/scg/edg/scedg/ Elite Star:Dangerous Citizen general #153

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>no planets or netcode fixes planned for 3.0

>>174045535
But their are netcode fixes.

Also "Outside of the work on Squadron 42, we have a few research projects that, once validated, we would move into production and add to this schedule."

>No new netcode in 3.0
Dead on arrival

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https://robertsspaceindustries.com/schedule-report

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/15833-Monthly-Studio-Report

http://mailchi.mp/cloudimperiumgames/the-road-ahead-the-30-production-schedule?e=8cde2ef12f

Is mining going to be in 3.0?

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>>174045956

>>174045956
Most likely.

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Reposting fun

>>174045206
I knew NMS would be disappointing when I saw it was made in a SPORE like procedural generation
I don't even know if it could be fixed by making an entire gameplay around terraforming planet. The game is just half-done.

I've got high expectation from Subnautica, and hope from OSIRIS:New Dawn

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Cruiser/Battle Cruiser/Battleship when.

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How are you liking the Elite Dangerous: Commanders™ update so far, CMDRs?

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>>174046126
Javelin is a Destroyer for all I know
Also waiting to see
- Frigate with gun and shield
- Cruiser, speedier than the Bengal but packing as much firepower

Cruiser/Carrier would be this pict.
I wonder when they'll blown our mind revealing they worked on it for years.
Thoughts: Why is second carrier needed?

Of course as navy-in-space go the Bengal is more of a Battlestar "do everything"

[/rambling]

>>174046334
It's great, my wife's son and I went exploring in multicrew on my trusty cobra!
Fly safe, CMDR! o7

>>174046572
Cuck!

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NO dissent allowed ok

*buys jpg*

>>174047002
>>174047249
Cultist is the only word to describe these cunts.
Can't wait to board their ships and rape them.

"The worlds we’re creating are massive, and giant planets mean we need a lot of eyes (and mice, keyboards and flight sticks) making sure they’re up to par."

Don't forget to visit our cash shop and spend your UEC (1000 = $1), maybe pick up a single size 3 gun which costs 18,000 UEC! Or maybe race a few times on our terrible course so you can rent one for 7 (SEVEN) days (WHOLE DAYS)!

For immersion purposes and technical details which we won't go in to, we had to wipe your alpha currency from your account with this minor patch, so feel free to come and test all our bugs by running those same individually-crafted missions you've done before.

I'd like to thank our community for sticking with us in recent attempts by Derek Smart and goons from criticizing us taking 5 years to have nothing to show, and for accusing us of hiding the fact that 3.0 doesn't even exist. As you can clearly see, our version of 3.0 is a minor patch holding basically 4 barren moons and no other planets, so we are on the winning side of history. We're looking forward to the next 2 months as we make Star Citizen even better. o7

>>174046126
>Javelin "destroyer"

>only has point defense turrets, no large guns

What's the point.

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>>174047379
Who cares about the shit design of their ships if they don't even have a game to use them in? You're basically arguing about jpgs at this point.

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>>174047298

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>>174047479
>You're basically arguing about jpgs at this point.

What else we gonna do.

>>174047379
>>174047598
It very clearly has 2 massive guns on top and bottom.

I'm not even downloading 3.0. It's an insult at this point.

>open development

>>174047002
Did you check the large "schedule"? It's what some poor production girl has done in excel after lunch break. There's lot of random things and especially when you take a look at the graphics section, the brown color, it states some weird contradicting schedules just slapped around so it looks like they have everything together... This schedule is pure fiction.

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>>174047334
Thank you master

>>174047598
>a turret buried between engines
>can't turn, can't hit anything


And it only took 5 years to build this ship. Imagine what they can do with another 5 years.

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Good thread, full of funny comments.

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>>174047786
Jesus

I don`t want to sound like a perve or anything, but...Males in Character Creation...

Have you noticed they have no... package?

Seriously, man, I noticed it pretty much straight away. These men don`t have anything down there. It don`t look normal. i`m an artist and when I draw men you have to make a space for their `package` or they`re females- Or eunuchs.
I know I`ve set myself up for lots of ribbing, but I have to point this out.

Next episode I`ll be pointing out how women`s chest area (sheesh stop with the censorship already!) is ridiculously flat.

You guys are making a hen out of a feather, the other systems will rapidly come together once they have a template to work from

>>174047878
What if I want to create transsexual pilot? I would expect that in the future we would have transcended gender politics altogether.

>>174047925
>I would expect that in the future we would have transcended gender politics altogether.

Right, we settled on two genders

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Hmmm what could Com be?
Infact zooming into a lof to the schedule shows a lot of random/generic names with no real dates set.

>>174047905
Look at the schedule. It will take a minimum of 2 years before the basics are in. Before they can even begin the work of populating the systems with missions and assets, which will take another 2 years easily.

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This is just amazing

>>174047726
The turrets are stored between the engines when in a non-combat state. Their firing arc isn't particularly great though. CIG has a history of putting turrets in hampering positions and making them hard to use i.e. the Constellation, the Retaliator

>>174047878
faggot

>>174048149
>no u
>deal with it
Uhm, Brian Chambers said 3.0 had mining.

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>>174048149
>complaining about shit that was never even planned for 3.0

these autists bitch about anything

>>174047590
next they'll be asking for the toilets to actually function for their scat fetish

>>174048441
Nigger, over the past 2 months the lead developers have been saying that mining is going to be in 3.0. Then, all of a sudden, it isn't. Now they;re damage controlling.

>>174047590
he's right you know

even a bit of text goes a long way towards immersion when you get a bad outcome

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>>174048662
just heightening those game experiences

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Anyone else laugh at this part?

>>174048663
>getting emotionally invested over something an employee said in some lightning round bullshit video

they really are wasting effort on people

>>174049180
It's desperation.

>>174046443
Thats an escort carrier. Cruisers, Battlecruisers and the Dreadnought have all been confirmed as existing separate from that.

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>>174047590
these people always have low post count.

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>>174045535
>>174045585
>No new netcode in 3.0
New /scg meme?

>>174049180
Chris Roberts, Brian Chambers, and that squirrely guy in LA said that mining will be in.

>>174049604
Why you retards are only interested in ships and ships and ships? How about the game...which is NON-EXISTENT?

>>174049787
because these cucks actually spend money on the ships like they're virtual figurines

>>174049787
What do you want to talk about, anon?

>>174047379
>Point defense turrets

For a ship of it's size they are kinda small yeah, but the smallest of those turrets are more or less the size of an Aurora, and the bigger ones are almost as big as 2 Freelancers side by side.

guys i want to set up an exploring ship in E:D

am i gonna regret getting the diamondbackx instead of waiting to have enough for the aspx?

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I'm about to pull the trigger with a starter pack. Please talk me out of it /scg/

>>174050127
Just get Elite, is far more Dangerous and more fun.

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>>174047379
Guns on modern day Destroyers aren't really that big either.

>>174050117
Depends on what is your goal with exploration.
Long range- you need ASP or better Anaconda.
Fuck around with stars close by- anything

>>174050218
yeah, mostly todays ships have AA guns and then missiles

>>174050127
Prepare for a long, frustrating and unrewarding wait.

>>174049787
What more is there to say/do but wait? Saying the game doesn't exist changes nothing. Despite our complaining on a cantonese bulletin board, the game will still still take just as long.

If you want to talk about something, start a conversation about it. Until then, we talk about what we want, and if that means ships, it will be ships.

>>174050127
Do it, suffer with us

>>174050127
You're better off not even getting it honestly. Two years ago I would've said "wait a year or two for the alpha to become fun" but I would still say the same today.

Just forget about it. Maybe a few years later it might become fun, but for now it's just hell waiting day by day.

>No Hurston
>No MicroTech
>Delayed to 3.2
>Fucking ArcCrop delayed to 3.1
God FUCKING damn it Chris Roberts you fucking bitch.

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>>174050620

Please educate yourselves about game development mmkay

Does anyone know the fastest way to get to an Orca is?

newfig here, is FPS related to server performance in this game?

>Hey guys I know we've broken a lot of promises in the past so instead of giving you release dates I'm just gonna tell you what will be in each patch and we're going to give you weekly schedule updates and it'll be done when it's done because I want to be transparent an honest with you
>cut 90% of the shit supposed to be in 3.0
>delay that content over the next two major patches
>no mention of prefessions other than the fact that the Prospector will be flyable
These guys are really stretching my good faith.

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>>174050127
You shouldn't do it because there's alternative like Elite:Dangerous, a space-truck simulator with 0 depth, procedurally generated boringness and a clear VISION about increasing grind at any opportunity so as to increase artificially the time you'll spend doing the only gameplay available : getting bigger ship.
If that's not your style you can also fight robot Sentinel on the 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 planets of No Man's Sky, much more than Star Citizen's ~100 systems (300 planets at best) and its dozens of hand-made city-spaceport.

There's no reason to take a starter pack for SC because SC is only a cheap content/features oriented MMO with no subscription which will have more gameplay than typical AAA game even half-complete.

And don't get me started about getting a Single Player campaign which is unlikely to fail because it's what his maker Chris Robert used to do when he made Game-of-the-year winning award. That dude left a game half-made (Freelancer) which turned out alright and is still played now, can you believe it?

So yeah, there's absolutely no point getting two AAA+ game for cheap when they'll probably sell for 80$ each in a few years.

I mean, just look at this ugly screenshot from an in-game demonstration, just an entire planet with biomes, plant, wreck? We've only seen one animal and it was a giant worms, as if you mixed Star Wars and Dune in an FPS game with space-simulation.

Make your choice.

So what's the deal with the Bucc /vg/? Shitters can't stay alive or actually a bad ship?

>>174051240
>2 ml of Chris Roberts semen has been sent to your basement

_____Kong_____

>>174051894
I love the classics

So is it true that those Ved guys voted for Hillary? I remember seeing a recruiting post in the last thread.

>>174049565
Hello, please look at
>>174048441

>>174052404
It was said after this, niglet

i'm 10kly out from the bubble, heading straight to Sag A*, literally encountered fuck all apart from a few water worlds and one earth like. The centre still way off though

>>174049787
>Why do you talk about the part that exists instead of the part that doesn't?
Gee, I fucking wonder

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>Every time there's an announcement or something a slew of trolls track down the thread to shitpost
Pathetic

>>174048663
>Then, all of a sudden, it isn't.
The Prospector is planned to be flyable. Mining is still in.

>>174052924
Kasumi Tendo best Tendo

Akane ok tier

Nabiki shit tier

>>174053076
Oh man I totally forgot how stealth mechanics came with the Hornet Ghost and Cargo mechanics went in once we could fly the Freelancer.
>Zooms off in his docked Merlin launched from a Constellation

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Start the video at 5:47

Then come back to the thread, delete your shitposts and we'll pretend it never happened.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Py_79FwcA40

>>174053297
drones will defend this

>>174053297
>battranny

>>174053297
Still isnt going to happen.

>>174053649
Maybe you missed the point, we're getting called autists by someone who says people are complaining. We're simply pointing out that Mining was going to be in 3.0 before this latest update, as stated by a lead developer.

It's a matter of fact, simply.

>>174053794
This.

I don't even know why they mentioned it was going to be in, why bother?

Wouldn't have been much of a fuss if they stuck to what it originally was

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Reports of my progress have been greatly exaggerated.

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They sold half a million 300i yet the ship update is not even in the schedule. It will remain completely broken.

Just hilarious.

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*blocks your path*

Well /scg/?

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>>174054192

>>174054331
femchris is almost cute.

>>174054490
Jesus fuck dude, when was the last time you talked to a woman irl?

>try new ED update
>flying fighters for other people is actually pretty fun
>play for a couple hours
>bored again
>uninstall
All I want is a decent MMO about flying space ships, is that too much to ask?
please be good, SC

>>174051240
But why can't I play it

>>174054892
I said almost.

>>174051445
>Shitters can't stay alive
If you are trying to go toe to toe with SH and Sabres, that's kinda the definition of a Bucc shitter. You're faster, accelerate better, turn sharper, and are a smaller target. Quit allowing yourself to get hit, and focus on shooting the engines out of you opponent. Try to be a monkey on their back, but run if you don't have the advantage.

>>174052753
more like
>why are you buying tires for a car when cars haven't been invented yet

>>174054101
The Avenger isn't on there either, and it is old also. Maybe they don't get scheduled if the exterior appearance doesn't change?

>>174055745
Avenger doesn't need half the rework the 300i does.

>>174055812
That's true, but they both need the blended damage states created. Fuck, who knows? Maybe neither will be looked at at all.

So I've had a big break in Elite. Im wanting to get back, but there is so much new stuff, and changes.
Is there any good videoes that can help me get a bit back into it? My ship is and was originaly made for long distance jumping and trading. As trading was the most optimal way getting money way back

>>174056247
Also, is Horizon worth it? Its on sale I noticed

>>174056896
Horizon has never been worth. While in a sense it is hyperbole saying this, it doesn't really add anything to the game.

Will 3.0 come before 2017?

>>174057206
Supposedly, end of June this year.

>>174057206
Yes, one of the stretch goals is a time machine back to 2016 with the 3.0 code

>>174057206
Yeah, by the looks of it. Pretty much as expected they scaled back what they are delivering for the first release quite a lot. Really what we are getting now is item 2.0/cargo + planets. They've already got planets working because german magic, and now it seems the entire of their resources is on the other stuff.

Traps that arent ugly should be the norm in the future

>>174057206
3.0 was gutted. In the same way 2.6 was. Even if it's 3 months away, so what? It's just a couple of moons.

99 more solar systems to go!

>>174057306
>planets

moons, no planets

>>174057547
They're identical from a tech standpoint.

>>174057547
The planet tech is what is working.
What they scrolled back on is landing zones implimented within that, other than maybe Levski.

>>174057547
Basically the same thing, planets will just be bigger and have more details, POI and whatnot. But the base is essentially the same.

>>174057637
Yeah I'm sure 3 completely barren, lifeless balls of rock (with no atmosphere?) are the same as ArcCorp and Crusader

>>174057637
>>174057701
>>174057725

Its not that they aren't roughly the same, its that they said they would be in for months and months now.

I think a big part of this was performance too, so I don't see 3 pretty much identical planets as a proof of concept of ones with actual places to visit rather than just terrain, with nothing but rocks on it to boot.

>>174057784
...They are. Obviously they don't have the air system for rooms working yet, but planets and moons are literally the same to the procedural planet system. Big balls of rocks. What they put on those planets really has very little to do with the procedural planet system.

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>rolling efficient grade 5 on my APAs for my vulture
>random dazzle shell
>random dispersal field
>random plasma slug
>random lock breaker

what the fuck is going on

>>174057908
The planet tech works, and has worked for a long time now anon. The problem is actually building out places like ArcCorp and Hurson.

You may think the planet tech and landing zones are the same thing, but they are not.

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the polaris is presently slated to rank among the highest firepower ships in the game and various aspects of its design forego utility in the name of killing potential. a magazine of 28 maximum-size torpedoes will likely be capable of (if necessary) ablating to grievous extent any known structure or ship if given opportunity for repeated runs and assumed depletion of munition stocks

it can be assumed they'll serve as superheavy strike craft that can project an area of advisable avoidance for most smaller vessels in its immediate vicinity as it rapidly (in comparison to other caps) comes and goes in its mission, hopefully only tailing off when faced with insurmountable screening upon its desired target or when a reasonable level of damage is sustained

factors to consider include its manufacturer, rsi, which creates bricks and has serious lineage in other vessels such as the bengal. a primary concern will likely prove to be the economical and meaningful expenditure of torpedoes as they are liable to simply be shot out if left unattended to a dense screen, miss outright, or be intercepted by some means. (a ship of lesser value may well be expected in some form of engagement one day to take one for the team and position the tip into his face to detonate it then and there, presuming the torp isn't smart enough to not care and careen through them) atop this is the very likely relatively extreme expense in deploying such munitions and the costs associated with keeping them stocked with these primary intended forms of damage dealing.

an additional area of focus could well lie in the diversity of torpedoes to be available to ships with this size of torpedo tube, and whether or not the polaris' loading mechanism could discriminate in which munitions it loads and allow the loading deck officer to choose which types to load in which tubes with any given usage

discuss the best ship

>>174058176
>I figured out the thesaurus feature in Word
Nice blogpost, I'll give my opinion when its more than a 03EPfq0.jpg

>>174058176
kys plax

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>>174059053
All will be rendered unto the collective.

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>>174059053
Namedropping because you can't do shit or have anything relevant to add to the discussion

Truly you have evolved.

>>174059252
calm down geisto

>update to 2.6.3
>infinite loading bug

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>>174059432
>Implying

>>174059673
*grabs you by the throat*

I SAID CALM DOWN

>>174059753
*grabs you by the crotch*

HELLO

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>>174059753

I can't take any more of this autism. I'm outta here.

See you in 5 years for release.

Did they change how assists work in Elite?
I need 1 million worth of combat bonds for engineer and I only get paid if I do substantial damage and stay on the ship for a wile, putting a single shot on ships doesn't seem to do it anymore

>>174060853
Are you tapping them before 0%? Are you getting the last hit? If not, are you winged?

>>174060196
See you tomorrow.

>>174053076
>Starfarer made for refueling
>soon to be a year later
>no refueling mechanics, or even progress

k

>>174060196
Since when did 5 years mean later today?

>>174062527
Are you sure the Fuel task from 4/3/17 to 6/5/17 isn't it?

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Why does the Corvette have a weaker hull than the Anaconda?

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>>174064493

>>174063442
I'm sure what he's saying is that the Starfarer has been in game with no cargo or fuel mechanics for a year, so to say Mining is in because the Prospector is in is incredibly foolish

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>>174064493
because somehow a heavier hull means less armor

>>174051894

>Plaxinov is a literal furry goon
>still probably doesn't know how to park his corvette

CANNOT FABRICATE

>>174064493
>>174064718
>>174065456
Honestly after looking over the ship stats I understand the logic behind Engineers, it feels like the ships were designed entirely by RNG.

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>>174065625
only now do you begin to grasp the vision

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>>174059251
what an uninspired logo

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>>174066689
>not wanting to be a space gop

pls

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>>174066689
I'm sure a lot of things look similar if you edit them to do so, anon

>>174066864
i just flipped the pic upside down then horizontally

>>174061084
Yes and yes. No I'm not in winged.
I was in conflict zone with capital ship on my side and I was only credited for maybe 1 in 4 kills. I changed to low conflict zone without capital ship and 100% kills counted. Must have been the capital shit that messed it up for me

>>174067194
>capital ship
That's your problem. Don't grind in CZs with capital ships, they'll steal all your kills.

>>174062527
>Specifically said it was fast tracked for its involvement in Squadron 42

k

>>174067697
>culting hard to deflect from the point being made

How is illegal actions in Elite now? I just tried out some passangereering, and it was ok, and decently paid. Found an criminal that wanted to move to a place, without getting scanned, but I was dropping off someone and had other passangers. Sadly I didnt note which system it was.
Also, I take it that I neded to fly in to the station without power, incognitomode or whatever it was called.

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>>174067886
>Freelancer in game
>Soon to be four years later
>No cargo mechanics, barely progress

This entire shit is a waiting game. We're getting there. Cargo manifest functionality has to exist before refueling can, and that's on the table for the initial 3.0 drop.

>>174068451
Still missing the basic idea of what that anon was saying, I see

At this point what is an honest estimate for star citizen

10 years?

>>174068895
Late 2019 or early 2020.
No joke.

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>>174068792
Ship to ship refueling systems is also slated for one of the 3.0.x update passes. Mining was always 3.1

We're actually getting refueling early, since it was supposed to be along with mining.

>>174069219
Its impressive to be quite this illiterate, mongo.

>Mining was always 3.1
https://youtu.be/Py_79FwcA40?t=382

We've already been through this

>>174069219
Anon, that roadmap is half a year old and invalidated by the new schedule.

just tried the hornet

the ship literally made for inbreed retards, immortal, fast, and with retarded size guns

>>174069654
no wonder you like it

>>174069403
>>174069481
It's always the best bet to manage your expectations. Game development isn't exactly reliably predictable. Complaining that something isn't in the final plan when it wasn't to begin with and was just something they thought they could accomplish sooner, especially with CIG's track record of "aggressive scheduling," is pure folly.

>>174069654
It's got a small quantum fuel tank and huge heat and em signature, except the ghost.

>>174069956
Okay, you're clearly not getting it.

read
>>174065290
because thats all that anon was saying in the first place. Not necessarily complaining about it being absent, just saying Prospector doesn't mean shit.

and nice backpedaling anyway

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>>174070102
Oh. I missed that part of the conversation as I came in later after reading through the rest of the thread. Eyes must've glazed over. Fair enough, I fucked up. Carry on.

Is 3.0 going to fix the horrible framerates while in the PU

>>174070829
The PU is going away. The 3.0 version of Crusader will be based on megamap and container system, so theoretically, maybe.

It all depends on how everything falls together. It sounds promising, but not too many people understand it well enough to explain it simply, including me.

>>174067886
>t. goon shitposter

Where do I find the UI colour scheme file? I don't have products-folder in my root anymore. And can't find GraphicsConfiguration. in general

>>174069973
It has a bigger ab tank than the Delta

pretty funny actually

>>174049787
one of those things is added to the game when it's ready, the other takes XXXXXXXXX time and is not worth putting effort into being hyped for until it's in PTU

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>>174045535
>>174045585
If 3.0 ships without the full netcode rewrite I'm getting a refund.
This shit has been going on for nearly 2 fucking years now.

>>174077049
>I'm getting a refund.

Did you sign the new ToS?

>>174053297
>bat"girl"

the fact that an openly tranny streamer is acceptable within the SC community - it sure makes us look like shit to anyone on the outside looking in at this shit, or alternatively very attractive to even more mentally ill sexual degenerates

what if the first thing someone sees about SC is a transexual xir/omnisexual spirit child hybrid representing the game? we gonna have a full blown furry streamer next on official SC videos?

>>174077437
I live in Yurop, I don't give a fuck about no fraudulent ToS :^)

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What's the best way to grind credits in elite dangerous?

>>174077564
So do I, and you're shit out of luck if you did.

>>174077658
Again, signing a digital ToS is ultimately meaningless.
Example: Steam trying to refuse refunds for shitty games until Eurolads reminded them they didn't get a choice.

>>174077971
>Example: Steam trying to refuse refunds for shitty games until Eurolads reminded them they didn't get a choice.

I can't get a refund on games I've played for more than 2 hours still, niggydiggy. Nor Early Access titles at all.

>>174078105
You can if you contact them directly to remind them that you wipe your ass with their refund policy.
It's one of those cases of "If we just tell them we don't do refunds they probably won't look into it".

>>174057000
worst possible ship package i've seen to date
especially when you can just stock up on multiples of the actually useful ships in the list for their original prices

Why is one of the moons in Sol locked behind permit?

>>174078292
and you've done this with a purchase 3+ years old that you've put hours and hours into, yes?

>>174078749
You mean a purchase 3+ years old that I'm still waiting to get.

>>174078839
Everything is subject to change, and you've got AC, SM, and the PU :^)

If you take them to court in yuroland you will, as >>174078292 pointed out, wipe your ass with their ToS. The right to a refund no matter the ToS is pretty well established in the EU. Only reason why the current ToS exists as is is because no one has challenged Valve over it yet, because no one has yet been willing to spend a ridiculous amount of money on lawyers and court fees just to prove a point. If Valve does get dragged to court over it they'll lose.

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To the guy that said "gg" when this was only half-funded... gg

>>174078989
Yes I've got a shitty tech demo that can't run smoothly with 16 players, and no promise regarding when I'll get something resembling a game. Your point?

>>174079112
Find me a definition of a game that any of those modes don't qualify for, anonymoose!

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>>174079030
>starfighter inc did it

paint my balls and call me a faggot that's fantastic news for spess gaems and i hope to play it in the future should the dads behind it actually make something from it as it's now subject to the KS song and dance

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>>174079004
>when someone gives you a (You) while agreeing with you
Maybe I'll wait tomorrow to kill myself after all.

>>174079245
>tiny game area with minimal content
>literally no evolution for the past 18 months
>unstable as fuck even with minimal server load
This isn't a game, this is the shit you run in the engine editor to make sure the code you just wrote doesn't break anything.

so wait....CIG outsourced their entire environment art team and then that team just left to work on another game so they had to hire dozens of new people to work on planets? lmao just why

>>174079406
>This isn't a game
Wrong!

>>174077610
anyone?

>>174079531
Shill!

>>174079450
CR needed to set up a big team quickly, so he outsourced basically everything. Ilfonic messed up the FPS module, and left. Now they've moved a lot of stuff in studio. They outsource their web development stuff. They have a small team working on spectrum, that's why it's taking ages.

>>174079871
"Game" isn't a positive comment, its a literal definition. Even if you think its bad, its still a game

gg no re ;)

>>174080014
A barebones tech demo isn't a game. Think before you speak.

>>174080082
30 goto 10
>>174079245

You're too easy.

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>>174079030
I'm totally skeptical over its claim of "realism". What they've shown don't even scratch my lowest expectation for realism

But you need a setting that allow space fighter in the first place, and define your single-crew warship as fighter in the second place
http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/fighter.php#fighters

>>174077610
>>174079737

We don't know yet. FD recently nerfed the latest money making scheme, and the patch is only a few days old. Something will pop up eventually, it always does.

In the meantime, you can either do bounty hunting in conflict zones if you're good at combat, or you could destroy your own soul and do bulk trading.

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>>174080082
still more gameplay than elite
>tfw shitty flight model
>tfw no spess feet and spess handguns

>>174080783
is there any conflict zones near Evarate?

>>174080832
Ye gotta admit ED is a mess.
I launched it up yesterday for the first time in months and got bored after an hour.
I guess it's fine if you're into grindy spacetrade sims but not quite autistic enough for EVE.

>>174080912

Check Galnet. There's a news bulletin that informs you of which systems are in a state of civil war (aka will spawn conflict zones)

You can also find this info at http://inara.cz/

You'll have to check which system is closest to Eravate yourself. Use the galaxy map to search manually, or use https://eddb.io/

who else is finally out of "everything i play is just a placeholder for SC but deep down i can't enjoy a game until 3.0 happens" mode?

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>>174047379
bruh

>>174083709
every MMO i play is just a placeholder for Camelot Unchained

>>174083709
Kind of.

I quit WoW a while ago because its turned to shit, picked up FFXIV but its a garbage weeb game to its very core, mostly without a "main" game at the moment. Both were just meant to tide me over

>>174084718
Are you me? Please tell me you are not me, I quit WoW few months ago and never looked back, it is utter shit now and all the remaining players are retarded.

>>174084565
>look up Camelot Unchained
I guess it would look good if this was 2006.

>>174079450
No they contracted on a lot of outsourced staff for a game they thought would be completed somewhere between 2014 and 2016 those contracts eventually come up for renegotiation. CIG has been hiring pretty heavily over the last several years so no doubt while outsourced staff worked on other things they worked on internal however I imagine the Illfonic situation with FPS not working essentially set CIG back more than a year so they've been trying to catch up while remaining positive to backers. I think Stanton was a good system for CIG back when you couldn't land on planets but then the PG tech showed it could be done sooner and now they're left trying to make planets that were meant to be just landing zones large set pieces that would be the entire focus of a game company for just 1 planet. How do you allow players to fly over planets land anywhere and what do you do if the player walks up to a city outside the landing zone a city that isn't meant to be an area they want to populate or polish?

>>174084880
I highly doubt people dropping Diablo 3 the MMO is uncommon, anon

such a shame, but they're really driving it into the ground.

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>>174085012
I think the style will hold up when it's completely finished.
The important part is the tech to support thousand-man battles in RvR without fps drops or network issues.
I was most impressed with the rendering distance of players, which is seemingly without limits, so you can see little dots moving in the distance, or armies moving in the darkness with lighting held up.

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https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/1/thread/spaceship-prices/84996

>>174051174
>no mention of prefessions other than the fact that the Prospector will be flyable

Cargo hauling will be in 3.0

>>174084231
science fiction where ships don't have shields, or they are uncommon/rare, give me the hardest erections

>>174064493
All the freighters have disproportionately thicc hulls for some reason.

Next question: Why does the Type-9 carry less cargo than the Corvette despite having more overall volume?

>>174086073
They also don't make a whole lot of sense, but hey ho

>>174067194

Capships actually steal kill credit even if you land some hits. This is to prevent people parking beside one and AFK turreting.

Which one of these is more likely to fix the framerate bottleneck in the PU?

>ENTITY UPDATE COMPONENT SCHEDULER
>Will allow lower priority entities (i.e. those further away from players) to be updated less frequently, which should improve the overall framerate and allow us to add more content to the universe.

>NETWORK BIND/UNBIND (STRETCH GOAL)
>Eliminate network updates for entities far away from clients. Should greatly reduce the amount of work the netcode has to do, helping improve server performance. A greater proportion of client bandwidth will be spent on entities close to the client.

>>174086163
>Why does the Type-9 carry less cargo than the Corvette despite having more overall volume?
Because all mass/size numbers have been decided by random.org. You also have shit like limpet controller weighting 128 tons.

The dolphin can equip size 5 thrusters, but they're fucking useless, because even 4A's minimum mass exceeds the dolphin's mass with a trade/explorer build, kek.

>>174077610

Become ice pirates.

>>174078428

Attempt no landings there.

>>174086337
the feasibility of the tech or how much sense it makes doesn't really concern me, i just like the unfiltered fucking that can occur during combat

>>174078428
They were going to do something interesting with them. Years ago.

>>174086073
I remember in freelancer large ships didn't have shields instead they traded cargo space with thiccer hull

>>174079737
>>174080783
Ice pirating is the new meme money maker and even then it pales in comparison to the previous methods.

>>174086493
The latter, but both will probably have big effects.

>>174086493
both

>>174086518
I always liked how the Python's entire design made no sense. It's armed like a heavy combat ship and uses medium pad but has more cargo space, a larger jump range and is more maneuverable and faster than a T7, which is a large pad ship. Especially at release when the python was an unstoppable force of nature.

>cruising around in my anaconda
>suddenly tackled by some NPC out of frame shift
>submit to interdiction because anaconda cant turn for shit
>the NPC is in a fucking viper mk 3 and starts demanding my cargo which is engineer materials
>blast him in 3 shots

NPCs really need to have a sense of probability. they should really only try and pirate you if they have a realistic chance of blowing your shit up

>>174087038
It's not new, it's just had no reason to be popular.

>>174086518
Yeah, I'm pretty sure every ship and object in the game is balanced separately from every other ship and object.

>>174087267
Doesn't fit with the vision sorry bud

>>174087410
"Vertical Progression"

>>174085087
that's easy: you just have local traffic control order you into the proper traffic lanes and if they don't comply they get popped or their nav systems are hijacked. I don't think it's unusual to want to rigidly enforce the movements of multi-ton bombs over your cities.

>>174087267
The funniest part is that with quests, that shitter will respawn the moment you re-enter supercruise and then attack you again.

>>174083709
sort of. I'm not desperate to play a space game anymore. Picked up House of the Dying Sun the other day and it's a good game but I just can't be bothered playing it. I'm going overseas for 4 months so hopefully in that time i'll get excited again. and 3.0 might even be finished by the time I get back

Is Ben /OurGuys/

>>174086073

Capships in ED don't appear to have shields, but the hulls are so redonkerously thick that nothing short of capital weapons can make a dent.

>>174085774
If the $185 include the mandatory alien ship markup, just how tiny is it gonna be?

>>174088104
>but the hulls are so redonkerously thick that nothing short of capital weapons can make a dent.
And yet you can disable the whole thing in a fucking sidewinder.

Do I always want to fit the biggest power plant and power distributor I can on my ships?

>>174087258

I like how FD's excuse for nerfing its shields and maneuverability way back was that it was always supposed to be a cargo ship.

This despite the in-game description being very military-oriented and they were very prevalent in combat zones as heavy-hitters and frequently piloted by pirate lords in assassination missions.

>>174088316
It always should be A because of heat-efficiency, but if you don't need that much power, downsize it.

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>>174088004
Ben Parry? Yes. He's even stated that he browsed 4chan when he was at Frontier to get "that other kind of opinion".

>>174088004
/FiveGuys/

>>174088474
plural wasn't by mistake, was a ben joke

But Parry is great, even if he does fall for bait

>>174088441
Alright, thanks.

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>>174088004
I'm pretty sure this is a skeleton general.

>>174087267
But there are no actual cargo engineer mats anymore.

>>174087643
No, if you actually kill them the game removes them from your active pursuers so you shouldn't see the same NPC again.

Doesn't stop a different one from randomly taking their place though.

>>174088651
2 spooky 4 me

>>174088287
Well, not completely disabled since they FSD out like chickenshits but yeh, dem exposed heat vents.

>>174088669
>But there are no actual cargo engineer mats anymore.
When will they be put back, by the way?

>>174088316

You can downgrade your PP if you aren't drawing enough power to need a bigger one, but bear in mind that lower rank (E-A) has shittier heat efficiency regardless of size.

The distro controls how fast your caps recharge, which directly determines your sustained DPS or how often you can boost in combat so it's absolutely essential you max it out if you're fighting. In other situations it's not so important.

>>174088845
When they implement storage for them.
So never.

>>174088651
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YC2gcSHXaU

The skeleton is CIG
The car is Star Citizen

>>174087038
>Ice pirating
what's this?

>>174089424
Low temperature diamonds.

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okay so I got the game a few days ago and today I finally played it

So about stuff to do in PU I only found
>repair mission which is literally jump to point, EVA in and press and button
>find some evidence that is literally jump to a point EVA in some structure and press a button 2 times
>shoot some pirates if they pop up
>literally all VO is voiced by disgusting brits with thick potato accent

t-thats it?or am I missing something? what the fuck did they do for 5 years

First rule of Ice Pirates:

Do not talk about Ice Pirates.

Second rule of Ice Pirates:

DO NOT. TALK. ABOUT. ICE PIRATES.

>>174089723
Man, even dads have known for months.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/275875-How-to-pirate-low-temperature-diamonds

>>174089668
>Purchasing a product with no prior research

I doubt it

>>174089837
Their alzheimers leads them to forget within weeks, unless you go and remind them.

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>>174089668
Current PU is just a tech demo and a taste of things to come.

>>174090162
>taste of things to come.
it's never coming out

>>174090257
>ELE soon!

>>174090362
what the fuck is ELE

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>>174091180

>>174091049
Extinction-level-event. It's a term that goons use to describe Derek Smart's fantasy of Chris Roberts going to jail and being divorced by Sandi and all the Star Citizen backers losing money as CIG is investigated for fraud and then going down in the history books while Battlecruiser 3000AD sales skyrocket.

>>174091049
The "SC is never coming out because this happened!" event that has been just around the corner for 3 or 4 years now

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>>174091453
>>174091678
This guy has issues.

So, I have a Cobra, part combat part taxi. Which ship should I aim for next? I've been enjoyed taxing people around, but want to be somewhat capable in combat as I have friends who mostly do bounties.

Are you guys hyped to get your hands on the Carrack 1 year and 23 days from now?

>>174092118
Hype is childish

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>>174091973

Slightly outdated, still relevant.

>>174095326
Godspeed, may you find the fun that has eluded us all

>>174085087
Forbidding area is easy, even on the question of railroading players during quest.
The real question is how much players will complain about it despite being given a game they didn't hoped to have in their wildest dream
Exaggerating of course, they dreamed about it but didn't knew how hard it is to make it happen

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>>174095326

>>174047298
>lol fuck people who blindly throw money at the game i want to succeed and suck chris roberts dick on the forums

>plays the game

>>174096719
What

>>174091821
check out his twitter for basically years of him openly projecting his unfiltered insanity into the internet, and also the people who follow him and enable his mental illness like a cult

i mean there are points where it's on par with UFO theorists who will tell you these fantastic tales of how they were abducted and probed, that is how scewed his reality is

>>174097094
But anon, I'm sure CIG really is a money laundering scheme with connections to the Swedish mafia.

>>174089668
the alpha is a courtesy to the backers and nothing else. the game would never have made it past $30 million without a playable pre-pre-pre alpha. it's what's holding the game back to some extent (needing to maintain and improve the alpha so that people stay happy) but it's what has them sitting at $150 million with the largest croudfunded thing ever.

give it another year and it'll be at the point where most companies say "we've worked on this game for 5 years, we can probably afford to release a closed alpha". yet we've watched the game happen since day 1, instead of watching it happen from the point where it's been in development for 5 years and theres a pretty good alpha.

see
>>174046096

>>174097498
>But anon, I'm sure CIG really is a money laundering scheme with connections to the Swedish mafia.

Smort actually thinks so?

>>174097631
the man is the definition of a paranoid tinfoil hat wearer. you know when women can't have a child and they end up a little... off... when theyre older? crazy cat lady? that's derek smart with his videogames, and he's wayyy gone into that crazy cat lady state

>>174059656
Try pressing verify, got me going again

>>174097498
I knew it! I fucking knew it! Wait until I tell everyone at my blog!

>>174059656
stuck at last 00.01% of the download? or you mean ingame load screens freezing?

if you mean download, re-enable your network / replug ethernet without fucking with the DL in any way or closing the window

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>>174097631

>>174089668
>what the fuck did they do for 5 years
Found increasingly ingenious ways to get us to pay hundreds of dollars for jpgs and videos about how they came up with a production schedule that they'll never be able to follow.
Welcome to hell, there's no way out.

testing

>>174090162
>Current PU is just a tech demo and a taste of things to come.
I would believe that if it hadn't been over a year and a half already.

>>174099141
>get us to pay hundreds of dollars for jpgs
>us

Speak for yourself, lmao

> came up with a production schedule that they'll never be able to follow.

They've stuck pretty well to those though, champ

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>>174099441
>they've stuck pretty well to those
I too have been enjoying 3.0 and SQ42 since the end of last year.

>>174099629
Those weren't on production schedules

>>174099259
oh haha yeah! I remember that other AAA game with a $150mil croud funded budget that had a really good closed alpha after 4 years

what was the name of that game again?

>>174099723
>they didn't make a diagram of those things so they don't count
Jesus be a little less obvious shillboy. They literally announced 3.0 for Citizencon (which was like a month after the announcement) eventhough they're still *now* missing nearly every feature slated for that version.
Surely they had to know there was no way in hell they could make it. But then again they had another amazin Concept Sale and didn't want bad PR to keep those shekels from flowing in.

>>174099898
Destiny?

>>174100146
>I referred to a specific thing but I didn't mean a specific thing

anyone use trackIR lately? Can you move around the cockpit now and actually read stuff?

>>174100187
What?

>>174100416
When you say they don't follow production schedules, you're referring to a specific piece of information that they've so far followed very well.

What you're talking about is Chris/Ben/Whoever the fuck making a comment about it and not following it.

There is a difference, I hope you can see that.

>>174100553
>When you say they don't follow production schedules, you're referring to a specific piece of information that they've so far followed very well.
You're literally nitpicking for the sake of being a smartass.
When they publicly announce that "3.0 will be released for CitizenCon in a month" it clearly fucking means they had a production schedule stating that it would happen, eventhough they didn't make those schedules public at the time.
And the "It was only Ben or whoever spouting shit argument" is stupid. How are these people allowed to speak so much on behalf of the entire project if they're clueless and just say random shit?
Nah the fact is so far, CIG has had a horrible track record of announcing shit when they don't even have 10% of it done yet and then they always backpeddal at the last minute, but only after their totally cool new concept sale is finished.

>>174100961
>You're literally nitpicking for the sake of being a smartass.

No, I'm pointing out there is a difference between people saying shit offhand or even during a show or interview, and a production schedule.

Sorry that is lost on you, tardlet

>>174101230
>Only responds to the first sentence of my post
We both know I'm right and you're arguing to save face at that point. It's okay man, there's no shame.

>>174101474
I don't disagree with the rest of your post, and you type like a mongo

"Space exploration is a force of nature unto itself that no other force in society can rival." -Neil deGrasse Tyson

I made a thing.
https://pastebin.com/revgjA80

>>174101514
English isn't my first language, it's 2AM and I'm phoneposting. Give me a break.

>>174101630
>phoneposting
REMOVE

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>>174100396
>trackIR
>a single static monitor

Space games need to die already, they are only making everybody more depressed, desu.

>>174102089
I'm not sure how those two things are related

>>174102089
it's pretty immersive if you have a big monitor and you're sitting close

I have VR too but the resolution is shit and it feels weird controlling your body with a controller

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3.0 was a mistake.

>>174102760
Don't you mean 2.7

3.0 is coming sooner than I expected and I'm looking forward to actual game features coming soon. stay mad toxic video game haters

>>174103917
It's missing features.

It's like waiting for a meal, and the waiter coming out of the kitchen sooner than you expected. But he puts the plate on your table and it has no food on it.

Does that make sense to you? You'll play "3.0" sooner than you thought, but the features in 3.0 will be cut, so you won't actually get those "game features" you want to play.

>>174104927
Hi /v/

>>174104927
like what

>>174105621
Full Stanton system

>>174105894
fair enough but the moons have more fidelity than originally planned so I don't mind the change desu

>>174106004
All three are practically indistinguishabe barren rock wastelands with nothing interesting on them

How can you have less fidelity

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>>174106350
>How can you have less fidelity

elite dangerous moons?

>indistinguishabe barren rock

but that's wrong

>>174107160
>but that's wrong
>screenshot of three slightly differently tinted rock landscapes

:big think:

>>174107279
>can't tell cryovolcanoes, hot volcanoes, and thick fog with lightning storms apart

>>174108173
>rock with deep terrain formations and environmental hazard to low flight

which moon am I talking about

>>174108426
>rock wid stuff xD

wtf I hate Star Citizen now!!!

Does /scg/ have an org?

>>174077049
dude the game is alpha, that you even have something to play (let alone play for the last two years) is amazing, you need to educate yourself on game development, its priorities, and how fucking low you are on that list

so basically avenger will be garbage forever? Which ship should I switch to? I have the stalker

i still dont see how piracy is supposed to be an effective game strategy. piracy only works because one side(pirates) are very armed and the people they attack are very unarmed(merchants)

lets assume half the people fight back(it will be more because whats the point of guns on your ship then) and lets assume you win half those fights, then the cargo you successfully steal the 3 other times(assuming its not destroyed with the ship) will have to be worth the cost of your ship just to break even(not counting fuel/repairs)
and all that is assuming you never get caught and earn criminal ratings

are all of your successful piracy runs supposed to be against dickless NPCs? then why play an MMO?

every cargo ship has guns, looking at the real world it doesnt have a counterpart. if you are transporting valuables through dangerous areas then you hire armed escorts. putting guns on your cargo ship invites the player to stay and get themselves killed with the valuable cargo in the dogfight.