/gsg/ - Grand Strategy General

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Nicky

Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.

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>>174222476
r&i sleeps?

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La Plata

>>174222476
Uh oh, R&Ifag didn't get first post. Prepare for full REEEEEE and reporting.

Anyway, playing the GoT mod. Do I do King Beyond the Wall or New Valyria?

>>174222515
a little to slow but quite based still

Did I do good? I've never made a general thread before

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r8 my NatSoc Paradise.

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>when you're beating germany in a war in vicky 2 but half your army decides to join the anarcho-liberal revolution

>>174222691
thread is good, first post is wrong
but that's r and i's fault

>>174222691
Nice try, but R&I rules these threads and this is only temporary until he wakes up.

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>>174222451
>1895 – The Treaty of Shimonoseki between China and Japan is signed. This marks the end of the First Sino-Japanese War, and the defeated Qing Empire is forced to renounce its claims on Korea and to concede the southern portion of the Fengtien province, Taiwan and the Pescadores Islands to Japan.
日本万歳!!!

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>>174222706

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>>174222873

What's the most valuable colony I could take off the Dutch?

Java? They own Johore, would that beat Java out?

>>174223121
Reminder that the generals almost staged a coup on Hirohoto after he announced his plan to surrender because they still thought they could win the war.

>>174223227
what country?
if you have the infamy for both javan states java is generally better

>>174222770
But wasn't R&I a bot? Either that, or a group of NEETs across several timezones to monopolize thread creation.

>>174223227
Take Sumatra, you'll need direct access to their oil and rubber RGOs to help industrialization.

>>174223383
Everything wrong with Japan at that time was encapsulated in their army officers. Even the admiralty thought they were retarded for starting/maintaining the war.

>>174223398
Nope. Just one huge autist. There was a timeframe where he kept getting beat to the punch so he mass reported the thread until it got deleted so he could have first post.

>>174223108
W&B

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>Destroy ottomans on the same as King Roach wins the referendum

>>174223558
Didn't it take Tojo several months to find out they were losing because no one would break the bad news?

Is Stellaris grand strategy yet?

>>174224080
Yes.

>>174224080
No.

>>174223478
>>174223397
La France

Should I just take Korea or Dai Nam instead?

What are my early goals as Portugal? Should just beat Morocco up at the start or go immedialy exploring?. I can´t colonize until quest for the new world after all.

>>174224141
Unite Iberia of course.

>>174224141
Form Rome

>>174224234
I´m Portugal, the best I can do is ally to all Castille and wait for the PU, right? Or should I ally someone else and start fighting them?

>>174224281
Isn´t that more of an end goal?

>>174224401
>the best I can do is ally to all Castille and wait for the PU, right?

The safest bet, yes.

The other is just fucking them up and annexing them.

>>174222705
>people actually want to not be allowed to say what they think

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>>174222451
Is it possible to get the Sikh event as Majapahit or Sunda by bordering Malacca or Siak or something before 1500 rolls around?

Would not mind a Sikh Indonesia run.

>>174224480
>implying we are allowed to do it in current societies

Say something against the current neoliberal status quo and you will get antifa chimping out.

Is converting to Ibadi beneficial to Malacca?

>>174224713
If you plan on using your navy to fuck with the Europeans, yes. If you're going to focus on beating Ming and the like on land, then I would say Shia would be better.

>>174224141

Pretty much. Don't take Fez and Tanger at the same time, I remember you get get seperate missions for them. Alternatively you tell England to fuck, get an alliance with Aragon / France and cuck Castille out of his sea access for New World monopoly.

>>174224564
And? If your shit's a paradise, it doesn't need to be spoken out against.

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Liang-fag here from a couple of threads ago.

What should I be taking directly for myself, and what should I designate to subjects?

Bhutan and Nepal are tributaries, Mongolia and Tibet are vassals.

>>174224713
Convert to reformed.

>>174225402
Yarkand/Xinjiang, China Proper, Taiwan, Dali: direct annexation
Mongolia, Tibet, Korea, Manchuria: vassals
Literally everything else in East Asia: tributaries

Also, try to get Alaska, California and Australia as colonial nations.

>>174224564
Because some random assholes chimping out is so many times worse than the government actively working to silence and imprison you.

Out of sheer curiosity, now that the artifact system is a thing, does the Necronomicon do something different for Elder Lore Occultists in After the End?

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>>174225579
What should my/their limits be?

I have names already for Alaska, Columbia/Cascadia, and California already, but do you have any suggestions for Australia?

Alaska: Bei Hai'an (northern coast)
Cascadia: Fusang (refers to the edge of the world)
California: Dong Hai'an (eastern coast)

>>174224983
Allright, thanks. I got Tanger as of now. Working on Granada. And accepted a mission for Casablanca. I´m pretty much beating them for one province at a time?

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>>174225762
Colonial regions in Beyond Typus

>>174225762
You could go with Dà Jīn Dǎo - Great Golden Island.

A lucky player can get multiple gold producing provinces out of Australia, after all.

>>174225762
>>174226052
Also, with the Philippines - if you want to satiate the autism within, you could conquer Sulu, convert them, release them, then feed them the rest of the Filipino provinces.

Or you could just take the Philippines and the rest of the Moluccas directly. But if you're gonna do that, consider vassalising Ternate/Tidore. They get colonists through national ideas, so they can colonise parts of Indonesia for you.

/gsg/ should be given the kspg treatment desu

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>I have the same dynasty as the Empire of Japan

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Good news everyone!

>>174225767
You can full-annex Granada I think, though Castille will likely declare on you for their cores.

>>174226869
I grabbed two provinces and force vassalized the last one. So far, Castille hasn´t tried anything.

>download all the DLC for EUIV from the link in the OP
>extract them
>put them in the dlc folder within /C:/Games/steamapps/common/Europa Universalis IV/
>start up EUIV on steam only for it to give no option to use any dlc
what am i doing wrong and how retarded am i for doing it

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Cancelled naval race with Korea.
Refocusing on monetary stability.

>>174227224
You need the cream api, it's in that russian thread

>>174224080
Posts like these should probably just be reported at this point.

>>174224523
After sikh spawns in india you can just switch religion in the religion tab.

Make sure to get a Jnana effect first. It's one of those stat increases for rulers.
After you have gotten the stat increase you have a national modifier(religious so it gets removed upon changing religion) that stops you from getting a new hindu stat event.
So when you change religion, it triggers again giving you another stat increase and gives you the modifier again.

If your goal was to be hindu you could get it to trigger three times.
Heavy prestige cost though.

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Why the fuck can't I get a stable ruling dynasty?

>>174224523
>he is not using a water mod

/civ4xg/ is laughing at us again

In what places can you find oil in HPM?

>>174226549
>House Yamato ruling anything in an EU game
How's Japan set up in EU3?

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Finally have access to the Nanjing trade centre.
This will help my economy.
>Almost 30 years of trade embargo

>>174228369
Japan in EU3 is set up with several (ahistorical) Daimyos, and Kyoto is controlled by an OPM Japan. The Daimyo who becomes Shogun basically controls Japan's foreign policy and speaks for all the Daimyos.

>>174228087
/civ4xg/ is dead

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I was thinking of getting the colonist idea,colonizing Sulu and then taking another,more useful idea in the same slot.

Is Ming based?

>>174228492
So how does a Daimyo usurp the shogunate? Is/was there a way for imperial Japan to wrest control back for themselves? Why isn't it like this in EU4? Why is Isolation tied to Shinto instead of the government?

>>174228765
It's been a while since I played EU3, but I think you can war for the Shogunate, kind of like how you can war for the Mandate of Heaven in EU4 1.20. And claiming the Shogunate involves moving an army to Kyoto and pushing a button or something.

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I hope this colonial project will have a payoff.

Any mythical mods for EUIV?
Something like OOO was for EU3 featuring El Dorado and other mythical locations.

What religion should the Netherlands have? Catholicism or Protestantism? From what I remember, the upper half was protestant?

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This may help establishing a lasting dynasty.

>>174230253
try HPM, it adds lategame events to find the 'fountain of demands' which makes your pops demand excess amounts of liquor, making the trade good worth more then gold

>>174226549
i had game where ming had personal union over korea in eu3
>believable worlds

DUDE
>LA PLATA
LMAO

>>174230689
calvinism aka reformed

>>174230689
Reformed is the historically more-accurate faith.

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>Their only ally white peaced out
Piss easy
What should I take?
As much as I can?

>>174230689
Doesn't the El Dorado DLC already add some mythical location stuff if you enable it?

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Lads, who should I play as? I want it to be European.

>>174231586
>>174232013
Reformed it is then. Thanks.

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Has the country Khalka tag always existed? I dont recall ever seeing this before.

>>174232332
Milan

>>174232337
think its nationalist rebels from one of the cultures in mongolia

>>174232332
Hungary but wait til 1.21 for new content

>>174232119
I'm not up to date on EU4 dlcs, just coming back after years long break from GSGs. Didn't think they'd add that to EU dlcs now.

>>174232385
I would, but I did a milan campaign not long ago. In fact I did one and a half, so it's like I had two recently. I'm not doing italy just now, albeit sooner or later I will go back to the best region in the game, for sure. But not now.

>>174232476
When do 1.21 get out?

Can you add Belgium in Burgundy if you have it on your sphere in that new version of HPM?

>>174232615
1.21 should be out at the end of this month

>>174232332
One of the Irish minors

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>>174232720
Then I will play Norway now, and Hungary in the end of the month.

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>Deal?
Deal

>>174232929
>5/5/5/5/5/5

>>174233054
I can do jack shit with my provinces.
All of them are Confucianist
I don't have money to develop them.
I already have enough marriages
I can't reach more trading posts.

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>mod folder tells me not to put mods there
>I do it anyway

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So what should my goals be? It's easy to break loose from the union, is it not?

>>174233571
For Sweden it is. I imagine Norway has a bit more trouble.
Colonise the entirety of North America.

>>174233571
Unite skandinavia
blob into england and france. Make vikings great again

>>174234069
Ok I will colonize the shit out of it.

>>174234179
Uniting scandinavia sure, let's see what we can do about England and France.

so are ottomans now hardcoded into taking exploration in every game?

>>174233571
Unite scandinavia, create Vinland.

>2 weeks since ck2 beta patch released
I getting desperate here.

>>174234430
I'm playing with a mod that some kind anon helped me with the other day, it simply makes coring costs for Ottomans higher. I hope I will see a more passive Ottomans in this game. Not sure if it helps much, but we'll see. I just don't want Otto to eat all of russia and austria.

>>174234601
>Not playing country that can stop ottomans

>>174234638
Nah, not today. Just want to play a comfy campaign and not have europe look like it's been raped by otto when it's 1700-1800.

>>174234819
Just joking mate, I know that feel. I played like 5 Japan campaigns and every time I looked at europe it was ottomans blobbing to russia and up to hungary austria border

>>174234819
Play as one of the European major powers and keep them in line. I'm playing a comfy game as Spain at the moment and it's fun to just casually bully the Ottomemes.

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M&T 2.0 FUCKING WHEN??????????

>>174234904
ottos are the best example of why you can't play tall in eu4, because the ai just gets bigger and bigger unless the player stops them

>>174222476
He and Alexander II shouldn't have died, also reminder that if Russia won the Crimean war they wouldn't have modernised and become decadent stopping Alexander II's reforms.

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>>174235118
>Great Zimbabwe Empire
>it's a tiny blob in an ocean of nothing

>>174235193
>"the unified german empire?"

>>174235118
>empire of kangz

are you memeing on me?

>>174235139
That is one of the reasons I am loking forward to M&T 2.0 because it will let you burn other countries to the ground without actually conquering them.

Like you will be able to loot Venice so much that is stops being a trade center.

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Fuck rebels.
They keep rebelling

>>174235139
That in itself isn't the problem. You can't play tall because the game models none of the many and huge downsides that should come with playing wide as well as turning every conflict into total war which is absolutely ridiculous.

Fuck I want an EU game with pops.

>>174235402
What is M&T?

>>174235527
Mayo an talex.

Also know by some as meiou and taxes.

It's a meme mod that has taken the meme so far that it could be good.

Could

>>174235118
>Empire of Kangz
This has to be a maymay.

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>>174235445
Yeah I am very interested to see what the meiou and taxes team makes when they are done modding.

They are talking about making their own game at some point. It would be great to get a grand strategy game made by someone that is not paradox. The team seems a lot more aware what the more hardcore fans want.

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>>174235676
Yeah it looks like they replaced the empire of kanem with the empire of kangz.

Kind of a low effort meme if you ask me. Would have been more funny if they replaced Ptolemaic egypt with kangz egypt or something.

why there is no such thing as coastal barrage by navies that would be able to rape coastal provinces
why navies are so useless in eu4 when they cucked entire napoleonic empire out of trade

>>174235963
>eu4

found ur problem bruh

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>>174235963
History inspired game mechanics? In Europa universalis? Calm down there boy and have yourself some more mana.

>>174224983
Isn't new world monopoly kind of shit though? Like, if you build your colonies they will get bigger and stronger than you and will eventually have high liberty desire and rebel against you.

>>174235963
I think you'll find that realism is not a meaningful argument.

>>174226869
No, as long as you are allied with Castille, she won't attack you.

>>174235963
They should implement a new mechanic tho. Make heavy ships able to bombard costal provinces so that you can siege it faster. It might be a good idea?

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So he just got a cult following of over 1500 troops for being the spawn of Satan and the High Priest of Lucifer's own which i didn't even join

Is exploration best first idea group take as Japan?

>>174235445
Honestly, I never have problems playing tall, especially since they've added a lot of things which made playing tall easier such as devastation, development etc. Building wide is tricky too because of separatism and rebels. I'm just a noob though, so what would I know

>>174235963
Ships can blockade.
Blockading helps sieges.
What you want already exist to some extent.

>when they cucked entire napoleonic empire out of trade
Have you heard about light ships?

>>174236253
Already exists, see >>174236567

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Still have a fuckhuge loan,but who cares.
I might move my capital if I get the capital for it.
And I'm hoping for a Ming collapse

>>174235963
You must be new to the game. Trade is influenced by navies. Using Light ships on trade nodes increase your trade power in the node, giving you ducats. If you have go to war with a naval power, then you can't use the trade node if you don't have a strong navy. Also blockages are basically coastal barrages. They increase war exhaustion and make sieges of coastal fortresses easier to destroy. So having a good navy is important, especially for an isolated nation like England/Great Britain.

>>174236567
>>174236843
Good point. I guess because the player don't interact with it more direct, then it doesn't feel like it's there. It would be nice to have some button to make the ships do it, instead of them doing it automatically when placed there.

>>174237115
Still, it would be nice if they made navies more important for the gameplay, somehow. More than what they are currently saying they will in next patch. And this is coming from someone who isn't really a critic of the game, I love it in fact.

Anyone got the M&T 1.27?
The archive only has 1.26, and I couldn't find a dl link anywhere.

>>174237225
How would you improve it though? Most nations aren't island so they aren't as dependent on navies than others and most nations don't colonize either.

>>174237078
Keep going m8, you got me as interested as that time some friend took over the world as Ryuku

>>174237369
>someone
literally DDRJake, the bane of /gsg/

>>174237345
I'm not sure, but for those countries that have long costlines and are colonizers, and islands, they rarely take good use of a navy either, which is a shame. If you play as England then your navy will be extremely important, but that's the only country you will play which will depend on a strong navy. If you play as Sweden then you won't give a damn. Why? It's natural that a country like Sweden cares about a navy, but in the game we don't really do. Even when I play as France I don't give a damn about a navy. Sure you buy lightships and put them in tradenode, but that's basically it. I just wish there was something making us care more about navies. I really like navies and that concept of building a nation that has naval superiority.

>>174237717
How is Arumba doing now? He is currently doing that campaign too, but I haven't watched.

>>174237717
Hmm? Why do people hate him?
While he doesn't do florryworry-tier crazy shit, watching him on paradox dev clash was fun.

Best website to buy the crusader kings II dlcs for cheap? Somewhere I won't be taxed for 20% because I'm in the EU would be good desu, thanks

>>174237864
No idea, I guess people think he sold out or is too much neo-Paradox

>>174237998
>sold out
I laugh when I see people care about these things.

>>174237998
I thought DDRJake worked for Paradox?

>>174237225
All they said the next patch had was ships would always cost sailors to maintain

>>174238423
>tfw can't send my armada to war because I need to fill the sailor mana requirement

>>174236843
they speed it up, and one age mechanic adds 1 to siege, but why can't you directly bombard coastal fort and then assault it with sailors

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Right after the war of independence, I no-cb dowed livonian order, hoping to vassalize them, promising sweden land of which they will get none!

>>174235963
>cucked napoleonic empire out of trade
The main reason why the naval blocakde was so effective as it meant it had to rely on Old World trade, and the Europeans got big from New World trade

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See this is what being autistic and falling for bait arguments gets you.

>>174236505
No take quality or offensive, then exploration, as otherwise you'll have an empty idea group from intergrating vassals

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I hope this doesn't lead to a total collapse of the southern Brunei holdings.
I have a CB on Brunei but it's for a Hindu province on another isle so I'll pass it.
I can either colonize southward or establish a colony in northern Manchuria.

>>174238497
But sailor is a static thing, not mana and recquires ducats to increase. At least they didn't remerge sailors and manpower as Johann threatened

>>174238862
>At least they didn't remerge sailors and manpower as Johann threatened
they should desu

and then have sailor ideas instead decrease the manpower cost from ships.

>>174238862
>tfw can't fill the sailor mana requirement because it's an unchangeable arbitrary number
>UK gets the +200% ye olde seawolves bonus

I had completely missed that as long as your capitol is in a colonial region you will never form colonial states.
Thought it was based on continent and continous landmass, so thought I needed to have the cap in north america(so carribbean didn't turn into a colonial state, and have a land connection down to south america so I didn't get colonials there.

>>174236154
Not if you keep on colonising new places and also non coloial regions, like Africa and East Indies

>>174238993
Why, the men are trained very differently, and manpower is clearly just soldiers, not cooks, smiths and all the others
>>174239121
>tfw get no troops from recently conquered provinces rather than just shitty morale who might defect to enemy during battle
>tfw no defection mechanic to fuck the Mughals over

>>174239317
>>tfw no defection mechanic to fuck the Mughals over
There's some potential there.
If you could negotiate with rebel factions in other countries like pretenders.

Support mughal pretender X, if they promise you provinces y and x or whatever.

>>174239570
sounds bad desu
if you wanted to takeover some country as guy who wants to overthrow his monarch and take over as king you wouldn't be seen as illegitimate if you cucked yourself to foreign country in exchange for land of your own country

>>174239570
Before they do trade rights in India they need East India companies to actually work. 7 Year's war is perfect example of both mechanics.
Can succession wars in eu4 drag allies in, as only ha 1 succession war, where I was getting the Castillian throneand defending Aragon, but Aragn only had it's PU naples helping no one else. Also surender of Maine should drag in allies as the French are the aggressors in the situation, also breaking tribuitary status needs to end truces.

Any words on when the CK2 balance patch is going to hit?

>check out /gsg/ after a wee while
>read the last few replies
>it's on topic

What the fuck happened, where's the inane shitposting and discord spam? /gsg/ is fuckin' dead.

>>174239734
>cuck yourself to foreign countries
If you're replacing a leader most of the people hated then unrest won't be that high, but like nobility estates should be pissed off.

>>174239850
the STEAMCORDPLAZA falseflag poster who attaches graphic scat pornography has been banned.
Also new DLC out reminded people of the potential eu4 has but fails to capture properly.

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So I am playing as France in HPM but I am unable to puppet Spain. Does anyone know why?

>>174238375
He didn't always work for Paradox, once upon a time he was just a really autistic player known for being good at breaking the game

What are your favorite nations to play as? Mine is probably Italy, beginning is always hard trying to unite Italy (starting as some small italian nation of course) and then the game is still hard because once you form you become powerful but still everyone else wants you dead

>>174239947
>banned
Killed*

>>174240368
This is probably my favorite too. Albeit I favor milan start more than the minors. I love the minors too though. Have you played naples? Really fun.

>>174239772
>where I was getting the Castillian throneand defending Aragon, but Aragn only had it's PU naples helping no one else

it's the retarded situation where in the case of a PU being contested one side is the "defender" and can call all it's allies in and the other can't, where balance wise it should be both can call allies or neither can

same way as when the netherlands declares independence they almost always fail because they end up as a 2PM and the target calls in 5 or 6 other countries

>>174240368
Shizmazu or England in eu4
Wessex in ck2
>>174240578
No he'll come back one day, and it'll be the same photos as last time.

Is the Monks and Mystics DLC shit?

>>174240698
i don't know if they fixed anything but last i heard instead of adding proper secret societies they added satanists and dark mana and left every other society unfinished

>>174240698
>>174240832
I think it's good but unbalanced, we're all waiting on a balance patch that's in open beta at the moment.

>>174240673
In my games Burgundy rarely falls, Holland colonises then breaks free in the new world, when Netherlands did rebel they BTFO burgundy and all it's allies.
Yeah it's bullshit the whole country follows one king, as it often was dukes swapped sides, look at the war of Spanish Succession for example.
Also why isn't there an option to divide your PU up, so Spain can get Sicily.
Whenver something is ceded it really should be temporarily held for the war leader, and then lands are divided among his allainces.
But of course this will never happen because DUDE MANA LMAO PRUSSIA STRONK poland can into space. Yet another great franchise the casuals ruined.

>>174240634
In fact, Naples grew to me when I first played it in Vicky 2 and had one of the most fun games ever. I was thinking about playing milan but first war for independence can be pretty fun for naples

>>174240698
They're still adding in content they promised so wait a few months.

>>174239317
>>tfw no defection mechanic to fuck the Mughals over
it exists in MT, just wait until 2.00
If you occupy province that is your core, or has your main culture group you can dirrectly make it part of your country during war for very small mana cost after a year of occupation

How the fuck am I supposed to win as Shimazu in EU4?

The best I did was to conquer Kyushu but then the other daimyo formed a coalition against me and roflstomped me.

Any quick start guides?

>>174241178
>eu4
back to >>>/r/paradoxplaza you go

>>174241178
play as uesugi instead
having 100 army tradition nearly all the time is comfy

>>174241285
Uesugi is W&B

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I don't think Korea is a worthwhile Allie at this point.
They lost their homeland,and Indochina too.

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>a new DLC came out and all the eu4 shitters have come out to play

>>174241178
Only nation I managed to unite Japan as was uesugi. Their national ideas are pretty great too. But I guess it doesnt even matter in the end because after uniting Japan you can only colonize and wait until Ming gets some massive unrest

>>174241285
>>174241339
With empire rank ind. daimyo government they're prussia with no militarization (and no bonus absolutism) when it comes to combat.

Defensive+Quality and just warring should keep you at 99-100 tradition as either.

>>174241470
>not taking over all of south and east asia

>>174240368
Uniting Italy as Ragusa/Dubrovnik was fun.

>>174241178
Ally tosowaka and the blue nation in the top right
nite Kyushu, with the sengoku jidai casus belithere's reduced AE, from there take all lands surrounding tosowaka
When you have a province neighboruing Ashigaka declare war for emperor, march straight to kyoto and make sure YOU get there first so you win the siege
from there annex kyoto,
You're now shogun so slowly unite japan, and if a vassal gets too big annex Ainu to the north, also colonise as second idea
become tribuitary of ming but help manchu form

>>174241170
I meant armies defecting see here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Plassey, you have it in ck2 with mercs so I can't see why it can't happen elsewhere
>>174241435
I normally campaign post tho
>>174241339
Noobtrap actually

>>174241178
post a starting map of japan and I'll draw on what you need to do
Political mapmode of course

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>Mamluks in Central Asia
What the fuck is going on in Europe I wonder.
I can barely keep the Muslims in Brunei under control.
Even invested in a general,which was fucking costly.

Is protestant better than catholic? I mean, as catholic you get to earn free stability increases, that's what I like about catholic. What makes protestant better?

What´s the best starting idea for Denmark?

Economic[edit]
The Battle of Plassey and the resultant victory of the British East India company led to puppet governments instated by them in various states of India. This led to an unleashing of excesses, malpractices and atrocities by the British East India Company in the name of tax collection.[119]
Yes it would just be client states, but not formed through active work
>>174242697
>free stab
As long as you have a neighbour of the same faith you can get the 'trust your neighbour as stipulated in x teaching' event
>>174242679
>eu3 avoided border gore

>>174241421
>not allying them, calling them into pointless wars until they decline and then invade them
also what's with the mixed unit composition

>>174242772
I think influence is the best. You will need it to integrate both Norway and Sweden. I had a pretty good denmark-run and I started with diplo. The most important thing is that you always keep Sweden happy. Just put one of your diplomats there and let him stay even if you have full opinion.

>>174242772
Diplomatic to stop vassals breaking free.
>>174242697
I'd argue catholic as they tend to win league wars in my game

>>174242930
I'm a Chinese rump state with tons of debt,I can't ally anybody.

>>174242934
Started with influence* not diplo

>>174243019
>i can't ally anybody
>korea was literally sending an alliance request

>>174242959
Influence is better desu.

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I finally have a ruler and a heir.

>>174243113
>wanting to get dragged into Korea's shitty wars against Ming and Manchu

>>174242697
Protestants are better at fighting.
2.5% disc and 5% morale.

They also have numerous ways of decreasing mana cost.

The stability increase of catholics is nice, but I think it's only really relevant when you have papal influence among national ideas. Also it isn't as good when you have lvl 3 advisors and get the stability events anyway.

>>174237294
Well, I found it on a weird turkish fansite...
Here's the link for anyone interested.
http://paradoxfan.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=tumrrk72rs9pm1ifcjerblk1o4&topic=38559.320

>>174238529
Can't you use transports to use your troops for that?


I don't think combat ships we use in EU4 are equipped to deal with occupation.
They're just combat ships, equipped with enough men to handle to navigation and cannons but nothing extra.

No land occupation with those sailors, transports fulfil that role.

>>174242679
>EU3 avoided border gore.

I really need to remove the HDD from my defective laptop because what you're saying is bullshit.

Though HttT was pure fun, in one game Sweden managed to become the HRE and almost succeeded in vassalizing the whole HRE but they got destroyed in the war that followed. From its ashes came Mazovia and Tver as great powers.

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am i doing good so far?

>>174243968
spend your papal mana
get your stability up to 1
get your diplomats improving relations
put your army on pisa
put your army maintenance down

going a bit slow, but if it's your first game you're doing okay

>>174243696
You have historic examples of this
Where carribean fortresses were bombarded until they fell and then their sailors did the rest.
Perhaps it's because of just how big provinces are, but remember in the provinces you have a capital and then villages around it.
Surely you played Assassins creed black flag?
>>174243968
>plays Milan
>in Vanilla
Why are you even wasting your time?

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>>174222531
Palata

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Alright, here is my revised plan.

Yellow = Absolutely necessary
Blue = Optional

>>174243968
spend papal modifier on +10% national tax and stability, also monthly presitge

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>>174244062
ok but why maintenance down? i make 7 ducats with army maintenance on full. Also not my first game.

Why did you ally Savoy and not annex them, focus on Genoa, also kill ferrara

>>174244273
750 hours and that? Pls git gud senpai.

>ok but why maintenance down?
Because having army maintenance up when you're at peace is a waste of money. There is a minor exception for when they're standing on Pisa stopping rebels from rising, but once the rebel chance is down you can turn the maintenance back off.

The only possible advantage from having it on all the time is war preparedness, but it's much much better to have the money in hand instead unless you think war is literally imminent. You're not only losing the money wasted on maintenance, but also the money you haven't invested in better buildings, more trade ships, or a more artillery-heavy army.

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>>174244403
genoa is under siege by savoy, and they have been for 20 years or so.

>>174243968
Depends. I have two requests for you tho.

Add these two mods:

great looking italian troops for when you form italy
>http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=687901762


And this milan forming italy-flag:
>http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=840618723

Ok?

>>174244150
If you have transports you can do naval invasions.
Just combat ships aren't meant for invasions.

And the bombardments are handled with a siege modifier.

>>174244650
what's crimea like

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>>174244616
thanks lad

>750 hours and that? Pls git gud senpai.
i know lol

>>174244703
thanks

>>174244896
You just don't get my point do you

So how's Rebels and Warmongers, anyway?

>>174245017
maybe it isn't as strong as you think

>>174244210
Take all the optional lands except the tip of Istria. Also take all of Slovenia not just the parts in the blue circle.

Also if you are not going to gross your way in to Poland I think you should annex all the united Baltic provinces(do not just make them a puppet). But do not include Lithuania in that. Instead you should aim to make a grosslithuanium in your sphere. Do this, and my autism would be pleased.

>>174245017
Because Assassins Creed is representative of reality

>>174245379
He's clearly a normie so I tried to explain it in laymen's terms, also why I've been linking wikipedia for explanations rather than actual historians.

>>174244928
>thanks
No problem. Milan>Italy is my favorite I think, and I love those two mods for my italy games. The milan-flag only if I play milan of course. If I play as another dutcy than milan I use the standard italy flag mod:
>http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=322508386
It looks nicer than the vanilla, even tho it's not historical correct for that period. And it just looks better as a great power in lategame too. But most importantly it's nicer than the ugly vanilla flag.

>>174241094
They're not adding any content, they're just nerfing the satanists

>>174245872
they refined the search engine for one

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>Another regency council
I HATE THIS

>>174235154
>Alexander 2 was doing his best to modernize Russia and liberalize it to some extent
>socialist killed him
I honestly don't know how someone could claim that socialism is good.

>>174246024
Just get a Queen Regent senpai.

>>174222476
Reminder that Nicky's youngest two children were burnt alive by the Bolsheviks.

>>174246049
Lenin supported the starving of peasants for the purpose of accelerationism in the 1890's

>>174246058
How do I do that?

>>174246136
Get the expansions "EU4" and "Rights of Man" then make some royal marriages.

>>174246049
>to some extent
He compromised to the point that there may as well have been no difference for most peasants, not to mention he started rolling back reforms about halfway through his reign. Plus his secret police was incompetent enough to step on everyone's toes and fail to discover that his own carpenter had been sleeping on a mattress full of nitroglycerin for an assassination attempt. Good intentions, but he wasn't the man for the job.

>>174246234
suck a dick Johann
For a second I though you may serve with actual,serious advice

What are the combat width modifiers for terrain in EU4?

The wiki isn't helping.

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I will soon get to see what Europe looks like.
Can't wait.

>>174246394
>What are the combat width modifiers for terrain in EU4?
They're gone.
They confused wiz so much that once when he tried to get a programmer to explain them to him, wiz just started biting him like a rabid dog.

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that's the biggest tunis i've ever seen

also check out ""england""

>>174247024
I wish Paradox would do something to stop France blobbing into England, it happens a lot in the current patch.

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Shit's getting intense in Russia

>>174246779
Wait, really?!?

So I can no longer dump a small army into the mountains and get the AI to destroy their own (numerically superior) army.
Now I'll just have to deal with a doomstack cav army that decimates my small army, even though they shouldn't be able to attack with that much in the mountains.

>>174247056

the new ai seems to have mucked up quite a lot of stuff in general that was balanced around the old behavior

>>174247375
Contrary to most people, I'm actually enjoying the Ottomans being a genuine thread and taking an actual interest in Europe. Creates a real midgame boogeyman and a looming threat to Europe just like in real life.

>>174247339

they still get -2 to their rolls which is a pretty big deal. -3 if you can get a river crossing as well

this general has never been worse than after mandate of heaven

>>174247484
Not that guy but that's nothing when dice rolls can differ by as much as 10. They should really up damage and reduce dice rolls, but

>stories to tell your friends

>>174247480

yeah i'm thinking more about new world colonization

the ottomans seem to be doing a bit too well against the russians though, those two should be better at keeping each other in check

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Is Geheimnisnacht mod dead or is it still being updated?

>>174247579
Yeah true, I never see Russia expand beyond the Urals anymore, and I never see Europeans colonise more than 2/3s of North America.

>>174247575

if anything battles are unrealistically predictable

bring back 5-day phases imo.

>>174247480
The problem is AI cannot into uniting against a common threat unless there's enough AE for a massive coalition, which still never happens.
>muh realism without any realism mechanics
is a shitty meme that needs to die.

>>174247658
still being updated. No idea when there will be a new version, but they've said that they're working on cult and items mechanics from Monks and Mystics.

>>174247484
>>174247575
Or make it a D8 to reduce the randomness somewhat.

Anyway, Wiz is a fucktard.

I'm playing as Breton and right now I'm allying with France, England, Scotland, Portugal, and Aragon. Portugal and Castille are in PU. Soon they will be war between France, England, and Scotland and I need to choose side. I'm eyeing for France west coast for total Bordeux monopoly but the provinces are owned by 2 great power that may and can fucked me if I try something funny. And like I said before Castille become junior partner for Portugal and Portugal is England natural ally. Should I continue my Bordeux ambition or just stay neutral and maybe move my capital to New World?

>>174247690
You want more RNG? I know that upsets happened a lot IRL, but there's already too much RNG as it is.

>>174247707
I agree, the Ottomans go slow enough to avoid creating large coalitions and are big enough themselves that no one will war them without large alliances.

>>174247838
Should be a D6 or less desu.

>>174247946
>You want more RNG?

yeah calling a battle outcome ahead of time is trivial and uninteresting

>>174247339
Yeah.

They claim the change was because it just prolonged combat.

>>174247024
>be england
>lose entire english clay
>still somehow ruling over irish and scotts
i hate when this happens in gsg
like, if ottomans somehow lost entire anatolia and only controlled greece and balkans you would think that those serbs and greeks would immediately rise to liberate themselves

>>174248059

mountain fights could take a ridiculously long time, i'll give them that

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Finally got another province up and running.
Sad that I had to genocide the natives.
This will lift up considerable burden from the treasury.

>>174222705
what is this

>>174247339
>play meme game
>get meme'd on

>>174248350
>genociding the natives
>while being piss poor
There goes your chance at getting free base tax events

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>roman empire
>white christians living in the middle-east
>white christians living in north africa
>white christians living in asia minor
>eventual fall of roman empire with germanic migration moving into africa / arabia
>mudshits come in and massacre the whole area of white christians
>now majority mudshit sandnigger

What nation do I take to reconquer these areas?

CK2
DEV DIARY
WHEN
2.7.1 RELEASE NEVER

What's the best country for playing tall in eu4?

>>174248809

the dutch are the tallest people in the world, try holland.

>>174248645
if you want to do it as byzantines install that submod which adds shitload of new decisions
otherwise bulgaria or athens

>>174244210
Ehh... Third Reich borders are better imo, if you're going Gross. If not, don't take Bohemia, take only the Sudetenland.

>>174248975
what submod?

>>174249058
>what submod?
Purple Phoenix Arise, you can find it on M&T paracuck site

>>174249005
Alright, everyone get in here.

https://strawpoll.com/ses87ad
https://strawpoll.com/ses87ad
https://strawpoll.com/ses87ad

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Should I make a Siberian outpost or continue with the pacific?
Those natives up north are a lot more peaceful,but they lack resources.

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>>174249309
here's your answer, faggot

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Less Muslims,great.

>>174249309
This poll will end at XX:50

>>174248453
And to think I've given Paradox part of my money.

>>174248891
Partly to do with diet, the Dutch used to be the shortest/shorter Europeans.
Tall Dutch is a very recent thing and a very big part is that the average Dutch has an extremely good diet compared to the rest of the world.
It's also why for example the average height in the US hasn't changed that much.

People around the Dinaric Alps should be the "real" tallest people in the world, genetically.
http://acsh.org/news/2017/04/12/move-over-dutch-men-herzegovinians-may-be-tallest-world-11122

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>>174249309
With Bohemia it looks like a fat german heiling Hitler. Without it it actually looks aesthetic.

>event option text is L'etat, c'est moi!
>doesn't increase absolutism

>spend 50 bird mana
>serbs are now accepted and perfectly fine with being ruled by germans
>spend 40 mana per province to convert slavs into serbs (would convert into austrians, but it is more expensive and you gotta spare some mana for your naval tech)

was the austria leadership dumb or what? it was literally THAT easy.

>>174248645
>greek-bulgarian border is impassable
>epirus-thessaly border is impassable
the fuck is wrong with these impassable mountains? modders are so desperate to add more gameplay/variety that they just fill everything with annoying asspulls to show-off how hard they work and how they are totally not useless.

>>174248437
>>174222705
anybody?

>>174248645
>he's actually going to start a campaign with the cancerous mod memes and taxes.

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>>174249598
wtf looks like this

k lads

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>>174249916
naturally

Four more minutes! Submit your votes quick!

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Fuck SEA.
I will get a foothold on the mainland.
I just have to make sure not to butt heads with the Manchus.

i miss the old ck2 loading pics. someone tell these retards that just because i installed reapers due doesn't mean that i only get to see rotting corpses and lepers from now on.

It has been decided!

/gsg/'s preferred Grobdeutschlandiums INCLUDES Bohemia.

>order 15 cogs in Ecab, Yucatan
>three of them build in the pacific ocean instead

would it really have been that hard to check for travel time as well as build time, pdox?

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Pretty nice.
Hopefully I can move further into the mainland soon.

>>174250580
if you sell a single ship, but regroup it with the rest of the fleet before the deal is done, you keep both the ship and the money. this can be abused infinitely.

this is the level of programmers this company has and you still have any expectations?

eu4 could really use a westernization mechanic. this would actually make it fun to play as an unciv.

oh wait did i say unciv? no such thing in eu4. in eu4 everything is equal.

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Hold the fuck up
>Play naples
>Declare war on aragon for independence
>Win the war and take some lands
>Somehow Im still in personal union union with them and not independent at all
What the fuck? I know I fulfilled the independence wargoal because you can´t take lands without choosing it

>>174250929
*tips natives with guns*

>>174250929

eu4 has nations literally tagged as primitives

>>174251018
did you have a queen-regency? if yes you probably didn't apply the latest patch.

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i love threaten war

roll over bitches that's mine

>>174251132
Yeah I did have queen regency unfortunately. I didn´t bother applying it because it was just some small hotfixes that I thought wouldn´t influence me anyway. So how deep in shit am I? nobody wants to support me now and they are allied with france again... My ruler right now is 62 years old, will the union end if he dies?

Let us hope that this guy lasts longer than the last one.

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I think this is pretty good timing.

>>174251427
Oh I just noticed that somehow Im in union with FUCKING CASTILLE
holy shit

Just formed deutschland in vicky.
Here's my question:

Why are the small nations' armies still present on the map?

>>174251797

owned

>>174251951
Removed one day after you unpause

>>174250680
Colonizing the north is actually viable, as you are discovering, because there are a lot of valuable iron and copper provinces up there.
But it makes your empire look pretty silly. A bunch of Pacific Islands that also rule some huge expanse of eastern siberia? It makes no sense unless you are going to gobble up all of China eventually.

I think you should go for it though, because you will be able to get a horde border for free colonists and you will be able to change your +1 colonists idea to something better.

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>>174251797
>newbie hasn't heard of the Iberian wedding
wew
hf m8

>>174251993
It's progressed over two months, and they're still there.

>>174252102
They own land or your current game is bugged, though not much is lost if its yet another grossblobiums

try saving and reloading

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>>174252059
Hopefully.
It's pretty dumb that Manchu is not a horde,but whatever.
It's better to be able to have good relations with them.

I can also colonize Japan's northern island.

>>174252257
You might have the same ruling dynasty as Manchu.
Are you playing a mod? Taiwan doesn't exist in vanilla EU3.

Is there any particular trick to making sure Ming explodes in the latest expansion?

I know they get an event for unprotected northern border, is there anything else?

>>174252529
Just wait until they declare war on someone and then declare war. AI can NOT fight on multiple fronts.

>>174222451
German potraits in ck2 look like italians irl. Why has no one complained about them looking browner than the germanic women?

Norman-English potraits looks spot on though.

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So guys what do you think of Merchant Republic borders as pictured here?

Circled stuff is marches, CoT is Genoa.
Should i keep vassals as vassals or turn them into marches, wont extra army limit cancel out that 15% relation bonus anyway?

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>>174252487
I do have the same dynasty.
It's modded in.
I had a cloud over my mind last night and modded it in.
Wanted a fun island nation.
Sadly forgot to add a resource to the island,so I am the leading producer of "nogoods"

I keep renaming provinces.

>>174252774
"Italians IRL" are Lombards (germanic), not Italics. So what you are describing sounds correct.

>>174252774
some of them look really brown. It just seems like another Paradox Is /////Swedish/////, moment.

>>174253051
>Sadly forgot to add a resource to the island,so I am the leading producer of "nogoods"
You should fix that. Having no production income from your capital province is a huge handicap. No wonder you are so poor.

Your expansion seems to be going well though.

>>174253240
In the save file or in the normal files?

>>174253317
It won't have any effect on your current game unless you edit the save file.

>>174253438
I'll change the goods to "tea"
That sounds realistic

>>174253051
Can't you just fire a province produces x event on the province id?

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I wonder why Rome is so depopulated. The provinces next to it have more than five times its pop, Campania has 75/38/28

>>174253317
>>174253498
Try firing some of the colonization events that gives trade goods

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>>174253051
Oy m8, pick yer poison