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>/palg/ Discord
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>Official pages
Website: https://www.paladins.com/
Forums: http://forums.paladins.com/
Server status: http://status.hirezstudios.com/

>FAQ, useful links etc.
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>Patch notes (OB52)
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>Steam Store
http://store.steampowered.com/app/444090/

>Paladins Wiki
http://paladins.gamepedia.com/Paladins_Wiki

>Tutorials made by Hi-Rez (playlist)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qlES6unUwY&list=PLfqXKYM_LlNyc6n9nhYujLyniK69nMFrB

>Champion guides made by Hi-Rez (playlist) - may contain some outdated info
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p9Ptob5pC4&list=PLfqXKYM_LlNwUxmoNDngInm4DnaanoKS9

>Decks
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http://masterpaladins.com

Previous >>179758150
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Essence
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I want to make Fernando's dreams come true!
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>>179994765
have a sexy Nando
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This is Ying.
She is my wife.

It is my duty as her everloving husband to inform you that some malicious individuals are claiming to be her husband or spreading lies about her life.
All of these are false however, so I urge you not to believe any of them.
Of course, these claims come from jealousy, because who wouldn't want to be married to a girl as beautiful and adorable as her?
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I played Retrebution Zhin as a joke, up until the point where people stops shooting at my counter.

But holy shit, I'm now at level 10 and there's no stopping the Zhin Train of Counter everything, That ability's like a fucking blackhole in terms of what it counters, I've seen it gobbled up basically every Ult, Grumpy bombs, Resonance illusions, turrets and more.

It's actually easier to list what can't be countered and those are Mal Damba's Ult, Inara's Warden Field and other on the ground effects like Molotov. Hell you can even counter fall damage itself and glitch under the map.
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>>179995024
elves are for bully
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Seris has the best midriff and anyone who says otherwise will be cursed with flanking Seris in their team.
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>>179995150
Ying is not for bully.
Please don't do it.
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Anyone 5k+ Account, ~2500 ranked elo, or 3k+ casual elo want to team for some ranked?

I main Ying, send me a message in-game.

http://paladins.guru/profile/pc/Killaspike/ranked
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>>179995282
BULLY ELVES
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reddit line
everyone above it must go back
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>>179995657
What about me?

Don't i have to go back?

Oh by the way maeve is overpowered and needs to be nerfed, heroes shouldn't be able to combo you like maeve can, she can literally instagib any hero in the game with the Q buff
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>>179995348
no i'd rather not rely on an npc to heal me
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>>179995806
>maeve is overpowered
You have to go back
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beach chest should be next patch right

i'm gonna be upset if that isn't the case :(
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^ kill yourself
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^ look at this idiot
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>>179995806
But reddit agree that Maeve is shit, you should have rather posted about essence and how Overwatch is so great.
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>>179996464
Pack up boys we found him
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>>179995890
If you'd look at my game history you would see that I'm usually top damage on my team with Ying.

I'm pretty much melting their team with Dimension Link spam, everytime a rewind illusion is overwritten it does 500 damage. So you sit on the point and Dimension Link, or do it when pushing against their team and it melts them.

The nice thing is that the team also gets healed as well because the rewind illusions get a tick or two of healing off each during DL spam.

You end up with almost as much healing as a Seris or Damba but with insane amounts of damage done and point control.

Your loss.
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>>179997065
or you could tie one arm behind your back and blindfold yourself and play seris or maldamba and put up the same stats with minimal effort. ying is a waste
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>>179997380
Please don't be mean to Ying.
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>>179997452
Ying was made for bully
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>>179996089
It better be.
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>>179997065
Wait. You can continuously create 500 damage explosions with like a 0.3 second cooldown just by spamming dimensional link with the card and the legendary?

I'm going to splurge my saved up essence and try this right now
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>>179997452
I want Ying to be mean to me.
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>>179997885
yeah dude destroy your shitty little healers for a shitty 500 damage wow so worth it
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>>179997686
No she wasn't, stop.

>>179998085
She's never mean, she's adorable, nice and cute.
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>>179998253
>he doesn't want the bullied elf to become the sexual bully
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>>179997885
You do more damage with Focus Lens and you don't need to kill your teammates for your pussy damage.
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>>179998253
the only good rection pic of ying are her getting bullied, obsessed anon.
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>>179998253

She's an evil witch, anon.

But that's okay, she has friends.
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>>179997885
No, it doesn't work like that. The shatter it causes doesn't kill them, so you can only do like 1000 damage out of it, unless they keep killing them as you jump back and forth.
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WHAT'S WITH PEOPLE AND BLAMING THE FLANKER?!?! ANDRO IS F!CKING DIFFICULT TO PLAY, EVEN AS A NEAR DIAMOND ANDRO I MISS A TON OF MY SHOTS.
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>>179998118
>>179998391
Wrong.

You don't do less healing with Resonance/Dimension Link spam. You do more because the illusions you replace get off 1 tick instantly and you are replacing them really quickly. So your team actually gets healed more and you are exploding the other team.

L2P
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>>179998313
Not really, I just want to protect her smile.

>>179998443
You're wrong.

>>179998576
She just put on a cute costume, she's not actually an evil witch.
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>>179998593
You're the carry.
Carry nigga.
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>>179998684
you got no proof
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>>179998583
This is wrong.

You're not shattering often with the build I run, you're main offensive ability is Dimension Link. You spam it on the point and the rewind illusions get replaced or destroyed by the enemy as you spam F, replacing an illusion makes it explode for 500 too. You are literally dropping 500 damage every .5 seconds if you spam F hard enough on point.
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>>179998827
They don't shatter again in the shooting range if you've already replaced them (since only destroyed ones shatter). Does it actually do it in real games?
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>>179998672
And lose the cool down for when you need it the most so you die like an idiot. Great plan
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Why are we even talking about ying. Show Grover some love
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>>179999221
grover is legit the best champ for onslaught because his vine hook with the range card at IV can hit literally anywhere on the map from the point
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>>179994573
ENORMOUS
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I just got diamond with Grover, he's such an under rated champ
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>>179998827
Just tested it, it only works if the enemy kills them again or you shatter them. Spamming F doesn't spam explosions.
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>>179999417

Oh, hey, that's finally getting out from under the Xbox/Windows store exclusive thing? Good for them.
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>>179999609
Spawn new illusion during the DL spam, it removes one of the existing illusions, then follow up with shatter depending on how many enemies are around you. That's 2x 500 + 1000 from shatter in less than a second and you can do this up to three times with max DL card.
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>>179999221
Because Ying is the cutest.
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>>179999221
One my favorites since I can play him with my eyes closed. I haven't toyed around with his loadouts in a while though, some of his vine ones are great but even the base ability is great once you have the range internalized.
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>>179999842
But in most cases I only use shatter to heal myself, the 25% health illusions almost die instantly when contesting the point against the enemy team, they die so quickly the other team pretty much kills themselves from any AOE on point or just trying to kill you while you spam DL.
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>>179999927
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Man it's freaking sucks to play against Lex as Skye
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>>179999842
>>179999969
Also, when you shatter those illusions they are instantly replaced with rewind illusions so your healing doesn't suffer.
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>>179999927
>him
Did you just assume xir floral gender, you shitlord?
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>>179999609
Just try it in a casual game, I guarantee if you just offensively spam DL on point with the build I run and Resonance, you will faceroll 90% of teams below 3k elo and 70%+ 3k and above elo.
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Just started playing, saw people saying that opening loot boxes is bad without boosters. How so? Also Cassie is best girl.
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>>180000505
Tried it in a bot match. I'll have to try again spawning new illusions, since I didn't try that, but spamming F alone did nothing more than what I expected.

>>180000550
Boosters give you 33% more items, so it's better to save all of them for when you have a booster.
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>>180000550
That floating fourth item can sometimes be nice, especially if you still have a majority of things to unlock. Usually it's best to save up boxes until you get enough log-in jew crystals for a booster, then blow them all together so you get the most out of your chests.
At later stages this becomes less viable without the "ensured unique item" keys they just put out, since you'll end up drowning in essence (unless you just get boxes full of commons, then it's more like wading.).
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>>180000550
I think the 4th item you get from chests, the one that requires boost, gives better loot more often.
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>>180000550
>Also Cassie is best girl.
But that's completely right.
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>>180000550
Because you lose out on a 1/4th of every roll and early on you need essence/cards more then anything else. You get chests very quickly and it wasteful to open them without. Its not that big of a deal to open without but just be aware you're fucking yourself over if you do so. Here was about 10 days of decent grind got me, every new release of champions cost about 42k essence. If I didn't have a booster it would probably be closer to 15-20k. It adds up.

Booster are 200 gems, 5 buck in real buckeroos or a month in log in rewards. Never buy crystals but if you have to get the 2500 bundle only, they jew you hard on the smaller amounts. Founders pack will give you more then enough essence to fuck around with for a month to get a booster though if you really enjoy the game that much..

But its HiRez so fuck giving them money.
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>>179999417
Thanks for the heads up, downloading it now.
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>>179999630
they've been on pc for months, its just that they have a smaller playerbase than battleborn.
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>>180000767
>>180000758
>>180000716
Right because you can get jew crystals outside of paying for it. I see.

Any generically accepted list of shit to avoid buying in terms of characters, cards etc? Cassie seems retard strong with just rollan all over the place with no cooldowns and easy 910 damage shots, what other characters are nice for expanding my realm? Also will the game still feel like this when I stop playing against awful players? I stopped playing overwatch because of how boring and one dimensional every game feels with all the chokes and this is genuinely enjoyable, but it might just be that it's easy to carry in this game with shitters due to all characters having a real weapon, move accel and so on. I'm not really looking forward to another
>oh my teammate picked X now we can't win
situation. Already noticing a distinct lack of useful Kinessas in every fucking game.

>>180001297
Yeah I'm not really planning on buying stuff unless I actually feel like I'm going to play this game for a while. Given Hirez determination to not support fun fps games I'm not really holding my breath. Any idea what to spend gold on or do I just buy cool characters? Is Evie any good? She seems fun and exceptionally annoying to play against.

Also why is Maeve considered garbage exactly? I can sort of see why since every Maeve I met was easy pickings but every player in low level casual probably sucks dick anyway.
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>>180001831

Weren't they Win10 only, though?
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>>179995274
what the fuck are those proportions, looking at that I begin to forget what perspective means

>>179994935
did you know that fernando used to have a hook before makoa and roadhog were even made?

http://imgur.com/l5og7TE
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>>180001838
Sometimes you'll get a maverick, actually good Kinessa but they'll be on the enemy team and they are a pain in the ass, especially when babysat.
There will never not be at least one shitter, so in those situations (i.e. the three damage and a flank composition that you may find yourself in) it's best to either take the deserter or just say fuck it and play whoever you want instead of worrying about team balance.
As for cards, I just unlock all of them so I've got the freedom to experiment until I find something fun. Anything you don't use after unlocking can just be broken down and used to buy other cards.
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>>180001916
No. Arc has been managing the non-win10 version for months. but as I said before, so few care about gigantic that no one even knows where to find the fucking game.
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>>180002039
>fernando used to have a hook before makoa and roadhog were even made
And yet few people will actually care.
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>>180002039
yep, i did know about his laser lasso
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Is winning during weekends supposed to be impossible?
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>>180001838
>Already noticing a distinct lack of useful Kinessas in every fucking game.
Occasionally there's a decent one, but they only really do well when the other team doesn't counter her well.
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>>180002171
Nope. It has been Windows 10/X-Box One only since release they're opening it to Windows 7 plus this weekend with a full launch later this month.
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>>180002353
>>180002132
Every time I met a Kinessa that could aim we'd still capture the point every time and then not finish because nobody could kill her just standing halfway in spawn on whatever the name for capture point -> payload is. Do I just roll into her asshole and fill it with crossbow bolts then or what?
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>>180001838

Maeve's biggest problem is that her best and only defense is her mobility-thus, CC-heavy teams are a nightmare for her, and it only takes a few lucky or well-placed shots to drop her if she stays in the open for too long.
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>>180002590
Fair enough, but isn't the 90% CC time reduction enough from the card? Or is that just too late for most modes?
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>>180001838
You're right on the money for Cassie rolling, Incitement 4 is the only card on her loadout you really need. You'll be matched with players based off level until you reach level 30 at which point it switches to elo, don't worry about that until you reach that point though. First 5 levels are vs bots if you haven't got to that point yet but yeah low levels are a mixture of smurfs and actual newbs. Weekend so you know it goes. You can carry most games at that level if you play properly.

The only character that legitimately sucks to get on your team is Kinessa as you already figured out due to needing to protect her in order to get any value out of the pick. Players can just take Sha Lin for a sniper character except escape/defend themselves properly. She is free so you'll see a lot of her unfortunately even in higher tier games where people don't care much.

Spend gold on characters you're interested in mostly, if you do get founders pack down the line you'll have it refunded back to you so no worries there. Evie is strong to play and will have a good chance of carrying games with her if you're decent at video games already (Ice Block Legendary is her best right now). Just make sure you read the skill list (bonus damage after Blink is the big thing) and you should do well. Maeve isn't even that bad, she was nerfed hard a while back but has since then been buffed. Most Maeves you see are shit but frankly I find good Maeves one of the the scariest things to deal with in the game. A lot of shitters play her though. Evie/Andy will give you the most bang for your buck on the Flank side of things and give you the best way to carry.

I need to make more of these pictures for other roles already
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found this shit while partying with a friend that just started playing. is it even humanly possible to go lower?
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>>180002561
Pretty much. Kinessa doesn't do so hot against people right up on her, but unless you gut her fast any mines she might have placed will slow you down just enough for her to warp away.
As for the ones that shoot from spawn, well, there's not much you can do there other than call them a faggot postgame and pray you've got shielding of some kind. Because that sort of shit on Ice Mines would be infuriating.
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>>180002792
it's possible to have negative elo so yes
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>>180002557
Anon, it takes 2 seconds to google things https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/Gigantic/news/detail/10031983-introducing-a-new-partner-and-new-future-for-gigantic

> 11 May 2016

it's been in the works since before that, and it was already playable for a while, it's not even the first time.
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Does having a high rank give any rewards at the end of the season like overwatch ?
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>>180002934
What season.
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Why is his ult so shit?
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Esports time now boys

>>180002934
Probably, but ranked seasons hasn't really started (why they marketed the game as already in a season I'll never understand)
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>>180002917
I never saw it as playable on arc but whatever I'm glad its out now.
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>>180003201
>all those brs and cyka blyats in chat
savages.

And do the notifications on whether or not you receive a skin show up in whispers or notifications?
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>>180003403
Whispers I think, I haven't gotten squat since the first weekend they did this though. I'm even trying to watch on a fresh install of another browser this time.
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>>180003170
>1.1k damage per auto attack
>completely deletes non tanks in 3 shots
>shit
I think we know what the problem is here.
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What's the best way to get essence? Can I exchange gold for it?
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>>180002787
>Combat repair for Barik when it doesn't really matter if you heal your turrets, since if anyone tries to destroy them then they burst them too fast for healing and you have a low cd on them anyway
>Spring Tide 4 for Makoa so you can waste your shell spin on trying to heal while you are probably cauterized
>Winddancer for Torvald, for what purpose, you wanna fuck up your teammates with a sudden speed boost that will mess with their aim?
>no Incinerate on Nando, more Hp so you can survive like 1/2 of Drogoz's rocket more
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>>180002773

It certainly helps, but yeah, earning those credits when you're up against a team with a lot of slows/stuns/what-have-you is going to be tricky.
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>>180002787
Ah so founders refunds gold? That's neat, makes it a lot easier to spend some of it.

How important are team comps in general? With regen/lifesteal being available I'm somehow imagining less so than in overwatch for instance.

Also, generic advice on buying cards in game? I just defaulted to haven or blast shields depending on how much aoe the enemy team had a lot, or shredder the few times there were any shields around. Eventually began using morale boost for that sweet wallhack uptime which feels good but may or may not be very useful.
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>>180003537
>completely deletes non tanks in 3 shots
Too bad I don't have problems with non tanks
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>>179998593
>andro
>hitscan weapon
>has a card that gives you 3 ammo every nether step so you don't really have to reload if you don't want to
>no counters in game except for Makoa hook every 10 seconds and then you still have a bigger chance of surviving than the rest of the flankers
Sounds like you need to git gud.
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>>180003642

Not directly, no. You receive essence by getting dupes from radiant chests, which you CAN buy for gold. For best effect, you might save up login crystals so you can get a booster, which will make every radiant chest give you 4 items.
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>>180003642
Pray to god that RNG blesses you. Welcome to Paladins, enjoy your cancer :)
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>4.5k viewers on esports just because of skins
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>>180004110
Well fuck me, I only get like 300 essence per duped chest

How the fuck am I going to afford the legendaries I want? Or the cards? The best loadouts in the game I'm missing like 3-4 cards per set

Don't tell me this is actually how they expect the game to be played. how would I afford any legendary in the game when I get a bunch of trash cards for heroes I don't even play?

Even if I bought a hundred chests and each chest had essence 20% of the time (which it doesn't). That still would only net me 6000 essence. I couldn't buy a single legendary from that.

What the fuck?
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>>180004318
>a good 95% are either BRs or cykas
Quality of the chat would go up if they just flat-out banned all the spamming BRs.
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>>180004318
it's working
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RAYNDAY IS SO TINY
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nerf patriota
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>>180004318
>implying i'm actually viewing this joke shit
lol
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>>180004376

Alternately, you could spend crystals enchanting radiant chests-for a small amount, it guarantees you won't get a dupe, so you might get cards you need that way.

Never pretended it was a good system, anon. There was a reason they gave people a great big pile of "apology essence" after they added it to the game.
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>>180004318
So is it just one skin hand out for all the viewers?
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ASH TIME
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>tfw considering boosting
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>>180004781
no lol, it's rng garbage for a chance to even get something, then it's another rng roll to decide what you get. please inflate our view count for this great chance :)
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>>180004376
The grind is real, I made a smurf to train up heroes I normally don't play in casuals since my elo is so high its ridiculous learning a new champ.

I noped the fuck out of there quick, not being able to even get a decent load out on more than a couple characters after 10-15 hours of gameplay? Fuck that. I feel bad for new people.
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>tfw moonrune speaking BK in your team

Grohk vs Grohk was fun, though
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>>180005050
Better than I expected. I figured only one person out of all the viewers would get the skin. It still sucks but I expected worse.
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>SKIN PLS over and over
Why dont they just make it an auto timeout?
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>>180003679
They're general loadouts from tons of experimentation and cross referenced with competitive players anon, they're just opinions for a general reference that inexperience players can at least not have a full retard build not the end all be all best build.

Actually now that you point it out though the Barik one is just the wrong build I screenshotted, I was having issues with saving. Combat Repair should never be past 1 if used at all and could be used for Foundation or Palisade instead (this was made during the CD fuckery that made shields stupid last patch for the record).
Spring Tide could be traded for Barrier Reef easily (Tide just more consistent for average players imo), its more preference then anything. Shitting on the Wind Dancer is retarded though since it will save people running away with low HP on those clutch shields, although I see your point (but if you're aim gets fucked up by a speed boost you shield wouldn't have made a difference). HP vs 20% CD on Fireball could be argued either way, again these aren't %100 for sure meta builds, just a general guideline. Look at random players builds and you see some hilariously useful shit. Definitely need to fix Barik though so thanks for that note. See anything else that needs to be fixed?
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>>180003907
Voice packs refund to I think if you really hate the default one too (not 100% sure though). At low level comp doesn't really matter that much but a good rule is 1 FL, 1 Support, 2 DMG and 1 Flank but its all interchangeable.

On the burn card side of things most of the time you'll want Cauterize to stop healing and Wrecker for shields (mostly vs Torvald really), game is balanced around these two cards. Bulldozer isn't that most of the time and Deft Hands is shit on everyone except Mal Damba. For blue Haven/Blast Shield is rarely a bad choice, Resiliance is great against hard CC comps. For yellow Master Rider is good for FL, Moral Boost for ult dominate people like Seris, Chronos for guys like Grohk (but its very expensive and doesn't shine until t2/3). Nimble can be useful but a waste most of the time. For green you'd want Rejuvenate (on FL only really) assuming you can rely on your healer, Kill2Heal is a good general since just tagging someone who gets killed gives the HP gain. Life Rip is good if you're constantly 1v1ing. Veteran is generally trash right now.
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>half of the champs in every pro match are frontlines
>shitters will still complain that frontlines are too weak
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>Say we are going to giveout skins for esport viewers
>Poor third worlders starts watching the stream thinking they will get them meanwhile drop rate is probably something like 0.1% chance
They literally found a way to viewbot legit
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>8k viewers
The power of gibus
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>8000 viewers

So this is the power of waifus.
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we ow now
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Well, I guess that Fernando is officially dead.
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>>180006347
He was for several updates now.
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>>180006347
Why would you ever use Fernando when Makoa, Ash, and Barik are right there?
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>>180006510
He was still being picked sometimes tho.
And losing every time.
In retrospect I should have noticed this sooner.
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Nice damage reduction weenie
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My god, Drogoz is so disgusting.
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>>180006808
Barely anyone plays a good flanknando, pretty much every other frontline does a better job at turtling + also dealing decent damage.
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>>180006957
you're only noticing this now?
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>>180006957
Literally no pressure on him, no flanks, 3 tanks, no hitscans except Ruckus. Same shit happens when a good Kinessa is free and no one says she is disgusting.
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>that bk ult
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>>180007432
>that seris ult
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>>180007561
>Ruckus is feeling it

My god that was terrible lmao
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>>180007238
Kinessa can't unload 1300 damage with knockback around corners every 5 seconds, anon
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d69 is
tumbling down
tumbling down
tumbling down
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>>180007095
I just forget this sometimes, since I play Andro a bit.
>>180007238
Eagle Eye Kinessa is disgusting though, one-shot mechanics are bullshit.
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What happened in the second game? I had to do shit and didn't even catch draft.
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Well, best matches of today are already over.
>>180007808
D69 got their shit pushed in, Gerrah wasted most of his Seris' ults, Bugzy got killed in every Dragon Punch, no one got knocked off the map despite this being Frog Isle, Laizy failed to commit suicide by poppy bombing off the map because invisible walls.
All was decided by brawl on point during 3-3.
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>almost at Smite level of viewers

Whoever thought this up was brilliant
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>>180004543
>manlets
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>>180007715
good, they were getting too arrogant.
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>>180008209
>will fall down to 200 once the giveaway ends
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RIGHT ABOUT NOW IT'S TIME TO ROCK
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>>179999417
>windows 10 exclusive
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>>180008209
Wait till they announce that Dreamhack Maeve that will probably be distributed in the same way. 15k views or bust.
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BUCK BOIS
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>>180008393
>implying they're not going to do this every other patch now.
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>>180008393
I don't think it will end, its a great gimmick. Competitive gets real exposure and casuals gain something from it.

>>180008161
WASD isn't to shabby
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>>180006009
Tanks recently got buffed so they are in a good place right now.
Nando and Torvald need some help though.
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>>180008761
>nando and torvald get buffed
>every team is now 3-4 frontlines
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>>180008831
>3-4 tanks every game

Yeah, that's what made me bored of OW, don't let it happen here lorez.
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>I just won the skin, type !skin
>wave of <message deleted> from brs and cykas
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>>180008831
You want get it in casual tho, nothing will convince shitters to play anything else than 'muh Kinessa' or 'muh Maeve'.
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>>180008831
This is why we need flanks to deal percentage based damage
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>>180009013
Same, I stopped playing OW completely after 2 seasons of ana+2-3 tanks every match, it was absolute cancer

It's also why it pisses me off whenever someone complains that frontlines aren't good enough and don't deal enough damage. They have more than twice the HP of other champs, they shouldn't deal high damage. If you want that shit you can fuck off back to OW and never come back
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>>180008484

Aren't they holding an event specifically to kick off not being Windows 10 exclusive anymore?
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>>180009013
Game will change dramatically once bans are pushed through, its just impossible justify not taking at least double FL right now with how good these players are.

Also wew these combos are delicious.
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>Triggerman on sale for 25 crystals
>Kingpin on sale for 1 crystal
>tfw will have funky crystals number forever
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>>180009013
>>180009271
lol
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Who else starts yelling in guttural ape tones whenever they start hearing a BR babble over the mic?
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>>180009534
>playing Buck after all those nerfs
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>>180009650
>Playing paladins
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Inara pls, she did nothing that game except rush solo.
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Do you think they should pick Drogoz instead of Evie there?
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>>180009816
Hard to say, probably would have gone better, I think WASD was going hard on the ult combo but it doesn't really work more then once.

Evie is just weird
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>>180009114
Reminds me of the glory days of !guancode
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>>180009013
>>180009271
>it's okay for Fernando or Torvald to be utter garbage because Overwatch
>even if maps in Paladins are not chokepoint after chokepoint like in OW
>even if you will get fucked on maps like Serpent Beach if you go full frontline, because they have no vertical mobility, except Ruckus
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>>180009816
They should tell Unbe to stop rushing point instead.
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>Inara keeps just sitting on point while everyone else plays the game

pls UNBELIVABLE, pls

>>180010105
Nando isn't garbage, just at this level of play he isn't as useful. Tovald is kind of durr though
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>>180010105
>taking such leaps
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>>180010105
I honestly want to hear how would you combat 5 frontlines if everyone of them was as strong as the top tier frontlines are currently
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>>180010423
play drogoz, bombking, androxus, pip, viktor/tyra/whoever
recieve free win
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>>180010423
>who's Drogoz
>who's Bomb King
>who's literally any champion with a longer range than average frontliner
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Holy shit D69 make them look like a bunch of scrubs.
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>>180010423
cauterize and wrecker, fire spit, firebomb, seedlings/dead zone.

ggez.
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>>180010701
>>180010725
This, if you can't win against frontline stacks you're obviously a shitter
See these pro teams on stream struggling against triple tanks? Fucking shitters, all of them. I bet we could totally wreck them if it were us.
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>Bugzy went 16 and 1
The state of WASD right now
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>>179995024
ying is a slut
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>>180010725
>Implying they can do 40k damage before the frontlines fuck their shit up
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>>180010874
>struggling against triple tanks
>D69 vs Gankstars on front isle goes to 3-3
>Jaguar Falls is also pretty even
>Bugzy is shooting freely the whole game because with three tanks on Gank Stars no one can stop his fire spits
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>>179995024
What's the history between Zhin and Ying, anyway?
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>Rayday has Ruckus in the Not Recommended for Ruckus

nigga wat
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Redpill me on buzgy
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>>180010951
Delete this.
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>>180011225
He grinds the game more then anyone else and generally hates his life.

Pretty cool guy.
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the manlet is mad lol
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>>180010967
>bk throws a grumpy
>drogoz shoots from afar
>optional viktor/shaolin
>all with wrecker
it literally is that easy
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>>180008370
>They actually responded to this on stream
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>>180011225
>this is buzgy
>retarded brother of bugzy, player on D69
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when will they learn
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>>180011127
>bugzy is spamming fire spits everywhere
>game is still still very even
you are literally proving my point
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>>180011472
Fuck, they are here.
H-hello, HiRezMartini! Nice day, isn't it?
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>>180011225
he doesn't like the game and only plays it because it pays the bills, he's miserable and boring to watch.
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>>180011681
Of course they are, hell they drop chest codes occasionally for shits and giggles.
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This is the first time I actually watching live match like this. What is this Ruckus/Inara vs Makoa/Barik matchup almost every game?
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>>180011780
All paladins players subconsciously wish they were playing Overwatch instead, including pros. So they're copying the tank stacking OW meta.
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>>180011780
It's called 'meta', Anon. We have a list of champions that are considered good and then everyone plays them.
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Grover
>Blossom passively heals nearby allies for 100 hp per second
>Blossom heals nearby allies for 1200 hp
>Crippling Throw cooldown is increased by 1 second
>Deep Roots also increase Crippling Throw's damage by 100%
>Rampant Blooming heals nearby allies by 300 hp for 3 seconds

Grohk
>Increased base totem range by 10%
>Totem is now throwable
>Starting from the moment it's deployed totem is immune to all damage for 3 seconds

Rate
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What the fuck is Spunkki doing.
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>>180011960
tumblr pls go
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>>180011996
>>Rampant Blooming heals nearby allies by 300 hp for 3 seconds
I prefer the idea of giving them a temporary version of Grover's passive instead.

>>Starting from the moment it's deployed totem is immune to all damage for 3 seconds
This is too much. I think it should be throwable, but it should be possible to shut it down once it's doing its thing.
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>>180011780
They're solid combos you cannot go wrong with regardless of who you're playing against. Gonna be this way until bans come out.
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>Unbelievable is going straight to the point and dies there AGAIN
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>>180011780
It's the current meta, as well as lack of any sort of bans during draft phase.
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>>180011960

>OW
>Not Master X Master

Sounds like you got it UP SIDE DOWN, anon.
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>>180012252
Totem has like 1k hp it dies to aoe damage way too easily. It's impossible to heal anyone during a team fight for that reason.
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>>180012294
I'm legitimately getting frustrated here watching him, you can't even do that shit in casual without fucking over your team.
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>>180012270
>>180012295
I don't get why they don't make a modified version of the game that has bans for actual tournaments. They could even make it available for custom games, and then it can be the live version of the game. Everyone in a tourney is going to have everyone available anyways, so it wouldn't hurt to give each team a ban.
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>>180011996
perhaps give the totem an inbuilt blast shields? so you need to actualy focus it down
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>>180012470
Making it just not possible to stop it for 3 seconds is way overkill for that problem. He should just have a card or something that gives it a shield.
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>>180012521

the perspective in this picture is all kinds of messed up

it's like he drew each body part from different references at different angles.
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>>180012521
>he did it again
It's like I'm watching a bot, what the hell. Just sitting on the point, letting Sha Lin hit you while BK destroys the rest of your team.
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>>180012810
How's that an overkill how much do you think you can heal for during that 3 seconds. Not to mention the 15 second cooldown you have for a fucking totem.
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>>180012635
They're reworking competitive as a whole and its likely how they'll introduce it. I'm guessing Dreamhack will be the final non-ban competitive event the game has, can't blame them for not wanting to dramatically changing the game until its over. Doing it now would just be cruel to the players, changes to much. Be entertaining but not really fair.

Good lord Flash Point stepping up though
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Heh.
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>>180013176

Congratulations!
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God, I hate Makoa's new shooting animation so much. Just fucking obscure half of my view, why don't you.
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what about letting the totem heal itself? that would definetly let it survive poke, but not survive real focus
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Damn Lex
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>Watch stream for ten minutes
What a shitshow.
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>come back after making a drink and almost falling down the stairs
>Cybe8 just does horribly lewd things to WASD

Man whatever the fuck they did to train this week, keep fuckin goin boys its working.
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>>180013310
Thanks, hope you will get whatever loot you want too!
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>>180013554
That Lex was all over the place that first round
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>>180013176

Can you only get the skins if you link your account? Cause I ain't doing that shit.
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>>180013665
>Can you only get the skins if you link your account?
Yes.
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>>180012984
Without any cards, it's 1260 per person in those three seconds, 1890 with Totemic Ward, plus CC immunity. Add Healing Rain and it's even more. Making it throwable with this is definitely too much.

>>180013462
This is a better idea.
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I feel like WASD is kinda tilted, they are making so many weird mistakes now.
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Times ticking!
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>>180013462
It's not about keeping the totem alive! Grohk can't heal people that is the problem he's dependent on that totem to heal people Mal'damba don't have to deal with that shit, gourd has no counters except for shooting people getting healed with Caut.
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>>180013427
True nerf Makoa needed.
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>>180013176
You motherfucker.
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>>180013868
Definitely, they easily have the most pressure on them in EU since they could have went to LAN.

Holy shit that finish to that game though, just beautiful.
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>>180014003
how about just cutting the cooldown, or letting him move the totem around?
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>>180014003
Damba does much less healing with gourd. Lasts for less time, does half as much per second.
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>>179997736
Would Kinessa have muscles? All she does is stand in one place and use her teleport to move.
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>>180014489

Of course she would, anon. She gets plenty of exercise snapping necks and cashing checks.
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>>180014489
Maybe she spends her time waiting for targets to show up doing situps.
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>>180012869
Maybe the team shouldn't get their asses kicked by a BK.
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>>180014328
Lowering the cooldown would be nice for sure. I understand the point about immunities in general I do hate them as well it's a lazy way to get away from all sorts of shit. Maybe if his totem health card would get buffed on top he could be decent enough play.
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>>180014638
that's pretty hot
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>>180014389
My point was that you can't remove gourd off the ground your only option is Caut. With totem you can either shoot the totem to stop the healing or if you have Caut you could keep shooting and make that heal pointless.
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>>180014841
not him, but how do you propose that doesn't happen?
Good BKs lock down the people they focus on.
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>>180013176
!skins
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Where can i get good card loadouts ?
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>>180015812
Find a pro you like and import his loadout.
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>SKIN PLS
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>>180015681
!raffle
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>>180016110
!getskin 1
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I think people who spam chat should have less odds of being picked.
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>>180016190
Even a monkey would be smarter than these BRs, jesus christ
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>>180015972
How do you get considered 'pro' by paladins.guru?
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>>180016618
Whatever Elo you have, add 1000 to it.
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>>180015812
check the leaderboard and important the highest win count from the top 10.
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>>179995080
hmm
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>base totem healing range increased to what it would currently be with outreach IV (or whatever the range card is)
>totem no longer expires after a set amount of time
>3 seconds after placing a totem, you can recast Q to move it to a new location with its current HP
>if the totem dies it goes on cooldown for 20 seconds
>hitting your own totem with LMB or RMB heals it slightly, shock balls can now bounce off your own totem

rate
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>>180016862
Son it doesn't matter what you do to the totem, you still won't be able to make people stand in it unless you make it global.
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>>180005559
>See anything else that needs to be fixed?
I think it could be good to include legendaries of your choice in there.
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>>180016838
>leaderboard are full of hackers with shitty loadouts
>>180016618
Fuck paladins guru, watch tournament for 5 seconds, write down names and then import their shit.
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>>180016967
The idea is that if people wander away from the totem you aren't fucked for 15 seconds anymore. You can just follow them around and keep putting the totem at their feet.

To be honest it doesn't matter because as long as you're healing yourself you can just 1v5 and whatever your mouthbreather teammates do is just icing on the cake.
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How long do these shit e-sports events last?
Are they over for the day?
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>>180016862
Not bad. I wouldn't go so far with the range though.
>shock balls can now bounce off your own totem
This is a good idea.

>>180017367
Aren't they doing a new game in a minute?
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>>180017367
>Are they over for the day?
Ye, unless you want to watch consoles, they are being broadcasted right now
>How long do these shit e-sports events last?
2-3 hours usually.
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>>180017464
>>180017542
Looks like they're being hosted by another channel for the consoles.
Can I still get skins from running this in the background?
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>>180017880
Probably not, you can still get Radiant Chests though.
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>>180016967
>all those low health frontlines who never look behind them to see that your totem is two steps away from healing them

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>180017880
Oh, they are. I really don't get Twitch at all.
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Okay, but Grohk being able to carry his totem on his back.
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>>180018227
How do you know?
>>
Actually, here's a question I should have asked three hours ago.
Do you have to follow the channel to be eligible?
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Does anyone still use the Tryhard Overwolf thing for crystals? Can you still use that?
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>>180019214
Uhhh, they haven't mentioned it in the instructions, so I guess you don't have to? Just link you account.
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>>180019341
Did that a while ago.
Has anyone ever looked into the lootbot's distribution rate? Like, how often it spins the roulette to see who gets what?
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>>180019528
>Has anyone ever looked into the lootbot's distribution rate?
Is this info even available anywhere?
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>>180019269
i would use it more often, if it would show me any fucking ads
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>>180019639
You'd think so, right? Couldn't even find mention of it on the forums, though that just may be me looking in the wrong places.
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>>180019269
Sometimes, I usually complete the premium offers. It's not as good as it used to be though.
If you are using vpn you can reset premiums by reconnecting, only works few times though.
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>>180019012
did they fuck
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>>180019269
I try every like 3 days and the outcome is still the same. Around 5-7 ads and then ded. Even when using VPN.
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>>180019975
No, Grohk is 100% heterosexual
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>>180019975
If you believe in it, then sure.
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>>180019992
>>180019960
what vpns are the best? I just kinda use the free trials for a bunch of them
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>>180020239
I use CyberGhost. It's okay.
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>>180019960
Wait there are premium offers? I cant see it
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>Be Puck
>See that all the enemy tanks got outed
>Leap towards their spawn
>Wait for them to spawn and shoot them to disable their horses
>Leap back to the point laughing all the way while my team safely caps
DAE loves doing this? I can almost hear them grinding their teeth
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>>180012409
Can't wait for the obt for MxM. Hopefully the game can stay alive. The PvE and arena seems fun.
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>>180020502
I think only 'Murica gets them.
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>>180020767
The only joy of playing Kinessa is leaving mines in weird places near enemy spawn, especially if they don't destroy it, so multiple people will get dismounted by them.
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dead thread
dead game
>>
no u
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don't worry, soon they'll start posting codes here again to inflate the amount of active thread users
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*hint hint*
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>>180025579
>implying they care about us
>>
>nothing but complaints on other sites about how they didn't get the skins, its a tragedy that you can't buy it directly and twitch chat is nothing but cancer

People are amusingly stupid at times.
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>>180025579
>>180025663
>they
t. Pixie and Alyssa
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>>180026313
>other sites
hmm...
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>>180019071
It said on the page somewhere that it was hosted.
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>>180026313
>twitch chat is nothing but cancer
In other news water is wet.
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>>180026126
Were we too mean?
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>>180029994
we're the local assholes
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>>180029994
Something something exploding vans.
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>>180026420
Me too want to win crystals from them. ;_;
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Anyone else playing the Gigantic event weekend? Figure this is the only place I can talk about it, /v/ doesn't care
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>>180033120
Can you play it without use that ad-filled browser they use.
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>>180033120
Asling is my favorite
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>>180033120
I am going back to Planetary Annihilation since they will remove commander reclaim in an upcoming patch, if anyone cares.
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>>180033215
you mean Arc? Only if youre on Xbone or W10, I think
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>>180033120
Mozu is the best and the cutest!
Mostly play her and Vadasi.
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>>179999417
Wat?
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>>180033120
Is the game actually good now
I remember trying it months ago before they first went w10-only and it was a buggy mess
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Thicc girl when?
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>>180034583
well, it can't possibly be buggier than Paladins ;)
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>>180034651
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>>180035112
Not enough.
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>>180034583
Dunno what it was like before, but I played for about 6 hours so far, haven't had any issues connection-wise, though once had a patch of the map turn invisible in a match.
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>>180024690
>dead game
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>be zhin
>dueling maeve
>low health
>billow
>at end try to ult
>maeve kills me but ult goes off anyway
>maeve dies and i respawn with full ult
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>>180038117
brazilians and russians are not people, they dont count
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>>180038176
>Can escape death from outside the borders
>Can die with Ult intake
Who can stop Zhin?
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Which is the best leggo for Lex
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Man, flanks without vertical mobility are so fucking worthless. Why does Hi Rez keep making them?
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>>180043565
Forcing you to choose Andro because he can carry everything.
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>>180038117
It's already well agreed that the deadest game on steam is battleborn
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>>180043565
They think if they keep trying hard enough, they will strike gold eventually.
We're almost to the point where damage without vertical mobility are fucking worthless.
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>>180043565
Because hirez a shit
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>>180043647
I would check battleborn out more if I could get more than 5 fps on it.
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>>180044454
I would check it out if it wasn't 30 gigabytes in size
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>>180043565
Lex though.
>>180043302
Death Hastens.
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>>180035112
h-how to unlock this skin?
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>>180044602
I had plenty of hard drive space and interweb speeds, but it run slow. Paladins is almost always 60+
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>>180045469
reach 300k+ healing in a single match
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>>180046186
After buying the founders pack+$80 worth of crystals, also dont forget to enchant your key :^)
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I've started watching Birds youtube teaching shit series and I get why they're the champs with him as capt. I'm generally curious how this game will go in terms of competitive numbers and how far people can push it.
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>>180043565
Wall running is supposed to be next.
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>>179994573
I may be late to the thread, but i am not late to remind everyone, that Drogoz is the best husbando!
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>>180047574
He's a lizard with identity issues
Don't enable a mental illness
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>>180048852
He is a beautiful dragon.
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>>180048940
I doubt he even has two dicks
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>>180049249
That's right, since lizards have two and dragons have one.
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>>180047574
>>180048940
You're just a lame copy of our neighborhood Fernandoposter and Yingposter.
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>>180049535
I can show you things that prove otherwise
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Are lo-rez servers not shitting themselves yet? Played earlier today and it was horrible.
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>>180048852
Shhh, let the beautiful derg be what he wants to be.
>>180049249
>>180049535
>>180050245
Last time i checked he has one. And that's what i felt for sure. The only true problem i have, is that people always get his chest wrong... I know because i was autistic enough to check the texture and recreate the missing parts of his model under armor, and recreate that texture based off the UV maps, and uncolored parts on the main texture itself.
>>180049584
But Ying is a slut. She prostitutes her clones!
And Fernando can't last long enough without Aegis! Shame! SHAME!
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what's the best buck legendary?
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>>180051060
Bounce House for sure
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>>180050337
OH GOD IT'S STILL BAD
WHY DIDN'T ANYONE REPLY TO SAVE ME THE HORROR
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>>180050749
You take that back.
You take that back right now, before I get very upset.
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Why can't they get BK's announcer voice right?
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>>180051298
no one actually plays this game so we had no idea
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>>180051425
We caught her anon, caught the real her doing illegal things as well... But don't worry, you are lucky its us and not Lex! so just pay us with gold and we'll let her go... or else.
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Every time I kill someone with a mastery skin I can't help but spray the ground for their kill cam.
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>>180053729
Oh so you're one of those people that can make poses on Blender. Big whoop.
Your fanfics don't scare me, I know in my heart Ying wouldn't ever commit such acts.
How about you focus your efforts on making Drogoz happy instead of trying to make my wife and me unhappy?
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>>180054351
Am just joking about having your wife here anyways. Dimensional Link is a terrifying thing.
He's already happy with me, it's you who should be careful with your Wife, you'll never, ever know what she is doing with her clones while you are not looking. If i were you, i'd put a camera somewhere, just in case. Preferably in her mirror... actually, now it makes me think. Is her mirror a camera? I mean you can see through it, and it looks... like it's recorded. Maybe you should check it, just in case.
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How rare does /palg/ like their steaks?
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>>180055174
I don't need to, a strong relationship has trust as a fundamental pillar.
Our love is 100% pure and unstained, so I don't have such worries, because I trust her completely, as she trusts me.
Are you sure it's not you trying to project your insecurities a little on me?
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>>180054351
>>180056183

How's that new Replicant model you recieved in the mail?
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>>180055963
Rarer

like a competent Mal Damba
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>>180056183
So as mine and Drogoz's. But keep in mind that he is not as "magical" as Ying, thus one would still have to worry less. And frankly, worrying about your partner is a completely normal thing to do. It only shows that you care more and more. Just magic is scary, and having clones is even scarier. If i were you, i'd still check just to make sure. You do know how people are like after all, even after years of trust, they can just do a 180 degree turn and poof... pain and hurt.
Getting to know the little details in advance always eases that up. But oh well. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ to each their own. Just hope you won't regret choosing Ying in the future, who knows what lies ahead.
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christ what the fuck happened to these threads? was the stream so bad that everyone just fucked off and left autism on its own?
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>>180057505

The stream was actually pretty funny. Saw some upsets, and some of the worst Inara plays in pro gaming.
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>>180057505
I played a bunch, not much to rant about since its just weekend games. Not a terrible patch but not much to be stimulated by outside onslaught metagaming and the mediocrity of release Zhin.

Although would be nice to stop getting so many reskins when I'm trying to farm essence. Its weird to hate getting unique things due to the chest system.
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>>180056491
This is a common misconception, people seem to think she's really a robot, but it's actually just a costume!
She has fun doing the monotone voice too, she's just a sweetheart like that.

>>180056750
I know she doesn't use her powers for mischief, so again, my trust in her is absolute. I don't want to hurt her by making her think my trust is fake.
The good thing is, I don't have to, because I know she will never betray me.

>>180057505
I'll stop if game discussion actually starts again and the thread stops getting to page 10.
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What are some of your favorite stupid builds, /palg/?
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>>180057505
i am just drogoz posting because i am bored, and as usual on new patches, you always get matched up with retardinos or dumb parties in your team.
>>180058181
Same.
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>>180058709
The Androxus one that lets you dash infinitely.

Or how about that stupid mine build on Kinessa that lets her have 9-12 mines?
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>last reply 33 minutes ago
This is what happens when waifuposting goes away, see?
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>>180061472
this
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man, feels good to finally own this skin
again, laptop is not letting me take screenshot for some fucking reason
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>>180062752

It does seem to work on him, for some reason.
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>>180063050
easily his best skin
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I want to nut hard in Skye!
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>>180062007
Hey who said you could post my wife, she's mine.
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>>180067913
she is mine!
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>>180068065
she belongs to sha lin
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>>180068274

>The princess and the pauper
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>>180068065
Ridiculous, what causes you to lie in front of so many honest anons? My wife is very unhappy at your accusations.
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>>180068274
i agree
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>>180068274
DELETE THIS GOY
Everyone knows that a certain Spaniard has laid claim to that land.
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>>180047415
Isn't that already scraped?
They're just experimenting IIRC
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>>180062752
The mastery skin really looks good on damba
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>>180044640
lex isn't a flank
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What did they mean by this?
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Frontline
>2 with 3 viable legendaries
>3 with 2 viable legendaries
>2 with 1 viable legendary
Damage
>1 with 3 viable legendaries
>5 with 2 viable legendaries
>2 with 1 viable legendary
Support
>0 with 3 viable legendaries
>4 with 2 viable legendaries
>2 with 1 viable legendary
Flank
>0 with 3 viable legendaries
>2 with 2 viable legendaries
>5 with 1 viable legendary
Total
>3 with 3 viable legendaries
>14 with 2 viable legendaries
>11 with 1 viable legendary

how did hirez fuck up with legendaries so bad, and this is even stretching it counting some mostly situational legendaries like ruckus' flux generator
also what is it with hirez making shit flanks now with bad mobility and meme no counterplay ults
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>>180070527
Feel like briefly mentioning/explaining which is which for a new player?
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How come Paladins doesn't have any good character designs?
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>>180070527
We've yet to have a champion with 0 viable legendaries. Don't lose hope!
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>>180071980
Because they are churning out Champions twice a month and also because they are partnering with Tencent to break into the chinese market. Those gamers eat up at least a dozen carbon copy and its a race to see who can squeeze the most into their games
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>>180071980
agree, they're all simplistic and lazy as fuck.
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PROOF caught on tape! Scientists can't explain this!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzwFynRj3Gc

People in this game are fucking retarded. If this guy whose aim is good and did 300k damage in a match almost lost and barely even managed to carry this shit, what chance do I have, who never did anything over 100k?

Man, at this point I struggle to find a reason to continue playing.
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>>180071980
Seems like good design to me >>180035112
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>>180071980
They add a new champion each week, thats why. Most of the designs are fairly rushed. And now even less unique because they removed their intros in champion selection screen. Fucking sucks.
Mozu's design perhaps is not that unique, but its hella more unique than some champions in paladins, i'll tell ya that.
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>>180072442
>>180072145
>>180072154

The only character in Paladins who isn't a walking trope is Mal'Damba

Everything else is just "generic orc shaman" or "literally just a copy of an Ent from LOTR"
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>>180072542
Damaba's obviously 'Spooky Voodoo Man', he's not exactly unique. The one with the most mascot potential is Bomb King and it's weird they haven't milk the shit outta him.
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>>180071650
I'll just list the bad ones because it's easier to notice how bad something is
Frontline
>Ash: fortress breaker, her shield is pretty bad
>Barik: tinkerin or fortify, your turrets are a much better source of damage/ area denial than your shotgun + his shield shouldn't be used as a long lasting defense since it's immobile
>Makoa: leviathan, bonus health is not worth losing damage from either pluck or half shell
>Ruckus: recycler, his reload is already pretty short and not limiting so go for mobility or damage reduction
>Inara: tremors or treacherous ground, they're shit on a zero mobility options champion compared to free 50% damage reduction whenever you want
Dam
>Bomb King: demolition, can deal with shields easily enough without + gimping damage or mobility
>Cassie: impulse, measily bonus damage compared to the others
>Drogoz: combustible, fusillade gets more consistent bonus damage and wyrm jets offers significantly better mobility
>Kinessa: eagle eye, headshots are inconsistent as fuck in this game
>Sha Lin: desert shadow or shifting sand, shits on flanks/ out damage without more stealth + other is only useful during your ult
>Tyra: first blood, countered by cauterize and only helps win some 1v1s early on at low level
>Willo: scorn or scorched earth, no one will stand in your aoes and without bonus primary damage she can't kill anything
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>>180070527
But good goy, how will people buy legendary if the one they start with is already good?

That aside, I think it's fine that newer flanks have less mobility. You're already pushing the limits of gotta go fast with Evie and Maeve, any further and nobody will ever be touching the ground. Zhin has a crap ton of sustain for a flank, far more than poor Buck in return for having much lower mobility and his Ult is nearly unusable in a 1v2 scenario.
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>>180071650
>>180073014
Sup
>Grohk: wraith, ethereal form is best used to prevent damage not survive at almost no health
>Grover: rampant blooming or ferocity, rooting targets is too much to give up on him
>Mal'Damba: wekono's wrath, up to 2 seconds of 20% damage reduction is not worth it over slows or better heals
>Ying: focusing lens, if you're just out for damage either take shatter or not ying
>Pip: catalyst, not as good as acrobatics for a flank pip
>Seris: agony or soul collector, you likely won't get to hit someone with 4 charges + the normal healing is enough
Flank
>Androxus: godslayer or heads will roll, reversal is a good defensive tool not an offensive one + inconsistent headshot hitboxes
>Buck: ensnare or bulk up, neither come close to bounce house but for what it's worth bulk up is not a terrible choice if you really have to
>Evie: over the moon, blink and reprieve are just far better options since you're not vulnerable while using them
>Lex: heroism or discovery, slight bonus attack speed can't compare to a straight up damage increase + with team voice chat, team text chat, and [vgs] you can easily point out enemies to your team as is
>Maeve: cat burglar or rogue's gambit, with how gimped maeve became getting more pounces on eliminations isn't particularly useful and maeve's enough of a sitting duck in the air without a third jump
>Skye: debilitate or surprise attack, resetting her stealth/ smoke bomb are the only things that actually help her, she can get kills on supports easily enough as is without either bonus damage and without resetting cool downs has no escape options and dies right afterwards since she can't win any straight fights
>Zhin: retaliation, people quickly learn to stop shooting counter
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>>180073054
if they're just meant to get damage out and not be very mobile while having better general sustain then they should have just been made into damage characters
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>>180073014
>>Drogoz: combustible, fusillade gets more consistent bonus damage and wyrm jets offers significantly better mobility

But combustible is a pretty meta pick even at high levels.
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>>180072542
A voodoo type shaman that plays with spirit and shit already sounds pretty generic desu
I think the problem is that they really didn't think so much about the art direction of the game
The initial theme of this game (futuristic fantasy) is interesting imo
There's a shaman orc with a lighning staff, a monk with high tech armor, a dragon with jetpack
Now it's just a blend of new character with no real world/theme direction
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>>180073180
Damage characters are not meant chase down targets and sustain behind enemy lines, they are artillery which is why all of them have 0 damage falloff. The only one with good chasing potential is Cassie and she's pretty flankish already.
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wake me up
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>>180072284
>300k damage
I know it's nitpicking but he didn't actually break 300k, he just got very close
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>>180073014
>>180073057
You're right on some but way off on others.

>Ash: Agree but the shield is shit not the legendary.
>Barik: Tinkerin is a good option when the enemy team has high alpha and bought dozer to 1-shot your turrets because there is no way to jack their health high enough
>Leviathan: Agree
>Ruckus: It's noob-friendly, that's about it
>Inara: Back before they buffed Mother's grace, I was running Treacherous Ground as support tank. It's pretty powerful in deathball comps to stop flanks from getting to your support

Dam:
>BK: Agree, no idea why he needs it when wrecker exists.
>Cassie: Not sure why it exists either considering the other 2 give far higher damage.
>Kinessa: If you're not a scrub, you'll land them consistently like Stolzy or other comp players
>Drogoz: Meta runs Combustion for its ability to clear the point
>Shalin: You can spend almost half your time invisible to reposition with the right build, certainly better than 15% drawspeed when your DPS comes from Planted
>Tyra: First blood's good for dominating early game and againest flanks. Mercy Kill's over-rated againest flanks because the difference in TTK on Skye's only a single bullet.
>Willo: Scorn's good for area denial and it's a perfect team wiper if paired with another champion that shits out CC. Scorched Earth is useless

Sup:
>Grohk: You can pull off 3 consecutive Ghostwalks with it with the right build since the CD is separate from the normal ghostwalk CD.
>Grover: Agree, but it's because the base kit is so shit, the legendarys can't save it.
>Mal: Agree, fuck Hi-Rez for pulling it from the default to the legendary
>Ying: Pros run this because people know how to negate or not shoot clones
Pip: Agree but a little buff should be able to fix it.
>Seris: Agony's great against flanks trying to kill you and if you stick close to your frontline, you don't lose that much on healing. I use it on small enclosed map like Ice Mines where I can get tons of stack
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>>180072542
bomb king is pretty unique
I also don't really know what some characters like ying or makoa are ripping off
then again in a high fantasy setting it's very common for characters to just be walking tropes just like in lord of the rings
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>>180074513

Flank:
>Andy: Godslayer's a guaranteed 800+Free shot advantage while good players land headshots all the time
>Buck: Agree but Bounce House got hit hard with the 2 sec nerf so Bulk up is considerable/
>Evie: All 3 are viable depending on the player
>Lex: The attack speed boost and damage boost is about the same DPS anyway and the attack speed's far better for bursting when you're not relying on In Pursuit.
>Maeve: Agree
>Skye: Preparation for pubstomping's still useful
>Zhin: Haha, Retaliation's fucking insane. Just because people stop shooting at you doesn't mean it doesn't counter fucking everything like a blackhole. It's basically a walking Anti-Ability/Ult Silencer for the duration you use it and it carried my ass all the way to lvl 9.
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>>180074421
My point was, if he can only just barley carry this shit, what chance do I even have? As you can probably guess, I'm pretty salty right now.
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>>180074973
get better than him
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>>180074513
>>180074841
well he >>180071650 specified for a new player so trying to say you can easily land sick headshots like pros or use evie's soar just as well as her iceblock is pretty misleading
also I will fight to the death against combustible as a strong pick for drogoz since it incentivizes the most braindead, cancerous way to play him over the other legendaries which offer numerically better bonuses as well as more engaging/ skill intensive gameplay
I mean fusillade gets 297 bonus damage per direct hit, the only reason to prefer combustible's 300 bonus dot I can think of is if you're just too insecure in your ability to land direct hits to make it worth while, and considering wyrm jets still sees use at the highest of play I firmly believe it's only a matter of time before drogoz players get better and stop relying on oversized aoe
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>>180075308
You're a retard if you can't see the value of knockback on Combustible. It fucking clears an entire point from the whole team's capture like a Mini-Snek ult and you can easily knock people to their deaths with it if you're good enough to manipulate it.
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>>180075572
the knockback means you can't combo it with salvo plus makes it harder to follow up on for kills
if you just want to knock enemies back take bombking or ash, they're much better designed for it
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>>180071980

I got into the CORE Confidential closed beta bullshit for that game, but I never actually played it because it was too much work getting the game working and organizing queues.

Are they finally going to release it on Steam non-windows 10 exclusive? If so, that game will be way bigger than Paladins.

One of the most beautiful games I've ever seen.
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>>180075917
Not on steam, it's on arc. They're having an open weekend there right now.
>that game will be way bigger than Paladins.
It won't be. It's already DOA thanks to all the time it spent as a win10 exclusive. Tried playing my first match yesterday and the matchmaker couldn't find one after 30 minutes.
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>>180076343

I said it will be bigger ***if they ever release it properly on Steam.
People gave up on it because of how long it's spent in bullshit development limbo with all the company problems, exclusivity, and lack of communication. Not because of anything to do with the gameplay - which is far more polished and fluid than any of the similar games out there.
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>go to vote for community skin
>voting closed
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>every match as Ash
>14 solo kills

I'm giving her all she's got, captain.
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>>180079537

whoops
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>>180079537
How are people retarded enough to let you get that close?
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>>180079654

She can charge halfway across the map, what choice do they have?
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>>179995080
he is a really good tank I agree
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>>180079629

>this was an 18 elo loss
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>>180079714
Well, in my case they had two guys waiting off the side to cut me down before I could finish the job.
Pretty much every time...
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What will you do when this game will die?
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>>180079935
doom mods
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>>180079935
I don't. Play Lawbreakers maybe?
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>>180079935

Gee I dunno, play any one of the other 5-6 games that are almost identical?
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>>180040474
competent devs
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>>180080383

HiRez definitely doesn't have any of those handy.
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>>180080383
we're doomed
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>>180079935
Drop mutiplayer video games entirely for something like mahjong, this is definitely my last "serious" video game short of some magical MMO that is not garbage but that'll never happen. I'm getting 2 old for this shit.
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>>180079935

firebomb hirez headquarters so no one ever has to suffer through them progressively ruining another game
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>>180079935
wait for paladins tactics
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>>180079935
Watch Drybear's next game die
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>>180079935
Play the kickstarted tribute game Knights: Heroes of the Kingdom.
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This zhin guy looks like the definition of spray and pray just wildly swinging sword all over hoping to hit someone
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>last post 55 minutes ago
Where are the waifuposters?
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A new Seris skin has been leaked
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>>180084108
about to sleep. good night
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>>180083941
The first 2 swings might as well be melee hits but the last vertical moneyshot, you must make sure it hits because it does double damage of the other swing. Even if he hits all his swings, he still does less DPS than every other flanker in the game.

Zhin's a very positional heavy character. He can fend off an entire team or be unkillable in their backline but he needs to be aware of where the fuck everyone is or he will be chewed to pieces when he gets flanked or is stuck on CD.
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https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/paladins.gamepedia.com/8/80/Fernando_SP_AbilityUltimate_1.ogg
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>>180080232
I wish I was good enough to make sprite art. Paladins Doom would be kind of cool.
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>>180080457
The games industry is frustrating. The shittiness of the whole thing makes a lot of things worse than they should be. If working for them didn't mean less pay for more hours (and a low life expectancy for the position), we might have people who could've fixed things like the shield bugs immediately instead of it taking so long.
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>>180089050
At least they're not as bad as Konami, who will blacklist you so hard you won't even be able to get health insurance if you're an ex-employee that puts them on your resume.
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just had an horrible game as Makoa
I had to bear a flanking Seris calling me a noob and an useless Kinessa. I was on Stone Keep and most of the time Seris was in the castle healing Kinessa while I couldn't even approach the point because of the Drogoz flying free because Kinessa couldn't hit a single shot on him. We did had a good Willo tho, but it wasn't enough. At the end of the match, Seris did 25k heals while fucking Lifelike Ying did 50k
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>>180092598
(i also outdamaged the Kinessa)
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Under which circumstances can I play Ash? She is my guilty pick but oh god, I have zero impact in winning.
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>>180092598
>>180092801

Well, here's hoping your next few games go better.
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>>180092891
thanks
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>>180092598
Forced 50. I just won too much too so hirez decided I should carry 4 russians as a test.
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>people still playing Siege when Onslaught is way less stressful and more fun.
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>>180092837

She seems like she'd handle pretty well on the tighter maps. Her weapon has a big radius, her shield is designed for advancing fire, and Battering Ram gives her some tankiness in close quarters.
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>>180094136
Until you start seeing 2-3 FL on both teams every other game.
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>>180073057
>Pip: catalyst, not as good as acrobatics for a flank pip

What's bad about Pip's healing legendary?
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>raynday showed up in the stream chat to remind people that spamming for skins doesn't work
Poor bastard. He's talking into the wind, since the only ones who would listen are the ones who already don't spam the chat.
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i make poo poo i like pee pee give me crystals or ill go ree ree
reeeereeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>180096026

Mega Potion's a good card-gives him the biggest instant heal in the game, and the right loadout means he can spam those 2400 health potions almost constantly.

I think it's a bit harsh to say Catalyst isn't viable, but I admittedly don't play flanker Pip a whole lot.
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Time for esports (NA) if you're into that kind of thing
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>>180097689

Cool. Yesterday was pretty funny to watch, I wonder if we'll see anything like it today.
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>>180088438
>Paladins Doom would be kind of cool.
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>Dare Rising actually got a cap

noice
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>>180100121
flanking barik getting drogoz made me kek
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>>179995080
Honestly it wouldnt be that bad if there wasnt a card that healed you for 400hp each counter
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>>180100276
They took zero shit in that third round though. Dare Rising needs to settle down, they got the cap but never attempt to reset position, just funneled in.
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>>180100429
Fuck off
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Trying out gigantic, i'll be back in a bit to tell you all how shit or not shit it is.
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>>180100669

Have fun!
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>>180097689
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>/me has just won a Blood Moon Cassie! Type !skin for a chance at your own!
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It'll be interesting to see how Cryptic and Gankstars face off. They dominate the NA scene but have little competition right now.
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What the fuck
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>>180101732
NA usually get their butt whooped by EU, but NA is looking stronger than ever now. We might get some interesting games.
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>>180101803
Pretty standard rule set but
>not hiding twitch chat
>>180101852
I just hope its close, I'm tired of seeing NA being dog shit in every game but its an inevitability with these kind of competitions.
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>Play of the Game
>Skye throws bomb and kills 2 people
or
>Viktor kills 2 people with barrage

every fucking time
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>Over 11k viewers.

I had no idea the people loved Ying and Cassie that much.
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Who else /lucky/ here ?
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NA sure loves their Tyra, huh?
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>>180102435

Hey, congratulations.
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>>180102464
Cassie as well apparently.

>>180102415
freeeeeee
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>>180102435
Not me, that's for sure.
Haven't even gotten a radiant chest yet. Or even smite gems.
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>PaladinsGame now has more viewers then HiRezTV
wew
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>"could be a fernando"
ahahahahahahhddsfsgsqhfnsags
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>>180102435
Got mine yesterday, low-key hoping for Ying now.
>>180102415
I'm telling you dude, they have Dreamhack Maeve in plans and the views will be over the top because of that.
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>turn off chat
>pour myself a drink
>get comfortable
I'm actually enjoying this.
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>>180103675

Yeah, this weekend's been pretty good.
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>>180102763
I really want them to play more Drogoz, they will need him at lan.
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When will we see a Seris price drop down to 5k gold?
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>>180103468
At this point it's just rubbing salt in the wound.
tfw you still want to get Nando to lvl 20, but you just don't know if you can do this
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>>180104001
A few are good at him like stolzey

>>180104248
Not any time soon

>>180104287
Nando is still fine in casuals.
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>>180104248
Probably never, isn't Lex still 7,5k?
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>>180104248
Whenever hi-rez feels like it, so probably after she gets some big nerfs and becomes useless. Hooray new jewery! :)
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>>180104352
>Nando is still fine in casuals.
Maaaybe, just whenever I play him I can't shake the feeling that I could do so much more if I've played any other frontliner.
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>>180104870
In the end, he's still the best looking.
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Fucking hirez just give me the ying skin to continue being a slut in competitive
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Ruckus number one pick right now

>>180104870
Try spamming B laughing as you get kills and go full bully. Nando has this effect on people that generally makes them play worse.
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>>180105046
>Ruckus number one pick right now
Some recognition, long deserved.
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lmao quality work
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>>180105046
Ruckus must be the most balanced champion in the game right now. Really fun to play too for some reason.
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R8 my Ideas
Grokh's totem heals itself.
heal range is now at the range of the max card distance.
said card now reduces the cooldown of totem for every x health it heals.

Grovers heal aoe is halved, BUT he also heals all allies that he can see (ult is unchanged).

Ying
lifelike now enables her basic attacks to heal for the reduced value.
shatter now briefly blinds enemies caught in the blast (multiple blasts increase the duration).
focusing lens now blinds enemies when the bonus damage procs.
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>>180104972
>>180105046
Psychological warfare actually seems like a good idea, I'll try that.
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>>180105754
He really is, Aerial Assault only added to the joy.

Also fucking combustible.
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>>180096026
if it wasn't mentioned then just assume it's viable, even if just in a few specific situations
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>>180105935
disgusting pic
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>>180105934
>Grokh's totem heals itself.
This is interesting, would actually justify taking caut against Grohk.
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>>180106003
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Is Hi-Rez actively trying to ruin friendships and turn people into neets with no social contact?
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>>180106159
it means as long as you don't dump it in the middle of a hard fight it shouldn't die to chance hits since a 500 heal on something that isn't getting focused is pretty good
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how much do you think theyll earn through 13k viewers?
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>>180106621
Can't be much considering they don't even run ads for these events.
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>Martini in the chat, gazing upon monstrosity he created
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>tfw bitey singularly made a champion top tier
his aerial ruckus is fuckin insane
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who /lucky/ here?
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>>180106992

Congrats!
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>>180106992
I'm pretty sure my shit doesn't actually work, I haven't even gotten a chest in months.
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>constant summer puns and metaphors from raynday after a match
>speedo is a recurring theme
a-are we getting a skin for nando
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>>180106927
I swear his Ruckus somehow flies up faster than mine.
Wish I was this good.
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>>180107187
Nah he just wants to see dudes in speedos.
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>>180107169
i just keep it open in a muted tab and look at it maybe once a day.
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>>180107187
N-no way, Anon.
Right? Right?!
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We won

>>180107187
It's just shillday being unable to contain his homolust. Otherwise he would have been mroe direct and told how he is exited to buy chests to get the skin.
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>>180107169
Some guy on chat said to turn off adblocker
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>>180107427
>yesterday gets btfo everytime he goes on the point
>today shits literally blows up near him
I think Unbelivable needs vacation.
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>>180102464

I missed the stream, who was playing Tyra?
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>>180108725
Dare Rising, JAKEB I think. Didn't really do much

>>180107758
I've just been using an install of chrome with no extensions I've never touched for these to be sure, made sure I'm getting ads on twitch and what not. Its just blind luck, bit obnoxious when I watch this shit when it barely had a few hundred viewers but I can't really complain about the huge turn out. Its nice to see.
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>>180109310
Bitey's Tyra is the shit though. I think Perdo played Tyra yesterday too.
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>>180107427
I actually feel bad for him.
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>>180106419
oh hey, I'm in there
this feels righteous after all those times I got memestacked at lower elos
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>tfw never going to get mad scientist pip
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>>180111539
>tfw too lazy to smurf and refer myself enough to get that skin/gun
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Why don't any ELO systems take performance into account? The game already tracks important stats; in particular who gets the most of what.

If you get the most of literally every available stat in a match, don't you think it would be reasonable for a system to say "Hey, maybe this loss wasn't entirely your fault" and lessen your ELO loss - while the Drogoz doing 30k dmg in a 20 minute fight gets the full windfall.

It seems like something that would be easy to implement. But then again, it also seems like it would be easy to implement a matchmaker that more convincingly enforces ELO differences and parties, so I guess that's expecting a lot.
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>>180100669
So these are my first impressions.

Pros:
Fucking polished as fuck third person shooter/hack n slash, feels real nice to play, movement and attacking is slick as fuck
Third person perspective means you're never obstructed by particle effects and shit blocking your sight
The moba gamemode looks nice
The heroes actually have dota style identity (no straight up "classes", every hero does some combination of things and plays very differently)
One hero has really wide hips and requires no aim, meaning you can play while staring directly at her butt
Runs pretty smooth as far as i can tell

Cons:
Literally can't find games lmao, fucking dead on arrival, don't play this until it gets on steam
Voice acting is fucking bad, some heroes have 50% of their lines as "YYYAAAY" and "WHEEEE", others are literally just reciting "Top 500 Most Vague One Liners"
Hero art style is 50% neat and 50% tumblr atrocity that shouldn't be allowed to exist
Lots of mechanics to actually learn before you understand the game fully, definitely plays a lot like a moba
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>>180112713
>Cons
>Lots of mechanics to actually learn before you understand the game fully
?
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>>180113029
as in, the game feels a little bloated with game mechanics.

it's a little too much of a moba.
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>>180112423
Literally go play Overwatch.
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>>180112713
>W10 only

Are those niggas unironically serious?
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>>180112423

Look at Overwatch and search up Mercy Mains.

That's why.
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>>180113524
They realized what a fucking retard move that was and are now going to release it on regular old windows as well.
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>>180112713
>Fucking polished as fuck third person shooter/hack n slash, feels real nice to play, movement and attacking is slick as fuck
Can someone please explain this meme to me
I played a few matches and it feels like the exact opposite
The game's not polished at all, animations feel really cheap, inconsistent and not properly synced and interpolated, movement feels like shit especially with the dumb stamina mechanic that seems to randomly decide if it wants to drain or regenerate, if there are more than 2 people involved in a fight it becomes a clusterfuck of particle effects and you can't see anything, there's a severe lack of feedback for many actions and abilities, and certain heroes have really unresponsive attacks

>Runs pretty smooth as far as i can tell
It's capped at sub-60 fps and has no real fullscreen mode for some retarded reason. It's literally input lag: the game
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>>180112423
Then it turns the game into an EVEN more kill chasing and less point standing and "losing time". Last game me, as a Viktor, I spent all my credits to buy master riding, ran ahead of my team and dismounted every one of their team before they barely even got midway and thus we literally won the fucking match even if I died in the process.
What ELO system takes THAT into account? Though I disagree good performances should be taken into account, BAD performances should be punished. If I lose as a 60/5/30 300k damage drogoz, I lose, but the 1/27/4 Zhin should literally get -1000 ELO for that shit, I swear to god.
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>>180112713

Which designs do you feel are particularly galling?
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>>180113989
i find for example this design particularly galling
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>people are still spamming !getskins on PaladinsGame
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>>180114672
What the fuck is that?
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>>180114672

Wow. Okay, yeah, I can see why people wouldn't like this. Are there others?
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>>180114672

Yeah, that's the one sore tooth on the face of the game. It's so disgusting and inconsistent with the rest of the game as to be utterly horrifying. I don't know how it made it in there.
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>>180112423
Despite your claims that it would be easy, taking into account the hundreds of thousands of ways a person can influence the outcome of a game (and weighing them against each other) is impossible. Look at how awful the game is at determining POTG, imagine if that level of competence deciding your MMR.
It's unnecessary because if you are performing well in any meaningful metric your ELO will rise over the long run (and it will drop over the long run if you play badly) because your winrate will go up or down anyway. ELO is functional and also extemely simple and elegant, there's no reason to bloat it up with other mechanics.
Also it violates the basic idea that a win is a win and a loss is a loss and will inevitably result in people gaming the system. If you want to gain ELO right now it's easy to do: win matches. That creates an ecosystem where most of the time all of the players are (at least in their mind) trying to win, which is how the game should be played and maximizes fun for everyone. When you start throwing other stats into the mix and get some bullshit where you can farm elo by afk pumping shots into Inara's wall, every match will be an autismfest.
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3k elo was a mistake
i don't wanna be here
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>>180115375

And it's not possible to game the current system?
People aren't queueing with low levels and low ELOs to play against new players and make it easier to carry?
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>>180115636
That's a flaw with how the game handles group queues, and a flaw with the fact that "serious" play happens almost exclusively in the "casual" queue due to the issues with competitive. A real competitive setting would force you to play with 9 other random people of similar ELO, or in premade teams of 5 with similar team ELO.

Also within the match everyone is still attempting to win as opposed to intentionally playing sub-optimally for some other outside benefit.
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>Made it to 2.5k elo
https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/paladins.gamepedia.com/0/05/Grover_SP_Laugh_2.ogg
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>>180112713
>Hero art style is 50% neat and 50% tumblr atrocity that shouldn't be allowed to exist
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>>180112713
>Hero art style is 50% neat and 50% tumblr atrocity that shouldn't be allowed to exist
Shit you're right
https://www.gogigantic.com/en/go-gigantic/heroes#hero/aisling
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>>180115636
That's what z1unknown does he plays with his 1500 elo friends who pocket medic him and he shits on players who are barely 2k at best
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>>180116239
SoloQ isn't going to happen, DuoQ and maybe a team league (but game doesn't have the population to deal with it right now)
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>>180114672
Eh, I don't mind it *too* much since she matches the eternal weapon designs, and she's supposed to be a god of sorts, completely different from the rest. Though how bright she is is a complete eyesore.
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>>180116802
>>180117348

I kinda like her mustachioed ghost dad.
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>>180114672
WE...?
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Is the lootbot still working?
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>>180111752

You need to play a min of 10 hours with someone who referred you in order to get it.
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Is the stream still going?
Can I get muh skins from it?
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>>180120080
I managed to refer two people.
One doesn't play and the other's a BR on a potato so he doesn't/can't play either.
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So! We've seen the end result of Ash and Zhin-that should leave us with Rifle/Princess on the docket. Anyone want to take a wild guess at that business?

Also, who the hell is Owl?
>>
Will Princess be elf or human?
>>
The more I play the more I wonder if Paladins isn't a game made by not very bright people. Teams of yes-men who coasted by in college by copying off the one not-shit person in class. People who couldn't code their way out of a paper bag. The 'idea guys' who spend all day drinking coffee and looking up new memes on youtube instead of people who know how their computer works and why mechanics work the way they do.
>>
https://www.thebettermeta.com/charts/legendaries/

Here's the legendaries winrate in Comp. Surprisingly, Retaliation Zhin is winning the most even though you would expect people to stop shooting at him.
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>>180124081
It's a going to be a Princess(male)
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>>180124475
More LGBTQ+ representation is always good.
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>>180124475

I thought that's what Sha Lin was for.
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>>180124691
He needs to crossdress.
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>>180124941
pip
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>>180124941
Ying doesn't take part in lewd activities.
Please delete this.
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>>180125303
Ying was oiling Zhin's sword every night.
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>>180125303

Man, the design team really knocked that new Pip skin out of the park.
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>>180124941
The one with the bigger butt.
Sha lin
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>>180124941
Ying is literally made for pleasing men.
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>>180124081

Well, they have plenty of human ladies, and three elves seems excessive. Personally, my money's on snakelady.
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>>180125760
>>180126280
Stop.
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>>180126983
If maeve wasn't a furry chick then I doubt we're ever getting one
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>>180127278
But Pip does nothing but make furry chicks.
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>party up with someone
>party icons don't light up
>don't get bonus exp
>but still queue together
what the shit
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>>180126983
>Monstergirls
>In Paladins
Unless they bring Medusa or Arachne in the game, all female champions will be humans or elfs.
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>>180127549
Yeah it's fucking incompetence to the max. I'm not a programmer but HOW THE FUCK do you manage to break something that worked in a patch that didn't do anything to the party system.
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>>180128148
TF2 had the same shit. Things unrelated to patch getting bugged for no reason.
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>>180127662
Iirc they did say that they'll add champions of the same races, however they didn't specify which.
i guess we'll just get more lex. and elfs. and boobed elfs. cause thats just how it is.
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He needs a visual redesign so fucking badly, he's a clusterfuck.
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>>180129563
>>
I want Ash to beat me up
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>>180129809

>Revolver AND giant katana

They weren't fooling around with this one.
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>>180129809
>Genji but with a gun

OC donut steel.
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>>180129563
He needs both a visual design and a complete kit rework. They might as well just delete him.
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>>180129563
he's best character in the game aesthetically and functionally. gtfo.
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>>180126983
SUCCUBUS CHAMPION FUCKING WHEN?
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>>180130574
we already have ying tho
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>>180130436
>he's best character in the game aesthetically
are you 10? Nothing in his design goes together, its a mess.
But I guess it looks kewl and badas xDDD (he does not)
>>
I swear Ash looks half black in her pic but white everywhere else
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>>180130735
To be fair, none of the designs in this game are all that good. Androxus takes the cake on shitty design though.
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>>180130664
>>180127240
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>>180130835
which pic?
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>>180130835

>half black

she looks hispanic numnuts
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>>180130918
Many of them are pretty good
>Pic rel
>Buck
>Fernando
>Inara
>Kinessa
>Lex
>Maeve
>Mal'damba
>Seris
>Torvald
Rest of them are generic or just shit but it's still a pretty good score, most games nowadays have shit desings
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>>180130918
The only good design in this game is Bomb King
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>>180131752
Bomb King is bretty gud I agree.

I really like Torvald and Mal'Damba though for being unique characters and good designs.
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>>180131752
>>180131294
>>180130918
Its harded to find bad designs in this game than good ones imo
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>>180131294
Seris is just morrigan with a blindfold.
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>>180132292
Only similarity is the crimson hood.
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>>180131294
>>180131889
the main problem is that the art direction is all over the fucking place.

at the start of the game they had a relatively solid fantasy/sci-fi theme, and the characters reflected that (cassie with her energy bow who also used to have a robotic zigs, skye, kinessa, ruckus, etc.)

but as more champions are being released it feels like they're slowly pulling themselves towards pure fantasy rather then a mix of the two, with cassie's visual rework and the only real pseudo-futuristic champion we've had recently being lex

aaaand since they're pumping out a champion every month they can't spend a whole lot of stepping back and saying "alright what the fuck do we want from these designs"
>>
>WIn
>+7 points
>+1 point

>Lose
>-17 points
>-22 points

Fucking Hell I'm back to 3400 thanks to this fucking new comeback machanic.
WHY THE FUCK CAN THE LOSING TEAM CAP 50% FASTER?
WHY NOT 30% OR 25%
FUCKING BULLSHIT
>>
>no girly male characters yet
>barely any non-normal sized humanoid characters
what gives hirez
>>
>>180134340

>no sexy animalistic women
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>>180134340
I haven't seen a girly man in a MOBA or class shooter yet, its probably too early for use of that sterotype.

Also for humanoids, you have a range already from Child-size Willo and Maeve to giant Stone MILF. When is the next non human champ going to hit?
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>>180134906
Ne Zha from Smite is a bit of a fuccboi
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>>180134906

>When is the next non human champ going to hit?

Bugger if I know, anon. They could a fantasy RCMP mooseman on us at any time.
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>>180135650
hirez didn't create ne zha though, he's been a fuccboi for thousands of years in chinese mythology
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>>180132819
I think hirez is going for a nature vs technology kind of lore (which we know nothing about yet) so it will make sense. I recognised a pattern where all the technolyzed characters are delusional and/or egomaniacal, and the nature themed characters are down to earth. Also, Inara seems to be going on about protecting her land from somebody.
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>>180135650
was*
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>>180135985
Oh no, did they ruin him, or is this just about that skin?
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>(to makoa) Show me your cannon, tough guy. I bet mine's bigger
What did she mean by this?
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>>180136448
I bet her favorite animal is the spotted hyena
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>>180136146
the remodel ruined my cute boi, he looks like an alien now desu
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>>180136570
kek
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>>180136570

I didn't know what you meant, so I looked up spotted hyenas. And what I found was pretty disturbing:

https://youtu.be/qIjgIQweeYA
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WHAT THE FUCK IS WITH THIS MATCHMAKING PUTTING SOLOS AGAINST FULL GROUPS LITERALLY EVERY FUCKING MATCH HOLY SHIT
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>>180137146
female hyenas have pseudo-penises
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>>180137146
Female spotted hyenas have an oversized clitoris, it's so big it looks like a dick.
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>>180137146
The female spotted hyena has a pseudo-penis that they use to bully the males
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>>180137146
>>180137383
>>180137440
>>180137473
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>>180137383
>>180137440
>>180137473
>>180137543

Yeah, I found that bit too. They're kind of cute, though.

https://youtu.be/vocHCD1GRjA
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>>180137440
>>180137383
>>180137473
Now I understand the Gnolls in CoC.
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>>180137664
Yeah but it hardly matters in CoC because everything is a fucking futa
>>
>>180137861
None of the best girls are so whatever.
>>
guys
remember
videogames
>>
friendly reminder if a barik pops his ult on the point during overtime, rather than back off and lose you should dive into it and destroy the turret inside because it's just a bit stronger than a normal turret leaving barik with just a temporary bubble shield
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>>180138001
Hyena Ash skin when
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friendly reminder cauterize is better on fast shooting characters/ flankers who deal constant damage or go for the kill straight away and leave wrecker to the hard hitting champs who can tear shields down with one or two shots once it's leveled up
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What are your favorite champions, /palg/? In terms of gameplay, appearance, whatever.
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>>180138595
Ash

As a character she appeals to a number of specific things I like, but her gameplay is top notch and definitely the most fun yet for me.
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>>180133702
>3400
Where were you before
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FeelsGoodMan
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>>180106419
hahahaha
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>>180106419
I feel bad for that Evie, she wasn't ready for any of that.
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>>180138595
Ash, because her cannon is bigger than Makoa's.
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>>180133702
>WHY THE FUCK CAN THE LOSING TEAM CAP 50% FASTER?
>WHY NOT 30% OR 25%
Honestly, it's probably not a big deal. If you beat them twice already, you should have a large credits advantage on top of having the better team.
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>>180123850
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR2D-zHwYwI

This early version seems cool.
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>>180123850
Don't forget about Stoker.
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>>180144987
Think Stoker might be another fire-based champ? Maybe one with a hammer, since you usually stoke the fires of a smithy.
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>>180145084
I like the theory that he's a vampire.
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>>180145151
>Bram Stoker

Makes sense
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>>180144987

Wasn't there another one? Bard/Astro?
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>>180145243
Maybe that guy always posting that vampire copypasta is really Hi-Rez viralling.
>>
>>180145151
It does make referential sense, but I'm not putting too much stock in that.
Though a vampire toon might be interesting. Part of his kit would naturally be draining life from other characters into his own health pool, like how Torvald's shield drain works.
Come to think on it, Torvald's shield drain may have been the dry run for a skill with 100% life rip.
>>
>toon
FUCK
OFF
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>>180145414
He's supposed to have a lot of vertical mobility, which makes sense for a vampire.

>>180145256
Berserker was one of the other ones.
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>>180145591
Think he'll turn into a cloud of bats for his mobility, or will we get a billow/fog cloud effect?
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>>180145750

Considering Zhin has smoke form, they'd probably go with bats to set them apart.
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>>180145750
I'm wondering what they'll do exactly. He's rumored to be able to wall-run, but we don't know anything about how that'll work. Hopefully they can get it done enough to be playable.
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When will Maeve get her buffs?
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>>180146141
Hopefully never.
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>>180146141
After she's returned to factory standard.
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>>180146141
>bbc.jpg
?
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I want to see Cassie getting LEXED!
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>>180146141
Just give her pounce distance back already.
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>>180139374
Ash is genuinely one of the best champs in a while. Everyone is instalocking Zhin, and I'm just happy I can play her.
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>>180149202
>ying
>not skye
Maybe if there were three of her.
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>>180149202
Ying doesn't behave like this.
She is cute and innocent.
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>>180149309
Yeah that would be better, noted.

Ying just seems like the biggest slut
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>>180149309
there are no skilled skyes
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>>180150294
Well, who else has an ass like that?
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>>180150624
buck
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>reddit can't handle an interspecies relationship
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>spend good portion of weekend reviewing vods of high level games since I haven't done it in a while
>start playing some games at 2500~ elo

Holy shit people are bad at this game its actually generally hilarious. You can watch Drogoz sit on ult for 10 minutes plus only to use it at 3-3 overtime after his entire team has died, Willos who will never touch high ground and other hilarious shit that generally makes no sense. This isn't a complaint, more an observation but good lord I can't wait until the ranked rework to play with the tryhards and hackers. Its interesting to say the least.
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>>180151860
I've seen my entire team sit on their ults the whole game. It's frustrating.
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>>180106419
They just believe in the power of friendship!
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>>180152180
Sometimes its just interesting, the -20 game was hard as balls and I made minimal mistakes, just needed someone else to pull through a play or two to win the game but it didn't happen. Fun game though, the other was just a bully game that ended fast. The contrast feels so weird but I got a lot out of the lost game. It generally pisses me off how stimulating this game can be. Lost game was vs a bunch of sub 2ks as a party, the win was with a bunch of 2ks (i'm 2550 at the moment, peaked at 2800 but I play while getting drunk af since woo)

Willo is stupidly fun regardless
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>reddit
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>>180158696
They must have an eyebrow fetish.
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>>180158696
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>>180145379
>we haven't seen him in a while
Hmmm...
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>>180004095
Ammo back on dash only works every 5 seconds.
>>
>>180161997
>No ammo
>Use Q or run away because fuck you I can go across the map and back in 5 seconds
>Come back with full ammo
>Repeat
>>
https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/paladins.gamepedia.com/b/bf/Grover_TR_Idle_2.ogg
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>>180144987
Wasn't Stoker scrapped though? He was nowhere in the latest dataminings.
>>
How do I git gud with ash
>>
>>180154795
>she doesn't play better when drunk
nigga come on
>>
>>180166746
Buy caut
Locate enemy healer
Bully them until they are dead
Also remember that you can kill people around the corners by shooting in their general direction, you can shoot people behind the shields by shooting above it too.
>>
Who should I play if I want to get an easy win and stomp?
>>
>>180167157
Your best chances are Andro, Drogoz and BK. Maybe Evie.
>>
>>180166542
Datamine for OB52 is out?
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>>180168013
Nah, that's from datamining a long time ago.
So far, what we know is that Astro [sup], the next support, will be released after Princess [dmg], and both Stoker [mechanic: wall-running] and Berserker [mechanic: buffs at certain HP%] are thus pushed back further into the pipeline.
>>
Is Willo good?
>>
>>180168770
How about play and see for yourself?
>>
>>180168770
She's okay, now that she got buffed she's not just Andro's fodder.
>>
How many hours should I have before I consider ranked?

I'm alright because of plenty of practice in other games like this
>>
>>180170110
Everybody here says to not touch ranked, because it's the same thing of casual but with longer queue times. I'm on lv43 and didn't touched yet too.
>>
>>180170110
It's not the matter of 'how many hours', more like how many champions you have unlocked and at level 4 and how many of them from each class you can play, I think.
>>
>>180170110
>>180170606
Yeah, there currently aren't many reasons to play ranked, since the queue times are way longer and you can jerk to your elo at paladinsguru instead of ranked rating if big numbers are your thing, even pro players stick to casual most of the time. The only benefits of ranked I can think of are the fancier champion borders and no mirror matches, if you consider that an issue.
>>
>no small and fast champ that can wall jump with an SMG
>no bard support champ that provides movement utility - increased runspeed, super jump height, invisibility, and an ultimate that gives everyone a jetpack
>no gravity based champ that can walk on walls and ceilings
>no shapeshifting champ
>Tyra doesn't have a Bear Trap instead of Grenade launcher to go with her lore and help protect her from flanks
>Fernando's shield doesn't have minor damage reflection to allow him to provide damage and pressure while protecting
>Zhin exists

shit game
>>
>a player failed to join
>three fucking times in a row
>>
i don't get this datamining mania people seem to have. whats so adictive about getting things spoiled for yourself?
>>
^ look at this idiot
>>
>>180174426
But we need something to shitpost about.
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>>180174067
>Tyra doesn't have a Bear Trap instead of Grenade launcher to go with her lore and help protect her from flanks
>Fernando's shield doesn't have minor damage reflection to allow him to provide damage and pressure while protecting
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How do I become not trash with BK? I win tons of games by doing lots of disruption, but I always score very low overall. I'm pretty sure that's not optimal
>>
>>180174426
You get something to look forward to.
>>
>>180175018
download skill
>>
>>180174426
not a spoiler if you heard about it first, thats why ppl that hear this shit cant wait to spoiler other ppl that way they feel smarter despite getting spoilered in the first place
>>
>caring about spoiliops
>>
fuck off mcmillen
>>
>first game in 3 days
>afk drogoz

such a great game
>>
>>180174675
>bear trap slows, bleeds and causes the target to become marked by Tyra
man that fits too well with her
>>
>>180174426
I don't get it either. It's like people who watch an entire playthrough of a game before buying it
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>>180177220
>bait someone into your trap
>throw molotov at them
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>>180176905
>win next 2 games
>lose the 4th thanks to an afk tyra

why are they so fucking bad with punishment for afks
>>
>>180178479
you want them to be banned for afking once?
>>
>>180178554
i want them to get banned if they don't reconnect
>>
>>180178615
you've never had to pause a game because something unexpected came up, ever?
losing because of an afk sucks but it happens in every multiplayer game and banning for a single afk game is stupid
>>
What's the best to play if you only ever enjoy playing the objective?
>>
>>180174426
I only really care about "spoilers" when it comes to stories not stuff like this.
>>
>>180178969
Barik or Inara.
>>
>>180179201
Not Ash?
>>
>>180180218
Ash is okay, though her shield leaves a lot to be desired when you are contesting.
>>
>queue for 15 minutes to get a fucking game
>someone goes afk

this game is garbage, utter garbage. I can go, join a tf2 server and play nonstop for hours, HOURS. And on this fucking game i have to wait more time in queue than i actually play.
>>
>>180181079

Curious, I'm usually in after a couple minutes at most. I do sometimes get people who time out in the ready check or at the champion screen-that isn't fun.
>>
>>180181079

My average time is 1-2 minutes. Only time it takes longer is when several people drop.
>>
>>180180607
What about the slow version of it?
>>
>>180127240
https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/paladins.gamepedia.com/0/0d/DarkLord_TR_Taunt_Directed_ying_1.ogg
>>
>>180181079
Where do you live? I get queues in 1-2 minutes in the middle of the night in EU.
>>
>>180181684
It's still not tall enough, you can get shot above it. But it's fun to push people off the point with Kinetic Burst as Ash, so she's still very good at playing objective.
>>
>>180097689
Holy shit those are really cute concepts, why can't we have this?
>>
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/X0m40
this is pretty cool
i hope he puts his talents in porn next time
>>
>>180181912
Too vague to draw conclussions from.
Maybe he's pissy against that clan she's in that I can't remember the name of, tried to take it over or destroy it, and she was part of the defense that stopped it.
Get your mind outta the gutter.
>>
>>180182120
He says it with the sorta tone you have while you're smiling, though.
>>
>>180182915

Perhaps he's fantasizing about burning down her clan's homes while they sleep? He seems like the kind of guy that'd smile when he thinks about that.
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>>180181912
You just know.
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>>180183154
He doesn't seem like the sort of guy that smiles at all, so it's probably some memory of ying being the slut that ying is
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>>180183720
Stop calling Ying a slut.
>>
What's the ultimate meme trick to win every time?
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>>180183956
but she is
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>>180183720
Can you imagine the things Zhin made her do when she was part of his harem?
>>
>have lost 5 matches today
>4 because of AFKers who never connect and 1 thanks to a maeve who spammed VHS after every death so i told her to slit wrists and then she afked all match

this game is actual fucking garbage people can just afk with no punishment whatsoever
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>>180184198
>>180184378
STOP
DO NOT START THESE LIES AGAIN
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>>180184473
it's the truth, anon. Ying was made for bully and lewd.
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>>180184473
what are you gonna do about it
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>>180184094
>>
Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Do People Still Get Flanked By Nando Hahahaha Nigga Just Walk Away From Him Like Nigga He Got Shit Movement Haha
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>>180184550
You're wrong.

>>180184561
Don't push me.
>>
>>180175219
>>180174569
but you can still look forward to things when they're properly announced. isn't your hype/somewhat picked interest half dead by the time the thing comes out?

haven't you thought this might be why your interest in the game is dying as well? (at the very least, you can't deny it isn't helping it)
>>
Should I try to pick a character that covers up up the team's weakness or let my team of 3 flankers and one damage dealer die like the dogs they are?
>>
>>180185056

>3 flank, one damage

At that point, I'd say play whatever you want, really.
>>
>>180185056
follow them as the 4th flanker and wreck faces

they will never see it coming
>>
>>180184974
show me your autism
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>>180185320
No.
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>>180185056
play pip
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