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Previous Thread: >>174590703
>>174722413
i always forget the name of that game
anyone played it? is it good?
>>174722413
>watch trailer
>that announcer
holy shit no
>>174722582
gee i dunno what could it be called???
>>174722130
I assume snorlags "bunnyhop" means just repeately jumping, which is kinda redundant.
It was mentioned that visor's bhop speed isn't capped, but I don't remember hitting a noticeable speed cap as ranger. Is there any way to test it in a private lobby?
>>174722413
For those of you who don't have a beta key and want to know what the game is like:
Sorlag, Clutch, and Scalebearer are just there to get killed/be that annoying faggot who kills you outta nowhere.
Ranger and Visor actually take skillz to win
Nyx, Slash, Anarki, and Galeena are what I'd like to call insta-winners as in if you see 3 of these characters in your lobby, they will be in the top 3
Nyx is the least cancerous of the 4, though her invisibility can get the slip on you. Visor can easily counter this shit.
Anarki's health regen is annoying as shit and should be lowered or non existent
Slash's red queefs of death are a get out of "jail free" card in any close range situation. Not to mention her crouch slide makes her fucking impossible to hit at times
Galeena has absolute dogshit hitreg and can heal.
Either id gets its head out of its ass and fixes this shit ASAP, or the only reason people will play this is for classic mode
>>174722838
slash is balanced
>>174722838
from previous thread
God tier
>Visor
>Galena
>Anarki
Good tier
>Nyx
>Ranger
>Slash
Get fucked by shitty netcode tier
>Sorlag
>Scalebearer
Shit tier
>Clutch
>>174722413
galena is my waifu
>you look tasty~
>>174723251
what makes galena god-tier? you're making feel like a tryhard for liking her
game is perfect the way it is now.
If you want class balance you need to git gud, ive seen people dominate with every characters
The only thing I would love to see implemented is a Play of the Game feature. That would be neat
>>174725483
She's not they fixed her hitboxes.
>>174725483
fucked up hitbox + heal/damage skill that you can stack
>>174725595
that would be silly
would just give people more reason to compare 2 completely different games
>>174725595
>Play of the Game
yes, actually. yes. Nobody has to stay for it, but put it in. It's a great thing
>>174725437
I want to throw myself down that lurid, gaping maw.
>>174725786
it would be just sorlag spamming a choke/quad with rockets and spit and getting 4 kills every game
>>174723251
Ranger > Visor because
1. Instant speed > speed after 3 jumps
2. Teleport > Wallhack
>>174725595
>game is perfect the way it is now.
bait?
>>174726170
visor is faster if you know what you are doing and wallhack is beyond strong.
there is no place in the game that you cant reach with regular strafe/circle/rocketjump/nailclimb.
>>174725625
they didn't
>>174726170
preferences.
the tier list is just a general opinion
Ranger appeals to people that arent that familiar with strafe jumping/circle jumping and has good mobility.
Visor appeals to the VQ3 vets who can get insane stuff done with only strafing, Anarki is the CPM champ, Nyx is Warsow, Slash is Q4.
>>174726019
streaks of high accuracy, medal explosions, multi-kills, can all be factors.
Games like this aren't just about winning, it's about looking cool while you win. Play of the Game feature does just that. That's why it would be such a good thing.
Ranger is going to be the TF2/Tribes Soldier of QC
Versatile starter class easy to pick up and play with incredible mobility and great fragging potential in the hands of a skilled player
People will bitch about him being OP and having no counters
Just wait
>>174726637
>Nyx is Warsow,
but can you really do a 180 turn off a wall? It was kinda obnoxious in warsow that players could never stop, even at dead ends.
>>174723251
Clutch's ability is only good if you have SSG/Rocket/Rail. His damage reduction passive is a trap.
Big characters are just not that good because along with having bigger hitboxes they're generally slower.
not gonna lie I wish they would use base nyx movement for every character.
I tried nyx for several hours but she just cant compete against something like visor.
she has like 75/25, visor has 125/25.
how the fuck are you supposed to outaim 50hp difference.
nyx/anarki also get 1shotted by rails/rocketrs.
I also fear we wont get forceplayermodel 1, there would be ne reason to implement something like that into the game now that we have character mtx/colors and stuff. its really difficult to see certain colors/champions against certain backgrounds.
>>174726907
>Tribes Soldier
What? Is that some Tribes Ascend bullshit cause T1 and T2 had freeform classes.
>>174726486
>visor is faster if you know what you are doing
Only if we were talking about CTF or defrag. In the situations where it matters most, combat, Ranger is faster than Visor and therefore you are more likely to shake your opponent's crosshair or projectile predictions. Visor is only fast inbetween fights, Ranger is fast during fights.
>rocketjump/nailclimb
Barely a thing with the current netcode. Ranger's orb teleportation has a 100% success rate as long as you teleport before the thing hits a wall. Rocket jumping is already kinda worthless in most modes in QL (except CA). It only really pays off if you're in control in a duel. The server side fuckery in QC makes it unusable imo. I might change my opinion once I play more, I've only played a couple hours yesterday.
>>174727027
There won't be forcemodel but I guarantee you there will be a highlighting post process like Overwatch has (or like you get as Visor during wallhack).
>>174727000
checked
agreed, movement is a defensive and offensive stat. having good movement is key in quake. that being said, I do like how they make everyone feel different in those terms on how to play and how to move. heavies need some balancing.
>>174726907
Agreed. People seriously overestimate the lighter champs because netcode is still shit making them harder to hit than they should be, and veterans tend to want to go fast so there is a sort of "skill bias" towards lighter champions. Ranger will pass the test of time.
>>174727274
the shit visor has during his wallhack is actually quite annoying, I find it very difficult to differentiate between walls you can walk through and walls you cant because everything gets that retarded blue filter once his wallhack activates.
>>174727404
>walls you can walk through
?
I agree that the filter is irritating but it irritates me more during combat. With no color information left I've got only the stupid triangle to tell me who's an enemy.
>>174725437
Why is there still no lewd Sorlag art? What the fuck are those degenerates over at /trash/ even doing?
>>174727047
It's freeform in TA now too. Before that soldier wasn't too much of use besides tryhard ar/hitscan pistol or lmao2spinfusors.
>>174727898
I stopped playing TA before that since they neutered the base mechanics compared to T2 and it was still active at the time with tons of maps and mods.
the one thing they BETTER not mess up with hunter is her VA
im gonna be pissed if they do
>>174727898
soldier was the king of dm and could fit any role with 1400 hp and 4 nades
>>174728280
Oh yheah, proxies! It makes it even worse tryhard class.
>>174728245
>implying they'll even add such a problematic character
what do you want her to sound like, though
>>174726907
Doesn't this also apply to TF2 Scout?
I think it will be Ranger + Nyx
>>174728414
>tryhard - anyone who can put the 'jack of all trades' to good use
I bet you call tf2 soldier mains tryhards as well
>>174727898
>lmao2spinfusors.
>tfw never again having the joy of playing fatty for spinfusor, twinfusor, and throwing discs
I AM BECOME FRISBEE
DESTROYER OF PTHS
>>174728445
Scout is far from easy to pick up due to how fragile he is. You have to get in close for the Scattergun to do real damage (otherwise it's just a shittier Shotgun) but that's also the range where most classes will shred your 125hp health pool with a sneeze. Newbs also have trouble aiming while moving, relying on strafing to line up their crosshairs instead of twitch-aiming while moving in other directions.
>>174728602
i bet you played lmg/disc jugg as well you cancerous fag
>>174728767
LMGs are for fags
nothing got my dick harder than a long-range direct mortar
>TDM
>someone is 0/10
every fucking time
>mfw strafjumping so fast I hit my own rockets
>>174728842
>when light chars think they're invincible as long as they go really fast
>to get and stay that fast they move in a predictable path
DIAMONDS
>laggy as fuck game
>can count the seconds per frame rather than frames per second
>this happens
why are people so awful
did the overbabies think they were gonna come here and become "hardcore" because they play THE quake
>>174728551
> tf2 soldier mains
Not really. I've mostly played roam in sixes. Tryhard would be something like dh solly on hightower.
>>174729759
Stop bragging on an anonymous image board, it only makes you look pathetic.
Hear me out, VEGA says all of Doomguy's lines and taunts for him.
Or functions as a commentator, congratulating you for a good kill, or giving you "advice" when you respawn.
>>174730000
>>174729759
had a laggy dude on one of my games, only reason he had high kdr was because he was lagging so much you couldn't aim at him properly
>>174730783
Lag goes both ways. Everyone was lagging around for him too. Low latency isn't some kind of hack.
Has anyone ripped "I know a good slipgate to shove you in!" anywhere? This is real important.
>>174726907
>no counters
What the fuck are you talking about? This isn't overwatch. This isn't a rock/paper/scissor system.
Are some of the maps intended for less players?
I swear to christ I was just instantly spawnkilled about 10 times in a row after joining a game in progress.
>>174729086
I've seen this, this is real. Did it twice.
Guy still went 50 and 8 anyway.
>>174727161
Experiment more with rocket jumping. I get stable connection every game, and I don't see any server-side fuckery. People aren't, eh, looking up and don't expect sudden rockets from above.
Slipgate is amazing though. Stopwatch the Quad with a prepared slipgate escape.
Also I thought people were bitching about no rocket smoke trails. There are totally rocket smoke trails. Was it added recently?
>>174731753
Play TDM and get gud
>>174722623
This was exactly why I didnt donate to the kickstarter.
I was also very disappointed because I heard an interview with 2GD saying that it would have a unique movement system that would persist into combat and the the gameplay comes and its essentially just quake but a little different
but most of all I hope the game voice overs arent like the trailer
Any one ever play pic related? probably not but i did. to go fast you chained wall jumps and switching weapons would turn you into different monsters, like the shotgun ape.
>>174732076
oh yea and its gimmick was that only 1 of each weapon could be in play between both characters and each weapon had a health bar. so the goal was to kill all your opponents weapons and then that lets you take it and gain that weapon and health bar for yourself. It was pretty cool for the 5 games i managed to play in it
>>174733004
RIP anon there goes your beta access
>>174731356
https://www.file-upload.net/download-12456222/slipgate.wav.html
hope it helps
>>174733004
"gg" when winning
shitter
>>174733083
how to rip files from the .pak archives?
>4 level 15+ players
>everyone is camping the mega and large armors
>giving everything it takes just to stay in the middle of the board
>game ends
>everyone's best gun was lg
>except for some poor loser who use the mg the whole game and got one frag
>it was on me
>>174731282
>Lag goes both ways
not necessarily, you can have great inbound traffic but also have outbound throttled to shit
>Anarki that charges me with starting MG in a straight line while I LG over and over
like woah
>>174733186
>not always posting gg no matter what
nobody likes you whiny faggots
>>174733319
I made a video, turned off music/special effects and removed the video part so its audio only.
kinda ghetto but I for now it works.
>>174732076
i played it but it died so quickly
even on release it only had like 3 servers
also didnt like the dev drama that encompassed it
visuals were neat
>>174732058
>Experiment more with rocket jumping. I get stable connection every game, and I don't see any server-side fuckery.
Every match I've played all players have had pings under 50 according to the scoreboard, yet everyone was lagging around like crazy. When people went up jumppads you could see them teleport into the air in front of you, one frame there would be nothing, the next the player would be up in the air in front of you. That's what I mean when I refer to netcode being terrible.
And rockets are delayed. Put 1 and 1 together, I assume rockets are server side, hence the delay. The ingame pings clearly mean nothing. Not with the current netcode any way.
>>174733638
If it's always said it means nothing.
>>174734615
this.
I had ping 15-20 most of the time and rocket jumps were next to impossible.
Played defrag for 4years so Iam not new to rocketjumps and they DONT work properly atm.
>>174733638
this is stupid. if youre always going to say it then just save everyones time and say nothing. its fucking retarded that people even get mad at me for not saying gg after each round like fuck off dude its literally meaningless
what the fuck does visor say when you select him
'sneak into my sense'?
>>174735113
he says "bazinga"
>>174735113
leap into my ass
>>174735183
>>174735398
laughed
>>174734615
Yeah and my experience is very different, I see the same pings, and I get great performance except for the odd Anarki that teleports around. ie. no rocket delay, smooth motions.
There's clearly a netcode issue that's not uniform. They gotta fix.
>>174734924
how about you suck my cock kiddo
>>174735673
>kiddo
i thought you weren't allowed to post here if you were under the age of 18
21 years
JUST GIVE IT TO ME FOR FREE GOD DAMNIT
>>174736392
I know right
I thought it was gonna be ranger exclusive unlocked by default
I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE
AND I KNOW I WOULDN'T USE IT BECAUSE ROCKETS IN THIS GAME ARE ABSOLUTE FUCKING AAASSSSS
So do the devs plan on actually listening to the community or what? So far literally nothing has been fixed.
>>174736092
ironic considering the 30-40 year olds that still play quakr and quake 2 almost always say gg
Could anyone please help me with a spare key? We could even play together.
[email protected]
>tfw never use the chat for anything because it's too distracting and pointless and I could just be killing people or already searching for another match
>>174736952
sent ;)
My Anarki impression, !warning! it's accurate:
HEY you mother f-FUCKERS this is ANARKI, the KOOKIEST-CRAZIEST PUNK IN THE QUAKE tm ARENA! if u think sorlags LIZARDPUSSY is nasty then you aint seen ME BRO. im GNARLIER than like the GNARLIEST WAVE YOUVE EVER SEEN BRAH. THATS right im one bad dude coming to BLAST YOU TO BAZINGA BITS. IT WILL BE FR*CKING EPIC WHEN I HAS THAT CHEESEBURGER BRO. UR GONNA BE CRYIN FOR A ZERG NERF WHILE I STREAM U GETTING REKT LIVE ON TWITCH TV kappa. PEACE AND LOVE AND DMT man, ANARKI OUT. by the way my character has relations with slash *rebecca black friday starts playing*
>>174737146
It fits his characters and embodies that early 2000s style.
>>174736952
Dude, you can literally buy a key for less than 1 dollar online.
everyone kept saying for years that arena shooters are the most hardcore thing ever.
i'm a complete noob and i won 4 FFAs in a row. this shit is fucking easy. i had a harder time playing fucking overwatch.
>>174737146
OH YEAH
WHO WON THE LOTTERY?
I DID
>>174737442
Yeah no I'm not dealing with G2A/Kinguin kind of sites and their shady as fuck practices. I'd prefer gifting a $5 game on steam or something like that.
>>174736648
In reality they are probably working on tons and tons of things, but pushing new closed beta builds to distribution isn't worth the time. They get feedback and data from all the games played -> Make thousands of small changes -> do quick internal tests to see these changes, and build up for the next beta cycle.
>>174735586
>no rocket delay
I seriously doubt that. This is the first time I hear someone not complaining about rocket delay. What other Quake game have you played the most? Is there maybe rocket delay in that game, too?
>>174737685
arena shooters arent hardcore per se its just that they have a much higher skill ceiling than other genres.
>>174737685
this is not a pure arena shooter
go play reflex and you'll get obliterated
>>174737685
those people were lying
arena shooters are only as hard as the other people you're playing against
this applies to >>174737946 as well
my only complaint about roeckets is the absurdly low damage they deal on anything that's not a direct
i can drop one right next to a dude's feet and literally do TWO points of damage
>>174737851
I'm not making this up. There is no rocket delay. I'm in Iowa on the Iowa servers on the meanest, biggest, meatiest internet connection you can get on a $3000 rig. Rockets are clearly server side and feel accurate and responsive as all hell to me because of it. I have no doubt that they have netcode issues that they need to fix that is fucking up people with less than perfect connections that are causing rocket delay and all sorts of issues for other people. Just not here.
>>174738141
Check your eyes.
We doomguy now.
>rounds move too fast to compliment nice shots
It hurts.
>>174737685
Come play UT4 :^)
Clutch with a Rocket Launcher, ability, and good positioning is beast.
Clutch getting a Rocket Launcher, having his ability available, and having good positioning is near impossible. Totally not a successful TDM character.
>pay real money to unlock every hero
>win every game against poorfags because i have the right tools for every situation
having money is better than being skilled lol
>kill a clutch
>he explodes into meaty chunks
i-is anyone there?
slow as it is it's still too fast for that kind of advantage to exist
we need a new colloquial name for QC
what about mobaquake?
What is the difference between Sorlag's "bunnyhop" and Visor's "strafe jump"?
Are they just the same passives with different names?
>>174740094
how about bazinga quake
>>174740334
Visor just has no speedcap.
Sorlag need to jump straight forward, no strafe to make it actually work and he still has a speedcap.
I often think people underestimate the current speedcaps.
You can gain up to 450+ ups with one circle jump and up to 550+ with just 2 jumps.
A lot of chars are already capped at those numbers, kinda aids.
>>174740868
Is there a command for speed charts? Or any way to know when you're at the threshold for Scalebearer's passive?
>>174741289
there are commands?
>>174741289
there is not but you should be able to tell by feel.
its very noticable when you stop gaining speed.
very easy to tell with anaraki for example, the fuckers speedcapped him hard.
what's the fastest way to grind xp in QC, dm or tdm?
>>174741476
probably just playing the game
don't bother grinding in a beta baka
>>174741476
Whichever you're better at. DM can probably net more exp regardless because there's more enemies to frag at a time, but TDM's can be landslides and get you streaks.
>>174722838
>thinking anything should be a non existent part of a kit
And opinion disregarded
anyone bought any of the gun skins yet? do they change the projectile or sound differently? does your guy hold the gun skin on the waiting screens?
i wanna get the lg because
a. its the strongest one and i use it often
b. rl sucks
c. i suck with the railgun
d. i dont use the machine gun and
f. doom shotgun is almost identical to default
>>174742641
i love buying quake tm guns!
>>174742641
>quake 1 thunderbolt not included as LG replacement
>quake 1 ng/sng not included
you bastards. why are you torturing me like this
>>174742641
Still saving for OG rocket launcher, 40 more shards, but I keep getting things you can't dismantle like colors and body addons.
>>174742721
just deal with the fact that your beloved quake is a dress up simulator already
in the beta, how do i into TDM pubs? should I just hover around the heavy armor or try to time the quad every time its up?
>>174742015
wat
>>174743468
always stay with someone and in general control the quad/ra/mega
>>174743589
there is no red armor in qc, silly
is it just me, or is the qc LG a meme? chaingun seems to be much better
>>174743725
there is
>>174744109
What chaingun? Do you mean QL?
>>174744928
you seem to be new to this game, friend
you cant pick up the red armor, you have to find it in a Quake Limited™ MegaCase©
its alright though, i know there is a lot of new players in quake and it can get pretty confusing :)
>>174746064
epic
>>174743561
>he wants Anarkis health regen to be nonexistent
>wants a piece of the game he's playing to be rendered useless
I'm saying he's retarded anon
>>174746152
no, id
>>174722413
Done. I'm fucking done with this shit
>>174722838 is 100% accurate in their descriptions.
Not to mention
>Lag-fags. Guarantee this will be present with no signs of improving
>Pro l33t nerds who pop up and ruin the game. They should've had matchmaking from the start. The fact that they didn't shows they don't give a fuck
>Rocket launcher is shit
>More damage while zoomed
>Blood Covenant is good. Burial Chamber is k. Ruins of Sarnath is fucking awful, especially if you spawn anywhere near the railgun
>Abilities are cancer and should only be allowed in modes like CTF, Control Points, etc. They have no reason being in DM and TDM. In fact, why the fuck didn't they just cut that shit out of those modes in the first place?
>Nobody is playing this game. It'll be deader than QL or Q3 in 2 years tops.
>Not even on Steam. Uses Bethesda's shitty platform instead
All in all, 7/10. Could've been good, but too much horseshit nobody asked for.
>B-but it's a beta
We all know after years of examples that beta = final version minus any bugs. There's no saving this
>get blue ranger as my second shader drop
>realise how it's gotta fucking with the eneny team because at first they see blue which means don't shoot
>>174746064
Why is nu ranger so much more better than nu doom?
>>174722838
>>174746298
It's still better than Overwatch imo
I'll hold off judgement until after they fix RL, fix hitreg, fix netcode, add the remaining 4 game modes, and add more maps in general. until then I remain cautiously optimistic.
plus there will be classic mode to look forward too with none of the stats/abilities bullshit.
>>174746656
Because ranger simply has more polygons while doomguy got redesigned
>>174739818
So did Bones.
>>174746857
No doubt. At least QC isn't actively sabotaging you by forcing you to play with shitters. Still, I cannot for the life of me understand how they didn't see the need for matchmaking in a game like fucking Quake when there are dudes in their 40s playing since they were 20
holy fuck where are my quests
i cant get 30k favor from just matches
>>174747623
yes you can, the trick is to actually play.
30k is like 50matches.
>>174742641
Railgun has a different firing sound, that recharge sound, and that humming sound. It's basically the Q3 RG's audio with the Quake Wars model.
>>174746656
Ranger is the same design just in modern graphics. Only difference is the lack of his perma-scowl.
do you think theyll add a grapple mod character
>>174746298
since you're shit I don't really want to go through the effort of telling you how stupid you are, but here goes
>Lag-fags
Netcode is not an easy business. Netcode work is most certainly #1 priority of these closed beta tests.
>Pro l33t nerds who ruin the game
If you have an issue with skill being the most deciding factor, then I recommend to you Hearthstone. They clearly went with server and netcode priority in their closed beta over establishing matchmaking this early.
>Rocket Launcher is shit
Rocket Launcher depends on netcode and latency issues. Rocket Launcher is incredible in a smooth game.
>More damage while zoomed
I don't see this as an issue. Quite a subjective complaint.
>Blood Covenant is good
Blood Covenant is easily the worst map, then Ruins of Sarnarth. Burial Chamber is fantastic in comparison.
>Abilities are cancer
The core design of the game is to include abilities. If you don't like it, play QL. Abilities with different characters is going to make more complex TDM, CP, CTF etc. game modes with team based work. This is what the majority of gamers out there actually want. Worst case scenario- everyone plays the same OP character in DM.
>Nobody is playing this game
This is a closed beta, what is wrong with you?
>Not on steam, uses Bethesda's shitty platform
Bethesda Softworks is a game publisher and is essentially funding id Software's ability to make this game. They make these decisions based on $. In this case, Steam takes money from Bethesda Softworks for having their game on Steam- therefore it is in Bethesda Softwork's best interest to not provide the game through Steam, as they are a big enough publisher to have multiple games using their platform. This is real life, game developers have to eat, pay off student loans, and pay for dental insurance for their kids, and the costs simply do not outweight the benefits for putting it on steam.
>beta = final version
usually true for open beta, not true for closed beta
>>174748738
HHRMPH
HHRMPHHHRMPH
>>174748417
Ranger had non-scowling faces in Q1, namely when equipped with Quad Damage or the Pentagram and a couple of the hurt faces. The permascowl comes from how unlike Doomguy's face which constantly looks around with a determined/neutral expression, Ranger has one default face and that is pissed off.
>>174748975
I know but like you said it's his default face.
>>174749112
Yeah, true. Also Q3's lack of facial animation means he WAS always pissed off there.
>>174749206
>>174749112
Y'know, I never really appreciated just how detailed a good artist can get with a handful of pixels and very limited colors.
>>174749317
Will Ranger ever get access to his axe again?
>>174749394
No. At least he has a nailgun again, though, so that's a start.
>Clutch
>RG
>Just camp and one-shot Anarki/Nyx
>Fuck Anarki/Nyx players
>>174748738
>>174748967
Bitterman with a grapple ability?
>>174748889
Oh stfu faggot
>Netcode is not an easy business. Netcode work is most certainly #1 priority of these closed beta tests.
This is made by id. The same guys behind all the other major online shooters. Why is this still an issue in 2017? This should've been a rarity, but is instead a common occurance
>If you have an issue with skill being the most deciding factor, then I recommend to you Hearthstone. They clearly went with server and netcode priority in their closed beta over establishing matchmaking this early.
Becuase nothing screams a fun time like getting your shit pushed in every game. I've been placing in the top 3 almost every game. However, the fact you expect me to be able to stand toe to toe with someone who has been playing this for 20 years... See you here in 2 years when the game is dead
>Rocket Launcher depends on netcode and latency issues. Rocket Launcher is incredible in a smooth game.
Shame it's dogshit here
>Blood Covenant is easily the worst map, then Ruins of Sarnarth.
Oh, so we can see that there are 2 shit maps now.
>The core design of the game is to include abilities. If you don't like it, play QL. Abilities with different characters is going to make more complex TDM, CP, CTF etc. game modes with team based work. This is what the majority of gamers out there actually want. Worst case scenario- everyone plays the same OP character in DM.
Anyone who says to go play QL has no argument. I have nothing wrong with abilities. What I do have a problem with is when they override skill in terms of who gets a kill. Fucking wallhacks on Visor are nothing compared to Anarki's healing.
>This is a closed beta, what is wrong with you?
Yeah, more invites have been sent yet I'm still seeing the same 5 fuckers every other game.
>Bethesda vs Steam
Just admit you have no argument as to why it shouldn't be on a superior platform like Steam.
>Beta = final version
Ok, name me 5 instances where this has happened in the last 10 years. Go.
Quake Champions already ded game no matches
>>174749632
What ability would hunter have?
i dont know a lot about betas but games can be wildly different from closed and open beta
just look at paladins
it underwent major changes from closed to open beta
it basically became overwatch because hirez is retarded and would rather go after people who are too poor for overwatch than go for a game with a unique identity
>>174736392
Anybody have this? I'm curious as to where the viewmodel is located and if it sounds different.
>>174748131
that would be fine if it took 10 seconds to join a match, not 5 minutes with all of the retarded loading screens
>>174750306
Not sure about sound but it showed up in a recent gameplay video and the viewmodel is centered and shoots down the middle.
Okay /arena/
How much shit would you flip if he gets added?
>>174751298
>Thinking it was gonna be muh Doomguy bullshit
If id actually does it ill cry
>>174751298
>In 2009, the rights to the franchise were acquired by Bethesda Softworks and id Software parent company ZeniMax Media.
>>174751298
I'll be fucking impressed to bad the doom circle jerk is to fucking high
>>174751298
if anything from prey gets added it will be from nuprey
>>174751298
Spirit Arrows could be a pretty interesting Ability.
>>174751923
delet this
>>174751298
I'd rather have Turok, personally, but Tommy would be cool.
>>174750285
A debuff scream that slows and damages people or something.
Passive she can sense low hp targets and outlines them, and she moves faster towards them.
Just something I came up with in 5 seconds.
>>174750285
Causes other players to immediately stop fighting and start jerking off.
>>174751298
Ayyy dont forget my bros
>>174752316
Who are you again? Your like Bitterman but you arent Bitterman right?
>>174752316
>Quake 4 Lighting Gun is cosmetic.
I appreciated that they added that.
I can honestly say I enjoyed Q4 more than Doom 3. Q4's single player was just more varied.
>>174752494
He's Mildlydisgruntledman.
>>174752494
he's like bitterman but a bitch
>>174752316
>Devs tease a new STROGG CHARACTER
>Every goes crazy if its Bitterman or Tank Jr.
>Revealed
>ITS KANE
>>174749614
This
One big guy like Clutch camping with the Railgun disabling Anarki/Nyx from getting good pickups will heavily tilt a TDM in their favor.
>>174751298
I'd rather have Blazkowicz somehow added in. I feel like he got snubbed when Q3 came out.
How the fuck am I supposed to use Champions Nail Gun?
I land more hits with the Heavy Machine Gun. Nail Gun just feels like a downgrade unless some idiot is standing perfectly still or running straight towards me.
>>174753210
Corridors or close quarters. You can potentially trace air movement (except vs Anarki) if you git gud.
Did anyone else's daily challenges reset? What's the time on that anyway? I'm usually asleep at this hour.
>>174754037
yes, literally just now
i have no idea what its determined by
>>174753210
Projectile weapons like the NG just take time to get good at. However I think it's just going to be 100% outshined at all effective ranges by the LG
>>174754037
I think it reset on the hour this hour.
>Champions servers are going back offline tommorow afternoon
I want more Quake now, problem is I suck at them and if I go to Live I'm going to get raped by some guy who just knows the game inside out.
Could we set up a newbies server QL?
>>174754835
fugg I still haven't gotten the OG Rocket Launcher to test after selling literally all of my parts I can dismantle, I need more time!
did they change the mouse movement in this beta after the first one? It feels way more comfortable now for some reason.
>>174754835
I play QL almost nightly just join the allahu snackbar FFA server and git gud.
>>174755302
>he thinks they are still actively working on QC
haha
>>174755594
ded game
ded thred
>>174727867
there is, but it was made by some idiot who thinks sorlag is male
plus they got the face and rocket launcher design all wrong which somehow triggers me even more
>>174755995
homa
we're in quake
>>174755995
sorlag has a girl dick for dominating warm bloods
holy shit im never underestimating the gauntlet ever again
just played a match using nothing but it, ended up with 15 frags
most people dont know how to deal with someone who is running straight at you and its so fun seeing the terror in their eyes
>>174756364
>implying she needs a dick to do that
>>174756364
sorlag has a cloaca
did you not see her egg cosmetic
>>174756604
>>174756617
>tfw sorlag will never start tear off your arm and start eating it while she rapes your butthole and you're bleeding to death
furfags >>>/out/
reposting
https://my.mixtape.moe/qixfaf.webm
>>174756869
and in and out and in and out
>>174757000
whats this mymixtape thing and how big filesize limit does it have
>>174756752
>implying I won't want her to just outright devour all of me, turning my body into acidic goop as she laughs and prepares to spew my remains onto the quad pickup for another easy frag or two
>>174757000
>tfw not a fur fucker but sorlag's ingame model gives me an erection
>>174757064
100 mb
https://mixtape.moe/
>>174756617
she probably does but i really doubt that this is her egg
its way too big, must have been made by something at least thrice her size
New challenges
>Get 20 kills - 3000 points
>Get 1 "Impressive" - 3000 points
>Get 3 Gaunlet Kills - 2000 points
>reroll the last one that seems not worth the trouble for less points
>Get 2 First Blood - 2000 points
>>174756869
you mean scalies
is this challenge name a joke or something?
>>174757220
doesn't matter what label you arbitrarily slap onto yourself, your dick knows what your dick likes, no need to fight it
>>174757493
100% a joke. I love it.
Also it should be "using *an* Active Ability" not just "using Active Ability"
>>174757237
>must have been made by something at least thrice her size
so what you're saying isshe needs to be fed noobs until she's at least thrice her size?
>>174757437
get good, gauntlet kills are easy as fuck
QC is fucking dead right now, even the chat is silent. we're off to a great start
please tell me theyre not wiping everything this weekend
im so close
yet im still so far
i just wanted my laser pew pew
>>174758084
a friend of mine managed to get a q2 rail last week
all his cosmetics got wiped but he kept the rail
go gettem, son
>>174758290
kajsefhegdrbckiuq4y3ewgr
im gonna marathon this
HOLD ME
>le ambient soundtrack
>too much going on in le head can't focus
>i must find a way out of le place
>this is l'epic
the audio in this game is fucking worse than the atrocious menus
>>174758829
le kill yourself
>>174758829
>shitting on Ranger's dialogue
Yah nah m8
>>174757752
This. Especially with the bots Bethesda has us playing against.
>>174758290
YES
The rocket launcher I'm saving up for will be WORTH IT
>>174726212
He's annoying but not broken.
I don't think I've ever been in a game where he scored >3rd place.
WHERE IS THE NYX PORN!? FOR THE LOVE OF GODMODE MY DICK NEEDS IT!
>>174759532
nyx a shit
>galena trial ends
>cant topscore anymore
this game is broken
>>174759532
when hunter is added Nyx will be trash tier
>play serious sam second encounter hd online
>come across the same 5 laggy russians with 3000hrs + in the game who shit talk in chat when I top frag
The game is actually pretty fun but holy shit the fanbase is retarded. Why do so many russians play serious sam religiously?
>>174759768
slash is better
>>174746298
>More damage while zoomed
??? what gun are you talking about
>>174760061
slavs play anything old or free religiously
t. might and magic fan
>>174760096
railgun and hmg both deal more damage if you zoom
>>174760096
Railgun does 100 dmg zoomed and 80 base.
>>174760198
wierd. im gonna abuse that shit though
>>174754434
for now i feel like i win more midrange fights with the nailgun than the LG
FUCK the flak cannon in UT4. Takes zero fucking skill to use.
>>174760373
did the flak cannon ever really take skill
>>174753210
for me its the exact opposite
i love the nailgun because it deals way more damage and new people move so predictably
super nailgun is probably the most fun gun in the game
>>174753210
Lead your shots. Nailgun is god tier.
>>174760018
>when
If.
>>174760990
Why has Slorag?
>>174761085
To appeal to the scalie audience. Hunter is little more than tits and ass fap-bait, which already exists with Nyx.
>>174761259
there is like a billion chicks with blue hair in first person shooters already, and its bait for the common pleb
i havent seen many 7 foot amazon chicks lately
>>174761535
>7 foot
She's 6'6
>>174761674
good enough
>>174761259
Amazons are truly under rated
>>174760198
>HMG does 12 damage zoomed which is the same as SNG in base and zoomed with almost the same fire rate
B A L A N C E D
>buy mechanical keyboard, mouse with perfect sensor and 144hz display
>win
this is the state of arena fps
Can someone explain to me wtf is going on with the guns in champions? Sometimes it seems like lightning gun almost insta-kills, sometimes machine guns are garbage sometimes not
also the visual/audio on the lightning gun is complete garbage.
>buy a computer
>win
this is the state of arena fps
>>174760198
oh shit, I was wondering why my rails were doing 80 or 100 damage seemingly at random
>pay for all the toons in QC
>win
this is the state of arena fps
>>174761535
I know, I know, but bait for the common plen sells better than patrician snu-snu fetishists.
>>174761674
That's taller than most every other human in Q3A, and the taller ones are usually more robot than human.
>click on enemy
>win
THIS
>kill your enemies
>they win
this is the state of arena fps
>>174762780
lag mostly
>>174762780
netcode is fucked, people are shooting you on their screen before you know about it .5 seconds later. The damage lags behind and accumulates all at once it seems. LG would be put in its place if RL wasn't so fucky with the netcode too, with lag on every shot.
Classic arena FPS are about as challenging as Monkey Island, it's literally just point and click. What a bore, that's why they died. Modern arena shooters such as Overwatch have classes and make you press more buttons then mouse1 and WASD. They are infinitely more complex and entertaining.
>>174763350
i dont believe this
the preview footage has a delay on rockets as well
You know, it's just people who originally played arena shooters, well, they grew up. They either don't have time to play because of their families and job, or tired of playing something active and now sit before tv, playing consoles and farting in coach until they suffocate . Some just tired of arenas and sit in r6 and ow. And some are still here to play quake. But it's only a small fraction left.
thank god you can turn off the awful voices in qc
>>174764090
I KNOW A GOOD SLIPGATE
>>174759768
I've seen more successful Clutch stomps than I've seen Galena stomps.
>>174763508
wow very deep and insightful commentary
in the case that you guys wanted a well presentable case to show to others for QC rockets being shit, here you go
this was recorded with 60 ping, every match is like this for me and for what seems to be about everyone else too
>>174746214
or swap is out for something else that isn't as cancer. maybe a speed boost if anything
>>174764578
that delay seems right but i don't get the same issue with rocket jumping
props for making a vid on it now do a comparison one with quake 3 in a server with 60 ping as proofs
>>174764578
i was wondering why i felt like i was incredibly bad with rockets for no reason.
is my q3a broken or something? the lg lags behind for some reason. also how do i beat hunter
/arena/, explain one thing to me
why everyone is afraid to get their shit pushed in? I started playing QL like 2-3 years ago, with not much experience in Q3/CPMA(I played some defrag back in the day tho, so I was familiar with the movement). I fucking hate team modes, so I played nothing but duel most of the time. I don't know, I lost maybe 30 or 50 duels before I got my first win, but it was great experience, I had a lot of fun because I actually saw my improvement. I went from 900 glicko to 1700 in a couple of months, not too much but at least I can stand my ground now.
So why all these new people are so afraid of losing and learning? Quake is a fun game, after all, just don't play CA if you new.
I like QC but my fucking god starting a round takes 3 bazzilion years.
>>174764090
never mind.
>turn off voices so i don't to listen to rangers STUPID FUCKING voice lines
>it turns off the announcer as well and i have no idea when quad spawns
>>174765117
>having fun while losing
what a cuck
>>174764578
haha, oh wow, it's not like that for me at all. This is certainly a latency/netcode thing. It's too bad there isn't a toggeable netgraph so we could compare differences
>>174764578
it doesn't look like that for me. rockets are pretty much instant on my end, i didn't notice any delay at all. try reinstalling windows ;)
>>174764654
also i'll start up a game right now as ranger and record it as a comparison
mfw Galena players put Unholy Totem on the RL pickup
>shithead scalebearer on my team is -1 and 17
REEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>174766106
Remember to be nice to newbies and explain to them to not stand still while shooting its not fucking counter strike jesus
>>174766028
>blood convenant
>put it on every single jump pad
>guaranteed kills
>>174766187
but i can't aim while moving the game is too fast
i play QC similar to mass effect, hide behind a corner and the peak out. i use the zoom feature a lot. my fav weapon is the nailgun
>>174766301
And thats why you will always lose.
Iv got less than 20 hours in the whole quake series and its not that hard.
>>174766203
classic mode can't come any sooner
is it only me or does this game feel a lot slower than ql?
movement is slow
weapon change is slow
getting into a game is slow
waiting for the game to start is slow
>>174766594
they want the overwatch audience. this game is a joke
>>174766594
weapon switching feels the same
strafe jumping seels slower but playing anarki or slash feels faster
honestly quake 2 ctf is the fastest quake especially if its instagib
friendly reminder that a high TTK raises the skill ceiling and instagib is a casual mode for amateurs
>>174766301
>the game is too fast
this ain't the game for you
>>174766594
You always have quake live, its ded but you'll always have your elitist fags like yourself playing it.
>>174766594
most champs have lower movespeed than ql
I don't really like Quake, but Unreal Tournament is fucking dead. I really enjoy instagib, is it worth buying Quake Live just for that or should I wait for Champions? Are there enough (mediocre) players to get a game going, let's say at 5 in the morning, EU?
I already tried the two Quakes in the OP, they're both ghost towns.
>>174767313
there's people playing instagib ctf in quake 2 right now
>>174767593
That seems to be hosted in the US, I get a ping of 200 there.
>>174767887
are you an ausfag?
>>174767925
I'm from Germany.
>>174764578
here's what it looks like for me
apologies for terrible recording i didn't change my settings and don't feel like queueing up in another game just to re-record this
>>174767979
I'm pretty sure there's still a european quake 2 scene but they might only do duel.
do you think the devs are actually lurking in this thread or why are you censoring your QC screenshots/videos
>>174768284
ive seen some guys get banned because of it
>>174768284
They were issuing DMCA takedowns for nuDoom beta content so yes.
will this game have a server browser? this shit will be DOA if I have to queue for 3 minutes for every fucking match
>>174768540
i doubt it
besides if it does your guaranteed to only see anarkis because his ability is going to be broken if a game goes beyond 10 minutes
>>174768540
matchmaking is all you need, unless you just want to stomp some noobs and ruin their enjoyment of the game
>ql keeps crashing after playing qc
so this was the plan all along
who do you most want to sit on your face: nyx, slash, hunter, sorlag, orbb
>hackers in QC already rampant
i sure love me some f2p
>>174768916
where is the evidence
>>174768067
for comparison this is a server in quake live with over 300 ping for me
Newfag to quake and Im having fun.
I think if they market it enough it will be popular with newer players.
>>174769187
and this is quake live on my own server
>>174769302
Are you buying backpacks at every chance in hopes of getting armor?
Anyone got a webm of the fucking quake 2 rg in qc?
Goddamn shards are hard to farm when you always get fucking colors for skins and nothing else.
>>174769731
https://a.pomf.cat/yywdru.webm
>>174769813
>https://a.pomf.cat/yywdru.webm
Thanks m8, looks better than the default but nothing special.
>>174769646
I'm buying them in groups of 5 but after I got a reliquary chest it went from 190 to 195 and I've been buying them buy the 1's...
>>174769813
i was gonna buy the lg but now im sold to this
tfw only 15 crystals away from this
hhhhhhhhhhhh
>>174770030
>not buying by the largest pile for maximum profit
>>174768540
Custom servers are likely to be where they lock the "Classic" mode away to die.
>>174768417
Devs don't issue DMCA takedowns and nobody had to actually be in those threads for the one very specific image you're talking about to be content ID'd. Remember how a slightly modified version of it was still going around with no issue? That wouldn't happen if Beth lawyers were actually lurking threads or whatever the fuck you think was happening.
>>174769813
Is it too much to ask to have the satisfying animation when firing that Q2 had?
https://my.mixtape.moe/ckcfxv.webm
>>174770223
>>174770030
>>174769646
Are backpacks actually a good way to get that shit? Seems like you're always getting portraits, armor shaders and other junk you can't scrap out of them.
>>174770558
if you get a duplicate of any of that it autoscraps
>>174770558
you can get everything form every kind of boxi bet you can get one of those neat back things from them too
>>174770683
>i bet you can get one of those neat back things from them too
you can, I got the vamp wings for Galena
>>174770223
>having time to do that in a weekend
>>174770824
nice
too bad its getting wiped lmao
>>174770683
Love to know if anyone's gotten a permanent champion from a backpack yet :*)
>>174770836
what are you, some kind of grown up?
if they add bitterman they should give him quake 2 physics and the grappling hook
>tfw watching videos of long dead mods
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRvlsr8BwVA
its both relaxing and depressing
looks much better than valve's attempts at fortress games as well
>>174772937
also they got the scale of 2fort right unlike tfc and tf2 where it's tiny as fuck
Is there any reason why it feels like only half my shots register against Galena
>posting screenshots and videos despite the NDA
MOM'S GONNA FREAK
>>174772937
>ooks much better than valve's attempts at fortress games as well
lol
>>174773334
they halved the size of 2fort in TFC and TF2
you would understand if you weren't a tf2babby
explain this
>gets addicted to heroin
>face of a model
>>174773442
just like my japanese animes
>>174773442
>believing anti-drug propaganda like a good little boy
>>174773397
2fort5 has always been trash
So is the game shit? Also can you turn off that shitty sounding reverb shit?
>>174773547
Anarki pls go.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJeP_ceckqY
this in quake champs when
>>174771402
Someone posted a pic of them unlocking nyx a few threads back.
>>174773816
Never
say what you want about ut4, but the music is so much better than that muted ambient shit qc got
[muffled piano notes in the distance]
>>174774915
i fucking hate this shit
who designed that awful map
>>174736392
>>174769302
Finally got the Q1 RL. bretty good
>>174775632
does scalebearer hold the gun in the waiting screen if you have it equipped or does he hold the red one
>>174776183
He holds the default red one.
Anyone else noticed the inaccessible areas outside of Blood Covenant with items in them? Even trying to use a dire orb to get on them teleports you off into the void. I get the feeling that they might be planning larger versions of the existing maps.
Stand on the edge of the "Window" behind the armor vest to see what I'm talking about. I've also seen some stuff having my camera glitch through the wall from a laggy dire orb.
>>174776659
it was meant to be larger. there was at least an extra room near the yellow armor launchpad.
you can see it in scalebearer's ability demonstration
>>174775632
what doses it sound like WHAT DOES IT SOUND LIKE
UPLOAD WITH SOUND
AAAAAAAAA
>>174778735
this
>>174722413
new reflex announcer is pretty good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9y1qEeBcPk
>>174771402
I got two, actually.
I got slash from my very first crate, and that fat robot fuck in another
>>174779721
He sounds hysterical, not badass.
>can't complete a single match because it's either the team rqing through the first minute or getting matched against hackers
fun beta
>>174768776
Sorlag and Hunter
>>174768776
ranger
Rangers voice reminds me of Caleb from Blood.
>>174763386
THE
I KNOW A GOOD SLIPGATE TO SHOVE YOU IN
>>174775632
Then post a webm of it...
Post your main.
>>174785571
TOO REAL TO BE A NIGHTMARE, TOO PAINFUL TO BE REAL
WHEN YOU'RE 20 FEET TALL AND THROWING LIGHTNING, _THEN_ YOU CAN FACE ME
WHEN YOU'VE BEEN HERE THIS LONG, NOTHING AND EVERYTHING MAKES SENSE
>tfw no slipgate to take you home
>increase resolution scaling to 150%
>the 255 ping spike with the freeze stops and only happens rarely
>however game feels like shit on ~60 fps
sasuga id
XAXAXA FUCK URE NOOB MATHER ))
>>174773504
that dumb spinning animation triggers me so much
it was literally made just to get people to look at her butt and even knowing this i cant help but look every time she does it
>>174785838
Scalebearers ability seems pretty shit, same goes for his passive.
>>174787004
>game isn't even out yet and already infested with russians and hackers
we've had a good run bros
>>174749112
>>174749206
>>174749317
The Rangers Bio says hes's basically been traveling through slipgates for so long he's lost all of his resolve. His quotes and facial expressions are actually perfect and show more emotion than an entire AAA game. Just him standing there looking like he just lost his best friend is actually very well done.
>>174773816
>1v1 ctf
interdasting
>>174787425
How did you afford the vanity?
>>174787783
Got it from a box
>>174787841
>all that armor
>face cables
yeah nah son
post the full screenshot
>>174787436
its actually really fucking good, but its probably the only thing that makes it worth playing him desu
you need to predict where people are going to be and charge in advnace
soundwhore the shit out of that dumb slash across the corner, and then start charging around it to instagib her
it only does 75 dmg if you use it at close range, but it does 175 if you charge for at least about half a second
if you use it well you can literally get a free kill almost every time you do it (unless you charged into a tank that has more than 150hp/25armor)
passive is only useful for instagibbing people while youre on bouncepads
yes, heavyweight works when you fly up fast as well, not just falling fast
>>174787995
175? Guess I'll try him out again.
Good god, these capchas are really starting to piss me.
>>174788168
use legacy captchas, they don't punish you for fucking answering the question too fast or for "how your cursor moves to click on the button"
>>174788293
Or just buy a pass ;)
>>174787920
>>174788168
I take it back, he's awful. It's so much more difficult to avoid enemy fire. Presumably because of his awful speed / acceleration and large hitbox. Once someone put a LG on me I was assured to die. The gimmicky charge kills don't go anywhere near to account for his weaknesses.
Bit worried this game is just going to revolve around the top 1 or 2 characters.
>>174787141
you know there are females that like showing off their butt right anon? not every female in the world is the prude you want them to be.
whelp, wonder how it would take to get to someone on this level
>>174788596
yeah LG and SMG are the absolute bane of any tank
if you get caught out while jumping you're just gonna get knockeback to a standstill
the trick is to abuse your environment and abilities as much as possible to make it hard for people to chase you
never chase others unless you know they're low hp
use RL, RG, and SG over continously shooting guns like LG so that you can a) abuse corners and b) burst down your enemies' hp before that can take advantage of your large hitbox
unfortunately with the current state of the RL being so hard to use for those who don't have fibre tanks are unecessarily hard to use
though maybe a few lighter classes could handle a few small nerfs to even to playing field
>>174788451
good goy
>>174789169
>toxjq
>with crouch sliding
sounds like you must have had a good time
>>174786301
I hard capped my fucking framerate to 60fps and it did nothing for the ping spike and disconnect- all it did was make me auto-disconnect with an "error 104" instead of directly booting me to the login screen.
>>174787514
>Q1 Ranger
>woken up at 4 AM, given a staple gun and told to take down an eldritch abomination
>pissed as fuck
>Q3 Ranger timeline
>goes mad from the revelations and remains pissed as fuck, which isn't helped by being kidnapped into an arena to fight for a bunch of assholes' amusement
>QC Ranger timeline
>spent TWENTY YEARS traversing the slipgates before being sent to the Arenas, barely even manages to be pissed off now because he's spent so long by himself shooting things that should not be he's started actually calling himself Ranger
LG is too strong and has too long reach.
>>174789998
reduce the knockback if hit in the front
>>174789169
I bet his best weapon was LG
>>174786301
So is it ping spikes that are causing the random freezes always, or are there other factors? I have low ping and high fps but the stuttering is giving me a headache.
>>174793152
He was mainly on LG and Rail. I feel happy enough to put some fight against some of these big Quake names at least. Most people playing don't seem to understand FPS games much.
>>174789998
Increase damage reduction by distance.
>>174778735
>>174785798
>>>/wsg/1654768
Here you go lads.
>>174794589
Booo. Not booming enough.
>>174787581
You haven't experienced fast until you use the grappling hook
For some insight into exactly how fucked up the netcode is right now: I just played a match where I spat Sorlag's acid ability on the mega health platform in Blood Covenant while I was apparently desynced and actually humping a wall in the LG room, but the acid spit still came out where my client was desynced to and killed the guy going for mega.
>>174788543
>>174787425
how much does a vanity item sells for?
>>174796827
You can sell them for 50 or buy them for 200.
>>174797107
well thats pretty lame
i was hoping at least 100 for something so rare
Qc would be 20% better if Anarkis movement was default.
>>174798301
Q2 movement > QW movement
>>174796765
So this is why I occasionally find wall humpers.
>>174798632
The game also occasionally locks up and keeps the input from whatever direction I was moving in until I unfreeze, which makes me walk into a wall, but I've noticed when it happens I never take damage so I'm assuming it affects the whole server.
When we gonna make a pastebin for this general?
>>174799378
you gonna do the write up?
>>174799378
i already maintain pastebin for somewhere else i'm not doing it for here as well
are the servers shitting themselfs or what? I keep lagging like crazy
>>174799378
What even is there to pastebin?
>>174800648
povohats meme mouse driver
Whose idea was it to make the best movement style best active ability best girl a fucking XXL low movespeed heavy champion?
>>174800953
????
Anyone wanna play QL with a scrub?
>>174800573
Yea, it's getting a lot worse than yesterday.
>>174800953
>how to correctly balance
meanwhile Clutch is the antithesis of Quake.
>just le standstill or walk and you will take less dmg xd
>straight lines make you go faster!
>it's ok if he has the biggest hitbox in the game and is slow as shit as long as he can stack 200/150 right?
>>174801773
don't discount clutch just yet. I saw a team that had his team mate grab quad and the clutch would just stand in front of him with his shield up.
They had several obscenely good quad runs. In coordinated play clutch may be good
>>174801313
i would but i played quake all yesterday and this morning and need a break
Friendly reminder that if you play galeena in her current state you are scum and deserve death irl
>>174800953
>best movement style
wat
>>174802020
Tough shit. I play as her because I like her character, not because of any hitbox shit.
>>174801906
True, I'm sure he will see some good team play like most the heavies. There's no way they can adequately balance these kinds of characters for all game modes.
I wonder how skills will be implemented while holding a flag in CTF. You probably can't use them but if you could, Nyx and Ranger would be ridiculous carriers.
And Clutch could be a good defender.
>>174802148
i hate that permanent sneer on her face
>>174802302
I kind of like the idea of clutch in coordinated play, like having a character holding at red armor on blood covenant and just drawing fire may be really good, and taking less damage while moving means hes just a distraction. But until we actually can get coordinated games its just pure speculation. Clutch on base d in ctf would be god mode
And yeah ctf is going to be interesting I'm not sure what they're going to do. Most likely its going to be a universal no abilities while holding flag deal.
>playing qc
>doing shit
>cant hit rails
>cant hit rockets at all
>dying so much to shit i can't even see
>switch to ql
>hitting rails
>hitting rockets
>doing good
It's because of the netcode right?
>>174794589
>deault qc rocket sounds
not buying it
>>174802036
Sorlag gets legitimate 100% actual Quakeworld movement (Anarki's isn't QW) but it's hamstrung by her movespeed.
>>174802636
Ought to just be for movement abilities since champs with instant ones can just drop the flag and pick it back up anyway
>>174802302
High speed grab into dire orb fying opposite direction. Imagine. I've noticed that in qc bhopping downstairs gives you momentum. You can reach really high speed on ramp as anarki and never stop with his air control.
>>174802926
Wait can sorlag ACTUALLY bunnyhop? I thought the description was wrong. I thought she had painkiller b-hops.
And that would be ideal for ctf, I'd be interested to see how they're going to.
>>174802926
Elaborate how this is different from strafejumping? I thought her bhop ablilty is just discount strafejumping any other caracter can do.
>>174803005
>>174803107
If you can't actively use skills or you drop the flag, the BEST carriers would be Anarki and Visor depending on the map. If there's enough straight aways, Visor takes the cake. Sorlag has a speedcap doesn't she?
>>174803107
>>174803318
>>174802926
>>174802636
No CTF sorry.
>>174802537
Not quite permanent, but I like it.
>>174803374
source me RIGHT now or I will kill you
>>174803374
Of course CTF will be in.
>>174803485
>wearing squamata over hamata
>>174803107
Yeah, the description is wrong. You get extra speed on the first jump and then it's QW bunnyhopping to gain speed, just woefully slow. She's also probably the largest champ in the game, wish they'd put her in the same "weight class" as Visor instead.
>>174803260
You hold A or D and turn into the strafe and have a lot of air control while doing it. Description makes it sound like autohop from WSW/the shitty QL Steam launch update that got reverted but it isn't, it's Quake 1/Half-Life/CS style bunnyhopping.
>>174803665
oh my fuck
2 more hours
please tell me there's another beta weekend soon
>>174803665
Does it really work this way? Because I reflectively turn mouse as I jump and I seem to be moving faster on any character, not just on visor or sorlag.
And as far as I remember warsow autohop didn't add much speed without turning and strafing.
>>174803485
>put two totems at the exit of a teleporter
>instagib the next guy who walks through
:)
>>174803995
I wish I could play but the last 2 games I played were incredibly laggy.
>mfw I see a poor visor-playing bastard in my game
>god tier
campgrounds/blood covenant
>ok tier
ruins of sharnath
>faggots doing nothing but railcamp main hall tier
burial chamber
>>174804614
>when they have a galeena on their team
This is the ideal male body. You may not like it, but this is peak performance.
>>174804614
SHIT I MEANT CLUTCH
also, galena or scalebearer, you may as well be afk
>>174804702
>actually space to strafejump with visor tier
burial chambre
>cramped legs and laggy fegs
everything else
>>174804702
>>174804702
you got the order mixed up
Has anyone even used Scalebearer's passive without the active?
>>174805054
I have yet to play with and against him. He seems really boring to play in a DM gamemode.
CTF added with more maps when?
>>174805054
The only time it's even feasible to use at this point is on jump pads I think. I think I managed to bump into someone once after I managed to get acceleration for 10 seconds but I doubt it did much.
>>174805014
>no counterargument
>hahaha retard lol
campgrounds is a classic q3a map used in duels
ruins is like a mix of q3dm7 and q3dm13 with quad and mega being relatively close to each other
burial chamber is a bad deck16
>>174804740
his slanted hairline triggers me.
>>174805682
>not his mongoloid face
>>174806319
pretty average desu. his ears could be pinned back put that's about it.
>>174804089
Try building speed on any other champ without touching W after the first jump.You can go down the big ramp on Burial Chamber and gain speed without touching anything except for space but obviously that doesn't count.
how many areas of the screen have to be censored for QC clips
>>174806597
the whole bottom text, chat and kill feed if you're in it. anything with you're ign.
>>174805445
>blood covenant same as campgrounds
>>174804784
>STOPWATCH
>EXCELLENT
>STOPWATCH
>SHOCKER
>>174807101
Do you just sit your fat ass on the armor or something?
>>174806752
this is so fucking aids it's impossible in vegas
>>174807379
Yes, it's not like the character can move anyway. You gotta work off his strengths by stacking armor and camping.
>>174807397
You can't just insert an image of black over some parts and crop the bottom off?
What's making my HP gradually increase as the match goes on?
>>174806987
>can't disprove it
>haha retard again
off the internet for today, little johnny
blood covenant IS q3dm6
>>174807942
I'm assuming you're anarki, every time you self heal it raises your max hp
>>174808010
Cool, thanks!
>>174808138
anytime bro
>>174807968
>2+2=5
>you're retarded
>NO IT DOES
>you're retarded
>n-not an argument
>>174807942
Anarki's skill will increase your max pool by 2 everytime you use it. It's the sketchy because it sucks unless you use it at the beginning of the match and never change champions. Not worth using Anarki if you join mid match. No one else punishes you for picking someone else.
@174808249
you haven't done anything to disprove the claim, just throwing 'haha retard bohoos' because you know I'm right
it's ok, can't excpect much more from a 12yo
>>174806576
What would that mean? I don't know any technique of gaining movement speed that does not include touching W.
>>174808402
I don't get this "@" meme. Why do people do it?
Been lurking for years
to notify the other shitter that their post is so dumb it's not even worth quoting
>>174808402
>YOU STILL HAVEN'T DISPROVED THE SKY IS YELLOW SO YOU MUST BE UNDERAGE
>>174808531
he doesn't want to give me a (you)
>>174808531
it's to deny the (you)
>>174808629
>>174808531
>>174808703
You should take a gander at /poeg/, a lot of times they don't link to a post or even do the @ shit because "(You)s are currency"
https://www.pcgamesn.com/quake-champions/quake-champions-q3dm6
>same layout
>exact same pickup spawns
>LALALA CAN'T HEAR YOU U DUMB LOL
>>174808405
Quakeworld bunnyhopping.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6jm9iGW2Co
A lot of the balance issues with the heavier characters comes from the LG doing 7 damage instead of 6. So it does about 16% more damage than it did in quake live.
Not only that, the rockets move slower than in quake live, and the rockets have delay. Combine this with the hitbox differences and it makes sense why fast, smaller characters are kicking so much ass
placement of megahealth in blood covenant seems kind of shitty desu. mega is supposed to be in a vulnerable position so you can't get there early and camp it. on covenant it's awkward to get to and defensible.
https://youtu.be/1nmngte-d14?t=3800
why are these adventure maps so c00l
>>174808854
>different mega spawn
>bridge and tele next to ya
>no bridge to rail without walljump
>easily fight next to ra
>same as dm6
you done being stupid now?
>>174809021
Netcode also randomly stops you fucking dead in the middle of bhop/strafejump and since it's so much more difficult to gain momentum as a heavy it really screws you over.
>>174808908
Ok, now I get it, never played qw. How is this any superior to jumping with AW/WD input? I genuinely curious.
>>174809103
that's because originally mega was on one of the pillars, while RA originally spawned where YA spawns now
in duels mega spawns where quad normally would
@174809270
>moving goalposts
simply epic my man
ignore @poster
>>174809472
>IT'S THE EXACT SAME
>LISTING THE DIFFERENCES THAT COMPLETELY CHANGE HOW THE MAP IS PLAYED IS MOVING THE GOALPOSTS
can we stop calling them red armor and yellow armors?
why not just call them big armor and small armor?
Does /arena/ have a steam group?
jesus fucking christ i hate how some medals arent displayed in the summary
ok, cool, i got a medal, apparently a big deal because it's bigger than the other ones
BUT WHAT DID I EVEN DO
>>174809740
they armor pickups seem like placeholders from doom, i'd imagine they'll be made into red and yellow armors
>>174809392
You can weave in the air, hit small platforms easier (Though there aren't a lot of those at the moment) and do sharper turns without any loss to momentum. You might also be able to ramp with it but there's nowhere in the current map pool to reliably test ramping.
Mostly I just like how it feels having played a fucktonne of QuakeWorld/Quake 1 SP/Half-Life co-op/TFC et cetera.
I don't understand the reasoning behind this weird rounding thing with hp and armor pickups.
12hp - > 25hp
13hp - > 50 hp
Why not just make it 25 across the board?
>>174807101
I feel like the only way you're ever going to beat people is if they're new. Unless he really has massive damage reduction.
>>174809894
closest we got: https://steamcommunity.com/groups/qln
>>174809908
you killed someone with slash's ability, if you go to your profile under metals you can hover over icons to see what they are
>>174809908
Did you crouch slide someone's testicles off?
>>174809908
you can look at them in your profile thing
its pretty retarded that they dont even tell you what you did if you mouseover or something
also, how the fuck are you supposed to telefrag someone
>>174810128
but I was playing ranger all the time
>>174809908
>the censor bars on the champions and skulls
kek
The ones with purple around them are based on your champion skills. I think that one is deadly slipgate.
is the bethesda site not loading for anyone else
Anyone got the QC weapons/vacuum cleaners comparison image?
>>174810253
deadly slipgate has the dire orb symbol though
maybe its if you jump on someone's head with your feet and crack it open?
>>174810321
Disable your adblocker bruuuuhhh
>>174810014
I never played any of these. Current movement feels pretty similar to qlive (besides being slower) except for anarki. His air control is just ridiculous.
And yeah, current maps barely even need any of advanced techniques like circling or rocketjumping.
I just wasted 5000quakebux.
I wonder if I'll even get top 5.
>>174810424
just play tdm bro :))))
>>174810384
hecking beth kikes
>>174810352
>>174811248
kek
>6/13 and still top fragger on my team
Thanks icefrog
>>174810424
Feels like shield camping with a railgun is one of the few ways to do anything.
>>174810401
Still not as ridiculously funas CPMA.
>>174811248
Good joke.
>>174811953
>go ranger
>SHUB SLAYER
>done
I've had this quest 3 times and it's piss easy
>>174812021
So?
They're making a joke. There's a lot of old 'pure skill shooter' marketing around AFPS because you don't have random ass skills and shit.
>>174812021
That wasn't the point you fucking retard.
>>174811953
>new people to quake will just think it's talking about champion skills
>arena shooters will see it as tongue in cheek that they've taken the skill out of a once even playing ground
L A Y E R S
>>174738773
did they finally release him?
>>174812895
it's ranger
Are they going to add Nicholas Raine and B.J. Blazkowicz to Quake Champions?
>>174813331
They should add the wolfenstein nazis.
why is the play button disabled in my quake champions client?
>>174814227
beta over nerd
>>174814227
I've found game after announcement. Neat
>>174802926
>Sorlag gets legitimate 100% actual Quakeworld movement (Anarki's isn't QW)
Holy shit, has this been posted anywhere else?
>>174814262
R.I.P. :(
Got in one last game before the shutdown. Surprisingly there was almost no lag at all compared to every other game I played.
Fuck Galena.
That last poor soul didn't even get to play one game of Champions.
>>174814605
>>174810253
holy shit I didn't even see those bars at first, that's hilarious
10/10 anon
>couldn't even play because of the net related issue
hopefully they'll fix for next phase
>>174814884
Don't get your hopes up.
Where is this in Burial Chamber?
Realized I never saw it while playing.
https://my.mixtape.moe/ghazlw.webm
hehe sit down snore*lag
making these is way too much effort for what you get out of it
>>174815137
shit ain't loading m8
>>174815137
>>174815490
mixtape.moe is fucked right now
try pomf.cat or one of the other variants
>>174815127
Nope I didn't see it either. What is this image from?
I'm already hungry for some more fragging
>>174815671
The blurb for the map on the QC website. Also has this in it. I think there might end up being unlocked areas for maps in larger scale gamemodes.
>>174815910
This is somewhere outside of Blood Covenant. The wall behind one of the yellow armor equivalents is opened up in the Ruins of Sarnath screenshots too.
>>174816343
This could easily be scrapped content but it'd be weird for them to leave it in their promotional shots if that was the case.
>>174814818
hello quacksa**** :)
>>174811248
Quake has always been vaccuum cleaners and blowing devices.
how exactly does the hp/armor in this game work
I had 53 hp, picked up a globe and had 75
>>174817225
wait what how did you see it? was it from the deleted image or were you in my game
>>174817596
They round it off. see
>>174810019
>>174817828
yeah from the deleted image, based appchan x
i dont report /arenag/ anons though
Remove extra damage on zoom.
Add Orbb.
Orbb gets extra damage on zoom because he's a giant fucking eye.
Fixed your game, you're welcome.
Now that Quake Champions beta is over for the weekend, I feel like my Reflex Arena game is a little bit stronger. The lag and rocket delay were like training weights.
>>174818545
I know that feel but with Quake 2 and Live.
This QC beta made me appreciate Reflex/CPMA and QL even more. Really glad QL is still somewhat alive.
>>174818216
>Remove extra damage on zoom.
Wait what. WHAT. Zooming in adds damage?
>>174820489
Increases rail damage from 80 to 100
Increases HMG damage from 9 to 12.
To put that one in perspective, that's the same damage of the super nail gun on almost the same firerate.
I know it makes no sense.
>>174820754
sng does 20 per shot
this is nowhere near to close
>>174820896
SNG does 12 per shot.
>>174821095
k, my bad
>>174820896
plasma gun when
grenade launcher when
>>174821606
nailgun exists and you can climb walls with it
dunno
>>174821606
Nailgun is the ghetto plasma gun, we're not getting it. It'll just clutter the weapon spawns.
Grenade launcher I want to see. They might end up making it exclusive to certain game modes like CTF or something.
>>174821606
>>174821757
>>174821790
Plasma Gun skin for Nailgun when?
is it just me or does the nailgun basically outclass the LG at this juncture in the beta
>>174822302
t. bad
>>174822461
>yfw i topfragged nearly every TDM game i played this weekend
>yfw i haven't played quake since q4 first came out
>>174822302
everyone - laugh at this 4chan poster immediately
>>174822685
>topfrag
>tdm
>>174822685
damn its almost as if a shit ton of people who have literally never played quake got into a beta where there's no type of skill rating for proper matches between similar skill levels
woah....
>>174822685
this anon doesn't seem to think that doing well against randoms despite not playing quake for years just means that the vast majority of beta players are just awful
>>174794589
I know its suppose to represent whatever quake this rl came from but the angling of is is still weird as fuck and doesn't fit with the game imo.
>>174823368
I WANT UNDERAGE TO LEAVE
>>174823368
Nice bait.
>>174823368
It's not a real id game until switching to the rocket launcher makes it look like your character is holding their giant deformed cyborg dick.
>>174824023
Q2 has the best looking rocket launcher
>>174824229
Q2's RL was awful.
>>174824346
Best look and sounds and it only came out a year after Quake yet looks ten times better.
get taste
>>174824861
>Best look and sounds
>>174825129
bretty gud
>>174823293
>>174823036
and i'm totally okay with this
>>174825119
Trent Reznor is overrated his cut sound set for Doom 3 was just engineered stock sounds which is why they replaced him. Besides the GL for Quake is objectively better than the shitty sounding RL.
>>174821757
nailgun has an arc and doesnt look fucking cool
i dig it, but its not plasma gun
>>174825129
whats ur ping? my rl has insane delay compared to that and i have 50-60ping
zoomed in machine gun is fucking ridiculous
>>174826948
Yes its very strong
it's the occasional stupid shit that happens that makes this game fun
>>174826948
>zoomed in HMG with quad
why do people recommend ffa on ql to get better when it's just one big cluster fuck of being lucky to survive not getting spawn fragged?
>>174828620
personally I wouldn't reccomend ffa, but it is not luck based, really at all. Sure sometimes you'll spawn in front of a dude with weapons and you're fucked but controlling items such as armors and a few weapons is a very easy way to guarantee high scores.
>>174828620
FFA was made for like 8-10 players max don't join the one with 20 players if you don't want to get spawnfragged negro
>>174827225
>not chasing people with quad gauntlet around and humiliating the whole server
>>174830245
Unfortunately they knew how to hold m1 and s at the same time to backpedal from the guy with the ominously purple glowing giant pizza slicer of death
>>174810424
Clutch is a RG god. Anarki and Nyx can be one-shot, you can two-shot almost everything else. 150+100 takes 3 RG shots, or 2+change RL shots, and that's plenty of time to put two RG shots into your attacker. Since you move slowly while zoomed anyway, you can hold shift and walk for a 20% damage reduction, taking 80 from a zoomed RG shot, meaning you might take up to FOUR RG shots if you're against a sniper competitor.
With Barrier as an ability, leaving you invulnerable from an attacker for at least 50% of the time between your own RG shots, Clutch is a mean lean beast when in a good position. Despite being ripped apart by HMG/MG and LG and potentially being bagged on spawn position because he's slow, once he's built up he's very hard to bring down. Get a shotgun and bully people with barrier to get rolling early, and once you get rolling don't miss your RG shots.
Timing Clutch's barrier cooldown for protection on somebody else picking up Quad spawn in TDM can be huge. He's a character to constantly nab hourglasses on.
Also apparently you get an outline on Nyx if she goes invis while you have barrier active or something.
>>174832154
>Also apparently you get an outline on Nyx if she goes invis while you have barrier active or something.
This is a very welcome bug for him, but it will be fixed.
>>174825129
see, this is what I've been saying.
If you aren't getting fucked by some weird latency/netcode thing, the RL is hot.
also ppl are terrible right now and move like predictable retards
>>174826560
my ping while playing always "says" 22 or 21
it never flunctuates which is weird since the entire games feel like 60 something bordering on 79
When's next cycle?
I played some Ranger and almost entirely Clutch this cycle. I felt satisfied, I really don't have complaints, I think he can't be too good at DM or he'll be insane in the right team on TDM.
What should I rent next?
>>174835597
they haven't said yet
i'd rather have them skip a week and add meaningful content than put out the same one with no changes
So some netcode bits
apparently tries to run at approx 120/125hz server updates to client
and your client will try to send an update to the server for every frame you have. So the more frames you have, the more updates the server gets on you, assuming your router doesn't commit sedoku
who knows what's happening if the server/client gets desynced, because I've never experienced rubberbanding or weird time lapses. Or how the server handles dudes on remote desktop operation of a toaster emulating a jailbroken iphone using a satellite connection after reflecting AM waves off a cloud to get to the receiver on the other side of a mountain. Who knows if the server is just sending a bunch of interpolation and only putting together real updates once every second, or whatever.
Worst I've ever had was activating Clutch's barrier, get visibly RGed through the barrier, and respawn with the Barrier unused, and a Slash who travelled through time and space so hard a bunch of level 29s would get hit by pizza cutters before they could physically see the Slash. Some pretty awful stuff, but there were plenty of super smooth games I didn't even think about.
I thought by Beta Weekend it would close shop on Monday.
Now what do I play for some Quake goodness?
Preferably with other crappy players.
>>174838837
quake live has the most players and newbies
quake 1 and 2 can be played for free and out of the two, quake 2 has a far more organized and active community with lots of mods
>>174838953
and by active i mean when it comes to multiplayer
there's plenty of quake 1 SP mods still being made
>>174838837
QL with me
>>174840376
you mean quake 2 with ME
>>174838837
>>174840376
>>174840473
w i c k l a n d
>try to play QL to fill the gap
>DM servers are set to 32 max players and it's just pure chaos
sadfrog.tiff
>>174841195
play on the allahu snackbar FFA server
>>174823368
Aside from this anon having a seizure, I do agree that >>174794589 looks kind of off- the launcher is held properly, but the recoil constantly goes up and to the left, even when standing perfectly still and firing straight, like it was designed to be held on the right side of the screen and they moved it to center at the last second. It should be a straight recoil back towards the player's viewpoint, like every other version of the Q1 RL.
>>174838513
>and your client will try to send an update to the server for every frame you have. So the more frames you have, the more updates the server gets on you, assuming your router doesn't commit sedoku
My connection commits sudoku no matter what the fuck I do, I manually locked my frames to fucking 60 and still got disconnected. What a bunch of rubbish, whose idea was it to directly link clientside framerate to network updates?
>>174840934
deadasfuckland
>>174838837
Reflexif there are any players
>>174843114
no idea, but realistically you should get a more modern router, and honestly sending an update per frame could be pretty silk if everything can handle it (and everyone was running the game at least 120 FPS)
>>174844740
I'd love to except I'm not the one in control of my connection. That aside, I can keep cmd open in the background and watch my connection shit out, but it never drops entirely and the router doesn't actually die, the connection only gets bad once Q:C starts eating up all my upload bandwidth after a minute or so of which I'm auto-disconnected.
>>174844897
you know, I said "realistically you should..."
I should have said "ideally you should..."
-Realistically- they're going to need to take the Overwatch route on netcode so /everybody can play/ and they get more money.
Just sayin.
That's reality.
instagib when
also how do you pronounce gib
as "jib" or as "gib"?
cause ive heard a youtuber pronounce it as "jib"
>>174849091
it's jib for giblets
>>174849091
Jib, as in giblets. At least that's how it was in the ROTT days.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Opak6RvbnQ&t=222s
some more memes 4 thread
>>174850401
How does a Quake 4 video have so many views?
>>174809150
damn that video is comfy to watch
has anyone played this new mod? I heard the developers got hired by the half-life creators
>>174854449
There's still servers you can go to play it on. Quake 2 had gloom which is awesome.
did any of you oldfags play tf2 back in 2007? what was it like?
>>174856910
It was beautiful. Poorly balanced, but beautiful.
>>174856910
I thought it felt pretty barebones compared to TFC.
>>174856910
It was cool to play especially coming from RtCW/ET so the whole engi/medic +other classes combo felt amazing. Also less Russians or small kids in general.
Does Nyx's walljump let her do cool things that are worthwhile?
>>174860602
bridge to rail
>>174860602
She just gets up momentum, you don't actually jump perpendicular off walls like UT2004. You basically just get a double jump near a wall.
>>174862212
I love her already, definitely in my top-three with Visor and Ranger forming a fun-flavored sandwich*. *-Theoretically because I'm still not in the Beta.
>>174835597
This Thursday till Sunday.
>>174863525
you can use spoiler tags for things like footnotesby pressing ctrl+s on your keyboard
though nyx isnt one of the stomp champs, shes the perfect champ if there is someone really good on the enemy team since you can just f and take positional advantage
i havent played visor, but ranger is a guaranteed loss if the enemy has a galena or anarki at the same level as you
the positional advantage is so minimal and the most you can use it for is grabbing the mega or ra before your opponent gets there
>>174863802
Ranger is better than anarki because he can survive a rocket or rail.
>>174865316
doesnt matter because someone with more mobility can easily outmaneuver the netcode rockets and rails are only 1shot for the first minute until anarki uses his skill once or twice
after 5 minutes hes literally ranger with insane mobility and instant heals
not only that but if you ate a rail and caught out of position chances are youll die as anyone
>>174856910
I had orange box at the start, but never played it. Probably because my isp was utter shit.
I hated its artstyle at first too.
next beta when
I need to shove people into slipgates again
>>174865542
>rails are 100 damage
Anarki has to ability about 9 times to have over 100 hp
>>174867164
read
>>174863567
>>174867206
If you pick up a single armor shard from spawn, you're good.
>>174867567
You have to inject 9+ times AND pick up a shard
97 hp 5 armor still dies to zoomed rail..
>>174867898
You start with 25 armor though, on everyone except Clutch and Sorlag who get 50.
97/5 does not die to a zoomed rail, you are left with 2 hp. Armor is essentially HP except it's not taken at 2:1 ratios.
For example: If you're at 100/100 and take a zoomed rail, you should be at 67/33.
Anarki starts at 75/25, so going to 75/30 will leave you at 5 after.
>>174868074
it IS taken at 2:1 ratios.*
>>174867567
>this thursday till sunday
sauce?
>>174868074
And you confirmed that they didn't change the armor system ingame?
>>174868157
On the forums.
>>174868262
friggin noice
>>174868247
I just looked back at a vod.
144/132 -> 142/126 from starting MG (8 dmg). It took -2/-6 = -8
Another time, I was at 150/4, took an MG shot (8), and went to 146/0, -4/-4 = -8
As Clutch, standing still (20% damage reduction) and tanking an unzoomed railshot (80), I went from 150/146 to 134/98, -16/-48 = -64 which is -20% off 80.
The ratio has changed to 1:3 in this game it looks like.
>>174869243
are you telling me than an AFK Clutch can take 5 unzoomed rail shots
>>174871437
From full stack he can tank 5 while still OR walking.
From spawn he can tank 3.
>>174871437
He can take 5 rails but dies to 0.5 sec of LG fire
B A L A N C E D
>>174818216
>Add Orbb
Fuck no, the way the actually make hitboxes different for each champion means Orbb would be a nightmare. Think Oddjob in Goldeneye but 10x worse. Worse than Galena.
>>174873921
also he's gross and dumb looking
>>174873921
They can redesign him. Make him taller.
>>174874261
>slightly bigger
>takes 8 dmg instead of 7 per tick of LG because it's light and he's a giant eyeball
>>174827225
>switching weapons
we have a word for people like you
that word isPUSSY
>>174876529
It would have been fucking cool if he had thrown his ability and TPed to someone else for an instant humilating kill.
There's a lot of potential for cool shit with Ranger.
>>174876529
>rushed a guy who had quad+rl with the gauntlet
>killed him
>pussy
>>174856910
You had to work as a team to win.
Now everyone just plays soloish and can still win that way
>>174856910
I played it a lot between 2008 and like... 2011?
Back when I started people were essentially trash. The entire community got better very quickly. I remember for example how easy it was to play spy in 2008, but as players got better fooling them got much harder, which is why spy was buffed constantly over the course of the years.
Don't believe this >>174877659 guy, it's just another case of "it was better before".
>No beta today
rip
You guys are breaking NDA
Please use the official forums over on Betheda's site.
But anyway what are 3 SMALL gameplay changes /arena/ would like for next weekend?
Please refrain from answers like
>1, netcode 2, netcode 3, netcode
>fix rocket delay
>add hunter
etc...
>>174879024
More crosshairs
remember to filter tripfag cucks
>>174879294
filtered
>>174879024
All ms increased by 10%
Anarki's movement set to default movement (or sorlag but haven't played enough to say)
Item timers on HUD (that's right bruh)
higher splash damage and knockback on RL
Does Reflex actually see an increased playercount on Turbo Tuesdays or is it too ded even for that?
Did anyone else encounter this?
On the sardon ruins or whatevers i called, at the quad room, you can teleport yourself above the map with quake guy
some asshole was railgunning me up there
>>174882045
encountered several out of bounds exploits. bug reported them all. bug reported a daily challenge not functioning correctly. bug reported two typos. bug reported some weird Clutch ability interactions with other character's abilities that I wasn't sure if were actually a bug or not
you know, hoping to push some feedback in a closed beta
>>174882327
>giving feedback in a closed beta
what are you a homo or somethin'?
>>174882468
kids so edgy this days
>>174882707
it's called a joke bruh
granpa's so uptight these days
>>174879225
>>174879412
Don't expect any HUD/comfort changes.
Last week the netcode was """fixed""", but it wasn't.
Stuff on the table
>3rd gamemode
>Galena's 45 degree hitbox bug
>Teleporters not functioning in certain cases
>Non-existent vertical splash on the Rocket Launcher (jumping over rockets)
>>174882045
Make a post on the official forums.
>>174882045
i dont think that's a glitch
>>174765190
>not memorizing timings
>>174811776
Honestly I think qw movement is funner to use than cpma, and I'm a reflex player.
>>174882045
It's intentional, there's a health globe and rocket launcher up there.
>>174883275
whathats the 45 degree bug?
>>174879024
Ctf or duel or simple training mode.
Homogenize hitboxes and champion sizes a bit.
Zoom damage should not exist.
>>174886775
>entire team goes quake-guy
>teleport up there
>just snipe everyone and run out the time
>>174774841
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxa-aYuBzvo
+ Foregone destruction and Skyward Fire are the 3 songs I listen while fragging.
i want to post some cringe but i dont want to get bampersand
>>174889634
if you censor the bottom text, killfeed, your IGN and text chat name, should be fine
>>174889708
nah, not QC stuff, i mean some actual cringe that's banworthy
>>174889859
post on /b/?
no ones stopping you, senpai
>>174887390
Seeing that quake guy is free and you can swap champions, this would not be a problem unless you didn't show yourselves going up there and hid there with a slight lead.
>>174889920
fairly certain linking stuff is still not the best idea but whatever
>>>/trash/8948981
>>174891570
>BFG2k
Sounds like shit.
>>174879024
lg nerfed slightly
small speed boost to tanks
no extra damage to scoped shots
scalebearer passive reworked to something that's not totally fucking useless
My big fear about Quake Champions is the probably lack of mod tools.
Community building maps is what gave Quake such a long lifespan, they need to be on the ball like Valve was with TF2 and add quality maps to the official game.
>>174892370
the original valve maps fucking sucked
>>174891324
You can only swap champions in the warmup start of the match
>>174892583
t. grumpydumpy
>>174892828
That's not true.
>>174892583
>gravelpit sucks
>granary sucks
>>174893131
Yes it is.
Source: me playing in all 3 beta's so far.
>>174892996
>>174893132
was about to write that gpit is good
not a huge fan of granary but it's alright i guess
>>174893132
tf2 sucks
>>174893260
>>174893554
Nothing in that picture shows that it is not the warmup phase
>>174893607
you can swap
because ive done it 50 times once i decided on playing a shit character like slash or clutch
had to switch back to anarki
>>174893715
I think you guys are mistaken, but maybe it is I, who isthe faggot.
Why would they allow you to swap champions?
That's pretty gay. They display all the champions when you first load into the que so you can choose to swap and counter the enemies choices I thought.
>>174893843
i'm 90% sure that there is a button above the respawn button that allows you to change champ and starting weapon
>>174893843
because it's not really competitive?
whenever you die and dont press m1m1m1m1m1m1m1m1 trying to respawn you can press that big fat brown button at the bottom and swap both weapons and champions
>>174893392
>>174894043
There's even a keybind for it that doesn't fucking work for whatever reason.
surveys are out boys
>>174895417
Neat. Remember to ask for Hunter.
>>174895417
>Neat. Remember to ignore the above poster and ask for Bones
>>174893607
Over 15 minutes trying to censor.
Lightworks is shit video editor.
>>174896000
TRIPS CONFIRM
>>174896067
Recording closed beta footage is against the law in over 43 countries. Lube up my friend, because you're in for a world of pain!
>>174896000
>>174896391
If they add Bones he better fucking say, "I've got a bone to pick with you," when respawning.
http://www.rigelatin.net/q3a/quotes/bones.php
>>174896391
>>174896892
> "I've got a bone to pick with you,"
kek
>>174896067
You really should not have gone through the effort of that. Thanks though.
>>174879991
its never dead on evenings (EU)
>>174898748
Yeah I'm in Cuntstralia though.
>>174899004
Then even turbo tuesdays wont save you. I mean you'll be able to play but its gonna be against the same people.
>>174897338
It's cool, trying to learn this new layout on Lightworks anyway because I plan on making videos when the game comes out.
>>174899804
Does the shield block against enemy melee?
>>174899804
FfpahahAhahahahhahhahahahaha
>>174900043
I don't think so, there's a small space between Clutch and the shield, so you can probably melee or shotgun him by going through it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D6eaOtosdw
>shows name in video
>>174900518
>calls everyone a noob
>is a noob
>>174900518
>video removed
>>174900518
I want to report him for sounding like a BR but I don't really care enough. More people that see and play Quake the better.
said upon spawning:
>Kicking a man while he's down? That's pretty low.
>I gotta find a slipgate out of this place.
>Slipgates are closed. Gotta find another way home.
>Sometimes the world doesn't need another hero, it needs a monster.
>Too painful to be a dream, too real to be a nightmare.
>Bastards. Why are you torturing me like this?
>This operation is falling apart.
>Surrender is not an option.
>Too much going on in my head. Can't focus.
>When you're 20 feet tall and throwing lightning, then you can face me.
>When you've been here this long, nothing and everything makes sense.
>Maybe my kingdom's finally come?
said upon kill:
>Making mama proud.
>They're gonna have a hard time peeling you off the wall.
>Stay down. You've disgraced yourself enough.
>Let go, you sons of bitches. (unsure)
>The operation is running smooth.
>You don't know what to shoot with it! (unsure)
>using dire orb:
>Coming at ya!
>In the air!
>Catch!
>Orb!
reply to this post if you caught anything else from ranger, I recored a lot of footage but majority of kill lines are just drowned out by the gunfire
>>174902329
>When you're 20 feet tall and throwing lightning, then you can face me.
This feels like it should be a kill line but I don't think it is, I hear it when I spawn sometimes. Definitely needs to be switched cause it doesn't make sense.
>>174902912
Yeah, my bad. It's a kill line.Best one at that.
>>174893994
There is.
new therad wen
bittermab with grappling hook ability when? No active or passive just a grappling hook weapon you can use on demand
>>174905629
Bitterman*
>>174905624
When this thread hits page 10 after bump limit.
>>174874261
Friendly reminder that this game has headshots so any hopes for Orbb goes right out the window
He's most likely chained up in Ruins of Sarnath forever
>>174905807
Headshots don't seem to do extra damage, they just show up when your last hit on a frag is a headshot with MG or Rail. Could be wrong.
>>174905807
I doubt they'd avoid making a hero with a bigger head just because it would give more headshot medals. They don't affect the game in any way.
>>174905629
wouldn't the hook be a passive if he could use it on demand?
GUESS WHO'S BACK TO DEAL A WHOPPIN LAST POST
>>174905807
Are you talking about when they say headshot? It doesn't do extra damage, it just says headshot cause you hit the head, it was in other quakes already.
>>174909227
I know it doesn't do anything, but it's weird if one character was immune to something
>>174909535
Literally what in the fuck are you talking about
>>174909535
>immune to literally nothing
Also Sorlag is immune to environmental acid damage, including opposing Sorlag ability damage.
>>174856910
I played nothing but the arena mode from around 2008-2010 or so. I had so much fun and felt awful when I went back to it around 2015 and found that arena mode completely died. You felt like a god when your entire team was dead and you pulled off a solo win.
lads, im too young to have played AFPS games in their height in the 90s but i just picked up toxikk and its amazing
why arent these games more popular? i havent been this captivated by a game in years