/tosg/ - Tree of Savior General

RIP Pyro Edition!

Let it die

Reminder your stage 10 will be only around 15% better than a stage 5

4th for linkers are so fucking dead they're not even worth picking at all

>>173983731
Kim touched me inappropriately.

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>>173983882
Forgot to add the image that should accompany a post like this

>>173983882
No, stage 5 is 100% and stage 10 is 200%.

With hidden clases how do you change? When you complete all the requirements/quest will it just become an option in your Advancements when you can class change or do I talk to the class master when I am able to class change.

ded linker = ded game

>>173984264
>When you complete all the requirements/quest will it just become an option in your Advancements when you can class change?
Exactly. You can do the prequest even before you're able to change classes.

ded pyro = ded game

>>173983125
I'm bothered this also means no more kaloo hammer and audra type weapons.

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>>173983956
did you get to lvl15 on your class rank yet?

Wiz3 Ele2

Can I skip Elementalist 3
If I take it, is it a good idea to take Alchemist at the end

>>173985225
There is no reason to go Ele and not take Ele3

>>173984464
>alchs can't pretend to be useful just because they have pyro linker

Eh heh heh heh

>>173985225
It's never a good idea to take alchemist on a serious character.

>>173985205
I did. The quest fucked itself somehow, but i found it.

>all wiz shit getting nerfed mega hard
>meanwhile corsair kiel hauling has 1500% x 2 scaling

fucking epic m8 IMC
enjoy your corsair 2 v 2 meta

Is Divine Stigma getting any better with the changes since buffs are also getting adjusted? Did they say anything about recalculated buff effects?

>>173985409
You do realize this is all just on a 'test' server, right? They are testing.
I am willing to bet these changes don't make it into the final version of the patch.

>>173985409
fuck you nigger, just roll a fucking pvp meme if u wanna pvp as a wiz and psykokino that shit nigger

>>173985730
Kinos damage was gutted too
There is nothing in the wizard tree to deal damage anymore save for Hail

>>173985718
u never know

>>173985409
>implying you can even land iron hook in PvP with the attribute disabled

>>173985913
I can just fine actually
Try playing mousemode

>>173985409

Almost everything got nerfed.

Cleric basically has no way of dealing damage now.
Archer damage went from being second best to being kind of eh.
Swordsmen still don't deal any real damage.

Just wait until they start working on buffs and debuffs. Then you'll see some shit.

>>173986112

there's a hitbox bug on attributes-less hook,

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Will we ever see Corsair3>Fencer3 be real and viable?

>>173986314
>will we ever see r10
probably not

>>173985831
Ffs all damage and mob hp went down globally and FC is like 4K modifier total.

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> nerfing almost all swordsman classes
> buffing the fuck out of rank 8 ones because they were shit to begin with

What did IMC mean by this?
Fuck you IMC, Memebarian gets all this free crit buff shit and decide to nerf the fuck out of Highlander, are you fucking serious, there has to be someone on the dev team with a serious Highlander hateboner.

Yes I fucking mad.

>>173985074
Good, they were shit.
Look at Karacha set, Rouge's backstab is balanced according to that.

>>173986621
One of this game's biggest problems is being full of shitty items with no reason to use them. Having less stuff that actually has effects on it is not good.

>>173985831
Here's the wizard pvp real meta boys

https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/skill-planner#213444bbb.14253551.15213445.1f2f3143516575.1e3f4851617185

>>173986985


I would drop ele 3 for sage

otherwise it's just one canon/snipe shot. hail 10 and meteor 5 is fine

>>173986985
>elementalist cast time
>pvp

>>173983703
So did they ever fix performance issues?

>>173987296
Why wouldn't you take stone curse for pvp?

>>173987453
Because I'd want to take a good class instead.

>>173987561
oh I meant >>173986985

>>173986621
>balancing classes around items

>>173988002
range sucks and high cooldown, also not worth much unless you put a few points in

>girl character
>extreme meta super funcional well geared class
>boy character
>meme shit like QS 3, monk, rodelero

why I do this

>>173988112
Your mistake is making boy characters at all.

>>173988112
You know it's not as fun playing as them.

>>173988242
gross, stop being gay anon.

Here's a Google sheet with the skill factor changes. Enjoy guys.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18hkDYLih9nbsmH4Mfmv46jVxnVQYRQUiyBjAl3pbBgA/edit#gid=0

>>173988861
link is broken

So what are you supposed to play if you don't want to get shafted by these changes?

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>>173989106
Another game

Seriously guys they are nerfing the damage, yes, but they are also bringing down mobs with us.

Shut the fuck up. You don't see me crying that my Deed's is insanely nerfed every thread do you? Goddamn. I went from 150% physical increase to a mere 33% more damage. That's an INSANE nerf, but I'll live.

>>173989106
Unironically Chaplain, they don't seem to want to touch elemental attack.

>>173989106
SADHU!

Pyromancer:
Fire Ball:
- This skill now hits 1 time, regardless of skill level.
- The size of the fireball is increased by 30%.
>- (Add) Other players will not be able to hit the fireball.
- (Add) The hitbox has been increased by 25%.

PYROS ARE SAVED!

https://pastebin.com/XnzBaQTx

>>173989362
>1 time
>1 fucking time
AHAHAHA
AHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHa

In what world does this seem okay?

>>173989362
>>173989657
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zns0YhiAVQY
More like fireshit lmao

>>173989960

Flare is better than Fireball now.

Like unironically it's better.

>>173989254
People are just memeing, it's impossible to know how most of this number affect builds and whatnot.

I'm just glad that Transcendence is getting toned down a fuckload, it isn't being removed which is a shame but beggars cannot be choosers. I'm fucking glad for any change that comes with it, most cancerous thing I've seen in any game.

>>173989362
>hits only one time
This begs the question, why even make it a deploy with hitbox? It will be harder than Exorcism to work around. And fireball is clunkiest shit I've seen skidding to incorrect positions or just taking the damage and standing still.

I'd rather they made it a different targetting. Maybe the idea is to make it good for Sages still?

>>173989960
That's... underwhelming if considered old Fireball 16 hits and agny. Somewhat feels like a heavy handed nerf, it definitely needed some toning but right now I can only think of this as a knee jerk reaction to it being too strong before. Maybe it can be better with sage going a fuckload of fireballs and luring something for huge burst but even them.

I wonder if you can still PP it?

>>173989657
good, at least some of you autists will roll real classes from now on and not the cheesy ez shit to carry your noob ass through solmiki

>yfw a madman launches a tos private server of the rank 7 after this "renewal" sinks iTOS forever

>>173989657
>>173989960
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8OQN2ak8tQ

It's the same fireball from the beta.

>>173990182
>That's... underwhelming if considered old Fireball 16 hits and agny
That's underwhelming even considering fireball level 5 without agny,

>>173990209
this

how the fuck do they expect me to play this game when i cant faceroll it with my pyro with lv8 transc weapon? ridiculous, i'm fucking out

>fireball
>is not a missile spell that bursts when the mob is hit and then DOT for 10 hits

This fucking class reset event have to be fast to do because so far i have 7 characters to full reset and the ride isn't ending

>>173990528
Same but I have no fucking idea what to reset to.
Everything seems shit.

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>want to make a fresh new character
>can't decide
>after all dailies just stare at the creation screen
>thinking of what to make
>don't want to make an archer because don't like the nature of it
>clerics are insanely boring to level early regardless of what spec
>swords are too much effort for little gains and boring early
>sit there for 15 minutes
>go to neet, make a build
>go back on it as I don't know if I want this
>make another spec
>no, this might not be fun without insane gear
>ok I'll make my very first diev
>oh wait need an insane wand to make this viable
>....
>hit exit
>go play another game

>>173990475

>lv 8 trans weapon
>free reset

you just switch to whatever new meme they give to wizards, retard

>>173989327
True, can't get any worse.

>>173990564
I'll just reset for what seems fun, you can wait a month or two when the new meta is found.

>>173990574
>swords
>boring early
Someone hasn't played a pelt into barbarian

>>173990510
>fireball
>not a pea-sized bead that streaks from your extended pointing finger to the targeted area to blossom into a fireball that deals 10d6 damage to all creatures and objects in the area of effect

>>173986163
Don't forget
>elememes are the the only viable source of damage again

>>173990754
>with their 5 second frost cloud
At least their other skills are relevant now. They still need to work those cooldowns, though, they're terrible.

What's the superior reset voucher do? Resets all char dungeon runs or just resets saalus too?

>>173990656
No, i am going to copy pazte whatever gooks shit out because i can't miss this event and wo 't reroll my whole team
Seriously, IF YOU MISS THIS EVENT YOU HAVE GOOD CHANCE ALL YOUR 15/15 CHARACTERS WOULD BE TRASH
Yes i am fucking mad because IMC is fucking too much around.

>>173989960
That should be a ne skill. Why will they take the game back to beta but they won't add more skills?

>>173990475
good, fuck off pyrocuk

>>173990981

resets your life to that day you installed tos

chance to get a gf

>>173990952
And it's the best the wizard tree has to offer as well

ever since quick cast attribute got removed there is no point in going wiz3, linker gets nerfed, pyro gets nerfed is the elememe build now going to be wiz > cryo > cryo > ele x3 > cryo > sage

Should I make a Miko / Diev now or make a Druid? I feel like I should make a Miko-Something, just in time for the rebalance so if I gotta redo her I don't have to redo the fucking quest.

>>173991130
Unironically yes

>>173991130
Maybe one circle of rune caster somewhere

>>173991193
Do a Miko, people on forums are saying hedgestone stats were reduced anyway.

>>173991130
>>173991242
Cast times.

>>173990952
they actually buffed frost cloud look at the numbers they reduced the duration but increased the scaling by a lot

>>173991130

you go QC to fast shit faster!

assuming the new dex affect some skills...they might change QC to speed up actual skill casting (those long wizard casting animations...)

Would be do nice

>>173991326
>halve the duration
>increase the scaling by 30%
That's a nerf

>>173990656
>>173990528
event when?

>>173991193
Druid gets killed to
HS will be only +10% buff, now is 100% and Druid is still shit.
Roll DievMikoPD for now and if you want to dps after the changes reset into Chaplain inquisitor or Monk3Inquisitor

>>173989038
>>173988861
My bad. It should be fixed now.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18hkDYLih9nbsmH4Mfmv46jVxnVQYRQUiyBjAI3pbBgA/edit#gid=0

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>>173991130
>ever since quick cast attribute got removed
Am I missing something here?

>>173991292
cast times.

>>173991473
I knew they were nerfing hs eventually.

>>173991714
It didn't needed a nerv at all

>>173991123
Bitch, i lost all chances to get a gf long before tos was released.

>>173991772

It did because in its current state it constricts all future cleric classes into having to account for a 100/100% atk/matk buff.

>>173991772
Druid is supposed to be shit.

>>173991772
It did, they were making skills at all ranks equal so it woulda enabled some pretty bs stuff and limited what they could do pretty heavily.

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GET REKT YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS

H...HHHHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH

>>173991435
you are right its a bit worse now
NEW = 4896% over 5.4s 18 ticks,
OLD = 5042.4% over 10s 33 ticks

>>173990510
>>173990739

This. I should go back to Mabinogi and use some real fucking spells.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNQnrY9cnzE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sH1Vx1JrtXU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSib5UtDNOU

>>173991661
i dont know why neet still has it but its no longer acquirable with the trainer

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>>173992046

But I waited so long for Agni...

>>173992135
Shit magic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap_8VtpboVE

>>173991661
ktest neet isn't 100% up to date, it still has it because it's still in game but not attached to any class.

>>173992046
But Thauma is still good right? ;_;

>>173991435
30% more burst is more worth than the duration

>>173992086
This is insanely good

>>173992086
That's a lot more damage per second.

New druid still seems fine. Remember, monster health is relative to the damage. So truffles are now 20k and old truffles were what, 80k? old druid wouldn't have done too much to them anyway but this druid with shit gear is still wrecking them without much issue:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUf2M4i5jcw

Stop crying about fucking pyros already you shitters. Do you really think a 2nd circle class should out DPS every other class in the entire game?

Imagine if Pelt1 was the same, that it could just faceroll with an agny necklace forever. Would you think that'd be OK?

Fuck off.

>>173992683
>r8 druid killing truffles
you fucking kidding me m8?

>>173992683
>old druid wouldn't have done too much to them anyway
Only druid would have 2shotted them with not-double punch

>>173992086
Why would they give a rank 6 class 4896% damage to 15 targets every 30 seconds?

>>173989254
I do see people crying about deeds getting nerfed all the time. But you're anonymous, so I can't tell who's responsible.

>>173992887
He has shit gear famboy.

>>173992995
That's too weak!

>>173993037
Quote them. Oh wait, you can't.

>>173992995
ELEMEME IS A TIME CLASSIC SO SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH YOU PYRO META CHASING PEACE OF SHITE

>>173992995
Because it was stupid popular I guess, apparently back in the day Korean elememe was more common than anything.

>>173993335
featherfoot and viable shouldn't be in the same sentence without a not.

>>173993424
Soon enough people will be feeling nostalgia about the pre-balance patch times. Doppeltards will be crying for a nostalgia server.

>>173993516

The best part about these changes is how the metashitters are going to cry like little bitches.

>>173993663
Nah, it's pretty fair they're giving full resets. Just the guy with 10 alts when the event is once a day reset for a week is gonna be pissy or something.

>>173990574
>oh wait need an insane wand to make this viable
how

>>173992683
Fuck off, dumbass. This is no longer about pyro outdpsing anyone. They completely ruined one of the most unique and fun skills in the game. I don't even play a pyro, but it's fun to kick their balls. It added variety and interaction, and you don't see spells like that in other games. Now fireball is irrelevant and most of the time it'll just be a melee range hit that disappears instantly. By the way, asshole, pelt is the best puller in the game regardless of rank, so if pyros were balanced like pelts, they would be #1 in the game.

>>173993516
Pre-Renewal Servers WHEN?!

I think they're nerfing Linker's party damage boost. Linker Thaumas won't suffer too much for these changes.

>>173993761

Free resets doesn't remove the hours/money they spent in grinding for gear which cannot be traded in for whatever their new class is.

>>173992437
Not for solo, nothing in wiz tree can offer the damage to solo kill swelled mobs
You want to farm fast? Roll a cleric

>>173993785
>pelt is best puller
>puller
level up you noob

>>173993842
But how to deal the damage
Magic missiles are gutted too
Pyro skills are gutted


How to kill swollen mobs now?

how is psychokino in latest patch? still PVP only?

>>173993245

>elememe
>rank 7 metatier trash
>classic

lol

>>173993954
>How to kill swollen mobs now?
With a party.

>>173993954
You can't.period.
Atleast not in solo

>>173993761
I thought it was 1 reset per day per char though

World Tree nerf next!

>>173993938
Play the game, you thread-only turd.

>>173993854
They are giving back shards from transcendence and you can even convert money spent in attributes to other classes' attributes.

>>173985325
It probably overflowed from your quest list. Since you probably had 5 quests active tracked already on the right side of your screen. So you had to manually find it on your big quest journal.

>>173994118
I am seriously quitting if they touch Diev too

>>173993954
New farmer will be DPE + Dethrone

>>173994161

You're not trading in that orange 315 weapon though.
Or those solmiki gears.
Or that Sissel.

>>173993954
Whith Flare, which is much better now. I believe the way Pyros are played will change a lot. You'll use Fire Pillar and other skills to stack burn and then Flare to deal most of your damage.

>>173994250
You can use those to whatever you reset into.

>>173994221
You serious that class is broken as hell lol

>>173994315

Unless your new class requires different equipment.

>>173993516
>>173993835
Well it's been like what, 2 years total including betas? It's about normal time for an MMORPG to be irreversibly ruined.

>>173994254
>which is much better now
It's not better, it's bugged.
You really think doing 555555 damage is a feature?

just play something you like nerd.

>>173994221
Are you fucking kidding me? A single totem that disables ALL enemy AI would remain untouched? Ausrine not enough? Protection Zone not enough? Fade not enough? 2x Pract Orange shield not good enough?

Fuck off casual.

>>173994376
I just want atleast one alt to not reset
I have 9 resets to do already

>>173994436

Flare is basically better than fireball now. A lot more damage with 3 uses. It's just on a longer cooldown.

>>173994519
>Protection Zone not enough? Fade not enough? 2x Pract Orange shield not good enough?
Wait what?
Since when being a diev will give me those?
I didn't receive any orange prat weapon, maybe I missed something?

>>173994436
It's bugged, but it's better. 730% at lvl 15 with overheat 3 is no joke. You could just apply burn on enemies, link them and use Flare.

>>173994436

are you retard
he talking about the huge flare %, after the fix
fireball attribute, burn stuff
flare flare flare

>>173994604
No you don't.

>>173993954
With decay

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So there have always been these odd enemies in some places that are way bigger than normal. They don't seem like they swelled themselves or anything, and no one's around to swell them. Since giant mobs happen on fields now, do these ones get extra huge or does it never happen to them?

Or are they just glitched or something?

>>173991032
You can just reset them and leave them blank you know, till you can decide.

>>173995210
>They don't seem like they swelled themselves or anything
If you swell a mob then go away before seeing them come back to normal they'll stay swelled forever.

>>173994250
There's solmiki gear and shit.

>>173994710
Cleric C2 has all of those and every Diev goes for Cleric C2. Fuck off faggot.

I don't think we will even get the option to reset. Everyone will be reseted. at least stats and skill will be sure to be resetted

>>173995658
Cleric2 has x2 Orange Pract Weapons?

>>173995370
>If you swell a mob then go away before seeing them come back to normal they'll stay swelled forever.
On your screen only or do you mean if the original caster leaves the area it'll be that way for everyone?

>>173995798
Weapons? I didn't say weapons. I said shield. Every cleric gets to wear a shield, for free, since they cannot wear any 2h weapons. Your entire balance revolves around free stats, free immunities and free to spec however and still be viable.

>>173995994
>Every cleric gets to wear a shield, for free
Well, I didn't get any x2 Pract Orange Shield either.

>>173995848
Yes this is not clientside but serverside

>>173995658
So you're admitting he's right and those aren't diev related.

>>173995994
Are you on drugs?

>>173995848
>you mean if the original caster leaves the area it'll be that way for everyone?
That.
A quite funny bug.

>>173994254
Flare at least seems like it's a lot more fun than shitty balls.

>>173995715
That would make a lot of sense. That means they probably didn't think of it, so someone should tell IMC to do it.

let's say I'm making a dragoon

will a catacombs pike 3 slot cut until I get a good spear?

>>173995994
>since they cannot wear any 2h weapons
Of course the shitposter is a doppelcuck.

>>173996603
yes

>>173996686
>doppel scapegoat
I love this meme

>>173996603
Get this instead https://tos.neet.tv/items/252127

>>173996935
It's the best.

>>173996935
No other class needs a 2h weapon.

>>173996978
>losing an argument
>d-doppel hurr

>>173996975
>https://tos.neet.tv/items/252127

looks good, but no crit rate bonus!

Barbs, DUUHHHHH

>>173997064
Lancer does

>>173997064
>>173997382

Mergen demands two handed bow too

and musketeers

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>>173997465
>>173997382
b-but my doppel scapegoat s-shitposting guys!

>>173997382
lol

>>173997465
They have auto switch.

>>173997709
Weapon swap is irrelevant when you need 3500 shards to transcend a single weapon.

>>173997875
???
You obviously never played an archer.

>xbow + shield
>cast musket skill
>game automatically switches to musket, cast the skills then switches back
Mergen, cannon or hell even rougue all have auto switch.

>artillonium is now 400k

fuck those new account event fags, they reached the 290 now reeeeee

>>173998085
nigga read what I posted again

>>173999157
Nigger you don't need to transcend anything but your 2h weapon.

>>173998852
They've already surpassed me now. Fuck IMC.

Do Siluai mobs not drop monster badges? I got them fine in other missions.

Kabbalist is so underwhelming.

>>174000865
It's high rank full support in a game where you don't need one. Maybe this rework will make it more useful but I doubt it, the game primarily seems to be about solo farming materials.

>>174001136
Kabbalist barely offers any support though.
Compare it to Priest or Diev or Oracle.

>>174001190
Doesn't it give damage null chance with attributes on the wheel things? Plus it's the only class that can directly restore SP.

>>174001320
>Doesn't it give damage null chance with attributes on the wheel things?
Not as good as Revive, Aursine or Counter Spell.

>Plus it's the only class that can directly restore SP.
To only 1 teammate and on a 60s cd.

>>174000865
Revenged sevenfold is absurd and needs a nerf. What are you doing, trying to use it in pve?

>>174001750
Yes actually, I don't care for the PVP minigame. Kabbalist seems like a very niche class only suitable for that kind of shit.

>>174001930
Ironically they have skills that literally only work in PvE.

how much should I offer for a catacombs pike

>locked out of "endgame" because I still can't decide what to play/invest
>check new ktest patch
eh

>>174003301
Isn't that BiS from 170-330 before you can get Practonium weapons.

>>174003592
No point on trying to make sense of ktest right now.

>>174003592
Jsut play wahtever and reach 330. You can reset easily when the big patch comes.

When will the update be live?

>>174003882
December, maybe January.

>>174004030
Fuck off

>>174003882
They said early summer, but it will probably be Joly or even August

How many squares does 15 Heal gives you?

>>174004526
15

>>174003606

it's very strong. but will be expensive to open 3 slots on this thing

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> Doppel is shit now
> only Whirlmeme got toned down as well as Punish (???)
> everything else is nearly doubled in scaling

Not so fast wizzmemes!

>>174005784
How are your Deeds going anon?

>>173991520
After reading through all the skill factor changes, I'm in even more disbelief about how IMC managed to produce this. They really are just rolling random numbers.

>>173998085
Yuridimension Virtua Noire X II

>>174006807
They're definitely doing some random test with the numbers. Nothing is final yet. It will probably change during the whole week.

If another of those spreadsheets is created, I shall post it as fast as I can.

By the way, we should work out on a stat simulator spreadsheet or something like that.

they should have kept fireball (and added a anti-kick attribute) and then changed flare to a more cool skill

let the fingersnap explosion be cryo's thing

>>174007605
Don't you dare

>>174007301
It might be fun to compare how the skills get "rebalanced" over time and make graphs. A stat simulator that has the exact combat formulas worked out and can feed into damage vs defense graphs would be great.

>>174007423
Yeah, simply adding an attribute and fine tuning the scaling factors would've been perfect. Flare should set the monsters on fire visibly and have a short confusion effect so they run around randomly while burning.

>>174008076
I can work on the graphs for the "rebalance" over time.

As for the stat simulator, it can be little more complicated, because we know how is the damage formula (which by the way the minimum of damage you can receive/do is around 30), but we don't know what the bollocks the 0.x factor means. My first thought was that it was the randomization factor in the damage, but my further calculations proved me wrong.

>>174007605
Don't be an idiot, anon

>>174008415
People have been mentioning the kicking attribute a long time ago. But no, let's just shit on the Pyromancers while we test some stuff.

>>173987439
yep, now my fps is over 200

>rush nerfed from 150% to 82%

top lmao

>>174010285
You all keep looking at the raw numbers when defense effectiveness and mob hp was nerfed as well, it probably does more damage comparatively.

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Why aren't you playing Wugushi, anon?

>>174010668
Because Sadhuman is more fun!

>>174010668
I would if you post butt

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>>174011019
Wugubutts?

>>174010446
Meawhile you get spells doing 4000%+.

>>174010668

Because Sapper.

>>174011315

Sapper butt > Wugu butt

>>174011315
bueno

>>174010668
Butt i am.

>>174010860
I really, really wish that was the case.

>>174013541
I didn't say it is better DPS, I said it's more fun... and it is!

silver hawk or lionhead shield, you decide. the motherfuckin mats are ready

did they fix fps yet
can poor people come back yet

>>174015671

Maybe when the new update comes. Which isn't going to be for months.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0ObFkj3TQMj

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>>174015498
silver hawk

>>174015498

lionhead

just +15 an isbality and put lv7 gems in it

Is it possible to bind extra mouse buttons?

>>174017181
i dont think so

or maybe need 3nd party software for it. and i cba to do that

>>174015671
I have playable fps with an integrated video card, what kind of microwave oven are you trying to play on?

Guys, I'm working on a spreadsheet to see how the skill factors have changed over the time on the test server. I will post the link here. Keep in mind that it is a work in progress, and I will update it as I can.

You can comment on it if you by the way.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1w96wEplRalplgC4f0TTyiYqXNZfIVZopUbTNFUX_be8/edit?usp=sharing

>>174015671
How long ago did you quit? It's improved a hell of a lot since launch, a moderate amount since six months ago or so.

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https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/skill-planner#41333222c.15213544.1f2f5a65.1f213f435175a5.11243545

Here it is

THE Good Build

>>174017537
Many numbers will change again.. to early for that.

>>174017537
Nice work.

>>174017537
Holy shit, cata got hit hard.

is corsair a good farming class? if yes can someone give me a build please?

>>174018576
They gutted pretty much everyone with last patch. A fucking huge rework.

>>174019535
Maybe after balance patch.

qs > ranger

so with pyrolinker dead, what would be good filler shit to add before alc3?

inb4 any recommendation gets nerfed too

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>>174017537
How does the Redel and Zucken attributes work again?
Is it 5x1.8 = 9 hits or is it 5x2.8 = 14 because if its the latter thats 5,152% ATK damage with the attribute before ant other bonuses.

My math is completely off right?

>>174021618
The patch doesn't even hit iTOS until summer. Recommendations right now are full retard.

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>>174021618
nobody knows and nothing is 'set in stone'. more changes/rebalance/reworks coming

wait warmly deer savior

tell me, is sorcerer 2 fun?

>>174021685
They double the amount of hits and increase overall damage by a percentage. In the new system, it should be (Skill Factor + 180%)*10 hits in the case of Redel. In the case of Zucken it should be (Skill Factor + 100%)*8 hits.

By the way, I'm still working on the spreadsheet. I hope I can finish the swordman tree by tonight.

>>174023127
fun is a buzzword

>>174021618
Wait until the test period is over. The number are all over the place. Nerfs and middly buffs are coming left and right, my friend.

>>174017537

Consider adding something like damage at max level.

>>174023534
Noted on my to do list.

I need <another leveling event for oldfags> to create <my new meme build>

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BIG FAT

>>174024923
Just buy exp tomes

Why is Monk going to be OP actually?

>>174025434

Probably wont be anymore. But when these changes first dropped they had like a 0CD ability with low cost that had 900% damage. It lost more than half of that though.

Done with the Swordman Tree on the Mr Kim's Wild Rebalance Ride Spreadsheet. I will work on the Wizard Tree tomorrow. Wish me luck, anons.

>>174026224
Keep up the good work.

>>174026224
Good luck with the menial tasks friend

>>174024963
I was hoping for a Kabbalist.

>>174026292
Feel free to comment on the spreadsheet of any changes you would like to see on it. I would see what I can do about it.

>>174026325
KIIIIIIIIIIIIIM!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>174021618
>>174023372
The patch is several months away and even then, you will be able to reset, so there is no need to wait if you want to play now. In general, as long as you don't invest too heavily in attributes and grinding the wrong orange weapon, it doesn't really matter at all.

>>174027423
Even attributes get refunded. The most you can lose on attributes is 999 silver.

>Grab some potions off of market
>20s wait until they're available
>Accidentally clicked retrieve all early
>Got them before the time was up
???

>>174027502
Yes, but they might get stuck in a class tree you end up not wanting to play. That guy was asking for alch fillers, so it shouldn't be a problem.

>>174027581
Reported for exploiting.

>>174024963
This is what pyros will be listening to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W-fIn2QZgg

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why are people buying https://tos.neet.tv/items/645237 i put in market?
isnt that trash?

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>>173993516
Remember when the market place would hold your money hostage for days and you'd see it build up more and more? Nowadays you just take it out as you get it and it doesn't have that "payday" feeling anymore.

>>174028825
you're trash

>>174028825
Maybe they're too lazy to farm them for the swordsmen-only gear, even though they're incredibly common.

Have they even touched homunculus? I haven't seen people even use them after the initial fad. Have their skills changed at all too(since they're not players the skills they use might be different from the players version)

>>174029447
Pretty sure they use player skills.

Chrono was not changed (yet)

>>174010668
Because it will be one of the worst build after the renewal

>>174031468
You're right! One week into test builds is a smart and reasonable thing to base such assertions off of.

>>174021618
If you only want an Alchemist then roll it now and roll a PyrolinkerAlchemist
Once you are lv 317 your alchemist is done forever

I see Skull Swing at 991% and Vertical Slash at 826% is this real life

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>>174010668
but I do!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR71gtqrLaU

Alchemist new dps meta

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>still have the Superior Vouchers for reset Saalus and event dungeon too
>daily chores takes so much i can't have the time to use these

>>174032592
>new

>>174032592
>DPS
good joke

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If you find an Animus recipe is it worth to save it for later in case it gets over 10m again or just craft and sell it for fast 7m?

>>174033730
>later
as in when [ Tree of Savior - a Tree Reborn ] comes to Steam?
That will take months. Sell now or soon.

>>174033730
Vampires suck

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>>173990574

>>174034715
Wait I've been gone for a while. Are you serious? Isn't this game dead?

>>174036625
My friend, this game is the Queen Elizabeth of MMOs. Everyone once in a while someone will go "wait, it's still alive...?"

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>>174036625
>Wait I've been gone for a while.
It is kinda dead.

But they change a fuck lot. Almost all skills and most stats/numbers, right now in Korean Test Server.

See
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=934
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=931
https://pastebin.com/u/sunhwapark
https://pastebin.com/JSruk4BT
https://pastebin.com/XnzBaQTx
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18hkDYLih9nbsmH4Mfmv46jVxnVQYRQUiyBjAI3pbBgA/edit
and >>174017537

>>174036790
Well is it going to be better to solo content above 200+ or are the monsters still absurdly powerful?

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>>174036886
pretty much all monsters have already been nerf'd a lot. up 330.
you can solo (almost) all non-ET non-HighWB things

but it was not hard <300 before

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>>174037020
Well it primarily sucked off your build wasnt meta.

Thanks for the info, I'll check it out over the weekend!

>>173943280

late reply, but yes they exist. i used an imperni sword for the first few months the game came out, and since i was a squire the 100% weapon repair cost didnt bother me.

heres a secret though. theres a "secret" weapon set that can be acquired from the "extension map" in which takes alot of time and nobody has bothered to get. but they can be obtained from nowhere else. also the mats AND the recipes are obtained from the same place.

items such as "golden ingot" are this example

>>174038136
Does that secret weapon set refer to Imperni or to just another completely different set?

How do you even know these things?

>>174039169
The gimmick he's referring to isn't much of a secret, check the Gimmick thread on the forum. Those weapons are mostly useless anyways, and can come from Cardboard Cubes now too.

Is there any concrete data on the effect of spr on summon damage

>>174040404
>Is there any concrete data on the effect of spr on summon damage
On ktest? Just what testers say.

also, nice repeating digits

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>lunatics are still playing this game

>>174040725
>4040404
Tfw not found

I guess ill just test it myself when the fated week arrives. I want a comfy summon necro diablo2 nostalgia meme build.

>>174040786
They are doing DUNGEONS right as we speak

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>>174040786
I want to stop, but I can't. hehe

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tdds

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>>174031869
Tfw memelander

>>174040404
It's some kind of multiplier I think inside the lua files:

base + base * (Char SPR / (Char Level + 1));

base is a % and is "100" by default.

>>174040996
Not a very ToS-feeling artstyle, but great nonetheless. Neat.

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CuteNotLewd

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>>174041371

>>174041487
Why does she still have heart lovely eyes after being hit violently in her stomach?

>>174041529
Obviously because she likes it.

>>174041529
It only makes her feminine penis harder

>>174007605
Yamerooo!

>>174041259
A % of what is the million dollar question

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https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/skill-planner#21222bbb..2f5a657f.1f3f4a85
what as last class?

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>>174011671
>Sapper butt

I still use the sapper costume on my cannoneer.

>>174042286
>picking the trashcan that is pyro
Reroll reroll rerooooll

>>174042347
but that works pretty good

>>174042101
It's called SkillFactorRate so it's probably just a multiplier of base PATK/MATK.

how much HP regen battle birb gives? It works on our character window (animus friendly)?

>>174042674
But wouldnt INT effect it then

>>174042286
some good suggestions?

no memes pls

>>174043057
Depends on the summon maybe (works for owls, but they aren't really summons).

>>174044725
(male)

>>174044725
it would definitely look better without boobs

>>174045747
no u

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CoffeeHouse is recruiting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dpbl6zaXX94
>completely shit gear
Doppel is fine.

>tfw FF2 will be the only class in wizard tree who can kill swelled mobs solo

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>>174047491

>>174047561
>10k damage tics on cyclone with that gear
That's really a lot now.

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>>174047595
>cyclone
>>174047491
>Doppel
>>174047491
>gear
>>174047491
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dpbl6zaXX94

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>>174047491
>>174047561
>>174047640
M-my bad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJw-ZOdVlhM

>>174046721
How in the flying fuck that guild didn't disbanded after a full year of no /tosg/ on a dead server?

>>174047902
>a full year of no /tosg/
>on a dead server
Those are wrong you retard.
We had a couple of no /tosg/ but they all left.

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>>174047725
>>174047491
not bad. not great.

these items are not that shitty.
should + the armors, he almost gets fucked often

>>174047945
So basically you are in 3 left there

>>174048017
3 new people literally joined yesterday.