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How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This day in history, April 21th:
238 – Year of the Six Emperors: The Roman Senate outlaws emperor Maximinus Thrax for his proscriptions in Rome and nominates two of its members, Pupienus and Balbinus, to the throne.
1529 – Treaty of Zaragoza divides the eastern hemisphere between Spain and Portugal along a line 297.5 leagues or 17° east of the Moluccas.
1809 – The second day of the Battle of Eckmühl: The Austrian army is defeated by the First French Empire army led by Napoleon and driven over the Danube in Regensburg.
1836 – Texas Revolution: A day after the Battle of San Jacinto, forces under Texas General Sam Houston identify Mexican General Antonio López de Santa Anna among the captives of the battle when one of his fellow captives mistakenly gives away his identity.

>News
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unHPM please come back
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Repeating my question here.
What's the obsession with playing tall in EU4? I'm not talking about the people who don't have any other option but to play tall because they're boxed in by greater powers or those who are just roleplaying, I'm talking about those who play a free city in the HRE because it's the best for playing tall or purposefully keep Prussia small to keep militarism at max.

To be able to play tall is a solution to a problem, it shouldn't be what you're striving for.
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Hearts of Iron IV is a good game.
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>>174782291
Playing tall is fun, less shit to deal with while you're still reasonably strong. It's still the best in CK2 though.
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>>174782291
blobbing is bad
the only way not to blob is to play tall
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R&I has forsaken us
>>174778901
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What´s the problem the rest of Italy and the Emperor have with Milan changing their government? Do they really have to be so autistic about them not having a monarch anymore? Over half of Italy is already filled with other republics.
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>>174782291
I don't know. When I play, I roleplay-ish and I find a natural-ish blobbing goal for my nation, and try to play tall as well.

But there are definitely some autists who think blobbing is a curse and should be illegal. Why I'm sure I don't know, but their odium for it seem endless.
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>>174782274
I remember helping him with country names.
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>>174782519
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>>174782579
>this is the ideal play and zenith of aesthetic borders according to anon 174782579
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Should I abolish slavery?
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>>174782817
This doesn't even include belgium and half of france, what the fuck
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>>174782519
>implying upsetting the balance of power is bad
Also you know it threatens every other duchy right
Just like the French Revolution
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Soryuu take note
Soryuu take note
Soryuu take note
Soryuu take note

Please add Paedophile Pirates

Soryuu take note
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Soryuu take note
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>>174782817
Well if you play germany then a nice blob is really fun. I wouldn't create those specific boarders tho.
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>>174782931
It's a work in progress, friend.
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>>174782817
>Didn't own half of France and puppet the rest.
>Didn't annex Dutch
>Didn't annex Belgium
>Didn't annex Denmark
>Didn't even annex Swiss.
And you dare call this thing a blob?
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hey guys I'mbored, let's have a discussion
Who are your favorite figures in your country's history ? Why ?
Not trolling, I just genuinely want to learn some cool stuff.
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>>174783229
>1864
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>>174783292
*5000 years harder*
I can tell you a bunch of people I hate but favorite figures are few and far between
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>>174783292
>Who are your favorite figures in your country's history ?
All my history leader in my country are either reckless 'honorable' stupid or traitor who sell his own country for comfy chair in a castle.
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>>174783292
Bismarck and the Hohenstaufens. Two golden ages and awesome men right here.
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>>174783121
>posting reddit content
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>>174782837
Pls respond.
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>>174783556
>>174782837
Generally I do. Mainly because a lot of potential slave provinces have the chance to produce gold or ivory instead.
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>>174783595
I'm talking about Vicky2 tho.
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>>174783612
Oh. Yeah, sure. Those pops can become farmers, which can in-turn upgrade into factory worker pops.
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Why does my game randomly stop doing cheevos
I'm logged in in the launcher, my computer is connected to wifi, I have no DLC on, it loaded cheevos last time
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>>174783651
Ok, thanks.
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>>174783439
Hohenstaufens were absolutely based.
I'm sorry to say my choices couldn't get more vanilla
Du Guesclin
Henry IV
Louis XIV
Napoleon

Not François I tho, he was an idiot who shoudl had listened to La Palice before trying to blob so much in taly.
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Thinking of doing a Germany run in EU4, but I don't want to do it as Grossprusseniums. I think I'd rather like to try it as Bavaria or as one of the West German countries that can form Westphalia.

What would be a good non-Prussian German country to try this as? (inb4 Ulm)
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>>174783292
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_II_of_Brazil

The one good leader in the entire history of my country.
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>>174783720
That they where. And nothings wrong with vanilla. Your country had great men too, except for the revolutiany period before Napoleon.

And on the topic of the Hohenstaufens, what was your kings name during the crusade? I heard he went too, but isn´t talked about all that much.

>>174783824
Switzerland, Bavaria, Lübeck. Or one of the guys that can form Hannover/Westphalia.
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>>174783870
>implying the Terror wasn't based
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>>174783678
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>>174783720
Isn't the French Election today?
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>>174783292
this motherfucker
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%B3zef_Pi%C5%82sudski
straight out of some fantasy book, just look at this fucking titles
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>>174783943
Yeah, the French election is ongoing as we speak.
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>>174783913
They had good intentions, but went nuts after a while. Power corrupts.

>>174783968
They are? What´s the situation?
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HELLO IS THERE SOMEONE WHO KNOWS HOW TO MOD EU4 ESPECIALLY MAP/SHADERS, 5 MINUTES OF WORK TOPS
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totally forgot about them frenchies
wonder if pen wins
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>>174782274
unHPM was the only man ever to enter this general with honest intentions
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>>174784025
Four-way race at this point.

1) Centrist guy who's come out of nowhere
2) French Republican dude who's got some controversies
3) Marine Le Pen, a right-wing candidate whose dad was widely regarded as Literally Hitler
4) Melenchon, widely considered to be a dirty commie

French elections work on a two-round system. First round is open, second round is a runoff between #1 and #2.

It's widely believed that Le Pen is going to finish in the top two in the first round, so most speculation has been about who her competitor has going to be. Melenchon is considered to be the nightmare-scenario opponent by EU fans, since both Melenchon and Le Pen hate the EU. The centrist guy is the one most widely expected to get into the top two alongside Le Pen, though.
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>>174783932
This happened to me once too. I didn't recall doing anything that should change it. But as I have understood, this can actually occur if the game autosaves at a moment when you have no internet connection, so even if you have a good wifi connection, maybe it was a moment at which you didn't have a connection?

Otherwise, did you do something with DLCs, tampering with savefiles or anything at all? I don't know. When it happened to me I was sure I had done nothing. It may just be bugged.

In any rate, there is no helping you. It has happened and you can't fix it. The savefile is ruined forever, sorry to say it.
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>>174784075
The intention to have fun?
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>>174784153
Knowing modern day election, that Centrist guy will definitely win.
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>>174783870
Thanks GermanBro, your country is amazing too! (I'm learning your language at the moment). I wish we could have stopped fighting earlier and ruled the world together.
I'm assuming you mean the second crusade ? Louis VIII the Cuck, who went there with Conrad III. Refused to help hix uncle, try to invade Damas, got rekt, rashed the country, no survivors.

>>174783943
Yes, first turn. Fuck everything.
>>174784153 is right, I'll add that I can stand the First candidate (Macron) at all. Litterally a strawman.
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Whilst the shogun feared the French moving from Africa into Asia, he happily traded with the colonists in Columbia, even being baptised
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>>174783958
I didn't know about this guy, this is amazing kek.
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>>174783292
I'm a big WWII and WWI history buff so most of my knowledge and historical figures come from that period...

William Slim,
Dougie Haig
Maj. Gen. Robert Urquhart
Lt. Gen Brian Horrocks
Montgomery
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HELLO IS THERE SOMEONE WHO KNOWS HOW TO MOD EU4 ESPECIALLY MAP/SHADERS, 5 MINUTES OF WORK TOPS
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can someone recommend a god byzantium strategy for D&T? ottomans invade me a year into the game
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>>174784523
ya hit me up
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>>174784153
>>174784304
I kind of want Melenchon and Le Pen to get in, it'd be funny as fuck to have a literal unapologetic communist and a lighter version of fascist in the running.
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>>174784523
Kill yourself you fucking faggot
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>>174784629
Same honestly. I find Mélenchon being close to 20% especially hilarious.
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>>174784614
there this ad lucem mod, worked pre 1.18 perfectly but then creator abandoned it ignoring any means of contact. only thing that is wrong with it is that map modes are not working - every single one is terrain mapmode. could you look into it? its one of the best eu4 mods and its still shit game
also i found out file behind the error is pdxmap or pdxmesh but i think its the former, deleting it just fuckes up whole map
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>>174784681
What are the results like right now, is there any result at all or have they not started counting
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>>174784758
They won't start counting for a few hours more. It's like 3pm or so in France.
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What´s the better option to attack after AE dies down? I can get Genoa after 1490 I think, but I have to go through the Papal States to reach the now independent Napels. I have an truce with all my other neighbors.

>>174784304
No, thank you. I meant the guy that went with Richard and Frederick barbarossa. And it´s a massive shared history I´m proud of. We indeed shouldn´t have fought all that much.
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>>174784758
No results until tonight.
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>>174784706
Where do you download this? It isn't on the workshop or the forums.
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>>174784304
Oh sorry. That was Phillipe Auguste. Yep, he went there to banter with Richard, got AIDS, went back to France.
After that he proceeded to BTFO the english out of France. Something violent.
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There is no possible way in EU4 that Spain can colonize the things it did IRL in the time it did IRL. Even if you are playing with 4 colonists, there is no fucking way you can have colonized Mexico, the Caribbean, Peru, La Plata, New Grenada and the Philippines by the year 1540. Totally impossible.

If history can't be replayed in the game, that means the game is bad.
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>>174785356
Then play it for the ahistorical scenario anon. It´s just as much fun if not more.
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>>174785356
Is that a challenge?
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Why is france allied to so fucking many?
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in honour of today's elections
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>>174785527
You can try but it will make you broke, because you'll need to have +10 colonies at the same time, and that costs a shitton of money. Maybe if colonies were not so expensive to mantain, it'd be more plausible
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>>174785630
There's only one question. Does bankruptcy still affect colony growth?
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>>174785356
>muh history
i actually got christopher fucking colombus as an explorer playing as denmark. but hey look! your colonial range is too small and your vassals' ports cannot be used to colonize!

he ended up dying of fucking diarrhea, never even getting to explore a single province. it took multiple decades for the "colonial range" tech to increase just enough for me to learn about the atlantic ocean.

tl;dr if you seek fun or historical accuracy uninstall.exe
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>>174785630
I think it could be doable if America had more tribes as nations, conquering instead of colonizing is faster.
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I think I overextended, I need to free some colonies to reduce infamy and eat more France
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>>174785630
Oh, this is totally doable. You are bullshitting.
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>>174785356
EU4 is pure garbage. Victoria 2 is far better, because you can actually create and maintain historical borders that way.
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>>174785356
They have talked about history vs game balance many times. They want to give the game as much historical accuracy as possible, but they take some liberties so that they can balance the game more. Spain would certainly have been way too OP if they could do all of that so fast.

>>174785696
It's possible to earn infinite money using a trick with loans and the modifiers interest per annum. https://youtu.be/G4OozdprIFc?list=PL9zpWiBUWhJRHhi8sgkvTa33IWEndkTsG&t=419
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>>174785920
>it's possible to earn infinite money
Yes, but you need to conquer third of the world before you can do it.
Not really a viable strategy for this one.
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>>174785630
If extra colonies beyond the number of colonists you have didn't increase in price exponentially and were instead linearly more expensive, it might be able to be done.

Sustaining 12 colonies at 24 gold a month is possible if you're a country that's recently come into possession of a lot of gold. 12 colonies at 2050 gold a month is impossible.
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>>174784868
http://www.mediafire.com/file/do1d58422v4mnqr/Ad+Lucem.7z
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>>174785993
12 colonies at 24 ducats a month is not "linearly more expensive". It's the same price for all of them.
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>>174785904
>Historical start

Yeah you just start the game with everything colonized right?
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>>174786043
Exactly. If you construct a graph where the X-axis is "number of colonies" and the Y-axis is "total maintenance cost," you would see the two exhibit a linear relationship.
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>>174786070
I am just looking at the map of what's colonized at the year, moron. I'm not saying this is my save.
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>>174785356
You know they conquered more than colonised
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>>174786114
You are fucking retarded.
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>>174786114
But that is the fucking historical start...
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>>174786114
>>174786162
You two, be nice. What have gotten you so mad today? Is one of you the guy whose ironman save got wrecked?
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>>174786228
>>174786162
I am looking at what was HISTORICALLY colonized by Spain at 1540 according to the historical start and judging whether doing the same thing is possible when starting in 1444. Are you fucking dumb or what?
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>>174786162
>>174786228
He was just checking what he needed to colonize.
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>>174785904
I think a more suitable method to represent massive swathes of European claims to areas would be a "declaration of claim" mechanism to replace or supplement the Treaty of Tordesillas mechanic.

That is, you'd spend some bird mana to declare a particular colonial region which you've discovered to be your exclusive party ground, and other countries trying to colonise that territory would incur a massive relationship penalty with you or some other maluses. AI allies would almost always steer clear of claimed territories, while AI rivals might colonise them just to spite you. The AI would also be more likely to respect these claims if their capital is on the same continent as your capital (so Europeans will respect one-another's claims, while Asians won't give a fuck about what the Europeans agree to amongst themselves).

In this way, the game could represent how, for example, the British laid claim to the entire Australian continent in 1770, and went unchallenged in settling the continent from 1788 onwards.
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>>174786106
Again, that is not linearly more expensive. That's the same price for every colony.
Linearly more expensive per every extra colony would be ((first number is number of colonies, second number is the limit):
1/3 - 2g/month
2/3 - 4g/month
3/3 - 6g/month
4/3 - 9g/month (first extra costs 3g instead of 2g)
5/3 - 13g/month (first extra costs 3g, second extra costs 4g)
6/3 - 18g/month (3g;4g;5g)
etc.
That is linearly more expensive.
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>>174786306
To be fair, the historical map is not historical at all, IIRC the late start dates have lots of ahistorical bullshit, like South America independent when it shouldn't be.
Johann already said that there will be no historical starts for later games, just the Great Campaign start.
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>>174786374
You know that's already in the game, right? The colonizer gets bonus to colony growth while other catholics get a huge opinion malus with the claimaint and papal state if they colonize there, and also colony growth malus.
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>>174786306
You are fucking retarded. If you start in 1444, there's no way you can colonize that much territory by 1540.

Fucking retarded EU4 baby.
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>>174785993
Isn't that easily modded though?
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>>174786447
Yes, you can. I will do it on ironman and you will bow to me, motherfucker.
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>>174786443
That's the Treaty of Tordesillas mechanic, and only applies to Catholics.

This mechanic would supplement it and apply for all colonisers.

Because, again, Britain claimed all of Australia in 1770, and started colonising it unchallenged starting in 1788. And Britain was fucking Protestant at this point.
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>>174786491
Hahahaha just try it. When you are about to colonize La Plata you will probably see that it has already been colonized by Portugal.
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>>174784075
>>174782274
Do you refer to Rangerage? Because even if his intentions were honest, you have to judge a man by his actions and he betrayed /gsg/ to reddit.
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>>174786564
Even easier then, since you can conquer it.
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>>174786491
It's just plain impossible, you just won't have enough time to colonize all of that by 1540.
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>>174785904
You know Cuba has like 6 provinces right? So it will take you at least 20 years to colonize just that shitty island. Needless to say you can't just conquer the Inca unless you have a province neighboring them, and it takes 400 days just for the colonist to ARRIVE to a province in the Pacific South American region. And getting to La Plata needs you to take colonies in Africa, otherwise you wont be able to get the colonial range.

The only way I see you getting those borders by 1540 is if you start colonizing the Americas in 1470, 20 years before it was discovered IRL
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>>174786564
That's not what we're talking about though. We're talking about what is possible in-game. If someone else gets interested in colonising something they didn't colonise historically, that's alt-history rather than a limitation of the game.
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I think there is a bug with eu4 in the latest patch. Under some conditions the AI will ally a shitton of nations, like 10 different nations. Am I the only one whose games in which this occurs?
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>>174786831
Nah, I've seen Ming have royal marriage with 10 of their tributaries. Must have been eating a shitton of bird mana.
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>>174786831
>redditor discovers coalition wars the hard way but still hasn't discovered how to attach an image
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THIS
IS
PRUSSIA!!!!!!!
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>>174782274
Wut

>>174784075
I'd taken a long break from /gsg/, and apparently I missed what unHPM was. Some addon for HPM I'm assuming, or did it become it's own mod? And what was his "honest intentions"? I can't tell anymore what's sarcasm or what's not.
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>>174786813
Oh, now you're also asking me start colonizing in 1492+? Moving those goalposts, aren't we?
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>>174787024
You won't be able to do it in any date, you delusional faggot.
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>>174786897
I posted an image up there >>174785542
, and I was one of the allied so I'm safe.

Why the "redditor", is literally everything you can possibly post on here cause for being called a redditor nowadays?
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HELLO IS THERE SOMEONE WHO KNOWS HOW TO MOD EU4 ESPECIALLY MAP/SHADERS, 5 MINUTES OF WORK TOPS
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>>174787345
Is it time to start reporting this fucker for spamming?
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>>174787364
no its time you help the fuck out of me
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why did paradox have to make it so that provinces in vic2 can only have 1 resource?
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Is there a spreadsheet how all retinues in CK2 have changed from patch to patch? I want to see how they've balanced them over the years
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>>174787345
We understand, but you could wait an hour until you repost your message.
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Who is the creator of vic2? Johan as usual?
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>>174787560
im sorry r&i ill do as you tell me
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Emir Nasrid's hobbies:

>colonising
>exploring
>hiding from the Spaniards in South Africa
>enslaving Khoisan pastoralists
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Reminder that R&I is a severely autistic and obsessed NEET, he seriously needs to seek psychological help of some kind, although preferably he should just be euthanized humanely.

He has been doing this months or years now: prepare /gsg/ threads every day, update them all the time, constantly check the current thread so he can make his own one about 20 posts early and then post the signature reply "Reminder to report and ignore shitposting" which makes no sense since it's an oxymoron.

Just think about it, think about all the effort he's investing in a shitty general that could easily be maintained by just about anyone else, not to mention that pretty much everyone here hates him.

And he does this every day, multiple times a day even. Sometimes he does miss threads, but it's still ridiculously obsessive.

As I'm posting this he probably has already prepared a thread for later today and is anxiously waiting for this thread to reach the bumplimit so he can continue the cycle as always. He's clearly a NEET who probably hasn't done anything worth of any note in months or years, so he can afford to do this 24/7.

What a sad creature. Please put him out of his misery, anyone. No one deserves to live like this.
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>>174787539
laziness
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>1451
WELP
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>>174787948
Le epic Ulm :)
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>>174787948
Your merchant is free.
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>>174782817
>that krakow
based
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>>174787996
Krakow is white and based
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DUDE FUCK RELIGION LMAO
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>>174788215
>on probation
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>>174787901
Why did they add religion if it isn't going to add anything? Why didn't they just make labourers and farmers one pop?
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What would make HOI4 good?
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>>174788215
DUDE RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE LMAO
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>>174788450
>religion doesn't add anything
One fedora for this sir.
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>Louie declares war on me
>hire mercs, beat his ass
>press my de jure claim for Plaquemines
>capture this poor little white boy in the field of battle
>turn him into a shell of a man that can barely count to three

Did I mention I'm seducing his wife?
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>>174787672
>ibn yusuf
Kill him he let El Cid survive
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I was baptised, so to shall my cousin, clearly God made me infertile so his Kingdom could come to us
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>>174782224
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNAZh3QnHlg
Thinking about doing a Japan run in EU4/Vic2 HPM. Is there a mod that adds this to EU4's East-Asian soundtrack?
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>>174788510
What does religion add in victoria 2?
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Who's idea was it that Ming should get tributaries through diplomacy and that prosperity and stability gives mandate of heaven
>can't get ahead in tech of Ming to beat them even if they have a 200% tech penalty
>almost infinite manpower and can hire 40+ mercs
>they just sit there with 5 reforms pushed at 1520 with 200+ force limit with limitless mana
>0 problems with corruption or autonomy like historical Ming
>fucking HUGE accepted culture group
>no shitty peasant armies either
>even as a 1250 development Japan they're passively gaining Mandate
>ai is retardedly bad with Manchu states and Ming just gobbles them up in 30 years
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>>174789596
>4
Honestly I find it amazing they don't have a disaster fire every 3 monarchs like it did IRL, as Confucian thought 3 generations or more would corrupt them
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r8
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>>174789714
liberate and puppet banat and it'll be a 10/10
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>>174789714
let Italy annex you
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Do eu4 confucian have events that convert religion or culture? Or you'll stuck with it, since you cant convert harmonized religion?
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>>174790326
No idea for confican, but japan converts via incident events
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r8 my ebin groBgermaniums
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>>174790734
Epic theodoro.
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>>174790734
Protestcuck/10
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>>174790734
Hamburg
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>>174783292
William Marshal. THE knight. Also my ancestor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Marshal,_1st_Earl_of_Pembroke
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>>174791139
daddy lied to you buddy
>>
Nothing to do. pick some mod for me to play. eu4 or ck2 only.
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>>174791306
m&t
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>>174791306
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=791471230
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>>174786801
What exactly are you trying to do
there's a guide on the wiki either way
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>>174788971
Fuck off
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>>174791238
>He doesn't have his family tree traced back to the 9th century.

pleb
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is this haram?
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>>174791825
Yes, saving screenshots and png is haram.
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Would /gsg/ recommend buying Democracy 3 or Crisis in the Kremlin? Better alternatives?
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>>174782224
>no old thread linked
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>>174792645
Why would you need that?
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HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG
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>>174791760
>implying one of your female ancestors didn't cuck one of your male ancestors
>being proud of having nobility in your family, in Europe, where EVERYONE is descended from nobility
For example, literally every European is descended from Charlemagne. We wuz kangs.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/commentisfree/2015/may/24/business-genetic-ancestry-charlemagne-adam-rutherford
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>>174792850
>doesnt know what literally means
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Reminder to support and encourage funposting.
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Seriously, how fucking weird would history be if either the Plantagents or Valois had outright won the Hundred Years War instead of the stalemate we got in our time?

I mean, we would all be speaking some kind of fucking bastardized Norman-French-English shit for starters.

>>174790734
Too much blobbing. You better let your empire decompose before you convert to Vicky 2.
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>>174788215
>Jerusalem flag
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>>174788496
It not being bad.
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>>174793264
>in case it is not known, i am a jew
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>>174792736
It was a good thread.
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>>174789910
"no"
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BASED ALBANIA BROS
A
S
E
D
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>>174793075
I was doing a playthrough of an independent nationalist English Republic aiming to dominate the British Isles after achieving independence from the Dual Monarchy still ruling Ireland and France. Even gave it the fascist England flag from HPM with the Union Jack in the upper corner.

Need to go back to it at some point.
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>>174793620
THANK YOU FORMATTING
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pls help
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Newfag poorfag here, I stumbled upon the concept of grand strategy games recently and got EU3:DW since it was the best combination of easy to find and download, relatively low learning curve (according to a 5 minute google search), and most importantly that I could actually run on my toaster of a laptop since I apparently can't run any incarnation of EU4. Since I've picked it up, I've played a few saves as the teutonic order, minamoto, the aztecs, brandenburg, and sweden, each lasting for around 100 years give or take. Currently on frankfurt, trying to see how far I can take them just by blitzing towards tech with an emphasis on being small and economic and avoiding other people's wars. Maybe when I have 10+ tech levels over absolutely everyone else I'll just steamroll them so that even if the emperor bitches about it, he can't stop me. Haven't decided yet.

The thing is, I haven't slept well in like 5-6 weeks. I used to get like 10 hours a night, now I wake up, open my laptop and load my save again, play for around 15-20 hours straight before I get too tired to continue, then wake up and do it again. The actual time I wake up and fall asleep varies and is dismissive, and I end up eating whenever I actually notice I'm hungry rather than on a semi-regular pattern. I don't even give any mind to my other hobbies anymore and my backlog has not only been not touched, I'm not even keeping tabs on what should go in it.

I have NEVER been sucked into a game like this before. is it just because it's a new genre for me, am I maybe a little autistic, or is this just norrmal for new people trying to overcome the learning curve? Regardless, I figure I'll lurk here for a while and hopefully absorb something useful, if only just perspective. Just from browsing this thread, it seems like this community has a decent learning curve too.
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how the fuck do am I supposed to institute primogeniture in a massive empire like Francia

it's fucking impossible, all I need to to get high crown authority, but I can't even bump it up to minimal because of the amount of voters

I don't use conclave either, so how do I do this shit?
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>playing CK2
>Kingdom of Brittany
>has only one de jure duchy
>i control it
>and all counties in the duchy
>i still can't create the title
why
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>>174795087
a foreign power with a foreign religion has control of one of your cities/bishops/castles
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>>174795087
ignore this retard >>174795246

in all of their wisdom, paradox devs have made it so that you need atleast 2 duchies to create a kingdom. EVEN if it is a 1 duchy kingdom.
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>>174791624
I don't know, one thing I know is that every map mode in a terrain map mode that's all. Also I know batshit about modding
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>>174795424
ignore this retard

it's the foreign power thing
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>>174791006
>Protestcuck
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>>174795974
Francis is based af tho


Angloturds fear him
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>>174795974
>not being muslim
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I like how if you colonize Mexico or Peru you get a shitton of money from the Treasure fleets. I don't know how to handle that inflation and corruption though
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>>174796054
>Not being either germanic/nordic or celtic pagan.
Typical. No respect for the old ways. Protestant myself though. Who am I to judge?
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>>174796698
Get daddy pope to hook you up
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In our of our new faith with God, we broke our ties with the Saracens.
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>>174797075
but if anime has taught me anything it's that god and the church are always evil
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>>174794013
>LOOK MOM I POSTED THAT COPYPASTA AGAIN
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>>174787672
In accordance with the Quran, we have circumcised the world with our fleet of hundred-foot clippers.

>>174788791
Somehow I doubt it's the same one.
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>>174791139
based
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does enforced military access count towards relations limit?
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>>174797536
yes
>>
So I formed Netherlands and I haven't gotten the event to change to a dutch republic. It's been over 11 years in-game. Is it still possible to get it or is my game ruined?
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>>174795424
which other duchy should i take then

decide for me
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>>174797828
The duchy of Cornwall, of course.

Use it as the first step towards reclaiming Great Britain for the true Britons.
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>>174796051
Oh yes, the most cucked Pope in living memory has us just terrified.
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Yes it is the clan capital, but we are Japanese, more importantly we are Christians, so I say to you men, they did not fear the fires of hell itself, so no mercy and no respite.
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Croatian fascists have awoken.
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>>174797828
Cornwall for sure
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>when Ming is ahead of tech even compared to italian minors
>with a 222% tech cost penalty
ebin
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>>174793468
How do you have 5 NFs? What are your accepted pops, and how do you have so many?
>>
>achievemtns suddenly disable
>game now feels really blobby
>get depr4essed
>MEIOU is still outdated
So this is the power of autism
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>>174799937
dumb sl*venian cheats obviously
>>
>>174799756
just like they were in real life
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Is it mandatory that I ally with the Axis as Japan in Darkest Hour?
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:^)
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Via Robert Graves:
>The Slavs are not mycophobic, probably because their remote ancestors were nomads on the treeless steppes and unacquainted with amanita muscaria. Their fermented mare's milk, called kavasse, satisfied their need for occasional intoxication. Like the Arabs in their desert poverty they had learned to eat any growing plant or living animal that was not poisonous. Bavaria is mycophagous, while the rest of Germany is mycophobic, simply because it was once invaded by Slavs.
So is Bavaria a slav country? Does that explain why Bavaria will always sabotage Germany?
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>>174797926
>>174799646
how do i do it if i don't have many boats
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>>174800651
Declare war, move your army piecemeal into Wessex, then march them in all at once.
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HELLO IS THERE SOMEONE WHO KNOWS HOW TO MOD EU4 ESPECIALLY MAP/SHADERS, 5 MINUTES OF WORK TOPS
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>>174801078
Piss in your computer usb ports
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When is the hungary patch coming, is there a date yet?
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>>174801304
november 25th
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>>174800615
No Bavaria is Hungary lite
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Can vassals have personal unions? Don´t want to lose Lorraine if I vassalize Provence as France.

>>174800615
No. The Bavarians are the original South Germans, already existing when Francia was still up and kicking and the Saxons where being fucked over.
>>
anyone got a mega link for all eu4 dlc with a steam, and cream api, switched game back to meiou and it deleted files
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>>174799756
historically accurate you racist eurocentrist
>>
>EU4
>Has potential to be elite trading nation
>True to the catholic faith entire game for heresy purging roleplay
>Part of the HRE

who am i
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>>174799756
China industrialized in the 11th century so that's realistic enough.
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Any tips?
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>>174802154
Genoa?
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>>174802154
Hansa
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Gold = Silver in EU4 apparently

why isn't silver in EU4? It could just be gold with half inflation and half of the profits
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>>174802154
Genoa
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>>174799937
>>174800275
Italians KEKED
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>didn't play CK2 since before Reaper's Due
>install it again
>start as a single province Polish Chief in 769
>stay single province for 8 years
>4 years on manage to unite Poland due to a perfect storm of coincidences
>unfortunately eldest son Bogumil dies in battle
>a few years later die worrying whether your young son Bozydar will manage to hold onto the crown
>he controls only two provinces, has strong vassals, little money, and envious younger brothers (including a genius half-brother)
>Dutiful Cleric, Child of Concubine, Cynical, Humble, Gregarious
>>
How pleb can you get, /gsg/? The AI is awful, it can't do anything right. It's easy to steamroll the AI in any grand strategy game, simply because it's shit.

You think you're good
because you blobbed into California as Japan? Think again.

The only way to know if you're good, or to get good, is to play with other humans. The AI will always pale in comparison to a real human. SP is boring, soulless and it isn't even a challenge - it's only useful to learn the basics of the game. The true glory comes from outsmarting and defeating another human.

MP is the way that grand strategy is meant to be played. I can't even explain the feeling I get from outsmarting and completely outmaneuvering another person in battle. I can't even explain it, I'm lost for words. Whenever I force another player to accept my demands, I feel like a God. I am a God.

I pity you lonely and unskilled SP players. I invite you, as a friend, to enjoy grand strategy the way its meant to be enjoyed. To challenge yourself and others. Stop staring at the same map everyday and being proud that you "somehow" beat this pathetic AI. It's time to truly enjoy grand strategy.

MP is the most exquisite art form when it comes to grand strategy. And art is polarizing, I understand that some of you will agree with what I've just said and some of you will disagree. I invite all of you to think rationally about this and to not let fear, stupidity and irrationality get in the way.

Respect.
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>>174802373
>encouraging libtard loyalty

lad...
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>>174802307
I agree.

The icon they have for iron looks more like silver too. They could use that, and make a darker one for iron.
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>>174802298
Lubeck is Lutheran, ya dip
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>>174802408
Unironically though, I would really like some EU4 MP campaigns with you good folks.
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>>174802408
host MP then
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>>174802307
Because then people would ask why couldn't they code for gold vs silver econimies to keep China afloat
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>>174802154
austria that conquers venice
>>
Anyone hosting eu4 mp, with all dlc preferably as I lost mine
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>>174802382
>5 June 728
>Theodotos 'Bozydar' Sieradzki, priest of Lucifer grown fat on human meat, elected Emperor of the Byzantine Empire
>Dutiful Cleric, Child of Concubine, Pilgrim, Cannibal, Poet, Hedonist, Impaler, Humble, Gregarious, Cruel, Deceitful, Zealous, Paranoid, Arbitrary, Drunkard, Possessed

wew/10

Any ideas on how to proceed from here?
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>>174802154
Milan
>>
Are CK2 2.7 (WHGQ) saves compatible with 2.7.0.2? I usually always finish my games before updating, but Bigger Interface is buggy with 2.7.
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>>174802823
*828 obviously
>>
>>174793075
I mean, we would all be speaking some kind of fucking bastardized Norman-French-English shit for starters.
can't tell if youre making a joke or not
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>>174802809
>>174802408
I'd be up for some EU4 mp
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>>174802823
This was your mistake, never land your heirs
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>>174802382
>>Dutiful Cleric,
well it makes sense considering his name is "god's gift"
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>>174802408
This is a REALLY good, informative post. Please everyone, educate yourselves and join the /gsg/mp steamgroup. All are welcome, we don't discriminate any race, belief or creed.

And our MP sessions are organized and frequent. Don't deprive yourself of some good ol' fashioned Grand Strategy Multiplayer!
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>>174803000
>considering his name is "god's gift"
Both his original Slavic name (Bozydar) and the Greek name I got when converting to my liege's culture (Theodotos) mean that.

Is there like a 'translation' feature going on or was it just a coincidence?

>>174802967
What do you mean? The original weakness of the heir was due to gavelkind.
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>>174802408
HE
HAS
SPOKEN
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>>174802460
>Full citizenship
>Lazy fairy
only problem being pacifism, but its much better than socialism
>>
>>174802963
So can you host
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Are citybuilders /gsg/?
pah, my governors think money grows on trees!
>>
What do I do as a Byzantine count when the emperor disallows vassal wars? How can I progress? Can I perhaps make him change the law somehow?

Other council members often ask me for favors but I don't know what exactly they are doing with them. And why do I need favors if I'm not a liege? I feel like I don't get this mechanic.
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>>174803825
Make faction to increse council authority then with favors do a vote to allow vassal wars
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Would you play this?
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>>174804057
yes
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>>174782274
WHAT MAP MOD PLEASE
>>
>>174784635
Why don't you, you piece of fiucking shit?
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>>174804057
no
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Why do redditors want Byzantium in HPM so much?
>install a mod aiming for historical accuracy
>waah why cant i form the roman empire in the 20th century
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>>174786801
What map mod is that?
>>
>>174804057
I would desu
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>>174804443
Reddit loves byzantium because they a mirror of themselves: permanently cucked by brown people
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>>174804589
>>174804219
then I'm going to continue polishing this
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>>174802154
Munster
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>>174804519
its the BROKEN ONE which i try to fix for 3 days by begging

HELLO IS THERE SOMEONE WHO KNOWS HOW TO MOD EU4 ESPECIALLY MAP/SHADERS, 5 MINUTES OF WORK TOPS
>>
>>174793075
What mod is that?
>>
>>174804057
>Poland Exists so I don't have to release it or play Krakow
>Holstein has Schleswig, so can be inherited by Germany
>Aremenian minority Countries in Middle East
>FUCKING CORSICA< MOTHERFUCKER.
>Is that Westphalia?

I would love to play Westpalia. Born on Volkswagen day and my family's driven them for 4 generations. (Ancestors left the region in like 1912.)
>>
>beligrade pact finally wins against bulgaria
>making preparations for megali idea
>romania randomly declares war on commie france

i-i got annexed
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>>174782274
What province mod is this using?
>>
>>174804865
2 and 3 are HPM, 1, 4 and 5 are small points of divergence which were plausible during Congress of Vienna

Westphalia is ruled by a Saxon king btw
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>>174800410
epic, epic for the win
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>>174805031
>Westphalia

kek i meant Rhineland
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>>174802408
I once played as UK with Germany and USSR in DH (WW2).

Despite my desperate defense, I couldn't protect France. USSR blatantly refused to help (why was he even there?) because "he wasn't ready". Even at 1942 when I made a minor naval invasion on Denmark, keeping 24 German divisions on standby he wasn't ready.

Seing how Germany spammed airborne divisions, I had to pull out of Africa to protect my coasts against the "land paratroopers on a port, then sent transports" meme. I also lost some Carriers in the process since this faggot got a stack of 8 naval combers, and over 20 divisions.

And this worthless piece of shit kept sitting on his worthless slav shithole, eternally repeating "sorry, still not ready", while I was defending my rock like the faggot I was. Why the fuck did you even join our MP you worthless cunt?
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>>174802373
>italian majority

pizza'd
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Fucking Korea fucking asshole vulture gook.
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Just started playing my first Hearts of Iron game earlier, 3rd game to be exact

Pretty fun so far, playing as Germany, currently 1938 and iv just annexed Lithuania because I wanted to test out my infantry and cavalry
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>>174804057
>cucked prussia

woah so original
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>>174805751
>not starting as jianzhou
?
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PLEASE WHAT PROVINCE MOD WAS HE USING IN VICTORIA 2!!!
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>>174805807
>cucked
>whole Saxony is Prussian

Prussians wanted to go to war over not getting Saxony, this scenario is Prussia's wet dream
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>>174805158
Greece is ruled by a Bavarian at start date, so I don't mind. The culture of the ruler doesn't particularly matter.
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>>174805850
You get 3 game breaking decisions if your rulers has atleast 3 paper mana stat.
jianzhou ruler 2 1 3
Haixi ruler 3 3 3
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Did any of you do the frozen assets cheevo?
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>>174805980
whatever, nothing changes except for a weaker prussia, poland and corsica
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how the fuck is this a distant war reeee
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>>174806084
I did it when it was new-ish.
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>>174804851
>implying anyone knows how to do anything technical here
try reddit
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>>174804057
Make an option to play as a Prussian game where the West Germans can form a Germany. In other words, smooth up the borders between West German minors and Prussen.
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>>174806304
That looks different than what I was thinking on doing, what did you do?

I was going to ask, is it necessary to conquer down in india and china when doing the russia-blob, or is it enough to to the upper part of asia and build production buildings + factories?
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>>174806495
I honestly hate how the German Unification is handled in vic2, I'd prefer German cores to be on the German Confederation lands and german unification needn't require all of the cores, especially not Prussian nor Austrian ones. Minors could try to unify themselves if Bavaria/Hannover/Rhineland gets going but then a Prussian/Austrian intervention is quite probable. Maybe France would help if the "minor" German state promised real nice that it wouldn't want A/L?
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>>174806274
Because austrians are mountainkikes not proper germans
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>>174806673
Yeah I agree, I'd want an option for the German minors to form their own Germany, leaving Prussia and Austria out.
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>>174806537
I got it pretty early iirc. Just gotta be good at your trade game and leech lots of money from upstream.

This screenshot was taken after I got the achievement. I don't have any screenshots of borders, but you can see my merchants at least.
I was trying to showcase something unrelated in the screenshot so ignore whatever's going on.
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>>174807147
How did you manage to do it so fast? Do you remember the steps?
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>>174807440
Blob into everything that feeds towards white sea. Get lots of merchants (trade ideas). Divert trade towards white sea.
I don't remember any specifics of how I survived against Muscovy but pulling off the cheevo itself shouldn't be much of a problem, however it also depends on how good the AI is at making the other nodes in the world richer.
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>>174806960
Also, have you noticed that it's very ahistorical to have e.g. Hanover (okay, it's the only German minor that matters in the vanilla setup) fights with Prussia against the Austria, while they have no business doing so? Prussia always gets it into their SoI and has one less thing to worry about during unification process. Even if Hannover can field only 3 brigades I want them to fight against Prussia.
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>>174807074
>r8 muh national socialist autistic paradise
Disgusting statist, I wouldn't even waste a McMissile on you if you violated the NAP
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>>174807440
>>174807602
You can see that I've got merchants in Yumen and Beijing but I wasn't actually blobbed into China.
You can take lots of money from people by putting merchants there and sucking it up, as long as you've got lots of power downstream.
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>>174807814
How about india? No blobbing down there?
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>>174807694
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>>174807905
Nope. Getting trade north from India is pretty time-consuming anyway.
http://www.eu4wiki.com/images/f/f7/Trade_nodes_with_arrows.png
Take a good look at the map and look at the points where you've got to control the direction.
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>the French

mighty hussars
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>>174809063
Something happened to your army.
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>>174809063
>not running 10 hussars 10 cannons
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>>174809063
>lebouef
>Bismarck will not divide us
>his last words to Alsace
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>>174809447
It's Crimean War and Austro-Prussian War going at the same time, France got access through NGF

Austro-Prussian war had actually happened, this time Austria declared war for Hanoverian independence (??? I like it, HPM)
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>40 life rating germany
HISTORICAL
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>Russia has just fought a long war with France and UK
>out of 100 brigades, only 30 are left
>I have 20 brigades and 170 relations with NGF

I'm going for it, pls based Prussia accept
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Russia getting BTFOd and Prussians joining in, fuck yes

(I should changeowner Posen to them for this I think)
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>>174810556
GERMANY WHAT THE FUCK I WAS ADDING THE WARGOALS
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>>174810926
Lol get rekt by AI
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>>174807074
what is this?
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>>174810926
changeowner it to you in exchange for posen
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>>174811285
Filteries, you just change the stats based on your preference and then post it for (You)s.
filteries.zoy.org
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>>174782224
>gets a good heir at anytime
>gets the meme event hurr durr heir falls ill
>never gets it at all when i have a shit heir 0 0 1
I demand someone justify this shit
whats next pesant revolts with 3 star generals?
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>>174811484
hello
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>>174811567
EU4 is shit
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>>174811659
so are most paradox games whats your point?
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>>174811640
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>174811715
Other Paradox games are actually good.
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>>174805091
Please clean those borders.
annex dahomey and those single province portugal colonies
give italy your east africa
give portugal malawi
maybe even annex liberia
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>>174811859
name 3
you cant use victoria becasue trade in that game is fucked
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>>174811990
Hearts of iron 4
that's almost 5 of the greatest games combined
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>>174811939
How do I fix Africa?
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>>174811990
CK2, EU3, HOI3
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>>174812080
tabarestan was like one province from forming persia fucking rip, but that's a sweet ass durrani empire
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>>174811990
>you cant use victoria becasue trade in that game is fucked
>>>/r/paradoxplaza
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>>174812080
By uninstalling and fucking off back to

>>>/r/paradoxplaza
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Underaged r*dditor faggots actually think that their shitty map painting simulator EU4 is good or hard
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>>174812080
Eu4 posters are scum and deserve to be shot
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I wanna play one of the EU games but im not sure which one, you guys seem pretty torn between 3 and 4
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>>174812224
The reason they haven't is because Afghan is my tributary and tehy won't dare attack me.

>>174812331
>>174812481
>>174812485
owned pwned and btfo'd
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>>174812629
3, 4 is autistic
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>>174812629
Play 3.

4 is just a retarded manafest.
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Hey, does anyone know the specific .dds format to save Victoria 2 images in? I'm making a small mod to roughly replicate the events of the 1849 Roman Republic. It's apparently not the same format as the CK2 .dds images, so I'm not sure.
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>>174812485
>everyone who plays games i dont like should be shot
You need to be 18 years old to post on this site.
>>174812629
while 4 has some cool stuff with it 3 is the overall best choice
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Friendly reminder that this eu4 shit poster is none other than BIG_BENIS_IN_MY_ANUS, notorious reddit shitposter and the one responsible for the deletion of the archive. Do not respond to his posts, do not give him attention. He is the enemy of all decent folks.
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>>174813040
t. R&I autist
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>>174813040
t. steamcordplaza
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Can someone help me with this please? I'm trying to register on that Russian website in the OP link because I can't pirate any of the games there without an account

Trying to fucking make one and I keep getting hit with this shit in pic related. What am I missing? Fucking Russians don't make any sense.
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>>174813040
t. radical yugoslavia
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look how much land i can take
>>174813040
Lad, I've literally never shitposted once, you shitposting everytime I post does not count as me shitposting.
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BIG_BENIS_IN_MY_ANUS is W&B
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they've been stuck like that for years, I can't build factories

it says they lack iron but I produce a shitton of it
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SHITPOSTERS UNITE
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GAS THE KIKES
RACE WAR NOW
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>>174813641
Can you fund the projects manually in the investment screen? Maybe there is iron but they can't afford it.
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>168 chinks a year
Just imagine being a Chinese colonist in East Africa, lads, the average IQ is going up by the second. And unlike in pathetic EuroAfrica we gas the natives, like they should have done.
>>174813491
thank you lad its good to finaly have some recognisiotn
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>>174814308
FUCKING NIGGERS
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So what's the official EU4 1.20 idea group tier list?
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>>174814714
Naval = Maritime > the rest > plutocratic
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Haven't played in ages, give me a vicky2 country and goal to play
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>>174814164
I built them myself so there's no project to fund, apparently only factories in french states are blocked

also what to do with this one single province? Changeowner it to Spain?
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>>174815017
Hamburg
Conquest Europe
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>>174815017
USA

Achieve historical borders and then genocide all niggers and natives
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MAYO WHEN
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>>174815113
changeowner it to you, rouissilion should be a part of the southernmost french region
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>>174815017
USA, Intervene in wars halfway across the world and just make things worse and not better.
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>>174783292
Admiral Yi of Korea.
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>>174815169
>>174815206
>>174815324
too late, started with hamburg already, and done USA in the past already before
how shall i start?
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>>174783292
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>>174815628
>Now:
>>Remove Anime

/eog/ confirmed for shit
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>>174814308
At least your autistic game will be over soon
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>>174815634
War with the first person that interacts with you in any way
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>>174815270
>changeowner it to you

nah I don't changeowner provinces to me unless it's an exchange to reduce border gore

btw I switched ruling party with one with a lazy fairy policy and factory started to build themselves, I changed back to interventionism and now I was able to expand them properly

very weird
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>>174815628
Are We being raided
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>>174813148
Just install more ram, that should calm them.
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>>174816625
see >>174816540
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>>174815817
Now, infact. Why did you hate it so much?
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>>174816142
What about politics? Liberal or Conservative?
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>>174817919
see >>174816540
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reasonable yurop
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>>174816949
>no replies
Based Steamcordplaza, you ask them why they do the shit they do and they can't answer. Literal retardation.
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>>174817919
I do like me some 2d hentai games
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>>174817919
Finally
Quality Games
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>>174818285
Anyway, here's my end game. Orange is me, semi transparent orange is tributaries.
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>>174803756
civ4xg
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New Thread

>>174782224
>>174782224
>>174782224
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>>174818917
Really made me think
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>>174818070
Turk remains. There is no reason to this.
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>>174818657
And here's what I got in East Africa compared to what I planned to get, using the V2HPM map.
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>>174819296
d-did i win lads?
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Is Stellaris /gsg/ yet?
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>>174819296
believable worlds
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>>174817919
Time to play a REAL game
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>>174819759
Yes
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>>174819296
did you westernize?
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>>174816142
Hanover, 1848
This is gonna hurt
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So I'm working on a small mod to allow the creation of the Roman Republic (1848-1849) and part of what happened was that an insurrection in Florence almost lead to the duchy joining. The way I have this represented is that the RR gets a decision to send an offer to Tuscany, which proc's an event. They can get annexed or refuse. I'm trying to decide what factors should choose whether or not Tuscany accepts the offer or not.

On top of that, I wanted people's thoughts on the Republic's potential responses to that;
-Minor Loss of infamy, end
-Minor gain of infamy, puppet CB*
-Major gain of infamy, annex CB*

The reason I'm asking for input is that I'm not sure if perhaps that third option should tie into some sort of revocation of the Grand Duchy's granting. (If it's authority was derived from the Pope and the Pope's authority is no longer respected) and thus giving the Republic cores for that infamy.

*The amounts would still be less than simply fabricating a claim.
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>>174819830
Indeed, fun though. I don't know why they made inner Africa colonisable, I mean, what possible justification can they have for it, outside of their cuckolding fantasies?

>>174819992
They don't have westernization anymore. Everyone's the same tech level.
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>tfw no alternate history mod where the Spanish Empire doesn't collapse and instead industrializes and becomes the richest country in the world
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>>174811990
warlock master of the arcane
warlock 2
warlock master of the arcane:complete
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>>174820314
Top kek, here's tech at end of game.
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>>174820747
Here's culture, but with China split up. Note the Manchu in East Africa and Canada.
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>>174820080
Go full unHPM lad
it's called roman for a reason
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>>174821283
Here's religion, note the confucians in Ireland.
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>>174821612
i hope that you assimilated Islam into Confucianism
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MU9IEOxcBlo

pretty good
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>>174821612
And lastly government forms, darker red equals more monarchical and lighter blue equals more republican. Yellow is tribal and Oirat, the green state in Siberia, is still Iqta.

As you can see Liberalism has pretty much engulfed all of Europe, even the "monarchies" are constitutional and it even has a lot of republics, such as Soctland, Holland, and Castille. China is the most absolutist monarchy in the world, with the rump Ottoman state in Asia minor coming a distant second.

The only other state of note is Salzburg, a theocracy in the heart of Europe.
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>>174783292
Michael Collins, Padráig Pearse and the other heroes of 1916, Daniel O'Connell, Oscar Wilde, Gerry "A Ballymurphy Nigger!" Adams
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>>174822279
Nah, it really just isn't worth it. It gasses your harmony for a hundred years (harmony gives you unrest so is automatically better than most of the buffs) and the bonuses for harmonizing are not even close to worth it.
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>>174811990
Magicka
Magicka Vietnam
Magicka Wizard Survival Kit
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>>174821610
You mean like absurd decisions to give cores everywhere? Well, I don't have anything like that planned, but I was thinking on a couple of different things;
-An event/decision to seed some Roman cultured pops, allowing assimilation to it.
-A few renaming decisions for important Roman areas (Gaul, Hispania, Illyria). More importantly, after a certain amount of conquest, I was thinking either giving the culture as accepted or giving it a bonus to assimilation to Roman. Not sure.
-A handful of decisions so the ai will move its capital if the surrounding states are conquered. (No more isle de Paris while you have taken the rest of Mainland France but don't care to take the shitton of colonies.)
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>>174822572
Which is better?
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>>174822706
Harmony seems pretty fun, noticed that you can't culture convert if you harmonize though, since you can only culture convert provinces with your religion(harmonized religions don't count), and you can't convert harmonized religions
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>>174822953
top, obviously
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Can anyone tell me how to cheat to give me all the provinces I want to play a game in victoria 2 as a nation that does not exist in the game?
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>>174822953
neither reeeee
BRITS OUT
CHINKS OUT
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>>174823320
>cheating
hitlertipping.jpg
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>>174817919
based
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>>174823420
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They added this weird meme decision where if you get 100k you can "go to the moon" and the EU4 theme plays whilst the credits roll past your flag on blank terrain.>>174823085
Yeah, it's pretty shit.
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>>174823320
show provid
changeowner [TAG] [province id]
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New thread
>>174824250
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>>174824415
you're 300 memes short kid
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>>174825063
fuck off weeb
>>
I kinda like the idea of these cross-/vg/ posts. I feel like we should expand this.
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>>174825063
Build liquor factories
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>>174825063
Stop, anon. The joke was funny initially, no need to beat the dead horse and just make /gsg/ hate us.
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>>174825205
no
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Based Erdogan.
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>>174825310
I don't know you but I already hate you.
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>>174825205
this

>>174825314
kys reddit
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>>174825410
So do I.
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>>174825467
>artificial academy
>/hgg2D/
sorry anon, you lose
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>>174825732
>you lose
As everybody does with Illusion, LAMO
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>>174825880
Good job anon, welcome
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>>174825205
naeh we're a tall general
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>>174826035
We get it, you watch anime
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>>174826160
>tall
As opposed to manlets?
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Im gonna be posting some battle-stats of my cykablyat game
>pic related
I wont be playing anymore of it right now though because Im trying to attempt a China game
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>>174826035
Technically /gsg/ raided /hdd2D/ first.
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>>174826563
>Not selling Alaska to the US and making mad cash
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>>174825294
https://youtu.be/ea2WoUtbzuw
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>>174826563
Looks pretty good desu, maybe you should have annexed more shit in Asia
>>
tell me a /fun/ nation to play as in Extended Timeline, i was thinking France under Napoleon but that would be a pain in the ass
>>
why are pervs raiding us instead of the steam group?
>>
How much more power than my liege do I need to be pretty sure he'll submit to a faction?
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>>174826876
because the steam group doesn't exist
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>>174826762
You pass with flying colors
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>>174826563
>Austro-hungarian """might"""

>>174826720
>capitalism in glorious motherland
haha very funny joke.
Gulag for you

>>174826826
>blobbing into brits
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>>174827146
>not even a million dead
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>>174827146
>Alaska
>Glorious Motherland
GBU-28 for you
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>>174827146
>communist
>imperial flag
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>>174827146
>Chinese """""""""might"""""""""

>>174827367
>implying they had that many soldiers

>>174827493
>implying that Alaska had any Alaskans
all soviet people living, id show you but im busy with FUCKING REACTIONARIES REEEEEE

>>174827521
blame the war analyzer t.bh
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>>174827681
*flicks switch*
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>>174813148
it keeps changing, but your pic related is this
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post them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Tq5vaCzh7Q
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>>174828215
https://youtu.be/ouTsdUhDjsg
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I can make my own Kingdom, what should I name it?

"Most Glorious Super Duchy of No-taly" is not an option
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Okay so I want to improve the German Unification event chain because I think it's rather bad in vanilla and because in this scenario, without a very strong Prussian presence in Rhineland, a crown-in-a-gutter Germany composed of German minors can at least try to rebel against their Prussian/Austrian overlords in 1848.

The German Cores represent simply the German confederation. They are not representing how the unified Germany will look, they are not representing cores of a unified Germany, because each unification (Prussia-led, Austria-led, minor-led) will lead to a Germany with different goals and claims - cores can, and will be altered after Germany unifies.

I will also make German minors fight against, not for Prussia in Austro-Prussian war, as it was OTL. Hannover fighting Austria just to be annexed later by Prussia makes no fucking sense.
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>>174828215
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uf_guggthsc
legitimately a good song desu
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>>174828215
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bPMzD7xY1A
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wut
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>>174828215
see: >>174819141

>>174828736
based
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>>174828598
I like it anon, makes forming Germany more interesting. Will you make it HPM compatible?
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Is the geheimnisnacht in the op the most recent? it keeps crashing for me.
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Is Africamod compatible with HPM?
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>>174829654
t. africamod creator shilling his shitty mod again
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>>174829561
Yes. It only supports version 2.6.3.
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>>174829759
Is it shit? A friend recommended it to me, if it sucks I won't play it
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Vicky2 country and goal?
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>Maga of the Hermetic Society
Make Alchemy Great Again!
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>>174830004
yes
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https://twitter.com/alex12gra
what the fuck HPM
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>>174830004
"Africa mod"
Literally all it does is add more sudafrikaniums wank shit, it doesn't actually add anything to Africa.
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>>174830209
why is leftypol so angry that someone would try to play as boers after countless of games of westernizing every single unciv out there?
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>spend 20 years fabricating a claim with the best chancellor in the world
>no claim

There needs to be a fucking time limit on this thing. After 5 years the claim should go through automatically. RNG bullshit ruins the game.
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>>174830484
They hate white people irrationally, they don't need a reason.
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>>174830234
Am I the only one who gets kinda sad after seeing a person attempt to use twitter with a few posts and then completely quit, like he was expecting something interesting and fun out of it but got let down on the exact same day?

Maybe I'm just autistic
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>>174830484
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>>174830209
I unironically like this image.
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>>174830843
i get this mainly with youtubers.

like this guy who actually put a great deal of effort to his videos, no less than most of the famous ones, and made more than 100 videos, but ultimately stopped because he wasn't getting any views.

or that other guy who accidentally got one of his views to become viral and tried to take advantage of it, but his latest videos have 500 views max and he keeps posting slower and slower.
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>>174830843
kind of like how Alex Grandi made a few versions of her mod and then quit?
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DEUS VULT

[Sadiq Khan wakes in cold sweat]
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>>174830843
Not really with twitter, since I had a twitter that I kinda just forgot about, so I could see it being the same for me.

I think twitter is a great specialized news feed, but I am bad with routines so checking in on it hasn't worked for me.
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>>174830234
>HPM last posted March 6

Not sure if this is good or bad, it seems to me now that he and R&I left this thread got much less shit, although he was our only decent modder.

I'm pretty sure he's still lurking anyway, even when he said he was gone before he still found time somehow to reply to that one autist complaining about the mod.
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With the damn insects attacking our loyal trading partners, man's new best friend, all fleets are ordered to the Ketarov Federation, with orders head to their two border systems with the insects after refueling in Kal-Setu. While the Ketarov's have a decent military, their system's lack defenses of their own.

In the meantime, a new Fleet is order for construction, as with more and more planets entering the Human fold, more fleets and escorts are expected to be needed.
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/gsg/ needs to make a new mod
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>>174832019
i got it
we replace all instances of russians
with canadians
what do you think /gsg/?
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Old thread:
>>174722659
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>>174832265
great idea
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>>174832019
if i knew how to i would
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>>174782291
what's the point of playing EU:IV at all? it's a literal babby game for retards and/or redditors
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>>174831880
Against all expectation, the dogs, those madmen or maddog? fire the first shots of the war with an assault on Shouv. The attack seems to be in vain, however, as the medium space station will be able to fight off the attack, maybe even taking some dogs with them.

While we ponder our allies attacks, we stand by them none the less. Our ships move to Tuprawa, the dogs' capital system, to refuel, and then head south to face the swarm.
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>>174783840
Ave Gloria
Ave Império
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>>174831253
>>174830843
>>174830234
whos this alex grandi person? is that HPM? i thought HPM was an argie
>>
k lads
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>>174831328
>HWICCE
hwhy
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>>174807074
>that filename, I recognise it.
Based Mosley. He saw it all coming. The Prime Minister we needed but didn't deserve.
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>>174832751
Then, as quickly as it started, the war ends with a ceasefire. The dog's and insect's dealing puzzles us. Maybe the bugs heard of our support, maybe the assault on Shouv scared them (as it is an important communications hub for the insects). Whatever the reasons, the Fleets are ordered home, to the complaining of our troops wishing to help our allies remove the southern infestation. They should fear not though, as these bugs will be fought again, as in their nature.

Dumb ass AI goes all French the moment the fighting starts
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>>174832019
we are. meiou and taxes 2.0. will be released in 2 months max.
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>>174833518
the m&t devs are fucking redditors
prove me wrong
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>>174833593
i can't. but unlike reddit, they shit on vannila eu4 and paradox constantly. 2.0 will add pops, which means that they are /ourguys/.
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>>174833764
>2.0 will add pops
hardly
you can pretend the development system now equates to pops (which isn't outlandish) and it would what m&t are implementing
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>>174834358
you are right, it is just a reformed development system renamed to "population", but with the private economy addition and the new estates, it will make eu4 a game where it is possible to do things other than blobbing.

i just hope it won't lag too much.
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>>174834601
>i just hope it won't lag too much.
It used to get less than 5% of the performance of vanilla and they're adding a lot of content. Why would the performance increase?
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is Liang mod updated for 3.04?
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>>174834763
i personally have a good processor (though i heard that the lag is engine induced, meaning that there will be lag even if your rig is good), but they announced that an improvement paradox made on the clausewitz engine significantly increased performance and the latest teasers they released didn't seem to lag much.
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>>174834996
>you will never declare an entire country your private personal fief and treat it's entire population as slaves

belgium used to be based.
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>>174835261
>colonies of a non-country are non-countries

it's like pottery
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>>174835261
Fucking madmen.
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>>174835261
except he got btfo by self righteous yanks
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does anyone have a download link for CoolMapMod? it's not in the archive
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>>174836554
i still don't get the german one and did the frogs like fucking the natives that much?
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>>174828760
Galicia stronk remove paella?
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post your autistic fetishes

>fighting a completely hopeless war and doing my best to minimize the damage while all fronts are collapsing
1944 germany scenario is really something
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>>174836836
promiscuity is a french stereotype, as is being orderly/disciplined/autistic a german stereotype.
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>>174836879
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>>174802382
>>174802823
>nicest person you will ever meet
>and
>twisted fucking psychopath
>>
I downloaded that Fallout mod you guys were talking about yesterday, played it a little

I went with Caesar's Legion and did fairly well through the scramble-like event, but now it's been like two years and nothing happened. Is the game supposed to be just "declare war and fight if you want, we don't really care" at this point, or will events drive things forward?

Also the random provinces marauders never touched are bothering the shit out of me
>>
HPM is poo poo pee pee
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>>174838434
i also wonder about this. is there any detailed event chain that we can follow like in kr, or the mod is all about the scenery and nothing else?
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>>174833341
While the galaxy filling up has it's downsides, a benefit is the outcasting of pirates. Less and less roam the emptyness, with only a few remaining in outlandish parts of the galaxy.

While Alzuk system will be wiped out of pirates (With the 4th Fleet losing not a single ship), Ehuiry can't be colonized due to it's location in bug space

That will have to be corrected sooner or later

Is DW accepted here, or am I posting for no reason?
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>>174839491
keep going faggot
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>>174804862
Divergances mod, was in the title. Really nice as far as alt-history goes in any case.

>>174836554
>>174836836
It's multiple references in one,

* The lack of people and terrain is a reference to the kind of colonies Germany was able to get by the time they unified and rolled onto the scene - and this more a reference to SW Africa, of what would become Namibia today. It's also a reference to the relative lack of people in German colonies to even exploit (propaganda, but true in some sense). And the taming of the crocodile is a nod to 'civilizing', and the perfect drill order giraffes a nod to the military traditions of Germany.

* Yes and no. French colonialism has always been different from other colonialisms in that they've ruled with at least a measure of inclusion of the ruled. It doesn't mean they thought the natives were "better" than other powers did, but they were always willing to tie down roots in colonies. Whether it was incorporating native chieftans as part of the administrative process, or gradually making a colony more loyal by having kids with them, France did it. That's not to say other people didn't either, but France had this style, whether it was French North America, North Africa, Indochina, etc.

The funniest part is the Germans did all of the above in that picture.
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>>174835776
>>174835261
MAD LADS!
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>>174837238
Can anyone explain this
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>>174830308
>south africa isn't in africa
How can people live with being objectionally wrong?
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>>174840403
I thought this was Rhodesia?
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>>174840427
it's my game and luck is the only thing i can use to explain it
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>>174840403
I thought this was Northern Ireland?
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m&T2 officially dropped

he's not only a redditor but also not a virgin
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>>174840743
>I thought this was Northern Ireland?
>you will never get deployed to Ulster and get to repress filthy micks
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>>174840820
delet this right now
t.m&tidf
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>>174840403
>>174840595
>>174840743
Pretty sure this is Mad Mike Hoare and his merry band. Well, maybe. In the Congo anyways.

>>174840595
Rhodesia isn't tropical.
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>>174840905

sorry but I can't trust a modder who has been inside a woman
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>>174840820
fuck off liquorkid
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>>174840912
The Tropic of Capricorn runs south of Zimbabwe's border. By definition, both Zimbabwe and Zambia (the Rhodesias) are tropical.
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>>174841058

stay mad, Damian

I'll keep playing BASED vanilla eu4 + DLCs done by Johan "The legend"
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>>174840912
>Mad Mike Hoare
shit merc
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>>174840990
>>174841219
hellooooooo likorgruppe
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>>174840912
Was Katanga /our state/?
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What is the fastest known westernization time for Japan in V2? I just westernized in December 1848 but I can't unify the islands because Meiji isn't on the thrown yet.
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>>174841546
>increase intellectuals in each state to 4% and maintain it
thats literally all there is. you could easily make 3rd in industry by end of game.

unfortunately youll have to wait for the restoration which could happen as late as 1865
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>>174841730
What?
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>>174839626
k
>>174839491
However, the scum still lurk in the shadow. The raid of Kyrellea Prime, a world we found full of pre-space humans who joined our empire, is daring to say the least. Kyrellea is the hub of our northern galaxy empire, and the meduim space station was built with protection in mind. Sadly, the nearest fleet, the 2nd, is a whole sector away. At breakneck speed they fly, and they will fight alone; Fleets 3-5 patrol the southern sectors, while the 1st is in our north eastern most colony dealing with a giant Ardilus, the largest in recorded history.

The empire prays that the station can hold out until the fleet arrives. If pirates can raid the third largest planet in the empire, where can't they strike?

(On a good note, the planet's ground forces currently outnumber the invaders, 90k vs 60k)
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Any clue why ai keep suiciding?
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>>174841512

vicky2 is utter garbabe too
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>>174842231
general trait?
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>>174782224
Why is stellaris considered 4x instead of grand strategy?

It's my second favorite paradox game and I've always recommended it as a grand strategy to irl goons.
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>>174840820
>not a virgin
how do you know?
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>>174841509
Name a good merc.
Hardmode: NO Arkan.
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>>174842468
Because this general was proto-/his/ and we onky want historical games here.
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>>174842504

he has two daughters
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>>174842534
the only good merc is a dead merc
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>>174842912
>>>/r/paradoxplaza
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this kills the empire
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>>174842468
>instead
It could be both. Grand strategy is more vague and 4x is more specific, so it goes to the specific general.
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Since EU4 is the best grand strategy for beginners, what is the best grand strategy for bored old people with grandchildren?

Dominions 4?
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>>174843068
>with grandchildren
i wish i could know my blood line was secure
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>>174842231
1. can't properly take into account loss of mandate
2. they attack sieges about to finish no matter what
3. they think they can drain you of manpower
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>>174843191
I got incredibly lucky finding a girl willing to stay with me, and then raising 2 kids who wouldn't be total fuck ups. Then they had a kid last year and I'm going to be killing myself before I go senile after I see them graduate from like elementary school.

In the meantime I'm just playing video games until that day comes.
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I really did deserve this, but I would have thought HIP would prevent this.
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>>174843409

how old are you senpai
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>>174843409
On the 5% chance you're not a lying fuck then Bravo, I genuinely envy you.
post wrinkled skin with a timestamp or fuck off
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>>174843409
>my wife's sons

should've done it sooner senpai
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did i do it right
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>>174843712
death penalty for weed smokers
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>>174843712
>>>/r/paradoxlplaza
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>>174842089
Into the cold night we do not go

The heroic defenders of the Kyrellea Prime space station would be honored by the planet with a yearly celebration honoring their defense of the planet. Out numbered and outgunned, the defenders managed not only to repulse the largest pirate assault in Empire history, but managed to destroy at least two pirate cruisers; day by day their numbers dwindle.

While the pirates were able to raid the numerous mining station in the system during the attack, the arrival of the 2nd Fleet (days after the attacked ended on the station) sent them scattering back into the darkness.

Meanwhile at Sol, the government is in a fury. Pirates were considered gone from the Empire; present in far off bases on the outer spirals of the galaxy, other empire's problems. For one to attack Kyrellea Prime, in such strength too, was the nightmare of every colony without a Fleet present. The military was ordered expended with another Fleet immediately ordered and another ordered afterwards. What more, the military was ordered to find the raiders......

Not to sound like a bitch, bu is anyone reading these?
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>last few rulers were hermetics, two of them were Magus
>every new ruler is a rush to get enough learning to join the hermetics for those sweet, sweet magnus opus bonuses
>>
Where can I find the run down on different types of strategy games

>grand statregy
>4x4
>rts
>other shit

any genres to avoid?
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>>174844302
tfw got raided and lost magnus opus
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>>174844382
the genre that actually makes you pay money to play a game.
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>>174844382
>Grand Strat
Historical, very broad, usually not very deep (except HoI3 which straddles a genuine wargame)

>4X
Games in the game genre as Civilization and Sid Meier's Alpha Cent

>RTS
Gook-click like Starcraft, I recommend Shoutcraft Kings as a good spectator sport whether you actually like the game or not

>Avoid
Whatever floats your goat
>>
>get really hyped to play vic2
>always eventually get bored late game when I have to upgrade forts and naval bases individually and army and navy control is so annoying and having to pause to influence because the austistic ai influences for a couple days then moves to something else
>>
>>174841509
Erm, considering his exploits, that he succeeded at most of them, and that he's going to more or less die on his terms, I'd say he's a shoe in to the pantheon of legendary mercenaries.

Another modern merc legend would of course be Nellis. But there's lots. But Mad Mike is a legend from they very heydays.

>>174841532
Katanga was pretty based. And maybe even white (mentality). Sadly, they faced the UN at a time when the UN could still bring some firepower to the table instead of just raping children and wasting money.

>>174843409
This makes me sad

>>174843628
He's right. I want to see gnarly timestamp.
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>>174844598
>not playing isolationist
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>>174844574
Is there any other types I forgot?

Stellaris looks good but I'm thinking of trying Warcraft 3 instead
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>>174844382
The only genres really worth avoiding are mobile strategy games.
>>
i think i have terminal autism. other than certain exceptions, i can no longer accept playing as a country that doesn't ATLEAST have a ceremonial monarchy.

>>174844598
that's why you should play as minor countries
>>
First two are autistic shit focused on wrecking awful AI and getting joy from watching your borders/income grow, and the AI somehow actually gets worse every year, and RTS are autistic multiplayer games that have been totally eclipsed by MOBAs
>>
>>174782224
When is Paradox going to stop milking CK2 form DLC cash and make a sequel?
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>>174844653
Katanga and Biafra proves that black ≠ nigger.
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>>174844809
never ck2 is good
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>>174844653
Katanga was just a resource puppet, let me guess, you supported the NATO invasion of Libya too?
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>>174844962
and you prove that ""white"" = nigger.

i bet that you are a pardinho from south brazil who thinks he is white
>>
>>174844971

they need to expand the game outside of events,it starts to get boring since you're basically playing a text adventure
>>
So I downloaded ck2 with dlc from the link, the dlc is not showing up in game, I can't choose early middle or viking ages.
am i just being a dumdum? help
>>
>start playing Hoi
>enjoy planning research, building armies
>super autistic about my navy
>hate the combat

>get bored of Vicky after 50 years, done almost every type of run already

>reach unstoppable status in EU after 50-100 years, left with 300 years of blobbing or autistic world police actions

>CK2 is just a diceroll, sometimes super fun, mostly just staring at the map waiting for an event to pop up or a child to be born

I really need something to bring me back into these games
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>>174845076
Go back to >>>/r/paradoxplaza, kid, the adults are trying to talk.
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OH SHIT AM I GONNA GET GALILEO'D
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>>174845120
>he actually downloaded from that link
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>>174845076

>brasileiro
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>>174845140
>hate the combat

???
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>>174845165
>>174845249
found the """"white"""" south brazillian

go back to /luso/ to suck caxia's dick
>>
>>174845120
there was probably a skidrow/crack folder in what you downloaded. copy/paste one of the cracks (steam.ini usually) into the installation path.
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>>174844962
Ojukuwu was definitely /ourguy/

It's really fucking sad to read about the Biafran War, and how up against a wall they were. An interesting note was that it was when international aid groups could still be badass - it was actually the birth of MSF. And Church Aid, they literally had old battle priests in hassocks or smocks supervising the offloading of food, medicine, and weapons. And more than one had been martyred by Nigerian assholes. Exceptionally brave people all around.

>>174844809
Supposedly this was the last CK2 DLC.
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>>174845281

não tá na hora do stormfront ir dormir não?
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>>174845140
>>start playing Hoi
>>enjoy planning research, building armies
>>super autistic about my navy
>>hate the combat
Fucking this/10.

I set up an ebin gross armiums, all perfect and pristine, then war comes and it inevitaboy gets FUCKED, the corp HQs have to be within 4 provinces of ALL divisions under it, if the front gets a single line wider or to a lesser degree shorter then the entire chain of command is fucked, I fucking know EXACTLY what you mean, laddo.
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>>174845439
so you assume being a pardinho?
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>>174844382
>4x
Strategy game where you control an empire and expand(create new land), exterminate(take land from others), explore(find new land), exploit(make use out of land)
Typically turn based.
>Grand Strategy
Game where you use a nations wide variety of resources to project yourself militarily.
Typically historical and simulative.
>RTS
Strategy game where you micro and macromanage in real time to defeat your opponent. Real time.
Typically includeas base building.
>TBS
A turn based strategy game. May or may not be a 4x.
Games like Warlords, Homm lack the defining expand X from 4xes and therefore plays very differently.
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>>174843881
Fucking brainiac subhumans

The Empire is in a state of near revolt after it was discovered the pirate, the Fearsome Rock Confederation, has their main base in Ethur Major, a system not only in control, but colonized by the Kiadian Alliance, our western neighbor who we have a defense pact with as well as being one of our major trading powers. While our colonial borders have created some arguments between us, some are using this fact as justification to raise the banner of war.

While cooler heads prevail (Although the theory of the Kiadian allowing the pirates to raid still remains, but is shouted down by the idea of just their total incompetence on wrestling control of a far out colony), plans are made for swift justice upon the base and the Rock Confed. With or without our "allies", these scum will be removed from the map, as 2/3 of the fury of Sol comes crashing down on these outlaws.

The dead at Kyrellea will have their vengeance, as Ethur Major burns.

While that's all for tonight, I'm seriously wondering, is anyone paying attention to this? While I'm not just being a whore for (you)s, some would be nice to know there are people reading. I just wanted to put gsg in /gsg/
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>>174845559

não sou br*sileiro, graças a Deus
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>>174845140
play mp

after 100 years, switch nation
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>>174845784
"sulistas" are brazillians even if you don't want it
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>>174845724

yes

I'm actually reinstalling the game desu
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>>174845069
I love people who think they're smart because they went to /pol/ and got """"redpilled"""". If you knew or bothered to learn even a quarter of the shit Ghaddafi had done, you would have thought a knife up his asshole was a merciful punishment. And that's before you probably, unironically believe Libyan state propaganda as "facts" too. Let me guess, Cubans also have free healthcare and doctors on every corner too, amirite?

To give but one of many, many examples - if you goto Sierra Leone, you're likely to see quite a few people still with either stumps or prosthetic arms and legs. That goes back to Ghaddafi.
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>>174845406
You just can't beat the system. (((International finance))) wanted that Niger deltan oil and they were damn well going to get it. At least if it was Arabs the leftists would have spoken up about it but because dude Africa lmao nohody cared.

I genuinely think that continent could make a go of it if they were allowed to split into homogeneous nation states and were given western support (not blind airdrops of food, that moreoften than not go to warlords and al-durkas) I mean genuine help to develop their national infastructure to a modern level.

Fuck it, why couldn't Mosley have won, Africa would be kangz now had he been allowed to make an Imperial federation.
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>>174845862

sou americano senpai, mas minha mamãe é brasileirinha
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>>174845949
>muh feefees
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>>174845949
>BOMB libya
>SHOOT DOWN an iranian PASSANGER jet
>libya retaliates
>WAAH DADDY THE MEAN ARAB MAN IS A TERRORIST
Fuck off.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1986_United_States_bombing_of_Libya
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655
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>>174846073
still brazillian
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>tfw no nuclear-age tall-focused gee-ess-gee

is it because normies only like blobbing thus making it not profitable for paracuck?
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>when an infidel says the world is round so you try to capture his lands for allah but the rest of the christian world joins on his side anyways
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>>174845949
I don't care what he did to some niggers as long as he kept terrorists in check.
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>>174845375
>>174845237
maybe i should just buy it desu
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>>174845641
Thanks a lot anon :)
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>>174846445
Yes. EvW was cancelled so you could play hearts of blobs 4.
>the absolute potential of a cw grand strat
>you will NEVER be a rogue nuclear state wo everyone fears invading because they'll get blown to kingdom come
>you will never interfere in proxy wars with mercenaries
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>>174846507
>buying paradox games
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>>174846507
how fucking complicated is what i said?
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>>174846445
WHAT IF they added new ways to blob?

For examples, trade network mapmodes to paint in.
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>>174846669

simply ebin
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>>174846507
that's right goy
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I'm trying to learn EU4 so I picked Castile to play.
Now it says on the wiki the Iberian wedding event shouldn't fire if either Aragon or Castile has a regency but it just fired for me while I'm in a regency.
Can someone explain what's going on?
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Looking to get into strategies games
I've only played like 2hrs of Civ but I never can get into them


What should I play to get into them?
Thinking of WC3 or Stellaris?
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>>174846773
>there will never be a "level of influence" map mode, where the more money you invest the more loyal the puppet becomes
I just want Franąfrique.
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>>174846616
no thank you
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>>174846773

that would never satisfy the blobber's power fantasy

they simply NEED to win those ebin encirclements
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>>174846779
r8 my meme >>174793326
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>>174846870
The Wiki is often outdated, because there's extensive patches all the time. It says the version number for which the text has been verified for above sections.
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>>174846756
i don't know what you mean by installation path and what exactly you wanted me to copy/paste,
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>>174846913
What thematic genres do you like?

Fantasy, history, sci fi?
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>>174847030
So then Iberian Wedding can indeed fire under a regency.
I'm guessing I shouldn't take it if it makes me the lesser partner of a Personal Union?
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anyone know how to de-ironman a save for eu4? I'm trying to convert the save to victoria but apparently you cant do that with an ironman save file
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>>174847121
Sci fi if possible seems the most fun

The other two are alright but sci fi seems better
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>>174847209
>So then Iberian Wedding can indeed fire under a regency.
Apparently, but I don't know. One can just look into the game files to check the conditions, though. The event files are written so that people not proficient in coding can somewhat understand them.

>I'm guessing I shouldn't take it if it makes me the lesser partner of a Personal Union?
The only benefit from being a junior partner is protection from bullies wanting to swallow you up. As Castille, you don't need that. In fact, Aragon will either need to lose so much that they have negative prestige when they die for you to gain your freedom again, or you will have to fight a costly war for independence. Then again, you can easily gain allies while being a junior partner asking for support for independence. That's a way for you to ally France or other countries that hate you right now. (Supporters for independence will become your allies after the victorious war.)
Reject it, if it makes you a junior partner.
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>>174847071
left (red outline) is the crack. it should be inside what you downloaded. it even has a readme for retards like you.

right (green) is where your game was installed. this is where you place the crack.
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Is hearts of iron IV worth getting? I've put about 300 hours into hearts of iron III and just want to know what they really updated in it? Or are there more mods for IV? thanks.
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tf do i do here

have guangdong and fujian sphered, machuria is civilized and puppeted

truce with big blue blob till 1914

ive mostly been just relaxing building industry and such
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>>174847738
>That's a way for you to ally France or other countries that hate you right now

That part is fine. I already allied France because they didn't rival me.
I guess I'll have to conquer Aragon militarily to form Spain since the event will only fire once.
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>>174847963
on sale its pretty worth it

the only thing that sucks is the AI really, and the supply being kind of hand wavey but otherwise its a pretty ok game

but the combat is abysmal when the AI is bad
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>>174847968
>puppetting Manchukuo
>not annexing while uncivved for huge industry
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>>174847530
What games have you played so far?

>RTS
Starcraft
Red Alert 2
Starcraft 2

I don't really like sc2, but you need way less apm to play it compared to sc1, so if you haven't really played rts before it might be easier to get into.

>4x
Ask in /civ4xg/ how call to power 2 is.
I have only played the first one, it starts historical like civ, but you get into sci fi shit with eco terrorists that have bombs that turn cities into forests, cities in space, under water.
I played the first one not too long ago, but I had to fiddle a bit to get it working and it took a very long time to load for some reason, so if the second one plays better, maybe try that one.

Master of Orion 1 or 2, Stellaris.
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>>174848112
i could not, i never had the option to take concessions or protectorate while they were unciv

prob some shit with HPM, al i could do is take a treaty port but that blows when russia already has one
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>>174848235
No, I mean you conquer them while YOU are an unciv.
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>>174848291
thats really gamey and lame nty
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>>174848356
Grow the fuck up, faggot.
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>>174846779

>TFW you crush commie Mosley

>TFW you've lived the longest day
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>>174848496
>LONDONderry
based
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>>174848460
>playing grand strategy for minmax superiority over some of the worst AI imaginable

lmao
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WHY AREN'T THE DAMN JAPS ATTACKING ME

I really don't want to attack them when I have mountains and a +4 defense general just sitting here
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>>174848496
>that province count
Is HOI2 just Doomstack: the game? How are you supposed to maneuver and flank when shit is just 1-2 provinces wide?
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>>174848496
have you set up a puppet state in france yet?
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>>174848121
autismo
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>hear some 19th century german patriotic songs
>just want them to get their historical land back

i am a nationalist and germany (especially with its' establishment) is an enemy of my country, but this is too much. i feel bad for them. please UN let them remilitarize and allow them to take prussia back. they took their lesson. this is
way too much.
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>>174848676
the technology just isnt there yet anon

also yes people look at hoi2 combat with notsalgia goggles too often it was pretty shit if you werent fighitng a large front war
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>tfw your vassal inherits a massive fucking chunk of land
Tuscany, Latium and Corsica for free.

Should've controlled realm inheritance, Italy.
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>>174848676
it's just scotland.
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>>174848798
>germany wanting territory filled with poles and russians
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>>174848778
reddit
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>>174848969
they will be expelled
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When the germans are too pussy to invade the UK so the Italians do it and annex Britain
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>>174849054
>tfw the germans almost tried it after unification
still there are too many poles and russians to expel effectively without the world flipping out again
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they REALLY don't want to attack so I'm going to have to send these guys into the meat grinder. I mean I have plenty of guys to send.
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>>174849334
>the germans almost tried it after unification
[Citation needed]
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>>174849569
any history book, you illiterate fuck
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>>174849087
>that Italian corridor leading to the channel isles
>commie congress poland surrounded by Axis
>germans got Yugos before you
>you didn't reclaim Egypt/Syria
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>>174848121
Thanks my man

I've only played Civ 5, Attila and 20 minutes of Stellaris.

Do any of these games have good a story? or is it like fighting games?
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>>174849569
>In March 1990, the West German Chancellor Helmut Kohl caused a storm, when he suggested that a reunified Germany would not accept the Oder–Neisse line, and implied that the Federal Republic might wish to restore the frontier of 1937, by force if necessary.[77] Kohl further added that in a statement of 1 March 1990 that he would only recognize the Oder–Neisse line if Poland promised to pay compensation to the Germans expelled after 1945 and if Poland promised not to seek reparations for the sufferings of Polish slave labourers in Germany and reparations for the damage done by German forces to Poland during World War II.[78] After's Kohl's note caused a massive international backlash that threatened to derail the process for German reunification, Kohl hastily changed track, and said that a reunified Germany would accept the Oder–Neisse line after all, and that he would not seek to link recognizing the Oder–Neisse line to talks about compensation. In November 1990, after German reunification, the Federal Republic of Germany and the Republic of Poland signed a treaty confirming the border between them, as requested by the Treaty on the Final Settlement With Respect to Germany. Earlier, Germany had amended its constitution and abolished Article 23 of West Germany's Basic Law (on which reunification was based), which could have been used to claim the former German eastern territories.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oder%E2%80%93Neisse_line
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174849741
B A I T
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>>174848798

>of my country

What country would that be anon?
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okay good

taiwan stays chinese
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>>174849692
I got Iraq and a good cut of the caucus at least
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How do I get the warlord era to not happen
I heard you need a certain amount of prestige, that war didn't get me hardly any at all.
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I just finished my first campaign of HoI4. I played with my friend who played as America. I played as Iran and went fascist and took over most of the Middle East. I wish I knew that these games were so much fun.
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>>174849852
Syria
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>>174850039
>province of canada
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>>174850045
how are you on the internet
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>tfw Yankees' won't move into American Africa
I have made a mistake.
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>>174849087
Caesar would be proud.
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>>174850205
He's HPM.
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>>174850205
the same way you are
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>>174850252
>Colonizing Africa as a Yank
You disgust me
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what group is hpm with over there
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>>174850302
????
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>>174850165
Allies got mega fucked by like 1938 after the Soviet Union fell to glorious Nippon. When the UK capitulated, Facist Canada came to be. My friend playing America was too busy invading Mexico with his "Operation: Make Mexico Great Again" to give a fuck about the war. And I was busy taking over Afghanistan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Oman, SinKiang, Tibet, Nepal, Bhutan, New Zealand, and part of Brazil.

By the end of the game the only "Allies" were led by Norway and fucking Columbia. It was a shitshow.

>>174850045
Be safe Syria Bro
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>>174850039
>That map
HOI4 is so fucking bad, holy shit.
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>>174848496

>unit sprites

could you delete
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>>174850024
You don't.
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>>174850714
this is what happens when you hire trannie indie devs who just got a course on anti-aliasing and want to practice it instead of refined artists who know exactly what colors would please the eye and what artstyle would provide immersion.
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>>174850549
thanks senpai. will probably live to see this country getting rebuilt if trump doesn't go full autismo and continues these strikes.
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>>174850978
Actually, I meant borders and shit. HOI4 is too much "sandboxy", even in the historical campaign, leading to constant border gore.
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apparently the pope got over me discovering the earth rotates around the sun really quickly

this has been a really fun run so far, I started as the Count of Ferraris in the Old Gods start
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>>174846779
>physically superior
>some skinny manlet
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>>174850335
I got cuba and the failopines already. I am on a mission to civilize. But they ain't god damn moving in or assimilating.
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>>174851116
What are your opinions on Gaddafi, Nasser and Sadaam?
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>>174851370
Tecnnically it's superior to being a fat fuck.
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Look mom, I posted it again!
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>>174851554
Assad is based
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god damn it

I wonder if I should just let this happen
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>>174851554
>Sadam
full autismo when it came to international politics and reckless. but he was a necessary evil.
>Gaddafi
almost as autistic as sadam, but way more nicer than him. didn't deserve that end. libya is now a shithole.
>Nasser
cool guy. yes he was a socialist, but it worked out in the end. could have tried too be on friendlier terms with jews and west.
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>>174852409
>could have tried too be on friendlier terms with jews and west.
How? Israkikel were taking over Arab land.
>>
>tfw sunset invasion is actually fun

never listening to you autismos again
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>>174852562
escalating tensions while diplomatic alternatives exist is nearly how every war since ww1 has started.

besides, i was mostly refering to the suez incident. thousands of deaths could have been avoided if he picked a diplomatic approach. he only ended up winning because of the UN, otherwise it would be just like the falklands.
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>>174853009
>diplomatic alternatives
>this is our land now mudslimes xDxD
Do you genuinely think Israel was going to be diplomatic? Syria is going to become an Israeli occupation zone in the next decade.
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has anyone done a sucessful run as the chosen people in EU4?
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>behold the might of ROOOOOOME
Not even better tech, just good terrain, stacked morale bonuses, and a god general with six shock.
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>>174853724
Fuck off back to >>>/r/paradoxplaza, BIG_BENIS_IN_MY_ANUS
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>>174853825
u wot
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>>174852852
Nobody said it wasn't fun, it's just unbalanced and extremely ahistorical.
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>>174853724
>West Rome
SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP
>>
Friendly reminder that this eu4 shit poster is none other than BIG_BENIS_IN_MY_ANUS, notorious reddit shitposter and the one responsible for the deletion of the archive. Do not respond to his posts, do not give him attention. He is the enemy of all decent folks.
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>>174853906
I was playing Han before this, but 500 years of stability got boring so I triggered Mandate loss and tagged to Rome about 70 years before that screenshot, when it had exactly one province left - the Baleric Isles.
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>Start as Granada
>Abandon Europe, colonise South Africa and conquer Madagascar
>While conquering Madagascar, Münster gets into a war with Spain and somehow forces them to return my cores

Well. this is unexpected.
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>>174853724
West Rome is best Rome!
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>>174853724
ALL OF ROME WILL BE AMAZED AT SUCH A VICTORY
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>>174853635
israel could never handle the foreign pressure over the occupation and couldn't even dream about making jewish colonies if not for the political and military blunders of the arab side.

before worrying about israel, we should see what to do about the turks. while israel is playing its' role on this they atleast have the decency to pretend that they are neutral. turkey is blatantly using this civil war for their own interests and have already invaded vast amounts of territory.
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>>174854083
>>174853448
wrong quote obviously
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>>174853991
>rome
>but white
What's there not to like?
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:(
seriously fuck these guys how are these numbers fair
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>>174854083

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Israel
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>>174854083
I've said this before and I will again

arabic countries have stockholm syndrome for turkey. turkey will continue up the path of its neo-pan-islamic thing they have going on and the arabs will look at the failure of nationalism and secularism in their countries and join the turks, as in either literally be annexed by them or just super close diplomatic ties with turkey as the dominant partner. this will be the way the middle east will sort of come into the "modern age" and have some form of stability. islamic extremism will die down with a sunni islamic republic sort of thing by turkey leading everyone.
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>>174854083
>israel could never handle the foreign pressure over the occupation and couldn't even dream about making jewish colonies if not for the political and military blunders of the arab side.
I don't know what your state media tells you, lad, but that's literally what they've been doing in the west bank for 70 years and no one has stopped them because muh holohoax.
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>>174854381
so once again, the white and based turks will save the day
why i am not surprised?
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>>174854542

erdoGOAT cannot stop winning
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>>174788496
remove stupid automatic battle AI shit and just use OOB
add actual fuel simulation, esp. for navies

That alone fixes half the game
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Which one for a Klein South Germaniums?
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>>174854519
>caring about sandniggers

They're better off dead tbqh.
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>>174854896

>OOB

you must be memeing
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>>174854935
Thank you for your input on the subject, Chayim. I love Israel now.
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>>174840820
tbqh he dislikes Trump because Trump wants to get rid of Obamacare and Obamacare is the only thing keeping his sick toddler daughter alive. Perfectly reasonable
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>>174853724
What mod is this?
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>>174855027
Tell me, Muhammad, how does it feel for your people to be nothing more than pawns for global powers and to have never accomplished anything of note except for managing to remain in the 7th century
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>>174855149

>having children in the US of A when you're not at least a multi-mullionaire
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>>174855149
maybe he should stop modding and get a job so he can actually pay for a proper healthcare?
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>>174855283
haha yeah, like why should healthcare be a human right like in every civilized country? We can't have free healthcare because that just gives children an incentive to be born with terminal illnesses. Fuck poor people!
>>
Proper thread
>>174855274
>>174855274
>>174855274
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>>174855376

>being this much of a retard

free helthcare doesn't exist -- the money has to come from somewhere you subhuman soviet
>>
REAL thread
>>174818046
>>174818046
>>174818046
>>174818046
>>174818046
>>174818046
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>>174855263
like when they forced UK to GTFO from one of the most strategic positions in the world?
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>>174855376
'free' healthcare not only costs money to everyone but it's also inferior to paid healthcare quality-wise
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>>174854963
>OOB: makes sense, allows you to micromanage as much as you want, lets you use tons of generals in a historic way, AI doesn't sperg out and can actually fight properly, rewards a skilled player for spending time on the game
>HOI4 Battle plan meme shit: One AI doing the retard shuffle vs. another AI doing the retard shuffle, holes in front lines, fronts getting split up, can't micro anything because the retarded AI constantly reroutes units, ""planning bonus""

If you're a total casual and can't handle OOB I can understand why you might like the AI shit better, but everyone knows it's ass. If they really wanted a happy medium they could've just kept in OOB and then gave the player the option to have the AI handle it.

oh another thing to fix, make planes actually exist on the map so paratroopers don't just teleport to provinces, and you can actually scout and intercept enemy planes
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>>174855570
And how is that country doing nowadays? Good infrastructure? Internet? Freedoms? Wealthy population?
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>>174854368
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Finland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Mongolia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Syria

Before there was gsg, people had to go into political theory to jerk off about nationalist blobbing. Some autists still do it. It means nothing.
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>>174855661

HOI3 is austism and HOI4 is dumb --DH's combat system is the perfect balance
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>>174855448
>free helthcare doesn't exist -- the money has to come from somewhere you subhuman soviet
Yes, from taxes like in literally every other country, do you think it's impossible to do or something? Every developed nation has it but the US because of bumpkins like you who've been brainwashed into thinking it's impossible, or it's muh gommunism, etc.

>>174855597
>free' healthcare not only costs money to everyone
it already costs money to everyone retard, who doesn't need healthcare at some point? The only difference is that people who can't afford it get fucked over and society is worse off for it.

> but it's also inferior to paid healthcare quality-wise
Wrong.
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>>174855257
extended timeline

>>174855597
>>174855448
Not even him but it costs like five times as much in the states for arguably inferior healthcare. Like a lot of things, the US goes overboard.
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>>174855789
>who doesn't need healthcare at some point?
a lot of people
and they shouldn't be forced to be paying just for the 'possibility' of them needing it
>Wrong.
let me guess, you are american?
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>>174842231
>1. can't properly take into account loss of mandate
>2. they attack sieges about to finish no matter what

Now look at the screen properly. Mandate is at 80% and Beijing siege is -57%
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>>174854381

>Fucking neo-ottoman running things in the middle east
>Actually expecting a more stable middle east from this

Holy fuck no, it is going to be a never ending clusterfuck of conflict that is never going to end as turkey start to blob all over being utter uncourteous cunt, acting holier than thou all the while. Also they are slimy as fuck, you can be sure at 125% they will work hands in hands with the Israelite and the Saudi to fuck the middle east even more, just like they do at the moment. Especially with some cunt like Erdogan running things.
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Why won't this thread die?
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>>174860389
SAD!
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