/ndg/ - Nier/Drakengard General #29

But we were supposed to become as gods.

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Reminder

I see you have taken the future for yourself.

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Oi!
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>>171945787
Angelus is male.

Angelus belongs to Caim!

>>171946061
>Angelus is male.
lol

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>>171945971
She deserved better.
Also, world guide scans when?

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>mfw Emil's Head weapons say that he saw a girl in black 477 years later. 2B or A2 are still alive

My question is, is YoRHa repeating itself or did the new models come out already and 2B, like A2 earlier, a fugitive model?

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The only good Four

>scalefag gets his new thread up seconds before I hit post on my BECOME AS GODS themed general

this is even sadder than ending E

>>171946282
kek, sorry bro

>>171946282
I wanted twins to save the day myself. At least we know these threads won't go anytime soon.

>>171936150
>>171946309
The blindfold dehumanizes them. It comes off when they are at their most human.

Let's talk soundtracks. Which song was your favorite some each, and which game had the best?

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Is this typical Taro trope?
Angelus - female with male voice
Pascal - male with female voice

>Literally everybody in the game is of same sex, if not sexless
>Why is everybody so gay?

Really makes me think

>>171946507
>male with female voice
this happens literally everywhere not just video games made by taro exclusively

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>>171946282
There is always next thread to jump off from.

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>made a new thread
You shouldn't have done this. It's not what the original OPfag would have wanted.

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>>171946507

I'd say the theme between them is that machine lifeforms and dragons are canonically non-gendered but have a choice of leaning one way or the other.

>>171946731
>It's not what the original OPfag would have wanted.
Not only was he indifferent, but literally who gives a shit?

>>171946698
never, THIS MUST CONTINUE

>>171946731
But that's major bullshit. He wanted to go A-Z by his own and didn't care about the rest.

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>>171946842
>general gets worse after Z
makes me think

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>>171946446
>The blindfold dehumanizes them. It comes off when they are at their most human.
Dont take shit literally man.

1 Blindfolds are sexy. It's the primary reason they exist in the game. Blindfolds make cocks hard.
2 Blindfolds symbolize ignorance. They are kept in the dark and they dont know what's going on until they find out and take them off.
3 For people who ask stupid questions theres a stupid answer THEY ARE FUCKING VR GOGGLES, they only look like blindfolds but actually they work like goggles that show them shit.
But that indeed is only an excuse.

>>171946960
>worse
explain

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>>171946979
>Blindfolds are sexy.
>Blindfolds make cocks hard.

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GLORY TO HUMANITY

>>171946979
>VR GOGGLES
AR actually

>>171947187
I LIKE MEN

>>171946979
>Dont take shit literally man.
What?

>2 Blindfolds symbolize ignorance. They are kept in the dark and they dont know what's going on until they find out and take them off.
But the blindfolds come off multiple times throughout the game, most of which involved no revelations.

Think about - 2B waking up on the Bunker, after the Eve fight when they have their intimate murder-sex moment, when 9S goes fucking crazy, when A2 stopped being a mindless soldier and became independent.

The only one of those that involves them finding out what's going on is A2.

>>171946960
I cannot deny the possibility.
However, the possibility of a different future also exists.

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2B is LEWD!

Nier did nothing wrong, it's not his fault that the shades and the Shadowlord are total retards that can't into non-verbal communication.

Machines > Shades

>>171947580
Nier and Caim > all
Do what the fuck you want and don't let anything stop you.

>>171947303
9S went crazy because he got redpilled

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>>171945787
I just finished that 9S/A2 route and apparently got D ending, I chose 9S in the final fight, they both died and then I chose to join adam and eve on the ark. I guess I have to choose A2 to see the C ending, is that correct? So, the question is, how do I get to E ending? I only have options to play chapters and start the game all over again, but already with good levels and equipment.

>>171947838
He didn't, though. In fact, it was kind of the opposite.

He went crazy upon seeing A2 kill 2B, and arguably didn't actually understand what he was seeing.

>>171947894

Complete the C ending and say yes to the prompt.

guys, I talked to emil with a2 and been trying to reset his position to the resistance camp several times but hes always at the desert, am I doing something wrong? trying to get him to sell his stupid fucking weapons..

>>171947894
Why are you here asking this and not getting ending C?

What is wrong with you people?

>>171947580
>it's not his fault that the shades and the Shadowlord are total retards that can't into non-verbal communication.
Don't forget that the Devola and Popola of Nier's village could've don't a much better job of trying to preventing the extinction of all humanity.

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>>171946979
>Your eyepatch houses an artificial compound eye unit.
>The unit contains over 200 million solid-state image sensors, each with its own individual lens.

>>171947991
even if he understood what he was seeing I don't think his reaction would be much different

SO. Drakengard 3. Just finished Branch C.

Yeah, this is a troll game. Yoko Taro is jerking me around, and the goddamn FLOWER is apparently the real villain or some shit because why the fuck not. This is starting to feel like a satire of anime, Deviantart, and the ending of the Clue movie.

>Lost Verses
... Okay, asshole, I'll play. You got me by the balls now, I gotta see where this shit is going.

>One actually confirms that Zero's edginess is more or less an act
I fucking love Zero so much.

Was the reason A2 went rogue ever directly explained in-game, or are we meant to assume that she found out about Project YoRHa? Or was it explained in that stage play?

>>171947749
>lol american foreign policy and a degenerate tapeworm > all
>Actively make the world worse and steal the strength of superior beings and don't let anything stop you

Shadowlord did everything wrong.
He should have killed Nier and had the twins clone another replicant for him.

>>171947991
He went even crazier and took off blindfold after being revealed the truth about Yorha

>>171947894
Why dont you just play the fucking game and find out holy shit

>>171948210
Stage play, but I believe there's also an entry in the terminal near Anemone.

>>171948215
>don't do what you want, do what I want you to do
No thanks schlomo.

Looks like A2 can still perform some light hold attacks by barely holding the button and letting go before the taunt kicks in. Can only get it to work on bracers and small swords tho.

>>171946061
HA!

>>171948210
>Was the reason A2 went rogue ever directly explained in-game
Subquest to unlock terminal behind Anemone. It has whole story.

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reminder google is behind YoRHa

>>171946507
>Angelus - female with male voice
???

>>171946175
Who knows. We had an argument earlier and both sides made a point but it seems shits going to relapse as they're all ultimately running off predetermined programs and shits just on autopilot now with no one left to hit the brakes.

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>>171948564
It tells the story of Pearl Harbor and how most of them died.
I don't see how that explains how A2 deserted.

>>171948597
It's actually male with male voice. Caim is a fag.

>>171948195
>tfw still stuck on the end of branch D
Just you wait

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>>171948652
>/pol/ making 'le ironic false-flag troll'

>>171946698
>actually tried to break down the fence
>hear more in the distance thinking i could save just a few more than that one bunch
>more fence
Its like my childhood all over again... ;_;

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>>171948597
>>171948683
Angelus is female, anon.

>>171946731
BS. Even left off with him saying he was okay if someone else did it his journey was done.
He ending E'd so we could continue.

>>171948564
So additional info in the story and archives. It all adds up.

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Does anyone have any Nier wallpapers? Both Replicant/Gestalt and Automata ones are fine.

>>171948803
Where the fuck did anon get the idea that Angelus had a "male" voice? That was my poorly implied question?

>>171948652
>downrating an amazing game so you can post le so funny ironic falseflag review
/pol/ is a cancer.

>>171948579
Beating the intro on hard is literally the most difficult task in a hardmode playthrough (not counting the customary time-vampire tasks that all these games are so heavily laden with) so if the guy is playing on hard then he has a fair point.

>>171948946
As if there's even the slightest chance of that review hurting Square and Platinum's bottom line or being the critical turning point in influencing even a single sale.

>>171948946
>thinking the steam ratings system matters let alone has any worth
literally lol

>>171948658
A2 managed to survive the suicide misssion,

Probably she didn't get hit by EMP and fought off the zombie Yorha.

You can survive it too by running away and getting an [O] ending.
>just me and yOu
>they were fine

>>171949043
>>171949065
it's the thought that counts

If I Delete my save files after ending E does it delete all 3 save file or just the ones with my name? My friend has played about 6 hours in on one of my other slots and I'm not sure if I should make him start over with another profile.

>>171949108
Then think before you post next time.

>>171947151
Try it, m8. You or her. Its weird but it make shit fun when you, or them, don't know what the other one is doing or going to do but they get to know exactly whats what.
Its like powerplay and role reversal in a really vanilla fashion.

>>171949154
Everything

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>>171949108
what did he mean by this

>>171948897
Is there a "fucking Machines/A2" version of this with 9S?

>>171948898
https://youtu.be/2KQpy2HCc4I?t=1m34s

>>171949154
just back up your saves who gives a shit

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>>171948210
A2 went rogue because N2 told them what was happening and that they were on a suicide mission to die for data. On top of that her lover (A4) exploded her nuclear reactor to save her. A2 felt betrayed by command.

>>171949279
>unironically being the worst kind of person
>encouraging this poor behavior in others
You're bad and you should feel bad.

>>171948732
Oh I eagerly await whatever other insane nonsense this game has yet to throw at me.

But really, am I alone in loving Zero? She's downright adorable! But then, I'm that one person ever who likes Raiden because I find most tryhard characters kind of endearing.

>>171949264
this, literally male voice, but is a female

>>171949463
I'm enjoying my nifty new title screen and intact saves, thanks.

>>171949361
>N2
Why N2?
Machine Network makes MN or what?
Why are you referring to it as N2?

>>171949505
All of the characters in D3 have their moments but dialing the overuse of their shticks back a couple notches would've gone a long way towards making the writing better.

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>>171949615
That's what Jackass calls them. N2 (NieR 2).

>>171949615
It used Niers gestalt data to make the entity.
Literally a Nier2.

>>171949264
Kinda what I thought then.

Well,
>Dragons
>ain't gotta splain shit

But then again.
>Anon being such a weeb to play JP DoD1
>Still asking silly questions


Same thing still goes for Pascal
>Robot
>Not directly made in a human image, beyond basic body structure
>Not even made by anything associated with humanity
>Expecting human gendered vocal patterns
>ain't gotta splain shit

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>>171949505
Zero is one of the best, especially once you learn her full pre-Flower backstory.

>>171949929
Why do this stupid fucking dance when the explanation for Pascal's voice is "using female voice actors for prepubescent sounding males is common throughout the whole of voice acting"?

>>171949861
How the hell does Nier data translate into two evil hologram lolis?

>>171949728
Nier always wanted to be a little cute girl ever since he became a prostitute.

>>171949929
>not made by anything associated with humans
Machine lifeforms are turned out by taken over Human factories. Pascal might have been a seriously early model as it lacks the Emil head.

>>171950079
I want to watch Kaine put Zero in a mating press and pound her way into Zero's heartpussy

>>171950241
>implying Zero won't reverse mating press Kaine and drain her futacock dry

>>171950340
Is Kaine's sperm powerful enough to impregnate a dead girl?

>>171950142
Lemme break down how 80% of the questions will go here beyond conjecture and theory craft.

Ask question, yoko taro, b-but why?!, yoko fucking taro, but that doesn't explain shit!, exactly., wait 6 months, new material like DLC/drama cd's/novellas come out, fill in half the questions with answers, fill the new void with more questions, ask question, yoko taro, .....

Can someone post the comic of Adam saying he'll steal 9S' first kiss?

>>171950137
Pascal is like the village patriarch.
So, he isn't really "prepubescent"
But sure, that's a thing. Maybe he represents his "species" being "prepubescent", or it's something that Taro thinks is funny and has it play out with Pascal.

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>>171950267
>None of those quests have heavy handed music

>>171950472
They wanted a prepubescent male sounding voice for Pascal. All that other shit you're talking about? Irrelevant.

>>171950520
>bringing this autistic argument into the next thread
both of you please kindly fuck off no one gives a shit about your awful taste in music
>waaaah stop playing music when I don't want it I'm so intelligent I don't need emotion!

>>171950405
Shes a replicant and has no balls so she's double sterile.
>>171950451
Hit reply too early: so who knows. Maybe deep down Nier always wanted to be a trap or little girl but his duties to Yonah topped out his desires or some such or maybe the memories he had of Yonah were misconstrued by a network not yet fully "human" or some such so its a mishmash.

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Is this quest marker right on top of the roof? Struggling to find it. On 9S chapters.

>>171950693
it's on the third floor or so

>>171950693
It just means it's inside the building, once you're inside it actually shows the specific location.

>>171950693
Baffles me how people can be so unresourceful
Literally just open the big map, zoom in and tilt the camera so you're viewing the building from the side
The marker will show you how far up it is

>>171949714
Yeah, that's one of the only things I straight up don't like, that most of the characters are pretty one-note. One seems pretty cool though, the only other Intoner I'd actually like to know more about.

>>171950079
I love that she's obviously building a harem, and that she's obviously going to fuck all of these guys (assuming she hasn't already). But that's because it's a surprisingly subtle joke. This may be the first time I've ever rooted for a harem protagonist.

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>>171950608
I'm just loving the backpedaling from the baseless "N-Nier did the same thing!!!" to the bitter tears with "Th-that's just your opinion!!!"

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>>171950713
>>171950745
>>171950753
The fuck, I must have ran past her like a dozen times then. Thanks.

>>171950761
who are you quoting? don't reply to me you fuck nugget I'll drop you on that stack of dimes you call a neck

>>171950839
Kaine, pls.

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>>171950839

>>171950571
Okay?

It feels like I've gone into a full circle here. There's people going into full baseless conjecture, and there are people who shoot that down. And now there's people who are shooting down just looking into some basic level of subtext well within the game?

Is this a reactionary "don't read into anything" mood?
Would you shoot down discussion about the "young girl" Machines in the Sartre quest being a reference to his preference for trysts with schoolgirls seduced by his partner Simone de Beauvoir?

>>171950758
One of the first things she tells Decad to do is wash his cock and ass. It's safe to assume she fucks all of them on the reg.

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>>171950903
>only 46 files
jesus cringe christ is this your first month off of reddit? stop fucking replying to me or I'll rape you in every room of your house so no matter where you go you'll remember it

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>>171951063

Do spawns change when I reload a save?
or do I really have to change maps in order to have a different set of spawns?

>>171950954
Oh jesus you're an embarrassment. Your assumption that Pascal can't sound young, because he is the leader of the village, unless Taro is trying to make some commentary on the entirety of the machines is absolutely baseless conjecture. Just because Pascal leads the village doesn't mean he's inexperienced (he is). He's also innocent and naive. All of that comes across in his voice.

This "commentary on the state of machines through the decision of Pascal's voice acting" shit? Pure pretentious conjecture.

>>171950971
>I kill my sisters. I TAKE their men.
Yep. Kind of a shame none of the weapons is a pimp cane.

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I want to give A2 a bath!

>>171951243
>He's also innocent and naive.
Now you're making me remember when he realized he fucked up by teaching those machine children what jisatsu is.
I feel bad again

>>171950758
There are several pieces of dialogue about them discussing last nights actions. Though I'm not sure if any of them involved Cent.

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>>171950460

>>171951394
it's like this one but adam says he's going to kiss him

>>171951229
they do change when you reload

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>>171948003
>>171948108
>>171948324
And so I'm done with this. Holy. Fucking. Shit. I knew there would be this thing with players supporting you. I knew someone would come and help, and still I shed a tear when i saw the messages and the choir kicked in. I'm completely speechless right now, wish I had a ps to play the first nier.

>>171950954
>>171951243
*doesn't mean he isn't inexperienced (he is)

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>>171951394
>>171951432
Chill, anon, had to wait for the post countdown.

>>171951243
>Pascal can't sound young
>can't
Nowhere did I fucking say this

>>171951363
A4 pls. She is really dirty tho. :(

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Assuming it was the early that androids made Project Yorha, why are they so cruel towards them?

>>171951363
>there are people who whine that A2 is too sexualized and that she doesn't look like a damaged prototype

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>>171950903
>he doesn't have enough similar images to make a several hundred image collab
Newfag.

>>171951512
Also the choir in this version is dev team.

>>171951710
I think Taro wanted to say that Gods are cruel to their creations

>>171951180
>strong willed female protagonist who ends up with a submissive fuccboi
Is this a thing with Yoko Taro? Please let this be a thing.

>>171951393
I would hope Zero has better taste than to fuck the annoying douchebag who probably smells like an entire can of AXE. Octa never shuts up about his cock, but at least he's considerate about his Intoner's needs. Goddamn.

>>171951710
Black boxes made out of machines make them android niggers.
Other androids can treat them like shit because it's a stigma.

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>>171951718
>even acting like you made that old ass image
>imgur filename
you have to go back

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>>171951718
That image just reuses the same images over and over again you fucking phony.

>>171951710
Cause they aren't real people cause they aren't like us! And only real people like us can make this distinction!
God, its like you're some sort of machine incapable of proper determination between factors or something!

>>171951818
THIS

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>>171951846
>submissive fuccboi
That he is.

Does pausing in the middle of a jump stop the play timer?

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>>171951930
Never claimed it just used it for emphasis cause i'm unironically phone posting.
>>171951945
All the angles are different for each one and on those that aren't different angles or expressions the hair and/or eye color is different. You wouldn't say all black people are the same cause they have the same hue of skin now, would you?

>>171951930
>imgur filename

An imgur filename is like 6 random characters, shit a6kwN9.jpg, he's just a phoneposter.

>>171946098
>>171946061
>>171948542
Angelus is genderless.

A girl in that High School AU.

A flat chested red haired guy in her humanoid form likely with no junk in Drakengard 1.3's Dragons eat everyone and become Eggs ending with Angelus the only want who doesn't.

>>171946979
>Implying YoRHa wasn't built by sexist andeoids who wanted to make an entire series of disposable sexy androids that weren't "real" androids.

>>171952175
https://www.google.com/search?tbs=sbi:AMhZZivSy9xklW7n0qaHXb_1QazeDm9_1JsqGjylJ3Eo4LUNLuY_1407-fyeGJ-W4qHGg4lVdEhKLHHb0Wjube_1cEnhpVVO8YOIjRZgG9OAGzQzYqmYwed7ALzHAz3VjVQHr36q5KBEPWCA2wmEt_13rEXHtA3e7ZKprblri82rC1-W_1yeMdHopdh_1sxRZD_1NzaeLtPhr2KsFdG79x358h2s7FUTXdYeUPoL4A25Wj1wjizwfv2oFYdJCGA0AZYEnlIwhcG-8fyulngIHf9XqlEF6o-nsFdCBYzgYMf3G_1S2ZyJF3DMw_1x4lE4eAny-d7wz5M6jEd6m2f7LBYfkPoFvK1yJ25zOf-JCbnTY1gMFcYgpS0ekWOW6V44FrqJ60NX7sJ_169ZxH8osCvPgTifD9AvCQGDd6i5SDJOola822JZ7xB469F0M48Xl-W2B4bGtorn5XgiDxuEhwQh5UMXQRsbKqssTjjiLCzUBHYBz3g5Yw_1soXXdHTkLZy4NdcVzz8RKruPlNdYhf_1mgsNmXMPRD61DuXBOJRXed0Gt3wyHA9zfg9WAK-t51Ftl6Jb3u89nlSPFTcD-IJ9KWa7X4EEls6-QNyjS-bwioOb7dFL3SSZm6rmOPMlDzb2HEV2eQSjjGX64lW6uOxMsqRpfPjS8MarwHxP8JqNh3tEhbKj14WGWlDgBbOWG8dVCKr_1bQ0UTV58ODuePecEKUZUop2GN5_1qURwlBEPYKfUf85RI-7qZlB2CxxlzocIqIXCWAQUwXcZw5r0gAFHebK4bSJDTATZzAiqdkuSRrIMtHQJ_13BlLQw1KAUKA5OunV-BA1Un8SMRBGP0a3VrO2o7QGhMAh4IvvfDyS8n_1R3nGKgSmY6D1IMQwnasX6jHKMtsnICsyeZNfSc1uiXme1Q-J59JPqBLiVUX7A5_1AvQZJMs7blHNGe7L7-mmGJAwIGm8MzBZGlctiRfj3yBnj5XEbmLqyY5fFzMDSCxmBGIgsMJdVdLc0mR3iOBWV8I1zBcmpNUgaGIDvdfYYXZ0pK-dtrz2_1mZ9INr3EFHBrh7unzvq3iJg0bA1pyIkWD_15FkT22Gf8GdA60tIjYk0hE_189Q_1ILglU7CYCG6O4Cw3bgIGlOR5vOX0TgfbMxbKbWSqmUNfwERoiq1MJjfItjLu0jQNhYdIjzXooL08dJuEbIx7umuVSGRtr3YlzyVQmjRBTz2x5E7G1XYLrsrlyY1rZyWTxUQXAZ8dUNt68SZSA_1SkfoBgUf-ePLrIz2kvs3oEUAytit3G0WCpsUa2WkNLiQjdRN3yjdBXbJYNYUMakqvVb2mOINbZdfXcJYQ9PuQvBIWQQrAMa7ZPNtLvzp2KA-UqSWfHty9qJecHghM_1GV4xJ6_1SYNNBathPFAQqy8kUoXhezgiQFeKCXPgwtrdjQv7-ooMkzJOyTrWO1D0gNpifjWm0ODvJNCeM8B5YNYkLxdKGGWnE52wqnQmAjjyze9I2ouP3pm19JS5MV52JHK37YrAhkDZ39ea3PfIuTf8e-50TgfFG84xUv_14swOqFTWw9DB0vqs19sSLUNsofeYBSmFXMmovGhpOGJmA8gqPdTSg_1FYY45Y_1UFZVa87HNyNo2Ph9QF4nWKa4KwDvLTINkyRc_1B-JVXpDMSTtOOtw&safe=off
He's still a faggot.

>>171952181
I'm just kidding, anon. But, man, Angel is voiced by a literal fucking okama.

>>171952181
Dragons have clear genders, m87. Angelus is a chick and Caim taps it. Its canon.

>>171952362
>that huge link
I can't believe you've done this.

>>171952362
>accidentaly dragged a captcha

Poor anon

>>171952436
?

It's a reverse image search link.

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>>171951945

Requesting the "I can make happy ending too" with Taro standing over 9s, 2b, and a2 with a knife

>>171951243
>imply that Pascal is a robot, hence his voice doesn't need justification
>NO, it's invoking a pubescent male character trope
>Well, compared to his position and the experience of other machines, he isn't quite "prepubescent" on his own
>NO, he's naive and inexperienced "make[ing] some commentary on the entirety of the machines is absolutely baseless conjecture."

Well, he says that he's been around for a long time and it's his realization, that losing familiar comrades brings him pain, that lead to him trying to make a safe village that he believes is off the network. That doesn't sound "inexperienced."

And also, having the village leader be "naive and inexperienced" has clear implications on the cultural status of the village. That bit where I quoted you directly is wrong, laughably so. If Pascal's voice implies "prepubescence", it does so for the whole machine village by the fact that Pascal is the figurehead.
This is entirely within the "text" of the game.


Moreso given that those machines might never have been "off network" in the first place and they were still under the thumb off the Machine Network.

>>171952038
>tfw Toobee will never carry you

>>171952173
Anon the image literally reuses the same images multiple times. In some cases, they have been mirrored or shaded in photoshop, but that's it.

There are multiple genuinely unique images, but it's only a fraction of the total images included.

>>171952738
And this concludes our featurette on sophomoric interpretation of artistic subtext. Tune in next week for an analysis of the power of leitmotifs.

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>>171952362
jesus christ anon

>Will never learn how the DoD cast got dragons in Drakengard 1.3.

>>171952793
Nah, m8.
Hair color differences, heads slightly tilted this way or that, maybe different colored eyes, is that hair a new shade?!, etc.
All. Special. Snowflakes.

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So how long where the aliens dead?

Was Adam the one who did it or was it long before?

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Imagine being in the changing room with S-models.

I understand that the aliens are basically a plot device but it was disappointing to learn they were all dead.

Would have been nice if one lived and was a boss fight or quest giver or something. I need more lore.

>>171953176
there are multiples of the exact same images are you literally retarded or is this your best shitposting? it's fucking pathetic either way

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>>171953196
>The aliens you seek are no longer here
>They were wiped centuries ago by us, the machines
Are the people that play this game DUMB?

>>171953019
Angelus holds them down, Caim drags the reluctant member over, throws them at the dragon, and makes lewd handsigns and silently cheers them on for their first time.
Newly inducted help Caim drag in the next victim and forces them on their new dragon, etc.

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>>171953196
>very long
>He was born 5 minutes ago
>GET OUT AND JUST PLAY THE GAME ALONE WITHOUT HINTS AND TIPS AND COME BACK ONLY HAVING COMPLETED THIRD PART OF IT

ONE THING YOU NEED TO KNOW IS THAT FIRST PLAY THROUGH IS ACTUALLY JUST THE FIRST CHAPTER AND THE REAL STORY IS ALL AHEAD

FUCK OFF NOW

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>>171953294

I thought it was kind of neat that they didn't retcon that. The short story about Emil clowning ayys predates Automata development by a few years.

>>171953387
>They were wiped centuries ago by us, the machines

I was in the middle of a fight on hard mode anon, It's hard to read subtext or listen when I'm pressing right trigger and throwing my sword 50 feet away.

>>171953439
Everyone kept complaining about how the aliens are never talked about again. Figured it was some out of game context.

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>>171953176
Anon

>>171953318
Stop fucking rudeposting you garbagedick piece of shit

>>171953318
Take a look again. The angle could be as little as 4 degrees in some cases but its there. Maybe use a protactor and some sketch paper.

>>171953538
>Everyone kept complaining about how the aliens are never talked about again. Figured it was some out of game context.
They dont matter anymore

>>171953549
eat my dick shit cunt I'll fucking rudepost and kindpost whenever I fucking feel like. I'll take it easy and not take easy when I goddamn well please don't ever fucking reply to me again

>>171953549
Are you legit not seeing far rights slight bigger chin or the midright's eyes being slightly off center?
ALL. SPECIAL. SNOWFLAKES.

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>>171953538
>Playing on hard is an excuse for anything now
Senpai...

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>>171953294

It was disappointing to see that they weren't Watchers or something.

I really liked the theory that the Queen's song was a distress signal and, since nobody was around to summon them directly, they took a thousands year long trip across space/time to check it out only to be met with Emil, who is technically one of their offspring.

>>171953196
For like 5000 years

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So where exactly does Automata takes place? Canada? I just finished route B on from the descent scene it seems that way....

>>171953294
>Creators of androids and creators of machines are long dead
>Thousands of years of pointless wars because of that
You just didn't understand the whole point of the game.

>>171952414
this, it's implied they fugged.
Caim is a lucky cunt

>>171953806
We don't know that yet.
Could be some Signs shit where they were just the recon wave and the ACTUAL army is on its way.

>>171953884
Well if you look closely you're just going straight into the ocean.

>>171953884
It's either Japan or Hawaii.

>>171953698
>>171953549
Can you 2 stop fighting for silly things?

>>171953698
Doesn't it hurt to lie, anon? Is that any way to respect your anime girls?

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>>171953945

If Scientist Machine's quest line is to be taken at face value, our ayys are just Martians.

>>171953884
No clue. Remember nothing looks the same cause half the planets frozen so the water levels rose insanely.
What we do know is its the same area that Nier took place in which is definitely not Haiwaii(A2 pearl harbor theory).

>>171953884
Japan just like Drakengard ending E and NieR.

>>171950693
Stairs for 3/4 of the building, ladder for the top

>>171953884
Japan? considering the one archive that you find about the shopping center and the japanese parking ticket for the producer at SE whose name currently escapes me

>>171954075
isnt nier in tokyo? at least the prologue is.

>>171953884
Based on the lore for the mall, I'm pretty sure it's grorious nippon.

>>171954016
Girls don't like respect. Thats nice guy shit and we know they aren't in to that.
>>171954036
Who knows. Maybe they hit that place for some rest. Maybe its just a reference to War of the Worlds considering they're exactly how those aliens were described.

>>171953884
Japanwaii.

>>171954036
What was the point of that quest anyway? I never figured out what the space rocks you buy from him are used for.

>>171954265
Upgrading weapons.

>>171954209
Who knows man. Japan might be underwater OR frozen. So could half of america. We don't have an accurate starbox to use either cause the earth stopped turning.

>>171954265

Upgrade materials, aren't they?

Like I said, if it's face value the point is to answer "where are the aliens from?" with "Mars" for any player who cared to wonder.

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>>171954246
>confusing 2D with 3DPD

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>Code:2B
What does this mean?

>>171954447
It means either 9S or that little stubby picked the least secure password ever conceived.

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Were these flowers always here?

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>>171954447

>>171954434
>anons never seen anime chicks fall for pervs, asses, murders, psychos, and such
Yep its definitely those fat cunts, four eyes, and genuinely nice people who aren't even good enough to be the MC that get ALL those harems. You got me anon! My world view has taken a COMPLETE 180.

>>171953884

It shares a few locations with Nier and, while every prologue had a "landmark" appropriate to the region it was released, the tower upon which Angelus is impaled is the "canon" one. So: somewhere in grorious Nippon.

>>171954572
>least secure password ever conceived.
More secure than 1A

Do I get to keep the cool start menu screen from deleting my saves when I start a new game?

>>171954745
Yes.

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>>171954447
Here is another one.

>>171953884
One of the items you can recover in the ruins is a parking ticket, like another Anon said. That ticket says "Maihama", which is in Tokyo, right next to the sea. It has a Disneyland, too, which is probably the Amusement Park.

>>171954745
System data and save file data are stored separately if you want to back up your saves and still get the start menu.

>>171955042
Probably just the animation for when you get hacked as 2b and they just reused it for everything else.

>>171955042
>>171954447

He names his specs after his waifu, like any dork does.

>>171954447
>>171955042
9S renamed his hacking software.

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>>171955185
>>171955232
9S is so in love.

>>171953806
Machines are watchers

do you think 21O is jealous of 2B since 9S spends all his time with her?

>>171955357
It should be evident seeing as that is pretty much his entire story arc in C/D

>>171955406
Maybe that is why she was changing from an O to a B type.

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Why don't you have a 2B daki yet?

So was 2B actually an executioner model or was A2 just talking shit? It doesn't make sense that they'd deploy an E model on an android who's being backed up to the bunker anyway.

>>171955074
Do you see Fujiyama anywhere near? If not, it's probably not Tokyo. Also it doesn't look nuked to shit.

>>171955524
It's what it says in the book she found, I would assume. Right before the giant testicle robot engages you.

>>171955524
>It doesn't make sense that they'd deploy an E model on an android who's being backed up to the bunker anyway.

She can stab him in the back before he uploads.

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>>171955357
Omigosh, right?!

>>171955540
9S said something about the bedrock getting bombed to hell and back during the last war when you enter the flooded city area. Wouldn't surprise me if Mt.Fujiyama has been leveled as well.

What's everyones favourite joke ending? Mine is probably O, just 2B and 9S going "nope, fuck the mission, we are gonna bang over here".

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>>171955405

While I understand the parallels (and that's it's becoming increasingly apparent that the DoD/Nier worlds are doomed to shit on each other, forever), they didn't leave me with the impression that they'd ever become/evolve into the angels depicted in D3 or the eldritch horror types we see in D1.

>>171955406
>wanted to be his partner instead
>converts to a B-type for even the slightest chance
;_;
>>171955478
Because i'd have to share it with my girlfriend and i'm the jealous type.

>>171955616
Fair enough, but that cutscene cuts to their original black box reaction as if to signify that 2B had ulterior motives in that interaction. 9S hadn't learned anything forbidden at that point, right? Or was the cut to that scene more to indicate that 9S was being forced to reconsider every significant interaction he'd had with 2B previously?

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>>171955671
>N

>>171955765
Watchers use tools A LOT. Like zero's flower.
Them actually getting off their asses to do shit is rare.

>>171955845
I guess we'll never know. I mean 2B never broadcast her intentions when we played as her so who knows what was going through 9S' head the whole time.
But I doubt that intro sequence had anything to do with it. 9S was even the one who brought out his Allahu Ackbar plan in the first place, too. I think it was more of a "reflect interactions with 2B" kinda thing

>>171955845
He seems to remember some shit from previous iterations. He MIGHT know deep down what 2B is and what shes there to do.

>>171955845
I think it signifies that she still cared about him, despite having to kill him all the time.

I think the BIG kicker of that scene that Nines knew it all along .
>She's an asassin
>He gives a frown
>But she hated it
>Gasp
>But you knew, right?
>OH FUCK OFF

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>>171955969

So far the theory of the Machine Network making them act like Red Eye'd things because of historical records rather than ACTUAL Watcher fuckery makes more sense to me, but that's cool too.

I loved the game, but am also annoyed I went in expecting more solid answers. Shame on me, huh? mfw

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKt3EFOELwg

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What's the name of the song that played during Popola and Devola's memories?

>>171956197
Just wait for Grimoire Automata anon. Hopefully there will be more answers there.

Does pausing in the middIe of a jump stop the play timer?

>>171956330
Song of the Ancients

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11B abused 16D

Fuck me, I wanted to see what the alternative was after I didn't tell her 11Bs plans, but holy shit. I didn't think it would be that.

>>171956197
Its all conjecture right now.
>that last bit
Welcome to Yoko Taro land. Its always like this then we get some stuff later that clears up about half of the unanswered shit while making more unanswered shit that gets answered in a new game etc.
Its how writing over there works for manga and the like. Write cool shit/power with no actual explanation, continue writing story, spend 6 months with writers block cause you wrote your myriad threads into a corner, magical breakthrough idea that SOMEHOW shoves it all together coherently on face value, write it in Vol.104, realize instantly it just raises more questions, repeat.
Shit like Bleach where the writer had a keikaku all along are actually exceedingly rare and why that shit takes 8 billion volumes though that doesn't make it good.

>>171956197
Why would the watchers care? As far as I know they were tasked with the destruction of mankind which already happened long ago.

A2 looks like gay

>>171956574
She keeps talking good about her and joins the assault force to get revenge.

>>171956574
Oh...okay. Here i want you to have this.

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>>171956346

I like the "extra materials" format but I fucking hate that so little of it gets translated/there is no official English version.

>>171956639
Yeah, it's not lke male yorha even existed back then.
Not like she had much to chose from

Hello, is this general full of autism and waifufags?

Or is it decent?

>>171956740
Supplementary texts are okay but when I've gotta start watching stage plays if I want the entire plot then we've entered .hack territory.

>>171956574
What exactly does it say?

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>>171949249
>>171948897
Got you covered

>>171955540
>Fujiyama
you trigger my japanese autism.
it's Fuji-san because it's a volcano

>>171956638
>mankind takes a new form
Y'see, to really understand Mankind we must break down the word.
In this diagram you can clearly see its comprised of the words Mank and Ind.
What do these words mean? No one knows. And thus, Mankind remains a mystery.
considering are legacy can we REALLY say we've died? We got super sexbots running around with out personalities and backups on the moon plus shit like the network fucking off to space.

>>171948897
Who is this character?
I've seen him a lot

>>171956586
>Shit like Bleach where the writer had a keikaku
That's funny.

>>171956958
>all humans are dead but can you REALLY say we've died
Really makes me think.

>>171956819
It's most of the time actually talking about the game

>>171956928
I love you Anon.

>>171956740
Automata materials will probably be translated faster and more fully.

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>>171957179
>>171956928

Updated version

>>171957272
fucking perfect

>>171955648
>his knees are bright red
>one of them is dented

She has him so pussywhipped, he gets on his knees to eat her out.

Jesus fucking christ.

>>171956958
The network was created by the aliens. The network wiped out the aliens ez pz, something which even Emil couldn't do. Everything that happens in A Tomato is either directly instigated by the network or tolerated by it.
The only oddballs are the YoRHa units who use a machine core but aren't restricted by the network like the machines are.

Okay one time I went in the hanger, I don't remember which playthrough it was, and I saw a ghost little girl standing beside the flight unit.

She was gone in the cutscene of it taking off, and I haven't seen her any other time.

Has anyone else seen her? Does she give a quest or something?

>>171953276
>Hey bro, did you catch the last issue of Scanner Weekly?
>Oh man, I can't believe I managed to recon all of my points last time, it was pretty hard
>Yo fuck number 9, fucker gets to hang out all day with a hot B-model.
>Wanna hang out and go through enemy data after this?
That's how I imagine it.

>>171957632
Keep playing. You'll find out soon enough.

Finished the 5 main routes, went to go do side quests and shit but I can't find them. The chapter select says 29/33, with all of the 2b/9s specific quests completed but I can't see any quests in game.

>>171957632
She is part of the main quest.

>>171957103
>>171957621
The network absorbed an old gestalt server to evolve. They're the new humanity.

>>171957686
I am completely finished.

Was she one of the 2 Machine Network girls?

She looked completely white, no red dress.

>>171957632
Leave now leave now keep playing leave now

>>171956907
If you lie to her she says that they were in a relationship and that she wants to convert to a combat unit. She then tells you that she doesn't need these items anymore as she doesn't need to protect herself and gives you some rewards.

If you tell her about the plan to run away, she starts to laugh and says that 11B earned what had happened to her as she was always abusing her about her being a defense unit and not a combat unit and that she was beneath her. She then gives you the items as a reward since she would no longer need to protect her self from her.

>>171957697
Some are in the Bunker. Some are triggered by certain things.
Like emil's determination
Go to Route A at Chapter 7 and see if you've done Lunar Tears

>>171957697
Just compare your quest list with wiki or something.

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>>171957425
>all the resistance camp hears is industurial equipment running and grinding metal and just assumes its basic maintenance

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>>171957272
>>171956928

And i made this in the same time

>>171955765
That's exactly what they can do.
Machines evolve from rust buckets to android looking forms in a second.
Look at desert bots going to Adam and then replicating eve and growing counter and blaster shields within one fight.

Then making human clothing not found on androids.

>>171957672
All i hear is "ha! 9S is growing hair on his legs! What a weirdo!" "Look at him cover it up!"
I should probably talk to a therapist about my childhood.

>>171957760
Not really, no. The network is effectively omnipotent as far as the world of Automata is concerned.

So are Drakengard weapons in the Nier universe because they fell off of Caim when he and Angelus were shot down, or because of Accord?

>>171958280
Don't think to hard about this.
-Taro

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Shh don't Braaaap now
Nines is sleeping

>>171958242
Would this have happened without humans?
Do they not have human aspects and traits?
Did they not spawn the most human fuckers ingame?
Do they not have a human personality at the helm?
If they aren't human they're our children.

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fuck fighting 50lvl enemies with 30lvl 2B
fuck father servo and his large-handed form
fuck those 20-40 minutes of me trying and successfully defeating father servo after several tries
fuck his aftermath fetch quest which made me go to the factory and flooded city and back
fuck his ultimate 60lvl form vs my 30lvl
fuck all of that

>>171958280
Accord. The vendor tells you she's the one that's supplying all the weapons to them.

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post yfw Mikhail rolls in mud and pisses on your rug

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oheuZ28s2PI

What chips should I use in the first Emil fight?

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>>171957672
I imagine that too. Especially them complaining that 9S hangs out with 2B.

>>171958696
>>171958541
GIT
U
D

>>171957672

that's adorable

>>171958696
>Ranged Defense
>Ranged Defense
>Ranged Defense
>Ranged Defense

>>171958541
>not simply coming back to it later

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Heritage of the Past is such fucking cancer

>>171958860
>not just using Anti-Pellet sword and using actually beneficial chips
Pleb.

>>171958705
>"Yoo check out this pics I found of the Commander!"
>"What would you rate Operator 210?"
>"10"
>"8"

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>>171958936
Get used to it.

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>>171958682
>English

>>171958534
The machines don't get what makes humans human. The network uses all the data to make a stage play and that's all. Adam and Eve were nothing special, fake humans without the tools to undestand how and why things happen.
See the scene about them starting to wear underwear. They have no concept of shame and don't understand why humans did this but Adam mimicks them anyway and Eve mimicks Adam.

>>171958995
>uh uh uuuuh...21!...?

>>171959025
well post jap one then, i didn't have patience to search for it around youtube

>>171958936
Welcome to a series that actively displays contempt for the value of the player's time and patience.

>>171959153
Not that anon and not that scene but..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCIU0nnoa7I&index=4&list=FLTesBYKOA9OTdjkTZG-xTDg

It's adorable.

>>171959112
Doesn't mean they didn't go from nothing to almost human in a much shorter time than it did us.
Doesn't mean this wasn't directly because of us.
Doesn't mean those new machines didn't just instantly start digesting info even if they don't have context for it yet.
They're 1, maybe 2 steps away from serious progress on that when Adam dies and Eve abandons his mission they were just like Taro working the story back to front.

>>171959153
https://youtu.be/kzkhgAKn0nI?t=3m2s

>>171959307
Twink dragon

>>171958936
Just use the wiki, it's literally find 3 items that are on opposite ends of the desert map, no point killing your fun for some shit side quest.

So Androids are effectively the successors to humans at this point, right?
I get that project YorHa was to give them a "god" to fight for, but wouldn't self preservation suffice as a reason to fight?
"Humans are gone, this is our world now, fight for it."
Badaboom.

>>171959307
I don't know if that's your favorite's list on the screen, but why the fuck is it the same as mine?

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>>171959001
>>171959263
Oh fucking wow, I didn't want to cheat but after giving him 3 relics I got tired of running in fucking circles in areas I haven't explored yet and avoiding ones I have

>Turn in the first 3 items
>AND THEN go to the area near the Apologetic
Machine

HOLY FUCKING SHIT

I wouldn't have gone back there...because I ALREADY SEARCHED THAT AREA LIKE 3 TIMES

FUCK THIS

>>171959475
We are the same. Two corpses in one grave.

>>171951710
Robot racism, and like regular old racism it's bloody stupid.

>>171959429
>successor
machines.

>>171959307
>>171959362
i want new fantasy game by Taro, honestly i fucking need it

>>171959515
Have fun farming for weapon and pod upgrade materials. I hope for your sake you get lucky with a good Emil shop spawn.

Speaking of which, I compiled a list of the cumulative costs of all upgrade materials for the weapons in the game, but it's inaccurate because fextralife is missing information on like three of the the weapons. Does anyone here want me to post it anyway? I've already got everything fully upgraded so I don't much care either way.

>>171959676
I know machines are set up as the successors but it still seems like Androids are a better fit.
>designed directly by humans
>free will
>morals
>emotion

Machines are fucking off to another planet anyways, so Earth has been effectively passed on to Androids.

>>171959846
androids are still brewing so to speak. Machines fucked off cause androids are a fairly toxic influence though they do bring their best example along for the ride.

>>171959846
>androids
>free will
How aboot that logic virus eh

Not that much different than the machines that exercise self determination getting overridden by the network, I'd say.

>>171958705
>>171953276
>S-model art
I never knew I needed more of this until just now.

>>171960056
But wouldn't their toxic influence be another reason why they're more human than Machines?Especially in a Taro game?

>>171959392
>use wiki
>the last one isn't even fucking there
>probably have to reload the area
shit quest

>>171960150
Human brains can be hypnotized or brainwashed with enough effort to make lies into truth. It's just different than pure electronics.

>>171960056
Without the Machine Network to fight, it'll be interesting what happens to the Androids. Will they be human-like and form groups and start warring with eachother? Will they see the machines were right and attempt to form a network? Will they keep blindly believing humans exist and wait for their return?
Will they realize humans are gone and off themselves?