/bbg/ - Bloodborne General

I will hug the doll and hold her hand.

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PURGE FILTH

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1st for cucks.

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Should have used this for the OP Image.

Old hunters or Dynasty warriors 8 on sale

Which one should I get /bbg/?

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I still have Micolashs left

>>175951428
Old Hunters. Hands down the best content From Soft has ever made.

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>>175951515
Alrighty then

>>175951428
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbGdIdHOO3I

got some drawing requests? it can be your characters or maymays or something.

>>175951767
Ludwig and Laurence sitting together drinking tea talking about whatever.

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>>175951767
Beast master as the Good Hunter, the beast as a werewolf, the kid as the Little Girl's Sister and the man as Djura.

>>175951754
I wish poison was good again.

>>175951767
An unfortunate vileblood popping into a guys realm to invade, only to be startled and afraid when the beckoner has an insane look in his eyes and is repeatedly smashing the corpses of crows in a corner with the kirkhammer

>>175951767
Amelia and Priscilla (from DaS1) having a tea party/picnic while talking about the trouble it takes to keep their hair fluffy. Child-sized, chibi good hunter and chosen undead play in the background

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>>175951767
Gehrman, Willem and Laurence posing for a group photo back in the good old days, sorta like this.

>>175951767
Two hunters on a small boat in the Fishing Hamlet, fishing

Whats a place that has a lot of people beckoning before rom? Amelia?

>>175953015
Ludwig always has tons of activity.

Is the best way to gather sage's hair, yellow backbone and bastard of loran to run the story chalices or farm them from enemies?

No one found any dungeon with those materials inside chests in 1st layer?

>>175953084
Story chalices might not give you that many, I usually farm enemies for it with stacking Eye runes. Otherwise, Sinister Depth 5 dungeons work well since they have the same loot pool as FRC, and can give you the materials you need from loot or enemy drops.

>>175952757
THIS

>>175953084
I always have a shitton of Sage's Hair because its a fairly common drop from Yeeeart the Hedgehogs. I farm Yellow Backbones at, if I recall correctly, casu4dqm. There is a mummy pretty much right after the L1 lamp that is really easy to backstab. For bastards I usually just run story loran.

>>175953419
How human Larry looks like?

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>listening to BB OST
>The First Hunter

Goddammit it still today strikes me deeply

>>175953932
beautiful ost, very high quality

>this general is still alive

Nice. Haven't been here since the release of the DLC.

You lads reckon we will see a sequel to Bloodborne this E3?

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>>175953932
>tfw you still can't stop listening to ahh kos track

That voice, that voice....

>>175954125
Hopefully not.

If I set up a savescum for heavy abyssals, would anyone join? The glyph is swjteujh and the pass is heavy if anyone's interested, I'm uploading my save to USB now.

>>175954125
Not a sequel. Probably a similar game though.

>>175954319
I will join

>>175954125
I hope not.

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>>175953797

>>175954464
Beckoning at the stairs now, then.

>>175953932
>O venator
>Beatus sanctus

I get chills down my spine and I can't help but smile, and it's the same with anyone I know who's played BB.

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>>175954648
ULTRA FUCKING GAY

>>175954319
still ringing?

>>175954648
This looks more like a Cainhurst that inspired the Knight's Wig

>>175954648
>>175953797
Like Edgar, but with brown hair and no glasses.

>>175954351
how a prequel?

>>175954843
>my first ever Heavy Abyssal
>8.8% Attack down
:^( ringing again

Can anybody come along and slap Martyr Logarius for me? pw is bbg, I'm a the fog. I'm level 49 if it matters

So is the bloodletter worth going with a strengthtinge build?

>>175955775
>I'm level 49 if it matters
It does matter.

>>175955828
>is this strength bloodtinge weapon good on a strength bloodtinge build

>>175955828
Bloodletter is objectively better than the Chikage, so yes.

>>175955775
Ringing.

>>175955828
No, it's better on Skl/Arc.
Yes, it was designed specifically for that attribute setup.

>tfw you cheese your way through the first area of the dlc thanks to the kirkhammers pancaking abilities 300 damage at a time
This thing is bullshit

>>175955775
Thanks man! That was pretty quick <3

>>175956163
>kirkhammer takes half the game to be actually good
>ludwig is still better
Must feel bad to be just as cucked as a vilecuck.

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>>175955401

>>175955401
Darker hair, probably, maybe longer than Edgar's. A style close to Alfred's, maybe.

Sorry Feral

>>175956661
I think you got them mixed up my dude. Ludwigs takes way more stats to start getting higher damage.

>>175956661
Were we not just talking about how ludwigs takes longer than kirk to start seeing bigger numbers like 2 threads ago?

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Reminder this is the hardest BB boss.

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>>175957438

>>175957438
>HBLB
>hard

>>175956684
And actual eyebrows.

>>175957164
No, you were butthurt the kirkhammer is complete shit compared to the ludwig's and utter shit to the pizza cutter.

trying to get a working ps4+controller for under $150 on ebay. what's a good price to target? how long before ps4+controller is $120?

Leddit found revered great one coldblood and what did we find? a bunch of useless OOB glitches, please datamine this fucking game already

>>175957874
PS3 + controller is barely $120 now, so do the math.

>>175957787
(You)

>>175957438
he just has a lot of health but he's no big deal

>>175957875
Glyph?

>>175957980
No glyph. Somebody just hacked the game.

>>175957980
no glyph, file editing

>>175955941
>>175956126
I meant more so is the weapon and build shitty

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>>175958047
>>175958057
How boring

>>175957438
The thumbnail looked like HMPH.

Do HA make tricked BLT weapons scale with STR?

>>175957585
What's hard for you then, Laurence? He's pretty tough, yeah. Orphan? Literal piss, almost beat him the first time.

>>175958424
No

>>175956661
Show me on the doll where the hammer pancaked you

>>175958462
>HBLB
>hard

>>175958462
Laurence is a joke. Only boss that is tough is HMPH without parries.

>>175958107
The weapon's great, the build will have the most variety for Blt without going 50/50 Skl/Blt. 14 Str is enough for it since tricked scales only with Blt and untricked is inferior. You could get 28/30 Str for big guns and some usage of the untricked mode.

>>175958462
FRC Camera Beast

>>175958420
Love doing HMPH without viscerals, makes the fight tense as fuck.

Please help with Undead Giant, I can't figure out how you're meant to fight this thing. Can't even cheese him from range because of how far he swings.

Lower Pthumerian, layer two (I think). Pass: bbg

>>175958535
>PVPfag
Kill yourself, you subhuman baboon, niggers like you ruined the souls series.

>>175958750
Ringing

>>175958848
What the fuck are you talking about? PvP is a joke in ds3 and PvE is the main focus now. Go cry somewhere else.

>>175958848
The "community" ruined DaS.

>>175958947
Segalt is here

>>175958750
Did it count?

>>175959000
>>175958973
>DS3 is PvE
>No poise
>Infinite stamina
>Barely any custom moveset
>No upgradable armors
>Defense barely effective

>>175958947
>>175959127
>>175959265
I deserved that for trying to steal the killing blow at the end, lel.

It actually still counted, thanks guys. Hope it went through on your end too.

Sorry again Feral. I got one of these 'TV is about to turn off' messages.

>>175958848
What is fucking gods name are you even talking about? You're just responding to random shit and posting worthless drivel for yous aren't you? Here take it faggot.

>>175959307
I'm not really defending DaS3 because I absolutely fucking hate that they didn't revamp all the moveset and reused shitty plastic animations from 1, but it does have poise and had for quite a while now.
Poise in general is a shitty system though that is absolutely inferior to hyperarmour, which is also why BB is superior.

>>175959525
Poise > HA.

Does beast mode do anything without using the beast claws?

>>175959763
Yea, but you'll say anything for replies

>>175959936
Even were that true, it doesn't mean I am wrong.

>>175959936
>Yea
>implying that poise is indeed better than HA
They're functionally the same, it's just that one requires timing and the other one does not.

>>175959525
>Poise in general is a shitty system though that is absolutely inferior to hyperarmour
Not a Soulsfag. What's the difference between the two and what does it have to do with Bloodborne?

>>175959818
It raises your Beasthood.

>>175959818
The Beast's Embrace rune adds to your beasthood slightly, and changes your appearance. Nothing else apart from the Claws.
Now that I look at the rune itself again, it reminds me slightly of a scorpion. It's either an ascended form of vermin, or it's just me.

What type of weapon would you like to add in Bloodborne? What would it's trick moveset be like? What would it transform into (if you want it transform into something)?

>>175960139
A BOOMerang, it's a left hand weapon.

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>>175960079
Poise = Being able to move and attack without being staggered by attacks

Hyperarmour = MASSIVE FUCKHUGE WEAPONS THAT TAKE OFF HALF YOUR FUCKING HEALTH BAR CAN'T BE INTERRUPTED, but you can still interrupt certain attacks and cause your opponent to stagger while moving

>>175960139
More offhand weapons that are not rifles/pistols, like maybe a silver shortsword with a sicknasty backhand grip, or a mummified hand wielded by ritekeepers that shoots fireballs, or a torn-off tail of those pthu manscorpions that serves as a whip-like weapon and applies poison.

>>175960079
Hyperarmor is where during specific attacks there is a specific time where you can't be interrupted. Poise is just where there is just a certain threshhold you can take and anything under that threshhold won't make you get interrupted

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I'm so fucking mad.

>>175960698
Why this is a thing
at all

>>175960075
HA is worse and just promotes R1 spamming. Poise allows for a larger range of tactics and is less luck based.

>>175960139
Sword breaker/parry dagger.

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>>175960698
>-8.5% ATK

WHAT
YOU DON'T RIKE IT
*RAUGHS IN JAPANESE*

>>175960385
>>175960612
So poise is worse and just promotes R1 spamming while hyper armor allows for a larger range of tactics and is less luck based.

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>>175960698
I have one like this as well.
Ended up using a +65 STR ATK+15 -9HP one at todays impromptu FC, wasn't that bad honestly, was definitely winning more than losing so HP drain doesn't seem like a really bad curse. Although it feels pretty hopeless when you have a slither of HP left.

>>175961138
Poise is more punishable than Hyperarmour desu.

Hyperarmour promotes spamming attacks with massive weapons that give you poise boosts, while poise can only really be achieved by wearing heavy, sturdy armour, which can be punished by skilled/nimble players

>>175960139
Not so sure about the right hand, but I have some for the left.
Coach Gun
>A weapon commonly used by Yharnamites who have joined the hunt. Not originally intended to be used by hunters, but has since been re-purposed, and functions similar to a double-barreled Blunderbuss. What it lacks in a huge use of bullets it makes up for in a wide spread and damage at close range.
Talbot's Crossbow
>A crossbow wielded by Talbot, a Hunter of Hunters and ranger of the Forbidden Woods. Uses Quicksilver Bullets modified into bolts, fired without a sound. Talbot's usage of this weapon proved his preference to maintain silence and stealth during his hunts, and his admiration of Simon, the Harrowed Hunter.

>>175960951
>A permanent stagger threshhold that's always on your character promotes less spamming than just having a stagger threshhold on specific attacks at certain times
Holy fucking shit luci are you completely braindead

>>175961273
>heavier sturdy armour
>when there are a bazillion ways to just equip something and reduce your equipment weight to nothing in several games
Put your trip back on

>>175961273
I have yet to play DaS but from what you're saying I guess you can't parry big weapons.

>>175961432
You only get HA when attacking. Same with your opponent. As such, R1 spamming is promoted.

Doing that when you both had a set threshold gets your ass poise stabbed, which discourages mindless R1 spam.

No go be stupid somewhere else.

>>175961273
The only problem with that is the flipping havels and giantdads of DaS1. Obviously you could just have more softcaps or more punishing softcaps on END but for whatever reason that isn't considered viable by whoever makes the balance patches at Fromsoft.

Does anyone know where I can download that save editor?

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>>175951316
But what if you can't hold her hand because you turned into a slimy squid

>>175961273
>Poise is more punishable than Hyperarmour desu.
How fucking so if they're functionally the same? Poise doesn't even benefit heavier weapons as much as it benefits lighter ones in a case of light weapon vs another light weapon.
Yes it's a false equivalance that DaS1 had the strongest poise but weakest greatweapons, but being unable to break their momentum at all times is not what greatweapons need, they need faster attack speed (while still not fast as lighter weapons) and certain minor amount of hyperarmour during their swings. BB nails it down almost ideally, although I'd say some things could definitely be tweaked.

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>>175960698
DO YOU RIKE IT???

Reminder to ignore tripfags

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>>175961596
They can be parried.
it's just riskier to do than with smaller weapons

>>175961558
I'm just saying that both Poise and Hyperarmour have their upsides and downsides. It's just that Hyperarmour is a bit more annoying to deal with than poise.

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>the music in the hunter's dream

>>175961834
So fucking this. BB really nailed it with heavy weapons, even if some could use some extra HA. Kirk for example has way too late HA on attacks except transformation ones.

Another problem that some weapons have, but I have no idea what is named, it's not too much hyperamor, but "too soon" hitboxes. Like you clearly interrupted the attack in time, but the hitbox still travels and hits you anyway (and vice versa, you ger interrupted but your hitbox still connects). It happens a lot with the whirligig and the chikage.

>>175962335
>you clearly interrupted the attack in time, but the hitbox still travels and hits you anyway
Thank Kos__ rally exists because that would be cancerous without it.

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Finally. Did you get anything good, Helios?

>>175962335
Some of that might just be connection issues on the PvP scene, but it does feel like the Whirligig deals damage just a split second before actually hitting the target.

WAIT ARE YOU FARMING HAS AM I MISSING OUT I DIDNT SEE THE ANNOUNCEMENT

>>175962921
Jezebel is farming Heavies and I got none

>>175963039
Can I join? What was the glyph?

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Post canon damage

>>175962921
>>175963132
I just got >>175962657 but I could run the dungeon again to set up another savescum. The glyph is swjteujh and the pass is heavy.

>>175963250
Wtf am I looking at here

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>>175963250
wtf

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>>175963250
Is this some new Powder Keg weapon? The Cannon to destroy us all?

>>175963250
Is this damage canon?

>>175963250
what did you do?!

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>>175963250

>>175963250
>those runes
Why

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>>175963250
UNFF

>>175962335
not really. I can beat out Kirk hammer's HA just by dashing in with the saif, hitting them before the HA activates, hit them a second time, then dash out before they can do shit.

I can also hit confirm spins with my Rakuyo, because I can delay slightly, to see if they pressed R1 again, and if they did, I can get off another spin before their HA activates.

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>>175960698

>>175963250
what the fuck

show the gems

>>175962657
Yes, I got one heavy abyssal.

>>175961803
Then she'll just hold me in her hands.

>finally get wheel for my arc build
>it's boring as fuck

>>175960139
I had an idea for a bloodtinge weapon once upon a time, but I can't remember all the finer autistic details. It was a bladed parasol, closed when untricked with either a pure thrust moveset or just mostly thrust. Tricking it opens the parasol, two-handing it and leaning it against your shoulder. There's a dagger in the handle that you quickdraw to slash and stab with, inflicting rapid poison and doing split physical and blood damage. The L2 takes a chunk out of your health and makes an area of effect that causes blood to rain around you, damaging opponents caught in it over time as well as significantly slowing their stamina recovery. Trick attack from pokey stabby to parasol is a two-handed upward thrust that opens it as well, untrick is a floaty twirl ending in a downward stab, closing it and causing a blood splash.

As much as I hate Vilebloods, I do think the game needs at least one other bloodtinge weapon. Only having three to choose from is inexcusable when every other stat gets such a varied arsenal.

>>175964603
>finally get to play again after 2 weeks
>load up my arc character
>get bored and wanna start a 99 STR kirkhammer build or some shit

>>175964838
I had one idea, fairly simple Blt weapon. It was a shotel in the untricked form, but straightened into something like a falchion in the tricked form, when smeared blood, taking out an amount of health, similar to the Bloodletter. The shotel for would be meant for close range and speed, while the falchion for a longer range and heavier hits, at the cost of speed. Now that I think about it, it's uncomfortably close to a Chikage, but getting a shotel would be nice.

>>175961771
Is there such a thing? I would love to change the looks of my characters

hey guys rate my meme build

https://mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne/23801

>>175963250
What the fuck

>>175963273
Okay, uploading to USB now. If anyone wants to get in, I'll be beckoning in a few minutes.

>>175965808
Better be wearing Cainhurst armor

>>175965808
Needs more endurance.

>>175962075
The problem, IMO. is that poise and equip weight are broken mechanics in their core.

The person who needs poise the most - the slow heavy weapon user - is less likely to wear heavy armor, because his weapon already has retarded high str req (some ultra have req above the hardcap), retarded high stamina cost and thus requiring extra investment in stamina and on top of that, the weapon has its own weight needing even MORE vit just to wear it. On top of already needing END, VIT and STR just to be usable, these weapons are so slow you'll only get hit ins trading, so you need HP too because you WILL be trading and you need to survive.

On another hand, the guys who needs it the least - the fast spammy weapon user - has more than enough points spare to invest in VIT and wear everything he wants. He doesn't need high END because his weapon has very low stamina cost; He doesn't need extra VIT because his weapon is also light; And he also doesn't need that much HP, he'll be fast and doesn't need to rely on trades. The only stats he needs to invest are DEX and an almost negligible amount of STR.

The result is for the guy with the ultra great sword is almost impossible to equip heavy armor and gain poise, while the estoc user can use high poise high defense with just barely any VIT. Even if he does need VIT at all, he has more than enough spare points because his weapon is so low stat hungry.

[cont]

>>175965808
id honestly go for two stam runes on that, 10% more hp will barely make a difference

>>175966196

This is a CORE problem that is present in all three Dark Souls and can only be fixed with Hyper Armor - an atribute related to the weapon who suplements the weapon that neends it the most. I don't know how the pvp of Dark Souls 3 is now, but after the poise patch before Ringed City they basically killed all ultra weapons for good, there was no reason to use an UGS over a GS. The GS could have just as much HA as the UGS by abusing its lightweightness, but being way more fast and reactive and doing just as much damage because of guaranteed combos (another terrible thing present in all Souls games, that doesn't exist in BB). The only usable UGS were the zwei and the AGS because they were long and light. If the situation for UGS were this bad, don't even get me started on Greataxes and Greathammers.

I love big retarded weapons that hit hard and feel good and this disavantage is something I always hated and tried to overcome by being better, but it was always obvious how disproportional it was the amount of effort I had to put with my Greataxe to hit someone compared how they could just land a straight sword combo for the same damage.

[cont]

>>175966196
Except those big weapons tend to do more damage in addition to more poise damage as well.

>>175966347
Then enters Bloodborne. Bloodborne is PERFECT. It has none of this retarded shit: Armors are all balanced around and there is no equip weight, weapons don't weight either and none of them have some bloated high req to use; There is no stunlock, you can escape any attack after being hit once if you have stamina; Heavy weapons are slow but not retarded slow, they strike fast but have high recovery, so people can't just react dodge to you, but can punish your mindless whiffs. Talking about punishing, in Dark Souls 3 you can just spam roll and you'll likely never get hit EVER by a heavy weapon and if you're not sure just roll twice and you're invincible. Heavy weapons already hit hard in Bloodborne (Real hard, not fake hard like in Dark Souls because of combos), but if you spam dodge without thinking and someone catches you you're fucking dead because instability damage will flat you. This is absolutely perfect. Heavy weapons are just as good in Bloodborne as people say they were in Demon's Souls (never played, can't back this up).

This is one of the reasons why I can't go back o Dark Souls after Bloodborne. Bloodborne perfect everything so much, don't even get me started on how better the blood vial is to estus, how incredible and creative magic is Bloodborne compared to the boring spammy shit in Dark Souls, how every weapon is so fucking unique that each one is worth at least 20 in Dark Souls, how EVERY FUCKING SET looks gorgeous in some way, how dash is superior both in looks and mechanically to roll in every single possible way imaginable. EVEN THE FUCKING MUSIC SOUNDS BETTER. I know most of this is subjective, but for me, Bloodborne is what the souls formula looks like when perfected, with its ONLY flaw being not being able to warp between lamps and the lack of variation on chalices.

tldr; Bloodborne is a mechanically perfected version of Dark Souls, with another setting.

>>175963273
>>175965872
Ringing again

>>175966478
Blood vials have big fucking problems, I was with you until that line, and most of the "magic" in bloodborne is downright useless unless you're specced perfectly for it and their cost is high

>>175966478
BB messed up by including gems, which greatly imbalances everything, by not having fair arenas, and by not auto-restoring items after PvP.

You're still never going to get hit by a slow weapon if you have half a brain.

>>175966843
Gems are an excellent addition, they just need to have more variety and not be korean tier grindfests to get the best possible ones, just regular tier grindfests for the best possible ones

>>175966478
I actually agree with the blood vials, big time. Dark Souls gives you infinite no string attached healing, Bloodborne forces you to get good and not waste your shit by being panicky and stupid, but is still generous in its drops with them. It de-emphasizes banging your head against something and tasks you with actively trying to overcome it. You really do learn to get creative, use rally and heal.

Reminder to ignore tripfags

>>175966820
I think Vials are better than Estus in most points (not all), but I'll admit they are not perfect. Dark Souls 1 would be perfect if humanity wasn't a thing, but we can't pretend it wasn't just because we don't want to.

The perfect estus system for me is actually Salt & Sanctuary. Being mediocre all around, this is the one thing the game did right.

>>175967085
Standard procedure.

>>175966969
Nah, the game is way more balanced without them. At most gems should have changed scaling. For example, a fire gem should have changed LHB to Arc scaling, but added no damage.

>>175967080
>>175967160
Best part of vials is that they can be parried.

>>175966820
>Blood vials have big fucking problems
Such as?
>and most of the "magic" in bloodborne is downright useless unless you're specced perfectly for it and their cost is high
Wrong. Tools really shine at 99 ARC but I find them very useful at 15 and 50.

>>175967080
I do agree with you on that point in a PvE context, but they're essentially too good in PvP. You can parry them, but that practically comes down to luck if you take into account latency. Nailing someone with BMAd repeater round to finish them when you know they're going to heal only works consistently at close-mid range, if they're to far away they can literally casually walk past your bullet as they juice themselves

>>175967596
Don't let them get away then. If someone is at low hp I stick to their ass and don't let go.

>>175967275
>15 arc meme
LOL.

The lowest you should ever have for utility tools is 18 or nothing.

>>175967275
I think he meant more in a variety type of way. I mean what is even useful in an everyday situation at 15 ARC? You've got beast roar and that's pretty much it. Hunters bone is pretty neato too but in a PvE setting it's useless. Better off spending those bullets parrying.

>>175967816
So you'd chase them down into the rakuyo well too?

I need some help through Cainhurst, want to get my Wheel early, does anyone want to come?
pw bbg

>>175967997
Assuming I don't get hypercucked by that rapscallion, I'll be along ASAP

>>175967845
>he needs bullets to parry
OHB deserves more love

>>175967997
I'll try tagging along as well

>>175968197
Are you implying you can parry with old hunters bone

>>175968268
>he can't parry with OHB

>>175968268
I'm implying that you can bloodbullet and rally back

>>175968343
>he can't parry with pebbles

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>>175951767
Chris Chan as the Good Hunter holding the plain doll with an exaggerated sex doll mouth with one hand and a cup of coffee in the other while the Hunter's Dream burns down in the background.

ARCs only saving grace is the gem system. If you couldn't make your weapons decent on a 50+ ARC build it would be 100% a meme.

>>175968452
Would running guidance runes on an ARC build be legit then?

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>>175968550
You keep telling yourself that

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>>175968550
It would still have more options than BLT

>>175966478
I think the lamp warp is better this as it incentivizes walking on foot instead of just warping around like a fag like in DS2/3.

As far as your other points go, I think that Bloodborne's trick weapon system is MUCH superior to the rigid movesets of DS and while the weapon arts were an okay addition to DS3, they are not nearly as fluid.

DS1 still has the overall best designed game WORLD for me though with it's interconnections.

And Bloodborne's magic isn't really magic per se which is fine.

BB is the result when From could actually chuck stuff they DIDN'T want into the trashbin and they could make a super focused game, DS3 is what happened when they tried to cram mismatching elements in one gsme resulting in a fun but schizophrenic mess with no identity.

>BLT has 2 maybe 3 right hand weapons
>ARC has every weapon in the game assuming they meet the stat requirements

Vilecucks on suicide watch.

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>do beast claw build
>absolutely suck with it
even if I attack first, it always ends in a trade and has little reach. how do I get good with it?

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>>175967997
AT LAST I CAN PURGE
Thank you so much for carrying my sorry ass

>>175968941
>Get no health back from rally because you do no damage since you have no scaling
>Use executioners glove like 5 times and augur a bunch before you're out of bullets and then be completely dead in the water
It would depend entirely on how well you can land augurs, it would be completely fucked if it didn't do great damage by itself.

>>175969149
>DS1 still has the overall best designed game WORLD for me though with it's interconnections

Sure the first half is uncontested but the rest of the game falls apart in terms of level design..

>>175969253
Go fight the beast hunter in the dlc area and do what he does except have 99 vit like him and don't get stuck on walls

>>175969426
>no scailing
>what are cold abyssals
>what are bloodbullets

Your just upset you didn't level arcane, admit it

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>>175969253
Don't let beasthood empty, don't get hit and you're good

>>175969458
The first half of DS1 is longer than the entirety of the base game of Bloodborne.

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>>175969757
And your entire arugment for what makes a game good or bad falls apart right there... good talking to you buddy

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>>175969738

is the church pick good for a skill/arcane build?

>>175969960
Probably. Skill/Arcane isn't exactly common so it'd be helpful to know what your stats are or are going to be.

>>175969960
>skill/arcane
No

>>175969960
It'll either scale solely with Str/Skl if you use Physical gems or just Arcane if you use fire/bolt/arcane gems. So it's usually better to either just go full Skill (with a bit of Strength) or full Arcane. There are no weapons that scale with Skl/Arc together effectively besides HMS which leans more towards Str/Arc.

>>175970065
>>175970086
>>175970264
what about using physical churck pick with hunter tools on the side

>>175969931
How so?
Also :
If we're talking about LEVEL DESIGN, the post-lordvessel areas still hold up quite well. New Londo Ruins is a great area and contributes to the interconnected nature of the game, Duke's Archive is fairly solid as well and creative with the spinning staircases. Tomb of the Giants is kinda shite imo but it's no worse than Shrine of Storms gameplay wise.

Lost Izalith is pure garbage but even that places has some neat things like the elevator back to Daughter of Gay OS.

That said, the entirety of DS1 EXCEPT the DLC and the panted world is physically connected and laid down in a vertical manner which allows you to travel from the absolutely highest point of the game world to the lowest fairly quickly just by utilizing the physical connections.

>>175970460
that would be good, especially if you buff with phantasm shell

>>175970460
That's perfectly viable. I use a 10/50/18 Strength/Skill/Arc build and haven't found myself lacking in damage. I know one anon here who runs 10/50/30 and uses most hunter tools

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Can anyone give me a hand in this hell of an area?

Nightmare Frontier
First lamp
Pass: bbg

>>175970460
Sure if you have the points for it and don't mind going over 98. 50 Arc should be the minimum for Tools if you're going for damage. Then you'll need 50 Skill for Pick. All that's possible with 40 Vit without going 120+ if you don't mind having base End.

>>175970679
Wouldn't a 10/50/30 distribution also work well with weapons like the BoM and Burial Blade, since they have decent Arc scaling?

>>175970686
I dont think you can summon for the frontier

>>175970686
Ringing, might want to wait for another anon?

>>175970686
Ringing

>>175970825
Their scaling is meh and the base Arc damage is terrible. It's better ignoring it and focusing on Phys.

>>175951767
Dark beast Parrl please

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What the fuck was his problem?

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>>175970825
That's actually the weapons that Anon used. Saved his build because I may or may not steal it in the future. From their experience they said it performs as well as or slightly better than the regular full physical setups.

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>>175971237
You killed its surrogate child, and then you tried turning into a squid.

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>>175971237
Also, why does his head look like bloodcum?

>>175971442
It's actually more like the cross-section of an umbilical cord.

Anyone want to accompany me through Ailing Loran? Trying to blitz through chalices. If anyone's interested, pass is bbg

>red spiders

>>175971569
Still ringing?

>>175971569
I'll join

>>175970686
Whatever kind soul helped, thank you.

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>>175971442
>>175971237
What if MP is Yharnam's son

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>>175971970
I'd have to say no to that one. I can't really think of any way to connect it.

You guys know 120 is the pvp meta, right?

>>175972134
you know that 98 is better, right?

>>175972134
>he doesn't know

>>175972134
>reddit.com/r/bloodborne

>>175972175
If you only want quality builds maybe

>>175972134
Nah bro, I invented the level 98 meta for a reason.

>>175969937
>>175969738
How the fuck do I that jump

>>175972134
My only 120 character is my Arcane build so I could get 85 ARC. One everything else I go 75, because it genuinely feels like the point where the build completes.

I really like pure builds though.

>>175972489
Jump attack.

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>luci trying to say he invented the 98 meta
pitiful, really

Don't reply to tripfags

>>175972291
What else would you want? It gets to a point where it's excessive, and our 98-117 allows for more of a variety than you think.

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>>175972489
Its the claw+beast transformation jump attack, so R2+forward.

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This is the future but it feels empty

>>175972134
No it isn't. The reason the "meta" is 120 is because people don't want to make sacrifices on their builds and want the game to be easier. People have never wanted to make sacrifices on their builds. At 120 in DeS, DaS, and DaS3 you can hit the stamina and health softcaps and still be able to max out your damage stat(s). DaS2 almost solved this but had to include Soul Memory which didn't work out how they intended. In BB there's the same problem where going to 120 ensures you're not making any sacrifices and effectively overpowering yourself for PvE and PvE just like in DeS/DaS/DaS3. Fortunately in BB END is a dump stat so there's no real need to go beyond 98. Hell, in DeS/DaS/DaS3 there's no need to go beyond 98 but people "need" their extra health and stamina because they can't handle not being overpowered.

tldr, 98 is best meta in all games (excluding DaS2) because it forces you to think about your build and make choices and sacrifices and it also avoids the 120 "meta."

>>175972697
take a look at this garbage mate, we're only a month away from complete pvp meltdown
>>175963250

>>175972697
Tell me
Does
Guidance 3
Exist

>second R2 on the church pick always hit while enemy is still on the ground

What's the fucking point, even if I delay it as much as I can I still hit during their iframes.

Also I hate that you can't riposte enemies when they are on higher ground FFS from this bug has been a thing since the first game just get your shit together.

Natalya, Segalt, thank you! Sorry about the side areas, but I gotta get dose ritual bloods.

If you're up for more, I'm at layer 2!

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>>175972783
Yeah, hackers ruin everything. I'm sad.

>>175972927
I'm ringing now

>>175972783
>>175972931
I heard if you just block them in the PS4/3 players list you literally can't get matched with them ever again, so just try that.

>>175972881
Nothing else has been found yet, no unused armor pieces, weapons or runes

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>>175963250
Wait you can put gems on guns?!

>>175972881
There's no datamining yet,
From Leddit:
>I am personally against sharing any info on how to PS4 savefile edit, who wants to learn it, can. This is not exactly datamining its not the same as it was with DeS. This is merely tweaking some numbers in the savefile not the game. We will have to wait for proper datamining. :)

>>175973086
You can on some but the cannon isn't one of them.

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>>175972543
I only claim to have invented the 98 meta because I did. You can throw as many tantrums as you want, but it won't change the truth.

>>175972783
At least there tend to be less hackers on console because console bans are way more expensive than getting a family shared game account on steam. I figure there will be a big influx of cheaters for a while, followed by a ban wave, and finally a return to (mostly) normal.

What the fuck is up with me it's the sixth time I died on a roll to fucking watchers.

That annoying fucker with the cleave keeps getting me.

>>175972697
How does one obtain this in a legit way? Did anyone ever manage?

>>175973216
fuck that garbage, I have the hack and i'll gladly tell everyone here, it's named savewizard, it costs 50 fucking dollars, and they've implemented some kind of retarded anti priacy shit into it so I have to wait 30 days until I can remove my psn from the thing and upload it to the rest of you guys.

>>175973216
:) :) :)

I hope Reddit dies

>>175973391
any juicy stuff in there?

>>175973501
Literally only a hex editor with a infinite health hack, nothing of value found yet but i'll keep you guys updated.

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>>175973335
You don't. It isn't found ingame.

>>175972543
Don't forget that this is the guy that "discovered the Claymore." His rampant faggotry knows no bounds. Your best bet is to just filter him and carry on with your day.

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>>175973250
IT KEEPS HAPPENING

>>175973642
I think the only reason he got the Platinum was so that we would stop mocking him. He'll claim it was for the theme, but I'm willing to say he wouldn't have gotten it if we didn't find out.

Forgot to mention, theres a thing called Echos Memory which is exactly what you think it is, Souls memory but it serves no purpose other than keeping track of the amount of echoes you've collected, most likely a hack prevention thing.

>>175973763
Don't dash into them when you are that close, and if you do, take a step back before trying for the visceral.

>>175973642
I invented the 98 meta. I popularized the claymore. Different words have different meanings for a reason, kiddo.

>>175973776
Except I got the plat right after they announced the theme, and I had already beaten the game in by the time that screenshot was taken.

>>175973763
AGAIN

Jesus how does riposting works in this game. Do I have to stand still and press R1? Or forward R1? or just mash it? There was something like this in Dark Souls 2 I remember.

>>175973763
Wait a bit more and then go to him.

>>175974147
Get in front of them or a little to the side and prees R1.

>>175973776
the funny thing is he still has 50% on dark souls 1
exposing his autism makes him so mad and its hilarious

>>175974343
That what's I did there >>175973763 but I just flew through him.

I guess today is just not my day, I usually can do watchers consistently but I'm dying non stop. Maybe not every day is a good day to hunt.

>>175974479
For how much of a sacred cow that game is for him, you'd think he'd go for it.

I wish to know the name of the men responsible for fat rollers

>>175974147
Just walk up to them and tap R1. The problem with what you saw in that image was that he dashed into the enemy while they were falling and the they clipped through one another.

>>175974479
>>175974607
You know I 100%ed DaS1 on 360, right? My Ps3 DaS1 save is exactly 1 character, and it is just an exact copy of my 360 PvP character.

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Anyone have stats-sliders-suggestions for a level 100 Ludwig cosplay build? I've no idea how to do a HMS build, let alone a proper PVP build at level 100.

I was thinking of basing the look off pic related but I can't make the sliders work.

>>175974694
Merciless Rollers are the absolute miracle of the universe. Mildly threatening, but not annoying like lanters, with a sick moveset and astounding visual design.

>>175974847
Lmao dude. I'm new here and your need to validate yourself and make sure you get the last word on is hilarious

>>175974008
Thank God, it doesn't have any purpose.

>>175974950
With the HMS, you'll probably want to try the 25/50 Str/Arc build for it. Ludwig's Rifle, while not an ideal gun, would be necessary to fit the cosplay. Other weapons would probably be the LHB, as the name suggests, and generally any Church weapon.
Fashion, I'd recommend straight White Church without the Hood.
>>175975176
First thing to remember is to never reply to him. Just let him talk to himself.

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>>175975080

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>>175974950
Moonlight sword for your weapon, of course. Church attire for fashion. Pic related is what I suggest for stats.

>>175974950
Cruel Fate: 40+/12+/25/12+/5/50. Maybe points in Blt for Ludwig's Rifle.

https://imgur.com/gallery/TUOlw
These sliders seem good enough, just tweak some stuff and it'll probably fit the bill.

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Okay the curse is broken. I'm back to killing watchers normally. What a relief, it was getting pathetic.

>>175975264
I'm pretty sure hmls is better with 50/25 str/arc

>>175975339
I've been there, it sucks.

>>175975252
There is no way these things weren't a commentary on the meta from the Souls Games.

>>175975176
>I'm new here
Liar.

>your need to validate yourself and make sure you get the last word on is hilarious
I have never been shy about liking to argue.

>>175975250
The irony.

>>175975359
Depends on the form you're using. The tricked form is far better with the 25/50 Str/Arc split.

>>175974950
>>175975250
For fashion executioner garb with white hood (or helmetless) is what Ludwig wears in is beastly form.

>>175951767

I don't get home for another 4 fucking hours. Will it be too late then? Just want some OC of my hunter...

>>175975417
>>175975264
>>175975250
What about something like 40/35 STR-ARC split, or is that inefficient?

I'm thinking of using the Amygdalan Arm or the Tonitrus as my second weapon (I'd use Church Pick if it weren't primarily a skill weapon).

>>175975697
If you're doing a Ludwig cosplay then your only weapon choices are Moonlight and the Holy Blade. The Holy Blade can be modified a bunch with gems that'll make it much better on an ARC build.

Thank you very much for helping Natalya, Segalt, the only thing I hate more than red spiders is Cursed Pthumerian Defilement

If anyone wants to come along to Pthumeru's greatest shitshow, I'll be ringing on Layer 1, no side areas, just blasting through

>>175975697
25 and 50 are the softcaps, so 25/50 or 50/25 would be better. Amy Arm is better with 50 Strength, Toni most likely will be better with 50 Arc. If you went 50 Arc you could just get 14 Skl and convert the Pick, or get 50 Strength and use it with a Heavy. It's be better with 50/25 Str/Skl with a Heavy though.

>>175975697
It's better having the primary stat at 50 and the secondary at 25, other combination seems more inefficient, no matter what gem setup are you using.

>>175975881

I'm not thinking of using the Holy Blade, I don't like weapons that split onto your back (Whirligig Saw being an exception but I don't use it untransformed), hence why I thought of using a Repeating Pistol as opposed to Ludwig's Rifle, since it's practically a miniature version.

Maybe I'll just go with a Ludwig imitator character as opposed to a full-on cosplay.

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>>175971237
You mean her problem?

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>>175974950
If you make a Ludwig character, make it like pic.

>>175976348
thisismyfetish.png

>>175976131
A Ludwig imitator could be a good idea, something like "Ludwig's Heir." The LHB would probably still be the best choice just for the integrity of the cosplay.

>keeper

I will always be shit at this fucker, sorry Segalt, ringing again if you're up for it

>>175976131
Make his evil brother
Franz Georg

>>175976348
Could we pair Gehrman with this somehow?

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>>175975339
But I did a webm just for you.

>>175973219
Actually Original started the 98 meta. Nice try fag.

>>175976582
>Session Lost
That was strange. Ringing again, m8.

Reminder not to reply to samefags

https://mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne/23807

How is this looking?
Seems fun to me

>>175976348
My dick

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>>175976713
Thank you anyway. I'm managing to do it every single time now, it was like a curse, really, I died over 10 times in a row for them and then finally managed. Now I just killed them for the 12th time without missing a single riposte.

I have no idea.

>>175974139
>I popularized the claymore

I'll bite, what do you mean?

>>175976905
Looks fun to me.

>>175976813
You were totally invisible for about 30 seconds when you summoned in, something went funky

Ringing now, just gemming up my pizza problem solver

>>175976905
Looks fun, that Bloodletter should hit like a truck.

Good god this general has gone backwards in terms of replying to tripfags. It was going so well...
I know most of the replies are him samefagging (check the post timers) but still some are legit replies. This is sad.

Reminder not to reply to obvious bait

>>175977242
People have always replied to it, people always will. There was a time it was just never here, for good two months or so. But what's even better than not replying, is not posting about it at all and denying its existence.

>>175977408
>He actually thinks its bait

>>175977242
I'm sorry, anon. I know he's annoying as fuck, but I'm legitimately interested in his retarded opinion. You can always just ignore him.

>>175977476
I-is he okay?

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HMPH
M
P
H

Give me at least 5 ideas for new weapons for BBII. Need to at least describe tricked and untricked.

>>175977653
Good fucking lord!

>>175977045
Just what is sounds like. When DaS1 released people were all about the lightning Zwei. I proselytized the claymore as a superior alternative, explained all the reasons it was better, and just rekt shit with it, including stream sniping. After awhile people started to pay attention, and the claymore started to become extremely popular.

>>175977468
It only came back after a faggot mentioned it's name out of nowhere, some anons even said to delet the post. Whoever that beastly idiot is, fuck you.

>>175977468
On the plus side, Meme Machine actually adds some quality to counter Luci ehich triggered Luci so much that he filtered Machine. Kinda cute really.

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>>175977653
Post glyph

Sorry about that Segalt, something fucky's up with my Internet, ringing again

rushing for the church pick, ringing for amelia and then ludwig
pass is bbg

>>175977868
>Lucy got so cucked that he had to filter him to stop himself from getting so upset
Wew.

So all the good gems are from Chalice Dungeon bosses? After like 4 playthroughs I've never fucked with Chalices but I supposed I'll have to start, I'd like to do some PvP now.

>>175977692
AXE THAT IS ALSO AN AXE

untricked form is an axehead you swing around like a heavy version of the saw cleaver

In tricked form you snap the axehead onto a pole and it becomes a greataxe type weapon, none of this halberd bullshit.

>>175977868
Luci actually filtered him? Top kek.
>inb4 some gay ass damage control responce from him.

>>175978150
Lamp or fog?

>>175978209
http://i.imgur.com/KgVUkyd.jpg
Once you did all of this, you can finally start.

pwmf22gu for radials +27% damage or +32% blunt/thrust
5pwujscd for triangles +27% damage or +32% blunt/thrust
ksgqnycq for heavy abyssal, +65 STR scaling +15 Phys, Layer 3. Savescum just before the fog and announce here you'll do it, people will gladly join you making it way less painful.

That's for STR/SKL builds.

>>175978497
fog

>>175977983
6k5siq9u, 2nd layer main room

>>175978539
Thanks anon, the OP info was rather overwhelming.

>>175978612
Boardwalk burgers? More like bored burgers.

>>175975080
theyre not fun at FRC depth 5 on a narrow staircase being supported by a a witch that spams fireballs. I created one of the worst FRC dungeons since there is literally no incentive to risk yourself since there are no bonus rooms and all the enemies are annoying as fuck with their placement

>>175977476
For the "Younger" twin, he's quite old.
>>175977692
Hunter's Shotel: Untricked form is a standard shotel, small curved sword with speed and a short range, scaling with Skl. Tricked, the blade is straightened with blood, becoming a falchion, being slower with longer reach. Scales with both Skl and Blt.
Three-Pounder: Gun that fires one shot per L2, or three shots at once with a held L2. Not intended for parries.
Fulmen: Same principle as the Flamesprayer, just with Bolt.
Church Twinswords: Large sword in untricked form dealing righteous, splits into two swords of half size in tricked dealing serrated. The swords themselves interlock into the larger one, essentially a slower, more powerful Rakuyo that scales with Str.
Gage's Hammer: Slow hammer in untricked form hitting hard, splits into a small parrying shield and club in tricked form. Shield isn't used as a shield, more for bashing, like those Pthumerian Warriors with the shield.
The Shotel, Three-Pounder, and Fulmen were ideas I've had in the past, the others were more or less pulled out of the air. I like the Church Twinswords, now that I look at it again.

>>175978414
Church weapon? Powderkeg? Workshop? Cuckhurst?

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>>175978786
Here, have the colored version.

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>>175978790
he kinda looks like clint eastwood

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>>175978923
I kind of just pulled that out of my ass but a workshop weapon I think would be most fitting