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RINGED CITY IS OUT, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE SPOILED, STAY AWAY WHILE YOU PLAY IT BY YOURSELF

>Got hit by the shrink ray:
>>172911863

>Ringed City items checklist (if you find an error, please reply and correct):
https://pastebin.com/724E2jEB

>1.11 patch:
http://store.steampowered.com/news/externalpost/steam_community_announcements/75839063734797566

>1.12 patch:
http://store.steampowered.com/news/externalpost/steam_community_announcements/75839596812166515

>Ringed City DLC stuff
http://pastebin.com/4mUsZWmv

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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>making Eygon cosplay
>realize how overleveled this faggot really is
Nice "build" you have there
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>Haha, silly anon, Midir is 2ez
>If you're SL127 and do 1k damage every time you hit him :^)

Fuck Midir.
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>>172925826
>not having hit every softcap in every stat

only true way to have fun is when you can switch up your build on a whim
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>>172925894
this.
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>solo gael after a few attempts
>try to coop him
>get smashed every time

holy shit this nigga is on another level when he has 3x health scaling
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>>172925894
Where my SL 250 niggas at?
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>>172925876
Midir IS easy when you stop panic rolling like a retard and learn to control his moves.
People have killed him at SL1 already.
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>tfw SL239 NG+8 with no one to summon but still getting invaded

Maybe I am retarded.
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>>172925931
>beat him in <5 tries ng++
>co-op ng+x with like 80% host survival rate
>some guy from ng+5 wants help
>get absolutely buttblasted
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I've fully exhausted the Souls series, and I'm dying for more content already. Is the King's Field series actually worth playing? Is it unbearably outdated? Does it actually feels like a Souls precursor or only very loosely?

I can't say the screenshots are very encouraging, but I'm looking through the pastebin, and I'm compelled (and a little desperate).
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>>172925931
This, Midir and Gael are both garbage for coop. It sucks because I like both fights and want to replay them, but fuck Midir's coop health.
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>>172925931
I love it that shitters get punished so hard for summoning in this DLC.
No more 3 summon cheese
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the most honorable, most glorious, and most fearsome waifu
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sellsword twinblades are pretty cool desu
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>>172926168
Probably highest DPS output PvE weapon on things that you can stand there hitting. Pretty awful against anything with a shield or which can be staggered by larger weapons though.
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What's a good secondary weapon to complement a Halberd type?
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>>172925980
P A R T A K E
A
R
T
A
K
E
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>>172926239
Straight Sword or Greatsword
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>>172926168
Give me the build please, I need new shit after finding out half of my crap is garbage after all of these updates.
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>>172926047
>Is the King's Field series actually worth playing?
No.

Just consider making a break from vidya for at least a year if you are burnt out. Does wonders.
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>>172925758
We need more Zullie webms with her wearing her dress.
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>>172926239
Partaking, with CMW on your Splitleaf.
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>>172926286
15str/ 40 dex
wolf sword on back + pontiff ring (carthus beacon optional, not very practical honestly)
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Mimic for dummies:

-Don't lock on, you dumb babby.
-When he stands on his hind legs, he will breathe beneath him. This extends further behind than in front of him, so you should run away in front of him most of the time. If you're at his legs then just run towards the tail.
>His arm swipes are always paired wit another swipe.
>Instinctively roll whenever he turns around, to avoid tail swipe.
>When he does the flyover with his breath, it will always breathe to your right. If you don't have time to run left, you can actually roll through the flame unscathed, similar to chariot spike from DaS 2.
-The mad flailing bullshit can generally be countered by spam-rolling towards him for the duration. He will do this a lot as his health gets low.
-If you can't dodge the dark attacks at phase 2, you're hopeless. Learn to manage stamina.
-He has a forward lunge move which is probably his biggest threat, because it's poorly telegraphed. He will do a small wind up that lasts only a second.
-His beam attacks are easily recognized, so just get to his hind legs whenever he stsrts and you're completely safe to chip away at him while he goes full retard.
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>>172926104
that's some cute underwear she's got on

why would the artist make that if its entirely invisible
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>>172925876
I fought him at sl85 with a heavy cathedral GS. I never said he's easy, be kicked my ass. Died about 16 times to him. But he's far from impossible
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Honestly the game is really not fun with lock on off
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>>172926385
He is called Midir
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>>172926289
No, you don't understand, I desperately want to keep playing these games. I fucking love them to death and every moment playing them, I wish they didn't have to end, but I can't just replay the same things over and over again or deal with this shitty PVP. I just need another Souls-like game to play as soon as possible. All other vidya just seems bland in comparison now. And I don't have a PS4, so no BB or Nioh for me.
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>>172925876
Just beat him, SL 89, straight sword, ~250 damage a swing. Everything he does is telegraphed, man. Over half his attacks are avoided just by zoning yourself, and the rest are simple rolls. The only challenge is figuring out the solution to each od his moves, then having to remain focused for a long time.
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>>172926412
Because you can wear her underwear, Anon.
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>>172925758
FUCKING MIDIR IS MORE FUN THAN THESE PIECES OF SHIT

IM FUCKING DONE
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>>172926104
>daughter of the Duke
>descendant of gods
>trusted friend to Midir
>the honour of the gods
>the glory of fire
>the fear of the dark.
>all AT ONCE
How can anybody else even compete ?
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>>172925995
>overleveled
>summoning
>pointless runs above ng+7
truly the most casual
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Post fashion please
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>>172925931
>Got him to 30% on my first encounter.
>Ran out of estus.
>Got really focused.
>Got him down to around 10% before taking that fatal hit.

God fucking damn. As if the lightning show wasn't climactic enough, I turned it into an even bigger showdown. Ain't even mad.
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what are the best light armor sets besides the drang set?

what are the best dex weapons besides the chaos blade? even at 60 dex str weapons out damage me in pve by huge margins
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>>172926485
You've just gone too long with lock as a crutch. Game is great fun unlocked once you've comfy with moving the camera. Lets you do so much more with weapon movesets.
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>>172926515
hyper light drifter was a pretty nice deversion for me a couple months ago. every other game i can think of that has been lauded as "souls-like" has been shit especially nioh
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>doing a run following a guide to finish all the npc quests
>end up killing the giant before I reach patches in onion armor
>"say hello to the friendly giant!"
>"wait where's the giant"
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>>172926589
>anywhere under 400 being overlevelled on NG+7

still on NG midir, kid?
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>>172926102
>not doing a 3 summons challenge run
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>>172926571
>stabs a mad fuck with a spear
>locks herself in her room with it instead of tossing it into a pit or some shit
R34 of her getting fingerbanged by the Mad King when
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>avelyn hitting for 300+ counter damage on people whiffing attacks
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>>172926560
acthyually anonymous, Midir is an enlarged sulyvahn's beast who grew a pair of wings, learned how to harness flame and dark and took kickboxing lessons time to time to practice his combos

thank you for your attention, Gwyn bless
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>>172926432
>>172926518
Now beat him with a dex build.
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>>172926652
>not homeward boning out once you run out of estus

shiggy
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>>172926507
Yeah I'm on phone and autocorrect is a cunt.
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>>172926678
maybe mechanically, but you can't tell me it's visually appealing when you have to lock at the ground or in some convoluted direction because sorceries and sword swings are tied to camera direction.
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>>172926261
PROVIDE
RTHEE
OHSUCC
VEU
IEC
DC
E
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>>172926606
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>>172926707
>still on NG midir
just finished him ng+ at level 70
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>>172926793
phoneposters are subhuman garbage
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>>172926851
>big dumb flashlight-looking club

looked better when you were rocking an AGS
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>>172926606
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>>172926784
I did it on a dumb quality build that uses Ringed Knight SS yet I have 10 more DEX than STR.

So....

I even summoned help who died less than halfway into the fight, so his hp bar was extended on the run I killed him.
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>>172926928
Leave his used q-tip alone!
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>>172926901
easy on there autismo, having a decent phone doesnt make you a subhuman, if you'd work 1 day in your life even you might be able to get one
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>>172926518
>beating anything with a straight sword
>ever an accomplishment worth sharing
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>>172926960
I said dex. Quality is perfectly fine.
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>>172926901
Yeah well unlike some of you NEETS I got a job, so I can't be at home all day/night wasting my time on forums instead of actually playing vidyums.
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do all weapons have the same attack window, with none having longer lingering damage?

by that I mean say someone keeps spamming running attacks at you, using a katana your one handed R2 is a thrust which you can time to counter them. Range is average and the attack itself has to be timed pretty well to hit them. is there a spear or something that has a long attack window? I don't know what the right term is for that.
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>>172927031
>tfw night shift so I can only play during the least active hours
I wish I wasn't a wagecuck, although having money is nice.
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>>172927017
His "hurt me" windows of opportunity are large enough to accommodate any weapon. What's your point?
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>>172927031
>your work station doesnt have a computer
youre only digging the hole deeper, subhuman
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>>172926606
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>>172927067
I share this feel.
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>all these people think SL matters for Upscaled Oceiros
It doesn't. You're going to get one or two shot if you get hit regardless of what level you are, and his resistances and HP are so high that your damage stats barely matter.
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>>172927107
My phone is discreet. My work PC isn't.
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>>172925876
You suck. Every attack has at least a 3 second telegraph
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>want to get back and do dlc's
>be me at ng+
>one reroll left
>can't choose a weapon, everything i have is shit
What do i do? Im in (shitty) dex build now with washing pole\pontif scythe, was thinking about going pontif knight sword but maybe something else? Not heavy weapons (im too retarded to use such slow waepons, maybe hammers are ok) or longswords (im tired of them).
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>>172926669
>what are the best dex weapons
Assuming actual dex:
Sellsword Twinblades
Frayed Blade
Crow Quills

Then for Dex/Caster mix
Brigand Twindaggers
Friede's Scythe
Aquamarine Dagger
Demon's Scar

If you're choosing both the weapon type and the build, these are the only options you'd bother to make a Dex build for. There are weapons like Murakumo which are best as Sharp, but there's no point using the Murakumo unless you're already committed to a Dex build, as Heavy Exile is objectively better.
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>>172927250
Except his stupid lunge.
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>>172927324
You mean the one where he kneels back for 4 seconds?
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>>172926814
Only vertically, and most of the time you don't have to change elevation. Turning the camera around for a side on view as you slam some big hit into something is visually appealing as fuck.
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>>172927250
Nah fuck Midir.
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nut seed
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>>172926515
No, anon, you are the one who doesn't understand. I felt the same way you did, but after abandoning the series for almost a year, and having come back to it just a couple of days ago, I'm getting almost the same levels of enjoyment as when I was first starting out.
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>>172926385
>Don't lock on, you dumb babby.
You can lock on, just don't stand under him. If you stay in front of him to bait and punish his attacks, you'll only break lock if he does a flying move.

>He has a forward lunge move which is probably his biggest threat, because it's poorly telegraphed
No, it's not. When he's not doing anything, that means he's probably winding one up. Just have a trigger hair on roll, and react-dodge when you see water splash around his legs. Technically if you're not facing him head-on you can see him rear back slightly, but that only matters if you're a summoned phantom who he isn't directly facing.

>>172926560
The one on the bridge you can bait into a stationary position by running back to the beginning, then wail on him as he vanishes.

The ones in the water cooler can be plunge attacked for a free critical, supposedly. I've had trouble getting them into the riposte state sometimes, I think you have to directly hit the head.

>>172926669
Mirrah is pretty good.

Frayed Blade has A scaling Dex, Crow Talons are also pretty good.
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>>172926784
>if you don't do it my way, it doesn't count
Sure, fag. When I get to him again, I'll respec just for you
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>wait a minute that egg

I think it looks a lot like a transposing kiln in the Filianore concept art. What does it mean?
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lmao they dont have clue
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Miyazaki leaving the lore up to the players is pretty genius actually
Even bugs and shitty design can be deciphered as lore
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>>172927652
reused assets, the game
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with everyone talking about no honour in invasions. The only rule I go by is if the host is alone and takes damage before me, but never uses estus I don't use estus either. If the host ever takes a sippy, or if they have summoned help, or if they have a seed active I heal away.
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>>172927652
>Transposing kiln is made out of loads of crystal lizards stuck together with space and stars in the middle.
Neat.
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>>172927652
Here's what it means
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What are the best buffs in the game?
I've been using blessed weapon for my twinblades but I get the feeling I could be doing better.
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>>172927740

The only rule i follow is that i don't use estus if the other guy doesn't use. Simple.
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>>172927769
ARE YOU SAYING IT'S A BERSERK REFERENCE?!
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>>172927710
I think a lot of the lore is cut and dry, at least with strong implications. But since a lot of stuff is vague and not 100% confirmed austists can make links and a lot of stupid shit can be feasible.
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When was this 8.3GB update?
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>>172927740
thats nice and all but he still has more hp than you. i usually weigh whether or not ill win or if i can kill him when he tries to heal if i heal first and decide to be nice or not
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>>172925894
>>172925909
>>172925968
/myguys/
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>>172927769
Is that Jo-Jo?
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>>172926385
don't forget, equip dragoncrest shield, if you're too late to dodge fire attacks, just block em for minor chip damage
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>>172927769
NO WAY
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Guys, the Millwood axe is the best axe, but I can't get over it having just a little stub on one side of the head.

Why can't it be as aesthetic as the Dragonslayer's axe?
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>>172927709
i'm gonna do dis now.
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Is collage anon still making the collage?
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>>172927376
No, he goes slightly prone for one second, then jumps forward.
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>>172927805
>>172927846
>>172927916
Wait, zoom out and enhance it...
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>>172928051
zoom out even further and it turns out they were on Noah's ark all along!
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>>172925968
176 reporting in.
fuck the manlets.
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>>172927769
>>172928051
>Angel's Egg follows the life of an unnamed young girl living alone in an abandoned city. She cares for a large egg which she hides under her dress, protecting it while scavenging the decrepit Neo-Gothic/Art Nouveau cityscape for water and food.

>As the girl drifts off to sleep, she speaks to the creature inside her egg of their future together. Outside, the heavy rain consumes the city and floods the streets. While the girl is turned away from the egg in her sleep, the boy takes it and raises his cross-shaped weapon high to smash it. Awaking the next day, the girl discovers the broken shell of her egg and shrieks out, utterly heartbroken.
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>>172927478
Yeah just lure one in with a bow and plunge attack from ladder.
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>>172925968
275 reporting in
still getting frequent action in arena and at pontiff.
It;s a ton of fun when you fight a guy with one build, then summon him again and you both have entirely different builds.
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>>172927948

Best axe for STR, Dragonslayer is better for FTH
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>>172928048
>i think you mean ~4 seconds. you just need to stop being shit at reading his movements
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>>172925876
I dont mind fights like Midirs, but its so fucking annoying when From decides its a good idea to just test your patients way beyond the reasonable time expected for a game, even by dark souls standards.
Like for fucks sake its so annoying going into fight knowing that best case scenario you're gonna be hacking away for 15 minutes.
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Okay, so am i actually literally retarded and missing something here or is the only way to get off the place where you encounter Silver Knight Ledo to either use a homeward bone or kill yourself?
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>>172928238
I don't know what boss you're fighting, but the Midir I fought rears back for one second, preceded by the same idle phase he has before literally every other attack, so the idle phase you're no doubt counting doesn't matter. It's his fastest and most subtle move.
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>>172928316
there are a bunch of platforms for you to jump on right under you dummy
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Gimme some gud fashun for the doors
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>>172928316
there are a series of ledges 2 feet ahead of where you're facing
drop down and ring ahead
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>>172928316
Look over that ledge
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Curious to see how many attempts you guys took to beat the DLC bosses if you remember. I think I did pretty fuckin well and want to brag about it

Demon prince: 2nd attempt
Spears: 18th attempt
Midir: 6th attempt
Gael: 3rd attempt

What about you guys?
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So now that greatlance is actually good, I want to do a Tower Knight build with Greatlance and Greatshield of Glory.

Any idea what that would look like?
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is there a ring that reduces lockon distance, or is the dark area in the grand archives with the two crystal lizards a special places that reduces it? Just invaded some dude and I could not lockon to him unless he was in hitting range.
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>>172928406
Demon Princes: 3rd attempt
Spears: First attempt
Midir: Lost track somewhere in the 10s-20s
Gael: 6th attempt
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>>172928439
it's the area.
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>>172928363
it's not, you're just making excuses for not being able to read it. his lunge is one of, if not his most predictable ability
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>>172928406
Demon&Gank; 3 attempts
Spears; 5 attempts(found an actual retard)
Midir; ~15 attempts
Gael; 10 attempts
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>>172928367
>>172928392
>>172928405

Wow, i don't know how the fuck i didn't see that. I'm usually not one to miss something like that
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>>172928363
he literally stands completely motionless for 3 seconds + before dashing
it caught me the first time and never again
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>>172928406
>2bat
2nd attempt
>Spears
1st try because the guy who got summoned was using a meme build
>Midir
WORKING ON IT FUCK
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>>172928406
>Demon prince.
Didn't even bother to learn this because I hate duo bosses. 2nd attempt with 2 players.

>Spears
2nd attempt with 2 players. Same reason. I wish there were no painting mobs.

>Gael.
Solo'd on first try.

>Mimic
Solo'd but I lost count. Probably 20 tries or so.
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>>172928406
Demon Prince: 3
Spears: 1
Midir: 20+
Gael: 1
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>>172928406
10 2 16 14
B-but I was underleveled, it doesn't count for that much
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>>172928406
>lol2bats: 2nd try
>spears: oneshot
>midir: lost count
>gael: 10th try
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>>172928406
somebody explain to me why people count how many times they die to a boss
it never even occurs to me that the first time wont be the last, and when it isnt its some easily corrected mistake that feels like 'next time ive got this, ez'
how do you get to the point where you start thinking 'gee im shit this is gonna take a long time, better start counting'
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>>172926515
go play nier
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>there is a soul of Rosaria in the concepts
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>>172928467
huh are there any other areas like that?
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>>172928406
Was level 82 when i entered the DLC

>Demon Prince:
4th attempt (first attempt i made it to phase 2 with 2 flasks left and got shit on, thought i'd be there for a few hours, but surprisingly it wasn't too bad)
Also, thanks Monster Hunter for teaching me to sometimes look for the safe spot right underneath the enemy.

>Halflight
5th attempt or so, i usually play offline though the first time i play through a souls game as to not get "spoiled" by blood stains and messages on the ground, which i know i'm too weak to not read sometimes. But some messages near walls or hidden paths etc. don't even have to be read to spoil it for you. Same with a bunch of blood stains which spoil an upcoming ambush that anyone who takes a proper look should see coming, and if not they deserve to get pooped on.

>Gael
6th attempt
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>>172928031
good farming spot
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>>172928406
Demon Prince: 3 attempts, only because I already knew all its moves from the preview videos.

Spears: around 4-5 attempts, because I got an AFK guy who I just backstabbed to death.

Midir: Probably around 20 or so attempts, took me something like an hour and a half to learn his entire moveset and how to dodge it all reliably.

Gael: Around the same, close to 2 hours, only got to phase 3 around 4 times.
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>>172926385
>-Don't lock on, you dumb babby.
>this fucking meme has been going for over seven years

Even in Bloodborne with it's large monsters this is fucking dumb.
You losers need to learn how to dodge and time your blocks if you have a shield.

The i-frames from dodges are total, your character ceases to exist during those frames, nothing can touch them.

I see this all the time now with Midir and things from Bloodborne like Bloodletting Beast, retards running around in circles awkwardly rolling about in all directions, hacking at legs and shit, taking ten minutes to finish the fight only to be stomped by something outside the camera.

Just stay in it's face and get staggers + counter damage. If the thing has an aoe just dodge twice/three times out the fucking way.


Holy shit the fucking clean fights and successes achievable when dropping that no-lock-on shit is amazing. I bet fucking Peeve or some other e-celeb with an anime laugh made that shit up and it stuck forever.
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bats 7 attempts
spear 1 attempt (summons was terrible)
midir 5 attempts
gael 6 attempts

this was on NG with a sl120 character though. midir especially would've raped me on NG+
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>>172928730
Nigga the cryptic bloodstains and messages are the whole point of the series' intended atmosphere. I cringe at people like you who think they're spoilers or some shit.
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>>172928618
>it never even occurs to me that the first time wont be the last
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>Invaded in Dreg Heap
>Its a DUGS, im using FUGS
>Keeps trying to L1 into me for his lmao ezfrag combo
>Every time he hits me with that retarded charge he gets hit for 4/5th og his health by 2H FUGS
>Doesnt learn anything and keeps trying
Oh my god i love DUGS now
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>>172928683
>he didn't finish leonhardt's questline
>not having all miracles

come on son
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>>172928683
So? There is a soul of Rosaria in the game too.
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>>172928826
"try jumping"

i love it
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75MUhvBLu8Q
>Gael teleports via summon sign
holy shit
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>>172928406
>prince
Four attempts, two on each form. Ended on the laser once I figured out how much easier it is.

>spears
First attempt, because I got Halflight. Was extremely hype when I noticed it was basically an Old Monk homage, but then extremely disappointed when I just kind of breezed through it. I assumed Halflight was just a really shitty player.

>midir
Something like fifteen. I just kept running out of resources because I was treating it like any other boss fight. Final attempt involved me playing ultra cautious. Took half of eternity but I finished with six sips to spare.

>gael
Five or six attempts, I forget. Got him down to ~25% in my first fight, everything after that was learning how the cape moves and how to act around the lightning.
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>>172928797
>He can't into freecam.
>Thinks he's cooler or superior.

You're a cute little babby. Do you need a diaper change? Did babby go peepee in diepy? :)
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>>172928862
>>172928840
Oh. Well then
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>>172926606
My new weaponfu
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>>172928986
>caestus

All I wanted was a parry tool that doesn't look like ass.
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>>172928830
Most DUGSfags only press L1 L1 L1, while the real power is in the mixups and baits. The L1 combo is easily punishable by a weapon with perserverance or similar hyper armor.
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>>172928406
>Prince
Second or third with Gael

>Spears
Second, solo

>Midir
Dozenth or more, only ever happened thanks to an anon using Mercury

>Gael
Same as Midir, but with like three phantoms and no Mercury
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>>172928986
>>172926606

>>172929034
its ugly.. but we work with what we got.
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>>172926606
Post fashion, you say?
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>>172928406
Hexer:
Demon prince: until I figured out he can get gnaw'd
Midir: until I figured out he can be mercury'd
Didn't bother with rest, switched to str char
STR:
Demon prince - first attempt
Midir - 8 attempts
Spears - first attempt
Gael - 3 attempts
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Someone help
I want to do a tower knight build, but I cannot into fashion. I need an armour combo that looks somewhat like this.
Greatshield of Glory and Greatlance are obvious choices.
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>>172928406
Demons: 15 tries
Spears: 5 tries
Gael: 112 tries
Midir: 126 tries
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>>172928901
Halflight is the NPC you nigger, you fought against AI
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>>172929034
there are parrying daggers arent there? you dont like those either?
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>>172928874

That was a mildly interesting link Anon. Thanks for sharing.
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>>172928406
Demons: 3
Midir: 10
Spears: 5 attempts until I got a guy with 12 VIG
Gael: 4
Earthern Peak angels: UINT_MAX
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>>172929098
Lorians chestpiece kinda looks like that with the shoulders
Iron Dragonslayer legs?
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>>172929034
most parry weapons look like shit.
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>Cosplaying as Lorian does nothing in Demon Prince fight
I guess even Tanimura-san couldn't save this boring piece of shit dlc
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>>172928406
Demon Prince: 3rd attempt
Spears: 1st attempt
Midir: between 5 and 10
Gael: 5th
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>>172925758
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJfHf1XZTQM
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>>172929098
Gundyr's chest, iron draonslayer helm.
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>>172928406
Done on NG+ with SL120

Demon Prince: 1st
Spear: 2nd
Midir: 10th or so
Gael: 2nd

Midir took me some tries to understand which moves are to be punished and which to be avoided.
Gael wasn't really hard. Champion Gundyr was more difficult.
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>>172928797
The fuck are you sperging on about? There's tons of PvE content in this series that becomes trivialized once you realize you can just turn off lock-on and dead aim everything.

Everyone threw a fit at Dark Souls 2 mobs, buy they're easy as fuck if you just don't lock on and get your ass surrounded because of it.

Dead aiming allows you to dodge attacks purely by running the fuck around them instead of taking risky rolls for absolutely no other reason than either being stupid or showing off to yourself.

Locking on is almost like parrying. You're taking a risk of fucking your timing up when it's not even necessary. Almost every enemy is designed with lock on in mind. That's why dead aiming is such an effective playstyle.
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>>172929121
Yes. That's my point. That's literally what I said.
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So, in the end, what was the deal with the Painter ? We basically don't know shit about her, other than the fact that she'll paint a cold, dark world using the blood of the Dark Soul.
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>>172928406
Demon - 2nd attempt
Spears - 1st attempt
Midir - 19 attempts
Gael - 6 attempts
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>>172928406
>twin bats
first try ng++

>spears
first try, the guy just lay down and i oneshot him

>gael
4 tries ng++

>midir
gave up on ng++ after maybe 20 tries, beat him first try ng (sl75)
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>>172928406

Demon Prince: 1st attempt
Spears: 1st attempt
Midir: 3rd attempt
Gael: 2nd attempt
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>>172929287
It's a ham fisted metaphor for Memegooki setting fire to the series and doing something else with his life.
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>>172928862

When will normies realize that Gwynevere was in the game all along?
DkS3 was the last chance to go full fanservice and, to be quite honest, Miyazaki did just that. He brought Gwyndolin back, unnecessarily. He brought the fucking Firstborn to the table, unnecessarily. He delivered you Pygmies. What on god's green earth makes you believe he would not bring Gwynevere back? Her soul is found exactly where Gwynevere (both real and illusion) used to be, too.
>But she vanished
Yeah and she was obviously very well hidden away in the Cathedral.
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>started DLC 2 with 40 int 40 faith Onyx blade build.
>get destroyed by bosses because no damage
>had to clear all bosses and most of mobs with a heavy UGS at 21 str and 12 dex while wearing strength ring to boost my shitty dps...

I don't even know how I managed to kill Gael on the 15th attempt. I hurted him for like 240 damage with my UGS on fucking regular ng...
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>>172929287
She painted bloodborne ;^)
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>>172929287
Just some half baked philosophical piece. "Doode Dark Solz was Miyazaki-san's painting, did u rike it? Wat if we're in a painting, lol"
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I just used CE to change character voice, can I get invalid data for this?
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>grab something with perseverance
done you now counter door memers
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>>172929287
>those eyes
Is she related to the Primordial Serpents ?
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>>172929287

>>172929417

This. It's the obvious choice for fanfic.
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>>172929373
Except she looks nothing like Gwynevere and her powers have nothing to do with Gwynevere's powers
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>>172929373
Nice headcanon
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>>172929287
Supposedly she has no name, if you pick that option for the name of her Painted World.

Her eyes are suspiciously similar to those of a primordial serpent.

We "might" get more from The Fire Fades edition, who knows. I don't expect it.
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>>172929474
Why the fuck would she paints bloodborne ?
>a dark, cold and gentle place for someone to live here
Yeah I really wonder who she is referring to.
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How do you beat Gael's GS as a katanerd

They seem to poise through any of my punish attempts on regular swings and the WA comes out pretty fucking fast
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>>172929417
She paints bloodborne
hunter becomes a great one and hunts and kills every other great one
Hunter grows up to become the old one
Humans start using his arcane powers
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>we never found out more about Gertrude
>we never found out more about the Profaned Capital
>we never found out what Sulyvahn did in Lothric
>we never found out more about Saint Kimt and the Man-Grubs relation to the Angels

So many fucking dead ends, it's infuriating.
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>>172929387
Pyromancer and Dark builds get shit on hard in this DLC because Demon Princes and Midir laugh at fire and dark damage. Pretty sure those should still do good damage to Gael though.

Just like the DaS2 DLCs, nothing beats good ol' physical damage.
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>>172929630
Princes keel over at the sight of Rouge though, so there's always that out
Gael does the same with poison
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>>172929596
Use a different weapon.
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>>172929613
No, Bloodborne is what happens after the good ending of Demon's
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>>172929665
>demons bleed
WHY THOUGH
AREN'T THEY LIKE
MADE OF FIRE
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>>172929457
shes a dragon idjit
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>>172929484
Because Gwyndolin looks totally like Gwyndolin now and the Firstborn totally looks as fresh as he used to.
Idiot.
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>>172929623
>we never found out more about Gertrude
She is dead. Literally a fucking corpse in a cage.
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>>172929691
wrong

proof: miyazaki's my dad
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>>172929695
No, they're made of tree. They bleed fire.
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>>172929691
>demons' souls
>good ending
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>>172929695
No see its a DaS reference since demons in that game were also weak to bleed

In all seriousness demons are BORN from the chaos flame, they're still beings of flesh and blood
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>>172929373
Putting her soul where they did was a bit obvious, I don't have many doubts that this is Gwynevere. Not that it's a great reunion with a waifu or anything because this is the first time we actually see her in the flesh.
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>>172929785
The stray demon and fire demons looked like burnt wood.
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Is there a curved greatsword with an infinite combo just like the painting guardian sword? I just got comboed with 6 hits and I was unable to roll between them. I feel like DSP.
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>>172928406
>Spears: 18th attempt
Holy shit, what sl are you?
I did it on first try. It spawned me some backpedaling mage, it was a really tedious, but I pulled a spear and killed him. Then I did a reset two times and rekt these guys too, they looked like this was their first summon (you can see a fear in them when they realize they have no chuggies). I'm sl120.
Oddly enough, every time I reset I had a player, but it summoned me only once in 2 hours.
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>>172929749
Yes, I know that, but still there is a fuckton of unexplained things regarding her.

Also why are there so many feathers in the Twin Princes' boss room? That shit is just too random, for example.
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Anyone else wish they'd remaster DaS 1?

Things like better menus, unlocked directional rolling, not shit matchmaking, covenant slots, streamlined weapon crafting, respeccing, dual weapons, more INT/FTH weapons, expanded NPC AI, etc.
Not to mention a proper PC release.

DaS 1 feels like such a fucking chore to play from just installing, to not being able to respec, to clunky fucking controls.

DaS 2 I like and it feels fine to play through even after playing 3. But 1 just feels too damn dated.
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>>172929484
>Except she looks nothing like Gwynevere
>Except she looks nothing like a character I have never seen before DkS3
Intredasting.
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>>172929623
>Man-Grubs relation to the Angels
They were related somehow?

Also can anyone tell me if I have this right? pilgrims turn into angels, which overtime become pilgrim butterflies? Or are they not related?

Also whats with the grub things that when killed also kill the angels?

im so confused
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>>172929596
play a real fighting game for awhile, learn how spacing works
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>>172929623
im just sad we dont learn shit about the profaned flame
everything else seems either too unimportant or has enough info already
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Anyone on PS4 up for lmao2demon? I'm having trouble killing them as a pure caster, since they seem to be resistant to Dark.
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>>172929879
Summons have gotten slow for the Spears already. It's just because more players have beaten Midir now.
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>>172928406
Demon Prince: 2nd try
Spears: lost track but it's more than 20 attempts in online mode
Midir: 5
Gael: 10
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>>172929623
>Gertrude
Rosaria
>Profaned Capital
Abyss got mixed in the local manifestation of first flame and burned every man when Yhorm linked it
>Sully in Lothric
Indoctrinate the Princes, and make a few doggos
>Klimt
Serve mommy Rosaria, become Grub like all fingers except Leonhard(according to DLC, which smells like bullshit because both Creighton and Kirk hollowed instead)
>angels
Fuck if I know
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>>172929902
Some bullshit about angels.
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>>172929596
>katanerd
Washing pole.
Commit sudoku after, my man.
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>>172929902
The twin brothers just love pillow fights.
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Anyone have an actual dragonslayer armour build going now?
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>>172929902
>winged knights all over the castle
wow i wonder how if knights ever report to their king
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>>172929287
The "mother" she mentions is Priscilla, right ?
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>>172929034
Neutering weapons parries was a mistake.
Shit's obligatory. Maybe in the next game they merge it with the block button, like kicking with shields to parry.
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Anyone on PS4 care to help me transfer a couple stacks of mats and souls to a new character?

I can gift you just about whatever you want as payment.
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>>172929995
>become Grub like all fingers except Leonhard(according to DLC
Where?
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>>172930046
If you wanna meme it's bloodborne.
Because the world of bloodborne is totally a dark and cold place.
lel
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>>172928127
But why would he do that?
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>>172929938
The Man-Grub wizards fire a spell that has the same kind of feather-trail as the angelic miracle related to Gertrude. Also the fact that there are Man-grubs in the rafters near her cage, when they can't be found anywhere else in Lothric Castle.
There must be some connection.

Pilgrims can turn both into those Butterflies and Angels, but what causes what and why Angels have a "host" is completely unclear.
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>>172929879
about level 100. I wouldnt kill the painting guardians, so whenever I got the guy low he would just run away from me until the guardians healed him

was also very laggy, only had a couple of non laggy runs
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>>172930080
You can't drop upgrade materials or boss souls for other people.
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Anybody down to help me out against Midir on PS4? Password is dsg
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>>172929912
Are you retarded?
>>172929743
He does though. Except the giant appendage eating him. I recognised him at first glance, not when I saw him in-game, but when the cheevo icons where leaked. That far back and immediately. Rosaria looks nothing like Gwynevere and we have pretty clear views of both. NK is weird. Can't really say he's changed his facial structure because he's probably hollowed to the fuck, probably because of the loss of his deific status. What he wears and what he uses is extremely similar to the what we saw in that broken up statue
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>>172930091
>Of all the Fingers, he alone was embraced by the Abyss.
>For he was human, and ne'er a grub.
>Fear not the dark, my friend.
>And let the feast begin.
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>>172930119
>her mother is bloodborne
What ?
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>>172929976
I find walking in and out of the spear boss room every minute or so helps get you summoned for it. It resets your matchmaking and I think that helps you get immediately re-evaluated, or perhaps placed in a new pool. Also being close to the boss room itself might place you closer in priority.

E.g. I never get summoned while I'm playing or waiting in amother area. But with my method, I get a summon every 10 minutes.
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>>172930162
Are you the guy from yesterday that I was helping on my Sunbro?
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>>172930153
I thought it was just Slabs? The souls are generic.
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>>172930014
Anybody?
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>>172930162
The fight is harder with summons because the boss tracks random targets and runs all the time
Just solo it anon, it's easier for everyone
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who /partake/ here?
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>>172930209
Yup, that's me. Are you free to help me out against him?
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>>172929903
Would be cool, but no chance other than bare minimum effort.
Also fixing bugs would break the balance.
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>>172930091
>>172930193
Not just the dlc, it was stated in his mask I think, he never rebirthed
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>>172930269
Sure thing. I'll put my sign down again, same place as usual. I hope you've got plenty of Embers because I'm all out.
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>>172930227
>high str
>high vit
>Equip Dragonslayer Armour things
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>>172930183
i think he means we never saw the 'real' gwynevere even thought there are statues and paintings of her all over
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>>172930183
>Are you retarded?
You clearly are. You have no idea what happened to her AND you have in fact never seen this character in person before DkS3. Not once.
>It doesn't fit for the symbol of fertility, Gwynevere, to be able to do rebirths
Please just stop discussing lore
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>>172930304
All righty, I'll be here.
>>172930240
I just can't do it by myself, the guy's health pool is way too big for just me to take out and he does way too much damage.
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>>172930304
>I'm all out
You want a stack? I can red soap over at the drop to Princes before you help the anon.
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>Get to the ringed city
>Light first bonfire
>Already invaded
>Invader refuses to come up the stairs out of arrow range
Nice, i assume someone on YT made a video on invading here?
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>>172930312
Yeah, I know. That's why I called him retarded. Except if he's going to pull the "lel they were illusions too" card, in which case nothing that happens in Anor Londo matters
>>172930332
Haha. And we see her in DS3 too, that room with the Silver Knight jacking off to her.
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>panic summoned by a Host getting attacked by a PUGS scrub
>promptly kill said scrub
>host nowhere to be seen
>You were sent home by the host

well gee, you're welcome cunt
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>tfw invading at Shared Grave
>almost always poor fuckers who just want to knock down Midir

Who /devilish/ here?
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>>172930364
It's not a rocket science, looks like easy embers, right? Little did that smartasses know, seed exists.
Pop an ember, seed, enjoy the show.
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>mfw the feast begins
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>>172930424
Even if that on the painting were her real look, centuries of corruption/hollowin/whatever could have change her into what we see in 3.
The only god we have seen in person that looked like he was not absolutely fucked up was Gwyndolin and he is also a master of illusions.
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>>172930262
>*high pitched partake*
why are mini locusts so amusing?
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>>172930541
>The only god we have seen in person that looked like he was not absolutely fucked up was Gwyndolin and he is also a master of illusions.
That's funny you should say that because the CU meeting Gwyndolin is not canon. Rosaria might be related to Gwynevere but is not her
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So did anything happen with patches? After he kicked me off the ledge I never saw him again
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>>172930539
>implying i wont partake

drawfag should do pick related with the preachers head and a blue branch as a bat
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>>172930262
>>172930539
FEAR NOT THE DARK MY FRIENDS
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New tier list.
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>>172930539
Looks like a shit fly from that profile.
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>>172930350
Damn, that's the closest we've gotten so far. I have a feeling he's going down tonight for sure.

>>172930358
Actually, if you could drop it at the second Ringed City bonfire that'd be great. Spears are alive in my world so you can use your white.
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so, I was originally planning on going to SL140

but I'm not even sure if I should anymore

is 34 vig / 26 end adequate enough for mad king?
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>>172930193
OK where is this one. I must have missed a Locust.
I did wonder why there never seemed to be a conclusive end to that dialogue, I found the one talking about things which gnaw at flesh and then there wasn't any closure.
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>>172930539
I shall PARTAKE
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>>172930674
>her
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>>172930483
>invade before host gets to patches
>use chameleon in the room just under where he kicks you
>as soon as the cutscene ends use chariot charge and knock him off the ledge to his death
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>>172930663
Same here, I tried soloing him a few times earlier with decent results, so that might be part of the reason why we're doing better now.
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>>172928406

2bats = 2. Laser got me ironically
Midir = 3
Spears = 1
Gael = ~15
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>>172930509
Huh, i might actually stock up on seeds and pop finger at the first bonfire.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpudNxp9TVo
really makes u think
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>>172930653
we seen it, its shit
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>>172930539
>>172930646

An edit of this would be amazing.
>Wherever I go I must also FEAST
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>>172930760
Make yours then
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>>172930674
24 end is enough for anything that isnt an ugs
try 40 vit
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>>172930782
nope. DS3 is an abandoned trashgame pestered by gankers, so 99.9% of the weapons are useless anyways
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>>172930764
>wikidot hasn't extracted the icon yet
>have to make to with fextra's shitty crops
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>>172928406

Demon prince: 3 attempts

Spears: 4 attempts

Midir: 1 attempt

Gael: 2 attempts

Sword and board makes everything easy, went with BKS for Spears last attempt and just went face on someone with 26 vig...
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>>172930637
As seen on fanfiction.net
>CU meeting Gwyndolin is not canon
>Implying CU didn't fight him but lose and just decided to fuck it and move on because he was rocking a Str build anyway
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>>172930831
I wanted to use lothric gs, but I think I'm going to wait on that for now

maybe I'll just go up to SL130 instead of 40 then

thanks
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>>172930727
Sorry about the wait, got invaded by some chucklefuck and it doesn't look like that anon's coming to drop me Embers. Sign's down now.
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>>172930758
>DS1 PvP video
>It's just chain backstabs again
Oh boy.
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So when is FROM announcing Miyazaki's next masterpiece?
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>>172926606
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>>172930653
>Smoldering iron and GFH trash tier just like this list
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>>172930653
every great hammer that isnt large club and gargoyles needs to be moved a full tier up
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>>172930958
E3 or TGS
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>>172930943
Awesome, I'll try to keep a closer eye on you this time so that you don't waste healing things on me. Running out of estus is what kind of fucked me in the end that last time.
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>>172930954
>ignores the cheating retard
>gets mad at the dude chainstabbing the cheater instead
heh
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>>172930653
Vordt's GM and Quaking hammer are amazing weapons now.
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>>172930887
Demon prince: 2 attempts. summoned Lapp for 2nd.
Spears: 6 attempts
Midir: 12 attempts summoned a spanish dude
Gael: 6 attempts
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>>172930539
>search thine own self
what did they mean by this?
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>>172931002
Oh fuck, that was my fault completely. Sorry. I'm a little bit rusty on this fight.
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>>172931074
It means the locust guy is your dad.
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>>172926606
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>>172931061
her feet dont look like that.
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>>172931113
No problem at all, I teleported out to avoid wasting an ember.
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who died first?
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>>172931135
The way that screenshot is framed reminds me of Lost Bastille.
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>>172931013
Seeing some guy progressing through the single player with cheats enabled isn't new or interesting. Seeing backstabs in Chain Backstabs: Prepare to Backstab edition isn't interesting. Nothing about your youtube video is worth my time.
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>>172931145
>cute feet moving at incredibly hihg speed
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>Halflight can parry you
I'll be damned.
And you can summon Patches for the fight... and he's using the Splitleaf. A little on the nose, From.

I was wondering who that clothing set belonged to, but I notice her legs are different than the Loincloth item you find in Earthen Peak. Are her leggings actually in TRC somewhere?
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>>172930653
Bkga, bkgs, dsga shouldn't be this low.
Flagpole is goat on quality.
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>>172930958
I know it's ironic at this point, but I have high hopes for blameborne. He can't fuck up gamebalance five times in a row, right?
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For the Frayed Blade you go 60 Dex right?

Whats a good backup weapon incase of poise tanks
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>>172926515
>another Souls-like game
It might take a few years but I'm working on one, don't worry ;)
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>>172931186
[partakes internally]
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>>172931169
Host got grabbed
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>>172931186
PARTAKE
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>>172931186
LET THE FEAST BEGIN
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>>172931186
LET
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>>172931227
white. then the host. he also disconnected during death.
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>>172931186
I have candy.
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>>172931181
:)
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>>172931171
They are both prisons after all.
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>>172931186
FEAR NOT THE DARK
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>>172931208
Frayed blade has stanced r1, you don't need a sidearm for big guys
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>>172931273
i have lolis.
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Is Ashes of Ariandel really as horrendously short as people make it out to be?

I thinking of buying it based on the praise I'm hearing about the final boss fight and also that I really like how Vilhelm's set looks and would like the fashionsouls
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>>172931326
Show
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You lack the license for this DLC.
Returning to menu.
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>>172931186
PARTAKE
A
R
T
A
K
E
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>>172931208
Depressingly going above 40 Dex only gives you the same AR as putting the same number of points into STR, and putting the extra points into STR is more useful in general for anything else you might want to use.
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>>172930914
then going for 27 end is a must if you wanted lotrhics gs
i like 40 vig but 35 is probably enough
also, where is your sage ring?
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>>172931346
Just get someone to drop it for you.
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>>172930764
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>>172931159
>tfw saw my death coming in slow motion
I've made a huge mistake
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>>172931346
It is shorter than even AotA and one of the bosses is a complete joke. It has some nice weapons and scenery in it though
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>>172931415
Midir has some ridiculous damage output.
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>>172931394
keked
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>>172931346
The whole area is actually of a decent size, but only if you're exploring every nook. If you beeline the ending it's short.
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>>172931394
B A S E D

Thank you, anon
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What is the lightest pure Str weapon?
why are Str classes cursed to use heavy weapons and shitty light armor?
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>>172931373
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>people in this thread average less than 10 tries for some of the hardest bosses in the series
>10 tries is my average for medium-difficulty bosses

I'm beginning to think I'm straight up retarded bad at these games, and I'm just persistent. It takes me a good 5-10 tries on one boss just to begin to understand their patterns, and I suck dick at reaction, so unless I know exactly what animations I'm looking for, I'm probably going to eat a nasty hit.

Demons took me 3-5 tries, which I consider super easy.
Spear took me 5-10.

Midir and Gael both probably took me somewhere between 30-50 over the course of a few hours. I had to straight up look up a video to see how someone else beat Midir, because I was essentially ramming my head against a brick wall getting nowhere for the first 20-30 tries. Didn't cheese him or anything though, just copied the general strategy and eventually built a very solid understanding of his attack patterns. Nameless King, who I consider to be the hardest Souls boss took me 50+ tries, 4-6 hours straight, and several build changes to deal with him.

How bad am I, /vg/?
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>>172926515

>Played Souls for longer then I like to admit because of its PvP and nothing else really tickled that specific nerve for me.
>Now For Honor is out, the game has serious issues but the PvP is a lot better than Souls PvP and satisfies my urge for action melee PvP combat
>Souls feels so empty to me now
DkS3 is really just "Play once and drop" if you aren't in it for the PvP. Fug. I hope From moves on from that forumla. Either that or they step their PvP game up 100 levels.

Or make invasions more than just a meme. There is no reason whatsoever for someone to play the game online unless they want to gank or actually want to duel other players. One time in a million you find a single PvEer that forgot to go offline. That's the only time invasions feel the way they were originally intended. M hates invaders though, so it will only get worse from here, should anything in that direction be in a From game again.
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>>172930764
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>>172931496
what
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>>172931346
vilhelms set is too small and comes in an akward shade of greenish brown-black to really match well with anything
its also only got a boss and a half
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STOP PULLING YOUR GODDAMN PLUG PLAY OFFLINE IF YOU DONT WANT TO GET INVADED REEEEEEEEEE
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>>172931498
It doesn't matter if you're bad. Do you have fun? That's the only consideration.
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>>172931346
Yes, if youre the kind of person who takes his time, actually explores and looks around. Its decently sized and has 2 bosses. One of which is the hardest in the series.

If youre a speedrunning faggot playing purely to finish it and complain about it on the internet then no
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>>172931381
>pillars
you ever hit anyone with that?
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>>172931381
27 end only gives me 2 more stam with favor+3

>where is your sage ring?
not using it until I get sages +1 and when i don't need priestess to reach 60 fai
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>>172931530
No, I want to waste your time.
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>>172931373
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>>172931493
Millwood battleaxe probably. Technically, heavy caestus but I'm not sure how good that is
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That's twice now Projected Heal has gotten me killed. I'll try to avoid using it.
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>>172931493
>What is a Heavy Longsword?
>What is the Millwood Battleaxe?
>Why am I such a shitter?
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>>172931169
>play mage
>put all flasks to ashen
>put my summon outside dancer
>every host is a fucking scrublet
How do people who are so bad at the game even know you can fight the boss early?
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>>172931498
Do you have problems with reaction times/are you an oldfag?
What's your standard build like?
Do you tend to panic roll?
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>>172931493
just level VIT as much as you can spare dude, the defense bonus is really good
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>>172931381
>tfw when you make a female character so ugly that someone else has a male character more visually appealing than your own
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>>172928406
Demon Prince: 2nd attempt
Spears: 1st attempt
Midir: 3rd attempt
Gael: 3 rd attempt

Build: Lvl 95 Chaos Blade build with 60 dex
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Who cosplay Gael here?
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>>172931651
they are just retards who socialized on GTA and want to kill every npc for fun.
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Trying to relearn ds3 controls with a controller and starting to doubt all that jazz about keyboard controlls being worse.
But then again, I haven't really used controllers since PS1
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>>172931493
you can use heavy infusion on whatever weapon you want pal (to make your own pure strength weapon out of anything). I just finished a playthrough with a heavy thrall axe

Small, hits fast, hits pretty hard, Weapon art is a bloodborne dash. Good times
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>>172931651
By watching a guide on youtube
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>>172931498
Have a metronome ticking in the background. All bosses but one attack to a hidden 4/4 beat.
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>>172931530
>not just counting it as a victory
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>>172929264
This
The no lock-on/no rolling challenges really show just how 'broken' the bosses are when you aren't locked on. You don't need those rolls.
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>>172931697
>cosplaying a failure of an uncle who left his adorable qt loli niece waiting for a literal forever going to get some paints

nah I'm good
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>>172931498
Well I consider Midir and Gael the kind of bosses that you either kill in max 10 tries or more than 50
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>>172930663
Hey, sorry, you still want those Embers?

>>172931194
>I was wondering who that clothing set belonged to, but I notice her legs are different than the Loincloth item you find in Earthen Peak. Are her leggings actually in TRC somewhere?
Bump.

>>172931498
>The stories on this board are works of fiction...
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>>172931498
i beat demons first try ever on my level 80 str build. solo, of course, but ive been running these games since 2009
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>>172929453
The doors are fucking garbage honestly, ton of weapons counter them
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>>172929264
"Dead aiming?"
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>>172931719
Like how are you supposed to look around and dodge at the same time?
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>Love Greatlance
>"Let me try this ringed spear everybody talks about
>Jump attacks and wide slashes

This is it. This is the spear I was waiting for
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New WA's kindda make most old weapons obselete, dafuck?
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>>172931880
Claw grip. Thumb on the right stick and index finger on the roll button.
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>>172931927
all vanilla and DLC1 weapons are unviable thanks to DLC2
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>>172931965
But that's uncomfortable as fuck
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>>172931697
What shader
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What went right/wrong for Dark Souls 2 ?
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>>172931927
they stopped giving fucks and powercreeped entire game to hell
Even Ariandel weapons don't have shit on most of TRC bullshit
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>>172931880
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>>172932000
photoshop sadly :/

>original pic
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>>172931989
So that's why almost all Greathammers, UGS, GS and particularly Exile's GS are so fucking good right now, huh?
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>>172931748
Still not sure if they're using CE to save themselves or the game just fucks up and kicks you out.
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>>172931880
using camera while running and dodging in the souls hame has always been awkward.

I think its called 'claw grip' or something, I have my thumb on the camera stick and use my pointer finger to hit/hold B
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Whats up with that final encounter with patches? He could have easily kicked you to your death but he just makes you fall a very short distance where there are no enemies, and then gives a bit a cryptic send-off. I thought it was a cool questline though. Do you think he remembered you from an earlier time after he reached the purging stone? He made a toast to you very similar to siegwards as well at one point. How do think he knows those words? Was he merely pretending to not remember anything?

What is this fuckers endgame?
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>>172932035
bah shit wrong ss, you get the idea tho.
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>>172932002
>Right
Weapon parries. Being able to parry with any weapon in both hands was so fucking great for greatswords and ultras

>Wrong
Literally everything else. The game was a fucking disaster in every regard.
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>>172931186
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>Fire Fades edition comes out
>In Brand-New DX12 Engine
>Extra content added
>Player-base is separate
>mfw
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>>172932002
>wrong
Worst netcode in series with horrible lagstabs, ADP, soul memory, no red orb
>right
Everything else
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Well shit dude. I really don't know how to dodge his laser lightshow properly, I got lucky when I beat him and rarely ever saw it. Anyone else care to share some tips on that?

>>172931835
Nah, I think we'll be good. We're getting closer and closer to beating him. Thanks for the offer though.
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>>172932002
>right
Innovative designs like powerstancing, good NG+, good fashion and semi decent AI
>wrong
soul memory, a lot of shit bosses, parts of PVE were really shitty as well among other things

The WORST part about it though, was that the bad parts overshadowed the good ones and so the good parts never made it to ds3. Instead they took one step forward and 3 steps back removing powerstancing, giving us 0 reason to go to NG+, 12 "shitty tattered robes and generic k***hts" and tsorig who will literally walk into lava to get you
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>>172932067
He's a nihilst that made it to the very end only out of spite
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>>172932067
Patches has a twisted sense of honour, but a sense of honour nonetheless. He saves Greirat's life, because Greirat saved his. He kicks you off a very small ledge because he's fucking Patches, but he doesn't try to kill you because he's saying thanks for helping him restore his memory.
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So no material mats at all can be traded huh?

>>172932119
Aight. Let me know if you change your mind. I need to pay it forward.
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haven't played since launch, is the zweihander still mediocre?
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>>172932131
oh yeah I forgot to mention
>left
>handed
>movesets
And you know more fun movesets in general like the bone fist but my main gripe is WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU BLOCK WITH A PARRYING DAGGER HUH A TEAM
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>>172932117
The excuse for SotFS more or less was the PS4/XB1 release of DaS2, which wasn't on those consoles before. I doubt they'll another stunt like that on us.
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>>172931989
CQ are still good on dex, sabre's somewhat nefred with qualty but still good. Quakestone is somewhat replaced by ledo's but hey, it isn't any worse than it was.
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>>172932002
>Wrong
DS2 w/out SOTFS
Baited lighting
SOUL MEMERY
Shitbuya
cluster fuck of mooks everywhere

>Right
SOTFS/Lighting
DLC's being actually good
Weapons/Armor/Fashion especially
New innovative ideas, even if they weren't fleshed out that well
NPC Invasions/summons
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was fun watching invaders die to arrows and blues brothers get easy rewards
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>>172932131
Don't forget fun invasions, like the guy who has like 105% equip load, the assissin in the fire tower and ice city, and fucking armorer goddamn dennis.
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>>172931570
Hell yeah, I have fun with these games, but it still depresses the fuck out of me to realize how bad I am.

>>172931661
Not oldfag, only 23, but I do have terrible reactions
.
My standard build is pretty tanky, usually wear Winged Knight or Catarina Armor with Black Knight Sword and Shield and Pyromancy Flame. My weight's around 68%. I do tend to panic roll, but I've been getting better with it. I was around Lvl 115 for this DLC.

I die to literally every single invasion unless the invader/me is super laggy, and I luck out. I have zero knowledge of the meta or how things like poise really work besides the basics. I just try to roll when appropriate and time my hits to reduce getting punished, I don't really know what builds are good or anything.

I mean, I can generally time things pretty well for 90% of a boss fight, but it only takes one fuck up in these games, and you're dead. One poorly timed roll or greedy hit on Gael or Midir, and you're going from 100 to 0 real quick. I just don't know how people can last whole boss fights without tripping up or making a lethal mistake. I have to keep doing them over and over until I get the muscle memory to pull off a near flawless run.
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>>172932119
No problem. After you died, I managed to get him down to 1/4 of his health before dying. We can definitely pull this off.
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>>172931869
I've spent the entire weekend invading around the place and didn't see them once. Infact I haven't seen any of the TRC weapons, other than the paired greatswords heaps of times and the banner spear once.
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>>172931498
Nah, it's just your who's honest about your progress.
Add x2 multiplier at least and you'll get the real numbers.
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>>172932040
>Greathammers, UGS, GS
All ugs are still garbage, and GS got nerfed hard along with quality
Great hammers got worse, doesn't matter if they got more damage and vordt applies frost in 1hit, they have a SLOWER swing now
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>>172929264
In DS2 the player actually moves faster unlocked, and sprint kicks in faster without triggering a turn-around animation because you're already facing the right way. Setting your facing in advance is also a massive deal when you're playing with DS2's turning restrictions, and any fight with multiple mobs is best tackled by controlling your swing arc manually.

In DS3 the advantage isn't as great and in some fights you're just adding the additional requirement of controlling the camera for no benefit. But there are still plenty of places where manually aiming attacks is an advantage, or where the fixed camera isn't the best way to view a boss.

Also god damn, fighting in hazard areas like narrow bridges while locked on, where your movement controls are relative to the movements of your target instead of the environment you're playing around is 300% cancer.
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>>172932232
>Shitbuya
Was Shibuya the guy who started it or the guy assigned to take the previous dudes' mess and make a playable game from it? I know DS2 had two directors.
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>>172932278
Yeah, I'm pretty determined to do it at this point. This fucker is going down.
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>people still fall for the "Gael is a literal who" meme
>slave knights might have been the laughing stock of soldiers but they still fought alongside Gwyn
>Gael's crossbow fires LIGHTNING crossbow bolts suggesting he might have fought dragons before the age of fire even existed
>he uses an advanced form of Way of White Corona
>A lost Way of White miracle [...] Long ago, when the imprints left by the gods were still deep, miracles of the Way of White existed alongside aureoles.
Gael was a badass mofo since the beginning but never got credit for anything.
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>>172932002
>right
Combat mechanics were a step in the right direction.
>wrong
Pretty much everything else.

I really hoped Dark Souls 3 would combine the best of two worlds, but alas, it never meant to be.
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>>172931736
I'm a shitter and have totally avoided infusions since DaS1.
Do infusions completely remove the other scalings?
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>>172931498
>50 tries on Nameless with various builds
Well there's likely to be some fundamental problem like you start hitting roll as soon as you take damage, but if you don't know what you're doing wrong we might need a video to identify it.
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>>172932002
>wrong

This shit
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>>172932320
The first
Tanimura is the guy with the proverbial ductape
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>>172932027
cute feet
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>>172932423
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>>172932372
It's funny how I've seen some people complain about Gael being "literally who" and an Artorias copy at the same time-
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>>172932002
>Right
design concepts
world lore

>Wrong
Everything to do with being a videogame
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>>172932356
One mistimed roll and I'm dead. Do you think that a smaller sword would work better? I have a +5 ringed knight sword that I could probably use.
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>>172932423
>Trying to block a grab
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>>172932430
So Tanimura was the guy who salvaged what he could of DS2?

Why do people hate him?
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>>172932320
Shibuya was the one who started and ruined DS2. Even FROM thought he was shit and axed him and from there no ones ever heard of him again. Probably went to commit sudoku desu

Tanimura was the one who took over late in the dev stage and made the game somehow less shit. He also made the DLC's and I believe was also in charge of the ringed city
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>>172932561
Not worth it IMO. He's resistant to fire damage. You should stick to your Propane GS, you've done pretty well with it so far. Also just went and bought the last handful of Embers from the Handmaid, in case you need more.
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>>172932513
>design concepts
Outside of Amana and LGK the art direction was almost not even there,
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>>172932002
>wrong
random ass lore that doesnt match up or gets straight up retconned by other games
fucking parries knock people on their ass instead of instant repost
world fucked up (see taking an elevator up a mountain and emerging at the bottom of a lake of fire)
EVERYTHING is infusable
SOUL MEMORY LMAO
no red/blue eye orb
agility stat
reused bosses
covenants that level off of pointless arenas
>right
poison is useful in pvp
rings and equipment to boost everything - not just mag but also bleed and poison
most weapons have proper dual wield movesets (either strong attacks or parry for L2)
POWER STANCE FUCK YEA
backstep i-frames
all buffs scaled off the weapon, making large weapons just as viable as smaller, faster, but weaker weapons

>>172932453
thats the first image off google searching for 'claw grip', not me
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>>172932372
That's kinda the point. he was just a more or less regular dude who (like guts) ends up facing off against insurmountable odds with his willpower alone. He fought to the literal end of time, knowing it would drive him insane and knowing in the end it was to create a better world he could never be apart of.

If you just bumblefuck your way through the game and don't look into anything Gael is a literal who. but when you read into the lore he gets plenty of exposition and I think he is a fantastic final boss both with his lore and the fight itself. Gael actually did nothing wrong, he was a hero.
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>>172931615
only if they arent looking

>>172931616
i forgot everyone can get easy access to fap+3 now

>>172931687
hey, cant say i didnt try
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>>172932578
because he's not memehacki
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>>172932578
What? We like Tanimura here.
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>>172932391
they alter scaling in the same way upgrade paths in das1 did

the only difference instead of splitting into a different path at a certain weapon level, you just change the path at any level
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>>172932393
It's not so much that I panic roll as much as I'm incredibly bad at figuring out when I should roll, takes me a shit ton of tries to sync the animation timing with the proper time to roll. As mentioned in my last post, I generally run a tanky build with the BKS, but that wasn't working at all with Nameless. I beat his first phase first try just with Black Flame Pyromancer eezy peezy, but his second phase was just too damn quick for my super committal swings.

I eventually beat him with the Dark Hand and Dark Clutch Ring .
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>>172932628
Fair enough, I do also have a +10 executioner's GS and a +10 pickaxe that I could use gold pine resin on juuuust in case. And thanks, but I'm fine for the time being.
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Gameplay: Tanimura
Lore/Worldbuilding: Miyazaki
Story: Taro
Music: Okabe

How would this game turn out? Giant clusterfuck?
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>>172932578
Because overall DS2 is the weaker of the souls games, plus places like reddit and /v/ jump on the big "Dark Souls 2 is pure cancer" bandwagon.
And since Tanimura's name is listed as Head Director, combined with the fact that people dont do their research into DS2's development troubles, you get the Tani hate train online.

/dsg/ seems to think he's okay though
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How should I counter his argument?
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>>172932669
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyanosis

Seek medical care immediately
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>>172932372
>fought alongside Gwyn
More like served as cannon fodder.
>>172932423
You definitely got grabbed there. The animation moving you should've been quicker and the fall shouldn't be cartoon style, but gameplaywise nothing is wrong there
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>>172932002
everybody forgot to mention that all the fucking enemies despawn so you cant farm them.
and enemies that only spawn once per ng and dont start dropping armor -AT LOW RATES- until ng+
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>>172932769
literally whos aside from miyazaki-oniichan
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>>172932669
Jotaro?
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>>172932806
>what are bonfire ascetics

>>172932784
>phoneposter
>lebbit user
>all those status notifications
If this is bait, congratulations.
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>>172932767
Pickaxe might work actually. It has all vertical moves, so it should be easier to hit his head with it. Don't forget to slap the Leo Ring on just in case.
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>sunbroing for any of the bosses in this dlc

who /masochist/ here?
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>>172931194
Halflight is a dude. He isn't wearing any pants for some reason so he has the pjama pants undies on.
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>>172932784
It's almost good point if you forget that host isn't necessarily a clueless pve babby.
Also, clear up your notifications.
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>>172932781
But I whenever reddit shows up and I see threads on /v/ they say "WOW DS2 WAS FUCKING GOOD, DS3 IS GARBAGE, APOLOGIZE RIGHT FUCKING NOW"
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>>172932914
>chalice dungeon coop.jpg
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>>172932806
>that guy who posted the Save/Quit method to keep farming the Aurous NPC

What a hero
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>>172932769
Pretty bad game that everyone would sperg about being great as fans keep claiming you just don't get how it works
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>>172932781
No one defends DaS2 harder than reddit tho
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>>172926606
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I think overall every souls game has been better than the one before it. But 2 has a disproportionate amount of poor gameplay design choices in comparison to good ones.
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Is Dex/Int still fun?
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Do I need to be outside the halflight boss room for the spears cov to work?
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>>172932921
Him wearing pants didn't fit with the lore or vision of the game
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>>172932996
Its a fucking bipolar place, one moment they suck e-celeb As dick and defend DS2 to the death, next day they'll suck e-celeb Bs dick and stomp on DS2
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>>172932791
served as cannon fodder and survived through sheer as kickery
>>172932879
>wasting ascetics EVERY time theres an armor set
>burning multiple ascetics to farm more ascetics so you can farm armor
>lmao say goodbye to your soul memory
sotfs helped this shit but still
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>>172933014
Fun yes. Good no.
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>>172932879
I'm eating breakfast about to head to work I don't have access to my computer yet

>>172932934
True but what exactly should I tell him, not good with arguments and the like
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>>172932002
>Right
Powerstance
>Wrong
Almost everything else
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>>172932786
supposed to look like a cold corpse
so i got something right atleast
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>>172932875
Is that a Jojo reference?
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>>172933114
>survived through sheer asskickery
do you know what an undead is?
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>finally killed the fucking dragon

This Katana was worth it but whatever. On a side note why would you EVER get that spell.
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>>172933127
What is the "this" link?
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>>172932996
They have their own subreddit for that as they do for everything so it's pretty hard to gauge it desu.

On /dsg/ it's about 50/50 which is pretty decent I think. I think most reasonable people can recognize that DS2 tried new shit but executed it terribly. It definitely had more style and soul if nothing else

On the other hand DS3 played it too safe and feels a bit boring bland and a bit too clean and sterile. The references and callbacks don't help but it works well enough I suppose.
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>>172928406

>lmao 2 demon

First try

>Santa

First try

>Midir

5th try.

I'm on NG+3 now, MIdir took me 2 tries, Demons still 1 and i'm on my 3rd try on Gael, no one told me he could pull this shit.

Overall i think the DLC bosses aren't that hard, Elfriede was much harder for me, i don't know how many tries she took me but it took me a lot.
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>>172933228
It's a straight upgrade to Soul Greatsword.
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has anyone here done midir with a heavy weapon? (giant mace, GS, UGS, glaive etc.)
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>>172933228
Because katanas are for weeb faggots.
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>>172933228
Fashion
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>>172933228
When you are a sorcerer and have no use for a katana?
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>>172933228
I really hope you're not the guy I've been Sunbroing with since yesterday
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>>172933291
Yeah but you're still using a bad spell.
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>>172933261
What? You wanna see what I said or a link to thread?
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>>172933292
Nothing but Heavy weapons vs Midir, except for the one time i mercury cheesed him
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>>172933293
But the bully strats!
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>>172933292
Ledo hammer was doing a good job for me but I ultimately switched back to Gael's shit.
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>>172933292
He's most easiest with a heavy weapon due to the "you can land 2 shots then roll for 10 minutes" aspect of his fight
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>>172926606
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>>172928406
Bats - around 10
Spears - 1
Midir - 4
Gael - like 15
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Man I fought the spears at SL 50 and I feel robbed. The bot's AI is so shit with him just firing a bow.
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God I love this fucking thing so much
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>>172933445
How the fuck did you get your shit pushed in on bats but not midir.
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>>172933291
>direct upgrade
>shorter
>slower
>more conspicuous telegraph
>requires a long ass charge to reach full power
its only better if you manage to hit with both the beam and the sword but both parts of the spell are bad
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>>172933445
NG?
I'm on NG++ and I can't imagine anyone struggling against bats and Gael and then just doing Midir in less than ten tries like that.
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>>172932697
Oh so what about skill requirements? Do they change?
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>>172933292
I doubt he would be easier with something faster. Except maybe for some buffed twinblades hypermode shit. At most I'd get another hit in with millwood axe
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Thank you so much for helping me with Midir, I can't tell you how much I appreciated that.
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>>172933424
>>172933407
>>172933379

guess I just need to git gud then. was having trouble with all of his limbs sliding around and in and out of my attacks, and his tail going through the floor of the arena to dodge my shit
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>>172933539
Not him but while I beat demons first try and Midir on my third I took around 15 for Gael.
NG+3 by the way.
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>>172933292
I did him with Lothric GS.
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>get all the highest + rings before DLC came out
>+3 versions of all the best rings can be achieved without going to NG

Kill me

You might as fucking well just rush to Earthen peak to get favor +3 now instead of dealing with the beasts in the aldrich place
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>>172930758

DSCM has finally added a blocklist? Nice.
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>>172933292
>not dragon-slaying as the dragon slayer
DSGA all day every day.
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>>172933661
It's finally over! I was so damn hyped when he fell into the riposte state. That Pickaxe really worked out in the end. Good stuff my friend!
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>>172933674
>limbs sliding around and in and out of my attacks, and his tail going through the floor of the arena to dodge my shit
>targeting anything other than the head
do you not like doing damage?
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>>172933292
I'm attempting to beat him with a +5 Quakestone hammer, SL131 NG+.

End my suffering
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>>172933707
did all rings get a +3 version?
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>>172933819
Just go for the head. He is weak to blunt damage
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>>172933870
All the ones that already have +2 versions, except Sage's Ring because Miyazaki hates spellcasters.
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>>172933870
Only the ones that basically every build uses at least one of.
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>>172933892
>Just go for the head.

>G O

>F O R

>T H E

>H E A D

NIGGA IF I HADN'T TRIED THAT LIKE 20 FUCKING TIMES
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>>172933292

What else would you use to kill him? A toothpick? It's a dragon man, use a dragon killing weapon.
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>>172931880

If you don't want to claw you can rebind the buttons.
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>>172933870
I have only seen Havel, Cloranthy, Rofap and Steel Protection as +3
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>>172933519
>slower
>more conspicuous telegraph
>only better if you hit with both the beam and the sword
If you just tap the cast button, it's exactly as fast as Soul Greatsword and has the exact same telegraph. It's only if you hold the cast button for a bit that it's different.
Also, if you use it exactly as you would Soul Greatsword, hitting them with the blade means hitting them with the beam anyway.
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>>172933910
And Evil Eye for whatever reason.
I'd rather see a life Ring +4
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>>172933945
Git gud in that case. I did him with a CKGS
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Rate the dlc boss music

Demons 7/10
Spear 3/10
Midir 5/10
Gael 9.5/10
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>>172934115
Midir was good and Gael was great. Don't really remember the others
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Here's the link. I'm sorry for my bad sentdance structure

https://www.reddit.com/user/Havel_the_rook
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>>172934115

The only one i kinda remember is Midir's in the second phase, so Midir's>Everyone else
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>>172933990
yea except its too short to roll catch unless the idiot rolls straight backward, and even then most times the beam misses anyway. im pretty fucking disappointed in it
>>172934115
dont remember any of them /10
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>>172934172
Midir's first phase is basically ambiance
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>invade at SL125 range
>hit host once
>instakilled for ~300ish HP
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>>172933776

but if I hit his head he bites me anon
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>>172933292
use yhorms
best damage in the game and the swings hit the head with ease

great for gael too
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>yfw the mad king was not mad
>he was just against Gwyn's bullshit
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>>172934158
>on phone
>still manages to say 'sentdance'
nice la
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>>172934158
Forgot image

Also
>>172933261
See>>172934158
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>>172934115
demons - 7
spear - I didn't even pay attention to it
Midir - 8
Gael - 9
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>>172934115
Gael 9/10
Midir 9/10
I don't remember the others.

Those couple of bars in Midir's music where it's just strings - every time I do that fight Midir always manages to be doing something imposing like charging or standing on his hind legs and spewing fire everywhere. Gives me chills every time.
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>>172934260
Doesn't he lunge to bite?
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>>172934260

If you are not trying to stay in front of Midir and you don't hit only his head you've already lost.
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How was bleed affected from the DLC patch? is it a bad idea to run hollow infusion on bleed weapons now?

i want to run ringed city on my ng4 character and i don't want my asshole to be the only thing to be bleeding, so im thinking of using a hollow barbed straight, but if i want the bleed to be procing, maybe i should go for bleed infuse instead?
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>>172934309
I don't have autocorrect on no buly pls ily
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lorewise what are miracles, compared to sorcery? Sorcery seems to be just magic being used, bu miracles are magic aswell, only cast by reading bible stories? with miracles being mostly healing and lightning based does this mean the gods in the stories are actually gwyn and friends?
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>>172934305
>mad king was not mad
He literally turned himself a mutantdragon cradling a non-existant baby
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>>172934242
>SL125 range
>All these hosts and phantoms with sub-27 Vig
Makes you think
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>>172933507
Fucked if I know. Midir just has a really simple and predictable moveset.

>>172933539
Yeah, NG.
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>>172934319
>>172934332
Spear is literally a bell ringing
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>>172933043
Pls respond
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>>172934397
That's right. Most non-offensive miracles come from the Way of White, while lightning spells come from the Warriors of Sunlight who worship the Firstborn.
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>>172931880
Steam controller my dude
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>>172934363
Carthus rouge was nerfed, but not bleed itself iirc.
The only thing it's good against is the bats though, I used GWTB against them and had to use BKGA against everything else, NG++.
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>>172934469
>6500 rubles
no thanks
>>
I was really hoping there would be added dialog for Karla after finding Zullies stuff, kinda like with Yuria after meeting Elfriede. I mean Zullie IS Karla's mom, isnt she? They could have done so much more with Karla in general.
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Anyone here have a spare ringed k***ht leggings on PC they could be a bro and drop?
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>>172933870
Only the useful ones.

>life
>chloranthy
>favor
>havel
>wolf
>steel

And then both serpent rings and the evil eye ring for some reason.
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>>172934469
keking pretty hard right now, thanks
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>tfw vulnerable to nostalgia and SoC is still my favorite boss of the series
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>>172934403
I'm talking about the crucifix pygmy king, not oceiros
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>>172934482
>Carthus rouge was nerfed
How hard?
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>>172933292
Paired UGS. You have very long windows to hit him so Ultras are no problem, and the high defence probably favours bigger weapons because of the def formula.
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>>172934416
>125
>27vig
37 or even 44 is mandatory if you go that high
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>>172934541
blyaaaaaaaa
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I mean I guess it was his fault for just standing there, but hey this felt good.
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>>172934363
base bleed on weapons was nerfed, as was rouge bonus, so its much harder to inflict bleed most of the the time. id say hollow builds are dead, which makes me sad since ive been running bleed builds for years now
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>>172934541
Meh got it on a sale for half price and free shit.
I know how to use my shekels
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>Ringed city doesn't have credits but the games original credit song changes to a new one for beating ringed city

But why tho?
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>>172934589
come to mauseloum lookout bonfire
pass dsg, drop your sign
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>>172934737
you realize that if you hit it intantly r1 combos into both weapon arts
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>>172934770
Why lie though
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>>172934115
didn't really care for any other than gaels who was 10/10 and tied for goatest soulsborne track with "The First Hunter"
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>>172934770
there are ringed city credits in the endgame credits
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>>172934627
>>172934482
Carthus rouge WAS bleed, it was the only thing making bleed decent outside of specific PvE gimmicks.
Carthus Rouge was crippled from 45 to 20 build up, so Bleed just isn't viable as a primary build anymore.
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>>172934678
Not to mention how they are more likely to get him into a riposte state
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>>172934803
thxbby
>>
Can I stack storyteller WA with poison or toxic?
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>>172934883
Gascoignes track is far superior though
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>>172934737
Goddammit I wanna make a Guan Yu cosplay but have no idea what to use
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>>172934115
>Demon Prince
7/10
>Spear
who cares
>Midir
8.5/10
>Gael
9/10
>>
What's some good stats and weapons for a quality pyromancer Build?
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>>172935039
sorry for the seed
just wanted some action
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>decide to kill soc after beating both dlcs
>head over to lothric castle
>decide to kill the outrider knight at the double dragon bridge before dragonslayer armor
>rapes my ass 7 times
>give up and just continue with the base game

fuck these retarded niggers
>>
>spears
>only boss literally nobody likes doing
>only boss you can do indefinitely
Thanks From
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Anyone tried Repeating Crossbow with splintering bolts?
It sounds hilarious in theory but I'm pretty sure repeating is just unsalvagable shit.
>>
>>172934856
I know that I can get the R1 > Weaponart > R2 combo off, is that what you mean?
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>>172934314
>coming to 4chan to ask for help with an internet argument
That's pathetic.
Here, just tell him the changes made hurt both PvP and PvE.
Most enemies aren't properly balanced around every build and online interaction. Ember allows you to survive moves that should always be OHKOs such as some grabs, estus is so fast you can sip between some enemies recovery and walking while usong it allows you to avoid backstabs, even from PvE enemies.
Spell and armor usefulness is all over the place PvE wise. Pyros get vestiges and their rings early. Sorcerers take longer and miracles are even worse. Stake is the only PvE usable miracle outside heals and the huge lack of good elemental weapons since infusions are awful makes running those builds awful.
TRC is only further proof of that as a raw DSA ends up being the best way to take down Midir for almost every single build.

I could go on for a lot longer, make your own arguments dumbass
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>makes the best location for hosting FCs
>can't summon in the area
Memezaki did it again!
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>>172934689
Its not even that but even with rings its astounding how many embered hosts barely break 1100 HP
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>>172935235
BUT I THOUGHT GAIJIN WANT BOSS INVASION??
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>>172935237
its great for catching denial retards in ganks that just roll away forever while 3 phantoms run after you
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>>172934960
whats fucked up was how much bleed build up that mound maker was doing with a damn flamburger.
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>>172935235
I like ganking them
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>>172935359
You can even take whites/golds into the arena if you havent triggered Gael

Fuck that Ledo armour petition, make the desert a red sign location instead
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>>172935432
As Spear I actually enjoy "ganks" more than solo Hosts.
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>>172935452
>>172935359
>entire ashen wasteland
>can't fight club in it
Damn son it hurts to live
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>beat midir only because he decided to do the really slow sweeping attack 5 times in a row

heh
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>>172935505
especially when you earn two ornaments if they have 2 phantoms or more
>>
>new DLC
>may as well try some pvp
>gank squad everywhere
WHY DOES EVERYONE HAVE 3 FUCKING PHANTOMS
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>>172935653
Also the poise and defense buff just makes you feel like a boss.
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Hey guys pyro or str fth next?
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>>172935723
>>
which one of you faggots was deidrich or something
fuck you that was awesome
>>
>>172935703
So they can say they beat it?
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>>172935703
To try and compensate for lack of skill
Bosses become hilariously tedious with 3 phantoms so rest easy that even if you die, they'll die to the boss
>>
>>172935653
You can even get 3 if there are 3 summons and you manage to beat them all
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>>172935745
0-3 pyro
4-7 str fth
8-9 pure pyro
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>>172935764
>deidrich
Still the dickass thief ?
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>Havent played in over a year
>Trying to get back into PVP
>Dual greatswords everywhere
T-Thanks Iron Pineapple
>>
>>172935745
There's only one answer
>>
>>172935703
I solo'd the whole thing at sl97, unembered though because i didnt want to pvp against anything other than the npc invaders. Fuck you.
>>
>>172935841
nah
helicopter splitleaf with DMB
Got me in one combo
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I need some help, I'm bad at this. How do I do the Saint of War justice?
>>172935197
>a quality pyromancer Build?
you mean 40/40/40/40? You'll either be way overleveled and find noone or shit at everything. I don't get why you fucks try and decide on a stat spread and picking weapons based on that instead of seeing what you want to use and building around that.
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>>172935810
i couldn't beat all four yet but it's nice to know
also which one of you was this ?
>>
>>172932307
Yeah they definitely wisened up to the playstyle by DaS 3.
>>
>>172935753
Try rosp+3 it actually works for Spears due to the way the defense buff works.
Blue Tearstone is fun too.
>>
>hit someone with 600 AR
>150 damage
??? Was he hacking or did I miss something?
>>
>>172928406
Demon Prince: About 5, then I summoned Gael.
Spears: First try
Midir:
>implying I'm going to fight the worst boss for a katana or dumb spell
Gael: Third or forth.
>>
>lose one match
>instant silver
Didn't even know I could derank
muh k/d is all ruined now
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Why cant FROM just take their time and release all the cut content in a later date? Whats the point of holding it back? Might as well throw it all in now that the game is officially done, no?
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>>172936014
i already have it

I need to learn how to use the Splitleaf Greatsword, i need some kind of crowd-control when fightning multiple opponents. Any FCs going so that i can practise ?
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>>172935703
The DLC also has the answer to the gank squad problem

The Preacher's Right Arm and the DUGS

Let the feast begin anon.
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>>172936123
They're moving on, anon
No more souls

Let's be honest here they're just too lazy
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>>172935913
Everyone was using it before his video. The piece of shit weapon is just too easy to win with at this point
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>>172935924
How would i spec into faith?
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>upgrade Demon's Scar
>can't hit anything
>180damage
>no combos
>everything with HA destroy me, especially hammers
>lose nonstop in invasions
>equip Estoc for arena
>15 loses in row against sabres, katanas and all ha weapons
>lost gold

Help. I think HA weapons turned me retarded and I can't use anything without HA now. What the deal with Demon's Scar? It's CS, alpha and omega of DS3 pvp right? Why it's not work? How to play against HA weapons? Hell I even lose using longsword against Gotthard without any chances. And new helicopter halbred is unstoppable.
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>>172935952
Mostly I want to use quality with a bit of faith and int for the onyx blade and such. How should I go about that. Maybe a pyro knight is a better name and would make more sense. Advice?
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>>172936265
Several options
First choice, do you want to use offensive miracles as a nuke or as a ranged alt option
This means picking 60 or 40 Fth
Att should be 24 or 30
Physical stats can range from weapon base to 27 Str, or 40 Str
Vig and End to taste
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Oh baby, look at this AR at 40str
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>>172931880
I have a pseudo fighting game stance for my right hand when free-aiming with a PS3 controller. My index finger is for circle/triangle (b/y) and middle finger presses the shoulder buttons. Thus way my thumb can stay on camera duty.

That said, I used mouse and keyboard for DaS 2. But that game's keybinding customizations were miles better for PC than 3's. You can't get double click for strong attack in 3 because Kekazaki is stupid and threw out everything that was good in DaS 2.
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>>172935505
Not my ganks. We are organised fire surge/crossbow fags, so their infinite poise is pointless.
5 ragequits and counting
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>>172936341
are you using pryomancies with it
if y, youre using the wrong shit
if n, youre an idiot
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>>172928406
>Prince
7 tries
>Spear
6 tries
>Midir
~20 tries
>Gael
~20 tries
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I'm doing an SL 1 run and am stuck on demon prince.
He is such a dmg sponge, plz give tips
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>>172936390
Using them as nuke sounds like a fun time
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>>172936148
No fcs for yurop
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>>172936552
Just stop. Demons are the easiest Boss in the DLC (Besides Spear if you get an idiot)
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>>172936571
Just remember to use a canvas talisman
Get in close and bait the talisman WA cast
~1000 damage in melee
Dont forget the new miracle for a ~300 damage fast ranged spell
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>>172936481
>are you using pryomancies with it
Oh course. I never able to "combo" anything. Without Parting Flame BF don't brake HA. This thing has range of dagger. Post webms
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>ds1 intro pointedly states dark cannot exist without fire
>series goes on to treat fire and dark as opposing forces

Miyazaki is a hack
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>>172936381
>Advice?
Yeah, keep levelling up or forget about it.
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>>172936597
I could Start one up for you guys if people have interest.
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>Starting TRC removes Gael's sign from AoA
I didnt even encounter his boss form yet in this run
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>>172936664
For the lightning bow miracle is it important to have it at 60faith or is 40faith enough ?
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>>172936641
Please, I did him on my first try on my str character, but he takes ages on sl1 and one shots me.
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>>172935618

All his attacks are really slow sweeping attacks.
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>>172936381
Just go base Dex, 27 Str, and spec for pyro
Or make like Drake and go SL200+
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>>172936664
This sounds like fun. Any preferred melee weapons?
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>>172936815
what weapon are you using?
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>>172934397
All spells are "soul arts".
Pyromancy is easiest to enact as it's a primal energy that takes form of the first flame that all life stemmed from.
Sorceries are manipulations of souls.
Hexes are manipulations of humanity or the dark souls.
Miracles are, as I interpret it, a manipulation of the lingering energies of the Lord Souls, the remnant powers of the gods whose congregation may harvest and manipulate their energies via faith.
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>>172936826
Preach it.
Midir is really easy to read, he just does retarded amount of damage while having bloated HP and defense.
A single mistake can fuck you over real hard.
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>>172928406

I played the DLC on NG as level 120 using the profaned GS.
>Prince: 2 tries
>Spears: 2 tries
(First was DUGS memery and the guy actually apologized on Steam because he could probably see that it was my first pvp match in half a year)
>Midir: 6 tries
>Gael: 4 tries
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>>172936889
Dragonslayer's Axe
The 2 small demons are not the problem, they die fast enough.
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>>172936552
The toxic demon will generally stay away from you and spam the easily avoidable toxic line. attack the dude on fire, aim for the head a lot. this isn't like O&S where the damage dealt to the one you kill second is wasted, you need to kill both anyway and every bit counts. you can stagger the prince out of the meteor charge
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>>172936750
It can work at 40 Fth, unlike Sunlight Spear the FP/shot ratio is still worth it even with the lower damage.
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>>172936670
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMvGRD5Lrqg
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>>172936874
LKGS with Lightning Blade
Earth Seeker
For lower physical stats use the Dragonslayer Axe or Wolnirs Holy Sword
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>>172936985
>attack the dude on fire
This is a bad idea
I'd rather have the laser prince than the FIREBALL FUCKING EVERYWHERE prince.
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>>172936874
>>172937053
Also the Drakeblood GS with either LB or DMB
The new Crucifix with Dark Blade
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>>172936874
the screamer halberd with darkblade owns
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>>172936990
You saved my entire life
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Is DS3 Patches the same as DS1? Did he make it to the end?
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>>172937040
This video is pure trash and he fighting against retards. Do you really use Demon's Scar or just meming?
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>>172929961
>>172929961
>>172929961
Anyone?
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>>172936957
i think it's better to use the Flamberge instead. they bleed for some reason and it deals a lot of physical damage, DSA seems not great for DLC bosses
you can onehand it with 2 rings and put War Banner in the offhand for extra damage or offhand it and put Mail Breaker and Light Crossbow in the right hand for ripostes and to do a little damage/build up bleed when they're both in melee mode and you run away from them
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>>172937193

Who the fuck knows
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>>172936571
mong
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>>172936815
>sl1 and one shots me
What a surprise.
If you're doing sl1 with +10 allowed, use 2h raw dsa and pine resins, with dex, flynn, lloyd sword and lightning clutch rings.
It's probably most optimal for sl1, makes bosses not so spongy.
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>>172937203
you spent 3 minutes watching a 17 minute video that explains pretty much all of it, congrats
although i like using flame fan with it, thats pretty much all there is to add
you sound like the impatient type that tries to trade with big weapons, either youre just playing wrong your stats are all wrong
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>>172937193
Yeah it's the same.
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>>172937131
No, they pass the fire back and forth. You only need to be looking at the name of who you kill first
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Best SL to Church covenant with?
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>>172937131

Just stagger him out of the fireballs.
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>>172928406
>Demon Prince
3 attempts
>Spears
1 attempt - We both died at the same time making it a draw kinda
>Midir
~10 attempts
>Gael
6 attempts
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>>172936013
If they'd really wisened up they'd support it properly by allowing their quick turning animation to be interrupted by the roll input.
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>>172937495
100-125
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>>172937053
>>172937140
>>172937158
Wonderful. What would the most optimal starting class be?
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>>172937442
So the bastard managed to go on for so long without becoming hollow because he just was a nihilist? That's pretty rad.
>>
Kinda want to switch to dex/int because pure dex weapons are surprisingly boring, slow, and unflashy after all these nerfs, and at least friede's is rather fancy. Seriously they're even more plain than straight swords. But Friede's just looks wrong on a male character, for some reason.
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>>172937193
who fucking knows, when timeline related shit doesn't make sense remember time is distorted aka it's fucking magic.
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>>172937391
>you sound like the impatient type that tries to trade with big weapons, either youre just playing wrong your stats are all wrong
Maybe. But I can kill them using dagger, sabre/ccs, GFS, katana. What is your tactic against full poise helicopter halberd user for example?
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>>172937698
>ever making male characters
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Yuria photoshoot is out boys.
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The woman that tells you to kill Mirin says that directly before the church, there's a tower that was built to honor the knights, and that behind the statue with no arms (i assume that means weapons) is a shrine.

Don't tell me exactly where it is, but is this at least the right building? I assume she's talking about this """tower""" since there's black knight statues in here. However, i've been searching for at least an hour on this level, the level below where you find the miracle behind the illusory wall, the levels above where the bonfire is, etc. and i just can't find a single statue that doesn't hold weapons.

Is this the right fucking building? Am i actually retarded? This doesn't even sound like its supposed to be hard to find.
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>>172937654

His purpose in life just seemed to be pranking people but with nobody left alive his purpose went to shit and he began hollowing in TRC. The purging monument helped him avoid this, maybe he goes to TRC at the end of every age and avoids dodging the hollowing bullet this exact same way.
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>>172937654
As long you have a purpose you won't Hollow, Patches made fucking people over his purpose.
Thats why he hollowed around the time of TRC: most people are already dead or mindless hollows so nobody left to fuck over.
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>>172937647
Cleric or Knight depending on stat spread
Fuck around in mugen for a bit, just mention it if you have further questions
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>>172937773
Check the elevator again friendo
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>>172937743
make them angry with fire surge until they fuck up and eat vestiges
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>>172937264
>>172937731
Seeing how he speaks about the greed of man in every age, it's probably him. But him being the same from other games is unlikely
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>>172937773

You're in the right place yes.
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>>172937773
Right building. Hint: try the elevator [/spolier]
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>>172928406
Demon prince: 6th
Spears: 2nd
Midir: too manyth
Gael: 1st
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>>172937919
why the hell would someone do this?
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Good splitleaf fashion?
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>>172937773
Its close to gywns statue
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>>172937760
I make male characters because that way I don't have to spend three hours trying to make them pretty then get in game and figure out their nose is too big or their skin shade is off in better lighting then feeling the strong autistic urge to start all over.
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>>172937919
>that pic
Jesus fucking christ
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>>172937040
Stylish, desu.
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>>172937903
It's at least him from main timeline. You can summon him for spears fight afterwards, he's in black leather armour, but with spitleaf/curse ward, same as lapp.
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>>172937919
What am I looking at exactly?
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>>172937827
>Patches made fucking people over his purpose.
I liked how it turns out he was doing that just to mess with greedy people instead of being moved by pure greed himself. His parting words to you make me wonder if he himself was a cleric in the past.
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>>172937919
Why
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>invaded by a bloodshade
>desert sorceress set, dual greatswords
>dies in two hits from Vordt's Greathammer
I thought this 'covenant was dead, felt nice to flatten one of them for old times sake.

Stranger was that a blue spawned a few seconds after the invader had dissappeared and kind of hanged around for a while before returning home.
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>>172938009
Black Iron Helmet
Millwood chest
Morne Gauntlets
Faraam boots
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>>172938094
>cleric discovers the greed and corruption of the higher ups in the church
>lays a trap for them
the noble beginnings of a total dickhead
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>>172937193

It's the same guy from DkS1. However don't ask me what that Pate bullshit in DkS2 was. Maybe his brother. At the time DkS2 was made it was just meant as le ebin reincarnation because everything is a reincarnation of something from 1 in that game.
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>use straight sword through the whole game
>completely destroy the game including both DLCs
>try a second playthrough with a greatsword
>small enemies manages to get hits in
>bosses swing hits you if you make a single mistake
>action queue fucks you half the time
>everything has poise
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>>172937863
>>172937905
>>172937917
>>172938034

I'm about to end myself. I jumped of the elevator to the hidden path that leads to the cloranthe ring+3 like 50 times before, but i NEVER SAW THAT THERES ACTUALLY STAIRS LEADING DOWN TO THE LEFT TOO AAAAAAAAH
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>>172938240
This desu but I played the entire game using the Dark Sword
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Hey guys, I haven't played in about 3 months. Anything change in terms of balancing?

Is Faith good now?
Is Magic good now?
Does poise work now?
Are strength weapons good now?

Also those little sprites on the bonfire Travel menu represents multiplayer population, right?
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>>172938240
stop facefucking everything
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>>172938240
Once you get the timing down, greatswords are generally a little better. Definitely not as scrubby though.

Try a dex build sometime and know true despair. No damage and stuns like greatsword, worse speed and damage than straight swords, no poise at all. It's basically like flailing a stick at them.
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>>172931581
>One of which is the hardest in the series
Nigger, are you talking about Friede? Because she's not hardest boss at all, especially if you summon phantoms.
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>>172938370

No
no
no
They were always good you cuck shit
Yes
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>some guy on twitch has 600+ viewers
>can't even beat ng demon prince with 40vig after hours of trying

why are some people just garbage at video games?
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>>172938370
>Is Faith good now?
They just buffed it slightly, will be nerfed now.
>Is Magic good now?
No, it's still awful.
>Does poise work now?
Yes.
>Are strength weapons good now?
Strength weapons are the best in the game. Qualtiy is still good. Dex is worthless dogshit.
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Whoever made this list, it's nice of you to do this. However there are some major issues with it.

* Aquamarine Dagger is better than Corvian Greatknife in every way. It has longer range, a better moveset and can't be parried.
* Dark Sword doesn't get good AR anymore compared to other straight swords and has non-existant R2s.
* Pontiff Knight Curved Sword isn't good enough to compete with 'top tier' stuff. INT requirement is also a significant downside.
* Demon's Scar isn't good at all. It has low AR even with high INT/FTH, fire damage which is easily resisted and a horrible spell buff.
* Lothric Knight Long Spear is completely outclassed by Ringed Knight Spear and has no reason to be higher than Great Lance.
* All katanas need to be lowered a tier. Running attacks are impossible to land on anyone not braindead now.
* Gael's Greatsword doesn't get good AR and all weapon skill attacks are easily punishable with a backstab. Mid tier at best.
* Splitleaf Greatsword is NOT better than Crucifix (stunlock) or Red Hilted (perseverance + thrust damage).
* The entire UGS category needs changed around because of the recent infusion change.
* Gotthard's Twinswords is not the best paired weapon anymore.
* Paired Greatswords and Door Shields need to be above the other twin weapons, they're very strong right now.
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>>172938247
You know you rike it desu
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>>172938416
She's not one of the hardest bosses*
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>>172938370
>Is Faith good now?
Decent with new miracle
>Is Magic good now?
Meh.
>Does poise work now?
Read fucking wiki or something, it still works as part of ha.
>Are strength weapons good now?
Yes. 66str probably is meta now.
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>>172938238
That's my headcanon for now, he got fed up and started bullshitting people even if there is still some good in him deep down. And he made it through god knows how many ages, truly the coolest guy.
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>>172938370
>Is Faith good now?
It got some extra toys. Not great but bareable
>Is Magic good now?
Somewhat
>Does poise work now?
It does, but not like in 1 or 2. It only works when you use big weapons, and then it works fantastically
>Are strength weapons good now?
The best
>>
Would dark souls 3 be an incredibly easy game if they didn't purpously cripple your controls and give enemies nonsense attack patterns?
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>>172938240
GS are easy mode. Everything with hyper armor is easy mode. Just 2HR1 things.
>>
So what are the rings that don't actually work in PvP?

The ones that reduce your defence are no go as well, like the chain and clutch rings right?
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>>172938247
same here desu
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>>172937862
How would a 40/40 str fth build be? Is it worth it for the dragonslayer greataxe?
>>
Does anyone on PS4 have a spare Sage Ring +2, or if not, could someone help me mule one over? I really don't want to have to run into NG+2 for it.
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>>172938527
>Does poise work now?
>It does, but not like in 1 or 2. It only works when you use big weapons, and then it works fantastically

Well I got curious because I noticed I was tanking some hits when 2handing the mace, which I never noticed before.
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>>172938502
He honestly needs to move all the curved swords down a tier at least,
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>>172938502
Splitleaf Greatsword can kill you like any other combo wombo p2w DLC weapons
>>
Would anyone on PS4 be willing to drop a Pestilent Mercury scroll for me?

Pretty please...
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>>172938625
That would work, i'm currently running a 40/40 Earthseeker build myself.
Its fun to deal good damage in melee with the support that Faith brings
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>>172938724
should we tell him
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>>172938247
Same here but in reverse. Didn't see the cloranthy path until I died to Mimir for the 3rd time.
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>>172938502
Why did you remove preacher arm?
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>>172938596
>The ones that reduce your defence are no go as well, like the chain and clutch rings right?
Nope. Chain is good for twinking, below 23 vig it actually gives you more ehp.
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>>172938781
nah
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>>172938489
>estus flask +5
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>>172938724
Anon...I'm so sorry
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>>172938498
>main character is str/fth with some pyro
>secondary character is dex/int spellthief meme build

Guess which one is easiest.
Then guess which one is the most fun.
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Can the Frayed bully WA be parried?
Got a Spear boss who spammed that weebslash and nothing but that weebslash just now
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Someone posted anons tier list on reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/635vqr/first_iteration_of_the_new_tier_list/

>those comments
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>>172938724
I'll trade you it for a slab.
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>>172938870
Str/fth for both.
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>>172937871
Not that guy but noice
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>>172938891
Yeah after googling I found out you can't drop spells.

But if you would he Willing to use that spell to beat Midir with me,I'd gladly give you a slab once he's dead. What do you say?
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>>172938502
>spitleaf has 1300 damage meme combo
>not better than crucifix's like 700 top damage

>gaels is easily punishable
you must be shit

and sellswords was always a better paired weapon than gotthards
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>>172938972
>>172938972
>Drop a slab
Anon....
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>>172938972
You can't drop slabs either lmao I was just fucking with you
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>>172938883
Because it's bad list. Try to use estoc or small curved swords
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>>172939034
Fuck me. You can't drop them either?
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>>172939080
Nope, you'd have to accept someones +4/+9 and slab that, then return it to "trade" a slab
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>>172938489
Probably just used to playing normal games. Aka, games with functioning controls.
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>>172938982
I'm better at the game than you. Crucifix has a 100% to 0% combo with L2->R2, assuming you don't get bad RNG.

I don't use Gael's because it's overrated trash. Everyone who uses it can't outtrade me or gets backstabbed by me.
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>>172939051
I'll give you something else if you wanted. Just name it. How about a Twin Princes Greatsword+5?
>>
>tfw I got to Gael without encountering a single NPC
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>>172939181
Don't need one. Do you have a +2 Sage Ring though? I do need one on this character.
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>>172939149
>Crucifix has a 100% to 0% combo with L2->R2, assuming you don't get bad RNG.
What did he mean by this
>spitleaf has 1300 damage meme combo
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>>172934115
Demons - Can't remember
Spear - It had one?
Gael - 8/10
Midir - 9/10
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>>172939251
Hold on ill check.
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>>172939183
How?
Stone humped hag and r/atheism pygmy are right by bonfires.
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>>172939149
>Everyone who uses it can't outtrade me or gets backstabbed by me.
because they're bad
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>>172939149
> assuming you don't get bad RNG.
ive been playing with it all day. even IF you get the 1/3 chance it doesnt do anything near 100% even at 60/60 stf/fth
>>
>imma make a nice and cold and cam painting that will make a nice home for someone

This is such a shit closure. Why would anyone give her the Dark Pigment? I didnt fight through this DLC just to throw every thing away. I'll just fucking kindle the first flame if I wanted to repeat shit and I didn't even do that.
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>>172939353
Whatever happen to that pygmy?
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>>172939353
I was busy running from flying orphans and meme ghosts
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>>172939501
He's quite the furtive fellow isn't he?
So easily forgotten.
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>>172939474
What do you mean? It continues the plotline from AoA and wraps things up nicely
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>>172939251
>>172939332
Hey dude. I can get the sage ring+2 since I have the normal sage ring. Just give me a few minutes to get it,okay?
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>>172939631
Sure. I'll put my sign near Midir's fog. Password is dsg. Fair warning though, I'm really fucking squishy on this build, so you'll have to be the one distracting him. I can distract him with spells and whatnot for a while, but once I run out of juice it's all on you since I only have Dark and Fire infused weapons.
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>>172939474
I wish you could absorb the dark pigment and rescue the dark soul.

Why would anyone care about some shitty painted world full of monsters that's going to rot itself someday?
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>>172938883
Good, now they can "improve it" and we can whine how they stole it.

It would be better if the creator added a few lines under every weapon, explaining the logic and factors behind the placement to the unenlightened.
>>
>>172939631
>>172939694
Wait nevermind, I do have a Crystal infused Longsword. The point still stands that I'll be doing shit for damage once I run out of spells though.
>>
>host summons 3 phantoms including me
>other 2 die in phase 1 and 2
>6+ minutes later we're whittling down the boss
>I die at the last sliver of health

I mean I know it's my fault but I hate being cucked out of my ember like that
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>>172930653
should mention that like all cgs, exiled has r1 into jump attack. more damage output on normal r1s that way
>>
Sister Friede is cute.
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>>172938950
Correct.
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>Try to use Millwood greatbow on Midir without much conviction
>It's actually amazing
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>>172939938
Oh yeah that works really Well on him. Only his autistic flailing charge ad lazor are a danger to that.
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>>172939060
The creator was probably thinking per tier per weapon, which is why there are any weapons beyond ugs and ss above mid tier.
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Gimme the ring first bruh. I'll be able to gas him quicker that way.
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>~1 year post-release
>People still chug at Pontiff duels
>Its always edy fallen knights with either a katana or Friede WA spam
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>>172938642
There is a guide out there saying specifically what happens. The gist of it is that you regain 80% of your poise when attacking and 100% when using the skill, so with high enough poise you can just trade forever. Kind of like rally, but manlier
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GIVE MY NEW PYRO BUILD A NAME BOYOS
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>>172940429
Heats Flamesman
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>>172928406

I don't remember the all of the attempts, but I remember the time well enough.


Demon Prince: 15 minutes, 10 or so attempts.
Spear: 20 minutes. I didn't realize Judicator Argo always an heroed, so I wasted time and health instead of nuking the guardian.
Gael: Maybe half an hour. I'd always die in phase 3.
Midir: Two+ hours. I spent too long fighting him like a Souls boss and not like an Elder Dragon.

On my subsequent playthroughs, it's been nice to see how much I've improved. I'm at the point where I can clear Midir in one attempt with most of my heals left.
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>>172940429
Check my mixtape
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>>172940429
>start with da pyro glove
>vape
>collect winnings
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Jesus Christ. I didn't even notice I had 9 left.

I really pays playing aggressive against Gael.
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>>172940429
AAFUCKITHURTSAAA
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It's always better to dress for fashion rather than poise right
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>>172940603
Don't mock me so, Anon.
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>>172940336
>doing fallen knight cosplay
>bastard sword w/ hawkwood shield and offhand shortsword
>everyone thinks I'm a scrub because fallen knight
>parry the shit out of them
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>>172940687
only if you're a katana babby
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>>172940687
poise IS fashion
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>>172938502
Disagree heavily.
Aquamarine dagger depends on the weapon art heavily. The moveset is far slower and worse at roll catching.
Dark sword still has good range and slightly better AR. You don't really need R2s if you can rollcatch with delayed R1s just the same.
The INT req on PKCS is almost negligible. Speed and range are still great for it.
Somewhat agree on demons scar. There are def. better options for pyros.
RKS is overrated heavily imo; little AR, gimmicky WA. LKLS is a bit slow, but has good range, damage and a usable WA. Definitely far better than great lance, dunno what you're on.
Katanas weren't nerfed. They're still neutralised by any shield, but if WP was top tier before, it is now, too.
Gaels gets decent AR, though decidedly lower than BKS. WA being punishable doesn't matter if you confirm off an R1 as you should. WA R2 is useless, but so what.
Splitleaf is clearly better than Crucifix, both in WA, combo potential with WA, pure damage and stat efficiency, no contest. Red Hilted is basically a different weapon imo; I personally would favour RHH but that might just be my preference.
UGS look somewhat decent to me...? Not too sure, don't use them much.
Gotthards is 100% the best paired weapon. The range and AR alone make it so, unparriable WA and rolling L1 are a bonus. All other paired weapons struggle heavily to hit people, be it because of range (twinblades), speed (UGS) or both (Axes).
Paired UGS are easily dodged. L1s are slow and rollable; normal R1s are literally UGS R1s and just as easy to dodge. WA has too long a windup. Most people apparently mash into them like the braindead monkeys they are, that doesn't make them good.
Doors are decent weapons and deserve a spot in high, but they're still somewhat gimmicky. Heavily lose out to high stab shields, the WA doesn't exactly have amazing tracking and shield pierce weapons or CCS with horse hoof/knightslayers fare very well.
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The first time Gael does his *teleports behind you* I thought the game's draw distance got fucked.
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>>172940725
>Bastard sword
>Hawkwood shield
Patrician taste there Fallen K***ht
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>>172928406
Demon prince: 3 attempts
Spears: 1 attempt
Midir: 4 attempts
Gael: 1 attempt
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>>172940871

Has ANYONE gotten hit by his teleport attack? Even first timers avoid that shit
>>
Scrub at using the build making tools here, can someone give me some advice on stat allotment for an archery build?
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>Everytime Midir kills me my game crashes for some reason

As if this fight wasn't already dumb enough
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>>172940965
>Archery build
Interesting, regular bows or Greatbows?
For regular you'd probably want high dex with base str for a back-up
>>
>>172940965
40/40, comp bow, stay below 30% and roll shot all day. Not much more to it.
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How do I find my save file?
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>>172941109
right here *unzips CE*
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>>172941067
I was challenged to use bows with the only melee exception being a dagger.

>>172941074
For PvE?
>>
>>172940965
40STR millwood 40Faith Lightning bow
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>>172941109
user folder, appdata, roaming, darksouls3
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>>172940945
I was surprised and in the middle of buffing. Plus, I assumed it was the game being buggy because I had encountered nonsense like this before.
>>
>>172941196
i assumed pvp
why make a build for pve? pick a bow and level up stats that give you damage, not much to plan if you don't follow a levelcap or sth
>>
yo how do I change character starting class with the latest CE table
>>
>>172928406
Demon Prince: 1 attempt
Spears: 1 attempt
Midir: 3 attempts
Gael: 2 attempts

regular NG, though. SL65
>>
>>172940603
What is the blood of the dark soul item icon supposed to show?
>>
>>172940870
paired ugs weapon art has a body bump extremely early in its animation if you're close up; makes it quite easy to hit, but i think the WA damage is very underwhelming anyway

all first hits in other paired weapons' WA are unparriable (hammers hammers and curveds - not sure about axes) as well as many other weapons, so i dont think its really a main selling point
>>
>>172929287

>dlc primordial serpent has scale type skin on their body, it seems
Hmm
>>
Are you able to add spells to your inventory with CE? Asking for a meme
>>
>It's a "Waifufag avatar acts like a cunt" episode
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>>172940975
You better make some backups in case your save gets corrupted anon
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>>172941878
you can swap
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this dragon boss has like trillion hp in ng+
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>>172941878
Itemswap an item you dropped with a spell -> profit
>>
Why are there people who clearly have never played the game before sporting endgame dlc weapons at sl 20? am i missing something?
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Somebody better make that new thread before I PARTAKE
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>>172941981
Can you change your name with it too or no?
>>
>>172941904
>stalking people's profiles for any reason other than to discover where laggers are from
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>>172935073
Gascoigne's theme gets ruined by the metal riff at the end. Completely out of place and rather generic. Same reason why I dislike Orphan's theme(other than it not fitting the fight)
>>
>>172928406
Demon Prince: 4
Halflight: 1
Midir: 5
Gael: 15 ?
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>>172940725
>fallen knight with hawkwood shield
very niceu, anon-chan. I wonder though if the executioner's greatsword would fit the aesthetic better. It has the same moveset too, iirc
>>
>want to use gael's beard
>don't want to get bunned
fuck
>>
>>172942145
https://pastebin.com/C4EHxFhq
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>>172942231
>>172940873
I'm basing it off the concept art that an anon posted a while back, and trying to approximate the cut twin weapon they would have used. I would be using longsword/bandit knife like the fallen knight NPC outside the cathedral, but that just seems bad.
>>
>>172942256
It won't bun you.
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>>172941785
Ah, I wasn't aware of the bump, ty.
WA being unparriable isn't an exclusive point for Gotthards, that's true; included it bc it's still a desirable trait in general and thus in part justifies the high placing.
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>>172942348
It's not cut, it was remodeled into gotthard's. that style would've been perfect for you. another thing that would be great is gsoj's scabbard, but the weapon itself wouldn't
>>
I want a second weapon as a back up for use with DUALS WIELDS greatswords.

I kinda wanna do a whip. What would be a good idea though? Regular 40/40 build.
>>
>>172942158
>Implying I'm stalking
>>
>>172942313
Oh great, i have no idea where to even start with that. Ill try to find a guide or something.
Thank you
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>>172942370
huh really?
>>
>>172931493
CLUB

CLUB, NIGGA, CLUB
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>>172941196
Wrong image. Intended this one.

>>172941329
Because while you can get by with anything in PvE, I just want to know I'm putting my stats where they are going to make the biggest difference.

Real talk, I'm having a lot of trouble with endgame areas and DLC, because my old saves/characters are garbage. So I just want a good, reliable build to bridge the skill to difficulty gap so I'm not getting smashed as much.
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>>172928406
Demon prince: 2nd attempt
Halflight: 1st attempt
Midir: 2nd attempt (STOP CRYING ABOUT HIM BEING TOO HARD CUZ HE'S FUCKING NOT)
Gael: 6th attempt
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>>172941757
Maybe little paint bottles with the top wrapped in his cape to cap them off.
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>>172942370
How come? I thought the game does save sweeps that checks for illegitimate things such as age:3
>>
>>172942594
Yes.
Because you're already a soft bun.
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>invading
>host has two phantoms with him
>both have dual greatswords
>they block the doorway and proceed to spam L1

What's the point in invading anymore? It's been ages since I've met an honourable host before.
>>
FEAR NOT THE 404, FRIEND.
>>172942761
>>172942761
>>172942761
>>172942761
Partake in the new thread
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>>172928406
Demon prince: 3rd attempt
Spears: 3rd attempt 3rd spear was afk
Midir: 20+ times, didn't count
Gael: not yet beaten, tried twice
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>>172942793
fuck I actually thought you could get past it for a moment
>>
What is the best weapon to use the refined infusion on, hands down?

Also what's the current tier list so I can stay away from using S tier?
>>
Want to buy ds3 and the 2 dlcs using G2A, is that shit reliable?
>>
My soulmate, i feel this on a high level. For Honor is my adopted home and the dlc is the only thing that bought me back and honestly im not impressed. I love souls and i love the story and the combat but For Honor is the next step and dark souls just feels like R1: The Game
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>>172940725
fallen knight uses a longsword and offhand bandit dagger though, at least the one at cathedral of the deep. Are there other fallen knights in the game?
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>>172943662
wait for SOTFS
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>>172944297
fallen knight concept art from dark souls 3 design works has a paired greatsword/straightsword weapon that's got a ragged back sheathe, and has the shield that is "hawkwoods shield" in the game, it matches the fallen knight set 110% because it was designed for it originally
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