/civ4xg/ - Strategy/4X General

I want to equip FTL engines into my Dyson Sphere and send it to neighbour systems to fuck up with enemy's planets orbits.

>>174983742
You can't move a star.

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>>174983814

Of course you can.

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the appreciable difference that 7 customs office on a ringworld+tomb world do.
92 pops in the system total

>Buy stellaris
>Wanna make my own species of psychedelic space vampire trees
>No tree species

wow what a scam

>>174983814
can't go faster than light either but this is stellaris

>>174983943

There are trees, anon. 7,99€ DLC

>>174983943
>he doesn't have plantoids dlc

>>174983931
Huh. B... But how? A star is a giant, FUCKING HUEG piece of lava.

How can I integrate Stellaris into my sexual life?

>>174983943
just 7,99€ anon :^)

>Can´t be both genociding fanatic and spiritual fanatic
What the fuck was the point of making so many warhammer references if you can´t even make Imperium of Man

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>we will never go FTL
dumbo here, how come

>>174984219
Only 7,99?! Wow, that's reasonable!

I don't feel scammed anymore!

>>174982739
FTL is basically a necessity for any sci-fi setting given that otherwise nothing can ever even theoretically escape it's local cluster.

Dyson spheres are fundamentally fucking stupid as a concept. You need a patently ridiculous amount of impossibly strong material (we're talking about mining out an ENTIRE solar system and then magically transforming all that mass into adamantiun or someshit)
THEN develop magic anti-gravity technology which might as well be as impossible as FTL
All for what? Because some dumb star accidentally does fusion.
YOU CAN DO FUSION TOO DUMBASS
You have impossible amounts of material and tech, literally just build fusion plants
It would probably even be more efficient

test

>>174984354
results are in; you have AIDS

>>174984123

Plasma, but precisely. Build the Dyson Sphere around it in such a way you force star's emissions to go in just one direction. Also, It drags along the whole star system too!

>>174984345
dysoncucks on suicide watch

>nobody's whining about the OP
Nice to see you people finally accepted it.

>>174984396
Won't that fuckup the entire sector if you move a solar system?

>>174984123
Basically a fuckton of space mirrors

>>174984468
they'll be fine

I remember developer diaries mentioning that Hive Mind doesn't get Psychic Ascension path because "they have their own unique way of interacting with the Shroud". Is this actually true and do they get some other type of Shroud / Psychic interactions or was it just Hebrew lies?

>>174983742
I can bet the actual planet destroyer super weapons, when they eventually come in DLC are the same as current megastructures: unlocked way too late, abhorrently expensive and slow to build / use (something like 1 planet per 50 years) and completely useless in general despite atomic age FTL species already being able to turn their own planets into nuclear wastelands.

It'd be cool if Purifiers with Biological Ascension got access to species targeted viruses which they could then release on other empires or their own undesirables through bombardment or special projects.

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>>174984345

How are you going to have generate enough quanties of antimatter and micro-black holes, then? We need more resources and energy! If you can defeat science by achieving FTL, you can also make a Dyson Sphere.

>>174984396
Wouldn't that effect the orbits in some way?>>174984512
SPIDERS OUT REEEEEEEEEEE

>>174984345
>mining out an ENTIRE solar system
likely not even a solar system would be enough, it's entirely stupid

>>174983941
Custom offices?

>>174984601
Would be cool to make a virus that will genetically modify all the off springs of a species to be flexible enough to suck their own dicks and then make them compulsive about it so they die out due to every male of the species never leaving their space house because they're sucking their own space dick.

>>174984345
>dyson spheres are fundamentally stupid
Indeed they are, you can blame sci-fi for that. Actual dyson spheres are not solid objects, they are swarms of orbitals unconnected to each other

>>174983309
So if you play with only one AI, half the habitable planets will be the same type as your home world?

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>not keeping the last surviving member of a formerly powerful species alive as a pet just to spam insult on him

this ONE little fucker has declared war on our "59.9999% of the map" federation 4 times now, it's cute

>>174984786
>actual dyson sphere
The first idea of it really was a full sphere. Swarms came later.

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>2345
>still no end game crisis

the fuck

>>174984345

Not really, we only need to eat Mercury to make a partial Swarm, which is probably what most civilisations end up doing. The process would take 70 years. For a complete Dyson Swarm, we would probably need to disassemble Venus, Mars, and a good number of asteroids and outer solar system moons. However, unlike FTL, it is within the realm of possibility. It's just a matter of industry.

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>FE relative power keeps dropping

Soon you fucking faggot.

>>174985017
>all that empty space around you
>being that small in current year
the fuck

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>>174984758

>>174985017
>345
>still a tiny blob
what the fuck have you been doing

>>174984264
All schemes for FTL require negative mass or negative energy (same thing, really, E=mc^2), which theoretically could exist, but probably doesn't for lots of reasons.

>>174985047
>dyson sphere in our own system

>>174985170
I don't want to expand from the comfy confines of my empire.

I have three Gaias in the works in my current systems and plenty of habitats coming up and that's all I need.

>>174983612
What is your obsession with this spider, I need to know.

>>174984603
The whole point is that if you have enough magic to make a Dyson sphere you might as well do something less retarded with it.

>>174985332
There is no obsession.

>>174985326
enjoy cucking yourself

Dyson Sphere should generate energy AND minerals. You'd think that with all that energy you could power massive energy-matter converters and universal constructors to build whatever material you need.

>>174984992
Freeman Dyson proposed a swarm, not a sphere. He knew a sphere would be impractical. Look it up.

>>174984137
Have a slave service their emperor while they manage the nation.
>>174984468
It's highly predicted that in a galaxy collision with Andromeda, if the solar system gets ejected from the galaxy it will be mostly intact.

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>>174985460
How am I cucked? I'm comfy as fuck. I had one war like 100 years ago and all that resulted in was this cluster fuck next to me because my only rival got the shit liberated out of him.

Bloody Yeons... Thoseflamboyant space parrots should go choke on a raisin cookie.

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>>174985396

Yes, we can Starlifting: Disassembling stars out of its hidrogen to get enough energy to fuel your civilisation for trillions of years and forge stars at will. Scifi-fags lack a a sense of scale.

>>174985512
Shut up. I'm scared.

>>174985326
>Why the fuck are you eating shit man?
>ITS FUCKING COMFY ALRIGHT?? YOU WOULDNT UNDERSTAND ITS COMFYYYY

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>>174985508
> Energy -> matter conversion
You don't know what the fuck your'e talking about kid.

>>174983943
>Not just unlocking the DLC's
>Buying Games
>Supporting swedish cuck developers that jew you with overpriced micro DLC's.

>>174985819
I don't understand.

Is this supposed to feel uncomfortable because I'm not blobbing up like in 99% of every other game of Stellaris?

>>174985787

You know what's worse, it will happen before our sun dies out. It will also reactive the galactic core and turn the new galaxy into a quasar, killing every living being in the galaxy with its radiation.

>>174985902

Matter and energy are the same thing, boy.

>>174985973
Shut the fuck up already.

>>174986097
Which is great academnic trivia but as a source of raw materials means absolutely NOTHING.

>>174984264
Something about infinite speed = infinite mass. And then infinite speed requiring infinite energy.

Not really sure why FTL is infinite. Lightspeed +5% is just 5% over lightspeed.

But I'm a dumbo, too.

>>174986213
Except when you have technology to turn energy in to material

>>174985195
>filename
How big is a mineral?

>>174986259
The energy required to create a single hamburger+cheese is enough to power a city for a thousand years.

You are an idiot and it's time to stop talking.

>>174985508
>get a shitload of materials
>probably mostly hydrogen which you fuse to make other elements
>build dyson sphere/swarm with them
>get energy from the start with a some inefficiency due to the laws of thermodynamics
>use that energy to create hydrogen with some energy lost due to efficiency
>fuse the hydrogen together into heavier elements
>instead of just using the hydrogen in the first place or start lifting
anon...

>>174986249

It's because the mass of an atom comes from the sum of it's potential and kinetic energy + the intrinsic mass of its particles. Something with infinite kinetic energy would have infinite mass.

>>174986429
Can you elaborate how it takes that much energy and why the process be made energy efficient with technology?

>>174986429

Good enough to produce antimatter, the fuel of any reasonable interstellar spaceship.

>>174986517
Because E = MC^2, doofus.

>>174986517
>why the process be made energy efficient with technology
Why the process CAN'T be made energy efficient with technology

and I mean energy efficient enough to make it practical as a mean for material production.

>>174986517
>>174986641
you are literally

transforming

energy to mass
HOW THE FUCK COULD YOU MAKE THAT MORE EFFICIENT THAN A 1:1

>>174986598
Thatanswers none of those questions. Are you trying to take the easy way out of explaining or are you just talking over your head and can't explain why you are saying what you are saying?

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And here we are 10 hours of observation and its 300 years since game start cementing my theory as proofs. 1 hour=30years with the 1st hour being=50years. Of note I suppose is the swarm spawned and died within about 15 years go fucking figure and 2 ancient empires have been wiped out 1 by an awakened one the other by that enlightened kingdom blob in the east. Now to play this game again.

>>174986897

by turning 1 energy into 2 masses dipshit

>>174986897
Just because you can turn energy to mass, it doesn't mean it's not lossless. It can't not be lossless.

>>174986920
That IS the answer, retard. Look it up and learn that turning energy into matter is literally LITERALLY the most retarded fucking thing you can do at any point in time even with a time machine.

>>174984123
Dyson Spheres have MANY potential uses, besides just harnessing unlimited energy from a star.

IRL Dyson spheres would OP as fuck, and if mankind ever built one it would propel us into god hood.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjtFnWh53z0

>>174986641
Because the process is hard limited by a universal constant. Even at perfect energy efficiency, which is impossible due to the laws surrounding entropy, it takes ridiculous amounts of energy.

Think about nuclear reactions because they're the same process in reverse, mass being converted into energy. Absolutely minuscule amounts of radioactive materials are converted into absurd amounts of energy, think about nuclear bombs and how little the fissionable explosive in them are and how destructive they are. You should be able to guess why the reverse process requires enormous amounts of energy to create tiny amounts of matter.

>>174985693
If you enjoy it that's fine but I would be bored as fuck. There is literally nothing to do except expand and war. If you're not doing that you're just waiting for your minerals to count up and wait for that little yellow triangle to pop up on your buildings so you can upgrade. You don't have to rush to blob or anything but holy fuck 145 years of sitting on your ass

>>174985195
What mod?

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What do I need to change in the files to increase the number of ethics. I need to have two civics for my RP playthrough but I cant get both with just three civics

>>174987189
I've been exploring, designing ships, destroying pirates all over the galaxy and helped out some empires far out in wars.

There's been plenty of things to do.

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Let's think bigger.

>>174984264
The speed of light isn't actually the speed of light, it's the maximum speed of anything, ever. Light was just the first thing we noticed went at that speed.
For example, gravity goes at this maximum speed too. If you deleted the sun, the earth would continue to orbit around it until the message that the sun doesn't exist anymore reaches us. And there's no way to send any message faster than that speed, even if you are a fundamental force of the universe.

>>174987259

I think it's NSM lol

Reminder that the people saying we can't do X are the same people that were saying we cant take to the skies or go into space. Literally agents sent by the overlords to keep humanity in check.

>>174987414
SHUT IT DOWN

>>174987365
Spooky action at a distance, also the universe and space itself stretch faster than the speed of light

>>174985508
>and universal constructors
I'm going to flip my shit if the eventual DLC adding buildable Titans is just going to be a regular +7 upgrade to spaceports rather than actually having to construct a massive unique shipyard first that also provides all sorts of ship and fleetbuilding boons or exclusive modules apart from Titan building.

>Create Hive nation
>2 immediate neighbors
>Go early war with one
>Eat one planet
>DOW again
>Eat his other planet
>Run into Fanatical purifier
>He controls the top Quarter of the galaxy already
>50 years into the game
>Overwhelming fleet power
>Declares war on me
>Alt f4

Hives seem fun.

>>174987134
Well, maybe there's technology to make matter easier out of energy. Like, build a dyson sphere around a star, except it's not a dyson sphere, but a ship shaped dyson shape that contracts and all the energy in the star is molded into a planet sized spaceship just like that.

>>174987032
Like breaking helium down into energy then turning that energy into 2 hydrogen?

Don't think it works that way.

>>174987518
>also the universe and space itself stretch faster than the speed of light
Oh yeah we have no fucking idea what's up with that lol

>>174986598
Wasn't that found to be incorrect recently?
Or at least not fully accurate?

>>174987298
anyone?

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>>174987518
>>174987617
maybe our universe is one giant tit and someone is rubbing it; thermal expansion

>>174987801
or a giant dick and someone is wanking it

>>174987891
That's gay tho

>>174983612
How do I bait the AI into sitting still for a few minutes so I can send my death fleet in to kill them?

They keep escaping.

>>174987935
Send them a big juicy fleet of transport ships

>>174987935
transport fleets bait

>>174987801
Asuka is lewd.

She's also better than Rei.

>>174987935
>playing tag with the AI
>ever
just go bomb their worlds

>>174987935
Place a single transport in a colonized system with your doomstack outside of their sensor range.

>>174987801
the universe is a simulation
planck time is the tickrate and the speed of light is a byproduct of that
local clusters are different servers that's why they break physics

Monthly reminder you're just a bacteria in some autistic, brain damaged 7 year old alien child's science experiment for his Multidimensional Universe Creation 101.

>>174986641
See:
>>174986445

Also see: https://youtu.be/_Kt7883oTd0?t=1283

You'd need to go impossibly fast to print a hamburger in a reasonable amount of time.

>>174988154
Would be easier to just print food out of some configurable nutrient past

>>174984345
If we ever figure out how to convert energy into matter than mining would be unnecessary.

also
>stupid as a concept
it's called scifi as a reason. every outlandish thing is dumb as a concept until some mad man figures out how to actually do it.

>>174988154
But what if you have technology to do that?

Just finished Worm in Waiting for the first time, that shit is writen sooo good, wish they made more events like that

>>174988137
So what you're saying is we're all actually playing star ocean?

>>174988154
>post-scarcity
fuck off commie

>>174988329
Play Sunless Sea
Same writer.

>>174988353
No we're the npcs

>>174988314
What if you have the technology to do what? FTL? If you can do FTL, you can probably create perpetual motion devices and break thermodynamics, so you have infinite energy and 100% of this discussion is pointless.

>>174988396
Commies could probably never attain post-scarcity.

>>174987309
I am trying to do the same here but I am only 60 years in
Tell me kind sir
I am thinking of getting the Force Projection because few ports and then going for megastractures
What do you think?

>>174987580
There is it's called "grab a shovel and dig the matter that already exists"

>>174988424
I tried Sunless Sea.
It was crap. You constantly bleed money.

We doing a poll for the roster for the /vg/ cup then?

>>174988552
sounds like my life

>>174988594
How many players can we replace? We can make a poll with various Stellaris/Civ6/RTS/Civ-builder memes and allow people to pick a few of them.

>>174988475
If you have a nice neighbor or two with a decent navy and you can get a defensive pact then you can kind get by with minimal navy, so I'd say fuck that and go for technological ascendancy and then voidborne to get habitats. If you actually need to have a navy then I guess Force Projection is ok, but only if you can actually sustain a fleet to fill out the navy cap.

>>174988552
Aye it has tonnes of problems.
I hear they're adding more home ports in sunless skies so you're not always limping back to the same port from the opposite side of the map.

>>174983612
Is vassalizing other empires worth it or should I just steal their planets?

I'm kinda at max cap for all of my planets and shit though.

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Turn that key senpai
Pedal to the Metal

>>174988638
>#relatable

>>174988458
>What if you have the technology to do what? FTL? If you can do FTL, you can probably create perpetual motion devices and break thermodynamics, so you have infinite energy and 100% of this discussion is pointless.

Yeah

>>174988771
Go full blob

>>174988859
KICK REASON TO THE CURB! DO THE IMPOSSIBLE!

>>174987796
I've tried editing the obvious lines in the main text file for that sort of thing to no avail, it had no effect ingame.

>>174988771
It is. Though it's better to liberate their planets and vassalize those planet, since they would be in love with you and convert most of the population to your ethics.

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>>174988859
fuck the consequences.

Go full science or go home.

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>>174987518

>Spooky action at a distance.

Just one of the more arguments that we are living inside a videogame.

>Locality is an illusion.
>Yet causality is conserved.
>Particles know they are being observed.
>Particles not only know they are being observed, but retroactively know they WILL be observed when you create an entangled pair and make one of them reach the screen before the other.

>Dark Energy generates negative pressure. It pulls things apart generating "anti-gravity".
>Density of dark energy is constant. More dark energy is created out of nothing.
>Negative Pressure means that energy is gain on expansion. This violates thermodynamics and conservation of energy.

>>174988859
What's the worst that could happen?

>>174988726
I am at 3 planets now, I have 2 more over 16t in my borders for terraforming and then thats it
I dont have any diplomatic relations, I want to see if I am going to make it just by being an autistic species that just want to be left alone

>>174988859
>Have we leaned nothing form tampering with ancient technology?
Not enough

>>174988989
Yes exactly, that´s why Im asking

>>174988859

Is this a new quest?

>>174989009
You need to make sure to time it right so you get in the vassalisation demand before another Empire does though.

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>>174988771
You mean liberate?

>>174987801
Some Gyro Gearloose story and many other shit I don't remember went "yo dawg" with universe and that inside every single atom broken to even tinier bits (quarks, leptons etc.) that we can't observe yet there's even a more tiny universe there where time flows much slower compared to ours. So inside the building blocks that make atoms you got tiny universes and inside their tiny building blocks there's even a tinier universe and our own universe is also actually the same. Infinite levels going both ways.

So our universe could be a building block of Asuka's tit.

>>174988771
Vassalizing usually gets you more land in one war, and you can later integrate them to your empire provided you have influence to spare. If you're just wondering about blobbing and ending the game I think vassals (not tributaries though?) also count towards domination victory (owned planets) and not just conquest victory (subjugate everyone in the game). If you're at the point you can steamroll everyone anyways then subjugating is much less of a hassle since you don't even need to subjugate them all, plus it too nets some bonuses with Domination tradition tree.

>>174989009
>Though it's better to liberate their planets and vassalize those planet, since they would be in love with you and convert most of the population to your ethics.
Just remember not to do this if you're xenophobe. You'll just get militant or isolationist xenophobes who reject you despite being their liberator. It's kind of silly. Unless you have very, very high gap between tech and power, they won't accept.

>>174988552
>>174988740
The major problem with sunless sea is it's literally about learning systems, then once you know them, exploiting them. Once you understand the game it's impossible to die. It goes from a very interesting game about exploration and just surviving to exploiting money routes to grind cash.

I really found the one home port to be the least of the game's problems.

GOAT soundtrack and atmosphere though.

>>174989217
Leviathan Events Expanded (LEX)

>>174989009
>liberate their planets
This is the best shit. Better than humiliation. You get either free allies or free vassals who absolutely love you. And the guys you beat just get to sulk while you fuck their girlfriend.

>>174989046
>>Particles know they are being observed.
the "oberserver phonomenon" has been known to be bullshit for decades, it's just propagated by idiot popsci outlets. Quantum interactions with things outside a system (e.g., detectors) change the way the system behaves. Go figure.

That doesn't disprove the simulation hypothesis, though, and there's definitely a lot of spooky and hard to refute evidence that it might be true.

>>174989295
True, and not to liberate to many planets because you'll get that retarded "empire pop" penalty. Just like "economic base" in Europa Uiversalis.

>>174989164
I've tried searching for it before, there's very little on the subject and what little there is has been fruitless. It may be hardcoded into the game and they merely forgot to remove the lines from the .txt file.

>>174989352
Yeah. It's one of these games that encourages looking shit up on the wikis.

>>174989587
It's wiki is fucking awful though.

>>174989362
>Ayy Curators could I beat the Stellar Devourer with my current fleet
>Sure pham
>Fleet reckt
>Leviathan angry

Th-thanks

>>174989779
the curators only measure fleet power, not fleet composition, you absolute retard.

>come to read about spiders and synths
>extradimensional musings instead
Very cool.

>>174989779
They only rate fleet power. Not your chance against such and such boss.
You might have had a bad fleet comp too.

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*tips space helmet*

>>174989910
better than oil vs nuclear vs coal vs wind desu

>>174989883
>>174989942
Yeah I figured, I had only 30k with top weapon being Kinetic Artillery

>>174989970
Better than /indie/ where they once talked about shitting on your guns.

>>174989910
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MKGy2cg4Wk

>>174989910
desu the idea that we're in a simulation just reinforces the idea that we can find a way to go FTL in some way.

>>174989959
Spiritualists are either ISIS tier or Space Jacob Withnesses
I think its done on purpose

Pictured, a AE getting its shit absolutely destroyed by the unbidden because they refuse to pull their fleets back from a war with their neighbor to actually save themselves.

>>174989779
What was your fleet comp? Devourer is mostly energy weapons, but with some torpedos. Stack shields on your small units, but don't forget to put some armor on your big ones. Fuck his ass with torpedoes and kinetics.

>>174988697
There was a bunch of suggestions last thread

>>174990229
Good job.

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what the hell do I even do with this 20% habitability system that my neighbor generously ceded to me if I'm a hivemind

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>>174990229
>forgetting the pic
FUG

>>174990371
Terraform it, obviously.

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>>174990156
You may like dis

>>174990230
Corvs with torps and shields, Destroyers and Battleships with kinetics
It was just to early techwise

>>174990156
intergalactic no-clip when

>>174990463
I miss hfy threads.

>>174990443
can you even terraform already colonized planets?

>>174988697
>>174990280

I liked:

>Torpedo Corvettes Only
>Hyperlanes Only
>System Survey Complete
>Kumo

>>174990572
No, but if you purge off all the pops and it's still in your borders, you can.

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How does the game decide which ethos to replace when you embrace a faction? Embracing the opposite of your current one obviously replaces the old one, but there's a total of 8 ethos (4 pairs not counting Hive) while you can only have 3 max. Or one fanatic and one normal. What gets replaced if the embraced ethos is not opposite of your current ones?

Can you also embrace a faction twice to make it fanatic? I'm pondering if it's possible to turn my Pacifist / Spiritualist / Xenophobe empire (with unlocked Psionic Ascension) into Fanatic Xenophobe / Militarist for Fanatic Purifier civic.

>>174990664
>purge
I prefer the term "radical decolonisation"

Much less aggressive

>>174988145
Will he get a good grade for it?

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>>174990463
tfw we were sky-net all along

>>174990508
Not so much noclip, but every system has bugs, the more complex it is the more bugs it has though they may be more subtle. But what happens when the code itself goes looking for bugs to exploit?

Do the adjacency bonuses stack onto the adjacency buildings?

If I put an energy nexus next to my capital, does the capital add to the adjancency that the nexus gives out

>>174990946
I like how we're assuming whatever incredibly advanced construct or species that made our simulation is equally as shit at coding as we are

>generating +100 extra energy/month
>fleet leaves spaceport
>suddenly drop to -50 energy/month

>simulation
>video game
>science experiment
quasi-mystical explanations
if there is some kind of extra-dimensional activity, what makes you think you can describe what it is in itself?

>>174991146
Really when we argue for ideas on such a
ludicrous scale, assumptions go out the window.

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How the hell do I become both spiritualist and xeno purging maniac? I dont have enough civics

>>174991387
not really, it is completely unfathomable what that species would be like, in the same way it's completely unfathomable for God.

I'm not underestimating how hard coding is, or how bugs are inevitable (for us) when making such a large project, but afaik we're the only species that can code, so we have no way of knowing if that is universal or not.

>>174990814
rapid planetary naturalization is better. Sounds more "green" and separates itself from the shadow of white colonialism.

>>174991253
Do you actually understand the simulation argument?

Imagine that we could simulate a true universe. We can already do some pretty impressive simulations, but they're slow. But, we know enough about QM that if we had the computing power, we could do some pretty ridiculous, and very accurate simulations.

Now, imagine we had that computing power. This is actually surprisingly doable. Look up Matrioshka Brains and the Landauer Limit. The point is, we could simulate millions, billions, trillions of universes.

But, our simulations don't have to be THAT accurate. If we're doing an ancestor simulation, simulating earth millenia ago, we don't need to do a full simulation of galaxies billions of lightyears away, or even stars hundreds of lightyears away. A lot of things we could simulate on the fly as or simulated humans discover them. So, we've freed up some computing resources and we can simulate even MORE universes.

So, if there's one "real" universe and a hundred trillion simulated universes, odds are you're in a simulated universe, friend-o.

There's nothing quasi-mystical about this. It's taken very seriously in the scientific community.

>>174991549
spiritualist xenophobe obviously

>>174991549
Mods, lad.

Either that or stop trying to be so boring and generic by wanting to play 40k.

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>>174990380
Aaaaan they're gone. RIP war in heaven.

>>174991695
I cant find the mod archive in the OP, I guess most of the mods are updated yet
Anyway the biggest fun I had in a videogame in my life was RPing as IoM so I guess that says something. At the time I just used the government and ethics mod which pretty much has IoM goverment type but it´s not updated for utopia

>>174990463
Do you have the Mass Effect one where instead of using the Mass Relays we uploaded our species into Synths and stayed in the sol system?

>>174991626
It's only an explanation for hidden variables, not fact.

>>174992240
I didn't say it was a fact? It's just a very convincing hypothesis that's extremely difficult to disprove and has some real evidence that lends it support.

The point is, it's not quasi-mystical. It's a hypothesis based on reason, statistics, and evidence. It's far more reasonable that "a wizard did it."

>>174991146
No system is perfect

>>174992481
none of ours are, but perhaps their's are

Warp is shit. Takes months to get anywhere. No ability to respond to enemy activity.

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Is there literally any downside to this because I'm really not seeing it

>>174992579
>play multiplayer, wormholes
>declare war on another play
>they destroy your wormhole stations
>gg
Warp is the only viable multiplayer FTL

>>174992085
Havent even read that one

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>>174989959
>Conquer F. Materialists
>Within 50 years the vast majority of their species has converted to my religion

>>174992684

It's only really for stockpiling more food for when a food producing planet goes under. Means it'll take less time for you to run out of food while a new source is made/found.

>>174991626
>But, our simulations don't have to be THAT accurate. If we're doing an ancestor simulation, simulating earth millenia ago, we don't need to do a full simulation of galaxies billions of lightyears away, or even stars hundreds of lightyears away. A lot of things we could simulate on the fly as or simulated humans discover them. So, we've freed up some computing resources and we can simulate even MORE universes.
There's a novel about that called Phase Space where they deliberately break the simulation by firing a laser pulse outside the limit of the simulated universe earlier than the designers intended

>>174992684
There's no real advantage or disadvantage to any stockpile size. The only thing you have to consider is what your food income is and how long it will take you to hit the cap again to get the pop growth bonus.

>>174992684
Literally no reason to put it on anything other than minimal.

>>174992708
>play multiplayer, wormholes
>war
>both players can destroy wormhole stations
>infrastructure becomes important, encouraging players not to doomstack
Wormholes are the only viable multiplayer FTL.

>>174989959
>Develop psychic abilities
>Develop methods and technology utilizing these abilities
>Talk to other worldly spirits and literal gods
>All of this can be demonstrated by scientific method
>"s-stupid spiritualists won't ever understand t-true euphoria"

the only thing i got out of this is materialists are fedora tier retarded

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>>174992830
>>174992843
>>174992898
But if there's literally no downside to making your food cap 5000 why wouldn't you?

>>174992898
>agreeing to faggy house rules

>>174992549
It is statistically likely to decay on epic timescales even if it had no bugs at the start purely because of entropic decay

>>174991626
>>174992841
Yeah, the simulation isn't accurate. For example, you guys barely exist, all you need to be is lines on my screen, your extended family and shit doesn't need to be simulated at all times.

>>174992953
Because trying to hit 5000 food when you're making 5 food, even 10 food a month would take forever and you'd lose literally dozens of free pops empire wide in that time from the lost growth bonus.

>>174992953
Your growth will slow while a stockpile that you will never need fills up.

growth now, growth later
vs
stockpile now, growth later

minimal is the objective superior choice.

>>174993007
How is that house rules?

>>174992953
no pop growth while it stockpiles
stockpiling is a good idea in case your food world manages to get occupied

>>174993056
You don't even need to really simulate more than a few thousand real people, the rest could easily be the equivalent of npcs

>>174993102
>>174993172
OH
Food surplus increases growth
there it is

I don't understand the alphamod.
What is all those new resource shit?

>>174993207
Yeah, just scripts, not AIs.

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>>174992953
because it never goes below 200 once you reach that anyway, and if you bump it up you're missing out on growth bonuses until you get back to the increased cap, it's as pointless as building mineral silos.

>>174993013
Again, you're making the massive assumption that anything about the real universe is like our own, or that we're even on an epic timescale.

>>174993056
>you, main character of the Simulation

>>174992953
You'll kill growth. Food going into the stockpile isn't going to pop growth. Only time stockpiles may be worth it if you have your *every single planet* full of pops already and don't plan to expand for a really good while. And even then it's pretty useless because I assume you aren't planning on losing all your food producing planets in one go.

>>174993231
No it's the opposite of that, less stockpile means faster growth

>>174993285
It's pointless, don't use it. Alphamod a shit. SHIT.

>>174993304
i think mineral silos are worth the adjacency bonus and the expanded cap might hekp building meme-structures

>>174993172
>wormhole only

>>174993293
Could great man theory be real

>>174993207
Well, it really depends on what you're trying to accomplish with you're simulation.

>>174993285
They're new strategic resources. What are you confused about? The nice thing about AlphaMod is that it adds a type of economy between planets and buildings. E.g., you build an Intelligence Agency that gives you 4 Intel as a strategic resource, and then sensor arrays use Intel as maintenance cost.

Shame AlphaAsh is an autistic fuck and his mod integrates horribly now and he refuses to change anything because it's all Paradox's fault they just don't care about THE MODDERS

>>174993285

AlphaMod is Radious tier garbage that is only popular because it's popular. It adds nothing of substance, lots of clutter, arbitrary bloat, and the creator is a criticism ignoring drama queen.

test

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I finally managed to play long enough into the game I'm starting to worry about endgame crises.

I just killed a FE and I'm putting jump drives on my shit.

When the Unbidden pop, does this look like a decent fit to take them? Or should I swap the plasma out for Kinetics?

>>174993505
radious?

>>174993471
>>wormhole only
That's a built-in feature of of galaxy generation. Not house rules.

>>174993304
I'm sure there's others, Anon, don't worry.
>Implying you're even capable of worrying for real at all. :o)

>>174993615
you need more missiles

>>174993618
He's a Total War modder that makes really bad but popular mods. Essentially he fills the games with "ebin" Micheal Bay Hollywood tier shit that the community eats up.

I am actually the one being simulated and you are all NPCs.

>>174993618
Modder for the Total War series. Adds a ton of pointless units counter to the spirit of the original faction.

>>174993615
How big is your fleet power? If you've already crushed a FE there's a good chance you can anti-climatically swat the crisis the moment it appears before letting it snowball.

>>174993505
>>174993472
>>174993406
Why is there so much butthurt towards that mod?

>>174993304
I think there is a faction that wants large food stockpile

>>174993618

It's a huge total conversion mod for Total War games. Started off small, got a monopoly, now is nothing but pointless fluff that doesn't fit historically or in Warhammer's case, in the lore. The creator's an idiot, has no idea how to balance his creation and touts the mod as being difficult but is in fact much easier than vanilla in every case.

He started off good for Shogun 2, but as time went on, people only download because "Well, I enjoyed it for the previous game, might as well grab it" and so his popularity grows and grows while the mod's quality continues to go down.

>>174987393
NSM?

>>174993784
is it funny bad or just utter shite

>>174993865
Have you read any comments by the author? Believe me, he's more butthurt than all of us combined.

>>174993947
If he just kept to units and didn't touch game balance it would just be funny cheese bad.

>>174993905

I keep forgetting he changed the name. It's New Ship Classes & More, either NSC or NSM.

>>174994027
oh does he make the vanilla units unusable shit to make his own units look cooler

>>174993865
I tried alphamod back when it first came out.
I thought it showed promise but he was trying to do too much and make it too big in such a way that it bloated the fuck out of the game. It had the potential to be really good if he trimmed the fat as it were. I gather he went the other way though.

>>174994157
what was his original goal even?
I tried playing it when 1.3 came out but I've not read any of his forum messages or whatever

>>174993860
Sitting at about 100k and expanding as fast as I can get minerals/buy them.

>>174993996
So you just have a personal issue that makes whyever the mod bad?

>>174994157
Vanilla Stellaris is still pretty empty and boring. Nothing wrong with anything that adds at least a little.

>>174994093
Sometimes. Other times he just does shit like give Rome OP horse archers "to make the roster more balanced" when there was a reason both balance wise and history wise that rome didn't cosplay as mongols, or his peak creations MOUNTED NODACHI ASHIGARU NINJA CAVALRY (heavy infantry)

>>174994093

In Warhammer's case, he takes away every faction's identity and niche.

Vampire Counts are all about monsters, fodder, flying monsters, cavalry, stuff like that. They have no artillery or ranged units. So, Radious added ranged units. That's the worst example.

Another is Bretonnia. A faction with 2 castes: Peasants and Nobility. Nobles believe the ground is beneath them, and never set foot on it, and so they all ride horses or flying mounts. Peasants make up the general fodder infantry, like swordsmen, archers, etc.. So, Radious adds Dismounted Knights and Dismounted Knight Archers.

He's a hack.

How do I know when a mod has been updated? Will it be good again in my list or do I have to redownload it?

I just want my blue UI back.

>>174994357
>So you just have a personal issue that makes whyever the mod bad?
No. His mod is bad because he can't take criticism and constantly flips his shit if people criticize him. Most of the content in the mod is half-baked at best, and he insist on trying to revert certain mechanics to the way they worked several game versions ago because "Paradox hates modders and they can't make games."

Frankly he's an idiot and his ideas are bad. The only reason his mod is popular is because it was one of the first big mods back when Stellaris had even less content than it did now. People had nothing else to eat, so they ate shit. Popularity perpetuates popularity with these kinds of things.

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What are planet unique buildings that should build on every colony aside from

>>174994585

You can just download the mod and edit the .mod file in My Documents/Paradox/Stellaris/Mod with notepad then change the supported version to 1.5.1

It'll take a while to go through all the .mod files to find the one you want.

>>174994616
Why don't you critisize his mod insteed of his person?

>>174994357
would you download a mod that adds nothing but a button you have to press 100 times every hour or else your ship upkeep increases?

>>174993897
Darthmod is better

>>174994770

Paradise Domes
Visitor Centers
Autochthon Monuments
Temples

all totally worth the unity GAINS

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New to Stellaris, how i make a proper space C'thullu to enslave the galaxy, women for tentacle rape men as livestocks?

>>174994770
>not building only energy, mining and research exclusive planets no matter the tile boni

noob pleb

>>174994770
UNITY

>>174994770
you shouldn't build mineral processing plants on every planet, you do with energy grids because of unity and the capital adjacency+ inherent energy production.

>>174994770
any building that gives you harmony.
it's possibly the single most important resource to get since most of the benefits it gives you are borderline broken.

>>174994928
Is that a good idea?

>>174994908
You better have written a bio lad

>>174995113
add up the 20% bonuses + all the tiles + tier IV mineral/energy buildings and compare to if you followed tile bonuses

I always follow research tile bonuses tho

>>174995113
no it's terrible,
this isn't galciv, creating exclusive worlds is terrible because adjacency bonuses are nearly non existent.

>>174994908
>as livestocks
>game literally has comfort slaves

You failed already

>>174995113
It's the best you can do except for >>174995280 research bonuses.

>>174994802
m8, I just did. He tries to revert lots of mechanics, which is bad because it conflicts with other mods and generally hurts the way AlphaMod interacts with the game.

Many of the features are unrefined because he refuses to take criticism. For example, his strategic resources generally have very little utility and have glaring issues, like the supply chain with biomatter.

And since he modifies vanilla files (that he really doesn't need to modify), it conflicts with other mods. And he considers mod incompatibility to be the problem of other people, despite his horrible modding practices.

It's a hacked together, poorly thought-out mess. If you want more, go play it yourself fagshit.

>>174995297
are you forgetting the +20% resource bonuses from nexuses and processing, and 10% science output bonuses you can get from governor and observatory?

Not adjacency, they're even better

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>a third FE awakens
>war in heaven actually fires
>my long time best bud hive mind signs up with one of the AEs
>I lead the league of non aligned powers
IT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO GO LIKE THIS BUGS. IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ME AND YOU AGAINST THE GALAXY I NEVER WANTED TO HURT YOU. WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL THOSE TIMES WE FOUGHT OFF THE BULLIES WHO KEPT ATTACKING YOU? WHAT HAPPENED TO THE GOOD TIMES BUGS? WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS TO US?
I'm legitimately heartbroken, we fought so many wars together just trying to survive against all the xenophobes and other bully empires around us until we finally won for good and were unchallenged in our corner of the galaxy. I'm going to miss you when I scour your worlds clean of life bugs

>>174995297
>what are edicts and science ship support

>>174995113
Calculate for yourself. It takes the max efficiency out of the edicts.

Mixed is just useless and only worth a little in the very beginning.

>>174991241
>not generating 2K+ energy/month with your spammed habitats
disgraceful

Elliptical or Spiral galaxy?

>>174995512
>not waiting until 2700 to have 12 dyson spheres and 20 research nexuses

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>F. Spiritualist
>Materialist FE awakens as The Guardian of the Galaxy because of the unbidden
>Declares war on me

>>174995597
Elliptical if you want a blob competition with no brakes, spiral if you want more contained empires and natural borders. Spiral is also kinda broken if you're of the few with wormholes and can jump arms while your opponents can't. A war could be purely offensive with no need to defend if the hyperlane/warp dude has to go halfway down the arm to find a close enough jump.

Anyway I can get the reckoning to happen? I read it has a fleet power of over 1million and I feel like thats a real challenge for an end game empire.

>>174995481
>bugs
It was meant to be

Hyperlanes only vs Wormholes only

>>174995356
thats what female slaves are for
male food
female comfort

>>174995883
>a real challenge
Just so you know all your planets, fleets and mega-structures get deleted when it arrives too and you're forced to start from scratch from a new world if there is one available

>>174995597
depends on your drive, i like spiral for hyperlane and wormholes.
elliptical is more fun on warp drive.

What's the longest you've played one game?

>>174986920
Nigga
>how it takes that much energy
E=MC^2
And C is really big even before squaring it.

>why the process [can't] be made energy efficient with technology?
Why can't you make the process of converting a gas to a solid more gas-efficient? Energy is fundamentally what the matter is made of, and it's going to take a lot of it.

Is it actually worth going fanatic purifier? I mean I can already order the cleansing of planets as a good ol fashioned xenophobe and nothing else.
>>174996009
Well ya I could force it on myself but could I make the AI spawn it can it even spawn it? I may actually make a game with the goal of spawning the reckoning then building up again to be the ultimate defeater of the death itself.

>>174996053
Close to year 3000

>>174995481
I'm sorry for your loss anon.

>>174996173
What were you doing? Just being comfy or exterminating xenos?

>>174995824
Is the spiral with hyperlane only fun?

>>174996053
I made it to 2500 as an autistic ring world dyson sphere spaming democracy. Had I actually bothered to defeat the awakened empire I could had probably pushed it to like 2550 maybe 2600. I dont see any game I play going past that.

>>174996224
My empire fell apart once in the beginning due to Prethoryn overpowering me, barely survived, rose back to power and then it fell apart again, I built it back up and then quit.

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>>174991241

>>174996320
Nice. Good on you for sticking it out, I feel like I would've quit after the first collapse.

>>174995935
answer me cowards

>>174996151
Make sure you use your 50 years to absolutely cripple everyone else then, because they'll all hate you

>>174991241

>do this
>go to war
>war goes on for longer than I anticipated
>0 energy credits remain
>slapped with a -50% fleet damage penalty

gayest system ever desu

>>174995935
Hyperworms

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>>174995795
>not being a materialist

Pleb

>>174995935
Wormlanes

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>>174995935
Hyperlanes only with ellipse is pretty good for an easy game.

You can expand really far and don't have to worry too much about long travel times.

Also chokepoints.

Anyone play with Improved Space Battles? Is it any good?

>>174995935

I don't understand why species are limited to one or two options. You should be able to research it.

>>174996731
Even the devs admit the way they did FTL was a massive mistake.

is there a mod that makes research in this game less annoying?
i hate wanting to get specific techs and essentially getting fucked by rng.
also is there ever a reason to get biological essention over robot and psionics?
both seem inherently superior.

>>174996430
Yeah, it was fun all the way through. Didn't get to the boring end game part until the very end.

It was weird how my entire population got to the point where nobody had the governing ethics because my main species had the deviant trait.

That's why my empire fell apart the second time. My economy basically crumbled from all the angry pops and my fleets got weak, got curb stomped by neighbors until I released all my sectors as vassals. There was a cool power struggle after my vassals got their militaries together, because I had half a galaxy at my prime and then it all suddenly became a clusterfuck of empires.

>>174996053

2500 to finish a Dyson Sphere, long after I had conquered a Fallen Empire and defeated the Unbidden.

>>174995481
bugs are shit
and spiders are the niggers of the bug world

>>174996524
>Unbidden eat up "western" half of their empire and their fleets while I conquer the "eastern half"
How can I lose when even the Shroud's little brother is on my side?

>>174996731
Swords of the Stars uses different FTL mechanics for the factions and they are fine, don't they?
Is just Paradox being Paradox

>>174996785
>essention

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fun start

>tfw keep falling for the hyperlane meme

>>174996785
Theres a console command to refresh the tech choices. I can't remember what it is though.

>>174996890
please don't hurt my feelings.

>>174996902
Comfy

>>174996882
I think part of the issue with Stellaris is each FTL choice feels like its punishing you rather than rewarding you.

>>174996902
Is it possible to jump between the arms with the upgraded warpdrive or only with hyper/worm?

>>174996785
Gene modding is one of the most broken mechanics in the game m8

>>174997118
with warp 3 definitely

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>>174996902
Hyperlanes are the best FTL

Prove me wrong.

>>174996902
Is that 1000 stars? Don't you get lag late game?

>>174996835
Approaching 2400 and the only problem I'm having now is the other half of the galaxy has come for my anus because I've exterminated every empire I've met.

>>174996481
Agreed
You should have just left stranded unable to move or fire your weapons

>>174997160
You'll get fucked if you're not playing hyperlane only.

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>Wormhole Empire
>Declare war on hyperlane empire
>Between the two of us there's an empire with closed borders to both of us
>Wormhole hop over their territory and bully hyperlane empire with no risk of retaliation

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>>174997478
>bullying hyperlanes

>>174997478
>yfw they declare war on closed borders and Hitler their way through Belgium.

>>174997478
>Can wormhole hop over territory
>Can't jump over territory

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Well this is interesting ive never found a space primitive species before. Not only that they are in my borders have a 25 space planet and the system is good to. Im also a xenophobe and ice planets are the wrong type. Im thinkin uplift into annexation long term get my race on that planet. Or uplift into cleanse long term terraform what do you guys think?

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>immortal chosen one spark of genius scientist

It's not bad.

>>174998109
Well, whatever you're going to do, do it quickly, as there's a non-zero chance they'll discover FTL on their own and become a regular civilization.

>>174998159
You should have given all those Shroud drugs to an Admiral

>>174997232
Would be better if they started to disband or desert

>>174998297
I looked on the wiki they wont advance for 100 years so it will happen eventually but I do have some time.

>>174998382
Scientist was the only one that had any real chance, I don't want my worm-blessed 5 star admiralbro to die of an OD although he's like 140 years old now so soon I will cry

>Peacefully observe pre-FTL ayys for 100s of years
>They reach space
>Immediately declare war and annex

Welcome to space how tough are ya?

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>unbidden spawns
>everyone decided it's the perfect time to declare war on each other

there are at least 4 wars going on now
also remember that poor little united nations of earth who got stuck inside a xenophobic FE?
>unbidden harvested an FE planet
>xenophobic FE declared war on earth again
>sol under siege from both FE and unbidden
>earth about to be harvested

>>174998540
Would it not have been easier to just invade at early space? The penalty is tiny.

>>174998540
This is what awaits humanity

>>174998539
They can also transform into a 50K shroud entity and try to kill you

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>>174998667
What if the aliens are friendly and we are the bad guys?

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Are city building games welcome?

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>>174998109
>>174998297
HAHAHAHA ARE YOU FUCKIN KIDDIN ME? Welp looks like they wanted genocide and were in one hell of a hurry to get there works for me I guess.

>>174997478
>hyperlane declares war on wormhole
>only two lanes out of their territory
>sit a doomstack on each and farm victory point
Ezgame ezlife

>>174990785
you're not, you're just changing the policies that can be freely changed at any time. migration/citizenship type settings, not your base ethics

>>174998965
Yeah, a pre-FTL species in the atomic or later era basically needs to be invaded and annexed immediately if you don't want them to either all kill themselves or get to space.