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/tosg/ - Tree of Savior General

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>Future Improvements: Chat UI and Trade Policies/Auto Match, EXP Tomes and More
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=903
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=905

>Plans for Combat System Changes (the great rework coming early summer according to IMC)
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=920
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=934
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okFGAS_Y6Is [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhJP5wJPa0o [Embed]

>Combat rework spreadsheet (informations from kTest)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1w96wEplRalplgC4f0TTyiYqXNZfIVZopUbTNFUX_be8/edit#gid=0

>Latest "Patch Notes":
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=936

>Events:
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=925
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=914
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=913

>Can I play the game now?
International version available on Steam RIGHT NOW. The Korean and Japanese servers are non-steam (Nexon)

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>Addon Manager (includes jTOS and iTOS addons)
https://github.com/JTosAddon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager/releases

>Database, skill planner and other stuff
https://tos.neet.tv/

>Extra Stat Points
http://pastebin.com/6Y3R7aYt


>Servers
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA) Fedimian(EU) Silute(SA) Telsiai(SEA)

>/tosg/ Guilds info:
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Orsha, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a Templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.

>Klaipeda
Futureproof (ApplyAFineHorse3)
cute (Merigolds)

>Telsiai
Comfy (neshoi)

>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)

>Silute
Lewd (Nanaumi)
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/bullies/
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Finally about to rank up to Plague Doctor C2, this is my final build and rotation, is pic related also how other Diev/Miko/PD play the game?

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#411777iee.1a3a5565.2a3a5a6a75.1121354454.152a345675
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Why is the game stuttering so much after this last patch? Is it just here?
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Is cute EVEN alive at this point?
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>>174455148
I saw a cute an hour ago.
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Is this a good price?
Literally none on the market that I've seen
It's best in slot offhand for archers,corsair and extremely good for SR I guess

Klaipedo
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>>174455061
>step #2
>use 8 skills before Clap so DM runs out
Amazing plan anon.

Fade > CD statue > Safety if needed > Tree > DM > Clap > run your face on your damaging skills keybindings
You NEED DM for Clap and really want it for Incineration and BDS.
Only use Sweeping before Aursine, or Owls if you don't need Aus.

Also
>no cure
This is a joke right?
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>fucking with the OP guilds again
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>>174455524
Overpriced compared to other ones I've seen but sell it for whatever you want, almost nobody is shooting for orange recipes now so the bee fags can pony up or piss off.
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If you guys miss linking to a new thread until the last one days this general is officially dead and should not be remade anymore.

This is your last chance.
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>>174455967
Don't worry I'll keep making the threads then
I don't know what happened to the other threadmakers but I don't mind the little bit extra work

I'll also include or exclude anything I'll deem fit, provided a good reason exists

such as removing/adding guilds from and to the OP
adding/removing links etc etc
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>>174453213
>10 mil tax
>up to 7.5mil in fees
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>>174455692
>>use 8 skills before Clap so DM runs out
More like 5, clap doesn´t affect sweeping or divine might

>You NEED DM for Clap and really want it for Incineration and BDS.
Not necesarily NEED, an extra 5 seconds is nice, and most everything will be dead with maxed Incineration and black steam, maybe movie world tree, owls, zemia and lamia before divine might, that way you get lvl 7 Ausrine, lvl 7 Clap, and lvl 6 steam, lvl 7 pandemic, lvl 11 insinerate?

>if you don't need Aus.
Who doesn´t need Ausrine? Why would anyone give away basically a minute worth of invincibility?
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>>174456368
Remove coffehouse from the OP because capyba seems kinda like a mean person
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>>174456452
This is why I hate the fucking market, it encourages excessive undercutting and prevents items from reaching their actual value in cases of inflation since the seller has to eat a tax.
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>>174454781
Did they ever fix the stupid head-glitch while moving where it looks like your head faces south as you run around or fight? Pretty much made me not bother playing this.
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>>174456452
That guy has to be insanely rich to just throw 10m into posting fees just like that.

Must be a necrofarmer.
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>>174456458
>>More like 5
>Sweeping
>Tree
>Aus
>Zemyna
>Laima
>Owls x2

>lvl 7 Clap
Not affected by Sweeping

>Who doesn´t need Ausrine?
Do you need Aus for every damn mob you kill?

You're also using the skill that gives you -20% CD in the middle of your rotation, that makes no fucking sense.
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>>174456970
>>174456452

The commission fee for 7 days its 2.5% of the selling price
for 1 day its just 1%

All citizen must pay taxes
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>>174455967
True, we had no general for some 10 minutes. Ded game and general.
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>>174456693
What's the actual value of an item? If you can sell it for 1mil, why not try for 2? If that takes, try for 3. Nothing has to inflate and suddenly you're pricing it related to that. people just get greedier and greedier until it stops working.
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>>174456808
Play with the keyboard and not a controller or stick to your consoles.
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>>174455061
lol
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>>174457391
The market fees artificially stop me, I can't continuously offer my item at what I feel it's worth because it'll just drain money through tax. As a result I just hoard my items that are valuable but low demand due to difficulty to use like orange recipes.
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Don't roll LinkerThaumaFF to farm
Roll Corsair
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>>174455061
>0 cure
>0 carve
>4/5 clap
I hope you have a skill reset somewhere
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>>174457803
Carve is useless desu
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>>174457945
>5 * 3 multihit
>ever useless
Have fun auto attacking eggs in ET
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>>174457525
It happened with both, and how I play a simple mmo with 4 buttons doesn't matter you autistic cunt. I asked a simple question, if you can't give a simple answer then go fuck yourself.
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>>174455692
>>174456998
Better?
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Hey /tosg/ 2 cleric 2 div monk it's a mistake? should I reset for 2 prist? There is a class reset?
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>>174458161
I'd still SZ after Laima
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>>174458185
Its fine
Monk is a standalone class anyways
Priest usually helps more from monstrace but its not really a requirement
There is no class resets currently but a big event that will overhaul the game will give you the opportunity to reset sometime in summer
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>>174458282
Thats what I meant I just got the two icons mixed up
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>>174455061
>writing down a rotation for Tree of Babies
wew
if you mash your face against your keyboard repeatedly you get the same results
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>>174458592
Not everyone is a doppelnigger, kiddo.
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Is Kagura dance actually useful? Never seen anyone use it.
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>>174458984
It's OP as fuck if used properly.
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>>174459076
Is there a video or anything? I would like to see 4 doppelniggers and a miko party
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Why is portium so expensive compared to the other crystal mines mats?
Any other place to get those or why?
I keep getting portium desu
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>>174458984
It's the most broken skill in the game, but only used for endgame pve.
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>>174459235
It seems to drop slightly less than others.
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>>174455061

this is hella funny to just look at
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>>174458339
Thanks senpai
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1134449ff.23334455.14213545.1f283f516571.153555.1a2a314455

Cookie-cutter HOPGOON. would you change anything or this is fine?
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>>174456808
>>174458094
The exorcist head bug? Less than before but it still happens.
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>>174428238
oh late, but that is korean tos
we get that soon*tm
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I wonder what kind of skills will PD receive in C3. It already has a lot, maybe they will just give it one.
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>>174461026
i'd remove pelt for sword 2 just for more pain barrier
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Someone post the image with all the class icons
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>>174461216
Ew, how does a bug like this last well over a year after release?

Welp, gonna skip this then.
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>>174461742
Don't.
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>>174462019
Pelt is pretty useless anon, pain barrier stops you from getting knocked on your ass
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>>174462437
>the best by far pull in the game is useless
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>>174462556
>needing to pull when aggro quests exist
>grinding anything other than alemeth
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>>174462745
>needing to pull when aggro quests exist
Aggro quests are shit and this game has an aggro cap, which can only b raised by, guess what, Swashbuckling.
>grinding anything other than alemeth
Because you'll never do dungeons or play with a party right or even farm mobs for yourself right?

Pelt gives you:
>The best pull in the game
>+25% Hp
>+17% defense
>+18% evasion

Meanwhile sword2:
>+5 (five) seconds on Pain barrier
>some hardly noticeable damage increase on Concentrate and Gung Ho
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>>174463204
Hey man it's your build, if you want to be knocked on your ass more often then go for it. You'll find yourself barely using Swashbuckling towards the end of it. I certainly don't have much use for it in my fencer anymore.
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Is this the best PVP class in the entire game?
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>>174463438
Just get a Meltsis slut.
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>>174463524
Haha funny stuff for sure

But I dont see any of this on it
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Why aren't you playing Wugushi, anon?
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>>174463524
Your blunt bonuses will be shit after the rebalance.
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>>174464206
Try harder
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>>174463524
> not windmill murnobi
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>>174463524
I'm actually considering going Sword3>Rodel3>Corsair>Murmillo due to the rebalancing patch. Swordie don't get helmet buffs or taunt like peltasta but I feel like PBarrier + Restrain are already good, putting the new Pommel Beat it might actually deal quite a hefty amount of damage with it.
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>>174464324
>not sword 3
>pvp
kys
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>>174465786

>sword 3
>on tree of +90 SPR bracelets

Pain barrier os overrated
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>>174465956
restrain dumbo
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>>174461945
>>174457525
>>174458094
>>174461216

Lies. It's not happening to me anymore when I use my PS4 Controller.
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Come on, Kim. Give us the ktest patch.
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>>174466294
Wait warmly deer Savior!
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>>174466075

exactly, retard. restrain does literally nothing on 2x +90 spr rings+max petamion+30 spr new pants
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>>174466854
I never seen any person wear those
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was the vienaazis mace really nerfed?
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>>174468853

In ktest it's inferior to rods for magic attack.
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>>174468983

Really inferior? I mean, inferior to 270 rods or 315 with only one slot? The raw int bonus was gone? 111 int seems massive on the new formula
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>>174469073
No it's still extremely good if you dont plan to transcend it for magic damage

https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/items/203204
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>>174469073

It has like 200 less magic attack than the 315 purple rod and the purple rod still has a good chunk of int on it (was it like 60?).

111 int is like 270 magic attack with the new formula (despite stats being reworked, they're still kind of shit and make up a tiny fraction of your damage).
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still ugly ass mace
cute Rod all the way
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Will anyone even use maces post rework besides Chaplain, Druid, and Inquisitor? Those are pretty much the only "hybrid" classes the game even has that I can think of.
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>>174469252
>>174469286

yeah my interest is to keep a deluxy five hammer for alts not worth transcending...

analyzing both stats...


widia post changes:
https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/items/143120

1062 raw matk
60 int (how much matk is this now? 130?)
60 spr
13 m.amp

=~1200?

mace:
860 raw matk
111 int
+/- 244 matk (min max)

=~1374?

Also, does squire buff give matk to maces now?
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>>174470506
1 INT = 2 m.att
and 7 m.att all 10 Points (like 5 extra m.att)

120 + 30 ?
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>>174470506

60 int is 162 magic attack.

Also you got to remember, SPR will be important now since abilities actually use SP and for a wizard 60 SPR is like 600 SP (for a cleric it's 480ish).
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>>174470763
SPR/SP is not bad but not really needed on gear, at high lvl for Wiz. its just a tiny bonus
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>>174470506
Yes squire will also buff matk now
Like I said its still extremely good but less so if you plan on transcending it

I would still transcend it if they made those tradable but I dont see it happen
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>>174471331

That's okay, I'll keep it.

but.. what if those new 315 weapon fro mhg (even one slot ones) becomes better than the mace (like, just give one bad 1 slot for each of your mage alts and stage 2 it (cheaper thant a lv 7 gem+socketingprice)...
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>>174471446
Sure they may be
But we dont know how hard/easy it will be to farm them how high or low the supply of those will be

If you order on ktest by date created you can take a look at them

https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/items?type=Mace&order=cdated&f=1

But they have varying degrees of rarity and power
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>>174456808
It's an AMD bug, afaik. Zoomy plus fixes it if you change the X position. I personally change it by 1 since it starts bugging out if you turn it too much.
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>>174471446
Blue/Purple 315 HG will probably be pretty slow/hard to drop. Dont bet on getting many of them.
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How many times has everyone done the cherry blossom event? I'm at 110 now with no interesting drops besides dawn crystals.
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>>174471929
0
>I'm at 110 now with no interesting drops besides dawn crystals.
hehe
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>>174471929
I only do it on low levels from free exp
Dont expect anything
ANYTHING from it
has probably a 0.000000000000000^10 chance of getting a battle bracelet
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>>174466854
SPR doesn't help resist shit after rebalance.
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Just a reminder, this update will fuck up stats worse than they are right now. The ONLY thing it'll fix is the difference between a person with shit gear and a whale will be smaller.

If you need a comparison, right now 329 Str or Int gives about 730 damage (329 is the amount you get purely from levels).
After the update you get 817 attack from 329 Str, or 881 magic attack from int.

However, weapons have basically gotten 4x damage.
A +15 stage 10 level 315 purple sword right now gives 4166 to 4816 damage. After this update the same sword 5427 to 5748 damage.
You'd also get 1 + your level bonus damage to attack and magic attack.
Which means if all variables are the same, a person before this update has 5231 to 5881 damage. Of this his stats make up 19% of the damage if you average the damage range.
After this update the same person would have 6579 to 6900 damage. Oh this his stats make up 17% of the damage, again with averaged damage spread.

The difference is bigger for better weapons (315 orange/solmiki gear).

Literally the only thing this update is doing is making the difference between a brand new weapon and a fully upgraded one smaller, and it's nerfing dex.

Also if not for percentage defence (and basically no crits), after this update your damage would be fucking astronomically higher.
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>>174472851
That's pretty much what the update is supposed to fix yeah, not sure what your problem is with it exactly.
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>>174472851
2% less?

Alrighty, im uninstalling right now as i type this.
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>>174473152

The developers said they were making stats useful.

All they did was nerf dex while str, int and spr are still useless. The only viable build now is full con since weapons provide a fuck ton more damage and you don't need int as a Wizard against high magic defence enemies anymore.
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>>174473264
You also dont need CON.
(except minigames, but con meta there like forever)
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>>174472851
>>174473264

You disregard that all skills are scaling now so the final damage from stats is multiplied too and has much greater effects depending on the skills used
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>>174472851
The whole point of buffing weapon damage is to to be able to introduce log scaling and remove skill damage, of course weapon stats need to be higher now that defense is actually a thing.
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>>174473373

You don't need other stats. Con at least provides Hp which anyone can use.

Your choices are pump a damage stat and deal almost no extra damage, or pump con and get a shitload more hp (30k for swordsmen, 19.5k for wizards, archer/cleric are inbetween).

>>174473534

This applies to weapons too. Your total damage is being multiplied, not just the damage from your str/int. When you got a weapon with 5k+ damage you don't need the extra 800 pumping str/int will provide you.
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>>174473690
>you dont need extra 800 on skills that have 2000%+ multipliers
You are certifiably retarded
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>>174473574

Except their math is shit. Almost nothing has changed. Stats are still useless and the only viable build will be full con (especially since now you cannot reduce damage taken to 1).
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>>174473690
>our choices are pump a damage stat and deal almost no extra damage
play the game
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>>174473775

>2000% multiplier
>Weapon provides 100k damage
>Stats provide 16k

Wow, what a huge difference that makes. A whopping 16% more damage.

You also got to remember, this is assuming you put every single stat point you get into str or int.
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>>174473948
>Wow, what a huge difference that makes. A whopping 16% more damage.
that is pretty good

>You also got to remember, this is assuming you put every single stat point you get into str or int.
Good too (for pve)
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something tell me that pvp will still be full con. the only change is that even archers and swordies will roll full con, maybe with a minimal str just to ensure hitting
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>>174474016

>that is pretty good

Or you could dump all of your points into con, double your hp and live long enough to deal twice as much damage.
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Is bokordoctor still good with the new combat system? i loved my bokor before i left the game
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>>174473948
I mean you realize you're talking about
Stage 10 +15 weapons
Normal people are not achieving this
I haven't even seen a stage 10 weapon on Klaipedia, i'm sure there are people but most people are not

Your scenario is just shit because it goes to the maximum possible length of making the stats look shit
Not everyone here plays the game 24/7 and will have stage 10 weapons to rely on their damage for full con

Alot of people will probably see a 30-40% increase in damage from going dps stats over fucking CON
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>>174473948
>>174474140
ppl grind/pay a fuck lot for a lot less then 16% dps increase

>>174474140
>dying

stop trying to force your full CON meme. it will not be meta
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>>174473790
Go ahead and try full CON in the test server. It's as shit as any other stat build, you get like half max health of what you used to and you won't ever block anything unless you're a shield class that can press C or a priest with stone skin, in which case you can block just as well with or without going full CON.
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>>174474206

Half the people in the game have stage 10 +15 weapons now, and after this update it becomes easier and cheaper to obtain this.

>>174474226

You will be taking damage now. You can no longer stack defence and be walking around taking 1 damage from everything.

I was also testing out Priests Aspersion. 52% bonus defence works out to be like 1-5% less damage taken per hit.
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>>174474451
>You will be taking damage now. You can no longer stack defence and be walking around taking 1 damage from everything.
Yes and?
You will not instantly die because you take over 1 dmg. And you will not take 10k+ (or very rarely).
Full INT does fine in ktest.
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>>174474393

Swordsmen get like 9990 Hp per 100 con. Wizards get about 6500. I'd rather have that than 250 bonus damage.
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>>174474206

anon...

defense was nerfed for pvp (no more 1 damage)
all weapons got buffed. while transcendence was nerfed, sure, but defense was too so we'll do averagely the same damage (besides the new skill mobs, of course) with a stage 3 +10 weapon (that will be the cheap stuff people will roll now).
My wizard needs squire buff + animus with 5 hp regen switches to snapshot + stage 5 weapon+chapparition pop to kill a 25k hp full dex hunter because of muh mdef, removing mdef will favor intless builds even more and removing mdef will mean con is a even stronger EHP now that people will have a harder time mitigating damage.
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>>174474451
>Half the people in the game have stage 10 +15 weapons now, and after this update it becomes easier and cheaper to obtain this.
That is both bullshit.
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>>174474558
Why? The only hp that matters is your last one, all that extra hp doesn't mean shit.
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>autistic doomposter foaming from his mouth spouting dumb shit again

>>174474618
My friend, not everyone cares for pvp
And anyone who do will have a good amount of con in it
That does not mean other stats are useless
You can distribute it however you like
I'm sure SRs will not go full con in PvP and still rape your ass if you dont have missilehole/ausrine
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>>174474618
Hahaha we can fix muh pvp later my god we're fixing the actual game first.
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>>174474538

And full con would be better. You guys don't seem to understand defence is a percentage reduction now. If you're reducing damage by 50% through defence alone, then each point of con is giving you twice as much effective health.
Meanwhile if the enemy has 50% damage reduction, each point of str/int you get has essentially been reduced to half effectiveness.

Stats in general will all be nerfed after this patch, but con will be the most effective stat to pump. Not sure why people can't understand this.
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>>174474864
Why it it better. I dont need it and i like more dmg.. because i play a dmg char.
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I have never played a game in which the pvp mode didnt focus entirely around getting as tanky as possible

If you however go full con on your pve char/farming char you're dumb as shit
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>>174474864
>con is affected by % reduction defense
>str/int is also affected by % scaling on skills
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>>174474864
What do you not understand about "extra 12k hp does nothing if you don't take 12k damage before being healed to full?"
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Guys guys, calm down and lets follow this guys orders. His mixman autism spreadsheets say con is a few % better.
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>>174475217
He's just an autistic little goblin shivering in fear of how half the servers population will rape his little ass in TBL with their stage 10 + 15 weapons while also being immortal full con gods
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Con will be the new best stat. The reason is simple.
Each point of con you get makes your defence more effective, and each point of defence you get makes your con more effective.

This same logic does not apply to any other stat in the game. Each point of str does not make your weapons attack any better, nor does your weapons attack make your str more effective. They both add to the same stat.

It's the same reason why Dex is currently so good. It's two stats that work together and multiply the effectiveness of each other. Dex makes weapon damage better and weapon damage makes Dex better.

>>174475206

And scaling on skills is affected by % reduction defence. You conveniently forgot to include that part.
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>>174475393
Con already does that you silly billy and people still go damage stats in PvE. EHP being a multiplier of HP and defenses is basic math as hell.
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>>174475393
>Con will be the new best stat.
And like nobody will use it in PvE.
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>>174475524

Right now defence is not a multiplier of Hp though. It's a flat reduction in damage and once you surpass the damage anything can deal (which isn't even hard) you don't need con. If nothing can damage you why the fuck would you need to stack con for hp?

Con is used only in PVP now because it's the only place in the game you cannot stack enough defence to reduce damage to 1.

Con will be used by everyone after this update because you will not be able to reduce any damage to 1.
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>>174475782
You won't need it in pve, do you not understand??
The log defense also applies to monsters attacking you and shit won't oneshot you anymore like it used to
Good defensive gear will allow you to add that 20% more damage to your skills
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>>174475782
>Con will be used by everyone after this update because you will not be able to reduce any damage to 1.
True, because there is no items or skills to recover HP.
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>>174475915

And why can't you understand you'll be taking a lot of damage now regardless of how good your defence is?
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>>174476041
You do not.
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>>174476041
As long as its not destroying me, which it won't,
I don't care because I'll have someone to heal me or use potions

You're a stubborn and autistic retard that wants to be right when everyone tells him he's wrong
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DB5v5XC1JE
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>>174476252
barb confirmed new pvp cancer

even full con stacking autists won't survive that multiplier
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>>174476252
shouldn't he have more HP with the new meta full CON build*tm?
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>>174476341
>giant swing
>pvp
hahahahaha good one anon
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>>174476189

>As long as its not destroying me, which it won't,

That's what you think. But if you want to take 100 potions with you everytime you to do anything then be my guest.
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>>174476485
I was merely joking
Swordies will never be meta, I already have my build planned out for the coming pvp meta right here
>>174463890


>>174476497
So what you're saying is that full con can save me on potions
Gotcha senpai, i'll think about that when planning my pve stats then
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>>174476497
>Everyone can afford +15 Stage10 Weapons but is to poor for Potions
i know right, buddy
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>>174476252
>hits a lanky cleric with x7fold
Not even full CON will save you from that.
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>>174476752

Anon... Upgrading is being made cheap as fuck and you're not going to need as many gems to transcend a weapon anymore.

I think getting a weapon to +4 right now will be more expensive than getting one to +10 after the update.
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Retards, you'll need to roll a good chunk of con or give up a lot of dps gear to survive now on pve solo, unless you have a cleric 24/7 healing your ass you'll have a severe downtime regenerating and your capacity to pull massive waves of mobs is also tied to your survivability now and con helps on this.

So what' you want to do? Go 0 con + full plate set or 30-50 con and be able to use your proper crit rate leather set when soloing?

Also, clerics even more gods. They need to tone down the last dps rank clerics have for good. Remember when cleric was the only possible tree to do proper rank 8 content before the def/mdef+gem buff?

Or they force full party play or make the game "easier" for people to solo.
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>>174476837
>Upgrading is being made cheap as fuck
+15 will still cost much

>and you're not going to need as many gems to transcend a weapon anymore.
True, you need more.
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>>174476837
But Mia already showed us that you need MORE gems for each stage than before
Do you even play the thread ktest secret info game?
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>>174476875
See that's completely fine with me
But this guy is advocating that full con is completely superior at all stages of the game

It's going to be nice, stats will be balanced and you will have to adapt depending on gear,funding,purpose of the character instead of just going full dex, full int or full con
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>>174476875
30-50 CON does like nothing.

Base HP was increased.

NPC and Alchemist pots do not have separate cooldown and you can use both.

Full dmg stat is still ok.
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>>174476875
Cleric damage was absolutely gutted my dude and even now wizards and archers farm DPK items faster and outdps them in Solmiki/WB.
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>>174477241
>do NOW have separate cooldown
ops

and:
Potions have been buffed.
New better Potions added to NPCs.
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>>174477241
>>174477353
This.

I do fine without any CON at ktest and only NPC pots (there are like no alchemists).
With tons of cheap pots on k/iTOS its gonna be overheal only with pots.
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>>174477353

They got made 20% stronger and the healing on them was changed to 50% on use and 50% over time (was previously 30% on use and 70% over time).

You're going to be lugging around a shit load of potions now though without a pocket Cleric.
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>>174476485
Barbsair will be meta.
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>>174474393
Has block been nerfed that much?
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>>174477664
But i have a few +15 Stage10 weapons, because everyone has them. I can probably buy potions too.

I also have my own Alche soon.

Not like full con makes me use (much) less pots
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>>174478304
Yes but so did block penetration
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Alive!
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Will Priest 3 be relevant with the Krivis nerf>
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>>174478474
You mean Krivis buff?
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>>174478513
Nope.
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>>174478474
Current blessing is stupid strong.
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>>174472851
You could've shortened it like this:

>All skill damage is 0.
>Weapons gain 2000 more base damage.
>Dex nerfed.
>Defenses nerfed.
>"Scaling" aka. big nerfs to most classes.
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>>174473775
>800 damge
>2000%
that's still only 16k damage more on a skill that most likely already hit the 199k cap

any skill that has 2000% scaling won't benefit at all from 800 more base damage and even if it's multi-hit it's still minimal
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>>174454781
Which server is the most populated in korean version?
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>>174479095
>Defenses nerfed
Quite the opposite. Now you won't get hit for close to 10k by solmiki mobs and depend on immunities to do anything.
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>>174478513
>losing the ability to contribute 80% more damage to 4 others in your party as well as losing 100% uptime invincibility is a buff
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>>174479495
probably Vakarine (bottom of the 2). we used to play there back then.
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2111bbbff.13213f45516a7585.1e3f415a85.11283a4a51

is this okay for warlock 2? PoA 1, Mastema 10.
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someone said
>Briquetting: Select Appearance
does not consume Potential

is that true?
can you do that multiple times?
can the skin item have 0 Potential?
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>>174479910
Ask the Alchemist mafia
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>>174479852
looks good.

Elem isnt great now tho.
and Wiz3 is crap later.
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>>174479236
>199k cap
found the shitter who doesn't play ktest and keeps talking out his ass
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Oh boy, here we go!
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Will sw3hop3 be good in the upcoming patch with full str?
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>>174479690
Even with the nerf, A krivis 3 is still better than a priest.
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>>174479721
Okay thanks
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>>174480698
I hope so that's what I'm resetting to. Sw3>Hop3>Dop>Lancer.
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Is it wrong to fap to goddess?
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>>174482426
nah youre in the clear
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>>174482426
They don't care.
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>>174482426
as long as its not my goddesswaifu
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>>174482426
You are morally obligated to show your devotion to the goddesses.
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>>174482913
This.

It is wrong if you not fap to your fav goddess.
You'r not a heretic, are you?
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Remember that you're all super special that's why you are here with me
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>>174483289
What are they gonna do, send the inquisition to rape the devotion outta me?
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What's the quickest way to level? Haven't played in a while and I'm at level 132. I still have a token I haven't used yet.
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>>174483672
Do some quests and merc missions so you get past the 136 exp reset. At level 140, you'll unlock the old lv130 dungeon and you'll be able to level up even faster. Lv170-200 is a bit slow, but you should be fine doing quests and mission/dungeon runs.
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>>174483672
Dungeons, missions, quests. In that order.
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>>174478448
I missed the shot.
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>>174483660
Yes. They'll restrain you on a chair and jerk you off while showing you lewd goddess art.
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>>174483960
>>174484003
Are there any monster grind spots in my region right now?
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>>174463524
>>174464528
Post yfw Lolipan continues being right about everything, long after being kileld.
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>>174483605
Great now that song is now stuck in my head.
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>>174484169
None that are anywhere near as fast as missions and dungeons.
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>>174484169
You dont or barely have to grind. At all. And should not under lvl 200.
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>>174484169
Well, you can ask a Warlock for power leveling at Demon Prison and there are the hunting grounds, one of the most relevant changes since you've left, but I wouldn't recommend it for leveling up. Mobs there are pretty tough and doesn't give you that much EXP. Just wait until you hit level 200 to start grinding at Alemeth Forest.
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>>174484281
Miracle, baby, I'm happy to be with you~
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What's the addon that tells you what stats hair accessories have?
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>>174480016

thanks. I have her at a high level already, pyro is boring so I'll just slap a viena mace on it and whatever, worst case scenario I'll have a invocation semi-bot
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What's the best filler class for Chaplain Inq post rebalance? Cleric 2 Chap Inq seems pretty set in stone but it leaves 1 rank open.
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Since we are getting free reset, which is better for Doppos High3 or Barb3 ?
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>>174486095
high3 for single target
barb3 for utility/aoe
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>>174486165
So basically if I want to go FULL KIRITO go with High3 and for party play Barb3?
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>>174486346
No, high3 is more for party because its single target meaning for bosses

Barb3 is more utility for solo with stuns and selfbuffs
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>go saalus
>canyon
>logout
>go saalus
>mausoleum
>logout

>make new account
>make necrofarmer
>earn 2m a day
>buy 10 shards each day
>no work
>no effort
>no alts

wow
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There is a list for the skill you can used mounted as a archer? I want a 2 archer, 2 ranger, 3 rogue 1 hacka
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bout to play this game for the first time. Any guilds or something that are recruiting, or friends to play with?
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>>174476341
>>174476464
>>174476825
ITT: people who have never played barb
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>>174486413
High3 it is then, thanks mate.
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>>174486414
Don't forget the free practonium box you get with a new account

Also what happened to the Grim reapers people were raving about? ;^)
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>>174486414
>necrofarmer

tell me a good build for that, I want that life.
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>>174456970
are you telling me you can just make a necromancer and bot and thats allowed?
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I'm new to swordsman. What are good Lancer builds? One that has Squire3.
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>>174486697

>free practonium

?????.

by free you meant ez leveling with 8x exp tomes to 317, right?
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>>174486842
( ) Good Lancer build
( ) Build with Squire3
Pick one.

Sw3Cata3Dopp1Lancer
Sw3Cata3Goon1Lancer
Sw2Hop2Cata3Lancer
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>>174486842
>What are good Lancer builds? One that has Squire3.
does not exist.

>>174486769
>are you telling me you can just make a necromancer
yes, for now
>and bot and thats allowed?
no

>>174486703
whatever>necro3
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>>174486961
I'm exaggerating but pretty much
You realize you can get to r7 in a day with how many resets and 8x tomes you get

You also get a free token for 2 weeks and are basically on perma 8x tome during any grind you decide to do
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>>174487016
>>174487108
I guess I pick the Lancer with good build. Seems all build have cata3 in common. Sw3Cata3Goon1Lancer vs Sw2Hop2Cata3Lancer which one is better for PvE?
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>>174487298
Lancer is a pvp only class
It sucks tremendous ass in pvp
Do not recommend
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>>174486842

Maybe Sword 1 -> Pelt 1 -> Hop 2 -> Squire 3 -> Lancer.

You'll level as a dex3:con1 memer half tank half dps (finestra makes up for the con points to help crit a bit) with a spear and a shield, taunting and tanking for your friends. At rank 8 you get lancer skill that packs quite a fucking punch and have synergy with hoplite (spear lunge + lancer combo is comparable to dragoon 2). main concern is: lancer skills are locked into two handed spears so you'll need to weapon switch to one handed spear + shield when taunting and switching to two handed to help dps if needed. it's a bit awkward at first but it's easy to do once you get used to it.

There's the option to go CATA c1 at rank 4 but you'll lose 50 crit com finestra and spear lunge in favor of a shitty earthwave and weak-ass lv 5 trot (that is basically the same as dashing but with a downtime) and since the character is not pvp focused, missing cata's attribute for block pen is not a big deal.
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>>174487376
>Lancer is a pvp only class
>It sucks tremendous ass in pvp
PvP class that sucks at what its supposed to do? What's the fucking point then?

>>174487410
Well since I kinda just wanted the squire3 utilities so maybe I'll just go with meme build.
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>>174487682

God, after writing about it I'm almost felling for the squire mem, top kek.

It's a good build for level, can do good part of the rank 8 content with budget gear... you'll have fun. Better than SUICIDE MODE FULL CON PELT 3 SQUIRE retards.
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>>174487682
Was supposed to say pve woopsie
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>>174487848
for which one, anon?
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>>174488036
Come on, just put two and two together
>Lancer is a pvp class
>It sucks tremendous ass in ????
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>>174487108
I mean, necromancer can summon beings that will just keep killing until they die so you basically can afk farm endlessly?
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>>174488117
>lancer is a pve class
>it sucks tremendous ass in pvp

>lancer is a pvp class
>it sucks tremendous ass in pve

it could be either
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>>174488147
you can and many people do that. the good spawns are full of afk necros.

that could be changed/destroyed in a future patch tho
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>>174488147
Yes that's whats currently happening right now and has been happening since the day that people reached r7 on necro
Some have amassed silver amounts of up to 400m on single chars
tons and tons of others have made hundreds of millions too and basically ruined the economy for a while

The best thing is this will soon be fixed to a certain degree and the inflation will be much less severe
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>>174488260
You asked which one is better for pve and I said I do not recommend
P L S
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Lancer don't suck as in pvp, what the fuck are you guys smocking

just because cleric 2 diev 3 oracle kabba inq is SSS it doesn't mean we don't have a few decent A tier builds, and lancer is one of those.
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>>174486521
Futureproof is recruiting. Send ApplyAFineHorse3 a message or a friend request if offline.

I just got back from traveling and saw the request from the other day, so I'll follow up when they're back on.
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>>174488540
>Lancer don't suck as in pvp, what the fuck are you guys smocking
nobody said that. its a pvp class and sux in pve.
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>Mr.Kim will give us free reset
>My shitty/outdated alts can be saved
Thanks Mr.Kim I'll surely buy more TP!
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>>174488576
This guy did >>174487376 and started the whole confusion
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>>174488830
>Mr.Kim gives everyone free 8x tomes
>makes everyone addicted to tomes
What a genius
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>>174488965
>>174487848
and he made a typo
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>>174488576

It doesn't really sux at pve desu. If you went Hop 2 version.

Hop3doppelgoon is better but hop2cata3lancer vs cata3dragoon2 is kinda similar. spear lunge crush quintain quintain J O U S T is similar to serpentine tooth dethrone dethrone. Both rushes will do ok because mr kim overbuffed rush to nearly cyclone 15 levels (lacking only the deeds...), but if the goon2 decides to bump his rush with serpentine's debuff, the rest of the rotation will be weaken by the lack of it and tooth/soar sux so much in comparison to fencer or even spear throw

I'll only give it to you because of the supportive part of serpentine FOR THE OTHERS and the fact that a real pvp lancer should go sw3-corsair so no room for hop 2 memes
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>>174488574
That's me. Busy, so I can't log in till the weekend!
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Is Krivis3 Taoist still going to be a viable build? I just want to call down lightning bolts on niggers.
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>>174489402
Its going to be really good because you can extend your chappas with melstis and and run around casting shit
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>>174489460

>krivis 3 priest 3 chaplain
>pop chappa melstis
>kill shit with the new 9000 blessing AND infinite lasting 909023 matk aspegillium
>>
TIKTOK KLAIKEKS, TIK TOK
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>>174489668
>+9000 blessing
>Zaibas also doing damage of its own

PICK ONE
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>>174489668
>krivis3diev3
>walk into arena
>give everyone immunity
>but with double duration
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@174489685
go back to bed C*lnigga
>>
Do you need your own alch to exploit brinquetting skin change or is it possible to get it from someone else?
>>
Everyone can come to Silute! Portuguese is a very hard language but not a impossible one.

Hello = Oi.
Thanks = Obrigado.
You're cute = Você é bonitinho (for male) or bonitinha (for female).
I love you = Eu te amo.
Kiss = Beijo.
KYSMM = Se mata, cara.
Buy talt = Compro talt
Sell talt = Vendo Talt

And in cause you meet someone from Argentina you just capslock and PELÉ > MARADONA. ARGENTINO PORCO.
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What happens if you have something like Full Spr Sadhu with Strong Will enchant, transfer pranah to give half your con to ally with con attribute, then remove your strong will equipment. Does your con go to zero or go below that somehow?
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>>174490183
Se mata, cara
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@174490183
Se mata, cara C*lnigga
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>>174490183
Shield = Panela
Lewd = putaria
Loli = novinha
channer = cara de broa
cuck = Izzy Nobre
>>
Is this game still shit? I know asking this in the game's general is usually pointless, but I can't remember if /tosg/ was blind to the game's faults or not.
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>>174490526
Its pretty shit but you can have fun
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>>174490585
Is monk good yet?
>>
>New scout skill
https://tos.neet.tv/skills/30607
>Considering class resetting to Mergen.

Also will full DEX or STR be better for my dungeon farmer Scout3Musk2.
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>>174490665
Not but it will be soon (summer maybe)
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>>174489976

you need to give the weapons for the alch (trade) so if you don't trust the alchemist...

unfortunately this skill lacks the menu option that awakening has (to ask for an awakening portal) that party members have
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>>174490674
>https://tos.neet.tv/skills/30607

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dmt45BF5SOM

I FUCKING LOVE THIS SONG
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do you miss out on anything if you only do klaipeda quests?
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>>174479910
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>>174491148

Lucy Wilde as a goddess and 3 or 6 stats points, not sure.
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>>174491148
not really, you can do some of these quests later.
a few stat points and goddess tiddies.
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>>174491148
The Orsha questlines have better stories a lot of the time and you need to do the Seir Rainforest/Zeraha questlines for stat points. But there's nothing mechanical other than that.
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>waiting for capri sun to spawn
>someone dies to regular mobs
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>>174491928
That's my face when hearing about someone waiting for cafrisun to spawn
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Are there any non-painful ways of going palapriest?
Also hows the game since I got a group of friends wanting me to join in?
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>>174491976
you remind me of myself then
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>>174492032
Depends on how much you want to go into Priest, Cleric 2 Priest 1 Paladin 3 Monk 1 Inquisitor as a dex build is pretty good.
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Is there any room for something like a high3hop2goon as a boss debuffer in any decent party setups you guys can think of?
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>>174492032

blessing + heal bomb alone nukes the fuck out of the game up to rank 6 npnp, easier than most builds. a few flying mobs here and there but you can just smite the fuckers later
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>>174492103
I was thinking a little overkill with Cleric 1, Priest 3, Paladin 3, Chaplain.
Then again I have no idea what I'm doing
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>>174492527

will be okay to do a strong pvm, but the debuff/armor def is not really necessary. the most relevant pierce DPS in the game is the Fencer, and they have Attaque Coquille for over 100% uptime def penetration so... Spear lunge and Serpentine is enough for the cutest dps in the game.

But...the skull swing helps the other shitters like doppels and yourself, plus highlander is very fun on it's own..but the lack of Cleave for the HL skills is something to consider, also the lack of spear throw for yours and pelts utility...

well, this build of your is surely fun and will steamroll the pve content if you have a decent gear but won't have much use in the end (will be a weaker farmar in comparison to the other, weaker bossing, weaker pvpmemer and etc)...
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>>174492657
Chaplain isn't really worth playing without Inquisitor, Paladin 3 does give you a little bit of synergy with Coniction+elemental hats giving you a damage boost but it's nothing compared to Malleus, Wheel, and spawning fires that also count as basic attacks.
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>>174492527
If you have friends that are doing worldboss with a strong phys dps then sure

Its not like people look for random people during worldbosses and take a look at their builds
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>>174492847
>>174493104
Thanks for the input, guys.
I guess I'll roll it. Worst thing that can happen is it sucks and I just change to something different during the upcoming event.
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>>174492979
I might be looking at the wrong class entirely but my goal is mostly tanking the world if that's even possible and paladin regen just seemed right for it.
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>>174493454
To be honest at the moment pretty much any class can tank to an absurd degree due to the way the defense system works, and the actual HP regen provided by restoration is mediocre; people use it mostly for the hidden boost it gives to healing tiles. There may be a way to combine Krivis's Aukuras with Paladin's Restoration if you want to do a gimmick build based around massive and fast hp regeneration ticks but I've never tried it.
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>>174479910
>>174491172
>is that true?
no
>can you do that multiple times?
yes
>can the skin item have 0 Potential?
I don't know.

It will also reroll your stats every time.
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>tfw no alchemist to trust with my windia rod
>tfw when the free class reset patch hit they might have fixed the bug..
feels badman
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So I'm preparing for a hot meme AA cleric build: Cleric>Priest3>Chap>Monk2>Inq but I'm not quite how to spread stats. 1:1 DEX:SPR or 1:1:1 DEX:SPR:STR?
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>>174493454
>>174493632
If you want SANIC fast regen wouldn't PD's Healing factor the best?
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>>174493850


windia rod is cute, anon
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>>174494328

why monk in the mix if you want to AA
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>>174494780
I don't like cute
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>>174494964
kys P*tsch
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>>174495071
i'll kill u first detective noname
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>>174494869
Because I don't know what else to put. Though it could be Druid2 too I guess.
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We need a plasxjane dōjinshi stat.
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>>174496642
why is that faggot hated so much?
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So Klaipeda dies today?
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>still cant trade
is this even a mmorpg
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>>174496857
Klai will never die.
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>>174497113
It's an autism simulator
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>>174497113
but you can
>>174497259
this too
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>>174497371
no i cant
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>>174497707
New accounts are not allowed to do anything sorry sir.
You're in a strict trial period basically.
To circumvent that I can suggest you to purchase TP on steam to the trial period of your account.
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>>174497707
then wait a few days
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>>174496786
The only people who hate him are literal whos who do nothing but camp dina bee farm and plasnazica who got mad at him for not having a stage 10 pract weapon and meme meta build, but since he commands the Third Reich which is 1/3rd of tosg obviously mixed with non-tosg randoms everyone is forced to avoid or show hostility towards 3j or else they get kicked from nazi germany I mean CNL.
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>>174498256
I'm neither of those and can confirm 3jane is a dumb fuck
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>>174498516
rude!
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>>174497197
But you are losing the jungle monkeys and the grandchildren of runaway nazi and italian fascist
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why is there no healmage x sawai tos doujinshi yet? I mean we got enough "artists" here that can draw
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>>174499670
Because you faggots are making /v/ look good in comparison to this board
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>>174499670
Because not everyone finds autistic japanese porno comics enjoyable
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>>174499670
I'm better off spending my time erping with both of them
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>>174493850
Is it transcended? If so, you wouldn't be able to do it anyway.
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>>174500262
Nah its not, but 50m item is alot to hand to another player to change its appearance
I'll just hold my thumbs in hope that they won't fix it in the big patch and I'll reset one of my chars to alche3
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>>174500416
Sorry you're such a pussy faggot concerned over valueless pixels.
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>>174500474
It has good amount of value for me though, just cuz your time is valueless doesn't mean everyones is
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>>174500642
Everyone's time is absolutely valueless if they're spending it on an MMORPG. Being a selfish autist who thinks everyone is out to rip him off is no way to play either.
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>>174501002
You're just projecting
My time has value and I enjoy playing this game enough to spend some time on it
I don't have much time in the day to play, maybe you do, I don't know nor care but I would never consider my time valueless
You're pathetic if you think of your own time like that
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>>174501002
t. an alchemist trying to get your windia
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>>174497806
>>174497930
>use event token
>still cant trade
literally worse than dot hack
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>>174501170
Your time, and even your existence, is valueless and pointless. Just because you think highly of it doesn't make it so.

>>174501212
I was originally going to offer to do it, but they seem like the kind of person who has problems trusting people and not worth bothering with. I couldn't give a single shit about his rod. I do wonder what sort of other rod they would turn it into.
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kTest have legendary items now?
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>>174501443
We assign our own values, sure everything objectively pointless and valueless but not from my point of view which is the only point of view that matters for me.

But enough of the philosophy wishwash
I think I know who you are since you already once transfused a weapon for me if that's you, and I initially considered whispering you, but refrained from doing so because in the end temptation might overcome you and you would have nothing to lose.

But since you're interested I was going to transfuse it into this item
https://tos.neet.tv/items/141130
And I will, if they do not fix the bug by the time we get the major class reset event
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Reminder that slow death is all that awaits this game
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>>174501643
What is even the point? Blue, purple, and red items are only vaguely defined as it is. Are they going to have super awakening bonuses or something?
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>>174502793
Reminder concurrent players =/= total players
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>It's another "Catagoon keeps dying to fencer in the exact same fucking way, but he doesn't know how to function any other way" episode
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>>174502793
...and from death we shall be reborn, do you not trust in Mr.Kim? We are finally getting out of beta!
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>>174501353
you need to be greater than character level 40 on the character you want to trade with. Same for megaphones and the market.
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>>174502793
Renewal will save us!
Returning players event too!
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https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/skills/40702

>yfw mr. kim hates monks
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SILUTE IS BACK ONLINE!
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>mfw advancing to pd2 in a fucking low lvl zone
good game tosgtards
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Hello guys, is this MMO fun?
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>>174505010
that depends
r u a girl?
>>
https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/items/633018

Ready to get married?
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>>174505184
Ready to get bullied?
https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/items/633008
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>yfw kim changes most 0 cd skills and give them 10 sec cooldown and overheat
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>yfw kim saves the game
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>>174505419
>yfw kim accidentally kills the game
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>zaibas up to 82% at all levels
>storm calling back to 772% base and 42% per level
Thunderlord saved
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>Frost Cloud cooldown increased to 45s
Elecucks back to being irrelevant
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>>174505361
>https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/items/633008
Das it mane
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>>174505768
>>
top lel mobs can have anviled and transcended equipment now

Why aren't you playing Appraiser anon?
>>
Oh man the panties on this one
https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/items/633010

>>174505941
explain
>>
Hello is this game good, I'm MMO seeking and this looked interesting
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>Dark Theurge 15 hits at all lvls
L U L
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>>174505979
Some monsters have new multipliers for stats: ReinforceWeapon, TranscendWeapon, ReinforceArmor, TranscendArmor

Only some raid bosses and ET mobs have it though.
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>>174506067
It's fun yet a bit buggy.
The devs are slow since the team is small but they are continually improving the game.

Main pro of the game is the highly varied class system and the impactful combat specially at higher levels when you unlock more and more skills to use.
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Cute sailor boy LF oneechan corsair 2 take him as first mate
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Did they nerf these events? I was passing by the Grynas map and it also had like almost no monsters even though there were 7 of us there. These used to be amazing EXP.
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https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=942
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>>174507180
>Q4. Can I only reset one of my characters each day? Or only once during the rank reset event?
>A4. During the reset event, you will be able to reset you rank, stats and skills one time per day, per character. This means that, during the event, you can reset all your characters on the same day if you wish, but to reset one or more of them again you will have to wait until the next day.

Finally clarity.
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>>174507078
It scales with the number of members in a party now. And probably also the number of players near the torch.
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>throw gu duration scales with skill level
>remove it

why tho
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>>174504721
>https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/skills/40702
>10s cd for double punch
God damn gooks.
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>>174507180
> I’m worried about players using the rank reset event to abuse the Varnalesa and Lettuce items, since they can just advance into a class that can get those items to purchase them in large quantities, then reset into their actual desired class.

Nobody is fucking worried about that, are they? Aren't varnalesca and stuff already tradable in KR now anyway?
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>>174507802
>>174504721
It has 5 Overheats. Lighten up.
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>>174507802
I know using more than one skill is gonna be hard to adapt to for you monk players but try to hang on.
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>>174504721
Kim is retarded, holy shit.
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>>174507802
>>174504721
It's the same for thrust
https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/skills/10001
Fencer skills too.
https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/skills/11107
https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/skills/11101

NazIMC.
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>>174508409
Balanced the fucked out nigga. This is not diablo
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>>174508485
It aught to be.
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>>174507439
They changed damage again.
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>>174508409
>DEX will increase some 0cd skills attack speed too!
>proceed to remove all 0cs skills
What the fuck
>>
So now that this is a "cycle through your skills and wait 15 minutes for cooldowns so you can cycle again" type game, what new game are you guys playing?
>>
new ktest patch notes:

http://tos.nexon.com/testserver/notice/view.aspx?n4ArticleSN=48
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>>174508409
Fencer is DED!
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Is Puppeteer a thing yet?
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>>174508871
Composee spam was dead already though, too high SP cost.
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>>174509329
It'd just be another shitty pet class anyway.
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>>174509431
But it's cool and I want it. What other pet classes are there?
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I always wanted a cooldown for composee desu.Main concern is this only pierce for epee garde. I hope they nerf it and force us to play around hl/barbarian combo builds again and leave sw 3 more for pvp focused
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Everything on the archer tree has 5 overheat and 10s CD, RIP.
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>>174509481
Hunter, necro, sorc, bokor, falconer, and probably pied piper and shepard when they come out.
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>>174508835
>Thauma Swell buffs are affected by SPR too
>More importantly swell head is ONLY SPR

Interesting, the fact Enchant Lightning and Fire were also changed to get influenced by SPR and INT makes me think a SPR thauma might actually be effective?

Unfortunate you can't get Thauma3+Linker3 with Enchanter, though.
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>>174508675
Are you the rumored guy who still salty about 30s CD until this day?
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>>174508675

>I have 8 ranks worth of classes and I can't think
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>made a fresh new miko diev
>like to do uphill for training how to properly totum
>offer free leeching in gchat
>two guys join
>once talking I realize one of them is not in guild
>how did he get in-
>oh
>his bee farmer is in the guild but not his squire alt
>brags how he has 2 mikos just to do uphill
>how he has bee farmer afk right as I'm carrying his ass
>other guild guy brings a 40+ level character
>mobs instantly go from 20 levels lower to "fire level"
>I still carry the damn thing to level 30 cos cleric balance
>realize I'm in the wrong guild
>mfw I wasted 150 talt in their tower without knowing
time to fly free again
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>Split Arrow
>- Overheat is changed to 5 .
>- The cooldown time is changed to 10 seconds .
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https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/skills/20103
So this shit gives like 400 fire damage and 1/10th of your attack more?
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- A legend rating is added.
- Legend-grade items are equivalent to Sol Mickey and Rollo Panther equipment that can be obtained from the Tower of the Earth, and some of the equipment options change.
- Legend-level items cost 5 times more reinforcement cost than normal items, so the increase is 2.5 times that of normal items. The amount of transcendental stones needed for transcendence is 40% higher than normal items.

>The amount of transcendental stones needed for transcendence is 40% higher than normal items.
>The amount of transcendental stones needed for transcendence is 40% higher than normal items.
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>>174509983
>I took a different class each rank and none of them were utility
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>>174510171
Fuck your proper end game. Saalus is your end game.
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>>174510171
Yeah fuck this game. Another whale only gear set that promotes RMT and Saalus still is the end game. This is begging for people to roll nothing but Necrofarmers.
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>that fucking ping

I'm feeling like Goku. And I played using VPN.
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Remind me what the point of fantasy library was again
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>>174510456
Time to take off weighted clothes.
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>>174510503
To make you not want to play this game anymore.
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Archer: ded
Monk: ded
Fencer: ded
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>>174510236
>>174510347
You will never have a Legendary item so who cares? I think it's great that everyone claims welfare legendaries are part of what killed WoW but in a game with legendaries that are actually rare people just start bitching it's too hard.
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>>174510834
Doppel: ded
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>>174510876
I wouldn't mind if equipment wasn't four times as important as stats.
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>>174510834

>fencer
>ded

5 composees and you can mix in lunge and esquiver toucher. those later spells were useless with this infinite composee spam, now they have a reason to exist. thrust can help fill in a bit. Epee garde still stronk
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>>174510948
But you don't need a legendary weapon to do any content, they are basically the equivalent of post game super weapons and we don't even know how much stronger they are.
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>>174510118
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpUpIHWwuY0

Oblique Shot and Heavy Shot - Archer
Crossfire and Barbed Arrow - Fletcher
>>
Reminder that this is a Korean grinding simulator and Koreans love RNG end game content that repeats itself forever with time sinks so huge that the only practical solution is real life money or giving into botting and cheating.
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>>174508409
>https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/skills/11101
This just means that Attaque Au Fer is the new composee
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>>174510210
This is unironically the way they are encouraging non-support builds to play

t. seniot patch analyst emeritus
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>>174511097
Reminder that westerners just want everything handed to them without effort and don't actually want to invest any amount of time into a game nowadays.
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>>174510876
>implying I don't have lolo gear and on my wy to build solmiki gear
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>>174510210

They strictly wanted to kill one dps skill + 9 buff/debuff/utility/infinite healing, anon
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Game isn't getting better guys, it's getting worse.
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>>174511615
So they want to kill builds entirely. How's that good? They should encourage building around single skills so people with the same classes could be different from each other for once.
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>>174511910

anon, please. You go highlander 3, barbarian 1 doppel 3 and enjoy both classes rotation instead of fucking cyclone alone
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Why is Jew an actual class in this game
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>>174512083
Because Jews can make magic.
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>>174512047
And what if I wanted to build around cartar stroke and crossguard punishes instead? They don't encourage that kind of thing at all. Everything will continue to be exactly the same. They might as well just by one of those types of games where you just learn every skill instead of having to balance points.

>>174512083
Don't you want your golems at circle 3?
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>>174512083
You can't hurt them but they'll hurt you much much more.
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Have the monk buffs hit yet? I feel relatively the same.
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>>174512278

Nope. Saying this only proves you don't know shit about you're talking. Skill levels are more relevant than ever now. Becuase the difference of Cartar Stroke lv 1 and LV 15 now is 187% *4 vs 106%.

https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/skill-planner#11222

Have fun yourself trying memebuilds with one skill. Are you handicapped, anon?
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>>174512278
>Don't you want your golems at circle 3?
Holy shit! I want to see that happen!
>>
Looks like Miko Hamaya went up to 193% at max level but only lasts 8 seconds now. Magnus exorcism similar. Blessing small nerf (0.9x spr), and now Aspersion and Pardoner increase mdef adds defense based on Spr.
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>>174512414
Yes, monk is great now.
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>>174512531
They reduced duration of most sustained skills and increased damage to make up for it.
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>>174512414
I've been Double Punching at the speed of Goku with 50k damage per hit.
Send a ticket to IMC say your game wasn't patched. Be sure to make it seem like you're angry so they'll fix your game quicker.
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Is it ok to take Beak Mask while losing one point in Pandemic? I just... want to wear it.
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>>174511673
>>
>Add scaling to a bunch of buffs
>Nerf base amount to compensate
>The scaling is so weak that without heavy as fuck stat investment the buffs are actually weaker now than they use to be

Enchant Lightning went from 500 flat damage to 400 flat damage plus like 100 if you got about 300 int or spr.

Same applies to most buffs now. It's basically a fucking nerf and means if you don't invest everything into one stat your buffs just got shit on.
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>>174515184

Except that 400 damage now is twice as relevant than that 500.

Shill, anon. mobs have 1/3 of the HP they used to have and skills have 0 base damage.
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>>174515360

It's actually not. The new damage formula adds elemental damage as a flat amount at the end of all calculations.

You're not getting 400 x 2000% extra damage. You're getting 2000% damage and then an additional 400 as a flat amount at the end.
>>
I'm not really inclined to play, knowing that things are going to change radically in game in a couple of months... But this event sounds good, what do? I never even reached the cap with my char, floating around 260ish and out of money for a token or attributes
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>>174515184
You could solo shit with the old Enchant Lighting in ktest.
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>>174515184
Who cares when Warlock 2 is in fact the best option for Elememe again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1lzqkdpYlM&feature=youtu.be
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>>174515439
Just do what you want and reroll with the event if need be.
>>
Arde dagger doesn't boost pyromancer spells, just adds fire damage to autoattacks, correct?
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>>174515429
>what are new def reductions

Elementa dmg is really strong now and you can get +1k with lighting/fire/sacrament and 1k+ Bless.
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>>174515579

>what are new def reductions

Not a lot because there are people out there easily hitting for 5-6k damage with normal attacks and dropping skills that are doing tens to hundreds of thousands of damage.

1k bonus damage that doesn't scale with anything if you stack 5 buffs aint shit.
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>>174515709
Play the game, they are a big thing.
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>>174515763

You play the fucking game retard.

1k damage when you're casually dropping 100k damage abilities is a whopping 1% bonus damage. And that's if you stack 4 different buffs. That's a fucking waste of buff slots.
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Stop lying that the Japanese version is alive.
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>>174515979
Play the game, go get a ktest account.
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>>174515979
>you're casually dropping 100k damage abilities
but you're not
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Happy Birthday Plasmagica
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Here are the new values for Wizard buffs.

This assumes you dump every point into int (doesn't include bonus points earned through statues or quests).

Not particularly impressive. Thaumaturge just lost a shit ton of damage and the two Enchants don't scale with skill damage anyway.
>>
>Team Skull
https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/items/490159
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>>174515572
Not only auto attacks, mind you

I think it add fire damage to everything
>>
Is petamion worth it? I've amassed enough money to buy the recipes for both petamion and max but I don't know if it's such a substantial upgrade over my strength pendant or if there is a better alternative later in the game
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>jurate will never drown you
>>
How good is the dg260 for exp? Not sure if i use my 8x tomos there or in missions.
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>>174517007
Save them for 290.
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When's this game going to get tanned skin options?
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>>174516668
There's no better alternative except maybe Agni for dps classes.
It's still not worth it imo.
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>>174517083
So where should i level up till 290?
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>>174516257
What's the bonus .1x you get though?
https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/skills/20103

속성 추가대미지 +[CaptionRatio2]
CaptionRatio2 value = [Character MINMATK] × 0.1
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>>174517256
Quests or Lhadar/Timerys grind.
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>>174517256
Do maps and missions. There are plenty to reach level 281, when skill curve resets and you will just jump straight to 290. I personally used dungeon reset few times paired with tomes to do 6 missions with 4x exp but make sure you do missions last (after saalus etc) then missions first and again saalus etc.
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>>174517348

https://tos.neet.tv/skills/20103

Enchant Fire adds fire property attack and additional damage. The MINMATK X 0.1 is the additional damage. Which if I'm not mistaken is the extra damage line it gives. So the damage line will be doing 10% of your magic attack as damage.
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>Before Silute maint
>At the start of Silute maint

1,4k people playing in Silute in the middle of the week. So why are you still playing on a server in desertification process? Soon Klaicucks will have to thrive on a barren wasteland. We should add "dystopian" and "post-apocalyptic" to the game's tags to match Klaipeda's status in the next few weeks.

Hahahaha... HAHAHAHHAHAHAH
>>
>>174513071
Yes. Looking good is the whole point of this game anyway.
>>
>>174517721
>haha
>not huehue
You fucked up
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>>174517402
If I can card to 290 with early R8 quests, should I? I can solo grind but man, 290 full runs and all that memes.
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>>174517859
Yes. Do it.
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>>174517721
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>>174518051
You realize Klaip has like only 300-400 people or so as well??
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>>174517931
Should I use my last 4x tome for my first 290 runs?
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>>174518193
still more than 150-200
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So i havent been keeping up with this game for a few months and heard that theres a huge balance patch coming soon.

How screwed are Fletchers and Dievs with the updates?
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>>174517556
Is it just mine, or like, if I have some stage 10k matk weapon, will everyone have +1k lines?

Rather, does it take the users matk or the matk of the person the line is currently being applied to?
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>>174518219
You're nearly at the end, no much point saving them unless they're transferable to another alt.
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>>174517721
What was going on that made the same dip at the same time the day before?
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>>174518416
Fletchers aren't even good right now
Nobody uses them
Dievs will always be good due to their skillset
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I see a lot of five hammers with 5 level 5 red gems amongst high level characters. Is that actually worth it? I know the AOE +5 is nice but I can't imagine the damage actually being that good.
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So I stopped playing early on in official release but got to level 180ish if memory serves. I essentially got bored as elememe was boring as all fuck before frost cloud. Is the game and builds more fun these days? I need something to play while I am at work doing nothing for hours.
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>>174518486
I would've, but the group was 2/3 on their runs so I only got one run done. Shame.
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>>174517190
Will Agni still be worth it after the planned changes to the calculation of bonuses via elemental damage?

I don't understand the proposed formula changes
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>>174517721
Yeah, non-monkeys, come to silute to enjoy our unic features
>distance lag for you
>autistic gay people rp'ing with megaphones
>hue language
>completely different meta
and. so. much. more.
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how come this game gets constant bad reviews in japanland
is jTOS really that bad
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>>174519305
If you just came from /mmog/, it doesnt. One shitty website with >50 voters means nothing.
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isn't jtos a super success?
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>>174519596
Yeah
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>>174519471
>2084 reviews doesn't mean anything
yeah okay whatever faggot
>>174519596
It's not, it's just thrown around as a hot meme because this game is heavily circled around weebs.
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>>174518943
Yes, there is no better neck.
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>>174518827
The only good part of the game is fucking around with differents builds.
I came during the leveling event, made a bunch of weird characters and left again.
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>>174519305
its the same game as iTOS and kTOS, ofc its shitty
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>>174519596
The start was good as every MMO, then they got our party bug which wasn't fixed for quite a while, most people quit on this period.
Then the jTOS staff turned out to be even more incompetent than iTOS/kTOS and fucked up the server/events so many times that the population is now very limited.

And yes, they use IMCompetent as an insult as well.
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>>174518538
Lol just checked that thread
It's even more dead than tosg
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>>174519956

So you're saying don't bother?
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>>174520232
How about trying the game and forming your own opinion for once.
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>>174520232
Depends. Don't bother going for the new hot meta meme: if you're not going to reach end game it's not worth it, that why you got bored with your elememe.
And since there is no end game, you should concentrate on the only good part of the game (the class system) because you'll get bored pretty quickly.
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>>174520202
/mmog/
155 posts in 9 hours - 17 posts per hour
53 ips in 9 hours - 5.8 posters per hour
2.9 posts per person

/tosg/
479 posts in 18 hours - 26 posts per hour
84 ips in 18 hours - 4.6 posters per hour
5.7 posts per person

I rate it a weet weet out of dead game
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>>174520298

I did try the game and at the time I found it boring that the game was essentially just cycling skill cds (and depending on where you were at in your leveling progress there were dead times). While I didn't quite ask this the first time around I was wondering if it's fixed to where it feels like you are atleast always doing something useful.
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>>174520574
Elememe is boring as hell desu
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>>174520492
Triggered as fuck
Enjoy your containment thread with a random popping in every now and then asking a dumb question before deciding to not waste their time on dead old games
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>>174520717
contain this
*grabs dick*
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>>174520717
if /mmog/ is so dead why does /tosg/ feel the need to advertise their bad dedgame there every month?
checkmate m8
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>giving fucks about ded/alive generals
kill yourself my gayman

and fuck off to your other general already
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>>174520789
No idea, this general is pretty healthy considering the population of our game
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>>174520861

majority here are of euro/br/pinoys no wonder the thread is better than most /vg/ generals with burguer majority

god I missed playing a game with a good international EU community with burgers contained on a NA server
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>>174520651
Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man
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>>174520970
the less popular and more dead a game the better the community is
back when this general was fucking packed it was LITERAL GARBAGE
now it's quiet and okay
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>>174520970
Good one my dude.
Playing with retarded ESLs or even worse, slavs who can't speak a word of english is the worst.
Basically, kys fedicuck.
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>>174520970
Can only attest to that,
I live in North America but honestly these people can barely be called human beings
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>>174521112
>event dungeon
>126 runs
>3 wizard bracelets
>1 rapid bangle
>1 petamion
Should i even bother doing more? I feel like i won't drop anything else.
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>>174521112
Oops this >>174521261 wasn't for you
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/cute/
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>>174521598

They finally added real wedding dresses and tuxedos... But did they add marriage?
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>>174521598
where?
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>>174521656
>did they add something that needs to be coded and isn't just another costume or some tweaks to numbers
heh
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this too
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>buying TP on your KR account
LOL
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>>174521754
They just give you 500 TP for playing right now
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>>174521678
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>playing tos right now
LOL
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>>174519658
>eating kepos
That's terrible! ;_;
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>>174521729
>more gayass weaboo sailor outfits
holy shit FUCKING STOP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k0SmqbBIpQ
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>>174521846

Slut!
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>>174521754
we dont
and these are not yet in shops

>>174521814
kinda. or more on test
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>>174521846
tell me ur forearm routine breh
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>>174522008
it's the Popeye routine my dude
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>>174521846
thanks popeye
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>>174521887
>play gayass weaboo game
>complain about gayass weaboo shit being added
u'r not very smart, huh?
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>>174522138
the overused japanese sailor schoolgirl outfit is clearly several weeaboo levels above the standard art and costume designs for this game

it's basically on the same level of miko
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>>174522228
maybe... i dont think i will buy these
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>>174522138
I want to impregnate this girl
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1-5 work
6-0 make a costume tier list
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>>174522291
>>174521953
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>>174523047
Just look at that beautiful Y
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>>174523151
That Y is the only thing that are boobs. Enemies have real bouncing boobs but characters just get a crotch drawn on their chest.
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I am bored, what i should do in tos?
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>>174523570
Do your dailies
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>>174523520
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Is around 33m exp/hour SOLO grinding in Jeromel a good pace? I haven't actually had the mod on since ancient times and installed it to see. Just wondering if this is a good rate. Should I head for Kadumel instead or is Jeromel better for a PD2? Also this class is insanely OP. I now see why you guys shit on Elememe's and Swords so much.
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>>174523640
they aren't fun
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>>174524004
pvp
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>>174524467
But this game has no PvP
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are
>Panto Spearhead
rare?
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>>174523695
Nevermind, got lucky with this. Didn't think these existed at these levels. Almost missed it. Completely forgot to eat a tome for it though.
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Can Pandemic spread Death Sentence?
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Exhausted from work...today will be the day!!
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>>174525232
Yes, about as rare as antler horns.
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You know what I want to see? BRs and SEAmonkeys in one server for week. I'd probably be laughing for a week watching the madness.
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>>174525845
Oh well, in the 280HG they are not rare anymore..
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>>174525716
I heard killing the plants while waiting helps alot
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>>174526112
S■■■■y on suicide watch
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>>174526546
I'm level 119, my wife is on her dragoon near me doe. We wanted to get this over with early.

I'll be sure to tell her. Wouldn't hurt to try.
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>>174526715
Yeah its going to be a long time either way just because the game loves being autistic for that
Hope you're in ch1 too or in a channel where people grind

Good luck and keep your eyes open
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>>174526546
thats an urban legend
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>>174527590
There is no such thing as urban legends when it comes to RNG
You simply cannot prove its not possible
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>>174527848
noice
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSYxrOmQRWM

Can we at least agree the music was good?
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>>174528019

I have no idea who Kevin is, but he is way too good for IMC.
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>>174528019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ELAwnKUwCY

this title is odd
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I'LL DO MY BEST
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sage or enchanter for pyro/chrono?
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>Aspersion nerf'd

hmm lame
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>>174528862
Spr scaling now so shop version sucks I guess.
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>>174528862
I can't read fucking gookrunes
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>>174527034
PUtang ina MO
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>>174529041
>before and after pics
>Physical Defense:
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>>174528862
>truffles LFM need priest / aspersio buffer
calling it
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>>174528862

Most buffs just got nerfed to fuck on ktest. Aspersion in particular was really shit anyway because the new percentage defence makes increases in defence less effective.
The game is basically capped at 70% damage reduction and the closer to get to this 70%, the less effective each point of defence gets.

This means unless your defence was low as fuck, the 52% defence bonus it gave was realistically translating into like 1-2% less damage taken.
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>>174528862
Barely matters when it comes to log base reduction
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>>174529172
>>174529179
52% def yesterday was still nice

>>174528964
shop blessing gave 3.2k dmg before
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>>174528862
>>174528964
when were you when Pardoner shops were kill?
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>>174529283

>52% def yesterday was still nice

It really wasn't. Values are all relative to each other now, and once your defence exceeds the enemies attack stat, additional defence basically becomes pointless.

Damage reduction basically looks something like this, with the grey line being the point where attack and defence values are equal.
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>>174526112
All those Bapho Jrs.
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>>174529530
>Just make stats not matter at all lol

Fun.
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>>174529661
basically you can sell your plate sets because leather+yellow gem are way better solo or not
even cloth+yellow gem is better than plate
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>>174529142
>truffles
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>>174529661

Stats only matter when compared to other stats. In PVE the highest attack value any enemy has is 2600. Once your defence exceeds this it is no longer relevant. The difference between 2600 and 2,600,000 defence is almost nothing.

The only time defence might matter is in PVP where players can get higher attack stats.
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>>174529661
sure go ahead and wear your no armor cafrisun or something
see how that works out for you
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>>174530238
We've already seen a level 155 character taking hits from 277 mobs so it'd probably be fine for everything outside Solmiki.
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>>174517721
>So why are you still playing on a server in desertification process?
Because I want to play with actual humans, not monkeys.
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>>174528019
I think the tracks lose a lot of impact since they're used in playlists instead of being one track per map (most of the time) but I like this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_UezraElno
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>>174529172
70% cap? That's retarded.
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>>174531756
I agree
it should be 50% but 70% I can live with
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>>174531756
I always knew HP was the futureproof defensive stat.
70% is too much anyway.
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>>174528391
http://wpp.jp/
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>>174521261
>15 runs
>only 1 wizard bracelet so far

Explode luckshitter
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How long does the shinobi class quest usually take? I am regretting my shinobiless meme build
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>>174532221
>futureproof
niceme.me
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Futureproof is recruiting
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CoffeeHouse is recruiting.
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is cute alive?
is cute recruiting?
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>>174535067
Futureproof barely exists. Almost every active member fucked upon to some irrelevant guild.
It's much comfier now but it's lonely
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>>174535340
Yes and yes
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Lotus is recruiting!
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Is the only counter to sword3 in the swordsman tree also sword3? Restrain and pain barrier are hard to deal with.
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>>174536060
Here are a list of things that counter sword3 (or swords in general)

- heals
- safetyzones
- gohei
- ausrine
- laima and running away
- magnetic force
- raise
- coursing
- hook
- levitation

the list grows infinitely larger if you do not have cata3 btw
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>>174535812
Lotus should disband a join a true tosg guild such as Futureproof.
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>>174536358
>or swords in general
or anything in general
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>>174535558
Almost every active player in the whole game fucked off.
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>>174536372
Futureproof should disba-
Oh nvm
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I feel like this game is turning me into an antisemite
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>>174537072
Those dirty Korean Jews amirite
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CnL is recruiting
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>>174537256
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>>174537269
I thought CnL died?
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>>174537439
CnL has abandoned tosg
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>>174537332
Oh no! They'll turn your name into a number and make you punch yourself!

You'd think they would have learned their lesson with putting numbers on people
Holocaust jokes!
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>>174537439
no
>>174537558
no
>>174537269
maybe no

>>174537072
just stay away from /pol/mage and ur fine
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>>174537558
Makes me want to join
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>>174537637
Shut up nerd, polmage is the only good thing about cnl
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>>174516179
Alles Gute zum Geburtstag, mein Führer!
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who the fuck is /pol/mage

how do I become a /pol/mage
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>>174518553
Steam maintenance
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>>174537885
polmage is Futureproof's agent currently working undercover in CnL.
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>>174537885
>she didnt roll a /pol/mage

look at this loser
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>hehe we're nazis guys
>just like ze germans
kys shitskins
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Which is the most fun magic class?
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>>174538105
cnl_meatup.jpg
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>>174536372
Don't worry, I won't let them in. My name is already a number so their tricks won't work. But like whoever it was said, we are recruiting. Send a friend request if I'm not on.
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>>174538125
Right now either pyrolinker or elementalist
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>>174538215
i don't see any cosplaying in that picture at all anon.
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>>174538125
Psychokino
Linker
Sorcerers
Featherfoots
Warlocks
Wizard3
Thaumaturge2
Necromancers
Elementalists
Chronomancers

ah fuck man, they're all so fun my man I think I'm a little bit biased towards wizards
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>>174538125
Uninstall wizard.
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>>174538125
fun things are fun!

and 'fun' is relative, dumbnigga
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don't die on me
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M-Musketeers are good and fun, right?
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>>174539926
Fun? Yeah
Good? Are okay
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>>174539926
Yes
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>>174539926
They're fun and good against single target but single target is irrelevant in this game.
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>>174540098
>but single target is irrelevant in this game
but thats wrong
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>>174540719
But it's not
Because AoE classes do your single target job as good as you
You're irrelevant
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>>174540858
>he think's AoE can keep up to the power of things meant for single target

look at this retard
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>>174541210
play the game
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>>174541616
Anon i play wugushi, there is literally no class that can out DPS a wugushi on bosses.
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>>174541709
Literally everyone can outdps wugushi on bosses, poisons tick for 900-1200 at best, with full enhancement they still can't reach 2k.
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>>174541709
Less talking, more proofs.
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How good are these classes?

Sword 1 > Pelt 3 > Squire 3 > Templar
Sword 1 > Pelt 2 > Rode 3 > Shinobi > Murm
Sword 3 > Cata 3 > X > Lancer

Wiz 1 > Cryo 3 > Chrono 3 > Rune
Wiz 1 > Pyro 3 > Link 3 > Sage
Wiz 2 > Psycho 3 > Thauma 3

Cleric 1 > Priest 3 > Chap > Oracle 3
Cleric 2 > Diev 3 > Miko > PD 2
Cleric 3 > Kriv 3 > Miko > Taoist

I already have some of these at rank 6-7, also, I´m also starting to play with archers now, so far I have an Archer 2 > Ranger 3, its gimmick seems to be about moving and shooting fast. Guessing the contrast to that is a Quarrel Shooter which seems to go for a static turrent playstyle.
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Seriously, someone please archive ToS the way it is now and reverse engineer a server based on it and fix things from that point.
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>>174543060
Everyhing will be fixed in the revival update
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>>174542836
>Swordsman

#1 is awful
#2 is alright
#3 is PvP only more or less

>Wizard
#1 is worse than Sage but it's whatever I guess.
#2 is strong, most people do Thaum 2 but do what you want because Pyro and Linker are crazy overpowered.
#3 is pretty bad, Thaum 3 is a weak class as is Wiz 2.

>Cleric
#1 is pointless, Chap is bad w/o Inq and Oracle 3 is full support; only do if you just want sex change shop asap
#2 is OP as hell.
#3 is not the meta but it's ok.
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>>174542836
>Sword 1 > Pelt 3 > Squire 3 > Templar
does what its suppose to do
>Sword 1 > Pelt 2 > Rode 3 > Shinobi > Murm
meme burster
>Sword 3 > Cata 3 > X > Lancer
good pvp
>Wiz 1 > Cryo 3 > Chrono 3 > Rune
Runecaster useless, standard support build
>Wiz 1 > Pyro 3 > Link 3 > Sage
counting its days, but good
>Wiz 2 > Psycho 3 > Thauma 3
???? it's kino3 so its decent for pvp i guess but wtf is that
>Cleric 1 > Priest 3 > Chap > Oracle 3
absolute meme tier
>Cleric 2 > Diev 3 > Miko > PD 2
cancer tier
>Cleric 3 > Kriv 3 > Miko > Taoist
comfy thundergod


I mean you just clearly built bunch of meme builds and probably know it
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reminder that linkerthauma featherfoots will be the new farming meta and will be seen everywhere
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>Split Arrow change
What the hell Kim? What am I supposed to do to my three Scout3 builds?
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>>174542836
>templar at 8
>not templar3 at 9
shoggoth

>>174543060
But balance is at the worst point in the game's history now. Go back in time before transcendence.

>>174545675
True.
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>>174546270
Respec them like everyone else, idiot
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>>174546283
Changing everything to low %s and making transcendence stronger isn't helping. There's also nothing inherently wrong with trans other than it lacks risks and thus makes people want to grind more to get 100% success when people barely want to play the game as is. Just cap it to needing like x gems per level and having some fixed chance to fail. It's also redundant to upgrading.

As it is now, just lower base damage of skills, raise the base damage of other skills, change some effects, and lower enemy HP and problems are mostly solved.
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>>174546270
Please don't tell me you were farming the 170 dungeon everyday on these 3
Surely people cannot be this autistic
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>>174546776
I'm glad mr kim is in charge and not you, anon.
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>>174546776
They're making transcendence weaker with the updates. There's a lot inherently wrong with having such a colossal power gap between the upgraded nobility and regular plebs. You're basically asking to have godmode by spending a million hours farming.
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>>174546709
Of fucking course.
>>174546804
As opposed to what? Do Saalus for eternity? I get 2.7M a day on 3 hours on those fuckers I'd rather just buy shards, also everyone is autistic for playing this game.
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The thing is that I am autistic and want at least one "shop" character for each class. Oracle for Cleric, Squire for Swordsman, thinking on Enchanter for Wizard, and I guess Appraiser for Archer. Within this goal of mine I also want all 3 Wizard green classes (Thauma, Chrono, Linker) fully maxed and in one of my 3 Wizard characters (I want to have 3 characters for each class; 3 Swordsmen, 3 Wizards, 3 Archers, 3 Clerics, 12 characters in total and 3 pets). Also, I want to have all hidden classes. Also, I do not want 2 characters to have more than one class in common, for example, I do not want 2 of my Wizards to have Pyro 3. I want my characters to have entirely different playstyles if possible. I also want one of my 3 characters for each class to be PVP focused, one utility/shop focused, and one PVE focused.

Here are my characters so far:

>Cleric
Cleric2>Diev3>Miko>Plague2 - This fills the quota of having a hidden class, PVE focused
Cleric2>Priest3>Chap>X>Inqui - This also fills the quota of a hidden class, all 2 cleric hidden classes now complete, these two builds are also very different in playstyle, PVP focused
Oracle3 - Don’t know yet what build to make, I could ditch my Krivis3 I currently have for the shop character, so it needs to have Oracle3 in it


>Swordsman
Sword1>Pelt3>Squire3>Temp - The shop class for my Swordsman character, also Templar
Sword1>Pelt2>Rode3>Shinobi>Murm - Need a Shinobi for the hidden class, PVP focused
Need PVE focused swordsman

>Wizard
Wiz1>Pyro3>Link3>Sage - PVE focused, fills the quota of having one of the three green wizard classes
Wiz1>Cryo3>Chrono3>Rune - Another green class, and also hidden class
Enchanter - Need my shop character, but also need Thauma green class
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>>174547350
>You're basically asking to have godmode by spending a million hours farming.
Yes, I'm asking for am mmorpg, not a casual baby festival.
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>>174545361
Shit, that's pretty cool
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>>174547525
>The thing is that I am autistic
okay, we can see that..
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It's not late to roll on Fedimian
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>>174547525
Hi Mr. Autism

I haven't read your text but I saw you want one shop char for each class
I just want to remind you that you cannot have more than one shop out per account
Just something to consider
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>>174547810
nice classic meme
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>>174547810
It's not too late to run Uninstall Wizard
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>>174547849
I know that, I just want them
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>swell doubles enemy hp
>shrink doesn't half it
hmmmmmm
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after this patch, what's the best damage cleric? Monk Inquisitor or something spell oriented?
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>>174548238
We dont know
They keep doing massive changes to skills every week on the test servers
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>>174548238
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What's the best kino build for party play?
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>>174548770
something without kino on it

maybe cryo3chrono3kino1
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>>174548238
Melee inquis
Either Monk or Pala
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>>174548903
Then it's not a kino build and therefore worthless to me. Don't bother to respond to me again.
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>>174549525
Don't bother to asks questions if you have not played the game yet at all

Kino has 0 (zero(null(0))) value in a party
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>>174549701
Well in his defense only like 5 classes have any value in a party
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>>174548770
>>174549701
>Kino has 0 (zero(null(0))) value in a party
Don't listen to this faggot.

You can actually run any Kino3 build and have more CC ability than a Cryo3. In fact, if you were to do the build he proposed but swapped the Cryo and Chrono ranks you'd have a better build.

CryoKino3Chorno3 > Cyro3Chrono3Kino
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>>174549943
except your only good CC (Magnetic force) lasts for 1 second and relies on AoE ratio

Raise is useless pve, actually makes things worse
Pole is also trash
PP has a huge cooldown and only keep things in place once they're actually there
But since you have no way of bringing things together that is not limited heavily by aoe ratio the build sucks

Even kino3cryo3 would be better because you would have cryo3 on it
But then you wouldnt have chrono which is what you want from a wizard in a party
and therefore like I said kino is shit
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>>174549701
>null(0)
Exception
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>>174547525
My niggah. I also want 3 of each class with at least one shop. I already have 12 character with the lowest being rank4. Now that I think about it maybe I do have autism too.
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>>174550413
>Pole is also trash
Someone who sucks at Wizard is posting
Hint: It's you
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>>174550693
Very funny coming from someone who says that kino3 has more cc ability than a cryo3

It's like a mentally disabled person calling a university professor retarded
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>>174550969
Raise, Pole and Magnetic Force = more CC than Cryo, not to mention PP can also be used as CC.
You're shit and retarded.
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>arrows, pistols and muskets now do 12.5% more damage against leather and cloth
>cannon now does 25% more damage against plate
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>>174551202
Raise is shit, it's the opposite of useful, it makes things almost always worse for your party

Magnetic force gets 3 monsters and thats it!
It has no value in party play where you want lots of monsters to be gathered

Pole sucks because its hitbox is buggy, it's slow in pulling and the monsters often escape, not to mention it gathers them along a line not to a point like you'd want to

PP is only good if you have the monsters set up for you in a point, but you have no skills to do that because you're not cryo3

K Y S or learn to play you autistic trashcan
My last time getting baited by this kind of dumbfuck
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>>174551470
>Raise is shit, it's the opposite of useful, it makes things almost always worse for your party
Shit Wiz confirmed

>Magnetic force gets 3 monsters and thats it!
Now there's a REAL shitwiz. Fivehammer and couple of headgear pieces. Wow, that took so much, now it's BETTER than tree.

>Pole sucks because its hitbox is buggy, it's slow in pulling and the monsters often escape, not to mention it gathers them along a line not to a point like you'd want to
Shit Wiz triple confirmed, l2p

>PP is only good if you have the monsters set up for you in a point, but you have no skills to do that because you're not cryo3
Magnetic Force into PP, so difficult.

Using your brain is tough, isn't it, shitwiz?
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>>174551232
>1 + 12.5%
>1 + 25%
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>>174551659
Haha I see how it is now
>I never grinded more than truffles that are small sized and have 1 aoe defense
u
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>>174551928
More like you've never played kino and are awful at everything.
Also
My last time getting baited by this kind of dumbfuck
:^)
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>LF kino for grind or ET
said nobody ever
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>>174552051
I'm not giving you any real responses anymore is what I'm saying
ptg and get above lvl 220
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>>174552182
>not giving responses
>keeps replying
kek
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>>174505362
I'm onto you Mr. Kim.
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>>174552241
>5 second one liner with no thought behind it is a response

here's another (You) for you, keep begging for them like a dog then
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>>174552335
>responding isn't responding
Wow, using your brain really IS tough for a shitwiz.
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>>174552474
Here you go doggy, say aaaah
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>>174552561
>getting BTFO that hard
I can't stop laughing.
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>>174552650
Oh yes, who's a good dog? Yes you are!
Have another (You)!
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niggafaggotmod, can you remove both of these fags pls?
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>>174552139
No one wants either build for either.
Chronolinker > both. Both are equally lol
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>>174547965
>>174547849
You can have more than one shop, just only one can be AFK-open at a time :^)
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Where i can see some build guides?
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>>174547525
You have no dedicated silver farming character so you can get a sword1>pelt1>holpite3>corsair3 for pve sword if you think third character with pelt in it is bad, get sword1>highlander1>barb3>doppel3. Or you can get pyro2 linker2 thaum2.
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>>174552935
Which one of them is the misinfo agent?
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>>174554442
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/builds
Someone removed it from the OP. Obviously, not every build there is optimal or good.
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>>174554541
What's the skill distribution for barb3>doppel3?
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>>174554672
most of them are utterly shit
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>>174554654
Neither. And both builds are irrelevant due to Chronolinker.
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>>174554790
Here's a hint >>174553176
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>>174548693
They jacked up the ratio on Carnivory really high in last ptch didn't they? I think it was almost 300% at level 10 and they didn't even change the hitcount. It's like they're afraid to let Miko's Hamaya be a weak skill but they also can't justify Carnivory being weaker than it.
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>>174554871
This one goes here >>174554654
As for doppel, i've never played it nor am i a good theorycrafter, just saw people screwing around with it.
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>>174554672
Thanks, is Cannoneer any good?
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>>174554829
At least some of them at least get class combinations right and it's not too hard to notice a shit build so if you are looking for ideas and not exact instructions the site is fine.
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>>174555317
new players dont know how bad these are. and they just copy these crap builds.

wasn't there one guy posting a lot of shit builds, some of them top rated, and later he deleted them all and admit he didnt play like half of them?
the public build section at that outdated site should be avoided.

ask ppl you know that play the build or ask here (there will be some truth posters)
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Is there some new Sadhu meme I'm unaware of? I saw 3 different Sadhus leveling today and I'm used to not seeing any anywhere.
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>>174555589

that was rugal, some other troll is carrying on his legacy with a hopgoon guide
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>>174551470

as I psychokino, I'm offended by this post. Just play elememe dumb bitch, frost cloud -> jump gameplay fits your I.Q.
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>Spend 3 mill on enchant scrolls for favorite hat
>Mediocre rolls
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>>174556326
just buy a few more scrolls. or if you are out of silver.. just buy a few TP :^)
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What's everyone doing while reading misinfo posts and waiting for new thread soon(tm)?
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>>174556326
Spend 3 more millions. This time surely you will get the enchant you want.
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>>174554672
>>174554829
>>174555317
>>174555213
I'd say 95% of the builds in tosbase were made by armchair theorycrafters from before iCBTs.
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>>174556289
Yep. That's why I call him shitwiz. He can only play specs that require no thought.
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>>174555589
New player here, where i can learn to build my character right?
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>>174556634
thinking about spending more hours trying to farm a item i want but getting nothing instead again
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>>174556928
thinking about doing something is not something you should be doing, bring your plans into actions instead silly little touhou

Anything will be worth more than thinking about doing things
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>>174554672
Because it's notorious for having shit builds and being years out of date. However, nobody bothers keeping a proper list since things change so drastically in every big patch and there's so many niche purposes.

You pretty much have to research what people have actually done in game and how they did it.

>>174555213
Better than it used to be, still not min-maxer material. Often used with falconer, quarrel shooter, or scout and more popular in pvp than pve.
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They should just replace merc dailies with the Donne list thing, it's actually a good event.
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>>174556634
looking for a saalus group
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>>174557717
Sometimes its easier and faster to spend 1 or 2 megaphones and start one yourself
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Anyone have a list of maps specifically for Lv12 card questing? Like in order? I've done Khamadon Forest and Khonot Forest so far.
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>>174557717
I just pray to Mr.Kim to give me statue map.
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If i 8x tome a 140 dungeon at level 142, how far do you think that'll get me?
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>>174558680
I went from 142 to 163 using x8 with no team exp/cookies.
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>>174558813
Just one dungeon? I got 2 4x exp tomes from the event. Can I forge them together to make an 8x?
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>>174559241
it doesnt hurt to try. Just buy the recipe and see if it works
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>People who cast bloodletting in 290 R

What exactly are you trying to accomplish?
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>>174560865

it blocks the boss firewall damage
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>>174560916
oh, but they do like no dmg
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>>174561140

they do a lot of damage on that fucker scout 3 mergen 1 naked farmer that join our rushes, kek
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>>174561210
>naked farmer
let that shitter die
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmXAL3BxKLA

Th-That's really cruel!
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>>174561529

meanwhile if she had TK 15 she could have killed the mobs with two swings
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>demonas gauntlets recipe

it really drops from Blue Spion Mages? Killed 500+ already
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So is there any way to repair the level 50 level up chest weapons, or do you just drop them as soon as their durability is gone?
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>>174562239
You can repair it
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>>174562326
Even the windrunner?
I haven't been able to at any of the npc repair shops.
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does anyone ever do the 140 dungeon? I've been waiting for 10 minutes; while it isn't long, I don't want to wait another 20 minutes if noone is going to show.
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>>174562678
You pretty much have to shout for low level dungeons, most people just use a clear voucher for everything pre 260.
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>>174559241
That's 3 runs.
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>>174562678
No not really
140 is slow and people dont want to waste their tome time unless someone shouts to instaclear it
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>>174529172
>>174531756

Shouldn't it be 85%? If plate gives 15%.
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>>174547538
Wasting your life away on a video game doesn't make you non-casual or hardcore.

It makes you retarded
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>>174564664
>If plate gives 15%.
Its (probably) 10% total.
https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/attributes/10014

like
https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/attributes/10013
says 30 and 50. but 4 Parts only give 50, not 80.
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We bomberman now!
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>>174564664

Pretty sure the percentage reduction armor provides is counted separately from the reduction provided by defence. It's also 10% from plate, which means 70% damage reduction from defence, then 10% off of the remaining damage (which brings it to 73% damage reduction total).
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>>174565553
wait, does this mean fletcher will become viable for aoe?
Shit man, that changes EVERYTHING
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>>174565553
Now I know what to respec my scout3.
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>>174565356
>>174565691

Makes it seem like defense is completely worthless then. It means we all aim for that sweet 70% spot with LEATHER or CLOTH and stay there. I'm also assuming the same 70% applies to magic too. Then we just Glug Glug Glug for dear life because there's no way to mitigate the remaining 30% which might be 1000's of damage, which means CON is going to be on everyone's plate. No pun intended.

Feels pretty shitty. It makes me think Swords have to go almost 1:1 CON and DEX. Wizards can just take CON and INT and be ok, since ranged. Archers most likely same as swords, but less CON because ranged. Clerics don't have to care at all of course thanks to having a wide range of immunities.

The more I learn about this update, the less I like it.
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>>174566286

The math is fine, the problem is the content isn't balanced around it. It's too easy to use end game armor to reach the 70% damage reduction for almost all enemies in the game.

If they reduced the defence all armor provided by half then it wouldn't be nearly as easy to get 70% damage reduction and things like buffs would still be useful.
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>>174566605
It means this game is going to be absolutely terrible for casual players after the rebalance for months until IMC pulls their heads out of their asses. Running low on patience with this company.
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ded game
ded general
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>>174565553
Hehehe, nice.
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>>174566286
Nothing is going to hit you for thousands of damage outside ET/Solmiki, where you should have a cleric providing some form of damage mitigation and you can dual wield potions on top of that. Every vid we have seen of field farming has been enemies hitting for barely any damage.
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Is grinding at demon prison 2 still a thing?
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It's like 4 am in EU and I have dungeon runs left and 2 hours until they reset. Should I attempt to solo 290 as a PD2 as level 290? I obviously can't even wear practonium weapons.

>>174568257
no
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>>174568063

Compared to what? The 1 damage everything deals right now?
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>>174568775
It'd be wasted runs otherwise, so it doesn't hurt to try. Unless there's some lower dungeon you need stufff from.
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>>174568914
Not him but he's lying. Things will hit you 1000's outside of ET even with buffed defenses.
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>>174568914
Except all the enemies also die way faster as well. Farming overall is easier and cheaper due to less money spent on repairs.
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I have amassed 4 level 5 red gems. Should I put it into my five hammer or wait until I'm higher level to shove em into my equipment. I'm level 160.
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>>174569785
5 hammer, it's better than anything until super super late game.
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How do I level fast as a moron who just started
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>>174570003
Do quests until you finish Tenet Church. Go grind at Tenet Garden until level 50 and start doing level 50 dungeon runs.
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>>174570003
play the game
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>>174570216
>>174570216
>>174570216
>>174570216

Bump limit has been reached, migrate whenever
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how cute/10 am i?
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>>174570336
>boy
>monk
>red devil wings
>default eyes
0/10
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