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>[THIS GENERAL HAS SPOILERS]

*BLOCKS YOUR PATH* EDITION

If you have any suggestions or links you think would be useful, then respond with it to the OP and help build up the archives.

>[Official NieR:Automata page]
https://www.platinumgames.com/games/nier-automata/

>[DRAKENGARD/NIER COLLECTION ARCHIVE] - World Guides, Novellas, Lore, etc.
https://mega.nz/#F!1U9FABJA!mMSLFtaWnMsjC5kNrzsgHA

>[PC Troubleshooting]
http://pastebin.com/qEZD3VLJ

>[NieR:Automata Unit Data & Fishing Encyclopedia] - Untranslated, use Chrome
http://wiki3.h1g.jp/nierautomata/index.php?%E5%80%8B%E4%BD%93%E3%83%87%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BF

>[/ndg/ Downloads Pastebin] - Ripped OST, Lewds, Steam Reskin
http://pastebin.com/YWG8irCu

Previous thread: >>172135319
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Repost cause mad


>i can not continue with this heartbroke
>A2, please
God ucking dammit, he deserved a happy ending
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Post your message niggas
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>>172171140
FUCKING FISHING RNG
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>A2 will never tell you to U-U-URUSAI...!!!

I don't want to go on living anymore. I'll never find a girl like her.
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>>172171352

did you buy the childrens cores off him? they're worth 50k :^)
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>>172171140
How is that future going /ndg/?
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>you will never EVER beat up taro for what he did to pascal

legit made me mad desu
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2B IS LEWD AS FUCK!
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>>172171438
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>>172171438
[Wait, tomorrow is MONDAY?!] [But still,] [I want to help you.]
That first one was just too perfect to not pick.
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>>172171454
Hello, I am that girl(male).
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>>172171602
>Still no translation edit.
Fuck, may'be I'll do it
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I want to turn 2B into a catgirl and abandon her on the streets
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>>172171542
>HE KIDS WHAT'S GOING ON IN THIS ROO-
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>>172171438
Don't have a cap, but it was "I like 2B! Why? Because push through in one go!"
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>>172171520
BECOMING AS


GODS
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The most depressing part of Automata is knowing that A2 is not and never will be real.
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>>172171661
DO IT! Thank you.
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Is there anything in particular I need to do before stealing Emil's mask? I don't guess I really need any of his wares that I can't get elsewhere do I?
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>>172171140
Reminder to pet your pod on PC by shaking mouse.

https://youtu.be/PQM9SI4Aomc
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>>172171438
[You are surrounded by enemies.][And yet, still,][I'm in your corner.] [USA]
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>>172171715
>2B will NEVER help you ascend to godhood.
Is there a point to life fellow Anons?
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>>172171854
Buy the weapons he sells first.
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Should I get Nier Automata? Looks kinda fun, and the protagonist is really cute.
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There's simply not enough fanart of Toobie in a t-shirt.
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>>172171947
He sells weapons? All I've seen him selling is chips.
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If Emil is immortal, then how the fuck he died at the end of Emil's determination quest?

Why he said "oh there you are"? did he just remember shit from the past or his friends are "okay" in the afterlife?
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>go to bed
>wake up
>check the /ndg/ I left open
>a 6'6 girl was here while I was gone and will now never come back

why did you do this to me /ndg/
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>>172171602

I need more from this artist, and sauce.
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>>172171958
No, you sound like a normie. Fuck off.
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>>172171969
You've got to get him infront of the resistance camp.
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>>172171915
>2B will never sit on you and slowly choke you to death with her gentle soft hands

you're right there is no point in living
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>>172171854
The only way to stop him from showing up as shop is to upgrade every single weapon to max level at which point you most likely don't need his shop anymore anyway.
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>>172171958
>the protagonist is really cute

Yes _he is
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>>172172190
Oh even after you fight him he still sells shit? Also what's this about him selling weapons?
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>>172171996
He sells two weapons, yes. Not sure why people say to get them before visiting his home though, he is still showing up just fine for me. Maybe he stops showing up after you fight the final superboss, but to even get to that you need to max out every weapon first so
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>>172172023
You read all the weapon stories, right?
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>>172172136
T-thanks bro
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>>172172060
>anons not living on an island where the Sin of Shame never hit so people have zero issues with being naked together
>anons not living on an island with not much to do outside fucking or chess
>anons not living on an island where everyone even the women can often hit 6'3"+
Sad life tbqh.
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>>172172335
Which weapons?
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WHO IS SHE
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>>172172352
Yeah, he's not immune to death but where did he go?
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>>172172484
that's me
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>die in a 2D area
>body spawns in the 3D background
>can't touch it

so all my chips are just gone now?
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>>172172274
He sells weapons and rare upgrade material when you shoot while's he's near the resistance camp.

>>172172404
A couple of combat bracers.

>>172172484
https://www.instagram.com/_ishmael_1122_/?hl=en
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>>172172381
>even the women can often hit 6'3"+
6'7" lanklet here, tall women are an abomination.
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>>172172404
It's two fist weapons, Angel's Folly and either T40 or T3 Fists, forget which.
They show up on the shop together with the rare materials he sometimes sells, you know he will have them when the music he's playing is way sped up and he is driving much faster than normal
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>>172172484
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>>172172179
>mfw during this scene
It was a long time since game gave me uncomfortable hardon.
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>>172172552
BRAVO PLATINUM
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>>172172552
>Dying in the shitty castle

You deserve to lose everything, nobody can be this shit at the game.
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>>172172381
>living in a city where every woman is a short, fat negress
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>>172172552
>Dying in the castle.
Honestly you deserved it senpai.
I know that feel though, there's a stage later in the game with 1 hit KO environmental hazards, I won't spoil it for you but you'll probably know them when they show up, don't engage the enemies there, just sprint through that shit and get a save point between you and them.
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How do I get to those ??? markers that look to be deep underground?
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>>172172595
>>172172625
Huh weird, I just shot him near the resistance camp about an hour ago and he was selling +6 chips which was cool, but no weapons.

So you guys are totally positive he still shows up after killing him in the boss fight?
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>>172172552
Load back to a orevius save
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>watching streamers play
>"thanks for the sub!" in the middle of an important cut scene

Why do I long for the reactions of people I don't know to this story?
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>>172172770
Factory? They are save points that you will open further on.
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>>172172484
IT'S ME, AUSTIN
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>>172172770
Keep playing. They are just access points.
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We need more A2, her quests were so cute.
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>>172172621
Eh. It depends honestly. Sometimes you need someone of a certain height otherwise angles are all wrong from hand holding to sex.
Its cruel as asian women are top-tier but i'm a full third if not more taller than them usually. Justs makes shit awkward. Even the doors over there are too small.
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>>172172836
Do you remember when it was asking you if you REALLY wanted to delete your save in order to save a stranger, who could very well be someone you'd fucking hate?

These kinds of people are the ones the pod was talking about there.
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>>172172810
I bought the weapons before fighting him so dunno if for some weird reason they can't show up anymore after you defeat him. The shop definitely still shows up after the fight near his house
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>>172172770
you talking about the factory ones? those are save points, you should naturally find all save points as you progress through the game
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>>172172770
Plot related till the last strect of route A
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>>172172836
>Convince two roommates to go through the game after they watched me play for a bit
>Get to watch their reactions to the story
It really is a good feeling.
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Daily reminder
Simone did nothing wrong

-Council of Mankind
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>>172172873
A2 is so cute.
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>>172172810
I think that's a glitch. At one point he would only sell me chips until after I restarted the game.

>>172172770
Do you mean the one in the forest? If so, there's a path down.
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>>172172727
Run here. We only ask you be mildly smart for citizenship last i checked.
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>>172172987
Peoples 1st Taro ride, is like convoncing friends to watch Evangelion for the 1st time
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>>172172856
>>172172870
>>172172959
>>172172964

It's actually my second playthrough for my 100% run, but I completely forgot that save points showed up on the map as ???. Thanks y'all.
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>>172172873
>it's an A2 begrudgingly helps the machines and when they thank her she pretends like it was no big deal and tries to act like she didn't go out of her way at all episode
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>>172171438
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>>172172987
>trying to get friend who is notorious for not finishing things to play it

It's like herding cats, the fucker has been on the final episode of PSG since 2010 and still hasn't watched it.
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So how do I look up 2B's skirt for that trophy. Use a ladder I guess? Playing 9S right now so I can't control her at the moment. Silly nips, man.
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Reminder that the androids have a powerful instinct to absolutely love human beings to an unhealthy extent. If you ever were to meet your nier waifu/husband they would be scarily yandere for you.

The love feeling they feel during combat is their intensive love for humans, because that's what keeps them fighting.
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>>172172836
That's why LP's are better than streams. Except for Liam's stream of Automata. That ending man.
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>>172172725
>>172172735
I'm on one hit ko mode and I didn't realize that mirage has a second after the attack where you can't move but are no longer invincible, I got frame trapped.

Cut the meme response, there's really no excuse for something like this unless this game didn't get playtested at all.
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>>172173018
>Seducing impressionable school-girl machines into debauchery
>Passing sloppy seconds off to Sartre

Thanks, Moon-server. Inspirational as always.
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>>172172567
>>172172814
>Makes me wonder if androids can taste and digest food
I think one of the Resistance members said that cooked boar was popular, and Popola did have a type of drink she prefers.

So I imagine that none of them need to eat, but they're still able to enjoy it. Maybe it works as an alternative energy source?
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>>172172595
THANKS
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>>172173018
Simone did everything wrong and acted like a child.
Don't even say its Jean-paul's fault either whats the guy suppose to do? Give in to every selfish want of others because they said so even after he told them no? Would you hop 80 times whenever i asked otherwise i'd go on a murdering spree nearby?
No. That shits called being an emotional hostage and no one has the right to enforce that on others nor does anyone have any obligation to be beholden to it.
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>>172173243
so hol up
u be sayin
that 2B would love me
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>>172173253
What happened there?
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>>172173262
I don't have to cut shit, sorry but I can't help you, I didn't die in the castle so I haven't had any experience with this issue.
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>>172173243
>you will never got the bunker as your harem of qt androids
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>>172172929
As long as there is a chance of my file helping (you) I think it is worth it regardless

>>172172987
>having friends
I am kinda jealous
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>>172173362
His network was fucked so he spent two hours trying to do E alone and then the next day when he had the network connection began sobbing when he was assisted.
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>>172173341
Everyone would love you, anon.
2B, 60, 210, 9S even Commander.
And than that love will lead to conflict and they will kill each other.
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>>172173282
I'm not sure that machines which run on unstable fusion reactors could derive much of any energy from food.
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>>172173221
You think thats bad?
Managed to convince a buddy who's similarly inclined to play and he moaned all through A, became convinced i'm either memeing or that endings B-E will just be minor rehashes or small tidbits, and claimed he has other games he HAS to play such as Horizon and Andromeda.
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What do these numbers mean again?
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>>172173362
He was having issues with his PSN account and couldn't get online, and was playing a japanese release copy, so he tried to solo ending E. Came back the next day after getting it fixed. There were legit tears.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMaFWNzR7X4
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>>172173553
My other friend was almost done with Route C and he dropped it to play Andromeda. I feel you.
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>>172173506
Im sure a field agent's operator is choose to counter lvl their personality, other wise whybwould 2B get a genki chat box and 9S dead pan stoic bitch
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>>172173571
No idea.

>those numbers on 8H
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>>172173341
You'd be like a fucking god to them. They would love you so much that you'd be terrified and begging for them to stop! <3

You'd have no free time for yourself, they'd likely fight each other over who gets to spend time with you. They might even decide to cripple you or hook you up to a life support machine and keep you as their dearest possession. I still wish it would happen so I could spend any amount of time with A2
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>>172173506
>60
I don't need no fighter, leader, or intellectual I just want someone to fight for
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Now that the dust has settled, can we all agree that this is the best song in the game?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4MNkAptfcA
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>>172173665
Fucking how, man? I bought this and Nioh at the same time. And being a big fan of both Dark Souls and Ninja Gaiden, I'm excited and high hopes for Nioh. But I haven't even touched it yet.
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>>172173253
I chuckled at how mind-blown he was by Ending C's Intro credits.
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>>172173378
>you'll never help them get over the bullshit and start making progress towards their own survival

I mean, shit. I'd see them as heavy mechanical kids. May just be my age talking, though.
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>>172173571
Its an organizational method so they're basically coordinates and N/Y is were they backed up or not.
9S wasn't for example so we get an older iteration backup but 2B's info was.
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>>172173282
As long as it isn't fish, maybe
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>>172173571
>y/n could directly means they are slated to be stalked by a S unit
spooky
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>>172173552
Just knowledge from fruit.
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QUICK FUCKERS NAME MEME WEAPONS IN THE GAME.

>Cypress Stick
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So did the machines AI get a form of WCS? Was the virus connected to the watchers?
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>>172173804
This makes sense and I am willing to believe it.
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>>172173760
2kats supremacy. All others are failures.
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So what actually happens if you eventually pirate the game and can't go online? You're barred from completing ending E until you get a doctor's in shmups?
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>>172173961
What?
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>>172173923
Engine blade.
All spears.
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>>172173553
>He HAS to play Andromeme
But why tho?
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>>172171542
Look man, you knew the stakes when you booted up the game

No happy endings.
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>Bruce lee robot last quest
Its highlander

>speed star last quest
I have lost my purpose

>the 3 robots awakening to self aware
No real purpose


God dammit, not everything is do or die you fucks
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>>172171140
The lack of links to the modding/mining group is heretical.

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/nierMnM
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>>172173949
Yeah. I'm to drunk and tired to explain it right but bigger numbers don't actually mean much in it they're just a place in a place like how room 205 and 210 are both equidistant from the central stairwell in apartment complexes. Numbers on one side of the midpoint are much the same as the others and the placement of single digits is telling.
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What do the D and H units do?
A = Assault
S = Scout
B = Battle
O = Operator
E = Executioner
D= ?
H = ?
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>>172173923
Iron Pipe
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>>172173923
>that annoying platformer section
>for that
I was mad
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>>172171661
There was one in the last thread
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>>172174076
Oh yes it is
I'm gonna drop you on that stack of dimes you call a neck
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>>172171958
You probably won't fully appreciate it unless you're versed in the lore of Drakengard/NieR, but I mean, it's an Action RPG made by Platinum, so you can't really go too wrong.

And yes, Tooby is cute.
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Is it boring that Virtuous Contract is my favorite weapon? I feel like that's boring.
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>>172174123
D = Defender
G = Gunner
H = Healer (confirmed by Taro)

>>172174167
I meant an edited image with translations, I know shit about translating Japanese mangoo pages. Trying to figure it out.
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>>172174009
when you play Nioh use dual katanas.
Nothing compares or matches up to them.
>>172174016
Because if he doesn't he'll acquire a backlog. So now that he has andromeda and horizon but i made him "waste" his time on Nier and i'm telling him he still has a whole 2/3rds left to go he's just saying its not worth the time.
At least in andromeda he'll have his rewards thrown at him every 5 seconds via explosions and gunfights and a short yet understandable story.
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>>172174197
Any way for me to get up to speed with the lore without playing the games? I don't have a PS3.
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>>172173238
camera trickery, the camera doesn't always function the same, it depends where you lower it from and you have to keep it there until she brushes you off and turns around
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>>172171958
Yes

Come for the booty, stay for the oh my god my tears are crying
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>>172173961
2kats need skills to really take off, and are absolutely frustrating immediately in a fresh New Game.
Once you get some skill points, then it's peachy.
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>>172174239
Nah, it's both aesthetically and thematically pleasing to use.
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>>172174151
>annoying
what
it took me like a grand total of 40 seconds
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>>172174239

I used the heavy and light Virtuous-whatever swords for the entire game.

The way the game is structured encourages you to just stick with one weapon - since you'll be dumping upgrades into it.
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>>172174076
What did you fucking say, nancy boy?! Don't make me come over there!
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>>172174319
No, ignore him. Past game lore has nearly no bearing on Automata.
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>>172174282
Oh cool! Kind of a shame we don't get to see the full MMO Raid Party in action.
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>>172174452
>nearly no bearing
>Understanding a crucial plot point requires understanding the events from Nier
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>>172174336
Yeah just use kusari as a crutch till then.
Once you have shit like watersword or god of wind you're golden and Sign of the Cross is just obscenely OP.
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>>172174319
There are Let's Plays, like Two Best Friends and The Dark Id.

And Clemps has some story analysis/summary videos,
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>>172173995
Pretty much, my dude.

Solo Ending E is like Drakengard 3's Final Song all over again.
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>>172174517
What are you even talking about? Besides Devola and Popola, there wasn't much that wasn't explained in archives.
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>>172174517
What crucial plot point? You get a mini novella about Devola and Popola when it's relevant.
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>>172173995
You miss all of the healing.
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>>172174461
It wasn't favorable and A2 got bullied for it for the past 3 years.
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>>172172873
Big Sis!

Several child suicides later...
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>>172174452
>ignore him
>Gestalt project closure
>D&P story and fate
>Facade
>The factory being Junk Heap
>and probably more that I cant think of the top of my head
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>>172173995
Most likely the system has some dummy names or something, otherwise people playing with the network disabled wouldn't be able to do it.
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>>172173995
You can't solo E. It gets to a point your bullets can't push back the onslaught of theirs.
Also you miss player corpses.
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>>172174776
>can't solo
Old news
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISOhFLSAahY
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>>172174546
s-source
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>>172174714
The factory was Junk Heap?
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>>172174340
>>172174416

Glad you feel me on that. It's just very nice, yeah.
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>>172174714
>a bunch of stuff that isn't remotely relevant to Automata's own story
The closest thing you got is fully appreciating Emil's sidequest, everything else is just fluff.
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does this game get better?

ive just gotten to the forest where they're all talking about a king?

I mean its pretty good but everyone is just raving like its fucking amazing... does it get a lot better soon? thx
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>>172175063
Just play the game faggotq
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>>172175063
The game hasn't really even started for you mate. Keep going.
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>>172175063
If you don't like it by that point, it probably isn't for you.
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>>172174903
That might be a bit of a stretch, but Abandoned factory memo tells about P-22 rampage underground and during 2B escape pod mentions that the factory was used to manufacture P-22 and P-33 robot models.
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>>172175153
i said its pretty good
>>172175147
ty
>>172175136
ok
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>>172175063
you will have to replay it right after the first end

are you on easy? you should play for the story
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>>172175313

im on normal

tried hard got my dick cut off in the introduction
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>"I'll be your older sister.."
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So I apparently have some shit I need to get from some locked chests in the BECOME AS GODS part of the factory. What chapter do I need to warp to in order to get that shit? As far as I remember, I was never even able to play as 9S in that area, only as his hacked machines.
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>>172173752
shit/10

Weight of the World and City Ruins a best.
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>>172175440
Any chapter in route C
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>>172174319
You could scan through the wiki if you want to ruin your ability to play the previous games unspoiled.

Start at Project Gestalt and work your way around from there. Drakengard lore is only tangentially connected via Red Eyes anyway.
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>>172175421
This game has given me a newfound appreciation of /ss/
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Is dod2 worth playing or should I skip to 3?

And any news on the genitals? Remember some fag sending somewhat over the top message.
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Am I alone in wanting to see Zero and 2B interact? I feel like those two are a comedy sketch waiting to happen.
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>>172175501
Oh, no shit? I guess I must have never returned to that area at all or I would have known that. Thanks.
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Tell me this place wasn't the single greatest location in the whole game.
Those tinkling bells just killed me, let me tell ya.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY0D4zv9CGk
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What's a good PS2 emulator and where can I get a ROM for Drakengard 1?
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>>172175421
A2 is basically the older sister of every YorHa Android after her.
When are the doujins where she starts cashing in on all the stranded S-Types?
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>>172175575
What is /ss/?
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Eternity

It hurts

It really hurts
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>>172175630
Closet we have is Taro's personal approval of the butthole.

>I looked around in other interviews and couldn’t find a definitive answer, but now that the game is out, could we put a rest to the “2B’s backside” rumors? In other words, does the model actually possess the, uh, certain “body part” people have been searching for?

>YT: Since I’m not actually a modeller, I haven’t seen 2B with her clothes off, so I’m not quite sure if it is there or not… but personally I would like it to be! (laughs) To do something that’s kind of off-the-charts and meaningless like that, that seems very Nier-like to me.

>http://wegotthiscovered.com/gaming/interview-yoko-taro-nier-automata/
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>>172175963
>there's people -this- new
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>>172175963
Purest love.
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How do I get Anemone to cough up her archives? She's supposed to have a bunch that she'll give to A2 but how and when?
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>>172175963
how nu
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>>172176041
9S isn't that young you fuck.

>>172176010
Expected this, anyway I normally stick to /g/ and /qst/ and they have a tendency to shit on weebs.
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>>172176102
You talk to her after you ask her about the fuel filter
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>>172175963
Fucking newfag, you have to go back.
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>>172175575

femdom /ss/ is best fetish

I want 2b to choke me while riding me
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>>172176165
It has to be that specific point in time? Not just any time afterward? Guess I need to hop chapters. Thanks.
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>>172176102
Just play the game
75% of the questions in this thread can be answered by "it'll literally get forced on you later if you just KEEP PLAYING"
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>>172176158
>2B looks like a 25 year old woman
>9S looks like a 15 year old boy

explain that, nerd
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>>172174870
Sorry, I got it from a past thread in the general.
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>>172176158
>Expected this, anyway I normally stick to /g/ and /qst/ and they have a tendency to shit on weebs.
>I-I'm merely pretending to be retarded!
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>>172175963
>>172176010
>>172176189
I don't know wtf it is either and I've been here for ten years.
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>>172176106
>>172176189
See >>172176158

I just looked it up, I'm not sure if I'd call it pure love though. Isn't that rape?

>>172176264
They're both 18 obv
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>>172176240
Probably anytime after that part since that's the first time you meet Anemone as A2, if you went straight to the desert, that is.
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>>172175653
>Zero getting confused and thinking 9S is 2B's personal fuckslave

waiting for the bath scene where Zero goes "wait, where's your dick?"
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>>172175421
Forgot that you could do that quest as A2.

I wonder if the dialogue changes much initiating other quests as different characters.
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>>172176429
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>>172176247
I've finished the game my dude. I wasn't worried about every tiny little thing when I was playing through. Just trying to clean up and plat that ass now.
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>finish automata
>looking to play the first game because automata was great and the first nier has a nice young protagonist
>'and hey i'm gay'
>but turns out NA version is bara father
>'no not in that way'
Would you think the rerelease that might happen will include brother nier?
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>>172176358
Expected this as in, expected to be called a newfag for asking.

I listed the boards I frequent as reasons for not knowing the term.

I would've googled first but I was curious how many people would get on me for that.
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>>172176575
papa Nier is great faget
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>>172175751
>Kaine Salvation
>Song of the Ancients
>Emile Sacrifice
Any time I heard a song or reprise from the first game it hit me pretty hard.
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So, game is selling pretty good and this is Square Enix we are talking about. How high are the chances of relatively big DLC and what would you want to see in it?
>>172176575
Doubtful, they would have to revoice MC and Nier One had much more character interaction then Automata. Also Papa Nier works much better like 95% of the game.
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>WHY DO I DESIRE THE TOUCH OF SOMETHING THAT NO LONGER EXISTS

D-d-don't worry 9S, I'll find some way to cryogenically freeze myself and make it to the automata world for you ;_;
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>>172176575
the rerelease is impossible anyway since nier cannot be released digitally, but even if they get the rights shit sorted out and it does happen no way they'll take the time to translate and dub the brother, it'll just be the father
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>>172176494
Stop bullying me.

Pure love can only exist between two legal adults, or two teens. I draw the line at a 4 year age difference between the two groups.

After that it can be exploitative.
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>>172176225
I bet Commander takes out all of her frustration and suffering on that S model running the maintenance room.
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>>172176575
I kind of doubt it.

I have a soft spot for Papa Nier and company though. The whole cast of the first game's great.
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>>172176575
>the rerelease that might happen

Did I miss something?

>>172176637
Also this. Literally the best game protagonist ever tbqh
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>>172176693
>Kaine will never be your badass, affirming, female role model
>You'll never be adorable dying loli or cute skele shota
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>>172173923
Cypress Stick is amazing though, especially if you slap on a couple Crit Chips.
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>>172176752
W-what if the DLC undoes the happy E ending?
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>>172176457
To be fair, she wouldn't necessarily be incorrect in that assumption.

>2B getting annoyed at Zero's excessive swearing and vulgarity
They'd totally get along once there's enemies to fight though, and it would quickly turn into a friendly pissing contest over who's the bigger badass.
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>>172173923
Everything that isn't a katana tbqhwy.
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Any comment of the E-type assigned during the prologue mission? You think she was there just in case there would be any deserters? 11B did plan to go AWOL
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Why didn't the Hamelin Organisation realise that placing all of humanity's eggs in one precarious basket was a terrible idea and keep the human Genome in a few secure location as a back up in case things went tits up?
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>>172175983
Emil... Had a hard life

He needs time to rest
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>>172175063
It's not mindblowing but it's a solid 7/10 game. Play DMC 3/4 if you want better combat, Nier 1 if you want better story.
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>>172177020
What do you think killed 11B, anon?

The E-Type faked her death and took her out while she was trying to self-repair
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>>172177068
>Nier 1 if you want better story

Nier 1 has better characters but Automata has the superior narrative.
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>>172177110
She died of an early version of the logic virus that killed 2B and the rest of YoRHa
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>>172175414
Not even fucking with you, the introduction is the hardest part of the game on hard, provided you know when to fold 'em throughout the rest of the game (i.e. don't try and fight level 50 enemies at level 25 on your first run).
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>>172177036
Because they're dumb dumbs.
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>>172174776
That doesn't happen until you fail it a whole bunch of times. It's kinda backwards in that the more often you die the harder it gets, things get more and more HP, until eventually it just becomes straight up impossible and your bullets pass through the enemies.
If you are good enough to beat it on your first couple tries you can do it solo, obviously it's going to be balls hard and super tedious since you'll have to restart the entire shmup from the start whenever you die too often

>>172174737
It doesn't actually. It just asks you to connect to the network after every death, if you don't connect none of the names and messages will show up, it will just go straight to the next attempt.
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>>172177161
Nier 1 has better [everything that isn't gameplay].
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>>172177038
If Utahime Five is anything to go by, Emil turned into the sun. Thus, he is fated to sit alone in outer space, burning in thermonuclear fire for the next several billion years.
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>>172176954
>What if the DLC undoes the happy E ending
Depending on how it's done, I ignore it.

I ignore it as hard as I ignored the story of Brother One's edgy Elf friend and Kaine's sex life in the drama CDs.
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Automata is gonna get snubbed at the Keighley Awards just like Bloodborne was and you know it
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>>172177424
Who cares?
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>>172177407
>Not enjoying corpsefucking
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>>172177424
>Andromeda is going to win

I'm already mad, holy fuck
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>>172177424
>watching the hyper-normie awards
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>>172174123
S is Scanner
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>>172177110
looking back I find that the order of "death" during the prologue scene was 11B, then right after that, 7E. Seems intentional
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>>172177424
k and?
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>>172177036
I guess it's hard to account for nearly 10,000 years of conflict and collateral damage.
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>>172177563
>he doesn't watch the Shick Hydrobot awards with friends to laugh at it
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>>172177407
>and Kaine's sex life in the drama CDs.

I require more information.
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>>172171602
>>172171661
Only halfway through I realized all letters in this font are capital. Welp.
Translated with some additions by.
>>172160975
>>
I'm a fishing addict, is fishing cool in this game?
Is there a skill level?
Lots of different fish/weights?
A record of what you have caught?
Achievements?
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>>172177036
Because Project Gestalt was never about preserving Humanity. It was about saving the lives of the humans who were CURRENTLY alive via keeping their Soul, the important bit and the bit that made them people, away from their bodies, while their bodies did all the fighting and wiped out the Legion.

They were capable of creating new Replicants as often as they liked using the data from the Gestalted Human Souls. But those Replicants didn't have Souls of their own (until they developed their own consciousness, which fucked everything up on all sides of the equation) and thus A) Weren't truly Human, and B) Were reliant on the Gestalts for their continued 'reincarnation'.
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>>172177734
maybe
no
yes/no
yes
yes
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>>172177357
Kid just can't catch a break.
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>>172177694
>having friends
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>>172177734
It's a buggy rng fest, no skill, plenty of fish, there's a fish archive, achievement for 20 fish types caught.
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>Raiden vs Emil
>Raiden vs A2 berserk mode
>Raiden vs 2B and 9S together

Who can beat this motherfucker? basically A2 is JetStream Sam so she's the one that can kick his ass right?
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>>172177424
No one expects a weird niche game like Automata to win at a big mainstream event against Zelda and Horizon.

I'm just happy that it's had any success at all.
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>>172176954
>DLC will have fuckhard battles that are 100x harder than Jetstream sam DLC in order to save the commander, 6O, and 21O
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>>172177775
This. Really obvious, but the numbskulls in this thread could find a way to misinterpret a snapple fact.
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>>172177734
the only reason to fish is the get pod B or to look at butts
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>>172175414
Introduction is unironically the hardest part of the game, which makes the fact that you can't save before beating the first boss even more hilarious.

Yoko Taro does not give a shit about how well his games do.
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>>172177732
Thank you!
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>>172176954
what if the DLC is you as 2B trying to kill 9S in multiple scenarios?
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>>172177554
Actually, given how even normies are angry about the whole fiasco, Horizon will win.
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>>172178102
That would be neat.
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>>172178102
Sounds fucking awesome. Would love to play a montage of 9S assassinations.
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>9s gets 2b's forearm attached to him

there's either going to be a Liquid Snake plot device or he did it just so he can pretend it's 2b rubbing him off
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>>172178119
>>172178119
>the whole fiasco

Did I miss something?
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>>172177732
Thanks

reposting to reddit
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>>172178102
the madman won't do this r-right?
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>>172176482
You actually can't/ He just has that to say.
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>>172176808
Its true. I never would have made it through school or college with my unsustainable lifestyle without their being unhappy, middle-aged, married women.
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>>172178119
The matriarchy triumphs again, shitlords.
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>>172177554
Dunno man, even my normie friends think it's a hack-eyed piece of money-milking garbage.
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>>172177036
Is a backup genome being stored somewhere else going to stop you from being turned into salt tomorrow? No! So let us rip your soul out and cram it in this meatbot right the fuck now!
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>>172178264
Long story short, the flag title Mass Effect was given to division that made ONLY ME3 multiplayer combat. They did brush up good decorations, but the story writer of ME just bailed after few months and the animations were made by a cosplayer girl in 20s without proper experience. So there we have a game with good graphics and shit story and toddler level animations.
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>>172178236
He touches himself everywhere with 2B's arm.
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>>172177704
>Kaine post-Ending D
>after forgetting Nier and losing everyone else she feels increasingly lost and unstable but ends up befriending a villager who vaguely resembles Nier
>but the guy is killed in a shade attack some time after
>Without fully realizing it, Kaine ends up raping the corpse during a psychological breakdown after seeing his body, right before the guy's sister starts freaking out and snaps her out of it.
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>>172171438
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>>172178310
>its a prequel
>9S doesnt have his sword
>commander doesnt belive the secret yorha has would endanger anyone
>2B has to keep 9S in check
>we get to know why yorha androids were made to cry as well
i wouldnt put it past him
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>>172178389
Actually I was hoping you could shove my dog's soul in the meatbot instead.
>>
>emil memories
>mall flower
>i remeber being chased around by a boar.
Aww man, that sound fu---*remember the castle in nier 1
HUNT ALL BOARS, KILL ALL BOARS, REVENGE FOR THE SAND PEOPLE!!
>>
>E-Drug
Wh-What's 9S trying to pull?
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>>172178070
sauce please. iqdb and google give nothing.
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>>172178413
the game also released with glitches up the ass to the point of near unplayability
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>>172177948
I would play it if the opportunity arose.
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>>172178413
I see, sounds very humorous tbqh.

I've always hated Bioware though, I'm happy that ME3 woke the normies up on how shit they are. Hopefully this will finish them off for good.
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>>172178102
>Seeing the first time 2B called 9S Nines
>Shortly after she receives orders to go ahead and murder him
I'd actually really like to see how that scenario played out.
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>>172178669
/v/ had a field week or more with it. The webm threads were pouring non-stop.
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>>172178531
why the fuck does the original Nier, a game that was already considered seriously technically incompetent by 7th gen standards, have better faces than Automata?
>>
>>172178554
>>172178102
DLC where Toobs doesn't have anything to do with 9S would be much better. Enough that in main game the instant 9S disappears from the screen she instantly goes "Wheres 9S?"
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>>172177704
During one of kaine's nightly defending of the village shades got in, she rushes to this dudes house only to find him dead, she goes on a rampage, works up a murder boner, and rapes the asshole of the fresh corpse while the little sister she just saved watches the whole thing to climax, whereupon kaine runs off for one of her crying wanks, again.
Also she rapes someone who fixed her injuries up and gets caught and subsequently increases arm frequency/visibly repulses and horrifies a random traveling philosopher that was just trying to advocate for her fair treatment as a persob.
>>
>>172178768
I stopped going to /v/ probably about 3 years ago now because I couldn't stand all the nintenfats, but I do miss some of the drama at western dev's expense.
>>
>Automate DlC
>its the only perfect happy ending but is extremely difficult to finish
Will you brute for it anon??
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>>172178413
Andromeda's animations are a mess, but it's bullshit to pin it all on one woman.
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>>172178772
>tumblr link credits
Give me the original image, fuck that.
>>
>the three YoRHa girls who hang out in the desert slacking off are essentially the only YoRHa units who didn't get killed off or go insane. Two of these are high as fuck off of E-Drugs, while the other is just hanging out at a nice oasis watching the fish.

The anti-work NEET squad wins again.
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>>172178629
Lots of art on this twitter.
https://twitter.com/akui_Auto/status/846077997903822848
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God fucking dammit every time I stop Emil he sells chips

He sells nothing but fucking chips

It doesn't matter if he's near the desert camp or by the skyscraper where the game begins

He never drives towards/near the resistance camp; just goes into the pit and back towards the desert camp

Give me your weapons you fucking mutant
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>>172178831
lol
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>>172178581
>Melee Attack Up
>Speed Savle
>E-Drug
>Large Recovery
He wants rough an violent drug induced robofuck
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>>172178772
>tfw no cat ears accessory.
TAROOOOO
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>>172179060
10$ dlc
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>>172178831
Because the characters in Automata are all Androids :^))))
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>>172179014
Do you want advice 'cause I can give you some longwinded advice on exactly how I did it not too long ago
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>>172179058

wouldn't you?
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>>172178831
Yeah, I wasn't sure if that was my imagination or not.

I think Automata looks fine, but somehow think that the first Nier did better on the characters' hair and faces.
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>>172179136
>Accessory pack dlc
That can actually work, all you need to do is create some models, and you get an easy profit.
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>>172176373
>I've been here for ten years.
No. No you haven't.
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>>172179169
I would bring more
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>>172178581
It's 21O who leaves those for him isn' tit?
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>>172179003
https://twitter.com/akui_Auto/status/846077997903822848
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>>172179157
I'm all ears, and about four more tries from stopping him until I burn Kaine's house to the ground
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>>172179273

>tfw been here since 2009

i just cant stop
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>>172178531
>>172178942
Not sure what I expected, but it definitely wasn't that.
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>>172179302
>>172179003
Wow, I'm retarded or something. Should be:
https://twitter.com/kotori_bb/status/845631725359181824
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>>172178772
>>172179003
>>172179060
And nothing of value was lost.
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>Dlc
>ending [F]orever and [E]ver
>is a halpy ending
>difficulty lvl is locked on very hard
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>>172179380
It goes places.
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>>172179595
I'd play it
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>>172179595
>You play as basic Stubby
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>>172179595
We already have our happy ending.
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>>172179318
I dunno if this matters but I've done the Lunar Tears quest and none of Emil's other quests.

Okay, so I loaded up chapter 17-01 (which is a 9S exclusive chapter) and talked to Emil in his normal starter spawn on the edge of the city and desert. After talking to him once and then using the transporter to change areas to the resistance camp so I could re-enter the city he hadn't spawned on any of his paths, so I kept traveling back and forth between the center city transporter, the near-factory city transporter, the desert camp and the resistance camp basically at random with no real plan. I did this quite a few times and he never spawned.

After that, I went into the subterranean cavern where his house is (and entered the room with the Emil masks). I didn't pick up the mask for the quest manually but as I was just typing this I realized I might have picked it up with auto-collect, so that presents an unknown in the process unfortunately.

Anyway, after going to his house in the city crater cavern I left and saw that he had spawned on his "near the resistance camp" route so I went and shot him when he was at the spot in my screenshot. He landed against one of the sheet metal walls to the resistance camp and was selling his high level materials and the weapons.
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>>172179004
Don't forget 4S.
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>>172179739
A real everybody loves happy ending mall shopping.
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>>172179493
Now without cropping and tumblr, because It's the Internet.
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>>172179595
>DLC
>Machine [R]esurgence
>Play as Shin Dinosaur Machine
>In the ending, Shin Dino dies.
>After beating it, there is a scene of Androids growing out from his tail
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>>172179318
>>172179850
Here's where he landed.
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>Route C
>Pascal's Village
>the sisters

I made it pretty far into this game without feeling anything, too. Now it's Chedynhal Sanctuary all over again.
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>>172179690
>increasingly difficult and convoluted level design that starts off at the factory and goes on a journey through a surrealist mindscape of the surrounding areas, times, worlds, and moon
>at the end of every level is a Brobot needing that bucket of oil
>once you beat the final level the screen winks out like an old tube TV
>you wake up as ending E rebuilt 9S before it fades to black cockblocking you yet again taro style.
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>>172173282
Ooh, that's interesting. I'm gonna sound like a bit of an idiot, but I like thinking about this kind of stuff about these andriods.
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>>172179595
I have no problem with this.
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>>172180115
The sisters got me as well despite the fact that the escort quest kinda pissed me off.
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>>172179850
>>172180013
Hm; I'm on Route C but thanks for the info.
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>>172179739
>he thinks E was a happy ending
Does taro have to slap you in the face with his dick for you to get it?
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>>172178942
>Also she rapes someone who fixed her injuries up
I don't think that ever happened.

Kaine just went into a (potentially Tyrann fueled) blood-rage after killing some shades and started jerking off afterwards, right before the woman who wanted to help Kaine found her and started freaking out about it, and ran off deciding that the villagers were right, and that Kaine didn't deserve to be treated like a human.
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>>172179850
You can't auto pick up his mask with the chip.
Where you shoot at him doesn't matter, what he is selling is already decided when he spawns in, you can tell by what music is playing. When he has the weapons and high level upgrade materials it will sound super sped up, I've only ever seen it happen on the route before the resistance camp but I wouldn't rule out the other routes either, I doubt that matters. Resistance Camp is just super easy to save scum with, do a save and just reload until you see Emil infront of the camp, sooner or later he will have the sped up music and sell your weapons/rares.
I've gotten him 3 times now just reloading, once on my first playthrough, and then twice on my 100% playthrough since I didn't have enough money to stock up on all the materials the first time
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Still making my way through Darksiders 2 in my backlog clearing attempt. Please tell me N:A has better combat mechanics than the hell that is this game. Because what combat basically comes down to in this is intense kiting and getting used as a volleyball if enemies catch you. And lots of crows.
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>>172180115
>Pascal's Village
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Automata DLC is Zero showing up out of nowhere to unfuck some previously unknown time paradox. She has to kill three different versions of 2B, 9S, and A2, which somehow resurrects them from being killed by a clone of Caim in a branch the player never saw. And all the while, Accord is there, with her arm "glitching out" so that it's conveniently always flipping the bird at the camera.
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tfw you're only one girl
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>>172180237
No. See. Thats that philosopher i mentioned.
Another chick fixed up kaines injuries and it lead into a "no, please..." moment before you hear clothes being ripped and 2 pairs of sobbing.
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>>172180345
k
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How do you guys ship the type E from amnesia with?

Who do you ship with 4S?

Anemone? Jackass?

I ship A2 with 4S and waifu'd the E
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>>172180264
I'm aware that I likely included waaaaay to much info but so much of the advice online is just "lol reload until he's at the resistance camp" without even giving a chapter, and up 'till now I've had several times where he spawned on his resistance camp route but sold me chips, so I wanted a to ensure a strictly repeatable process for future reference.
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>>172180446
tfw carrying the weight of the world
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>>172180230
You guys seem to think that Taro is some supreme edgelord.
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>>172180447
Which Drama CD was that? I don't remember Kaine going that far off the deep end.
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>>172180230
How is the three androids getting another chance not happy?
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>>172180489
>thinking a sub lesbot will want a Sissy-Model
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>>172180216
At least it's easy as fuck compared to the Family Squabble one.
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>>172179882

>4S now has a harem of drug fueld androids
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>>172179595
>DLC
>Machine [R]eturns
>10,000 years after launching into space
>the ark crashes onto a planet
>It's their alien creators' homeworld
>9S is on the ark
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>>172180636
>pascal's village

kind of is m8
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>>172180540
Just reloading until you walk out of the resistance camp and hearing the crazy music is the entire repeatable process though, what chapter you are on or what character you are playing doesn't matter, if you've ever encountered Emil's shop or visited his house on the current playthrough doesn't matter, it's just RNG, you can read all the placebo and weird theories into it that you want, won't change that in the end you are just going to sit there and reset over and over until you get to buy your two weapons. Better get used to it too, you'll spend even longer resetting for other stuff like Elaborate Gadgets
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>>172180115
What happens to them? I didn't go to the village on route C
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>>172180696
>Family Squabble
>final wave includes a gun biped appearing and fucking EXPLODING bullets into the defenseless child machine
I laughed my ass off because it was so excessive, but I wouldn't have been laughing if I'd had to do it over again.
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>>172179302
>>172179493
>>172179919
Get that tumblr shit out of here.
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>>172180636
>>172180656
I'm saying you missed the connotations of ending E.
Unless EVERYONE picks up selfless altruism shit like war, strife, violence, needless death, meaningless life, and all of that jazz will NEVER end. It entirely validates N2 and Adams shitty world view and fits into us being machines just preprogrammed to ultimately repeat our mistakes because we can't change.
How many people do you know that didn't E themselves when they had the chance?
Shit like "but i wanted to 100% the game!" Are just selfish excuses and keep them in the same category as those that hoard their saves out of any other selfish want.
Even the 3 androids might be doomed to shit cause ultimately YoRHa ain't dead cause other bunkers and pods exist as does the moon staff to restart shit so they're just the next generations A2.
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>>172180880

the entire village is eaten alive and the survivors (kids) commit suicide causing Pascal to wipe his memories
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>>172180992
Are the sisters in the factory? I didn't pay attention
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>>172180638
I don't even remember its been so long but its a distinctly burnt in memory as i made the mistake of Gentle Reading with your host Yoko Taro to try and make it through a very stressful and vulnerable time in my life.
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>>172181078
No they're in the village, but they're surrounded by zombie machines so they might have gotten caught up in your collateral damage.
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>>172181112
>>172181162
You can find all the corpses of the meaningful villagers laying in the on the floor.
From the dad, mom & son, to the inventor.
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>>172173192
I think that's the exact thing I put down.
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>>172173282
But wait, doesn't eating the mackeral give you a bad end?
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>>172180815
You're a faggot in the extreme. 20 area refreshes with zero Emil spawns on any of his routes and then an immediate spawn after going into an area that's only opened after a flag is tripped by talking to him indicates to me that it's not as simple as you're jerking yourself off over. Also, I've already farmed everything I care about in the game so there's no need to pat yourself on the back for having farmed elaborate gears and other shit; we've all been there already and most of us don't need to jerk ourselves raw over it.
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So...
Explain [E]nding to me, please.

A2, 2B and 9S are alive and relatively well, but are on the run with A2 being a lone wolf again with machines restarting the network in the future?
What about YoRHa? After Jackass (possibly) spreading the info YoRHa would be meaningless, at least for the original purpose. Not sure that all the androids would enter coma tho, c Nines, Commander and Jackass.
And who exactly created YoRHa?


Also someone please explain machine cyber red gals origin. And mad robots resembling Emil.
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>>172180489
>I ship A2 with 4S and waifu'd the E
Anon..... A2 only wants A4's clit.
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>>172180928
>kid gets fucking bodied right at the start
>somehow make it through the rest with him on the tiniest sliver of health
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>>172181341
Yeah, they might be able to eat/drink, but mackerel oil's not great.
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I want it I need it
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>>172180928
>>172181490
>accidentally locked onto the kid and blew him the fuck away myself

Why the hell did it even let you lock on to him
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>>172181457
What even is your problem? All I said was that all these silly theories don't exactly help when it's pretty obvious that it's just random, no need to get all offended.
I bought the weapons long before I even went to the underground and his house, I can assure you there is zero correlation there and you are suffering from a pretty heavy case of confirmation bias.
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>>172181676
>anon never locked down a walking pair of ass and boob pillows who has a cosplay addiction
Unlock ending E and erase yerself.
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>>172180636
Taro is definitely a suffering type writer. Bittersweet is about the highest level of ending you're going to get from him, and that's perfectly fine, not all stories need a happy ending. There is often much more emotional depth to an ambiguous ending. It's nice to be a little sad, once in a while.
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>deleting pascal's memories

I knew it was coming. I knew it was coming because I kept coming to these threads; I fucking knew it was coming.

But hearing the voices just made it worse.

You son of a bitch, Taro.
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Wow I just found out I can shoot the bots in background in the library
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So. I wonder if that Shut In Machine is still locked in the village.
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>>172180636
>pascal village
>fear was a mistake
>sand people weading
>Muther fucker Cain
>Five's dove
>Zero to Four
Really nigga??
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>>172181795
>killed him on my first playthrough
>had to wipe his memories later on to get all weapons
>his lines
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>>172181795
Something tells me this game would lead to me hunting down Taro and murdering him. So I'm not going to play it. Because I think that may be exactly what Taro wants.
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>>172181795
Why didn't you just walk away? Why did you rob him of his self-determination?
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>decide to replay some DoD1

Ehhh, it's not that bad. The only real problem is the right stick doesn't permanently move the camera
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>>172181770

post pics of your gf dressed as 2b taking a dick in teh bum. i'll wait
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>>172181795
I fucking knew to gird my britches and have the gin ready for Emil's fight but that fucking laughing that simultaneously devolves into actual fucking sobbing and despair filled scream of sadness and frustration floored me.
Every Taro game seems to have one moment where shit actually makes me have to stop and go cry in bed for the rest of the day and this game had 3.
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>>172181845
He has an icon on the map so he's still in there, yes. It won't let you hack the door anymore but you can kill him through it, if you kill him the icon will just be gone and not respawn anymore if you revisit the town
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>>172181795
>have to redo the Pascal memory wipe segment every time you want to buy machine parts after using chapter select
Despair
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>>172181795
I'm not that far yet, but I ended up reading about that part anyways... I'm not ready. I may never be ready. Hold me, anon.
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>>172181731
>Needing the game to restrict you from locking him.
No anon, you should have controlled yourself but instead you saw a machine and you pressed/clicked. You're actually the bad guy.
>>172181781
It hits harder because real life doesn't have too many unambiguously happy endings. I've never liked the 100% happy or 100% edgy endings because they feel shallow, ambiguity gives depth to actions.
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>>172181945
I've seen endings A-D (no E), and I don't know what any of this shit is besides Pascal's Village
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>>172181992
Suuuuure it's not that bad. Come back to us after you get every ending.
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>>172181845
Yep. You can shockwave through the wall if you hump it and auto-loot will pick up an item as his blip goes off radar.
>>172181949
You are correct. He'll then trap you via conversation and now he has a new drinking buddy until your liver gives out 3 days later.
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Someone said Taro believes working for the story makes it better. I disagree because having to read supplemental materials distances you from the events of the story. Ending E works because it is self contained, and every single hurr durr grimderp attempt at an emotional gut punch only works because Taro puts every millisecond of these characters crying in full view when something bad happens. He absolutely knows when he wants something to happen to explain everything in every single detail.

This sort of writing failed in Destiny, Halo, and Automata. It can only be said to work in Dark Souls because Dark Souls games don't have active plots. You don't fucking do or accomplish anything in them except fulfilling the magic fire throne thing or kill an evil babby.

>>172181795
How was that anything but so over the top as to be funny? I laughed at how corny it was. I mean, fuck, you just came from WE NEED 400 TANKS AND PLANES TO KILL THESE FUCKING KIDS. How on earth could you take that seriously?
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>>172182032
Wait. It's something you have to choose to do? And you're calling Taro the monster?

Just.
Walk.
Away.
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I love 2B's legs too much. I could spend hours just watching her walk around the world.
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>>172181997
Nah shes mine.
animedetour in 2 weeks so doubtless her being what will most likely be the only Commander cosplayer in existence will surely lead to photos circulating.
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>>172182146
That is not Automata.
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>>172182090
The true superior ending is that which logically concludes the themes of the story. Ambiguity for its own sake is just as limp and empty as happiness or "edginess" for its own sake.
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Anyone got the Pisseth off image?
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>>172182339
Right, that makes sense
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>>172182146
>i dont knkw what any of this are
Automata is your 1st Taro game, righr??
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>>172181992
You're in for a ride, little buddy.
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>>172182195
>until your liver gives out 3 days later.
Metabolism is too fast to handle a steady influx of chemical intoxicants. I'd die a lot quicker than that,
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>>172182401
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>>172182297
This post indicates to me that you're attempting to participate in a discussion about a part of the game you haven't played, which consequently indicates to me that you're a bit of a dense cunt.

Additionally, when you actually get to the segment in question, try walking away and then come back here and tell me how satisfied you are with your decision.
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>>172182451
Yes, I don't own a PS3
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>>172180715
This is the opposite of a problem.
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>>172182230
But ending E also requires supplemental material to full understand its impact.
People who actively think its a legitimately good ending are those that didn't read this material.
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>>172182593
What other shit do you have to read
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>>172180987
I don't think anyone was implying that those connotations aren't there. E is a happy ending in context of the game and especially with the nihilistic ride it becomes towards the end. It's just not a happily ever after kind of happy which it doesn't need to be and I don't think anyone interprets it as one.
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>>172182515
DrAkengar 1 was on Ps2 and nier 1 was on xbox, drakengard 3 is the only one ps3 exclusive
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>>172181949
>haha guys this game sure sounds wacky I'm definitely not gonna play it
How old are you? Why are you in this general?
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I just got into the first NieR game, why is every character in this game so attractive, both papa and bro Nier too
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>>172182514
I'd probably reach that point, frown, and shut the game off forever.

I'd then shut the lights off and stare at the ceiling for several hours.
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>>172182593
Ending E doesn't require anything but the game itself to realize the full scope of. I stayed completely in the dark until playing through the entire game myself and understood it's message just fine
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>>172182472
Thanks anon
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>>172181969
Who else is going to sell child cores?
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>>172182674
I don't own any of those either, I only had a Gamecube and Wii before I switched to playing exclusively on PC
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>>172181845
Yes, and his little house catches on fire with him locked inside. . . with the most impossible to break lock. . . that he made himself.
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>>172182718
>Papa Nier is good looking
Wow...
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>>172182620
Emils weapons, a lot of network related archive shit, and fires of prometheus.
>>172182630
True enough. "Happy....for now" is about as happy an ending Taro's made.
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>>172181463
Emil cloned himself so as to increase his effectiveness as a weapon, but eventually began to get copy errors. Over the centuries of pointless war that followed, those copy errors cascade and eventually the clones go completely insane, barring the one who you meet, who may or may not be the original. It's purposely left unclear.

Devola and Popola are androids created near the start of Project Gestalt to assist and oversee the process. I have no idea why they are still around, but it's entirely possible there were multiple sets of them.

Yes, if Jackass succeeds in spreading the word, the entire YoRHa organisation becomes defunct. Does that mean the androids are free? What is 'Free', at the end of the day, when you are literally an artificial person built entirely for the purpose of waging a completely pointless war, with your thoughts and feelings wired for that specific goal?

Otherwise, the pointless war continues.
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>>172182718
>why is every character in this game so attractive
'cause you're a desperate virgin
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>>172182334

post pics of her body, blur the face if you want
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How did the Devola and Popola models in Automata survive for so long? Weren't they discontinued? And if they were discontinued, why even make them feel guilt in the first place?
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>>172182593
No you don't.
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>>172182718
>Papa and post-timeskip Brother Niers
>Kaine's pent up, barely contained cocklust
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>>172182297
You moran. The damage was done, erasing his memories was an act of mercy at that point.

Yeah it didn't feel good, but walking away and leaving him to suffer would've felt ten times worse.
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>>172182962
Discontinued means production ceases, it doesn't mean you go and eleminate all models already out there.
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>>172182905
hold me anon
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>>172181731
Because you're playing as an android who was built to kill machines.
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>>172182821
>>172182905
>>172182718
I phrased that horribly, what I meant is that I like their personality
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>>172182962
>>172182962

they got lucky

to make them feel bad about the other ones going mad
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>>172181969
Because at that point its not. He's already thrown that burdensome yoke upon your shoulders.
ANY choice you made is YOUR choice and directly effects him in a meaningful way. If pascal has a sin its the fact he instantly gave up his agency when shit got badder than bad which is even more tragic as we know he's proven capable of rising above strife in a world actively antagonistic against this.
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>>172182801
Well, youtube have the videos, there a chick that does a somewhat decent explanation of taro verse plot and ask anyone here about Cain
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>>172182997
*leaving him to suffer alone

TARO MUST PAY
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>>172182879
I meant red dresses, not red hair.

And actual machines, ones you see in the end of a/b and in the park c/d. I thought it was a coincidence, but I might have missed smth.
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Huh I didn't you can pop open the core on the goliath tank in the theme park and kill it like that
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>>172183110
Who cares about his agency? He's a robot. Deleting memories is something robots can do. Quit being autistic.
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>>172182932
I've tried this before and even if i dip a wad of $100's in chocolate and diamonds the answers a no sadly.
She won't care if is thirsty virgins snapping shots in a 'Con but if its for the actual internet its a no.
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>>172182090
>You're actually the bad guy.

Tell me something I don't know. Why did all the robots have to be so cute.
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>>172183263
What?
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>>172179004
The NEETbot in the village is still alive if I remember right.
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>>172183310
what a silly hoe
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>>172183409
If you have shockwave, you kill him
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>>172183310

post pictures of her that have been posted on the internet then liar.
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>>172183336
go on top of the goliath tank in the park and there should be a prompt. I think you can only do it once since I can't do it again
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>>172183321
>Why did all the robots have to be so cute.
It's the only way Taro could make you feel bad about killing them, duh.

Besides, robots are all networked and can be rebuilt, so it's not like you actually did anything permanent or committed an actual crime

>>172182090
>you should have controlled yourself but instead you saw a machine and you pressed/clicked
The lockon system in this game does not lend itself toward self control.
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>>172182297
Not making a decision is a decision in and of itself, and the consequences of that become abundantly clear when you do actually try to walk away.
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>>172183409
Not after I shoved my spear through that door
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>>172182997
>erasing was a mercy
No anon.
Hes purposefully designed to do the same shit over again and the new network will pop out the same villagers for him and he'll find out what a core is and that he sold a childs core to you eating him alive and the network will also come back for his villagers someday again and he'll recognize the corpses previously for the new villagers and just be left with questions and now either es back to major suffering or suicide unless some asshat like you comes along and preps him for another round like some shitty Emil clone. Killing him is the truest mercy you could do as he already gave up his agency to you whether you like kt or not.
Even suicide option is less of a shit option despite you just forcing more despair leading up to it.
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If 9S and 2B were immune to the magic plothole Taro virus that killed all the robots because they weren't connected to the server, how could they warp back to the bunker by killing themselves and still have their memories?

How did 2B then get infected?
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I need a Caim Costume for 2B with an Angelus-themed Pod Skin
Or Zero skin for A2 with Mikhail Pod skin
Or Kaine skin for 9S and a floating Emil Head Pod skin
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>>172183480
Aren't passive robutts disconnected from the network? If so, Anon is a murderer and he should suffer and feel bad.
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>>172183336
>>172183478

here's a pic if you are curious but don't want to load the game
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>>172183653
Oh right, but they can still be rebuilt as long as their cores are fine.

Either way he shouldn't feel bad. It's a buggy game.
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>>172183463
Is there some twitter or something i can sift through for this?
>>172183435
Its only gotten worse since the kid. I had to actually convince her to go to animedetour whereas usually she's physically vibrating with excitement by now.
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>>172183626
Uploading data / being synqued

9S didt connected when he saw the 1st glitch, and 2B was already infecrdd but 9S disconnected her which delayed the virus , pay more attention man
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>>172183110
>If pascal has a sin its the fact he instantly gave up his agency when shit got badder than bad which is even more tragic as we know he's proven capable of rising above strife in a world actively antagonistic against this.

Pascal has done enough, he absolutely did not deserve to suffer any longer.

I just want to protect that smile ;~;
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>>172183653
Being disconnect from the network is a meme
Their data. and actions are still connected to the Red Girls terminals
That's why even if they Adam "Disconnected himself" he still appears in ending D
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>>172183409
Oh and Sartre is probably alive if you did his quests.
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>>172183281
Everyone in the game is artificial, anon.
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>>172183650
I'd rather give Caim one to Nines.
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>>172183814
9S disconnected him and 2B at the same time. Pay more attention, man.
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Do you guys think the parade bots made it across the desert
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>>172181112
>consuming Taro media while in any state of emotional distress
If you want to dig yourself deeper sure, go for it.
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>>172183771

cosplay subreddits :^)

or post her facebook page
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>>172183480
> robots are all networked and can be rebuilt

Nooope. In the formation of N2, the network cut itself into a million separate pieces in order to diverge it's own evolutionary vectors. The machine personalities are a direct result of those pieces and those vectors. If you kill one of them, it's dead, end of story.
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>>172183032
They're a fun group.
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>>172183998
2B was already plugged dingus,S was not even connected, he stopes the process after the glitch
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>>172183914
Well, they're artificial but they behave like humans (or retarded child humans in the case of the robots) randomly whenever Taro feels like it.

So they're Schrodinger's Humans: Both human and non-human until dramatic requirements need one or the other.
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>>172184138
>So they're Schrodinger's Humans
XD
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>>172184049
Yeah, sure.
Except that they are still networked and monitored.
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>>172183032
They certainly worm their way into one's heart.
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>>172180638
>>172181112
Yeah, I've looked over all the drama CDs and novellas, and I don't remember anything about Kaine raping anyone that was still alive.
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>>172184049
Adam and Eve are both alive in the end, neither were killed despite being killed.
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Nobody else feels like Adam's Rant in R B is directed to the players and not 9S??
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Can they make babies though
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How do I cope with this withdrawal? I still got Witcher 3 finish but ever since I finished Automata I haven't had motivation to play anything else.
Send help.
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>>172184421
Yakuza 0
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>>172184040
>facebook
Its a personal one shes not a "for money" cosplayer she just liked the attention and dress and i honestly wonder if its like a fet thing.
>Subreddit
Is there a way to search by dates or 'Cons? I've never used reddit. If i could i might be able to find the group photo where she was satsuki.
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>>172183187
I'd like to know as well.

Also what's about ghost gal in the hangar?
Was it red dress?
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Am I missing something, what did beepy do wrong?
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>>172184138
No, they're explicitly a bunch of robots who are trying and failing to act human in an act of veneration to a race that managed to kill itself centuries earlier. That they sometimes act more or less human is because they're trying their best, but they have little to work off because the true humanity is gone forever.

You could contribute the themes here to coincidence and continue to call Taro a hack, but that makes you look like a retard because it was clearly an intentional choice.
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>>172184395
No. :(
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>>172184279
Great now i'm gonna have to search for that too.
>>172184456
That as good as i keep hearing it is?
>>172184020
I honestly was just doing a lazy read of wiki's while i tried to decompress and not seriously consider suicide and i just ended up walking down the wrong alleyway absentmindedly.
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>>172184234
But the personalities are dead.
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>>172184287
I was so busy hacking him nonstop that I don't even remember his rant. What was the gist of it?
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>>172184395
Nope
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>>172184456
I don't have a Ps4.
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>>172184018
>parade bots vs. sand machiggers
Nah
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>>172184664
It's better than you hear.
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>>172184702
Not the fight, but the whole chit chat with 9S during the memory recover part
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>>172184018
>goliath centipete
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>>172184620
>>172184737
2/10 not going to finish
tfw 2B calls 9S Nines
tfw at that moment you know one of them will die
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>>172184138
You're right but you must not criticize ndg's god.
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>>172184674
No see.
The personality of that robot is something like Pascal.exe and they ran that when they made Pascal. If Pascal No.1 dies they start up the works and run Pascal.exe again and out pops Pascal No.2.
They made them that way then pseudo cut them off from the network for its own purposes just like Adam and Eve weren't actually cut off.
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>>172184456
>>172184791
>tfw have a ps4 but no ps3 so still can't play any of the yakuza games

Fucking hell Sega, just but 1 - 5 on PS4 already.
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>>172184579
Some people are theorizing that his actions in Flame of Prometheus led to the machine network, which led to the alien machines evolving enough to attain consciousness.

On the bright side, that means Beepy's actions led to the machines overthrowing the aliens. But it also led to the world being overrun with war machines that were never meant to feel, putting them on a path of evolution through war and countless existential crises.
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I want to wash her nose.
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>>172184924
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>>172184018
>>172184812
>basically a robot gay pride parade in saudi arabia

rip
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>>172185013
I want to give her a hug and tell her everything will be okay.
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what does YoRHa stand for
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>>172185013

i want to wash her whole body. with my jizz
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>>172185125
I always figured it meant "YoRHa freaking idiot if you believe any of this BS"
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>>172185124
But everything isn't ok.
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>>172185234
A2 wouldn't like that.
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>>172185125

Young
or
Randy
Hot
androids
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>>172184949
I understand that, but making a copy of the baseline personality is just creating a new individual, it isn't bringing the dead one back to life.

In your example, Pascal No.1 is still dead, the personality that it developed based on the experiences it had has been killed, and Pascal No.2 is not the same because it has had different experiences.
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>>172184279
Kaine's jerked it off to a shade bloodbath, mentally repressed the screaming voices of dying shade children, used an innocent guy as bait to make a sympathetic shade drop her guard in a novella, and ravaged a guy's corpse in front of his little sister.

I think rape's one of the few things that she's not guilty of.
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>>172184956
We're getting a 1 remake soon.

>>172184615
Bullshit. This is not what "robots trying to act human but failing" looks like. You know that. I know that. We've both read stories that had this as a central theme rather than window dressing.

There is nothing inhuman about these robots. The androids act exactly like animu stereotypes. The robots act exactly like endearing retarded children. There is no pervading inhumanity about them, there is no sense that they are learning. The switch is always a 100% toggle between grasps humanity perfectly and robotic for the plot purposes.

The machines don't look or act or sound like machines when they come close and miss. They look like retarded loveable children.

You can pretend Taro was trying to explore humanity from the view of robots all you want but it's obvious he did an abysmal job of it. The only point where it is remotely effective as a theme was in the red girls fight.
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>>172184985
huh, that sounds plausible enough.
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>>172185462
If i torture you then erase your memory of it were YOU tortured?
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So sweet and pure.
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Did the game explain what fuel the androids are running on?
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>>172185725
Yes.
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>>172185540
There is plenty inhuman about the robots. Like the fact that they only act human about 50% of the time.

They're basically designed to malfunction in whacky ways. That is the entire point the divergent machine evolution. Stack N2 on top of that, and everything gets really fucky.
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>>172185767
Tears
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>>172185767
Water.
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>>172185767
The niggers have mini nuclear reactors inside of them
Aka The Buracku Boxu
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>>172185767
Older model androids run on water, but the YoRHa androids have power supplies very similar to the Machines' cores, which will run essentially forever via alien space magic.
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>>172185725
If I poke your toe while you're in deep sleep then did I poke YOUR toe?
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>>172184395
Yes
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>>172185946
I want to feed A2 with bottled water!
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>>172185821
Then its the same pascal being tortured.
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>>172185767
Unstable compact fusion reactors. Presumably Hydrogen or perhaps Deuterium/Tritium.
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>>172185767
Your tears.
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>Watching a stream
>He gets to the part where 2B chokes out 9S
>The streamer and chat just keep going "I DON'T UNDERSTAND HE'S NOT DEAD YOU CAN JUST MAKE ANOTHER HE'S A ROBOT xDDD"
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>>172185013
A2 needs a bath! What a filthy android!
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>>172186025
A2 is a subhuman yorha unit with a tapedeck for a heart, anon. She doesn't run on water, she's not a proper android.
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>>172185725
Poor analogy.

If you torture me, and then make an exact copy of me pre-torture, then obviously the copy didn't undergo that torture, did it? My self has been affected by the torture, but my copy's self has not. We are no longer the same person, but deviations branching from the same starting point.
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A2's stinky dirty smelly butthole
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tfw I just realised when 9S says "Why do I long for something that doesn't exist?" is refering to a lot of us.
fug
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>>172185536
>used an innocent guy as bait to make a sympathetic shade drop her guard in a novella
To be fair. The Little Mermaid shade was eating people. Like, she was still tragic and all, desperately trying to become human again, but Kaine wasn't just going out of her way to be a villain when she killed her.
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>>172186165
>Watching a stream

There's your mistake. If you wanna watch the story there is easy mode for you that plays the game for you.
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>>172186217
I'm a subhuman outcast too so we'll both get along.

A2! A2!! I love A2!!
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>>172186394
I beat the game day 3 you double nigger
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>>172186165
They're right, though. How do streamers have a better grasp of drama than Taro?
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What were your early theories on what was really going on /ndg/?
Once the first propaganda broadcast came down I started to wonder if YoRHa was inadvertently acting out an ancient radio play and that the Earth was just coincidentally awash with stupid looking robots that they could fight.
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>>172185946
I completely forgot about the black boxes being made out of machine cores. I just remembered the story quest for A2 getting the fuel filter from Pascal.

So technically, she needed a water filter.
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>>172186607
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>>172186378
Reminder that Yoko Taro is an otaku so this and "You're thinking about how badly you want to fuck 2B, aren't you?" thing are directed towards the audience in a way.

He feels our pain. Our longing for things that do not physically exist.
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>>172186665
The first Yorha androids were designed like the Resistance/Old World androids but since that point on they began using machine cores.
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>>172186730
>he thinks **** meant "fuck"
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>>172186809
So A2 is a real android while the later models are just reincarnated machines?
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>>172186730
>>he thinks **** meant "fuck"
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>>172186920
Yes A2 and the rest of her team were still regular androids. That's why she needs the water filter and stuff, I believe she's been alive for quite a while too.
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5 cute facts about A2:

- She's a girl!
- She's an android!
- I love her!!!!!
- A2!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>172186165
The androids basically kill themselves and create a copy every time they use a transporter to go somewhere. Why would I give a shit if any of them dies while the bunker is still up if they themselves don't give a fuck?
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>>172186730
>he thinks **** meant "fuck"
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>>172187069
Still not as cute as Two
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>>172187069
>5
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Does Nine Ess like choking?
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>>172187121
Wait, does it say anywhere how the transporters work? It could be legitimate teleportation rather than Trek style, otherwise.
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>>172187121
>The androids basically kill themselves and create a copy every time they use a transporter to go somewhere.
wrong
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>>172187069
>5
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>>172186730
>he think '****' meant 'fuck'
Come on, now.
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>>172187209
They specifically say when going to the bunker that their consciousness is transferred to a temporary body. I imagine that going between local transporters is similar.
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>child machine's overalls

Holy shit did they make them so cute so we can feel guilty blowing them the fuck out?
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>>172187306
>>172187135
>>172186993
>>172186859
It was left ambiguous on purpose so you can stop samefagging now.
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>>172187069
5 facts anon lives on.
>>
How many ending can you get when DevPop help you hack the tower?

[S] for running off.
One for not hacking the tower at all?
Was there a third?
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>>172187209
When the transporter first comes online 9S says it transfers your consciousness to a temp body at the destination. So I guess there are piles of lifeless 2Bs, 9Seses, and A2s tucked inbetween thousand year old bags of chips in all the uplinks.
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>>172187164
9S only enjoys being 2B's bitch
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>>172187231
Wrong because you think the transporters work by using literal teleportation or wrong because you're too stupid to understand why destroying a consciousness in one place and recreating it in another is not the same subjective experience for that consciousness as moving it between those two places?
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>>172187418
all me ;9
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https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/168677-nier-automata/74794736?page=2

People here are saying that Nier was resurrected as an android in ending E of the original Nier. Is there anywhere I can read a translation of E?
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>>172187358
>>172187460
Oh. Well, as long as the consciousness persists across the two shells, it's still not technically death.

Don't bring up sleep you fucks I swear to god
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>>172187563
>A translation
ESL?
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>>172187418
Nah m8.
We just know that in jap its less ambiguous and almost spells out Kill.
Its ambiguous cause that shit is as close to sex as androids get.
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>>172187563
Nier was reconstructed as the Last Replicant in Ending E of Nier not as an android. He still died from the Black Scrawl anyways, they all did.
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>>172187446
One for helping Devola and Popolo instead of going to the Tower.
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>>172187609
I won't bring up sleep but time is just a series of states occurring one after the other so really "you" only exist in the true present and the you from a nanosecond ago is dead :)
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>>172187609
>Oh. Well, as long as the consciousness persists across the two shells, it's still not technically death.
Interesting use of the word technically. What technical definition of death are you referring to?
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>>172187413
The basic machine shape is pretty cute in general.
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>>172187563
Yea go to the OP post and check in the Nier folder in the DG/NIER collection MEGA.
It's in the Grimoire Nier.
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>>172187609
But anon, that sounds a LOT like falling asleep and waking up! :^)
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>>172187048
>Yes A2 and the rest of her team were still regular androids.
>cmd: We've picked up a signal from the black box of a fugitive known as A2.
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>>172187762
Not really, every milisecond is a diferent dimension of yourself. Like imagine pictures, each second is one.
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>>172187763
What IS death?
If time is mere a series of states and we "die" every slice then are we every truly alive?
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>>172187841
Makes no sense then, she needed a filter from Pascal and only older androids need filters so yea.
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>>172187609
>Well, as long as the consciousness persists across the two shells, it's still not technically death.
This isn't a logically tenable position (especially since you already implicitly admitted that Star Trek teleportation necessarily includes death) but okay sure whatever you say.
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>>172187763
Biological or mechanical definition of death as opposed to the death of consciousness.

I only say technically because I personally don't believe the former should really be considered death at all unless it also includes the latter, but that's just my own beliefs, I wouldn't read too much into them.
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>>172187968
But Trekky teleportation includes death because it literally kills the consciousness and body of the participant.
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>>172187851
yeah so basically each moment of awareness is distinct from the previous and your current awareness is different from the previous.
It doesn't really matter though since we're just chemicals firing off in a complex stimuli response system governed by a permanent chain reaction called physics in a deterministic reality so free will and self are ultimately just illusions ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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After getting ending E I had to go back and play the final song again.
Still holds up, still my favorite game ending of all time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ph4f06Q5ItE
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Can gestalts be born out of nothing or is humanity doomed?
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>>172187767
4U.
>>172187851
But is time linear or even 2 directional in that sense is the past gone forever and the future perpetually nonexistent outside "now"?
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>>172187945
>A2 was the 1st gen of YorHa
Who are u to tell this independent Robutt womyn that she cannot use a fuel filter?
> only older androids need filters
Is this actually ever said tho?
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>>172188084
Humanity was doomed the second you killed Shadowlord and prevented the Gestalts from being able to recombine with their Replicant Shells.
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>>172187929
Given an infinity, everything can and will happen. So after we die, won't we just reappear an unfathomable many years later when something with our very same brain structure happens to come into existence?
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Yeah, but
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>>172188084
Doomed, but they were always doomed so dont feel too bad about it.
>>
http://waitbutwhy.com/2014/12/what-makes-you-you.html
really makes you think
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>>172188084
Doomed.
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>>172187929
The conception of what constitutes one's self is arbitrary. Likewise, notions of life and death are arbitrary.

>>172188160
>Given an infinity, everything can and will happen.
False premise.
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>>172187945
aren't all yorha models made out of machine cores? Also wasn't it pointed out in the novella that A2 was a new model type compared to the old resistance members whom needed the water?
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>>172188060
ending E?
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>>172186378
I long for hugs from 9S!
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>>172188160
Assuming the premise is correct then sure, but there's no sort of persistence of awareness so who cares?
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>>172188160
That presupposed infinity is even possible or existent.
For all we know there could he a clear border to the universe and if you recall the bit stretch is winning till nothing exists forever forgoing your stated possibility.
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>>172187971
If the biological or mechanical definition of death is the one you're referring to by use of the word "technically" then it would technically constitute death.
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>>172188320
Awareness isn't real in the first place, anon.

We're just biological machines. We're no better than the androids
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>>172188060
I swear I hated every moment of that song but afterwards shit it was such fitting ending to the game. trash
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OST when
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>get game
>start on Hard mode because I'm a real G
>Get to the first actual boss I assume which is a robot with the saw arms from the first 15 minutes
>Get one shot by the first swing because I wasn't expecting it
>Back to the start
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>>172188427
Of course but awareness is on the same "level" as caring so "who cares" still applies.
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>>172188136
Yea they say it somewhere that Resistance/Old World androids only need water to survive. Ah I think it's the food side quest guy.
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>>172188027
How can you say it kills the consciousness of the participant when the consciousness appears in exact replication elsewhere?
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>>172188320
What exactly is persistence of awarness?
Just remembrance?
You do know we keep maybe 30% of our day to day right? Is this still valid?
Is total amnesia death?
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>>172187418
It's fun to dogpile sometimes.
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>>172188149
So the genetic material stored in the moon is useless?
Also, one of the information archives mentioned the machine network absorbed data from a project gestalt server. So, in a way humanity lives inside the machines.
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Does 21O know about 9S being killed for knowing too much? They way that she tells him to be careful as he tries to follow up in the YoRHa betrayers quest really fired my neurons.
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>>172188538
who knows ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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>>172188427
>We're no better than the androids
Whoah man.

I know we're getting into heady topics but let's not say anything we're gonna regret later, okay? No better than machines, maybe, but no better than androids? C'mon now.
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>>172188283
I might be wrong then, but she still needed the filter nonetheless.
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>>172188269
Declaring that something is arbitrary is not grounds for dismissal, unless you're an idiot, sorry, I mean a nihilist.
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>>172188389
But I just declared that I don't consider biological/mechanical death to be true death, so the NieR teleporters don't technically kill you in that they only cause biological/mechanical death, and not the death of consciousness.
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>>172188478
3 days left till japan gets theirs and a whole month till we get ours.
>mfw we will never get translated world guide
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>>172187418
am i the last one
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>>172188427
Down that path lies solipsism. Let's not go there.
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>>172188515
You're in for a wild ride.
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>>172188647
operators retain their memories so yes, she knows how many times 9S has been killed
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>>172188640
Maybe you should finish the game first
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>>172188802
>futaba on /vg/
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>>172188084
>Can gestalts be born out of nothing

You mean like a machine core? :^)
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>>172188427
Someone is stimulatin' them synapses a little too hard there
Take a break my man
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>>172188853
I've gone far down this path and I've all but accepted it, anon.

Never got that much into solipsism, though. Even if we're just biological computers, that doesn't mean we're not worth anything or things in this world aren't beautiful.

You can only truly appreciate things when you acknowledge how brief and fragile they are.
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>>172188853
Solipsism is a perfectly valid philosophical conclusion
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>>172189003
Honestly I rather just ignore all that and think life is just about doing what you like. Like playing gud games.
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>>172188780
>It would not technically be death
>cite your technical definition of death
>biological or mechanical death
>it is biological or mechanical death and thus would technically be death
>No it would not technically be death by my own definition of death
Okay, it's not technically death by your own technical definition of death. lol

So Star Trek teleportation doesn't technically cause death by for the schmuck being teleported that's not going to make much of a difference 'cause he's still going to be disassembled at the molecular level.
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I fucking hate boars.
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>>172189105
This guy gets it
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>>172187418
N-notice me senpai!!!!!!!!!
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>>172173760
Sorry, went to go see Life. My friend dropped Route C because he's a Bioware/Mass Effect fanboy. The original friend is just a guy who can't finish vidya or anime.
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>>172188647
>>172188921
spooky.
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>>172188651
I have to work in a few hours and i gotta sit on this shit.
Why you do dis?!
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anyone rip the sound effects from automata? wanna dig through and make one of them my notification sound for my phone
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>>172188690
Declaring that something is arbitrary is not a dismissal, unless you're an idiot.
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>>172185742
Any translations?
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>>172189265
Is it the cry 2B makes as you self destruct?
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>>172189191
Was a pretty gud movie that one, also how someone prefers Andromeda over Nier is just crazy.
The Original Three? I agree but this new pile of garbage whehw.
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What do you guys think about "11B's Memento"? Why are the results for each option near opposite?
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>>172173923
spear of ursurper
you can turn a machine into an ally with it
reminds me of that meme from some rts about a priest who can convert enemy units
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>>172189105
Welcome to existential nihilism.
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>>172189105
Absurdism always struck me as the most rational basis for a person's beliefs, though not the only one.
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If android cores are essentially machine cores, then what were Popola and Devola made with given they were created before the alien invasion?
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>>172189159
Are you purposely misinterpreting me

Biological death is not actual death. Conscious death is actual death. NieR teleport does not cause conscious death. Therefore, NieR teleport does not cause actual death.

Trek teleportation causes both biological and conscious death. Therefore, Trek teleportation causes actual death.

Jesus christ.
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>>172189614
YorHa are made from machine cores, not the other androids.
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>>172189407
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>>172189313
Looked like a dismissal to me given that it had no substance to it other than the declaration that things are arbitrary.
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>>172189614
Non-YoRHa androids are water powered.
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I let it delete my save at the end I didn't think it'd actually do it what the hell do I do now just start over?
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>>172176457
machines don't bleed so Zero can't go super saiyan though, how disappointing
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>>172189684
>Are you purposely misinterpreting me
I didn't misrepresent the course of the conversation. You contradicted yourself.

>Trek teleportation causes both biological and conscious death.
Not by your definition of conscious death.
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>>172189367
No, I was just thinking the sound when you pick up an item/material.
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>>172188523
>>172189794
Black boxes are a fusion reactors, they run on water too.
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>>172189794
will they make it this time?
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>>172188286
the [E]nd of yorha
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>>172189745
Oh.

Well, why are only YoRHa made from machine cores?
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>>172189890
>warns you not once but multiple times this shit WILL happen
>I didn't think it would happen!
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>>172188478
>>172188787
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/SQEX-10589
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>>172190120
Because they thought it would be unethical to sacrifice a bunch of sapient androids.

oops
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>>172190140
I didn't say I was smart I just thought it was bluffing
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>>172189393
>11B's Memento
It's hard to say.

Is the truth of 11B's desertion warping 16D's memories of a flawed but genuinely loving person into something unfairly negative?

Or is lying to 16D just manipulating her into remembering an abusive lover in an unrealistically positive way?

I went with telling her the truth in the end. Because I didn't like the idea of 11B going into combat and dying for the sake of someone who was willing to abandon her despite their relationship.
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>>172189549
I feel you. There are things in life that we'll never truly comprehend, and it's kinda absurd to try because it's not like it makes a difference in how we have to live our lives.

Shit, I remember trying to read Eugene Ionesco for a theatre class in high school.
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>>172190120
The other androids were made before the aliens shat machines all over the Earth
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>>172189373
Yeah, I loved the ending. I can see how someone can be blind to the flaws of Andromeda (it happened to me with Colonial Marines until I actually played). Truthfully me and the friend who got me into Drakengard/Nier were surprised this friend bought Nier to begin with. And I could always tell he didn't "get it" if that makes sense. He was barely phased by Route C's intro
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>>172190210
Did you ever play the original Nier?
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>>172190215
Typo.

Meant to say that I didn't like the idea of 16D going into combat and dying over a lie.
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What exactly was the moon base's end game?
Why did they need data collection?
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>>172190292
No but I don't have a system for it unless they remaster. Fingers crossed.
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>>172190201
So they didn't think the YoRHa units would be sapient because they didn't think the machines were sapient?

Holy fuck.
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>>172190365
I ask because That's also an option in the final ending of Nier. If you ever play it, have fun.
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>>172190383
I think that's the subtext I got out of it too.
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>>172190215
I think it's basically a Schrodinger's cat of a quest result. Or whatever. Basically that if you told her 11B was a deserter, their relationship was always an abusive one. But if you tell her nothing then they were always lovers.
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>>172189915
Where the actual fuck is this imaginary contradiction you are seeing.

Biological death is not death.
Mechanical death is not death.
Consciousness death is death.
Teleportation which causes the first/second but not the third does not cause death
Teleportation which causes the third is death, regardless of whether it also causes the first/second

From what I can tell, you misread my second post in this conversation and decided I considered biological/mechanical death to be true death, and then misinterpreted everything from there based on that misreading.
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>>172190383
>yfw it is actually beepy's fault
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why do people use the engine blade?
Its ability is only cosmetic right?
Also has anyone actually farmed enough to get a max level diamond chip?
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>>172190358
Because someday maybe some magical break through will happen and humans will be a thing.
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>>172190358
End game was to win the war.

Data collection was to use new information to keep improving new lines of combat units. Like how A2 and her squad were sent on a suicide mission to collect the data that helped HQ build 2B.
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>>172190383
Yup. And thus is the central message of the nier franchise: sapience was a mistake.
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>>172189407
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tBqdKGiqnI
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>>172190525
Ergo Trek teleportation does not cause death by the technical definition you've crafted for yourself.
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>>172190478
Could also legit be both.
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>>172190532
who the hell do you guys keep referring to as beepy

it's a cute name
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>>172190383
Hadn't thought of it that way, but it makes sense.

Man, it's sort of a case of fucking everybody being in the wrong, isn't it?
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>>172190120
>>172190201
That whole decision is one of the more retarded twists
>I wanna make droids built to die and suffer
>So I'm gonna use machine parts so it won't be fucked up!
>So how does that make 'em different from other droids?
>It doesn't really, they just use a different power source
>Isn't that kinda worse since it makes them similar to what they have to kill?
>Uhhhhh..... NO!
They should have just said they didn't want to use good parts in disposable contraptions
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>>172190383
Yeah. They could tell themselves that they weren't killing fellow androids, they were just killing repurposed enemies in the name of science.
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>>172190678
A man cursed by God
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>>172189347
>>172185742
You're looking at that again 6O?

Of course!
No matter how many times I look at it I never get tired!

The photo data 2B got for me is my treasure.

Good grief...
Don't forget about your regular check-ins though.

Yea!
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>>172190383
They knew.

>Each YoRHa unit is equipped with a "black box," an item created by reusing the core of a machine lifeform.
>As such, it could be said that the consciousnesses of YoRHa units and machine lifeforms share the same structure.
>Said black boxes were installed after determining that it would be inhumane to install standard AI in androids that are ultimately destined for disposal.
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>>172190657
But Trek teleportation causes the death of all three.

Nothing I have said contradicts itself.
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>>172190747
>Isn't that kinda worse since it makes them similar to what they have to kill?
>Uhhhhh..... NO!
They don't give a shit about this because they're all going to be destroyed anyway and they don't have feelings.
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>>172190525
correct me If I'm wrong but transporting is achieved by moving an android's consciousness from one body to another
but A2 only has one body so is her ability to transfer just a gameplay concession?
Also someone draw 2B and 9S with their bodies swapped due to their minds being uploaded into the wrong body
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>>172190678
Hes an EVIL HEARTLESS ROBOT AND HE NEEDS TO DIE
KILL THEM ALL
KILL ALL THE ROBOTS
EVERY
SINGLE
ONE
DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>172190383
>>172190464
The game smacks the player in the face from the very outset with themes of construing a group as inherently inferior because it is politically or strategically expedient and you're acting surprised that it comes up again? Fuuuuck this general is dumb.
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What if Nier let you play both replicant and gestalt versions throughout the story and at the end you get to choose who to side with, who would you chose?
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>>172190874
That doesn't say that they knew they were sapient. Conciousness is not the same thing as sapience.
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>>172185742
>>172190849
fug
poor 6O

Why couldn't you give her a flower instead of just a photo? you could have picked it up from her body at the start of C
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>>172190383
>>172190464
If they didn't think they were sappient, why would they give them emotions like their devotion to mankind or create posts that require intelligence like operators or commanders?
Don't be dumb anon.
>>172190893
>and they don't have feelings
Anon...
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>>172190876
>trek teleportation causes all three
How so
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>>172190893
>they don't have feelings

They weren't supposed to be but they clearly did. In the final battle between A2 and 9S 9S clearly states that he doesn't understand why he still longs for 2B when she no longer exists.
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>>172190919
>tfw Gideon is the true mastermind behind Yorha.
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>>172190657
Trek Teleportation is an irrelevant example once you're already dealing with anything remotely digital.

We already have a digital version of "Trek teleportation" anyway: Moving a file from one device to another.
The file is copied and the original is destroyed.
And we have no problem wrapping our heads around the idea that it's still the same file.

It's just that it feels uncomfortable to apply a digital frame of reference to what we're used to treating as a purely physical question.
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>>172190953
Uh

I flip a coin. They're both pretty much on par, morally. That is to say, completely fucked.
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>>172190919
Forgot my picture, which was pretty hard since I downloaded it just for this post.
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>>172190919
What a cunt.
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>>172190919
Go to bed, Yuri.
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>>172191037
This is the part where you say that copy + paste + delete is the same as cut + paste, right?

I see where you're coming from now, at least, but I don't see eye to eye with you.
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>>172191034
>>172191043
Obviously they had feelings, I'm talking about the command's perspective.

>>172191034
>If they didn't think they were sappient, why would they give them emotions like their devotion to mankind or create posts that require intelligence like operators or commanders?
These are things you program an android to do. That doesn't require sapience.
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>>172191043
He was talking about humanity.
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>>172190849
Aw.

Thanks anon.
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regarding the 'you want to *** 2B' line
it's likely one of those jap things where a word is spelled one way and pronounced another, that is to say that the word is both fuck and kill so there;s no need to argue about it
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>>172190876
You idol, then by those stupid definitions we die every night in our sleep or when we nap.

What happens when someone is blackout drunk or I fall asleep during a lecture?
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where the fuck is the sister
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>>172191327
why is your 9S a basketball american?
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>>172191034
>Something that you have been instinctively programmed and indoctrinated to feel
>Unambiguous sapience
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>>172191253
this is a fear I sometimes have
am I still myself? I have no way of knowing
in a way forgetting memories is also like having bits of yourself die
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>>172191327
hiding behind one of the rocks that're right in front of you!
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>>172191063
>Trek Teleportation is an irrelevant example once you're already dealing with anything remotely digital.
False.

>We already have a digital version of "Trek teleportation" anyway: Moving a file from one device to another.
It's almost as if there's some kind of analogy here.

>And we have no problem wrapping our heads around the idea that it's still the same file.
I have no problem "wrapping my head" around what we're discussing.

If you needed to go somewhere and I offered to shoot you in the head, totally dispose of the body and gore, and then create an exact replica of you wherever you needed to be, what would your response be?

It's the same file, right? So why should you give a shit, right?
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Who are the android illuminati, and what is their endgame? Is emil the leader?
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>>172191069
I think Papa Nier was inherently a good person in the end.

Just very, very, single-minded in his methodology and not wanting to see anything beyond the immediate goal of protecting the people he cared about.
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>>172191426
except she's not
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>>172191156
I'm neither a trek guy nor the guy you're talking to, but I'm curious. Star trek teleporters don't actually move the molecules, they just recreate them at a different location?
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>>172191502
Yeah so you could end up with 2 Rikers
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>>172191327
9(inch)S and already rolling with a hottie.
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>>172191502
When you ascend to real nigga status you'll understand why even that distinction is meaningless.
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>>172191218
>create posts that require intelligence like operators or commanders?
>That doesn't require sapience.
Do we have the same definition of sapience and it being intelligence?
>>172191423
The original YorHa were always meant to have emotions.
A4 was supposed to care about her teammates and be cheery to raise morale.
The Minds behind Yorha are just dicks.
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>>172191494
follow the wall a bit and keep looking around the rocks, iirc she's between a couple rocks.
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>>172191440
My response would be that if your disposal technology is so fucking primitive, I don't think you actually have the capability to send me anywhere.

If you told me to go to a teleporter and reminded me that I would be physically disassembled and would be essentially trusting established and tested technology/infrastructure to recreate me on the other end, I'd be cool with it.
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>>172191471
He did the wrong thing for the right reason.
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>>172191459
We've been over this!
THEY are.
They make the rules, They give the orders, They sip on whiskey and smoke cheap cigars. They.
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>>172191636
>The Minds behind Yorha are just dicks.

That doesn't explain why they would switch over to machines cores over what they were currently using, in androids, though.
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>>172191502
>they just recreate them at a different location?
So they're not the original -- even more reason to assume the original is killed.
To everyone outside (and the new copy), it will be as if you are the same, but you yourself at that moment has ceased to exist.
In GitS terms, your ghost is destroyed, and the new shell is without a ghost.
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>>172191471
Good person or not, he didn't really have a lot of options by that stage, and the absolute best option he had relied on the Prisoner's Dilemma and thus was unusable.
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>>172191471
iirc Nier realized he was murdering innocent people at one point but told himself it doesn't matter id it's for Yonah
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>>172191636
>The Minds behind Yorha are just dicks.
But the alien are long dead, anon.
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>>172191708
Perfect response, thank you. You refused one method because it was undeniable that you'd be killed (while pretending to refuse it for some other contrived reason), but accepted another method because you could equivocate around the fact that it would also functionally murder you.
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>>172191645
she literally did not spawn
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>>172191856
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>>172191636
Wisdom and discernment, not intelligence. And no, it doesn't require sapience, it requires a rulebook and programming that tells you to follow it. Not to mention the fact that YorHa was never meant to be successful, so the idea that the operators and commanders were supposed to be competent at their jobs is an assumption.
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>>172191797
That was my point here.
>>172190747
It really doesn't make much sense, since the design of their power source really shouldn't define their thought process or emotions.
>>172191896
>But the alien are long dead, anon
And that is relevant to the point at hand because? .
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>>172191949
Not the anon you're replying to, but I would recommend reloading your save
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>>172191253
Your consciousness is just minimised while you sleep, it doesn't go away. You still dream. You still move forward with the world.

I'm talking zero brain activity.
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>>172191817
>GiTS
But thats wrong.
If you actually watched the show your Ghost is your consciousness and motoko and Laughing Man shit all over the pre-established idea that its solely attached to an organic brain or even a single entity once you're cyberized and digitized.
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>>172191949
BRAVO PLATINUM
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>>172191603
>>172191625
Yeah, I'm with whining death anon, fuck that shit. That's literally the plot of The Prestige.
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>People are freaking out thinking AIs will be some nuclear human-destroying ultramonsters
>So few stop to care about the real issue, which is humans fucking up so bad ethically in the process of developing AI that we truly show how unworthy we are
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>>172187121
He said it nigger, the S9 data at that time in the bunker was the S9 you meet when you wake up after the prologue mission

He refused to upload the current data cause Even Corruption
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>>172191951
Because shadowlord, tyrann, and 2 magically books plus those servers told him so?
Nier everytime realized lategame that shit was wrong but he buckled down everytime for his yonah cause to him that was all that mattered at that point.
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The android cabal used machine cores to satisfy their morality not because it made real sense
a very human thing to do
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>>172192017
>That was my point here.

I'm just saying, we're looking for a reason as to why they would switch over to machine cores for YoRHa, and the belief that the machine cores aren't sentient at least provides a reason. They wouldn't just switch for no reason.
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>>172192056
I disagree with the puppet master
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>>172191915
Okay, my only good example is from Soma with the body switching.

There, it's actually inhumane to not kill the original. But that's an easier situation because none of those people are biologically alive and the consequences are more clear cut, a near eternity trapped in a dead station at the bottom of the ocean.

I'm almost horrified that Connie didn't automatically switch off the original copies of the guy whenever he had to switch bodies, just to avoid traumatizing him with something he wasn't ready to deal with.
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>>172191856
All I remember of that was during the Forest of Myth section, he said something about not caring if a shade could speak or not. If they were in his path he'd cut them down.

And there was a small moment of emotional clarity right before he cut down the Shadow lord, but it looked like he shook it off, trying not to let himself think too hard about it.
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>>172192176
And?
At the end of the day does it matter which you is (you)? What exactly is the difference between you and your new you when you're exactly identical? Does it even matter when you, and the rest of the universe, won't even notice your iterations ceasation? Does it even matter?
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Perfect DLC skins
9S: Little Master Emile/ Nier Big Brother
2B: Kaine/ Commander White Suit
A2: Zero/ Cain
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>>172192017
>Dicks
Is joke.
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>>172192446
>Does it matter if you die
wow man deep
really plumbing the depths of philosophy there
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>>172192446
It does if my current consciousness ceases to be. That is death in every meaning of the word. The person who comes out on the other side is not ME. So maybe this won't matter to him, but it certainly does to me for the same reasons that death matter at all.
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NEW THREAD PLEASE
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>>172192526
Oh god they really are dicks. For fuck's sake.
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>>172192579
so every time you sleep you die?
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>>172192358
I mean Catherine. I'm an idiot.
It's been a while
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>>172191949
Does the model freeze when you try to run?? If it so the game got bugged and some assestds will not load
Reload a save file and it will fix it
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>people actually talking about philosophy instead of 2B's butt
where am I?
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>>172192526
>one is uncircumcised
TRUE ART
>>172192671
No? My consciousness doesn't cease to be when I go to sleep.
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>>172192694
Not /v/
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>>172192276
EVERYDAY'S A SALE
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>>172192339
Disagree all you want but you'd be wrong. They straight up show its just a digital footprint when you cyberize and can be copied and pasted and deleted like any other file and it doesn't even matter what iteration makes it out alive ultimately. Its an actual established plotpoint and motoko just blasts right past it with a "so what?".
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>>172192694
2B's butt inspires contemplation of life itself.
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>>172191471
>>172191856
I think it ties into his "Don't look back" mantra.

For Nier, saving Yonah hinges completely on fighting the shades. It's the only hope he has left. So even if entire villages like the Aerie are destroyed in the crossfire, he has to keep moving forward. If he allows himself to stop and regret than everything would have been for nothing.
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Man playing the original Nier now I'm really enjoying it overall but it's a shame it looks like utter fucking ass on a technical level, I think the design of it all is really great. The rumored remaster would be nice just for being able to do the aesthetics justice.
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>>172192241
Yeah, I get that.
But my idea is that, the machines cores having sentience or not, must have not been the deciding point in using them since the Yorha units were always meant to be sentient and emotional as proven by the older Yorha models like A2, A4 and the Commander even.
Between the way older Androids like Anemone and Yorha models behave, there is no real difference that would make the existence of Yorha ethical, unless the sole fact of using machine core was deemed more appropriate regardless of it lacking any real effects besides not needing water anymore.
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>>172192632
WELCOME TO YOKO TARO'S WILD RIDE
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>>172192694
>2B's butt

This is good and all, but we really, really need to talk about A2's midrift.
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>>172192806
http://nierautomata.wiki.fextralife.com/Cruel+Arrogance
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tl;dr
only A2 remains her original self, everyone else is just a copy
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>>172192820
I think it holds up alright. Especially compared to Drakengard 1 and 3.

But I wouldn't be opposed to seeing it Remastered.
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How do i only have 50% novels after getting ending E?
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>>172192671
This is a bullshit point because the limit of what constitutes actual consciousness is also subjective, and to many people, sleeping does not break the stream because though it is subdued, the conscious thought IS objectively still there. It's not a binary state.
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>>172192579
>>172192542
But you don't a freshfaced you pops out the other side and doesn't miss and step.
Theres even an argument for there being no cessation of consciousness as the new you won't have noticed a thing.
Its arguably what happens when you shed your previous self a second ago for the new present you. That last second iteration will have died but that doesn't matter or is even notice by current you.
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>>172192991
That's good and all, but we really really need to talk about how thicc the Commander is.
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>>172193084
The new me is NOT ME. If it's possible for there to be two Rykers, they are NOT THE SAME PERSON.
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I just want art of loli 9S
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>>172192991
Yo.
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>>172193084
It would be better if you just outed with your point of "what you consider you, life, and death are all arbitrary and meaningless" instead of continually stretching the word "death" the way you've been doing.
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>>172193084
I'd argue that the difference between copy paste and cut paste is an important consideration, anon.

At the end of the day this argument has been ongoing for literally centuries and I don't think we'll reconcile it here, but it's been fun talking philosophy with you guys.
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NEW BREAD
>>172193429
>>172193429
>>172193429
>>172193429
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>>172193429
>>172193429
>>172193429
>>172193429

New thread
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>>172193214
>2S and 9B

I'd buy the skins and voice packs.
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So S units are really the ones in charge, doing recon, solving problems, etc. B/E units are really only there as grunts to provide combat backup, and to kill their assigned S unit if they ever discover the truth. Is this correct?

And if so, does this mean 2B already knew the truth? If so, why is it fine for her to know and not 9S? Why wouldn't they also wipe her memory of the truth after the S unit is killed and wiped?
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>>172193180
But at that exact moment they ARE THE SAME RIKER.
You're ultimately just a footprint on reality and your existence merely a placeholder.
Again, theres not even a break of consciousness as the new you, the one that continues, won't have noticed a break in conciousness and the old you won't even have noticed its end.
Unless you're making an argument for a soul your view is invalid and even if you are making that argument whos to say the soul wouldn't just move to the new you or even be copied.
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>>172193775
Then you're saying that death doesn't matter, and I wholeheartedly disagree.
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>>172192991
Underrated.
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