/agdg/ -- Amateur Game Development General

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>>173174968

Fourth for if we had and agdg board there wouldn't be silly engine wars every 5 minutes

>>173174948
>this isn't even TEXTURED
the fact of the matter that Unity is probably the ugliest commercial engine out there but come on dude thats clearly textured, those bricks arent 3d its just ver well bumpmapped

you can see it on the pillars, theyre completely flat-edged in profile against the sky but are self-shadowing and shit

the unity engine is objectively shit

Which engine will you use for your NEXT game?

>>173175291
my studio's in-house engine

>>173175275
But its one of the best for mobile!

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finally redid my strafe aiming system. i also made a prone aiming system, no actual prone button yet.

>>173175291
the same I'm using for my CURRENT game

>>173175489
NO
YOU DON'T HAVE ULTRA REALISTIC GRAPHICS BECAUSE YOU'RE USING UNITY
REEEEEEEEEE

>source """""engine""""" op
holy shit delete this

>>173175291
I wonder if there will be a next

>>173174603
That image seriously triggers me holy fuck.

>needing a txt file for every material

KILLLL ITTTTT

>>173175636
man, /agdg/ has some serious autists.

I mean they get proven wrong about something a whole thread ago and now have to run around screaming about it still like little faggots.

why do you suck Unity's dick so hard? my only guess is that you're a developer and/or paid shill, otherwise you wouldn't take everything so personally.

>>173175636
It wouldn't hurt him to put some tonemapping on.

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>>173175186
This is better than baka text scripting!

>>173175769

yea so much worse than literal pedophile OP's.

Unity GameMaker UE4 Godot They are all good engines now stop complaining and make a game holy shit

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>>173175769
Sad OP is sad

>>173175901
Holy shit that's amazing. I thought I had laid claim to most clusterfucked blueprint layout with Mayhem League but that takes the cake.

Why the hell would you design your BP that way?

>>173175993
How else would you design it

>>173175993
Those 2 lone nodes bottom left have literally no reason to be there, I assume it was just made for the memes.

>>173176062
This is liking asking how you code a game without using a monolithic main loop

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>>173174968
My personal favorite.
It's so elegant, you know something is very, very poorly written, but you will never see it. This is art.

What's the engine with easiest online multiplayer setup?

>>173176201
UE4

>>173176201
Probably Source or UE4.

>>173175848

he's just messing around.

>>173175890

i don't know anything about that general kind of thing yet. i've been putting all my effort into the movement system so far. i'll deal with visuals when i have a fun game.

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>>173176062
This is Dixie's main character BP.

I consider it fairly disorganized; I could do a LOT to clean it up if I felt it was worth the time (for example, if someone else was working on it with me).

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I've finally tamed the shader I had problem with

>>173176201
UE4

>>173175901
>when your "code" looks like a monstrosity from beyond the stars

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>>173174968
Not mine, but I've done this before. Remapping values for a neighbor aware tile grid. I used a dictionary to store the values, but I still don't know a better way of doing this sort of thing.

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>tfw just wasted a few hours on this
>I'm probably not even gonna use it in a game

>>173176285
>visual scripting brainlets
Cmon senpai, you have been working on mayhem league since forever and you should have picked up some proper c++ by now.

>>173175291
probably the "engine" I built in love2d, possibly something more powerful and popular

>>173175291
I'll probably continue to be a filthy shameless engine dev if I don't die

>>173176201
unironically Source, it has an option for it when you first get Source SDK to spit out all the source code for you

>>173176473

not sure about that spoiler looking back wing. rest of it looks fine.

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>>173176197
well the "else { if (false) {} }" doesn't do anything so that's already badly written
pic related though

>>173176504
Why? Still don't need it.

Especially now that blueprint>c++ nativization is out of beta and working properly.

>>173176394
>Remapping values for a neighbor aware tile grid.
There's ways to reduce the complexity. First of all you can split tiles into quadrants, then you have 4 * 2^3 = 32 possibilities instead of 2^8 = 256 possibilities. When you cut it down like that, it's much easier to program the mapping from bitmasks to tiles. Also, the mapping is similar for each quadrant so you really only need to write logic for 8 masks. Not bad.

>>173176394
This is fine if you want the tileset image to have a proper non-random arrangement.

>>173176504
To be fair ue4 is such that blueprints are significantly more powerful, functional and stable than the C++ api.

>>173176689
It's supposed to come off and become the board, I was just in a rush

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>>173176359
plus an in-game screen

>>173175901
>when your "code" looks like it should be fucking a Japanese loli

>>173176504
Just from that image you'd have no way to know how much C++ was involved.

I mean I know none, but still. Literally no one makes a UE4 game with no blueprints.

>>173175291
current game: my own
next game: Unity

2D is one thing, but I ain't making an entire 3D game on OpenGL. I need time to actually make the game.

>>173176708
If by 'working properly' you mean it crashes the engine, that is.
The point is to reduce "code" complexity and improve maintainability though. Just a simple example: you couldn't copy-paste a blueprint from UE4 into a unity project.

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>>173174968
not terrible, but my favorite that I've seen here

>>173175489
nice wiz_mud expansion

>>173176394
>>173176717
Also, you can see even in that image that there's a pattern to be exploited to cut down the code a shit ton.

>>173175901
>this is how Italians cook their code

>>173176879
Why would anyone go from UE4 to Unity though

>>173175901
>when your "code" is on your shirt already with your mom's spaghetti

>>173176879
You can't copy-paste C++ from UE4 and have it work in Unity either, what the fuck are you trying to say?

>>173176504
I enjoy working with visual scripting because it doesn't let me hide from how much of a clusterfuck my code becomes. When it becomes a complete spaghetti mess, I'm forced to reorganize and optimize everything so it's not painful to look at and usually end up making things faster and more flexible because of it.

>>173176956
Italian here, use superior Unity

>>173177064
>italian
>white

>>173175901
>when the news goes crazy over a new giant species of squid and it turns out it was your code

>>173177056
You can, not only because the basic structure is the same and properly written code is composed of separable parts, but also because the main buildingblocks are the same so you just have to rewrite the engine-specific parts, and chances are there's a direct equivalent in the target engine.

>>173176809
>>173176359
hopefully that's optional right?

i hate crt shaders

>>173177169
That is correct

>>173176504
Actually, people who prefer C++ when Blueprint would work are the brainlets. Like >>173177060 points out, Blueprint is basically functional programming and so there's a lot of friction against writing spaghetti (it actually literally looks like spaghetti). Blueprint also has things like delay nodes that would be really hard to express in C++.

>>173177191
You use C# in Unity.

How many party member you prefer to have during combat in a RPG?
I prefer 5, but it seems like 3 is the standard. Why?

>>173177227
sure thing, by default you get the crisp 1bit look

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What color scheme should I give the hilt, boyos?

>>173177316
Zero, fuck teams.

>>173177303
Come back when you know how to program hello world.

>>173177493
module Main where

main = putStrLn "Hello, world!"

>>173176359
>>173176809

looks dope

>>173177369
NICE BUSTER SWORD RIPOFF FAGGOT

>>173176359
So uh, no one is going to mention that ass?

>>173176717
Thanks, next time I'm making a tilemap I'll try that out.

>>173176234
>>173176261
>>173176365
>>173176646

Time to learn C++ then.
Thanks.

>>173177369
Rose. I'm not even joking.
On another note, is looks like the Buster Sword. Is that intentional?

>>173177898
Not him, but the Buster Sword itself just looks like a gigantic box cutter/pen knife blade.

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>>173177732
THANKS QUEER

>>173177898
I'm drawing a whole bunch of swords for my game. Some of them are bound to share resemblance to other, more iconic swords. I try to keep them as unique as I can though.

>>173177898
When you say, Rose, you mean the cross part right? If so, know that it's actually against the fucking Geneva convention to have red crosses in video games.

>>173175291
Currently using Gamemaker, but Godot seems straight up better. It even has a usable language.

>>173178173
>Buster sword with a white pride symbol
>unique as I can
I wonder what the rest of the swords look like.

>>173178440
>white pride symbol
???

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>R loli M I N D jam R
loli jam runs April 1 to 15
post your progress in the thread to cause endless REEE from normie shitposters
upload your game to any filehost and link in the thread
if you get banned we will honor your memory
lolijam friendly irc is #AGDC on rizon.net (irc://rizon.net/AGDC)

does a visual novel with rpg stuff count as gamedeving?
renpy can handle at least a dungeon crawler

>>173178626
True games don't have stories.

https://blogs.unity3d.com/2017/03/31/5-6-is-now-available-and-completes-the-unity-5-cycle/

>>173178395
>mfw it is true

I still don't care, though.
Use Rose and don't think too much about it, any controversy might actually give your game some free publicity you will need.

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>>173177732
>>173177898
>>173178440
How does that look like a buster sword? Is it just the shape of the blade?

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is this nauseating enough?

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>>173179217
I mean, it DOES look pretty cool...

>>173179261
There's nothing about it that doesn't look like a buster sword other than the white pride symbol.

>>173178395
Technically I think it's "red cross on a white background" which is trademarked, not just any red cross.

>>173179425
for healers only

>>173179357
you need the entire stage to be a boat rocking against the sea. DO IT.

>>173178395
>it's actually against the fucking Geneva convention to have red crosses in video games
it's not the geneva convention, it's normal copyright iirc

only states and state agents can be tried under the geneva convention

>check previous thread
>autistic shitposter spent 19 hours talking about me or as me yesterday
hope he's sleeping well.

>>173179471
A cross is now a white pride symbol?

>>173179754
don't start this shit again you autist

>>173178864
>Unity 5 is now deprecated
>be a good boy and pay for 2017 now
After all the bullshit and lies they pulled with 5, I can't even be bothered to move on to their next version. I'd rather give Epic its 5% then sit around hoping Unity will finally fix their fucking garbage collection stuttering issues.

>>173179754
Even if gogem dies he will live on through shitposters anyway.
Maybe he's already dead, who knows?

>>173179261
I agree, but if you still don't want to keep it a Red Cross then I would suggest changing the symbol a bit, instead of changing the color. Rotate it to make a X or something.

>>173179425
I actually quite like that.

>>173179873
as long as he's cozy in bed nothing starts, pray for sweet dream

>>173179997
just don't use a fucking trip.

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>>173179831
A cross in a circle, or Celtic Cross, typically is

>>173180248
Are we gonna take this bait to its ultimate conclusion and talk about how [anything not white]-pride being okay but white pride not being okay is a racist contradiction?

>>173179967
>>173180248
Well, I had the cross green because I was planning on having the sword in a Celtic-inspired level. I'm not entirely sure about that anymore, but the sword still has to reflect the level it's found in.

>>173180490
No, the conclusion is that the buster sword has a white pride symbol on top of it, plain and simple.

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>>173180574
do a trinity knot instead, less obvious religious imagery but still very celtic

>>173180640
White pride midgard wide.

>>173180701
IMO even more celtic

If I had to select one image that conveyed "celtic" I'd go with that or a celtic labyrinth

>>173180701
I was actually thinking about something like that on the cross, but with 4 points instead of 3. If it comes off as a "white pride symbol, so be it. Controversy is free advertising and my game is already gonna have a furry slaughtering level, so it's not like being too edgy is something I'm concerned about.

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>>173180574
use the Unicursal Hexagram, it looks coolio

>>173181086
Already have that on another sword. I'd post it, but it's just a sketch atm

>>173181236
Don't tell me you're just putting generic random symbols in the hilts of generic swords.

Hey fellas. It's the guy who made the dragon thing, if anyone cares. Still make it too.

But I'm making a mobile zombie game right now. And I kinda don't know how to art. I want to get a nice top down style using something like the teddy's from conker. but I kinda suck. How can I replicate it that look from the top down of a guy in an army hat but kinda cartoony proportions?

>>173181415
Some of them have stuff like that. Like, I have a retro sci-fi design with a hilt that kinda looks like the Jimmy Neutron atom logo thing. Most of them aren't though.

>>173181618
Anon, that's shit design and I recommend you trash it all.

>>173181698
Deleting all of my game dev files as I type. Thanks for shutting me down early.

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>>173174968
>>173176394
I was doing the same thing here. I made it so that you can create a pattern with three different states (no tile, has tile, indifferent). Then it dumps the tile assigned to pattern into an array which represents neighbor masks.
It looks bad, but actually it's pretty good in use. You can do inline operations like rotation and rendering to streamline the process of defining custom autotiling.

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The weekend jam theme has been announced. It is "micro/small".

The jam officially starts in 24 hours and goes for 3 days.

>>173181985
Can I make a game about my penis?

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i think i might've gone overboard with these proportions. thoughts?
#lolijam

>>173178626
>>173178691
i kinda want to switch from gamemaker to something simpler
>>173182198
this is fucking terrifying

>>173182198
ALL THE WAY THROUGH

what does agdg think about godot? i kind of remember you discussing it in previous threads but i wasn't paying attention

is it better than gamemaker?

>>173182382
>from gm to something simpler
What the fuck anon, it's already one of the simplest engines around that aren't complete trash.

>>173182508
use godot if you don't want to learn monogame or something that's actual big programming, but don't want to seem like a babydev for using gamemaker

Anyone know a WebGL/OpenGL/whatever program with a good transformation matrix and matching vertex shader that I can steal?

My own transformation matrix + vertex shader almost works, but I can't get it quite perfect; either it has cutoffs too early, or it shoots vertices everywhere when said vertices go offscreen.

>>173180974
>furry slaughtering level
I'm really surprised that I've never seen this before but I really want it.

>>173183036
Sounds like you have a malformed projection matrix. Are you using a linear algebra library like GLM?

>>173182198
>dumb animeposters wanted to see deformed moeblobs getting fucked when they forced in this jam
>this is what they get instead

>>173183297
actually that is not what they get at all, already deleted that sketch wont be in the game, posted because it was silly
i want the ero scenes to use interesting angles so it takes a few go's

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>>173183274
Nope, it's all manually written.
Here's the projection matrix.
0,0 and 1,1 (or 1,1 and 2,2, I forget if the upper left corner is 0 or 1) of it look weird but it's irrelevant to the problem, it's just a way to make it scale nicely on canvases that are either wider than they are tall or taller than they are wide, rather than one or the other.

The rest of the projection matrix may be transposed from what you expect, but that's because it's written to be compatible with WebGL being column major, it makes no difference if the whole program is rewritten with row major then transposed; I tried that.

>>173174968
>>173184003

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>>173176702
>Bad programming in Lua
This is a project I'm really glad is in the garbage

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Is it a legitimate fear to worry about posting progress because you fear people may steal assets?

>>173183814
this changes everything

blender noob here. when should i use multiple objects for my mesh? if i were making a bike the wheels would be a separate object from the body right?

>try out godot because of the memes
>only option is 'play in browser', says I have to add export targets for other shit
>sure, let's go ahead and do that!
>error: export templates are missing, click to fix
>empty list with download button appears
>press download, nothing happens
>locate the official godot released templates, put them in the right spot and 'install from file'
>error: version.txt missing from templates!
HOLY SHIT WHAT A FUCKING MEME

>>173184467
If they can steal your asset and use it in a game before you then you have failed.

>>173184003
This doesn't look like any kind of projection I've ever seen. Vaguely orthographic, but with modifications that I don't understand (please use descriptive variable names, what are s and p?) that are likely to fuck things up.

>>173184537
in general no-one talks about it, but if you want to use godot, you must be ready to read its source code from cover to cover and meddle with it often

>>173184537
The export templates are right there in the download page, how incompetent can you be?
Do you even read the pages before clicking the big download buttons?

>>173184003
huh... have you tried identity + 1/c at [3, 3]?

>>173184467
This is why so many people are against 3D games here. They can't steal models from a picture.

>>173184668
Why would you think you need to download an external thing to even get the engine to run anything in the first place, shill?
Moreover, try reading the post before replying to it, it makes you (and thus your engine) seem less retarded when you don't, in fact, address points that were already defeated in advance.

>>173184659
You don't ever need to read the source code to make a complete game in Godot, it's designed with ease of use in mind.

>>173178395
>it's actually against the fucking Geneva convention to have red crosses in video games
You're joking there's no fu-

Holy shit. Why the fuck is the red cross not allowed in vidya?

>>173184579
S is scale, p is... perspective?
I think that's what it means, I did this a while ago.
If p is 0, it becomes orthographic.
It's 1 normally.

The n-- and p-- are something to do with a camera translation so that when the camera rotates, it doesn't look like a point 1 unit in front of the camera is being orbited.

It's something of a coding clusterfuck which is of course why I want to steal other code.

>>173184558
Because I'm too slow or because I gave them my assets?

>>173184808
It's not my or the engine's fault that you are too retarded to read simple instructions and put files in the correct places.

>>173184467
no

>>173184932
Actually it is.

>>173182198
Is that dick? Is that a baseball in her mouth?

>>173184890
>S is scale, p is... perspective?
Perspective matrices have 0 in the bottom-right spot, orthographic matrices have 1. That's one thing right there.

>The n-- and p-- are something to do with a camera translation so that when the camera rotates, it doesn't look like a point 1 unit in front of the camera is being orbited.
This is ridiculous. What you need to do is take simple transformations and multiply them together. This function is trying to do way too much at once.

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>>173184505
you will fap whether you want to or not, i can promise that.

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>>173184716

>>173185120
That simple transformation is in fact multiplied somewhere else, the n-- and f-- are just to make everything more coherent.

Also, what does that thing in the bottom right spot do exactly?

>>173185017
it's a delicious subway sandwich

>>173185286
Also I should add, what kind of vertex shader should I be using?

>>173185239
ayy

>>173185239
how did you know i have a thing for lamps

>>173185120
No, it's 1 at the bottom. Work it out yourself. W is 1 + z/c such that x, y are x/(1+z/c), y/(1+z/c) respectively. The +1 is needed.

>>173185239
Jesus fuck you are so bad at drawing anything. I'd rather fap to daco's awful gay fat inflation shit than your crystal treatment giraffes.

>>173185286
>That simple transformation is in fact multiplied somewhere else, the n-- and f-- are just to make everything more coherent.
What you should do is have separate perspective and orthographic matrix constructors for starters. Then do your near/far plane change in the branch where you choose your perspective matrix and not your orthographic matrix.

There's a reason that it's common practice to split transformations into model, view, and projection, it's a lot easier to reason about. Model transforms the object, view transforms the camera, and projection specifies the frustum.

>Also, what does that thing in the bottom right spot do exactly?
Switching perspective and orthographic based on homogeneous coordinates. It's a lot to explain and I only have an intuitive understanding of it so I don't think I could explain it.

>>173185415
What do you mean what kind?

>>173185587
M[3,3] of perspective projections is zero, M[3,3] of orthographic projections is one.

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>>173185568
reddit surveys

>>173185765
whether you want to or not

>>173185991
Is ass just a meme or what?

>>173185917
Completely wrong. M[3, 3] of a perspective projection is 1/c where c is the focal distance, M[3, 3] of orthographic is 0.

i'm an artfag who just wants to make a pretty game that I think is fun and practice animation.
Are there any inherent differences with the way GM:S 1.4 handles art vs Unity? Sprite resolution caps, animation differences, etc?

Not too worried about how hard either is to learn, just wondering art-wise which is less shitty to work with

>>173186120
oh wait, I mean M[3, 2], M[3, 3] is 1 for perspective and 0 for ortho. Look, it's not fucking hard. Draw yourself a picture if you need to. The equations are easy to derive.

>>173186256
>M[3, 3] is 1 for perspective and 0 for ortho.
It's the opposite. In any case his is 1 all the time even though the function should be able to produce either.

>>173186191
>i'm an artfag
furryshit is not art

>>173186321
Again, it's trivial for you to derive your equations on your own. What do you gain from being so stubbornly wrong on such a trivially verifiable issue?

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>>173186098
everyone likes ass

>>173186370
Orthographic (1):
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/bb205346(v=vs.85).aspx

Perspective (0):
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/bb205350(v=vs.85).aspx

>>173184537
>even the completely manual method (the one that's more manual than manual install) doesn't work
Meme/10 won't touch again this decade.

>>173186331
no it isn't, but that doesn't answer my question.

>>173186538
Holy shit. At least read what the fuck it says instead of copy-pasting shit you clearly don't have a single fucking clue about. Are you still in middleschool or fucking what? Fuck.

>>173176285
sexy

>>173186191
I don't know about Unity but GM is simple to work with and has no showstopping limitations.

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Does anyone have any character design references they'd like to share? Or even tutorials tbdesu. I think my artist knows even less than I do about the topic.

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>>173186879

>>173186717
Are we even talking about the same element? I used zero-based indexing because we are talking in a programming setting. Because those pages clearly show that I'm right.

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>>173185917
I mean, what should the vertex shader look like?
My transformation matrix is fairly standard, except that it only passes one matrix into the vertex shader.
Pic related.

By the way, I tried changing "n--" to "n-=5" in the projection matrix and suddenly it looks perfectly fine, but I don't like it because I don't know why it makes sense, it should just be n--.

>>173187023
This whole garbage shows that you literally do not understand elementary algebra.

>>173184414
you could do that in Javascript or Perl or a hundred other languages too, nothing there is unique to Lua except "nil" to mean "unallocated" and the colon (:) to replace some instances of the dot joiner (a.b)

>>173187076
Generally you pass the model, view and projection separately and multiply them in the shader. Please, for the love of god separate them. Do your camera transformation for orbiting with the view matrix, don't just make random changes to the projection matrix that is not actually just a projection matrix.

>>173187143
You're being incredibly vague about why you think I'm wrong in a way that makes me increasingly think you are just shitposting.

>>173187154
All I said was it's bad programming and it's in Lua, I didn't even imply anything in it was exclusive

>>173178173
that hilt ruins it.

>>173182508
For 2D, no doubt Godot is the best choice.
For 3D, it's better than Gamemaker. Godot 3 has PBR, and other 3D improvements, but we'll see how it compares to other 3D engines once its stable release comes.

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Sculpted another head

Yeah, I don't even know anymore

Pls gib ideas for settings

>>173187321
I have them separated, but they multiply outside of the vertex shader for better performance.
It doesn't matter, mathematically it's identical to multiplying inside the vertex shader.

So how am I supposed to solve the issue with it orbiting if not in the camera and projection matrix?
It'd be really useful to know an alternative, the problem is that all the WebGL tutorials I can find actually leave the orbiting issue in there which is fucking retarded.
Also, now I'm really confused as to whether the bottom right corner of the projection matrix should be 0 or 1.

>>173187818
what a cute loli

>>173187894
Oh, gogum

>>173187826
Resolution and keybindings

>>173187826
Audio
Resolution
Vsync

>>173187826
Low
Medium
High
420

>>173187629
Freudian slip in reading I guess, I thought you said you were glad the language was in the garbage
I should sleep more

>>173181985
Really wish it lasted more than 3 days. The weekend is the worst time for devving for me.
But I'll see if I can make something.

>>173187818
no one knows what it's like...

>>173187848
>I have them separated, but they multiply outside of the vertex shader for better performance.
Well, yes, you don't HAVE to multiply them in the shader. That's generally what is done, though, as when your shader gets more complex you may only want to use the model matrix or just the model*view for some things.

>So how am I supposed to solve the issue with it orbiting if not in the camera and projection matrix?
You do have to do it in the matrix, but you don't do it by poking and modifying individual elements. You multiply a chain of transformations together.
Orbiting is just:
1. Translate
2. Rotate
3. Translate back
This would be (at least part of) the chain for your view matrix.

>>173187826
Hard
Normal
Game Journalist

>>173187970
>>173187949
>>173187941
I bet you faggots think your real clever, don't you?

>>173184537
>download godot
>download export templates
>install export templates
>it just works
I have no idea what you're doing wrong, how did you manage to mess something this simple up?

>>173188221
Yes.

>>173188158
Those 3 steps are what I do to change it from orbiting to point-of-view, but I still need to have that n-- and f-- thing in the projection matrix to make the specified near and far cutoffs true, otherwise I'd have to say that a point-blank cutoff is -1 rather than 0.
I think that this part is not the source of the problem.

I just remembered that the source of the problem is definitely the vertex shader.
The issue is that I don't know what's going on with the depth.
Check out >>173187076 again.
gl_Position.w affects gl_Position.z I believe, and that causes issues.
Specifically, the near cutoff is too far from the camera, and the far cutoff is nonexistent.
That's why I need to know what the vertex shader should be like!

>>173188221
>Asks for ideas for settings
>Receives ideas for settings

What were you expecting?

>>173188742
The vertex shader is fine.

>I still need to have that n-- and f-- thing in the projection matrix to make the specified near and far cutoffs true
Just pass in different near/far values to the function, Christ. Anyways, you need to remake your entire perspective function from scratch to actually work. Just Google it, or even better find a library so you don't have to do this stuff yourself.

https://github.com/godotengine/godot/issues/6272
my computer can't run godot lol

>>173188995
>no GPU
wew

>>173188854
Ideas for settings like "Forest", "Space", "Underwater"

>>173189076
there is literally nothing with having integrated graphics

>>173188995
Godot already requires lower specs to run than most modern engines. There comes a point when you need to upgrade from your 10 year old hardware.

>>173189210
You don't even have integrated graphics.

>>173187806
>GM works
>Godot doesn't
>someone godot is better than anything
lol

I cant make 2d art. Where would I find assets aside from OpenGameArt? What do you non-art designer anons do in these type of situations.

>>173188992
Why should I modify what passes in the values?
Near and far are never not going to be reduced by 1, it just overcomplicates things to have it outside the projection matrix.

Also, the vertex shader isn't fine.
There are two variants of it that I've tried, and which issue the program has depends on the variant used.

gl_Position = position
This one messes up the near and far cutoffs, but that's the only issue.

gl_Position = vec4(position.xy/position.z, position.z, 1.0)
This one has correct near and far cutoffs but vertices jump around when they go offscreen.

>>173188230
>download godot
>dowload export templates
>install export templates
>"error: version.txt not in archive"
>it just doesn't work

>>173187826
whatever the fuck dishonoured is
journey setting
the science fantasy thing hld and horizon zero dawn has
>>173189283
7 years old
>>173189327
yes i do

>>173189475
Neither of those are what you have in the screenshot. If the vertex shader in the screenshot doesn't give you results, it's because of the matrix.

>>173189529
>google error
>find out what you did wrong

>>173189689
But if the matrix is the issue, why can the near and far cutoff issue be solved by changing the vertex shader at the cost of introducing a different bug, all while leaving the matrix unhanged?

>>173189724
>google error
>not even a single hit, let alone irrelevant hits

>>173189529
I downloaded to see if you were right or not. I don't know what to tell you, I downloaded it from the official website without issue.

>>173189676
The Athlon 5400B does not have integrated graphics. If you're using Windows, if something wants to use OpenGL it has to do so with the Windows-provided 1.1 software renderer.

>>173189847
I downloaded everything from https://godotengine.org/download

>>173189840
Then you better report this bug!

>>173189397
Godot is better than Gamemaker, better performance, more flexibility, and real 3D support. Personally I think it has a better workflow and language as well.
But if you can't get it to run, then maybe Gamemaker is better for you.

>>173189816
You didn't use the matrix here.
>gl_Position = position
>gl_Position = vec4(position.xy/position.z, position.z, 1.0)

>>173189983
But position = matrix * vec4(vertexPosition, 1.0)

>>173189864
no, the motherboard will have integrated graphics in the chipset

otherwise he couldnt have even a screen attached to the pc

All enginedevs should assemble and work on the same engine instead of scattering. It would be more productive, probably more fun, and you can just fork everyone's work once you've had enough of everyone else being retarded, if that's your thing.

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>>173189968
>Godot is better than Gamemaker, better performance, more flexibility, and real 3D support.
>better performance
>doesn't even perform
>>173189864
intel i3

>>173190125
hobbyist enginedevs do that because they want to do it all from scratch, if you're working with others, you're not doing it all, which defeats the whole purpose of the thing.

>>173189195
Jungle pyramid
Desert diner
Underwater bus
Space farm
A city built inside the corpse of a dead god

What are you going to do with these environments, anon?

>>173189409

anyone?

>>173190158
So, Godot is a shit engine because you're using old hardware that Godot doesn't run on?

>>173190354
You're still doing it from scratch if you're doing it with other people, and with proper methodology you have incremental-enough changes that you shouldn't miss anything. But fair enough.

>>173190125
i'd be really happy for other engine devs to work on my engine, i've even been thinking of saving up some of my unemployment beneifts to hire some internet contractor to do some of the coding for me, but I keep spending it all on groceries to cook food with and can never save up enough

but no one wants to do anything with my engine because they don't like it and have their own

>>173190095
Yeah, I realized that just before you posted. Couldn't tell you why exactly they both almost work, but in any case your matrix is malformed. Stop trying to hack on top of a broken foundation.

>>173190125
That would defeat the point, as the engine would have to work for everybody's games.

>>173190473
yes

fuck godot, fuck white people and fuck donald trump

>>173190507
Where's your repo at anon-chan?
>>173190518
Your engine should strive to be fairly general and only specialize when it's developed to the point you have the base concepts implemented and isolated. At that point, the remaining contribution from each devs are non-conflicting improvements to the engine that allow overall better variety as well as quality. It's a net benefit on that end. The first argument was stronger.

>>173190518
Well, do you know of any non-malformed matrices I could copy, which have matching vertex shaders?
Or do you want me to upload the program so you can tamper with it?

>>173190773
Accurate as all fuck. It's fucking perfect.

>>173190401
>Jungle pyramid
This one seems plausible. I'm the swordfag that posted earlier. My game centers around going through levels to obtain a sword that represents that level in order to advance, so I'm trying to bang out some concepts that I can, at the very least, use as testing art.

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>>173190401
>city built inside the corpse of a dead god
first thought

>>173190694
>Your engine should strive to be fairly general
This is exactly what causes custom engines to be dropped or be finished but end up still bad. The engine part should be hardly distinguishable from the rest of the code unless you've made a bunch of games and iteratively reused code between all of them. At this point you might have something a bit more generic but it's okay because it evolved that way out of need and not because you simply made it a goal.

If you're writing an engine and not a game, you're doing it wrong. This is coming from a hardcore enginedev.

>>173190791
You can find the definitions of these matrices anywhere, just make sure the order and handedness match up. Is there really no library you could use for all your linear algebra?

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>>173190959
>>173190401
Mine was pic related

>>173190959
>>173191319
what about the one from motb

>>173191037
It's the opposite, the engine should be very clearly distinguished from the code. Otherwise you can never reuse it anyway. It's fine if you don't actually plan to make a game ever again, or if you are making the engine for the sake of pure learning, but otherwise it's as stupid as designing an engine around the opengl fixed function pipeline.

>>173191037
The definitions of the matrices are correct, their handedness matches up and no other ordering of them seems to work (unless I change their handedness, in which case the order that works has all the same issues).

I can't see anything I can fix with the matrices, which is why I suspect the vertex shader is at fault.

By the way, when I said gl_Position = vec4(position.xy/position.z, position.z, 1.0) I actually should have said position.xy/position.w

Reminder that enginedevving is only acceptable for simulations that need to squeeze out all the performance they can get.

>>173191837
I'm listening.

>>173191546
The z should be divided by w as well. Dividing by w will be done automatically, so once you divide z as well there will be no difference between the two. Couldn't tell you why exactly not dividing z still sort of works and just changes what's not working to something else, but it depends on your values.

Either way, YOUR MATRIX IS STILL BROKEN, at least assuming you pass p = 1. There's no other option that I can see, and since you're not using a standard matrix constructor I'm not at all surprised. Change your matrix and reevaluate, there's no point trying to decipher the bug when you know that there's something wrong.

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Tried adding an easing function to my sword swing. I might use different ones depending on the strength of the swing. Also finally made the player look in different directions.

>>173191426
>It's the opposite, the engine should be very clearly distinguished from the code. Otherwise you can never reuse it anyway.
Maybe if you're bad at decoupling in general. What I mean is that you shouldn't give the engine part special treatment, because how do you define the boundary? You'll just waste your time trying to decide what's part of the engine and what's not and making the engine part too generic because you've set the precedent that it's special.

Program exactly what you need to make your game. If you can't reuse any of it, it doesn't matter, because you only programmed what you needed and thus didn't waste any time.

for something like food or a basic item how many verts is low poly?

>>173192530
4

Let's say I'm making an episodic VN, and I upload onto itch.io. Will the new update to the game page be counted as new?

>>173192232
p = 0 makes it orthographic, still leaves the near and far cutoff issues in place.
The problem is that the near and far cutoffs are dependent on depth, which is fine if depth isn't being affected by anything, but depth is affected by position.w.
That's why I tried the position.xy/w, position.z thing.
I just can't see how any vertex shader can function correctly when position.z is divided by position.w

>>173192530
The lowest number of verts you can use to still represent the item you're trying to model.

>>173192660
>I just can't see how any vertex shader can function correctly when position.z is divided by position.w
Clip space is a unit box (or half of one, depending on whether you use OpenGL or D3D). Dividing it all by w to normalize w back to 1 is how homogeneous coordinates work. If you need to not divide z by w to get it to clip the way you want, you don't have correct near or far distances.

Again, stop hacking on top of a broken foundation. The matrix is wrong for perspective because the bottom right element in a perspective matrix should be 0. I think you are just misunderstanding near/far planes and not passing the right values, but it may be something else in the matrix function. What I do know is that it will work if you use a well-established definition and pass the right near/far distances. Right now you seem to have neither, and while a broken clock is right twice a day you haven't gotten there yet and probably never will just through trial and error.

So for my day off I spent 5 hours bugfixing and the rest of the time playing pokemon yellow. What'd you guys do today?

>>173193049
Spent 2 hours optimizing and restructuring some code.
Then the rest of the day playing San Andreas.

>>173193049
Skipped class to program my game and work on ideas with my partner all day

>>173193495
Gimme dem ducats

>>173176394
Theres a way to map the tiles so that if you want a rotated instance, you simply multiply the base by 4.

>>173193049
reduced a graphically annoyance by i'd say 80% today. Considering it's been bothering me for like 4 months, i'd say this is a win.

>>173193024
Hang on; isn't what I'm doing with near and far in the projection matrix (see >>173184003 ) already supposed to normalise the depth to remain between -1 and 1?
I think that might be the issue!

In which case, what does the near + far part of a projection matrix that's made assuming "gl_Position = position" look like?

>>173193049
Still trying to finish up this last characters mechanics/scoring balance so I can get back to stage stuff. DD14 is not that far off and I have a ton I want done before then. I won't want to submit to 14 if the project isn't all that different from 13's submission.

any 3D devs looking for animators

>>173193692
Exactly, the projection matrix is responsible for projecting from view space to clip space. But your matrix is still broken for perspective no matter what you pass as your near/far distance. I really don't want to say this again.

>In which case, what does the near + far part of a projection matrix that's made assuming "gl_Position = position" look like?
http://www.songho.ca/opengl/gl_projectionmatrix.html#perspective
Just copy this, you might have to transpose it.

>>173193948
sure post animation

>>173193049
played vidya for two weeks straight

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>>173194009

>>173192525
Does it describe a scene? It's the game. Does it describe a movement scheme? It's the game. Does it enable you to describe a movement scheme? It's the engine. Does it allow setting up a scene? It's the engine.

But really, if you yourself don't understand how to tell the difference, you're probably not exactly the kind of person that should work on game engines.

>>173194228
Looks mediocre as all fuck.

>>173175489
Will prone actually work I thought your dudes fell apart at the drop of a pin

>>173194385
alright

>>173193964
No luck, sadly.
Tried lots of variants of it too.
Are you sure that's not also meant to normalise position.z which is what I'm trying to avoid since position.w already does that?

>>173194463
Don't worry, he's just shitposting. This isn't the best place to connect with devs.

>>173194808
well hes not wrong, i hardly put work into that

where should i go then

>>173194385
>not posting feedback so Anon can improve

>>173194808
Lying for backpats and muh feels is sure going to help him out instead of telling him the truth.

>>173194228
I don't understand why you would render/record a 3D animation horizontally like this.

>>173194896
You didn't give any advice, don't pat yourself on the back too hard.

>>173194968
fighting games?

>>173194863
Thing is, the bar is so low in agdg threads because progress posts are rare

>>173194896
Have you see the rest of the thread?

>>173194259
>But really, if you yourself don't understand how to tell the difference, you're probably not exactly the kind of person that should work on game engines.
I program things. I don't care to categorize them arbitrarily for no benefit. If I make a game and reuse some of its code for my next game, I guess I'll call that "engine".

Obviously I am using abstraction and compartmentalization when necessary but it's 100% pragmatic. For example, each platform has its own executable and all the platform-agnostic code is factored out into a library. The platform-agnostic code contains both what you would consider "engine" and "game" code. This is based on a very real division involved in cross-platform programming, not some imaginary line that doesn't serve a purpose.

>>173194228
the timing is all off.
action before reaction, mate.

>>173194968
really makes you think

>>173194883
I felt like there wasn't much feedback to give. The animations are stiff (see especially near the end of the sequence, the troll's step up and slam down move, or the sideway swing before that). The character's limb are not compatible with the motions presented (see jug's slide-teleport near the beginning, or the really crappy pirouette toward the end). The timing isn't very good either, especially around those moves that have already been listed above, giving a stop-and-force rhythm that isn't natural at all.

All in all, it's mediocre as fuck. There's nothing particular to comment about.

>>173195065
>I program things.
Not professionally, that much is clear.

>>173195076
>gogem

stopped reading there

>>173194968

t.shitpost of the day

>>173195038
But its clearly not moves from a fighting game, its just a regular animation shot orthographically.

>>173194713
If the matrix on that page doesn't do what you want then your near/far are wrong.

>Are you sure that's not also meant to normalise position.z which is what I'm trying to avoid since position.w already does that?
Just completely forget about this normalization process, it's not relevant to you (if you do it manually in the vertex shader, you will actually mess up perspective correct texture mapping). Mentally identify the homogeneous coordinate (x, y, z, w) with the point (x/w, y/w, z/w).

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>>173194228
Paging dev for slightly more helpful feedback: >>173195128

My own crit: Try holding longer at start or ends of attacks. Then make swings faster (ie instantaneous).

pic related but not the best example. I need to find a better thing for this.

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So I followed an advise from the other night and rendered a sunset/sunrise skybox in Vue.
4096x2048 was rendering painfully long though.

>>173195596
Oh, and if you're wondering, the homogeneous coordinate (x, y, z, 0) is identified with the vector (x, y, z). Subtle difference - the main thing is that vectors won't be affected by translation, as you would expect.

>>173195618
>I need to find a better thing for this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ip4Ot2rZCA&list=PLaW5cpjBPpWrO1dRq4PAERAnoX2h2QldR&index=6

his main problem though is like i said >>173195076 action before reaction, he has reaction motions starting in synchronous with actions.

>>173195995
looks nice so far, looking forward to more iterations.

>>173195242
If being a professional means wasting my time putting arbitrary relationships and categorizations in my code then I'm glad I'm not one.

>>173195596
Well I have no idea what to do then.
By the way, I notice that although the projection matrix you linked me to does sort of work, it shows nothing unless the bottom right is 1; nothing shows if it's 0.

>>173196146
It's only arbitrary to the neophytes like you.

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>>173195995
This was a sunset skybox before Vue.

>>173196206
What are your near/far values?

>>173196215
Mind illustrating how rigorously separating the "engine" and the "game" in code is useful?

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>>173195618

>>173196285
0.1 and 10.
Would be using 0 and 10, but if I do that there's no way to distinguish between the near cutoff being where it should and the near cutoff being further back than it should.

Also, for the time being I disabled all the parts of the code relating to fixing the issue with the camera seeming to orbit, so I could focus on the major issues.

>>173196305
remove the smears and this is great

>>173196502
So I'm guessing you don't like SF3 animation?

>>173196430
Near can't be 0 (and probably shouldn't be negative, though I've never tried it) if you have a perspective matrix, just a warning.

Another possible reason you can't see anything is simply that you don't have any geometry in the frustum. If all you have is that projection matrix, your camera's position is at the origin and it'll be facing towards +Z (maybe -Z, I don't know for sure off the top of my head).

>>173196643
you're going to want to use the full name of whatever that is.

>>173196643
Googem suffers from akinetopsia. He hates anything relation to motion.

Does Windows 10 have a default program that can record wavs when you plug in a microphone?

If not, what are some good free ones?

>>173196502
>It's been like over 2 years and this retard is still autistic about smears
Jesus christ I should really stop coming here

>>173194228
it look pretty good for an amateur game dev, but it's hard to tell with that fucked up perspective.

>>173196886
Audacity.

I wanna make my own subUV textures for Unreal particles, anybody got any guides?

>>173196285
Do you want me to illustrate why 1 + 1 = 2, too? Come back when you've grown past the level of fizzbuzz and hello world, it'll come naturally.

>>173175901
holy shit. I thought that was a broken screen from the thumbnail.

>>173196930
you dont stop hating things you think are terrible.
your post conveys that well. better than a smear can convey motion in time.

>>173196721
The camera can be translated and rotated with WASD and the mouse respectively.
Also, near being 0 often doesn't cause issues, it just depends on whether divide by 0 errors occur.
Like, I've never seen a crash from near being 0, even though it's probably possible in some languages.
Blender never crashes or has any issues from near being 0, but near for the camera is 0.1 by default.

Maybe this would make a lot more sense if I understood the relationship between the object's distance from the camera and the value of position.w.

>>173196930
It's gogem, what did you expect

>>173184467
that's why I'm not posting progress yet.

I need to be closer to the finish line before I expose what I have

not really worried about assets, but ideas.

It's an abundance of caution thing. I'm just scared that someone would come and rush to market before me.

>>173196251

i liked this one better desu

the jews invented smears in animation and propagated it and convinced you they were good animation.
not that it matters who did it.

>>173197509
No convincing had to be done. The results speak for themselves.

>>173197602
the red pill is here waiting for you.

>>173196721
>>173197159
Hang on a moment
I just realised I copied the differences in the projection matrix wrong, I had an n-f instead of an f-n
Now I can actually have the bottom right of the matrix as 0 while still able to see stuff.
Also, the camera isn't orbiting anymore, and near and far cutoffs seem to work fine (not absolutely sure they're correct).

There's just the slight problem that everything is backwards, background objects render in front.

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Hey guys,

Just wanted to recommend an instagram page I found with 1000+ pictures many of which are great for environment inspiration

...
@beeple_crap

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>>173198450
to save instagram pics just go view source, ctrl+f for 'jpg' and copy the first link that comes up, it will lead straight to the image displayed on that page

https://www.instagram.com/beeple_crap/?hl=en

>>173177493
that shits easy, you just hook up a print string node to a begin play node and add "hello world" to the little field in the print string node

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I don't know if this is all his stuff but if it is he's a pretty damn good artist.

Enjoy.

>>173194228
You need more breakdown poses. There's no way around it.
Your animation looks like what happens when you convert to spline/clamped without having enough poses. It's just floating from one pose to the next.

It helps a lot to think of 3D animation as stop motion instead of traditional animation. The program can only interpolate so much.

>>173198450
>building made out of lit up camera lenses

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Netcode is a bunch of bitchwork.

>>173199152
just use raknet dude

>>173198934
Not him but this sounds like good advice. From now on I will pretend I am animating Nightmare Before Christmas.

>>173199264
Nah that's not the problem. Just serializing and deserializing rpg data is tedious as all shit.

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Hey guys me and my friend want to make a tactical rpg in the style of fire emblem, but we both have very little coding experience. is there such thing as a retard level engine like rpg maker (which we already made a game on) that could support something like this?