG-13. However the gore is maximum for the zeds because "zeds are not human so it is totally fine to have zed gore".
For fuck sake, I don'see any human body after the zed outbreak. We see some blood on the street and black trash bags? So someone decided to put all the victims into black body bags after the outbreak? Wow, really fucking nice guy.
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>>180599397
Why is there no Viscera Cleanup Detail tie-in for KF2?
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>>180599621
Nobody cares for that meme "game" anymore?
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>>180599397
>For fuck sake, I don'see any human body after the zed outbreak.
There's several bodies on a bunch of maps though. Stuff like The Descent and Volter Manor's also have all those skinned bodies.
It's not as gritty as KF1 of course, but they are there.
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>Patriarch in KF1 one-shots you if you have no armor on Hard mode
300 hours and somehow I don't remember this.

>inb4 only 300
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>>180600485
THIS IS THE END OF YOU
PRRRRRRRRT
>Player1 was killed by the Patriarch

To be fair though, KF2 Patty can also turn you into swiss cheese pretty fast on HoE. Plus those mortar rockets often catch people off guard, and it's not uncommon that 3 people die to a single barrage of them.
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>>180600892
I'm not even talking about the gatling gun. He just straight up melee'd me for all my HP.
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>>180600485
>>180600892
>>180600985
Wow, I remember it all now, holy shit
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>>180575873
Infernal realm with Catacombs being least favorite.
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>>180600985
Fleshpound also takes any perk that's not a Berserker from 100A/100H to 0A/20H in one hit if I remember correctly.

KF1 in general gave you a lot less room to fuck up.
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>>180601432
A simple mistake can cost you the game in KF, KF 2 gives a little bit of leeway, but at the same time since the zeds are more animated, it is able to present its own challenges.
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>>180600892
>One in the pipe.mp3
>few seconds of nothing
>ear rape of explosions as it hit the demo's Pipe Bomb clutch
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IT MAKES THE JUICE COME OUT
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All of the colors, especially reed. hihihihihihiHAHAHAHAHAAeieieieiei
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>>180603109
I DO CHILDREN'S PARTIES TOO!
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>two Firebugs on team

>one is the top player, ends up being the last one alive during the boss
>single-highhandedly takes 6-man Suicidal Pat from near-full yellow to near red despite being one of the worse anti-boss Perks
>dies anyway, but understandable given the circumstances

>other is just barely above the Medic and a noobish Support
>every time I see them their somehow struggling to kill trash, as fucking Firebug
>runs through the money pile right before the boss, doesn't give back any of it, doesn't even fucking buy anything, has 7400 dosh when the wave starts
>dies instantly

Fucking Christ. I wish people would remember the first kind of Firebug more (especially since it's one of my favorite classes too) but I see why people can get so angry about this Perk.
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Dosh, grab it while you can lads.
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How do you play, /kfg/?
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>>180605774
With your moms tits, nerd.
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>>180605774
With the trader, Rae, and Ana's voice lines deleted.
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>>180605774
I've got that unchecked, but the characters don't say sweet fuck all to each other. Also have that trader bitch's voice deleted.
>>180605947
I just went and checked, color me surprised and stupid for not realizing that you could also delete individual character's voices too.
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>>180575873
A thing I noticed no one mention about Nuked that I thoroughly enjoy. The lighting. It's not blindly bright like Outpost and at the same time it's not pitch black like Farmhouse or the Catacombs map. The perfect balance if you ask me, and the nuke effects and the sirens add to the already great atmosphere the map has.
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>>180576382
>medic weekly: get thanked for heals
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>>180552664
I would have liked RS2 guest characters too
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>level 25 support with 10 hours plays the whole game with the trenchgun
>switches to the M79 for the boss wave and sits back missing shots until we wipe
>private profile, no display pic
>50 kills in 11 waves on suicidal
Fuck
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>>180592342
Nuked is certified KF1gritty (tm)
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>>180602569
KNIFE GOES IN
GUTS COME OUT
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FUCK THESE FIREBUGS WHO DO ZERO TRASH CONTROL AND JUST PISS OF SCRAKES AND SET PRE-RAGED FPS ON FIRE REEEEEEEEEEE
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>>180608874
it's not possible to do zero trash control as firebug, if you press left mouse button trash lights up on fire all over around you
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When does carnival end? I miss the old zeds
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>>180608369
These fucking people are almost enough to make me wish for DotA-esque ban lists. Like I don't know how else you get the worst people to just fuck off.
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>>180609918
Just a bit less than 3 weeks left.
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>>180609845
It is when they use a trench gun and flare revolvers.
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>>180610870
they all light ground on fire, trench also has big spread
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>>180608369
How. I average more than that with my knife in less than three waves.
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>>180607732
>Affirmative
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You're all shit.
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could be worse
i could be (you)
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Do you think Ana shaves down there
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>>180611931
Which one is Ana?
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>>180612392
',:^(
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>>180612434
I detest both female characters to the point I don't even know the damn names. You know what though anon? I bet she does shave, she shaves and then glues the pubes on her head.
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>>180611475
Maybe he lives next door, to (You)
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>>180612903
kek

Speaking of pointless shit that nobody uses, has anyone in the entirety of the game's lifetime ever chosen Fragmentation Rounds over Sonic Resistant Rounds? Is Frag Rounds the most completely worthless skill in the game?
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>>180611931
She's an "artsy" french anarchist. I'd be surprised if she shaves her legs.
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>>180611931
>>180613681
She's a counterculture hedonist, I'm pretty sure she shaves.
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>>180613528
No, and I can't see why anyone would. you are literally choosing to do less damage, or be immune to the one thing that makes your shots whiff.

Bear in mind that only the level 5 perk actually boosts explosive damage. The others only boost impact damage from the projectile, so if you take Frag rounds you are literally doing less explosive damage than a Survivalist. Let that sink in for a moment.
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>>180612903
brave
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>>180613528
>Is Frag Rounds the most completely worthless skill in the game?
Yes. It's the only skill with a fucking downside, and it's competing with siren resistance.
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>>180613681
>>180613994
No, she's a nu-anarcho pseudo-capitalistic demi-commie. She no longer recognizes the old-world concepts of shaved and unshaved.
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I want this in kf
fire - spill gas
alt fire - matches
canister is a magazine
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>>180614551
Bam! Found a new firebug weapon that isn't neon, and something to give survivalist that makes them actually resemble a prepper. Give this man a fucking medal because that right there is a gun content update by itself.

now if only we could get the fucking M99 for sharpshooter
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>>180615258
>M99 for Sharp
This. Make it a fucking reskin if they want. I'm just sick of feeling like I'm using a toy gun every time I switch to the Rail Gun.
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>>180614551
Napalm launcher for firebug when?
M202 when?
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>>180615737
Toy gun holy crap my sides lol
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>>180615737
I don't don't get why they deviated from their original content in favor of this.
>inb4 Tripwire forum users asked for it.
Tripwire forum users: Hate the Martial Artists, but wanted nerf guns.

Well now I feel like having a drink.
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BETTER RUN THROUGH THE JUNGLE
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>>180593303

>Convict Island
>Bae

"No"
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>>180613528
I can't imagine anyone would, the description makes it sound so utterly shit.
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>>180616079
"4 U" -Tripwire
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>>180616613
>>180285207
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>>180614245
I bet she shaves one half of her body and the other is all natural, because she's strong and independent and don't need no man. No, but seriously, which one of the fucking bitches are we talking about again?
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>>180617010
so they both have charging handles, though not on the same side
and they both have scopes
what else
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See you on the other side fuckers.
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You all now remember that there will never be a good female character in KF2. Let us rejoice in mutual suffering.
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>>180617010
I appreciate the effort, but this railgun design (minus colors) is pretty common in sci-fi in general
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>>180619434
It's not really a joke about them stealing from Hasbro, as much as it is "the weapon does not actually have the right feel or aesthetic that people wanted". If you are a /k/ommando, then you might recall similar jokes about the "Matel-16".
Anyway. A lot of people are sick of the neon future guns when perfectly valid weapons already exist.
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>>180620593
I still think they should bring back Mrs. Foster. Her voice was a tad obnoxious, but at least she doesn't have some ridiculous punk/rockabilly style or force us to stare at an ugly face. I'm actually a bit perplexed as to why they'd come up with these new awful female characters before implementing the original.
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>>180620669
It's less about "look where this came from" and more "there was a perfectly valid option to port from KF1 (I know it's not porting, hell it's not even the same engine), that fills the same role (targets, damage, fire rate, weight, etc)." I'm not sure how popular this shit is on steam or whatnot, but when sharpshitter came out I definitely don't recall people talking about how much they loved the design. I do however recall people constantly bitching about how it looked.
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>>180621180
>Mrs. Foster character pack is released
>It's an alternate costume for Mr. Foster
>same exact voice lines except pitch altered
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What do you think of my demolition costume?
I'm thinking of buying another gas mask to go with it.
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>>180621501
Jesus! Shut up shut up! Tripwire could be listening! Don't give them any ideas.
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>>180621180
Fuck you, I like punk, goth, rockabilly chicks.
Best white girls, all non-tattooed white girls are boring, pumpkin spice swilling, and are into vanilla sex in the misisonary position.

I can't think of a more boring person to be with.
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>>180621254
Y'know, I wouldn't even mind the futuristic concepts of the Medic weapons and Railgun if they just gave them a more grounded look. You can have a high-tech railgun with a target-assisting scope and everything, just don't make it look like you yanked it outta Halo 4.
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>>180621718
Very retarded post, my dude.
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>>180621591
>Ana
It's shit, sorry anon
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>>180621718
>Implying they're not a bunch of vapid posers
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>>180621591
oh shit I think i've seen you ingame before
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I fucking hate Gorefiends so god damn much. Every time I see one it's ruining my game in the most unfair way possible.
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>>180621718
Brood fuck off with your tat fetish and just make a decent female character already.
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>>180622606
Then I have a present for you.
Note that the upper part of the head is guarded by the sword, however, the neck is completely covered by the head's hitbox. while beyblades and the "guard and charge" suck, this might help.
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>>180577516
>>180578215
Someone's already ported a few of the KF1 maps. Tripwire has to prop them up with achievements, bugfixes and blood decals, and maybe some trinkets if they'd want to make them official though.
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>>180623460
>tfw had to play demolitionist so I dont have to deal with the gorefiend's bullshit
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>>180624663
>prop them up with blood decals
Why?
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>>180624880
I hadn't checked on the maps in like a year. Last I did, some of them didn't have them.
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>>180624709
Funny you say that since Demo's what I was playing when I made this >>180622606 post, since they auto-fuck me as soon as they catch me in close range.
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>>180624946
You mean the permanent blood system didn't work? It does work fine on these maps i checked.
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>>180621501

Fuck me and fuck my sides an idea so fucking hilariously lazy and shit that I'm sure it's exactly what TW are planning.
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THE NEW SCRAKE SOUNDS LIKE AN OBVIOUS FAKE RETARD
THE NEW FLESHPOUND LOOKS LIKE ABSOLUTE ASS. WHAT IS HE EVEN SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE, SOMEONE WHO PUT CHOCOLATE ICE CREAM CONES AS MAKEUP?
THE NEW HUSK IS A UNIFORMLY GARBAGE MESS WHO ALSO ALSO OBVIOUSLY SOUNDS LIKE A THIRD RATE SHITTY VOICE ACTOR NO VOICE MODULATION CAN SAVE
THE STALKERS ARE SILENT
THE BLOAT IS okay
NEW PATTY IS STILL HOT GARBAGE AND I DON'T THINK HE EVEN HAS NEW LINES
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>>180625798
Who cares? You shoot them.
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>>180625798
KF1's scrake was basically the same voice lines
Don't remember the FP, but the costume is fucking stupid.
The Husk in KF1 was a fucking mechanical man who's lines were all based around him trying to sell you fire! This was solid fucking gold! Instead we get Voodoo McShitlord
Stalkers had some solid KF1 lines. It's definitely fucking absent, but it's better than THE FUCKING HUSK
Bloat is basically KF1 bloat lines and all.
Patty got zero effort, so that's the grade he gets.

This is pretty fucking bullshit, but at least the hitboxes are redone (except the siren unless she has a metal bra on).
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>>180626231
The mad hatter fits the dark carnival theme KF2's event is going for. KF1's was more steampunk. I also hated the robot because of the confusing hitboxes. I hope that they make the Husk Scrooge for the winter event so that he goes bah humbug and tries to ruin Christmas by setting everything on fire. And then the Patriarch can stay big daddy Santa Claus while the Bloat is not Santa Claus #2, but a Snowman who shits out and vomits yellow snow.
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>>180626191
Faggot
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>>180626231
The scrake is a deliberate callback, except stripped of its charm.
Exactly like the game itself. The descent is supposed to be hell, except every part lookslike as much like a theme park as kingdom.

https://youtu.be/UliBwhAPefA?t=4m53s
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Why are the dual 9mms so satisfying with Funslinger?
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>>180627017
buffs
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Putting weapons in tiers before balancing them is bad game design. It discourages actual variety and condamns some weapons to never ever use tier.
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>>180575873
Outpost, I like snow levels overall.

Also does anyone else have the worst luck when it comes to drops, last 4 drops were crates/usb's
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Just started playing Zerker, is the Kat really as good as I've been told?
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>>180630463
Yes. Need to learn how to use it. It + Eviscerator can carry you pretty far.
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>>180630463
Best trash killer there is if you pick the light damage and attack speed perks. Combo with the real time zed movement and you waltz through entire mobs of garbage zeds like they weren't even there.
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>>180630547

How do you mean? Does it have a specific method of use other than "Aim for head, swing like hell, lrn 2 parry"?
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>>180630707
Yeah but doing it consistently is the hard part. Especially when you're under pressure.
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>>180630760

So just need to practice for consistency with my headshots and I'll be good, right?

And is the Evi better than the Pulverizer for bigger enemies, or is it picked just for the sake of a ranged option?
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>>180630760
being in the zone and twitching headshots left and right makes me DOSH
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never forget.
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>>180633142
This was fun.
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>>180611368
I LOVE YOU HEALMEME
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>>180621180
If Mrs. Foster got a new voice much like Mr. Foster did or sounded a lot less shrill in general, I could put up with it.

Or just filter it like Fosters voice because of the mask, that would work too and yet its a shame because I like Fosters voice, its unique and still fits with the original brit theme, which sadly can't be said for Scully. Why did they do this to him? ;_;
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>got the pig mask
Fucking sick
Is there anywhere where I can see what the other ones look like?
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For a few days I tried to do do weekly in MP and weekly servers are split 50/50 between being overrun with lvl 0-5 shitters who don't know what they're supposed to do, keep on being wiped on wave 3 while screeching that KF is worse than L4D, when the other half are all lvl 25 players playing exclusively the summer map to do muh summer cheevos and you need to wait a fucking decade because they can't hit anything.

Then I did it on first attempt on solo.

It's like how fucking rank KF1 was during sales, except now the game is garbage as well.
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>>180633142
post more
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>>180636921
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>>180599397
People still swear.
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Why is Masterson so perfect
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>>180628813
I had that same shit happen to me the other day. 4 useless crates to break down for nothing. I want to believe that they set it up so that crates could drop instead of tickets every four hours, but this if fucking tripwire, and the simpler truth is that they are so incompetent that they probably couldn't figure out how to keep the stupid things from being included in the four hour ticket drops. At least these last five tickets weren't a total loss, would have preferred purple, or red if that exists. but at least is looks like it could be part of his uniform.
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>>180635252
As for being able to see them on the characters, you're sol.
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>>180636921
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>>180637708
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>>180636964
>>180637708
>>180637778
more
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>>180621501
More like
>Mrs. Foster cosmetic pack is released for Rae and Ana
>Cash shop exclusive
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>>180639903

>tfw no chocolate SS gf

It ain't easy.
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>>180639903
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>>180452140
Huh, I got the human cannon hat
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>>180640210
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>>180640093
SS-chan should have thunder thighs from all that crouching she does.
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Just dropping a stupid question: I refunded the game after it came out of early access, dick move I know, if I buy it again will I get all the perk levels back?
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>>180640310
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>>180640391
kys
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So uh.. What gives? I did all the season challenges, but I didn't get my hazmat suit.
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>>180620593
Ash Harding's return when?
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>>180640839
They ran out of them
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>>180640839
You could always try restarting the game
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How should I be fighting 6p Scrakes and Fleshpounds as a Support? Is there anything I should be doing beyond just shooting them in the head with the AA-12 when appropriate?
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>>180642983
Yell at your sharpshooter to sharpshoot better.
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>>180642712
I did. My steam inventory seems to be bugged, says I have one item in Killing Floor 2 but it errors out. This blows.
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>Red clown nose
>Purple voodoo hat
>Crash test dummy helmet
The tickets never drop but atleast I usually get decent shit when they do.
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>>180599993
Don't excuse Tripwires lazy reuse of the bodies from Volter Manor. Those skinned bodies make sense in the Volter Manor basement and basically nowhere else.

TWI are playing a continuous game of catch up in an attempt to live up to what made KF1 great when that should have been the starting point of KF2.
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>>180608369
the majority of 25s I see on weekdays are boosted
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>>180645013
TWI are making their own game that already surpasses KF1 you fucking grog.
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>leveling my lvl11 swat on Hard
>19 zerker connects
>welds doors on anyone below him level-wise, shittalks us, doesn't share money, runs away when we run to him with a scrake/fp on us, is overall a cunt
>call him out on it
>"lmao crying on hard xddd"
>still somehow manages to die on Hans as a 19 zerker on HARD
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>>180646664
Where was the kick vote though?
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>>180646725
i guess the others didn't care that much, it was on evacuation point so there weren't that many doors to lock us in because we usualy stood outside the buildings
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>>180635131
I think Scully is just as good as Foster though. Them, the old gits, Alberts, Banner the Knight, and Strasser are the only ones worth playing as.
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>>180647948
>Them, the old gits, Alberts, Banner the Knight, and Strasser are the only ones worth playing as.
Top fucking taste.
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>It's a "Rae or Ana player joins the server" episode
Reminder to not share any money with these people, and votekick them at the earliest sign of a fuck up.
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>>180648928
>this MGTOW autism

*tips GP-5*
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>MGTOW

what does this have anything to do with unattractive characters with annoying voice lines?

not even getting a (you)
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KF2 still alive?
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>>180651507
>4.8k as of last night
>10.0k for KF1

You be the judge
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>Trying to headshot a monkey Scrake with the Rail Gun
Why do I have so much trouble with this crap, holy shit. Their walking throws me off and I seem to hit their body 50% of the time.
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>>180651673
>Comparing a game available for free to paid
2 was also exceeding 10k during the free week.
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>apparently 14k people on KF1
>boot it up
>can't find a server
cut my life into pieces
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>>180651917
>2 was also exceeding 10k during the free week.
I saw 7k at most.
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>>180651917
For a game like KF you don't need big numbers either way. Standard matches only fill 6 people.
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>>180652042
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>>180652220
Additionally you should expect KF1 to exceed 10k more frequently than 2 during free week because being available for free permanently is going to draw in more people than being free temporarily.
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>>180651917
>>180652042
>>180652052
>>180652220
>>180652568
Neither game has had a particularly sizable average playerbase throughout their lifetimes anyway so I don't know why we harp about player count so much.
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You see that bearded lady?

She's looking TIGHT.
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rae is bae

she thicc
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>>180621591
i like it
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So, Survivalist is the best perk right?
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When will they add girls that aren't tattoo-ridden slags that only talk about music/fashion?
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>>180654542
>Game themed for metalheads
Never. I've never known a female thats heavy into rock or metal that doesn't have a single tattoo.
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>>180637778
I want zerk-chan to beat me into a bloody pulp when I try to touch her medic-chan!
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>>180654542
Female Tom Banner re-skin when
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>>180654623
Not every person who is fighting for Horzine or against the Zeds has to be some autistic metal junky that breaks the fourth wall though.
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>>180654904
>breaks the fourth wall though
How exactly?
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>>180637043
Which Masterson?
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>>180655174
Rae mentions cuing the music when the round starts.
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I DONT KNOW WHY
I TRY


>tfw waiting for a welded door to bust open and unleash the horde
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>>180639967
This post just made me fucking dry heave.
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>>180654623
It's not themed to metalheads that much.
10/14 characters aren't particularly associated with music, 12/14 characters aren't particularly associated with metal.
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>>180654623
>implying two ugly hipsters are what metalheads want

Funny enough I showed this game to one of those monochromatic clowns and he started rambling how metalcore isn't metal.

>>180654904
Sorta this.

Worker Aldridge when
Banana Suit Man when
Paramedic when
Harold Lott when
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>>180655250
yes
I prefer new one just because of how the voice fits tbdesu
WHAT I WOULDN'T GIVE FOR A GOOD SLOPE AND A PAIR OF SKIS
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>>180655258
>one sorta on the edge quote
Literally unplayable and she's not a metalhead.
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Is it worth it to go with Parry over Resistance? Seems like I always just end up in situations where I don't have an opportunity to parry and end up dead without the passive resistance.
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>>180655486
I was talking with my friend about this. They would have to pay LODESOFMONE for Harold. What I would give for Agent Wilkes though, there's not enough money in the world for that
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>>180656774
Parry is almost always worth it. The trick is that the buff lasts 10 seconds, so you want to parry bait. Even if you can't benefit now, that's possibly right before you are greeted by a triple pounder with a side of french scrakes. Basically the only time it won't pay off is if a husk flamethrowers you and you haven't parried recently, or if a siren is just out of reach. Remember it also gives you a damage boost.
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>>180654542
Saw a mod on workshop that removes her tattoos, but fuck if that makes me want to use her in game. You ever wonder if they made her an aussie on purpose knowing that a good portion was going to dislike her?
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>>180657331
I use her with the most ugly cosmetics and spam voice commands with her.
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>be survivalist
>join suicidal server
>get kicked
wow some people are too bigoted in this game.
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>>180655384
>mfw finding out the door can kill you if you're close enough.
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>>180658352
strange, it won't me post images.
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>>180653679
finally a man of culture
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>>180658605
Except when it does. Maybe that message that images are corrupt are true after all.
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God damn the new stoner feels so good with the new change.
You just mow down trash so much more effectively and can rip into scrakes like they're tissue paper.
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When are we gonna get an EX 41?

Bonus points if it offers bouncy grenades as an alt fire
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>>180660456
>Bonus points if it offers bouncy grenades as an alt fire
I'd rather just have the Orca back, thanks
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>>180660456
Is that a thumper with an underbarrel grenade launcher? Gonna have to look that shit up now.
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>>180661171
anon...
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>>180661260
A multishot grenade launcher. Nice, but why just give us the M32?
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>>180656835
>Agent Wilkes
We have his armor, or you prefer kf1 version?
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>>180661454
Because the M32 was too OP. Did anyone ever choose the LAW over that?

If we're gonna get a multishot grenade launcher, it'll be more like the EX41.
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THE GUN

*sips cum*

THAT WON THE WEST
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>>180661454
The M32 would have to have shite damage to not be broken.
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>>180661689
I want the man himself, not the clothes
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>>180663197
kf1 wilkes biography:
some guy found an armor suit, like a really cool one, from horzine
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>>180663743
a 'cool' guy. I'd settle for Tumor Face too
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Publicly, Horzine Industries was hard at work fulfilling a MOD contract to develop the world's most advanced combat armor. Privately, they were cloning a subterranean army of violent and unfortunate looking servants. As Wilkes will testify, having found and liberated their Mark 7 suit, they were great at multitasking.
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>>180663197
The man himself is the Mark 7 with Classic Masterson's voice. Thats what he was in KF1.
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why is gunslinger so fun?
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So with the l4d2 mutation modes, how would firebug do the headshot only? I haven't played much of him so I dunno if fire affects the head or not.
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Any chance we'll joke joke cosmetic skins like cardboard tubes? I mean, we already have a cardboard knight? Why not give it a matching weapon?
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For fucks sake, TWI needs to get that shit with their server tools fixed. Whatever I fucking do, I can't get my server to show up on the server browser. Joining via IP is no problem and I have forwarded all my ports correctly (including port 27015).
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>>180665000
>Can't join servers with custom maps because 90% of the time they won't download
Thanks Tripbama
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>>180661972
I know it'd be OP in kf2, but so would a multishot laucher. It's like >>180662310 says, the damage would be shit, even if it were four shots like the EX 41. Look at how they handled the Stoner from the get go, although in their defense they did give a slight buff.
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>>180664886
9mm, flare revolvers, trench gun. Pick your poison.
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>>180665328
Wonder if there is a place that has all the costume maps in one neat little download to remedy this.
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>>180666020
And it would have have low damage per nade to be balanced because of Demo's skill kit. Nukes especially.
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>>180664886
you pick a different class
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>>180667035
Unfortunately so. No fun allowed sadly.
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Reload animations need to be tied to the actual reload. Animation canceling on Gunslinger is mandatory on HoE and tedious af. Shorten the reload time and tie it with the damn reload Tripwire.
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>>180667705
I don't play Firebug, friend was wondering and it made me curious too
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>>180664886
Fire damage affects the body overall, not head health. Basically you could use the flare guns (still shittier than the M1911's) or the shotgun, but firebugs entire shtick is based on body damage. Even the skills won't really help you here. Just play any other class. not demo either
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just make the china lake an RPG alternative so I'm not just going M79/RPG literally every single game as demo

shit gets boring
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>>180668072
It can still be a fun weapon to implement. The M32 specifically since it can shit out alot of grenades very quickly I'd set their individual damage to ~70% of an M79 nade and adjust accordingly from there. Obviously long ass total reload speed but the efficient use of it would be constantly reloading like a shotgun like KF1.
Make it an alternative to the RPG for playing Demo more for ultimate wave clear instead of decent wave clear+big zed killing. You would still fuck up FPs with Shock Trooper, Scrake killing power would be weaker because you'd need alot of successive direct hits, but you can clear an absurd amount of Zeds and set off alot of Nukes.
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Multiple shots with all the power of the m79 could be balanced, with some heft.
M32: 11wt, 1500Ð
China Lake, 8wt, 1100Ð
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>>180657423
You'll be burning in the lowest planes.
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>>180668594
Thats actually a good way of thinking it. Since the quicker damage output would make essentially a Tier 4 M79 the M16 would be worth taking for the up close defense finally.
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>>180669060
>11 units
>can only pair it with Grenade Pistol or C4
No, thats how you make a useless weapon. RPG + M79 would be flat out better.
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>>180670352
>>180670352
>>180670352

This way you prats
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>>180597947
Blood looks like jelly a few minutes after it left the body.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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