/egg/ - Engineering Games General - Formerly /svgg/

>>172758589
The only hulk movie I'd watch

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Has anybody figured out how to make accurate railguns? Pic related, it's the dispersion of a railgun at 100 km. A conventional gun is like a laser and every single shot hits at this distance.

>>172759203
more gimble angle and speed

I forget, am I able to bump my own threads in /vg/?
If not, that would explain why I'm always trying to avoid being the one who makes the next general like everyone else does too

>>172741787
Seconding this, Logisim is good shit.
I've made a CPU and a cache in it, both were quite fun.

>>172726074
Put in a fuse box. Then add an inertial fuse and/or a penetration depth or time after impact fuse.

>>172730762
>Sketch thing in MS paint or on graph paper
>Build basic hull and systems, leaving room for internals
>Add internal systems, fill turret wells, determine how much energy is free for shields and PACs
>Test, revise, repeat

>>172742769
>>172742929
Nice.

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>>172758589
n-th for LEMONHULK

>>172730762 →
>>172759529
>Build a vague hull
>Think something along the lines:"Hey, this crap could need X" or "This has to do X"
>Add X to the hull
>Repeat until boredom or the vehicle looks decent enough

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>>172760036

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Don't forget or newest hulk

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>accelerational gravity works perfectly in space engineers until the floating point errors kick in and everything phases through the ship and rips it to shreds

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It's a mistake, but I set up a new space engineers server. A sick part of me wants to find out how long it'll last.

Threw in whatever mods didn't make it crash, and loaded it onto the slavcube. Expect lag, retarded pubbies, shit simspeed, and slow downloads.

No group requirement. 75.65.36.187:27016

>>172762313
>Something works perfectly in spengies until CLANG

Heh, classic

this april fool's prank was funny but could have been a lot better. /mlpol/ was hilarious but will just end up as more spam from both sides leaking to the rest of the site.

they should have done nore creatove things like merging /k/ and /o/, and all day would be tonkposting. What other ideas can people come up with?

>>172762869
/diysci/

>>172762869
>What other ideas can people come up with?
/daco/

>>172763118
>putting engineers and machinists in the same place
The fuck you trying to do?

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WHENEVER I SEE THE CORIOLIS EFFECT UNDER SPIN GRAVITY I BEGIN TO GET AN ERECTION

HELP I DON'T WANT TO BE SEXUALLY AROUSED BY AN ASPECT OF PHYSICS

>>172762647
>fucking up your own ip
steam://connect/73.65.36.187:27016

>>172765826
did you expect any less of me?

>>172704060
Is, that, Samurai Jack?
What in the everloving fuck? Did Tameem get ahold of the series?

>>172768662
>fans bitch and moan for ending for poor man's jack since 2000 or so
>genny says fuck this shit, christmas's early this year bitches
Adult Swim series with 14+ rating iirc.
Shit's on fire, yo.

New /ded/ incomign:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=835106326
This one looks cool desu

>>172744459
Good, anything that hinders that cancer of a board is good in my book. If they delete it is even better.
Could have thrown /b/ and /trash/ into the mix but eh, maybe next year.

>>172744924
Such premise reminds me of the Submachine series

>>172769579
looks shit

>>172769579
It looks like crap mechanic with slightly more content

>>>/cock/

lmao

cease your slumber

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4ever ded

>>172762869
/k/ and /o/ is too obvious, thats why they didnt do it
It has to be shit that incites shitstorms like /mlpol/ or is not a perfect match like /cock/ and /fitlit/
They should have merged a lot more shit though

>>172763518
>Literally what it was before
kek
Why did those faggots even separated in the first place

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>praticing my procastinatiion skills
>browse old from the depth pictures i found

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I finished my destroyer lads. Only a few bits and bobs here and there to clean up to make it look a little better.

I might need to add more batteries though.

>>172777383
That's a nice bote anon. How is your little laser gun floating, friend?

>>172777058
but what about /can/

animals are hella cute

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>>172778090
sadly not my ship
im just collecting pictures

>>172778468
/can/ just became kemono friends with more biology facts

>>172769579
well they know how to make a decent trailer

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>>172762869
>tfw they didn't merge /vg/ with /wg/

>>172769579
But can i put a SRB on it?

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we hulkpostan now?
also, is spengos MP still ded?

>>172779979
>>172762647

>>172780048
neat
now if only comcast got their heads out of their collective asshole

>>172780118
>asking jews to not be jewish
You're talking about a company that I'm pretty sure imposes data caps on fiber.

>>172769579
is it a game about crashing shit and literally nothing else to do?

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>>172780278
>imposes data caps on fiber.
fuel my anger

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How does /egg/ feel about civil engineering?

>>172782773
/cbg/ is dead, let them rest in peace.

>>172782773
openttd is fun for a good while and extremely comfy even (and in my opinion, especially) in multiplayer

honestly why aren't there more tycoon games with multiplayer like openttd? unless they are all facebook pay-to-advance-timers games, wouldn't surprise me

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>>172783275
I never played it but I heard Locomotion was fun.

>>172782904
OTTD isnt city building

>>172785560
I didn't pay attention to the pic, normally
>civil engineering
posters are people looking for a new home for /cbg/.

OpenTTD isn't really /egg/ material but it's a fucking fantastic game.

>>172762869
as a /mlp/ user, /pol/ user, and '07 newfag, a permanent /mlpol/ merge would be genuinely hilarious.

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>>172785893
is openttdcoop /egg/ material? they're at least as autistic as us.

>>172760036
Is there a blueprint of this legendary craft?

>>172761928
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=883249703

There is a blueprint o dat but noooone cares

>>172787550
>Any Lemonhulk
>Any plan whatsoever
They're literally ork craft.
Make module, find other ship, slap on module, paint yellow. Repeat ad nauseum.

>>172786865
You know what's genuinely hilarious? They've reached a tenuous equilibrium since noticing that all the ponyfaggotry and horse porn has, quite literally, sent all the shills and subverters running from the board. They're entering into a symbiotic relationship.

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>>172788584
>horsepussy at this very moment interfering with CIA intelligence gathering

>>172788951
CIA posters were discovered to be bronies

I might've found another /egg/ for the carton in my queue
http://store.steampowered.com/app/474890

if I made a sandboxy clone of KOHCTPYKTOP with a (much) larger grid, would you fegs play it?

>>172787059
you have bottleneck in green circuits production
p.s. station of DOOM

>>172778090
Light blocks.

>queue in rainbow six siege
>ROBOKEK has joined the loby

Which one of you fuckers is this

>>172789638
Just one guy, posted on /mlp/ too haha

>>172762869
>/r9ky/
>/polgbt/
>/3po/
>/gv/
>/dtg/
>/usp/
>/aint/

and many others.

>>172793584
>no /lgvt/

>>172794990
/v/ has gotten over its trap crisis so it wouldn't be that funny now.

On the other hand /g/ still considers /v/ to be a boogeyman source of less intelligent posters, so merging them would be "pulling a Merkel" as someone described it on /fitlit/.

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>>172789881
>RTS
>Eh-
>Units can be designed from scratch
>Oh?
>Units obey the laws of physics
>OH?

I am interested.
Does anybody have this already? If so, please consider posting how the game is in terms of controls, optimisation etc.
For the purpose of Zerg rushes, et al.

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>>172796393
>it doesn't use Supcom scale or controls

Its shit.

>>172799672
there's always something, isn't there.

when will we have a game that doesn't have that something that makes us not like it

>>172788583
There's lemonhulks, and then there's THE lemonhulk

OG NEETfleet flagship

>>172799759
Honestly it would be really nice if it didn't fall for the C&C and Starcraft meme of tiny fucking fov where you can't see shit or zoom out.

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What is a construction component in real life?
It seems to do so much, yet is only made of iron. Maybe 3D printer feedstock?

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>>172763603
Trying to start a chain reaction.

>>172802378
Perhaps x50 of each space-standard screw, bolt and nut?

>>172802378
bolts and nuts

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>>172803006
>of each
Surely, in a non-retarded future, there'd only be one of each.

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>>172803238
Oh yes my dear, because you will be using the same bolts for securing steel panels together and for mounting a comparatively tiny control panel to said panels.

>>172803238
You need different bolts and screws for different things.

Now screwDRIVERs and WRENCHes, yeah, you should only need like three of each tops.

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>>172803637
In a perfect world, that'd be a correct statement.

Unfortunate people care about "aesthetics" or "reasonable design."

Fuck you, I want twelve inch bolts through my monitor.

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>>172803637
>tap screen
>bolts shear off

see, this wouldn't be a problem if they were the kind of bolts holding this fucking ship together

>no shields
Anyone know any other active Space Engineers server?

>>172804803
Are the shields not working? Pretty sure I added them.

>>172804872
I didn't it in the 'G' list. I'll check again later.

>>172803006
>>172803142
>>172803238
>>172803637
>>172803653
>>172803750
>>172804379
I highly doubt there are screws, bolts and nuts in space engineers construction components. Everything seems to be so modular that it doesn't need screws.

>>172805398
>it is LITERALLY space legos

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>>172805771
>step on a piston
>your leg clangs in such a way to evoke eternal suffering

>>172805960
>accelerate ship to 250 m/s
>decide to pur yourself a space margarita
>unstrap from flight seat
>jetpack automatically activates with no damps
>decide to use magboots instead
>who needs gravity anyway
>jetpack off as soon as you touch the floor
>spengie gets immediately smeared all over the interior hull

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>>172806587
>>spengie gets immediately smeared all over the interior hull
That's just spengies way of being integrated into the machine spirit.

>>172762869
/no/
/yes/
/dar9k/
/light/
/abcdefggifhhrkmoprstuvvgvrwwgiicr9ks4svipcmhmlgbty3acoadvanaspbizcglckcodiyfafitgdhchisintjplitmlpmunnewsoutpopolqstscisocsptgtoytrvtvvpwsgwsrxtrashvbcobabfkz/

>>172762869
/kspegg/

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Explain this. How does construction components create light? It has to be feedstock, for a 3D printer. Similar to that 3D doodle thing.

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>>172807989
Kind of like this, but it makes pre designed objects. Then construction components are the ink.

>>172807989
>>172808139
I'm sure there are LEDs in there too, like those science kits you get for kids.

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What could the reason be for me not being able to enable allow gun barrels to spin?
It's not working on any of my guns.

>>172808229
Well that's the problem. Only resource needed for interior lights is iron. Iron for construction components and steel plates.

>>172808264
Ah I found a really weird fix for this actually. You have to temporarily put one of the doors from the decor tab on the turret structure first. Then you open the door, get on the floor, everybody walk the dinosaur.

>>172808748
Fuck you.

>>172808861
Hahahahaha. In all honesty I don't remember what the deal is with that, but it's happened to me before as well. I vaguely remember Lathrix saying something recently in a vid that spinning barrels are somewhat borked.

>>172809056
And they won't get unfucked until Nick decides to stop pussying around with his latest failure.

>>172809056
It's strange because it was working a few days ago and i don't think there's been an update?

>>172809056
>Lathrix

Wow that voice, those mannerisms. I bet you anything he's a cuck

>>172810064
Simply saving the vessel and restarting the designer might fix it. railgun magnets fuck up all the time

>>172810064
Yeah mate I didn't get them working for a while when it happened to me. Don't remember if it was something with gauge or barrel amount or length or what the fuck.

>>172810116
Hahaha he probably is a cuck. He has a legit speech impediment though. I like him anyway because he walks a good line between Autistic and Entertaining.

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>>172777601
>PAC, 600 blocks
>Spinny Radar Boom, 20 blocks
>180x3000mm railgun, 1200 blocks
>More PAC, 1000 blocks

Looking like a purple box
Priceless.

>>172810116
His accent makes me want to claw my fucking eyes out but i still watch him.

Next April Fools all generals merge with each other like the boards did today

/egg// merges with /kspg/

How crazy will that be?

>>172814327
don't mention them you fool

>>172814327
I really liked the "nobody is anonymous" last year
fuck, that was a whole year ago

>>172814327
>/vg/ merges with /trash/
>/kspg/ is allowed in /vg/ for one day

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>>172814852
>entire board is banned from existence
>all witnesses range banned
>no survivors

>>172814937
>except for the /kspg/ posters that ban evade anyway

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>>172814327
>/kspg/
Shit shit shit shit shit.
Activate condition brown.
Containment protocols engaged.

>>172815439
Also kniggers.

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>he fell for the autopilot meme

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>april second
>instead of going back to normal they merge MORE boards

BRACE FOR IMPACT LADS, WE MAY BE EXPERIENCING BOARD CLANG SOON

>>172808583
Maybe they're really REALLY wasteful incandescent lights?

i want to ente in this enginering world, indicate one game(preferencially space) for me to begin with

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We are electric now.

>>172820761
YOU AM PLAY GOD

>>172820574
Kerbal Space Program is the recommended starting point

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>>172816401
>suddenly remembering the rumors about nipmoot wanting to jew the site by cutting down on boards
This was his plan all along wasn't it? He waited until we forgot, and now he's gone and done it by disguising it as a prank.

>>172822380
Except the merges are dissolving again.
/mlpol/ would have been great if it stayed.

>>172822027
i cant play that, it's shit, to infantilized, like spore

>>172808264
You need to change the Max fire rate slider. The bigger the number, the faster the barrels spin

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Hey goys what's better than an argentavis? That's correct, 2 of them.

tfw too impatient to wait for tenks in REM

https://youtu.be/7t_ZWAa9brA

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>>172809056
>lathrix
even if he`s a neckbeard autist
i love him

this is actually a bonus for me

Page 10 bump
egg confirmed ded

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>>172830643
>egg confirmed ded
and nothing of value was lost

>>172830643
i'll confirm you dead *unzips pants*

>>172789881
>>172796393
>RTS where you build units from scratch

Had this very idea but never could implement it.
Let's hope we can personal army their forum to get them to include Supcom scale/controls

>>172825382
Thanks pham!

>>172828364
At least he has half a clue about what he's doing, unlike most let's players that always seem to be competing against DSP for "most incompetent dumbfuck in the vidya scene"

>>172815956
Isn't that a pirate drone carrier? there's an infinite number of those, no big loss.

http://web.archive.org/web/20170401215001/http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4371770/Vile-video-shows-knife-expert-penetrating-stab-vest.html

Fucking old media harassing a peaceful German engineer doing research.

>>172800139
THE lemonhulk predates blueprints, and was lost to the beast that lives outside the map boundary.

>>172837328
Actually I lost it because the main save file decided to overwrite a copy of the main file and the main file too.

Gas marek

>>172789881
Fuck it, i'm buying it. I'll be posting about the game and whether or not you guys should waste your money on it in x hours.

Here's hoping for a decent /egg/ RTS.

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rate my chopper

>>172758589
>The general that quite literally cannot be named. The Mexican scam artist one. With the shitposters. Fuck off.
Where did it go? I miss it...

>>172838876
In the >>>/trash/ where it belongs.

>>172838876
This isn't that game's general. I don't go into Overwatch general asking about world of tanks. Fuck off unless you want to talk about /egg/ games

>>172838068
From looking at the reviews, the negative ones were talking mainly about the build system being tedious rather than the RTS part itself, which was interesting.
See what they mean by 'slow', I think they might mean you have to undo everything if you make a mistake early rather than being able to select a particular piece.

>>172839785
That must have been fixed recently, you can select an individual piece and delete it. The build interface is a little clunky though since it revolves around snap points rather than voxel or avorion style blocks, meaning you can only build so many things.

Watching the tank you just made roll out of the factory is super satisfying though even if it does a wheelie right afterwards and gets stuck on its ass

>>172762313
> Unironically using floating point calculations
> In the 64 bit world where all points in our literal solar system can be tracked down to the millimeter

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>>172840373
this seems to be a recurring theme for my creations

Is chode fun

>>172841495
same way doing your engineering homework was fun

so pretty fun yeah

>>172841495
yes

>>172840661
you realize that x64 doesn't change how we store numbers in memory?
are you aware that type double is still floating point, that the "to the millimeter" is still floating point arythmetics?
that said, anyone using single precision on pcs is insane, good thing most compilers change it to longer types immediately

so, /egg/, i've check the serb...
my conclusion: fuck you egg
1: more resource types than times i wipe my arse daily
2: doggos and due to keencoding they stay live when ded so you can loot them, but turrets keep wasting ammo
3: more mods than i can count to
simspeed was 1 now, but i was alone on serb and it'll soon change
fuck you /egg/
I love it

>>172842447
except double precision is a shitty format for anything actually requiring accuracy to the higher precisions, like in said case

>>172782773
/cbg/ goes in >>>/vg/civ4xg/

>>172842447
>doggos stay live when ded
Just like /egg/

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>log into spengies serb
>go into menu
>see fellow engineer floating by
>close menu
>it's just a corpse
>i'm the only one on the serb
f-fug

>>172845176
>it's just a corpse
aren't we all?

>>172847380
not yet

>>172840661
Well, what would you use instead?

>>172848837
gnu muh big numbers lib
use 2 elonable ints for things before and after the period
make all calculations at least double because of that

of course division would have to be manual (divide with rest, divide /wr again, but this time using rest * 10 and add to prev result, repeat untill desired accuracy is met)

p.s. the lib has floats, do not ever use them, they are clangified

>>172849146
Sure, that'd deal with the imprecision.
But the big numbers operations are much slower than int or float operations. You'd get a significant performance hit in a game that already runs like a dumpster fire.

>>172849626
not talking about the game, just pointing an alternative to floats
i wrote earlier: just don't be a moron with floats, use doubles or long doubles and it'll be fine enough

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>>172789881
I just want an RTS, that allows me to desing my own land units,including tanks, APCs, SPGs and artillery and where you can tweak things like power train, armour design, armament and crew positioning. Then you have to make it affordable so you don't end up like with the Tiger II:s
The obvious answer is the FtD, but I don't like the idea of the shields, which limits my gameplay to designing my own tanks and testing their armor by shooting at them with other tanks that I built.
I also suck at building good fighting tanks

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>>172854101
>I also suck at building good fighting tanks
I just try to make them look half decent

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What /egg/ game allows me to build an O´Neil Cylinder

Anyone know when the ground vehicles update will be out for REM, i like the idea of rem but i dont really wanna play the space part of it.

>>172842641
>except double precision is a shitty format for anything actually requiring accuracy to the higher precisions, like in said case
Explain further

>>172837634
I was under the impression that it was flung into the void by a random antislav.
Was that a different iteration of the hulk?

>>172848837
Integers of planck units.

>>172859038
You'll run into computational gridlock as processing even basic addition for such absurd numbers will take inane amounts of time.

>>172858724
The double precision doesn't mean precision in normal terms, but in 'resolution'. Its non-exponent value is literally double the size of a normal floating point integer, or close to that.
Problem is, it's a binary uneven number. 53 explicit bits of precision. That means you'll have to do quite a lot of rounding once you use up all those bits, even more than single precision (which is 24 bits, and therefore much nicer to round with) and rounding in binary can be a bit... chaotic. It has a higher resolution, and a larger exponent, but it is inherently less stable than single precision (and slower to compute with on specific hardware). In fact, you HAVE to round if you're dividing anything by three, and that introduces a lot of little errors.
Therefore, any computations where accuracy is more important shouldn't be done with floating point values. It's why all the banking systems in the entire world use a fixed point value which cannot entirely omit currency at higher exponents. If you used floating point arithmetic while manipulating with multiple billion values, you'd find that you're just constantly leaking money into the silicon heaven.

best egg games for begginer

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>>172856079
Could just ask me, anon. "Soon," as ever. More soon than it was before. The first GREM update is looking to just contain exactly that, the ground, wheels, gravity and a little test area to romp around in. Functional weaponry beyond a particle effect and recoil, spawning in AI vehicles, closed multiplayer testing, the drive train and tracks will be in the next update after.

>>172860080
*/egg/
Factorio is a good place to start for autism, as is spengies for getting used to voxel based spess games as well as masochism.

>>172855867
Well technically Spengies does, but you'd need something like Deep Thought to make it run properly at a useful size.

>>172860080
KSP

>>172860419
fuck off and die

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>>172860359
Actually

>>172860941
Well yeah, but a cylinder for colony life is gonna need to be a damn sight bigger than that, and you said yourself you started getting lag problems (as expected) when you tried something in particular inside it

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>>172807989

>Log into Spengies serb.
>All stuff gone.
Welp, back to single player.

>>172863205
w-what did you have?

>>172863205
I think the other guy moved everything, maybe check with him.

>>172859726
Still not quite getting it.
If it's not too much hassle, could you please provide numerical examples? If also broken down into the most basic "elements" of explanation (ie: step-by-step explaining for retards) would be much appreciated.

>>172863205
>not checking with your faction what might have happened
>not asking the admin/host what might have happened

>>172842447
>are you aware that type double is still floating point, that the "to the millimeter" is still floating point arythmetics?
I think his argument is that we should just be done with it and use a high-precision fixed-point arithmetic (say, 128-bit, with 95 before and 32 after, and 1 sign bit), and accept fixed errors rather than the less predictable error found in floating point arithmetic. Which, to be fair, still leaves us with multiplied-error problems when you carry figures on in your calculations.

>>172841495
Yeah if you like rocket stuff you'll enjoy the accuracy of it. If not, it's fun to learn as a sort of puzzle/strategy game.

>>172860243
I only just realised i can still build a basic layout for weps and bodys for the cars in the current version of REM, boy am i retarded

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>>172810308
It's all about form over function, lad. Or in my case, form getting fucked by function, and my inabilty to design my way out of a wet paper bag.

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>>172838068
>>172789881

So my first impressions of the game is: Holy shit, it's actually a remarkably competent RTS for being yet another early access meme. It runs smooth as fuck and there are no obvious issues with path finding (although you'll need to make fairly stable units to not have them flip every second), and everything you'd expect from an RTS in terms of functionality is there from attackmove to selection & grouping to . There's even a "ram" button that makes your units accelerate towards a target, burning lots of energy but attaining sanic speeds

My issues so far is:
>claustrophobic as fuck, everything zoomed the fuck in, units have basically melee range if you don't use railguns or rockets
>making custom shaped modules to put in the editor is a convoluted process
>not that much variety in things your units can do (right now there's collector, repair and resupply modules, the rest is all guns)
>rockets are ridiculously overpowered, no point in putting any other weapon on your units even though they only come with 6 ammo
>transport fliers go at sanic speeds no matter how big the thing you picked up is, and there is no way to have one flier pick up multiple units supcom style
>you don't actually construct anything, all buildings are slots which you capture and then turn into something else

Picture related is the military i'm running with so far. Top to bottom, left to right:
Transport flier + warhead (you can drop the warhead to oneshot upgrade buildings, or transport the big tenks around at sanic speed)
Siege tenk (with stabilizers to counteract the recoil of the 3 railguns)
Light tenk
Heavy tenk
Really heavy tenk

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>>172868793
Closeup of the transport helicopter in the back.

>>172870198
Absolutely neato

>>172870370
Cheers lad. I'm really happy with it, it's the only one which has come out more or less how I imagined it. Except that 4x2m RTGs isn't enough to keep this thing in the air, so it's also burning .5 material per second.

>>172870139
Now i hope for /egg/ to flood the forums asking for bigger FoV and more range.

>>172871658
I would say NYPA, but we've had a fair measure of success in Legioning things to our advantage so far...

>>172871658
No way to piratefag it though so no way to tell if it's good

>>172871953
/egg/ games tend to be pretty niche, so even a few of us seem to achieve vocal minority status.

eyy boys i wanna get into FtD and i have no idea what im doing.
anybody got some good guides or vids to watch or read so that i can learn?

>>172873635
Honestly the interactive tutorials and story missions on the game taught me nearly everything I needed. The only thing I've really looked up help for is making advanced cannons. So, idk.

>>172873635

There's like 40 odd tutorials in the game. They would probably be a good starting point.

>>172870139
I'm tired as hell today, but I'll get it tomorrow and use my 2 hour 'refund demo' to see if I like it.
imma make all my shit bright pink and cyan

>>172874369
fite me

tomorrow

>>172875890
belters go and stay go

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>>172875659
>The black is too big - don't want to be alone in the night

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help I'm not a physician

>>172876584
Just push sliders until all the wiggly bits look a little better

>>172876584
Increase kP. Gain till it doesn't tip over anymore
Then tweak Derivative Time till you are wobbling just a little bit
Then play with integral time

>>172876584
set Integral time to the max (it disables it)
then set derivative time to 0 and kp gain to 0.001

And then you start increasing kp gain until the green line overlaps the red one.
Once it overlaps, you sligthly adjust derivative time until the blue line is as flat as possible

>>172876201
>the BBC (big belta cock)

>>172877275
BELTED.COM

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So how are we going to engineer tanks?

>>172880478
We'll find out when REMdev adds tanks when

>>172880658
+24 hours

tank
tenk
tink
tonk
tunk
tynk

>>172880765
REMdev delays tanks by ANOTHER day when????

>>172880932
twnk

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>>172881018
now

REM RC Hover Car Rail Racing with power-ups minigame WHEN

>>172880765
knat

now you have to do them a day sooner :^)

NƎHM SʞN∀┴

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Trains when?

>>172881989
Train jousting would be so much fun

REM boats when

rem subs when

REM EVA when

REM plens when

REM nanobots when

REM Fractal Supercarriers when

>>172876740
>>172876926
>>172876982
Much appreciated fampais

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Argentavis is actually a bury nice spess bote, great for slingshotting asteroids

REM when

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>>172885093
Okay, taking >>172876982's advice, the boat starts porpoising instead of flipping at about .225 gain, but then adding even a little bit of derivative makes it start flipping again. Turning the gain up or down doesn't help.

>>172886568
Proportional (gain) is "how hard should i fire the stabilization thrusters based on how far off i am from my ideal position?"
In layman terms, the more you are capsizing, the more the stabilization devices (likely thrusters) will fire
Derivative is "how hard should i fire the thrusters based on how fast my inclination is changing?"
In layman terms, the FASTER you are capsizing (or balancing), the stronger you will fire the thrusters. Since it "predicts" how strong to fire based on how fast the inclination is changing, it becomes quite twitchy
Integral is kinda the opposite of derivative (heck, mathematically it IS the inverse of a derivative) so it tends to smooth over the twitching.

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>>172884096
>Fractal
We talking full acid trip, or do you mean modular?

>>172888130
Supercarrier that launches carriers that launch ships that launch fighters that launch drones that launch missiles.

>>172888323
And the missiles have a payload of nanomachines that eat metal

>>172887889
Are you sure about derivative? I thought that term was basically "friction" to make the system less twitchy.

>>172888851
And the nanomachines are a grey goo that builds more supercarriers.

>>172890045
Of course

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSza2XH28hs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2f7kEeSXYg

>>172889821
The way i remember it is that the derivative part looks at the current derivative of the "input" curve (the tipping of the vessel in this case) and bases it's output upon it.
In other words, the faster the input is changing, the higher the derivative, the higher the output.

The integral instead looks at the area underneath the curve (or above the curve if it's below the x axis) and bases it's input upon it.
A high area, whether is due to a narrow and high spike or a wide and shallow "hill" will cause a stronger output from the integral part of the PID, thus dampening oscillations.

>>172890856
>What's Uranium P1?

I'm an idiot

>>172889821
>>172891345
Found some vids, hope they help
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHikGlMlAxE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJbEPlWNJYs

>>172875659
>>172875890
what song

>>172863495
not that anon, but i'll try
long long story short: 64 bits encode a number
if you were to write them down from left to right, the leftmost is 63rd byte, rightmost is 0th byte for purpose of this post.
bit 63 is sign, no messing about, like in U2 (the 2's compliment), 0 = + sign, 1 = - sign
then we have the exponent that lies on 11 bits from 62 to 52, we'll come back to it later, important to note is: if exponent is 0 or 0x7ff then it's a special thingy
now for the other 52 bits (from 51 to 0), those are called the mantissa (or fraction as morons on wikipedia call it), it's a base number that is later transformed.
to decypher a number in a double you have to take mantissa and put it behind the period, then add 1.
now we have 1.whatevernumberwasinmantissa
then you put that to power exponent-1023(to allow negative exponents) and lastly add + or - in front depending on the sign bit.
as you can see, there is a clear gap for numbers <0, 1), that's why there are special exponents that are very special. if exponent is full of ones (11111111111, as before but hexd. there) then you are dealing with NaN or infinities
but it the exp. is equal to 0, then it's a signed zero or a value below 1, if the latter, you just don't add 1 to the mantissa

>>172890856
holy shit, the narration is so bad in this, I'm glad I only watched it translated to a clearly superior polish

>>172896834
>he doesn't enjoy the original how it's made english narrators voice
Faggot

>>172863160
jesus

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>>172896834
>dissing based smooth voice how it's made dude

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>>172896834
>holy shit, the narration is so bad in this,
>polish is better

>>172896834
Continuing on,
The only bits that matter are the 52 that hold the fraction.
The exponent is meaningless for holding location or inventory data because if it's 10^-6 you don't give a fuck and if it's 10^9 you've fucked up.

A 64 bit int gives 64 bits of useful information and none of the exponent that doesn't matter. The actual range of values it can manage is so absurd that you will never reach it by mortal means outside of a cookie clicker game.

hey guys, just checkin real quick.

Where's the missile?

>>172899063
>not knowing where the missile is at all times

>>172899063
I don't know but it sure does

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>>172899063
Well I know where it was and where it wasn't and where it wasn't it now is.

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>>172899063
Do you know where it isn't?

>>172899063
We can figure it out by finding out where it isn't.

>>172900682
well
I don't have it, anon. Have we lost another missile?

>>172900741
Well, we know where it isn't
If we know where it isnt, and know where it should be, we can find where it is

>>172901554
>If we know where it isn't, and know where it should be
Anon, we have neither. Right now, we have speculative data on where it might not be and anecdotal evidence of where it isn't, rather than universal evidence of where it can't be.


what I want to know is where's the caveman

>>172901848
[Being the sheriff intensifies]

I posted about chode on an actual autism forum and nobody responded, I guess we're more autistic than autism itself.

>>172903103
>>172903103
>on an actual autism forum

Do you frequent actual autism forums? Are you actually autistic? Are we all? Am I autistic now?

>>172903503
I have aspergers, I don't frequent any autism forums though. I have 10 posts on that account and I've had it since 2015. If you play these games you're probably autistic.

>>172903503
Yes, you wouldn't be in /egg/ if you weren't autistic.

Well I'm fuckin autistic now

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>>172903923
welcome to the club

who neuro/egg/typical here?

I tried From the Depths, but I just can't do 24hrs of tutorials. I'm forgetting the early videos and it is just too steep of a learning curve.

>>172904473
Maybe CHODE is for you....

>>172904473
You don't need to memorize everything, just learn to build an engine, a gun, and AI, then strap it onto a hull with propellers and rudders. Then start improving those until you need a better hull to mount them on, eventually you'll have your first decent ship that can be upgraded with more complex systems like lasers and missiles.

>>172904473
>tutorials
>ftd

Literally just build what seems to work and ask about turrets, engines and AI setup here. The tutorials were made by an idiot that got fed up with people asking how to do 'x', so he took the route of hardest hand holding.

>>172904623
>>172904638
I tried just building but nothing lines up right and I don't understand it at all. I give up. I'll let it sit in the Steam library.

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>>172904914
>giving up THIS easily
This has to be bait.

>>172904914
I refunded it after I first got it, then bought it again and put some actual effort into it. Ended up getting 310 hours and making some pretty nice ships.

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I just made an 11 block escape pod (small ship).
It has everything needed to establish a base and can land on a planet.
Or you can stay in space, building solar panels on it.
Downfall is no medbay or medical parts.

Also thrust is only one direction.
Hard to land on a planet, but pretty cool once you get the hang of it.

>>172906081
All small blocks:
>cockpit
>battery
>oxygen generator
>vent
>(2) ion thrusters
>(2) atmospheric thrusters
>gyroscope
>ore detector
>light armor block

Originally I tried with just one ion and atmospheric, but it crashed when loaded with cargo.

>>172906350
If you're dealing with planets, getting autistic with numbers might help you a bit. Figure out how much cargo, in kg, you're going to want to move, and then how quickly you want that cargo to accelerate, then figure out how much thrust that will take. You'll want to adjust your numbers/build as you add mass and power requirements.

Trying to deal with planets I learned that you need a lot more thrust than you think you do.

http://www.spaceengineerswiki.com/Thruster
http://www.spaceengineerswiki.com/Material
http://www.spaceengineerswiki.com/Components

>>172906829
>>172906350
Yeah, I don't run the numbers much.

I understand if I would have ran with low ice, knock out the vent block, and ore detector, you may be able to land on a planet with only one ion and one thruster. With a 6 block ship.

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Okay time to test the 6 block escape ship. Same cargo as above, with 1000 less ice.

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BRAAAAAP

>>172907663
>>172907663
If I'm running my numbers right, you're trying to move about 20,000 kg of cargo
you want about 200,000N of thrust to be able to hover that on planet, in a 1x inventory game.

That's 3 or 4 small atmos just for cargo mass, not accounting for the rest of the ship. 5 small atmos should land you.

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>>172907663
It landed!

Longer to stop, though. If you were an inexperienced pilot (with this pod) you would be kill. Also used a little ice breathing on the way down.

One way thrust is hard landing. You have point the ship bottom the direction you want to stop/slow.

>>172908632
Yeah, you are off. It was only 16,400 cargo for the 11 block ship in this pic:
>>172906081

And now 15,300 cargo for the one with less ice.

I have a bigass submarine in ftd made out of double plated metal and i have all the air pumps turned off but still for some reason it refuses to sink.
What's up with that?

>>172909091
Turn off god man or unplug the game genie.

>>172909054
I'm assuming you're in either a x3 or a x10 inventory game, because you would still need 2 small atmos in a x1

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Minor change to the spengies serb, it'll reboot at 10:00 and 19:00 UTC. Or at least, it should.

>>172908759
You could use one thruster and add 2 wings and just glide.

>>172909292
That's a great point. I forgot about inventory size problems. Still I'm not really worried, because the escape pod is only really good for private stuff, not multiplayer.

>>172909437
Or a parachute, considering they are coming soon.

Do hydrofoils have to be on the outside of a ship or do they just need to be in a compartment with no air pump?

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>>172909593
This was in the last developers video.

>>172909757
I believe they can be in a compartment

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>>172909270
I even removed all the hydrofoils and air pumps and it still doesn't sink.

>>172911828
Is the water too shallow?

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>>172911975
No there's plenty of room under it.
I finally made it sink with a massive block of lead though.
Still don't understand why it's so buoyant.

>>172913723
hol up
>alloy has a buoyancy of +32.6

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>Hi (Mark here, RC Game Director),

>Since we started Robocraft players have often asked about blue-prints. The main thing is that when you build a Robot it subtracts the blocks in that Robot from your inventory, which prevents you being able to build other Robots with the same blocks – we call that the ‘cube sink’.

>For ages we at Freejam have wondered if that was an error to have a ‘cube sink’ as it prevents a lot of things that would be possible if your Robots worked more like ‘blue prints’ instead. By ‘blue-prints’ I mean, once you have a ‘4 x Chain Shredders’ (for example) you can use them in as many Robots as you like.

>What if it worked like blue-prints instead of a cube-sink? Would you prefer it?

>Benefits:
>You could build as many Robots as you want with 4 x Chain Shredders, as long as you had at least 4 x Chain Shredders in your inventory
>You could have a ‘duplicate’ Robot button, to copy a Robot to a new bay so you can tweak it
>You could have multiple copies of the same Robot with different loadout setups, or different colour schemes
>You could even filter on all the Robots in the CRF that you could have based on your inventory, all those Robots would be fully downloadable, playable, and editable – i.e. giving you 100,000’s of Robots to play with if you where an end game player with a full inventory

>It could cause a few issues:
>Some players with massive inventories now could get really angry as they had worked damn hard to get what they had to acquire 100’s of Chain Shredders – how could we ensure that they were kept happy?
>Some players earn money by selling CRF creations, we could perhaps change that so they earn Robits when players ‘Get’ and ‘Play’ with their Robots instead to ensure nobody loses out
>New players would get many Robots much quicker, we would perhaps have to look at a way of slowing the progression down a bit to keep it the same play time as now – how would you do that?

>want to make a ship in spengies
>start placing blocks
>immediately get bored

What's wrong with me /egg/? Why can't I have fun with these games anymore.

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>>172916371
I'm not sure what to caption this

>>172914937
Don't force it. I take occasional breaks from /egg/ games to avoid burnout. Random tinkering is unlikely to hold your interest, wait until you have a good idea of what you want to do before diving back in.

>>172896834
>computer architecture anon
comfy

>>172917649
>when the thread isn't off topic enough

>>172914339
>New players would get many Robots much quicker, we would perhaps have to look at a way of slowing the progression down a bit to keep it the same play time as now – how would you do that?

Its already pretty fucking glacial, people just use one robot instead of experimenting with many.

>>172914937
Stop building to build a big empty ship. Build to fight and destroy people in multiplayer or challenge yourself by starting in a 6 block escape ship.

>>172899063
Its in the shed

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>>172919436
>multiplayer

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Infinite purgatory

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>>172920382

>>172917649
grilled

>>172914339
>our player base is dying
>better ramp up the grind
Clearly Korean Notch at work here.

>>172913723
It's floating because angled blocks are extra buoyant. They displace a full blocks worth of water but only weigh half as much

>>172913723
>Still don't understand why it's so buoyant.
Replace alloy for metal, and you'll sink. Use heavy armor to sink even faster

How would i stop my boat from bobing back and forward in FtD when i sail it?

>>172929226
hydrofoils, place your engines in line with the center of mass, etc.

>>172929404
Oh i had my engine at the back, it sorta seemed like the safest place to put it

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Did some more work on the battlebote but the little turrets are being shit. If they explode, they don't break through their containment armor but they still blow up the adjacent turrets somehow and chain reaction the whole lot.

>>172929464
They probably meant propellers not engines

>>172929464
by engine i mean propeller, you can have your engines wherever you want, but if you have your props lower than your center of mass, your boat will end up getting out of the water, and if your props are higher, your vehicle will keep smashing it's nose against the water

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Given the choice between reducing the number of guns to space them out a bit, or extending the hull to space them out a bit, it's not really a choice is it?

>>172934212
Reduce the number of guns, and add torpedo launcher turrets on the bottom of the hull, to compensate

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>>172934451
>Reduce the number of guns

You're high. It's already been extended in that pic anyway.

>>172935182
>You're high
I haven't slept in whole night because i have an exam in 4 hours

Is there even OTTD general on this site?

on side note, how to git gud?

>>172936817
>how to git gud?

Instead of doing opportunistic, isolated jobs concentrate your efforts on one city or a handful of cities close together and making them grow.

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>>172935718
I did that when I was in uni. Good times.
Failed though. Probably would have done better if I'd crammed THEN slept instead of cramming, doing the exams then sleeping.