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Report and ignore it.

How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This day in history, April 30th:
1598 – Henry IV of France issues the Edict of Nantes, allowing freedom of religion to the Huguenots.
1636 – Eighty Years' War: Dutch Republic forces recapture a strategically important fort from Spain after a nine-month siege.
1789 – On the balcony of Federal Hall on Wall Street in New York City, George Washington takes the oath of office to become the first elected President of the United States.
1803 – Louisiana Purchase: The United States purchases the Louisiana Territory from France for $15 million, more than doubling the size of the young nation.
1812 – The Territory of Orleans becomes the 18th U.S. state under the name Louisiana.
1904 – The Louisiana Purchase Exposition World's Fair opens in St. Louis, Missouri.

>News
EU4 Mandate of Heaven is out.

>Random Country Picker
http://randomcountry.gbasood.net/

# Archive (mods only)
https://mega.nz/#F!plMxFYTB!sn9MTrvJ0tYjWSHgM8CZow

#Where to get these games
http://hastebin.com/raw/moqugasume

# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
http://pastebin.com/cCdcev76

>>[HoI4] - More Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#F!v5wXURpJ!TvoBinBVQWJbaYJsluyoFA

>>[HoI3] - Flavormod
https://mega.nz/#F!GBByDSgS!9ia87JfAeOQgADjGq9y4hw

>>[CK2] - Anon Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#!vIQnEZJK!5YCtpPMElgZJ3DDaVSaxJqEGym87SKZxfx-uKVwZmqM

>>[CK2] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc

>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.6.1 - 27/11/2016
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk

>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.7
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr

>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V10
http://pastebin.com/PRQH8vcV

>>[V2]Africa Mod
http://pastebin.com/kyMpRZcQ

Old Thread >>174855274
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Like the other poor devils in China, India and Japan, a great new field for sweatshops to be opened up, so that these new industries which we are creating in Britain today will be destroyed as the old industries were, simplified, rationalised machinery, with a few white surveyors, and then the masses of cheap, coloured labour, torn off the land and taken into the sweatshops to work and labour, and cough their guts out with tuberculosis until they too are thrown on the scrapheap of the sweatshops. Is that worthy of Britain? Is that to be the future of Europe? And is this competition to be organised within our European brotherhood? Bringing in these sweat-fields in Africa into our Europe civilisation, so that the financial power in one European country can use it against the financial power in another? Or the great financial central power of the world, now shifted from the City of London to Wall Street, New York? Shall be able on the mass of money, of wealth and of power which it brings to it? Again and again to exert it's influence in politics? Until that you see the day, it is childish nonsense to say that a British government rules Britain! Its nothing to do with British government or the British people! The government of the world is the financial government! The power of money, and of money alone!
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Croatian fascists have awoken.
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>a thread without aranaye
Praise Jesus.
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British fascists have awoken.
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January 28th is a monumental day for the world.
In the Wiemar Republic the NSDAP held it's first large rally in Munich, the Kingdom of Austria renewed its assault against the Kingdom of Hungary, Italy landed troops in Libya, and taxation was officially declared theft in the United States of America.
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How do you play the god forsaken countries in the Caucausus (Circassia, Georgia, etc)?
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Benis

In

Bagina
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>>175431303
Get powerful allies and also save and reload a lot
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Ba'athists have awoken.
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>>175431390
Save and reloading is a bitch since they made EU4 restart every time you quit.
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>>175431261
>>175430919
Hunnic fascists have awoken
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>>175431527
>hoi4
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>>175431527
>the moon is next because they're hungary for more
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Hmm...
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r8 my initial expansion as Muscovy on memes of darkness, PDM is weird af.
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>>175431690
Holy fucking shit that is a lot of words.
>>175431757
You can do better.
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>>175431690
what a useless tl;dr, why even have it
I'm not reading that shit
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>>175431757
Simply great.
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>>175431757
forgot pic
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>>175431903
Small!
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>>175431690
So the guy's abandoning it. is he a big part of M&T?
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Uh oh
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Kinna borders you want pham?
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>>175432435
>arabia
>1852
HMM
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>>175432435
I've seen worse
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When news that Josef Stalin assumed the role of Chairman of the USSR, Nationalist Poles violently assumed the apparatus of state and arrested the Communist collaborators.

Word has reached Washington that that absolute madmen have plans to restore the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.
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>>175432435
This is what you get for playing an abandoned meme mod.
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>ai walks right through a fort to stackwipe my retreating army
Fuck this game
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>>175432857
>Nationalist Poles violently assumed the apparatus of state and arrested the Communist collaborators.
Are Poles /our guys/?
why the fuck are you not sending expeditionary forces ti help you commie fuck
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>>175432528
Playing as Nejd.
Ottomans, for some reason, got into a war with Russia early on. I grabbed Hedjaz while they were distracted and then formed Arabia. Later Ottomans go to war with Egypt, leaving them crippled. So I ally with Ethiopia and annex Egypt, putting me in this situation.

There's some really wierd shit going on in this game. There's this big conflict in SA with France, Netherlands, Papal States, and Brazil.

>>175432930
It's vanilla, my man
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Amerikkka
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kill the bats...
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April 5th: The day of backstabs.

Austria-Hungary has backstabbed Czechoslovakia and in response the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats, and Slovenes has backstabed Austria-Hungary in support of the Czecho-Slovaks. Using this as an opportunity the Italians have backstabbed the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats, and Slovenes to steal the Adriatic Coast.

Stalin, seeing all this backstabbing going on, decided he cannot be outdone and has violated the peace treaty with Poland and invaded them. The perfidious Kraut, as he is wont to do, has backstabbed the Poles and annexed the Danzig Corridor and border provinces.

I don't know who's Jewing who anymore.
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>>175433763
>I don't know who's Jewing who
>>>/pol/
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>>175433819
>mfw this guy gets more (You)'s
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Should I puppet Turkey or just sphere them?
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>>175433763
>all this happens dynamically
>borders look good
Is DH based?
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>>175433763
Cannot wait for France to Backstab German and England to backstab France.
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Unfortunately Maurras didn't win in France.
The Orleans Revival looks unlikely

>>175434035
It's a mod by a crazy Vatnik modder. The Russians are extremely overpowered and the event chains are batshit insane.

>>175433819
It's a joke, not a dick. Don't take it so hard :^)
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>>175434169
>It's a joke, not a dick. Don't take it so hard :^)
>implying im not a /pol/ack doing counter signal false flag 6,000,000D intergalactic backgammon
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>>175434169
>Italian being competent.
Impossibiru.
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>>175434169
The Romanians have got in on the fun now
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>>175434325
What fresh hell is this
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>>175434325
https://youtu.be/qn3aPweeZVQ
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>>175434325
LAD liberate a greater sedular gross arabiums republicums.
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Gib me da good Russian colony names
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>>175434703
Alaska
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>>175434703
>russian
Why?
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Did you know that [/spoiler]/gsg/ is moderated by the Paradox Forums team?[/spoiler]
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>>175434889
Because that's what my culture is.
Gotta love CK2 amirite
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKJur8wpfYM
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>>175434974
I walked straight into your trap..
>the culture of the king was the culture of the nation
Fuck you, Paradox.
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>>175434994
I guess Astro-Hungary is back in black.
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>>175434994
Romania didn't war so good. Who wants to try next?
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>>175434994
Wait, why are spain and sqitzerland the same color?
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ALRIGHT BOYS
IT'S ELECTION TIME AND IT TURNS OUT I FUCKED UP LAST ELECTION - THE SOCIALIST OPTION WAS THERE BUT BLACKED OUT


WHO WILL WIN?
WILL IT BE INCUMBANT PRESIDENT "SUCK MY" COX AND VPOTUS FRANKLIN "D'EEZ LEGS DONT WORK" ROOSEVELT OF THE DEMOCRATS?

Or will it be
CALVIN COOLIDGE AND HIS BUDDY CHARLES "LITERALLY WHO" DAWES OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY?

Or finally will it be the
FILTHY
DISGUSTING
UNWASHED
GODLESS
WILLIAM "TRUE COMMUNISM HAS NEVER BEEN TRIED" FOSTER AND BENJAMIN "I ACTUALLY BECOME A HUGE CONSERVATIVE AND LEADING ANTI-COMMUNIST LATER IN LIFE" GITLOW OF THE COMMUNIST PARTY OF AMERICA

>>175435351
Just the way it is.
Spain has two separate tags. Democratic Spain is that colour while Franco's Spain is an Orange-Yellow.
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>>175435602
WHO THE FUCK NEEDS LEGS? DEMS ALL THE FUCKING WAY
FDR4LIFE
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>>175435602
I'm rooting for the commies just because true communism has never been tried and I think the americans are the perfect people to experiment it on, with all their qualities like individualism/individual thought, free thinking, then very religious, that are raised with entrepenouship in mind and are taught to compete since childhood; I mean, what could possibly go wrong?
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>>175435703
Now let me be clear I'm not a Gommie but would it change your mind if I told you that voting in the Communists will let you put Huey Long in charge in 1928?
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>>175435910
>Huey Long
On a scale of Blair to based Mosley how ebin is he?
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You have been visited by Rastafari, the son of almighty Jah and emperor of Ethiopia

Jah's blessings, Pan-Africanism, and Ethiopian qt gf will be yours if you comment "I'M GONNA PUT ON AN IRON SHIRT, AND CHASE THE FASCISTS OUT OF EARTH"
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>>175436062
Governor of Louisiana, had a programme called "Share Our Wealth"/ "Every Man a King" that called for net asset tax. He opposed the Federal Reserve and the madman was planning to run in the '36 election with Father Charles "The Jews and Irish Did This" Coughlin. Take from that what you will

There's also an option to elect a guy who looks like a Left-Wing Enoch Powell
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>>175436329
I'm worried I'm going to become a communist. I'm s-still fascist if I hate niggers, r-right?
https://youtu.be/ZuqdqJph8PU
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>>175436460
No, you're a traitor.

But I need a tie breaking vote, god damnit.
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>>175436538
Republican.
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>>175436538
Com 4 yank mosley
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>>175433989
Please respond.
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>>175436606
>>175436632
Fuck, I guess that's:
>1 Dem
>1 GOP
>2 CPC

Prepare for Islamic Gommunism.
Freedom has died this day

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZmxZThb084
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>>175436801
Just build industry in all the unstable minor nations, when they nationalize you can go to war to puppet them.
t. hillary
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>>175436879
>national dissent is changed by 35%

Jebus
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>>175436879
I change my vote of Republican to Democrat and then vote again Democrat as a good Chicagoan.
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>>175436879
you sound like a fucking NEO-CON GLOBALIST
>not fighting against the mainstreammedia
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>>175436907
The thing is, we are in war right now. Turkey attacking one of my sphereling and I'm fucking them for being cunt with my sphereling.
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>>175437037
Huh. Well then ouppet if you've got the infamy.
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>People's Army
>General Pershing forced into retirement
WE'VE MADE A TERRIBLE MISTAKE
STOP THE RIDE I WANT OFF
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>>175437149
Ok, thanks.
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>>175437203
GO BACK I CHANGE TO DEMOCRAT GO BACK

FUCK GOMMIES
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>>175437203
THEY SAID WE'D GET YANK MOSLEY
#fakenews
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We've scoured the entire United States and only one man was fit to lead the People's [/spoiler ]United States Navy.

>Defensive Warfare
>Implying Americans hide behind walls instead of winning
Oliver Law is the only choice

>>175437313
We get Yank Mosley and Yank Hitler in four years.
His cabinet is made up of Henry Ford and Prescott Bush
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>>175437405
having spoiler tags on /vg/ was a mistake
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>AppchanX inserted a random space in the spoiler tag

Appchan dev I know you search that archives God damnit you made me look like an idiot. I demand satisfaction.
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>>175437498
>not ctrl + s masterrace
NEOCON GLOBO SHILL
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>>175437629
I did, it still slapped that space in there
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>>175437768
Sad!
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Jorund tastes the bleach
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The previous government had declared that taxation was theft. The new FILTHY GOMMIE ""government"" has now decided to review taxes.

Do they still practice the Libertarians wet dream or do we bleed 'em dry?
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>>175438059
we need roads tbvqh lad
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>>175438059
Tax them hard.
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>>175438059
STOP THIS ABOMINATION FUCK COMMIES
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WITNESS THE INDUSTRIAL MIGHT OF THE HUMBLE PROLETARIAT

THIS IS IT
THIS IS WHAT WE VOTED FOR

>"IS THIS FULL COMMUNISM?" ASK THE MASSES
NO
IT'S GOING TO GET A LOT WORSE THAN THIS
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BWAAHAHA I GOT IT FUCK YOU WILLY POSTER
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>>175438376
Cancel the trade agreements with noncoms. AUTARKY NOW
if you start having no resources then its realistic
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How do I get rid of this shit? Been searching for an artifact for over a decade now, its clear event chain bugged or something, how do I get rid of this modifier?
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>>175438460
Got what?
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>>175438579
Kill yourself.
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>>175438579
The events for that chain aren't bugged, the MTTH is just enormous.
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>>175438579
Pretty sure you have to edit the save file, if the councillor dies while searching it can bug.
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It feels wrong to celebrate this year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNqswVCo1wM
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>>175438862
>implying I have the knowledge to do this without shitting up my save

I'm not a code monkey lad, is there a way to trigger finding the artifact so I can get that modifier removed?
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>>175439019
Italy vs Austria-Hungary when?
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>>175439019
This would make a really good Commie US anthem.
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>>175439019
>We will always fights for freedom
Typo aside, this is beyond irony and you should start over.
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>>175439119
>>175439019
Also, what kind of IC do all the big European players have?
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>>175439179
>>175438215
Calm down, Rothbard. You can keep your child slaves in your fantasy land.
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>>175439287
You mean reality? ;^)
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>>175439214
My internet just died, phone posting.
If I had to ballpark it I'd say Austria-Hungary would have around 100 naturally and my difficulty setting + mod difficulty will give them a total of around 145. Russia should be up around the 250 mark, France will be lower at 85, UK is a mixed bag because they don't have India direct but I'd guess anywhere from 60 to 200. Germany as it currently is (Wiemar) if it's partisan rating was low (it isn't) would be around 200
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>>175439337
Whatever you want, pal.
*calls tax paid police to deal with you against your finsent*
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>>175439485
Consent, jesus christ, how did I type finsent.
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>>175439485
Oh no, not without my finsent?

WHAT
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>>175438579
As the other guy said, the MTTH is just fucking enormous, i've had it take almost 50 years.
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>>175439019
Internet is dead and I have to wageslave tomorrow so I'm stopping here tonight.

NEXT TIME ON "AMERICA V. COMMIEE":
>No, America, you ARE the Commies
>Hindenburgs revenge
>Huey Long channels the spirit of Robert E. Lee, defeats the Commies
>The Silver Legion and the Deutsche-Amerika Bund make a guest appearance
>Possible guest appearance of Sir Oswald Mosley
>Johnny Carson interviews Don Rickles, talks politics with Reagan, and meets a collector of oddly shaped potato chips
Tune in, 8:30PM PST
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>>175439838
>PST
What's that in Anglo?
gud look at job hope you get promoted
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>>175439974
Pacific Standard Time is -8 UTC
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>>175440072
1 bloody bong? Mang I won't even be up then.
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>>175439838
Can you intervene in foreign wars? You need to spread fascism.
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>R&I gone
>greatest thread in months
What does it mean, lads?
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I'm thinking of writing a mini-mod event in EU4 to let New World countries with African holdings establish a Liberia-style client state.

Just having difficulty thinking of the exact requirements, since it's unlikely a New World country would hold slave-producing provinces in the first place, and thus would be unlikely to abolish slavery.

So I guess the most sensible requirement would be for the Abolitionism global price event to have fired, for the nation to have taken Plutocratic or Innovative ideas and for the country in question to have no slave-producing provinces.
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>>175440297
means gsg is dead
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>>175440217
It depends on how it all plays out.
I can enable Everyone Can Declare War, or if I'm left/right wing radical I can declare whenever I want.

>>175439974
It's 11:54PM PST right now. Why are you up at 4 Bongs?
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HOLY FUCKING YUM
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Do we do it lads?
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>>175441024
do it pussy
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>>175441062
The Despotcuck couldn't handle the banter. Gonna get him excommunicated.
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>>175441129
>Ordering your Emperor out of your feast
Blind and castrate him
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>>175431690
how will eu4fags ever recover
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Why does he wear the mask?

Also why fucking Denmark?
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>>175441560
based tallfag, post holding stats and realm info
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>>175441560
>playing with si on
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>>175441728

>>175441793
I was hoping for a challenge for my God-Emperor. Unfortunately, I can't join the pact against them because 'they're not close enough'. I really want to force them to fuck off from Western Europe, I'll try allying with one of the powers opposing them.
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>>175442000
>still only 9/17
Why aren't you getting more holdings?
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>>175441793
>playing with SI off
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>>175442049
Can't build any more baronies as of right now for some odd reason. Might be a HIP limit thing?
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>>175442123
Why, what does it say when you hover over the empty holding slot?
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Where can I download the 2.7.1 patch?
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>cant help in your vassals wars
>have to sit there like an idiot and watch them fuck up holy war after holy war reducing your moral authority to nothing because they're too fucking stupid to realize 500 men are going to lose to 5000 every time
>currently at -66% due to lost holy wars
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>>175442149
It doesn't show an empty holding slot at all.
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>>175442223
That's because there are no empty holding slots left, not all provinces have 7 holding slots. Unless HIP has disabled it, you want to raise the prosperity and move the provincial focus to a province with tier 3 prosperity and cross your fingers for an event that gives you an extra holding slot for a large sum of gold, like 4x your yearly income.
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>>175442338
I'll assign some Councillors then. Also how does Crown Focus work? Can't seem to find how to use it.
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Are there any mods that make CK2 map less shit looking?
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>>175442634
It's to the right of the move capital button, unless HIP has disabled it.

>>175442732
Flattening it helps loads
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What should my second idea group be as Manchu? I'm thinking a military idea or Humanist.
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k lads
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>>175442783
It seems I didn't pirate Reaper's Due DLC, only the Content Pack. I'm fucked, aren't I?
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>>175443253
yes, prosperity mechanics are exclusive to RD
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>>175443425
So what now? Go slightly wide as far as my personal demesne can be?
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>>175443487
That's the only way, I suppose. Go for all of Greece or something like that.
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>>175443004
Go naval for hard mode.
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So I came up with another fun idea for a 'fuck you, Ming' game. How long does it take for the event to fire?
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>>175444550
should be faily quick, but do you have 300 development? I think not
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>>175443707
These guys are making it too easy. Direct ownership of all counties right? Cause that's what I did. Also what now, Vlachia (Grey) or Aegan Sea (darker blurple)? In terms of borders, province size they're about the same.
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>>175444632
Did you forget how big the Timurids are or something?
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>>175444550
It takes forever if you're not at war. If you're at war and have 25% war score, the progress triples. Go siege down Beijing and wait.
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>>175444773
That's easier said than done. Timurids start out #2 GP, so Ming won't mess with me. I'll just chill and try and work on my religious demographic issues while I wait.
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Soviets are about to throw in the towel. What should I grab besides Bessarabia?
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>>175444397
For reals though. On one end I'm struggling super hard with unrest, on the other end I'm worried my nomad troops are going to fall behind Ming even with 0 Mandate before I'm ready to form Qing.
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>>175445475
Crimea?
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Why is EU4 not considered GSG? Just wondering
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>>175445773
Because its closer to a 4x or a boardgame
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>>175445670
Can't grab Crimea by wargoal in HoI3. This was the only thing I could do without grabbing all of Westen Russia I guess. Will give Turkey to Italy for GrobRomaniums. Hungary is ugly now though. I do want Crimea but not sure how to make it look decent and be somewhat plausible.
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>>175445848
It's literally based on a boardgame.
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>>175446173
Ahh, didn't know. Haven't played HoI games. Apart from4 before realizing it's garbage.
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>>175437405
>spoilers within spoilers
wow, very advanced
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When is the goodtime to start ivnesting in development? It always seems to me like saving points when something comes up or for research is better. Also is institution spread based my development? Like if I play Japan and spend entire game developing, every institution will arrive in my country?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7fB06S8Bq8
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>>175446173
>giving Italy all the oil
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>>175446559
At least post a good Jewish song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rPLxDQuCHk
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>>175446559
>>175447001
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9m5e-oPl5I
Step it up goyims
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>>175446879
It looks nice, yeah they're useless but Germany is already getting all the oil from me so it's fine.
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>>175447096
>goyims
the plural is goyim
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You guys ever pick a random Muslim heresy and build your own comfy caliphates?
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>>175447648
I've played as a Suni a number of times, yeah
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>>175447648
>be halfdan whitshirt
>conquer england
>become kharijite
>become brittanian kharijite caliphate
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>>175447648
>>175447859
I've made Dyre the Stranger the Grandmaster of the Hashashins in a Venetian Merchant Republic, done Kharjite Merchant republics, Ibadi Merchant Republic based out of Gotland.

Yazidi is fun, too. Unfortunately you need Mosul to become Sheikh.
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>>175447096
it must be suffering if you have to study like that.
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Is North Korea mode still feasible in CK2?
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>>175448769
no, playing tall is the new meme if you want to avoid the hassle of dealing with vassals
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>>175448958
Isn't that just North Korea mode but limited to the size of your demesne?
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>>175449087
I think it's NK but allowing for baronies, so you keep counties only.
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That was unexpected.
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>>175449087
Not entirely, NK mode was still blobbing and just ignoring the demense limit while extorting your vassals through banishments (since you had virtually no income) while tall players want to improve the infrastructure as much as they can, so harassing your vassals is counterproductive
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You don't play "tall" in CK2. You can get all the bonuses from playing what you are all referring to as tall, while still having other vassals.
Really it is just how you should be playing the game.
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ruh roh
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>>175449220
The difference is not having to deal with vassals and what you spend your focus and resources on. No one's disputing that blobbing isn't the strongest method of playing, the point is that you can stay small and still be reasonably powerful.
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>>175449220
Just make a comfy Merchant Republic, build a doomstack of Retinues and hire all the mercs so no one else can.
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>>175430403
Just got No Pirates in my Caribbean.

Thinking that next, I should transfer my provinces to the Antilles before I get enough to have a Florida colonial nation as well, then release and play as Antilles to get Turn the Table as well.

After that, I'm thinking of colonising the US eastern seaboard, Central America, and conquering the shit out of Mexico.
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>>175450634
post europe
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>>175450790
Nothing particularly unusual about it, I don't think.
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>>175451184
whats ur end game
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>>175451184
Well, aside from Poland and Lithuania never forming the Commonwealth and instead getting dismantled by their neighbours, I mean.

Reformation kicked off a couple decades later than usual, but seems to be otherwise within expectations. England's sticking to Catholicism, though (which is good for me, since it means they'll respect the Treaty of Tordesillas).
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>>175451284
Institutions aren't doing anything weird. Lucked out getting Colonialism in my own provinces, though.

>>175451259
I hadn't thought ahead that far. I started this run specifically to get the No Pirates in my Caribbean achievement.
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>>175448769

Tribes can NK for quite awhile after charlymeme start
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WE WUZ THANES N SHIEEEET
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>>175451390
Meanwhile, the English have colonised the Cape, while the Iberians have started staking their claims in South America. North America is untouched so far.
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>>175451563

Every time I play a republic, the african spouse event fires for my richest relative
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>>175451563
>Anglo-Norse
What meme is this
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>>175451563
You know what needs to be done
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>>175451783
What happens when smelly Vikings overstay their welcome in England.
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What's a normal amount of corruption to have?

It seems like I have crippled myself as Qing. Even though I have savescummed a lot.
Little income, way behind in tech, way behind in institutions, very high corruption, already 1625.

At least I've learned from this.

Ironman will be for next time.

Or should I keep on playing watching as my empire slowly crumbles.
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>>175451842
>Fucking up as Qing
I refuse to believe this. Ming/Qing is retardproof
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>>175451842
>Little income

You MUST take War Reparations in every single war against Ming. That gives you like a flat +8.0 income per month by itself. Even if you have to sacrifice taking raw ducats from them, always take war reps.
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>>175451930
Qing isn't quite retardproof now that Ming has literally no downsides aside from that one disaster.
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>>175451783
You can form it by conquering Anglos as the Norse in the TOG start in CK2+
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>>175451930
It's because my early run as Jianzhou/Manchu didn't go too well.
Also I started the save in the patch where the Manchus didn't have Feudalism from the beginning.

By the time I managed to perma cripple Ming I was already quite far behind with institutions and Admin/Diplo tech.

But it's ok, I had not played the game in a long time and all the DLC have added quite a lot of new content I didn't know about.
It's learning on the way.
I don't have much time played on EU4, HttT was just too fun for far too long.

I also didn't know that you can boost institutions by raising development, just went in blind.

>>175452195
I think my biggest problem was just spamming "debase currency", at some points I was expecting a phone call from Mugabe to tell me to stop it.
It also costs a lot to cure corruption.

Even when I fix the institutions I still have an almost 90% tech penalty to worry about.

I'll just start a new game on Ironman and improve on what I've learned.
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>>175431298
What mod?
>>
*drumpfs*
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What nation should I play in NWO lads, what should be the goals?
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>>175442182
>not having absolute crown authority
Vassals are nothing but glorified public servants
>>
HPM or vanilla lads?
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>>175454321
HPM
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>>175450634
Release them and form Haiti as a monarchy.

Become Western Tech KANGZ.

>Form Haitian Nation
>It is not enough to have expelled the barbarians who have bloodied our land. We must forever assure liberty in the country of our birth and take any hope of re-enslaving us away from the inhuman government that for so long kept us oppressed. In the end we must live independent or die.
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What?
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>>175454378
It's so railroaded though
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>>175454321
>Vanilla
>ever

any mod is better than vanilla

>>175454414
play vickymod then
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>>175454414
maybe eu4 might be more up your alley
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>>175454495
>you can only do the historical things xdd
Reddit plz
>>175454451
>mememod
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>>175454542
>>mememod
better than fucking vanilla
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>>175454414
Not more than NNM
It's actually less railroaded than NNM in a lot of things
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>>175454414
No it's way less railroaded than vanilla
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>>175454414
Then why even ask if you dislike it you retarded nigger
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>>175454697
>look at me I said nigger :D
>>/pol/
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>>175454697
Stop giving him (You)'s
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>stop giving him (You)s
>>>>/r/paradoxplaza
>>
;)
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r8 gross brazilliums.
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>>175455161
branco and based
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>>175455161
>eu4
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>>175455030
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>>175455161
weak and brown
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>>175455265
Yes La Plata contributed greatly to our whiteness

>>175455386
incorrect.
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>tfw no feminine qt bf to play gsg with
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>Paradox still didn't fix it.
Praise jesus.
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>>175455548
Perfect worlds don't exist anon
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>>175455778
>Zunist Mongol Empire in the 9th century

what the fuck am I looking at
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>>175455804
>>
In ck2 how do I keep power as a MR?
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>it's another heir has rivals episode

Why? What did they do to him?
Is it something trivial like: He ate my sandwhich or something big like: She killed my dog?

Fucking tell me how am I supposed to play as him if I don't even know?!?!?
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>>175455548
oh no
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>>175455960
Keep expanding your trade posts and mansion until you're rich enough to buy every election
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>>175456001
Usually its just one of those childhood events where children in the same court squabble for some petty shit
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>>175456051
is this a girl (male) if so sauce?
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>>175456153
use your imagination
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>>175456067
Thanks
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Is there any specific order I need to use to get CK2 to work correctly with the old archive DLC and HIP?
I do a fresh CK2 install on Steam, start it to make sure everything fires correctly, install my bought DLC and repeat, then use the archive DLC+activator and repeat. After I install HIP past all this, I always crash to desktop after making it through the loading screen.
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ROSSIYA STRONK
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>>175450634
I have a question.

If you're playing as a Colonial Nation, like Haiti or whatever, and you move your capital to the Old World, do your New World holdings become a colonial nation again?

That is, could you have a Haitian Caribbean, or an American Thirteen Colonies, or a Brazilian Brazil?
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>>175458103
>be Haiti
>move capital to Europe
>wait for 1700s to roll around
>become Revolutionary Haiti
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So, the Hvitserk line is gone and the heir of England was a French Widonid. Plus I have a claim on France.

I guess it's time to do what the Angevins did.
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Look at me. I'm the Aryan now.
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>>175458342
>not using SWMH
>>
What is the point of making garrisons in DH?
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>>175459065
AFAIK HIP doesn't have a converter that supports SWMH. I want to do a full CK2-Vic2 playthrough.
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>>175459212
They are cheaper, they have higher repression and do not move, so you can guard beaches or important places without being tempted to move them elsewhere.
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>>175459379
Do it manually
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>>175459007
Ashkenazi Indo-Aryans up in dis house
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>>175439019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-Nma1lY8nw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMDXl36gypw
IT'S A PARTY!
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>>175452901
I think you've learned by now and it's excuses because you went in blind.

But most of the time (99%), taking a loan is preferable over debasing your currency.
Unless you have very high autonomy.

But even then, corruption gives a bad tech penalty.
>>
Can I trigger the Brandenburg-Ansbach PU by having my ruler killed during war? Or is the event not going to trigger due to it happening in a war?
>>
Is it good idea to encourage clergy in colony?
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>>175460487
>>175452901
Also wtf, you got your corruption to 90.
Just restart.
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>>175452901
>Even when I fix the institutions I still have an almost 90% tech penalty to worry about.
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>>175460604
>encouraging anything other than bureaucrats
Yes
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>>175445773
it is considered a gs
>>175445848
>Because its closer to a 4x
no
>>
>>175460362
Comrade Jeb! Will lead the revolution
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>>175443004
You went exploration without getting a colony in the americas?

Go humanist so you can go yellow shamanism no syncretic tengri for 5 tolerance of heathens and 100% cav ratio
>>
>>175449220
The point of playing tall is basically to have Liqqy-tier experience. Basically just build up, defend yourself and play police when needed. Instead of watching pops grow though you're building up your provinces and most importantly, no unruly vassals and factions to deal with.
>>
Should I keep uesugi or Japan ideas once I have united? Both are good but Japan ideas seem to be slightly better
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>>175461446
based reddit bro
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>>175461446
It's as much of a GS as Stellaris is.
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>>175461446
>No
but it is
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>>175461756
anyone?
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>Liqqy 3 revealed at PDXCON
>turns out I was just dreaming
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>>175462272
It's better they don't it would just be dumbed down like hoi4
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>>175462015
no it's a 2-3x like other gs games
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>>175462261
Post the ideas
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>>175461756
Japan ideas are horrible compared to Uesugi ideas, you must be shit at determining which ideas are good.
>>
>Paradox will never make a good game again
JUST
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>>175462502
what's the difference between 1,2,3 and 4x then?
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>>175462668
>Paradox will never make a good game*
fixed
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It makes me happy, i un-fucked Bolivia
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Rate my Bolivia
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>>175463085
>what's liqqy 2
>what's hoi3
>>
>>175462598
+15% combat ability, settler increase and modernization seem really great though
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>>175463282
>liquor simulator
>good
>HOI3
>not a shit HOI2
>which itself is shit
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>>175463387
>liquor simulator
>he doesn't know about HPM which fixes the game
>hoi3
>shit
>>>/r/paradoxplaza
>>>/r/civ5
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>>175463451
>HPM
>good
>hoi3
>not shit
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>>175441793
what is SI
>>
>>175463628
Sunset Invasion
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>>175463569
Le Toucan has arrived.
>>
REDDIT'S RAIDING US LADS
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>>175441793
Alpha Meso-Americans got your beta Eurotrash ass down?
>>
>One contrarian faggot enters the thread
>General falls apart
/gsg/ classics
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>>175439838
what mod
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>>175463876
>whole general falls apart
>>
>>175463374
>modernization
5% tech cost
Uesugi has 10% idea cost
>infantry combat ability
Japan: 15% Infantry Combat Ability, 5% Discipline
Uesugi: 10% Infantry Combat Ability, 5% Discipline, 10% morale, 0.5 Yearly Army Tradition, -1% Yearly Army Tradition Decay
>>
Lads give me a very autistic liqqy 2 playthrough idea
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>>175430403
>>175463374
>>175462598
>>175461756
fucking newfags, shizmazu has the best ideas
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>>175464171
Conquer Australia as Paraguay
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>>175464227
>shizmazu has the best ideas
No they don't.
They're like 3rd
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>>175464251
I mean something like forming a GroSS nation with longterm goals
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>>175464273
I am retarded the post
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>>175460745
>>175460961
First time playing with corruption and not knowing what it does besides autonomy.
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>>175464368
>I am retarded
ok
>>
>>175464350
Krakow to GroS Poland-Lithuania
French England
>>
Planning a Sweden run for my next playthrough after I´m done with Livonian Order/Germany. What do I need to take to do better than Carolus Rex? The whole of Lithuania?
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>>175464591
has anyone made a starting strategy for that like someone did with persia
>>
>>175464350
golden circle
>>
>>175464901
?
>>
GAS THE KIKES
RACE WAR NOW
>>
>>175465225
1x Helpful
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>Trying to create a Gothic Reich as Theodoro
ITS FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>
>>175465883
No-CB Ireland strategy, escape to America and establish an American Gothic Empire.
>>
Looking to get into EU4 as a beginner to grand strategies, is there a tier list for DLCs to buy?
>>
>>175466120
Common Sense is pretty essential, El Dorado, Conquest of Paradise, Mare Nostrum, Mandate of Heaven too.

The Cossacks is widely considered to be one of the less-essential expansions.
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>>175466120
>buy
heh
>>
>>175466120
Just pirate everything.
>>
>>175464171
play as prussia, but dont form germany
instead blob into russia and create a groß teutonicums empire
>>
What should my goals be for Uruguay?Just forming La Plata?
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>>175466120
>giving your money to Paracucks
>>
I don't get why you'd ever bother playing in South America in V2. No coal, shit literacy, low pops, perpetually irrelevant
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>>175464171
make a huge germaniums and then post it here to trigger people
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>>175466765
Yes la plata is based and white
>>175466883
>blobbing
Nah not a fan
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>>175466849
>
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>>175466883
based krakow
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>>175465013
confederate americans capture all of mid and the north of south america
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>>175466120
>press ctrl+f
>type "hastebin"
>Open the link
>Follow instructions
You now have all DLC.

Just buy that shit when it's on sale.

Also there is a tier list on reddit.
Just google it.
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EU4 needs a decision to allow European nations to annex one of their colonial nations and move their capital to the New World under certain circumstances to model the behaviour of a country like Portugal during the Napoleonic period.

In the Napoleonic era, Portugal, having controlled Brazil for centuries, moved their capital to Brazil and didn't move it back until 1820 (and the subsequent decisions of the freshly re-Europeanised government to make Brazil a clearly-lesser element of the Portuguese realm made them declare independence).
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Which Daimyos have the best ideas?

Are Japan, Shimazu and Uesegi the top 3?
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>>175467340
shizamzu is best
>>175467254
just don't core your colonial nation mang
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the turkroach is no match for the mighty russian army
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>>175467975
>that much attrition
and that's why you don't attack Russia without extreme planning.
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>>175467975
How, also why did you not protect your slavic bretheren from the eternal teuton
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Is the Reaper's Due and Monks and Mystics worth using? Is the content in both designed more for flavor or just to impede the player to prevent blobbing (like Conclave's was). I play with everything except Conclave/Aztec.
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>>175467975
>white peace

What, you couldn't squeeze any ducats out of them, or get them to release Albania or something?
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>>175468253
>How
scorched earth

>why did you not protect your slavic bretheren from the eternal teuton
the eternal teuton is not long for this world

>>175468648
i had 2 rebel stacks on the eastern front close to enforcing their demands, i wanted to get done with the war asap
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>>175468624
reapers due is good
don't enable mandm as then sunset invasion happens
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>>175466883
>cheating
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>>175468624
reaper's due is shit, unless you enjoy even more RNG
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>>175469082
>implying
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>>175468624
Reaper's Due introduced based prosperity mechanics so you can turn frozen shitholes into 7-slot holdings
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I felt a great disturbance in the force... as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror,
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>>175461732
>>175462272
Why do people still call Victoria 2 liqqy? It's a steamcordplaza meme.
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>>175469306
Soo... this is the power... of HoI4 counters...
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>>175469306
and were suddenly silenced.
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>>175469436
>implying they aren't steamcordplaza
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>>175467340
>>175467475
Considering Shimazu starting position, uesugi is the best, I always have Japan united by 1485
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>>175469501
The gondola faggot, maybe, but the other guy makes a thought out post about the mechanics of CK2.
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>>175469436
Why do people call anything anything?

>>175469470
And then the cheating AI instantly built all of those because supply and manpower don't actually matter in HoY.
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>>175469516
>starting position matters
niqqa gitgud, one anon said play them and then i conquered japan in that go
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>>175469470
you dont actually kill them, they are just your prisoners now.
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>>175469306
>goy4
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>>175469881
A division IRL is made up of up to 15k individual troops. Assuming that's the case, we're talking 2 million and 70 thousand prisoners here.
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What ideas should I take for a comfy Inca game?

Unless someone wants to give me ideas for a better HIP campaign
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>>175470125
yep,.
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>>175470138
in HIP unite as hardrada and embrace your danish ancestors
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>>175470430
The fact that I'm collecting that many "prisoners" as Germany has taken my sides down the river.
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>>175470125
>2 million and 70 thousand prisoners
>prisioners
Suuure.
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>>175470953
Our soap and lampshade production is at all time highs, I'll tell you that much.
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>>175470953
actually they are no longer prisoners but a source of cheap labor lad.
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So I installed HIP and every character says "Not allowed to play secret_religion_visibility_trigger"
The fuck?
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>>175471465
you re not allowed to play secret_religion_visibility_trigger, why is it so hard for you to understand
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>>175471465
Should've bought the game
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>>175471465
that's what you get for pirating the game
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>>175472025
>>175472064
Thanks guys, seems like I just had to run the game from steamapps/common folder, rather than D:\Programs

Pirating made easy.
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>>175472305
worse than a pedophile
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>Always mock people for actually buying the game.
>The second anyone pirates it go and insult him for doing what anons recommended.
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>>175472959
>/gsg/
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Rate the expansions in terms of fun
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>>175472959
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>>175472959
>shitposting about shitposting about pirating
truly eup
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>>175473128
HPM>HOD>AHD
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>>175473098
Good point.
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Opinion: Paradox have never made a bad game
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So how would the medieval world really react to an immortal ruler? Also with these Latin Empire borders I have a higher levy size than the Aztec and Holy Roman Emperors combined. Have like a 45+ income as well.
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>>175430403
>playing /gsg/, currently southeast asia is on my screen
>mom walks in
>"Are you going there?"
>I say no
>"Why are you looking at a map, then?"
really made me think
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>>175471465
That's kind of amazing, I just now started having the same problem. I think if you just spam click it it will go away
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>>175472959
you're retarded lad
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>>175473365
"because i'm running an extensive simulation of the invasion and subsequent ethnic purge of se asia, mom. NOW GET ME MY TENDIES!"
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>>175473352
Blessed by God etc
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>>175473352
>So how would the medieval world really react to an immortal ruler?
He'd rule as legend until slain. Or until the church decide he's a witch of sorts and excommunicates him.
>I have a higher levy size than the Aztec and Holy Roman Emperors combined.
Conquer it all back then, ROMAINVICTA.
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>>175473352
where's your wife
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>>175473365
>Letting your tendie slave talk
What the fuck man
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>>175473751
I want to smash these Mexicans but the Pope isn't letting me into his defensive alliance because I'm 'not close enough'.

>>175473971
Never bothered getting another after she died. Just kept lovers around and picked and choose bastards to legitimize. No point in having a wife as an immortal.
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>>175474154
>No point in having a wife as an immortal
>entering into a sacred union of love and commitment until death is 'pointless'
pleb af, frankly.
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>>175474154
>No point in having a wife as an immortal.
except, you know, her extra stats
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>>175473371
>>175471465
Actually, I just figured it out. Are you still using the 2.7.0 with the steam beta option? HIP got updated just tuesday so it's now up-to-date with the latest version of CK2
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>>175474154
How much levy do the bulgars have?
Start with anatolia first, you have dejure claims on all of it, right?
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How does the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact work in HoI4? I signed it as Germany, now am I supposed to justify claims for Poznan and Danzig or will an event happen so I can split Poland with the USSR?
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>>175475086
If you declare war on Poland in any way (either from "Danzig or War" or normal justification), you will get an event after Poland has capitulated, offering to split it with the USSR. If you do, the pact remains in place, preventing you each from attacking each other until Jan 1, 1941. If you don't, the pact breaks and both sides can attack each other.
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>>175431298

Mod?
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>>175475269
Thanks mate
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>>175474317
Until her death, you mean.

>>175474420
With my massive ones?

>>175474525
They're pretty shit and they're also jews for some reason. Also I'm trying to go for the playing tall meme but I still want to crush Germans and Aztecs. Guess I'll probably get to join the pact once they take Rome since that'll count as 'close enough' to me being threatened.

Also important to note that the Bulgarian Tsar's main heir is actually his wife's son with me, but he hasn't found after all these years. So secretly the dynasty's actually going to be mine. I wish this actually gave me something in CK terms, like influence or some shit.
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Are AI naval invasions broken in Darkest Hour?

I don't think I've seen one happen.
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>>175432857

WHAT GODDAMN MOD YOU"VE BEEN ASKED MULTIPLE TIMES
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>>175476178
Paradox AI cannot into boats since forever and probably never will
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>>175476178
They do naval invasions if the stars align in just the right way. It's perhaps the weakest part of the game.
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Say what you want about HoI4, but at least the AI knows how to launch naval invasions in that game. One of the only things they did right.
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R8 muh Russia.

Should I colonize the spice islands?
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so, how exactly do i destroy buildings in ck2?if i raid them 24/7 will they eventually just dissappear?
i want to have 8 castles in my tall run
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>>175477693
You should've cut off the ottomans at the caucuses rather than Iran. Same with Danzig or marinenburg to stop the formation of the commonwealth
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>>175477818
Raiding can destroy buildings, if there are no buildings left to be destroyed it can destroy holdings.
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>>175478019
Maybe you're right. But I'm allied with commonwealth and we gave ottoman som real beating earlier. But I'm not even focusing on ottomans right now anyway, I'm focusing eastward. I want to boarder as many countries as possible so that I can conquer without too much AE.
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>>175477818
>>175478114
Also, if you want 7 castles then there's a Welsh province which has nothing but a castle in the Charlemagne start date
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>>175478114
>can
so it's just a(nother) dice roll?do you have any idea of what the percentages might be?
guess i'll start burning some churches now then
>>175478336
i already started a campaign that's been going pretty well started as whiteshirt guy, conquered sicily then became a chalcedonian, and for some reason i can still raid christians
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>>175478332
At the beginning of the game you are at a real great juncture tho. With Muslim, orthodox and Catholics, not to mention the different cultures. And if Sweden and Lithuania remain under personal union for long enough, they can act as as a buffer for AE as you expand. You can still ally Poland, thus controlling wars for Teutonic provinces. I make getting to the Teutonic and Livonian orders AND Iraq as quick as possible. To contain two huge cuter rivals. Ming tends to keep the east in check so you have a little time.
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>>175473352
>So how would the medieval world really react to an immortal ruler
New religion.
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>>175478591
>Has a 10% chance of destroying a random building in that holding.
>Has a 5% chance of destroying the holding entirely, if the holding has fewer than 4 buildings. The capital holding can't be destroyed.
>Always destroys any building or holding currently being constructed.

If you can still raid despite being Christian then that means you have a raiding culture/government like Norse/tribal.
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>>175478885
Future rivals*
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What are the top 5 national ideas of EU4?
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>>175478898
thanks for all the info
>The capital holding can't be destroyed.
damnit, guess i'll have to keep the church as a sub-holding and also give the main castle to the bishop, then hope he doesn't change county capitals before i finish raiding it
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Is there anywhere I can find meow and taxes updated to the mandate of heaven dlc
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Is there a way to play EU3 with CanOmer's Map and Miscmod at the same time? Can't enable multiple mods at the same time so.
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>>175479536
>Can't enable multiple mods at the same time
merge them manually?
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>>175479536
If you merge them manually and make it work, sure. Just keep in mind that COM uses a different map projection altogether so it won't work too good if MM adds more provinces and uses its own map files.
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>>175479536
just play DAO+Miscmods
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I've been away from eu4 for a while.
How shit is Russia in the new patch? I heard Ming got ridicilously buffed.
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>SEETHING
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>>175478885
Good point, I've never thought about that. Do you think colonizing south china islands is worth it?
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>>175479440
or any way I can somehow make the latest version of it work with my updated EU4, like disable an update somehow
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>>175480173
At your stage yes. Given the eastward path you have taken
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>>175480271
if you are on steam go to properties>betas
if you pirated it go fuck yourself pedo you'll have to download a full 1.19 pirated version
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>>175463161
>>175463258
>2 bolivia posts in a row
lmao why
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>>175480478
I pirated
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Is there an EU4 mod that lets you start earlier? I remember seeing people in the 1200's and the 1970's (I think)
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>>175480658
there are multiple eu4 mods that let you start earlier. ET (extendedtimeline) is one of them.
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Hey, so I have some questions about vic 2.

Do you guys generally build industries in states where the resources for that industry don't exist? for example, if I have a state with nothing but grain, would you build glass factory and liquor or just liquor? Or, with that same state, would you build stuff that requires coal and iron and stuff?

Generally, what are some good industries to go for/spam? I'm not really good at reading what's valuable, so what is usually ok?

Also, what are some good combos you usually go with in regards to building industry (like, in a single state)?

Thanks
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>>175482828
build glass/liquor/wine then encourage capitalists and once your industry is big enough go lazy fairy
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>>175473414
woah
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>>175476785
>but at least the AI knows how to launch naval invasions in that game
It doesn't. Paracucks just circumvented the issue by allowing AI naval invasion regardless of naval superiority. Out of all the games Paradox has made, HoI4 easily takes the cake of having the dumbest AI. They just did everything they could to make it seem not as dumb through cheating and dumbing down the game so the AI could function in areas that it couldn't before.
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>>175483091
Do I build them in ALL provinces, regardless of their resources?

Thanks!
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>>175483685
yes
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>>175482828
>if I have a state with nothing but grain, would you build glass factory and liquor
Yes. If your state only produces grain, there aren't going to be very many industries that get a boost from that. It makes the most sense to build the relevant industries and then also any industries that either supply or are supplied by those. So you would build a liquor factory in your grain producing state, and then a glass factory, and then see what you can build that also gets a bonus from glass production (e.g. a wine factory).

>Or, with that same state, would you build stuff that requires coal and iron and stuff?
If you don't produce any coal or iron, or aren't a powerful country that can buy plenty on the open market, you may have a bad time with this. But securing coal and iron is pretty important for industrialization, so once you do it does make sense to build factories for high-value technology goods like radios and automobiles (which all require glass or coal somewhere along their chain) in your states with bad/boring RGOs (like wheat only).

>Generally, what are some good industries to go for/spam?
Liquor certainly, along with glass and wine. High priced tech goods as I mentioned are good once you have them unlocked. Early game sometimes you have to spam cheaper factories, so cement can be useful.

>Also, what are some good combos you usually go with in regards to building industry (like, in a single state)?
The chains that end in luxury goods are usually pretty good, if you have access to the necessary silk or tropical wood. So for instance you'd build a lumber mill, a furniture factory, and a luxury furniture factory in the same state.
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>>175483685
maybe
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>>175483685
no
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>>175483685
It depends on your country. If you are a medium-sized shithole trying to catch up in industrialization, it's better to focus on your largest and most literate states, where you will be able to encourage a lot of craftsmen. Better to have 15% craftsmen in a 500k pops state than 50% craftsmen in in a state with a population of 15k. You probably want to have at least one factory in every state by the midgame, but you will focus on improving the most productive states until your industry is going strong enough to be unstoppable on its own.
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""""British"""" revolt
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>>175483470
thanks
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>>175467340
When it comes to combat Uesugi
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>>175477693
1/10
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>>175483685
No, you fell for a meme. You are supposed to build factories based on what RGOs the state you're building the factory in has.

The "leliqqy xDxD" is a reductionist view of Victoria 2's economy from people who are slightly less retarded than people who know nothing and assume because lots of provinces have grain that Liquor is always profitable. It is not. It profits, like all factories, where it's composite resources are abundant, and because there are more grain provinces than any other then statistically it has the most chance of success, if you just build factories randomly because you don't understand the game. To truly get the most out of all your RGOs and factories you need to look at the goods a state produces and build your factories accordingly, Steel in Iron provinces, glass in coal, wineries in fruit provinces, etcetera.

The people who use this reductionist narrative are a mixture of shitposters and redditors who play HoI4 and refuse to play Victoria 2 because in their ignorant mindset they believe they have got Victoria 2 "all figured out"
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>>175484904
Again, to further prove this point, here is a map of all the RGOs in Victoria 2's provinces. Notice how pretty much every state has grain. This creates the false dichotomy for shitposters, casuals, and redditors to back up their liquor meme.
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>>175485192
>memes
I didn't know deliberately being retarded was a meme. I must need to visit knowyourmeme.com more often to keep abreast of these developements.
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>>175485564
>le always absolute seriousness
go be retarded somewhere else
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FOR FUCK'S SAKE I TURN AWAY FOR FIVE MINUTES
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>>175484904
how come I always get to the top spamming liquor then?

Spamming IS a good strategy in vicky
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>>175484904
>>175485415
That being said, Liquor factories statistically higher chance to be profitable is good for starting industrialization as a small country. So, unless you literally have no grain, it's generally a good choice.
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>>175485650
Which character is that + is Warhammer mod finally not slow as shit anymore?
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>>175485661
Because you're building them in states that have grain. Liquor isn't overpowered, it's just that the good needed to optimise factory throughput of it is everywhere, making it viable. If you tried to build liquor factories in Tripoli or Scotland it would crash and burn.

>>175485648
But this isn't even a meme, it's just a few people who don't understand the games mechanics acting retarded, if you want to mimic them at least do it ironically.
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>>175485861
Warhammer runs OK after the RD patch, just disable the new world and the underworld with the fanmods
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>>175485861
It's playable but the framerate can chug. Geheimnisnacht. And I'm playing the Monkey Island meme pirate queen
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>>175485768
Oh absolutely, but what I'm saying is liquor isn't profitable because it's liquor, it's because there are a lot of grain provinces. If I was playing as the Rhineland then "build liqqy xDxD" would be of absolutely no help to me, it's important we understand these mechanics, lest we show ourselves to be ignorant.
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>>175485879
you sound like a total newfag
>>
Hey guys, SIM here. Figured everyone is ready for some V2 MP again. Anyone up for some HPM or something?
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I´m planning to get into modding. Is it a good idea to copy the entire Paradox Interactive EU4 folder just to be safe? And mod the copy?
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>>175486069
And you sound like a redditor who has been here for 6 months and is desperately trying to fit in. Keep spamming liqqy memes and I'm sure the upvotes will start flowing, lad.
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>>175485973
>Monkey Island meme pirate queen
Where?
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>>175486152
y e s
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what's the logic behind artillery requiring liquor and wine?
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>>175486157
Just make a new mod in the mod folder and then copy the files you plan to mod over to the mod folder, don't tamper with the original ones
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>>175486289
Right next to the Amazons
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>>175486436
Is she immortal for the obligatory tall meme playthrough?
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lets do it.
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>>175486223
MEMES

Thank you for spouting memes and stop being retarded.
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>>175486691
It's not a meme, you genuinely do sound like a tryhard faggot wanting to appear like he's /gee ess gee/ incarnate.
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>>175486790
Sure it's not if it makes you feel better.
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>>175486569
She doesn't come that way, no. By the way, the island in the serpent sea is called Monkeigh Island was ruled by a pirate vampire named Charles until I fucking murdered him and conquered it.
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>>175486970
There is a way to become immortal in the WH mod though right?
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>>175487168
Yeah, I can go looking for the fountain of youth
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>>175486957
>it is not if it makes you feel better
Oh look, you're also a South American/Eastern European who can't speak proper English, surprise, surprise. Fuck off back to your steamcord, Gruica.
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>>175484904
Thanks a lot for pic related, I'll try to do some planning around that!
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>>175487314
No worries, mate. Remember, Victoria 2 was the last good game Paradox ever made.
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>>175486436
holy shit how is that portrait of her so hot

HOLY FUCKING YUM
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>>175487235
Fuck off to tumblr you triggered cunt. People too retarded to properly deal with trolls is why /gsg/ sucks.
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What are the OBJECTIVELY top 10 idea groups for EU4 patch 1.21?

Is Quantity still the king of military?
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>>175487810
>still
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Which dutch state should I start as in EUIV?
My goal is to become the ultimate colonial trade jew.
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>>175487491
I don't know, lad..
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Why is playing a pagan ruler in ck2 so fucking cancerous? A 1 year old chief I declared war on raise 7k men out of nowhere. This keeps happening too, and it's not them raising prestige troops or buying mercs, as they don't have enough prestige nor enough money to raise said troops. Not to mention that gavelkind is fucking horrible.
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>>175487810
Quantity is shit.

Defensive/offensive.
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>>175488101
Friesland
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>>175488115
>old

what did he mean by this
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>>175484726
You're strict.
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>>175487752
>the person discussing the game mechanics of a grand strategy game is a troll
>the person spamming le liqqy 100 times a thread isn't
Bravo.
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>>175485956
>just disable the new world and the underworld with the fanmods
Where do I find these?
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>>175486569
Warhammer doesn't support tall memes, I tried playing Vlad as a peaceful and benevolent ruler but they forgot to/didn't want to add additional holding slots through prosperity
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>>175488167
>Defensive/offensive

You can only pick one
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>>175488323
She looks about 40. If you bred that your kids would be disabled.
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>>175488432
Your reading comprehension sucks.
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>>175488101
Holland of course. You'll start in a PU, tho. Restart until you start with both france and austria rivaling burgundy, so that they can both aid you in the war of independence (and you'll gain their alliances too). Austria's is more important to keep after if you have to choose, but having France as ally is gold because then they won't try to take your land themselves.
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>>175488504
in the geheimnisnacht subforum
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>>175488551
no
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>>175488645
>make statement ambiguos
>haha u didnt read it how i reddit in my head
Simply incredible. Please make another post.
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new meme soon, I can feel it
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Anyone know a way to attract missionaries to your land as a pagan in CK2? Conquering a Catholic province and converting isn't an option.
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>>175488784
There is no way to do that, but if you want to force convert then get a concubine (either through raiding or buying a favor to force-invite them to your court) and then convert to her faith
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>>175488764
Ok, now you are the troll.
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>>175488528
How to fix lads? Warhammer mod crashes on loading flags.

No I'm not running any other mods.
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>>175488742
>i don't know enough about what I'm talking about so I can't define on a general basis which group is better

What time is your bull coming over?
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>>175488936
>its trolling to call you out on your retardation
You calling it trolling doesn't make it trolling.
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>>175488973
It's not up to date, rollback to before tehe M&M patch
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>>175487453
Do you have any tips if a province has either only coal or only iron, say if a province has 4 states and it's something like 3 grain or 3 timber + 1 coal or 1 iron
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>>175473312
respectfully disagree x1
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>>175489009
>i don't know enough about what I'm talking about so I can't define on a general basis which group is better
>What time is your bull coming over?
What the hell are you talking about?
>>Defensive/offensive
>You can only pick one
This is false.
You can pick both, nothing stops you from picking seemingly opposite ideas in eu4.
So a simple "no".
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>>175489101
>only coal or only iron
Liquor is still profitable, you'll also want a few factories producing cement and machine parts, since you don't want to rely on imports to supply your own factories
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>>175489009
>he doesnt play as a massive blob with only 3 death stacks and a bunch of castles.
really made me think
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>>175489492
>Liquor is still profitable,
It isn't. Start up a game right now and build a liquor factory in the rhineland, it won't be worth shit.
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Does anyone know in what language Clausewitz is written in?
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>>175489934
swedish
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>>175434457
WHAT IS THAT MOD
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Fuck off anime!
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>>175490079
>AI Japan actually unified in 1579

I don't believe my eyes.
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>>175490341
Only to be killed. What a fate they embarked on.
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>>175483505
>AI naval invasion regardless of naval superiority
but wait, since transports in goi4 are (((abstracted))) does that mean that an enemy naval invasion force is immune to your fleet?
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>>175490872
no, you can get your units killed if you dont have a superior patrol in that area.
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>>175489265
Humor us and pretend you have to
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As Uesugi, what's a normal amount of time to unify Japan?
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Is there an up to date torrent anywhere of eu4 with all dlcs?
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>>175491247
I don't know
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>>175490872
No. If you have a fleet set to convoy raiding then there's a relatively high with submarines chance to intercept and destroy it. However, as the player if you don't have greater than 70% you can't embark on a naval invasion at all whereas the AI does not need naval superiority in the slightest.

>>175491106
Your units can be killed even with naval superiority and in fact, unless the AI only has a handful of ships across the entire invasion order you're guaranteed to lose at least one division. HoY is a massive clusterfuck and likely always will be.
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>>175491247
like 40 years
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>>175491296
Yes, the russian site in the OP
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>>175491296
https://pirateproxy.cc/torrent/17506590/Europa_Universalis_IV_Update_v1.20_incl_DLC-CODEX

This one, I guess. It lacks the last patch (hungary), but that's ok. Hungary has so many bugs that I actually rolled back to 1.20 and I'll wait for their hotfix.
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>>175491139
>us
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>>175489801
>>175487314
>>175485661
>>175485768
>>175486061
>>175485415
>>175484904
Just to prove what I've been saying, this is what happens if you try to build a liquor factory in a non grain RGO. It simply doesn't work.
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>>175491424
Also to dovetail further on this: the AI being allowed to naval invade no matter what led to massive fuckery where the AI was naval invading literally anywhere and everywhere it could which led to Germany and Italy capitulating extremely early or ending up with weird naval invasions like U.S. invasions of the Crimea. Rather than fix their bullshit system, Paradox just recoded the AI to only naval invade a fraction of the time such that now it's not all that uncommon to see D-day not actually happen.
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>>175491913
Its just a +5% modifier and a glass factory is +20%. Early game factories can also fluctuate wildly between negative values to +20s on a semi daily basis
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>>175491913
But if you also built a glass factory there, it wouldn't matter that there is no grain RGO. The "right type of RGO" boost is a pretty minor one in most cases.
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>>175491913
Yet I'm #1 industry with Australia because of liquor factories in all states.
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>>175492317
Australia has a fuck ton of grain.
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>>175491651
Thanks senpai
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>>175492317
Have you not read a fucking word I've been typing? Australia has grain in every state except Queensland, and I guarentee your le liqqy meme factories need subsidising there.
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the pastebin is too confusing for me, what submods can I install for hpm and which ones are already included in the last version?
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>>175492709
Aren't all minimods broken right now? and also forever because HPM is never ever coming back because he's dead
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How does it feel to know you fuckbois will NEVER be as alpha as Genoa?
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Why did my demesne limit randomly decrease?
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*sniff* im gunna be sorry to see the little guy go
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>>175493319
wife died
wife gives +1 demesne
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>>175493319
stop posting any time
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>>175493054
FEAR THE MINORS
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>tfw unhpm will never return
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>>175493645
She's been dead for nearly a century.
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>>175493737
Thank god.
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>>175493664
>insulting the interesting CK2 Tall player
>completely igonring the >le ebin hugry blob xxdddd

>>175493832
then I dont know f am.

>>175493737
good, he was a faggot
t. ex-discord spy
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>>175493915
Could it be the out of patience modifier?
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>>175493915
>>175493837
t. hpm
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>>175494169
hover over it

@175494235
not playing your games matey
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It annoys me that I need to manually start looking for the seven cities whenever my conquistador tries to walk into a province that is owned by someone else unless I have access.


Also
>pic
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I'm heading to moneyglux anyone want anything
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>>175494569
I'm good, thanks tho
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>>175494321
>>
>>175494569
yeah, get a one-way ticket back to /brit/

>>175494664
>-2 stewardship
theres your problem.
>>
LOL GUISE

>x fascists have awoken.

HAHAHAHA
>>
>>175494903
Buttmad commie redditor cuck detected. Get redpilled, you fucking numale.
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>>175494889
Also I can't increase realm laws to maximum/absolute. When I try to edit save game, its all gibberish. What's the tool to edit CK2 save games? Generally I use Notepad++ but it isn't loading it.
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>>175494664
>>175494889
also get yourself a wife damnit. it increases stewardhip, ergo increases demesne size.

>>175495167
no idea lad, ive never edited files
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Should I end my tributary status or will I get raped?
Also, rate
>>
Grand Strategy about an ayylium invasion WHEN?!
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>>175495356
expand more and form manchua. you might think that you re a big blob and shit but most of the land that you have is useless
>>
>What's a good place to start a Jewish Merchant Republic run? I'm thinking Ireland.
>What's a good place to start a Russian Zunist run? I'm thinking Ireland.
>Where's a good place to start a Hungarian Bogolimist run? I'm thinking Ireland.

MAKE IT STOP
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>>175495539
Where's a good place to start an Irish Catholic run? I'm thinking Ethiopia.
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>>175495539
>What's a good place to start an Indian Merchant Republic run? I'm thinking Gotland
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>>175495810
>>
>>175495167
notepad++ works fine
you probably compressed the savefile (it's an option when saving, disable it)
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Here's my start. My goal: Become Genghis Pope.
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>>175496421
>not ireland
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>>175449178
>Cathar
>Head of religion
>Reflection of the Catholic Church
what
>>
GUISE

LA PLATA

HAHAHAH
>>
>>175496063
Yeah, fixed now.

and allow_laws cheat doesn't work in HIP, at least not to override realm authority. Not sure why. I passed that law ages ago.
>>
How do I change a state to a colony? I can't find any lines dictating it in the save game
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>>175496743
(you)
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I'm getting real tired of kicking this global caliphate ass every 10 years.
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>>175493627
War is over, both nations rekt, they still hate me with a burning passion, but at least I won the throne of Austria.
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Will Paradox ever fucking realize that the reason CK2 was such a success was that it allowed people to immerse themselves in a historical (or fantasy with mods) environment?

No, an Aztec invasion will not give an interesting Mongol invasion substitute for the west.
No, paranormal events like immortals, demon children, witches and devil apostles will not spice the game up.
No expanding the date back to 600AD in CRUSADER FUCKING KINGS and filling the world with fantasy kings to expand the gameplay limit will not work out.

How about you have your devs actually play this piece of shit, have them realize the countless issues and annoying aspects of the game and MAYBE finally release a DLC that will add gameplay value, like playing as a landless entity (already implemented somehow by fantasy mods) or a reformed Crusades system with more flavor for western lords?
>>
>>175497815
The whole method of waging war in CK2 is retarded, but it's at the worst with de-jure / imperial reconquest CBs.

>have historic claims to the area
>can only retake a "duchy"s (which is a title that may or may not exist) worth at a time, killing thousands of men in the process
>can do this every five / ten years unless you decide to become literally hitler
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>>175497946
Should, I, lads?
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>>175498130
>implying CK2 is fun
Helloooo shit taste!
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>>175498130
>No, paranormal events like immortals, demon children, witches and devil apostles will not spice the game up.
They do though.
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>>175498257
>fight a huge war for a throne
>fuck your nation up in the process
>win war
>switch to theocracy
>lose PU you just got
???
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>>175498130
Paradox are literally retarded though.

>develop content pack with societies, some of which are secret
>add dark power and satanism meme instead of joinable holy orders
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>>175498130
Uhmm. Okay... How about a Demon King event that spawns demon hordes in Central Europe? It can even react with the devil sect adding more gameplay value!

EPIC, SIMPLY EPIC! What an idea!
Will price it for only 19.99 shekels...

t. johan, lead jew of paradoxplaza
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>>175498512
>>lose PU you just go
What? I thought I'd be crowned God Emperor of le ebin Hungarian Roman Reich.
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>>175498257
DO IT!
DEUS VULT
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>>175498130
>No, paranormal events like immortals, demon children, witches and devil apostles will not spice the game up.
>No expanding the date back to 600AD in CRUSADER FUCKING KINGS and filling the world with fantasy kings to expand the gameplay limit will not work out.
naeh those things are great
>>
In Hungary patch, is the Diplomacy actions bugged as fuck with you? I tried playing in HRE, and I could see that as emperor, the Diplomacy action thingy was bugged, with the emperor actions lacking, and the game crashed if I tried to click around with it.
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I should kill my wife and marry this universe version of Joan of Arc.
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>>175499156
She's celibate, so good luck trying to actually get an heir out of her.
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>>175469148
>that many russian states in 1864 with less than one badboy

If it was the 1900's it might be believable.
>>
>>175498130

I'd spend 20$ if they expanded CK to Bronze Age China desu
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>>175498469 (You)
>>175499048 (You)
>>>/steamcordplaza/
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>>175469148
how'd you do it then queerboy
>>
>>175499542
AAAAAAaaaaAaAaAAAaaaaaaaAAA

I NEED to MASTURBATE NOW
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Meanwhile Europe is still in flames of heresy.

Me and my court chaplain have been burning people non stop.

>>175499307
I could always join Satan's little club and make unholy babies with her or activate a rape mod.
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>fund niggers against most powerful country in the world
>it actually works
t. CIA
>>175499040
When I integrate Austria, seen as apparently you lose the PU.
>>175499048
Back you go, lad.
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>>175499156
I know these girls are based on Joan (with 20+ martial), but Joan wasn't really a military genius. She mostly had an incredible propaganda value. So perhaps recruiting them should increase your levies as long as they are alive, or give morale atk/def to the unit they command.

Joan herself did several blunders from which she only got away with because of the chaos there was.
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>>175498218
>(which is a title that may or may not exist
What do you mean by this?
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>>175500060
she was a schizophrenic zealot, she deserves the insane trait
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>>175499451
me too.
Early migration is the most interesting thing about ck2 anyway
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>>175499713
>marry her just to rape her
degenerate
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>>175500509
>refusing your husband sex

They only get away with it now because of Jews.
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>>175500720
She's a woman of God anon, you should respect her holy vow of chastity. Marrying her is for holy, NOT for sexy.
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>>175500887
Can't marry her if you can't have sex desu it can't be consummated so it's automatically annulled
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>>175498130
End your life honestly. CK2 is a fantasy game to start with.

>implying the feudal system can be universally applied to places like Byzantium and the Vikings

That said, I agree that spending effort on making an OP satanist society instead of making some interesting holy orders and brotherhoods is fucking retarded. You can't even play satanist hunter as you should be able to.

Hell, if you get exposed as a Satanist LITERALLY NOTHING HAPPENS. You should be fucking burned on a stake by your own people. Your soldiers should be deserting you en masse, mercenaries shouldn't be willing to work for you even if you have the money. Those were times where you couldn't just LARP and get away with it.

So, sure have satanists, just make a realistic reaction of the medieval world to them.
>>
>>175499156
Not sure why you're playing with such a disgusting UI.
>>
>>175501409

Satanists were all wrong. ALL wrong. Nevermind the magical powers shit, when you put out a flag for "I wanna become a satanist!" 70% of the time you should get caught and burnt at the stake. 20% of the time you just join a feudal hot topic social club. Only 10% of the time (or less) do you actually end up joining Elfstar and other real satanists with Real Power(tm)
>>
>>175501409
End your life honestly. CK2 is a fantasy game to start with.

>implying religious sentiments can be universally applied to places from Arabia to Denmark
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>>175501897
Agreed. Magic powers should only be available with the last 10%. The way it works now, fucking 50-60% of the medieval lords of Europe can end up satanist wizards.

>>175502002
But they aren't. Satanism isn't a thing around those regions because they aren't Christian.
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>>175499746
>hungarian army is led by fat women
hmm
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What do I do now?
Think I got everything I'm supposed to.
What was the plan past this?
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>>175500887
Making babies during marriage is literally holy.
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>be france in 1836, goal of the save is muh ethnic french colonies
>rack up a shit load of infamy invading dutch possessions in Sumatra
>entire world declares war on my and occupies provinces in france
>half of france movies to my new colonies, the island is already like 20% french in 1 year of war
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r8 this grob Friesland
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>>175499746
>>fund niggers against most powerful country in the world
> >it actually works
huh
never tried it before, does it make ai go over the forcelimit or smthing
>>
>>175503031
Noch klein/groB
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Bohemia finally reclaimed.
>>175504120
No idea, it's pretty OP tbvqh, Ethiopia were a backwards second rate power adn tehy were able to beat the Ottomans Vietnam style.
>>
not quite certain how it happened and now I can't see just how rampant it would get since I deleted the save in a bored fit (fuck orthodox religions in CK2 honestly mechanically boring as shit) but if you drag in nestorianism via secret society into Assam in CK2 and eventually secret society towards messalian then demand conversion from vassals the neighboring realms for no explicit reason get nestorian secret society members which leads to basically all of India converting to nestorianism

also, at least with random appearance turned on, seljuk and ghaznavid will spawn with incorrect dynasties, which apparently prevent seljuk from doing his whole manifest destiny thing. Pretty ironic for me since all his invasions prior to this patch failed miserably so often I had to make them random so he'd have a chance to actually threaten the abbassids.
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>>175504509
WOLLT IHR DEN TOTALEN KRIEG?
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>Karlings are out of the picture, central europe will hopefully stay disunified
>Nope
>This little shit happens

I'm gonna kill him out of spite.
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>>175505252
This CB really is OP AF.
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>>175485415
here's an excuse to post my HPMeme RGO map
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>>175506085
Hey, lad, can you make me a paintable EvW map?
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>>175505810
For fucks sake, I hate fighting these niggers. They themselves are fine but their fucking rebels spawn so you have to effecetively fight two different armies.

This must be how the Japanese felt in China during WW2.
>>
When is M&T 2.0 getting released?
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>>175506085
where is all the memes
>>
>>175506393
I used an existing vanilla map and redrew what borders were needed to match HPM. I haven't figured out how to make one from scratch without the lines varying in thickness.
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>>175506929
pdxcon
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>Leagues just opened

NO I WANT PEACE IN MY EUROPE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>175506991
Africa's cultures are a meme
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>>175507068
>
>
>
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Why the hell isn't this working reeeeeee

>Captcha: Obligatory errors, and in spanish of all languages
>>
>>175507729
wheres your native american mechanics icon?
>>
>>175493737
unHPM added some colour to this monotonous general
i still dont get whats the big deal over tripfags but at this point i dont even care
>>
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>>175507729
>mfw i need to reform the mayan religion
>mfw i don't have any of the dlc
>mfw it's a el dorado bug
>mfw i've wasted all this time for nothing
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Requesting the french version of Des Deutschen Vaterland.
>>
the pastebin is too confusing for me, what submods can I install for hpm and which ones are already included in the last version?
>>
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>>175509310
just install the flags and subculture mods so you can properly divide the uk and france
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Wew lad, I guess it's time to expel jews.
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>>175509481
>unread 18 major alerts
>unread 16 minor alerts

you should expel youre'selve tbqh my man
>>
>>175510167
>trait gain and characters spawning matter
>>
>>175510363
>I don't know how to edit which alerts pop up waah
>>
>>175507234
Tennessee, Kentucky and Missouri confirmed most pure south.
>>
>>175511407
you mean Arkansas?
>>
>>175511047
>editing irrelevant alerts will magically make them relevant
Message system does absolutely nothing in CK2.
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>>175502932
update: le grand exodus had some unintended results
>>
>>175511926
conquer them before they assimilate, build the panama canal, and spread your cores over south america
>>
>>175511658
I live in the south and I fucked that up.
>>
>>175512184
colombia is allied with britain at the moment so i'm gonna leave it but i like your thinking mon ami
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>>175512827
>allied with britain
So they have 0 great power allies? Because that island will do nothing
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What are your thoughts on this?
>>
>>175513360
Dumb
>>
>>175513360
>cheating
>>
>>175513360
Do you have panama?
>>
>>175513360
it depends,are you white?
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>>175513360
>this shit again
>>
>>175513612
yes
>>
>>175513612
no
>>
>>175513360
maybe
>>
>>175513360
could you please rephrase the question?
>>
>>175513360
I think an Andean Confederation could make sense. But adding the Southern Cone is too much
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>>175513360
put me in the screencap, reddit
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so a friend of mine gifted me Crusader Kings 2.

just noticed I can buy DLC for like a million dollars. is some of that DLC essential or is the game good as it is?
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>>175516234
Pirate all the DLC, having a legit copy of the base game is good enough to get proper updates.
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>>175516234
Just pirate it all
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>>175516234
Just buy it all, it's worth it.
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>>175516420
hello johan
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>>175516328
>>175516348
does that really work? how?
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>>175516692
the game doesn't lock you out if the DLC files are pirated or not, you just have to use the DLC activator supplied with most torrents/DLs
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>>175513360
VERY good meme
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>>175516842
DELET THIS
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>>175513360
You probably made it really fucking easy to get.
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>>175517876
>ameriga
redditors never fail to amaze me
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Red is a designated European color.
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>>175517876
Making it harder would take a lot of time for creating more events and decisions. I am a very shitty modder
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>>175487491
Gehmininsnacht in general has very beautiful portraits.

This game still hurts too much to go back to
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should I core my provinces or convert the religion first?
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There are so many things in HPM that need to be fixed but nobody will do anything...
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China in 9 months, woulda been faster if I hadn't had troops on Soviet borders. Where next? Land war or keep blobbing into Asia?
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I'll change some things so that there is more emigration from Europe in HPM.
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>>175520059
don't touch my mod
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>>175519980
genocide america
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>>175502851
Acquire the rest of China, claim the Mandate of Heaven.
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how do i balance budget?
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>>175521053
Increase tariffs. This will also make your pops mad, allowing you to get reforms more easily.
t. America Pro
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>>175521053
>>175521343
Also try to get the Whigs in power. They allow more taxation and even higher tariffs
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>>175521053
get lassiez faire and set all economy sliders to 0 except tariffs which are to remain neutral and military and naval spending which is to be maximized
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>>175498130
CK2 needs way more diplomatic and intrigue events. I would pay for that, but I am done paying for meme mods.

Certain things that happen in the game, like adventures, YOU should be able to do. But no, you have to watch the AI shit out deathstacks to go conquer Estonia while you have to grind claims. I really don't know why they didn't expand the planned invasion aspect to all factions and cultures. If I have a shitload of money and I say "Hey boys, let's take East Anglia because we can and I'll pay you," I should be allowed to do that, claim or no. Just let me conquer it, then give me a relations penalty with all neighbors or something because of my lack of legitimacy. Something.

The things that work would work even more if actually fleshed out, but they tend to abandon those things in favor of lesbian warlocks.
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Should I turn into an Oligarchic Republic as the Ottomans (EU4)?
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>>175521932
>>
>turkey invades greece
>greece invokes article v
>turkey is invaded
>turkey invokes article v
>everyone who just invaded turkey invades each other
>nuclear weapons
>all-encompassing death
cap this post
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>>175521932
>playing Ottomemes at all
wew lad
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currently trying to figure out how to intervene in the FRCA Civil War quick enough to have Nicaragua not spawn

this is difficult
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>>175522625

I'm forming Rome.
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>>175516234

most of the facepacks/shields/music packs are worthless. The EUIV converter for $10 is criminal, you probably don't need the ruler designer either. The actual DLCs are good but I'd still pirate/wait for a sale, in bulk they get fucking pricy.
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>>175499156
huwhat mod?
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>>175522746
can't you just help them annex it in the actual civil war later on?
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>>175522746
unsiege the capitol of Nicaragua first, if the captiol of Nicaragua is occupied long enough they spawn
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>>175523550
>>175523437
gottem

the key is to rush the Nicaraguan capital, even if you can only transport an initial army of 9000 soldiers. you can ship in another 9000 and push them into the middle of the battle
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I recently started trying to play HoI4. First gs game. So like ive watched probably 10 hours of tutorials + from zero gameplay videos.
Seemingly in every video the player just makes an army, clicks for it to go, and wins the war. (they legit dont even make offensive lines sometimes).
I concoct the most elaborate strategies just to take france as germany or counter japan as china, but i cant gain a single tile ever, no matter how advanced my units, how many artillery divisions i build.
Unironically, in China gameplay video dude takes all his units, makes front line, makes offensive line, fucks china in that one move.
I get my shit pushed in all the way to fucking mongolia.
Is this some really elaborate anti piracy programming? Like some games turn really hard if it detects piracy.

Literally 10+ hours of videos plus surely over 20 hours of gameplay as germany and china and i cant take ANYTHING besides Poland cus they have the fighting capacity of a 5 year old.
Yes i know about artillery meta, i know about hill infantry, tanks, fucking everything.

I CANT TAKE OVER A SINGLE COUNTRY LET ALONE WIN HELP PLEASE
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After 1200 hours of EU4 I've found another way to have fun, the "tall Italian anti blobber"

>Play as Italy with milanese ideas (dev. cost reduction, -50%)
>Don't take anything outside Italy
>Crush every blobbling nation into smaller states
>Play the world police

This is my Dayton's Balkan, future Hungarian/Turk loses in red
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>>175524193
HoI4 is a very, very bad game.

You should be playing either HoI3 for an actual Order of Battle/Semi-Wargame experience or Darkest Hour for the best mods
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>>175524193
Fucks japan* in that one move.
Also forgot pic
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>>175524325
Sure, as soon as I can take a single fucking country in this game besides poland ill happily go play something else.
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and now Central American democracy (and our trade interests) are saved

god bless federalism
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>>175524305
whole European map, Prussia is an ally so far and they are good canon folder, I keep them busy until I decide to break them into pieces
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>>175524612
show dev map mode(with one of your provinces selected, and one without) and trade value map mode
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>>175524612
kinda low score for the date, I'm an Empire btw
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>>175524597
liberate Panama and Yucatan
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why does Victoria 2 lag when i select an army?

this is very annoying and the whole game stutters and slows to a crawl whenever i have an army or fleet selected

this issue grants me attention
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>>175524597
>>175524818
Beat up the British for Belize too.
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>>175524796
It's not ground breaking so far, I'm saving for advanced tech. however they are all at least at 20 dev. and Roma is at 52
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>>175524962
I've never heard of this before, yif you have the steam good goy version you should verify integrity, otherwise reinstall.
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>>175523373
HIP
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>>175525358
>going pr*testant
ew lad, it's not even better at that point since with all of Italy you could be rolling in cardinals and free stability/mercantilism
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>>175525358
who do you play as to forum italy?
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>>175524193
>>175524361
>>175524520
Someone please Ive been trying to learn for dozens of hours but i feel like it's a waste seeing as i dont have any point to start a new game right now
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>>175525574
>worshipping a commie in a dress
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>>175525746
>Implying every Pope is like the current
>Implying Catholics worship the pope
>Getting your theology from a schizophrenic lunatic who only became a priest because he didn't get fried in a storm
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>>175524193
Umm. Have you been reinforcing your troops and getting them supplied? (aka are both orange and green unit bars full?)

If not, they will underperform no matter how you deploy them.

Also try to be on-par with the latest military tech (doctrines).
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>>175525574
Stability isn't really relevant, mercantilism could be good. But Pope hated me, and after my 3d king got excommunicated I betrayed Austria and Hungary to make the protestant league win, because fuck you.

Plus ideas are better to play tall. Pic related
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>>175526084
>>Getting your theology from a schizophrenic lunatic who only became a priest because he didn't get fried in a storm
THIS from the people who refuse to translate the bible from a dead language precisely so people can't interpret the bible themselves and have to obey paedo priests.
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is this normal

anglos and frogs are both in open revolt
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>>175526349
As far as i know yeah, I mean ive tried literally mimicking youtube videos exactly for science and nah I get my shit pushed in ruthlessly, meanwhile in the video he'll just make a casual offensive line and thats basically a 1 click win.
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tfw saving Europe my the skin of my teeth.
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>>175525657
Milan, for the -10 dev cost. but it's easily doable with Florence, Naples or even Savoie. The other nations over there are boring to play IMO.
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>>175526764
What portraits?
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>>175526645
that is strange what kind of rebels are they?
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>>175526932
They're the new Norman portraits. They're pretty good, they actually look human.
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>>175525358
>I'm saving for advanced tech.
Why?
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>>175522625
t. Reed
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>>175526932
Those look like the Finno-Ugric ones. You get them in Finland, Lapland, Estonia, and the random literal who tribes on the other side of the white sea.
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>>175526437
Ah that makes sense then, it's invaluable if you are a European nation constantly at war and expanding but if you're staying comfy then it will only help with trade.

>>175526557
>Being this retarded
The Bible was left untranslated to prevent any errors or anything similar that could fuck up the message of a chapter. It's not like the church prevented anyone from reading it, the upper class would have had a reasonable grip of Latin or a similar romance language and could get enough out of it to know the priest wasn't talking out of his ass. The poor would have to learn it from the priests (which most would have done anyway since the majority were illiterate) who would have had a much better theological understanding of it than some middle aged german farmer just reading a copy.
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>>175527305
>who would have had a much better theological understanding of it
According to the priests.
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>>175527041
canadian nationalists and quebecois nationalists

the canucks are traveling through my lands for some reason
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*nails shitpost to the door*
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>>175527450
30 million people died

worlds deadliest shitpost
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>>175527430
Probably a Rebellions of 1837 event.
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>>175527286
You're wrong
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>>175527450
>>175527547
Fuck off, Süd Amerika niggers.
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>>175527725
t. Martin Luther
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Proper thread
>>175527526
>>175527526
>>175527526
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>>175527725
South America was animist when Luther was alive.
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>>175527430
You should help the leaves become independent, puppet them, and then claim the rest of BNA for yourself.
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>>175527990
The Anglo leaves or the French leaves?
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>>175528064
Why not both?
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>>175527573
>cheating
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>>175527430
if you have military access with the nation then their rebels have that access as well
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>>175528124
Because French catholicd are just about the worst thing you can be, second only to Irish catholics.
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>>175528302
Not as bad as Spanish Catholics and you have no problem claiming land from them.
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How societies should've worked:

There are multiple societies (multiple satanists, etc) for each of the main "branches"
Each ruler can create a society (but most AI will cling to powerful societies)
Societies have clearer inheritance and clearer membership
Societies have great cross-realm and diplomatic powers (IE a society ruler in England can convince society members in France to do stuff, society members can be allies in wars, etc.)
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>>175529434

Also: the major society events for people meeting, joining, debating happen secretly during public realm events like tournaments and during pilgrimages
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Eternal no more
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>>175532030
Lad, I.. >>175527840
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What is a good first idea for Timurids? Plan on chilling out as a horde until the disaster hits Ming. Not sure if I want to be Mughals or even try to form Great Yuan.
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>>175534352
Lad.>>175527840
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>mongols fall apart without even denting a super caliphate
>memes invade me and get btfo

I guess I'm stuck forever with 150k muslim superstate to the south of my border. At least that their borders look neat.
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>>175535459
For fucks sake, lad, did you not see the last 4 posts. >>175527840
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>>175535510
Nah I've been playing. Thanks

Doesn't really matter anyway
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>>175535459
hope your save corrupts for playing with meme sjw invasion
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