/civ4xg/ - Strategy/4X General

>do the "turn giants into burgers" research
>enables me to recruit them instead

Gay

>be synth
>convert to spiritualism
Bravo paradog!

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>>174067243
>>174067608
Okay so upgrading at a port w/a space academy doesnt confer the fire rate bonus, and prolly none of the others either.

>>174068076
Thanks for testing it for me, I appreciate it.

pls stop posting spider, spider is not strategy

>>174067990
that would be pretty cool thing to have if it weren't an oversight

Epic storytime? Recap from my last hyperlane game.
> Started new spiral galaxy with spiritualist /militarist /egalitarian ethos
> name them covenant of the beacon and proced to have Fun sassanid rp with a spice of interstellar zoroastrianianism. I Fight many wars ,made many vassals while keeping good relations with some other spiritual empires.
> My musculoid, cuttlefish people discovers psionic and the shroud
> Empire leader become immortal, everyone Else get another 40 years of life.
> Covenant of beacon is blooming hard, admiral slays the void dragon, last Wars on close enemies are won.
>Suddenly materialic empire awakes and counquer 3 normal empires
> I know that i must conquer them before they blob

> Continue>>

>set it so that advanced aliens don't start next to me
>they start next to me except there's like a few planets uncolonized in between

Wow this is some top-tier game design where the options don't even do anything huh?

>>174068147
Make the thread before him.

>>174067974
>do the "turn giants into friends" research
>they attack and occupy the colony

>>174068214

> Dow them, but the distance, hyperlanes and smaller fleet are cousing me to withdraw.
> Fight the attrition war while i muster my fleet.
> Shroud is kind, giving me psi drive and avatar.
> I unlock new ascention slot but i dont want to spend IT on perk that boosts fighting fallen/awaken empire.
> I warp to enemy system and after a long battle my dragonslayer admiral is victorious.
> I lost more then half of the ships, but i continue my campaign, taking ringworlds is what im after.
> Warp to the heart od their empire where my enemy is making his last stand.
> His last ships explodes as my psi cuttlefish commando are taking his bombarded ringworld.
> In the same moment ive got a signal and month later unbidden portal opens ontop of one of my vassals.
>I finish my conquest early and take only most precious systems.
> My fleet is in bad shape and unbidden already have 5 fleets od their own.
> Build myself back to 100k and pick that ascention perk in the leftover slot to boost my chances with unbidden, while they absorb more then 20 systems of my vassals. They are right on my border.
> I scout the portal and with the help of the bait i attack the transdimentional gate.
> I see returning fleets, as my own force vanish in the fire of explosions.
> My avatar separates from main fleet and attacks one of the returning fleets to buy us some time.
> My general is suddenly gone, maybe his ship got destroyed, nobody seem to realize that their leader is gone.
> As the unbidden fleets close in, my ships are perforated. The avatar is no more just as the last Anchorage of the portal.
> With the last bit of their streangh my fleet destroys and shuts down the portal while i command reatret.
>Im left with 15k almost Dead fleet, the pride of our navy.
>We brought IT on ourselves, war took away to many of our cuttlefishian kind.
> But We will overcome IT, just like we always do.

> Continue>>

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The biggest project of our lifetimes, just need some minerals first

>>174068427
Are you the Foxy science ships guy?

>>174068423

Rp aside, IT was awsome, but now im not sure if anything Will beat IT, seriously.
And what the hell happend with my admiral, he later appeared on the leader tab like he just teleported out from the battle.

>>174068427
In my recent Sol game I had a size 24 gaia world
(with >>174068290 this shit, coincidentally enough)
on barnard's star, which I made my capital. I renamed the system something less shit though.

>Infinity Machine gives sentient AI 20 years in

Ruhroh. Also what does that self exiled scientist do if I accept him? Does he fuck me in any way? The planet he told me to never set foot again was worthless according to the event.

>Playing Aurora 4x
>Moving my main fleet (Ion Age) to deal with swarm that just took out a survey ship.
>Suddenly have a active sensor contact
>Single ayyy ship
>Its speed is 15km/s
>Fuck
Next hour of game time in 5 seconds intervals I watch as my entire fleet is made into wrecks.
>Only survivor is a FAC who life support almost fails as it stuffed with survivors from my fleet before it can reach a colony.

Guess it time to mine the jump points and wait till I tech up.

Also, this is the right place for Aurora 4x?

good playlist for each government type when

>>174068712
Is that a mod?

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>>174068663
this is secretly aurora general

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>>174067974
>>174068290

>do the "turn giants into burgers" research
>they bring FREEDOM to my colony

>>174068617
It annoys the shit out of me that you can't terraform colonized worlds. I want to build something like a Fallen Empire core worlds thing around Sol, have a small cluster of systems with multiple ring worlds and gaia worlds.

>>174068147
>too lazy to make the thread himself
>still not too lazy to not whine like a little bitch
Why should I cater to you if you can't make the thread yourself?

>>174068663
>tfw want to play aurora but can't micro for shit
Ah well, always fun to read other people's stories from it.

>>174068659
The Exile? nothing. He's a pretty good one, too.

>>174068490

Yup.

>>174068617

Are the neighboring star systems always named similarly if you start from Sol system? If so, that's a pretty insane start to the game

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>haha time for Stellaris
>five worlds colonized all going well
>alpha/delta/zeta aliens detected
>empire right on my borders is an aggressive fanatic militarist
>the other nearby empires are pacifist or isolationist
>mfw

>>174068867
Good to know. I was thinking of starting up a new game and make ships inspired from the Terran trade authority books as well as my usual collection of ships. Who knows, might make a political simulation on the side to house rule myself being the head of a semi-democracy that priories change after elections.

>>174069039
Yup, they're all systems from our real life astronomical neighbourhood

>>174068659
He murdered a bunch of other scientists and hid their bodies in the basement. I thought it was a The Thing reference, but he never actually does anything if you take him.

>>174068659
Sentient AI is safe as long as you don't use synths or have their rights set to full.

>psifags get cool events
>biofags can't create the perfect lifeform that turns on them and wants to wipe out all inferior life
>robotfags can't open a hole to the shroud through SCIENCE! that lets cosmic horrors flood in to the galaxy
Fucking paracucks.

>>174069027
I have a tendicy to recycle ideas from my old games and put it into new ones. It has a steep learning curve and there no unified way of doing things, but once you learn it it rather simple.

Civ V question.

This is my first 4X game, but I'm getting pretty good at it. Emperor difficulty feels pretty right at the moment, but there have been no victories on that level as of yet.

The main problem as I increase the difficulty is just that I feel like I can't compete with the AI's militarily until about Renaissance. They just always have way more and better units than me as well as having tons of cities and population. It feels like I have to be a turtling, diplomatic little bitchboy up until I can really bring my cities to a point where I outproduce them. Am I doing something wrong, or is that just the way the game works?

>>174069214
No, having their rights set to full just lowers the chance of the AI revolt happening pretty dramatically. It can still happen, but it's a lot less likely. The only way to guarantee that it's never a problem is to never build synths.

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I think the art department didn't get the memo from the writers for this event...

>>174069286
>robotfags unable to go full DALEK on the galaxy

Oh wait, you can

>>174069286
Don't worry, the Shroud monster that spawns with End of Cycles is glitched so its shields don't recover and it dies to the first FE/AE fleet it finds as well as ignores colonisable planets.

>>174069039
Yeah they're all named the same. Randomly generated system contents and distance from you though(might be outside initial borders)

>>174069412
Theres an event where you can permanently lock out the AI revolt while they've got full rights too.

Has anyone tried a challenge run where you're not allowed to colonize other planets? Seems like it could be interesting.

>>174069530
Actually you can't, it's fucking impossible to get rid of materialism once you've gone full-synth, so no f. purifiers.

>>174069671
>Seems like it could be interesting.

Seems like it'd be boring as fuck as you wait for your tiny trickle of resources and unity to get to the point where you can build ringworlds/habitats and you'd basically be at the mercy of the AI never wanting to invade/protectorate you.

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Why does the New Ships and Classes mod have to enable every fucking species as a usable portrait?
Better yet, why does it change every loading screen and the main menu into some shitty ingame screenshot glorifying the mod?

>>174069671

>starved for resources while waiting for the next tech pop up, which is slow as hell
>neighboring systems will rival and kill you off within the first 50 years

Not so much, no

>>174069825
Fanatic Purifiers seems needlessly restrictive to me. The only requirement should have been xenophobe.

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so with this fleet can i take on the FE next to me? note it isnt an AA yet.

>>174069412
>>174069598

Looks like my plans of going with synth ascendancy and having sentient robot friends are in full effect.

>>174069108
I want to start a new game but C# is so close, I don't know anymore.

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Doing well but apparently Sol didn't spawn in this galaxy so I lost most of my will to play.

>>174070036
>so close
to never coming out?

>species rights are hardcoded
>can't fix purifiers myself
Fuck you, paracucks.

>>174070009

Post ship designs.

>>174070036
True, but has he said firmly how far away it is?

I have a week off of work, so it really tempting. Hell, Let me start a game up.

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>he doesn't make seperate specialized ship classes for each size class
>he doesnt go full fleet admiral

What are you, gay?

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HAK HAK HAK

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how do I free my species' pops yet retain slavery?

>>174070179
vettes are plasma boats
cruisers:
half are an all plasma variant
the other half have 3 plasma ports plus 3 flak ports
b-ships
mostly arc emmitters with kinetic artillery and flak, with some pure plasma/kinetic artillery ships to boot.
i have the max shield/power and a +83% fire rate

>>174069286
This is the only thing that makes me upset about the game. Psionic is basically THE only truly cool path to take. Genetics could of been so much better. And robotics starts out great, but then instantly flatlines after your first perk.

Can't wait for conversion mods.

>>174070395
In stellaris in the Race menu

>>174070395
Set their rights to citizenship, set other species pops to caste or slavery.

>>174070476

Seems doable, good luck.

>>174070476
>+83% fire rate

how?

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Well off to start a big game of Aurora 4x.

>Yes, I am doing a conventional start
>it will be 10 years of Sol.

Is there a place where I can learn the basics of stellaris ? Played a lot fo Civ V but this is quite different. I can't get around making non-shit ships for example.

Any youtube channel you'd recommend?

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>>174062631
wtf how did this happen? there are only 3 pops of the jhoolian goons and those are slaves

how the fuck did this happen? how did my entire populace become slaves to themselves?

>>174070748
Are you keeping the defaults except more pop and labs? Eww.

>>174070787
mushroom'd :^)

>>174070861
Yea, just noticed that and deleted before I started.

What do you recommend as a fun start? I prefer Conventional starts.

>>174070710
fanatic purifiers + militarist + supremacy + admiral = 33 + 10 + 15 + 25 = 83

Is there a way to force the Horizon Signa event?

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these should be banned

>>174070787
It's a bug. People seem to think it's caused by the event allowing you to give other species in your empire the Psionic trait, which also rejiggers who the game thinks the "founding" race was.

>>174070924
wtf all my factions also dissapeared and now everyone is unhappy

>>174071167
well RIP this play through, lets see if I can still win before I lose with a death march

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>>174070501
Genetics should have gone into have uprisings against your genetically altered pops by base pops, or an FE appearing to stop you 'tampering with nature', or focused on the whole weaponised xenomorph thing and have your scientists accidentally produce some super-organism that starts to overrun your planets.

So many directions they could have taken it.

Even 40k directions where your gene warriors decide that, since they're superior to your regular pops, they should be the ones running the show.

>>174069387
I haven't played CiV in 6 years but yeah, that sounds about right. I dialled it right back to King because I found that more enjoyable.

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>start game as merchant ferengi spiders
>EXPAND
>nope, xenophobe fuckers hate me simply because xenophobes, close borders, war within first 15 years
>they are stronger than me by far but suck at war, they declare the war a tie after 10 years
>nevar furget
>80 years later, decide revenge is needed
>spend last 5 years doing nothing but building ships, i'm still new to this game so I'm sure I could have done much better
>roll in with 10k fleet, destroy every fucking thing in sight
>vassalize his ass

FUCK YOUR SHIT YA FUCKING FAGGOT GOD DAMN IT FEELS GOOD TO BE A GANGSTER

>>174071310
Yeah, if you get that event you basically have to shut it down as fast as possible if you don't want to end up enslaved to your former slaves due to an absurd bug.

>>174070975
noice

have autocannons essentially become beam weapons for you?

What's a RTS with fun base building?

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>>174071165
Grab the more traditions + more ascension perks mods

>>174071329
other cool thing for genetics are genetic failures. some of your pops transform into hideous useless things with all negative traits or some shit

>>174070861
Still open for recommendations

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>>174071465
I wouldn't know, i prefer my plasma machine guns

here goes everything

So Paradox hires you to make some insults towards the various empires in Stellaris, what would your insult be?

>>174072259
Yo momma so fat she has her own gravity field that sucks even black holes in

>>174070953
>>174072073
It's up to you to make shit up that isn't "Terran Federation, 2025", m8.

>>174072117
Do AE's fix their ring worlds when they get angery?

>>174072485
i don't believe they do, last time i took on an AA its ring world was still broken.

>>174072117
If its still asleep don't take any worlds or you'll awaken it and any other FEs. Smash its ports and fleets and then send in science ships to analyse the wreckage so you'll be ready to take its worlds and slap down its awakening.

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>>174072259
> "My name.. is Dante. But you can call me Dante thr xeno killer."
> FUCK YOU

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>>174072602
too late now, i've beat 2 AA before. hell i might be easier now with my insane fire rate.

>>174072259
I'd rip off the cheesiest oneliners from sci-fi and action films I can find.

>>174072259
>"I'd tell you to lick my shit, but for all I know, it may be a delicacy for your people."

>>174072259
> "cuck"

persona mod when

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holy fuck no contest, GG nerds

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Any endless space fags that can give some pro tips and tricks?
Got ES the other day at steam sale and getting better bit by bit.

But how do you merge your fleets and increase invasion power?

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>>174072418
Very well then. Since this is just for fun and screwing around game, I just going to call it a Terran Union.

I am going to do a political system to houserule my play, but unless anons want to know how I am going to work it, I won't bore you with how I am going to do election every 5 years.

>>174073029
How do you have a 93k fleet in 2320?
I'm on 2350 and I almost have a 20k one and it's one of the most powerful in the galaxy

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Que es esto

>Give my neighbours a little nibble because they looked tasty
>accidentally eat them all
>everybody hates me because of genocide

Such is the life of a poor hive mind

>>174071520
Can't find a "more ascension perks" mods, which one is it?

>>174073341
rape incarnate

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>>174073171
it's prolly more like a 60k fleet, my cuh-razy fire rate (+83%) likely boosts it. i also have most of the big end-game techs.

citizen service and good econ explain the fleet cap.

>>174073605
Post proof you're playing Ironman

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I'm trying to come up with a brawler battleship that gets up, close and personal while the other battleships hammer the shields away.

Any suggestions how to do this? This is what I now have. It's been working alright so far, but I've been thinking of doing away with the shields altogether to make this ship more expendable and cheaper. Rest of my fleet is focused on having a balance of shield and armor, so I figured maybe my frontline battleship would benefit from being armor focused entirely since enemy's arsenal would be focused on destroying shields.

>>174073127
I'm interested in knowing what you're going to do for elections, desu.

>>174072259
Even The Worm doesn't love you.

>>174073819
This one wins

>>174073356

>conquer neighbors early on
>purge them by turning them into a food source, kickstarting the growth of your own pops
>only one civilization around who witnessed the purging
>all the other xenos you meet later on don't know anything about the purge

Talk about a perfect crime

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>>174073694
i only have a flag mod and undiverse humanities mod.

Why does this game start in 2200? We're going to have a tech singularity by 2050. What a load of crap.

>>174073171
I've got a 60k fleet in 2326 however, my naval force limit is 601/840 while his for some reason is just 509 and has fucking 93k power.

>>174073047
invasion power is from bombardment weapons, troops, and bombers

>>174073921
What the fuck am I doing wrong then? Why do I have a 20k fleet in 2350 (ish) and there's only 2 Empires that are "Superior" to me.

It's my first game as well.

>>174073897
>we won't have a continent-wide intifada in Europe by then

>>174073897
what the fuck. post your fleet. what's your tech like?

>>174073171
>>174073921
What the fuck are you nerds doing? It's 2310 and I have 160K, I'm about to turboshrek a fanatic xenophobe FE before it awakens.

>>174073897
tech singularity sucks


I want to develop stands

>>174073738
Okay let me write it up. Give me a sec

>>174073405
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=902368210

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>>174073897
>muh singularity

>>174074098
Well right now i'm in the process of upgrading my fleet but the whole thing would take 41k minerals while my cap is 27 so i had to split them up and they take seemingly forever to upgrade.
Also my game got extremely slow

>>174073951
Coo, I'll look into researching those.

>Not inventing Fusion until 2200s

That's the biggest science fiction about this game. We're going to be fully synthetic (or extinct) by 2055.

Dropped hard.

>only have 14 pops
>5 of them "randomly" switched to an ethic that isn't one of my core ethics
>on my fucking homeworld

GREAT GAME 10/10

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Does anyone else here have that problem where you get all your ships together to split them into fleets, but then you just keep the ships in a big ass clump because managing fleets in this game is fucking shit?

>>174074297
Probably extinct

>>174074297
fusion was invented in the 80's

we won't go extinct by 2055
certainly we won't come anywhere near "synthetic" for hundreds of years

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Post the settings you usually play on.

I found these to work best for me, since there are just enough empires for the mid game to be interesting and there's constant wars going on. I alternate between hyderdrive and warp. Warp for a less strategic and laid back/random game.

>>174074297
ahah

no

>>174074070

You don't want to have too big of a fleet either, it might awaken FEs. Might be your ships are shit which lowers your fleet power, or you simply do not have the force limits to maintain big enough fleet. Shouldn't worry about it too much though as long as it's stronger than whatever your rivals have.

>>174074108
Neat.

>>174074120
Thanks m8.

>>174074206
I have 800+ naval capacity, but the tradition that gives you 20% of your vassals' capacity gave me an extra 200 recently, I doubt I'm going to use it any time soon. Fleet was reaaally expensive and currently uses about 600. I have 20 battleships, 80 cruisers, 120 destroyers and 160 corvettes. At least the corvettes are cheap.
It's hard on my energy though.

>>174074459
You're phone will be in your brain within ten years.

>>174074312
And if your people are strong, you'll probably get militarist faction before pacifist even if it's your governing ethic.

>>174074563
I don't have a phone

If you buy the base game and pirate the dlc, can you still go ironman and go for all the achievements?

>>174074563
I don't have a brain

>>174074497
Small, spiral (2 arms), hyperlane only, clustered spawns, ironman on, crisis, advanced neighbours off, 2x habitable worlds, 2 fallen empires (one more than default for small), nothing else changed.

>>174073897
And everyone will have flying cars by 2000!

>>174074563
I'm not a phone. You're a phone.

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>>174074741
>>174074563
>>174074630
>>174074681

>>174074725
Even more grounded near future sci-fi always ends up being optimistic.

>>174074554
I'm focusing on production, i've got 800+ minerals a month with my ships in orbit around a planet and like 400 when they are not.
With an edict if i'm at war i can get up to 1000+ minerals a month
Also focusing on energy credits so i don't go into minus when at war.
Also i wish that you could trade food or something because i get like 120 a month and i've been at 5k for years

>>174074640
I've done that, activated it all on Steam and I'm not getting achievements. They're all dogshit though.

>>174071329
I agree, the biological path should be full of negatives. Only the psionics path should actually be a net positive.

>>174075021
>trade food
You can trade food with other alien empires, monthly food for monthly minerals, try it.

>>174071680
a zombie apocalypse thing where you have to move troops to combat the "uprisings" and get ships into orbit to bombard them etc. Would be cool.

>>174075264
Nobody likes me though, i was talking about trading them with those trader empires.

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>"They are Fanatic Purifiers!"
>they're clearly Hegemonic Imperialists
>they're also my bitches

I should have just conquered them

>>174073738
There will be a lower house (The Union Parliament) that gets elected every 5 years (on years ending on 0 and 5). Whoever has the Majority (and there might be coalition) forms the policy.

There will be a upper house consisting of "Senators for life". The Senate Will consist of 10 sentators from earth (the five major powers of Earth), plus 1 from any colony more then 5 million people. If a colony reaches 100 million people, they get 2 senators.

In addition, the political parties using a formula get to appoint senators based on there percentage of seats in the lower house. (20% = one seat, and I hold the remainder so for example, a party with 5% of the seats will get a senate seat every 4 years).

One seat in the lower house is created for every 4 million people. Census happens every 10 years (on years ending in zero). each planet has there own vote for their seats. (So there a earth election, mars election, and so on).

Next post will be about the parties.

>>174075365
Having pet Fanatic Purifiers is hilarious though

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>laughing at the idea of flying cars and chips in brains

>>174075264
Its pretty rare to find an empire that will actually give it value though.

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>>174074887
Demolition man. More or less what we have now but with a rich upper class living the equivalent of what we have today with a massive unemployed destitute class which does not participate with the economy in any way.

The future looks more and more like a few thousand rich and the rest of humanity being subsistence farmers and scavengers.

>>174075472
Flying cars will never be practical.
Brain and body augments however are achievable in our current lifetime.

>>174075585
>Flying cars will never be practical.
wat

>tfw i don't play ironman because i can't stand those monthly savegames
Seriously they annjoy the fuck out of me.

What fleet comp for lategame?

>>174075654
They don't offer much benefit and any form of failure could be catastrophic.

>>174075585
prostethics will never be superior to the real thing either, and will just come with a huge host of problems you don't want

they're only useful if you have lost your original

>>174075820
Are you just pretending to be retarded?

>>174075413
Wew. Good luck with all of that.

>>174074887
>>174075538
Read "Manna" by Marshall Brain.

>>174075719
ratio of 100:0:0:0 per fleet

>>174075716
>trying to justify using the console to get loads of sweet minerals and shit
Just admit it bro I do it too.

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>>174075719

>>174075893
Theres no real reason for them with how our cities are structured, they'd just be overly expensive and dangerous.

>>174075716
There's almost 0 reason to play ironman for many times past the few runs. I doubt too many people here even play it

>>174076049
I could imagine them getting reasonably practical when population keeps growing but the only space left to build is up, so we'd end up with cities with tall as fuck buildings, so having 3-dimensional "skyways" would be more practical than trying to figure out how to deal with the traffic on a two dimensional road network.

>>174075909
Manna is hoplessly optimistic in thinking welfare will continue to exist in the future.

>>174076049
Holy shit bro you need to stop playing your space ship game, get off 4chan and get on the phone to Uber to tell them that. Do it now before they go bankrupt you fucking mong

>>174076270
That would make them practical but hopefully when we start building that degree of up (into borderline arcologies) we'll incorporate better urban planning into it so public transport links will suffice for most people.

>>174076331
Uber are preparing for self driving cars not flying cars you retard.

>>174075413
Political parties will have the following positions that impact game play.

Fleet: Numbers vs. Quality.
Parties that like numbers will build a lot of ships, and rather build then upgrade. Quality will upgrade ships and scrap bad ones to clear up manpower.

Shipyards vs. PDCs: Shipyards - want to build shipyards, PDC - want to build PDCs, Mixed, want to build both.

Homeworld vs. Colonies: Parties that are homeworld parties want investments on the homeworld, colonial parties want investments on the colonies.

Carrier vs. Ships of line: Carrier parties want to build carrier task forces. Ships of the line want to build ships not carriers and fighters. There is a mixed option.

Private investment: parties will prefer to support one shipping line, many shipping lines, or no public subsidization.

Expansion vs. consolidation - Expansion parties like to rapidly expand. Consolidation parties like to fully develop systems before exploring and settling new ones.

Xenophobe vs. Xenophile: Self explanatory

Some parties will not have a opinion on a subject.

>>174076331
could you try to formulate a coherent response and provide an actual counter argument instead of flaming?

>ywn fuck a deer

>>174075975
Nah man, though i use some heavily game altering mods like alphamod, extended ships and classes, no sectors and reduced tech penality for pops and planets mainly cause i've got like 20 colonies.

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>>174076331

>>174076520
>That would make them practical but hopefully when we start building that degree of up (into borderline arcologies) we'll incorporate better urban planning into it so public transport links will suffice for most people.

I would rather hope that we'll be in space long before that becomes the norm for city-building globally.

>>174075909
Thing is I really only have to do some math every 5 years of game time. Which is rather simple. It just takes some setup.

I will also post this crap over on the offical forum to keep track of everything.

>>174076571
Theres nothing stopping you anon.

>>174074372
at most I'll split them into two so I can invade 2 planets at once with 2 split armies, but any more is a pain in the tushy

>>174076571
Shiiiiiet

>>174076520
>you retard.
Don't call people retards if you're not very well informed, anon.

>>174076713
the deer is 2D

>>174076571
>ywn fuck a qt space alien

>playing Stellaris and watching Star Trek
Getting pretty comfy here, guys.

Also about 600 years more advanced than the Federation, in a fraction of the time.
Their research malus must be pretty high with all those ridiculous races and their ridiculous planets. Also, Bajorans incur a 120% increase in all base research costs.

>>174076665
We might well be in space but it depends if the space emigration can keep up with birth rate, which it may well do with how birth rates collapse.

>>174076331
Flying cars are a meme and unneeded

what we need is a self-regulating network of roads driven by self-driving cars with peak efficiency.
You would be able to call an ai-cab, be in one within 2 minutes and drive at insane speeds to your destination without the asshole rip-off cab drivers

hey guys should i research sentient AI as a spiritualist empire?

>>174077029
yes
you should always research sentient AI, contrary to what the game tells you it's not actually dangerous until you research actual synths.

>>174076965
>Flying cars are a meme and unneeded
stop telling me bro tell uber fast they might give you a monetary reward for saving them from bankruptcy

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XCOM is coming for me, am I fucked?

>>174076830
Something I miss from Master of Orion is science labs in my ships. I would put those things in all my human ships and pretend I was starfleet even though it wasn't efficient at all.

>>174077137
Don't be silly anon.

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>tfw you realize there are more synths than actual founder species in the empire

Go ahead then boys, have your freedumbs.

>>174077128
The general problem with flying cars is that a majority of people can barely handle 2D traffic, add another dimension and things start going to hell, along with that flying cars would actually be called aircraft and thus fall under the air authorities. This means they would need to managed millions of aircraft at a time instead of a dozen super airliners.

>>174077463
Now you can purge your founder species safely.

>>174077503
>he's still talking to me about flying cars

>>174077159
I wish Stellaris had a similar ship design as Galactic Civilization where you select the hull types and then you can slap whatever in them.

I wish I could make a militarized science ship that could go around with a small escort of military ships and do what the science ships do, but do a little more than that.

>>174077503
Of course they'd fall under air authorities, if helicopters fall under them a 70mph+ flying car will.

Of course he won't get it because he's """"""pretending"""""" to be a retard.

>>174068076
yeah you have to build the chip at the academy. There's no way to tell what ships have the bonus and which ones don't so just clone a new ship design and label them that way.

what the fuck is this core system shit i can only control 3 planets?

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>>174068663
I too remember my first encounter with Swarm Matriarch :)

>>174068812
Colonizable Home System mod.
Works great with Pre FTL players.

>>174069441
I dont get it.. it is largely intact.

>>174074372
No, I split them into multiple fleets just to avoid having to wait four months for warp cooldown.

You're right that the management of fleets is shite though.

Trying to get into SMAC. 2 questions. Is there a decent widescreen mod? Is there a way to make unit control not be a pain in the ass?

>>174075065
Don't be obtuse.

>>174078030
no and no

>>174078030
the numpad is a pain?

>>174075585
https://futurism.com/the-worlds-first-production-ready-flying-car-is-finally-here/

Terran Union Aurora4x game vote

2100 Vote:

Conservative Union:
Numbers, Mixed, Homeworld (Earth), Ships, Many, Expansion, Xenophobe

60% of the vote: 120 seats

Christian-Islamic Democrats:
Quality, PDC, Homeworld (earth), Carriers, none, Consolidation, Xenophile

20% of the vote: 40 seats

Communist Party of China and Korea: Numbers, PDC, Homeworld, Ships, One, Expansion, No Opinion

16% of the vote: 32 seats

Green Party: Quality, Shipyards, Colonies, NO, none, Consolidation, NO

4% of the vote: 8 seats.


So Policies in the first five years will be

Numbers, Mixed, Homeworld (Earth), Ships, Many, Expansion, Xenophobe

>>174077538

I was thinking about taking modifying them genetically into super-beings.

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>tfw these numbers

>>174077137
Just invade the little shits. See how they like a ten-strong stack of xenomorphs.

>>174078193
doesn't look practical for the average driver

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>give synthetics full rights
>all is good
>eventually get mind uploading perk
>all is better
>suddenly and randomly synthetics are enslaved again
>I have no ability to change it because I had already made them free
whatafug
come the fuck on now

>>174078361
Paradox are good developers.

>>174078272
> Firing line so long ships at one end can't target ships on the other end
When will ships stack up instead of laying on a plane?

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r8 my borders

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Alright niggas lets make a race
First of all, what will our appearance be?

>>174078329
As someone else has been saying, Uber doesn't agree with you.

>>174078502
Juffowup.

>>174078502
Venus Fly Trap

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>>174078435

It triggers me tremendously to play a game based in space that handles that kind of shit like that as if there was a 2d plane.

>>174078502
Butterfly

>>174078502
Space Babe.

>>174078502

Fox
We want the furry audience

>>174078502
Geico Gecko

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>>174078570
>>174078609
We can work these in together, it has blue balls on it so it counts as juffowup right?

now I'll need a name, plural and name list (any ingame or real work countries)

Is there a mod that adds the spider races without buying the Nova version.

>inb4 pirate

So is it gud?

>>174078991
holy shit what name mod?

Venetian

>>174078502
>Humanoids get cool scifi suits
>Humans get shitty bland uniforms

ffs Paracucks

>>174078991
Sarmatian names

>>174078991
/pol/
/pol/s
/pol/lacks

And uses the real Venetian names

>>174078213
I'm not sure my autism can handle yours. Good luck tho.

>>174078435
>tfw Star Ruler's 3D formations.

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>Stellaris is my first Paradox game and I love the shit out of it
>Sale on Paradox games goes up
>CK2 looks like Stellaris but you have to track seven million characters
>Eu4 looks like Stellaris but with seven million buttons and modifiers

W-which one would be easier for a new player?

>>174078727
there is a 2D plane in this game

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Please tell me that those faggots will eventually go away ...

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>>174079064
>>174079207
Going for this, now, what will the traits be of our great /pol/ overlords? name 1 and I'll pick the first 2 (or 3) replies

>>174079402
Personally I like CK2 better.

Victoria 2 is the best Paradox game though

>>174078423
I'm probably going to get a fucking uprising, and the game itself will not allow me to fix it

>>174079402
EU4

>>174079402
I'll tell you if you promise not to buy them. Paradox deserves no money.

>>174079402
I don't know where that is from

>>174079464
decadent

>>174079402
EU4.

CCK2 is way too random.

>>174079486
He said for a new player. Don't be like my cousin.

>>174079437
You're stuck with them forever, bud.

>>174079464
Nonadaptive.

MUST HAVE STELLARIS MODS PLEASE RED PILL ME

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>>174079495
>prohibit slavery
>they're still fucking enslaved

>>174079437
What species mod?

Also, you can suppress them.

>keepers of knowledge just awakened when I only control about a quarter of the galaxy
Should I be afraid?

>>174079656
Blue UI, if its updated for the patch

>>174079756
what's your fleet power?

>>174079793
~80k total.

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>>174079686
>What species mod?
Space Babes from Skymods

>Also, you can suppress them.>>
Already did that.

>>174079621
>You're stuck with them forever, bud.
Fuck me running ..

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>>174079464
>>174079595
>>174079621
Any positive racial traits? we've got 5 to spend

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>>174079829

>>174079402
CK2 is an extreme roleplaying game where your strategy is actually to manage a family through the ages. Conquering stuff is a side game.

EU4 is medieval through renaissance through enlightenment warfare, blobbing and conquering.

They are both decent at what they are meant to do.

>>174078213
Oh god, you're that guy, kek. Glad I can at least read it all on the forums in a more convenient format.
I thought the only other one on the official forums was the one with the soviet officer avatar.

>>174079656
Separate Human Phenotypes lets you play whites only with corresponding names

>>174079829
you'll need to get that up to 120k to take on one AA fleet, and then recuperate losses afterwards.

>>174079869
How much I need? I only have 1000 naval capacity.

>>174079867
Natural Sociologists (if they are slave keepers and man eaters they know all about life)

Alright just bought Utopia.
What kinda build should I do?
Last time was an economic expansive xenophile (which was not a very good combination).

>>174079829
Enjoy capitulation

>>174079656
the real red pill:
no mods can save this game

it's not even that moddable to begin with

>>174079402
EU4 is map painting simulator
Fun when you start small.

CK2 used to be great with Crusades/Jihads, but nowadays it's just The Sims in medieval time. Speed 5 until shit happens.

>>174079997
The hive mind one, to get the boring part out of the way quickly.

>>174080009
They're on the opposite side of the galaxy though. How much do I need to rekt them before another FE awakens? There are 2 others sitting around them.

>>174079997
Fanatic Spiritualist/Xenophile

Everything else is broken.

Is this mod good (balanced :^))?
http://stellaris.smods.ru/archives/3263

>>174080145
You won't be rekting them with an 80k stack.

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>>174079997
try fanatic purifiers and enjoy the plasma machine guns and lebensraum

>>174080249
I know, so how much do I need? 200k? 500k?

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>>174079867
Alright then give me a sex, ruler name, a color variant and a room number between 1-117

>>174080650
Yes.
Yhar'Lar The Great.
Mustard yellow.
57.

>>174080650
male, Joey McNiggerdeath, 1, 2

>>174080371
120k min and you done better fix up your fleet to hard counter them
I'm a fan of corvette suicide rushes when they declare war, to pause and check what their shit is

>>174080650
Variation of fly trap 6
The room with a tropical forest in the background.

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>going thorugh 500 ships by hand to split them into fleets based on ship type, then further split them based on model and finally go through all of them to split them according to what fleet they will join and then actually get all of these fleets wherever their fleet will assemble to form the actual battle fleet.

Holy fucking shit, why doesn't this game have fleet management system? I need an Excel spreadsheet to play this fucking game.

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>>174080650
And thus Yhar'lar the Great, the first of McNiggerdeaths has been born

Now what is their starting world/preference like? and I am gonna need a home & star name

>>174081356
That thing hanging behind Yhar'Lar reminds me of Castlevania : Symphony of the Night.

Should I leave the AI to auto-upgrade my ships?

>>174081496
The auto-upgrade box just means if theres spare energy on a build when you research an upgraded version of a component it automatically upgrades it on that build, you can't rely on it.

>>174081356

Tomb world

>>174080650
Mexican Rape Machine

>>174081487
IIRC it's from the KotoR mmo.

>want to play xenophile spirtualist
>always start next to xenophobes
>re-reroll several games
>start next to a xenophile spirtualist and a xenophile FE

FUCKING FINALLY. Also Discovery + Automated Exploration is not a meme, this shit is broken.

>>174081773
What a strange name.

>>174081287
Just doomstack.

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>>174079869

>>174081287
Yeah, Stellaris fleet managment system is fucking atrocious.

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>>174081356
>>174081617
>>174081672
>>174081692
Now the part you've all been waiting for, what will the government be like?

>hivemind

>>174081853
>Also Discovery + Automated Exploration is not a meme, this shit is broken.
What's the meme about it?

>>174081995
Make it as close to Modern Day China as you can. Also name your first fleet something to do with Enrico Dandalo.

>>174081853
>rerolling

>>174077463
When that happens, you can change the living standards of your founder species to "chemical bliss". It is the true utopian form of society.

Let the robots do the work. The living populace will chill.

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What happens if I uplift a species and change their planet preference, and they would have less than 40% on their current habitat?

>>174082125
If he wants to have a comfy game let him have a comfy game.

>>174081995
What planet mod are you using?

Also Fanatic Xenophile

>>174082021
idk what's the meme, but with survey corps, everytime a science ship surveys something, you get 33% of your monthly research output as stockpiled for later. Yeah, it's that OP.

>>174081995
fanatic EVERYTHING

Is there a mod to cuztomize your leaders or something?
It's annoying to be a monarchy and the race of your ruler changes with each generation.
And I don't want to play a mono-racial human species too.

>>174082324
>>174082324
Is Survey Corps another RNG tech? I never seem to get any good ones.

>>174082432
It's a tradition, you mong. Under discovery.

>>174082479
Shut the fuck up dick.

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>have 140k power fleet
>the nearby awakened fallen empire is still superior
>unbidden fags at the other side of the galaxy have stacks equal 200k at minimun from what i seen

Huh, and here i thought have mighty fleet. I guess the only thing it will rape will be my credits the second it moves one step from my port.

>>174074563
In order to be so retarded as to let someone surgically insert mechanical devices like a phone into your body you would have to not have a brain to begin with.

>>174081995
Fanatic Purifier. It's the only entertaining one, diplomacy is for cucks.

Recently pops slaves from my planets have started to randomly dissapear. What is this? I was told that they are fleeing or something but i'm not at war and most aren't unhappy.
No rebellions, no events no nothing. What's going on how do i stop this?
I have no sectors and i may have set it so that only citizens can settle in core worlds, could that have anything to do with this?

>>174082726
People beg every day for private companies to take their detais and sell them.
People have invited megacorporations and the government into their private lives at the most intimate level.

People - including you, your family and your children - will invite these same megacorporations and government arms into your flesh and into your grey matter.

No need to reply with a protest, you won't change my mind. Just mark my words.

>>174081356
what is that planet types mod?

What if they changed the psionic/synthetic/biological ascension paths so that you could have the first level of all of them?

So you could get:
>flesh is weak
>engineered evolution
>mind over matter
all at once, if you were willing to spend the points.
But you wouldn't be allowed to have the second level of any of them.

So either you dedicate to one path and get both levels or you go for all of them and get locked out of any of the top levels.

>>174082914
Citizens only should be fine if your slaves are of your main species, if not, yeah, no surprise the xeno slaves can't stay.

>>174082613
Enjoy sucking extra-dimensional dick. Don't forget to work the balls.

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>>174079915
hahah

Well Venus might actually be worth mining this game - my Geo team did really well.

>>174082106
>>174082272
I guess china comes close
>>174082970
Using Planetary Diversity for planets and Cybrxkhn's Assortment of Namelists for Stellaris for names

>>174082332
Sorry cba to close the game to add more ethic points

Give me an
>Empire Name & Adjective
>Flag type, number between 1-24
>Primary & Secondary color
>Background

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Look at these pasty nerds.
Sweden is doomed, none of these guys could ever be used as soldiers to fight off the invading muslums.

>>174083045
I'm sure I can count on one hand the number of times I had minerals with an accessibility over 0,3 on Venus.

>>174079756
I've had the war of heaven happen
Two FE awoke and declared war on each other. They are at like the opposite side of the galaxy from each other (1k stars)
I remained neutral, the FE next to me made a federation against them but have peaced out already. Nothing has happened to me yet.

Are regular torpedoes bad?

>>174083239
Very. Can't hit anything smaller than a cruiser and even small amounts of PD will crush them.

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>>174083169
Forgot img

>>174083339
And energy torpedoes can't be shot down by PD, right?

>>174082954
>you will be so retarded as to openly let them insert shit into you

Yes anon of course, even though in my day to day life I avoid giving out my information as much as possible within reason clearly I'll allow for an intrusive surgery of a device which can track me wherever I go and I can't remove without another intrusive surgery. Makes perfect sense.

>implying you're not just being an autistic fag because you want Bladerunner and a bunch of other shitty syfy movies to be real

>>174083228
Indeed - I have a .3, but I was like "Lets send a geo-team since I am going to be sitting around for 10 years not doing much since it is a conventional start, and lo and behold this happens.

I will start to make a long range plan to build some automines and get them to venus, once I start building some actual colonies.

Makes up for Luna and Mars being crap-nothing outside of the ruin I put on mars for fun.

>>174083339
What about the energy torpedoes?

>>174083183
Dunno man, one of them killed a bear and is wearing his head as a cap.
But three of them will definitely wear the burqa. Or hijab.

>>174083436
Do you send geo teams to bodies with no minerals too? They seem to have as much chance of finding stuff as on those with minerals, but, that takes time.

>>174073341
Weaker if you attack near the right colored sun.

Sorry for the dumb question, but is there any RTS where you're always busy and not just waiting for ressources to stockpile? Sometimes I feel like every game I play sooner or later turn into a waiting game.
>AoE2
>Etherium
>Warcraft 3
>Supreme Commander (one and two)
>Starcraft
>Warlords Battlecry (one, two and three)

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>>174083183
>Implying any kind of meatbag will have any place on the battlefields of the late 21st century

>>174083404
>>174083454
Energy torps are slightly better due to being immune to PD but you'll still waste tons of dps from torps flying at ships that explode before they reach the target.

>>174083752
What colour fampai

>>174083990
Whats that gif from?

>>174084334
looks like a blomkamp film

>>174083896
if you're waiting for resources to stockpile in supcom you are doing it wrong

Since synthetic ascension is so shit I'm playing with some Stellaris modding
>changed Mechanist so it gives you droid tech instead of tier 1 robots
>pops are being built 3-4 times faster after synthetic ascension
>merge old synthetics into new robo race so there's no two robot species in your empire

any ideas about other tweaks?