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>Was put on the naughty list
>>174715436

>The Fire Fades trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKaHQVDjJZQ

>Patch 1.13
http://store.steampowered.com/news/externalpost/steam_community_announcements/75840229415620604

>Ringed City items checklist
https://pastebin.com/724E2jEB

>Ringed City pre-launch media
http://pastebin.com/4mUsZWmv

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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Holy shit Christmas really does start earlier every year.
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god king lucifer, more like god king poocifer lmao
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>>174734403
He controls the Naughty List AND the Sleigh! He's too dangerous to be left alive!
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>>174734351
Because it literally doesn't matter? What do you even think TFF edition is? Just buy the game + season pass, and you have your TFF edition.

It's only when you have something retarded like Gearbox and the Borderlands season passes where the two aren't equivalent.
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HAND IT OVER, THAT THING
YOUR ____________________
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How'd I do /dsg/?
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>>174734632
dank bowl
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>>174734607
TFF is only 60 bucks tho, rather than the 100 bucks or whatever it costs to get all the DLC + main game.
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>>174734718
Pretty decent, chin a bit small make it a bit wider, just a tad.
Show profile maybe.
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>>174734718
Why are her eyes bloodshot
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>>174733427

>DS1's poise was retarded, but it didn't make Rapiers good. Because there are other factors involved.

I was never implying that rapier was good but the fact that a person using a weapon the size and speed of a rapier or even dagger can literally walk through almost any atrack with poise(including spells such as black flame) and are free to do whatever they choose to do while you are stuck in an attacking animations.

Ds1 poise was fucking retarded. At least current hyper armor is only available when you choose to commit to an attack.
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>>174734890
too much weed
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>>174734718
You literally posted the default female you bastard
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>>174734918
>affinity high tier
>sacred flame high tier
Is this list bait?
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>>174735059
>he doesn't know
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>>174734950
this is the default
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>>174734718
Eyes could use a little less slant, but that part is hard to fix because then it fucks up the rest of your eye depth and size
Back of the jaw could maybe use some more rounding out, it kinda looks like the front of your face is thinner than the jaw hinge, like a horse
Otherwise okay
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>>174735087
Did they finally buff dark sorceries?
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>>174735194
affinity + backstepping is pretty good, it's also great at creating space and deals good damage, specially with the mask now.
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>tfw your game crashes for the first time in 250 hours
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>>174735303
Does it out damage soul mass
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>>174735172
>>174734856
Thanks I will try changing some of that
I just realized how flat her forehead is
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>>174735303
So is a dark mage build finally viable?
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>sorcery has no poise
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>>174735485
Yep. 270~320 dmg at 40/40 with crystal chime.
>>174735531
Hah, no way.

You either use affinity with Crystal Chime/Izalith Staff or Use Dregs and other sorceries with Murky Staff.
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>invading another world...
>invasion aborted due to timeout

is it just me or does this happen way more in watchdogs than any other covenant
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>>174735523
Yeah forehead is so flat you got a corner at your scalp.
Not too sure which sliders to pull to remedy that.
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>>174734782
So wait for a sale, Steam has those at least four times a year. You missed the last one though, so it might be a while.

>>174734890
That's just how the character creator is, it's not nearly as noticeable in-game.
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>>174735579
>the only weps that give poise are those that also do the highest damage
>also little tradeoff as with enough stam you can keep swinging great weps as much as you want
Thanks for iron flesh tho, Miyazaki. 'preciate it
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Anyone on ps4 want to co-op or some thing? We can do spears of the church at low sl if you want.
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I
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>>174734918
MW and GMW are both worse than resin even with 20 int, they should be beneath literally everything. In contrast, flame arc added 95 fire damage on my astora twink which had 10/12 int/fai and a less than half upgraded flame, plus flame arc has extra duration, so it's at least less shit than the magic weapon spells. Blessed weapon is also shit compared to the base regen miracle you can use in it's place. BW adds 45 HP and some damage, whereas replenishment gives 300 hp. You need BW's bonus to equate to 255 damage if you want it to match its competitor. For a 7.5% bonus to equate to a 255 damage addition, you need to already be capable of doing 3400 damage over the course of 45 seconds without the buff. That's tantamount to killing three people. I guess if you turn a three-hit kill into a one-stunlock kill with blessed weapon, the amount of enemy healing you preemptively could cut off might make it worth it, but that's banking off of a lot of coincidence. And this is all ignoring the fact that replenishment can just be stacked with resin to bring up the damage, BW really shouldn't be above any regen miracle.

I'd raise black serpent at least into high tier. I'd also lower hidden weapon and raise magic shield. Pretty okay list though, the buffs are all I find to be really "objectively" off.
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>>174735923
>someone actually saved my screenshot

SHALL
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>>174735105
>changed the skin color
>it's somehow supposed to be completely different
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>>174735531
>can dodge most attacks by strafing while walking forward
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>>174736051
well, it's a nice screenshot

PARTAKE
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>>174736051
>>174735923
>preacher arm
>preacher head
Creeps me out how their parts are just floating around the swamp.
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>>174734950
why would you post a picture of someone licking that pussy
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>>174736176
Dude have you ever seen a bug, they molt all the damn time plus their legs pop off a lot when they move around
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>>174736083
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Best class for Dex/faith
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>>174736439
>showing they are basically the exact same
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>>174735923
>>174736051
Is there any medium/heavy armor that looks good with the preacher head
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>>174734894
You know poise doesn't mean "no damage," right? Sure they can walk through a big hit, but it is going to take a massive chunk of their health in exchange.
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>>174735923
>>174736051
>>174736165

This is what white people look like to the Japanese
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>>174736478
it'll probably end up being mercenary
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>>174736478
paladin
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>>174734918
>affinity high tier
>dregs never hit trash is high tier
>WDB never hit trash high tier
>flashsword that literally SS in "mid tier"
remove
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>>174736549
>when the insight hits just right
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>>174736549
THIS LOOKS LIKE A JOB FOR ME SO EVERYBODY JUST FOLLOW ME
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>>174736549
these guys are pretty spooky
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POST GOOD LOOKING ASHEN ONES
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>>174735531
No. This guy is just bullshitting
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>>174736478
Mercenary, if you don't intend on leveling Str at all. Cleric if you don't intend on leveling Vit at all.
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>>174736543
Ds1 was chaos blade R1 and roll backwards, Ds3 is running pokes (as far as light weapons go). All that's been reversed is the fact that now the person who's been hit actually gets stunned. Beforehand, the person who swing first was locking themselves into an animation while the person being struck was free to do as they please. Now the person being struck is locked into a hitstun animation, so they aren't given a head start on the next exchange just for losing the previous one, and since the attacker's attack animation ends before their target's hitstun animation, they can keep up momentum after landing a blow. The lack of poise rewards aggressive play in light vs light duels.
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Fear not the dock, my friend, and let the nice boat begin.
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How do I make a cute female
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>>174736534
nice goalpost moving, the sliders are different but it's hard to completely change a face when you are going back and forth trying one slider at a time to see how it looks.
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>>174736396
I was thinking the preachers got so hungry they regularly partook of each other.
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>>174736704
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>>174736780
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV26zIE0130
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>>174736165
>those gasping noises of relief they make when they're buried neck deep
>A-AHHH-hhhh
I don't know how to feel about this
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>>174736534
not him, but are you literally fucking blind?
the hairstyle is the only thing that's the same and it takes absolutely zero effort to change
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>>174735531
yes, if only by virtue of the fact that the murky hand scythe is really good>>174736780
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Anyone have a sage ring +2 they aren't using on PC?
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Someone please tell me how to filter trips. This faggot keeps replying to me even though I'm not replying to him.
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>>174736851
kek
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>>174735923
Is there a toddposting edit of the preachers yet?
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>Make a Dex/Faith char for Saint's Bident
>Commit to it, get the Bident early and stack Dex/Faith, fight through everything properly
>Entire game is harder than a minmax'd SL1 run
Your attacks bounce off wooden shields, whiff inbetween the legs of things. Oceiros is barely hittable. anything more than one enemy at a time is a nightmare because you can't line attacks up to stagger more than one thing at once. Damage output with high investment is literally worse than an unbuffed Raw SS. Get to the mini-Ancient Wyvern after plunging the first one and I can't even hit the head because the hitbox doesn't extend up enough.

Fine fuck it I'll just use a Straightsword forever Miyazaki you fucking hack.
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>>174736780
ANIME

>>174736868
misquote
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>>174736768
>stating the same thing over and over again
>somehow goal post shifting

Jesus christ you are bad at making characters and bad at defending yourself and bad at knowing fallacies.

>>174736867
Full list of their changes
>skin color
>made the eyes slightly larger
>made the nostrils larger
>ever so slighly thinned the chin

Everything else is caused by the skin changing color including the eye shadow around the eyes it looks like
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>>174736750
>The lack of poise rewards aggressive play in light vs light duels.
>DS3
Are you sure? Just never hit first and you won
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>>174736851

what legs are those?
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>>174736750
except I still just have to avoid or dodge the initial hit from the big weapon then I can stun lock them in their recover, same as always.
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>>174736704
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>>174736865
Everyone's asking for Midir r34 but where is the locust preacher r34 ?
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>>174736478
Could be herald. Maybe cleric, knight, or mercenary.
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>>174737097
Horace's set, known ingame as Executioner's set
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anyone on PC willing to give me Crucifix of the Mad King? I'll be happy to mule items, or give you something in return.
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>>174736780
>>174737053
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>>174737071
>Are you sure? Just never hit first and you won
Please show your retarded thought process for this post for my entertainment.
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>tfw didn't know about free respec exploit until recently

Heh..
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>>174736976
Not for degenerates.
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Post favorite weapon and why
That weapon skill is so good at catching people
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>>174737068
>>174734950
>You literally posted the default female you bastard
>>174736083
>>changed the skin color
>>it's somehow supposed to be completely different
Both of your claims were that I did not change the face (except for skin color). Then you proceeded to backpedal to them only being similar
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>>174737041
WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
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>>174736704
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>Desert sorceress bras are acutally underwire
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>>174737214
A true samurai only draws his blade when the lives of himself or Innocents are in danger, or do you have no honor gaijin
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>>174737041
I TOLD YOU NOT TO FALL FOR THE BIDENT MEME
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>>174737356
RNG done right
great moveset
great damage
I have a boner for STR/FTH builds
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>>174737394
>"Everyone that thinks I'm bad at making characters is the same!" : the post
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Stop posting wrong tier lists
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40/40 or 45/45 int/faith for pyro SL120?
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>>174737483
nah, I took criticism from the people who gave me things to change
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>>174736976

Yes.
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>>174737071
passive play is still the best, it's just "less" the best than it would be if we had DS1 poise
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>>174737334
But... anon...
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>>174737493
Blessed weapon isn't that good friend
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>>174737174
What exactly can you reward me with for going out of my way to help you ?
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>>174737214
>wait for attack
>punish
>wait for attack
>punish
Rocket Science in DS3
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>>174737356

I really want to use it but I hate how it's covered with shit

Fuck you From software and your fetish for adding garbage to weapons (Halal GS. ghru weapons) or make them look like garbage already (gayl's and artorias GS)
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>>174737493
>pve not included
>hidden body high tier
remove
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>>174737561
>"How'd I do?"
>It's bad
>"WOW FUKIN SHITLORD ALL WOMEN ARE CREATED EQUAL FAGGOT FUCK YOU IT'S BEAUTIFUL UNIQUE"
>You're an idiot that is bad at making characters
>"I actually asked for tips on how to make it better"
>"How'd I do" not "How can I make this better"

Wow anon, you really are a genuine piece.
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>>174737692
what do you need, compadre?
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>>174737214
Why aren't you responding to my post about the rapier
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>>174737752
you didn't say it was bad though, you said it was the default :^)
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>>174737041
>make cleric
>went with RHH and pumped strength up because faith sucks ass for a loooong time and is only good for some healing utility
>get invaded by a faith build with the bident
>their attacks do nothing but tickle me
>use perseverence
>bident bounces off my character after which I poke them with that sweet counter hit
I honestly felt bad.
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>>174737726
>DaS3 greatsword of artorias icon shows the pretty version
>it's actually the ABYSSED one
I will never not be mad about this
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>>174737625
actually passive play is much stronger without poise, because after their attack, they are left vulnerable to combos during their recovery.
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>>174737834
Which is bad.

Also, it's bad.
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>>174737883
except it's weaker to follow up swings
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>>174737784
I think you know.
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>>174737862
RHH?
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>>174737437

oops forgot pic
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>>174738027
Red Hilted Halberd
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>>174737862
I tries to warn yall about the bident memes. I fell for early after that samefag kept going on and on about it.

Never again
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>>174738050
thanks for bringing us the truth pervert
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>>174737963
i'm not sending you pictures of my dick
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>>174737493
Delete Dregs from the list. Crystal Hail has better chance to hit someone than Dregs.
Deep Soul has dead zone in melee range
Soulmass has faster casting speed than Crystal version and Affinity. It's more effective.
You don't cast Heavy Soul Arrow. You cast Great Soul Arrow because of casting speed/damage
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>>174737437
>>174738050
Thanks Reddit
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Stop talking shit about the Bident, it's the best weapon for girls, just like Lightning Arrow is the girl Miracle.
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>>174737695
>punish
How? Or is this whole argument based around the idea that every time you swing it's because you were baited into whiffing into the air, by somebody already ready to counter from the very edge of your range?
There's an easy answer to that. Stop missing.

>>174737820
wut.
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Canvas Talisman is best for 40 Faith Lightning Blade builds, fight me faggots
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>lightning Arrow

I can finally do my Princess Zelda cosplay

What should she use for a weapon?
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>>174737947
>swing once, whiff, and begin recovery before second swing

In DaS1:
>they hit you with their tooth pick
> you don't care and slap their shit with a second hit, you trade second hits, and you stunlock them infinitely

In DaS3;
>they hit you with their tooth pick
>you are not staggered for their full combo, get hit with a laggy roll catch, and you die

Tell me again how DaS3 poise is more beneficial to large weapons.
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>>174738282
Bident is fine in PvP, but why are so many weapons complete garbage in PvE compared to a SS or Ultra?
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>>174738397
She has a rapier in Twilight Princess iirc
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What would be a good build for this fashion? I tried one and it sucked so Im sad
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>>174738397
Bident. It's the number one weapon for high faith toons.
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>>174738328
>How?
Learn from masters
>https://www.youtube.com/user/enisle2004
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>>174738451
Ricards rapier + lightning blade? Blessed Ricards?
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>>174738398
well I can't beat made up scenarios that don't happen
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>>174737883
>ahktually
>after their attack, they are left vulnerable to combos during their recovery.
That's only if you wiff completely; if you at least force a roll, your opponent will typically have more recovery than you. Thus this only applies applies to slow heavy weapons players who throw out bait swings, and you'd get everything you're asking for by just giving them more hyperarmor frames during their recovery. There's no reason to enable full poise for what you're asking about. On most of them it would make literally zero difference even if they had infinite poise because you just trade their R1 for a backstab during their endlag, which won't get poised through either way. It's a moveset problem, not a poise problem.
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>>174738463
offhand crossbow, none of that gael shit either
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>>174737174
any kindly anons out there?
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What makes Gotthard's so much better than the other twinswords? It feels so slow
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>>174738639
Damage and thrusting attacks
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>>174738639
its a SS and not a CS, the R1s are definitely faster and have more reach, plus you get a kickass rolling attack

on the flipside, the sellsword's have a cool flipkick and can combo into their weaponart from an R1
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>playing Breath of the Wild

>you can dye armours any colours you want, individual pieces even

When the fuck is Fromsoft going to hurry up with this shit, it's not hard

You design every armour's diffuse map to be colourless/white and you have an alpha channel mask that you can tint parts with
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>>174738550
What are your thoughts on this

>>174734894
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>>174738713
>thrusting attacks
I love those. You can even do two consecutive thrusts.
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>>174738630
I can help
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In retrospect, placing the entrance to the first DLC so early (and putting an entrance to the second at the end of the first) shows some basic awareness by From. They know the early game in DaS3 is absolute dogshit, might as well let people in NG+ cycles have fun in the DLC's before doing that sleep inducing swamp.
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>>174738730
>ds2_player_plays_ds3.webm
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>make a 2nd character
>get to dancer
>get ptsd from losing to her on my first character for a whole fucking day
>beat her first try
what the fuck? getting good feels so fucking satisfying, turns out i sucked shit at dodging
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>enisle2004
>Faith Build PVP
Unexpected
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>>174738506
You're utterly basic if you think this gameplay is just, waiting for a fast weapon swing and reactively punishing it via magic and plot armour.
Retreating is generally an advantage in a spacing fight and carries no penalty because the game is degenerate, but you still can't be whiff punished if you don't whiff.
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https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/180865

Reposting my first sorcerer build ( nothing special I imagine )
Looking for any tips and tricks for allocation of stats or spell tips.
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>>174738549
>damage control
The thing is, they do happen. That is the exact strategy I use to deal with poise-fags in DaS3 that are aiming for trades. Just make them whiff or I block a hit, then land a combo on them, fit them with a roll catch fireball, then rinse and repeat.

>>174738550
I don't roll though. I hold up my shield while stepping just out of their range. With a good connection, they whiff, else it just registers as me blocking their attack.
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>>174738745
You don't even need to do that, with modern shader setups, namely PBR, all the colouring material stuff is done in engine anyway not part of a texture, these days they only use textures as part of grunge masks within the materials. They could literally have an ingame variable just change any material colour parameter on anything if they wanted to in a PBR setup. DaS3's engine is still very outdated. Funny, because I thought BB's shader system looked more modern to me at the time.

What they need to actually do is hurry up and use a good engine. For what DaS3 looks like, it runs pretty fucking bad.

They should use that engine that shitty sjew Horizon game uses, since that's actually really good and they might actually have a chance to get 60fps on a console with that one since Kojima is apparently doing it.
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>>174738909
Okay. I'm at High Wall. Pass: king
What do you want in return?
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You guys have any good recommendations for a STR/FTH build? I might pick up the Crucifix later, but I'm holding off for now. Thinking something like a Blessed Lothric Knight GS maybe.
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>>174739157
I'm on my way. I don't need anything.
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>>174739094
>>damage control
>The thing is, they do happen. That is the exact strategy I use to deal with poise-fags in DaS3 that are aiming for trades. Just make them whiff or I block a hit, then land a combo on them, fit them with a roll catch fireball, then rinse and repeat.
Oh you're one of those I have to have the last word autists that makes up scenarios constantly and bends reality to fit what they're saying. I'm going to ignore you now don't reply to me
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anyone want to run through irithyll dungeons at 65+6 with me on PC

pass is dsg
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>>174737191
This will forever be one of my favorite webms
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>>174739228
Rush to Irithyll for DSA because that thing is great with buffs. I wouldn't worry about putting blessed or lightning on most weapons though since you can get more damage from weapon buffs then from elemental infusions
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Ok i need some help here, im doing a warrior build with Ringed Spear and Black Knight Sword as my weps. I have done some tinkering, narrowed it down to two options and i want some input
>Full on quality with 40 VIG and 35 END, any crossbow as ranged option
>35/35 Quality with 50 faith and lightning arrow , 30 VIG and 20 END

What should i do?
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Could the <leading to Midir> memes have potential duckroll capabilities ?
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>>174739352
> 2 + 2 = 4
>>Oh you're one of those I have to have the last word autists that makes up scenarios constantly and bends reality to fit what they're saying. I'm going to ignore you now don't reply to me

KEK
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>>174739245
can't see it
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Quality test
is it good enough now?
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>>174739672
Sorry, I don't know why you couldn't see it. Maybe because it was +2?
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>>174739357
still there?
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I want Lothric and Gwyndolin to cum on my face
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can somone on PC please drop me gaels GS.

im at highwall, pword is dsg
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I just beat SoC SL1 first try, does that make me a good player?
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>>174740119
Only on tuesdays.
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>>174740102
Only if you give me the name, bucko
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>>174738168
I want feet pictures.
I'm at highwall, pw is dsg, my red sign is down
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>>174734894
>>174738817
Not really sure? Most of the rapierfags I fought in DS1 also used shields, so poise definitely wasn't "nessecary" for them to be good since they would avoid getting hit a lot anyway. Though if shields weren't viable, then poise might have done an okay job at taking their place. Or not. Ultimately you'd be better off with a falchion if you were just trying to be a poise-lawnmower.

Either way it isn't worth bringing in Ds1 poise because rapiers are already lowkey pretty good in 3 when used in conjunction with a crossbow. Everyone complaining about people spamming lightning arrows then throwing out a quick attack after their opponent rolls up seriously needs to look at avelyn+estoc builds. (Though prepare to get fucked by shields if you try it.)

>>174738963
>ds2_player_plays_ds3.webm
no that's this webm

>>174739094
>people who miss get punished
And only people who miss, that's my point. You haven't been able to come up with a counterexample which doesn't involve people whiffing. The fact that the lack of poise prevents people from getting off scott-free for missing an attack doesn't dampen aggressive play; simply having hitboxes on the field =/= aggressive play. Camping in the corner in a fighting game and throwing projectiles is not something anyone would consider aggressive, it's just campy. Someone who keeps missing with hyperarmor swings in hopes you'll run into one is unagressive for the same reason someone who runs away spamming farron darts is unagressive; inconveniencing them is not inconveniencing aggressive play.
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>>174740239
dollface_ or edie
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>>174739542
DSA?
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>>174740119
Only if you've defeated TW&TD at sl 1, without ledge cheese.
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>>174740256
>Not really sure?
You are missing the point. My point isn't about rapiers
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>>174739692
>tfw can't see shit with the ledo hammer
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>>174734894
>a person using a weapon the size and speed of a rapier or even dagger can literally walk through almost any atrack with poise and are free to do whatever they choose to do while you are stuck in an attacking animations.
They're free to do whatever they choose to do, except if what they choose to do is attack then they're stuck in just the same way as you are. If they start trading hits with you, after you have a headstart having already hit them in the face, and they're only using a Dagger, then they lose. The gameplay is moronic, but the ability to get hit in the face without being staggered doesn't automatically favour the fast weapon. It favours weapons with the highest DPS, the fastest poise break, or weapons which would otherwise have a relatively hard time connecting hits.

The important part is that 'whatever they choose to do' can include a backstab. But backstabs are best performed with huge weapons and the speed of a dagger therefore isn't relevant. Everything having poise is worse for fast weapons than nothing having poise, because poise mitigates the most important advantage of a fast weapon. The ability to hit first.

HA is a mechanic which can be used to make slow weapons more viable, in a game where people actually swing their weapons instead of just backstabbing with them. DS3's HA system makes more sense than DS1 poise because it creates a unique benefit for slow weapons that partially compensates for them having a moveset that otherwise wouldn't be viable.
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How do I into pyromancy? I want to try it. What are the good spells and shit/what stats should I level?
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This nigger is so fucking easy but the butterflies waste so much fucking time with their fucking diarrhea spray. He's literally more fun to fight in the fucking Ringed City swamp.
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>>174740339
TW and TD SL1 aren't even the hardest boss in DS2
that was L&Z

What was this ledge cheese?
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>try password 2v2 arena with friend
>my character is SL 106, his is SL 119
>get matchmade with players who both have the downscaling icon and are at LEAST SL160-ish going by their ATT slots, health, stamina, 1-handed weapon use, spells and heavy armor.
How does this work? They were probably higher than that, I calculated the minimum possible on mugenmonkey real quick.
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>>174739078
Drop attunement by 2 and put it anywhere else. Honestly at 120 it doesn't matter what a mage build looks like as long as it has 30 ATT and 60 INT. Put those extra 2 points in END if you plan on 1h swings with your MLGS, or put them into VIG if you plan on twohanding and trading. Most important thing when it comes to spells is that you have something for all situations
>Something with low fp cost and fast cast speed that can be spammed easily (Great Deep Soul/Great Soul Arrow)
>Something with slow cast speed and high damage (Great Heavy Soul Arrow/Great Soul Dregs/Crystal Soul Spear)
>Something to deal with large groups or multiple players (Old Moonlight/Soul Greatsword/Soul Spear/White Dragon Breath)
>Something to keep enemies from pressuring you (Flashsword/Snap Freeze/Soul Greatsword/Homing Soul Mass)
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>>174739905
yeah, that'll be it. let me upgrade my weapon quickly. then we'll try again?
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>>174740392
Your more poise oriented complaing was basically what I said about getting locked into animations in >>174736750 (which is just a copy paste from the old thread)

Basically anyone who takes a blow gets a headstart on the next exchange, which is the issue with DS1 poise.
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>>174740513
>this boss is so easy if you take out [boss mechanic]
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What even was Ashes? none of it even matters for the story right? it's just another painted world,, why was it so short. i don't mind the design of the areas or enemies, but why would they make it one of the last pieces of a souls game we'll get, why are there so few new armor pieces or weapons
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>>174740526
You can make one fall off the ledge of the arena, so it's a 1v1.

Personally, I used poison.
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>>174740431
damn dude you got fucking EMBARRASSED in this webm
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>looks cool
>nice moveset
>absolute trash damage
Why.
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>>174740256
Except I have.

In both cases, the big weapon user wins a trade.

In the case of a whiff, the big weapon user benefits more from DaS1 poise.

In case of a block a big weapon users still benefits more from DaS1 style poise.

DaS1 poise + BB BSes + DaS3 guard crushes = perfect combination.
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why is everyone in this game such a filthy degenerate?
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>>174740652
>complaing
complaint*
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>>174740102
sum1 plz...waiting for signs.
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>>174740662
AoA was supposed to be together with TRC but FROM was jews and decided to release it as two separate DLCs.
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>>174740659
They add nothing to the fight. They are strictly fucking time wasters.
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>>174740250
can't see it, pal
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>>174738745
Because the Souls series isn't that sort of game. There's not even a cosmetic armor slot, it's not changing(and that's good)
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how important is luck/hollow form for poison damage? i missed out on the quest and I'm out of respec attempts with mommy rose. Does poison even scale with luck or is it with dex?
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Guys, please, give a hand for someone that is giving this series a proper chance starting with Dark Souls.

I just defeated Taurus Demon and a huge red dragon is on my way. I didn't see any bonfire nearby. If i die now, i will have to defeat Taurus Demon again?
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>>174740907
just use collector's edition
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>>174740776
>FAAAAABULOUS~
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>>174734403
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-DG9GOmK-E
Live now. DS.
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>>174740907
post your feet and i will consider
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>>174740662

There's no concrete proof of this but I dig the theory that Ashes and Ringed City were originally meant to be one big DLC before Namco forced From to make two resulting in Ashes being cut as its own thing. The pacing and overall feel of Ashes really makes it feel like it was meant to be act one of this three part DLC and making it its own thing weakened it in comparison.
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>>174739941
no, sorry, I've moved onto the demon ruins to get the FUGS. by the boss bonfire and pass is dsg on PC
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So where is the tier list for greatshields, shields, staves, talismans, chimes, and throwable objects?
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>>174741025
If it has a boss health bar and you got the victory message after killing it, it won't respawn.

Run to the middle of the bridge, then look for some stairs on the right.
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>>174740452
>but the ability to get hit in the face without being staggered doesn't automatically favour the fast weapon. It favours weapons with the highest DPS, the fastest poise break, or weapons which would otherwise have a relatively hard time connecting hits.
>The important part is that 'whatever they choose to do' can include a backstab

This is my point I was trying to make. I was not trying to imply that rapier or dagger would be god tier but they would habe the option of poise back stabs or maybe some new tech that doesn't exist yet like poise tank into a weapon art. Like someone with a dagger or rapier could just walk through a katana r1 and do whatever.

And it wouldn't change anything because people with big weapons could do the same to almost anything. May even just r2 once you hit r1 or fish for back stabs as well.

Ds1 poise is just stupid as fuck.
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>>174741025
Nah, bosses don't respawn once you defeat them
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>>174741064
>unironically using pepe in 2017
racists
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>draw this
>find out someone else drew it before but better

feels bad
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>>174740930
>>174741074
This makes sense, it feels so short and pointless as its own DLC
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>>174740776

Where is this?
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>>174740740
>In both cases, the big weapon user wins a trade.
and trading requires attacking, which activates hyperarmor anyway, so there's no need for poise to be active

>In the case of a whiff, the big weapon user benefits more from DaS1 poise.
no they don't, go re-read >>174738550. If get backstabbed, no amount of poise will save them. And you can also see me throw out an R1 before my opponent does anything, hit their hyperarmor, then roll away before they retaliate; the fact that he didn't flinch didn't make a difference there.

>In case of a block a big weapon users still benefits more from DaS1 style poise.
No, they don't. They weren't hit, their poise didn't do anything.

The only scenario DS1 poise helps them is if they whiff an attack and get hit outside of hyperarmor frames, because it keeps their opponent from being able to strike them twice, but there's nothing wrong with people who throw out bait swings having to take two hits for fishing considering how much damage they can do if they manage to actually catch you.

>>174740725
>EMBARRASSED
no that's this webm
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>>174741306
tower on the wall where you get the red eye orb
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>>174741025
Every time you die you have to start from the beginning of the game like those old school games.
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>>174741113

There is none for the catalysts because there's an objective best one for every magic casting tool save miracles, in which case you want Yorshka's for buffing or if you aren't planning on miracle trades or Sunlight/Canvas otherwise.

Greatshields would just have Havel's and Moaning at top but all Greatshields are pointless in comparison to Black Knight Shield anyway so who cares.

Throwable objects are Throwing Knives at top with Firebombs/Lightning Urns as alright to good.
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>>174741087
still there? feet pictures will be provided
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>>174740652
>Basically anyone who takes a blow gets a headstart
That's not what a headstart means. If you take a blow then you're already behind.
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Gonna make a solaire build.
How much end should I have for straight swords and the possible chance of needing to mash roll out of poise miracles? Also what miracles can I use without being too lore unfriendly besides lighting and great lighting spear? Should I wear both miracle rings or focus more on raising hp?
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>>174741212
WELLLLLLLLLL THEN...........
I was literally getting ready to make that myself. Thank you for saving my time.
Nice
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>>174741064
who is this and why should I care
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>>174741317
Are you mentally slow?
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>>174741352
yeah I'm here, come party with the champ
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>>174741352
woah, not meant for you. i'm whoring my feet out now

meant for >>174740250
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>>174741379
I kinda wanna see what you come out with, join the club.

This is the other one.
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>>174741212
>not " 'Tis good. "
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I wanna be scum. What is the current most overpowered/cheesiest PvP build? (in your opinion)
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>>174741448
God fucking damn it Lucifier just shut the fuck up and fuck off, you're a blight upon this general and you really ruin my mood every fucking time you post jesus christ what is wrong with you can you please just fuck back off to /bbg/ or the discord and stay with your console war starting faggotry brigrade
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>>174741556
projected heal and cat ring on kiln with any god tier weapon?
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>>174741134
>I was not trying to imply that rapier or dagger would be god tier but they would habe the option of poise back stabs
What does that have to do with rapiers or daggers? Exactly nothing, weapon moveset is irrelevant to poisestabs. Everybody can poisestab. I don't know what you're trying to argue at all.
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>>174741635
>wah wah I'm getting mad responding to a tripfag
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>>174734403
So is this little fucker you meet just before the first adjudicator and dissapears immediately after the Furtive Pygmy? It seems so, considering the Pygmy was considered utterly forgettable in universe and this guy is so minor that no one else even recalls him.
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>>174741340
Are greatshields really that useless? I was contemplating a dragonslayer greatshield build
>>
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>>174741340
Sorcery:
Court > Murky > Tinder = Crystal Chime > *
Miracles:
Talisman > Yorshka's Talisman > Filianore's > *
Pyro:
Demon's Scar > Parting Flame > what else
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>>174741737
easiest (you) of my life
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What are some decent YT channels, tumblr's or whatever where i can see some cut content/Debug fuckery?

>Wulf2k9
>Illusorywall
>Crestfallen
> SanadSK
Anything else?
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>>174741798

They're useful for turtling but the Black Knight Shield does the same purpose while being lighter and also being a WA shield that allows you to use great things like Straight Sword Stances while one-handing them.
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>>174741448
good to see you admit defeat in the face of evidence

The fact that I can still safely strike and dodge against an enemy who does not flinch AND that I can backstab through their attacks to force them to flinch objectively proves that no amount of poise would make a difference in those cases. It isn't as though any more poise could make him flinch even less (because he already isn't flinching at all), nor is it the case that any amount of poise could make him attack through a backstab (because poise doesn't let you go through backstabs). Those scenarios will not be helped by poise, the only ones remaining are trades and whiffs. Trades will be the same either way because you have hyperarmor active at the moment, so there's no difference there either. That leaves only whiffs.

Q.E.D.
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>>174741749
>tfw no pygmy wife
>tfw no locust wife
>tfw no judicator giant wife
>tfw no Ledo wife
>tfw no abyss corrupted BBW harald wife
>TFW NO MIDIR WIFE
J U S T
U
S
T
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Man, recursive filtering sure has been hiding a lot of posts lately.
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>>174741556
crucifix builds

greatshields with a fast weapon are also pretty cheese

Gael's GS is also pretty cheese given the amount of damage you get off of a hitconfirm
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Londor weddings are weird
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>>174741974
There is no evidence just you being retarded and backtracking. I just wanted to know whether it was intentional or whether you had a medical excuse.
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Doing a hex run in 2. What's a good melee weapon to compliment the build?
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>>174742076

you can make anyone your wife if you fuck them hard enough. Don't give up anon!
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>>174742246
Yeah I didn't see that coming at all like I thought I was getting a qt armor wife
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>>174742280
You don't have to lick my boots lucifer, it isn't your fault you missed the evidence the first time it was shown to you. Things just happen.
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>>174741556
Some Faith with proj heal / passive regen plus one of the following:
-SS/Shield
-Washing Pole
-PKCS
-Estoc
-Onyx/Gaels
-Pyro with Scar and Surge
-Bident/GFS
-Crux/Splitleaf
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>>174742246
You should see the honeymoon.
Lots of penetration
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>>174742293
anything blunt that can be buffed.
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>>174734403
W-what does it mean when an enemy's body doesn't disappear when you kill him?
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>>174742293
silverblack sickle
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How does anyone put up with the completely broken roll spam Ds3? Every fucking pvp encounter is the same fucking chase and heal 15 times shit. Makes me just want to do ds1 invasions where these fags try to chain rolls and get fucking mollywhopped
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>>174742525
I've always associated that with better drop rate
>>
>no /dsg/ themed fight clubs anymore
>no /dsg/ community functions
>no proper /dsg/ discord that isn't just shitpost brigading the general
>no /dsg/ events
>no /dsg/ des/ds1/ds2/ds3/bb events
>no oc
>no drawfags (good ones anyways)
>no lore discussions
>no social events

Why?
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>>174741668
That small weapons shouldn't even have the option of face tanking hits and my point isnt just a dagger would be able to do it but any weapon. It would most likely just be ss and cuvws swords
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>>174741545
just for you
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>>174741939
>People laugh at Artorias losing to Manus
>They think O&S would do any better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYjX1OZJWK0

Thanks Wulf2k9
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>Finally hit that boss that won't ever let me progress anymore

Game was fun while it lasted.
>>
So, Brigands dagger, dagger or bandit's knife?
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>>174742609
because organizing things are not organic and fun, if you literally wanted to do any of those you could post in the thread and get a response
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>>174742751
manus has like twice the health of every other boss, twice the damage of every other boss, and comically high resistances.
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>>174742770
which one you shitter
>>
>>174742858
ludex Gundyr
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>>174742559
That's all part of the fun. If they have friends just lead them into enemies and rofl stomp them when they can't do shit anyway.

>>174742609
Mustards

>>174742770
Every boss is beatable. Also that movie was the start of way too many fetishes.
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>>174742751
>Early game boss can't kill DLC boss

Makes you think

>Manus kills Orstein

Fucking pleb
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>reds who kill other reds
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>Tfw getting summoned to help kill NPCs.
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>>174742525

It was not an illusion.
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>>174742858
Seath

>>174742925
don't hijack my post
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>>174743052
Do not force your romance on us
>>
any way to enable warping from the beginning in dark souls 1 on pc? i'm trying with CE but changing the flag to 1 isn't showing warping at all.
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>>174743052
>reds who attack me first but end up getting fucking destroyed
you played yourself
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>>174735678
this is my experience as well
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>>174742771
For what? None of them are any good in PvP, Brigands is only viable in PvE if you're building caster stats for a decent weapon buff, Bandits can be used for Bleed memes against bosses but fighting through most things like this will be a slog.
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Is there a list of shields worth using?
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>>174740313
Dragon slayer's axe. Has inherent lightning damage and can be buffed so it's a great mid game weapon for faith since you get it right before dungeon where you can find lightning blade.
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>>174743212
>kills the other red
>dies to the gank
m-muh lone wolf
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Would you let her hit you with the dark hand grab attack?
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>>174743159
>Seath

What the fuck? What are you having trouble with? Destroy his crystal and then just beat the shit out of him. He's not a complicated boss.
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>>174743289
lothric knight shield and black knight shield
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starting a mage for using the aqua dagger, does the M.clutch ring work with it/
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>responding to tripfags.

Anyway, anyone wana arena duel?

Pass: dsg
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>I wish I could kill someone with this
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Nameless God from S&S is the second best Souls endboss!
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>>174743159
>don't hijack my post
It was an obvious joke, you fucking shitter.
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>>174743356
>FAI in slutwear
No thanks
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>>174743428
Horaceposter actually got the last word

>anyone wana arena duel?
booting up my gamecube
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>>174743359
He is probably bum rushing the room where Seath is literally immortal, rather than going through the caves.
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>>174743349
>invading
>expecting fair pvp

Go arena you buttthurt duelfag
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>>174743052
>letting anything live when you're a dark spirit, hunter of the weak, who lives for the thrill of slaughter

Nothin' personal... you bleed just like the rest... kiddo...
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>>174743517
FAI?
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>>174743406
Yes. So does crown, but you don't get a large benefit.
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>>174743532
>dick queen lucifer getting btfo again

Man every time he posts i get rewarded with laughs.
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>>174743572
Are you retarded? Where did I ever imply I expect fair pvp?
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>>174743359
>Most of this attacks fill everything in front of him with death crystals
>Try to get behind him to avoid that
>His tails block you from getting behind him 90% of the time
>The other 10% of the time, you get behind him and close enough to hit him, which means you are too close to get away from the 360 crystal breath, the telegraph for which you can't see when you are in melee range
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>>174742857
He loses to Kalameet every time unless he spams dark magic non stop.
Pathetic humans can't stand against the dragons
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>>174743627
faith stat
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>>174743356
yes
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what's the best GS for a lvl 80 quality build? I was thinking BKS but I haven't checked the numbers very deeply yet
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What do you listen to while you get invaded?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuAbKwe9Fjo
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PC DUELS

PASS: dsg

Come on im so bored uughughghug
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>>174743831
I believe the autist will respond to you with that build shortly
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>>174742609
>>no /dsg/ themed fight clubs anymore
>>no /dsg/ community functions
Last one was the gladiator cosplay and that was so long ago, people just don't care for organizing events it takes a lot of effort and the ps4 community is dead so if you're not mustard you might as well forget about events
>>no proper /dsg/ discord that isn't just shitpost brigading the general
make one then? just know that the public opinion of discord has gone to shit so noone is going to join yours lol
>>no /dsg/ events
too hard to organize fag
>>no /dsg/ des/ds1/ds2/ds3/bb events
fucking host one, if reddit can do it, and /v/ can do it, you can as well
>>no oc
there has been some you blind fag
>>no drawfags (good ones anyways)
you're an entitled cuck, who cares if the drawfags are shit, at least they're contributing, some fag drew midir with his cock out and ya'll shitted on him
>>no lore discussions
because everything has already been discussed
>>no social events
why don't you host one?
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>>174743835
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm15rvkifPc while my phantoms go kill the invader
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>>174742609
Because most of those events were made by the /dsg/ discord but it turned to shit and the general doesn't like discord.

Easy explanation.
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>>174743831
BKS has the highest attack rating, followed by Wolf Knight and Hollowslayer.
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>>174742076
>Pygmy wife is tiny and frail royalty of the Ringed city, you can lose her in a crowd of two. Absurdly intelligent and is always 20 steps ahead of everything you do.
>Locust wife scares the shit out of you by appearing behind you when you least expect it. Constantly preaches vaguely about her psuedo-cult. Shouts, "I will partake!" if she sees your cock.
>Judicator wife in a constant fanatical frenzy about order and law and demands a strict sequence of events in bed.
>Ledo wife might be insane, might be brilliant, impossible to differentiate. Stronk, gallant, and far too attractive than they ought to be.
>Harald wife loves mud wrestling and is extremely sensitive if you touch her head-void.
>Midir wife eats anyone else that might take you from her and lets you ride on her back.
>Ringed knight wife is blind, but likes pretending she doesn't intuitively know her environment so you have to hold her hand and guide her. Can still kick your ass. Likes telling you tales of her dragon hunts.

You'll never have any of this.
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>>174737356
It's a fucking meme and I love it
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>>174742950
Broken chain rolls are the opposite of fun
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>>174743989
I'd be so into the Hollowslayer if it wasn't for the fucking sheath. The GS sheaths are the worst.
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>>174743835
>getting invaded
>not invading yourself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isP_Z7sjnPU

>>174743912
>XD ganking
Bloodlust yourself.
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>>174744110

>tfw cape clipping
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>>174737356

Boring, I know.
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>invaded by dark spirit
>using the Farron Memesword
>parry the second memespin attack

EVERY SINGLE TIME

WITHOUT FAIL

THEY NEVER LEARN
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Favorite Dark Souls related meme?
Least favorite Dark Souls related meme?
Hard Mode: You can't say "DaS2 is bad" is a meme
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>>174744187
Woe is me.
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>>174744110
I agree.

DKS it is, then. It has no sheath.
Same goes for Gael's GS.
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>Pyromancies have no weapons that boost their damage
>Pyromancies have no headgear that boosts their damage
>Despite this they still put out high damage on quick casts
>Have spells that control the flow of combat very well
>Have actual options at close range
>Even have a natural means of getting poise
>All while still having respectable range, and free-aiming power
>Sorcerers have none of this
Whyd they take such a big shit on Sorcerers compared to every other spell caster?
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>>174741813
why is this happening?
WHAT DID YOU DO?
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>they put a plume on the ornstein helmet
>black knight helm still has an incomplete shadow so your chin sticks out in every armor set that isn't nameless king chest armor
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>>174744086
I think your fun detector is broken and needs replaced.
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>>174741813
>horace finds out about the wedding
>>
I've been to marshal arts training and even when wearing armour and holding a shield, it really hurts when you block a hit with a shield. You have to brace it in a way so that blows don't knock the wind out of you. I can't imagine the mental gymnastics of a guy with a shield in dark souls just simply blocking the hits from huge monsters. That's impossible to conceive
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>>174743216
help
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>>174744417
Isn't the point to angle it in a way that make things glance off the shield? Much like how plate armour is designed to direct blows away from you.
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>>174744451
The lordvessel is a key item. Just CE that in, you fucking retarded piece of shit.
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>>174744417
thats why hits from big monsters break your guard, especially if you are using a flimsy shield and not a wall of iron or rock
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>>174744519
I did and it's not working too.
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>>174737356
ste[ aside, pleb
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>>174744578
You can only warp to certain bonfires. And you have to enable the bonfires first as well.
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Where did it all go so wrong?
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Can someone link the weapon tier list?

I just want a good overview of all viable weapons
>>
https://twitter.com/zulliethewitch/status/854716838898528257

Anyone knows how to make this work? I want DaS1 gestures so bad.
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>>174744707
I know. I enabled the bonfires I wanted to access through CE, itemswapped the lordvessel in and still can't access warp in the bonfire menu.
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>>174744673
How is the Lucerne anyway? I like the more mundane weapons with realistic proportions quite a lot, but many of them seem to have underwhelming damage when compared to the hotter shit.
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>>174744417
first of all nigga, this is dark fantasy
second of all nigga, your character can hold a sword larger than any manmade blade, with one hand and do damage with it
the curse of the undead allows you to have superhuman qualities in addition to never dying
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>>174744727
Already posted>>174741113
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>>174744749
they don't work online like most of the cut content
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>tfw using straightswords in previous games was generally uncommon and in pvp they were well-balanced and required skill
>now they're stigmatized as a pleb R1 R1 R1 weapon and it's all too true
I want my DS2 straightsword builds back
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>>174744749
Other people can't see the gestures.
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How do I kill Willy with a pure sorcerer?
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>>174744848
guessed i missed it, ty anon
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>>174744417
>it hurts to block with a shield
HAHAHAHA!
>>
>invade as purple
>try to truly play the wild card without being too lol random
>normal red
>try to always take advantage of any most opportune moment
>gold red
>try my absolute best to assist any other red or purple who is acting the host and not hurt other phantoms

Am I the only one who does this?
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So I'm at the covenant farming stage of my life, with Aldrich Faithful, Watchdogs, and Sunlight done. Blade of the darkmoon sounds painfully long. Any tips? Can't get summoned :(
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>>174744987
are you retarded?
if you block without directing the blow it could easily break your arm, wrist or dislocate a shoulder
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>>174745105

>99 luck anri straight sword
>symbol of avarice
>crystal sage rapier
>gold serpent ring +3
>a bottle of whiskey

grind it out in a drunk haze that's what I did, probably took 3 hours
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>>174744987
>he continues to show he doesnt know what hes talking about

My fucking sides
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>>174745053
Nah.

>invade at the start of AoA/TRC
>rush to fly basement/spear boss fog
>go read a book
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>>174745053
>aldrich faithful
>REEEEEEEEE GET AWAY FROM MY CATHEDRAL
Yeah I do something similar.
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>>174745105
>Can't get summoned
You're not supposed to. Just farm those Silver K***hts until you have enough Proofs.
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>>174744070
this

Except the DS1 Large Club instead.

>free poison
>could poison even more with rotten pine resin
>rolling R1 two-hand change-up catches so many circle stabs
>nobody fucking expects that short-hop R2 one hand
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>>174744287
Because Sorcerers get to kill things from the other side of a room with arrows which are about twice as mana efficient as anything in any other tree, with a fast casting option faster than anything else which deals relevant damage. They get to kill everything in PvE with magic without going OOM, that's their deal.
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>>174745105
accept your fate and soon you will be standing upon the mass graves of dead silver knights
>>
Thanks blue girl. Whoever you are. Was fun as fug.
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>>174745237
Yeah Still at 1st playthrough, maybe I should wait until I get the +3 ring. Do +3, +2 and +1 rings stack?
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>>174740776
is that a jojo reference?
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>>174744417
>marshal arts
You certainly sound like a highly trained professional.
>>
>>174745393

;)
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>>174744937
Longsword in DaS 2 was one of the biggest marks of a scrub
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>>174745169
>if you block without directing the blow it could easily break your arm, wrist or dislocate a shoulder

Only if you are retarded, especially with a large padded shield they use it martial arts training.

If you are holding it in such a way that it is even a risk of knocking the wind out of you then you are fucking up beyond belief and should not be allowed outside without a helmet.

There only thing you should really need to be taught is to lean into it to avoid being knocked over.

>>174745485
lol
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>>174745105
>>
>>174745416

no, rings and their upgrades are exclusive with one another
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What's the funniest moment you've ever experienced in a Souls game? Can be PvE or PvP related.
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>>174745105
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>>174743359
>killed him on my first no-target lock attempt

wew, nvm
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>>174745669
no it fucking hurts to take a mace to the arm even with a padded shield you absolute mongoloid.

>also training with a padded shield

Lmao. Confirmed for never going to a realistic combat event.
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>>174742609
>no /dsg/ themed fight clubs anymore
There were, nobody came to them. Turns out it's more fun to fight with whatever you want than to follow some limited rules.

>no /dsg/ community functions
Just ask and you'll usually get help after trying enough.

>no proper /dsg/ discord that isn't just shitpost brigading the general
Blame the fact the mods there will delete game content if they are starved for attention

>no /dsg/ events
Because no one wants to come

>no /dsg/ des/ds1/ds2/ds3/bb events
Because no one wants to come

>no oc
There is

>no drawfags (good ones anyways)
You guys would drive any drawfag away

>no lore discussions
We have them every thread

>no social events
Because no one wants to come
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Does Hornet Ring affect the damage of the freebie riposte on Midir?
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>>174746041
>>no drawfags (good ones anyways)
>You guys would drive any drawfag away


See i would draw for you guys but im trash, and ive seen multiple cases of drawfags leaving this gen because of meme board culture of hating everything.

I dont get why people are like that.
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>>174746158
I bought a tablet to draw for this general, drew 3 people's characters and they told me to fuck off so I did
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>>174746101
Its not really a freebie
You have to hit him in the face to trigger it, like regular poise damage
It just happens to always align around 25% hp
If you do nothing but hit him in his tail, it'll never trigger
That being said, I dont know
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>>174738463
dual scimitar
using them at the moment and they're bretty good
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>>174746228
>I bought a tablet to draw for this general
I'd believe the rest, but did you waste money with a tablet for strangers on a taiwanese sculptures board?
>>
>>174746228
yeah see, they wonder why this gen is dying, yet theyre going to sit here and be cunts all day.

The sheer levels of blind unnecessary hate is depressing.
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>>174745835
There are not martial arts schools that have newbies blocking real maces with something like a buckler.

>>174746158
Drawfags leave because they expect mindless praise and cash donations. That doesn't happen on 4chan so they leave.
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>>174746339
i was already on the fence , i just needed a reason to push me over
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>>174746228
>they told me to fuck off so I did
I'm sorry to hear that, anon.
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>>174737493
>pve not included
Can anyone post any lists that ARE for pve? I'm still too early in the game to start getting into pvp, at least, I don't feel like I'm ready for it.
>>
Greatshield + mace faith build

How do I do it
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>>174746369
Imagine a 4chan where everybody was nice to each other. It'd be horrible.

I remember once some guy on some forum threw a shitfit and posted an autistic as fuck rant because I called him, and I quote, "silly"
Fuck all that nonsense.
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>>174746564
For PvE, just find what you like and have fun with it
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Guys, I found out how to make sorcery viable!
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>>174746421
>Drawfags leave because they expect mindless praise and cash donations.

This never happens. Also I can clearly tell you dont draw or have a creative intent in you, most people who draw for boards do it for fun/satisfaction. I garuntee I talk to more artists than you do.

You are becoming more of a disappointing and ignorant person every time i talk to you.
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>>174746590
I haven't really considered a greatshield focused build. I guess it could be cool, especially if mixed with some faith heals and buffs for that paladin feel.
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>>174746564
Chaos Fireball, Vestiges, and the black orb Pyromancy are all you really need in PvE. Maybe lightning arrows for Midir.
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>>174746754
ayy
>it's not even sorcery
>>
Guys help

I want to go pure spellcaster but I have no idea how to do it. How do I into magic? Pyromancy and big splashy spells look like they'd be a good time, but I have no idea what to use, what to find, and what to level. Help please
>>
>>174746608
Nono im not asking for pure nice happy fun times. But right now its the norm on 4chan to be the exact opposite. isnt that just as bad in your opinion.
>>
>>174746845
Int to 60 or as close as you can get without crippling your other stats
Att to 30
Flashsword/soul greatsword/great deep soul/GHSA in that spell order
Don't get hit
>>
>>174746845

Make a pure martial character until you get far enough in the game to actually have sorceries worth using.
>>
>>174746845
don't do it
>>
>>174746754
Is it easier to activate locked stamina cheats now than before? Because I'm seeing a lot of cunts doing that kinda shit in the Arena now.
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>>174746794
I was a drawfag on /co/, and people like Zone and Dmitri started as drawfags on 4chan too, before following profit elsewhere.

You would be surprised how often artists hear that bullshit excuse.

>Hey, can you draw my character in this super complicated shit? What do you mean pay you? LOL, you just draw for fun anyway, right?

Thing is, if we want to just draw for fun then we will draw whatever we want instead. If an artist here is just drawing random shit as requested, they are usually doing it for recognition (i.e. hugboxing).
>>
Anyone on ps4 want to co-op or something?

Getting bored of one shotting people at pontiffs
>>
>>174747296
>>174747296
>hing is, if we want to just draw for fun then we will draw whatever we want instead

>im a drawfag on co

Yeah you contradicted yourself. I draw shit all the time and im not hugboxing. I dont see any names or trips on people who draw here. your wrong.
>>
>>174747476
>responding to a trip
>responding to a guy who jerks it to getting BTFO
>>
>>174737493

Black serpent is okay at best. You can literally just sprint slightly to the left or right and completely avoid it. It's only decent because people's first reaction is to panic roll towards you.
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>>174747537
Good point.


Side note, want to do some drawfagging.

Hit me up with something basic if you want. No quality promises.
>>
Gentlemen, how do we fix the aquamarine dagger, without making it OP or fucking with the fun moveset?
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>>174747590
By that logic lightning arrow is also shit
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why do they hurt so much
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>>174747537
How doI filter him? I can't help but reply to him
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>>174747283
There's now a script for it on the CE table, so yeah sadly
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>>174747476
I just gave you the names, 'tard.
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>>174747691

No because you can hold lightning arrow and wait for people to attack. It also gets the benefit of having poise because of the talisman.
>>
>>174747680
Dragonisis and DaS1 dragon form bro-oping
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>>174746946
If you make something actually interesting, you'll get praise and jokes.
Here's an example of a drawfag that made a cool boss concept and you can see what were our reactions:
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/173395317/#173413506

People just get salty when something they made that wasn't as good as they thought it was gets shat on.
>>
Niggas, why does the handmaiden sell firelink armor, without me ever killing cinderella?
>>
>>174746228
please show us how you draw Dancer of the Boreal Valley
i just want to save it to fap to later so make it lewd if you can
>>
Why is the Crow Quills WA so awful? I hit a guy for 12 damage.
>>
>>174747814
>wait for people to attack

then you equip regen and wait for the retarded faith user to stop wasting both of your time
>>
The whole, 'the only way you're getting any invasion experiences running through the game and ng+'s is by popping a dried finger' thing is like, lowkey killing the game for me. You either get no invasions or play dried fingered (which is fun in it's own right tbf), but there's no middleground. Ran through NG+5 today, embered but not fingered and outside the auto summon areas I got invaded once - This is with me actually playing the level cause I want more upgrade mats and divine blessings/siegbraus.
>>
>>174747691
Except you can hold arrow and cancel the spell with a roll until a good opportunity comes without wasting fp.
>>
>>174747898
You're supposed to combo it to heavy attack.

the quill's are just for flashy effect.
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>>174747695
Why don't you just 2hand your weapon if you won't block
>>
>>174746228
still have the will left to draw a brass helm for my profile pic on discord? I would really really appreciate it.
>>
What's a good armour set that goes well with one of the greatshields? I considered Morne's + Greatshield of Glory, but that stuff is just too heavy.
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>>174745809
>Gank squad chasing me
>Host falls off a cliff
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>>174747904

>1 spell forces the opponent to play completely passive and give the other dude a draw

You're just helping my case more. Serpent could never do that.
>>
>>174747684
But its rated top tier on the meta lost

>hahahahaga
>>
>Read a retarded message at Oceiros.
>Think it's stupid.
>Hours later, notice someone rated one of my messages.
>Go to see my messages, since I hadn't played for a long time.
>The message I read before, that I thought was retarded, was written by me...
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>>174747773
>2 people is everyone.
>its people who try to make a name for themselves like you
>not the countless other people who post anon who are the vast majority.


Stop fucking posting

>>174747825
I cant draw dragoons very well, any other suggestions.

>>174747827
yeah I try to put a quality not garunteed stamp on my posts. seems to work
>>
>>174748237
>give the other dude a draw

nah

just chuck a knife with a few seconds remaining
>>
>>174748153
Black leather set goes great with twin dragon and ancient dragon shields.
>>
>>174746990
What about Pyromancies? Don't they scale differently?
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>>174747684

Well, what's its primary downfall at present?
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>>174748384
I wonder who could be behind this post
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>>174748384
>>174748457
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>>174748421
40/40 int//fai for pyromancies.
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goddamn this birbass
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Anyone got a spare havels ring? accidentally just consumed my Stray Demon soul
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>>174748438
It's weaponart extends it to a short straight sword, with the stamina use of a larger sword and the damage of a dagger, it has none of the advantages of daggers or straightswords.

The only reason I use it, is because it's light and fun to use in pve.
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YOOO THE NAME'S GREIRAT
I GOT MOVES LIKE A STRAY CAT
I'MMA STEAL YO SHIT, AND AINT GOTTA SHARE THAT
STICKING TO THE SHADOWS, AVOIDING MESSY BATTLES
SLOW ON THE FLOW 'CAUSE Y'KNOW SHIT RATTLES
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>>174747967
I share your sentiments. I spent nearly an hour dicking around in the demon ruins with a finger active and got one invasion. Meanwhile I get summoned to some other player's world and they're getting constant invasions because of the stupid priority thing.
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>>174747695
>that fucking lunge with almost no tell
I hate that fucking move, but that's why you always carry a shield against a Darkwraith.
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Anyone wanna co-op gravetender with me on PC?

Seriously, I have never co-opped this boss, not even when I try to put down signs for it, why is that?
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>Have a password phantom
>still get help from the police
?????
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Are sorceries or pyromancies any good for low-mid level twinking/gankspanking?
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>Invaded by Aldritch Faithful A bloody tampon

>Xanthous crown
>Corvian Great Scythe
>hadn't gotten Applause from Leonhard yet
My man, I don't know if you post here or not, but the encounter was appreciated.
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>>174741113
does this apply to pve, pvp, or both?
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>>174748661
Ringed City has Havel's +3 for free if you're willing to get it. Making regular Havel's Ring is just a waste of that soul now.
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>>174748979
>Invade
>Don't expect cops to show up
?????
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>>174749014
chaos fireball and black flame.
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>>174749014
dude just fucking swing your raw weapon of choice
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>>174749014

You mean like 40-60? Not really. You have to give up so many stats to do decent spell damage in this game, so you're reduced to a glass cannon at that level.
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I'm starting a new character /dsg/, what's a fun weapon to use?
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>>174748760

So perhaps lowering the stamina usage and raising the damage to somewhere between the two?
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>>174749287
AGS
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>>174737356
You can literally beat every popular weapon in the meta with twindaggers if you git gud

Some weapons are better against it than others, but if you learn the timings you literally can't lose to anything
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>>174748793
greirat's mixtape so fire it linked the fire xD
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Any sony bros want to watch me share play?
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>>174749287

heavy bastard sword 2h with too much vit and poise

it's the little sword that could
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>that faggot cathedral knight in front of the gardens elevator
>bait him into falling down the elevator shaft as it's coming up
>look down, no sign of him but I also haven't gained any souls
>figure he must have survived somehow and landed at the bottom
>as the elevator is getting close I just fucking die out of nowhere
>elevator arrives with the cathedral knight inside of it, having passed through the motherfucking roof
>I lost 140k souls because of this
This game is a heap of fucking dogshit.
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>>174749439
Why?
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How to dodge Midir's crazy hyperbeam spamming he does, also once he does that is there an critical attack animation because it looks like he tires out
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>>174741113

I need a history lesson, /dsg/. Was GFS hugely overbuffed at any point? I played with it at launch and it was mostly considered a trash weapon, literally (the actual definition of the word) never saw someone else using it.

Is it just something people caught on to or did it get some buffs?
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>when the host stacks in the butterfly phase of dragonslayer armor
DS3 players are fucking garbage
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>>174749164
nevermind, killed all three of them
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WHAT THE FUCK, DID THEY BUFF THE FIRE DEMON LORD?
I'VE BEEN DYING 80% MORE FREQUENT TO THIS FAGGOT HE DOESN'T STOP ATTACKING FOR A SECOND, I CAN'T EVEN GET MY SOULS SOMETIMES.
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>>174747705
>Now

Always has been.
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>>174736704
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>>174749417
How do you beat splitleaf?
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>>174749495

Get under him.
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>>174737356
People think I'm having a bit of a laugh until they get that ass rollcaught.
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Why do you think its only in Lothric Castle that Pus of Men appear? Despite other areas having clear links to the abyss, none of the hollows there show signs of abyss. I guess the ones near Cathedral could be suppressed by the torture, but the ones in Irithyll are arguably even older than the ones in Lothric, and have more time to fall to the abyss. There are abyss MONSTERS in Profaned Capital, but no Pus of Men.
What is it about Lothric that brings out the worst in hollows?
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>>174744356
>black knight shield is upside down on the player
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>>174749650
Holy shit that's good.
Sliders?
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>>174749216
thx breh

>>174749242
where's the fun in that

>>174749269
hmm so is at least 30/30 mandatory for good pyro damage?
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>>174738745
Yeah, I want to see hot pink smoughs and haralds everywhere too.
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>>174749667
Splitleaf is actually one of the hardest matchups to learn with twindaggers, I played about 50+ matches with my friend who mains splitleaf until I learned all the timings, now I shit on splitleaf users.

Basically, you can roll through all their shit, even their spins, its incredibly tight timing windows but you can do it

I recommend having a friend play against you and kick your ass until you learn the timings, that's what I did.
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>>174749650
sliders pls
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Reminder not to reply to tripfags
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>>174749572
Old Demon King? I know what you mean.
I just found out the hard way that he has a 6 hit combo and he was using it every time I got within range.
Also, he'd start attacking again if he hadn't gone into the "return" part of his animations after an attack. Shit was relentless.
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>>174749562
>Kill host
>Complain to /dsg/ anyways
?????
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>>174749572
>FIRE DEMON LORD
Do you mean Old Demon King?
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>>174749780
>Host of Embers Shrek
>green skin
>green dyed Smough armor
subscribe for more epic videos guys lol
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Fight club when? I'm getting sick and tired of these bullshit, no creativity builds in the arena
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>>174749847
Oh, are we doing this here, too?
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>>174737356
I love it.
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>>174749491
I'm bored and getting some good invasions and no one from my friends list is
OMFG just invaded while typing that and I sniped that FAGGOT PALADIN YORLIN


Hahahahababha
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>>174749915
>I'm getting sick and tired of these bullshit, no creativity builds in the arena
>I want to get sick and tired of bullshit, no creativity builds in the high wall
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>>174749703
You can get by with around 25/25 at lower levels. Obviously, adjust for requirements.

You can also get away with being a glass cannon during invasions since you can rely on enemies and the environment too.
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>>174749916
Hell yes.
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>>174749854
Yeah, he seems to have 3 moves for any range im in and i keep getting knocked back by everything
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>>174749983
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>>174737356
Lothric Knight Sword -

Amazing stats, awesome mooveset, sexy as hell
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is quickstep decent on these or am i just better off with regular claws?
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>>174736704
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Reminder not to reply to tripfags.
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>>174749497

It had and has had the longest basic range of any spear in the game since launch. The only buff it really got was the general Charge poise buff around the Ariandel patch. The AR nerf it and Dragonslayer Spear had recently hurt them both but the latter more than Flame Spear since Flame Spear still has its absurd range to work with.
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>>174749857
because right now i'm playing an invasion
character that has all this shit
(>>174744709)
But I know full well how frustrating invasions are when I invade with a character that just has his one weapon
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After 2 and 3, this one has aged like hot shit
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>>174749915
Now that discord took over it's only meta gaelfags
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>>174750198
I just realized DaS3 lacks a watery area that isn't a fucking swamp
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>>174750174
>Kill host
>Complain to /dsg/ anyways
?????
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>>174750094
Nigga have you not been in the threads for the last few days.

>hey guys is paladin Yorlin a cool name?

>no sounds gay

>what? No i think its cool

This went on for every thread for days
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>>174750198
I still like anor londo a lot tho, wish they would've given us more like that instead of swamps
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>>174750198
Graphically, yes
Gameplay wise, no
You're just bad
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Playing DeS for the first time, I've been playing with my wand and I'm trying get my Soul Ray out. Am I suppose to 2h my wand, one hand it? Overhand grip it or underhand grip it?

I've been fiddling with it for an hour now and it can't get stiff, can someone help
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>>174749915

FCs died for some reason.
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>>174750296
I'm sorry I have other things to do and don't just post here 25/8.
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>>174750296
Hey anon, do you think Paladin Yorlon is a cool name?
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>>174750326
I have over 700 hours in 1 and 2, 1 has really aged poorly after playing 3 for a while.
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is splitleaf good for pve?
>>
Yorshka is really cute
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>>174750347
Game died
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>>174750435
I know what you mean anon, I tried replaying Dark Souls one the other day, took me quite a while to get used to it again after 3
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>>174750198
I still think DaS1 has a really unique and charming aesthetic in some areas
Like how the bonfires look like their fire is just moving construction paper ribbons
Or how lightning and fire seem more like little fibers than they do actual lightning or fire
Its pretty comfy
>>
Just got to Abyss Watchers for the first time, felt like I was actually doing okay until I got smacked down by a second one and it was all over at that point. Any tips? I'm bad with using items so I have a lot of them that you find
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>>174750142
regular claws, manikin is too slow
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>>174750380
Don't worry I'll let you know if you miss anything else cool like

PALADIN YORLIN

>>174750418
No he died like a bitch
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>>174750576
DS1 lighting looks like yellow barbed wire that blinks like some neon lights on the weapon.
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>>174750418
Paladin Elroy is better
Because its like Leeroy, but it isnt, so people could understand your cosplay at least
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>>174750347
>>174743980
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Is Paladin Donald a good name?
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If I only wanted lightning blade and maybe a lightning arrow would I still go to 60 FTH? or could I go lower?
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>>174750858
I do just fine with 40, but 60 is optimal.
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Did anyone else think this was a chest their first time through? In the dim light I really couldnt tell what it might be so I just spammed my button trying to open it for a few seconds while being wailed on by hollows.
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>>174749847

Reminder to set everyone to anonymous.
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do any stats affect poison damage or build up?
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>>174750949
Where is that?
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Would it be mean if I uploaded a video of killing paladin Yorlin? The video is pretty long though since there were like 3 phantoms and a host. My team mate basically carried me though
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>>174751105
Undead Settlement, in the little building in the area where the Giant is shooting
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>>174751105
I think undead settlement, in the house before the great wood
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>>174750786
>one of the most hated groups turned out to supply one of the most beloved past times

Damn. So poetic.
>>
What's on that ledge in cathedral of the deep which looks like you can jump on but you cant?
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>>174750983
pickle pee should have been the final boss of the series, as a big fuck you to 'fans'.
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How do you beat paired UGS?
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Did they change Friede, I don't recall her jumping around like that in phase 2?

Also sorcery shits on her.
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>>174751386
perseverance because they're all brain dead and just press l1
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>>174740530
First I've heard of a downscale icon, is it the blue down arrow by their name? Sorry if I missed this info I only invade.
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>>174751375
And then they turned to shit circlejerk talking shit about other people behind their backs, making raids on other discords to spam, and promoted cancer being spamming in general in the form of pcfcbf
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Dragon Souls when
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Can someone help me test something? On PC.
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Anybody else like Sirris?
>cute outfit
>polite and brave
>daddy issues can be fixed
>gives you free stuff after the second blind date
>probably has a nice trimmed bush in the shape of a waning moon
>already met her parents
>probably likes getting her ass eaten
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>>174751586
Are you trying to set me up for a date-rape?

Fuck off.
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>>174751380
guys seriously how do I get there?
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>>174751596
yeah, I like her.
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>>174751538
Dragon's Souls is going to happen eventually.
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>>174751742
Nibba that's literally where you enter the first time are you blind
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>>174751742
r u dumb
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>>174751596
I'd put my finger in her sunless realms
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>>174751742
Thats the entrance lol
You go right from there and go to the rooms leading to the giant
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>>174751375
They drove every fc host away
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>>174751381

>Zone into final boss area.
>Velka is lying in the middle of the stage, already dead, and being devoured by a murder of monstrous crows.
>During the battle they screech about "warm and soft", "smooth and silky", and "pickle pee / pump-a-rum".
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>>174751596
>>174751789
>>174751846
Sirris a shit
SIRRIS A SHIT
LITERALLY NO DAMAGE
WITH HER DUMB ESTOC AAAAAAND DMB
ZERO DAMAGE
JUST A FUCKING HEAL SLUT
SIRRIS
WORST
WAIFU
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>DS3 doesn't load up your DS1 save file for the SoC boss fight

why
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>>174751596
>already met her parents
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>>174751984
more damage than firekeeper. lel
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>>174751479
who actually cares about randoms talking shit about you? you didn't try to become their friend did you?
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>>174752136
Didn't say about me, I've just seen it going on and people would shit talk others to me.

idgaf if people want to talk shit about me
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>>174751386

Crossbows
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>>174752136
I'm in the discord right now, reading their shit. None of them are over 20.
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>>174749697
Age and voice: Young
Build Detail: 100/50/50/100/130
Base Skin: 162/146/136
Skin Color: 180/140/100/130/120/130/130/130
Features: 25/140/0
Facial Balance: 130/0/125/100/230/100
Forehead: 100/255/0/190/50/135
Brow Ridge: 255/100/130
Eyes: 50/167/190/65
Nose Ridge: 130/130/75/150/150/180/150
Nostrils: 175/120/115/70
Cheeks: 80/155/135/150/180
Lips: 200/80/100/0/255/95
Mouth: 195/255/240/180/100/160
Chin: 190/140/130/110/140/135/122
Jaw: 170/100/150/140
Cosmetics: 114/127/115/127/50/80/140/140
Long eyelashes.

Hair and eye color is up to you.
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>>174751996
>5 games in now and still no doppleganger boss fight
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>>174752262
Do they think the name paladin Yorkin is cool ?
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>>174752124
You do realize firekeeper has higher damage, since she's the one who's making all of your damage possible.
>>
Holy fuck I have 99 dregs. Fucking drowning im dregs. Why is Aldrich invasions so easy?
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>>174752486
what's a dreg anyway?
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>>174752486

At what SL?
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>>174752262
any cute girls in there?
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>>174751890
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>>174752424
Nope, she can't even run either lel
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>Invade
>Activate speedhacks, invincibility, infinite stamina, and infinite FP
>Change into a white phantom
>Clear the entire area
With great power, comes great responsibility...
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>>174752601
everyone that pretends to be a chick in there is actually a guy.
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So how's pyro? Good fun?

Will probably start a new playthrough as one. My other high level character is a Knight running a FTH build. Reckon I should gun for something like Demon's Scar or Onyx Blade, or are regular Dark infused weapons the thing to get now?
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>>174752262
the admin was stupid enough to post his underage face
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>>174752601
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>>174752565
The heaviest things within the human body.

>>174752594
Sl 56 with +6 upgrades
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>>174752761
someone post the homework one.
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>>174752601
No, just babies 'bantering' at each other. Basically something I would have done in maybe highschool.
>>
>>174752761
Are you pc? If so, can we please do a co-op?
>>
So phantom cooldowns don't work on password phantoms becuase I just killed the same white phantom twice, the same sunlight phantom 3 times and the host once, seems a bit imbalanced, probably would not have been able to kill the host if I didn't get a second invader to help me roll catch at the end
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>>174751479
I don't recall any of that happening. The PCFCBF posting claim is the most ridiculous, since it's against the rules there.
Unless you mean the old Discord back from last year, but I didn't see much of that.
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>>174752753
How would you know?

>>174752841
This NEVER happened and he is NOT underage.
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>>174753001
t. admin
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>>174752927
If it wasn't for the fact that it would incriminate the person that told me (since I left the discord now) I would show pictures and share chatlogs to the point that they would get banned from the discord. They don't want to get banned because it's the only community that they really have to talk with other DS3 players because /dsg/ really don't have a community to it.

Believe me, it's true.

>>174753001
trust me, I know
>>
God weekend /dsg/ is really bored. Anyone doing cool shit or want to fight/do arena stuff?
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>>174741025
Bosses stay dead, and some enemies don't respawn, but nothing else does.

Don't try to fight the dragon.
>>
>Got parried by a guy when he was facing away

wut
>>
>>174753239
I'm trying to set up a SL1 PC FC but ya'll gay ass fags don't want to do it
>>
>>174750198
It has roll recovery times therefore it is the only good one
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>>174753001
This was posted some time ago. This is a 16 year kid at best.
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>>174753303

>SL1 FC
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>>174753239
>Anyone doing cool shit
Nope, just trying to finish my faith character for the sunlight sword memes.
>>
>want to run a duelist build with a nice hat
>thrusting swords are kinda shit
>parrying dagger is no comment
Should I just go for it anyway for mad style points
>>
>>174753001
>NEVER happened and he is NOT underage

ahaha dude you basically just proved that it is true
>>
>>174753269
ds2 and 3 are in the running for worst netcode in any game ever
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>>174751386
They never learn
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>>174753409
Paladin Yorlin?
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>>174753505
This webm is so old I remember it being made when Ashes came out, stop posting regurgitated shit.
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Post your favorite song in the Souls series. I still get chills thinking about the first time I played Demon's Souls and it opened with this.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=dn7dW6xCMXY
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>>174753505

is he using an atari controller or something? why is he only pressing one button?
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>>174753239
I want to but there are no other ps4 players around who want to do anything cool.
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>>174753239
Let's go for some passworded arena coop matches?
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>>174753561
the fuck are you talking about?
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>>174753426
I thought you said dualist build with a nice hat which basically sounded like a Black Hand cosplay
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>>174753689

Sounds cool, 2v2s or what? I'm fine with any map too.
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>>174753635
Aldia's theme is my favorite theme.
Gehrman's theme would have been my favorite song but the incoherent screaming drowning out the lovely instrumental ruins it for me
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>>174753381
>>174753001
lmao forgot pic
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>>174753631
>saying the webm was made when DLC1 came out
>webm contains DLC2 weapons
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>>174753687
Want to do something super cool and rad and kill ng++ midir with me ? :^) just kidding, I'm not masochistic enough for that.
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>>174753239
My PS+ expired so now I'm just playing Lonely Souls. You don't realize how nice messages, bloodstains, and phantoms are until they're gone.
>>
I think it would be good if we both lower the sl meta and upgrade meta
>>
>>174753796
Looks at least 24 or so I'd say from personal experience.
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>>174753631
The date I made is literally right there my man.

>>174753678
Most Paired UGS users only do that. There are exceptions though. Still, a regular UGS has the upper hand against it.
>>
>>174753687

that's not true, i'm doing lots of cool stuff... like healing people in coop and sometimes playing as a dragon! you just don't know where to look.
>>
>>174753931
What sl are you ?

>>174753820
Was going to bring a low sl character if you were serous.
>>
Wtf happened there use to be literally 10 of us ps4 players, now theres like 3-5!!!
>>
>>174754062
Maybe they finally released another game for the PS4? I heard they do that twice a year.
>>
>>174754043
Nah man, I barely managed to beat Ng++ gael, I'll leave midir alone on that character.
>>
>>174753269
Was he behind you?

>>174753860
>I keep trying to let mine run out because the PS+ suck.
>friends keep buying it for me so that I will play with them online
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>>174753873
>makes Murky Handscythe weapob analysis video
>instead of 60 faith or dex/faith, builds dex/faith/int 30
>doesn't use dark weapon, decides it's not good
>insists in the comments that he doesn't have to try it on a faith/dark weapon build
to know it's not worth using
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Personal Computer Cuckold here. Why am I seeing so few lmao2ugs these days or is it just me?
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Does the weird splitting of damage annoy anyone else?

Drakeblood Greatsword is fucked up because of it. Onyx Blade is further messed up by it's blackflame WA buff adding fire rather than dark damage etc. MLGS being split rather than pure Magic. Why didn't they balance it another way?
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>>174754062
>tfw going to a bonfire and seeing zero (0) host of embers in any locations
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>>174754062
I'm here.
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>>174754273
which dark souls is he from
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>>174754198
The last patch (or the one before?) nerfed. WA consumes more stamina and a little AR nerf.
Also most regular players know how to deal with the moveset now, so it's less effective.
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>>174754062
Console players only care about what's in the "now" or video games that are popular. Real souls player just got a PS4 for BB, but played DS3 on PC.

Players that got DS3 for PS4 are either retarded or or just normies who bought it because it was advertised as fuck. They posted here because /vg/ isn't a secret club as you'd like to think. This place is just as accessible and viewed like reddit, the only difference is we can be assholes anonymously.
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>>174754273
Holy kek, ahahahahhah
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I can be backstabbed while interacting with items? What is this Dark Souls 2?
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>hosts that summon 3 phantoms for midir

why

you inflate his hp to MMO boss levels
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>>174754043

i usually linger around sl 50-80. I'm always worried about taking the time and effort to climb up to the 120 league and find less people.
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>>174754273
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>>174754401
Thats a good thing you dip
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>>174754273
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How active is Dark Souls 2 on PS3? I'm thinking about paying through it again and I don't want to rebuy it on PS4 or PC.
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I'm horny, 7's decide what I masturbate to. Make sure it's souls related
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>>174754482
in my 750 hours of play this is first time it happened to me that's why I just simply rushed to "Open The Door" then deal with invader outside where I'm not being pelted by 30 fireballs. I died.
Still had my revenge 5 minutes later.
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i heard that the ds1 gestures were still in the files for ds3 and i came back to see if there was a way to allow me to shrug again
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>start new character in dark souls 3
>have a fun build idea in mind
>get through high wall, maybe undead settlement before I get bored because I can't fully realize my build until the end of the game

How do I not let this happen
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>>174754357

i got it on ps4 because i thought the true souls players would be there since demon's souls and bloodborne were on playstations, and to avoid all the cheat engine squirts. guess that puts me in the retarded category.
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>>174754441
When Phantoms die, does the boss health stay the same? Or is it adjusted to how many people are left?
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>>174744825
it was really good with the leo ring until the splitleaf halberd became a thing. Splitleaf with 30 str has more AR than a 40/40 lucern and equivalent AR to a 66 str gundy's halberd. Even if half your hits with the lucern are counterhits, a 66 str splitleaf should do more damage (not taking the leo ring or the splitleaf combo into account).
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>>174754532
Fuuking deder that ded
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>>174754675
it stays
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>>174734403
Hello /dsg/, quick question. Will owners of DSIII "premium edition" get a discount at The Fire Fades edition ?
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>>174754675
It stays the same.

>>174754609
Gael
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>>174754665
Take an old character and reallocate stats?
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>>174754670
You fell for the playstation meme.
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>>174754665

you can't. believe me, i've been spending weekend after weekend making new builds but always ending them before abyss watchers. It takes way to long to get a lot of interesting builds up and going, and god forbid you accidentally miss a questline of someone's a miss out of a one time item or realize you actually want to be hollow.
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>>174754665
Beg here until someone drops you the stuff you need.
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>>174754795
I don't want to just pvp or do new game+

I want to have a new character and play the journey from the beginning
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>>174754665
your respecs aren't consumed at rosaria if you quit the game before leaving her main menu
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WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU WATING FOR FUCKING HELP ME RED YOU FUCKING HONORNIGGER FUCK YOUUUUU
FUCK THIS SHITTY COMMUNITY
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>>174754062
Helped them all kill demon Prince and gave them their items or souls and now they finished the game and have no reason to play
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>>174755020
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I was upgrading without paying attention and I slabbed a Mace.

So how is it in PvE and PvP?
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>>174754447
I'm on a sl 56 if you have anything cool going on
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If you suspect that the host of embers is shooting a HILARIOUS video, do you play along or black crystal out like an anti-social autist on 4chan?

>>174754609
Carthus Curved Sword-wielding loli
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>>174754273
I dunno, he could be 18
He'd just be really fucking ugly
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>>174753631
If it is, then it's before the nerfs to the L1s, which means it's even more possible to beat them now.
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>>174755020
>when you're outnumbered anyone who's around to help you goes honorfag
>get gankly goobled to death everytime
Or my extra favorite
>be 1vs1ing at aldritch zone
>second guy shows up, doesn't gank
>third guy shows up.and suddenly you're 1vs3
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>>174755191
It's pretty good. Just use WA against bosses and R1 spam them to death. Works almost same in PvP too.
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>>174754670
most players are on consoles, it's just that most of v plays on pc for whatever reason
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>>174754062
A vast majority of people play on PS4 because souls is always bad on PC and doesn't appeal to the average PC market.

But a vast majority of /dsg/ users are on PC.
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>>174755234
I turn on CE and kill his area boss
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>>174741539
Why does she resemble the dog from the original comic in the first panel but in the second she's an anime
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>>174752841
To be completely fair, some people just look really fucking young.

t. 30-year old teacher who literally gets mistaken for one of his high school students.
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>>174754609

a screencap of DSP playing one of the souls games
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Great Hammers feel like shit in invasions, considering how often opponents seem content to just run around and do jack all.
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>>174755326
this
after getting a ps4 and playing some exclusives, I realized that most things you read about exclusives here is from people who never touched those games

it's really surreal

>>174754062
You're still better off I think, the way they ban people on pc and don't do anything about hackers ruins it
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>>174754286
Weren't you done with this place?
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>>174737621
Just got back from dinner, still around anon?
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>>174755516
>implying there aren't posers trying to follow his footsteps
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>>174755326
The games themselves aren't really anyworse on PC if you play with a controller. They are worse because of Cheat Engine.
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Why there isn't any mmorpg with dark souls mechanics yet? Why hasn't From Software made one yet? lt's like they hate money
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>>174755298

it's kind of sad. I always come on here and see people doing fun stuff on PC while i'm sitting alone at a cold, dark and lonely bonfire waiting for someone to bring me into their world and play.
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>>174754670
I also got it for those reasons. I mean I can get instant invasions all day but I can't ever find a dsg player to team up with.
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>>174755496
That's because 4chan is not a good platform for talking about games. It's a really good platform for shitposting and lying though.
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>beat Midir solo

Holy shit, that boss was a tough one. It really takes you paying attention to his moves. I'm so content, now it's down to the Spears and Gael
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>>174755625
Cheat engine + poor optimization + less support / later releases / higher prices
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>>174755682

it's definitely easier to get summoned than it is to summon someone else, for some reason. I always end up soloing everything, then help like 50 other players do that same thing. I don't mind too much though since it keeps me at the top of my pve game. It is a little annoying trying to figure out what SL to stop at as well as what weapon upgrade to stop at so you don't lose a good populated coop area.
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>>174755842
>poor optimization + less support / later releases / higher prices

Why do console cuck retards post dumb shit like this?
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>>174754609
Stone-Humped Hag
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Well, I missed the last anon.
Anyone else gave a sage ring +2 they aren't using on PC?
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>>174755805
It uh..

It isnt hard.

You just suck.
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>>174754273
i dont get it
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>>174752319
eye color slider?
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i just want a fun girl to co-op with, why dont girls ever post here
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>>174754637
anyone? i just want to shrug again
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>>174754609
Gwyn.
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>>174755964
Are you approved by the discord?
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>>174752319
I might do a new character soon just for that. Thanks.
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>>174755934
I don't play souls on console. The PC ports for souls are shit, and the prices are consistently higher for DLC with usually about a week of delay between new releases. It's been this way since DS1.
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>>174755993
>It uh..
>uh..

You have to go back
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>>174756086
No clue, so I guess no.
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>>174755934
Because they're fucking Japanese games that are developed on and for consoles and only as an afterthought ported to PC because the vast majority of the Japanese market uses nothing but consoles, you fucking moron.
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>>174756035
If it's something anon, I've actually met few girls while playing Souls online. So after a good invasion/duel just add the person and ask if they'd like to co-op / duel. You never know.
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>>174755842
only DaS1 really had poor optimization and From was up front about it. Mustards said it was okay and still begged for a port.

Games for Live was also a joke.

Cheat engine is what makes PC versions unplayable.
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>>174755993
Maybe I do but I still beat him and that's what matters to me
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>>174754609
Gwyndolin, ofc
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>>174755842
>CE
yep, true. But not that big of a deal.
>poor optimization
no
>less support
no
>later releases
what
>higher prices
..what the fuck
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>>174755934
It's better port than DS1 and DS2 yes, but the same issues are still present, like the textures being exactly the same on pc and consoles

Graphics aren't improved at all, only the fps is

+fucking hackers getting you banned or some small mod

It's infuriating how bad FROM handles pc
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>>174756161
>only as an afterthought ported to PC

Why do console cuck retards post dumb shit like this?
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>>174754609
grub heysel
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>>174756231
>better port than and DS2

Nigga what? Toasters can run DS2. A low end pc would explode trying to run DS3.
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>>174756035

how would you feel if i pretended to be a girl just for you? i even play a magic healer.
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>>174754609
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>>174755939
Hope she's ready to gain a second hump if you know what I'm saying
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>>174756128
Do you not get tired of lying you retarded faggot? The DLC is the exact same price for both PS4 and PC. And TRC was released around the exact same day on both PC and PS4.

Go shitpost somewhere else.
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>>174756161
That's only true for DaS1.
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>>174756175
>unplayable
haha holy shit you cannot be this much of a faggot

i met 2 hackers since DaS3 came out. I have 1k hours, even though that isnt very much here.
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>>174756231
From doesn't handle PC, Bandai Namco does. From has literally no intention or market for making a PC game and the only reason souls ever was released on PC was because Bandai Namco demanded it. DS1/DS2/DS3 are literally the ONLY PC-ported games From has ever made, and they don't sell in Japan at all.

PC gaming is still extremely niche in Japan, and From has no marketing or community outreach outside of JP, that's all Bandai Namco.
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Which is funner
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>>174756231
>Graphics aren't improved at all
False

>only the fps is
Which is pretty fucking major for an action game

And DS2 port is really good.
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>>174756418
>i met 2 hackers since DaS3 came out

I've seen tons and I have half that.
They're fun though.
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Does entering new game+ have any affect on pvp whatsoever? As in invading or arena or anything

Or is it always just soul level and weapon
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>>174756309
The list of issues with DS2 on pc is retarded

iframes are broken since they're dependent on framerate, for some reason and so is weapon durability

It took them like a year to fix the the weapon thing, but they never fixed the iframes

You also needed a controller to play it and if you used xboxce to emulate one, you'd get fucking banned

People would get banned for playing against a hacker too

I'm sure there was more bullshit but it's been a few years since it came out

I know cuz I played it on pc, didn't have a console at that time
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>>174754609
This picture of my character's ass.
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what is a fun build for an absolute madman to play?
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>>174756465
Gael's, hands down, and you might even win.
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>>174754609
Twin princes
rekt
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>>174756418
Do you use CE? If you do and check stats, you'll find out around a tenth of players have cheated stats or weapons you can't find out about normally
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>>174756465
artorias' for the 360 rollcatching part of the weapon art
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>>174756251
Because every other From Software game in history is console exclusive, except for the 3 dark souls games that Bandai Namco forced to be ported to PC?

>>174756370
Talking in general, not just TRC or DS3. DS1 and DS2 took forever to get patches, prices were still high without bundles (especially for the 3 crowns), and releases were always 5-7 days later (sometimes months later).
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>>174756560
Flynns ring anything
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try tongue but hole
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Checking fextralife is like reading dark souls fanfiction. Anyone got any favourite texts from there?
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>>174756559
hot damn
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>>174756465
when they splat, i splooge.
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Did... Did I just kill my waifu?
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Lads I need some help with my Haggar gimmick build, here are my stats. For gear I have
>skilled Caestus +6
>Demon Fist +2
>Club +5 (best approximation to the pipe I currently have)
>Drang Shoes
>Iron Bracelets
Rings
>Milkring
>Cloranthy
>Flynn's
>Farron

What should I be focusing on for stats?
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>>174756418
>it's the ole "i have seen a hacker in the one million hours I played meme

LOL

Just watching the WebMs posted here or a random PC stream shows them constantly.
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>>174756596
The prices were all the same. If anything, PC was significantly cheaper for DS1 with all the DLC.

Fuck off you idiot.
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>>174754609
The Firekeeper as her Champion of Ash gives here a loving dick at the end of the world
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>>174756491
>Graphics aren't improved at all
>False

The game looks identical to consoles in terms of graphics

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NE9nONBpdc0

Will you still deny it?

>Which is pretty fucking major for an action game
Did I say it wasn't or that 60 fps doesn't matter? Don't put words in my mouth, I bought it on PC for 60 fps

>And DS2 port is really good.
See >>174756556
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>>174756590
protip: R2 is great for catching people rolling into you, and its less punishable
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I'm a Dex fag and I want to make a strength Character. What are some good weapons I could use in my build that are strength focused.
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>>174756339
What platform?
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>>174756578
>you'll find out around a tenth of players

Wow nice source you have there.
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>>174754609
God-King Lucifer !!ss9GITmavRN
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>>174756418
Are you really this dumb? The blatantly obvious hackers aren't the only CEcheaters around, you goof. Most cheaters just tweak some stats or get themselves weapons they haven't earned, with slightly altered properties so they hit just a little harde, or drop themselves upgrade materials they haven't farmed. It's fucking RAMPANT.
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>>174756732
>PC was significantly cheaper for DS1 with all the DLC.

Because it came out a year later you retard
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Someone mind helping me with Midir? PC Pass /dsg/
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>>174756419
>DS1/DS2/DS3 are literally the ONLY PC-ported games From has ever made

Nah. They also made this for pc. Then again it was mostly MS going "PC TOO"
https://youtu.be/aHy0gzzqgOU?t=3m22s
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>>174754609
Ingame model of Lothric.
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>>174756902
So you do admit that you're a lying piece of shit nigger when you claimed price discrepancy?
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>>174756841
I'm telling you to test it out and see for yourself.
Download CE, click session info and see past players every so often. I have this data of around 500 hours of PvP and you have a way of finding it out by yourself
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>>174754609
Harvest Valley hammer dudes
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>>174756936
Ninja blade is also broken on PC sadly, you can't finished the game on 60 fps

You have to stop and limit FPS to 30 if you want to get past some parts

I really liked ninja blade and it obviously uses the same engine as ds1 and ds2

Played it years before FROM would blow up due to dark souls
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>>174756825
you can get the Great Axe at High Wall of Lothric from the hollows wielding it.
The Berserk meme sword from Farron Greatkeep, one great club from either the fire demon when you meet Siegwald first or the 2 pedos in the crucification woods.
Maces are underrated since they basically get damage bonuses against 2/3 of npcs ingame.
Dragonslayer Greataxe is a must have since it's the hardest hitting STR weapon.

I did my very first playthrough with this and later exchanged it for Yhorms.
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>>174756825
If you want to go UGS, I personally really like the zweihander, although that's mostly because of ds1 nostalgia. Anything with stomp for UGS is wonderful.
Here's a nice template I use for my strength builds that gives you a few more levels to play around with https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/179716
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>>174756825
Yhorm's great machete.
Dragonslayer Greataxe.
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>>174756534
No you haven't.
>>174756578
No, I don't cheat.
>>174756725
That itself is just as much anecdotal evidence as mine is, you tripfag scumbag.
>>174756881
Just giving yourself weapons is not a problem and that is the majority of CE players. My argument was made with the notion of hackers being CE users that give themselves unlimited health etc. That does not make the game "unplayable" as ol' Lucy wants to state.
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>>174756989
Someone's mad
And I'm not the person that replied to you first

>>174757013
This is very annoying on PC, FROM does a better job banning non cheating players somehow
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New
>>174757197
>>174757197
>>174757197
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>>174756768
Sure, textures and lighting aren't different between PC and PS4 (which is pretty common in Jap games). Better aliasing options and ability to render at higher resolutions is a significant advantage for PC.
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>>174754609
this picture of this anon's character's ass here >>174756559
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>>174754609
fap to bigel bee
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>>174756825
I'm a strength fag and I want to make a dex character. Recommendations?
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>>174754609
Fap to my character after his ass was grabbed by the Ringed Knights
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>>174757142
And going up against SL 120 characters with 99 end/vit/str/dex totally isn't a problem, right?
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>>174757149
>i-it w-wasn't me!!!

kek
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>>174754609
This
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>>174756202
fuck that stupid ass beast GOD DAMN I HATE IT
DIE JSUT DIE ALREADY
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>>174756825
large club GREAT CLUB
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>find out you can equip way of blue DURING an invasion
>unequipping it after one blue comes doesn't stop the second one from coming
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>>174757340
I said majority of cheaters DONT do that. They just give themselves weapons and upgrade materials. Altering stats is not the most common problem and does NOT make the game unplayable, which is the basis and focus of my arguments.
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>>174754609
Miyazaki
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>>174757256
Frayed Blade is a great Dex weapon. Sharp Gothards is perfect as well.
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>>174757446
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>>174754609
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>>174757679
I love how the best way to deal with gothards is to always assume they will go for the rolling attack.
gets so many trades that would otherwise never work on other light weapons
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>>174754665

Collector's Edition
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>equip miracle gnaw
>use on enemy player
>14 damage
huh so that's what being a faith user is like
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>>174757109
>>174757126
>>174757134
>>174757524
Thanks for the ideas, this already sounds like a fun playthrough compared to my first.
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>>174757909
bait
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>>174757962
well STR build is basically using a heavy weapon and staggering even dark knights with one swing.

It's fun. Except Midir.
>>
>>174754609
Be Wary of Feet Ahead
>>
Whats fun builds for Faith? do people do STR/FAI?
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To all your Darkmoons out there, thirsty for ears...
How does it make you feel when a host doesn't gank the invader with you?
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ZULLIE

HOW DO I SHRUG IN DS3
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>>174755668
should have had the guy explode
>>
DS2 fight club anyone?
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>>174759898
Dragonslayer axe is a good str fth weapon, when I go faith I generally get a low stat/scaling weapon (something like astoras sword) make it raw and go 60 faith
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>>174756635
I want Eygon to bully me and become my protector because he deems me too weak so that I eventually forget all about my destiny of linking the first flame and become his new miracle waifu/servant
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>>174740737
b-but anon you can warcry buff it!!
I'm giving it a go in my next PvE character, it looks like its strongest with dex so with the new buff to sharp and dex scaling to 70+ it does decent enough damage
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>>174746845
Crystal whatever +10 for trash clearing
You need Flashsword, Greatsword, GHSA, HCSM, and GFD. Everything else is for shits and giggles.
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>>174764301
>melee spells

flashsword is okay for pvp, but greatsword is really weak.
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alirght I Just reinstalled DS3 where's the pvp hotspot for fightclubs? It was after pontiff when I played, that still the place?
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how do i dragon bro properly
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>>174766610
>fightclubs?
get the champion's ashes and do arena.
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