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RINGED CITY IS OUT, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE SPOILED, STAY AWAY WHILE YOU PLAY IT BY YOURSELF

>Trapped:
>>172898541

>Ringed City items checklist (if you find an error, please reply and correct):
https://pastebin.com/724E2jEB

>1.11 patch:
http://store.steampowered.com/news/externalpost/steam_community_announcements/75839063734797566

>1.12 patch:
http://store.steampowered.com/news/externalpost/steam_community_announcements/75839596812166515

>Ringed City DLC stuff
http://pastebin.com/4mUsZWmv

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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I'm honestly surprised FromSoft didn't add a katana with the quickstep WA.
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first for fuck midir
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Talking about Bloodborne really makes me not want to play DaS3 anymore...

Why is Midir so shit?

And fuck Gael is difficult.

Goddamnit.
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rate my face skill
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Someone tell me if sellsword blades are still good with blessed weapon
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>>172911926
what about a sudoku katana where you cut your belly to coat it in blood for boosted damage
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>>172911921
>Farron GS or Wolf Knight GS.

So he is an abyss enemy eh? It seemed like my Wolf GS was doing more damage than it should the one time I tried it but I wasn't sure and switched back to resin'd Lothric UGS.
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>>172912042
that one already exists
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I haven't played PVP in a while but is this peak third world connection hour?
Getting sick of this
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posting Shira, daughter of the Duke, descendant of gods, and trusted friend to Midir.

At once, she is the honour of the gods, the glory of fire, and the fear of the dark.
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>>172912005
Just equip bloodring and any weapon that isn't slow as shit
ez boss
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>>172911879
A lot of people just play through these games with their friends. Plenty of other people just summon a lot of phantoms because they're there and they can.
It was fairly common in 2 as well with the Name ring, you just see it way, way more now because of their worlds being prioritized.
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COMPLAINING ABOUT DARK SOULS 2 LORE IS FORBIDDEN

COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE PLOT OF DARK SOULS 2 WILL RESULT IN A PERMANENT BAN FROM /dsg/
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>>172911926
Wouldn't really be useful on that weapon class actually.
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>Description for Butcher Knife
>"Back in the Undead Settlement, the woman acquired a taste for human flesh, of which she took glee in partaking."
PARTAKE
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>patch out the spin sweep r1 -> weapon art combos on halberds (and curved gs and greathammer) because its 'completely broken damage'
>literally just patch that shit right back into the game for some reason
from is so inconsistent and loves the pay to win model
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>>172911863
Should I buy Dark Souls III tomorrow, or buy Dark Souls II SOTFS Edition off Steam?

I'm new to the series, and currently only own Prepare to Die Edition (first game)
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Should I do a hex build or shield only build?
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What are /dsg/'s thoughts on Dark Souls 3's resident memelord, Pineapple Irons?
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>>172912005

gael's hard but i felt good about him, it was a good ol' fashioned "calm down, learn the moveset and focus" boss fight. had to spend an hour getting summoned to help others and learn his moves first but i felt like i got some discipline again.

now if only i could kill that stupid dragon...
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BB:ToH > DeS > DaS: AotA > DaS3:TRC+PWoA > DaS2:SotFS

You know this to be true.
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>>172912129
>Trusted friend to Midir
>ayy go kill Midir thanks lol

are all the gods two-faced?
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>>172912005
Midir is the closest thing Ds3 has to Defiled Amy
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Requesting good female sliders
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First for fair and balanced invasions
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>>172912214
wait, is that the r1, l2, r2 combo?
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>>172911863
Is there anyone on ps4 with a bleed build or pestilent mercury that can help me kill demon prince?

I keep getting him to 30% but I end up dying.
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>>172912163
>tfw Souls awakened your dragon fetish
>ywn go around "slaying" dragons
it's not fair
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>>172912281
Where is all the porn of Shira making out with Midir's cock?
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>>172912234
honestly senpai just play the series in order, go for 2.
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>>172912106
Are all undead matches full of rubberbanding?
What the fuck man, pvp never made me angry before
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>>172912281
Midir was becoming corrupted. Think Artorias in the DLC.
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>>172912302
how are these >>172912016
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>>172912347
Welcome Anon
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>>172912298
I can perfect Defiled Amy, but I can't even get Midir to 30%. Half the time I can't even get him to 80%.

Midir is shit.
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Is there any point in using anything that's not DUGS right now?
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>>172912250

literally just watched the 2UGS and doorshield videos. pretty good, glad they were short.
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>>172911572
How about
>Great Tier
Demons, Dark 1, Dark 2, Dark 3, Bloodborne
>Okay Tier
Most other fantasy ARPGs

I don't get why /dsg/ gets so filled with shitposting the moment someone brings up how this amazing game isn't as good as this other amazing game; this amazing game is shit and not even comparable. It's like people here can't enjoy anything without assuring other anonymous posters that their amazing game is superior in someway.
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MUH KING'S DECREE
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Help me pick a STR weapon in ds2

No greatsword, no great club, no twinblades
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>>172912250
who?
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>>172912341
yes. its been removed on all other weapons (you can roll out of the last hit) but they added it again on the highest damage halberd in the game
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>>172912481
DGA
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>>172912435
Fun.
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>>172912481
>no greatsword
Why would you want anything else? It's the most patrician class of weapon
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IT'S ALL GOING TO START OVER AGAIN
>I wish to paint a picture. Of a cold, dark, and very gentle place. One day, it will make someone a goodly home. That's why I must see flame.

The painting loli is going to paint another picture - one that is how the world was prior to the first flame - grey, archtrees and everlasting dragons.

Now what if our current world, which is converging together at the end, is nothing more than Gwyn's painting and this is just another way to perpetuate a neverending cycle?
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>>172912493
i had it used on me and have used it on others with the lucerne

it's the only thing that lets me beat these dugs users
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>>172912481
Bone scythe or barbed club
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>>172912474
I can live with this. Now we're all in agreement, and we can stop snipping at each other over it.
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>>172912481
Yorgh's spear.
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>>172912427
>Midir is shit.
You're shit.
I'm terrible at this game and beat Midir third try
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>He thinks this was the last DLC

keks

Sekret DLC is coming, the Fire Fades edition launches with free DLC that happens to all versions.

The true final fight is ahead of you yet, ashen ones.
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>Hosts that run away to summon even to this day

haha hosts really are weaklings most of the time lol.
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>>172912474
i really miss playing Demon's Souls somedays
i bought it ages ago on my PS3 but then the PS3 shit the bed and i just never bothered buying consoles again when i started building PCs
maybe in 20 years we'll see PS3 emulation
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>>172912253
Yeah Gael is a great fight. I keep getting close but he's fucking me up in phase 3.

Midir is just indefensible. He is possible, obviously, but no fucking boss fight should take 11 goddamn minutes.
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>>172912629
Pathetic.
I killed Midir with no armor, fire clutch ring, dark clutch ring, skull ring, calamity ring, NG++++ etc etc
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>>172912481

KUGS

STRIKE DAMAGE

S STRENGTH SCALING

DECENT MOVESET

GREAT WAIFU CARVED INTO BACKSIDE

When you get to SL200+ switch to Bell Chime Hammer, Crypt Clunker or Smelter Drumstick.
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>>172912667
Well, put two and two together. If a host constantly has a bunch of phantoms, do you think they're likely to be good at the game or brave enough to fight you?
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>>172912017
anyone?
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>>172912726
I'm still booting up the ol' fatty every day, just to check...
I really will miss the game like nothing else when it's gone.
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oof
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>>172912730

what did me for phase 3 was just getting good enough with the first two phases to chug my way through it.
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>>172912406
pretty good actually
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Anyone have a Ringed Knight Hood they could drop for me? RNG is giving me the dick and I want one to complete my edgy weebfaggot build. Sitting at city streets bonfire, pass is dssg to avoid any potential FC's.
>>172912730
He took me 5-7 minutes just now. He's actually not very hard, but I agree with the notion that his defense and health is fucking retarded.
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>>172912726
Demon's Souls was the very last Souls game I played, even after Bloodborne, and it's legit my favorite of the series. I wouldn't say its the "best" but the overall package is so charming and unique even compared to other souls games.
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>Locusts trying to convince you to join the dark.
>While trying to eat you at the same time.
This is why you don't get followers.
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whats the most fun caster build.

I tried doing a miracle build but it felt more like playing a gimped str build.
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>>172912796
>DECENT MOVESET
it has the literal worst 1 handed r1s in the game and its 2h r2s are worthless too
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>>172912481
>no mention of the mastodon halberd
s m h /dsg/
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>>172912005
This is a visual metaphor for how much better Bloodborne is
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I shall P A R T A K E
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>>172912629
If you did (and assuming you aren't in NG and SL 140 or had three phantoms, etc) it was probably because you got very lucky with his ability usage. There are attempts when he WILL NOT allow you to get close. At that point, he's going to toast you or laser you or charge you when you wear down. Not to shit on your achievement, but I've seen several very good players have a lot of trouble with him, and they all have one thing in common: the successful attempts are the ones where Midir does two swipes and a breath beneath him again and again.
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>>172912893
Yeah that's probably how I'm going to pull through it.

>>172912939
>He took me 5-7 minutes just now. He's actually not very hard
Whatever. That fucking SL1 video that gets thrown around here; that guiy does more damage per swing to Midir than I do, and played the fight flawlessly, and it took him 11 minutes.

I guess you're doing 1k damage to him and/or hitting him twice as often as that guy managed.
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>>172912939
PS4? If so, can I get gauntlets in return?
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>>172913008
Incorrect, you're just shit. The weapon is meant for manual aiming and it's delayd hit R1's are perfect. Combine it with offhand spear/straightsword and it's absolutely terrifying, as of the later patches with working poise.
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Lets say I want to start a soulborne yt thing

What kind of content would be a good way to start off
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Survey: How much damage were you doing to Midir per hit to his face, and how much to his legs?
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>>172912553
It's not the real world. It's a fake. Just a painting.

>Muh Gwyn is a painter
Only works if you provide some fucking evidence that the dude had any artistic proclivities at all.
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>>172913139
What would YOU want to watch?
I like longform videos of gameplay with commentary with good quality audio.
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HOW CAN YOU FUCKERS HAVE FUN WITH THIS PVP?
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>>172913040
>the successful attempts are the ones where Midir does two swipes and a breath beneath him again and again.`

this, and even then you'll sometimes get chipped by its fucking fire while running to its tail
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>>172913191
by gitting gud
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>>172913054
>I guess you're doing 1k damage to him and/or hitting him twice as often as that guy managed.
well of course I do, he's fucking SL1. He has to play super careful at all times, so there are opportunities and risks I can take that might result in damage for me, but would result in instant death for him. So of course I get more hits in then he does.
>>172913104
PC. And I don't have gauntlets, but I have some other gear lying around for anyone that might want.
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>>172913139
Either a video shittalking Vaati, a video getting so much lore blatantly wrong, or showing off the true power of the DUGS/Door Shield
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>>172913191
>playing DaS3 for PvP
i just set up shop at fun bosses and help retard hosts
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Gaels GS is great. I mean, I didn't expect it to be so light.
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>>172913191
Arena duels and Spear of the Church summons. I wish regular invasions buffed you up like when you get summoned as a Spear against a gank. You feel like a god.
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>>172913163
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>>172913191
auto curse weapons
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>>172913163
Literally 420 on head because faith Anri's build, and head always does double damage, so 210 on legs. The difficulty of the boss heavily depends upon build and NG+ cycle.
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>>172913139
do what you like and think is interesting, you'll be best at it
then travel back in time 4 years so that there are actually people to watch your videos
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>>172913163
~230 to his face
~150 to his body

>>172913191
The PvP in this stupid game is the only part of it that even approaches fun.
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>>172913191
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>get to demons
>run out of estus as I finish off last demon
>I already know there's going to be a second stage
>there is

I'm too tired for this.
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>>172912302
Shira's face is alright.
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>>172913191
you dont, its like a woman going back to an abusing husband
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can someone repost the webm of bradley healing the player in DS2
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>>172913168
It's possible that Gwyn himself wasn't the painter, in the same way the loli painter is going to create Ash, which presumably the Ashen One will be as a god. Admittedly, I don't have any more evidence and I don't even know DaS lore very well. I just see this as a way of perpetuating the never ending cycle.
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>>172913191
I find invasions fun but the undead match is such god damn cancer.
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>>172913254
It is everything I could have hoped for.
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>>172913163
400 with vestiges on face, 200 on body
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>>172913282
Literally who actually has trouble with the Demons? I beat them on my 2nd try and I only died the first time because I was still learning the setup.
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Yo I beat the DLC bosses but now I'm not sure if I can still invade people in the church boss fight.

I touched this girl's egg and it fucking cracked and then I ended up in Nevada for some reason and then had to fight some old faggot. Am I locked out of becoming the boss?
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>>172913384
Why are you presuming you'll be god of the empty painting world? That's like saying Ariandel or Ariamis rule the other two paintings when they're nowhere to be seen or indicated.
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Finish him off, Guts. I believe in you.
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>>172913297
>tfw you're honour of the gods
>glory of fire
>fear of the dark
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>>172912191

LET THE FEAST BEGIN
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>>172911863
So at the end of DS3 you travel to the Kiln where Lothric is crumbling. You travel through it, find an ancient city. Then you reveal the truth, this ancient city is actually in ruins too. But in the distance, Lothric and much of Anor Londo are now intact again?

And Miyazaki said Soul of Cinder is still the last boss. So what, after TRC, we travel back to The Dreg Heap and back to the Kiln to link the flame even though its all going to fuck anyway?

So fucking confused.
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>>172913469
Nah you Gucci famalam
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>>172912302
default. you put a helmet on and nobody fucking sees it
done
even if you make a good face and go naked head nobody fucking looks at that shit while they gang bang your ass
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>>172913470
Were those paintings painted with a Lord Soul?
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>>172913469
no, just equip the convenant item and wait a long time since everyone and their mother is in line
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>>172913559
We certainly don't know. That's the problem with your theory.
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Who is the best Souls content creator and why is it ThePruld
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>>172913418
Invasions are god damn cancer but the arena is pretty fun.
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>>172913163
I was getting about 250 on his head and 125 on his legs, and that's after I started using Magic Clutch. I didn't even get the stagger until he was already almost completely dead.

Thanks MLGS, I love you but you have done nothing to deserve it.
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>>172913469
when i was setting down my sign for the fight club just outside the spear fight, after beating the dlc, i'd sometimes get summoned to spear

you're fine

>>172912906
i'm trying to figure out how to get them in the pastebin, hold on
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>>172913435
Most of my trouble is the camera and demon ass taking up 80% of the screen.
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>>172913531
>even if you make a good face and go naked head nobody fucking looks at that shit while they gang bang your ass
But I can look at it every now and then.
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>>172913621
Because he makes OC animations that are fantastic
https://youtu.be/mp28JPs25ek
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>>172913531
If I wear a hood for fashion's sake, I don't want to look at my character having a weird duckface in the savescreen
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>starting to get tired
>have a goal to take this new Dex character and defeat Midir
>still have to beat Friede and the twin demons
>not to mention having to navigate the Dreg Heap and Ringed City again
Reee
I just want my anime sword so I can stop playing and just slum it out in PvP casually
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Are there any other sets that look similar to basic Knight set?

I really like how clean the plate looks but I'm not a fan of the frayed chainmail part at the bottom

Also I feel like a chump wearing the same armor I started the game with
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>>172913637
he always staggers super low, youre supposed to finish him with it just like in the fight on the bridge
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>>172913521
Yeah you really have no reason to bother when you know some faggot is going to ruin everything so some random loli can paint a shitty pocket dimension that nobody will be able to use because he killed them all.
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>painting loli says it's time to wake up
>wake up
>wake up
>wake up
>"wake up Stephen it's time for school"
>small cutscene of a boy getting ready for school
>[END] Thank you for playing!
This should have been the ending my sides would have been in orbit
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>>172913621
What is it about Italian that seems to make it so fitting for his content? I can't imagine it being as good if it was in English, or even another foreign language.
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Somebody on Xbox One please help
After beating the demon princes on my third try with one character i am just totally unable to do it with my other character.
I like to keep track of how many times i die with a boss the first time i encounter them with a character and it is safe to say that with this character I have died to the demon princes more than i have died to literally every other boss across all 5 soulsborne games combined.
Easily over 100 attempts at this point.
Level 165, new game ++.
I know i can beat him on my own because ive come within one or two hits of beating him, but for fucks sake its getting disheartening and i really want this character to finish the dlc.
Please help
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>>172913469

Nah, just go back.
Gotta beat the fuckin dragon dude, Midir.
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>>172913768
Nameless Knight, so you can feel like an OG chump.
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>>172913768
Off the top of my head, you might like nameless knight, Lapp's set or Lothric knight.
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>>172913768
>Also I feel like a chump wearing the same armor I started the game with
nonsense
Starting Knight set is always the best set to finish the game with
Nothing ever topped the Fluted Armor set though...
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>>172913768
that's the best plate armor in the game unfortunately
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>>172913754
>Dex
But why
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>>172913820
>Xbox One
lol
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1uM7XjPL9U

MEME VIDEO HAS BEEN DEPLOYED

COMPLETE DESTRUCTION OF THE WEAPON IS NOW IMMINENT

THANKS YOU OH BASED IRON PINEAPPLE
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>>172913701

Are you implying that's remotely good?
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>>172913770
I've seen someone else get the stagger when he had around 1/3rd left.
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>>172912302

is she kawaii uguu?
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>>172913919
Because its different from what I usually do, which are Strength weapons like Greatswords
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>>172913768
nameless knight
drakeblood if you want something more ornate
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>>172912302
Couple of folks said this was alright.
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>>172913701
whys the side of her face flat
also nice witch nose
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>>172914109

decently good
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heh
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>attempt a DEX character
>leave dissatisfied because I can't pancake and stagger every enemy in the game with ease
back to strength i go
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>>172911951
The freakiest thing I found about that is that you can clearly see that his head's been snapped from his spine, and that it's just hanging from his body by some neck tissue. And you can see that there's blood in there. Yet how can he still move?

>>172912481
Pursuer's is pretty fun, it's not overly heavy and still does good damage.

Orma + Reeve's, requires 50 Str.
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>>172913948
Why would they add such a cancerous weapon? It makes me wonder if some cheeky intern adjusted its numbers just before release.
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>>172914034
Too much so
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>>172913191
I don't
I had fun and took it semi-seriously during release but stopped playing around september, just started playing the game again recently and now I can't fucking stand PvP in this game, I question how I ever enjoyed it or was good at it
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>>172913948
mememesmememmemememsmememememmemememesmememememe
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>>172914109
That's nice
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>>172914278
DUDE JUST CROSSBOWS LMAO
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I can't be certain, but when I was fighting Midir, I thought I saw the bodies in the floor of the arena move like the Ludwig fight in BB, specifically when he used his dark magic.
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So when is the GOTY edition coming out with my +7 rings and unreleased content (Golden Tracers, Ledo's armor etc.)
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>>172914343
The things don't even weigh much more than the LKUGS. No other Ultra comes close to having such a quick or varied moveset. I'm fucking mad.
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>>172913820
shameless bump
Its been three fucking days. I just wanna move the fuck on with this game
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i unironically need someone to explain slave knight gael to me
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>3v3
>entire enemy team is using DUGS
>and insane lag too
I WANT OFF MR NEATO'S WILD RIDE
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>>172914659
What you need to know?
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>>172913948
Damn.. is it really that broken? It just seems like flavor of the month. I've yet to get crazy wrecked by this thing.
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>>172912298
They key difference is that you can absolutely gut Defiled Amy in under 3 minutes if you know what you're doing
The worst part about Midir is that even a mildly successful run takes at least 10-15 minutes
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am i pretty dsg
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>>172914789
Its near unstoppable if someone knows when to use it.
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>>172914789
the problem is the near infinite stuns

the only way to get out is if someone else hits you and breaks the stun chain
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>>172914803
Killed him in NG+ in 7, and I missed the riposte too.
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>>172914826
you have no jaw
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Pyro builds are shit because of requirements for two stats... the question is should I do STR/INT or STR/FTH?
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>>172914659
Slave Knight from the same era as the first age, one of the first undead tasked with some mysterious purpose he obviously has long forgotten, he has outlived countless kingdoms and gods and was eventually forlorn and drawn to the painted world.
Seeing the rot threatening to destroy the only world he cares about, he sets out to find THE dark soul to serve as the painters pigment.
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>>172912253
>"calm down, learn the moveset and focus"
That's exactly how I felt when I fought Midir. Admittedly, I'm SL 100+ with ~500 AR, but his moves are predictable. Just stay close to his head and get in a few swings.
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>>172914925
>Pyro
>Shit
It's like you're retarded or something
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does anyone actually update the character sliders?
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>>172913701
>>172913981
>>172914146

>>172914109
>>172914172
>>172914334

Life isn't fair.
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Who else here having to fight the bosses in NG+++.
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Does anyone use reshade? I wanted to give them a stab and was trying to find and evidence it can be bannable but all I find are posts literally a year or more old saying they dont know.
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>>172913435
He's very difficult at sl 25
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>>172912242
Fuck those giants
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>>172915071
I was NG+4 on a pyromancer. I swear the DLC made me a masochist and scalie at the same time.
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>>172914789
I've been wanting to try a dragonslayer armor cosplay. What are your stats my guy if you wouldn't mind posting.
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>>172914925
Pyro is shit but it's the only caster build that can be used in pvp because you can combo r1s into black flame. Crucific is the go to str/fai weapon now.
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Can someone please explain how Lothric castle is standing again at the end?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FPOfVeNAh8

>DUGS are overpowered
Most people are actually just fucking garbage fyi, they're a joke in japanland so I doubt they're getting nerfed.
You can also knock them out of their poise with charge R2s from ultras or great hammers.
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>>172912629
>>172913040
>>172913163
I feel like I unlocked the secret easy mode to Midir fighting him with the DGA. I was dealing a fuckload of damage and the fight didn't last the 15 minutes everyone is claiming.
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>>172915120
>the games so HAAAAAAARD when i dont level so i do NOO DAAAMAAGE and have NO HEAAALTHH or STAMINAAA, WAAHHH
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>get invaded
>red tries to rush me with PUGS
>point his boy puss in with perseverance and vordt's hammer
>finish him with a heavy crossbow shot

but yeah if your weapon doesnt have perseverance you're fucked lmao
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>>172915219
Because it's a dreamscape
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>>172913435
If you can't stun them in two hits and crit them like literally anyone with a Curved Greatsword or UGS, they can be a pain in the ass.

I went at them with an SL75 Moonlight. Doing 150 damage a hit and not getting either of them into a ripostable stun until one was dead and the other was close already makes them pains in the ass.
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>>172914925
>Pyro builds are shit because of requirements for two stats

How? What's the difference between;

>60 stats into faith
>60 stats into Int
>30 into each
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>>172914659
Evil cunt kills the Dark Soul to make sure that neither Dark nor Flame will ever exist again, only an age of nothingness and ash.
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Since we posting waifus an all
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>>172915340
Which bit, the base game, the Kiln or the ash wastes?
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>invade in road of sacrifices
>run around for a bit
>message pops up
>"you don't have the license for this dlc"
>booted back to menu
wew
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>>172915357
>30 into each
Why not 40? Haven't built a pyro yet
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>>172915227
>You can also knock them out of their poise with charge R2s from ultras or great hammers.
>mfw not literally everyone in the game uses ultras or hammers

HOL UP

SO YOU BE SAYIN

THE ENTIRE PLAYERBASE

HOL

UP

HOL UP

THE ENTIRE PLAYERBASE

HOL OP

THEY SHOULD ALL USE HAMMERS AND

HOL UP

ULTRAS?

*SMACKS LIPS*

*SHAKES HEAD*

*BECOMES SASSY*

AWWW HELL NAWWW
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>>172913163
like 250 every half second with pestilent mercury

no point in trying to melee him on NG+7.
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Why does Friede's Scythe suck so much? Did they even test this thing?
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>>172915394
3/5, it's alright
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>>172915227
>theyre a joke if you have a friend acting literally as stupid as possible while you backstab fish witha shield
i honestly dont even understand how that phantom can even succeed in being that retarded
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>>172913518
I had a feeling this would become a meme
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>>172915227
>heaviest attacks available to the player can stagger

wow what the fuck from
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>>172915487
its a great weapon.. if u have the skill to handle it..
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How the fuck do you beat midir past ng++? His HP pool is too high, i'm doing no damage. It doesn't help that this boss is probably the worst case of horrible camera placement completely fucking you over regardless if you lock in or not.

Seriously, how the fuck do you beat him?
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>>172915461
some weapon arts that combo have enough poise to tank a hit and combo them

i love you, lucerne
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>>172914943
How the hell do I deal with exile greatsword users? I've invaded a few today and I'm using lighting blade darkdrift. Can't trade with them obviously, a single hit does a bit over 1/3 my hp.

it's a problem with bigger weapons in general for a dex/fai build for me. With lag I rarely get a staggering hit, even if I adjust for hit we always attack at the same time, so I always trade staggers with them, I hit for about 300, they chunk 1.3 my health. avelyn and lightning bow miracle only work a couple of times and don't do decent enough damage to eat through all their estus. The exile WA I cannot escape from spamming roll and it can stunlock me to death.
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>>172915461
No, you can just sidestep the charge and backstab them with any weapon. I only bring up the ultra and GH strategy because it isn't shown in that video.
The fuck is your problem dude?
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>>172915458
You start with 13 in each, so you only need 27 into Faith/Int
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>>172915412
You know how Lothric Castle is disconnected from the rest of the Kingdom even though it was once clearly linked to the great bridge that led to the Undead Settlement?
Due to the Flame dying, the fabric of reality is going to shit and the lands are shifting. Lothric was torn out from the earth and became disconnected from the reality surrounding it. It's why you soo Anor Londo at the End of the World as well
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>>172914943
I wonder if this DLC where they destroy the world permanently was their way of washing their hands of the series.
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>it's another artorias fag without the gs tries to parry a greataxe episode
fucking shitters
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>>172914593
>Ahh, this blood....could it be...the blood of the Dark Souls 3: Prepare to Die edition?
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>>172915607
Oh, right.
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>>172915207
>combo r1s into black flame.
Wait, seriously?

I thought the only pyro combo was serpent into vestiges.
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>>172915227
>>172915604
that red is fucking garbage and good players open with R1, which has a 360 cone you fucking retard

for real tho that phantom there is utter garbage

Opening with the L1 is a noobtrap but works good enough for normal players, in any other case you should just going for R1. 2 hits and he guardbreaks that fist backstabber easily.
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>>172915394
waifu postan?
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>>172914653
>>172913820
I think you're going to be lucky if you see a single other person with a bone in these threads. PS4 players are already the minority, its PCfag town.
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>>172915513
Charge animation is easy to sidestep and takes such a long time you have time to get behind them and backstab, problem is people roll and cant recover in time, better to just block and waddle behind them.
>>172915549
The important thing to note is the L1 charge wont break your poise charging an R2, and you can release it before they enter the second stage L1 combo.

Is everyone just trolling tonight or are you all seriously retarded?
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>>172915565
No it's not.
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>>172915785
>Is everyone just trolling tonight or are you all seriously retarded?

yes everyone here is retarded except for you
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>>172915791
whatever fag dont waste my time, were done here
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how much left of the game is there after dukes archive?
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>>172913624
Invasions are challenging instead of ezmode arena.
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Have no saves so I'm starting again from zero.
What's a decent catalyst to grab as a sorc and upgrade early?

The early game areas are pretty dead so I'm just trucking on alone for the most part.

Broke bitch so no DLC yet, but want to get to the point where I can get into the DLC once I get some spare cash.
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>>172913919
I thought 40/40 dex/int was pretty sweet with Friede's Scythe, is that not the case?
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How good is Giant Door shield?
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>>172915178
I'm using cheat engine to get past the equip load. I don't care about getting banned tbqh. Kinda don't really care about this game anymore.

However, at SL 85-90, you can ditch the shield, then get ring of favor +3 and havel's +3, invest like 20-25 something points into vitality and you can go almost full cosplay. At meta 120, you can probably use the shield, too. All of that shits mad gay though, so I just use Collector's Edition perks.
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>>172915732
>Red is garbage
You are actually brain damaged
Theyre showing how easy it is to sidestep the charge, how long it lasts and where you can stand.
Its not a duel its a fucking tutorial on how to exploit the charge you donut.

>A 1h ultra opening with an R1
This isnt overpowered for the same reason the Farron Greatsword is complete garbage. YOU CAN PARRY IT. If you give them no option to L1 charge into you and have to rely on leading with the R1 it should be childs play to parry them.

Dark Souls is hard :(
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>>172915576
Nobody?
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>>172915785
you have clearly never fought against this weapon
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>>172915784
well thats disappointing
Guess ill have to delete the character
I have never been more angry at a game in my entire life. I fucking love Dark Souls 3 but i feel like the princes here break what i consider to be the number one rule of fairness, which is that there is pretty much one way to fight them and one way only.
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>>172915916
It's not. Latest patches have nerfed Friede's into being useless.
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>>172915884
3 more major areas not including the DLC, assuming the dukes is the first place you went to after the lord vessel
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>>172915760
>>172915045
>>172914109
>>172913701

What is wrong with all your saggy necks?
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>>172916004
>You have never fought against this weapon
I USED this weapon for like 100+ Spear battles because it fucking crushes noobs, I would say in like 50% or more of those summons someone was using them as well.

I use the Ringed Knight Spear right now and other shit like the anime katana because I'm bored of the DUGS. There were people who figured out how it worked and beat me or people really good with spacing and timing their strikes with hammers\ultras.
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>>172915961
What is dead angling for $100?
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>>172916059
Worst villain in the series from a moral perspective.
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>>172915939
is this you?

>>172915984
with great difficulty
or the milwood greatbow
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>>172915961
its a demonstration of the guy hitting l1 when the other guy HAS LITERALLY ALREADY PASSED OUT OF THE STRIKE ZONE.
its like showing a video of a dark sword r1 spamming out of range and getting hit by a spear, yes this is possible, no it wont ever happen when anybody with a brain fights you
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>everyone's desperate for summons outside of Darkeater dragon
>Clicking summons as quick as possible without checking
>Use red soap sign and have Sunlight faction on
>instant summons
>fuck up people's day
hehehehe
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What is your favorite boss fight each of the three DaS games?
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>>172916192
He's not really a villain, just an antagonist. And Nashandra is far worse.
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>>172916184
>Deadangling with an Ultra
>DS3

Yeah man all those Ultras wrecking people in arena right now and not just getting stunfucked by literally anything faster or spears. Rofl why is everyone acting like Ultra Greatswords didn't exist before the Ringed City?

Sometimes I try to treat people like they're actually somewhat decent at the game and not just part of the /dsg/ cry brigade but here we are.

Dark Souls is hard :(
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>>172915721
Yes. It even works with Demon's Scar.
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>>172916192
Gael is a good guy gone bad because of where his quest led him, kinda like solaire
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How do you deal with Unfaltering Lighting Bow spam?
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>>172916261
I guess theres no way to beat the weapon then :(
Better just start a petition and cry to the Dark Souls twitter
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>>172916175
thats just how the models are, try to hide it with armor
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>>172916312
are you also wearing the untrue or white rings?
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>>172912481
dual maces
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>>172916337
How the fuck are you getting knocked out of attacks when you're using PUGS? Are you using stuff with no poise?
The reason people are acting like this is because they just got buffed, and then From releases the best UGS since Cursed Weapon DBS.
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>>172915760
nice boobies fgt
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I feel like in a zero or low latency environment UGS are trash, but when latency is involved they are a fucking menace and hold all the advantages.
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>>172916315
in the first game definitely artorias

I will actually draw out that fight and let him powerup sometimes just because I think it's fun.
Then I feel like Vegeta when he let cell reach his perfect form and I get my ass kicked

I am trying to design a cool tattoo with artorias in it atm
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>>172916486
Wearing the untrue. I can sneak up for a backstab half the time with ease.
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>>172916315
O&S
Raime
Soul of Cinder
Bonus: Old King Allant

I don't understand how anyone likes nameless king. There's no depth perception and it's actually important to the fight unlike 4kings where it was still a terrible thing to include in a bossfight.
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>>172914789
no, people are overreacting. Raped everyone using that thing with my mace.

Just as you saw in the end of the video, you have so much time to WA a perseverance when they try to do that super combo shit.
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>>172913521
All I know is that the egg shell looks like the walls surrounding the city. There's some spell at work there but I have no idea if it is time related or an illusion or a spell that protects the ringed city from the black hole effect that comes from the first flame.
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>>172916175
from made the head and neck models separate, so where they join, it looks weird

looks even weirder if you
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>>172916547
>not just getting a tattoo of the dark sign or better yet the Hunter's Mark from BB
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>>172916337
are you having like 2 poise or something?

the weapons are OP, thats literally a fact. You are LITERALLY playing PvP without ever getting hit against them. If you can be that one guy who beats his opponents without ever getting hit you can beat anything.

Also all good players free aim ultra weapons, and good luck circling around that weapon if the guy is freeaiming
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>>172916615
fuck, accidentally hit post

... if you max out your chest size, then you have a chunky lower neck and a sudden thinner neck just below your jaw
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>>172913948
People just don't know how to dodge it properly yet. It's not overpowered at all.

People just aren't used to the roll timing since it's a new weapon.

If From nerfs this shit I'm done with this game. Allready ruined FUGS because of whiny retards who were literally walking into it when the game released because they were still in "Dark Souls 2 I can just facetrade everyone with my katana" mode.
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>>172916515
Second L1 combo can easily knock a normal ultra R1 out of their poise because it hits 2-3 times.
But the initial L1 charge that noobs struggle with only hits once and is easily punished by a charged R2.
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>>172915760

r8 my waifu
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>>172916315
Uh, Soul of Cinder

...M-More pics please
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Goddamnit, I don't think I can beat Gael like this. I've been trying on-and-off for three hours now and I just can't get him past 20%.

Anyone on PS4 want to help me out?
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>get invaded my first time to the untended graves by katana user
>accidentally aggro mob that cleaves me a new assshole
>invader politely waits for me to kill mob and heal before engaging me again

Whoever you were, I just want you to know I appreciate your courtesy.
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Are Ringed Knight weapons useless on a quality build? It feels like you need to take advantage of that fire scaling to get any decent damage out of them
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>>172916658
I think its gross that From is more likely to nerf that shit than buff all the god awful garbage they flooded the DLC with.
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>>172916658
I'd say the chances of any more balancing is null. Its over.
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>>172916647
Good luck free arming a charge you can barely turn you fucking idiot. Brush up on your reading comprehension.
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>>172916674
SMASHING
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How do YOU determine which summon is the most experienced.

Fashion?
Weapon?
Name?
Covenant?
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>>172916658
i feel like certain weapons that include flips in their WA shouldn't stunlock people if you collide with them using your body while in midair, otherwise i've gotten pretty ok at playing around the dugs, even if it took more than a few deaths
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>>172916547
artorias isnt in the first game friend
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>>172916743
There will be probably one more patch with the GOTY version, but thats likely it.
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What would Filianore even have been able to do if she was awake and not a mummy? Would any of the Gods even be equal to Gael after he consumed the DS?
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>Getting summoned for church
>AW YEAH HERE WE GO
>Get summoned in
>Host has THREE PHANTOMS
>All of them are lagging
>Oh god what's happening
>Dead

IT WAS THREE OF THEM NIGGAS
THREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>172916647
Do you not see the humor in your argument. You talk about good ultra players going up against bad players that get hit. At higher level play DUGS is fucking terrible for the same reason that most weapons are, if you outpatient them you win.
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>>172915915
Heretics and dlc items
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>>172916827
Midir could have just eaten Gael.

>>172916835
God it feels so good to be facing 4v1 in the church and you instantly kill one of them with the spears upon your entry.

Plus when you win you get so many fucking rewards.
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>>172916815
????
DLC?
Am I being rused?
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>>172916912
Nigger if you out patience anything you win. That's not a valid argument.
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>>172916740
you mean flooded the base game with
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>>172916330
He's a villain. He destroys the dark soul after the flame has gone out, essentially dooming all intelligent species to an age of nothing. He killed the world. Even Nashandra didn't do that.
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>>172916708
I feel you mah dude
I actually think his third stage is the easiest because even though the damage output increases, his attack variety really goes down and he leaves you more opportunities to counter.
For me it took forever to master the first two stages because I just could not beat him in the final stage unless i had at least 4 estus left, and i fucking suck at predicting attacks so thats a challenge for me
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>>172917001
>destroy
>souls
what did he mean by this
>>
THERE ARE GANK SQUADS USING SEEDS IN THE UNDEAD SETTLEMENT HOW DO YOU EVEN HAVE THEM FUCKING HELL
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>NG+2 Midir

As a STRfag, I feel like it shouldn't be this hard, but it is
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>>172917080
>Dark/Lord Soul
>The same thing as regular souls.
There's a reason the Dark Soul inside every human is a different item from the souls you also get from them.
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>>172916770

r u a baratheon
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>>172917001
If what i think is happening is correct, Gaels story really pisses me off.
I absolutely loved Dark Souls 1 and i feel like the chosen undead there is the most important character in the whole franchise, and dark souls 3 is telling me he/she went out like a bitch to this Gael guy after his time was up on the fire instead of going down in a blaze of glory like Gwyn before him did.
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>>172917001
The world of Dark Souls can't ever be killed.
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>>172917000
Yeah true.

>>172917167
Not sure where you got any of that from. Gael has nothing to do with Chosen Undead.
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>>172917167
and on top of that we know fuck all about Gael and he only just appeared as a pretty much useless character in the last (really shitty) DLC
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>>172917090
???

You can get them from the Firelink Shrine dude, its not hard.
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>>172917209
If both the flame and the dark are dead there's nothing left but ash, anon.
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>>172916915
good weapon suggestions?
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>>172916981
And just because good players can crush shitters with it doesn't mean it's OP.
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What are some good strength weapons in DaS3 (aside from pic related). I have 66/16/10/15 STR/DEX/INT/FTH and both DLCs.

I have a lot of upgrade materials and I was thinking of upgrading
>Greatsword
>Cathedral Knight Greatsword
>Gundyr's Halberd
>Profaned Greatsword
>Yhorm's
>DSGA

I haven't started DLC too, but are Ledo's Greathammer or the dual Greatswords good? Are the strength weapons from the first DLC good? Any weapons from the base game or DLC1 I missed?
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>>172917150
>burn up all the lord souls in the lordvessel in ds1
>next game theyre all back
just like how gwyn giving parts of his soul to his knights totaly destroyed the soul and it stopped existing
just because its eaten or used and the form changes doesnt mean it stops existing
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>>172916802
ultra users in heavy armor tend to be the most reliable
dex weapon users are either mlg or worthless
i skip mages when looking for summons
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>>172917240
I thought the idea was that once a chosen undead has served their purpose and the fire is dying they somehow end up having their dark souls consumed by Gael
If thats not it then please explain it to me.
I dont want to watch a fucking Vati video about it.
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Anyone else make builds for silly stuff like this? I find it's a lot of fun! :D
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>>172917013
He keeps wiping me out on one hit with the big flying stab.

I don't know why I can't roll it, but I've just fought him three times, and every time I got him down to ~25% with plenty of Estus to spare, only to get wiped for 800-1000 HP by that attack.

It's really heartbreaking having to fight him for five minutes jut to die in one hit.
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>people actually summon help for the Spears
If you take more than one try for Spears of the Church solo, you are irredeemably bad and should quit instantly.
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>>172917358
Gwyn giving away parts of his soul permanently diminished it. By your argument he destroyed it as a functional entity regardless.
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>>172917343
DGA has been good to me, I'm at 23 tokens so far. If they rush you at the start the spears stun them long enough to get the WA off.

>>172917395
I'm not sure how you got that at all. Gael just ate the pygmy lords of the ringed city. Thats it.
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>>172917167
the ringed city has absolutely nothing to do with ds1's ending
gael doesnt fucking eat soul of cinder and replace him as the final boss of the game inside the kiln
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>>172917430
It depends on what the other person is using. Good luck fighting the Doors.
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>>172913163
256 leg 512 head
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>>172917408
Back when the bottomless box glitch was a thing I would make all sorts of goofy builds. Great times.
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>>172917356
dual greatswords are meme-y, and oddly enoguh you get 50 more AR going 40/40 than 60/16. they will still stunlock and hit like trucks, though

ledo's is one of the highest scaling pure str weapons, just barely beaten out by a heavy greataxe (by 5 AR) but trouncing it in reach and weapon art utility.
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>>172913191
>muh competitive dark souls
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Theoretically, would it be possible to create a mod for any of the DaS games that add a lot more NPC summons and invaders? They really make the games feel more alive and the online isn't going to last forever.
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>>172917479
>str build

i fucking hate that i started ng+ on my str build before the dlc came out, i'm so unmotivated to go through ng+
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Who builds all the huge stuff in the Souls Universe anyhow?

It's not as if real people live in the souls universes so why.
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any friends feel like helping me with gael?
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>>172917513
doors choke on my fat great mace cock when i put my knight slayer ring on
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>>172917356
spitleaf R1 L2 R2 does like 1300 damage with blessed weapon buff, which you have 15 fth for
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About to get to Filianore. Are there any lasting (PVP) consequences for going ahead from here?
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>>172917494
>>172917479
Wait so what the fuck even is the ringed city then?
Ive clearly profoundly misunderstood this DLC
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>>172917513
you just gotta bait the doors, they're actually vulnerable at the end of the charge attack, and it's telegraphed super hard by a loud noise. then smack them with a long weapon and repeat
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>>172917430
>So fucking tired of fighting Midir, seriously on the verge of tears
>Go fight Gael instead
>Have to fight Spears
>"Let's see what bullshit my fellow humans throw at me"
>Spear summoned
>It's a teleporting (like something out of AC4A) katana running R1 spammer (lel what nerf?)
>Get stunlocked by the two Painting guardians and teleport stabbed by katana shitter ad infinium
>Die
>He does "My Thanks!"

Fuck invaders. I did that shit solo, and I earned by +3 Spear covenant, and I have no animosity for people who summon. Fuck invaders.
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>>172917651
I got lucky and made a strength/faith build for the DLC since I wanted to try the Earthseeker, and it ended up working out.

You may want to try Friede's Scythe if you have int, but otherwise I haven't played dex in a while so I'm not 100% sure.
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>>172917664
pc or ps4
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>>172917659
Every game we play is at the very end of it's cycle, iirc, so all the builders and shit are dead and all that's left is slow ruin.
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>>172917783
pc my guy
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turns out magic is fucking useless on that dragon
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>>172917717
A city built by Gwyn for the Pygmies where he cursed and indoctrinated them, ending with most of them becoming his slaves and worshipers, before he sealed it away with his daughter to prevent those slaves from learning the truth.
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>>172917670
i thought that didn't actually do anything

or was that the horse ring
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>GOTY release coincides with a final patch that adds new NPC summons throughout the game ala Scholar and BB's final patch, black phantoms and remixed enemy spawns in NG+ and adds in new items associated, like Ledo's set (his friendly sign can be used in base game for a couple bosses) and others

>Spears of the Church defence scaling is applied to all invasions based on amount of phantoms etc

>All weapons are now buffable and infuse-able including twinkling/boss weapons, but with different paths locked out on a case by case basis

>Staff wack is removed from all casting gear and instead, R2's now do a charged version of the spell, which simply allows you to hold the cast and delay it for as long as you want with slightly different sound effect

>All weapons placed in Left hand now function as they would expect to, some weapons will however retain an L2 parry, like Katana's and curve swords and rapiers did in DaS1

>Bare fists now scale with STR/DEX very well and are given a new karatechop style moveset like Bloodborne (see webm related)

fixd gaem
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whats so special about the divine spear fragment? What makes it different from the normal one?
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>>172917738
>tfw never get to fight humans for the spear of the church
>tfw I consistently gankspank as the spear of the church
I feel like i should be having fun but it would seem much more rewarding to beat the boss when its not that stupid NPC
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>>172917760
Friede's was recently nerfed. It's not any good anymore.

>>172917897
You didn't fix dex.
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>>172917717
The Ringed City is a big fuck you for the lore of the series. So many retcons that it isn't even funny. TRC tells us that the abyss existed in the war against the dragons and the Dark Sign is a limiter put in place by Gwyn.
Gael just eats the pygmies and goes mad. That's pretty much everything.
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>>172917760
nah, my build is pure dex, with a little str for build variety and solid vig, end, and vit for solid armor

been working out well, but i miss my str build something fierce
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>>172917897
>All weapons are now buffable and infuse-able including twinkling/boss weapons, but with different paths locked out on a case by case basis
This actually needs to happen to keep the game alive.
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>>172917717
The Ringed City is a city of the pygmies. After the war of the dragons, Gwyn got freaked out by how fucking ripped mankind was. He bequeathed his youngest daughter onto them, and through her sleep and through the egg, the Ringed City was kept outside of our time and reality, thereby keeping it outside of the stupid cycles shit that DaS2 came up with.

By waking up the princess you basically snap the city back into the present, where Gael devours the feeble pygmy lords.
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>>172917430
>people actually summon help for Midir
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>>172917931
uses mana

more strongk
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>>172917160
NO
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>>172917721
that huge sound is just the door coming together for the stance and doesnt mean anything. and any door user with a brain wont use the charge when youre actually far enough away to not get caught in the OUTRAGEOUS RANGE of the attack
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>>172918001
is it the last item you can get from the covenant?
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>>172917885
it does, its just not beneficial for anything that isnt an ultra weapon or great hammer
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>>172917820
>turns out magic is fucking useless
ftfy
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>>172917857
that sound kind of pointless
Say what you will about Dark Souls 2 but at leas the DLC there had some significant ramifications for lore, even adding an ending.
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>>172917659
real people do live there, alongside gods. each kingdom in a cycle probably last for thousands of years.
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what's your strategy against paired greatsword users? i call mine "dodge then poke from distance"
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>>172917992
Thus allowing Gael to end the cycles by creating an empty and dead world, all so some stupid loli can make a picture nobody will be able to live in because Gael killed them all.
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is that anon who was looking for a free crucifix still lurking? i know that was a while back buck im about to go fuck shira in the ass if you still need it (i already have one)
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>>172918039
yes, thats it

did u rike
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>>172917897
you forgot
>every weapon now has their own unique moveset and none is gimped on purpose
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>do some PvP
>every single person is using the psshh nothin personnel kid katana of darkness
Is everyone who plays Dark Souls an edgy 14 year old weeb faggot by this point?
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>>172917974
>Friedes was nerfed
WHY?

What the fuck am i supposed to do with my sl120 Friede build?

>>172917980
I wish you luck, fellow spear. I've been playing without looking up items so I'm intrigued to see what the 30 token reward is (probably some stupid shit).
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>>172917356

Profaned is quality.
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Going to make a sorcerer and only level int, at what spell should I cap out at thinking about stopping at 27 and using the +5 ring for soul spear
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>>172917819
i'll come along and try to give you a hand

use the pass dsg
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>>172918067
Hope they're not in a group, then punish whiffs because lolGaels
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>>172918042
its great for ganks when you have 2 phantoms chasing stuff around with paired ugs and katanas
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>>172918116
no need any longer anon, i ended up getting him. thanks though.
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>>172918108
>WHY?
Only strength builds allowed in Strength Souls 3.
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>>172918081
Gael didn't do jack shit. The wasteland you see isn't his doing, it's yours because you woke the princess.
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Anyone with gnaw or a bleed build that can help me on Demon Prince.
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Holy shit, I made a sl 70 sorc using Hysel's and this shit is so bad. The r1 into soul greatsword doesn't work anymore, and why are all my sorc's so fucking slow? Even perfectly spacing ultra r1's so I start to cast as soon as they swing is too slow. I can't hit anyone with anything except dart. Shit is terrible.
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>>172918157
aw dang. good job, then
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>>172918158
This is really fucking bizarre because I distinctly remember some months back people were saying it was Dex Souls 3.
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so, they made zwei great again or is it just lies?
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>>172918164
Everyone is dead because Gael devoured them so he could amass the Dark Soul, which he wanted to distill into a pigment for the painter. No dark soul, no flame, nothing is left.
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>>172918218
it's still dex weapons except for some reason they scale with str
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>>172918081
but why
what would the point of killing the pygmies even be if thats the result?
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>>172918115
Wat
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>>172918218
But it was Quality/Hollow Souls. Pure dex builds were pretty bad.
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>>172918102
Seriously, why do all the spears in the game have the exact same moveset.

Like, it's not hard. Just because it's a fucking spear doesn't mean EVERY SINGLE ATTACK has to be a poke.

Why can't a spear literally look and be held like a spear, but every 3rd R1 is a straightsword slash on one, for example? Or a Halberd R2 sweep on another?

They made this spear and then all the shite in Dark Souls 3. I don't get it.
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>>172918218
I think you are mis-remembering things. It was always Refinedsouls 3, dex has never been king.
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Is Midir really fucking hard, or am I doing something wrong?
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>>172914789
It's not overpowered but I wouldn't mind seeing it removed from the game one bit. It's like pre-nerf caestus parries; you could definitely outplay a parry flapper, but one little thing goes wrong and suddenly the match is in their favor, if not over. I feel the same about fighting lamo2UGS. Though that being said, I suppose they're closer to what I'd call well-designed than the crappy farron greatsword.
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>>172918284
Hilariously enough thats one of the blandest, shittiest BB weapons.
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If I'm gonna keep banging my head against Gael, can someone at least help me transfer a stack of Embers?
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>>172918195
Do you have sage+2?
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I've never made a sorcerer build before, so is there anything I should change?
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>>172918284
Partizan has a spin to win WA. But I agree. Honestly the new spear with the DLC should have a swipe since it has side spikes.
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>>172918253
TRC is just a detour, the final boss of the series is still the Soul of Cinder. The flame is still there and Gael just ate the pygmies. Which isn't a big deal because the city was in its own pocket dimension.
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I saw a video of someone wearing Ornstein's set and they had the red plume on top. I assumed it was a mod but apparently they patched that in after all these years since the first DaS??
what is going on? im shaking
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>>172918370
yeah
make it not a sorcerer build
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>>172918331
This. Rofl Spear is a mega meme compared to almost everything else these days
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>>172918284
because spears break when you try to swing them like a sword, not to mention the fact that they dont even come close to piercing armor
but im still fucking pissed that the dragonslayer swordspear has the fucking halberd moveset (which the second r1 is fucking awful)
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Is upgrading a shield to the max worth it?
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>>172918335
pc or ps4

i got a jolly co-op boner that needs using
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>>172918335
i'll do it for a dragonslayer's greataxe
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>>172918284
>No spear moveset where you hold it like a quarter staff

>bash people in the face with a blunt poke with the back of the rear handle, rapid 3 thrusts forward while staying in place for weapon art, R2 is to santiers twirl it

I'm still so sad santier's never made a return. Literally the funstick.
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>>172918218
Isn't the first time From overnerfed. Remember Faith?

>>172918260
Gael is an autist and wants the painted world to be preserved. He heard the pigment needed to be of Dark and decided he'd get the biggest and Darkest Dark ever for it. So he did that, and all without realizing that if everyone is dead then nobody will exist to inhabit the painted world.

>>172918409
Soul of Cinder is in the present, before Gael killed everyone.
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>>172918284

>every spear attack is a fucking poke
>the spear isn't even held at the end to take advantage of its reach, for some reason every spear is held in the middle
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>>172918328
>that last phantom hit
>wahhh this weapons should go

Fucking longswords should go you turbofaggot.
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>>172918370
Why 65 int?
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>>172918328

>pre-nerf cestus

I still have webms of that. The fucking horror.
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>>172916802
>Fashion mages
>Ultra heavies
>Sword and board
>Unfashionable mages
>Everyone else
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>>172918335
What SL / platform? If pc around 70 I will help you kick his ass. Or at the least drop embers.

>>172918356
Only Base sage. I can't fathom beating the game as sorc again, most of the game sucks dick as sorc.
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>>172918443
no

leave it at +9 unless you want to CE it up to +10
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>>172918370
to much invested into attunement imo
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>>172917785
>>172918057
You think it would be pretty neat to live at the golden age of a cycle?
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Where are the crow talons? I forgot to pick them up and now I cant find them.
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>>172918448
PS4. You wanna just kill Gael with me instead? I don't think beating him is gonna feel better after how beaten down he and Midir have made me feel.
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>>172918559
fuuuuck, i'm pc

sorry, friendo
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>>172918515
To actually live in? It'd probably be pretty neat. Magic would be at an all time high and you wouldn't get raped for setting out two feet away from a bonfire.

A game set in? Could also be neat.
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>>172911863
>nameless king will never be your big, strong, protective brother
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>>172918052
>a-also, DaS2 did it better
2fags
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>>172918370
consider using the domino mask, it's basically crown of dusk but for dark spells
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>>172918559
I don't think beating him solo is even going to make me feel better*

Christ, I can't even think anymore.

>>172918576
Oh, damn...
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>>172918559
I am >>172918486, also on PC. Sorry friendo.
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>>172918451
>Soul of Cinder is in the present, before Gael killed everyone.
Soul of Cinder is in the same timezone as the DLC. It's never implied that Gael killed everyone and even if that would be true, he did a pretty terrible job then because there's a ringed knight walking around and he couldn't even finish eating all the pygmies before we interrupt him.
The four endings of the game are still the only endings available for us. TRC has no impact on the closure.
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>>172918052
Dark Souls 2 didn't have lore worth anything before the DLC. The Shards of Manus stuff is more interesting than anything encountered in the story of the main game.
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>>172918486
Ask someone for sage+2 and you will see a big difference. I don't know if you will ever be able to land crystal soul spears though.
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>>172917897
>Spears of the Church defence scaling is applied to all invasions based on amount of phantoms etc
No thanks. Being an invader is the only thing that isn't casual as fuck.
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>>172918370
>SL139
>only 20 vigor
>over 30 att
>fucking 65 int
>hidden body
>deep protection
don't do that
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>>172918434
yeah but you can still mix it up a lot
>blunt bashes
>jumping thrusts ala ringed k***ht spear
>backstep pokes instead of kick like the curved sword backflip slash
And since they went full anime with the recent DLC,
>crazy monk-with-a-stick style stances with bashes, thrusts and fucking kung fu kicks
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>>172918642
Aldia and Vendrick experimenting with Dragons and Giants to remove the curse was pretty neat.
>>
What's the point of the WA for the oniichan katanas? Slow, shit damage, the jump doesn't even dodge attacks.
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>>172918652
I don't have enough int at sl 70 to do CSS anyways. I would ask, but I have zero DS friends. Also I am too much of a baby to try Collector's edition. Unless some nice anon wants to hop on pc and give me a sage +2?
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>>172918052
it is pointless
all of ds2 was also pointless with no lore at all that means anything to the universe
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>>172918637
>Soul of Cinder is in the same timezone as the DLC.
You don't reach them through the same zone senpai.
>It's never implied that Gael killed everyone That's the only way to consolidate the Dark Soul.
>There's a ringed knight
I'm sure this survivor will rebuild the human race.
>The endings
Are before Gael's rampage. So meaningless. They accomplish nothing because we know what Gael will do in the future.
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>>172918463
Never denied it pal, SS are the best weapons in the game
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>>172918783
Aldia wasn't really in the game until they patched him in later, so while that experimentation was interesting, it didn't really feel like it amounted to much.

Vendrick was and will always be a gigantic faggot.
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>>172918486
Get sage ring +2 and the preacher catalyst from dlc 2
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>>172918515
probably, it would be like most other high fantasy. you can still turn undead at any time for no reason though.
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>>172912005
>Gael is difficult
What? I thought he was the easiest. His moves can be predicted from a mile away.

Midir was easily the hardest.
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>>172918463
you can get phantom rollcatches with literally anything though, your hitbox basically just doesn't move to your new position after a roll until a couple frames after your iframes wear off
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>>172917689
Disregard, went in.
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>>172918785
Gives headshot damage if you hit the head.
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>>172918596
>you will never be gwyndolin's big, strong, proctetive brother
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>>172918879
>you have to be in NG++ for sorceries not to suck dick
Good grief. I'm scared to even fire up my sorceress from launch.
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>when you finally beat Midir after it feels like 50 tries
jesus christ that was hard, the fucker hits way too hard
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>>172919001
I found a friend.
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>>172918271
I mean i'm only going to level INT and am wondering at what stage I should stop. I want to keep low level because I enjoy just being a bot in co-op boss fights.
>>
about to "partake" in some dank souls lmao
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>>172918789
Ask in the thread faggot. There's always people giving out rings and ringed knight gear.

If your sl 70 you should be able to reapec and hit 60 int. Try using

>court sorc staff
>sage+2, bellowing, young dragon,
>either obscure ring or chloranthy+3
>preacher's feast
>>
start a new character right now and try to not say "fuck this camera" while fighting the first "pus of man" hollow.
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>>172918837
>kill gael in the future
>there are still things alive
and thats all we need. dont forget that the ringed city is its own little cordoned off place and theres other places with other survivors
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>>172919110
if only you could keep this going with more and more enemies chasing you
>>
I beat Midir 2nd try, after the first try taught me he's literally the Amygdala fight from Bloodborne with a different model.

You just stay infront of his head at all times and bait out and wait for the attack that leaves his head there to hit, and then just stay back from everything else

Really it's the same. Even the laser shit, you learn the pattern of the laser and then your gravy
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>>172919149
Stop at 60 int
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>>172919110
hilarious
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>>172919204
Again, how do you think one amasses the Dark Soul?
>>
Darkeater Midir is actually shitting on me in NG+, am I just a shitter or is he actually hard?
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>>172919307
Eat pygmy kings
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>>172919157
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/156151
This is the build I am using, only thing I am not using is sage +2 and I am using Fop 3, I don't see how I can do sorc without sacrificng something essential.

And if any kind anon could give me a sages +2, I would be very grateful. I am on PC.
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>>172919307
Turn out the lights.
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>>172916315
Storm King

>Manus
Favorite of all souls games, it's just a perfect mix of magic/melee, monstrous/humanoid and bestial/rational, with a fitting end to the dlc of das1 as a singular game if you considered the pigmy=manus theories true before das3 mostly deconfirming it

>Fume Knight
Despite me liking Gael and Artorias, Fume is a prime example of a knight fight done right (perhaps more than the ones mentioned earlier) , lots of moves and mixups, from reflex fast moves to tricky slow moves, enough hp to not fall to fast but also doesnt feel bloated and a hype 2nd forme because no worth mentioning boss doesnt have a "lets get serious" mode.

>Nameless
2nd favorite boss all souls games. Best presentation as far as base game goes, hard but fair (follows the rules above almost completely) amazing music, great arena, great design, and is the only boss to do "ancient decrepit god" fight right. While the lords in 1 were pushovers, they felt mostly puny(with Gwyn as the odd one out but then parry happened), Gwynson is the only one that truly gives the feeling of "man, what a badass, imagine him at his prime" and yes, i love the 1st phase as well, i just wish it was harder (more moves, hp, mixups, damage, etc) so it could actually top my list

Ludwig
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>>172919307
Kill nerds for the dork soul.
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>>172919358
more like post your fag art girls rofl
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>>172918837
Yeah you do? The bonfire to get to the DLC is in the Kiln
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>>172919149
If you want to do a coop mage, just literally level nothing but INT. You'll have a character around SL50-55 or so that will be able to hit hard against bosses but dies to a breeze. Pretty fun stuff.

THIS WILL MAKE THE MAINGAME A TOTAL FUCKING SLOG UP TO IRITHYLL SO BE WARNED
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>>172919372
Pygmy Kings aren't the only ones with part of the Dark Soul. Every single human has it. To get a significant chunk of the Dark Soul, you need to devour the humans.
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>>172919307
nowhere at all in the game does it say hes amassed the entire soul - and even if he has, there are always humans in every game that arent touched by the curse and never become undead, and the wouldnt have been hunted
>>
>tfw farron gs doesn't have the coolest moveset anymore

too fast
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>>172919358

Fuck this image reminds me of how hard I get every time Kalameet does that thing where he raises his tail and looks behind him.
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>>172919153

pls gib my sorcerer needs serious help
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>>172918837
>You don't reach them through the same zone senpai.
You do, actually. The entrance to the DLC is in the kiln and at the end of the first DLC. The kiln has the same design as the dreg heap, with everything pulled towards the flame.
>That's the only way to consolidate the Dark Soul.
He wanted the pigment, not the Dark Soul itself. The pygmies couldn't supply him with that so he ate them instead. Note that he hasn't even finished eating all the pygmy lords when we arrive.
>Are before Gael's rampage.
No they aren't. Gael's story just concludes the story about the furtive pygmy, nothing else. They weren't present in the previous cycles and them being killed off changes nothing.
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>>172919515
The 'curse' doesn't indicate you have the soul. Every human has it. It indicates that the decay of the age of fire is weakening the Dark Sign's hold on you. Gael would be eating regular humans too.
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>>172919153
>tfw getting blazed and defending my sleepy princess
Now I just need to get some Adderal.
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holy fuck the phantom range on the dual ringed swords is ridiculous.
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What if in the DLC, instead of the Spears of the Church covenant/boss, we got:
>Filianore's Ring
>Converts allotted Estus/Ashen Estus into HP/FP on equip
>Takes up two ring slots
>Plays a dramatic animation that you can't cancel of you putting the ring on, with a flashy particle effect emitting from you when it's fully on indicating the conversion has occurred
>When you lock onto a player wearing one, their healthbar is displayed where the boss health bar would be, with their name appearing above as "[name], [phantom type]"
So in a way players can become "bosses" without it being mandatory? Either that or just make NG+ and higher runs easier since you can afford to take more damage. Maybe it'd just be cancer.
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SO The Age of Dark is the good one right?
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How would a human Vendrick boss fight go?
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>>172919626
Nah, I love the Spears covenant.
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>>172912250
Albino is better 2bh
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>>172919458
just level normally and respec at the end
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>>172919605
>They weren't present in the previous cycles
What previous cycles? If you think a cycle has been completed instead of it all being fucked throughout the whole series because of Gwyn, then you have to recognize that Gwyn and the Pygmies were things since the fucking first.

>>172919657
Neither is good or bad, the only bad thing is artificially prolonging an Age.
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>>172916315
>1
its practically a cliche at this point but i fucking love Artorias. Great fight, great lore, great design. Honorable mention to Gwyndolin. Love everything about that fight, just wish there was more variety, maybe as second stage or something.
>2
Looking Glass Knight is easily the coolest, but Ivory King is a fucking epic fight
>3
Really tough one. I guess the Twin Princes, honorable mention to Yhorm.
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>>172912017
Sellsword Twinblades are still good. Blessed weapon is not good on Sellsword Twinblades.
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>>172919657

Yes absolutely. Don't listen to Age of Fire fags, they're not your not-hungry friends like me. Fear not the dark my friend and let the feast begin.
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I've come back to DaS3 after over 6 months. 60INT is still the only way to go if you want to not cast wet noodles, right?
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>>172919754
Gwyndolin really stood out in DaS1. Most boss arenas in that game are just fucking dogshit rectangles, so its nice to see something more creative.
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>>172919770

is blessed good on anything but offhand? lmao
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>>172919606
>every human has it
[citation required]
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>decide to help out church covenant boss fight
>get summoned
>church player dies instantly because he gets ganked
This boss fight was a mistake. If you solo it you get fucked, but if you co-op the summoned player gets fucked instead.
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>>172919535
We told you like yesterday to scrap it
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>Hey Koji-san, we've just finished rigging and item descriptions on this sword we won't use, can you find the Crest Shield files from DaS1 on the server and get them in the game?

>Sure thing Yosuke-sama, but I can't find the original sculpts and hi res assets, all I can find are the really compressed .dds files from ingame for DaS1

>That's okay, just use that, it'll be fine, no one's playing this game in HD or anything
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>>172919908
blessed weapon is a buff idiot
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>>172918325
He's the optional dragon boss of the DLC, those have always been fucking hard.
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I'm gathering info on the issues of PvP and how to potentially fix it for a petition. Please give me your ideas on how to fix it. I've seen most vids making fun of the pvp
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>>172919657
Finally from can make games about the new dark age. Dark souls.
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>>172919923
Do you not know what Humanity and the Human Dregs are? Did you just completely ignore the lore about the pygmy splitting his soul among his children, or how humans are just pygmies under the curse of the Dark Sign?

You're entering a knife fight with a fucking tack, anon.
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>>172919739
>What previous cycles?
There have been at least 6 cycles so far if we don't count DS2. The CU from DS1, Ludleth, Yhorm, Abyss Watchers and Aldrich have all linked the fire and completed a cycle plus the current one where Prince Lothric was supposed to link the fire but didn't.
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>>172916315

Ornstein & Smough
Ivory King
Sister Friede
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>>172920034
bring back ds1 poise and make heavy armor useful
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>>172915251
If the fight lasts 15 minutes then you just aren't doing it right. People who are trying to avoid attacks by constantly running between its legs or to the other end of the arena won't do proper damage. The fight rewards proper positioning and knowledge of how to punish each individual attack.

My last NG kill was just under 3 minutes with RKPGS on 40/16
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>>172919606
>Gael would be eating regular humans too
He didn't needed to consume entire Dark Soul, he just wanted the pigment for his lady to paint the picture with. He ate pygmy lords because their blood dried long ago, he had no reason to kill every human. Some of them were still alive, so Gael started to eat them not too long ago, when Ashen One shows up.
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Alright fags ill do 1 premium ms paint drawing for whatever request gets the most replies.

Ill be waiting
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>>172920069
Rare tiny black sprite found on corpses.
Use to gain 1 humanity and restore a
large amount of HP.

This black sprite is called humanity, but
little is known about its true nature.
If the soul is the source of all life,
then what distinguishes the humanity
we hold within ourselves?

humanity is NOT the same as souls
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>>172920076
Oh, you consider a cycle to be from the re-igniting of the flame to the re-igniting of the flame. To me, a cycle would be a complete circuit of the age of fire, then the age of dark, then the age of fire. Under your definition, the flame has never really gone out completely, it always keeps being rekindled. Yet as I said, all the shit involving Gwyn and the pygmies started with the birth of the first flame, it thus predates your cycles that began when Gwyn threw himself into the fire. They have always existed, they're not new.
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I hate to do this but can any kind anon drop me a sages +2 on pc? I want to do better at invading on my sl 70 sorc ivader e.e
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>>172920034
Make nearly everything infusable. Make elemental infused weapons spell-buffable. Change how elemental infusions split the damage or add another defense breakpoint. 95 dark damage vs 130 dark defense lets 20 damage through. This is why elemental infusions are so shitty, they take the physical damage below 150 so almost none of it goes through.
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Anyone got a spare Frayed Blade on PS4?
I can trade any none-DLC weapons/armor/rings for it.
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>>172912553
>More dragon fights
Am I the only souls fan who hates dragon fights. I know they're supposed to be tough, but they're usually bullshit onehitters.
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>>172920069
Humans and pygmies seem to be different things albeit related somewhat. Early humans were either a part of the abyss or at least used the powers of the abyss to create their equipment.
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>>172920034
1.make poison/toxic/bleed meta
2.increase caressing miracle to force levels of speed
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>>172916315
Artorias
Fume Knight
Champion Gundyr
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>>172920225
No shit. How is them not being souls relevant to anything? Souls =/= Dark Soul either.

>>172920323
Humans are pygmies under the curse of the dark sign. You need to play the fucking DLC again.
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>>172920296

IF weapons split damage they shouldnt also LOWER the damage
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>>172919397
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/162778

Maybe something like this could work but I think casters really need chloranthy other wise you don't have a lot of time to cast a huge nuke and roll reliably.

60 int is pretty much mandatory to be able to deal any damage. If you want it lower level then I'd consider dropping health.
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>>172915629
DS3 as a whole is about the futility of trying to cling on to a dying or rotting world which has fallen apart and needs to be allowed to finally die. The game is a meta-analogy for the series.
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>>172913139
>Souls ends
>Now is my time to create a channel on it
You missed the boat. Best thing I'd do is wait for From's next project and go full autism on it before Vaati does.
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>>172920346
Is bleed not a thing anymore? Jesus I've been gone from Souls for a long time, I was wrecking face last year with the dual katanas and the Carthas bleed buff.
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>>172920401
>infuse weapon
>suddenly it does double damage
no
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>>172920421
Yes, but that death is the death of the age of fire, not the end of existence. Only Gael rejects that entirety to kill the world to make an empty, stillborn painting world.
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>>172920264
It's a bit iffy now to conclude what really happened before Gwyn linked the first flame. in DS1, the undead iirc only appeared after the already linked flame began to fade, not when the first flame began to fade for the very first time, yet the Dark Sign which brands undead was, according to TRC, placed upon humans after the war against the dragons.
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Would a PC bro drop me moaning greatshield please ringed city streets bonfire pass is dsg
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>>172920296
So do what DS2 did?
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>>172919983
T A R K U S
A
R
K
U
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>>172920458

quality makes base damage go from like 100 -> 90
elemental makes base damage go from like 100 -> 50

it's ridiculous and bullshit
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>>172920385
you sited humanity as source for your claim that every human has a piece of the dark soul, but every person doesnt have humanity. you dont even know how humans are related to the pygmies now that theyve been given their own little sealed city where the race has all been contained, separate from the humans
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>>172920609
This is the Sages ring +2 guy. I will drop you the shield in hopes that paying some karma forward will prod someone else into helping me. I still need me a sages ring +2. Some kind anon help me please!
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>>172920589
Gael is from a legion of undead slave soldiers that were created before Gwyn linked the flame. So, no, the undead were around early.

>Placed upoin humans after the war
It was. That's how Pygmies became human. The Dark Sign conceals itself with the illusory appearance humans have, and then the humans' origins were concealed from them.
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>>172920218
Midir penetrating dragonsis' tight vagina with his big dragoncock.
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>>172920734
I'll give you one I'll put my white sign in ringed city streets bonfire for the shield
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>>172920767
I agree wholeheartedly
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>>172920718
>what distinguishes the humanity
we hold within ourselves?
We hold humanity within ourselves.

You're also ignoring Dregs.

>you dont even know how humans are related to the pygmies now that theyve been given their own little sealed city where the race has all been contained, separate from the humans
Holy fucking HELL you don't even have the DLC do you?
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>>172919965
only shitters get ganked as the boss.

the buff you get against 1v3 or 1v4 should help enough to take them out one at a time or you can just focus the host.
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>>172920218
Gael jumping and spinning in the air shooting his automatic crossbow while lightning falls around and the player is unable to move in awe
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what was the literal(metaphorical) point of adding angels to the dlc
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>>172920797
What a bro, I have the shield on my strength invader but we have to do it via red signs as I have beaten all the bosses in this area.
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>>172920385
>Humans are pygmies under the curse of the dark sign
"The arms of early men were forged in the Abyss, and betray a smidgen of life. For this the gods cast a seal of fire upon such weapons, and those who possessed them."
This sounds like humans existed before the dark sign was placed on anybody.
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>>172920218
If we're doing any souls game, then the polite anor londo umbrella pole salemen (expedited shipping included in every deal)

if just dark souls 3, farming silver knights for concords
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>>172920892
Early men = pygmies you fucking numbnuts.
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What's the best SL range for being summoned as a Spear of the Church?
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Asking again for either a stack of Embers (or help transferring them), or help with Gael, on PS4.

I'm down into the tens now (from 50) and I can feel myself going hollow.
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>>172920218
partaking feast meme pic
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>>172920982
Get the Storyteller's staff, no need to upgrade it, then use it on him until he gets poisoned, then again after he loses 3100hp, then twice again after he shifts phases.
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>>172913820
HOLY SHIT FUCK YES I FINALLY DID IT
i ended up needing a summon but fucking finally i beat this boss.

Normally i would be ashamed of how fucking horribly this boss fucked me but i at least beat it solo on another character before so i feel a little less bad about beating it with a summon here.
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30% dodge feels like unlocking a cheat code mode
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>>172920535
You're creating your own meanings there. The game doesn't go into depth about what comes after the age of fire, it doesn't say that Gael's fight is set after an age of fire, it doesn't suggest that eating the Pygmy Lords 'kills the world', it doesn't suggest that painting a painting kills the world.

It does spend a great deal of time pointing out that the fire is fading, that the current age is really fucked up, and that it's still fucked up despite the fire being linked many times previously. To link the fire is to try and preserve the status quo, to make another game in the same series using the same characters and ideas. Letting the fire die means abandoning the status quo because it's rotting, to search for something fresh and new, even if you're not yet certain what's out there.

The game is vague because it's supposed to convey ideas, not info dump you with the absolute specifics of the Dark Souls universe.
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>>172920982
password?
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>>172920718
>rare tiny black sprite
not everybody has it
im also going to ignore the part where you completely misunderstood everything about the ringed city
>>172920960
according to who and what?
nobody
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>>172920218
>>172921027
the last supper, but with locusts swarming over corpses using the magic branches as utensils
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>>172920982
>getting tilted at artorius 2.0

he's not that bad. I got him and I wandered into his boss arena by accident.
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>>172921107
"dsg" my man.
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>>172920960
The pygmies weren't associated with the abyss, though. They took one of the lord souls for themselves and fucked off. Also, all the pygmies we've seen so far looked feeble and weak, even the ones we see in the DS1 intro.
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>>172920982
I have some embers to spare. I suck at the boss fight, but we could try if you want.
Pass?
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how do you think people come across glitches like 'oh my god, infinite souls' or 'oh lord, overpowered weapon glitch', i wonder if they just hit every button on their keyboard or controller until they hit gold.
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>>172921115
for >>172920840
but fairly sure ur also the other idiot quoted
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>>172921165
be there in a tick
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>>172921147
I can perfect phase one most of the time, but I drop my speghetti enough in phase 2 that I can beat phase 3, if I don't just get OHKO'd, which is what usually happens.

I'm SL75.
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>>172920879
Back up your save so you can keep shield
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>>172916708
Pussysouls it. Work him down as far as you can melee, use your estus, then use a crossbow and chip him.
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>>172921171
If you wanna join the other anon I won't say no. Shall we wait?
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>>172921080
a lot of words to say 2 deep 4 u
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>>172921169
>The Abyss
From Manus, well after the dragon war.

Unless, Abyss is being used to refer to Dark, or other holders of the dark soul can create the Abyss themselves.

So, that word is meaningless outside that we know it's associated with Dark and bearers of the Dark Soul.

>The pygmies all looked feeble and weak.
Their looks are irrelevant.
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>coop gael for shits and giggles
>his AI just turns off halfway through the fight

bravo from
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Can i keep resetting the spear of the church boss to farm souls or does it not give you any after the first kill
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why did everyone hate AoA so bad

i started it about 30 minutes ago and it's kinda rad

lots of new enemies, and those fucking living trees man

glad i had my fucking greatsword of judgement equiped so i gave them fire

cant wait to start RC after i finish this one
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>Artorias wasn't Guts enough for Miyazaki so he went all out for the final boss of the DaS series
I wouldn't have it any other way.
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>>172921440
They hated it because Manus was yet another From boss that you had to cheese at SL28
Demon's Souls had Allant, Dark Souls 3 has Gael and Dark Souls 1 has Manus
Dark Souls 2 is just shit
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>>172921169
>all the pygmies we've seen so far looked feeble and weak
most of the undead in game look feeble and weak, doesn't stop them from using the greataxe, or in the ringed knights case paired greatswords, it's pretty clear that you can be a lanky corpseman and still hurl around giant weapons with inhuman strength.
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>>172921440
>i started it about 30 minutes ago and it's kinda rad

enjoy it you are 1/4th through
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What are some sliders to make the Iron Dragonslayer armors lower half not look like I'm fat as shit from behind?
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>>172920797
Thanks for the sages +2 ring my man, you are a good guy. Hope the shield being +4 wasn't a bad thing, I hope you block some nice shit with it.
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I've been having issues with intermittent freezing, it usually comes in two or three back to back three second freezes. Running a R9 290/FX8350 and using a wireless xbone controller.
I've tried disabling all HID's except for my controller, using multiple old drivers for my controller, reinstalling win10, installing on my SSD, reinstalling on my HDD, all of my drivers are up to date, I'm at a loss.
Any protips? It's driving me mad.
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>>172917430
Or, you know, git good.

It's pretty fun getting in there, taking out three phantoms, and then sitting as the player thinks of a strategy to take you out. Shitters are the best desu
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>>172921080
It tells us the Age of Dark follows. We know that Gael was collecting the Dark Soul.

As far as 'kills the world', what do you think happens in a world without dark or flame? You get what existed before. Which was nothing, except dragons and trees who sat around like rocks. Yet the dragons are dead, and so are the trees. So what will there be?

As for the painting, it's not that the painting kills the world, it's the painting is why Gael did what he did.

Also, to level with you? What you're doing is 'creating your own meanings'. That's what's intended for most of the lore, because they didn't have some vast grand complex lore doc they've hidden from us. They established a few rules, then just did whatever they thought was cool.
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>>172921534
>not look like I'm fat as shit from behind

that's just you, sweetie
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>>172920218
Irina and Rhea cuddling[/spoiler
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>>172920415
Whoops thats supposed to be a scholars ring and not a silver cat ring.
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>>172921440
Its fun but its just so fucking short, and most of the items in it are garbage, and now the cool scythe is garbage too. Onyx Blade rules though, get up in that shit.

Honestly though in terms of level design I think the Painted World is better than either the Dreg Heap or The Ringed City.
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>>172921450
>inb4 DLC is updated so that Guts is the actual final boss just because fuck copyright
>>172921440
Fire is the solution to pretty much everything in the entire series: Giant Slime? Fire. Bandits? Fire. Ghosts? Fire. Fire Demons? Yes, Fire.

Name anything that is immune to fire attacks one b.
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>>172921615
Hey
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>>172921440
It's hated because it's short, not because the content is bad.
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>>172921530
>30 minutes
>1/4
nigga hes just passed the halfway mark
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progress pic, this one seemed liked the most fun to draw, also gael gonna be a nightmare trying to draw with a mouse
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>>172916312
tdogRat
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>>172921404
>Their looks are irrelevant.
if all members of a group reffered to as 'x' look the same, and all members of a group called 'y' look different from x, then x = y
i cant find your logic, they are consistently named differently and have different characteristics
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>>172921643
>Name anything that is immune to fire attacks one b.
Fucking computer rearranging my shit
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Whever I go I must PARTAKE
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>>172921710
i was talking 100% completion amigo
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>>172921642
>now the cool scythe is garbage too
Had to get you ready for the new DLC's dex and int weapons!

Except all the dex, int, and dex/int weapons in the DLC suck. Except the one you get for beating all the fucking content so it's only for PVP.
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>>172913191
understand basic spacing and enjoy never getting hit. Determine latency by using throwing knives and checking when the bloodspatters appear
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>>172921440
The content within it is mostly good but its the shortest DLC From has made and has the least content of all of them. Even AotA had more and it was the one with the least content before AoA rolled around.
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>>172921717
>not partake or dragonporn
>disregarding which requests got the most comments

shit/10 now fuck off
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>playing Dark Souls 3 coop with a friend
>friend beat AoA, loved it but thought it was too short
>distinctly remember him talking to Gael as well as summoning him, as well as talking to painter loli
>end up watching him play to Slave Knight Gael
>cutscene rolls, boss name comes up as Slave Knight Gael
>he turns to me and goes "Who is this guy again?"

Oh man the /v/ shitters were right.
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>>172921753
Is there any reason to ever use farron flash sword now that preachers right arm exist?
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>>172921717
faggot!

you have broken your own rules
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>>172921749
His statement that the pygmies can't be a threat because they look weak is retarded. See >>172921529
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>>172918370
>Zullie The Witch
>The
>T

You philistine.
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Anyone on pc need help dragonslaying? I would be happy to partake.
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>>172921214
>>172921171
Thank you anons. Gonna try that shit on my SL87 quality next time and see if I can solo him then.

Now it's just fucking Midir one day...

Unlikely to happen.
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>>172921801
>>172921864

im sorry that i dont like to draw dragons fucking things,

seek mental health
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>>172921923
Just ignore the zoophiles.
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>>172921923
you also don't like upholding your honor to your fellow meme posters

begone to reddit
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>>172921923
The last supper with locusts has nothing to do with dragons fucking you dipshit.
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>>172921404
>From Manus, well after the dragon war.
That's DS1's lore. TRC states that the early men fought alongside the gods in the dragon war and that their equipment was forged with the powers of the abyss and that for THIS reason the seal was placed upon them. Which means the Abyss predates Manus by a long, long time.
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>>172916315
>1
O&S. Absolutely iconic, possibly the pinnacle of the entire series. No fight has felt as epic nor victory felt as good as the first time I beat these two.

>2
Nashandra, I guess. Even as a DaS2 apologist, I can't defend the slew of mediocre boss battles. I'll just go with her since I love her design, and it felt like an especially climatic ending with Aldia suddenly springing up at the end and putting me on edge.

>3
Gael. Absolute perfect mix of difficulty and fairness. Despite dying countless times, I never once felt overly frustrated or that it was because of cheapness (besides the RNG lightning bullshit near the end). Kept me going until I learned his patterns and adapted, like an even better (albeit slightly easier) Nameless King.

How about your guys least favorite boss in all three games?

I gotta go with Bed of Chaos, Royal Rat Authority, and Crystal Sage.
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>All these people I find butthurt that I drank estus in an invasion
>Same people then mock me for playing honorably next time they invade me
desu I think I should just play as Dark Souls would want me to play.
As brutally and mercilessly as possible, with no chance of letting up and total disregard for my safety unless it would cost me the fight.
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>>172922008
Nigga he's the father of it, he begat it.
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>>172922008
I like how you ignored the part of my post that was discussing that very thing. Read all the way through before you reply.
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>>172921923
>draw dragons fucking things
>fucking things
>things
>calling dragonsis a thing

you take that back!
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>>172921840
No, since it's unfit for FEASTING
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>>172922028
>*points down*
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>>172921881
i didnt say anything regarding the power levels of pigmies, the argument is about humans and pigmies being 2 different things, just like humans and the gods of gwyns family are different, because they have defining traits and physical characteristics to go with the difference in name even though they are relatively similar
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>>172922008
Hint: If your side in a lore argument uses retcons as a point, then you are acknowledging that lore arguments are pointless.
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>>172922041
TRC lore almost directly states that the Abyss was there from the very beginning of everything and even predates the coming of Fire
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>>172922028
>Didn't play like that in the first place with no regard for what other people think
That was your first mistake. What the fuck is your opponent going to do to keep you from doing it except bitch? Nothing.
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>>172916315
1: Kalameet
2: Sinh
3: Midir

>>172921840
for hitting multiple enemies, not to mention the partake arm adds some nice range to it.
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Would anyone be willing to drop me manikin claws?

I just fucked up the paleshade stuff and I need them. Pretty fucking stupid of me.

Pass is dsg, I'll be at church of yorshka bonfire I guess
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>>172915732
>good players open with R1
lmao easy parrybait
>good players
good joke faggot
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>>172921881
I've never said that they can't be a threat because they look feeble and weak, jesus christ man. They just look different than humans, that's all.
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>>172922028
disregard any shit anyone says about how you should behave in an invasion. The goal is to kill as many of them as you can and/or be a pest.

honour is for duels, but even regular duels still leave that up for debate. if people want actual honourable duels they go to the bonfire fight club.
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My favorite two bosses out of the entire series has got to be the Tower Knight and the Abyss Watchers.

I'm not sure if I watch too much anime or not enough.
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>>172922157
>I didn't say anything
Because you weren't who I replied to with the post you first quoted, you butted in saying some retarded shit. I can see from your posting style you were involved in other arguments where you said retarded shit, so I didn't reply to you, and only replied to the first guy I was talking to. I only reply to you now because you insist on saying retarded shit until it's acknowledged.
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>tired of DS3's disgusting brown/grey palette and sterile snow areas, hoping final DLC will add lush colorful green or maybe an ocean
>drop into Harvest Valley
>get to Ringed City, where they succeeded in covering everything in a fog of piss
>still the first area with the graves and white roses is really nice, loving the ancient city feel
>the rest of the Ringed city ends up being a long staircase leading directly to a black swamp

I swear to Gwyn I'm throwing the stupid painter through the fucking stained glass window if she draws another frigid hellhole.
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>>172922012
Least favorite

>Demons
>>172922012
Dirty Colossus is pretty shitty; every other boss is at least fun, has a cool gimmick, or some other redeeming factor barring this guy, so that's definitely my Demons Souls pick.

Dark Souls 1, Bed of Chaos

Dark Souls 2, Royal Rat Authority solely for the fucking toxic spawns it starts with, what a load of shit.

Dark Souls 3, Cursed Greatwood. Not even a contest, this piece of shit is easily the worst boss in the game.
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>>172916835
the more phantoms the easier it is for the spear though
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>>172922208
>They just look different
Except for the Undead, who come into existence once the power of fire fades, and bare the Dark Sign, which we know was placed on the Pygmies, and is powered by fire. Connect the single dot, dipshit.
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>>172916315
DaS1: Fats McGee & Beanpole Jack
DaS2: Fume Knight
DaS3: Really hard to tell, as DaS3 has probably the best bosses. I liked Twin Princes, Friede, Demon Prince, Midir and Gael in equal measure.
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>>172922028
>Invade
>obvious fight club
>run at the host and start swinging
>they all gank me to death
worth it
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>>172922041
just like gwyn is the "father" of fire
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>>172916315
Great Grey Wolf Sif
Sinh the Slumbering Dragon
Twin Princes
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>>172917408
try using twisted wall of light with affinity and great deep soul: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlHp7IqOsB4
Literally nobody is using this meme and people will constantly accuse you of cheating, pretty glorious. Just sad this trick doesn't work with deep soul dregs
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>>172922182
>and even predates the coming of Fire

That's impossible by the very nature of the setting. Before Fire, there was no light for there to be a dark like the Abyss.
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You know what would have been cool in DaS3?

>you come across an NPC you can free from a prison in Irithyll
>he says he's a weapon master, and he can train you to dual-wield weapons, then warps to Firelink
>throughout the game you find weapon scrolls that you bring back to the weapon master to unlock weapon combinations, like coals with Andre
>you can purchase "weapon pairing" services from the weapon master, where you specify a weapon for left hand and right hand (no already paired weapons can be used), then pair them together like old DaS2 power-stancing
>the requirements change to 1.5x Str and Dex of the highest of the two weapons, and weights are added plus a 0.5 to 4 unit "tax" depending on the highest weapon class of the pair
>each weapon still scales like they did before being paired, but is "displayed" as the average of the two
>the upgrade level of the weapons returns to +0, and upgrading them now requires 2x the more valuable of whatever upgrade material either weapon uses (Scales > Twinkling > Titanite, you need either 4/8/12 Titanite or 2/4/8/16 Twinkling/Scales and then 2 Slabs for +5 or +10) at a cost of 1.5x the sum of upgrading both individually
>any infusions are also lost, and infusing can now only be done if the weapons could be infused before, infusion costs are same as above, requires twice the amount of gems and infuses both as they would be individually
>you can un-pair the weapons at any time, which gives you back the originals at whatever upgrade level and infusion they're currently at
>R1s and R2s use the moveset of the right-hand weapon, L1 does the combo attacks of the specific pairs from DaS2
>WA of the pair is generic depending on the specific pairing, like various stances, stomps or spins, so pairing two katanas won't let you do the Onislayer for example
>there's a secret scroll in Kiln that lets you pair special weapons, like DSA's greataxe and greatshield, Pontiff swords, Artorias weapons, with unique WAs
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>>172922453

>dark can't exist without light

??
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>>172922183
I was experimenting with some weapon movesets to see what I should upgrade to +10 during PVP, Invaders started sending me hatemail when I didn't feel like dying, then next time round they still lost after I played honorably, thus why I feel like I should just spam high damage moves like the 2ugs combo + WA.
>>172922218
Makes me want to go Mound Maker just to crash a few fight clubs near Pontiff Sulyvahn.
>>172922142
kek
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>>172922028
Duels = Honor

Back in fight clubs, if someone started drinking, everyone ganked them. No exceptions. Dueling is a gentlemanly sport.

Invasions = Be the biggest fucking nigger you can be
Use force to push people, backstab, hide, range, run at low health so they can't use a bonfire, anything. Your job is to annoy the player, to kill them, or to generally be a pain.
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>>172922058
There's no reason to think that the abyss should mean anything other than the abyss.
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>>172921923
I rike it anon
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>>172922391
Except nothing ever refers to Gwyn as the father of fire. It's like you're trying to draw a parallel between a line and a fucking circle.
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>>172922471
This is hilariously terrible. I'm glad you're not the game developer.
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Can I wear the Spears of the Church Covenant anywhere and still get summoned?
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>>172922515
Did you even play DS1?
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>>172922552
This, dueling is for sport, if someone invades you however, you are the sport
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>>172922331
It's easier if the group doesn't know what they're doing and let themselves get split up to be whittled down. 4v1 spear gets a ton of poise and defence but even that doesn't hold up against 4 players with bigger weapons cornering them. if you get body blocked you are fucked. Also poise doesn't mean shit if you have two phantoms distracting or turtling up while the other two pepper you with arrows, magic or whatever.

the only times i see spears win a big gank is when they are ignored in favour of the painting guardian and are free to attack a single phantom or host.
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>>172922515
Yes, exactly.
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>>172922302
>the light of the world fades
>wonders why the colors are muted
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>>172922453
I think we can assume that the Pygmies tapped into some primeval darkness that was around much like the first flame. After that it gets sketchy. Maybe Manus later tardraged and woke that shit back up again.
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>>172922453
You're wrong. The DaS1 intro is an allegory more than anything.
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>>172922370
It says it was placed on early men, not pygmies. If you assume that pygmies are humans and the words can be used interchangeably, then yes, your point makes sense.
But this isn't implied anywhere.
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What ring should I wear to complete this?

>Clorathy
>Havel
>FAP

I need the havel and fap for fashion.
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>>172922572
Except that it's being used to refer to something the pygmies did, before Manus' freakout. You also ignore the other solution I provided, that those with the dark souls can just innately create an Abyss.

And as you were told earlier, if your argument relies on retcons, then you acknowledge that the lore is a meaningless mash.

You have a bad habit of ignoring a post except for one sentence that is easiest for you to complain about too.
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>>172922471
>there's a secret scroll in Kiln that lets you pair special weapons, like DSA's greataxe and greatshield, Pontiff swords, Artorias weapons, with unique WAs
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>>172922515
there being silly gwyncucks, ignore them
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>>172922731
Did you just miss the Ringed Knight completely? I'm not even telling you to go back and read all the lore, but to look at the fucking enemy model.
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Is it wrong of me to just bring along every person (NPC) I meet and for all main characters (the player) in all DaS games to meet and take on a much bigger threat than normal?
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As time goes on we seem to be getting more and more people who didn't play all the games and DLC trying to argue about the lore, such as >>172922515 . It's really painful.
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>>172922515
In the year 1000ad, do you think people would have ever described themselves as being "offline"?

If light doesn't exist, how do you describe the concept of its absence? If light doesn't exist, can't there even technically be an absence of it?
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>>172922746
Steel Protection
Or some utility ring of your liking
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>>172922746
Life. The only three rings in the game that are worth anything are life, fap, and havel.
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>>172922515
>>172922453
>>172922182
Manus or furtive pygmy found the dark soul and likely created the abyss.

Then shared his dark soul with the pygmy lords.

Finally abysal knights get recruited to help fight gwyns war and he gets scared and seals them
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Dear little Ocelotte DLC when
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Are SL60 duels still a thing? I really don't want to make another SL120.
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>>172922919
There are also enough obnoxious lorefags who don't look at every angle and state their headcanon as facts.
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>>172922756
The way the item description is worded implies that the abyss is something that a) already existed and b) can be used to forge weapons and armor. This also doesn't need to be a retcon per se because it is stated that Gwyn locked the pygmies and the early humans away in a pocket dimension.
He intentionally kept mankind's true form and power away from the world, so it would make sense to label the abyss as something that is evil and was only recently created by an abomination i.e. Manus.
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>>172922756
>the pigmies
no, humans
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>>172922725
If we can throw out the only literal words we have describing how events transpired so casually as that, how can we actually discuss them? It's meaningless to attempt to talk about the lore without at first assuming that we have that much to go on.
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>>172922985
I'd argue cloranthy is really powerful too especially on casters or aggressive builds
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>>172921169
>feeble and weak
FEEBLE CURSED ONE
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>>172922674
just run circles, they'll chase, turn around couple of R14s and repeat.
Or if you're a pussy keep running circles till the painting guardian respawns
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>>172923038
I don't know about 60, but there's people at Pontiff, Undead Match, and both DLCs at 70-80.
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So do dark sorcery's bennefit from normal sorc rings? Like the dragoncrest rings? I know they have their own clutch, but I can't find any info on the specifics.
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>>172922985
If you only care about dueling. Which is for casuals who can't handle invasions.
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>>172923038
50-60 at pontiff
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>>172923108
Rolling costs nothing. When you run out of stamina you back up and roll until it's full again. You won't even need it with good stamina management since you get 179 stamina with fap+3. Chloranthy is still better than the rest of the shit rings.
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>>172923141
>R14s
What the hell kind of controller are you using?
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>>172923152
>So do dark sorcery's bennefit from normal sorc rings?
bellowing and young dragon ring work for dark sorceries
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What if I don't partake?
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can someone post webm or screenshot of gaels sword flip + crossbow shots move? need it for my drawing
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>>172923224
Nice, I wish they'd state that so it would be more well known. Any dark sorc's worth using? In pvp of course.
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>>172922756
Who's to say Manus didn't father the Abyss ages ago, but it dissipated on his death? The Abyss in Oolacile could be the rebirth of the Abyss as easily as it had been assumed to be it's birth prior.
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>>172923196
what part of aggressive backs up and dodges away waiting for stamina to regen
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>>172913948
I hope he never makes a feaststick video

It needs to stay a hidden gem
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>>172923284
Manus could have been the pygmy, the original pygmy, who fucking fathered the Abyss way back then.
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>>172923098
Yes, but the Ringed Knights tell us that Abyss warriors fought alongside Gwyn and the Gods in the Dragon War. Which means that the Abyss already long existed before the Dragons were defeated. Which at least implies that the timespan between the discovery of the lord souls and the death of the dragons was much, much longer than the DaS1 intro suggests.
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>>172922849
You mean how they look like human/undead and aren't the crippled little guys like the lords and the dude at the entrance of TRC?
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>>172923029
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6vCZdcp6hE
fuck your dear little Ocelotte

I don't need nightmares.
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>>172921527
>kinda rad
>>172921530
>>172921642
>>172921643
>>172921676
>>172921789
therefore is short =/= bad for the average /v/tard?

that's the kind of people that actually believe that bethesda's games are good

holy fuck i hate 4chan sometimes
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>>172923196
You don't understand how much stamina spells cost. The play styles completely different than a melee build.

If you are sword and board then sure you can back off whenever you want and punish with relatively little stamina cost but with nukes you may not have the opportunity to cast until you've alread rolled through multiple hits and if you cast a nuke to punish and your stamina dips into the negatives you can easily die from missing a roll.

It's very different from swinging a straight sword and punishing with very low stamina cost.
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>>172923389
>Which at least implies that the timespan between the discovery of the lord souls and the death of the dragons was much, much longer than the DaS1 intro suggests.

The intro doesn't suggest shit for a timescale. It's chronological, but doesn't give any sort of reference about the length between the events.
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>>172912427
Try to see what attack gets you, then spend a few blank tries seeing how you can avoid it, no care for damage. Most attacks are pretty standard and you don't even need to look at him to know where he's hitting.
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>teleport to the kiln
>oooh, what a view, have another teleport
>oh hey, you want to actually play this area? Teleport to it!

Why? Why not just walk?
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Hand it over, that thing, your...
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>>172923532
At least it comes off as if the events transpired in pretty rapid succession.
Now we can say for certain that it actually happenbed across several hundred years, if not even thousands.
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>>172923419
short = bad when you pay full duration price for it
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>>172923504
Casting is terrible. If you want to run shitty playstyles then any ring can be good.
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>>172923589
...Ringed Knight Greatswords +5
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>>172912553
Gwyn didn't paint a world and the age of ancients wasn't either dark or cold. Gentle maybe, because there are no forces causing agitation.
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>>172923589
DARK SOULSâ„¢ III - Season Pass on Steam
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>>172923284
Yeah kaethe obviously knew something everyone else didn't know
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>>172923397
I guess Ludleth isn't human because he's a crippled little guy.
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>>172923271
>Any dark sorc's worth using? In pvp of course.
affinity, twisted wall of light and great deep soul is bread 'n butter. Deep soul dregs is good if you're not alone, else you'll never hit it
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>browsing YT for DS3 vids
>receive ad for a trailer for The Ringed City DLC
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>>172923589
fully upgraded crown you got from king Vendrick that literally stopped the undead curse that everyone forgot about even though it seems like it'd be pretty helpful right about now
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>>172923641
>At least it comes off as if the events transpired in pretty rapid succession.

Maybe that was your interpretation, but that would have been a pretty dumb interpretation to start with.

>several hundred years, if not even thousands.
And where are you pulling these numbers from anyway?
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>>172923221
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>>172923589
DARK SOULSâ„¢ III: THE FIRE FADES EDITION
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>>172921591
>It tells us the Age of Dark follows.
It doesn't actually. More to the point it doesn't even tell you what an Age of Dark is. In DS3 if we take the Londor/Dark Lord ending as the Age of Dark ending, then that's only presented as one option. The End of Fire ending doesn't specify an Age of Dark, it only specifies the end of the current age. The firekeeper's little flames in the darkness hint at something new to be found, but the important part of this ending is simply that you're ending the current age without knowing what comes next.
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Zullie or someone, please put up a size comparison of a player character and a pygmy side by side so we can see how big they actually are.
The dude you talk to by the first bonfire in the RInged City struck me as... not actually all that little, just hunched over and crawling on the ground.
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>>172923838
Building a civilzation takes time.
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>>172923687
Are you just pretending to be dumb? Chloranthy makes casting builds far better and that's not even mentioning that Chloranthy is also really strong on aggressive builds.
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>>172923553
The swipe > breath kills me if the swipe hits me since the breath is inescapable. The mixup he has after he releases all the humanity is what kills me if I even get that far. Sometimes he bites, other times he slams his hands.

But basically he's killed me with everything. A run can be going perfect, then I lose control of the camera for half a second and die because of his various wombo combos. I can roll them consistently if I can see them, it's just the goddamn camera spazzes out out unexpectedly a lot. It likes to break lock when he does certain attacks, and trying to follow him if I have to pan along the wall or the floor if I'm looking up gets me killed since it slows the camera's turning radius considerably.

None of which would bother me so much if he didn't take over ten minutes to kill.
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>>172913018
>no bloodletter/bloodlust
>>172913163
~490 on head, half on legs. I used several weapons though, that's just the one I beat him with. Also, about 1100 with a charged 2hr2
>>172917546
This is pleasing
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>>172915939
Yeah all this good armor and shield combos but they're so fucking heavy, shits honestly pretty retarded considering how little armor really does.
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>>172923828
a magical crown that briefly stops you from going hollow doesnt really mean much in the grand scheme of the entire fucking world falling apart over thousands of years. its not mentioned at all because it was just a dumb meme reward for playing the dlc
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Destroy all partakers
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>>172923929
Jumping between "several hundred" to "thousands" is a pretty large margin of error for this kind of thing. If you're going to be that vague, it's hardly even worth saying.
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>>172923969
>the breath is inescapable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxeLdJEhE5A
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>>172924065
Destroy Tanimura and Midir.
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>>172924009
idk lore wise it seems like something at least worth looking into
Im a dark souls 2 apologist who thinks it has the best pvp in the whole series but i still gotta say that 2 really threw a wrench in the lore with a lot of stupid shit like the crowns and abyss fragmentation that went nowhere.
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>>172923763
There's different races in the Dark Souls universe that all pretty much look like humans. Quelana is the daughter of the Witch of Izalith for example and looks like a human yet isn't one. Gwyn looks like a human but he isn't a human. All the pygmies we see look like small, weak and in the case of TRC crippled humans. They're also called pygmies and not humans.
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>play DeS
>beat it
>master parrying
>'fuck man now I can't fight anything fairly, I just parry it instantly'
>play DaS3 for the first time
>'oh fuck this is just gonna be another parryfest where I can parry everything and there is no challenge whatsoever'
>can't parry shit
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>It adds like +8 AR

damn FROM outdid themselves
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>>172924109
>if the swipe hits

And fuck off you cheating mustard faggot. I don't believe for a second that that was NG7
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kinda surprised nobody has made a spear of the church build with the golden ritual spear
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>>172918218
DS3 has only ever had a handful of real "Dex" weapons. Katanas and Curved Swords have been good in PvP, but these weren't actually Dex weapons. They're more effective as Quality.
Actual 16/40 or 20/60 Dex is extremely limited and poor.
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>>172915607
Yeah but the sorc/cleric doesn't start with 0 int/fai. Even if they start as knight, they only spend 51 points while pyro spends 26*2.The difference is miniscule anyway and pyro gets much better toys.
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>>172923896
the londor quest is called the 'usurpation of fire' in the games achievements. in the cutscene you simply take the fire into yourself, rather than burning yourself on the fire. id guess that the end result is probably the same, either by you eventually burning out or by somebody else killing you to link the flame
>>172924117
same. theres a lot of weird shit they threw in that cant really be reconciled with the other games
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>>172918997
>your hitbox basically just doesn't move to your new position after a roll until a couple frames after your iframes wear off
This isn't true. I swear it's just one guy in here still circulating this meme.
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r8 my fashion souls
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>>172924194
>this mad
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>start ng+ because muh slabs
>remember I forgot to get the one from the lady in the church after killing midir

FUCK
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>>172924313
>id guess that the end result is probably the same, either by you eventually burning out or by somebody else killing you to link the flame

I don't think this is what happens. By absorbing more and more sigils you create a hole that is big enough to swallow the first flame, something that hasn't happened until now. Either the flame gets linked or it dies out, if it is rekindled it will fade again and if it goes out it will reignite itself.
But you took the fire for yourself. Also note how the dark sign/sun in the background changes from orange/black to white/black in that ending.
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>>172924174
it's intended for 2-12% equip ratio builds
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>>172924487
Fuck yes I'm mad. I want this whole fucking general to know much I hate that stupid fucking boss. I want From to know how much I fucking hate that fucking boss.

If I could turn on infinite HP or some shit and just kill him, I would. The boss is such fucking bullshit and I'm not ever going to stop being pissed off about the joyless hours I wasted today trying to kill him.
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>>172923969
Stop playing with lock on retard
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>>172924414
but it is. the game hasnt finished updating your position on the other guys screen so it registers a connection, on your screen youve finished your roll already so it doesnt register a dodge > you get hit
>>172924487
in'n'out is better you inbred midwestern motherfucker
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>>172924117
>>172924313
The Children of Dark are actually pretty easy to square away in the lore.

>Pursuers
>Sorcery of Manus, Father of the Abyss.
>Grant a fleeting will to the Dark of humanity, and volley the result.

>The will feels envy, or perhaps love, and despite the inevitably trite and tragic ending,
>the will sees no alternative, and is driven madly toward its target.

So we have already there established that Manus could impart a "will" onto the Dark and create semi-autonomous beings from it. The Children of Dark are a progression from there, being simply large quantities of Dark that have been imbued with Manus' will.
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How much poise do I need to out hyper armor a one handed ugs swing when I'm 2 hanging a ugs? I'm mad as fuck
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>>172924516
>after killing midir
she only gives you that if you haven't entered the church

otherwise you have to kill her for it in gael's arena
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>>172924537
the sun goes gray when you take the flame for yourself, isolating it, but the flame doesnt go away. you still merge yourself with the flame, kindling it the same way you would while normally linking the fire. its only a matter of time until it returns to its proper place
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>starting my 8th character right now
>still haven't completed the game
Send help
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>>172924562
even then I think it still adds like 15% tops, which is less defense than RoSP adds regardless of equip weight
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>>172924562
what kind of fucking build is that
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>>172924861
The worst part about Dark Souls 3 is the first 2/3's of the game, though.
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>>172924861
why havent you beat the game anon?
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>>172924586
I'm sure you'd still find a way to fuck it up. If fighting him is joyless, then just don't? No one is forcing you to.
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>>172924414
It's exactly how I rollcatch every single time. You wait for the roll to end then swing where they were, then watch then flinch from a mile away. Works with anything that does damage.
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>>172924562
t. it's for cheesing things with bows and magic from afar and people speedrunning with no armour on.
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Remember guys

The end is never the end.
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>>172924804
The sun has the same color scheme as the humanity sprites. I'd say the flame is gone for good.
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>>172924646
>but it is. the game hasnt finished updating your position on the other guys screen so it registers a connection, on your screen youve finished your roll already so it doesnt register a dodge > you get hit
Alright that's a better description. Back in the DS2 days there was unironically an argument going on about whether or not your hurtbox moved during the roll. Not even a network latency argument, people thought the rolling hurtbox didn't move in PvE.
The hit at the end of the last webm is legit, but looks strange because of the delay before the hit is confirmed. The sword swing clips feet during the roll, but you have to wait for the other player to confirm over the network that they were hit. During this delay the roll continues, and then after confirming the hit you see their stagger animation play from the centre of their position, miles away from where you actually hit them.
On the other player's screen it probably looks like you stabbed them from another planet.
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>>172924690
children of the dark were never that far of a stretch, its definitely the least of that games issues
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>>172924861
how

I'm no speedrunner but after my third playthrough I can now run through the whole game 100% in 2-3 hours with reliable knowledge on where good shit is. funny how it takes 30-60 hours on a first playthrough but then the games areas seem really small and trivial once you know how to get from point a to point b.
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>>172924646
What? I'm not even americunt, you dolt.
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>every third nigger I invade in the DLC is called "Ashen One"

I hope you fags don't do this
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What's a good a mount of VIT to have on a STR build running Paired UGS? I need my fashion armor bad.
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>>172925136
>he didn't name his characters aftergreek gods and effectively cosplaying them and their abilities
WOOOOW
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>>172924961
This.
There is almost no freedom of progression, so it's always the same boring slog.
Glad that respecs are a thing.
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>pontiff dog bites infront of me
>stand way behind his jaws
>still hits me

bravo
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>>172925183
mugen monkey added the new shit so you can check there
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>>172925123
>posts tolo vid
>doesnt know memes from his channel
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>>172924562
No it isn't.
It's not based on equip ratio, it's based on total actual weight. If you're naked or wearing rags with a light weapon, you get minor benefit. If you're past around 30 total weight, regardless of %weight, you get no benefit.
It's still not good.
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>>172925006
>If fighting him is joyless, then just don't? No one is forcing you to.
That's why I'm here rageposting.

He's the last frontier. I've got to do it eventually. Or I thought I did. No fucking boss fight is worth ten minutes.
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Is the 5 respect per new game cycle or per character ?
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>fuck around in Irithyll, farming for the knight armor
>hear some sort of growling/screeching noise
>'it's probably just one of the slaves'
>kill the entire street
>run back down to the bonfire
>hear whatever the fuck it is
>'i thought i fucking killed everything'
>walk around for about 2 minutes trying to pinpoint the noise
>see a path that I hadn't noticed
>remember seeing it earlier but not caring as i was focused on armor
>'ooh, where does this go'
>goes to a locked gate
>'fuck me then'
>see evangelist hunched over
>growling screech noise coming from her
>'oh, how do i do thing though'
>walk around for another 5 minutes trying to figure a way in
>finally find a secret after a fucking message points it out
>walk down
>feel something atmospheric coming up
>jump down into the pit
>feel ambush incoming
>lock onto evangelist, expecting her to do some exorcist or grudge shit
>grab item
>slowly approach
>backstab
>she fights like a normal evangelist
>kill her
>no more noise
honestly the creepiest thing I've encountered in the game since the dungeons when I first entered.
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>>172915939
how much vitality, holy shit?
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>>172925319
Per NG
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>>172925279
I didn't post that vid, only the post that he replied to with the swipe, yo which someone else replied with the vid
>>172925297
Have you tried hitting the head? BTW, has anyone tried to plunge him?
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>>172925365
that's doris, the mad evangelist who was driven mad by the deep
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>>172923969
>None of which would bother me so much if he didn't take over ten minutes to kill.
If this isn't a broken sword run then you're doing something horribly wrong. Getting good damage is just about being positioned properly to punish everything.
Somebody already posted an NG+7 SL1 run in 7 minutes, here's NG in about 3 minutes:

https://youtu.be/L-zg38y2zDg?t=2m30s
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>>172925446
>Have you tried hitting the head?
Of course. I'm basically trying to emulate the SL1 dude's strats. Hitting his head makes my damage go up from ~120 to ~230.
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>that fucking backflip you do when you get knocked back using a greatshield

holy shit, could they bring ninja flips back? the animation is already in the game.
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>>172925560
Why is your damage so shit? He is weak to strike damage, so try a mace
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>Slain the last dragon of the last DLC of the last game in the series.

wew what a journey this was.
Mimic was kind of ass, I hate anything with the Bloodborne "flailing around madly" design, but I gotta say, felt really nice to know I've completed the final challenge.
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>>172923969
>lose control of the camera

People still use lock on for everything? Sad.
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>>172925758
>>172925758
>>172925758
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>>172925560
What the fuck are you using? I dealt ~500 on his head. Does he get super defenses on ng+x or something? Don't tell me you summon.
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>>172925810
He barely gets any more health with extra NG. His damage increases a fair bit though.
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>>172919416
>perfect mix of magic/melee
Too bad silver pedant shits all over his magic attacks. They should have removed this silly item.
It was also pretty obvious that Manus is not a pygmy, since he doesn't know art of the lifedrain.
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>>172923896
Is Dark Souls 3 your first game?
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>>172921067
Put on carthus bloodring in addition for added swag
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>>172924130
>They're also called pygmies and not humans.
There seems to be a preoccupation among the ignorant that things can only have one name. I would ask them if they had ever heard the infamous line from Romeo and Juliet, but I already know the answer. You may as well ask why the legends talk about one pygmy when we see several, but you gloss over it.

>Small
This is the same argument that the misshapen hollows and such you see can't be human, a baseless assumption.

>Weak
As are the undead.

You're simply ignoring what the game says because you really don't want humans to be pygmies. The way the humans and pygmies bear the dark sign. What is said about gwyn fearing both. How we know both possess the dark soul. Yet you strongly insist humans can't be the pygmies. Why is that?
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>>172926229
Which part of DS1 gave you the impression that there were only 2 options? Was it perhaps the 2 creepy serpents trying to manipulate you into either killing off the remnants of the gods, or burning yourself alive?
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Should i go str faith for my next build or pyro?
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>>172924223
That's an issue with the sharp infusion that needs to be changed.
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>>172926494
The problem with unreliable narrator arguments is that we can apply them to literally everyone, and thus we are forced to conclude that we know nothing at all and can make no conclusions on anything. So while it can be argued, if you'd like, not to trust either serpent, dismissing what they say outright is essentially a null position.
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>>172926706
The Serpents aren't narrators, they're explicitly manipulating you, they don't agree with each other, and more to the point they don't even outright say what you seem to be suggesting. The whole Fire/Dark cycle idea is built out of community memes, it got a bit too much traction in some vaati video or something and everybody just ran with it.
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What is the lightest pure Str weapon?
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>>172927676
Everyone is manipulating you. So no one can be trusted. Yet to discount everything they say as nonsense without thought like you is to declare we know nothing and can argue nothing.

>Cycle
The cycle is. The Age of Dark is not.

You come across like someone who watched an LP, or those same lore videos, and didn't play the game, or only played it years ago.
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>>172926461
>Yet you strongly insist humans can't be the pygmies. Why is that?

I don't insist, I'm merely pointing out that your argument isn't supported by the games. Pygmies and humans could very well be the same thing, but this isn't stated or even implied in Dark Souls. So we either have different names for the same thing or two names for two different things.
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>>172928502
>You come across like someone who watched an LP, or those same lore videos, and didn't play the game, or only played it years ago.
NO U?

This conversation started with you outright stating that Gael ends existence to make an empty stillborn painting world. You think I'm unreasonable for pointing out that the game doesn't say that anywhere?
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>>172922697
>it has a lore reason for being bad so it's okay
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>>172912191

Mildred is our girl

She even slings shit
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>>172916315

O&S
Velstadt
Gael
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>>172928925
>this isn't even implied
See, it's lines like this that make it clear you haven't played the DLC or have a strong personal reason for your views that you're not telling me.
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