/civ4xg/ - Strategy/4X General

FUCK SPIDERS

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1st for Biological Ascention

FUCK SPIDERS

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Whats the deal with Darkest Dungeon?

I want to get it but Im seeing a bunch of reviews on steam and GOG of people with 100+ hours saying the game is shit
Was there a sudden update that ruined it forever?

Thread was on page 9, stop complaining about spiders ya lazy cunts

>>174877096
My hatred of spiders has nothing to do with that.

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>>174877000
>>174877039
YOU CAN RUN BUT YOU CANNOT ESCAPE

>>174877064
>Whats the deal with Darkest Dungeon?
Is grinding as fuck.

>>174877064
They're people that kept playing in the hope that it would improve. When DD first came out people assumed it was going to be a sort of strategic TRPG with roguelike elements. What they ended up getting over the course of updates was basically just an RNG/risk management game more similar to x-com.

It's not terrible for what it is, but there's not an awful lot of depth to gameplay either. It's pretty easy to figure out the optimal strategy for whatever you're doing and past that you basically just hope the RNG doesn't fuck you.

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>>174877000
>>174877039
>>174877096
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>>174877000
checked trips of truth

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>hyperdrives

I wish I didn't fall for this meme

I forgot to to hyperlanes only on

>>174877263
lmao

>>174877263
> H-Hyperlanes are f-f-fast guys I p-p-pp-p-pp-promise!
ahahahahaha

>>174877263
Well thats unfortunate

>>174877031
>not showing a blacked tag next to it
you had one job

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>>174877263
I fell for Hyperdrive the first time I played.

I can't play Stellaris anymore. Late game warfare is just garbage chasing small enemy fleets around the galaxy. It's more frustrating than I thought it would be.

What's a good trait mod?

>>174877618
Nice anime portrait mod, nerd.

>>174876957
Question about Stellaris

Can I fug aliens?

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>>174877618
Wew

Hyperlink stations are definitely needed

did they fuck up the cruiser/destroyer ai? all my cruisers charge in instead of destroyers, which all hang back.

>that feel when you upgrade from wormholes to jump drives
I'd appreciate wormholes more if they weren't such a chore to maintain.
>have to renew agreements every so often
>can't use their wormholes if they use them
>can't quickly queue building them, have to manually visit each system
Real nice "game" you have there, paradox.

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>>174877668
Don't worry, I kept ayyys in my game for a while. Sadly, they all died by accident but a bomb landed on their capital.

>>174877703
I just wish I could make my own lines. I hated Swords of the Stars, but it had some very nice ideas.

>>174877703
Or a hyperlane builder ship, expensive and travels at STL speeds between unlinked systems but once it's finished the route it creates a new hyperlance. Higher levels of hyperlane tech speed that ship up and improve its range. Boom hyperlanes are something other than shitty warp again.

>>174877703
> Hyperlink stations
They're called wormholes. Try them some time. granted each type has its ups and downs but warp is just nice.

>>174877842

>You will never live in an (insult)-free world

>>174877839
guess youre not an advanced player then

>>174877937
Hey, shut up, (insult), your mother suck (genitalias), and I (respectfully disagree).

>start a new game of civ
>spawn in tundra, gut tells me to look a round for a few turns before settling
>the gamble pays off, loads of deer and copper on tundra tiles, FULL AESTHIC location
>snag Dance of the Aurora
>by turn 50 my only city outpreforms half of the fledging empires, 3 raging barbarian camps near a CS for insure steady science and culture and a solid alliance,
>literally perfect start, famille
>get greedy and focus on the lower end of the techtree for them phat wonders and cothon
>suddenly, a religion is founded
>realise I've completely forgotten about it and would get rekt if my pantheon were to be renounced
>45 turns til next GP @ max faith output
>PANIC.tiff and scramble to reseach stuff
>after an agonising effort only miss out by 2 turns after 25 turns
Ideas have unhinged the gates of empires. The future is as bright as your faith.

Anybody ever had a fallen empire beat the shit out of an awakened empire? I just did and I don't know what to think.

Also why does the word 'CALLE' constantly pop up in the captcha.

>>174878395
>CALLE
You might want to save your game.

There's no reason to put engines on battleships right? Waste of power and they hardly move anyway so whatever shoots them is gonna hit.

>inb4 spam cruisers instead

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>>174878468
>There's no reason to put engines on battleships right

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>can finally take resources out of the sector stockpile
Thank god.

>STL speeds

>hyperlane ship traveling to Talath system, ETA 435220.04.02

>>174878530

I mean like ion thrusters, stuff like that. The things that give movement speed.

>>174878596
Unless you want satellites, you better put some.

>>174878539
Is that a mod, or a beta for next update or what?

>>174878664

both

>>174878564
99% of C is still STL. Hell you could keep it FTL just still slow as balls compared to regular hyperlanes because it's having to carve the lane out ahead of it rather than just travel. A multi year voyage by a ship to create new hyperlanes would be fine either way.

>>174878664
For 1.6. We're also getting ruined megastructures spawn sometimes that can be repaired for significantly less cost than building one from scratch. I like it.

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What does Whispers in the Void do to you? I've never met this warp entity before.

>try to do the tech rush meme by staying in one planet until 2222
>get cucked by neighbours taking 20+ sector planets

>>174876957
Can some kind anon please post that Science Habitat chart? I need to know the diminishing returns to know when's a good time to stop.

>>174877064
Here is an autstic video that will explain everything about the game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Buwei6ZWqU

>>174878789
>listening to agrarian idyll inwards perfection PSC shitters

>>174878721
Is there any word on if they're going to change the viability of megastructures?

Right now the only ones worth building are habitats, right?

Dyson spheres and ringworlds seem like a huge investment for little gain

Is there a mod that allows you to automate constructor ships? This shit is real fucking tedious now.

>>174879034
No word that I've seeb. But honestly ring worlds aren't too bad since they're habitats on crack, less efficient from a minerals/time perspective but still pretty good. Dyson spheres and the nexus just suck enormous amounts of dick.

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Winning my first war with AE.

God damn it feels so good to wipe their smug attiude after so many years.

My purging meme-empire of homicidal squid-like edgelords is in the full rape mode,Ancients lost 3 worlds for now.

I kinda feel that my blitzkrieg will be halted though, I only encountered 1 55k fleet. Are they gathering strenght and the doomstack whill come to fuck me up or I just got lucky since War in Heaven is in motion and they are spread to wide on multiple fronts?

>>174878726
In one of my games it gave me science,
then later it gave me 200 unrest on a habitat when everybody onboard went mountains of madness on each other.

Overall a good deal, would do again.

>>174878997
I heard stories of memesters reaching FE tech levels before the end of the first century, how do they do it?

>>174879034
>>174879096
Oh but we are getting a new tech to terraform inhabited worlds. So that's nice.

>>174879138
Huh, does it only call in the price once or is it going to cause mass die off consistently?

>>174879260
>new tech to terraform inhabited worlds
neat. what's it called? are you gonna have to temporarily displace the population or no?

How would you feel about an event chain where you're invading a post atomic (or early space age) primitive world and basically they end up crushing your invading force because they have the EDF?

>>174879282
Ecological adaptation. Pre-sentients will die and pops that fall under the 40% minimum will be displaced once it's finished. Nothing happens until it finishes though.

>>174879285
Fucking stupid, there is no conceivable way a pre space flight force could beat a space empires invasion force. All you would have to do is park a warship in orbit and you instantly win, if the primitives somehow destroyed it you could just send another one, even a single corvette would dominate the planet.

>>174879285
You mean like the XCOM event?

>>174879449
Today we celebrate our independence day

>>174879285
> EDF
So they have tiberium? Sounds like fun desu.

> You will never destroy a world with a mineral extracting super plague

Can someone explain how Wormholes work and how they're countered to me like I'm five?

This fucking spiritualist fag keeps using wormholes in systems that don't even have stations

Does he only need a station on one end of the trip, and he can get there from anywhere?

>>174879581
Start a new game.
Pick wormholes.
Play for 5 minutes.

WEW that wasn't hard now was it?

>>174879581
Wormholes can only go to or from a system with a station. So if he's in a system with a station he can go to anywhere in range, if he isn't he can only go back to a system that does have a station.

>>174879581
Wormhole stations generate a wormhole to any system withon range so yes they only need a station on one end. They're countered by being really easy to pick off with small raiding forces of corvettes.

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>>174876957
Does anyone know a console command or something that lets you spawn a new Trading Enclave? The one I was using got rekt by a Wraith and now I'm energy capped with not so much to dump it on

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>>174879449
>he actually believes that

>>174879180
Why would you want to do that though?
The only ounce of fun the game has is your initial expansion.

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>>174879768
*unzips towed asteroid*
heh.....nothin personel.....primitive....

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>>174879581
Big circle is range of station
basically you warp to any system within its range, except you have to start FROM the station's system

It has no winddown (cooldown after you warp in), but there's a charge time before the jump

Techs increase the range and decreases the time for the jump

>>174879861
woah nice art friend can I make a commision

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Ok.

>>174878986
>heroes that you use for the final dungeon automatically leave you
WHAT

>>174879861
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>>174879651
thanks guys

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Thanks Paradox

>>174880051

Unusually bright star is the best event desu

>>174880104
That ain't right at all. They just refuse to go back to the final dungeon because it's that fucked up a place.

>>174878986
>30 minutes
this better be worth it

>>174880104
The little windows says they refuse to work at all after all.

>>174878468
Your entire fleet will be slowed down by them if you do this. Your fleet only moves as fast as its slowest member

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>gsg_applies_for_job.jpg

>>174880324
good point m8, thanks for that.

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>conquer a huge part of an enemy empire
>start processing them to tasty food
>call the sector "happy meat"
>suddenly they get the unrest event "this too shall pass" which basically turns them into non-violent resistance loving fucks

Okay buddy, I will put a "happy pacifist" sticker on your ribs when they're sold at the super market.

What ship designs are good against Unbidden?

Should I just follow the fleet designs in the OP or does something change vs them?

>>174880543
just spam kinetics lol

>>174880543
spam missile corvettes

Any point in lasers?

what kind of weapons do materialist FEs use

>>174880674
Weaponized autism

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>>174880664
Aesthetics.

>>174880674
the same as every other FE

>>174880820
which is what

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>>174880793

>>174877263
It would probably be faster to sublight your way there.

>>174880820
energy weapons and strike craft

>>174880916
>>174880838

>>174880916
Not him but I have the same dilemma. For taking on the materials FE I should invest heavily in flak and armor instead of shields?

>>174880992
Thanks pham

>>174879581
>how they're countered
Corvettes.

Build a little strike team of 3-5 corvettes and just go around blowing up his wormhole stations. The AI won't build a defense platform/fortress next to their like you should do when you use wormholes.

>>174881048
Plasma, Kinetic Artillery and Flak is all you need
Throw in a few Neutron Torpedoes corvettes

>>174877618
>CPU Zheng he
I'm gonna drag you off the plane

>>174880793
Mass drivers are more asthetic than lasers. Lasers look silly; all those weak little beams of light.

Missiles are probably the most asthetic, if they were smaller and flew faster.

>>174879093
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=691008512

Lets you automate mining/research stations, building upgrades, and more.

>>174881048
flak is good, but I wouldn't say a heavy investment is necessary. And no, shields are still a priority.

Do you goys think mass-suicide can crash this amusing simulation?

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>>174881174
Stellaris doesn't do mass drivers justice, they should have more noticeable effects.

>>174881184
my hero, thanks bud

>>174880515
>Image
Obviously god did it, silly materialists.

So how do you guys use your habitats? Just to replace frontier outposts? Pick any resource-rich uninhabitable system and fill every single planet with them? Spam a bunch in every inhabited system despite you having a colony?

>want to dick around with bio-path
>tech just wont show up

Fucking bullshit

>>174881475
ENERGY

>>174881764
I get that part, I just meant how and where you build them.

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>muh equality

I thought the xenophobic trait would fix that but no, every democratic government must be like Sweden

>>174881130
>>174881238
Nice thank you guys. Quick question: Isn't the armored torpedo better than the neutron one since it bypasses shields?

If I use neutron torpedoes should I still employ full disruptor/full plasma cruisers?

>>174881834
That happens in my nation too despite us being xenophiles. People demand democracy for no reason.

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oh fug

>>174881475
>replace frontier outposts
They would be a really good replacement if they could have a spaceport around them for protection. They would be even better if they had huge cannons attached to them, like they would have if anything ever made sense in Stellaris.

>>174881910
I am a democracy AND I have free movement as well as no force resettlement
They are mad I am displacing some Spiritualist Fungi that started the war in the first place and that I am not taking refugees

>>174881834
>born equal
How can anyone be born equal when there's an actual list of species traits showing some are more intelligent or stronger or uglier than others.

>>174881780
In already settled systems with a high amount of planets. If you put them in sectors, doing it in systems with high amounts of planets is extremely important. One governor on a fuckton of habitats = shitloads more science, assuming science governor.

>>174881860
neutron better because it will destroys shields faster which will make your plasma much more effective much sooner

>>174881860
Neutrons can't be targeted by point defense; armored can. PD is why missiles are beyond the worst weapon in the game right now.

>>174882097
I cant wait to finally get the fucking required tech for bio-ascension and start lobotomizing those fucking idiots

>>174879285
While it might be interesting the first time it would just become a mild annoyance every other time it pops up.
There would be no actual challenge because there is no way a PRE-FTL Empire could actually stand up to you.

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Is it just me or do fungoid ships look a lot like gallente ships?

I just wish their spaceport and fortresses didn't look so daft.

>>174882294

Yeah, one of their cruiser or battleship combinations looks like the Proteus. It's why they're my favorite ship types.

>>174879285
Maybe the event should have them uploading a virus to your computers that disables all your shields, then they start using their little planes like missiles and your entire fleet gets wiped out.

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>>174881834
>play fanatical purifiers
>faction wants me to ban slavery
>were okay with purging

As I checked now they got more points and are against purging too, but in the earlier stages they were okay with it.

>mfw finding out about Matter Disintegrators
isn't this pretty much Plasma on steroids? Shouldn't I use that?

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Stellaris feels so easy compared to pre-Utopia. It's like they added all the ascension / traditions bonuses without any thought into how it would affect things. You soon become far more powerful than any ai and unstoppable from just playing normally without any skill. I've never had to care about happiness or factions at all too.

Utopia is one of the worst and most lazily done dlcs I've ever seen from Paradox. There's still bugs and problems left over from the previous version they didn't fix, obvious ones. The ai is still shit even if you make it cheat. The combat is still shit, missiles are worthless. The precursors events are still bugged. This is their full-time job, seriously?

Every "addition" in Utopia feels like a mod some spanish guy made on the workshop. The only thing that isn't mod level quality is the dyson sphere megastructure model, but even that doesn't do anything unique in-game. All the megastructures are useless with the exception of habitats which are a patch-material level of an addition. All the end-game ascension things are so fucking bland and lazy, just mod-tier out the ass, with the exception of the shroud but that's basically a glorified curator enclave that gives random stat bonuses. I can't believe they charged half the full game's price for this and I pity those who actually bought it.

>>174881834
>not being authoritarian
Every single equality or xenophile faggot I shove in the mines or farms.

>>174882540
Yes? The reason people don't recommend it to you is because it's end game and requires one of three crises to spawn. So by that point it rarely matters that you have better damage than plasma now.

Is Stellaris a good game to play with a friend for some comp stomp?

1. Does it run well all the way, or does it bog down after a while, like Civilization V did?
2. Does it feature situations where one player has to wait a long time for the other to complete their turn, like Age of Wonders 3 did?

>>174882540
meh it's pretty close to plasma, only slightly better damage but worse armor penetration. Once shields are down plasma is still better I would assume. Haven't run any number on it however

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Isn't this why Missiles suck? Bravo, Paradox

>Less people playing humans/humanoids.
>Xenophile significantly more popular than xenophobe
>Egalitarian more popular than Individualist.
>No real change in pacifist popularity.
>Authoritarians/Spiritualists not very popular.

Stellaris confirmed for the SJW of 4x games.

>>174882757
1. pre-utopia really slow my com when I conquer about 1/3 of the map but right now it's pretty smooth
2. it's real time

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>>174882518
Xenophobe Egalitarian empire ethos is also retarded.
>Xeno residency: OK as long as it's not full citizenship
>Xeno slavery: BAD, all the slavery options are completely greyed out
>Xeno purge: OK (even working them to death is allowed)

>>174882540
They're not very aesthetic, though. They fire a cloudy green beam at the enemy. Looks just like disruptor fire.

>>174882959
I can't give up on pacifists. That unity boost + unity civics are just too good, mang

>>174880916
That's wrong though, spiritualist ones use missiles and plasma and militarist ones use kinetic artillery and autocannons. They do all use strike craft though.

>>174882959
I'm playing a spiritualist/xenophile/militarist if it's any help.

I don't do authoritarian because I already did a slave playthrough and I wanted to be relatively morally good.

>>174883047
I honestly can't tell if all this shit is because the retarded Authocratic-Egalitarian or because the whole thing was retarded and the faction rework just show it just how.

>>174883254
you got 2/3 most picked ethics according to:
https://twitter.com/Martin_Anward/status/856497914063073280

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Research Kinetic Artillery or Mega Cannon?

>>174883493
KA
Mega Cannon a shit.

>>174883493
KA, X slots are a meme

>>174883493
Kinetic Artillery all day my nigga, put that shit on battleships AND cruisers. Destroyers too if you feel funky.

>>174882895
Nah they suck because even if they had 90% armor flak would still oneshot them. Regular PD isn't what makes missiles completely useless, although it can help turn the tide vs a missile fleet, since each PD gun only gets time for one shot before the missiles impact so unless you match them 1:1 which is impossible without hugely outnumbering the enemy. It's that flak fires from so far away it gets multiple shots off to ruin missiles shit and can be fit into all the good modules for ships since it's an M slot weapon and the overkill meme, which isn't actually as bad as the visuals suggest but still exists.

>>174883435
>Even wiz thinks authoritarian automatically should be evil
What's funny is that in my game, everyone loves the slavers, because the AI always hates your guts for going to war while not minding how much the other AI conquers and enslaves.

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>>174883493
Both, just go full retard.

>>174883707
>>174883594

Why post it twice m8

>>174883754
Because I replied to the wrong post.

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>>174883493
>>174883707
Giga cannons are great and all They're not really that good but like all XL weapons they're fun for waving your dick in lesser races faces. But why not go full retard, get mods, and use terra cannons?

>>174883754
he replied to the wrong post ya dingus

>>174879134
Less spaceports = less ships
Less ships = less powerful doomstack

The moment you take their core worlds and at least 25-50% of their territory they're fucked.

>>174881475
I like to imagine them as comfy self sufficient communities.
One paradise dome
Two agricultural districts
Four solar panel plants
The leisure district
Two laboratories
One Temple

>replying to the wrong post
>replying to posts at all

>>174883707
this build is confirmed one of 2 best endgame battleship loadouts

otherwise focused arc and matter dissintigrators if you for some reason don't want to turn a 1:2 fight into a 2:1 fight before they can even shoot you once

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Hey guys

I researched Jump Drives and the Unbidden spawned to my "south", where a weak friendly faction was. They started pushing their shit in, so I decided to cruise over with my 50k stack. I defeated the first wave but they just keep coming. I decided to scout out their portal and HOLY SHIT THEY HAVE LIKE 5 60K FLEETS THERE AND THEY DON'T STOP

I can't just shit out 60k fleets like nobody's business, and I'm afraid they'll get stronger by preying on all the weak fucks in the galaxy (my fleet is the strongest one I think, the others have weak fleets that they keep suiciding into the Unbidden)

Am I fucked? Should I reload a save from before I finished researching Jump Drives until I'm ready? Or is it salvageable?

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>>174883435
>https://twitter.com/Martin_Anward/status/856502924117200896
>Authoritarians/Spiritualists not very popular
I get Authoritarian since it kinda sucks but Spiritualists? I'd figure that between the bonuses and access to Psionics it will be pretty popular.

>>174883803
What mod?

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>>174883835
cute

also these CALLE captures are getting out of hand

>>174883894

Fight them you pussy

>>174883803
Is this the mod with the new ship classes just being the base ones stitched together?

>>174883894
50k fleet can win the entire event

maximize shields, and kinetic long range weapons. they only have shorter range weapons witrh %100 armor ignore

>>174883707
50k worth of this battleship will easily kill 100k unbidden

>>174883968
B-but how? I have like 300 mineral income and can't possibly mass produce 60k fleets if they're going to keep reinforcing at this pace, and I'm literally the only thing standing between them and the galaxy, the others are even more of a pushover

>>174883948
CALLE AVENIDA

>>174883435
>Egalitarian = Good Goys
Why am i not surprised?

>>174883932
Remember Paradox''s audience. Despite the team themselves having a really weird love of religion, most of the really politically leftist types that play their games and run around on their forums despise religion more than anything except themselves.

>>174884027
A-Alright, I'll give it a go

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>>174883932
Paradrones confirmed for fedora tippers

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>>174883803
Why bother with terra cannons when you can just outfit a fleet of battleships with ivory lances?

>Warp into system full of unbidden
>After what feels like several flashbangs being tossed into your screen, your ships remain victorious and unscathed.

>>174883985
>>174883936
The ship mod is that abomination yeah. Except this was like 6 months ago when it didn't have all those horrifying ships and just had scaled up battleships for supercapitals. The weapons were from https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=803816388

>>174883985
Yeah, it also replaces loading screens with ugly new ones that have the mod creators names plastered over them and adds stupidly overpowered stations that double energy/material production across entire systems (that the AI don't use, by the way).

Just use improved space battles if you want big titan ships.

>>174883932
>https://twitter.com/Martin_Anward/status/856502924117200896
>Spiritualists underpowered

Fuck off Anward. Psi shields and Psi jump drives are the shit. The benefits from the shroud in general are pretty great(except when you get terrible boons)

Authoritarian I can get but I haven't actually played around with it. May try it, idk.

>>174884136
>not posting the damage stats
Come on anon I want to see how dumb they are.

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>>174884136
Yuo are like a little babby, watch this

>>174882959
I play F. Spiritualist/Authoritarian

>>174884208
>reading comprehension
He doesn't say that anywhere, he says's there's no correlation with what people think is under OR overpowered and what they actually play.

>>174884269
is this the power of the kamehameha cannon?

>>174884142
>>174884152
Personally I use this one

No weapons, though. But ships can get auras now

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=718529178&searchtext=stellar+expansion

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>tfw no superfortress megastructure
>tfw I got another CALLE captcha

When am I allowed to release a vassal? It seems kind of random.

>AI fleet bombs the entire populace of their occupied planet to death while my fleets are away dealing with their allies
Jesus christ that planet wasn't even one of my wargoals. Now that it's gone they'll be stuck with a single system to their name after the war.

>>174883932
Spiritualists are best even without psionics.
The only way to really unite a people is under a single, shared system of belief. A global religion really could unite mankind for the first time.

Spoiler'd opinion can be disregarded freely.
As long as it didn't have loads of dodgy interpretations and lots of splinter groups and factions. And as long as it was a good religion that focused on discovery, science and improving living standards for mankind instead of assuming they already have all the answers so there's nothing to do but stagnate and die so they can go to heaven.

>>174884462
>tfw no supergun mega structure for glassing planets at long range

Sins of a Solar Empire was fucked in more ways than one mechanically but it had its fun moments.

>>174884462
I really need to watch this again

>>174884547
The AI is dumb as a sack of bricks right now

It's extremely easy to bait, making war pretty trivial if you know the first thing about ship design and keeping up in fleet size

>>174884142
Stop reminding me that I gotta give The Zenith of Fallen Empires a proper shot.

>>174884560
I play my Empire's religion like a pagan-esque interpretation of Shroud entities.

>>174884669
>now

>>174884092
>>174884126
How sad do you have to be to disregard one of the most enjoyable ethics in the game because using it means you won't be tipping your fedora at the universe?

I found the Enigmatic Fortress and then i lost it.

Is it teleporting around or am I just stupid?

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How is Stellaris when played on Multiplayer?

I can only dream of the possibilities when it comes to war and diplomacy when you're not dealing with braindead AI

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>>174884684
Im using it right now, its pretty good although there are some balance issues. Buffs the living shit out of fallen empires though so it works out when your fighting them. I havnt gotten to the parts where you can become a fallen/awakened empire yet, sounds very interesting.

>>174884816
maybe someone killed it
see if the curators still have the option of talking about it

>>174884807
I recall a post saying psionics should be avariable to materialist because they exist in universe, so they are cleary science and not believe, missing the whole point.
The whole thing is retarded because paradox decided to make spiritual-materialist a religion vs science.

>>174884895
Yes they still do.

Nobody else would be capable of killing it other than me.

>>174885139
They're kinda right since materialist FEs have tech to pitch a psychic no trespassing sign when you try to spy on them. It does seem rather beyond a regular empire though.

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Jesus christ has modding gone too far?

>>174885139
My understanding of materialism V Spiritualism is that they're philosophical opposites rather than fedoras vs bible thumpers.
Materialists definitely come across as nietzsche. Not sure what the opposite to that is though.

>>174885480
The FEs have been around a lot longer. Maybe a materialist society would eventually build detectors for psionic phenomena, and be able to shield themselves against it.
A synthetic ascension race should probably be immune to most psionic powers.

>>174885601
Those seem rare outside FE-related planets, and there's a lot of negative modifiers and some are pretty bad. It's okay in the end, I guess.

In case you didn't know, you can build the +20% EC building from Horizon Signal on Habitats. It's pretty gud.

>>174885758
Now that is fucking nice.

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>>174876957
Is Stellaris worth it now? Is it still SJW with the white people hate that was meme'd on /v/ when it came out?

Worth 20$ for the game and all DLC?

>>174885805
just pirate it you fucking faggot

>>174885805
>Is it still SJW with the white people hate that was meme'd on /v/ when it came out

It never was that m8, /v/ is just retarded.

Sure, one of the human leaders is a nigger, but it's nowhere near as bad as /v/ makes it (or anything) out to be.

>>174885601
Getting 2 precursor modifiers on a random planet is stupendously lucky, besides that city one will become useless once you develop the planet anyway.

>Play Fanatical Purifiers
>Be desert homeworld
>Conquer an Arctic planet
>Purge them

What happens now? Am I stuck with some planet I can't use? Or can I somehow get rid of it?

>continental preference
>get desert planet from war
>evict ayy lmaos
>Opportunity Edict
>Art monument
>genetically modify one of my planets for desert enviroment
>they stay on their planet with 55% habitability because I have made too good of a job on keeping my pops happy

GO YOU IDIOTS LEAVE

>>174885653
>rather than fedoras vs bible thumpers.
They dialogue choices shows materialist vs spiritualist is exactly that.
But is clear with psionics that materialist only really care about the material universe while spiritualist are more about higher or lower planes of existence

>>174885653
>nietzsche
>materialist
what, man go to /lit/ and read some shit

>>174886685
well it's right place to read some shit

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>>174886751
right read place to shit some well it's

>>174886685
The description for materialists is blah blah blah there's no value in anything other than what we choose to grant it blah blah blah
Isn't Nietzsche's shtick essentially there's no inherent value in anything so you should find your own values?

>>174886054
Populate it with robots?

>>174886054
Robots, Terraform or Modify (can Purifiers modify?

>>174886054
You lose the planet once it's purged of all life. You can then terraform it to your liking.

>>174876957
OP I forgive you for being a cultural marxist & for forcing your shitty & completely unrelated autism spiders. I'm in a good mood!

>>174887480

Oh that's awesome, thank fuck. Means I have to build frontiers though. Or just forget it exists. Thanks for the help boys.

>>174887446
>>174887036

This is what I was thinking, but one's a 25 slotter and that's what, 62 years to populate with just robots. Seems like too much effort for my lazy ass.

>>174881161
fite me 1/1 I'll fuck you up

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What the fuck do I spend these resources on?
>cant build up a fleet because a fallen empire with 300k fleet strength gets pissy when I have a big fleet and attacks me
>already building 2 ringworlds
Should I put down a bunch of habitats? Im worried about diminishing returns research wise, im using mods that add loads more tech so research is still very important at this point.

>>174888367
A fleet big enough to tell the FE to fuck off obviously.

If a kinetic artillery, M-plasma cruiser is the best cruiser, is a kinetic artillery, M-plasma destroyer an even better idea? You could field twice as many of them and their accuracy would be better.

>>174888367

Sell them to a curator then buy some minerals with the energy credits you get

>>174888484
I dont know if I can manage that, ill try though.

>AI empire spawns near xenophobe FE
>blocked on all sides by stronger normal empires
>only way is to try to expand in the direction of FE without going too close
>goes overboard everytime and gets repeatedly roflstomped

I saw this post in one of the previous threads but it's so true I can't not post it again. Literally happens in my game right now. Fucking sorry cunts.

>>174888367
Aw, man.

You're so much better at the game than I am.

What's your secret?

can you settle planets with a habitat around them

>blow up a sun
>suddenly I'M the bad guy

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>>174889280
>kill a jew
>suddenly I'M the bad guy

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>>174889224
Im playing with a shitload of mods that change things up so im getting more then I would be in vanilla.

My main tip for resource generation is to dedicate planets to minerals and use habitats for energy, make sure you stack as many +% bonii to those resources as you can on the dedicated planets/habitats. Basically late game ignore innate tile resources and just plaster planets with mines and spam energy habitats. Keep a few planets/habitats for research and food.

>tfw no one to play modded stellaris with

>>174889795
which mods?

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>open galaxy map
>puke
Flags were a mistake

>>174890193

>space weed imperium

x
d

>>174890254
dude

>>174890343
weed

>>174890397
lmao

Hmph! My governors think money grows on trees!

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>AI ships designs
You do you AI.

>buy stellaris DLC
>cannot install stellaris DLC

what did gaben mean by this

>>174890193
Is space the highest we can get?

>>174882630
no mate, it's just cause of PSC

>>174890460

What the fuck. I just took out a species with that exact portrait AND they had the same ship set ups (just higher level).

What's going on, anon? I'm scared

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>>174890193
AYY LMAO
420 BLAZE IT FAGGOT
FANATIC BAKE:IFIER

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send help

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ere we go
>calle again

>>174890460
>Implying that their design isn't actually perfect anti-you design for tickling your gaming-balls.

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>>174890578
I'm sure nothing bad will happen after you do the contact experiments.

>>174890578
What manner of weird buildings is that?
From a mod?

>>174890514
The final frontier

>>174882630
any given run with any given government is way too large of a time investment for "lol u got wiped out in 5 minutes because X suddenly happened 5 hours into your run" the game is 90% RNG based difficulty and the rest is only hard because you didnt understand how something worked.

Honestly I rarely even play any run to victory, I just enjoy developing an empire on a largest possible maps. it's comfy as fuck. - can obviously have a really small map and win/lose much faster but this isnt starcraft and i'm not looking to play a highly APM driven RTS when i start the game up

What's everybody's opener? I usually go straight for a Colony ship and then spam a few more if there are good planets near me, but it seems like that's really slow and only snowballs a couple decades after due to the penalties. My brain is always obsessed with anschluss and compels me to settle anything 16 tiles or up.

>>174883493
Theyre both good, but only when both used on the same ship against a fleet that is relying on shields and close range weapons. enjoy nuking down half their fleet before they can get close

>>174889224
>getting bullied by a fallen empire
>doing well
uhhhh

>>174890940
>Honestly I rarely even play any run to victory, I just enjoy developing an empire on a largest possible maps. it's comfy as fuck. - can obviously have a really small map and win/lose much faster but this isnt starcraft and i'm not looking to play a highly APM driven RTS when i start the game up.

I think this is the most perfect description of Stellaris I've ever read. I've never actually finished a single game of Stellaris, but I'm still enjoying it in a comfy, "no-pressure" way.

I just switched between controlling a few AI empires in my current game and I realised a problem. They all choose really retarded ascension perks, it appears to be completely random. No wonder I never see the AI building mega structures or doing ascension paths, their to busy picking +100% terraforming speed for their 4th ascension slot.

>captcha: stop ouches

>build observer post
>get implant malfuction events
>ignore it, thinking something funny might happen
>pretty much nothing happens

How disappointing

>>174876957
I unlocked the technology that gives you an extra civic slot but how do I get another civic?

>>174891335

Click your flag in the top left and click reform government

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>>174891335

>>174891335

Reform your government my dude

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>>174890761
m8 it's not that I'm not concerned
It's that I'm way too far into this galaxy to give a shit
I'm trying to get the little fuckers to rebel against the FE for shit and giggles, eventually I'll just roll everyone over by bait-and-switch with some 30 corvette fleet over and over, but I just feel like I'd rather do something entirely stupid first

>>174891439
>dreadnought
>superdreadnought

What kind of mod is that ?

>>174891439
Have you done Vanth?

>>174876957
Is uplifting a pre-FTL species a good idea if I have a shitload of planets and dont want anymore?

>>174891517
Superduperdreadnoughts when?

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>Focused on research the entire game
>My allies are all "equivalent" or "superior" in technology compared to me
>they have over a dozen or even two dozen techs that I don't have while I have less than 8 in all categories
>buy a research agreement with two of them
>Can't find any fucking techs to research that give me the 25% bonus from the agreement

What the fuck have these assholes researched to deserve to be called "superior" to me? They have T2 weapons and shit that I had like decades ago. They don't even have Tachyon Lances ffs and I've had those things for a long time. I skimmed through all the techs I have available with +2 research alternatives that I have, and out of 15 techs, after getting two "superior" empires to trade in research agreement, TWO FUCKING TECHS are what I can research and beenfit from and they're repeating shit worth nothing. Wtf is this AI researching?

They're supposed to have 20 engineering techs that I don't have.

>>174891690
Its called Monitor.

Starfire ftw

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What tech should I set my Mexican intellectual to lads? I have sentient AI, will researching droids make the robotos uppity?

>>174891765
no, only synths will.
Also get fucking impulse thrusters already

>>174891765
Ripper autocannons into flak

>>174891765
>99 planet capacity

Nice cheats my dude.

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I have 4th slot of Ascension open but I dont feel like getting anything
What do

>>174891293
For the first time I've had a primitive civ actually start to love me and change to my ethos from my aggressive interference with their people. I almost always turn them into xenophobes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFAgvYlG0fs

>>174877263
>>174877494
>>174877618
Hyperdrive is good if you turn off clustered empires and select hyperlanes only so other empires can't mess up your lanes.

It's way faster than warp that way.

>>174892054
galactic contender if you haven't already

>>174891880
Like I give a fuck, I'm not handing my planets to retarded sector AI, I'll micro every single one myself.

>>174890783
Which one?
Elysium as a planet I think is from https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=865040033
The Big Unity Building is from https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=902287752
The trading depot (2,1) and cybernetic building (4,5) are from https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=903007094
>>174891517
NSC + Improved Space Battles
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=830546181
mine is 4.0 tho, YMMV

how do i stop getting bored 50 years in?

>>174892207
m8 looking at your incomes with 34 planets the sector AI would do a better job than you, enjoy your cheat mods you clearly fucking need them.

>>174892207
Mate, just queue up the blueprint for the planet first and turn off redevelopment. Manually upgrading every single planet is just fucking tedious.

>>174892280
Try going another ascendancy route or something you nerd.

Or actually try to roleplay instead of min-maxing.

>>174892272
Is there one that only enables you to build FE-type ships, but has some requirements for their unlock?
Like escorts, battlecruisers and titans. Even if it just reuses FE models.

>>174892092
Too early desu

>>174892447
well when's your next ascendancy tech coming up?
if it's a ways away you may as well take galactic contender now, or perhaps worldshaper/imperial prerogative/the 200 navy cap one

>>174892272
>NSC + Improved Space Battles
>https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=830546181
>mine is 4.0 tho, YMMV>>

Ahh shit ... i have too many mods already.

>>174892331
Half those planets are half empty from recent genocides, I'm still the strongest power by a longshot short of the FEs.

>>174892345
I know but I just scroll through once a year or so and upgrade 2-3 things each planet.

>>174892345
How do I turn off sector redevelopment?

>>174891518
Thanks for reminding me

>>174892705
by clicking on it and removing the checkmark
>>174892383
Not that I know of
>>174892554
>i have too many mods already
I don't think anyone can ever have "too many mods"
You can have conflicts, you can have incompatibility issues
but too many mods? pfftttt

>>174892554
NSC is shit anyway.

>>174881475
>So how do you guys use your habitats?
Fill them with either science or energy. Anything else is stupid.

>>174892530
I have 12 worlds and I am feeling like stopping so maybe I get the 200
On the other hand the second tech for bio-ascension is nowhere to be seen and I cant get a scientist with Biology expertese to ramp up the probability

>>174886054
>>Play Fanatical Purifiers
>>Be desert homeworld
>>Conquer an Arctic planet
>>Purge them
>Not picking Extremely Adaptive.

>>174893608
wow, my 20% habitability goes up to 40%. Thanks anon, totally the 4 trait points!

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>>174892530
>>174893569
Forget it, meme magic intervened

>>174893608
Enjoy your [species]-superior events.

>>174878986
>Here is an autstic video that will explain everything about the game.
holy shit what a sook. there's a comment chain further down where his crying about a character death just gets DEMOLISHED.

I'd hate to see him play FTL.

Between FTL & XCOM I've decided anyone who whines about "RNG" for any well designed & balanced game is just a shit gamer. Same as scrubs who cry about campers in FPS games, or getting rushed in an RTS.

>>174892272
Elysion is from Leviathans Expanded (LEX) No?

Extremely adaptive is the goat trait.

>>174894127
Yes.

>>174893854
Did you even watch the video? The point isn't that hurr rng is always bad, it's that you have to waste hours to train a level 5 character who can be killed in one turn due to crits and there's nothing you can do to prevent it no matter how good you are at the game. At the point you're using level 5's the lower level dungeons are so easy that it is just tedium.

>he fell for the extremely adaptive meme

>he didn't fall for the extremely adaptive meme

>>174894276
>>174894189
Is it actually worth it or is it quite literally a meme?

>>174894276
>he fell for [positive trait] meme

>>174894276
What the fuck is possibly superior to extremely adaptive?

>>174894228
>Did you even watch the video? The point isn't that hurr rng is always bad, it's that you have to waste hours to train a level 5 character who can be killed in one turn due to crits and there's nothing you can do to prevent it no matter how good you are at the game. At the point you're using level 5's the lower level dungeons are so easy that it is just tedium.
Yeah. He whines it takes hours and hours to re-level but someone who looks far more knowledgeable says he just hasn't upgraded enough base stuff and isn't using the right equipment.

>>174894385

Settling a planet with <80 habitability isn't worth it m8, +35% pop growth time is extremely hampering. Not to mention the traits you could have picked.

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>>174894385
intelligent

>tfw to intelligent

>>174894325
depends on your species, if you're hivemind or xenophobic/not letting xenos in it can be pretty good especially in early game. Late game it's kind of pointless because you've got lots of tech that ups habitability

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>>174894496
>not erudite

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brrrrrrrt
someone should mod in a brrrrrrt sound effect to autocannons
>captcha: Murdoch ZONE

>enigmatic fortress
>stellar devourer
>dimensional horror

>all in my borders

This gon be gud, never done the stellar thing before, how hard is it?

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Am I groß enough?

>>174894792
>This gon be gud, never done the stellar thing before, how hard is it?

The dimensional horror is the hardest, then the fortress, then the devourer.

The fortress has an annoying quest chain to get anything out it (just wiki it), while the stellar devourer can give you a bunch of planets in the system.

>>174894424
In the video he says he fully upgraded the town. Also equipment is pretty much a meme in dd due to all the stress penalties.
None of the above makes levelling characters faster or reduces the likelihood of getting crit death before your first turn or general scummy deaths. It's not like XCOM where you do a lot of risk management to compensate for rng, it's just luck.

>>174894902

Yeah you're good, just try to keep their fleets split with transport ship bait.

>>174877139
Spiderchan anime when

>>174894998
Do you think I can win a pitched battle right off the bat?

How do I design Federation Ships lads?

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>>174894642
>Modifying and therefore destroying your species

>he fell for the federation meme

>>174894325
>Is it actually worth it or is it quite literally a meme?

My next run I'm going to have to stop myself taking it because it makes the game too easy, because you snowball incredibly well as you have more planets, more pops, and more buildings while AI empires stagnate, and eventually you can over-run them even if your tech level is below theirs (and all it takes is one lucky piece of debris and you can end up right with them anyway).

It works insanely well for Hive Minds, and Authoritarians using Caste System. Hive Minds can ignore the happiness issues, while an authoritarian species can use Caste System and just build mines & farms on the worst habitability planets.

It's not even that bad for empires who use just regular populations, the production penalties aren't that bad.

Plus you could head down the bio ascendancy as well, it only takes 3 points to take away a negative trait and add any of the major resource traits (intelligent, thrifty, industrious, agrarian) for the pops of a new planet.

>>174895534
>KILL EBBERYONE GROOGERMANUM

>>174895532
It's fine as long as you only modify one planet with autism to focus on research.

>They all fell for the Stellaris meme

>>174877179
fuckign mission impossible nigga there

>>174895532
>Modifying and therefore destroying
alright then theseus

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>>174895405

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>killing a fallen empire
>they have the Elder Scrolls name list

this is kinda funny, the fortress on the left is called Dragonborn, south is called Horker

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>>174895659

>>174895837
Is he okay

>>174895879
All roads lead to Trajan.