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Muh boi edition

Warhammer II
Steam page:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/594570/
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Previous thread >>172795910
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Orcs > Gobs
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>>172841378
Beast > Orc > Gob
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*overcasts you and kills 5 dudes*
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First for power of humankind
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>>172841468
*The hundred others get back up*
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I'm early today, better make a joke


History
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>>172841468
*overcasts you and kills 463 dudes*

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You are hanging out with your bros when this fucker rolls in and slaps your infantry lines. What do?!
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>>172841468
I am curious as to what gameplay changes have been made in the next game
They have been constantly tweaking and improving stuff in the base game so I expect the legendary lords will be strong, at least.
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>>172841594
Just come back to Warhammer, haven't played Empire since release, did they buff Gelt?
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>be oldfag anon, hosue car, kids etc
>reading twg on a lazy sunday
>fags are talking about AOS
>Do some research

Holy shit. This has to be what getting old feels like. I don't get AOS at all. What's the appeal? It's like he-man I guess? With lots of Warcraft?
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>>172841409
>Beastmen will never not be a Chaoshit race
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>>172841625
>*annihilates enemy army*
>"pshh, nothin personel, chaoscuck"
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Can I win this?
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>>172841723
Gelt's new campaign effect is giving +10 armour to everything on the campaign map
Lore of metal got buffed and vortexes have been made a bit more effective
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>>172841625

W-What are my autoresolve chances looking like?
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>>172841723
Yeah and they also buffed lore of metal & vortex spells in general.

They can now do insane amounts of damage if you can get their dudes to clump up.
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>>172841787
Nobody knows why it happened. It's like when you're on a ship and a rogue wave slams into the bow.
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Is there anything to expand on with Norse factions or Kislev?
What units could you add?
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well, this is scary.
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Why does Empire get so many Wizzardos?
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>>172841986

Kislev yeah, boyars and shit

Norsca, not so much. The further north you go into the chaos wastes, the more rapey the tribes become, Hung and Kurgan are literal mongols if I remember correctly.
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>>172841849
you're shitting me right anon?
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>SETTRA DOES NOT SERVE" he shouted, trembling with rage, "SETTRA RULES
>tfw will never get to play this mad lad of a skelly
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I tried
I failed
DeI is not for me
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>>172842126
They have like 600 chaos knights (cavalry) reinforcing
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>>172842049
whats the mod ?
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>>172841986
>Kislev
Kossars - mobile frontline infantry with bows/two handed axes
Ungol Horse archers - self explanatory
Winged Lancers - charge cav with a spiffy wing on the back
Streltsi - handgunners with halberds
Ice Witches - damage dealers
Hag Witches - spirit based debuff stuff
Bear mounts for lords
Cheka - Witch Hunter replacement
Boyar - Captain replacement
Priest of Ursun - battle priest replacement, also with a bear mount
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>>172841986
Well, Kislev used to be an army in WHFB.
Unit types present in the army book:
>Boyars
>Kossars
>Winged Lancers
>Ungol Horse Archers
>Gryphon Legion
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*Blocks your way*

What do?
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>>172842089
They just have colleges of magic n shit.

They'll probably need to think of a new system for wizards in the next expansion because High elves get all the lores of magic as well but having to pick between 8 different wizard heroes would be kind of tedious.

Wood Elves are actually meant to have just as many wizard choices as empire but they left it out for some reason.
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>>172842229
Why didn't you like it?
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>>172842282
start a glam rock band
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>>172842282
you know what
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>>172842282
*unzips dick*
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>>172842282

*shoots you from a mile away*
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Well, do I turn this place into a city or leave it as a comfy yurt camp?
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>>172842282
Smite druchii harlot.
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>>172842234
you got halberds & that.
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>>172842301
How about just one Wizard, and that Wizard has 8 skill trees, going down one excludes others, etc. Sort of like Wood Elf lords can specialise in either Bows or Swords, and Gorebulls can specialise in Defence or Attack auras.
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>>172841625
Turtle up in a corner with several units occupying the same ground making it easy to trap the chariots. Assuming they attack me, of course.
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>>172842310
Too slow paced in battles and campaign.
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How should I rank up the Armchair General?
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>>172842282
Read her some poetry. Chicks love poetry.
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>>172842534
christ that thing looks heavy

>>172842569
I want to cuddle that so hard
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>>172842098
>Mongols
>further north than Scandinavians
What the fuck do the horses graze?
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>>172842534

Lightning strike, and then down the red tree.

Also get the high king unique trait. In combat he's not that good in 1v1 fights though, so avoid enemy heroes/lords with him.
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>>172842657

BLOOD
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Here's the cream of the Hellenic, Persian and Steppe nobility, patrolling in Oxania making sure that there are no rebels to bother me.

>>172842235
EB2

>>172842395
I wanna smite her with my Kontos if you catch my drift
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>>172842635
>cuddle
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>>172842725
Makes sense, I guess.
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>>172842274
>>172842278
So i take it that Norsca is pretty bland then?
No other units?
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>>172842757
Where's all the blood? The first Welf should pretty much explode?

but yes I'd cuddle those weird hair metal elves all night long and then hold hands
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>>172842929

They don't show any blood in advertisements trailers so they can pass off the trailer at a lower rating.
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How have you guys leveled up Skarsnik? i have gone on the blue line to get lighting strike reinfocsments and then to red line to get gobbo buffs, which in total give like +40 to all gobbbbbos
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>>172842929
SIGMAR FORBIDS THIS
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Any good mods for playing as Norsca? I just want to raid and fight, not spread Chaos and usher in the end times. I mean sure, the Greenskins are basically that, but I'm bored to death of playing Greenskins by now.
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>>172843018
>ANGRY MAYAN LIZARDS ON FUCKING DINOSAURS
God I hope the lizards are gud.
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>>172841259
feels edition when?
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>>172843018
>crutching with lightning strike

don't worry anon one day you'll get good
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>>172843223
whatcha feelin
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>>172843245
Well, unlike you, he atleast still has a chance, right?
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>>172843018
I just ignore the blue line with Skarsnik, since he gets lightning strike by default anyway. I take Route Marcher and invest the rest into the GOBBOS and put leftovers into combat.
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>mfw silly ratmen try to invade and get slaughtered by the millions
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>>172843308
>tfw want to play a TW game but dunno which
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>>172843245
i really dont know what this meme is about lighting strike
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Thaggoraki? More like FAGgoraki!

Queek Headtaker? More like QUEER HeadGIVER!
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>>172843063
Never tried playing as Norsca, maybe try it through Crynsos' Faction Unlocker stuff?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=841631800
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Oi I haven't played Empire since before the update

Is Franz still the best LL to pick?

I understand Gelt finally got some decent campaign buffs
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So I finally stepped up from normal to hard. I noticed that the enemy armies in battles are too stationary, it would be ok when they use dworfs but even with fucking Vampire Counts they just stand there until I get quite close. A lot of times I can snipe the shit out of them without any form of punishment

Hell I even remember a match against Greenskins, I was like 30 meters from their army yet all they did was sending few troops to slaughter while the others remained in formation
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rattle ratte mr bones

Good god, its so fucking annoying to rely on your Trebuchet and archers to do all the work ...
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>>172843438
Trivializes the entire game after you unlock it
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>>172842929
They're not Welves, they're Delves.
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>>172843398
Play the one with the period you like the most.
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>>172843018
All gobbo upgrade skills, getting weapon strength and waaagh in the yellow tree and route marcher.
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>>172843585
Witch-Elf
Welf
Though I do see the confusion, maybe I'm using the wrong term. Aren't the others called
tree African Americans
or faggots
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>>172843637
Pike and shot doesn't exist outside of mods that haven't aged very well.
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>more elfs

BREAK OUT YOUR EAR ARMOR MAH BOIS
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>>172843735
I think you may have cofused /vg/ with /v/.
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>>172843513
Yeah, I suppose that's about the only option. Damn the shitty Norsca unit selection.
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Why does cinematic for Warhammer 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXxe897bW-A
is so much worse than that for Warhammer 1? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjzLuddjIUI
Is this because of lack of goat narrator and how short it is?
>>172843801
Play Americas for Medieval 2
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>Warhammer 2 instead of new historical game

I expected it but am still disappoint
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>>172843975
History is boring
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>>172844047
You are boring
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>>172843975
>>172844047
>>172844067
Please, let's not do this again
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>>172843958
It would be great if Teclis narrated it.
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>not formally announcing Skaven despite giving every possible indication of Skaven

Why?

For what purpose?
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>>172842534
Don't listen to >>172842669 only cowards take lightening strike, it makes the game awful.

Take red tree up to rally and then take yellow tree & get all the % buffs.

The health buff is great for Thorgrim cos he's already got an insane amount of hp.
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Which skill trees should I specialize in for Karl, Thorgrim, Grombrindal and Vlad, respectively?

Should I bother getting at least enough points in the blue skills to get Lightning Strike? Should I even bother putting any points into Vlad's spells other than the Invocation/Healing spell? Should I max out the blue skill tree for Grombrindal?
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Are the Glory unit mods any good?
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>>172843975
>I expected it
You should have known it since they announced they were doing this ages ago.
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>>172841259
So what happened to all the 'muh engine' fags shitposting about Warscape for years and how it could never have good cavalry charges and unit collision?

It's like it was the number one shitposting topic for years then just disappeared after Warhammer?

Will they be back for something else?
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>>172844067
This doesn't disprove my previous statement
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>>172843958
It just feels haphazard with the way it suddenly and somewhat awkwardly shifts to Lizardmen.
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>>172843958
Warhammer 2 teaser looks like almost pre-vis level, maybe they just grabbed some stuff they had lying around and cooked it up. Definitely just a taste. The main trailer will be at E3, with full narration and such. Trust me, my dog works at The SEGA Workshop
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>>172843331
are legitimately saying this game is too hard to play without lightening strike?
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>>172844184
>d how it could never have good cavalry charges and unit collision?
uhm fucking kek did you ever fire up M2 and charge cav into something?

Those people were always retards and everyone knew it
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>>172842171
Yes you will.
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>>172844157

Skaven Pre-Order exclusive DLC
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How does one have fun playing Total War: Attila? Asking for a friend.
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Does anyone have the video of those toads dressed up as aztecs and conquistadors exploding and shit
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Can I start a siege battle, kill a bunch of their dudes with a bunch of artillery / archers until I'm out of ammo, and then just withdraw and attack their weakened army next turn?
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>>172844157
Probably to play with "skaven don't exist" meme
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>>172844157
My guess? Skaven will be the central focus of the next trailer which they've alluded to showing at E3 or around that timeframe. Hope you're having a great weekend, stay safe.
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>>172844401
our horses love blood

burn shit
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There are people in /twg/ right now who haven't watched the full 26m13s EGX presentation from CA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUFAqa3gzl4

>>172798671
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>>172844401
Embrace Squalor
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I predict that skaven will be pre-order bonus but available to all after a few weeks to avoid the chaos pre-order debacle, and that's why they are only hinted at in the trailer
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>>172844369
https://twitter.com/totalwar/status/847842652762537984
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>>172844539
There was a separate talk about engine improvements at an AMD event
Old engine with 25000 instances in 13.5ms
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>>172844401
Sieges yo. Or try playing Frank's or Saxons?
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>>172844575
Who will they lock behind preorder then?
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>>172844157
Vamps were neglected until very late in the marketing of the lead up to TWW1's release. Helps to build hype to have some fresh suprises up your sleeve.
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>>172844683
Kangz.
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>>172844573
I honestly doubt that. MAYBE a week if they're even preorder at all.
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>>172844683
SSJ Karl Franz
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Lizardmen gameplay released

https://youtu.be/c3arwHaziWI?t=49
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>>172844575

Legendary Lord/Unit/Map pre-order exclusive DLC then
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>>172844658
New engine with 125000 instances in 9.5ms
Much better core workload distribution
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>>172842282
>*Heh nothing personal bitch*
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>>172844103
This, Teclis as narrator with Cumberbatch voice and with better shift to Lizardmen like >>172844205 said
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>>172844573
They game info page says four (4) races at launch. Or do you think they'll bait and switch us and give is Tomb Kinks as the fourth race instead? That would be DEVILISH
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>>172844756

don't forget the Slann ability breakdown

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHU2RlSCdxU
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So when can we expect screenshots, skaven info, gameplay etc? E3?
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Do Lizardmen have artillery or they just rely on Slann dropping magic nukes on everything? Been a long time since I read any of the books
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leaked lizard man gameplay
oh shit you won't believe this lads

i know this kid that was roomates with darren in college, look at what i have

he just sent me leaked lizard man gameplay
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fug
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>>172844229
There will be only in-engine LL introduction videos.
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>>172844943
>Killing Cairn Wraiths all on his own
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>>172844575
>all four will be in the game without a preorder
>not "all four will be playable without a preorder"
This ambiguity scares me.
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>>172843535
Both Volkmar and Gelt are awesome. I'm on my Gelt campaign now. Do it
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>>172844838

I'd say yes but then they'd be hard-pressed to scramble together four races for the third game's launch

That would leave, what, chaos dorfs, Ogre Kingdoms and maybe daemons of Chaos?

There's Nippon, Cathay and Araby obviously but no one gives a damn about those
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>>172844920
You could have an Engine of the Gods mounted on Stegadon.
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soooo, why the disgusting female voiceover in the warham intro? the one with the proper sound is like a million times better
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>>172844920
Magic artillery like luminarks mounted on stegadons
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>>172842171
Settra does get used though
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How come there isn't any female dwarf warriors?
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>>172843975
History will be back. In the meantime you can play one of the nine fucking historical total war games already out. Shogun 2 and Attila are still amazing.
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>>172845106
Third entry is all about Chaos isn't it?
Maybe a faction for each of the five Chaos Gods?
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>>172845189
Because there aren't that many female dwarfs.
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>>172842282
that elf looks like a tranny, an unconvincing one at that
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>>172845189
The patriarchy.
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>>172845129
everyone in warhammer gets raped, abused, pumped. dumped and left as the cumsluts of chaos.
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>>172845189
There are, you just can't tell because of the beards.
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>>172845189
There's probably an actual answer to this in one of the books, but it's probably due to the scarcity of female dwarfs.
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>>172845306
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>>172842282

Introduce her to my dinosaur
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>>172841259
Are the dark elves allied with chaos?
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Questions my friendos.
What are the relationships between the factions and tomb kings? Who gets on with them, who they like? Who tolerates or just plain hates em?
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>>172845106

hobgoblins
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>>172845532
They did ally one time to raid Ulthuan. Chaos cuslts are forbidden by Dark Elves though.
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>>172845532
Yes and no. Some sects of their religion border on Slaanesh worship, and they certainly have many alliances of concenience with chaotic forces.
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>>172845532

Khaine, no!
They're just anti-High Elves.
And pro-Slaanesh.
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>>172845245
>five
You mean Horned Rat? Does he have his own demons? Or am I being memed
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>>172845649

Didn't that get retconned hard?
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>>172845697
Malal
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>>172845534
Kangz and Cunts don't get along.
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>>172845534
Pretty much neutral with everyone. Most Tomb Kings dislike vampires though.
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>>172845534
Most factions don't have a relationship at all with them, since Nehekhara is a long way off and just a distant myth. The arabyans respect them and stay the fuck away apart from one city where there's some mixing of undead and humans. chaos don't seem to like them (might just be the undead thing) and vampires hate them. Greenskins occasionally go pillaging but there's no enmity beyond the usual.
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High Elves don't realize that this exactly is the kind of attitude that makes everyone want to raze their shitty island to the ground and kill them all
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To you lore buffs out there:

Could Nagash represent a third unique undead faction?
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>>172844157
I think they will have a skaven focused trailer when they announce the release date
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>>172845189
IIRC female dwarves are too important to be sent into battle, you have to remember that just like elves, dwarves have problems when it comes to reproducing. So women are kept as away from battles as possible because they are too vital
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>>172845532
Not often, but they do get paly with skaven often, afterall the delf economy works on slaves and Skaven are always buyin
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>>172845731
Ok but he is even less relevant than the Rat. What demons does he have?
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>>172845791

Oh hell, no.
If Nagash ever wakes up, it's the End Times all over again.
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>>172845935
I'm not that guy, so I have no clue.
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>>172845785
It's mostly the dark elves who want to do that.
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>>172845791
4th, but sure i guess
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>>172845960

Isn't Total Warhammer set right before the end times anyways?
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>>172845785
It really is amazing how a simple smug attitude can make a person want to commit genocide. In this regard, I applaud the elves.
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>>172845791
It will only have one new unit of monsters, Manny, Neferata and Arkhan.
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How do I into Beastmen economy?
I cant even afford a full stack.
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>>172846136
It's okay to have negative income

You must raid and loot
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>>172845785
Humans were created by the Old Ones too, same as dwarves. But their gods existed and some even walked the earth right? This might be what the elf meant
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Next OP pic please
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>>172845758
Id like to see that if Araby comes about they are buddybuddy with tomb kings, ive heard lore snippets where entire communities of the living are protected by the dead, almost like their ancestors are fixated on keeping them safe beyond the grave.
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>>172845791
He could be a faction, but if he returns he would squat vamps instantly and could probably take control of the tomb kings so that neither would exist anymore. Possibly he could have access to vampire count, tomb king AND some original units, and then arkhan and neferata could be mortarchs and it makes sense for them to have a mix of both units.
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New in engine trailers when?
From the best to worst

Dorfs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL7pBMxdX6o
Bretonnia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60WQUG3XW3M
Vampire Cunts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj605sogy3I
Empire https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epK0ouN0l7U
Welves https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoiks2rQa9o
Greenskins https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUjtF0YYZ1c&t=10s
Beastmen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ds1ZsQAISeM (Fucking impaled helmets rather than heads kills this trailer)
Chaos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLFztSaD908

But none from Warhammer can compare with this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7TCFkdFr6g
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>>172846215
Stop pushing your shitty OC.
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>>172846053

Aaaaaaaand thank you for starting the "Warhammer Three is the End Times" hype again.
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>>172845532

>rules_of_nature.jpg
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>>172846246
>not posting the best trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5v6hPr6L7U
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>>172844776
TWW already processes turns much better than attila
and it can go even faster?
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>>172844573
There is just that no dlc for dlc policy. I dont know that much about fluff but wouldnt the skaven be one of the best dlc milking cows there is
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>>172846246
>Greenskins not way up there
Dat shaman
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>>172846197
The way I read it, the Elves have two texts which cite two different creators of the world: the Elven pantheon and the Old Ones. However, the High Elves consider both texts to be valid. To reconcile this, the human asserts that the High Elves consider their gods to be Old Ones, or the Old Ones compose their gods.
The elf, being a cocky and smug motherfucker, basically says "lol no" without clarifying some blatant contradictory information.
tl;dr high elves are condescending fucks, nothing more
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>>172846053
I don't think so.

Franz has only just become emperor when TWW starts.
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>>172846246

>Welves above Greenskins

u wot
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>>172846491
So the elf gods didn't exist the same way Sigmar and dwarf gods did?
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>>172846491

You ain't seen nothing about elves being condescending, not yet

>helf tells imperials that sigmar ain't shit
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>>172846053
It's set in its own timeline, which seems to be closer to Storm of Chaos than End Times.
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>get a new PC
>warhammer 2 coming out

Oh boy I hope the system reqs aren't bonkers.
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>>172846053

Nah man

This is how it works:

TWW = Storm of Chaos (Canon says Archeon invades, gets stomped by Empire/Grimgor)

TWW2 = elf shenanigans

TWW3 = End Times
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>>172846223
Yeah Ka-Sabar, which was basically the forge city of the tomb kings, has human occupants and the guards are undead and tirelessly patrol the walls while the humans live inside. Also the city is hwere the TK made airships/dirgibles, which hopefully might carry over to AoS since there's a few air based factions coming out. Undead flying egyptians might redeem End Times.
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>>172846441
Sure
The engine isn't multithreaded that well and it's bound to be cpu limited given the nature of the game
There are processors with 16 threads available right now that won't destroy your wallet but they wouldn't be more useful than a 4 core processor for total war, and that should probably change if they want to make historically accurate sized battles for some games
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>>172846780
nah it should be ok , i have an almost potato computer and i can manage to turn in on max graphic without the fan going insane
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>>172846818

>Canon says Archeon invades, gets stomped by Empire/Grimgor


>Empire/Grimgor

what.
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>>172846658
All of that is completely reasonable though. A bit butthurt, but diplomatically speaking the humans have obviously gone over the line.
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>>172846818
Ball stomped more like.
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>>172846656
Different gods can exist simultaneously, but the Elven records cite two different creators of the world. This is contradictory, so there must be some form of reconciliation. Either one document is false (according to the Elves, this is not the case), or both documents portray the same story with different names for the creator gods. Again, the High Elf just tells the human that the latter is wrong without offering an explanation.
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>>172845785
The Elven gods are the mortal survivors from another galaxy so he's not wrong.
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>>172846780
They'll be exactly the same as this one.
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>>172846246
>Fall of the Samurai trailer
As much as it pains me to say, you're right anon. That trailer was masterfully done.

And yeah, it's a bit retarded that a series where people scream "Blood for the Blood God" and "Skulls for the Skull Throne" is so fucking concerned about showing violence.

Like seriously, you can't show heads on a stick but it's fine to show an arrow being driven into a helf's skull as long as no red stuff spews out? Rating systems are pretty retarded.
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>>172847083
>. Either one document is false (according to the Elves, this is not the case), or both documents portray the same story with different names for the creator gods
Or there are various forms and aspects of creation.
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>>172846930
In the original storm of chaos campaign it was basically a shit show, GW didn't get the result they wanted so they basically put the end result to a vote. People voted that Grimgor kick Archaon's ass, and he kind of did so quite literally.
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>>172846930
Grimgor kicked Archaon in the balls so hard his entire army routed and ran for chaos wastes. This is canon.
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>>172847274
They can push the high end higher though, like they did from Rome 2 to Attila (speaking purely about graphics here)
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>>172847281
>"Blood for the Blood God"
>game has no blood
>you need to buy it separately
>but that's fine because the guys shouting "blood for the Blood God" are DLC too
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>>172847335
But that's not how that works. If you say X created the world on its own, and then that Y also created the world on its own, that information is blatantly contradictory given the provided information. This is where an explanation from the Elf would have been handy, but nothing of the like is offered.
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Imperial holidays are pretty metal I'd say

And bewildering. I wouldn't know what the fuck if I saw this shit for the first time.
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>>172847439
>but that's fine because the guys shouting "blood for the Blood God" are DLC too

Touché.

>>172847434
I think the point that anon is making is that the next games need to be the same graphically, and performance wise because they are all meant to be combined together. Doesn't make sense to try to improve the graphics to a noticeable degree, because it would make the first game's assets look bad.
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How did heavy cavalry avoid killing their own troops whenever they do those flank charges on an avil? Wouldn't some of their own men get crushed?
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>>172847545
>fantasy creation myths and divine shenanigans should conform to my middle school logic
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>>172847571
What is this?
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>>172846246
Beastmen are one of the best u fag
Also no dorfs are not so good Bretonnia is pure kino should be number 1
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>people mentioning Storm of Chaos

Now that's a nostalgia kick

>GW: the players are going to decide how the story goes by playing out the battles on the tabletop!

>Chaos players get stomped EVERY SINGLE TIME and so can't even get into Kislev

>GW: Uh something happened and now Archeon is at the gates of Middenheim because reasons get playing

>Chaos players lose EVEN HARDER to players from every other army

>GW: FUCK FINE YOU ASSHOLES JUST VOTE FOR WHO YOU WANT TO WIN

>players vote for Greenskin victory even though they aren't present at Middenheim

>GW: FUCK ALL OF YOU WE ARE NEVER DOING THIS AGAIN
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>>172847638
They're only peasants.
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>>172846930
Chaos & Empire are fighting so orcs join in looking for a good scrap.
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>>172847679
You should probably have a logical doctrine or explanation for such a blatant contradiction, yes. I shouldn't be able to poke a hole in their religion with what you call middle school logic.
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>>172847716
>players vote for Greenskin victory even though they aren't present at Middenheim
Well, they were definitely asking for it
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>>172846053
Everyone should simply ignore end times and AoS and just enjoy the warhammer world

GW won't last forever
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>>172847702
if i remember right its from an event before a revolt from the mages of altdorf
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>>172845189
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Is it even possible to confederate with other Welf factions as Durthu? Should I even bother trying to be their allies or should I just declare war and conquer the area myself?
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>>172847702

It's a celebration of Morr, the elder god of Death in the Old World. The guy who is supposed to keep your soul from being called back into the mortal world and enslaved by a necromancer, or being devoured by the Chaos Gods.
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how anyone can be excited for end times is beyond me

ALL of you could write a better story.
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>>172844401
Read up on the period.
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>>172847716

>players vote for Greenskin victory even though they aren't present at Middenheim
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>>172847928
You confederate once you unlock the ability through the Oak don't you?
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>>172847716
holy shit my sides
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>>172847571
Reminds me of discworld
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>>172847780
It's a good thing you aren't, then. Logic based on a lack of information isn't sound just because you can't fanthom that your information is lacking.
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>>172847957
The only interest I have in the End Times is outright averting it and giving the middle finger to Chaos and the Mannlet.
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>>172847910
And I guess while we're on the subject.
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>>172847716
Well played
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>>172847957
I probably couldn't, not because the End Times isn't terrible, but because I don't think I could write anything in the Warhammer style.
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>>172847083
WHRP is not canon as it was made by different studio, going by GW canon elven, dwarf and human gods are ascended mortals like Sigmar and Lileath.
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>>172848040
>it's a good thing you aren't, then
But I am. I said that more information would be nice, such as an explanation from the Elf. But, given the current information (the Old Ones created the world on their own, but so did the Elf pantheon because ???), there's a pretty big contradiction. It's not like the Elf says "oh, they both created the world" or "well one had a bigger role than the other." The texts have some flat-out contradictory information, and I'm not sure why you're so stubborn and aggressive about this.
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>>172847716

>mfw this is exactly what led to the garbage fire that was End Times
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>>172846246
>tfw will never experience the horror of hyper aggressive release welves again
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>>172841468

Why not a great frog instead of a fat man? Why a Navel? Why dat ass? Why so many burritos?
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>>172848179
I'm just talking about the info provided in the passage. I'm not a lorefag by any stretch of the imagination, but I thought that the text was just a simple and funny example of High Elves being smug fucks.
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>>172848179
Desist.
It was canon before the End Times and honestly the End Times reads like bad fanfiction, especially everything involving the gods.

I mean, they made Shallya into Taal's wife. Even though Taal's wife has been Rhya for thirty fucking years.
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>>172848239
>I acknowledge that I don't have enough information but my reasoning and conclusions must be correct anyway
Who's being stubborn?
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>>172847910
I swear, the dwarves are only prosperous cus they havent got their dicks to think about and sate
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>>172847716
>GW got so mad they retconned everything and got Chaos winning everything in ET

You will never be this mad at a game
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>>172848434
Whatever you think, even Creative Assembly uses GW latest lore with Lileath being Lady.
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>>172847957
That's right. I'd call it
>Warhammer: Dawn of NobleBright
And set it after the end times
Basically Sigmar goes BACK TO THE PAST and removes all grimdark from the world. When do I get paid?
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>>172848179

> Sigmar and Lileath

You take that back
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>>172848481
>but my reasoning and conclusions must be correct anyway
Way to put words in my mouth. I think I gave a pretty fair interpretation of the given information, and I stand by that. But you're basically going "lol no way, but i won't provide anything from the text which explains my masterful thesis to your infantile middle school mind." You're betting on uncertainty and skepticism.
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>>172848591
myrmidia best goddess.
>tells people to use their grey matter.
>no fanatical bullshit
>qt
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requesting that slann story about how they are childish and stop talking to each other for fucking nothing
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Are any of the community maps any good?
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>>172848835
perhaps
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>>172847716

Yeah I remember Storm of Chaos

>mfw Tomb Kings for some arbitrary reason were lumped in with Chaos

Was a weird time
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>>172846246
See chaos trailler, wow they are fucking cool.

Play as them in campaing, wow they are awful

Why?
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>>172848286
>Playing archaon
>Chillin in norsca, doing quests and stuff
>turn 100+
>get the campaign victory screen before I even got to see the empire
>Elves have destroyed bretonnia, the empire and some other human factions
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>>172848785
Too bad her knights don't even say her name.
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>>172847957
I would just make it go back to a state of "no fucking impending doomsday" and maybe do some minor civil war stuff with the Empire. Basically more grounded conflicts between the races.
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>>172846658
>spelled myrmidia wrong
THAT'S A GRUDGING
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>>172848734
I think you're reading a bit too much vitriol into my posts, I never meant to imply as insulting as that. My apologies if it came accross that way.
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>>172849007
At least the Empire captains do.


MYRMIDIA GUIDES US.
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>>172848835
Many! Helms deeps a popular laugh
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>>172849092
Oh I thought you were being smug and condescending with the "middle school logic" thing and fantasy lore being unfathomable to me. I'm sorry for being butthurt.
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>>172849007
>don't scream her name like autistic fangirls
>still manage to rek ass and do flaming damage.
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So if third game is End Times is everyone going to immediately go to blitz into Sylvania and kill Manny?
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>>172849252
fire damage is useless, only a few units have regeneration or weakness to fire

it doesn't even bypass armor or anything
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>>172848572
Lady was always an elf.
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>>172849243
I just meant you were assuming too much about the simplicity of the issue and that it could be solved so neatly. Sorry if I upset you.
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guys are those okay "multi-purpose" loadout or should i hang myself?
What can i improve?
What should i boot?
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>>172849457
No worries man, I really shouldn't get upset about fantasy religion on a board for video games.
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>>172846930
Let them believe it, it really was quite sad for grimgor
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>>172849494
vargheists are extremely weak

change them up for crypt horrors and get a mortis engine too
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>>172848179
>WHRP is not canon
They are technically last two editions happenned in different universe.
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>>172849591
>mortis engine
where do i get this
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>>172849591
>vargheists are extremely weak

Well only against really heavies also they can fly away from too much trouble if needed.
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>>172849494

>No Vampires in Isabella's army
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>>172849747
DLC
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>>172849819
well i don't have that
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>>172848434
Just to illustrate how retarded the Taal/Shallya thing is for the non-warhammerfags:

Taal is the masculine god of the hunt, the wilderness and male fertility. He's a big bearded dude with antlers and a spear. In fact he's basically just Orion, which isn't a coincidence because a lot of the elven gods correspond to human ones, Mathlann/Manann being the most obvious example.
Rhya is the feminine goddess of the rural, agricultural, female fertility and childbirth. She's depicted as a woman with a sheaf of wheat in one arm and an infant in the other.

For the vast majority of Warhammer's history they have been husband and wife - two sides of the same coin. To the extent that one of the WFRP books mentions that in the distant past they were worshiped as a single nature deity called Ishernos.
The End Times just arbitrarily made Taal's wife into Shallya, goddess of mercy and healing.
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>>172849504
S'cool, I'll try not to come across as being insulting in the future.
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>>172848572

>even Creative Assembly uses GW latest lore

I mean, they also use WHFRP

That's where they got 100% of their info on Alberic for instance
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>>172847736
But morale
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Someone explain warmbloods to me

I do not understand
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>>172849361
>grailcucks have to do meme tier trials to gain shiny lances
>Knights of The blazing sun get best goddess' blessing and protection and they become Woke as fuck.
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>>172841468
Is this one of those "Americans" I've been hearing about?
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>>172849494
>vargheists
>hexwraiths
>skelly spears when you already have vastly superior anti-large in a pair of blood knights
>terrorgheist
>only one hero per stack, neither of which is a vampire


Lots of gaps. I'd take a Lord with maxed out IoN, one shadow Vamp, one death Vamp, and one Wight King in every army. At least two GW Grave Guard, between four and six vanilla Grave Guard, at least two Blood Knights, at least one Mortis Engine. Fill the rest with Bats, Varghulfs, Crypt Horrors, whatever you enjoy using the most.
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OLD FRIEND WHEN!?
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>>172850146
>you will never teach a petite curious skink exactly how humans spawn
>>
Why is Turin such a nice fucking guy? He's like the opposite of Legend, a pure delight to watch.
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>ratpath
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>oh look, it's that loser who still worships Ulric!
>>
Lads do we thinks there's any chance of the Empire getting an overhaul between now and TW WH 2? After the release of everything else they feel like a model T ford parked next to a Sherman tank.
Is there a mod that gives them some oomph? Maybe even better campaign mechanics?
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>>172850669
>boob plate
It doesn't look good.
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>>172850669

>Calling Sigmar a loser
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>>172850450

in about 2-3 weeks
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>>172850506

wew
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>>172850821

>he doesn't know what a muscle cuirass is

>>172850824

divinity cannot recognize itself
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>>172850563
who?
>>
I wouldn't mind a warhammer total war if the game was at least good
but even Rome 2 wasn't this easy and shitty
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>>172850963
Muscleplate is cool. Boob plate just looks silly. Why can't we have girls in muscleplate or just regular plate?
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>>172850427
okay what should i replace spear skellies with?
More cavalry?

>hexwraiths
i have only 1 unit of those and why are they bad?
>vargheist
what's wrong with it?

>non-vampire hero
well that can be easily changed
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You guys want two rolling charts (Warhammer I and Warhammer II) or the rolling charts combined into one?
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>>172850669

>implying I don't pray to Heldenhammer three times a day
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>>172850963
Pretty sure if I fell on my chest while wearing muscleplate I wouldn't smash my own ribs
Unlike boobplate
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How do I maintain a decent army without bankrupting myself as the blood suckers?
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>>172851158
I'd say separate ones for now, and then when that combined campaign map actually gets released we go with a combined one.
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>>172850967
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re9-AdhjLIE
A pretty good player that does a lot of multiplayer videos and streams.
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>decide to try some multiplayer in Warhams
>dwarf as an enemy
>cool lets get 2 great cannons to outgun him
>one grudge thrower kills both of my cannons in a shooting duel and has still over half of it's ammo left

What the fuck CA?
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>After holding a city-spanning forcefield up for decades during the Great Catastrophe against a literally neverending tide of Daemons, he got fed up of that and turned the field into a titanic explosion that vapourised a hundred thousand of them. As the daemons promptly pulled another infinite horde out of their asses and kept coming, Kroak proceeded to pull his sleeves up and bring out the titanic apocalypse magic that should really have been reserved for the Old Ones themselves.
>The army book describes it as goddamn time stopping as reality itself struggled to accommodate the tide of bullshit emitting from Kroak's mind, the world around his city folding in on itself to stem the tide of daemons.
>They penetrated his defences regardless, and Kroak was ripped to shreds by no less than a dozen Bloodthirsters. Doesn't matter though, as at this point he's too goddamn powerful to give a shit about being dead, and his unstoppable spirit continues to defy them. He basically becomes the singularity at this point, as the world turns blindingly bright and the daemonic horde pretty much just stops existing altogether.

Jesus fuck, you don't fuck with the frogs.
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>>172851091


It's the same concept anon, muscle cuirasses are supposed to look ridiculous in the physical sense, Romans and Greek big shots had them made to look like the classical statues of the gods in their physical perfection. If a woman had gone into battle with such armor it's reasonable to assume there would be big old tiddies bolted on to increase the feminine aspect. (wether any of the artists making these pics know about this at all is another thing)
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>>172851270
This has my vote.
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>>172851245
First of all, you have to build the goldmine in your capital. That'll keep you afloat for the first 40 turns or so.
Then, focus growth and upgrade your towns. Vampire economy is mainly fueled by towns themselves, so if you can expand somewhere you will rapidly gain dosh momentum. But be careful not to overextend, the whole vampire corruption thing is really punishing when you overextend. Also sack and raze Zhufbar, you don't want them to get confederated by the dorfs and later be used as a staging ground for an invasion.
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>>172851196

muscle cuirasses usually consisted of a solid inner breastplate and another layer of outer gilding to look cool, there is no gap on the inside, you pleb
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>>172851158
lol i don't have any DLC so i can;t play half of these
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>>172851409
>Literally being so angry that time itself is like "woah chill bro I can't take all that shit cmon"
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>>172842049
>easterners
>Scary
Antony detected.
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could someone pretty please make a dismounted knights errant mod

i would do it myself but when I opened up TWeak and saw there was no variant editor i was too disheartened
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>>172851409
Unless you do and force them to escape the planet

>imagining skincucks and slann pissing themselves hoping their precious old one rockets get them off the panet before the skaven assault
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>>172851460
Well if they have to have tits on them they could at least try and make them aesthetically pleasing rather than just ovals that look completely misplaced.
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>>172851553
Yes, so I wouldn't crush my own ribs as I fell, just like I said. Thanks for confirming that you agree
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>tfw Von Carstein
>allied with Empire
>allied with Dwarfs
i am in bizzarro world.
But i need this to push those chaos cunts back north
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>>172850669
Why are those SoB so lewd looking?
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>>172851654
And this right here is why they are called reddit rats.
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>>172851623
could someone please make a dismounted dual wielding flammenwerfer green knight (shock, AP) mod
i would do it myself but when I opened up TWeak and saw there was no variant editor i was too disheartened
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>>172851460
To give an example:

Just as over-the-top and ornamental as any example of muscleplate, for the exact same reasons.

Not that this has any bearing on WH40k, which runs on rule of cool alone.
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>>172850427
More than two spellcasters per army seems like a bit of a waste, given that they all have to share a WoM pool.
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>>172851907

Rats are for routing and chasing
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>>172851907
>don't ruin my larp fantasy gw REEEEEEEEEEEE

tumblr toads STILL this mad.
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>>172852049

>torpedo tits

aww yisss
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>>172851950
Trying too hard
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>>172851907
Hi Aos general
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>>172852132
>tumblr toads

You know, atleast find something that makes even a bit of sense.
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>>172851852
holy shit thats brutal , what anime is that ?
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>>172851275
Were your cannons clumped up in an artillery park? Was it the Gob Lobber? It has very strong accuracy due to being rank 9. You still should've been able to outrange it, though. You have so many options to ruin dwarfs as empire, in general that it's a tilted matchup.

Warhammer has great balance in its quickmatches and is a lot of fun. It's definitely in the best place its been in since the game's launch.
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>>172851158
gimme the manliest man in the game
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>want to play as Saxon fucking shits and colonize Britain
>the cool Saxon mod is dead and doesn't work anymore
Any other good mods that add a bit of spice to the Saxon menu?
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>>172852079
Yes, but Vampires are different in that they're very respectable combat lords that you should be taking anyway.

>spam IoN at every opportunity
>use spirit leech on enemy characters/monsters
>have pit of shades & penumbral pendulum to unzip if there's ever an opportunity to do so
>if you never get a chance to use your giant shadow spells it's no big deal, just keep slamming that vamp in to combat whilst spamming yet more overcasted IoNs
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>>172852180
For additioanl fetish potential, assume that the armor was actually painted in bright colors.
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>>172852401
>combat lords

combat heroes, whatever
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>>172851852
Vlad was always the most reasonable von Carstein with a giant anti-Chaos hateboner. Mainly wants to conquer the Empire and control it with an eternal skeletal fist to Chaos-proof it, as I recall.
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>>172852049
>picture
18-19 century, was part of cultic dress in India (if I remember correctly) and never used in actual battle
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>>172852306
space runaway ideon
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>ancient empire never
>medieval kingdoms campaign never
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>>172852350
Leoncouer is pretty manly.
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>>172847910
>multiple husbands

Dwarfs are garbage.
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>>172852528
>mfw Isabella got "likes chaos" trait
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>>172841645
>>172841468
The Steam page advertises map-wide bombardment spells, so magic seems buffed this time around.
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>>172850427
Terrorgheist are fucking sweet for disrupting enemy artillery, because unlike vargheist they don't die within ten seconds of landing somewhere without infantry support.
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>>172852761
That's nothing, I once got Grombrindal with the "Likes Greenskins" trait.
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>>172847910
Lmao dwarfs literaly a cuck race
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>>172852651
REJOICE
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>>172852906
I got Durthu with "Likes Dwarfs" once.
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SUMMON
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>>172853171
THE ELECTOR COUNTS
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this is getting more time than I originally thought
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Imagine a Total War take on the Dominions setting...
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>>172852714
>>172853037
>elves
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>>172852796
>Each Legendary Lord has a unique geographical starting position, and each race offers a distinctive new playstyle with unique campaign mechanics, narrative, methods of war, armies, monsters, Lores of Magic, legendary characters, and staggering new battlefield bombardment abilities.
>battlefield
am I missing something here?
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>>172853353
love it, particularly the aesthetic spudo decorations
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>>172853353
Amazing
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>>172853429
Nice argument there, my short friend :^)
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>>172853498
>and staggering new battlefield bombardment abilities.

Yeah that
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>>172853595
That doesn't mean they are battlefield wide, and rather that there's new bombardment for the battlefield map.
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>>172846818
>TWW2 = elf shenanigans

Why not TWW2 = Storm of Magic?
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>>172853595

Doesn't necessarily imply magic bombardment spells, could be naval bombardment a la Fall of the Samurai
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>>172853581
>the 'height' meme
Low energy as fuck, grobi
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I'm going to be dominated by a best elf!
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>>172853861
>best elf
The dead can't have sex with anyone
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>>172853353
bredy gud
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>>172852796
>>172853498
I'm thinking weather effects myself, Slaan are good for that kind of shit, and it makes sense with the vortex shit coming are way, and even skaven and some nice poison fog. OR even Tomb Kings and sandstorm shenanigans.
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>twwh has gotten popular enough now that we have tumblr complaining about problematic armors and shit

how much longer before the series turns to shit now? seems like ca takes them seriously like everyone else for some reason based on how they do their public announcements and talk about how they design elements of the game
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>>172853410
Fuck that, Total War: Heroes of Might & Magic with Jon Van Caneghem involvement would be the tits.
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it's kind of stupid in TWW that your troops can just batter the gate down and it doesn't even take that long.
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>>172853861
You sure are!
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>There will never be a naval expansion
>You will never bombard an orc drilla killa with your gyrobombers
>Your marauders will never fend off an assault by a kharibdyss on their longship
>Finubar the Seafarer and Alberic d'Bordeleaux will never duel for the title of greatest sealord
Shallya grant me the greatest mercy and take me to your father's embrace.
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>>172854061
Links?

I need a good laugh.
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>>172854061
We do? What exactly are they moaning about? Isabella's cold dead tits?

I absolutely loathe people who say "problematic" it's like a siren that warns me I am going to hate that person.
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>>172854061
just pray for lewd mods, this is the only real TW that they'd fit in to
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>>172852534
>tfw victorian morals ruined everything fun in this country.
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>>172854127
Gates need buffing.
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>>172853353
nice :DDD
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>>172841625
Corner camp with halberdiers.
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>>172854256
Gates need to be able to defend themselves!
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>>172854212
Probably Delf Witchtits.
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>>172851409
>actually dead toad
Fuck, he even got skele Skink besides him. What the point?
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>>172852534
>18-19 century india
so atime period where melee was still a definite part of battle in that area
>was part of cultic dress in India
So just like muslce plate.
>(if I remember correctly)
aha
>and never used in actual battle
Worn by a commander sitting in a fucking howdah, or on a horse behind the lines
Functioning just as muscle plate: Ornamental, visible, over-the-top exaggeration.

And it's actually a quite functioanl piece of armor, becasue all those tits and ornaments are just added on top of a 'base' plate.

Just calm the fuck down man, it seems that you somehow get upset by the fact that boobplate existed just like muscleplate.
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>>172854156
>>There will never be a naval expansion
But there is Man o War
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>>172854323
but everyone loves Delf tits. I do wonder what they do when it's snowing though...
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>bunch of people complaining about not having another historical game on the steam forums
why us steam pain
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>>172854143
kek
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>>172854386
>so atime period where melee was still a definite part of battle in that area
Yeah but without armor.
>Worn by a commander sitting in a fucking howdah, or on a horse behind the lines
ope you fucking idiot, it was weared by priests.
>it's actually a quite functioanl piece of armo
>brass
>functioanl
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>>172854386
>so atime period where melee was still a definite part of battle in that area
lol no. By the 19th century everyone and their daddy was hiring europeans to train sepoys.
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>>172847716
But was it worth it? GW put it into their book of grudges for sure.
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>>172851409
>Giant frog
>Called Lord Kroak

bravo GW
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>>172854061
>>twwh has gotten popular enough now that we have tumblr complaining about problematic armors and shit
SOURCE!
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>>172854328

The fucker is dead but he decided to stick around because there was a lot of shit going on. So yeah, there is no ritual, no spell or anything. He's still inhabiting his old body out of willpower alone.

Nagash ain't got shit on Kroak.
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>>172854061
total and game workshop has already been attacked by sjw and feminists for the sisters of battle etc

game workshop just laughed in their face , cause they know that only nerds play their product
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>>172854061
>no source/link

Of course.
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>>172854773
Lizardmen are cheeky like that.
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>>172854670
>Yeah but without armor.
actually town conscripts and levies would often wear chain mail armor because there was a flourishing metalworking scene in India

The maratha cavalry during the 1700s had chainmail armor and lances. CA did their research surprisingly well for ETW
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>>172854773

In the old books all the Slann had pun names
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>>172854941
>game workshop just laughed in their face
While pleasing them.
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>>172841468
*overcasts and buffs his whole army for only 6 seconds*
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>>172854061
link?
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>>172846246
>Greenskins that low
Come on man, Grimgor was the lord I got most hyped about from the cinematic.
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>>172854941
Source?

>>172854061
For fucks sake. SAUCE
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>>172855007
Except for Winged Hussars being late game cav.
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>people who go 'Maybe we'll see the Lizardmen and even the High Elves eventually, who knows! Tomb Kings would be going too far, wouldn't want to overtax CA, haha. Me, I'd be satisifed with just the core races. Three races. One race. Three quarters of one race. Maybe? Please, CA? Take my stuff away so you won't have to work too hard?'
>People who suggest the next Total War be in a LOTR/Wheel of Time/Game of Thrones/HoMM/etc setting
>Chaos Dwarf denialists
>GC Map Expansion denialists
>people who still rag on CA for reusing the waaagh mechanic three brilliant, imaginative expansions later
>people who want formations in TWW
>people who don't get that the DLC strategy is both massively less extortive than Paradox's and a tribute to the tabletop game
>people who want Ind, Cathay and Nippon included in the game
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>>172855236
https://www.themarysue.com/warhammer-40k-gender-representation/
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I really like this guy, he's been great so far.

I thought generic lords were shit but this guy did beat Karl Franz and Leoncouer so he's pretty good. He doesn't even have yellow traits yet and he's already decent.

I like naming my chaos lords after 40k chaos champions but you can give him a name if you want. He's going to kill Orion now.

Who's the best generic lord in the game? I bet it's the 'not Mannfred' vampire lord
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>>172855280
it was wrong.
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>>172855358
I'm getting very conflicting messages from this post, mister frog.
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>>172846246
Personal and objectively much better than this opinionion.

Brettonia > Greenskins > Empire > Beastmen > Dorfs > Vampire Cunts > Welves >>>>>> Chaos
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>>172855440
It's simple, he has a very specific set of opinions and if anyone disagrees with any part of it they're stupid and should be ignored.
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>>172855406
That's old news. Even Arch made a video about this crap, in his usual autistic way. Way back even.
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>>172855406
Thanks anon. Now to get my rage on.
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I wonder if Warhammer "2" will unfuck underground battle lighting

Also even after months CA hasn't fixed Skarsnik garrisons, bravo.
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>>172854061
>it would be sexist to make isabella a legendary hero because shes a strong independent women who can lead her own armies
>we specifically designed dryads to challenge peoples stereotypes about the female form
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>>172855358
I want some formation abilites in TWW, but it's not a big loss at all really.

>people who want Ind, Cathay and Nippon included in the game

I don't want those factions in their current state. I want them revised and expanded upon(and given a better name) in game and/or outside, but I know it will never happen.
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>>172855583
They better not fuck up amazons and morathi with that shit.
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>>172855541
https://dailygeekette.wordpress.com/2015/05/06/the-gender-gap-in-warhammer-40k-a-girls-struggle-to-battle-with-fabulous-eldar/

this one is horrible too
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>>172855406
>https://www.themarysue.com/warhammer-40k-gender-representation/
that's not about total war warhammer though
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>>172855440
It's very simple: if it had a model in TT, or at least a concept sketch, it should be included in the game. If it wasn't, it shouldn't. TT rules should be followed as much as possible, and no histfaggotry should be allowed to make its way in.
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>>172855701
http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2016/06/on-maturity-40k-and-slaanesh.html

and of course they attacked the prince of pleasure itself

>>172855773
i was responding about the previous attack on GW by sjw's
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>>172854061
link or source plz
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>fight three full varg stacks with your single one
>pyrrhic victory
>kill counts low as fuck cause their armies were mostly chariots and trolls
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I'm still not seeing any TW WH in there? I know SJWs will look for anything to be offended by but they don't seem to have noticed us over here in TW yet.
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>>172853743
Given we got teclis and big papa frog I think we can be pretty sure those map-wide bombardment abilities are gonna be magic.

None of the factions are big on artillery so it's defo not that, is it?
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and now my watch has ended....

i tried everything and my campaign ctd on rebel turn so I think my rome campaign is over, this one lasted about 4 or 5 months, some incredible battles, shared alot of moments of it with you guys, but in the end we will never get to completely crush seleucia

so who should I start a new campaign as?

Rome, Macedon, Egypt, Seleucids, Carthage, Parthia, Pontus, Gaul, Germany, Illiyria, Armenia, Thrace, Greece, Numidia, Sarmatians, Iberians, Bactria

also here is how far my empire was able to get before crash is inevitable
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>>172855698
>They better not fuck up amazons and morathi with that shit.

oh yeah im sure its going to turn out great. see >>172842282
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>>172856458
Armenia of course
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>>172855358
Is the chaos pack worth it?
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>>172847910
>the majority of malr dwarfs can be expected to remain bachelors until death
So most dorfs are virgins then
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>>172856598
Probably why they get so much shit done.
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>>172856598
>falling for the vaginal jew
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>>172856598
not if they found an equally frustrated virgin and enough beer to ignore the beard
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>>172856585
literally vertical corporate pressure on the developer, and the only instance of such in the dev cycle so far
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>>172856585
if you like playing horde then sure, it was one of my first campaign that i did play trough... i quite enjoyed it
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>>172856837
But is it worth getting?
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>tfw the greenskins got fucking obliterated and I have to deal with dwarfs and karak azul with 20+ settlements
>tfw patiently waiting for chaos to get rid of vamps for me
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>>172856585
Not really. They are pretty fun in battle, but their campaign suck.

Get them if they are really fucking cheap.
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>>172851158
Gork not Mork!
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>>172856458
I want to see what Armenia looks like too.
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>>172856928
Yeah, dwarfs winning the badlandsbowl is really annoying the for the late game. Way harder to remove compared to orcs.
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>>172856458
>tfw don't have my non-steam version of rome near me
>tfw no good torrent for Rome Gold.
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>>172856928
I've never seen chaos do anything about vampires. They always just beeline for Altdorf. Even norscan tribes end up not at war with them.
>>
Give me the skinny on magic. I've been playing around with it, and I'm starting to feel like damage dealing spells are pretty much useless. Is that true? Am I just doing Chain Lightning wrong?
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Are flagellants worth anything? I never used them due to their nonexistant armour. Does Volkmar's and the Warrior Priest red line make them usable?
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I literally forgot i have total war medieval 2 on steam... maybe i should install it and play, what mod do you guys recommend...

Already played 200hours of tww time for some historyshill
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>>172857398
Broken Crescent

Play as the Caliphate
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>>172855572
Anon, Germanic factions in Attila STILL don't have functioning garrisons. When you upgrade your spear units, the core of your entire army for a good hundred turns or more, the numbers fuck up and you only get a single unit of the upgraded variant when you're supposed to have four, five, or more.
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>>172857341
They are nice for absorbing the brunt of the enemy charge by walking slightly in front of your greatswords, you can even use a checkered formation for that. Otherwise they aren't great.
>>
Any mods I should look at for warhamma? Also how manmy fa/tg/uys lurk here?
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Are the chaos knights shit?

They are rather meh compared to the bretonnian and vc elite cavalry
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>>172853998
>map gets covered in a sandstorm that ruins accuracy and forces everyone to a crawl
>TK's magically guided peasant bowmen with poisoned arrows outshoot everything.
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>>172857691
No, they're high tier.
Blood knights and demigyphs beat them but they do fine against everything else.
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>>172857691
Everything is shit compared to the Suneater and nineteen Shaggoth.
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>>172856925
If you play multiplayer, yes. Theyre a fun faction to play in battles. But campaign is awful, i played a full campaign when the game released. Was a waste of time, overall horde factions arent fun to play because losing a single horde means losing hours of progress. Growth is super slow and you cant travel together for safety because of attrition
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Holy shit have you fags tried this yet? Chaos is literally playable now.
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>>172857691
They are some of the strongest cav in the game. They should actually beat all bret cav due to none of their high tier units having armour piercing.
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>>172857078
Badlandsbowl really needs the reddit-rats or kongs to even it a bit for late game.
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>>172857650
Most mods are bullshit to make the game easier so you gotta be really careful.

This mod is good for adding in minor settlement maps which was something sorely missing from the game.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=883467263

It also incidentally makes magic way more powerful because there are way more battles where units get really clumped together.

The only issue with it is that the AI can't take into account any of the new maps so they attack as if it was a field battle when they don't actually have enough forces. How useful they actually are for defence varies from map to map though which I quite like.
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>>172856925
Come to think of it, I should have included people who ask whether a specific DLC is worth getting under my quotes of shame. Because anyone who doesn't aim to buy the full package clearly doesn't understand that the base game is far from complete and doesn't offer a satisfying experience.
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>>172857315
Damage magic can range from being useless to devastating. A well placed and timed wind of death can make enemy lines disappear. A foot of gork can devastate a dwarf blob. Fireball might seem weak, but its long range and low cost makes it really good for thining a 12-man monster unit. Chain Lightning is just shit as far as I know.

You should get a magic mod though.
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>>172857817
>all Shaggoths and not regular dragon ogres mixed in.

My greatest moment in this game will always be routing an entire dwarf army with 3 units of dragon ogres and a hero on a manticore. Just kept cycle charging through the stunties til they broke and chased them off the map while Ungrim waddled after me in all his manlet fury.
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Why is Chaos so stupidly overpowered?
They literally win with VC with half the units, not to mention Archaon
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Do you guys think we will get any info before e3 or are we going to have to wait with only this announcement trailer? I want more info next week dammit!
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>>172857398

Choose your poison:

Stainless Steel for improved vanilla fun,
Europa Barbarorum 2 for Ancient times fun,
Broken Crescent for Middle Eastern fun,
Third Age for Lord of the Rings fun,
PlanetWar for wacky fun,
Westeros for Game of Thrones fun,
Falcom for World wide fun.

Left out: Warhammer mods - I guess you had enough of it already.
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>>172854959
Whenever someone says "tumblr does x" they're probably right in that some number of users on tumblr are doing that thing, but of course that's a whole other thing than "there's a big protest on tumblr". So yeah, of course. Why let any consideration about the scope of something influence how strongly you react to it or how many people you judge as a result?
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>>172857903
>not warlords of chaos
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>>172858223

>Why is Chaos so stupidly overpowered?

Are you fucking joking?
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>grimgor gets the likes dwarfs trait

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>172857903
All the units look like absolute trash and their cards are stretched and ugly.
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>>172858325
no, they rape me hard.
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>>172843975
What is the next hist setting?
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>>172856598
Only if they refuse sex before marriage.
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>>172857214
You can add rome to steam for free with your cd key, I think. I know that doesn't solve your immediate problem, but you can prevent it in future.

Unless you're saying there's a problem with the steam version?
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>>172858345
of course he likes dwarfs
the dead ones
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Which faction do you guys recommend for new players? I'm on turn 20 of Empire as Karl Franz and it doesn't seem fun
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>>172858582
Dwarfs. Wood Elves are also easy despite what he game tells you, it's just that you'll be doing fuck all at the start of the campaign.
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So was CA made aware of the slann navel thing?
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>>172858381

Chaos is the weakest faction in the game right now
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>>172858345
Grimgor is too grim anyway, orcs should have more fun. Black orcs in general are too nofunallowed.
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>>172858714
not when i play agianst AI
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>>172858705
Thanks. I was having a really easy time with Empire, but too easy isn't fun. Should I play through Dwarf intro?
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>>172854725
>specifically claimed it waws '18th/19th century'
>By the 19th century
Yeah.

And at the start of the 18th century, they were fighting with spears and shields and swords like it was 1244.
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>>172856458
you did rome justice anon , even if you didnt beat the selucids you managed to make a good empire
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>>172858782
Get fucking lightning strike.
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>>172858795
>too easy isn't fun
Scratch that then, Dwarfs are easy as hell.
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>play beastmen
>fuck around in eatalia, bretonnia and empire for a bit
>Orion decides to fuck my shit up, follows me into fucking ostland
>think 'I'll go and raze the Border Princes and Tilea now'
>do that
>when I look at the map again, Archie has razed the whole Empire, killed vampire cunts and is proceeding to fuck the Greenskins
>tree hitler has taken over bretonnia and is conquering the dead empire for leafensraum
What the fuck is going on.
Is the AI supposed to just bed over for Archie?
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>>172858795
Elves are pretty easy, but they're also very fun in battle.
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Ok does anyone else feel that empire units are a tad bland looking? Empire is my downright favorite faction in tt and in the game, but I just cant get over how boring swordsmen, spearmen, and halberdiers look.I'm not saying that I want them to be fully armored tanks, that not only looks bad, but its also not necessarily lore friendly. I do however wish that they had more than red pants and a breastplate. I mean there is so much art out there for warhammer and these untis look tremendously bland by comparison. It would be nice if they at least had some thigh armor like that worn by the pistoliers. Are there any reskin mods out there for Empire troops that dont overdo it? Empire of Sigmar was ok I guess, but the vast majority of reskins for empire make them look like fully armored knights. I just want more detail on my Emp units.
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Is there any way to win the Wood Elf campaign without expanding borders beyond Athel Loren?
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Okay, guys. Today I tried the multiplayer of Warhams for the first time and I will never play it again.

>corner camping
>changing faction last minute to get a counter army
>hill campers
>people who have basically lost but fly/run away with their units to get an undeserved draw

fuck this shit, just fuck the lamers that play multiplayer in Total war.
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>>172859520
I didn't buy any of the DLC desu. Couldn't bring myself to pay another $50 for 3 factions. Maybe next sale.
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>>172857650
I used to be a fa/tg/uy, but I all but quit when AoS came around.
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>>172846246
godDAMN I wish Dwarf gameplay was more like tha trailer. There need to be more underground maps other than the underways. And Why are Dwarf sieges like this trailer? Fuck they could have been so much better
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>>172859658
it was kind of predictable, it happened in 8th all the time never mind total war. Viable tactics are just hill camping with cannons, running away your preciosu flying units to preserve points scores and last minute list tweeks.
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this is stupid as shit.

I'm sallying forth from my town that's under siege and for some reason the garrison is a separate reinforcing army instead of being part of my own force?

I thought if you are garrisoned in the town yourself the garrison army always joins your own.
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>>172859614
I think a lot of infantry have this problem.
Empire infantry, bret man at arms, welves, orcs.
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>>172859614
They are better off than the Bretonnians, and the color variations between provinces help somewhat.

I don't know where to redirect you, but it doesn't seem like modding some simple reskins is too hard, if you're up for it.
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>>172859658
Yeah, this is why I never even stuck my toes in the water. The MP scene breeds cancer like no other.
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>>172859403
It varies heavily, sometimes Chaos steamrolls everything, sometimes you don't even have time to catch sight of its LLs before it's over.
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>a new day
>historic fags have still no new Total War
Feels good
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>>172859403
More or less. It depends on how much damage Norsca did beforehand really. If they cant recover from that and get their shit together then the empire tends to fall
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>>172859403
I dunno why, but Empire AI seems particularly week. Sometimes Franz drags his heels on wiping out the secessionists until well past turn 50.
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>>172860415
I guess histtwg is... History...
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>>172860341
Rulesets are key.
Which is why tw isnt even that good
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Empire 2 when
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>>172859403
I noticed that, yeah, unless the player unites them all the other factions will just get raped.
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>>172860740
What would be wanted from Empire 2? Doesn't seem like anyone liked Empire.
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What British accent do the Dawi have in game?

It's 1000000000000000x times better than the Scottish shit we always get,
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>>172860935
>Doesn't seem like anyone liked Empire.
A lot of people liked the time period and the potential Empire had but the bugs and weak first version of the warscape engine fucked the game up pretty hard
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>>172860935
They can't make it in today's climate of non stop fucking microtransactions (that the original Empire was at the forefront of, funnily enough).

Empire covers the entire earth with the exception of Siberia and Australia/NZ and that is just too much for the fucking jews at CA to put in one box.
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>>172860935
Scope, time period isn't 100% as napoleon's or a victoria tw would still be just as good, but what did it for me was having to plan around europe, the med/north africa, america, india and the trade routes all at the same time. But then again, I like HoI3.
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>>172850450
Did Krell and Sigvald fight in the lore?
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>>172861248

Maybe if they had dialed back the scope the game would actually have been fucking FINISHED when they released it
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>>172861373
Then it wouldn't have been an Empire game. Modders can fix their shit so there is no excuse whatsoever.
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>>172861020
Yorkshire, laddie. Best forever
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>>172860740
Napoleon is literally a perfect Empire without the same map. They should have made a dlc for it with a world map.

>>172861020
Yorkshire, specifically east riding though one of the voice actors is from Doncaster.
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>>172859614
Try this one
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=849918459

There's the original if you're ok with the modder mixing some bretonnian assets on the state troops
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=847785822

The 1st one looks better imo
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>>172861474

"Modders will fix it" isn't an excuse for releasing a fucking broken-ass garbage game.
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>>172858961
>using lightning strike

Might as well use money and exp cheats while you're at it.
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>>172861474
>Modders can fix their shit
Empire has never truly been fixed by any mods.
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EMPIRE 2 FUCKING WHEN?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXknALrHSfI&t
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>>172861598
>http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=849918459

this looks interesting thanks.
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>>172861767
>Look at this faggot
>I bet he uses in game mechanics and doesn't hamstring himself
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>>172859403

Empire is weaksauce, in every game after the latest patch Bretonnia is the true and only hope for humanity in my campaigns.
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Empire 2 when
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>VC
>turn fucking 280
>still nowhere close to win
>chaos pushed shit for everyone
Why am i shit at this game, and how do i win it.
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>>172861874
Does the ai even use lightning strike though? It's such an unfair advantage.
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>>172862295
Yes, most frequently used by Skarsnik.
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KILL
URKS
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>be Malekith
>Get put on trial through the flame to become the Pheonix King
>Get burned so hard that your body would be the envy of dwarven coal miners everywhere
>Get pissed and start fucking shit up
>Gods tell you "It was just a prank bro"
Malekith really did NOTHING wrong
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>Warhammer II
>another Total War made on Warscape engine
>another Total War released before finishing the previous title
>another ahistorical fantasy Total War
>another Total War with faction DLCs
>another Total War with stupid short campaigns DLCs that no one will even play
>the next Total War is a direct sequel of the previous one ON THE SAME ENGINE with 80% SAME MECHANICS

I DIDN'T SIGN UP FOR THIS SHIT

NEW GOLDEN ERA OF STRATEGY GAMES WHEN?
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>>172857341
no , they still melt at the sight of a crossbow
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>yfw CA and SEGA didn't change the game engine since 2009 and Empire
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>>172862496
>no one will even play
eyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
good meme

>>the next Total War is a direct sequel of the previous one ON THE SAME ENGINE with 80% SAME MECHANICS

wasn't this the same with Rome 1 -> Med2?
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>Delay fighting Chaos
>Actually build up an economy
>40 turns later
>I still only have t2 troops with no shock/melee cav
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>>172862496
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>>172862713
Most western games have engines pushing 5+ years, only poles and chinks bother to make engines anymore.
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>>172862771
Even worse, since they took a perfectly functional game and butchered it in exchange for cool graphics. At least warscape got better with time.
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I AM PATRIARCH AND EMPEROR
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>>172857903
There are so many unnecessary and stupid units like 123145 different cultist units or the forsaken giant which is just a huge forsaken model with an axe.
Same shit with the chaos divided mod. I want a low profile chaos mod.
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>>172861338
mate sigvald is the one who 'kills' krell for good
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>>172862496
>another Total War made on Warscape engine


Warhammer uses the warscape engine and basically all the faults of it are gone(compared to rome 2 or whatever) so I don't get you.

Units keep formation and there is basically no sliding.
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>>172863150
>Not Geltburg
>Not KemberGelt
>Leaving CarroGelt in the hands of not-Gelt.
By the Winds of Chamon, no!
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>>172862496

McFucking kill yourself Historycuck

Why is it that all the assharmed /v/ermin who have come here to bitch about "Not muh history" this weekend almost all identify themselves with fucking frogposting?

I haven't been to /v/ for a few months but last time I visited it hasn't COMPLETELY become /pol/-lite
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>Archaon with 2 bonus stacks
>barely win
>2 turns pass
>he's back with fresh stacks
Why game, why
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>>172855820
>It's very simple: if it had a model in TT, or at least a concept sketch, it should be included in the game.
Lustrian Pygmies fucking when?
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>>172862906
poles truly are the saviors of the human race
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if I recruit a hero and then demolish the building that let me recruit them, do I still get to keep them?
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>>172863150
>geltdorf
>geltmund
>talageltland
>wissengelt
>gelt keep
>geltershafen
>gelten

All shall be Chamon.
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>>172861338
End times disclaimer
Krell hit/wounded him in the face and it got him so upset that he managed to beat skeleton man with autistic tantrum power
Throgg later kills sigvald and pisses on his corpse or something like that so I'm still relatively satisfied with the outcome
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>>172863701
Because they can't make the game smart so they make it cheat instead.
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>>172863701
It's obvious you haven't played Attila.
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>>172863776
Yes. You just can't replace them if they're lost.
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>>172855820
You realize how many concept sketches there are for the game, right?
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Guys im looking for really good medieval 2 conversion mod. Besides third age and stainless, what good conversions are left out there?
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Old friend is for the new game isn't it
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>>172861874

setting the game to easy is using an in game mechanic too

*shrug*

some people like a little challenge as opposed to storybook mode
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>>172864149
Third age and stainless
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>>172864256
No, old friend was M2-autism that arrived with the trailer.
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>>172864256
Something old
Something new
So tomorrow
We get jewed
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>>172864343
3/10, using *action* makes it too obvious.
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>>172862496
Go away reynold sanity.
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>>172862496
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>>172863150
kek
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So the next game have 4 races i a map what is just jungle, don't even can play as you other factions until the god knows when they released the big map campaing, what will be a bad version of both maps with less factions and no goals. Also no sea battles, and probably neither under empire map for skavens/dwarf/gobbos. Also the AI probably will remain the same and no changes for sieges.

But atleast we got a vortex campaing.
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>>172851158
come on baby
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How do I counter Chaos Chariots as Empire?
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>>172865000
>don't even can play as you other factions until the god knows when they released the big map campaing
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>>172864413
Ok I laughed. God dammit.
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>>172863834
>>172863850
after like 160 turns of back and forth with chaos, i just killed archaon for 9999th time and suddenly Chaos fraction is destroyed, what happened?
Does he have limit of respawns or something?
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>>172865000

Is this a copy-paste of a Steam review?
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Does anyone have the image of Wojac with alexander the great helmet?
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How does soulfire work?

I don't get why it gives 90% magic resistance, isn't that counterproductive?
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>>172865284
Guns and nets.
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>>172864149
Call of Warhammer beginning of the end times?
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When I first saw the cold one I just thought it was dark elf cavalry and then it stomped an elf and ate another. My dick got very hard when i saw the lizard on top of it roaring.
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>>172862053
Well, I kinda pillaged and burned my way through Bretonnia and marienburg.
Which then probably allowed the Norsca to kill the Empire by teh time archie hit.

It's fucking retarded, this needs to be rebalanced.
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>>172855358
>bashing on formations

makes me think
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>>172865463
90% magic res to your dudes
magic damage coming down from the sky on their dudes
I figure it's to mitigate friendly fire
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>>172843958
>free for all battle in trailer
>in game there will never be a free for all battle
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>>172865463
The magic resist only applies to your units
Throw it wherever you want and your army will be fine, just toss it onto something that really needs to be weakened
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>>172865284
Get a lot of infantry.
Form them up in ranks, at least four men deep.
Let the chariots get caught by the infantry, and poke them to death when they can't maneuver.

It's not the best way, but it's something you can do with any army, and you can add onto it - using a spell that decreases attack or armor of the enemy, using a spell that increases the attack of your own troops, throw in some guns or knights for some extra hurt.
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>>172866085
Yeah why didn't they add this. Rome 1 had it. It would make sense for quest battles and fun custom ones.
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>>172864413
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are wizard LL still terrible. or can i finally roll with gelt
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>>172856563
man, I never heard the moon people speech in the game.
Actually, I never had a lunatic general.

FeelsBadMan.
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>>172864149
I remember playing Bellum Crucis once and having fun, but it was so long ago that i don't remeber shit from that campaign or why i liked this mod.
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G O B L I N S
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>>172863795
Directly after the Krellicide, I think, while Ziggy is still wounded.
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So other than the frog who's the other lizardmen lord?
>>
whats the best dwarf legendary lord?
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Is it just me or is there literally no way for Wood Elves to stop corruption?
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>>172866365

>gelt gives +10 fucking armor to everyone now

literally +10 armor

gelt has ASCENDED
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>>172867041
Mannfred
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>>172866365
Gelt's great now
Kemmler's still pretty shit and the Fay Enchantress is alright
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>>172859658
dude, CA doesn't give a fuck about match multiplayer.

But the ai will always be shit.

The only solution is the multiplayer campaign. It's the only mode anyone should ever play this game on.
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>tfw you don't even care about public order or corruption anymore because the rebels are a great source of income
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>>172866365

Gelt is absolutely fucking awesome now.

10+ armor to all your troops, everywhere, even the ones not in his army.

It's so good.

His spells are also better pretty much across the board, with the changes to vortexes especially letting the Golden Hounds spell rack up an insane number of kills against low tier infantry if you can get it to hit right
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>>172867278

>CA doesn't give a fuck about match multiplayer.

But every single patch has a bunch of balance changes that are aimed specifically at multiplayer

And they're even bothering to actually develop a system to deal with plug-pullers cheesing the ladder.
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>>172854773
>>172855123
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>>172847716

I sense the work of Malal
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warhammer TWO? LOL
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>>172867491
No, the patches are affecting stats for campaign multiplayer. You can't look at certain rosters in isolation outside of the campaign without seeing how unbalanced they are.

LLs often have abilties that are economic and/or directly comeplemnt roster weaknesses, for instance.

But that's all basic shit. The fundamental is that a 1 off battle with equal money and no context makes no sense at all. Of course you will get shit like camping at that point.

Battles on the campaign map flow much more sensibly because there's strategic context driving tactical positioning.

I played ETW and NTW competitively but since multiplayer campaign came out I've never played any other mode, nor any SP. Everything else is so shallow.
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>>172867278
Simultaneous turns in co-op campaign fucking when? Without them waiting for your turn take too much time, especially when there is battle. I and my friend never manage to play past few turns until we got bored.
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>Warhammer 2 will be out before Ancient Empires
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>playing as Bretonnia
>decide from the get-go that I want to make friends with Karak Ziflin, since they got wiped out in my last game while I wasn't paying attention
>even send an army over to fuck up Marienburg when they try to siege one of their holds
>dwarves just grumble about me trespassing
>I end up at war with them at one point
>do nothing during and break it off as quickly as possible, but the dwarves are still mad
>take gifts of gold, but refuse even a non-aggression pact
>keep on trying to make friends with them even as Norse raids get worse and Mousilion starts getting uppity and it gets harder to give them gifts
>Warriors of Chaos start invading, I'm losing my Empire territories
>suddenly the Karak Ziflin dwarves want to diplomacy
>want a military alliance and military access
>"Are you ready to fight with the dawi, lad?"
>mfw, literal tears of joy

Of course the moment was ruined in that they did shit after I agreed, but I finally made dwarf friends.
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>>172867491
any dev that gave a damn about ladder would have implemented a remedy to d/c-ing at the start, it's extremely basic stuff.
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>>172867743
>Itzadodyl
Fucking British 80s humour
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>>172865358
I think you need to make sure that all named Chaos characters are out of commission at the same time, otherwise one'll respawn and start the cycle of bullshit over again. I don't know if you need to kill the generics as well, though.
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>>172868047
co-op campaign is kind of dumb too because you are still fighting the fucktarded ai, and thus will never learn to battle properly.

Seriously, for "co-op" just play head to head as allies, then fight at the end to see who is strongest.
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>>172866952
Most likely Kroq-Gar, the commander of the Lizardmen, a melee dude with a cyborg hand that shoots Shem's Burning Gaze and rides a big not-Trex
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Remember when CA killed this series?
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How is Nippon different from actual feudal Japan? Looks the same, what are the fantasy elements?
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>>172868471

Man, that shit actually sounds awesome as fuck.

I always liked the look of lizardmen for the aztec/mayan them. I also like crocs so it was a win win.

Now I get to lead them on a no-rex riding commander with a fucking sun based lasers? I am fucking sold.
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>>172868673

Nippon, Ind and Cathay are barely touched upon in the actual lore, they basically don't matter and were never meant to be seriously explored or fleshed out.
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>>172867104
Have you tried killing all the Chaos, son?
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Would you guys be interested in me posting a The Last Roman campaign as the Roman Expedition?
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>>172867104

It's called leveling up the Oak of Ages
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>>172868798
I guess that explains why the wiki entry for them is two small paragraphs.
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How do you get a good start as brettonnia? Very hard only please
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>>172868673
they like teaching rats elite ninja skillz
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>>172868902
i would
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>>172868902
Of course! We're always interested in campaigns. You don't need to ask, anon. A lot of people here will never have played TLR.
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What the fuck is the point in having a huge winds of magic reserve if you generate winds so slowly after a while it's irrelevant?

I'm currently in a battle where I have 41 winds of magic reserve left but generate a single point ever 20 seconds, it'll be fucking ages before i have enough for a decent spell.
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>>172868902
yes. plz.
wish the map was expanded to include the rest of Europe
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>>172868720

He has had some great models, so it's very important that Creative Assembly does him justice.
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>>172869283
Battles are over so quickly.

Is it possible to use -negative growth to stop an enemy province from upgrading? Was thinking next time I play an empire game while getting the runefang I would sally forth and sack the shit out of some viking shits and then leave a priest there if it can stop the province growth so I dont have to deal with fucking chariot stacks.
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>>172869283
Magic needs a complete overhaul. It's a remnant from the extremely conservative early days when they weren't sure people would enjoy something so wildly different from the TW formula, but it's pretty clear they've been getting bolder and bolder with every piece of new content.

Expect them to make it actually useful in the next game.
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>>172868346
I love how the feed the peasants option has the text that 'maybe if we feed them for once, they'll stop complaining.'
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>>172869283
You need to use either more than one caster or loads of abilities and items that speed up point regen.
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>>172844157
Skaven will be DLC, probably preorder DLC.
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>>172869250
>>172869258
>>172869298
Very well, then.

Any house rules you'd like to suggest? Something you would like to see and wouldn't be interested in seeing (battles, character leveling up, building, etc.)? I'm kinda at a loss when it comes to what I shall be taking screenshots of, because of the time delay between image posts here on /vg/.

In any case, I've thought of always fighting Belisarius' battles, no matter how small, and always autoresolve the battles of other generals.

John the Armenian is a Fearless Warrior, giving him +1 Zeal.
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>>172870024
Why do people keep saying this?

It's basically confirmed by Grace that Skaven will be one of the FOUR main races included with the game.
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>>172857903
>Try to use mod.
>Game crashes to desktop if too many units are in a battle.
>Having a full stack vs anything (even a single lord) causes it.
Wow nice mod :^)
Too much income, too. Almost every building gave income in addition to the upkeep reduction from the base game.
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>>172870024
No
>Meanwhile a fourth, secretive race stirs, their motives obscured by sinister plots and machinations. The time for revelation is nigh…

>Four races, four outcomes, a single goal: control of the Great Vortex, for good or ill.
Also
https://twitter.com/totalwar/status/847842652762537984
Now, given that there was a rat in the trailer, and no other faction really makes sense in the context of the expansion, skaven are 100% confirmed for being a base race.
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>>172851675

that's entirely on your personal taste however, not historical conjecture
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>>172862053
as it should be
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>>172870275
Whatever, here goes our first battle.

Forgot to mention, Belisarius has the scholar trait, which gives 10% boost to research initially, which is amazing.
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>>172870275
pls don't make belisarius a cuck
WRE and Rome not Byzantine Empire and Constantinople ok
praise jesus
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Communication between Slann can be a real difficult thing, for a lot of reasons.

Fun fact: There's a little piece of thought in the back of every single Saurus Temple Guard, without exception. It's always saying "Why? Why me?" That's why they are so relieved when it's time for violence, an outlet for the maddening frustration they put up with.
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>>172870456
Since skaven were barely hinted in the trailer i bet it will be jewish DLC.
cap this
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Even in death, I kill urks
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>>172851837

>unlike boobplate

the construction technique would be the same you idiot
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>>172870602
The battle begins with our scout eqvites and exploratores rushing to capture towers, while our archers screen the advance of our foederati infantry. Hopefully we'll manage this battle with less than 100 casualties. We'll see.

>>172870650
whaddayamean by Belisarius getting cucked?
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>>172870895
>whaddayamean by Belisarius getting cucked?
i don't want to spoil the memes to you, you'll discover it as you play the campaign
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Fuck, i deleted my entire comment by accidentally reloading site.
>>172868902
Yeah, sure. Post and i will probably read even if i don't respond unless i'm not on /twg/. I like when anons are posting history. Especially if this is campaign i never played like from some minicampaign or mod
>>172868346
But co-op is comfy.
And i don't like to compete with friends and family
And i don't like playing long games with strangers
But even multiplayer campaign should have simultaneous turns and trigger classical turns only when you are at war. It save so much time. Also why the fuck only two people can play multiplayer campaign? I and my two bros wanted to play co-op in Rome 2 so we had to start 3 different campaigns and not even a one was finshed
>>172863701
>>172865358
>>172868161
You have to quickly kill all of their LL. They won't come back after 4 of them is dead in time of few turns. But Chaos invasion won't end until you kill all warherds and generic chaos lords. Unless you have to kill generic ones too, and in every of mine campaigns allied with my AI finished them off so i didn't have to bother.
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I bought the woodelves DLC some time ago and really hated them on the first few turns but now I tried them and holy hell, are they fun.

But is there anyway to destroy towers during sieges with them?
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>>172871197
giant trees can beat up gates
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>>172870895
We managed to chase them away from the fortified town centre, and our horse riders are working with capturing the central point. Our foederati are taking positions by the fortifications to hurl javelins at the enemy troops while closing off the entry at the same time. So far, so good.
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>>172870756
>Health so low he no longer counts as alive
>still killing Urks

A true dawi.
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>>172871197

>But is there anyway to destroy towers during sieges with them?

I don't believe so

Honestly laying siege as Wood Elves is kinda miserable
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>>172867743
LL Pinacolada when?
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>>172871265
Yeah so can any unit but since they have no siege weapons they cannot destroy them, right?

>>172871338
Damn, cities with lv 3 walls will be a nightmare.
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>>172871279
Forgot the image on that one. :(

Also, we took more casualties than what we had hoped for. The germanic brigands managed to flank one of our foederati units while they were engaged in a melee with the enemy spearmen and took substantial losses. Thankfully the bard was amongst the casualties.
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>>172870756
YOU THINK DEATH CAN STOP ME, URK FUCKING SHITS?

GUESS AGAIN
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This came completely out of nowhere. I haven't even had any diplomatic relations with these guys. Should I take their offer?

Also, are they insane?
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>>172864413
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>>172871689
Take them on as a vassal and help him retake karak 8 peaks
Chivalry demands it
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>>172871689
This goes in the book of grudges, how is that even possible?
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>>172871412
giant trees have the
>counts as a siege unit
trait
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>>172870698

Slann also lack social skills. Very sad
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>>172871571
News arrived from John the Armenian that they had succesfully retaken Sufetula and were moving to rejoin us, but rallied back when they heard the Vandals had laid siege on the newly reclaimed city. Upon learning the numerical advantage, John decided to retreat, and the latest rider informed us that they have been chased by two vandal armies since early spring.

We proceed with attacking Hadrumentum.
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>>172872320
how much time do you plan to siege?
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>>172872320
Thankfully, guardtowers protection one of the gates of the settlement have been destroyed, so our troops are met with less resistance than anticipated. We take this opportunity to attack head-on with our skirmishers screening the advance of our foederati pushing some ladders to scale the walls.
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>>172872116
Just checked but they don't seem to have it, or is it a campaign/lord skill?
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>>172872304
>Lord hua-hua

LizardmanHuehuehuehuehue.gif
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>>172872635
While our skirmishers were screening our foederati, two enemy units landed on the flank of our lines, one unit of marines and onme unit of archers. The archers were easily dispatched of by our foederati cavalry, while the marines managed to engage one of our levis armaturae in hand-to-hand combat. The captain of one of the foederati infantry units took initiative, dropped the ladder and routed the marines.

Two of our ladder contact the walls without any opposition. A grave mistake on the hands of the enemy.
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>>172851852
Had this happen one playthrough
>Military alliance with dwarves empire and brets, wood elves like making a bee line for me and they're a pain to fight as counts
>Make peace with them while I end up moving into the remains of kislev and becoming the chaos buffer
>Deal with archaon and since I really don't like dealing with wood elves as counts I have my allies join in declaring war on the welves
>Combined might of empire dwarves and brets actually take out welves
>Proceed with diplomacy shenanigans to have empire brets and dwarves all at war with each other
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>>172873172
Our brave infantry are met with withering arrow fire, but are not giving an inch of rightful roman lands to the barbarians. Our spearmen move up to counter any further cavalry assaults. Most of our skirmishers have pulled back and are rearming.
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>>172873480
Maybe you should get off your horses, guys. Man the walls or something. I mean, i'm no military genius, but shit. This isn't going too good.
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>>172872304
Thy're literally a faction of autistic frogs.

wew
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>>172867743
pek
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>>172872947
Are you sure
maybe i got confused then. Sorry about that.
I was pretty sure all big monsters got the trait that says they count as siege units
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>>172873480
It comes as no surprise that our superior roman infantry makes short work of the barbarian levies. While our troops slowly but surely push back the barbarian invaders, our exploratores move to outflank the enemy defenders. Our reserve foederati has finally made it to the walls, opening up a new front and surprising an enemy unit of spearmen. So far, so good.
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>>172873894
Hey now, don't forget the autistic lizards that feed them their tendies
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>>172873894

It was not in the Great Plan for them be doing any of this.

None of the Slann alive right now ever met with any of the Old Ones, or saw them for that matter. They only had a very vague and general idea of what they were like when they talked to the First Generation Slann.

So in general, lizardman society worships the Old Ones but the Old Ones as they know them through thousands of years of hearsay, guesswork and trying to interpret what the Slann have to say about them on occasion.
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When the FUCKING FUCK is Call of Warhammer 1.5
>just a few more days they said
>very soon they said
>just a few more things they said
Meanwhile some cuck on the moddb page comments says he's already playing the beta
REEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>172870543
Well, yes. That's what this whole argument was about - me disliking boob plate.
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>>172874197
At long last we take the gates. The enemy general and his bodyguard put up a fight which wore down our limitanei, but he and his lackeys were nonetheless killed in the fighting. All that remains are some scattered archers and the last remaining general. Our javelinmen move up to screen the attack of Belisarius himself.
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>>172844047

>History is boring.
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Empire 2 when
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>>172844047
He's not wrong. I mean, we already know what's going to happen.
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Stop playing fantasy
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>>172874978

No we don't, TW games are sandbox, otherwise every rome game would end up with Rome swallowing the whole map
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Redpill me on great eagles. They seem to do a whole lot of nothing.
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>>172874829
>tfw forgot image.

The charge thing didn't really work out, the general charged our spearmen as we were preparing our skirmishers. Looks like he didn't want to go down without a fight. The cunt.
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>>172874592
I have the 1.5 beta too, it's really fucking good and definitely worth the wait. We all give the devs a poke or two but they won't say anything beyond le ebin soonâ„¢
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What faction should I play in Atilla? I don't have dlc
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>>172875261
Thankfully, we won soon after without too high casualties. Everyone rejoices as our expedition has captured its first large city.
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>>172875249
Yes, that's true
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>>172874517

Making a Slann mad at you though does not end well.

El Cadavo tried again after this.
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>>172875249

They're not great

Main use is swarming enemy lords on flying mounts
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>>172875428
someone post the rollchart for me and this guy

>>172875491
i'm not replying but lurking
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New trailer was pretty sweet.

Nice to have so much information this early on:

High Elves
>Tyrion and Teclis

Dark Elves
>Malekith and Morathi

Lizardmen
>Mazdamundi and Kroq-Gar

Skaven
>Lord Skrolk and ???

Any guesses on the Skaven LLs? Some people are saying Thanquol due to his popularity/prevalence but I feel like Thanquol should start in the Old World at Skavenblight or something, not in Lustria. I have to imagine both of the starting LL positions for Skaven at launch will be in Lustria.

Which are you going to play first, /twg/ ?

I'm thinking I'll go Dark Elves as Malekith for my first playthrough, my first campaign in TW:W was as Mannfred.
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>>172875675

Thanquol has had run ins with the Dark Elves, and has been in Lustria as well.

Why not debut him in Total Warhammer pissing off the High Elves too?
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>>172875491
Current situation is as follows: John the Armenian managed to make the two Vandals armies loose track of his, but was unable to rendezvous with us due to having to put down a germanic revolt in Thysdrus. After taking Hadrumentum, our army moved immediately to reclaim Thuburbo, which fell swiftly and with little fighting. Belisarius, John and other members of the officer's club are discussing wether to fight a pitched battle with the Vandals or not.
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>>172875675
Most likely they will start in Lustria and Southlands.
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Sargon if you're in this thread you're a fucking bad coward
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>>172875368
LET ME PLAY IT TOO, UPLOAD IT SOMEWHERE
DO IT FOR THE GOOD OF THE PEOPLE
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>>172876225
>tfw you keep forgetting the images.
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>>172876238
I could see Queek Headtaker starting in either Skavenblight or the Southlands with the goal of retaking Eight Peaks.
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>>172875675
The dude on the Carnosaur wasn't Kroq-Gar and we didn't see Morathi, but it's probably right so whatever. If the Skaven do start in Lustria then Skrolk is a must, Thanquol can be anywhere in the under empire since seers just wander at will. But the skaven campaign might start in Skavenblight anyway.

Will probably play Skaven, played them since 6th edition but I prefer Mazdamundi and Malekith to most the Lords in the last game.
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Rolling for next campaign
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>>172875491
how many kills did your skirmishers get?
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>>172875675
>Lord Skrolk

lolno
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I just fought my first battle as Vampire Cunts, and my skellies started crumbling despite Whatshisface Von Carstein being right next to them. Why?
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>>172876476
members of the officer's club, wat do?

>>172876854
50-150. They fired from long range and the enemy had some cover. It's decent, imho.
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>>172876598
They said LLs now get unique starting positions, so one Skaven LL in Lustria and the other in teh Old World makes sense.

Add one more as DLC who also wants K8P later for maximum jewing.
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>>172876373
I'm sorry Anon, I'm afraid I can't do that
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>>172875010
every total war game plays like 'fantasy' compared to whatever if any historical accuracy

>o we have an old roman shield, and the propaganda wall* hadrian*
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>>172876358
where did this come from?
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>>172876963
Name me a member of Clan Pestilens with more lore behind them.

Go ahead, I'll wait.
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IN THE NAME OF ALMIGHTY GOD
>>
FUCKING WARMIES GET OUT OF MY JUNGLE
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>172877106
Who said there'd be a Pestilens LL?
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>>172877005
Adopt.
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>>172877027
They want TW:W2 to be a stand-alone though. Which means they won't put a second starting point in the Old World (maybe the Southlands, but that is the closest they'll get).

Any Old World starting points for Skaven will likely be DLC/FLC.
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>>172877191
Do others agree?

bonus: pic that should have been posted.
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>>172874592
You mean Beginning of the end times?
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Why does Attila look better than Warhammer?
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>>172877259
They'll probably give skaven a starting point in the old world on the big map that unites both games, since its going to be slightly different from each of the individual maps anyway.
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>>172877346
why does warhammer have no good maps
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>>172877065
Fuck this shit
1.5 better be out in a few days or you will step on all the lego blocks in the world
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>>172877178
The second game predominantly takes place in Lustria you fucking retard.

During the End Times, following the Great Uprising of the Skaven around the world, the Clan Pestilens was tasked with destroying Lustria and the Lizardmen. For several years Lord Skrolk waged the war on behalf of his master who remained in Skavenblight with the rest of the Council. The war had both great success and great failure, with many Temple Cities falling to Skrolk's assaults. In the end the whole continent was immolated by the destruction of Morrslieb when great fragments of the moon strike the Warhammer World, and the vast majority of the Clan was wiped out. Skrolk himself survived thanks to the intervention of the Verminlord Vermalanx the Corrupt who spirited away the grievously wounded Skrolk just before impact after he had been defeated by the ancient Scar leader Kroq-Gar.

You are delusional if you think they aren't going to include him.
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>>172875368
you have the TK traits?
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>>172877001
the lord just gives a leadership boost, he doesnt make them immune to morale loss
Skellies crumble easily, they're just there to tie the enemy up while you get dogs and monsters around to flank. Flanking can give a bit of morale back to hose skeletons though
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>>172877098
Some kid who ran from me in MP after I rekt his army, the clip is from the Simpsons https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LbExEydMKg
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>>172877259
it's standalone but it has the entire map and factions, with just the 4 playable factions to start with. But yeah it's hard to know if Skaven will get many original cities in the old world.
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What is the best Warhammer trailer and why is it Bretonnia?
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>>172877346
the background looks horrible, unlike warhammer. yet I miss those attila settlement defensives so much, fuck warhammer
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>>172877334
Yes ofc
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>No naval battles
>There's a literal ocean between the continents

bravo
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>>172877486
I'm not saying Pestilens won't be included, I'm just saying a clan lacking in proper famous named characters probably won't get one of the two LL places.
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>>172875675
Lizardmen first, then High Elves, after that I'll probably try the new main campaign that takes up the whole world.
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>>172877646
think this was because they couldn't get the license for them
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>>172877563
The French pay well.
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>>172877646
There is naval battles, they're like Medieval II how most people prefer them.
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>>172877663
If the game wasn't taking place in Lustria, I would agree with your logic.
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>>172877536
1) thought it was about sargon of akkad
2)what makes you think he's in here?
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>>172877887
becuase all warhammer total war players are autistic and congregate in /twg/ or /r/totalwar
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>>172877346
>>172877646

Why is it hisfags can't posts about the merits of their games without bringing up Warhammer?

How badly did Warhammer cuck these people mentally?
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>>172877504
Like a list? No. Can't look them up right now either. If they're anything like Skaven then they'll have one or two racial traits and earn the rest.
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>>172877839
It's not just taking place in Lustria you know, that's like saying TWWH1 takes place in Bretonnia.
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S T O R M F I E N D S
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How easy is it to learn Necromancy in Warhammer. Also what the hell is in Nagash's books anyway? How big are they?
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>>172877949
>t. TWCenter neckbearded pedophile
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>>172877991

Why do you assume I don't play warhammer?

Just because I shit on it rightfully so doesn't mean I'm an histfag
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>>172877515
No, I mean capital C Crumbling, like how they are supposed to without anyone around to animate them. Or can mere morale loss cause that to happen?
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>>172877806
>how most people prefer them
What do you mean
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>>172877306
We attack the Vandal heir and his barbarian army, since this is less of a pitched battle since we have a huge advantage in men. Joining us will be the Thuburbo garrison. Nobiscum Deus.

John is also putting down another revolt in Hadrumentum.
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>>172877991
After the announcement of TWW2 the cucking levels are off the charts
>mfw TWW3 will release before the new historical game
Now this is the butthurt of legends
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>>172877646
Blame GW, with their retarded license bullshit thing
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>>172878048
No, it is like saying TWWH1 takes place in the Old World... which it does.

TWWH2 takes place in the New World... with a predominant focus on Lustria.

Look man if you want to stick your fingers in your ears and go "nyah nyah nyah not gonna happen" feel free to do so, but don't be surprised when we end up with some Clan Pestilens LLs.
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>>172877949
>and congregate in /twg/ or /r/totalwar
>/twg/
whats wrong with /twg/ :^)
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>>172878156
morale loss causes it
VC units dont rout when their leadership drops, they stay and fight but slowly crumble and die off
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>>172878180
>tfw forgetting another image.
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>>172878145
I didn't assume you don't play Warhammer. I simply assumed you were a cucked faggot based on the way you presented yourself publicly... you know, as a cucked faggot and all.

Feel free to keep shit talking Warhammer, but it doesn't make Attila a good game. I own and play both, just like yourself. I'm just not nearly as delusional apparently.
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>>172878145
are you the navel guy?
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I have nothing against a tw wh, but it's a shame having a shit game as first not historical tw
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>>172877563
I actually thought that one was just okay, and I'm a Bretonnia fan. It doesn't hurt that half the trailer gets used for the intro movie when you play the campaign.

Beastman trailer has a lot of energy and even a little character, since it follows an Empire guy for most of it. Vampire Counts trailer is flawed because Mannfred, but it's also got some similar good stuff - 'the dark is my realm, the grave, my throne' is a sweet line, and the fact that you follow a Witchhunter and some Averlander troops makes it more fun.
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>>172878237
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>>172878174
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>>172877806
I think it says something that you're the first person I've had to use this reaction image for. It means that a majority of people that I've interacted with haven't been as idiotic as you.
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>>172878526
"The enemy tremble at our numbers!" -Battle advisor.

The enemy seems to take the initiative while our troops work their way around their flanks. This could become interesting. Our skirmishers will do short work on any advance on our line, fortunately!
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>>172878237
It's not really their fault same as how Blizzard fucked them over, they started before this shit was taken seriously and never sorted out the legalities with leaving designers and fans. They don't have full rights to a lot of games like necromunda, mordheim, gorkamorka, some editions of warhammer/40k.

I don't know why they don't give the license for dreadfleet to CA though, it's at least units for 10 factions.
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>>172878763
Obviously they not going to write in FAQ that GW not giving them license
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>People liked naval battles
I could never get used to the slow as fuck pacing and lack of strategy they took. Especially those shitty shogun 2 naval battles.
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>>172878123
Broadly speaking there are two ways to learn necromancy. You either, a) find somebody who knows necromancy and get them to teach you, or b) start dabbling on your own. In the case of a) there are risks such as getting turned into materials or food; in the case of b) there are hindrances such as basic know-how, and that's why b) typically applies to people who are already somewhat learned in magic.
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>>172877806
Honestly I don't see why people like TW Naval Battles to begin with, they've always been super shitty and literally just
>lel ramming speed!
smashing shit together into a giant clusterfuck.

That is entertaining once, and only once.
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>>172864149
hyrule total war
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>>172879130
>lack of strategy
>>172879165
>lel ramming speed!
You never played gunpowder did you?
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>>172879028
>Blizzard fucked them over
HAHAHAHAHAHA

>Be GW
>Small studio who wants to translate your universe into videogame
>Lol fuck off, videogames are for nerdy losers haha
>They continue on their own and become a multi-million company
>Become the laughing stock of IPs and block videogames out of sheer butthurt until you kill the entire setting
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>>172877065

That looks really good for being mtw2
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>>172879018
All of a sudden, alot happened at once. The enemy foolishly split their forces, using their cavalry to attack our flanking forces, whilst engaging their infatry with our vanguard. Although they have managed to rout one of our skirmisher units, it'll only be a matter of time before we rout their cavalry, and hammer-'n'-anvil the living shit out of the barbarian infantry.
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>>172879330
yes, as I said
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>>172879002
could be winnable if you can snipe his arty with your cav
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>>172877096

This is the worst meme.

You can like and support the continued development of TWW without the false equivocations; that's a babby tier rebuttal.
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>>172878592

Attila is superior though, Warhammer is nothing byt Attila with less features, and the features that are in the game are just Attila features chopped up and spread among the various factions

Can't wait for Ogres to get food and Skaven to get diseases lol, they will probably market them as "unique" mechanics.

Who am I kidding, they will probably get the "unique" pathways

I love how the unique empire mechinic is literally a part of the family tree, and how it was reused for the elves
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>>172879364
The enemy cavalry routed, the enemy infantry routed after a short engagement with our infantry (our edges wrapped around to encircle the enemy infantry with no help from the allied cavalry. Our cavalry are currently routed the enemy skirmishers and generals, while our archers are raining hell on the enemy pike phalanx. The battle seems to have already found a victor.
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>>172879610
>Attila is superior though
>mfw

Bait so disgustingly blatant I'm not even gonna touch it.
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>>172879165
>ramming speed
This is why early game shogun 2 naval battles were just auto resolve for me. But most naval battles that i would play involved cannons.
>>172879321
I don't understand the strategy in naval battles it seems. right click the enemy fleet to start firing and wait. What else is there to do? speed of ship is worthless since cannons go fast as fuck and even the fastest ship is slow as fuck. Outnumber the enemy or die.
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>>172877646

>wanting them to waste a single hour of development time on a minigame 90% of players will never use
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>>172879610
The arguments over depth of the games is just retarded.

Warhammer is all about the themeing. Its why its the first Total War game I've played
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>>172879330
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>>172879756

Are you going to present an argument or just keep screaming bait?
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>>172879779

You're right, they should spend that time of development not making basic fucking animations for ranged units or removing formations from the game

Also they should spend even more time butchering sieges to make them the most asinine and boring thing possible.
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>>172878145

You compared the two most recent offerings of the franchise in an off hand way and he immediately starts with the HUUR DUUR HOW BUTTHURT ARE U HISFAG.

Can't make this shit up,
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>>172879002
What turn is this?
I've never seen any of those elite units in an AI army.
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>>172879637
The Vandal heir was killed in the rout, and our men rejoice from the loot taken from barbarians. Skirmishers got anywhere from 9 to 153 kills, with the slingers getting on average the most, while archers both getting about 30-40 kills each. The surviving barbarians are sold as slaves in the reclaimed territories. Our men settle over the winter.
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>>172879778
Concentration of firepower. It's all about bringing the most guns to bear, which isn't necessarily the same as having the most guns. Read up on period correct naval strategy and practice a bit with both small and big ships. Crossing the T is the naval equivalent of a simple hammer and anvil.
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>>172878174
>how most people prefer them

The last good nval battles were in Empire.

Becasue they fucking WORKED there.

Shogun2 was marginal, most battles resulted in a retarded blob of burning ships and autresolving was the easier way once you had a numerical superiority.

Rome2 was so broken that using it as a basis for 'people prefer to autoresolve' and 'naval battles were not popular is just retarded, but it seems that CA is doing exactly that.
I can't comment on Attila, but it looked like rome2.5, so it was probably just as completely terrible as rome2.
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>>172880042
Seems like they altered this meme. :(

Also, while figuring it's still a long time until winter, our men keep reclaiming new towns.
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>>172879610
Hisfags should be brought out back and shot by firing squad. Absolute trash.
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>>172879984

>lots of stuff to do before ships

Making my point senpai.

In any event we KNOW they aren't doing naval battles.

Stay mad.
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>>172880160
>Empire
Why are you skipping over Napoopan and FotS.
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>>172880241
Please stop shitposting
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>>172880017
Go cry about it on reddit with the rest of the delusional nostalgic faggots who don't remember how god damn awful the endlessly copy pasted units of historical total war are.
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>>172855165

So its not just me that thinks they got Benedict Cumberbatch in for Teclis?
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new bread where
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>>172841789

>not Chaos beastman race

They're called Skaven.
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>>172880408
Eat me, nigger.
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>>172880643
>>172880643
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>>172880348

Why are you so proud of eating shit? I don't understand.

You're paying for 2 full priced games with overpiced DLC justified by an half assed mini campaign no one asked for tacked on, and you're ready to die on the cross for them.

Bombardments and vortex still don't fucking work after all this time, rank fire is gone, everyone shoots between units, mages use the same fucking lord animations across the board, using their staff like a shield, I could go on and on
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>>172880628
>they literally worship a chaos god
>snort chaos cocaine all day
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>>172879610
>Warhammer is nothing byt Attila with less features
agree but I just enjoy warhammer way more (except for sieges. those are better for me in attila)

>features that are in the game are just Attila features chopped up and spread among the various factions
>Can't wait for Ogres to get food and Skaven to get diseases
>food and diseas unique to attila
???????????????

>I love how the unique empire mechinic is literally a part of the family tree
I actually like the family tree in warhammer or even Med 2 better than Attila/Rome 2.

> how it was reused for the elves
eh. it was actually done better for them than empire
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>>172879610
Maybe if they hadn't made TW a joke with Rome 2 and then reused the patched bits to make Atlila set in a preiod that is literally about people fighting on the shitpile of history about who owns the biggest dungheap, people would give a shit about 'muh mechanics'.

Is TWW the best ever? Fuck no, I want a new Empire, a fucking WORKING Rome and so on.
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>>172880939
>set in a preiod that is literally about people fighting on the shitpile of history about who owns the biggest dungheap
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>>172880362
Napoleon was a fixed version of Empire with functionally the sasme naval combat, which means it worked and was good.

FotS naval battles were ruined by the period that allowed explosive shells.

This leads to highly RNG-tastic snipefests for most of the game. It works once everyone uses armored ships, but at that point things have generally snowballed so much that it's pointless.
It was better than Rome 2 or S2/RotS, but that is not saying much.
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This general went to shit real fast
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>>172856598
If some filty jezebel tries to steal your precious seed without a marriage contract you hoof her right in the donglitz.
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>>172881543

People are fighting back against the general turning into fucking warhammer general

I don't want my general hijacked by a mediocre TW
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>>172851409
>he fucked up realities framrate.
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>>172881802
>I don't want my general hijacked by a mediocre TW
better keep it to Med 1 then
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>>172878390
>with a predominant focus on Lustria.

Source? I thought the game was focusing on Ulthuan and the vortex.
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>>172878174
>>172878904
>>172878962
>>172879165
>Only four (you)'s.

expected more desu, the poor harvest will hurt the family this year.
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RETAKE THE REALMS
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>>172881802
>people talk about the current total war and the next release
no shit detective, if they weren't talking about this then it'd be a few posts an hour till page 10 eats it. you can still talk about other total wars and have the same number of people reply.
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