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>Future Improvements: Chat UI and Trade Policies/Auto Match, EXP Tomes and More
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=903
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=905

>Plans for Combat System Changes (the great rework coming early summer according to IMC)
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=920
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=934
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okFGAS_Y6Is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhJP5wJPa0o

>Combat rework spreadsheet (informations from kTest)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1w96wEplRalplgC4f0TTyiYqXNZfIVZopUbTNFUX_be8/edit#gid=0

>Latest "Patch Notes":
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=936

>Events:
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=925
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=914
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=913

>Can I play the game now?
International version available on Steam RIGHT NOW. The Korean and Japanese servers are non-steam (Nexon)

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>Addon Manager (includes jTOS and iTOS addons)
https://github.com/JTosAddon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager/releases

>Database, skill planner and other stuff
https://tos.neet.tv/

>Extra Stat Points
http://pastebin.com/6Y3R7aYt


>Servers
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA) Fedimian(EU) Silute(SA) Telsiai(SEA)

>/tosg/ Guilds info:
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Orsha, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a Templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.

>Klaipeda
Futureproof (ApplyAFineHorse3)
CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)
cute (Merigolds)

>Telsiai
Comfy (neshoi)

>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)

>Silute
Lewd (Nanaumi)
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hey
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Klaipeda best server

Silucuck monkeys get out
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>Silute is two phonemes away from "slut"
>Lewd guild
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>>174274416
I-It's not the way you think!
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JELLYS ARE GREAT AND CUTE!
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Npc: I need you to drop kick the Goddess!! [Reward: 20 silver and 1x Lv1 EXP Card]

Character: k
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>>174274539
>No one on the statue
>No shops over the NPCs
Why are westerners such trash?
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>>174274641
The final quest will be Giltine tempting the player with exp cards to allow the tree to consume the world.
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>>174274759
>No one on the statue
>No shops over the NPCs
They do that in kLive. And a lot of them.
(most) Koreans are just as trash and shit as white pigs.
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The new melstis is shit, you niggers. It can't add more than a few seconds to glass mole, and can't keep other buffs and potions up for long. Why would I waste a slot in my group on a krivis with such weak utility and no dps?
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>>174276524
What fucks melstis' new form is the 20s limit. Otherwise not having to channel the skill is a big plus.
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>>174276524
You will want a taoist anyways so why not a krivis3diev3taoist??
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How much silver do you have saved up, /tosg/?
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>>174276767
Not really, even without the limit extending low duration buffs like chappy and mole would be impossible.
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>>174277657
37mil
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>>174277657
Less than 1m. I always end up spending my money on cute costumes and hats.
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>>174277657
12m, I spend 50 millions on a Heart of Glory recipe 3 days ago.
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>>174277657
About 15 mil. I had a lot more but I started spending on attributes and stuff because why not.
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>>174276767
I'd much rather have it be a channel like it is now so the actual DPS can have glass mole and chap on 100% uptime and ausrine is on 100% uptime than this new meme shit that won't get krivis a party slot in solmiki or blut.
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>>174278532
>I would rather it be OP than nerfed

You don't say.
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>>174278532
t. Krivis
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>>174278532
hope you die in your sleep you fucking fat sack of shit
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Will they ever bring hunter back from the dead? First they make it strong, then they reduce all damage increases AND make all skill durations shit.
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Just died a couple times in a dungeon

Then got kicked from the game
log back in with the exp before I had entering the 170 and also all buffs up even though I died

Seems like the instance server crashed and just rolled my entire character back 15 minutes ago

Is this normal?
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I wish r9 and 10 had come out first. Now there's 0 chance they will be good. All the amazing skills they would have had will be nerfed and remade. You know they've just been sitting on them since even beta.
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>>174278936
>>174278996
>>174279091
I'll just reroll, when the class change comes, but it's a good thing that there was another 0 expense class like chronomancer that you could use to gear up your main. Now all that's left is chrono and there is a surplus of those.
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>>174279246
Never heard of that happening.
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Why aren't you playing Wugushi, anon?
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>>174279764
Maybe i will make one.. i already have the Dress and Pantsu of a certain famous Wugu
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>>174279321
Just make a fwee3
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>>174279926
>i already have the Dress and Pantsu of a certain famous Wugu
R-Really?
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Is the yellow Shinobi flower on all channels or just ch 1?
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>>174280194
D-d-d-d-dont ask..
and its a kinda sad story.
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>>174278532

either chappa 80% or melstis had to go, anon
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>>174282385
No they didn't.
What had to go was perma Aursine.
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>>174282463
Perma mole/chappa were problems too, they would either have to balance content around that extra attack and make Krivis mandatory or let Krivis parties steamroll any dps checks.
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>>174281863
Now I'm curious. Tell me.
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>>174276524
t. plasmagica
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>>174282463

you think that 160k perma composee spam was fine, anon?
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>>174283151
i killed her
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>>174280565
answer plz
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>>174283532
Have you seen the guild raids' bosses HP?
Devs do think those numbers were fine.
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>>174283770

oh, about that. they toned down every mob hp. shit that had 200k hp now has ~80k
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>>174284356
They still haven't balanced ET and Guild Raids.
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>>174284356
this >>174284503 and some have more now
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Goodnight /tos/ just got my monk c1, what are some most have equipments?
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>>174284503
it's a testserver you braindead mong
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>gae bolg 10 is now stronger than dethrone

finally this game makes sense. but they need to move the CC to gae bolg, makes no sense dethrone pinning the target
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>>174284991
So what?
They are decreasing overall mobs HP, but they are decreasing damage as well.
If the hp to dps ratio stays the same then have fun taking twice the time in doing hard content since no more krivis3 meltsis.
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>>174283553
H-hidoi...
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>>174284963

Also, is Iron skin worth?
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>>174285425
In PvP, yes. PvE, not so much.
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>>174285269
>have fun having hard content be hard
I will
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>>174285576
>taking twice the time means something is hard
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>>174285676
>labeling something as hard content in a korean cashgrab mmo for middle aged men
two can play your retarded greentext game
In reality none of this is hard its just a game
But it will force me to play more carefully or use different strategies than LULPERMAINVUL
retard
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>>174285676
t. Someone butthurt that they lost their invincibility cheese
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>>174285514

can you meme a rushing cata using this or the first stagger/restrain stun will cancels this skill
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>>174285345
Yes.. she dieded and is in a better place now..
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>>174285886
I don't give a fuck about perma Aursine that obviously had to go.
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Anyone got a good recipe for cheese biscuits or something like that.
I wanna bake something quick and enjoy this comfy monday.

also pls join 180 siaualai queue its fucking dead in here
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>>174286192
srs anon?

just shredded cheese, flour, baking powder and some fucking water, mate

get out
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>>174286192
>cheese biscuits
Fucking burgers
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>>174286326
I wanted good ones though..

>>174286385
Biscuits not burgers
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>>174285986
Last I tried it, they'll literally kill themselves on you.
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How is the EU server doing in terms of population?

New patch is making me want to play again
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>>174288568
It will be more populated then NA once the BRs leave.
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>>174288568

EU server is dead but comfy. You'll need to hunt almost everything yourself because lol economy
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>>174288651
How comfy can a dead server get?
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>>174280565
ch1 only
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>>174286681
I love how braindead these retards are. They can't even take a moment to step away with their fast speed.
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dragoon is cute
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>>174288913
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ayyy
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>>174291109
No fukken way this was made legitimately.
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>>174291275
u never played korean mmos before?
or you're just so poor you can't imagine someone wasting a bunch of bangles to upgrade them high
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>>174291496
>7/11 potential
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>>174291539
>got lucky???
you're such a salty piece of shit its really pathetic to look at
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>>174291624
Woah woah I urge you to calculate how unlikely that is.
Your reaction also reeks of too much defensiveness.

First you say it's about spamming a lot of bangles and now it's about luck.
Go pick.
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>>174291275
>>174291496
You have 7.3% chance to make it.
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>>174291753
It can be either and both you fucking retarded piece of shit
>muh unlikeliness
by your definition no lottery win ever is legit
you cannot be more pathetic, your jealousy is extremely blatant over some cheap armband pixel in a videogame
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>>174291947
>lottery
nigga stop showing everybody you've never taken a statistics course in your life
the probability of having the winning numbers is low but literally millions of bets are made every week, so of fucking course it's likely there will be occasional winners unlike a shitty korean online game with less than 3000 players of which less than 5% even bothers trying to overgrade their gear
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>>174292382
Shut the fuck up you retard
You're 100% braindead if that is your argument, you should just keep your mouth shut without embarassing yourself more
The population and users that upgrade their armor is not even known to you and you talk like you know statistics by pulling them out of your ass, you also do not know how many attempts this upgrade took, because again you're blinded by your jealousy and just wildly claim cheats.
The biggest joke is that the probability is quite "high" in comparison to alot of other things, like I said you probably never played korean mmos before.
I've personally made upgrades of successchances below 0.5% with only one single weapon just through sheer luck
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>>174291821
The chance to upgrade ignoring potential loss is: 0.0328%

Give me a moment to calculate the chance with 4 potential lost such so the bangle is at 7/11.
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>>174292735
The only data I need starts with steam and ends with charts.
Enjoy being salty over a dead game, kiddo.
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>>174292958
You're the one that's salty about some autist having a better piece of pixel armband than you lmao
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>>174293002
>implying I'm him
I'm just correcting your ignorant lottery comparison
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>>174291275

Agreed. Extreme rng. Being a old 'elite' item, I think he did this with the old channel crashing method.
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Its also a fairly high level/star item which has alower chance of successful upgrades.
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>>174291624
You're outright admitting to cheating here. He pointed out the potential is the same as the name of a popular store and you were too busy flipping your shit and defensively raging to notice. You've proven you exploited upgrades and you're raging because you got caught.
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>>174294423
lol
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Does helga summon still have spammable detonate traps as an attack? I remember seeing a really old vid where she did.
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I'm not saying this shit was legit but you guys are forgetting that we have some methods of scoring better chances when hitting the anvil
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>>174294697
Which would be against the TOS either way.
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>>174294926
Yes, upgrading other weapons to increase your pseudo rng chance is absolutely against the TOS
Report anyone enhancing low level items immediately
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>>174295058

why do I see this meme in every single game
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Why is there so much forumtrash posting in these threads
You guys really let yourself go /tosg/
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>>174295163
because it works
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Who's the /tosg/ lewdest girl?
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>>174296494
M I A
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>>174294926

rhythm. don't believe in this 51% shit.
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>>174296564
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>>174296564
this
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>>174296804 not that >>174296564
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>>174297096
I won't fall for your disinfo anon, i know in my heart and panties that she is the lewdest.
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>all hunter skills reduced to 5 seconds regardless of skill level
What the fuck were they thinking?
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>>174298368
Finally balancing hunter.
You don't think a guaranteed root that damages twice per second with 2 over heat and 9 sec cooldown that lasts 30+ seconds balanced?
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>>174298368

PVP balance. They will probably upgrade DAMAGE and UTILITY.

Hunter atm is the most broken class at 2x2. And by broken I mean really broken, on all the meanings of the word.
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>>174299420
>cheap trash
hmm
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>>174299420
>not Petamion Recipe

git gud
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>>174299915
>3.9mil
not bad. gz
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More... I need... More...
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>>174299915
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another reason not to play on Klaipeda: cheaters, cheaters fucking everywhere
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>>174298467
>>174298965
>pvp
No class was balanced with PvP in mind during this first phase of the rework, are you keks suggesting they picked a single class to do it?
If anything fixed duration is a blessing since now you can dump one point in coursing and retrieve, still stunlock you for 10+ seconds and have spare points for stuff like Pointing which literally reduces your accuracy and evasion to zero. So don't give me "muh pvp balance", this is just IMC having no idea how irrelevant single target classes are in a game where you're supposed to be killing 20 mobs at a time.
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<<174300280
>IMCplying monkeys and SEAmonkeys are not the best cheater
just look at last year TOS
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>>174300280
Isn't this the whole game though?

Hackers and bots all around.
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Should I skip Kagura dance completely on a Miko? Given the fact that I know no melee DPS and might not ever need it at all.
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>>174300289

>>174300289

>No class was balanced with PvP in mind during this first phase of the rework, are you keks suggesting they picked a single class to do it?

Yeah, my dad also works at imc and he confirmed that no class was balanced with PvP in mind.

They have to start from somewhere. Even the damage reworks affects PVP. Why do you think dethrone got so kek'd despite being a mediocre PVE skill at best? Even rush was gutted (from 150%+base damage to 82%).

Even koreans were complains about hunters because they were left unchecked, unlike kinos, priests, PDs, cryos and etc. Expect more changes soon to stuff like Ausrine, MF, Meme'd7x,
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Do people actually buy Practos on klaip for 60M or what happened to that one on the market???
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>mfw got a 2nd Terralion recipe
is this a sign?
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I wish there was an end game snow map to farm, farming stuff in the snow maps is comfy and I love the music there.
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Hmm?
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I JUST GOT THE EVENT 8X EXP TOME

ON MY MOST USELESS ALT

LOL
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>>174303741
i got mine on my max level accidentally
That shit sometimes clicks itself when you try to do the event mission
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Low level here, hardly anyone around in the maps
The underground prison is spooky with no one around
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>>174304580
It's also pretty satisfying to just go around one shotting the mobs and feeling like a hero
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>>174303741

Good job, anon!
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Defend this game.
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>>174304529

yeah, exactly what happened.
imc is so retarded

>>174304651

well, in route to monk 3 now I guess
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>>174304580
In Ch1? There is maintenance soon too though.
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>>174304797
IT"S CUTE!
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>>174304632
Can't one shot everything yet, but it's fun anyway

>>174305020
Yeah, ch1. True, I'll try again tomorrow at a better time.
What time is it most active on NA servers?
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>>174305573
Not even with pardoner buffs? You should be able to.
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aaaay we finally made it to ded
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>>174302385
Probably hit its time limit and was returned to the owner.

I can't even imagine selling something for that much. It's like 4.5mil to put it up and another 6 mil in tax
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>>174305573

>What time is it most active on NA servers?
Usually around 4-6 depending on the time zone. You should be able to find someone then.
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>>174303386
You don't like them cherry blossoms?
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>see new updates and new player catch up stuff
>log back into my account after a year
>catch up shit doesnt apply to returning players
>would have to make a new steam account to get the bonuses

really makes me think
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>>174306158
Things dont have a time limit anymore if you use token
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>>174305962
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>174305962
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>>174306642
Since when? I got stuff that got returned to me.
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>>174306759
>>174305962
so this is the power of cancerous shitposting / discord / beta-orbiting / stalk posting

wow
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>>174305962
/tosg/ meets are 5man events now?
And I was thinking about coming back too.
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>>174306642
>>174306786
They do.
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>>174288757
very comfy
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>>174306895
Half of the people there aren't even /tosg/ anymore
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>>174305962
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>going to dumb ass meetups for no reason at all each damn week
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>>174307091
>socializing at all when I could be grinding more shards instead
*sigh* I know right, what are those plebs thinking
They will never get a stage 10 weapon like me if they waste their time doing those stupid dumb meetups that serve no purpose...
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>>174307231
i have been a dozen meetups. they suck. not going anymore. what for.
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>>174307317
exactly. must grind. items. and shards. i will be strong.
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>>174307476
rather afk elsewhere or logout. not care meatup full of faggots. idc stronk.
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>>174307317
so you can give the shitposters more fuel to shitpost on other servers? what else. it's go bloat the attention whores egos.
>look at how big our server is FEDI/TELSAICUSK
>you don't even got meetsup LMFAO faggot!
>I kissed your crush xD
>LEWD ERP TENTS

to be honest as soon as discord became huge last year it killed off most communities and once people get bored of a game they stop playing and just hang in the discord instead. it's easier to quit a game once you know you don't need ot anymore to socialize with the "friends" you've made in it.
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>>174307624
Discords fucking suck because of how they are exclusionary, parts of the community get left out of the discords/fall through the cracks and the community just slowly fragments till it falls apart. The in game meetups were nice because they were designated place and time and anyone who wanted to could talk to people. Discord is always, always cancer unless it's being used by IRL friends who knew each other before the game.
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>>174303581
You dun goof'd
It's gohei 1, hamaya 5, kagura 5, clap 4(or 3 with 1 sweeping)
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>>174307962
I think I'll be fine. Hamaya is amazing, but PD2 still will carry me. Most people I've met hardly ever need to use it because of how awkward it is to use it and how little you actually need it.
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>>174306782
Went to the meetup for once since i had nothing else to do tonight

Found out a certain bunny wizard murdered the entire tosg staff
Saw a gay pink clown
Witnessed two priests chanting weird spells over a lightly dressed but and knocked out japanese schoolgirl
A mysterious and buff looking musketeer in a tight uniform posing with his gun
Oh yeah and a red haired s***n demon trying to inappropriately touch the bunny wizard

8/10 meetup, looked like a porno setup
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>>174307624
shitposting was so much better back then
good old shitty times
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>>174308078
>Most people I've met hardly ever need to use it
It's literally a better frost cloud. Why would you not use it.

>how little you actually need it
It's actually a fairly useful skill because solmiki and some other challenging bosses (like guild raid, 315 dungeon, etc) become glitched on top of Hamaya and will not move for the whole duration letting your party DPS a lot better because the boss isn't jumping around or moving out of stationary DPS.
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>>174308247
All is well in tosg
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>>174308523
>its a better frost cloud
you've never used frost cloud

>it stops bosses from moving
you just described how frost cloud, cure etc. works
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>people still arguing over shit that's completely irrelevant since the combat rework
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>>174308730
>you've never used frost cloud
I have, probably more than you.

>it stops bosses from moving
Those can't do so for 23~26 seconds with a 27 seconds cooldown.
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>>174308971
>I have, probably more than you.
no

>can't do so for 23~26 seconds
if you can't kill the boss in less than that your solmiki group must suck big giant balls
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Does clap work on frostcloud??
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>>174309040
It doesn't stop at 30F like you
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>>174309240
>>174309175
get a job
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>>174309363
not an argument
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>>174309175
nope

>>174309363
no
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>>174309547
Why not
Now that I think of it it only works on owls and statues?
Is that intended or what?
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>>174309584
no
>>174309537
>>174309547
get a job
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>>174309627
no

>>174309584
because IMC?
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What's the cheapest build?

As in, for poor people.
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>>174309763
pyro2>thauma2>linker2>sage
it's what shitters roll with
it's 10x more powerful than every build in game
requires less than 10m to be useful
and almost no gear thanks to thauma buffs
just go full int
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>>174309698
get a job
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do you all feed your companion(s)?
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>>174310754
I let mine eat its own feces.
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>>174306960
This is cute.
I want to molest Capy in the bath
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>>174309902
I think sapperwugu is cheaper. No need for agny.
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>>174310862
I did the same to my hamster but it eventually died. Finds out you can't let your hamster eat their own poop infinitely and you should feed him with proper food from time to time.
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Does shinobi still have those insane % dmg modifiers on ktest and is it viable now?
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>>174312430
>holding hands
CHRONOS ARE ALL SLUTS
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Why is fencer and corsair outfits so much better than dopplegangers?
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>>174311173
SapperWugu doesn't have Thaum and is therefore inferior for farming.
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>>174312627
I hope so
Since my thauma will have to be resetted into a Chrono for keep it relevant i will need to start farming more with my Corsair3, thanks kim for 315 HG too
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>>174311173
Agny is cheaper than a token and a lot of mats you can farm.
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>>174313292
Fencing was for royalty. Hence fancy outfits. Fencing actually isn't ever used for real combat. It's just for something for rich to do. They didn't wear dresses or anything too fancy when fencing. They only posed in pictures with their rapiers. Which by the way are inefficient little pencil dicks that would kill no one ever in war.

Pirates didn't look fancy at all. They basically looked like your typical hobos, but because of pirate trops they get a fancy outfit in the game. Pirates did wear eyepatches but not because their eyes were bad, but because it would help them go under deck and take the eye patch off and instantly be adjusted to the darkness.

Doppels actually did look like what they do in game. They are the most realistic ones out of all those 3.
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>>174314040
>Fencing was for royalty
You have any source on that? Because I'm pretty sure it fencing among nobles and the upper class would outnumber royalty.
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>>174314884
Dude even basic swords, armor and anything made out of iron was rare and expensive. If you owned a suit of armor, even a shitty one, you either belonged into a guard or you were royalty or upper classmen. Fencing literally was a sport from the start. There is no war where rapiers were used because they are shit.
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>>174314040
Anyone got a -fun- doppel build?
It feels like that class is all about buffing yourself to do your meme cyclone
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>>174315598
you can basically fill in whatever you want before doing full dop3. sure people go for barbarian for the slash debuff most of the time. it's not mandatory. much like fencer though there isn't much there to fill in, but I've seen high3>corsair>dop3 builds and sword3>barb>dop3 and even some rare high2>barb2>dop3. taking a catagoon rank is high tier autism but if that's fun why not.
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>>174315998
True i guess its just up to flavor

Imma just gonna do a no cyclone doppel build and have fun with that, maybe will be viable in the nu-ToS

just a question, the barb3 warcry debuff duration, does that increase any debuff you apply? Or only the barbarian ones like cleave?
Would it increase the duration of zwerchhau debuff?
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>>174316148
it increases all your debuffs but just yours, from any circle
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>imc
>competent programmers

pick none
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SR has to transcend both weapons or how does it work?
Do the SR skills only scale of his second weapons power?
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Hey guys, the plans to change combat and stats got me interested in the game again, I was wondering which of these would be better for pure support?

> Cleric2 - Diev3 - Oracle - PD2
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4117778ee.1a213a435561.11344f5a6a75.21314155617195.182a41617585

> Cleric2 - Diev3 - Oracle 3
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#411777888.1a213a435561.11344f5a6a75.2431415f6171819fa1c5

> Cleric2 - Priest3 - Chaplain - Kabba2
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#411222cff.1a213a435561.3f455164759aa5.152535.1a334551618575
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>>174317086
the new best support is paladin with all the buffs to her party skills
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>>174317220
Got any info on it? It seems like paladin is still the same in iTOS
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>>174317220
I'd also like to hear what happened to paladin.
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>>174316723
you can't make this shit up
this game man
why do we still play this shit man
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The fuck is this
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>>174318287
i got this too
>>
>cmd pop when starting ToS
>close it just because
>ToS.exe stop working
>ToS.exe won't start again
Jesus Kim.
It was just a 4 mb patch with no fixes basically
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Oh hey, they actually fixed it.

The bugged window that didn't actually affect anything unless you closed it got addressed immediately.
Meanwhile, actual bugs that affect your ability to play go unfixed for months, assuming they get fixed at all.
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>>174318905
;)
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>>174318905
Now imagine if they actually tried playing the game themselves after patching it. Revolutionary.
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>event queue
>no one around me
>can't use skills
thanks kim
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>>174292897
>ignoring potential loss is
I meant with 11 potential.
With 4 is 1.07%.
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>>174307962
CLAP DOESN'T GET EXTENDED BY SWEEPING YOU RETARD.
CLAP 5 (+1 WITH DIVINE MIGHT) IS ABSOLUTELY A MUST ON DIEV3MIKO, PLAY THE CLASS BEFORE MISSINFOING.
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>>174321332
but it does
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>>174322267
Do it doesn't, it only works on circles (cure, hayama) and statues.
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>>174322323
pretty sure clap doesn't work on hamaya
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>>174322405
Dude I meant sweeping.
Clap only works on statues.
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>>174321332
you only use sweep for ausrine anyway so who cares, going 5 levels into it is retarded
you can sweep and put ausrine down and that's all that skill will be used for
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>>174322653
>you only use sweep for ausrine anyway so who cares, going 5 levels into it is retarded
???
There's Clap written in caps near the 5.
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>>174322816
>you can't agree with a post if you reply to it
???
English your secondary language mate?
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>>174322937
No one ever mentioned going 5 points into sweeping.
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Was searching and apparently you can get the flower on other channels as well.

So to that person yesterday who said it was channel 1 only, it is not.

(pic not mines)
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>>174323056
what does that have to do with you misunderstanding me?
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>>174323190
>write unrelated crap
>why does no one understand me?!
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>>174319051
You're a madman.
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>>174323129
*giggles*
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>>174319424
It's that bug that's usually accompanied by you going sanic fast, only without the superspeed.
It just happened to occur in an instanced dungeon this time.
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>>174323129
How does the flower even work though? Can multiple channels have the flower or does it just appear in 1 channel 4 hours after it is retrieved.
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>>174323221
if someone is posting unrelated shit it's you right now
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>>174323605
yes pretty much
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>>174324024
Is there a way to check when the last flower was taken or is it a word of mouth kind of thing.
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>>174324176
Only Kim is right.
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should I play this game?
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>>174324176
It's not actually that strong though.
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>>174324694
yee
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>>174324176
Cryo + Runecaster should be allowed to do some damage.
Just because Pyro has been overnerfed doesn't mean Cryo is overpowered
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>>174324751
gesti is hot
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Am i wrong or IMC said GBL now would have been : 3 weeks of GvG and 3 weeks of dead endgame?
I am pretty sure we had our 3 weeks of ded game now where are the 3 weeks of GvG so the game maybe, just maybe though, would look less hollow?
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>>174324820
Why would people even pick rune caster if it becomes a shit combo with cryo? That's literally the only reason people get it right now.
>>
Whoever is making this https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1w96wEplRalplgC4f0TTyiYqXNZfIVZopUbTNFUX_be8/htmlview# your hunter skill factors are below the tos-ktest.neet ones.
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Why the fuck does this game have shit overlapping?

Does 1440p fuck with the scaling?
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The balance renewal is cool and all but for what purpose?
There is only Saalus to farm in this shit and you can do it with Squire2Templar2 too
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>>174328847
Shush, you! Balancing the game is the most important thing! Once all the evil OP classes are nerfed, everyone will come rushing back!
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>>174328847
>what's the purpose of trying to make things better
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>>174328847
Did you not read it? It says they are preparing the game for R9.

Rather than trying to balance the game with the current shit show of base damage and people reaching 199k caps on all grounds, they are trying to balance it so new R9 content is hard enough for us to have a challenge and R9 classes interesting enough to make a difference.

While making previous circles still matter.
>>
>still playing tree of shit
>not playing Persona 5, the GOTY of the year 2017
seriously?
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>>174329084
The changes are nice but tell me what else you have to do in this game after Saalus blessing shard farm simulator?
PvP? TBL is done by the same 10 people keeping facing each other, it's more a private fight club now and GBL is most of the time off and no one bother with open world PvP anymore
PvE? WB are dead, Blut is the only boss left that matter because retard low chance of Hasta plate and once the new HG are released he will be forgotten
ET is still the same 5man only restricted shithole where you have to optimize your party for it, literally "meta elitism: the dungeon".
Guild events are the only things cool but literally most of the guilds can't bother with them either because they don't have the numbers for doing them/too much dead for unlocking them
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>>174329230
>release R9
>only thing to do is quests
wow
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>>174306782
>>174305962
I am glad there are still Futureproof people upholding /tosg/ traditions after all this time.

Quitting was a big mistake.
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>>174329230
And what?
Rank 9 will still be Saalus blessing shard simulator with expansion of Dina/DP mandatory Warlock silver farming to substain your meta build because otherwise your 5man ET party can't clear it
They need to really do a whole game renewal
Remove Neutrality
GBL without the month downtime we have now
ET rised to 10man and maybe with a 15man mode too, yeah this is WoW like shit but it's way better than the ET we have now
Actually make WB worth their shit
More appealing Guild Events reward, need more than mystical cube bait recipe in a single event
More than a single endgame dungeon
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>>174328847
>>174329569
If you find nothing to do in the current game, then yeah, the changes won't do anything for you.
People still do play the game outside Saalus though, so even if you find them meaningless, there are those who enjoy it.

The revamp is a a big step towards improving the game, and no one is saying they shouldn't make new content.
But any step forward is good, you can just come back when they release the content you want.
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>>174330886
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I quit this game the first day it was released on Steam due to server lag, gold selling megaphone spam, and peru. Should I try it out again, and will I receive any rewards for being old?
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>>174331162
You receive rewards for being new, not old.
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>>174331162
you better make another steam account for use the new accounts powerlevelling event
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>>174330960

is she ok
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>>174330886
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>>174331202
>>174331329
B-but I want loyalty rewards for not playing!!!
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>>174331562
no, get fucked
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>>174331646
I feel so oppressed right now
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>>174331496
all OW players are shitty normies, I wish that game never existed.
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>>174331562
They said they'll make an event for returning players later.
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>he still plays Tree of Slavior
did you remember to do daily 0/12 runs of Saalus?
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>>174332462
I am not doing 12 runs anymore
I am 2/6 now
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>>174325373
You are wrong. They never said that.
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>>174329569
You're arguing against yourself.

>TBL is deserted because nobody likes being one shot while doing one damage, so what's the point of fixing it?
>GBL was only rewarding for top guilds which dominated a game of queue dodging, so why fix it?
>World bosses are dead because nobody wants to spend over an hour grinding down their HP for talt, so why would anyone want to make them take less than an hour?
>World boss loot sucks, so why would they change the itemization system?
>ET is full of "meta elitism" so why would they want to make more classes viable?
>Most guilds can't do guild events, so why would they make it easier to do them?

>>174330154
>They need to really do a whole game renewal
>They do it
>The balance renewal is cool and all but for what purpose?
We don't need more fantasy libraries.
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>>174334392
>>World bosses are dead because nobody wants to spend over an hour grinding down their HP for talt, so why would anyone want to make them take less than an hour?
They are going to be harder to kill right now
>>World boss loot sucks, so why would they change the itemization system?
HG kills their loot
>>ET is full of "meta elitism" so why would they want to make more classes viable?
Nothing is gonna change but pyros will be replaced by Elememe
DievMikos are going to stay there as long Ausrine is in game and so their pocket Krivis
CryoChrono will be even more mandatory than now
"Meme" set ups are already a thing and they works btw, just of course they aren't as good
as the meta approved shit of steamrolling
>>Most guilds can't do guild events, so why would they make it easier to do them?
Like WBs they are going to become harder and the reason guilds don't do them is they need to get lots of people online for them and most important they lack the talt donations for unlock the worth to do ones
>>
>They are going to be harder to kill right now
400m hp blut to 20m hp now.
>HG kills their loot
new HG loot sucks
>Nothing is gonna change but pyros will be replaced by Elememe
You mean pyro elememe which is something new that never had the chance to shine
>pocket Krivis
Krivis will be nowhere near an ET party
>CryoChrono will be even more mandatory than now
But right now cryo chronos are shit tier and no one takes them over a linker chrono because aus + melstis require no cc
>need to get lots of people online for them
play the game, the more people that go to guild raid the harder it gets
>>
>>174334392

>tbl is deserted
Only in your dead server. There's like 10 meta builds one can play and at least 3 viable per base classes, no excuse.
>GBL
IMC giving TP was a mistake
>world boss sux
Agreed.
>ET is this
ET is shit, but you can't say "elitism" when anyone can make a krivis/chrono with 2m worth of gear and do the job. Even for DPS is okay because Agny is cheap and you only need a stage 5 staff to carry if your dievpd contributes as well or your SR.

And that's 40f. No one care about 40f.

25, 30, 35f are so easy to farm with melstisausrine pyro cheese that is not even funny.

>guild

yeah, they need to fix a lot of things
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>400m hp blut to 20m hp now.
In ktest only probably or just bugged, like guild event bosses stats
>new HG loot sucks
https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/items/533318
https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/items/532205
And this is only about Hasta vs new plate alone, the weapons are only slightly weaker than practonium purples versions
>Krivis will be nowhere near an ET party
Meltis is still one of the best support spell in the game, duration cap means the Krivis will actually do more than holding meltis, more things like doing additional DPS with stomcall
>You mean pyro elememe which is something new that never had the chance to shine
could be, but Pyro is gonna be a filler in ele rotation andf not the core
>play the game, the more people that go to guild raid the harder it gets
you still need lots of people because you can't pug.
a 5 man guild most likely won't do any event and the HP of the boss increase a lot by single member to the point unless you go with a very optimized and high geared party going 5 or 10 man is pretty much the same
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>>174337696
People getting one shot is only a TBL problem, and not even the main one
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>>174332462
Tch, I've been playing since the last closed beta and I only have 2 out of 5 characters of a high enough level to even be able to run saalus. I'm not neet just to work all day.
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Do the reward tomes from event tick down when you're logged out or not in queue like the old 4x tomes?
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>>174332462
Actually, I'm 0/16.

Fuck.
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>tfw didn't played ToS for a week already
feeling good
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Pyro is kill?
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>>174339876
no
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new player here what class to play
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>>174315270
>>174314040
Sounds downright wrong
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>>174340183
How would you like to kill monsters?
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>>174336345
World bosses are having their stats cut sharply.
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>>174340651
the best and cutest way possibly, preferably with magic!
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>>174338335
Unacceptable!
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>>174339770
Those shards aren't going to farm themselves.
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>>174340762
The best for DPS, cost-efficiency and farming ability is currently Pyromancer2 Linker2 Thaumaturge2 X. You'll have giant limbs and will kill monsters with little bumping fireballs. 'X' could be Sage (most picked), Pyro3 or Enchanter (cutest outfit in Wizard tree).
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>>174340183
Pick whatever's most aesthetically pleasing to you, and look up info on it.
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>>174340651
Magical Melee
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>>174342947
Only options for that are Chaplain, Druid, and Janky Wizard dagger linker builds.
>>
Why does featherfoot use a dagger in its moveset but doesn't get bonuses to wielding daggers or anything?
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>>174343891
They don't, they use bones
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>>174340183
Runecasters have the best outfit.
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>>174344570
The ultimate meme combo is the fact frenzy now gives you attack speed for you to stack with double weapon assault on your lightning fast full dex barbsair build.
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>>174345650
Good luck having enough ping for that
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>>174345949
DWA isn't ping dependent, that's a good thing.
If you can play current Archer3 QS3 meme machinegun then you can play full dex barb, and in turn you can play full dex barbsair.
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>>174344570
Attribute that makes Giant Swing target up to 10 enemies at once when?
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>>174346107
no one on klaipedia can even play current qs3 to its potential
The pings are just too high unless you live by the servers directly
Everytime people compare korean qs3 videos with theirs they notice how much faster they attack and thats only coming from low ping

Your attackspeeds for normal attacks are capped by ping and getting more attackspeed won't help you shit in american servers
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>>174346491
In EU unles you are from Russia you can play QS3 korean like
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>>174346491
>klaip
silute is returning to hueland this week, mmm sweet 30ms ping
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>>174346628
>unles you are from Russia
but the server is in Germanistan.
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>>174346628
I find that hard to believe and I bet you just havent seen comparison videos with korean QS3
I remember a german friend telling me that EU servers are not as optimal as they should be
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>>174346861
I have 30ms and i am not even in Germany, unless you need 2ms for enjoy QS3 then it can be great for me
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>>174347001
You need sub 10 ms for sure
Enjoy having all that attackspeed wasted on you
30 is high

korean games are made for korean online infrastructure and all have that kind of ping
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>>174347087
30ms means you could send and receive over 30 attack req and ack packets within a second. I'm yet to see a class that attacks that fast.
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>>174347423
lol like I said you have no idea
30s is average ping here in america too and people always had the problem of not attacking as fast as the QS3 in the videos of korean players

Dex increasing attackspeed so high will only widen that gap
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>>174339876
No. Its not kill.
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>>174347850
The funny thing with attack speed is that it's not as strictly ping dependent as you think it is.
There are many factors affecting it, I don't know what exactly. I have 600-800ms average ping to the test server and sometimes I'm attacking like once a second, then other times when the mob is in a specific position I'm attacking 4 times a second even though my ping never goes under 0.400, which means it can't be strictly related to ping. There must be a sweet spot where animation delay and connection delay syncs up or whatever.
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>>174348406
That sweetspot is called living in korea where they have extremely good internet across the country
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>tfw yuro who fell for the "play in klaipeda, fedi is dead" meme
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>>174348779
who cares? QS is shit
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>>174348779
It's not a meme though Fedi is actually dead.
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>>174348536
We fucking get it already.
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>>174348779
i got better from EU to NA but im not playing archers, so it does not matter to me.
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>>174348923
t. burger
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>>174349291
look at the op image
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>>174348923
So is Klaipedia?
Wake the fuck up you delusional burgertard
Only alive servers now are Telsia and Silute

as alive as this dead games gets
>Klaipedians think they have more than 300 people playing on their server
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>>174349384
>all those 0.00
Yeah, really accurate.
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>>174349291
we call them Steamed Hams
>>
i've been wanting to pick this game up for ages but it looks like the devs are morons
when will we get a GOOD game that is similar to this??
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>>174350342
You're not getting an AAA game that takes risks to differentiate itself from WoW, it's this or nothing.
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>>174350342
Videos games are fucking dead do you not understand?
Anyone who plays videogames in their freetime is subhuman and should be happy with the scraps that videogame devs throw at them

Grow up already you useless manchild
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>>174350342
>the devs are morons
They are slowly improving.
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>>174284963
please respond
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>>174350856
The Monk Hammer
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>>174350856
At rank 5 your equips don't matter much, you're still in 5 hammer+red gems+cafrisun territory. If you can't get a 5 hammer with 5 level 5 red gems get a generic level appropriate quest hammer or Suncus Maul if 170+.
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>>174350342
Devs were morons, not anymore. But they have a shitheap of problems to fix now.
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>>174349436
Varena is alive and thriving.
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>>174351029
Thanks, I'm missing 2 red level 5, what is a good place to farm?

>>174350903
Isn't the monk hammer level 170?
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>>174354191
>Isn't the monk hammer level 170?
Yeah
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Put your faith in Him.
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>>174355463
It actually has been put in him
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How are the guilds in klaipeda? is any of them alive or good?
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>>174356872
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>>174356872
Join Futureproof.
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>>174357345
how is futureproof doing nowadays? can you post a screenshot of the guild tab right now?
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>>174357391
dead
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>>174357391
I don't actually play the game anymore.
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>>174357471
how dead are we talking?
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>>174357532
pretty damn dead but might see a revival soon
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>>174357704
what about the other guilds?
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>>174357740
CnL is active and alive but very full. As for cute i have no idea and i rarely see any of their members so it might be like FP.
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>>174357740
The current situation with Klaipeda guilds seems to be:

>Futureproof is the former pvp glory guild, but when pvp died all of them quit, the few left turned it into a newbie-friendly guild for new /tosg/ people

>CuteNotLewd does all the high-level stuff, always full

>cute is for ERP
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Futureproof is recruiting
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>>174357854
cute spiraled into doomposting circlejerk and everyone started "taking a break"
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>>174357968
>cute is for ERP
can't ERP with 1 person online
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How long should I grind in truffles? Not that I really need it much but what range is "too retarded"? 240+?
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>>174358846
there's an xp reset at 236
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>>174357968
>>174357854
CnL is less /tosg/ than Lotus at this point
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>>174359242
can you tell me about lotus? were they from /tosg/ at some point?
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>tfw 250 badges from truffles
They will be all given in when I turn in this quest aren't they?

>>174358846
You can easily stay to 250 until you can just go storage

But depending on your build its probably faster for you to quest past 241 or so
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>>174359430
yeah you lose all of them when you turn them in
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>>174359289
lotus current leader shitposts here and they let in some ohayou-cnl merge refugees
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>>174359553
Who's the current leader?
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>>174359242
That's a big exaggeration but there is some truth in it.
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>>174359587
voxandra, isn't it?
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>>174359289
Thats the joke
Lotus never was tosg but CnL now is full but the anons are the minority
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>>174359242
Even Crimson was more tosg than CnL at some point.
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>>174359653
TOP LEL
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>>174359672
The worst things since some of CnL are tosg and sometimes mention tosg, these retarded shitters actually infested the general with forumniggers that joined their guild and came over
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>>174359872
Cats was never in CnL.
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>>174349453
It means the players from that specific country are so few to be irrlevant to the statistic
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>>174358579

cute is alive! Alive!
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>>174359242
>lunnarrabbit joined CnL
really makes you think
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>Futureproof
>Tries letting non-/tosg/ people in during kOpen Beta because there simply wasn't enough English speakers to make a full guild
>JohnLocke happens
>cull the problem at the root, no more outsiders allowed

>Other guilds
>invites strangers in iTOS, when though there are anons that want to join their guilds but cannot
>normies start posting here, no regards for etiquette
>people like Voxandra and 4jane happen

Really makes you think.
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>>174360368
BRRabbit is tosg! TOSG!
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>>174360949
looks like he is because he joined tosg guild :^)
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>>174360368
crimson was tosg though
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>>174360815
The real killer was Discord
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>>174361062
Yep. What purpose did it serve except to alienate anyone who isn't in muh inner circle? We had 3 group chats in the form of guilds and a server wide whisper chat.
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>>174361016
A tosg joining a non-tosg guild doesn't make cnl automatically tosg.
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You garbage are really humoring me
We don't even want to be a "tosg" guild you realize that? I don't know why we're still in the OP but we do not even recruit any new people from tosg because they are useless and spots are limited. We only recruit good people now, tosg or not.
And I guarantee no one cares about being tosg here, we just want people that aren't shitters like half this general is
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Can someone tell me where this truffle grind spot is located?
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>>174361558
Alameth forest
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>>174361062
There is nothing wrong with Discord itself, it's just that the original /tosg/ Discord only had the elitist people from.....what was their name again, I forgot? You know, the people who only recruited "hardcore" world boss killers and people who were rank6 180+ when the game launched, but then faded into obscurity immediately.

The current Discord channels(Drinking Club, Cute Not Lewd) only have people from friendly guilds, so there's no problem.

>>174361269
I did a lot of things specifically to avoid an inner-circle from forming. What I learned was that they're unavoidable, but nobody really cares unless you're actively excluding people from it.
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>>174361269
To organize things when people are away/offline and keep in touch with those who quit the game mostly. It's pretty useful.
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What is a good templar build?
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>>174362257
Nothing matters its just going to be a utility char for the guild

Personally I prefer to pair it with squire3 for the extra character slot value
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>>174362419
>or the extra character slot value
the what?
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>>174363683
The additional slot value of your useless templar character

By having it squire3 you pair it with another useless character that is only good as utility therefore you have 2 utility classes that you can use to create guilds, camps and a squire shop in only one character slot
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>>174363768
I see, do Squires make a lot of money? Guessing not since they´re dime a dozen.
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>>174363889
No squires are pretty pointless unless you want a base camp and squire food for whatever reason.
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>>174359430
What quests are those 250 monster badges for?
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i made an account a while ago and played it for like 20min, should I make a new one for the Recruitment bonus or will there be one for returning players as well?
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>>174364046
They're from the event quest that you can get at that event board

>>174364140
nothing for returning ones, make a new one
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>>174364140
new one

if there's an event for returning players, it's a win-win
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>>174363889
Squires don't make a lot of money but considering the investment (couple minutes once a week) it's a welcome little extra passive income.
Many people won't bother going for the non-profit squires. Many people won't bother going back to town for a squire. That's where your profit comes from.
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Whats a good highlinder build?
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How good will defense breaking skills such as pelta3 and highlanders be in the new damage formula?
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>>174365635
Very important I think, most mobs were given higher defense and it's a percent reduction now to your damage.
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Is there a limit to how many times I can do that shitty dice game at Maven Abbey?
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>>174365827
Yup it seems like it

I have a really hard time considering between getting armor break and barb3 for increased duration on slash debuffs

Feel like the armor reduction can actually win out
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When can I start grinding truffles?
And why do they have 60k hp when Green Edigos only have 6k? What kind of logic is that?
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>>174361505
> we just want rmt'ing scum that keep feeding the chinks money and killing the game
> muh endgame soul mickey


k y s
y
s
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>>174366185
You can start at 200 I think without xp penalties. Alameth is the map that introduces one super mob per map, it'll be like that for the rest of the game and gradually maps will become all super mobs.
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>>174366185
at about 211 because they are level 221. Better get comfy for the next 20-30 levels if yo dont plan on doing maps.
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>>174366185
Mobs HP will only get higher from there, most will even have boss tier HP once you reach lvl300 or so. Killing one mob can be a traversy if you dont have good gear and a good dps class
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>>174366185
they literally die in seconds to any minimally invested gear/attributes parties no challenge at all
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Who Plague Doctor 2 here?
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>>174365635
Take a look and decide for yourself

I've made some comparisons with different def values for the new formula

This is using their posted log10 formula with different values for the mysterious 0.x variable
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>>174366514
I can even kill them alone with Hamaya but these fuckers hit like a godamn truck (2500 per hit). I don't know if it's because I'm just outside the level range (I'm level 210 and the monsters names appear in red) or because I'm wearing shit gear (Tyla Plate set).
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>>174367510
Its a combination of them all
They do strike type damage and wreck plate armor if you're low defense

You're also below level range so that increases the defense disparity even more

In reality though you should be able to kite them since they're slow ass melee
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>>174367095
So the 0.1 to 0.9 is for the 0.x part of the formula right? Still no clue what affects that?
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>>174360815
>no regards for etiquette
When did we become a reddit
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>>174361505
t. plasnazica
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>>174367935
Yup its that and no idea

They just apparently said its going to be between 0.1 and 0.9
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>>174367935
My guess is level difference factor. It is the only thing that could amplify or reduce damage so drastically.
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>>174364204
I bet the returning players event is something like you must have been offline for 3 months so if you've logged in to see whats up you're fucked.
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>>174361505
14/88 brother
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>>174361505
Spots can't be that limited after Ilyas and Paksiw left following Plasnazica's meltdown because "w-wah I don't want you guys partying with 3jane, I will k-kick you if you do...!!"
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>>174369798
They're limited for good players that want to achieve something in this game
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>dragoon build

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1ff.142a3a4155

is this ok? I ant that cool attribute for Gae Bolg but it's only 2%. Do you guys know if the debuff from the skill gets stronger with levels or is just extra time?
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>>174370283
Its shit right now
Gae Bulg is shit
Meanwhile Dragontooth and Serpentine and Soar are all multihits that scale well
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>>174370283
It's just extra time.
After the rework gay bulge will also hit harder than dethrone so it's not bad, but right now yeah it's bad.
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>>174370152
>achieve something
>playing ToS
If you want to achieve something, how about doing something productive with your life instead of wasting countless hours on this shitty game?

I hope you're not a NEET. If you are then please find a job or go to school and stop being a leech on society. Years down the line you will look back at all this time you've wasted playing ToS and MMOs in general and say, "Wow I could have done a lot more with that time. Thousands of hours down the drain. I could have spent that time learning something new or picking up the phone and calling my parents. I probably could have spent a lot of time with them too, but now they're long dead and I'm old and alone."
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>>174368064
>>174368124
Hopefully they release some more info Thursday.
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What are the guild plants for?
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>>174370848
>This much projecting.
How about you stop pretending to be somehow better than anyone on this board.
The fact that you have to go to such lengths to belittle some just speaks ill of your own life.
Now go do saalus like a good little boy.
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>>174371000
You can make special pots that boost certain types of damage(vs players only?)
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>>174370420
>>174370529

Well... If it's just extra time and the attribute is garbage (shame, I like the special zone effect that it creates), I will keep it lv 1. I can prolong the duration with Warcry anyway.

Now the question is: Dragontooh or Soar?
How bad is the casting time of Dragontooth at higher levels? Mind you that I'm barbarian and not hoplite so a higher Soar under Cleave+Serpentine debuff is interesting too. Serpentine seems the best option to max since well, everything we do starts with Serpentine, it does more hits than the others, no casting time and the debuff is applied in the first hit already.

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1ff.142a314a55
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>>174371154
I am better than no one. I only hope that person carefully considers their time and makes them attempt to improve their circumstances and find meaning in their life.

Ultimately, ToS and games are a hobby. Putting forth so much time and effort to achieve things in the game requires sacrifices in other aspects of your life. Never let hobbies consume your life. You may be addicted and not even know it.
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>>174369798
But they were right. No tosg should talk to 5jane/ If you are automatched in a mission your duty is to leave immediately.
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>>174325602
Updated. Thanks for noticing that error.
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>>174371478
Ones life and hobbies have exactly the same amount of meaning as they themselves think it has. We are all gonna die at some point anyway.
Spending time gaming has same amount of value as spending it doing something else a person enjoys.
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>>174371478
You need to stop projecting your dissatisfaction of your own circumstances

You don't know how peoples circumstances are
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>no patch notes for ktest yet
Come on, Kim. Fix your fuckups.
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>>174372771
People can project anything they want this isint a safe space. if you can't handle the heat go play wizard 101
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>>174373461

>People can project anything they want

Then why can't I project fireball?
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>>174373461
lol I really don't care
You're the one embarrassing yourself /shrug
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Where2cop windia rod recipe?
Not seeing on the market
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>>174373461
Then why can't I project guildmates
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>>174373461
>there are more active players in wizard 101 than in your shitty server
kek
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>>174373817

290 dungeon, second boss (armaos)
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>saw a HoG recipe listed for 65mil in the marketplace earlier
fucking jews
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>>174374340
Oh I never seen that one
How to unlock it
I cleared the dungeon before but haven't seen him
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>>174374697
>I stood at bees for a whole 2 weeks why can't I buy it with that money?
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>>174374697
>>174375123
One of the problems caused by easy money influx like bees is that things are never priced at what they should be, because everyone who has something to sell(specially if it's valuable) expects their buyers to be abusing those easy methods.

Tree of Savior was designed around a concept that would prevent inflation from spinning out of control(that was Ragnarok Online's biggest flaw), but at the same time they turn a blind eye AFK farming, making the whole point moot.
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>>174374697
>>174375123
We need more grim reapers on bees
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>>174375123
>>174375514
>>174375595
no more Bzzz soon*tm
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>>174377113
How come?

Maybe SPR changes will make skeletons actually be able to afk in even more profitable locations like hunting grounds
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holyshit this patch is taking forever.
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>>174377198
you remember/saw these "Giant" mobs in hunting grounds we got now?

they will spawn on all maps. pretty common.
>double HP (normal bee HP increased too)
>more dmg
>more defense-stats
>they use freeze, sleep, stun, stop, armor break, and other cancer (i think bleed/dot too)
>can spawn groups of mobs
and you cant take 1s anymore. no matter the gear

no necro will survive them for more than 1-2 hours
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>>174374823

Here, anon. You need to kill this specific orb.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPjl4hKzTEw
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>>174377814
ty friend
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>>174377198
>Maybe SPR changes
lol no
I made a full SPR level 280+ necro 3.
My skeletons died in 2-3 boss attacks.
My skeletons died to truffles 60 levels below me.
They can't mitigate damage to 1s anymore unless you're fighting popolions or something.
They were hitting 800-1000 per attack, and after the change you don't see weak mobs with 4-6k hp, when a boss or an elite mob spawns mobs they all have 20k+ hp and hit 200-400 damage on you and your skeletons, and that's with decent gear.
The only thing you will afk with a necro is pre-100 maps, if even that.
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>>174377508
>Lv 325
>Armor+Shield better than Hasta Plate and +8
>even Aspersion Lv17
>Bees do 60-110
>Giants do 350-4xx
>on top of that.. frozen or stunned or armor broken
maybe less than 1 hours to death
and >>174378885
>>
>yuros now sleeping
>thread talking about the game
>no more guild drama shitposting
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>>174379365
More like americans coming home from their desk job where they shitpost all day so they can mindlessly grind in their tos job having no spare time to post
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>>174379497
it's past midnight, take an advice from your fellow yurocuck
>>174370848 and go back to sleep like a good boy
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>>174378885
That's disappointing actually, I was hoping Spr Necros and Sorcs would actually be a thing.
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>>174380615


sorc is doing well
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So this have me 3.5 levels with an x8 tome. I have read that people grind around 10 levels there with no tome. Am i killing those littlethings too slowly? Also werent overkill numbers supposed to give you that much bonus xp?
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>>174344570
Woah that's neat.
The barbarian giant swing's ending part usually throws the enemy away from you due to centrifugal force BUT due to the Corsair Hook it limited the the thing and instead created a recoil so it pulled it back to you while knocked down as well.

That should be nice for PvP then.
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What Necros can't afk farm anymore? Why the fuck did I even made an alt account?
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>>174382006
Are you retarded? No one grinds demon prison anymore, it's not needed.
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>>174382006
1) tomes outside of dungeons and missions are pretty bad
2) no one grinds dp anymore
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>>174380615
Sorc is fine, just necro is still crap.
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>>174382175
Evidently i am. Well, down the drain goes the tome.
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>>174382142
Since Giant Swing is getting an attribute to do more damage to enemies you hit when swinging it, I wonder if you could also use Squire's arrest to forcibly keep the enemies in the area of effect.
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>>174382006
Dont grind under Lv200. That is what we did in closed beta and 100% not needed and probably ineffective.
You also dont have to grind after 200 but its kinda good exp at some maps.

Overkills do nothing now.
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>>174382142
>That should be nice for PvP then.
I thought it didn't work against players?
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>>174382006
Stop reading 1-2 year old 'guides' and shits
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>>174382440
>Snowrolling with Giant Swing.webm
It's glorious. It works. And it might be viable.
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>We don't want DPK
>Ok here's RNG but we adjusted the rates so it's the same average drop chance and we left in a fail safe of increasing drop rate
>wtf new system sucks sometimes I have to kill more mobs than before

I love the forums, cry more you filthy casuals.
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>>174382175
>>174382270
>>174382363
>>174382606
Thanks for the advice, guys, i think i've learned my lesson.
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>>174382903
Some warlocks farm dp for silver, see if you can leech one. Unless, of course, you're in Klaipeda.
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>>174382971
Not him, but why? Are Americans greedy fucks that won't let you join?
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Should I bother maxing the Enchant shop first or should I just get mdef buffs and start leveling Enchant Lightning?
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>>174383226
No the meme is that Klaipedia is dead (its not)
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>>174383616
People only use m.def buff. Get that and then max Lighting.

>>174383226
memes my man
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>>174383616

mdef buff is the best, then max lightning for that power spike
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>>174384042
>>174384095
That's what I thought. Thanks!
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>>174382356
You can't use other attacks while using Arrest though. Guess it's IMC's idea of a trade-off for being able to hold down and debuff boss enemies with it.
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>>174384503

CUTE
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>>174385479

Arrest also can snare much more targets than Iron Hook
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>>174385618
And has the lingering slow debuff attribute. Honestly, Arrest is pretty damn good, but not on its own which is a shame, especially since enemies can still attack unlike with Iron Hook.
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>>174385883

I knew a guy who played pvp as murm, his build was sw 2 pelt 1 rodelero 2 corsair 1 squire 1 murm 1.

It worked well, high kick is overrated as fuck, murm skillset is enough (and you still have slithering) for the kills and no no expect the 'second' hook. Also, the squire girl outfit is really cute.
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Where can I get the Legwyn Family's Plate set?
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>>174386287
Can you make a full hooker build?

Like barbarian Giant Swing.
Corsair Hook
and Squire Arrest?

Support swordsman.
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Some old ktos players still around?
Would you mind DL and patch the ktest client overnight or so? Please contact me
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https://tos.neet.tv/attributes/215001

Uhmmm, what is this for?
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>>174387114
Make a useable item "Bomb".
I didnt try that but people say "like a autoattack with the dmg or patt+matt. it sucks".
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>>174386287
Nice.
>the squire girl outfit is really cute
It really is.

>>174386486
From world boss Necroventer at the Residence of the Fallen Legwyn Family.
https://tos.neet.tv/npcs/57496
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>>174387449
>dmg of patt+matt
ops
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should i play this mmo?
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>>174387682
No but you should post more russian catos
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>>174387749
why?
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>>174387682
If you like cute and want to have fun.
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>>174387449
Oh... Too bad this is the only attribute for Enchanter.
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>>174387878
Because they look comfy
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>>174387682
The Developer is literally and certified retarded, but they try to be better recently.
Balance is very bad.
Population is low.
Optimization is also bad, got a little improved a while ago. Maybe you can have decent FPS.
There is not much exp or level grind. But a lot of currency+item grind at high lvls. Mostly in daily instance run on multiple characters
Its not like RO, even if it looks a little like it.
Overall a shitty game, but can be fun.

>>174387878
Like in many generals.. there are a lot of people hating the game here, some of them didnt even quit yet, and they shitpost all day like braindead nigga monkeys.
But there are also some good people here.
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>>174387486
How do I farm world boss?
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>>174388235
>>174388331
Ok, thank you! I will give this game a try either way because I am bored and a NEET
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>>174389235
the game might be just for you kot bratan
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>>174389020
You can't, really. They generally spawn once every four hours after being killed, and killing any world boss gives a debuff that lasts either 8 or 12 hours (i forget which it is) and the debuff prevents you from getting any more world boss cubes in that time.

However, anyone who's in a party with any of the top 5 dps on a world boss can get a cube. So if you have lots of friends or nice people, you could get a lot of cubes at once, and they're rerollable. But the cubes also have junk like talt and other things.

But realistically, no one farms them much anymore because of the debuff, and it's easier to just go for alternative gear. Most world boss stuff is outdated and not that great.
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>>174389625
Oh I see, shame.

Thank you.
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>>174389876
The developers are thinking about ways of making world bosses more relevant though in the future.

Maybe giving them gear or cards that are relevant through out the whole game. Kinda like RO world boss drops.

Heck even unique silly hats will make people want to kill ehm again.
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>>174389625
Only half correct.
Many/some low level bosses dont give that debuff.

Im not sure if you can get a cube while having that debuff if you are in a party with people who dont have it.

The Debuff timer runs while you are offline or play other chars. Just write down spawn+kill times and farm with many alts. Easy at low bosses.

Some lower bosses are still farmed sometimes or a lot.
Windrunners and free cards (and some other trash to seel) are always nice.

This >>174386486 looks like useless shit tho. Why you want that?
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Completing necromancer's advancement quest should result in a permaban.
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So I have to admit, this is my first time playing PD1 so I suck at it, but damn is this class powerful as fuck. Only problem is I can't do any debuffs as a Diev/Miko meme.

I hear it gets much better at circle2. I'm saving up points for instant black death and dumping 7m into the attributes. This class is fun and I'm easily soloing every content and even the 230 dungeon with ease, alone. Diev is just insanely powerful.

In grind groups I noticed you don't have time to do shit.
>ok pack of mobs
>slow totem for debuffs
>inci-
>and they dead
Still, fun as fuck. Wish incinerate wasn't such a low distance skill and what am I supposed to do with pademonium? I have no debuffs to spread.

Did I a mistake with diev instead of bokor? At least bokor has debuffs to spread.
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>>174390154
soon
>>174377508
>>174378885
>>174379257
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>>174390237

Cure is a debuff.

Deprotection zone is a debuff.

Laima (slow) is a debuff.
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>>174390360
I didn't level deprotection zone because I'm a noob.

Cure is nice but most mobs just die to it before I can spread incineration.

Laima is what I use all the time but it's such a high cd.
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>>174390237

OH, another thing. At PD 2 you get poison gas so things will be much easier. And you can spread the poison with pandemic (better than the autospread).
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>>174390237
You shouldnt really need incineration pre-PD2 for regular monsters

Most stuff dies to heal and cure
In parties others will probably dps and in missions it actually works
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>>174390118
Which ones don't? I know Bleak Chapparition still does and it's only level 42.

Last I heard you can still help and be one of the top dps, but you yourself won't get the cube.
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>>174390118
>This >>174386486 looks like useless shit tho. Why you want that?

Didn't know, but I want a tiger mask tho
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>>174390828
Good taste my man
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Can objects with 0 potential be traded?
I had someone who wanted my to reskin something for him, but it was 1 potential, so I was worried about being able to give it back when done, and I can't keep up with the changes IMC makes to the trade rules.
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>>174391171
I think not
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>>174391171
I think, No.
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>>174386767
>hooker build
teehee
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I fucking hate this buggy game. Often I have to reinstall the game since it doesn't want to open after a crash.
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Worth playing or is it still p2w garbage?
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>>174391481
it was never really pay to win
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>>174391450
Something's wrong with your computer.
That has never literally happened to me.

Maybe you're not installing it incorrectly?
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>>174391481
its even more p2w nowadays it was never p2w to start
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>>174391215
>>174391247
That's what I thought. It would've sucked to screw the guy out of his own weapon. Thanks for the replies.
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>>174391171
>>174391632
But trades with weapons and equipment don't reduce potential anymore right?
At least between token users.
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>tfw GM Blue Daisy buffs and likes you
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>>174392016
But briquetting does, and I dunno what the rules are about 0 potential.
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>>174392093
Is that what a Mia orgasm looks like?
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>>174392839
No.
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>>174390952
It's from a world boss right? you know his closest respawn location?
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>>174394169
wait that is for the white one, shit I need a scout scan for that.
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>>174394284
Supposedly you can use metal detector in medal shop, never tried it though.
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>>174394686
Will try, there is a specific location to use?
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>>174392093
I've heard of squirters but that's ridiculous
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>>174395228
There's an exact location and don't try the metal detector is too expensive and I'm not sure.
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>>174395541
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCF3FzgXhqw

WHY IS SO EXPENSIVE!?
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this game is boring

I can't find any fun in it anymore
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>>174396113

take a time. the game isn't supposed to be the resolution of your life
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>>174396175

it's a boring game though, why bother with that kind of attitude
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I earned this blogpost.
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>>174396682
>9000 gimmick Points
Absolute madman.

Have a sexy animu pick for your efforts.
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>>174397992
>nipple
bye
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DEGENERATE FAGGOT POSTING CP
MODS MODS MODS
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>>174399372
You don't belong here
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Does the Miko Clap increase duration of Goddess Ausurine statue?
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>>174397992
>copy
>paste
>mirror
>change color
>attach different hair
fucking shit 'art'
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>>174399767
Here have some more since I think you missed when this meme was around.
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Mechanically what's the difference between magic attack and elemental attack for hats on a caster?
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>>174400227
Magic attack gets reduced by magic def.

Elemental attack do not get reduced by magic def but fluctuate in strength depending on the element you're hitting it at.

This is much more specially true for the upcoming new re-balance.
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>>174400123
a /a/ meme? fuck /a/
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>>174400381
There there. Here. I'll keep posting more till you calm down.
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>>174400464
well, i like ass and tiddies, so its not that bad.
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>>174396563
don't play it then?
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I love lolis, but I still called the mod.

Have some old beta previews that never happened.
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>>174400352
>>174400227

If your matk+m.amp roll don't surpass enemy mdef, your elemental damage will be useless (happens a lot on the pvp, per example).
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Good old times.

Then my gleader inverted into his own anus and became a shitposter.
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>>174400889

kek
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This is fine
One cube 2 oranges
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>>174401538

>2x dagger
>>
>heathran badge

will this help me level faster or at least fill me with some exp cards? I'll kys my own myself if I grind 10 more minutes of storage. I still can't believe we don't have enough cards from r7 to r8, even filling the holes with mercenary runs.
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>>174401538
>wasting his own money on rng shit
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>>174402362
>I will never try anything that's not 100% without risk
Ok. Keep farming that silver to buy my recipes then ;^)
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>>174402539
>buy my recipies then
don't have use for daggers
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>>174402239
>>174402362
well
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>>174402806
Hahaha nice one you comfy rodent
Salty bitchers btfo so hard hahaha
Man I imagine these kids foaming at their mouth right now
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>>174402806
I don't get it, are those good/desirable?
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>>174402362
I only did 290 dungeon so far today, my aspersion have yet to run off too
It's true most of the time you get nothing from these cubes but with thauma cheating you don't lose any silver
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>>174402970
The cannon is only for one class but the Skull Smasher is the best weapon for a ton of classes currently. After rebalance I think it'll only be wanted by Inquisitoirs and Druids, but current SS is 40mill or more.
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>>174402970
Cannonn recipe? No, maybe you can make 2m with luck
Skull Smasher? easy 60 milllions silver or an anon mother worth in shards
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>>174403045
>>174403069
Well shit, I had no idea. Good rolls!
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>>174402806
How long does it take you to clear that with vienazi mace?
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>>174403552
aprox 12 minutes per run
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>>174403589
How do you deal with the mage doggos?
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>>174403652
I don't
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>>174403752
lol?
That silver is really high for not doing the mage rooms
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>>174403785
I did 3/3 no mages+ 1 entry reset rush with first pack of dogs
Thats what i gained, you can remove the 120kish silvers from the rush
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Hi, I'm interested in making an endgame PvE archer, in the hopes that I can get into a badass solmiki group. Is archer2 - sapper 3 - falconer 3 viable? Is there a better option for an endgame archer who doesn't want to be a SR?
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF-h4Qo3RTM
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>>174404915
pls dont lie to me Mr Kim...
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>>174402806
get a job
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>>174404915
>Monsters no longer run away
>Legendary items
>High level HGs
Thank you based Kim
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>>174400692
what game is this
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>>174404915
>Solo game improvements for better dailies
>titanforging
I am getting to play WoW without having to resub
Good job Kim
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>>174404915
>ET faggots only get higher tier shit again
>nothing about saalus
>new hunting grounds is going to be cubes aka no thauma cheating
>new emote pack who cares
>world boss changes
>pvp changes
aka nothing new in this video that we didn't already know

game not saved
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>>174404915

>can only get new HG gear from cubes
>it's probably going to be some insane DPK rate for the cube and 0.5% for the gear itself
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>>174404915
Good to know i will have to farm HG forever now
First to get the shit i want from RNG cube on sure as fuck DPK drop rate
Second, need to appraising the shit of them until i get a good roll
Appraiser looks to be the most profitable shop, going to make thousands of silvers/day
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how the fuck I do 100% on barha forest
what's the gimmick
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>>174406251
>make thousands of silvers/day
lol

meanwhile necrofarmers make millions /day
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>>174406452
Necro summons have troubles with Bees in ktest, they make fuck nothing now
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>>174406430
You need to enter a portal on the top left part on the map, normally closed by vines. Heard it opens up at 12am/pm every day.
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>>174406251
>Appraiser looks to be the most profitable shop, going to make thousands of silvers/day
fee and its a low rank class without any investment. there will be 9001 of them undercutting each other, just like repair or buff slaves

>>174406452
soon*tm they dont

>>174406430
some vine at the top left goes down at 0.00 3.00 6.00 9.00 12.00 for about 5min and opens a teleport to some area

>>174406010
>>174406251
probably, HG droprate currently is shit low (in ktest)
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>>174406501
KIM THE TRUE SAVIOR SAVING THIS GAME WITH NO SURVIVORS

PVP BALANCE SOON
WB FUN SOON

A NEW AGE WILL ARRIVE
ASK FOR SAALUS CHANGE OPEN YOUR MOUTH AND KIM WILL SAVE THAT TOO
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>>174406501
doesn't matter they are farming right now while you're typing, I've heard some people having now up to 3 accounts all at once
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>>174406582
>>174406596


server time? well, it's 03:02 and the vines are still here. I'll try 12h.

Thanks!
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>>174406713
yes server-time
but maybe it was all 4h hours instead of all 3hours
(0.00 4.00. 8.00 12.00)
i didnt visit that map for a long time and cant remember atm
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What is the best class to sell stuff and get rich?
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>>174407476
farm and sell stuff?
thaumapyrolinker

>>174406608
last time I quested in dina bee shit was full of grim reapers and no necros in sight lmao
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>>174403975
Scout 3 has that skill Split Shot that, with the new Dex changes, should shoot really fucking fast. That, along with cannoneer or mergen and you're set, i'm sure.
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>>174407553
I formulate that wrong, make money buy sitting my ass afk somewhere. Like a squire
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>>174407765
lol necro maybe
none of the shop classes make money because there's tons of them and they undercut each other to literally 0 profit shops
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>>174407839
You can make money if you sell your repairs on a grinding map. Outside of dungeons and in towns are popular but if you put your shops in places without competition, people won't usually care if you're 0 profit or not.
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>>174408390
maybe but not many people grind in a channel over the course of a day and basically your profit is going to be minimal
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>>174408595
But that's still profit, right? It's not 0 profit, and you really don't need to do anything to maintain a squire except an occasional restock trip.
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How long until we merge with /mmo/
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>>174408830
Well thats not true

Think about the time it takes for you to make a squire

Then think about how that time couldve been used farming silver

When you compare those two you will quickly see that its pointless because you will probably need 10 years of your squire shop to make even with the time invested to make a squire
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>>174408971
I make ~300k a week selling buffs, can confirm it's not worth it. I even go full jew and charge almost 1,500 for a lvl 15 Aspersion
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>>174407725
You think Split Shot spam will get me through Solmiki?
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>>174410023
no
4 autistic friends who play tos all day since day 1 will get you through solmiki
>>
So who gets to do crystal mines? I have all kinds of characters with all kinds of stats, but the only one I can do it on is my PD. I've seen a con-based wiz3 linker do it before, anybody else?
>>
>reroll donnes event cube
>lv13 exp cards and fortune cookies

this event is okay
>>
When's combat change dropping?
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>>174410654
IMC said Early summer for iToS, so August.
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>>174410324
>friends
it's hard to befriend literal autists on a weeb mmo
how did you do it? pretend to be a weeb autist?
post weeb shit in discord? pretend to be a loli?
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>>174396682
That's not a feather hat though
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>>174410943
Give value and receive value in return.
Value does not mean items rather time, effort and willingness to cooperate.
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>>174410943
Well its too late now dude
Most people have their cliques already and are not exactly open to newcomers
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>>174410943
It's hard if you're not assertive enough.

Like me.
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>>174411271
That's only if you're a dick. My experience with new players have been overwhelmingly positive.
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>>174408870
I'm surprised we aren't already
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>>174411313
I wasn't talking about friendly chitchat or minor things
Most people will not consider newcomers for their pve related goals
>>
people still seem to not realize what "5 man guild" means

in short: if you're new to a guild, donate no talt
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>>174411383
I can understand that if you are underlevelled. You just need to ask if they have any space and when they are doing the next run.
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>>174412104
>have any space?
no
>have any space?
no
>have any space?
no
>have any space?
yes
>when's the next run?
Tomorrow night, bring your stage 8 315 100% attribute pyro
>I h-have an ET support build
erm... sorry
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Don't forget to wish Plas happy birthday tomorrow
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Don't forget to remove CnL from the OP next thread
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>>174412283
Then perhaps try changing guilds. No one forces you to stay in a guild like that.
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>>174412370
and whisper her stories about 3jane . She loves to talk about that.
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>>174413485
Uhmm, ostracizing 4jane is one of the few things Plasnazica did right.
>>
>>174412864
Not him, but look at the OP. How many guilds do you see per server up there? Join one of those and then leave and these guys will shame you on the general for months. This community is already dead. These fags will cling to their cliques for dear life.
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>>174413841
>Join one of those and then leave and these guys will shame you on the general for months.
Piss off traitor.
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>>174413951
Fuck off with your elitism
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#StopTraitorShaming
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newcomers unite
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>>174414632
yiff in hell furfag
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Can Hamaya or any of the Miko skills go higher than 5 with DM? Because the tooltips seem to indicate no. Clap at 5 with divine might goes to 6 (graphic on the skills menu), but the tooltip doesn't go any higher. It's fixed at 30+ seconds.

Seems like all secret class skills are capped at 5 and do not go higher than that even with Divine Might, unless the in-game tooltips are not to be trusted. Which means you shouldn't even go 5 in clap since DM maxes it. Hamaya is affected by both Sweeping and DM so 3 is enough, because it also is capped at 5.

Or am I misunderstanding how this works? I am loving how sweeping works though. Kagura I've yet to make any use of.
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I am new to this mmo, and my hands are too tiny to reach the number keys on my keyboard without struggle. Is clicking on skills and moving using the WASD to move efficient?
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>>174414807
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>>174415413
no
>>174414903
some are set to max 5
https://tos.neet.tv/skills?cls=Char4_18&f=1
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>>174415470
KAAAAAAAAAARL
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>>174415501
Curse these tiny hands
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>>174415413
If you move using arrow keys with your right hand how is your left hand too small to reach are your arms also very tiny?
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>>174415540
Oh I didn't know you could move with arrow keys
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>>174415413
Use wasd + surrounding keys for skills and the mouse for UI elements.
Clicking on macros to cast spells is terrible.
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>>174415538
>>174415413
>WASD 12345 qerty fgh zxcvb and tab
is fine and (almost) all i use
my hands are not small tho
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>>174415594
I know it may not seem like it but we're all friends here glad to help.
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>>174415501
>some
>all of them are
retard
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>>174415662
>>174415661
>>174415597
Thank you for being such good friends, /tosg/!
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>>174415701
i mean, some skill for overall/other classes, not just migo
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>>174415723
use a controller anon, the game is easy! No need for any kind of fast reactions at all.
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>>174415817
>>174415723
I can get behind that I use a SNES USB when im feeling casual on ToS
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>>174415817
Wouldn't there be too many skills for a controller? All I have is a GCN controller!
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>>174415921
What you been playing with that GCN controller?
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>>174416003
Dolphin netplay stuff like Mario Party
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>>174415921
Nope. If you go for meta builds you only have like 4 important skills only. Every circle into the same class only gives 2 new skills but you don't have enough points ever to get everything.

Meta-shitter builds like Pyro only use 4 skills for example. Joint penalty, gather, fireball and +1 skill maybe now and then. This game is seriously fucking easy to play and requires almost zero skill from the player.

All you need to do in TOS is grind away until you die.
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>>174416061
Well, that sounds comfy I guess. I will try controller out and see how it goes.
>>
>>174416032
I'm a fan of mario party mostly play melee on mine.
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>>174396682
Nice job, man.
>>
>still no ktest patch
Come on, Kim. Do your job and fix necro.
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>>174415413
Use the commands more comfy to you
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All these changes seem really interesting.

I really want to see when this goes live if a build that never goes R7/R8 classes does as well as the ones that do.
>>
>>174404915
>Balaam Campsite
>>
So, can auto-potioning Sorcs still AFK at da beez?
>>
What is this synergy of magic missile and linker everyone talks about?
>>
>>174417804
Sorc summons don't automatically attack anymore do they? So you'd have to also macro which is risky if someone reports you to the fuzzy mango.
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FUUUCK
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>>174418296
What's the point of the attack and hold skills if they don't auto attack anymore?
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>>174411153
It's a feather "Helmet" IMC is a liar liar pants on fire. Also it's actually a Hair accessory slot 3, maybe a bug who knows.

https://tos.neet.tv/items/628070
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>>174418306
>One of her socks is falling down
I can't handle all the cute in this.
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>>174406251
>One end game super weapon is from crafting
>One end game super weapon is from Raiding
>One end game super weapon is from a cube
>All are a pain in the ass to get

Don't see the problem, it's supposed to be hard as balls.
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Would you let your daughter dress like this to ET?
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>>174419017
>murmillo
>ET
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>>174418812
muh ocd
>>
>>174419017
No daughter of mine is going anywhere with two left hands
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>>174420147
Characters in tos are left-handed, so she's twice as dextrous.
>>
Can...someone confirm? Sounds like bs.
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>>174423131
There's no reason IMC would change that, and he even sounds like an ass trying to have less competition when trying to get the flower himself.
>>
>>174423131
>can someone confirm this random retards obvious attempt to lie to me
is this one of those fedifaggot posters again who is too retarded to use his own brain and ESL?
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>>174306759
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so how many months until the first real patch of the game?
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>>174424971
Hopefully after it is ported to ktos it will get ported to itos instantly too. After all kTOS isn't the "test server" anymore.
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>>174424971
maybe Appraiser next month
real big patch in August
Then nothing till January for rank 9
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>>174423131
Why would IMC be afraid to have too many of a class that exists solely for +3 movespeed?
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I guess I won't be logging in until that "returning players" event.

Did Kim slap the shit out of the devs for being morons?
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>>174426070
What's the problem? New players would be nicer than old players that will just leave when the event's over anyway.
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>>174425974
Can you stack cata and shinobi movement speed for max sonic...?
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>>174426158
>new players

hehe
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>>174426332
Shh..just let Mr. Kim dream.
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Do this mmo have idol class?
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>>174426643
Miko can dance I guess, then you just have to attention whore.
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>>174396682
Did you ever get both bracelets?
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>>174426789
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>>174426643
>>174418306
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>>174418262
JP reduces aoe defense ratio I guess, causing magic missile to bounce alot more times. Should probably work with Falconer too.

As for fencer, is Au Fer going to be the best skill to Prep?:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cLUTckV8U4
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>>174426789
y-yeah he got 2 (two) bracelets
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Why aren't blue or green eyes a thing in this game yet?

What about hypnotized eyes
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godamn stupid shit dungeons didnt reset again
fucking imc
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>>174404915
>game is already ridiculously easy
>let's make all monsters do 1 damage and not use skills

Why are you guys hyped over this?
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>>174427582
I thought people were going Hop for Stabbing 15 prep?
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>Summons are getting immensely buffed come summer

Should I get started on my Necro3/Sorc3?
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>>174427953
People are hoping it will fix def stacking in PvP and the balance changes mean we can play stuff besides DievpyroPD2 at end game in parties without being carried.
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>>174428018
Bee farmers have ensured that Necro's summoning skills will never be anything except minor supplemental damage and a way to get corpses, make a Sorc if you want though.
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>>174392093
How'd you get your chat to look like that
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https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=940
>7 day Token, multiply tokens, tomes and other stuff for Silute players

Never doubt Kim, our savior.
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>>174427582
An anon here calculated some numbers.
Au fer seems to be /the/ skill to max
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>>174414903
It's just a tooltip error, all can above 5.
You'll see the level stay 5 but the actual numbers in the skill increase.

>>174415501
>some are set to max 5
No they aren't.
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>>174427626
>blue
Black and grey look like blue and light blue.
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>>174427963
That could be a thing too, that's kind of what bongTOS did, isn't it?
Just seen some people hyping barb for fencer because of the bonus crit rate.

I'm more concerned about Dragoon right now, but atleast gae bulg got buffed.
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>>174273993
I'm new to ToS and it feels like I missed the wave but that doesn't matter. Are the leveling guides still relevant?
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>>174430674

sort of, the closest to relevant one is this one:
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/xans-leveling-guide/312775

but you'll find that you don't really need to do any of the grinding he says you need to do, especially with the 8x tomes from a new account. you can't go wrong following it though
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>>174430674
Not really, especialy now that they changed dungeon levels. Just make sure you do dungeons and mercenary missions when they are available to you.
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>>174428095
If we were to be honest, how many days will anons currently "shafted by the meta" run end game chores before moving on to whine about something else?
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>>174415413
L O N D O N
O
N
D
O
N
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL6HZQfB-Dw
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Who do i have to set on fire to get an mmo summoner class that isnt flaming shit
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>>174436432
linker thauma will never die
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I'm not having fun playing this game.
Just wanted to let you guys know.
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>>174437679
me neither
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>>174436724
Apparently, the rest of the playerbase.

If Peria Chronicles ever comes out, the whole game is about summoners. There's also some shit game out now that I can't remember the name of that involves hunting creatures and making them your pets.
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>>174436432
Cancer.
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>>174437904
>niche build only good at farming
PyroThaums were cancer because they could do anything, this is not.
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>>174437679
Uninstall and move on.
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>>174404915
>Monsters not running away anymore
That's a lie, even bosses still run away in kTEST
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How many bonus points from quests and stuff do you get at max level total? My char has 367 points invested, trying to find if i missed anything.
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>>174436432
Stop posting this, I don't want FF to become a meme build
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>>174440171
Lol it will be the only one to farm swelled mobs it seems so get used to that

>multiplied damage on cursed targets
>multiplied poison damage from links
>high percentages
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>>174436432
>>174440329
DELET THIS
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>>174440329
The good news though is that since mobs do much less damage other classes might be able to farm mobs without being restricted to a few of their high damage moves doing meaningful damage. Obviously one build is going to be best at farming but at least we won't be obligated to play FF like how Pyro feels currently.
>>
Is a clean practonium worth more than say a crafted Windia rod?
Should I try to jew it?
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>>174440715
You can directly trade a Pract for the weapon you want, I'm not sure how useful putting it on the market is with that retarded tax but if you really need the dosh.
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>>174440329
It's getting nerfed next patch anyways, thanks for letting Kim know.
>>
>>174440842
>>174440715
I don't understand how Practonium is worth as much as a weapon that requires at least one Practonium to make?
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>>174440889
>Move Hoplite to Wizard tree
>Remove linker
>Replace Hoplite with Centurion in Swordsman tree

Done. I fixed the game.
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>>174441501
Basically people will make their purple weapon, use it for a while until it's time to make their orange weapon, which needs two practs. So they'll just take the loss to get a pract back since practs don't enter the market much and they don't need the purple weapon anymore anyway.
>>
When will hakkapelle be worth it?
>>
>>174441717
this patch when rouge is THE archer class
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>>174441717
It's already worth it and hackafletcher is masterrace.
>>
>>174441717
they removed the arrow stacking mechanic in the test server
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>>174441717
When they get their rightful multi attacks
Which is in the coming megapatch
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>>174441920
>>174441929
>>174442104
>>174442274
Wait, seriously? Is dex still king?
>>
>>174442716
Nope
Variable stat builds soon my friend
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>>174437809
>the rest of the player base

MY DARK WORK BEGINS
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>>174442104
How are we supposed to deal damage as hakka now?
>>
Is there any advantage in getting STR over dex with the new system?
>>
>>174444078
Yes alot of attack and accuracy
Dex gives attackspeed and critical attack instead
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>>174444078
Not for classes that can get decent crit rate. For archers, I think it's still okay to go full dex/crit.
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>>174444078
None at all.
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Anyone has the list of skills Shinobi's Clones can copy?
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>>174444635
"Shinobi_Kunai"
"Swordman_Thrust"
"Swordman_Bash"
"Swordman_DoubleSlash"
"Swordman_PommelBeat"
"Peltasta_UmboBlow"
"Peltasta_RimBlow"
"Highlander_Crown"
"Highlander_Moulinet"
"Hoplite_SynchroThrusting"
"Rodelero_ShootingStar"
"Rodelero_ShieldBash"
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>>174444635
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>>174444995
Thank you.
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>>174444268
>DEX no longer gives accuracy
This triggers me to no end. Dexterity is literally the skillfulness or precision of ones hands.
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>>174446390
Your weak musculature means the natural air currents are more likely to deflect your attacks.
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>>174446390
me fist strong. me fist big. if swing. me hit.
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>>174446390
They should have added LCK
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Don't make thread
Lets sleep till renewal
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>>174447664

No! No sleeping!
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>>174447779
CUTE!
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If I have Fade on and I use Bloodletting, does my Face cancel?
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Reminder CNL is not /tosg/
They do not recruit from here, they take in anyone
Even bullies more tosg than them
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>>174447967
>Even bullies more tosg than them
This outs the 5jane
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>>174447878
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>>174447931
>Face
No, bloodletting doesn't count as combat damage.
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What should I max as sapper1? Or do I just ignore everything ? pls don't judge
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>>174447480
>Add luck stat
>Secretly make it actually effect drop rates
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>>174448851
Full LCK corsair doppels
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>>174447480
Then DEX would be useless! Who would get dex if it didn't give both evasion and damage?
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>>174447967
>CNL is not /tosg/
woah when did they stop being shitters
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>>174448345
Something like that but you should really take Sapper C2.
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How do the new stat changes affect people who are full con?
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>>174448083
wasn't me, but I was considering making a similar post :^)
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>>174449307
classic misinfo at it again
You always max punji stake
claymore is pure trash
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>>174449307
I'm sapper2 now, just got it. Still haven't spent a single skill point.
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New thread where?
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Are they nerfing Diev immunity statue or not?
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>>174450926
Go with something like this then. You can put that one point in Conceal somewhere else if you want to.
Also, don't listen to 174450472. Punji is only worth it for the knock back effect as the set up time takes too long to be useful.
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>>174448090
bunny on top, estrange pinguin bellow
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>>174451186
They said they plan to change more skills for pvp after they finish working on the current overhaul

I suggest coming back in 1 year
Either game will be good or game will be dead
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>>174451408
>10/10 claymore
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What will happen to Rank 10 classes? Will they only have one circle?
>>
DIE YOU SHITTY THREAD

DIEEEEE
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Kids on this games don't know how economy works, if every squire or whaterver agreed that they need to make profit and rise their priceses no one would complain.
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>>174451890
>if every squire or whaterver agreed
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>>174451890
>calling others kids
>thinks he knows how economy "works"
>believes that you can artificially drive up prices if people like Barry literally do it for free just to spite you

Did you literally just crawl out of a womb or what?
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>>174452105
yes, I did
your mom's womb
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>>174452203
sis...sister?!
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>>174452315
bingo, baka oni-chan
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>>174451890
This would never happen, but I still dont get why people even go Squire, I understand if youre a Templar or something but there are way too many squires, pardoners and alchemists in this game, considering they barely make any profit, if at all.
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>>174451656

lv 10 claymore speed up things, specially vs flying mobs. get all the detonate traps+claymore attributes and use a bow to deal with flying shit. member that broom doesn't work on flying mobs.

you can easily crit ~80k with claymore
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Will they ever increase the character limit? I already have 15 characters and I really want to make a few more builds Id pay 20 dollars for that.
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>>174451812
Rank 9 and 10 will be special multiclassing circles that let you take classes from other trees!
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>>174452872

Spellsword hidden class will be selectable by either Wizard or Swordsman class!
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I really hope we don't get any new classes at rank 9 and 10. There's literally no need.
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>>174449802
Nothing, as long as you have high transcended weapons.
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>klaipedia
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>>174453213
Maybe I should I sell my whaleguard shield too
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>Going through 290 with instance multiplier
>Nothing so far, mostly done and get a few cardboard recipes
>My internet decides to d/c
ah

Fitting followup to a crystal mines that had zero (0) drops.
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Why is the game stuttering so much after this last patch?
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