/twg/ - Total War General

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Who /rats/ here?

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Second for History is fun and so is Fantasy

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Xth for horse archers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el93MIxAf-c

third for spending more time reading /twg/ than actually playing lately

>>173158221
That fat git doesn't charge anything. He got carried into combat by his handlers.

Your king looks like he's driving in a car.

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>Nagash still not announced

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>>173159498
>tfw 90% of Skaven roster will be unplayable with current game design

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>>173159676
>you'll never right the wrongs done to you by driving a steampowered car through grobi and urki scum

Anyone watch the stream today? Any new info?

>>173159923
Calling it now, optimal stack will be hero/17 storm vermin and 2 rat ogres

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How will this end?

>>173159989
And it will still have worse morale than a unit of goblins with no lord or hero character nearby.

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>Encamp as Kholek
>some spy fucking assassinates him
>get him back
>all my buildings are gone
Is this a bug or i just got memed on

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G O B L I N S

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In fire

>>173160410
Hordes and heroes leading them are different things. Use the replace lord button if you want your assassinated lord to lead the same horde again.

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>>173159989
>Skaven armies will be smaller than Empire as a result
>swamp'em armies will never be good outside first 30 turns or ever on MP

>>173160260
Why would it be so low? Stormvermin will probably be foot squire tier. Clanrats though, those guys will be shit.

>>173160706
>spamming shit and moving it at the enemy doesn't work in mp
Good, it should stay that way.

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Warhammer elves are for _____

>>173160985
Purging

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progress going good so far as armenia, i'm recording soldier deaths/ enemy kills for this campaign too, not sure if i should betray the seleucids and carve them up with egypt or use them as a buffer, egypt and seleucia are pretty even military wise it's gonna be interesting

zerg rushed parthia and killed them quickly, moving in on pontus too

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fucking lel

https://www.totalwar.com/blog/quick-word-on-historical-titles/

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>>173160880
but 20 Shaggoth armies and triple Shaggoth/Gorebulls are fine tho

>>173160648
Okay let me explain this.
I had Kholek, full stack with fully upgraded infrastructure.
He got assasinated so i replaced him with other Lord.
But now i have no buildings anymore. Everything is fucked.
Can't even recruit.
what happened

Started getting some choppy camera movement on the campaign map recently. It'll start off smooth and then after going back to the campaign map after a battle it'll start stuttering around pretty badly. Can't find any answers on google other than to update my drivers and shit, which is already updated. Any ideas how to fix it?

>tfw this happens right as i'm about to finish off the greenskins

>>173160104
Hopefully with French victory

Vive l'Empereur

>>173160985
holding hands

>>173160260
Skaven arent THAT cowardly man, lebotomized slaves jand Rat 9fres especially.

>>173161215
He's a big guy, and when he got assassinated he fell over and flattened the buildings.

>>173160985
Consensual sex

Because it's not rape if it's an elf.

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historycucks btfo

>>173161141
That animal DLC was pretty shit though.

>>173161287
so this is a bug i presume

>>173161272
Thanks phone.
And rat ogres*

>>173160985
being confused and slightly disappointed around orcs that don't rape.

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>>173160985
you already know the answer anon

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>>173161141
Medieval 1 HD when.

Empire 2 when

>>173161141
>CA can expect my purchase
I'm sure they're looking forward to it.

>>173161384
Still takes some mighty autism to get upset about it.

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Stop playing fantasy

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>>173161263
But Anon, /vg/ is a blue board. That's lewd.

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>>173161384
The worst part is that a modder showed DLC assets can be used by making the dlc units mercenaries

>>173161505
The steam rerelease came out a few years back

>>173161549
Stop LARPing Kristian.

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>>173161384
It didn't even include best unit.

>>173159885

But he's already a LL for Greenskins.

>>173159923
apparently they want to release with larger rosters

>>173161747
Warhammer seriously needs these and war dogs.
At least give me incendary rats/skinks.

>>173161861
Incendiary Peasants

>>173161861
All the small, but vicious dogs are taken by adventurers, sorry.

>>173161747
How drunk were people in ancient times?
>right, I've got a great idea for the army
>we get some pigs
>and set them on fire

>>173161768
Thats not Nagash in that crown anon. More importantly it doesn't have control of Azhag, unfortunately for it, an Orc just couldn't be influenced in such a mind controlling way. They argue though.

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>>173159410
I have some lore questions for you guys

>do grey mountain dwarfs considered as inferior or "different" by the dwarfs of other realms.
>How did Athel Loren became so small?
>Why other Elector-Counts are tolerating Cult of Sigmar to keep electing Princes of Altdorf as emperors?
>Are savage orks really that different from dwarf hold orcs?
>how do the beastmen breed?
>why does slaanesh have dips on every single elf's soul?

>>173161774
unplayable as in if it doesn't have armor and/or AP it doesn't do anything aside from terrain decoration

>>173162110

> For like food?
> Dude no fuck that

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Guise, I beat the game on hard as Chaos.
Can i be in the club now?

>inb4 not Long Campaign

Dunno if that is a bug but i just lost all my buildings after Lord died. This shit is a campaign breaker. I don't feel like rebuilding everything again

>>173162119
>the greatest necromancer ever
>can't mind control a simple orc
Now we know why Nagash resorted to raising brainless hordes, he's a total social autist.

>>173162289
>291 turns
Did you spend a load of time awakening the norscan tribes you silly sausage?

>>173162110
Well it worked pretty well. The pigs tend to run fowards and it spread chaos and confusion on enemy lines, which roman formations could exploit

Of course they didn't have specific handlers like in Rome I, and it happened like 4 registered times total, but hey, in a game with Roman Ninjas anything's possible

Not even complaining, the mod I cherish the most for Rome II right now is the one that adds Arcani]

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>>173159525
>tfw when you will never get to charge into the Ottomans at the siege of Vienna

jdimfsa already

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>>173162131
>tfw your mom is the hottest woman of your species

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>>173162426
No, i spent a lot of time running away from 2-stacks following me around. They really wanted me dead.
I can't sustain 2 armies without going into debt and keeping sacking cities is a fucking pain.
Playing Chaos is a pain in general...

But is it really like this? You die and lose all buildings? It's fucking punishing if yes

Are Beastmen done better?

>>173162131
>do grey mountain dwarfs considered as inferior or "different" by the dwarfs of other realms.
Poorfags

>How did Athel Loren became so small?
Humans (and other races) pushed it back to make way for themselves, elves eventually took over what remains and kill trespassers since then (there's still the Worldroots connecting most forests with Athel Loren)

>Why other Elector-Counts are tolerating Cult of Sigmar to keep electing Princes of Altdorf as emperors?
Most of them don't give a shit as long as they remain independent

>Are savage orks really that different from dwarf hold orcs?
Savage orcs are fanatics, refuse to use metal tools and weapons and embrace the Gork way

>how do the beastmen breed?
Old canon: rape humans
New canon: chaos corrupts everything

>why does slaanesh have dips on every single elf's soul?
They apparently taste better (longer life -> tastier soul)

>>173162131
Who are you quoting?

>>173162131
>Are savage orks really that different from dwarf hold orcs?
Yes, they reject use of armour and proper weapons completely, they have far better oral lore that describes their history and traditions that they subscribe to. And unlike normal orcs, who pay lip service to Gork and Mork at best, Savage orcs are very religious.

>how do the beastmen breed?
Like everyone else. They have does that get fucked by the biggest alpha in the tribe. Also they get a lot of manpower by raising mutated babies who were left in the forest by parents who didn't have the guts to kill them proper. Beastmen somewhat revere (or just use as tribe mascots) these human-born beastmen as the purest ones, gifted directly by the dark gods. Also some humans mutate into beastmen during their lives due to chaotic "gifts", but they aren't recognized as proper beastmen and treated worse than ungors.

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>>173162131
not really

it was never that big tho TWW map scaling is a bit off

Cult of Ulrich has a vote too but Reikland Emperors have had a really good track record

Yes and they tend to stick to themselves even when joining a WAAGH greenskin mobs are high school cliques, you hang around those like you

Everyway imaginable, there are females and there are other animals/humans to fuck

Their decadence/depravity helped create him/her/it (literally what you want Slaanesh to be)

>>173162778
Yes, since you can actually hide and shit. Beastpaths help a lot too. Playing Chaos is torture compared to beastmen.

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Back in Savoy lands, lads. Dijon is the next to be italicized.

>>173162131
Grey Mountain Dorfs mine tin instead of gromril or gold like their kin in the world's edge mountains

>>173163025
Fug.. wish i could afford DLC :^(

>>173162131
Savage orcs consider themselves purer than others cus they refuse to fight with metal and often witho.ut goblins.

Elves arent slaaneshy in fantasy.

BIG OLD BEAST DICK AND SOPPING WET GOR CUNT.

>>173161585
Who dis?

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>>173162437

>The pigs tend to run fowards and it spread chaos
>Pigs
>Chaos

>The altdorf barracks kitchen was going to serve bacon today.
BY SIGMAR, NO.

>>173162437
What mod?

>>173162778
>I can't sustain 2 armies without going into debt
Anon, you have 235k in that picture, that's enough to sustain another horde for 100 turns, even assuming they don't actually do jack shit to earn you money. I swear they should put a huge info box at the start of horde campaigns with "YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE NEGATIVE INCOME; SACK FFS".

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Pontic War has been concluded with Pontus being completely destroyed

Total military strength - 10,863
War length - 3 years
Armenian dead - 3,134
Pontic Dead - 4,140

>>173162403
He couldn't, orcs are too.. "special", we'll say.

>>173162778
Oh, and also beastmen get great upkeep reducing buildings, which allow you to sustain hordes much easier.

>>173163078
Makes me want to start that empire savoy campaign I was thinking about, but

>1 province france

basically stops me from ever waging an early war against france because if you can't capture territory because of house rules it just becomes a pointless bloodshed that will eventually favour perfidious albion

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>>173163596
LEAVE PONTUS ALONE!!!!!

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>"See that candle, stunty? That's dwarf fat, that is!"
>"Another tribe, welcome! -Get your knives out, boys-"
>"How can we fleec- I mean, help you?"


Is he, dare I say, the greatest gobo?

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>>173163603
well i've lost all my buildings anyway somehow due to bug or either design.
Thanks for tips though.
Now i have to camwhore myself or something to get DLC because i am poor as fuck

>>173162897
>Their decadence/depravity helped create him/her/it (literally what you want Slaanesh to be)
thats 40k lore

>>173162472
doesn't matter, still had sex with her

>>173163831
The greatest greenskin.

>>173163831
he is the avatar of Mork

>>173163831
He is though.

>>173159923
>90% of Skaven roster will be unplayable with current game design
how?

I don't get what you mean

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>>173163831
Warlord of Eight Peaks!

>>173164098
he's just being a cuck don't listen to him sweetie

>>173164098
I think he means that Skaven are meant to use hordes of shitty units to pin the enemy in place and use their powerful ones to do the killing, but just like Vampire Counts, there's no reason to actually use said shitty units because of the way armies work in TW.

dae miss the old army/recruiting/replenishing system from m2/r1

>>173164318
But VC do make use of shitty units way into late-game?

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AAAAHHHHHHHHHH BADLANDS

>>173164318
factions like orcs, vc and others focused on shitty units should have higher amount of units per stack BUT a limited number of elite units, so VC armies say get 25 units instead of 20, but at least 15 must be basic skellies and zombos

>>173162778
You know that there's no problem with falling into negative income per turn, right?

With hordes, you are supposed to make up for it by keeping a money buffer from sacking

And beastmen are hordes done right. if you didn't want to kill yourself from playing >Chaos you will like them

>>173164402
how the fuck did you replenish troops in M2

I could never figure out how and would just merge/disband units after battles because I couldnt get it

>>173164402
Actually not really, it was a major pain in the ass. It also made fielding elite units early on a pain, since they would inevitably be whittled down and become very hard to replenish. The AI would also have a problem with it. I sometimes still play Medieval 2 and I'm fine with it, but I don't miss it at all whenever I play newer games.

>>173164138
>DD Elfs

This is wrong, Elves are universally flat, it's the price they pay for their long lives.

>>173164098
clanrats, slaverats, giant rats, rat swarm and weapons teams will more than likely not be used since swarming armies aren't effective in the slightest.

VC, Greenies, Beastmen, are supposed to be swarmy. Empire and Bretonnia can be with certain builds but instead you get armored/ap spam and there is no reason not to do so.

With this as it is Skaven will probably not be able to swarm either since if its not ap its not worth bringing

>>173164506
There were moments when i wanted to kill myself indeed, like fucking healing up.
I can't merge shit like Shaggoths or Manticores :^(

>>173164402
yes, if they must pander to casuals they should at least make it like the empire replenishment system

>>173164586
You had to send damaged units back to cities that could train those units, and then retrain them. Retraining recruitment depending on unit pool availability in Medieval 2. The best way to do it was merge most of your units to full strength, send the last unmerged unit of like 20 guys off to get retrained if you want to preserve some of the unit experience, and then train a replacement unit locally.

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>>173163078
Ding ding we win a castle and the Burgundians have only one province left. From here honestly I might have to beat up on either Aragon or Germany, because directly to my west lays the vast armies of France.

>>173164586
did you never notice the "retrain" tab

>>173164402
Played Rome1 so long ago I can't remember it. What's different about it?

>>173164402
The only people that miss this must have a sever case of nostalgia-glasses, it was really only annoying.

>>173164767
ah, that makes sense

>>173164784
yes, but I didn't know that only certain castles/cities could retrain certain units. thats why when id bring a stack of knights to a settlement I couldn't retrain then so

>>173164802
no retarded army limits
replenishment has to be done manually, inside of a settlement where that kind of troop can be recruited
>>173164840
>hurr durr nostalgia goggles
kys

>>173164840
it forced you to either be careful with elites, or recruit shit tier units because elites were harder to replenish both due to logistics AND because it took longer for them to be available for recruitment, in newer titles I can just throw my best forces into the grinder because they'll replenish in a few turns

>>173164907
>kys

Great argument you got there.

>>173165027
>The only people that miss this must have a sever case of nostalgia-glasses, it was really only annoying.
you too

>>173164660
The way I use manticores is just throwing them at annoying ranged units and artillery without bothering to camp to heal them, then when they die or came close enough I just replace them. Easier to do so with WoC since all units have a one turn build time.

>>173165063
It's certainly a better argument.

>>173164995
If only elite units recovered losses slower than militia...

>>173165235
not an argument

>>173164995
>have different replenishment rates for different units
>have best of both worlds without the annoying busywork
Going back would be a downgrade and you know it. If I wanted to micromanage everything I'd play HoI3.

>>173165092
Dragon ogres (both types) have two turn recruitments and can't be merged.

What you're saying is viable for manticores though.

>>173163440
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=895006874

Every unit is balanced for its cost except the Praetorians and the Archers, they are retardly OP, even for the 8000 and 6000 gold per unit cost, but you can just not recruit them and the AI will never have them

>>173164402
Rome 1 wasn't so terrible on that front, but M2 was a shitshow. Your faction has two different rosters: castle troops and city troops. Hope you like trucking your castle-recruited army back to your nearest castle to replensh after you took that city because there's no way to replenish your troops inside that newly taken city. Hope you like going back to the city after taking that castle because same deal.

>>173165297
you can fully replenish any force in about 2 turns in newer titles, especially warhammer in which most factions have some way of greatly boosting replenishment

>>173165384
The regular dragon ogres can't be merged either? I never really use them since I don't like playing Kholek.

>mfw playing skarsnik, about to take back the peaks, have one province
>Greenskins confederate option is at very high acceptance
>They have 14 territories
What even
What affects confederation chances? How is this even a thing?
I dont even think im going to use it now since it would instantly skyrocket my campaign from challenging upward battle to baby tier.

>>173165661
No I actually just fucked up the post- regular dragon ogres are 2 turn, can merge. Shaggoths are 2 turn, can't merge.

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
KARAK EIGHT PEAKS

>>173165632
If only there was some way of modifying the replenishment to your liking....

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>>>/wsg/1626483

Warhammer 2 Skaven vs Lizardmen battle preview.

>>173165743
What you could od is confederate, tear down all buildings save money-making ones, and sit back and watch as dorfs take over. Now you have inf cash and dorfs everywhere.

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>>173165832

I really liked King and Warlord but I feel that Skarsnik and Belegar were much more suited to a story campaign DLC rather than being added to the grand campaign. Though maybe that would have been boring without the Skaven.

>>173165743
I confederated greenskins about 3 times during my skarsnik campaign
they will reform after a rebellion spawns and takes a city, and give you free ai armies to distract the dorfs
if they got krumped really hard and all their armies are crippled I could see them really open to confed, particularly since the dawi are usually rank 1 or so

>>173165842
mods can fix it is a poor argument, and I also disagree with the notion that just slowing the replenishment is a proper fix, because it still allows you to replenish in regions that don't have the proper buildings which is something you couldn't do in older titles

>>173165743
Theyre rank 6, while im 36.
I mean, Im even watching their full stacks parade around.
For the sake of challenge im just going to continue business as usual.

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>>173165832
BTFO

I wish warhammer had seasons and wood elf faction was strongly tied to them desu

Fresh out of ideas for what to draw. Should I draw a warhams character?

>>173166686
You can disable replenishment altogether if you so wish, with new recruitment being the only way. That + global recruitment is pretty close to the old way with the recruitment times being what they are. This is why mods can fix it is actually a good argument, because you can approximate the way you want it, while still letting the majority have it in the convenient way. The other way around that might not have been so easy.

>>173166862
Same, comfy snow fights would be got tier

>>173167171
Fuck snow battles and fuck yellow unit markers on white ground.

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>>173165909

And while I am at it

>>>/wsg/1621333

Skink skirmisher having to outrun a half stack of Necropolis knights back to the Lizardmen army.

Who else didn't know Necropolis knights rode sneks, not bone-horses, until looking up a picture?

>>173162472
Are you at least hot like your mom?

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HAHA
GROBI FUCKING SHITS

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I'm going to be dominated by a best elf!

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>>173167271
anon pls

>>173167410
i'm also playing a dwarf campaign with grudgebearer, and i have to ask: what would you take between cannons and catapults? i just unlocked the cannons and deleted my grudgethrowers to get 4 of the new units

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>>173167582

Yes, yes you are.

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>>173167582
Indeed.

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>>173167592
>implying I have the money to buy the game after spending it all on an entirely new computer that can run it

>>173167171
yeah, Orions strenght and even presence being tied to seasons would be cool too, and not just Orion, all tree units and some of the forest defences and effects should be tied to it

it would add an interesting dynamic to your campaign, instead of just some constant steamroll

>>173167150
I suppose, but you'd need to tinker a lot with recruitment timers and availability, because it wasn't as simple as just double the time in older titles, some units were available for recruitment and replenishment all the time, while higher tier units took a lot longer to reappear in the recruitment pool, so its not just the need to move all the way back to your recruitment centre's that matters here, its the fact that even if you do move back, there is no guarantee that there are any knights available for recruitment, as they had a rather slow rate at which they were added to the pool

>>173167271
even mountain blade, made by a hungry turk and his wife, has UI that changes in the snow, its a pity CA can't figure that much out

>>173167807
>just met Orion for the first time
>already calls me a traitor and a liar
O-okay, Orion... you too

>>173167692
Cannons are anti-large and better at attacking walls/giants/trolls/giant spiders/heroes and such while grudgethrowers are good at killing infantry. I usually take 2 of each until I get the flame throwers and volley guns since I find them a lot more fun to play with.

>>173167878
You do realize you can just RP unit limits right? I've been doing it for a long time.

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>>173167410

>close

What did the game mean by this?

>>173168058
thanks

Anyone have any tip for legendary campaigns, specifically Empire? I keep getting ass blasted by stacks from Chaos whenever I (eventually) take Marienburg and Nordland seems to like declaring war on me as well.

>>173159410
dat gif

>>173168058
What about the bolt throwers?

>>173167410
What are your thunderers even for?

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>>173167878
>Winter comes
>Orion and tree based units die
>yfw

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>>173159498
Oh I'm waiting for you guys to show up at our gates, alright. Why don't you ask your goblin friends how that worked for them?
1.5 when REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>173168224
Bolt throwers are better at killing things than cannons but worse at attacking fortifications. Not really sure what they're for since you'll never really face giants/arachnids early in the game.

>>173167367
What kind of Crypt horrors are these?

what kind of monstrous units do high elves get?

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>>173168380

>>173168234
When's Old Friend coming?

>>173168213
You simply need to be very good at min-maxing everything , as well as having decent starting-RNG. You need experience to do it well.

>>173168224
Bolt throwers are there for being cheap and good at hitting. They do well against cav and especially air units, decently against other things.

>>173164428
I only played one total war game, what is this AAAAAAAAH meme?

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Man-things get prank-pranked. I was only PRETENDING to be under siege!

>>173162131
Grey Mountain dwarves are considered poorer and have younger holds with a lot less wealth. Sometimes there's a vague 'rustic' vibe, as much as dwarves can have.

Athel Loren was bigger?

The Cult of Sigmar does have widespread appeal across the Empire - it's just other faiths also have strong holds in certain areas. Most of the south is more Sigmarite, most of the north generally follows Ulric (though Taal, Myrmidia, and other gods are prominent in various places).

Savage orcs have a different culture and make as little use of metal weapons as possible, preferring the good ol' tech and warpaint that actually does help them resist damage.

Beastmen have traditional sex - there are beastwomen, though they are rarely mentioned. They also sometimes recruit mutants or turnskins, and rescue mutated babes left out in the woods to die (not that they really get a good life).

The last one is in 40k, not WFB. But Slaanesh does think they're pretty much the best souls, and the Prince of Pleasure has had cults infiltrating them for years.

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Anyone here played Warhammer Dark Omen?
That was legit fun game, spent ton of time with it as a kid.

It was pretty much like total war, just without map gameplay

>when you just run Nagash over with Steam Tank.
Top 5 anticlimactic anime deaths

What's with the constant "Another wave pours forth from the North" message that shows up after WoC were eliminated?

>>173168804
what races did dark omen had ?

>>173168851
until archaon show up and you kill him , they wont stop coming

>>173168762
how does this mod compare to warhammer? does it have more factions and more of the map?

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>>173168086
no offense, but have you actually played the earlier titles? its not quite as rigid as army limits there, you can build a stack of 20 Norman Knights over a very long period of time, but they will inevitably waste away in battles, due to the way the old replenishment and recruitment pool system worked

its not quite as simple as just army limits, which btw I do all the time, both in older and newer titles

>>173168234
but think about how much your playstyle would be tied to seasons? you would burst out in the spring fucking your enemies up with extremely OP Orion and the Wild Hunt, but as times goes he and many of your units would weaken, garrisons would decline, corruption would grow, economy falter, poopoopeepees spawn and you would retreat to the now vulnerable forest

I think it would be a lot better than what we have currently, I also wish Bret and Wood Elf lands weren't so small, AND I wish beastmen weren't such pushovers, they get wiped out instantly so they are not the constant threat they are meant to be, mods kinda make up for it, but not enough. Its ridiculous that you fight great many more wood elf rebels than you fight beastmen

In fact I just figured out how CA should have fixed that, you know how for Brettonia if public order goes down in Courone instead of bret rebels it spawns orcs? and calls it an incursion and not rebellion? this is what should happen in Athel Loren for the WELVES, rebellions should have been renamed to incursions, and spawned beastmen instead of other Welves

>>173168707
lurk moar

>>173168976
it have the factions that will be featured at the end of the trilogy here , BUT you can play also any imperial province you want

Victory conditions are broken in Warhammer

They really should add a Chaos Fortress right in the middle of the Chaos Wastes just so we don't get "WoC obliteraded!" messages every three turns if we set up a defense until Archaon arrives


Feels pretty stupid winning the Long Victory at turn 110 or some shit knowing the assrape squad is still arriving. It always leaves the turns that follow a bit pointless, and makes the ending a tad anti-climatic, since you pretty much have to choose when to end.

>>173168232
Killings things? They're great at flanking.

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>>173169023
I mean I do lurk a LOT but how am I going to learn what it is if nobody ever asks and everytime they ask anons tell them to lurk moar?

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I am fucking hype as fuck for the in-engine race trailers for Warhams II

AAAHHHHHHHH NAGGAROND

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>>173164428
> What they see

When are we gonna get siege battles in TWWH which are on the level or better than Shogun 2?

>>173169072
which version is it on moddb? beginning of the end times or just the normal one?

>>173169134
just Watch attila intro

>>173169002
Yes, I've played every game since R1 for several hundred hours. I just appreciate QOL improvements and don't require everything to be exactly the same in every game. If I wanted the old way the old games are still there after all.

cannons are meh in sieges unless you have so much patience.

they're good for taking out towers but you only ever need to take out 1 tower really.

Then the only way to fire on their army is to let 1 cannon use the gate / a wall to fire into their city one at a time until they're all out of ammo.

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>>173168762
Two glorious Skaven hosts and 1 pathetic man-thing rabble; this battle is simple mathematicals.

>>173168976
It has every faction from the game and quite a few things that weren't in 8th edition. Please be patient and do not bully, 1.5 must be soon

>>173168762
How does this mod deal with flying units? Just cavalry with their Z axis way up?

>>173168804
You command mercenary force of Morgan Bernhardt.
So you get mix of whole Empire units, like humans/dwarfs/kislev/altdorf etc.
Only his forces are playable in Single player.
The game actually had multiplayer and you could also use Undead and Greenskins.

Was really fun game

>>173169125
>3 kills
>1 kill
Did he goblins just fold before the Thunderers got into position or what happened?

>>173169223
and I did just do this and won a siege without putting any troops beyond their walls.

>>173168949
fuck i replied to myself instead of you
>>173169290

>>173169365
I didn't have any ranged units on the walls since they had like 12 siege towers.
My plan was, in case they broke through the gates, to have my ranged units flank them while some warriors kept them busy, but they never did.

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>>173163831
Thats not Grom

>Bigger than an Orc
>Raises unstoppable gobbo horde
>Causes stuntie and empire-man apocalypse
>Gets tired of stabbing stunties and humies
>Raises a fleet of gobbos that sailsall the way to Ulthuan
>Rape the shit out of Ulthuan with gobbos
>High Elves literally almost get destroyed and have their island sunken into the ocean by literal goblins
>Still alive somewhere

GG no re

>>173169175
I hope you're ironic, those sieges were shit

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>>173169232
Their infantry do fight hard-hard, but there are only so many. My warriors overwhelm their flanks in tide of fur and metal.

>>173169251
yea basically. The unit mass is adjusted so that shit like dragons topple a few guys when they fly over and bats just pass through the ranks. Flying around and knocking dudes down is not a great strategy, thanks to missile units

>>173169216
fair enough

>>173169485
Stupid goblins. Makes sense though.

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>>173169202
Thanks friend

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V A M P I R E - C H A N

>>173161382
Player count?

>>173169547

>>Gets tired of stabbing stunties and humies
>>Raises a fleet of gobbos that sailsall the way to Ulthuan

Objectively not what happened.

In fact, Grom had become a lazy turd who didn't even want to bother fighting and conquering at all, he just wanted to sit on his fat ass and watch chariot races all day.

His shaman had to scare him out of his wits by convincing him Gork&Mork was angry at him in order for him to get his ass conquering again.

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>>173169669
Their cavalry makes a devastating charge upon my spear-rats. This is acceptable, for I have many spears ready to die-die in the name of Skavendom.

>>173168492
High Elves themselves are kind of monstrous desu

whoever recommended Inept General's lore videos, thanks

assuming he wasn't shiling himself

>>173170037
Well at least he didnt get his shit wrecked and lose to literal skaven, like a certain gobbo

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>>173170115
t. goblin

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>>173164773
Wow, wowow. First time I've lost in an assault on time. Avignon lives for one more turn.

>wood elves have favorable disposition towards crooked moon for wars against the empire and bretonnia
every time
Going to turn around and burn that shit down when I get an age of peace

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>>173168804

>those graphics


fuuuuuuuuuuuuug

makes me want to find Fields of Glory somewhere,

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>>173170042
Only a few units can be spared to hold back my sally-force. They cannot hold back the unstoppable tide.

>>173170431
>1400 remaining
The fuck? Why did you lose? Did your whole army rout? I'm questioning the game, not your skills

>>173170251
He's not wrong, though.

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>>173170251
JUST

>>173170431
Yeah, I've lost a few castle assaults due to the timer before, usually because either I'm overcautious or assaulting a castle with multiple rings of walls.

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WE ARE BESIEGED

Also dwarves can't reinforce Snarsnik right?

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>>173170531
My precious Jezzails in melee combat? Head will roll for this!

>>173170682

Looks like the battle timer ran out on him, which means he should have accepted more casualties to win the battle faster.

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>>173169991

>you will never be a female vampires personal bloodslave

why even live

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>>173169201
beginning of the end times

only the beastmen are missing from the game i just noticed

but you have :
>Bretonnia
>kislev
>reikland ,wissenland ,averland ,stirland ,middenland ,talabecland ,ostland ,ostermark ,hochland and nordland
>dogs of war
>dwarfs
>chaos undivided
>warriors of khorne
>minnions of tzeentch
>children of nurgle
>cultist of slaanesh
>chaos dworfs
>skaven
>orcs and goblins but also night goblins
>ogres
>vampires counts and tomb Kangz
>DE , WE and HE
>lizardmen

>>173170682
If the attacker in a TW game fails to win in a certain time frame, the defender automatically wins the battle. This isn't as much of a problem in more recent TW games where battles tend to wrap up quickly, but Medieval 2 battles were a bit slower and siege battles especially can drag out if you're not careful.

>>173170751
They only way they'll reinforce is if they have a defensive or military alliance
Or a vassalship
So no, unless something has gone horribly wrong

>>173170751
Only if they're at least defensive allies. If the Dwarfs invited the gobbos in to the war but they're not allied, they won't reinforce one another.

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>>173170830
Their cavalry continues to be a nuisance, but they die steadily enough.

>>173170890
Beastmen and Daemons had to be rolled into Chaos to avoid unit and faction limits.

>>173170908
A dwarf faction once begged me to take them as vassals. I imagine they were only trying to buy breathing room before betraying me, so I did what Rorschach would have done. I regret it now, because even if it ended up badly it would've been worth it.

>>173170751
One could almost say that you're 'kemperbad' at this game hahaha

>>173169991
Any tiddy mod yet?

>>173170512
it's honestly a fucking good game

>>173171219
As the empire?
Dwarf allies are really good, vassals even moreso, because they'll take care of your provinces while you're gone
Bretonnia too
They also give you more reason to kill greenskins, so they can expand and take over the holds that you'd otherwise raze

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>>173171169
The pathetic man-things are run down. None will escape my greatness.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeGCSvWuGjk
This shit was seriously scary when i was a kid.
FUCKING SKELLINGTONS

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Green Knights vs. the White Dwarf, who would win?

Would any legendary ghostly founders of other factions beat both of them?

>>173163298
Blease I will need it after I will sober up in the morning.

>>173167980
I think WE are bugged or something and use the "I fucking hate you" responses instead of the "neutral" ones.

That or they're just that passionate.

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>>173171471
I suppose the might and superiority is too much for the man-things to stand any longer. They lose all will to continue resisting.

>>173171461
As Crooked Moon.

>>173171553

GRIMGOR

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>skaven

ishygddt

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>>173171553
White dwarf will mop the floor with the Green knight

the Green knight relies on being ethereal, Grom gives no shits about ghost shitters

>>173171553
Does Count Vlad count?

>>173171784
Pretty sure no one unironically likes reddit rats here, friend.

>>173171553
Hashut himself.

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Gotta admit, these guys look rad as fuck.

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I unironically think Rome II is a fun game after they patched the ever living shit out of it and then the community modded the ever living shit out of it.

>>173171784
>tumblr toads

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>>173171721
Alas! Their general-leader escapes, too nimble for my gunners to hit. Perhaps it is for best; surely he will spread the word of Horned Rat's power.

>>173171895
DARK OMEN

Mousillion was fucking hard map because of those cunts

>>173171875
I do, they fine

>>173171739
Oh
that's a lot less useful but I'm sure it's good for grudges
You can vassalize the mutinous gits which leads to some really weird diplomacy problems too

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>>173171875
they should call you skavenslayer!

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>>173170431
>>173170682

Like >>173170874 and >>173170895 said, I ran out of time. My battles have an hour time limit. I made the mistake of not watching the time, and letting my bombards fire all their ammo which took probably 45 minutes before I looked and realized I had to get a move on. Bad time management and only 1 way into the town square meant I ran out at the last second, essentially.

Not too big of a deal, only bummer is the troops they got back when the battle ended.

>>173170741
Just a mistake from drinking too much desu senpai! Won't happen again.

so why didn't the old ones create a cat race to take care of the rat race? or did skaven appear after the old ones were gone?

>>173171961
Stop enjoying things

>>173172056
HOLY SIGMAR
BLESS THIS RAVAGED BODY

>>173172093
After.
Or well, they were too primitive to worry about

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>>173172003
*inarticulate rodent laughter*

>>173169624
Shogun 2 sieges were amazing, you just have no taste

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>>173172070
Take two.

>>173168380

See >>173168580 . I know I heard about em on 1d4chan or just synopsis of Warham Tomb kings and assumed the were standard cavalry. But it makes sense as evidently Necropolis Knights are weak on the charge but have remarkably high staying power while Tomb Chariots are entirely your charge-withdrawal unit. So Necropolis knights mind almost be a kind of dragoon or mobile infantry more than a 'cavalry'.

>>173169002

I was hoping beastmen would be like the old rebels of pre EmpireTW. A constant nuisance that emerges from the forests throughout the campaign

>>173171961
What mods would you recommend for it?

>>173171861
>Longbeard

After a Dwarf surpasses 200 years, they gain the title of Great Beards

Grombrindal is much older than a Great Beard, the White Dwarf after all, but he's still technically that

>>173171549
is that the dark pyramid of naggash at the end ?

>>173172975
Ye that's Nagash, he's the main enemy of the game.

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>>173172191
>taal will never bless your aim
>you will never fug kerillian with your lumberdick
>you will never get drunk with bardin
>sienna will never start your barbecue for you
>holy shitman will never torture your enemies for you
why even live

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>>173172838
Divide et Impera is fantastic. However, grab one of the faster battle sub mods for it. The base DEI battles crawl so bad it becomes exploitative for the player.

>>173172056
Please great Sigmar let Vermintide be revived and get new characters soon

>>173172056
What gaym is that, Vermintide?

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>>173173319
yes

>>173171987
>Tumblr toads
>not facebook frogs
You tried

>>173164318

The easy solution is to just boost the unit sizes of trashy skaven or orc or VC units. Instead of 160, make em 200, or 240.

>>173173539
>96
Total war naval license when

>>173173546

Frogposters.

>>173173539
Is Mordheim any good? Had a pretty mixed reception last i checked.

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>>173173539

> The reason Total Warhammer 2 can't have naval battles
> 96 players

>>173173720
Dumb.

>>173173843
It's in early access, I wouldn't pay money for it either.

>>173173731
You'd be better off sticking to a game like Darkest Dungeon for a grimdark, turn-based squad RPG. Maybe wait until later in Mordheim's lifecycle for all the factions to be established and all the bugs to be ironed out.

>>173173843
It's still in beta, you can't expect people to jump on a game like that while it's still rough and buggy.

>>173172734
>I was hoping beastmen would be like the old rebels of pre EmpireTW. A constant nuisance that emerges from the forests throughout the campaign
thats why I am thinking that rebellions in wood elf lands should have spawned beastmen instead of elves, like rebelions in courone spawn orcs instead of brettonians

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>>173172275
naice

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Anyone wanna santa me some DLC?
I would like to play them before i fuck off to work without PC for 3 months :^(

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>>173174063
Only if you're a cute girl or a femboy

>>173173954
>>173173907
I could expect them not to release shit in early access, that just spoils the image a bit

>>173173969
>nobody's murdering anyone

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>Game 2 advisor has a pet crab in his portrait
>The crab turns into a Slaanesh Keeper of Secrets around turn 100 and leads a Chaos invasion
Your face

>>173174141
>Only if you're a cute girl or a femboy
nope to both :^(

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>>173172678
Whew. Still almost ran out of time. With that we can push on to Marseille, and phase one of our expansion will be done.

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>>173174364
That looks like a Slaaneshi Ghorgon, not a keeper of secrets

When does the chaos invasion usually happen?

It just happened on turn 59 of my empire campaign and I'm pretty sure it happened way later on my other campaigns.

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Goblins.

>>173174747
I'm pretty sure it has to do with how well you're doing. As in, how many cities the player has and how many factions exist still alive.

>>173174747
When you reach Imperium level 4 OR turn 80 the initial invasion happens

When you reach Imperium level 6 OR turn 130 Archaon and Friends come.

So the better you do the sooner the invasion comes. It's especially noticeable if you're playing Dwarfs, and it tends to fuck the Empire's shit beyond recognition

>>173174859
Yeah, it's pretty dependent on how well you're doing. I've seen it happen as early as turn 30 when I confederated with the Dwarfs after they confederated Karak Azul. Very unusual set of circumstances.

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Just read end times and now I dislike Archaon.

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>>173175008

>>173174627
The older KoS models had bull heads to represent the sexual vitality of Slaanesh and his minions.

>>173175008
Did you read it to see how infamously shitty it was for yourself? Because I've never been personally tempted to read it.

>>173175008
>Archaon

I think you meant Mannlet

>>173174807
These quotes speak to me on a spiritual level

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>>173174807
>whaddya mean ya don't eat us when ya catch us

>>173171574

> year of our lord two thousand and seventeen
>niggers don't know how to reverse image search

>>173175008
He's literally the worst mary sue. Valten would've killed him, Karl Franz would've killed him, Nagash would've killed him, Grimgor would've killed him, Sigmar DEFINITELY would've killed him- but NOPE! He can just conjure up some bullshit everchosen, demonic plot armor and survive because reasons. >"Lol, someone's scrying on me? Lol I can just turn their body into a demonic gateway."
>"Lol Grimgor and Valten are about to bash my head in? Heh, this Verminlord and the super powerful demon in my sword saved me, tough luck kid."
>"Grrr papa sigmar won't listen to me, he must not exist." *proceeds to literally fight Sigmar in person*

>>173174807
>Gitsniker
Truly a noble namesake for such a fearsome weapon

>>173174971
oh ok cool.

It's weird though cos in my dwarf campaign I didn't notice the first chaos invasion but then on turn 100 I got the Archaon invasion and it boosted my diplomatic relations with everyone by loads.

Does that only happen in the later invasion?

>>173174807
Oh, just make their heads explode, THAT'S what I was doing wrong.

>>173174364

I understand why and probably would do the same, but I will never forgib Slaaneshi creatures for not having massive swinging/barbed torture cocks

>>173175454
Anon, AoS hate thread is on tg

>>173174214
They're putting it out there in a 'hey play this while we fix it and act as our playtesters' way. You know, like half of games not made by huge studios are.

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>>173175206
>"teleport behind gelt"
>nothing personnal
>"backstab him"
>"end the world"

>>173175454
Remember: the worst chaosfags are those at GW

>>173175146
It wasn't as bad as people say it was honestly, but fuck Archaon.

>>173175663
Yeah, all human and dwarf factions get the "Shield of Civilization" buff, a huge bonus to affinity

Be warned, most factions get aggressive after Chaos is gone and the buff stops being in effect, so be sure to shower the factions you allied with in gold from invasion turn one.
You can avoid the backstabbing bonança if you boost your relationships so much other factions start to like each other because of how much they like you

>>173175396
I drink too much to perform such actions.

>>173176005
Yeah, and they tend to leave a sour taste in everyone's mouths because of how shitty it looks at first glance. It's the same concept as "you really don't want to learn how a sausage is made".

Very few games that go on early access have noticeable success, especially when Steam Greenlight devolved into Asset Flip Bazaar. If nothing else Man'O'War seems to be prepared to be the exception, because the core gameplay is really good.

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>>173176036
>"i may have overreacted a bit"

Is it me of snow maps are very bright, jaggy like no AA and looks hella ugly.

Why is that.

Here on this official video it looks neato

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EIkvHD7MU8

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>>173162808
>>173162885
>>173163265
>>173168802

This is 8th Edition lore on Savage Orcs. I prefer the 7th Edition lore where Savage Orcs are the result of an over-exposure to extreme heat, which would gradually damage the already small brain of an Orc until its intellect becomes primitive even by the standards of other Greenskins.

Hence why they are in the Badlands.

>Sunburnt brains

>>173173652
>>173173843
>>173173907
>>173173954
>>173176005
>>173176393

>bought man o war today
>great variety of ships
>melee combat is total ass

not sure if i want refund are not

>>173161382
>The playerbase of all history titles combined makes maybe half of the Fantasy playerbase

>>173174364

>no massive bull cock

0/10 from me senpai

>>173176894
>all history titles combined
>3 games

>long build up to the invasion of Athel Loren to remove knife ears
>assemble 4 armies required for the probably 2:1 losses I'll take assaulting Vaul's anvil
>no matter my positioning any reinforcing armies comes from behind the Welves, meaning they get turbofucked by the superior welf units before I can link up

jesus fuck CA what is your problem

it's like they want us to autores

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Why are naval battles in Shogun 2 vanilla only fun with cannon ships?