Etrian Odyssey General

>>174083697
Is she drowning herself because EO3U will never be?

>>174083697
>dumping EO3 in the water
right choice

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>You will never fuck a fish
It's just not fair bros.

>>174084319
You never know, there are plenty of fish in the sea.

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>>174083697
>kuudere gets the princess outfit
What did they mean by this?

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Hey
Hey /eog/
Guess what
Mirror Shield

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>>174084507
Fuck you

>>174084593
How is her fight?

>>174084507
you can always go back to 4 and have your revenge

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>>174084507
>counter
>smirk
>pshh

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>>174084319

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>>174084858
STOP MAKING IT WORSE

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They don't call it the deep city for nothing.

And these people call me a furfag for liking bunny waifus

Name a good party in EO3 that dosen't use
>zodiac gladiator
>hoplite ninja
>anything with ninja subcalss
>berserk vow
>instant death skills
You should be able to solve thisI hope

>>174086040
My party was:
Princess/Monk
Shogun/Bucaneer
Hoplite/Ninja

Arbalist/Bucaneer
Ninja/Bucaneer

Never had any problem with postgame.

Um... Let's try this instead: which game has the cutest guys? I'll go buy that one.. ?

>>174086241
What do the buccaneer subclasses do?

>>174086040
Five purple Princesses, five blond Zodiacs or any combination of these two.

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>>174087336
V.

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>>174087336
IV

>>174086040
Yggdroid/Hoplite or Hoplite/x (I'd still use Ninja for the evasion if you don't want to go Bunshin meme)
Buccaneer/Gladiator for Charge

Arbalist/Zodiac for Singularity and maybe Etheric Return - rank 1 Barrages get quite good at clearing like that.
Shogun/Buccaneer for Second "Sword", Swashbuckling, Lady Luck akimbo meme normal attacker - also Pincushion in actual fights
Monk/Princess

>>174087336
remove fags

>>174087393
Pincushion
Lady Luck

Don't remember what else.

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>>174087683
>>174087764
Why y'all wanna hurt me like this

I'm the anon from the last thread asking about which game I should buy next.. I already have eo4...
>>174088142
This is gonna keep happenin, isn't it? I'm a girl my man. I'm also the same male runemaster fujoshit with a low self esteem too..

>>174088695
>I'm a girl my man
nice proofs lad

>>174088695
But seriously, Himukai woke up to cute boys after 3.
It's a bit of a recent thing. He went all out in V.

>>174088695
if you're done with 4 you might as well do EOU next

>>174089092
Cute boys siphoned the cuteness out of girls.
That would explain everything.

>>174089232
EOV went beyond the legends.

"Nene is the best girl I will ever draw.
I will now retire"
-Yuji Himukai.

>>174089575
said no one ever

>>174089092
Damn... I gotta pray for e3 I guess
>>174089125
Untold? Okie dokie
>>174089086
What do you want, my left tit for proof?

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>>174089575
Preese understando.

>>174089701
A finger.

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>>174088695
EO2U has all classes EOU has plus War Magus, Beast, Sovereign and Fafnir.
It also has a free DLC that has all EOU portraits and any portraits that were ever used for promotional art.
In short: when it comes to portraits EO2U has everything EOU has and way, way more.

Still they are remakes of EO and EOII and general art improvement means EOIII has more actually cute boys - but at least the Prince class (renamed Sovereign) is in EO2U and they have some good portraits.
Like pic related.

>>174089698
Yuji Himukai clearly just said it

>>174090045
in your wet dreams nenefag

>>174089965
...Eh? My fingers?

>>174090020
OG Highlander is pretty hot and you don't get him in EOU2.

>>174087683
I want to defile him so bad.
I don't care if I get executed, I just want to stick my dick in him just once.
I just want to feel his soft skin.
I just want to see his embarassed face.
Is that too much to ask for?

>>174091038
Big mood right here

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>>174090792
fug, I actually forgot him.
Yeah, story character portraits are not in EO2U so there are some it doesn't have.

There would also be Simon and Arthur but I don't think they are relevant for any cute boy discussions...

>>174090492
why not, easy way to tell whether it's female or male, and doesn't show anything worthwhile to give up your identity

win/win

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>>174087683
Is he Arianna's kid?

I want degenerates to leave

>>174092020
I want vanilla fags to go to reddit.

>>174092147
How about you return there yourself

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Goddamn, is this how Metroid and F-Zero fans feel? Just forever waiting in the abyss of the unknown for any sign, any scrap of info, that the series they enjoy is coming? That there's maybe a flicker of hope that there's going to be a U.S. release that isn't a shitty spinoff? Or maybe just regretting that they ever were introduced to it in the first place - that their passing curiosity damned them to this fate?

This is hell.

>>174093314
I think most Metroid fans stopped waiting after Other M.

>>174093314
No, this is not how metroid or fzerofags feel, because we have a number of good games to talk about and a lot of hope for a good game on the horizon.

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>>174093314
>tfw fan of all 3

>>174093314
Are you for real right now? All things considered we actually have it pretty decent. They didn't announce one game for a english localization. Boo fucking hoo, meanwhile F-Zero and Metroid are pretty much fucking dead.

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3rd day of floor 27
Gimme strength /eog/

>>174094405
Classes?

>>174094405
>3rd day
Pleb

I finished this shit in 34 hours. Didn't even need to go back to town

>>174094573
P/L/M
S/T

>>174094769
Generic overpowered cookie cutter party so you should be fine.

>>174094749
Well I could cheat and look at a map, but that would defeat the purpose.
>>174094840
Yeah, the battles are not the problem, it's just the time it takes to heal up and regen tp in battles.

>>174094405
all that lives must succumb

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>>174093605
>and a lot of hope for a good game on the horizon
Speak for yourself. After 6-9 years of waiting all we got was fucking Federation Force and nothing else. It has also been 13 years since the last true Metroid game, we had alkaline battery-powered consoles back then!

Next to that EOV neVer eVer is just a little hiccup with actual hope of being solved.

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>>174093314
Now think for a second what 7th dragon fans felt when they kept getting one shit game after another and now it's ded

>>174095409
not him but you should read his post more carefully next time.

>>174094405
>still playing eo1 when eou exists

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>>174095495
And one of them isn't even translated

>>174095768
You mean 3 of them
inb4 fan translations

>>174095504
How? How is it that I have been so defeated?
Ah, sarcasm. For what profit is it to anon if he replies to a post and loses his own dignity? Moot 16:26 I believe.

>>174095847
the fan translations are more than competent

>>174095495
Honestly, I'd rather 2020-II to be about even with the original game.

>>174096271
what did you mean by this?

i'm just telling you read his post wrong is all.

Why did the Masurao cross the sanzu?

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>>174096443
It means that I failed miserably to notice the most obvious of sarcasms and that makes me a faggot.

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>>174096583
To hit you in the face for posting awful jokes

>>174096753
But seriously what's a sanzu?

>>174096939
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanzu_River

>>174097043
Interesting.

Fucking nerf this shit.
https://youtu.be/nWGrmyiXa5g

>>174096583
To find nene

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>>174097371
No

>>174097371
I did 3 turns+ setup charged sanzu with shaman buffs/nuke debuff, target arrow, and chain plus fencer.

It made me feel alive.

I bought EOU years ago and kinda forgot about it

Do I have to play the story first to unlock shit?

>>174097725
yes
you have to play it anyway unless you're a fag who hates content

>>174097371
"Hey, we have this follow-up mechanic called Chasers, sometimes Chains - they are really specific in how they can activate and their damage is average at best."
"Well you better harshly limit how often they can procc - don't want those to be strong or anything, right?"
"Right, right.
We also have this other follow-up mechanic called Warrior's Might or Crossing the Sanzu that get activated by literally everything but has a tiny downside."
"Well in that case make sure it can trigger an unlimited number of times - there is a downside after all!"

Seriously, they nearly had it with Links.
All those needed was to tune down Improved Link to maybe 4 or 5 activations total and they would have been a nice, proper follow-up mechanic.
And I can not understand why Chasers ever needed a limit. Even in EO2U you need to completely cripple your team to get a huge number of activations out of them...

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>>174091520
Oh, that's true I guess.. (That just came off as kinda weird) Um.. Here you go? (￣▽￣;) (I'm one of those people who blend into the background sry)

>>174097910
>to maybe 4 or 5 activations total
you can already achieve that by not using improved link at all

>>174097910
I love how they follow up ghost attacks aswell.
Just fuck my balance up senpai.

>>174097725
EOU story mode locks:
two classes which are probably the strongest in the game
a side dungeon that can only ever be accessed in story - even NG+ classic can not enter this dungeon
for whatever bullshit reason the best katana in the game - no one in the story party can even use katanas without reclassing
codex completion (and therefore the ultimate accessoire but it's not that great this time around) and some achievements

>>174098318
>for whatever bullshit reason
I'm pretty convinced this was a mistake no one bothered to fix, if the cores purpose was switched this would make way more sense
>no one in the story party can even use katanas without reclassing
that's wrong, raquna can use katanas

>>174098095
Without Improved Link you have one activation.
To get 5 you would need to leave Improved Link at 3 which at least allows you to get Link Mastery.

But there is a difference between Atlus not completely fucking up the balance and me shooting myself in the foot to not break the game in half.

>>174098560
Or maybe it's grimoire but then anyone can

>>174098607
>Raquna can use Katanas
What, since when Protector use Katanas?
Are you sure you don't have a ronin grimoire?

>>174098560
>that's wrong, raquna can use katanas
You've probably given her a katana grimoire - natively Protector can only use swords and spears.
I'm not sure if you can get a katana grimoire in story mode. But if it is possible then yes - story characters can in fact equip katanas and use them for none of their skills.
At least there is Limitless, am I right? Haha... ... ...

>>174098970
>remove dualwielding when grimoires came out
thanks atlus

>>174099069
Dual wielding would even be closer to its intended purpose in EOIV.
Since you can no longer just forge any shit you want on weapons they would actually only be used for their respective skills instead of being secondary accessoires.

But nope - Limitless.
And... Weaponfree? That's what Fafnir's retarded "needs rank 20 to actually work" passive was called, right?

>>174099069
>>174099069
>eo1
>dualwielding

>>174099850
wow it's not like eou is a remake and could get it along with other improvements

>>174099850
>gunner
>highlander
>side dungeon
>grimoires

But dualwielding is where we need to draw the line!

>>174097910
We'll have to wait for EO5U for them to fix this mess.
inb4 chains become links and Sanzu becomes chase

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>>174100840
>tfw chains become links and sanzu is left as is
>everything triggers everything
>attack once and shit explodes in thousand papercuts

Only boring autists hate when stuff just explodes from being barraged

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>>174101854
Only gay assholes get in this tent.

>>174101042
What is this? 7th Dragon?

>>174101854
I'm more mad at this not happening with fencer than at it happening with sanzu. Following attacks was supposed to be fencer's thing but instead, they get those boring, limited and awful traditional chases while masurao get to follow even the graze of grassblades.

5 nightstalker run of EO4. What am I in for?

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>>174101996

>>174102513
extreme murder once you hit 40
lots of trouble before that

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>>174102308
dogger is not as good as best samurai

>>174102583
Only best girls get in that tent.

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>>174102905

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>>174103162
Post more Bandana.

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>>174102513
30 hours apparently

Good luck matey

>>174103162
>Bandana-fag is an anti-nene-fag
It's the front cover that you hate isn't it?

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>>174103375
no just awful girls

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>>174103375
>Implying there's only one Bandana-fag

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>>174103375
>Not being a bandana-fag

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>>174103227
>Roguelike

>>174103227

I'm tempted to watch this guy but then I would just end up copying him. I'm gonna do my own thing.

>>174102486
It's like they didn't learn a SINGLE thing from EO3. Hopefully EO3U corrects that.

>>174104884
>implying they won't just go 2U route and crank up HP while nerfing all broken shit and introducing new broken class

>>174105009
Untold 2's balance isn't perfect but it's clearly a gigantic step-up from the original.

>>174104702
Good luck! ヾ(@⌒ー⌒@)ノ

>>174105096
>gigantic
no

>>174105264
Explain how it isn't.

>>174105570
it's still "a selected few classes break the game utterly", just other classes now

>>174105821
and the same ones, just in a different way

>>174105986
hexer and especially ronin are not

>>174098049
HAWT!! I know what I'm fapping to tonight.

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>>174107749
Okie yoshikage kira

FOEs following you behind the doors and down the floors when

Runemaster,landshrek or bushi as subclass for imperial?

>>174108416
Always Bushi.

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>>174108339
>Not having a Nemesis-like FOE that stalks you the entire game.

>>174108416
Bushi is best, runemaster is second best, shark is a meme

>>174108501

>At the end of the dungeon, low on health and mana, just cleared the boss.
>Nemesis is 3 moves away

alternatively

>Nemesis appears on the map while you are mid boss fight
>You have a set number of rounds until he joins the fight

Fug

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>>174108501
Fuck this

Holy hell, how do I play this? I started with EO3 (because it's emulatable) and everything is ripping my lovely little butthole apart. Hoplite's Provoke is useless, and every other character dies in 1-2 hits, and that's only the first floor. Also, I thought that the enemy will attack only the front line, but for some reason they can reach for the charas in the back too. What am doing wrong?

>>174111549
welcome to armoroad!

>>174111549
Everything. Jk jk, who's in your guild first of all? And yeah, monster usually attack the front line but they can hit the back line too.

>>174111549
First of all, forget Provoke and get that Line Guard instead.

>>174111549
Yeah, you actually have to spend skill points wisely in this game.
They don't make a "follow this skill tree" for you.
Register all classes but save before you spend the points, and try different skills.
Trial and error. Enjoy.

>>174111549
fuck EO3 and fuck atlus

>>174112428

This post is why we aren't getting EOV.

>tfw no kirjonen to recruit to your guild

>>174111860
Hoplite, Glagiator in the front
Monk, Zodiac and Arbalest in the back. The balanced team, I think.
>>174111945
>>174112189
Well okay, trial and error it is then, nothing new. Thank you still. At least the music here is amazing, has that pc-98 feel to it, graphics are cool too. I think it'll get very interesting once I'll figure skills out.

>>174084495
isn't that just saber

>>174112826
>Zodiac and Arbalist
Eh a bit redundant but still a good team anyways.

>>174112826
that's a pretty straightforward group

>>174112826
Yeah that the balanced group so nothing wrong there

>>174108416
Runemaster gave me more damage without sacrificing anything. I only used Imperials for elemental damage though; they physical skills didn't interest me at all.

>tfw spoiling myself watching japs one shotting bosses in EOV

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Behead those who insult Nene.

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>>174117792
Fuk nene

>>174084495
>no Hoplite outfit for Mamori
Out of all the things that game did wrong that was the worst.

Guys I'm playing U2 story mode. I feel that the party lacks damage, and I run out of TP too fast in boss battles.

>>174122328
Don't waste TP items, you can only make amritas after floor 14

>>174122328
Fafnir and Chloe are your main damage dealers. Everyone else is pretty much support.

>>174112428
Why

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>a perfect fit
What did they mean by this?

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>>174124475

>>174124475
>tfw named my Potter-kun after Himukai.

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I'm noticing that this game really is too easy, a lot of FOEs I can beat pretty much the first time I encounter them. I just beat the second stratum boss and I'm level 29, should I rest a few times to bring my level down a bit?

>>174124805
I named him Mishima, like I usually do when I need a japanese name.
It's confusing.

>>174124805
I did the same thing

>>174108339
evil spirit club

>>174125003
Just play a better game.

>>174125003
This group dynamic(relationships not skills) doesn't seem like they would get along very well.

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What if an Imperial was able to subclass itself as an Yggdroid?

>>174129104
You can't subclass yggdroid for whatecer reason.
Skin and all that shit I guess

>>174125003
You ARE on the right difficulty, yes?

>>174129217
>You can't subclass yggdroid for whatecer reason.
The same reason you can't reclass as beast

>>174129364
yep

>>174111549
EO has traditionally a really rough start.
As soon as you have some levels and equipment under your belt your party will be more durable.

Also pick line quard over provoke and in you feel unsure let your fron liner defend against cats and fat birds.

>>174122328
You main damage skills are:
Fafnir - Delayed Chase/Blade Recoil, Saber/Wave of the element the boss is weak against
Chloe - Ailing Slash; it's one of the strongest damage skills in the game but needs an ailment and that's pretty much all Flavio is good for
Arianna - Link Order; once she has set everything else up she can squeeze out some damage by following up Fafnir's attacks
Flavio - nothing, really; there is a way (besides reclassing) to give Flavio good damage but that's really late in the game (enemy Grimoire Power Gel) so until then just focus on ailments

>>174125003
You are a bit overleveled.
I'm usually level 26 after the second stratum boss.

But yes, EOIV is pretty easy even on Normal difficulty. When you pick something like a Linker party shit just melts and even parties with less synergy have not really a hard time.

That's one reason I recommend to start with EOIV - it's competent enough to show you the battle system and aspects of exploration with training wheels so you can learn most things the series is about.
But if you come back after other EO titles you notice how easy it is.

>>174111549
EO always has a rough start. Pay attention to the day/night cycle as different enemies are out at different times. Provoke is sadly criminally useless, invest in Line Guard instead. Invest in equipment, it makes a huge difference. Remember to take it slow and focus on learning enemy attack patterns/weaknesses/etc. until you're more comfortable exploring more of the labyrinth at once.

Question: what're good links for Landshark, runemaster, fortress, dancer, medic and possibly arcanist?

>>174132602
Links?
Like in the skill type "Link"? Just use wahtever element you like - ice and volt have mulit-hit attacks on Runemaster so they are better suited for Link activation than fire.

Or do you mean links like websides?
https://www.gamefaqs.com/3ds/997793-etrian-odyssey-iv-legends-of-the-titan/faqs/72816

>>174133324
Oh wait jfc what is wrong with me

I mean subclasses not links I'm sorry

>>174134049
Landsknecht/Bushi
Runemaster/Bushi or Imperial - first has a bit more damage, second has better TP management
Fortress Dancer for Fan Dance - no Speed Boost its interaction with Fan Dance is bugged
Medic/Runemaster so they can deal some damage or Medic/Landsknecht for Stardrop
Arcanist/Medic to create a beast made of ailments, binds, debuffs and healing (costs a ton of skill points but it's really strong)

>>174131639
>flavio
>good for ailments
Only after a reclass to hexer

>>174135664
I meant it more in a sense of "he can basically do nothing else".

>>174129621
Yet you can put all of their skills on grimoires.

>>174138347
You can put monster skills on grimoires.
Breaths, wing attacks, bites, all kinds of shit.
Beast skills are pretty tame and simple to do by humans in comparison.

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>>174138745
Will you lick my wounds, anon?

>>174138886
I would gladly lick Bandanashark even if she isn't wounded.

Almost finished the first EO and I've been enjoying it.
Should I get EO2 or EO2U?

>want to play IV again
>can't find cart
There's a special place in hell for whoever it was at nintendo who decided to make games as small as possible

>>174140053
>Live in Australia
>SMTIV doesn't even have a cart
What are you complaining about? More to the point, look after your stuff dumbass.

>>174140418
Disregard, I thought I was in /smtg/

>>174140053
Not their fault you can't take care of your own things. Being the size of a GBA cart probably wouldn't help much, so I'd rather have my games being easy to store over being retard-proof.
Now go take a look at Vita and Switch games.

>>174139787
EO2U would be a massive jump in QoL. Side stepping, sprinting, basically everything is quicker and smoother.

I'd say it's objectively superior to EOII but if you want to play every game in the series you might have trouble adjusting to games with less QoL and polish afterwards.

>>174140053
Your own fault for being a dumbass and throwing a box away. If you're really that constrained by space at least buy one of those cartholders

>>174140442
I wang smtfags to leave

I might fucking buy a 3DS now, Etrian Odyssey is damn fun when you know what you're doing.

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>>174144014
>he still doesn't have a 3ds

Are EOU and EOU2 better than EO4?

>>174144626
They're harder and longer.

>>174144626
No, 4 is best game

>>174142638
tbf the problem was that I put the games in a case and misplaced the case

found it in a drawer under a bed

>>174144014
tfw torn between updating 3ds and buying another dungeoncrawler or leaving it as is and seeing if I can pirate with it

>>174144626
EOU is a really tight game

I like 4 loads but EOU is probably a better product

>>174146657
it's the most slapdash game since the DS EO2 days...

>>174146657
>Total disregard for classic mode
>paper-thin characters in story mode.
At least the classes are reasonably balanced, even if they're not all that interesting.

>>174146657
But why is it? Isn't it just a remake of EO1 with some revamped mechanics and balance?

>>174146657
>>174146752
What do you even mean by "tight" or "slapdash"?

>>174146581
Buy it, you sonuvabitch. More dungeon crawlers sold - more chances for new EO in the West.

>>174147091
"Well-crafted" and "Rickety".

they are saving eo5 for e3 right?

to pad their panel or something

and for a big reveal and to say "sorry p5 took most of our stuff for things and here you all go!"

and couldnt be nothing else at all and so for to now yes

>>174148729
>"sorry p5 took most of our stuff for things and here you all go!"
It didn't, they announced Utawarerumono and Caligula just fine.

>>174148729
Just accept that it is not coming.
They developed themselves into a cornor by adding the stupid voice lines for characters.

Untolds have set a precedent so they can not simply leave the voices in Japanese or the outcry on social media would kill most sales.
And they can not pay english VAs or even find enough decent voices - in Nippon you just shake a tree and four or five talented and more importantly desperate seiyuu fall out.
In NA you have to comb the land to find any halfway decent people that aren't overworked or cost a ton. And all for a niche game?

It's not happening.
Learn moon if you ever want to play another EO.

>>174149364
There are literally dozens of way to solve that. That's not going to stop a game that can make a profit.

>>174149364
neither of those vita games are voiced?

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>>174149364
Just what do you guys think those 40 voices are? A vocal narration of the Bible? NPCs aside there are about 24 seiyuu total doing VERY few voice clips each amounting to less than 2 minutes worth each.
Most seiyuu there are doubling down on their roles, there's literally nothing stopping Atlus USA to have each VA do 3 or 4 voice banks each. Take in mind that these are very basic grunts and yells so you don't need much talent, just a dozen of people that don't suck balls.
Then there's the alternative of cutting down on the voice options, I can totally see them halving the number (even moreso if they offer JP as DLC).
Finally, they could dub the NPCs which actually have lines that matter and leave those yells and grunts undubbed.

Seriously, playable voices are stupidly trivial. If games like Demon Gaze could manage, so can EO5.

>>174149754
They are. I don't know if fully dubbed but at the bare minimum both games have more voiced lines than all EO games brought together.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GPOBQ_sVQ0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWYH5PgfO0M

>>174150694
>there are about 24 seiyuu total
A couple less actually, 22.
18 of then do two voices each and the other 4 do one.

>>174144626
A million times better. They're way more fun and rewarding.

>>174151481
What exactly do they have? I played the original EO1 and 2 and they were pretty flawed, I know that the remakes probably rebalanced a whole lot, but since they don't have sea quests, overworld or subclasses, they are kinda of a stepback from EO3/4, no?

>>174152795
They have more floors and more balanced classes.

>>174152795
A difficulty that isn't insultingly easy, for starters. Subclassing was broken in both games and got replaced with Grimoires for the Untolds, which in general are more balanced. The overworld was a mistake so it's definitely not a step back, and if you wanted to do something other than exploring the main dungeon, you got a side dungeon with unique enemies, FOEs and bosses.

>>174153212
grims aren't a substitute for anything

>>174153312
They do make up for subclasses.
And since they're such a pain in the ass and so unappealing, nobody feels compelled to break them in half like subclasses!

>>174153212
>The overworld was a mistake so it's definitely not a step back
lol
>if you wanted to do something other than exploring the main dungeon, you got a side dungeon
You basically got a new stratum.

>>174153594
There is a reason they didn't add an overworld in EO5, you know. They acknowledged it was a shitty idea.

>>174154340
nah fuck off they ran out of money

>>174154340
Or rather their budget couldn't handle it.

>>174153212
Subclassing wouldn't be as broken if Atlus actually bothered to balance the classes properly. I have no idea what they were thinking when they made the first couple levels of Blood Surge the most efficient ones.

>>174154712
>I have no idea what they were thinking when they made the first couple levels of Blood Surge the most efficient ones
The same thing they thought when they made Sanzu so ridiculous: it has a downside so it's all good, no further testing required!

>>174154420
>>174154448
No, they literally said they decided against it because it broke the feeling of dungeon crawling and they wanted to make a game that felt like classic EO again.

>>174155032
Which is mostly just an excuse. You can't really take away such a feature and say nothing. If you look at that old key visual of EO5 it was obvious they had the intention to keep something like it around but decided against it in the end. There was just no way they could keep travelling plus having a large Yggdrasil while still having a small budget.

>>174155032
And how does Ginnungagap "not break the feeling" when it's breaking you apart from the tree to do some task in a less interesting floor of a farway dungeon?
It breaks the rhythm without actually letting you take a break.

>>174155429
It's still dungeon crawling.

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>>174156287
You're correct. Kind of lower quality dungeon crawling but still dungeon crawling.
But here's the thing however: the overworld wasn't all that different. Sure it lacked random encounters and a first person view (does this part actually matter?) but in its stead we got an interesting way to navigate the map while remaining grid-based.

But more importantly, it served as a refresher (sea faring too, even if it wasn't so developed) by offering a gameplay variant that is still engaging but different, which is a very nice thing to have in a game as long and repetitive as Etrian Odyssey.

And in a more personal note, reaching a ver far away goal felt more like an adventure than reaching the end of a very long tunnel.

What's the mystery dungeon crossover like?

Persona Q fucking sucked and I liked both games involved

>>174158791
Music was the only good part of EMD, imo

>>174141647
Cool, thanks for the feedback.

>>174158791
Average Mystery Dungeon game with EO skin and some annoying elements.
Some anons in here liked it, some not.

You will probably have more fun with it than with Persona Q - but that's a really low bar...

>>174149364
Cut the voices. All of them. Jesus Christ, who cares about that shit in a dungeon crawler?

>>174162782
This. It pains me to think about how much time and money is wasted recording this shit. At the very least you should just slap english subtitles on it and call it a day instead of wasting money hiring the shittiest English VAs you could possibly locate. I fully blame retarded Western fans screeching for english dubs for the situation we're currently in.

>>174162782
Apparently, every dungeon crawler now.

>>174162782
siliconera comments section

>>174162782
It gets even better once you realize they went back to generating the dungeon as you walk through it like EOIII does instead of having it saved as a chunk like it was in EOIV and the Untolds TO SAVE CARTRIDGE SPACE.
Which they then clogged up with voice lines!

Who needs to see the dungeon or FOEs when you can have a character point out with a voice over that the enemy you defeated thirty time already is weak to fire?

Everything about the voice lines screams corporate decision to me - they were clearly forced in by someone that has no idea what kind of franchise EO is.

>>174164726
>It gets even better once you realize they went back to generating the dungeon as you walk through it like EOIII does instead of having it saved as a chunk like it was in EOIV and the Untolds
That's called draw distance. They lowered it to lighten the graphical load. It doesn't save them any space.

>>174164726
Or maybe because the seiyuu thing worked for Untolds and that's some easy money to be made in Japan.

Why can't we have both again?

>>174165201
Because people love looking for scapegoats. Easy, simple factors to throw all the blame into.
Why aren't they localizing it? Voices
Why does the draw distance suck? Voices
Why did it rain yesterday? Voices
Why was there no budget for an overworld? Voices
And when it gets localized and has the Atlus tax slapped on, what will be to blame? Voices

>>174163332
>How much time and money
Its probably two weeks worth of work at best and its not like the VAs getting recorded or whatever magically stops the rest of the project from moving on or that it steals money that the graphical/coding team gets either.

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I can't wait for EOU3 to redeem the Untold series.

>>174165472
I'm honestly willing to bet that Atlus simply just doesn't want to localize it anymore because they didn't think that the others were profitable enough. Either that or they had their hands full dealing with other priority projects like Persona that gives them 10x as much profit that they shifted EO to the side.

>>174165569
In this day and age, it amazes me how people still think all video games are created as if they were made entirely by two, maybe three people. And that budgets are like water that you can move from a container to another freely after you get the initial bottle.

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>>174165736
Ricky already did that.

Are there any non-EO dungeon crawlers on the 3ds?

>>174165037
It does. Each different tile visual is saved once and loaded dynamically based on the map file. The way they were previously doing the 3DS games, each floor was saved as a large model, meaning the model for each of these individual tile types is repeated a whole bunch but each instance is part of the larger model rather than an actual instance of the model that's loaded in. It's like making copies for each tile's model data rather than using pointers to the model they all have in common.

>>174165201
Because for the Untolds they used the more expensive 1GB cartridges but after EO2U did not sell that well they went for the cheaper 500MB ones.

>>174166276
Deep Strange Journey is coming soon.

>>174166276
Including DS library or not?

>>174166276
Off the top of my head Lost Heroes, Elminage, Class of Heroes, Seisou no Amazones, Unchained Blades.

I want to make a yggdroid and I really like the fantasy of a maximum strong machine breaking a giant hunk of metal over a monster's head. Is gladiator a good subclass and could I make use of 9 smashes if I max out infravision? Right now I have a farmer/ninja who can set-up leg binds so that sorta helps.
And how does wild swings interact with it? Does each swing have a chance to splash or does it copy the whole attack by chance when you activate it?

Otherwise I noticed my pirate is doing absolutely monstrous damage through swashbuckling right now. Maybe it would be a good idea to combine lady luck and datamining for a double damage crit build and a chance of 3 normal attacks per turn. But I don't know if crit is based off agility or luck and I'm pretty sure Yggdroids don't get much of either.

>>174167539
Ideally not because I'd have to track them down or use cfw and work out how to use them on that

>>174166276
There's a bunch of rpg style ones like conception 2 which is a really cheap persona knock off

>>174168049
I wouldn't recommend Conception. It's just so boring and the skill system is really stupid.

>>174168201
The teacher was pretty hot but I couldn't work out if there was any porn of it because searching conception just brought up every single impregnation doujin ever

>>174165765
random vita games that sold 1/5 in japan are worth it though?

>>174168380
The teacher is okay but I really ended up liking Serina. She's fiery and good hearted and uses your ether generation to change to a huge breasted tall version of herself that results in hijinks. I really liked the scene where she reverts back to her normal size and it's naturally flat so her bra slides off and she's too embarrassed to return it but she can't just hold onto it since that's weird but it's also way too big to pretend it's a gift for her older sister.

But I just couldn't keep going. The dungeon crawling is just so boring and every dungeon has the same 3-4 monsters. You have to do so much grinding to open up side content and extra items it's unreal and not any fun.

>>174169192
Their respective developers are surely paying for it so Atlus USA won't be losing much even if they don't sell.
However, they must be eating up precious personnel.

>>174166276
>Are there any non-EO dungeon crawlers on the 3ds?
Let me add this, in English?

>>174169942
Ideally

I can't read any japanese outside of the word for tea

>>174170037
picdun 2

>>174170037
Unchained Blade. It's shit though.

>>174170920
>>174170532
Cheers

Even if they're bad it'll be something to do while I poop

>>174167879
Really, the only subclass Yggdroid is kind of good at is Hoplite.
They have good VIT and HP and can restore their TP by disabling parts of themselves not needed for tanking.

For anything that deals damage Yggdroid has massive problems.
Hit chance is calculated by AGI, TEC and LUC - now take a good look at what Yggdroid sucks at.
Nine Smashes nickname is Two Misses and even on a Gladiator it's extremely underperforming. hitting 2-9 times is too inconsistent in the first place, crap accuracy kills the skill outright.
Leg binds can only take you so far if any boss becomes immune to them after inflicting it ones or twice.

If you really want to use Yggdroid as a damage dealer I would try punch Monk.
They have the Strength to make it work (since Monk Fist damage scales quite good with STR) and Ascetic Deeds 10 can cancel out Overheat 9 so you can increase your damge for 40% for nearly free.
If you are not using the 6th slot in another way you could have a Red Bot chase the hits of Breakfire Fist.
You will still need Infravision though because Monk has nothing to increase hit chance.

Also a robot punching people with flaming fists is pretty metal.

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>>174134913
Thank ya! I'll get to work on that right now!

>>174172331
Make sure to put points into Ascetic Deeds before you put any into Overheat.
Overheat is a passive that can not be deactivated - as soon as you learn it you will take damage whatever you do.

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Why don't we translate EO5?

>>174176269
Because we can't repack it.

>>174176269
I still have faith, do this instead
http://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ194013.html

>EOV never
>Bunny Black 3 never
Just kill me

>>174176659
Then why don't we make a repacker?

>>174177858
dis nigga

>>174176659
>we can't repack it
Maybe this is why we don't have EOV in the west.
ATLUS US can't repack either.

>>174177858
Good idea.
Get to it.

Ricky

Is

sticky!!

cute

>>174176659
didn't some dork from SA manage to do it the other day?

>>174181191
No he just did shit without repacking it which as a result made things laggy and unplayable, but work.

>>174173814
Okie dokie!

>>174171348
Thanks a lot dude. I was thinking about how useful a bot would be but I read somewhere that their damage is highly dependent on TEC which I don't have a whole ton of, and that it has the same rapidly decreasing chance to chase as pirates do while being unable to be buffed or healed outside of resupply. I just decided to respec my pirate because level 7 chase thrust was doing really great damage but still only chasing 2 or 3 attacks half the time.

But breakfire fist seems really great with 40% extra damage all the time. Only sad thing is that the shitty luck/tec means I probably couldn't use it to curse dudes with darkness fist. I know a handful of dudes have special conditional drops you can only get if they kill themselves with it.

>>174165736
More like become the worst untold, 3 was a mistake

>>174165736
2 already did

>>174186590
it's amazing that you never get tired of being retarded.

>>174186705
>2U
>good
This meme again

>>174187118
it's mechanically the best eo game

>>174165736
The only thing left to redeen is completely scrapping grimoires (or completely removing all of their RNG factors). Go go EO3U, you can do it.

>>174187149
Too bad it sucks in anything else

>>174187175
The only thing left to redeem is no need for datamining.

Grimoires are fine.

>>174187118
>>174187229
Nice taste, idiot.

>>174187256
Sadly that will never go away, ever.
Grimoires can and will go fuck themselves.

>>174187175
Or just reintroduce melding back while leaving the rest

>>174187273
Definitely better than yours

Holy crap, the prelude segment of Ginnungagap's theme sucks balls in FM.

>>174187406
What do you want melding back for? It was confusing and mean you couldn't swap skills freely. Its only good point was having one skill slot more.

>>174187557
>The guy who doesn't like EO2U thinks he has better taste than someone.
My sides

>>174187578
yep, at least koshiro properly ganbarimasued for V

>>174188592
$3 dollars worth.

>>174187681
I mean melding like in "throw bunch of trash in and get a grimoire of higher level" so you can get whatever you want after moderate enough grinding. Obviously lock it away until late game so you can't get level 10 stuff right from the start.

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>>174177346
Just for (You)

>>174189305
I'd say EO2U did the recycling part well in that you wouldn't get overpowered grimoires early. Of course if we're gonna de-randomize acquisition something else needs to be in place as you say.

I think a method to make grimoires simple would be to make grimoire stones purchasable at the store, there being variants with different max levels. After purchasing a blank stone, you can either fill it with a skill of your own or put it somewhere so an NPC explorer can do it for you (mostly for the story party) probably for a fee.
Still I don't know if I want to see this as that would mean no subclasses.

Was there any EO game where the cover party wasn't at least semi viable?

>>174191094
1 where there's only 3 characters.

>>174190545
I think they should tie enemy grimoires to enemy drops and charge you a certain amount based on the skill level and the other grimoire characteristics to create a grimoire with a skill from one of your party members. For story mode, they could have a custom shop where grimoires for all the classes that aren't in the story party unlock gradually as you progress or something like that.

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I didn't notice this part in my first playthrough. I'm still laughing.

>>174189623
grats you made me not want eo5

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I was one festival away from having the perfect event combo. Has anyone here ever had the big red group+gourmet king+festival?

>>174192060
Once in a lifetime

Dailry reminder - you should buy every recent dungeon crawler on every platform, so Atlus wil get the idea that the only thing West wants is a first-person grindfest! Operation Babel is hitting Steam on May 19th, be sure to get 5 copies!

What does a Shogun even do?
What the fuck am I looking at with Yggdroid?
without subclassing

Do the untolds have standalone stories or do they follow on from each other?

Don't fancy replaying 1

>>174193827
You get a couple of references to Etria and the Yggdrasil Project in 2 Untold. They explain everything worth remembering anyway.

>>174193827
they kind of follow on from each other (2U makes it clear it's set in the same world as U1) but the actual plots themselves are different

play classic anyway

>>174191737
>bear
worst beast

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>>174193141
>Steam

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>>174193764
Shogun is a meme.

Good night thread.
Survive.

>>174193764
>What does Shogun do
Enable the strongest team comp in the game

Eou3 never.
New trauma center never
Persona forever

>>174193764
>Yggy
>Without subclassing
Hah, that's a good one. Main class Ygg:
>Books and knives only
>Summon bots which can be used to attack / reflect elements
>HP Cannon, almighty attack that does damage when low on HP
>Recover TP by inflicting binds on yourself

Not the most impressive thing. They have godly stats and passives. Infravision gives them better evade than a ninja's and better accuracy than the arbalist skill. Overheat is stronger than endless battle. Virus Scanner makes them dodge ailments. And they're naturally immune to binds, because they can only be bound via self-inflicted skills. But they have no weapon masteries so you're stuck with books and knives for weapons. You more or less need a sub (preferably gladiator) to do consistent damage without a gimmick build. But it's good damage and they have legendary bulk.

>>174200610
DUNGEON RPG IS FOREVER

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yggdroids are a MESS.

Why are armor speed changes based on small flat numbers? They maybe matter a lot when you can use a light armor with 8 def and 1 extra speed than a medium armor with 10 def, but later on it makes such a small difference since the agility of each character tends to "spread out" much more.

>>174211010
Cuz EO is unbalanced as fuck

>>174211550
The series has gotten much better in terms of balance tho

>>174207790
RIP in peace.

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>>174218614
>earthruns get 4 classes

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>>174218614
Nene is the best the best the best the best