/svg/ - Shadowverse General

I've only ever play dragoncraft since forever should I vial every single card i won for all other classes?

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>aggrofag evolves and goes face with a minion
>soulsquash it

>>172818806
kill yourself, faggot

forest is not dead

>>172818950
I never have enough shadows for Soulsquasher T5-6. It's just a vanilla 2/2 for me.

>>172818806
Go back and take your reddit Discord with you.

>>172819051
run unica for the mirror its better

This is why you don't let shadow to be good.

>>172818806
>still didnt fix the mega link
https://mega.nz/#!v51UHZBC!POUt7FJxJwrvUNHXQtUMyj8j-iMOs7gLep9UD8Ee_Bw

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*banishes your path*

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Press F to pay your respects to Nep

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>>172818806
>discord
FUCKING DELET THIS

>>172819206
Havenfags are really slacking. You are the only hope to purge the cancer.

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>always bounce back to 0 points as dragon
>switch to haven, open deck creator and throw in all banish cards
>6 winstreak

My deck loses pretty much to everything except Lunaaggro and it still climbs faster than my 50k vial dragon deck.

>>172819292
Post your dragon deck.

>>172819292
nice varied meta it's fine because skeletons xD

>>172819269
Haven is cancer too though.
Aegis is one of the stupidest cards in the game.

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/ourguy/

So what exactly is wrong with phoenix roost?

>>172819471
it messes up gawain

>>172819230
>Walfrid is like Eachtar but gives Ward instead of Rush
Uh, shadowbabs?

>>172819471
>5pp Aegis

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>dragonfags whining when the answer to their problem is in their class

Fucking babies.

>>172819269
Haven is one of my main classes. I'm just tired of the class, and wanted to play some Blood for a chance. Aegis just plays too similar to previous Haven decks to feel new. I'd love to test out my vengeance midrange decks, but the ladder is bursting at the seams with skeleton cancer.

>>172819552
>5pp spawn 5 skeletons on the enemy side

>>172819552
>play drake clear board
>instantly refilled with skeletons
Good counter

>>172819552
Make a deck that can fit that into the regular p2w deck with 3xsaha 3xlucifer
Go on. I'm waiting

>>172819534
Eachtar makes his own board when you don't have any. It balances out.

>>172819552
>5PP do nothing but flood opponent's board
Nice.

>>172819441
aegis is literally not a problem

if you played an actual good deck you would know this

>>172819440
>fall for the skeleton meme
>never draw catacomb
>get my 1 and 2 drop removed
>get banished
>get Unica/Grimnir'd

I fucking hate aggro shadow yet I keep falling for it every single time, thinking that something will be different. I'm winning much more with a shitty midrange because at least I don't run out of options turn 5 that way.

>>172819715
t. Hag
kys

>>172819649
>>172819660
>>172819712
>cannot clear their board to roast their skeletons

Babies.

>>172819698
>hurdur make the deck for me

Why should I spoonfeed you lot?

>>172819772
>don't draw Prince Catacummies
>win with Reaper and Cerb+Howl
I used to dislike Aggro Shadow but now I love it.

>>172819461
His videos are actually pretty shit desu.

>>172819534

Strickly speaking Eachtar beats Walfrid in a head to head because unlike Walfrid, Eachtar can use shadows to flood the board with tokens.

However, unlike Eachtar, Walfrid puts up a massive trump wall that totally cockblocks aggro and storm cards.

Gonna get real interesting when Gawain drops.

>>172819540
If you're retarded enough to drop one against haven, you deserve it.

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No this is not a bait post and no i dont want (You)s. I just want to voice out my frustrations with this game and why im on the verge of quitting. Pic is so i have SOME credibility to my statements.

I started the game when ROB first hit and i fucking loved it, yes there was cancer in ROB and i dont know if its because I'm used to ROB or something but I feel like this meta is much much worse. I seriously dont have any fucking fun playing.

Shadow wins the game 99% of the time if they drop catacombs with followers on the field,

Aegis is fucking amazing despite what c rank shitters will tell you, and if test of strength is dropped before or during aegis you literally lost the game, its over, youre done. Just like that.

Dragon now consistently gets to 10pp by turn 7 or even 6. Whats even worse is that they have not only some of the best boardclear, they now have more healing then fucking elena, dont even get me started on zell.

Pepe in sword is fucking retarded, its not even that strong its just terrible unfun game design.

Blood autowinning the game if you dont have a bahamut or themis is also fucking retarded.

D shift is still d shift

They have given a 2/3 3pp ward that clears the board on turn 10 and does 4 burn damage to every single class in the game. This being dropped on turn 3 or turn 10 (even less if ramp dragon) pretty much ends the game if youre playing a tempo or aggro deck.

It seriously feels like the game is decided in one turn now. It doesnt matter how well you played it just matters now who can get their broken shit off faster.

Did anyone feel similar right after ROB dropped? I just feel like the meta is so fucking cancer right now and games are decided in 1 turn because of I win the game cards. Thanks for the shitposts and concedes guys, I'll probably come back once the game is actually fixed.

>>172819791
Yes because clearing aggro tempo by turn 4 is very easy, retard.

>>172819848
I really wanted Sword to stay tier 1.5 but Cygames absolutely will not allow it.

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>>172819892
Yup, sounds like this is your first card game. Got comfy with the meta you started out with and now that it's flipped you have no clue what do do.

>>172819912
Did you just come here during ToG and have never dealt with Daria or Soccermom before? Cry some more.

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Any tips to improve this?

>>172820027
It is my first card game. Is it normal for this to happen? I seriously feel like killing myself everytime i play against shadow or dragon now. I can still rape everyone as d shift or dragon but i dont want to only play 2 decks i enjoy playing all crafts.

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>>172819487
Sorry for the delay anon! There's more stuff you can do like adding some Imprisoned Dragons, but this is a good foundation for you I think! It's doing great work for me so far.

I'm 17/20 on no concede private game
pls help 56645
go 1st win go second pass, unless you are second and need win then just spam emote to communicate this

>>172820041
Not him, but if you were able to clean up Daria vomit you were safe for a while unless they immediately had another. You clean up Shadow vomit and it immediately comes back and then they Catacomb again or just OTK with Eachtar.

>>172819892
>Runeshitter
Please quit.

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Just Catacomb bro, just Cerb+Howl bro, just Eachtar bro. Oh wait, you literally did all this, and I cleared your board with lions, rituals, and healed to full with Curates.

>>172820096

>3 1-drops

You either go 5 1-drops (midrage), or you go 7-9 1-drops (aggro)

>>172820207
If you werent blind youd see i play nearly all crafts dumbfuck. Lets see your profile

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Find the lethal

>>172820214
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

>>172820096
get rid of ding dongs and resentment for orthus and the 2/2 that spawns ghost when evolved ally follower

>>172820214
Yes we get it, Haven is cancer.

>>172819892
>average rune player
Whats wrong? Dshift isnt instawin anymore?

>>172820274
Just revelation bro

>>172820201
Oh? I was so sure you guys sneezed at shadow and its numerous of board flood pre-release.

Just Lightning Blast bro

>>172819942
Just wait till Gawain. Otohimeme with walfrid will absolutely wreck shadow. It also stall aegis.
Shadow cards only seem good because of the initial shock bit once tou learn how to deal with them, they always turn out subpar compared to other classes. Hectar has already fallen off.

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where have all the haventrash gone?

yesterday I was vsing constant havens but haven't seen a single one today

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Are you a loyal Bloodkin, anon?

>>172820149
Yes, card game companies love to print more powerful cards to try to keep the game fresh and collect lots of >>> $$$$$$$ <<< . The power creep is real.

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>>172820283
>Mama papa they're banishing my skeletons!

>>172820334
It's better now than before desu. Just harder to play.

>>172820214
there, that's proof shadow is balanced stop crying babies

>>172820334
D shift is way fucking better then last expansion. I now have a chance against nearly every single meta deck instead of autolosing to a quarter of the meta.

Why dont you learn to read fucking dumbass?

>>172820250
>>172820294
But what about draw power? I have an empty hand a lot cause stuff is cleared so easily

>>172820182
thanks vampy
18/20 now
please help 56645

>>172820041
I've been playing since DE. What the fuck do these cards have to do with the topic?

>>172820357
That's not lethal you idiot

>>172820420
Put in some soul conversions

>>172820420

I use soul conversion. That's all I really need. You don't need draw when a topdeck is a board flood.

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>>172820367
Both Dragon and Haven are dying down to the Luna horde.

>>172820367
I'll play you if you want anon, I need private match completions anyway

>>172820368
>semen stew
>spoiling it

Come on now

>>172820368
>will never spoil vania's stew with my meat rod

>>172820367
Netdecking retards realized aggro Shadow is less effort and faster. Shadow also has no auto loss match ups like Aegis vs D.Shift. Their Haven match is only bad if Haven techs Ritual, or they don't get Catacomb early enough.

>>172820368
the fuck is wrong with his head

>>172820420
2 soul conversions are enough

>>172820149
>plays dshift
>dares to complain about 1 turn wins.

Go fuck yourself. I hope you get swarmed by skeletons.

>>172820436
Yes, a couple of skeletons are worse than a turn 3 5/6 ward or a board of 2/2s and 3/4s (and then they refill next turn).

so how do you think they're gonna nerf dragon?

either they'll hit its healing, or they'll pull a roach/gobu thing again and hit grimner

the perfect ramp isn't as much of an issue as the ability to shrug off any and all damage, which is very silly

>>172819892
HAHA Dumbass Dariashitter spammed Daria to undeservedly get to Masters and now you can't make any progress into the class because you DONT ACTUALLY BELONG THERE

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

KYS

THIS IS PROOF THAT DARIA ALLOWED STPID PLAYERS TO SUCCEED

What is a deck which autowins against luna pedonigger? I was thinking aegis.

>>172820274

>Aza
>Laura gives Aza storm evo hit Tia
>claw to finish off Tia

That was not hard at all.

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any thoughts?

>>172820526
Lightning proportions.

>>172820560
>Hit Grimnir
Fuck off aggro cancer. How about they hit DoD?

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Is this the most heartbreaking picture of all time?

http://i.imgur.com/yTEvAfA.jpg
This is your hag for today.

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>>172819892
I started when the game itself first dropped and I fucking hated RoB so much I quit for two months. I came back to it on a whim before the new expac dropped, but I am seriously on the verge of quitting again. I think this
>Pepe in sword is fucking retarded, its not even that strong its just terrible unfun game design.
Is my main complaint overall. The game has just gotten so unfun. We have literally unkillable shit, two million ways to flood the board, still no real answer to DShift, a 2/3 ward that clears the board and hits face in the late game as neutral. Every loss feels so frustrating. It feels like there's no skill at all anymore, just a bunch of broken shit that's very difficult or actually impossible to deal with. My winrate has't even been bad this expansion, I've been climbing pretty steadily, it's just been some of the worst experiences I've had playing this game so far.
I think things have just gotten too extreme. The game was powercreeped way too hard. Whenever I play now, all I can think of is how much of a joke this game is.
I honestly think Hearthstone might actually be a better game now even though it's garbage too.

>>172820149
Yes. That's how they make money. Print new stuff to completely powercreep the old stuff so you'll buy it.

>>172819892
>I just feel like the meta is so fucking cancer right now and games are decided in 1 turn because of I win the game cards
let me guess, you're a Steam player? I play exclusively on mobile and while I'm obviously not explicitly Cygames' target audience I'm fairly close to it, and I fucking love this meta for exactly that reason
every game is luck anyway, in any meta, if you're playing a deck where you have actual choices to make it's still the case that those choices are just struggling to climb up to the peak performance of your hand + shuffle luck, which might be worse than your opponent's by sheer chance... that's what you're signing up for with a CCG
the post-piercing meta was kind of annoying, too many decks with room for play with or against them, when really I'm just here to see the precise sequence that cards are played in this game and maybe incidentally get a win, reminded me of DE meta which I also disliked to the point I stopped playing the game
if TMP continues on its current pace I'm not afraid of that happening again

>>172820560
You complaining about Dragon in a aggro shadow meta?

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>>172819942

Sword is an example of a craft that will always be good but unlike Forest or Rune it's not because of overpowered class mechanics, but simply because the individual cards are so strong.

Stuff like Floral Fencer and Alwidas Revenge just generate so much value that even in this meta it can be absolutely brutal to deal with.

>>172820636
i play control tho

and again, going off the daria situation, they're more likely to hit the neutral card than really address faction specific cards (but if they do, it's probably sybil)

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>>172820612

I can see the direction that were you trying to when you posted that graph. However I think this picture is better for illustrating your ideas.

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>All this asshurt over Luna

Who's the bab now?

>>172820547
Theres a difference between a combo deck and everything else you fucking dumbass kys
>>172820564
You're seriously going to ignore my 945 wins with other crafts? End your life. Also i mostly play d shift
>>172820668
pretty much this

>>172820214
>look at me guys, I won with a class specifically designed to counter everything shadow stands for now

Why don't you go play some Seraph? Oh wait you can't, too scared of getting banished by lightning blast. Fucking hypocrite.

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It's only a matter of time before he's promoted to party member.

>>172820214
Post list

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>>172820426
>>172820487
Get one from me

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>>172820746
>Haven play forbidden ritual

MOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

>>172820771

He's already in my deck. It's not like shadow has qualms about using vanilla 2-drops.

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>>172820654
No

>>172820560
They're going to hit Shadow before Dragon.

>>172820746
See >>172820765

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>>172819892
>this is your average runeshitter

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>>172820662
>hag mounts

>>172820721

Sword cards have to be a bit better because their innate class mechanics don't do anything. Being an Officer or Commander on it's own doesn't mean shit. It confers no bonus, and you need the proper cards to make it mean something.

You need to have other cards to interact with those mechanics. Unlike, say, Shadow, whose shit kicks in regardless of what they have in their deck eventually, or Rune, whose mechanics kick in on any spell, not just specific cards to "activate" it.

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>people complain in RoB when they die too fast without being able to do anything
>people complain in ToG when aggro gets slowed down

>>172820918
Post your 945 wins with other crafts pedophile

>>172820668
>It feels like there's no skill at all anymore
Where was the skill with Daria and Roach?

>>172820274
there is no lethal on the pic

Bloodbros and Shadowbabs are pals

>>172820401
>>172820406
>>172820751
What mix of the new cards do you run? Have you cut your Merlins like some people have? I dropped Merlin for enchanted library and it feels great, no more 4PP bricks in my hand, draws out the wazoo, but I'm not a rune veteran and I barely understand how to build the deck

>>172820778
sorry but I'm interested in actually playing, not sandbagging

>>172820771
>drop sexton
>sonna...

He already saved me a couple of times. Fucking hag tried to banish something with cuckgel and kill my 4/4 reaper, only to make it 5/5.
It was really funny seing the pause when he realized what he's done.

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>>172820662

>posted the piercings version

Good man.

>>172820973
>azazel
>laura gives him storm
>evolve laura
>kill goblin mage
>hit face
>razory claw for finisher

>>172820968
Slowed down? You die 6 turn against most shadow still

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>>172820986
this 100%, anyone who says otherwise is a FALSEFLAGGER trying to tear us apart

>>172819892
(you)

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So there is a lot of talk about /svg/ being wrong but I think we can all agree now that most of us were right about Luminous Mage being amazing and an instant 3x staple even in the crowded sword 5 slot.

Fucking fabulous card.

>>172820968

They made aggro too slow, but then added a bunch of I Win buttons at higher costs.

So now it's turned into who can toss out their I Win button first, or who can draw more I Win's first.

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>>172820662
literally goblinmount demon

>>172821016
can do that too, idc I want the gold more than I want a quick play

>>172820751
>You're seriously going to ignore my 945 wins with other crafts?

I'm going to ignore it because you could have a billion wins in other classes but the FACT remains that you ONLY have 200 Master Score

Uninstall Shadowverse and Delete yourself from this universe.

YOU

DONT

DESERVE

MASTERS

>>172820918

It feels good. I'm actually sad about how blood turned about, but I love the salt.

>>172821074
>whoever plays or draws their good cards wins first
welcome to card games i guess

>>172821072

I have not failed to have this thing immeadiatly board wiped or otherwise removed next turn. It's a 5pt free evolve. Which is alright, I guess. It definitely has it's use, but it also is a one use thing because letting it stick around is suicide.

>>172821072
it's the new floral fencer free win machine of arena

>>172821042
Fuck off Shadman

>>172821004
I still run 3 Merlin, 3 Lou.

Literally 0 reason to cut Merlin. I pretty much only evolve her unless I'm playing against aggro and need to evolve Levi, but lately I've been using Blade Mage over Levi.

3 Merlin 3 Lou and I'm something like 30-6 with new Dshift. The amount of consistency is insane. Library is 100% a waste imo.

>>172821004
None, literally none they are all shit. Run 3 merlin. Dont feel like spoonfeeding you and i just gave you some of the best advice which has taken me weeks of testing to figure out. Youre welcome. run 1 petrification also

>>172820751
>You're seriously going to ignore my 945 wins with other crafts?
Hard to take you seriously when sword is the only honest craft and you have 0 wins with it.

>>172820662
is there more?

>>172820214
LIST???

>>172820668
git_gud

>>172821072
I don't play Sword at all and I knew this thing would be retarded from the reveal. People saying it was meh were retarded.

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How can Eachtar be real if shadows aren't real?

>>172821125
The season literally started yesterday holy shit

>>172820971
There wasn't. RoB was just as bad as ToG. That's when this game started to get so powercreeped that skill really stopped mattering. Board flood got ridiculous, burst damage was everywhere, there was even more fucking storm, more I Win cards were printed. ToG has just expounded basically all these issues.
Back in standard, the power level was way lower and there was much more room for actual decision making. Yeah there were still autopilot decks (looking at you Sword), but the best deck in the game, PtP, was actually a pretty skill-testing deck. If you sucked with PtP you would flounder and lose.

>>172821314
MOOOOOOM I GOT ANOTHER ONE DON'T PUT THE CAMERA AWAY

am i the only one that likes this format because it isnt dominated by 1-2 decks

>>172821327
Ranks never reset

>>172821327

NICE REASONS

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>>172821216

I heard that piercings make ero zones more sensitive and I like girls that react easily. You don't have to compare me to Shadman.

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This is a pretty nice April Fools card they made. When is it getting removed?

>>172821373
fuck off shadowscum

>>172821408
Not him but master score does.

>>172821378
>because it isnt dominated by 1-2 decks
The expansion isn't even a week old anon. People are still experimenting.
The fact that it's this unfun already is a really bad sign. Just wait until shit gets optimized

>>172821378
>60% winrate shadow

>>172821441
Fuck OFF Shadman

>every day some new shitter build clogs up ranked
>first is was dragondildo's
>then havenshitters
>now we're on the shadowanker express

I hope the meta stabilizes soon, this shit is the worst part of new sets. I don't want to fight 20 of the same fucking craft in a row. Shit's boring.

>>172821453
Your life is the April Fools that never ends

>>172821453
>Siegfried
Too slow

>>172820971
this, now dragon can finally kill you with storm bs as well as forest could in vanilla and it's the end of the world

>>172821072
/svg/ is pretty much always wrong. People whine about Aegis all the time now, but at release it was pretty much 9 mana do nothing.

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>>172821314
>>172820214
Oh and here's the list, happy chemo fellow hags. Make sure to bring plenty of salty Shadowbab tears into the thread.

Off screen are 2 Aegis.

>>172821453
not before they remove sybil of the waterwyrm

or at least healing from her

>>172821228
>Dont feel like spoonfeeding you and i just gave you some of the best advice which has taken me weeks of testing to figure out.
i'm sorry anon your humor is too advanced for me

>>172821582
Its only 9 mana do nothing if you dont know how to play. Any decent Haven player knows what cards to save for a safe Aegis play.

>>172821372
>citing ptp as a skill testing deck
ptp took as much skill as roach did
your problems with RoB and ToG were in DE
cancer decks like otohime, elana seraph, ptp and storm haven are the same shit we have now, just with flashier paint

ITS ALWAYS BEEN THE SAME SHIT

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how do I improve my snakes

>>172821097
gg, thanks for the game morde

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>>172821213

If you play this thing after floral fencer, not only do you get a essentially a blitz lancer with Knight Evo but you buff any of Floral's surviving homeboys +1 for the turn.

Can also be used to buff any officer OR commander including Otohime's guards.

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>>172820668
>skill
>card games
I stopped right there. Just take it, you earned it.

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>>172821372
>PtP, was actually a pretty skill-testing deck.

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Dear DE:
I'm sorry I ever got mad at you, or called you a bad expansion. I didn't know how fucking stupid the designers really were and how much they would fuck up this game.
I can't believe there was a time half the thread complained about Beastcall Aria.

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>people complaining about LITERALLY every class
so this is the best and most balanced expansion we've had yet then

>>172821453
Just kill him through all his wards, heals, banishes and board clears brah. It's balanced, just Odi-...
You're probably a shadowjew anyway if you complain about honestcraft. Stay mad, anudah shoa remember the 6 girillion etc etc.

>>172821624
>asked for advice
>gave advice
>"lol shitposter"
Tell me how that no merlin d shift works out buddy

>>172821667
thanks hag
19/20 one more lads, then I can finallly actaully concede when people ask for concedes here <:^)
>>172820182
56645

>>172821723
Except forest.

>>172821645
>no Bloodmoon
This madman.

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>>172821723
>so this is the best and most balanced expansion we've had yet then

it actually is

>>172821592
Fuck I just pulled and liquified a judge

>its a "i totally got to master with pure skill guys, trust me tog is shit because I cant win!" episode

>>172821719
I dont know about you, but i hated elana meta more than anything else on this game

>B L O O D M O O N
>L
>O
>O
>D
>M
>O
>O
>N

>>172821709
>>172821631
I know you guys hated PtP but it actually was; you could even see it. People who tried playing PtP in the low ranks had no fucking clue what they were doing and lost.
>>172821698
A game can have elements of both luck AND skill. They aren't mutually exclusive.
But the skill part is completely gone in SV now.

>>172821726
I like how people say "Just win before turn 9" are playing some fantasy Shadowverse where Haven players just do nothing for 9 turns.

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>>172821582
The best part about Aegis isn't the salt now but it was when that one retard kept saying it would die to Bane and random effects.

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Post em

>>172821723
More or less. I can kinda understand how the babs new to card games are shellshocked by this though.

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>>172821723
This guy gets it.

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>>172821768
other than bloodmoon, should I add grimnir

>>172821808
You will need them to fight all classes except dragon

>>172821723
haven't seen anyone bitch about forest other than bitching about how forest got the shaft

>>172821072
Still waiting for Gwain to be fixed so I can play this cutie. Luminous Army is CUTE.

>>172821845

Wait, there was somebody that wasn't shitposting?

Because I really dragged out my "confusion" whenever Aegis got brought up.

>>172821810
>It's a "I'm going to deflect all criticism of this game by just saying git gud" episode

>>172820367
I ran into a bunch lately and they kept cucking my frogs. I just switched to a regular aggro deck and did much better.

>>172821719
>turn 1 pinion prayer
>turn 2 beastcall aria
>turn 3 hallowed dogma on beastcall + lay down a sacred plea

Holy shiit, great times we lived in back in the day.

>>172821827
> People who tried playing PtP in the low ranks had no fucking clue what they were doing and lost.
you can literally say the same thing about roach and dshift

>>172821870
No, Spiderweb Imps.

>>172821645
By running an actual snake deck? All you did was stick it into an aggro deck. Baphomet is outside combo or control, unless you're using him to fetch Temptress.

Your deck is just all over the place, don't run 1 drops if you're not ending the game on turn 6. Blood doesn't have 10 damage burst late game in 1 card to get away with that shit.

>>172821630
Well that's the point, you never know how good a card really is, until you can put it to use. Bahamut release was also "pretty meh for such an important card, dies to dod", but look how he defined the control meta.
Right now people also say "gawain won't do shit for sword, dead craft", but who knows what will happen.

>>172821801
Why are you posting that image I took of my waifu during our honeymoon?

>>172821723
>want to play as elf
>can't because they got deleted

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>>172821004
Here's my D-Shift with Levi.

When I run Blade Mage instead of Levi, I take out Levi x2 Windblast x1 and put in Blade Mage x3.

I almost always evolve Merlin over Levi, but you should be able to tell when you need to evolve Levi over Merlin.

>>172821926
I honestly believe there were ESL shitters that thought Aegis could still be BANED or Themises until they actually tried it.

>>172821748
I didn't ask for advice, I asked for personal experience, and you claimed you had weeks of experience which is self-evidently an absurd claim given how new tempest is
were you not shitposting? i don't know how to take your post seriously either, I'm sorry

>>172821832
They do nothing for 3 turns (4 if they get really unlucky and dont have sacred plea) then win the game

>>172821723
this actually is a good expansion
shitters have some kind of weird nostalgia or think any decks we have now are more cancer than the ones we had back in DE
adapt you pussies

>>172821827
I see idiots playing Soulsquisher without 4 shadow in hope of killing of an evolved follower. Just because some wagonjumpers are stupid doesn't mean a deck takes skill.

>>172821941
I hated Storm Haven but it wasn't nearly as frustrating as all the bullshit in the game now

>>172821719
I started during DE and Elana meta was my absolutely most hated part of the game. I enjoyed RoB and ToG way more.

>>172822034

>my D-shift with Levi

So, regular D-shift?

>>172821764
>>172821982

wolfbolt is pretty strong

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>>172822069

>>172821827
Maybe for those 52 card games. But TCGs, CCGs, nope.

H E A R T OF T H E C A R D S

>>172821904
wolfbolt is still as strong as ever, as shown by that master player on openrec earlier.

>>172821941
and people think they have it hard with aggro shadow
at least you can tech in grimmir now a days

>>172822128
I like to run Blade Mage over Levi but all the aggro right now...

>>172822069
Please never post again.

>>172822049
Yeah because d shift got so much great new support.
I'm not going to fucking spoonfeed you you autistic c rank fucktard. Play the deck for 1k games like and find out what works best for you

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19/20, 56645
one more no concede game please lads

>>172822147
It got next to nothing so it's not shiny and new but I agree it's still high T2.

>>172822069
autism: not even once

>>172822074
>Good expansion
>More shit with no answers so any non Haven control decks just can't be played
>Board flood stronger than ever
>Shadow extra sticky
>Just straight up fucking obnoxious, unfun cards like vanguard
I'm not seeing it.
But hell, maybe I'm just really sick of this game's shit by now. It's just not fun at all anymore. I honestly think the game is just kind of trash

>>172819892
There's still time for people to figure stuff out but I agree this meta could turn out worse than RoB. In RoB (especially post-nerf) any of the "bad" non-meta crafts could still piece together an aggro deck and win most of their games, whereas in this slower meta I'm not sure what crafts like Forest can even do.

>>172822353
Anon. Anon. It's always been trash

>>172821941
You basically lost if they went first if that happened. The only chance of recovering was if you had an Ancient Elf or a couple of May's with good aim. They probably made Art of the Ninja as some kind of protection from turn 3 tigers for Sword.

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>>172821971
care to give us an example deck

>>172822353
>people complain about board floor
>people also complain about all the aoe, removal and grimmir
who do i believe

>>172822353
I agree with you and im actually good at the game unlike these d rank autists. This "lol flood the board and if you have no answer you lose" is gettign really fucking old

>>172822353
>shadow finally gets some thematic class cards
>no! no more skeletons!

Fuck off. You guys complained about this game being removalverse anyway.

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Remember when dragons were talking smack?

>>172821378
We'll actually know next month which decks are dominating when the master rewards starts and the RAGE tourney prelims

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>>172822197
Why do people need 20 wins again? What happened?

>>172822482
It's not our fault your class is, and always has been, fucking obnoxious to play against unless you have a million banish board clears

>>172822467
nobody, these guys will complain about anything

i for one consider this expansion to be fun

>>172822353
stop complaining bab and hit that concede button and never visit these thread again

if you babies are so upset over "unfun" cards why not play go fish or something lol

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This is some preschool "Well MY card can't take damage!" "Oh yeah, well MY card is immune to EVERYTHING!!!!" stupid ass card design.

>>172822521
Sybil or fevor would likely give him another turn at least.

>>172822565
100 gold per different person palyed against in private matches 20 times achievement

>>172822565
newfag or smurf

>>172822602
Yes how dare we actually want to have fun playing a game

>dragon eggs don't trigger from bahamut
WHY
IT WASN'T EVEN MY BAHAMUT.

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>>172822573

Never thought I'd get done in by a Tyrant while I was trying to finish them off with a Tyrant. Tyrant being a good card was exactly what I was hoping for.

>>172822569
>the only board flood is death's breath pre-tog
>always been

Piss off. And dont you even complain anout nep when she is literally dead. You don't even see kawaii these days. Lucky you.

>>172822521
>inb4 Irasfil into Bahamut into gREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEmnir

Trust me, I've been there.

>>172822726
Because it doesn't have last words?

>>172822610
man you would have hated seraph
>m-m-muh odin
no "meta" decks (mid sword, ptp, stormhaven or dshift) ran him

>>172822756
>nep when she is literally dead
what

>>172822726
Seriously? That's fucking gay. But why eggs in the first place?

>>172822610

I pointed out that Daria was like that too back in RoB. Aegis can't get cheated out. So that's a saving grace.

37215
may i get a concede please?

>>172822569
>Always been
>Were literally tied for worst class pre-RoB

Fucking whiners, the lot of you

>>172822726
It's a special activation condition not Last Words.

>>172822771
Irasfil needs a nerf bad.
>Insane damage and board clear...OH AND HEALING LOL

>watch some random chinese stream
>blood vs dragon
>dragon plays 3 sybil on consecutive turns, zeus, 2 saha, luci and 2 irasfil
>literally a leggo per turn

fucking p2w class with retarded healing

>>172822825
thanks!

>>172822802
Go ahead, play a deck that does nothing for 8 turns while dragon ramps to lightning blast and haven drop aegis.

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holy shit i don't recall this board ever having THIS many whiners
where'd all the newfags come from

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>>172822726
>>172822787
>>172822812
Anon dragon doesnt have a countdown and also remember you are playing dragon not haven

>newish player
>500 gold
help me pick
Garuda leader, Selwyn leader or 5 ToG packs?

>>172822829
Not him but everyone called haven annoying and unfun while not being the toppest tier too.

>>172822829
First off, Shadow was t1 pre DE.
Second, even if it was bad it still wasn't fun to play against.
Third, Shadow also has the added benefit of being completely broken in t2

>>172822771
How does Israfil cost 6?

>>172822950
Vampy is the only leader worth buying.

>>172822961
Haven was never nearly as bad as Shadow was.
Elena is well deserved of being not liked

>>172822829
iirc shadow was cancer pre-de

>>172822950
if you play a lot of haven get garuda
he is a cool freedom birb

selwyn is meh, arisa is much better unless you don't like the idea to play as a girl very much i would keep her

>>172822948
If Hippo was a 3/6 he might have actually seen play.

>>172822943
You weren't here when dragon was getting bullied, or when dorothy was at her prime or when Mid sword and Elana/Seraph were a thing?

>>172823038
vampy, mordecai, forte and garuda, erasmus too

can anyone explain why Aegis still has to attack taunts?

>>172823038
latham is only one that's shit imo

>>172823043
>Haven was never nearly as bad as Shadow was.
Haven was fucking GARBAGE pre-DE. DE Shadow wasn't as bad as Standard Haven was. At least they actually had win conditions.
>>172822943
Oh fucking please, this thread has been full of whiners since it was part of /mbgg/.

>>172823154
kys

Is commander iron wrought fort feasible or its meme tier?

Basically the goal is to keep vomiting per turn until you hit walfrid for the kill

>>172822467

Both. There is too much of both. They gave everyone board flooding when it really should just be a Sword thing (and probably Otohime should be the top tier of that and nothing better should've been made).

And they gave people way too much full board wiping ability, so now it's damn near impossible for anything to stick around anyway. Games are basically turning into "Who can flood and kill before a wipe card is played, or who can recover from the wipes before their hand dries up".

>>172823154
to keep it balanced??

>>172823154
Why doesnt aegis just win the game when you play him? Why bother waiting 2 more turns to win

>>172823070
or when PtP was a thing

im more curious what the fuck will they even give haven/dragon

haven already auto beats all aggro, all control, you need meme OTK shit to even beat it, AND they have their own t9 autowin

what the fuck do you even give haven?

>this amulet clears board n gives u a full hand and clears enemy board and lets you pocket 3 themis and 3 tribunals alongside your other 9 cards


dragon ramp just forces shit like shadow in a meta where only frog and shadow aggro are the top decks

m-my name is Lou.

Its short for

Lou

>>172822817
You know, now you make me wonder if the devs are going to give us a story AI that will drop Ginger with 3 Aegis just to give the players the middle finger

>Literally run into maybe one Luna every three days

>>172823193
>>172823208
>>172823219

I dont mean that how you thought.
I meant in the wording of the card.

It is immune to everything but stat gains, so why does a minion with ward still force its attacks?

Is the Japanese text more clear on this?

>>172823203
>They gave everyone board flooding when it really should just be a Sword thing
what the hell else do you give followers to make them relevant besides the ability to be flooded with?

>>172823275
My name is Lou.

It's short for

Poo in the Lou.

>>172823275
TAKE THE POO
TO THE LOU

Anyone have a Walfrid decklist?

>>172822756
I am surprise people forget about Floral Fencer into Floral fencer into otohime x3 into sage commander during DE

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Concede for the quest please~

46989

>>172823282

I wouldn't even be pissed if they did something like that. It'd be like Leo+Guardian Sun nonsense. If we're talking AI shenanigans I wonder if they would do something with ambush followers. Is there a way to make frog even more silly?

>>172823330
Ward is a effect on the player and not on Aegis.

>>172823425
>During DE
You mean every meta before RoB?

>>172823154
Wards affect the leader, just like Durandal and why it makes Aegis deal 4 damage. ToS affects opponent followers that's why yours works with opponents while theirs doesn't.

>3 days into the expansion and people are complaining about "the meta"
/svg/ is fucking retarded.

>>172823275
Lou is a guy's name. I could see if it was short for Louise or some shit but no. It's a trap.

>>172823330
its because a minion with the ward has its OWN effect

>>172821631
Why is this style of argument so popular here? Someone complains about a deck or a metagame and you're all
>ACTUALLY EVERY OTHER DECK IS CANCER AND SKILLLESS TOO! THIS WHOLE GAME IS SKILLLESS

So why don't stop playing Shadowverse?
>ALL CARD GAMES ARE SKILLLESS

In reality there's a lot of skill to card games, and much of Shadowverse's initial hype came from its top deck being the skill-intensive PtP Forest while Hearthstone was all midrange shaman. If the game is worse than that now then people have reason to complain.

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I had to play it for a couple dozen games to truly appreciate how dumb aggro shadow is right now.

Catacomb makes the Dragon and general control matchup a joke, they can literally never clear you. Orthrus shits all over other aggro matchups. And there's the classic degenerate Howl Cerb bullshit.

>>172823425
Even in RoB we dealt with Floral Fencer into Floral Fencer into Alwidas.

>>172823510
fresh *man*

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Seeing all these complaining in this thread I think this expansion is balanced.

>>172823497
>Ranked is already not fun at all
>When things get optimized it'll just be even worse
Can't wait for this real meta to magically make this expansion fun

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>>172823510
>>172823581
Really makes you think

>>172823539
>Howl Cerb bullshit.
what

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I've a need, a need for concede.
55241

>>172823602
Is it. The powercreep is real but everything got stronger instead of just 1-2 crafts. Well except Forest.

>>172823452
Thanks Urias bro!

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Remember when you could deal with aggro by teching in angelic barrages?

>>172823653
How new?

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>people complaining about board flood now just because of Shadow when Daria was 10 times worse

>>172823663
>Sword got stronger
>Blood got stronger
Good joke.

>>172823539

and it's fun to do, it's just I think people are kind of sick of seeing it all the time, so I'm just doing other things now while hitting up dailies and nothing else.

>>172823653

Howl+evo+pupper puppets is 11 damage from hand that goes live on turn 6

>>172823728
if you don't know either you can just say so

>>172823524
You're putting words in my mouth, He's complaining about ToG being cancer when the game always had cancer. It's just now it has more cancer, but that's how it should be. Everyone should be cancer because then it's" balanced".

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>>172823656
Thanks, Bampy.

>>172823602
You realize a lot of the complaining isn't about the expansion being imbalanced. It's about the game being shit now because everything's been powercreeped so much. There's a big difference.
An imbalanced meta can be fixed via new expansions or balance patches. There's no fixing a game powercreeped this hard without rotations or sweeping nerfs/bans

>>172822610
Aegis is survivable for 3 turns even if you have no answer.

Seraph you die next turn. If you weren't here during DE you wouldn't know.

>>172823464
That makes sense.

But what about the wording of ToS? Why doesnt that affect Aegis?

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>>172820668
>I started when the game itself first dropped and I fucking hated RoB so much I quit for two months.
I started at the start of DE and I fucking hated RoB and quit for two months like you, only I'm actually having fun again.

>>172823497
Ramp dragon, Aggro/ Midrange shadow, Aegis, it's pretty much meta now. Next rising decks will be counter decks or someone with extreme case of autism figured out an even more broken deck than all of those.

>>172823775
Why does Vampy dress this way

How is the new dirt?

>>172823737
If that was the case the ladder would still be full of Daria since it was barely touched.

>>172823740
>Luminous Mage
>Roland
>Gowain
>not stronger
And Blood is going to be fine once people gravitate away from the Baphosnek meme and start exploring. Blood Moon is a good card. kys

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the way people talk about "powercreep" and "unfun" makes you think they'll only be happy when every card is just a vanilla body with stats

>>172823779
Give me an example of powercreep in this expansion other than Grimnir.

>>172823768
I'm complaining because the game has become terminal. Yes there's always been cancer, but now it's too cancerous.
As you say, every class is cancer. That means the game is never fun to play.

>>172823539
>dragon
>a joke
>unica grimnir
>salamanders
>saha/israfils
>bahamuta into grimnirs
>a joke

It's better than haven but can still wreck you. Now sword, blood and rune on the other hand...

>>172823810
>But what about the wording of ToS?
I don't know what you mean with ToS right now?

what is literally the best blood deck right now

>>172823737
>aggro where every follower becomes mini morde
Do you realize how retarded this is?
At least you could just boardwipe bro Daria into insta concede.

>>172823724
that time came again, barrage counters catacomb's skeletons

>>172823917
Test of Strenght

>Dude 1-1s are scary lmao

Come on

>>172823768
That's not how I understood your post and I'm not sure I understand your definition of "cancer", but okay.

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>>172823539
Seriously, this shit is just unfair, I've won 18 of my last 20 at AA1.

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I just got completely buttfucked by the pepe deck (the first time i've seen it), am I right in assuming this is pretty inconsistent?

t1 front lines
t2 well
t3 pepe
??
t6 lose

i was playing hector shadow but didn't draw an orthrus

>wah wah the game is cancerous
How about you fucking leave then? Nobody is forcing you to play this shit.

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19/20 on private match no concede ames
gimmie one more lads
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