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>Took on the greathammer user post patch:
>>171869894

>1.11 patch:
http://store.steampowered.com/news/externalpost/steam_community_announcements/75839063734797566

>Ringed City DLC stuff
Announcement trailer: https://youtu.be/igomOLwqsV0
Screenshots/art: https://imgur.com/a/83M79
Gameplay footage: https://youtu.be/j8Ke647-xsU
Ringed Knight set screenshots: http://imgur.com/wIM6rIJ
Vaati's notes, trimmed (SPOILERS): http://pastebin.com/Y7MTapKN
Leaked first boss fight (SPOILERS): https://sendvid.com/ppo6urmb
Famitsu screenshots: https://imgur.com/a/A6diD
Gameplay from PAX East stream: https://mega.nz/#!nFUhTJTY!sVWEb4jeiteATO9mFWKPmtOuyPQiPI6IKEWXH1uS3qo
PvP arena screenshots: https://steamcommunity.com/games/374320/announcements/detail/261612445216430867
ADP arena: https://youtu.be/G-ogfoPhz64
Grand Archives arena: https://youtu.be/UVM4AsXX4yk
Bamco stream (PvP, some weapon stats): https://mega.nz/#!7YNUhbZB!IXABnYIRQR9GQd030iLgOAMR30ExztE-qdV9RdQKysc
Bamco stream (PvE, nothing new): https://mega.nz/#!fYUhiA7b!bb9K_rKuPVb3vg4OLvWAsab5r_7h0TOyO6IxnjKvPi0
Weapon stats: https://imgur.com/a/00ozT
IGN PvP gameplay (weapon showcase with shitty players): https://youtu.be/HFR6YZTlNz8 https://youtu.be/CH-ZJfeO9iw
IGN PvE gameplay (nothing new before 5:54): https://youtu.be/F61tviDEgi0
Gamespot first boss fight (SPOILERS): https://youtu.be/NJRm85cFXw0

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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Miyazaki is best boy.
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PS4fag here. The patch will be finished in like 10 to 15 minutes. If someone else doesn't beat me to it, I'll post pics to confirm or debunk this plume business.
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password arena boys ww@?
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It's not his hair.
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post the cute asian girl mimicing combat in a des shirt
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>>171901521
I still think Ariandel is kinda hot.
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This thread is now blessed by Gravelord Nito and the Pardoners of Velka.
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Checking some stuff right now. Vordt's Great Hammer now has 110 frostbite. Up from 60. So that's something.

UGS buff seems to be in the momentum like maces. A single combo takes you across the room in firelink.

Ultra heavy stamina buff is minimal. Went from 4 swings to 5 swings, but that's more than I ever expected of From so ehh...
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If they actually added the plume, then I'm way more excited about TRC, since that seems to imply that they actually give a fuck about Dark Souls 3 now and aren't just phoning it in like they did for AoA
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>>171901731
Praise be to Gravelord!
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>>171901715
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>>171901734
The plume, man, check the plume.
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>>171901594
Remains to be seen.

>>171901693
Even if it was, that wouldn't mean we wouldn't have the plume. We have Artorias's plume, and that's definitely Artorias's hair.
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>>171901789
Not even, it's a trivial thing to add. What it means is that they're willing to compromise their original artistic vision of the game in order to directly address the desires of the fans, which is big because that has obviously not been the case in the past.
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>>171901836
>Carthus inhabitant finds Valorheart.webm
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Anyone ever make the Itav video where they just spew the most retarded theories about the lore?
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>>171901836
Jesus christ, she's so uncoordinated and awkward it makes me cringe.
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>>171901836
thanks!
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>ornstein helm with plume
s u b s t a n t i a t e
t h a t
c l a i m
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>>171901908
>grave wardens with guardframes
no pls
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So, consolefriends, how is the buff on heavy armors ?
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>yfw FROM is back on their shit
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>>171901867
It won't be in this patch, it'll be with the DLC.

I'm happy to see other people excited for the plume, though.
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>>171901981
>cum
auto correct is a bitch, ain't it? but i corrected it for you
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>>171901981
This is your brain on 4chan.
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Someone check havel's.
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Hope this DLC is a good sendoff for DkS3.

Kinda disappointed with the game compared to some of the others but I liked it either way.
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>>171901482

>I agree, but i dont see how that means gwyn had an ember form or how he was somehow stronger as a LoC then as the LoS

I'm not him, lords of cinder are obviously weaker than a normal lord, embers are trash

also I'm pretty sure the "embers" the item description is talking about are the great souls, the flames. great souls are just humanity that's been set on fire
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>>171901652
>>171901990

>>171902020
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>>171901789
Why did they never have it? Like >>171901890 said it's sort of a trivial thing to add, so why was it just never on the model to begin with?
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>>171901890
>Their original artistic vision was to have the player's version of a boss' armor set look worse because it was missing one of the armor set's most striking features
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dugcFz7u_ug he tried the helm on just a sec ago
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>>171902103
No, I get that she's cute, but come on. She looks like she's only barely in control of her own body.
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anyone have the picture of Seath looking at the crystals and it says "ur a bitch." it's an edit from a Junji Ito story. I made the edit a while ago, but my laptop got destroyed so i'd like to get a hold of it again.
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>consoles get it first

I thought we were the master race
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>>171902020
If the plume exists, how could people be posting pictures of it if it's DLC?
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>>171901896
wouldnt gwyn already be linked to the fire by virtue of being one of the four lords? And asuming that is how it works, id still argue he wouldnt be strong as a LoC
>>171902126
I figured
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>>171902159
Literal laziness for 3 games in a row.

>>171902247
What?
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>>171902179
I see it.

Rewind until the dude is back in firelink. He puts on Ornstein's helm for a while before switching back
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>>171902179
>it's real
FUUUUUUCK
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>>171902159
Laziness probably
I mean, this is kind of stupid because the plume should have just been there since Dark Souls, but it's a nice gesture to try and fix a minor gripe that people have been complaining about for a long time
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>>171902179
>it's real
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>>171902119

it's gonna be a good DLC, they're bringing out the pygmy and it's gonna be a sexy priscilla's mom
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>>171902119
it's an enjoyable game, but not a great Souls game. Honestly feel DSII: SotFS did it better.
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>>171902169
Yes.
Or more likely they excluded it in 1 because no physics and excluded it in 3 because they wanted it to resemble the player version and not the boss version.
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>>171902179
REAL ACTUALLY REAL
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>>171902224
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>>171902243
Remember dearie, they're beta testing if you get it second, and getting scraps if you get it first.
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>>171902159
DS3 has the laziest and worst quality control on armor out of all the souls games by far. Which makes it so shocking that they went back and added the plume.
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>>171902431
you're a saint of the deep anon!
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>>171902364
>>171902342
I'm really hoping they say "screw it" and put in a bunch of shit.

I want some god damn answers to this fucked up lore.
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>>171902179
Holy fuck.
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>>171902179
What's going on here?
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Someone make a webm of the katana moveset already.
>inb4 running r1 nerfed, rest of the attacks are now as fast as curved swords.
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So uh... time to leave the general to avoid major spoilers?
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>>171901867
Just did. Plume is in.

On heavy armor: the buff is minimal. Weight dropped by 1 unit or less. Absorption increased by about 2-3 at most. Havel's Chest physical resist went from 16.2 to 18.5 for example.

Irithyll Straight Sword frostbite 55 now.
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>>171902179
WHAT THE FUCK MIYAZAKI IS GOD AFTER ALL
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>>171902273


>>171902273
>>171900923
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>tfw people don't realize that they added ornstein's hair for a reason

he's showing up in the DLC
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Max speed stake + plume.
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>>171902594
>>171900923
HOLY SHIT WHAT
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>>171902554
In a few hours, PC patch hasn't hit yet. Since the patch size is pretty big, we can assume there's gonna be some DLC stuff to be datamined once PC hits
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>>171902364
What a fucking faggot. You're a complete moron, and in the tiny minority.
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>>171902179
Shiieeeet
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>>171902637
That is much faster, wow.
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>>171902508
part of me agrees.
I wouldn't be mad if we got a bunch of Silver knight weapons, and the rose shield, heide knight equipment, ect.

The majority of the game is already rehashed assets, why not commit fully and throw it all in there? I doubt we'd be getting anything really exciting when it comes to new content anyway....
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>>171902621
>this is the 'fanservice boss'
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>>171902637
it's glorious
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Can someone please check out havel's weight and absorbtion values?
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>>171902656
stay mad faggot
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>>171902561
>up from 35 to 55
>literally almost a 60% increase in frostbite build
>and this buff was also applied to Friede's and Vordt's

My dick is hard.
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ERROR CANNOT DOWNLOAD
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME
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>>171902781
>Its not a good souls title.
What the fuck does that even mean faggot? Its a great game, and a great souls game. Its called fucking Dark SOULS 3. Idiot.
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>>171902743
I was gonna say "wouldn't it be cool if we saw some old friends in the DLC?"
But then i remembered most of Dks3 is seeing old friends, or the gear of old friends.
Takes away the value of seeing a callback when they happen all the time.

Of course, putting in some actual NPCs or a boss is much different from some equipment and item descriptions.
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>>171901652
In case you needed any more proof.
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>>171902637
HOLY ACTUAL SHIT BOYS
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>>171902656
have fun with your easy ass "baby's first souls game even though it's the last in the series" game with bonfires out the ass and primarily reused assets from the better games in the series.
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>>171902920
>What the fuck does that even mean
that the shitshow that is DS3 would be easier to swallow if it had a more appropriate name attached, like Mario Party
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Hahaha what.
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>>171902981
MY DICK
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>>171903023
Don't take the bait retards. Just ignore him.
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>>171902243
PC players are called the master race ironically. Most of the time they are begging for console scraps. The Souls games are no different. There was literally a petition begging for a console port of Dark Souls 1.
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>>171903061
WEW
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>>171903061
Finally the heavy gem is where it's supposed to be.
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>>171903061
Fuck. Stats?
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>>171903061
>S scaling
>630AR
HOT FUCK
How much strength is that with?
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>>171903061

>over 600 AR on pure STR presumably
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ds3 is still shit
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>>171903061
Oh no, it was already very powerful to begin with.
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>>171902981
>plume is in
>silver knight weapons might also be in
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>>171903061

My 66 STR build is no longer unemployed.
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>>171903159
>presumably
Heavy removes dex scaling, so it doesn't matter if the build is pure str or not.
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>>171903061
>mfw I had 257+226 at +9 pre patch
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>>171903183
Listen Fromsoft, give me my fucking silver knight straight sword and no one has to get hurt.
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>still no DeS
>still no BB
>hackers in every invasion

we were supposed to be the master race bros....
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They added this to the bonfire menu
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>>171903165
Hah Dark Souls 2 faggots slitting there wrists right now. Jealous fucks.
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>>171903240
>hackers in every invasion
good one lul. Some people don't care about pve and just want to make pvp builds family.
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>>171903165
Never was, and now it's much better.
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>>171903061
What
Did
They
Mean
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>plume has lackluster physics
>doesn't live up to the hype of its appearance, looks like greasy hair and a subdued red
>UGS buffs are minimal, but get discussion out the ass, even though it's comparable to the AoA prepatch
>everyone creaming themselves over being able to apply a shitty trivial status affect a bit faster
>armor barely affected at all
I'm just so hype, you guys. Honeymoon period is real as fuck.
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>>171903240
The Plume laughs at your feeble attempts at console war shitposting in this time of great joy.
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>>171903350

>no fun allowed
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>>171903258
Holy shit they're going all out
>plume
>sped up lightning stake
>sped up the heavy weapons
That's it, I'm making a str/faith paladin. WORLD OF STRENGTH NIGGERS.
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>>171903362
>eve of a new update
>suddenly console war baiting
It's transparent as fuck
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>>171903206
It wasn't unemployed in the first place, anyways.
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>>171903258

What's that? Active areas?
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Someone share the attack nerfs for Dark Sword/Sabre/etc.
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>improved framerate
>biggest community
>home of souls since the start

Why don't you have a PS4 pro?
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>>171903258
Nice.
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>>171903350
I have an issue with how armor works in general. If only it worked similarly to the previous games, where i actually felt like i had some weight, The equip burden cutoffs were better too, imo.

The patch is a step in the right direction, but i don't think just buffing heavier armor somewhat will fix it.
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Spoilers or not, I can't wait until the datamining begins to find out if stuff like silver knight weapons or giants armor is coming in the DLC.
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>>171902364
>>171902991
>>171903240
all me
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>>171902991
>primarily reused assets
Thanks for the laugh. These games have been reusing assets out the ass ever since Dark Souls lifted half its shit straight out of Demon's Souls.
And I won't even bring up how much in general is taken from King's Field, since no one's ever bothered to play it.
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>>171903350
Go the fuck away
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Please do not reply to obvious console wars bait. That is all.
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CARD CAPTOR SAKURA META IS DEAD


>>171903629
Soon friend
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>>171901521
How do I cheese vilhelm for a low soul level kill?
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>>171903674
all /v/tards know is console war threads because those are up 24/7
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>>171903715
You can get him stuck on the rocks at the edge where he'll just stand there and let you attack him.
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What are the "good" little STR weapons? Millwood?
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>>171903714

Is that with 40 END?
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>>171903714
It should have been that speed right from the beginning, holy fuck.
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>>171903601
Problem with that is rolling is ridiculously powerful in DS3 and armor can't technically be made into a meaningful defensive element without breaking down some of the game balance in every area.
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>>171903715

Lure him outside, his AI should break. You can kick him off the cliff.
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>>171903526

I do have one. Sure as hell not playing Souls on it though. Even with the patch, it's still sub 60.
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>>171903773
That looks like 20END. I don't think the stamina cost changed.
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>>171903649
I'll do a proper playthrough of the King's Field games one day I swear.
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>>171903773
Not even close
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What the fug is "improved motion"?
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>>171903772

Millwood, Butcher's Knife, Dark Sword, Broadsword and Ringed Knight SS post-DLC release.

Presumably more post-patch.
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>>171903883
HOLY FUCK
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>>171903772

Dark Sword.
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>>171903883
Sexy
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>>171903715
So drag him to the entrance. Then stand on the edge of the semi circle by the pillars. As he goes to attack you get behind him then just equip the weapon with the lowest stamina cost and r1 away.

His AI bugs out and he'll just try and walk back. Just keep r1ing him till he falls off the cliff.
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>>171903883
I'm okay with this. Any info on how the Pontiff Scythe changed? I assume it's WA is just faster if anything.
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>>171887824
Threadly reminder to sage, hide, & ignore our resident shitposter.
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Irithyll Rapier did in fact get a frostbite buildup buff

It will destroy Dragonslayer Armor even faster now
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>>171903797
The rolling in dks3 pisses me off.

It worked fine already, but trying to mishmash bloodborne speed into souls really didn't work IMO. Now you can roll a dozen times with a lot of i- frames, and armor choice doesn't matter much. It's my main issue with the game, among other smaller things.
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>>171903714
>>171903883

Are other Curved Swords beyond Sabre/CCS hit with that speed nerf? If not Pontiff Knight's going to be the new meta CS by far.
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SHOW FROST NOW!

Vordt's Great Hammer I need to know!
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>>171903658
I would be fine with higher poison damage in general in exchange for them adding the rusted iron ring to the game. It would make the swamps much more bearable.
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Alright faggots, going to start a new game this weekend for the DLC. What build should I go for and what weapons/armor should I nab?
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>>171904050
It would've worked better if they brought over the locked on dodge-stepping from BB. Though overall the amount of I-frames should've been toned down and rolling should've either just costed more stamina in general or spamming rolls had a increasing stamina cost if there wasn't a long enough pause between them.
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>tfw everyone will use Ultra weapons now
This hurts the hipster in me.
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>exile cgs has S strength scaling
>was A scaling before
Please tell me this applies to every UGS that had similar stats
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>>171903869
Gotta earn that sweet hipster cred somehow.
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>>171904218
What builds have you done?

I'm gonna go ahead and say pyro anyways. Run to old demon king, acquire chaos bed vestiges. Congrats, you melted the game.
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How substantial was the heavy armor buff? I NEED TO KNOW.
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>>171904041
I was wondering why it was being excluded in the patch notes. Turns out that too was an oversight.

Fuck yeah, now those weapons don't need to be buffable anymore, they can deal decent frostbite damage by themselves.
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>>171904232
not hipster, but you know what meme i really hated??? pineapple on pizza. as someone who has always ordered it, it upsets me to no end.
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>>171904264
I don't see how the heavy gem could be worthwhile at all if it didn't make nearly every weapon you applied it to A/S scaling in strength.
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>>171904058
Vordt's hammer is 110 frostbite. Up from 60.
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>>171904294
Already did a pyro run and pure STR run, not much else apart from one whatever buiild
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>>171904350
>pineapple on pizza
fu-cking-kill your sel-ffff
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>>171904337
See >>171902561
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>>171904374
Sorcerery is decent, though not as good as pyros. There's some new dark sorcery stuff in the dlc as well in case that interests you.
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>>171904050
The i-frames are the same as every other game. DS2 actually let you get more. The problem is the total lack of recovery frames, so you're almost invincible back to back to back, and the tiny stamina cost, which lets you panic roll forever.
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Alright someone with the patch needs to do me a huge favor since I don't have my PC.

Put on: Cathedral Knight Helm, Faraam Armor, Alva Gauntlets, Silver Knight Leggings.
Fap +2 and Havels +2.
Great Mace + Ethereal Oak Shield.

Tell me your VIT, weight %, and the scaling on a +10 heavy infused great mace.
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>>171904350
Pineapple is one of the most commonly ordered toppings. Memers are fucking idiots
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>>171904232

Just play low poise ultras and you'll still be a hipster.
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>>171904232
Use Ccs, new hipster weapon.
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Does the parrying dagger still have a block instead of a stab when in the left hand?
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>>171903526
Reasons.
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>66 str Heavy Millwood Battle Axe warcry
>66 str Heavy Great Club warcry
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THE ASTORAS. HOW IS IT?
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>>171904219
Hmm, maybe. The side-stepping would be okay if it wasn't BB fast, but something more natural. Maybe armor weight/burden could determine that?

I think the main thing is that Dks3 doesn't feel "weighty" like the previous souls games, and it really is a shame.


>>171904463
Yeah, i meant more in terms of roll spamming. Recovery times made more sense earlier.
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>>171904457
Might give that a go then
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>>171904218
>Assassin
>starting armor
>mail breaker
> no shield

bet you wont!
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>>171904452
Fuck that's pretty disappointing. Still though, if it's 3% per piece, that's an overall 12% absorption increase. Not NOTHING.
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>>171904534
The lightning and fire effects on the swords are included in the skeleton ?
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how is refined/hollow? come on console bois I know you can keep up.
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>>171904534
>nagash_the_undying.webm
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looking into a new helm. r8
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>>171904350
I'm with this guy, pineapple pizza is delicious
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>>171904628
Fair warning, the soul arrows are the best spells in the game. Crystal soul spear is good as well but soul arrow will be your bread and butter despite starting with it.
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>>171904765
Frosted tips haven't been cool since the 90's.
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>>171904765
Gee DS2poster, how come your mom lets you have TWO zweihanders?
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>>171904819
What the fuck is wrong with you. This is not a question, it is a statement. I want no reply.
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wait what is the big deal about this plume thing
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>>171904051
Untouched.
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>>171904528
yes
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>>171901521
Some more tests on heavy assuming others didn't do it yet. Done with 66 STR to see how max STR affects pre and post patch AR:

Exile Greatsword: 513 (pre), 634 (post)
Lothric Knight Greatsword: 595 (pre), 659 (post)
Greatlance: 415 (pre), 483 (post)

At 99 STR going down the list: 693 exile, 699 LKGS, 524 greatlance.
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>>171904959

>other CS untouched

PONTIFF KNIGHT META IS NOW
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>>171904954
Read the thread. They added the plume to Ornstein's helmet
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>>171904954
It's not really a big deal, but it's the main reason i've never worn Ornstein's set.

The helm just looked dumb without the plume.
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Any tips for a Negan cosplay in DaS3? Can't figure out what to pair with what.
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>>171904997
>699 LKGS
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>>171904691
No, no. The thing is that different model skeletons have different visual effect category "regions" that tell the game where those visual effects are supposed to go. If you apply the visual effect for Sulyvahn's weapons on the player with the usual skeleton, it doesn't know where to put them and so they're put at the model's origin point on the floor. If you have Sulyvahn's skeleton though, it can see where his swords should be and properly place them.

It's the same reason you can't put glowing red eyes on the player normally.
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>>171904954
>>
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>>171904997
>Lothric Knight GS
>699
OH FUCK
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>>171905020
okay
i fail to see why this is a big deal. i mean it's cool and a nice touch, but i don't know why everyone's losing their shit
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THIS IS A CAKE

WHERE ARE THE POISON CHANGES?
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>>171904997
Test millwood ba pls
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g78_neKRY2A

Few miracles tested. Stake seems to be way faster
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>>171905107
Because we've been waiting for the sick plume since DS1.
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>>171904874
guy fieri is cool only with frosted tips
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>>171905107
It's been a complaint since DaS1. People have been waiting years for this.
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>>171905107
Because people have been bitching about the plume for six fucking years, and the memester snuck it in right at the last second.
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>>171905114
Thats a doughnut you lying sack of shit.
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Any info on the katana changes yet? Interested in how my weeburai will be affected.
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>>171905017
That said, Sharp Sellsword twinblades AR did not change at all
It's possible the already good Sharp weapons havent been buffed
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>>171904989
Dammit. Oh well, thanks for testing.

Would you mind seeing how much FP the executioner's greatsword restores per kill?

Loving the ultra rare Pepe BTW
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>>171905185
Forgot about the corona, is it still a complete joke?
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>>171905180
At 99 STR 541 up from 538. Seems innate STR weapons got very little bonus AR. Not that bully axe needed it.
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>>171905107
Mainly because the plume has never been on the helmet, going back to DaS1 when you could first get it. It's partially an autism thing, but the lack of plume also majorly ruined the fashion of the helmet for literal years.
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>>171905215
ill frost ur tip m9 ;) ;333333333
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>>171905185
>can walk around while charging wrath

Neat, I guess?
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>>171905246
Of course that's the thing you worry about Smough, no wonder you could never be a knight you fat fuck.
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>>171905350
You always could, that hasn't changed. They shaved almost a full second off the channel time. Look closely, that WoG is about as fast as DaS2 WoG.
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Feast Bell actually works now

>>171905114
I tried rotten ghru on a lothric knight, it did 8 hp/sec
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>>171905185
what's that profile picture? keep seeing it
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>>171905349
i wish...
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>>171905297
Seconding this.
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How good is the claymore on a str build now?
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>plume was added
Any other stealth changes to armor models ?
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>>171905076
I'm a noob on the subject, but it's interesting, thanks.
Is that picture your char with the Dancer's skeleton ? I don't have the pic, but there's one where we can see her as an NPC (I suppose) in the High Wall. It's one of the pre-release screenshots. Looks just like the pic.
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>>171905379
I AM an honorary knight you fucking chud. One of GWYNS FUCKING KNIGHTS you snob nosed little goon. You know what? How bout you fucking come down to anor londo and ill show you why they call it anal rodeo you little clown.
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>>171905305
I'm okay with this.
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>>171905246
the fuck do you know about pasteries? you ate men for crying out loud!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAZGMxCfak4
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Great Lance seems semi viable now considering it has ~900 damage leo counter hit 2hr1 combos with poise
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at what faith is the saints talisman better than canvas?
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>>171904628
Go a faith build
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>>171905574
Oh god they literally just ran a speed multiplier on the rate the animation plays. Even when it gets buffed the lance gets shafted.
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Wasn't lightning storm changed? Has anyone looked into that?
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Does anyone run DS3 at 4K on PC? If so, what GPU are you using? I'm trying to push 4K with my 970 and I'm getting 40fps if I put everything on low so I just want to get a reference on what kinda GPU I'd need to push this further.
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>>171905426
http://yuumei.deviantart.com/art/Project-WE-Promotional-Art-7-101109890
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>>171905464
I'm going to go full tismo looking for armor and weapon changes. It's obvious there is a ton of stuff in this patch.
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>>171903061
>tfw weaponfu got buffed
>possibly be labeled as the next shitter weapon
Fuck
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is refined worth using still or should I go farm some heavy and sharp gems?
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>>171905574
>Maldron cosplay is now a viable option
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>>171905464

probably not, they only updated it cause the fag is gonna show up in the DLC and they need a working plume.
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>>171904997
Does great lance have hyper armor?
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>>171905423
What ng+ were you on and how many hits did it take?
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>>171905703
If the weapon had roughly equal scaling in both categories before, then it's still better Refined.

If it was clearly better in one or the other, odds are that it'll benefit more from Heavy or Sharp now.
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>>171905703

refined is good for quality builds, all this update means is that if you're focusing on STR or DEX you can actually go heavy/sharp now.

>tfw heavy weapons give more damage than raw on SL1 2-hand 15 str

fucking lel
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>>171904473
pls.

At least show me the +10 heavy great mace. They had to have improved the scaling right?
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>>171905524
>Smough
>a Knight of Gwyn
lol no
__________________________you fat fuck__________________________
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>>171905549
Ill tell you like i told that other little fuck, you have something coming out of that drooling round sore you call a mouth ill push it back in for you, you pea brained, slow eyed' ass lickin' gum swallowin' lil turd.
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>>171905471
That's Friede's skeleton. It is possible to use the skeleton of the "NPC" Dancer though, because the phantom Dancer in the Boreal Valley still uses it.
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fuck all crow talon users
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>>171905778
It does now.
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>>171903061
WHAT THE FUCK

IT WAS ALREADY GOOD
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What early gaem melee weapon should my pyro use until I can get Onyx and Locks? I know 9/10 would say Raw Astora but that's boring.
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>>171905884
>That pic
>Secondary weapon on back

I want it.
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>>171905924
You're forgetting that CGS movesets got buffed too.
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>>171905707
Ahhh yes.
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>>171902981
yeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaggggghhhhhhh
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>>171905884
Friede has glowing eyes?
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>>171905869
DOES THIS LOOK FAT TO YOU, YOU LITTLE FUCK ILL FUCK END YOU, PEA BRAINED LITTLE MONGREL YOU FUCKING TALK GOOD TILL I BASH YOU FUCKING DIM ILL PEEL BACK YOUR FUCKING NUTS AND WASH THE FLOOR WITH YOUR FUCKING GUTS YOU WASTE OF HUMANITY USELESS LITTLE HOLLOW FUCK
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>>171905778
Seems to, though the windup clearly does not and it's long enough to interrupt easily.

Can anyone test some of the infusable UGS like Cathedral Knight UGS? I'm not about to farm it, but I would like to see the results on a 66/99 STR heavy infusion.
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>>171905464
>>171905709
Did they sneak any of the cut armors in, like Yhorm's?
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>>171905889
They aren't hard to deal with, just don't get caught in the wombocombo.
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>>171906000

That's an early version of Gotthards. The swords are identical.
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>>171905950
Hand Axe, Thrall Axe
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>>171903409
I've had one since the poise patch. You're in for a good time.
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Blind Spot is really fucking fast now

>>171905637
It completely locks down a lothric greatshield knight like a straight sword. The damage comes out faster than the animation suggests.

>>171905813
NG, 4, I don't have any Luck and it's unupgraded
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Are we really getting a build variety patch? That may make things ok, but I'm willing to bet it's still be Greatsword meta. Specially since they're tinkering even harder with poise.
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>>171906072
Hold the fuck up. Is that the character's face, or whas Yhorm wearing a mask all along?
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How much is havel's? How much vit do I need now?
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>>171906102
Really? Damn that sword on the back looks big from that angle.

I still want weapons on my back, though.
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>>171906072

yhorm only looks like shit because they fucked up the hat

they need to

>black out the face
>reshape the neck chainmail so it doesn't stick to the neck, make it lookser like yhorm
>shrink the crown and make it look less retarded
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>>171906035
No, but you can put glowing eyes on most non-player model NPC because they have the correct category regions for it.
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The plume/hair hasn't been in since 1 right?
so almost six years for that thing shit.
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Did some testing on Katanas running attack feels off I'll need to test it in the arena.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyzUUEe8N8I
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>>171906213
Sweet! What is the poison aux at?
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>>171906213
I just remembered they boosted the damage for daggers. How big is the boost?
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>>171906213
>blindspot even faster

Corvian Greatknife was already meta. Jesus.
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>>171905574
Do other pikes got buffed too ? Or only this one ?

>>171905884
Oh yeah, I noticed how the right hand is "holding the scythe". The 2 skeletons are similar though.
I wonder why they cut the NPC Dancer, I wish we had what is going on in this screenshot. Anyway thanks for the explanations !

>>171906048
>a fat fuck, so fat, he can't even kill a 30kg undead coming from an asylum
How's your soul within Ornstein, the leader of the four Knights ?
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>used all my respecs trying to pick a build for TRC
>stuck with Sorc
>FROM adds the plume, makes heavy armor viable, and buffs big weapons

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>171906268

it's NEVER been in
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>>171906274
WD2HR1 looks like WDR1 now. Fine by me.
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Whips are untouched, I'm guessing?
God, I want to believe.
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>>171906213
Holy fuck that's really damn fast
You look like you're sliding on the ground when you do it.
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>>171906236
It's a player face, only hollowed and black.
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>>171906274
The running attack looks unchanged.
>>171906334
Same here. Now I gotta go to ng+ to get my respecs and then make my way to where ever the dlc starts.
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>>171906334
Had a dex build through AoA, but i never got too far in base game on that char. Can't remember if i unlocked respeccing.

Guess i gotta go get Orn's armor, i want that fucking plume.
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What if they gave UGS such a buff because the dlc is gonna be hard as fuck?
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>>171906532
>such a buff
It was fucking nothing, bud.
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W8 I KEEP SEEING CONFLICTING INFORMATION DOES THE RINGED CITY DROP ON THE 27TH OR THE 28th
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>>171906048
Can you keep it down? Not even Artorias was this loud at the height of his madness, and HE had the excuse of being eaten from the inside out by the Abyss at the time.
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>>171906274

Does Pole have the speed upgrades?
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>>171906115
Is there any benefit to axes over uchi, other than not being a weeb weapon? Which I can easily get at the start by lobbing fireballs at the naked hobo.
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+10 Heavy Great Mace has 342+261 AR now.
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>>171906575
It's a significant decrease in recovery frames, making them harder to whiff punish, and great hammers can actually properly combo now.
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Is the patch out on PC yet?
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>>171906617
>600 AR on a blunt weapon
Christ. It's Dark Souls 2 all over again.
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>>171905574
Is it just me or is it faster? How is it one handed? How much hyper armor does it have
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>>171906213
tfw LMAO2SHD is going to get fucked...
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>>171906617
At how much strength?
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>>171906617
>almost the same as a 40/40 Propaned GS
I'm okay with this.
>>
>2 hours since update
>not even at 10%

How the fuck
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>>171906617
I wonder what great club will be like.
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>>171906582
p-please... don't say his name.
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>>171906694
sorry, just 40 STR lel
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>>171906165
>>171905875
please no RP
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>>171906590

weeb weapons typically have detrimentally low durability, in DaS3 that normally doesn't matter, but weeb weapons are fragile enough you might actually be the first person to see something break.
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>>171906734

Was that 1H or 2H?
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>>171906718
Apparently weapons that were already optimal with Heavy/Sharp didn't get much of a buff. Only those weird edge cases where something was clearly meant to be str or dex but ended up optimal as quality due to refined being too good got really changed.
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>>171906723
Abyss Walker
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>>171906716
'Straya?
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>>171906790
2h, it's 342+231 1h
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>quality is worthless now
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>>171906590
Eh not really, maybe being a little faster I guess. Quickstep is kinda fun too.
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>>171906734
That's fine, I was just looking for a point of comparison.

That's like 70 more AR than before. Huge buff.
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>>171901836
The fuck is this stupid whore doing ? Is she fucking retarded or something ?
I would crush her fucking skull with a big fucking hammer
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>>171906812
Pfft, guy isn't even a knight.
>>
dark souls 3 can be patched to 60 but bloodborne can't? you'd think sony would have pushed for it.
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>>171906812
avatar fagging is against the rules
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>>171905869
Didn't he get promoted before he died in DS3?
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>>171906852
>implying
Uninfusable weapons are unchanged and there will still be weapons that are best refined.
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>>171906801
Aww that sucks.
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>the plume is here

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>
SOMEONE CHECK BLEED AND POISON INFUSION

I NEEEEEED IT
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>>171906881
But what if she parries you?
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>>171906224
You realise they buffed ultras too right?

Greatswords cant touch ultras
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>>171906908
I believe his armor or hammer say that he was the last knight to guard the cathedral. That could mean he assumed a position as one of Gwyn's knights, or that could just be the word they chose to use.
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ONE HUNDRED AND TEN FROST BUILDUP
INFLICTS FROST ON LOTHRIC KNIGHTS IN A SINGLE FUCKIN HIT i know you cant see it but still, i heard it
Also Lothric Knight Armor is slightly lighter and has better defenses now

>>171906280
That's Handmaid's Dagger not Rotten Ghru
It doesn't seem like weapons with innate build-up changed much
I don't have any luck but pre-patch Poison Zwei had 49 buildup, now it has 63
Keep in mind the higher the buildup the higher it scales with luck

I poisoned a lothric knight and it did something like 11 damage per second
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>>171906821
Worse, rural Canada.
>>
>>171905707
speaking of which, what chest piece would be the best? was thinking nameless knight, alva, or herald but not sure
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>>171906765
>tfw almost broke uchi on my first playthrough in the Cathedral of the Dank

>>171906812
Stay mad sub-Knight. Spoiler alert: you'll never be a Knight
>>
Heavy Broad Sword is 216+194 at 40str 1h. Looks like it's just the ultras that have been messed with.
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>>171907003
That's wrong at the moment but maybe at patch. I really doubt it, though.
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>>171906979
THIS

I WANNA SEE A +9 POISON GHRU CURVED SWORD PLEASE
>>
>>171906908
Dark Souls 3 refers to him as "a knight".
Dark Souls 1 is silent on the matter of his rank besides naming him the Executioner of Anor Londo, but did mention he had unfulfilled aspirations of joining the Four Knights of Gwyn.

Thus he was actually a lower-ranking knight of Anor Londo in addition to being the city's executioner, but never got to the position he actually wanted because the Chosen Undead went and killed him.
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>passworded arena now lets lvl 600 subhuman japs fight against SL 99s

FUN
FUN
FUN
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>>171906881
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>>171906812
you're just jealous cause everyone loves Gwynevere's huge tits, and completely ignores yours.
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>>171906979
SOMEONE USE A POISON SPOTTED WHIP WITH THE WA
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>>171907131
Dicktits please go, your game is dead.
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>>171907163
>infused spotted whip
I have bad news.
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Hey I haven't played dark souls 3 since may what changed? Is PvP dead? Is magic useful? Have miricals been buffed? Is the darksword still the meme scrub weapon?
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>>171907047
>I poisoned a lothric knight and it did something like 11 damage per second
On ng?
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>>171907126
I thought Dks1 specifically stated he couldn't be a knight since he ate his victims?
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>>171907225
>>171907163

You can put Rotten resin on Spotted Whip.

>>171907238

Everything's getting buffed the patch today. Sorcery and Pyros are good. Miracles are still mediocre save Lightning Stake now. Dark Sword was just a meme before and won't even be a good meme now.
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>>171907225
Yeah yeah I know but they said poison infusions should be causing buildup faster and also poison in general dealing more damage.
So I'm hoping I can build it up in a single WA.
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>>171907238
We're in the middle of getting a patch right now. Greatswords have been the meta for a bit, but I expect CGS and UGS to join them with this patch.
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>>171907318
Posthumous promotion, I'd assume. Died defending Anor Londo, recorded as a true knight.
>>
>onikiri is finally worth infusing
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>>171907238
Hey i haven't bothered to research my own shit since may what a dumbfuck am i? Am i a leech? Am i shitting up the thread? Have i ever bothered to open the game and see for my self? Is my post still hideable spoonfeed me dribble?
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>>171907318
It specifically mentioned he couldn't be a Knight of Gwyn.

>Great hammer from the soul of executioner
>Smough, who guards the cathedral in the >forsaken city of Anor Londo.
>Smough loved his work, and ground the bones
>of his victims into his own feed, ruining his
>hopes of being ranked with the Four Knights.

It is completely silent on the matter of lower knighthood.
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>>171907324
Lightning spears got a significant speed up, though not as crazy as stake, same with WotG. The DLC miracles are probably what is going to make or break faith builds.
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>>171907307

>>171907129
>not being part of the SL 600 masterrace
Lmaoing at your life
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blue eye orb when?
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>>171907318
>>171907360
Niggers it was the Knights of Gwyn, he couldn't be a knight of Gwyn because he ate peeps.

He was a knight of Anor Londo, like the silvers. Though that may be a generous catch all for any massive fuck in armor.
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>Corona still disappears if it touches ground
>still fires downwards and into the ground if your target rolls while you throw it.
>still does no damage
>got the exact same animation speedup as lightning spear, aka almost nothing
I don't know what I expected
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>>171907341
>>171907307

take a seat, kiddo, the adults are talking. I'll handle this slovenly mongrel and due a service to all our images.
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>>171907318
Knight of Gwyn and knight are separate titles buddy.
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Anyone know what the 2 symbols next to Friede's Church and boss room are when trying to fast-travel to them? I swear they weren't there before the update.
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Why is every katana in this game so fucking LONG? You'd think Mitsubishi would know better, being genetically predisposed to rampaging unfortunate south-east Asian villages with one.
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>>171907593
RIP Black Blade.
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>Gotthard's now gets more AR Sharp at 40/40 over Refined

Neat
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>>171907573
They show areas with players in them
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>>171907593
Same reason the zweihander is as big as a fucking tree
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>>171907551
If you want the destructo disk that bad, use the nexus mod.

>Way of White Corona:

>Increased damage by 50%
>Increased projectile Speed slightly
>Now returns 1 second after stopping instead of 2
>No longer disappear on hitting terrain (It stops instead)
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>>171907471
Forgot how fucked up Smough's 2nd phase cutscene is.

Orns even moves a bit on the ground before getting crushed, and fatboy laughs after killing him.
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>FROM ACTUALLY PUTS IN THE PLUME

B A S E D
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>>171907697
>implying it's even him

Golden (piece name) associated with Dragonslayer Ornstein, from the age of gods, and imbued with the strength of lightning.

In the dragonless age, this knight, who long guarded the ruined cathedral, left the land in search of the nameless king.
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>>171907697
Which is why he never was and never will be a Knight.
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>>171907624
What are the numbers, exactly ?
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DID THE WEIGHT CHANGE FOR THE LOTHRIC KNIGHT ARMOR

SOMEBODY PLEASE CONFIRM
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Heavy warpick 209+220/249 1/2h at 40STR, I don't know if that's much more.
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>>171907471
DLEETEEE TAHT
>>171907560
failed knight dragonpuss slayer ornstien ladies and gentlemen
>>171907786
FUCK OFF HOLLOW BRAINDEAD FUCK
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>>171907783
>every single fucking thing in anor londo was an illusion
bravo memehacki
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>>171907818
READ NIGGA
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Someone show me some actual fuckin' numbers for heavy sets, not hearsay.
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>>171907783
>>171907891
TIME
IS
CONVOLUTED
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>>171907830
It used to be about 390 so 458 is a fucking huge buff
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>>171907324
>>171907412
Thanks for not being faggots and actually helping. We should play together sometime. I have the game on PC, Xbox one, ps4, and I have the Japanese version on ps4
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>>171907593
I guess you could have the excuse that o-katanas and nodachis exist. Black blade and maybe bloodlust are the only normal nippon steel length I've seen. Although even as far as nodachis go, washing pole is fucking ridiculous. That handle needs to be longer
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>>171907909
They've done fuck all to the weight. Havel gauntlets went from 9.4 to 9.1, and the defense change is minor since it hits a huge wall after 20 absorption anyway
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>>171905423
>8 hp/sec

That's better than the 3 we had
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HOW IS SHIELD BASH NOW

SOMEONE TEST IT ON THE LOTHRIC KNIGHT GREATSHIELD OR SOMETHING
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>>171905423
>>171907047
could one of you try it on the crabs?
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>>171908131
Those are actually good enough for weight changes. The problem with heavy armour was mainly that it didn't hit good breakpoints with heavy weapons, constantly cvausing you to be .1% over. Now maybe it will balance out a little better.
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>>171908218
On greatshields it's pretty much the same
On shields it's slightly faster. Not much of an increase. Costs like 20 stamina now though.
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>>171908131
What about other sets?
Havel is supposed to be the top of the top when it comes to weight anyway.
How is Gundyr's, for example
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>>171907948
SOMEONE PLAY WITH ME IM LONELY
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>>171908383
If you admit smough is a knight of gwyn then ill play with you anon
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Some more heavy infusion tests (66,99 STR). Apologies for it being so scatterbrained.

Cathedral Knight GS: 569, 617
Great Mace: 606, 650

Great Mace is slightly stronger than Great Club (641 @ 99) but 8 units heavier and with a worse moveset. CKGS is a good alternative to FUGS for a blunt UGS. Less AR (FUGS is 649 @ 99 STR) but is 10.5 units lighter AND its strong attack benefits from the leo ring.
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>>171908383
You want some jolly coop?
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>>171908457
He was never a knight though. He was a deformed retarded cannibal.
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>>171908309
Th-thanks.
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>>171908591
He was a knight, just not one of Gwyn's knights
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somebody, anybody

can you tell me what the damage is on a refined lothric knight spear and a refined lothric knight gs at 40/40?
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>>171908509
wtf I love pvefags now
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I haven't played DS3 in forever but I'm thinking about starting a new character for the DLC (I never played Ashes either).

How's the Fume UGS these days?
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So was TRC pretty much being developed since around release or maybe even before?
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How is the new bleed values for weapons? Does the barbed sword still have 33 bleed build up uninfused?
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Can someone test a +10 heavy bastard sword?
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>>171908457
guess i'll be going solo
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>>171908665
600 ar on the heaviest, slowest weapon in the game?

toppeku
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>>171908694
So far most of the innate bleed weapons have been nerfed to 30, so barbed sword is probably the same. Now if you want bleed you have to infuse for it, since rouge was nerfed too.
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>>171908591
>>171908729
so much hate
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>>171908694
All bleed weapons got nerfed
Barbed Straight Sword now has 30
Carthus Rouge only gives 20 instead of 35
The bleed infusion was also not increased enough to be worth it
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>>171908793
The bleed infusion used to also increase the damage of a bleed proc.
Has that effect been increased?
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>>171908648
No, he wasn't. He was an executioner.
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>currently 5-0 with the new great mace undead match
The new areas are shit though.
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>>171908763

I guess I'll just use the BKGA again then

Feels bad, I want to embrace my true nature and use the biggest dumbest weapon in the game
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>>171908772
If only they could make an exception for a bleed infused weapon and allow it to have rouge slapped on it as well, same with poison.
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>>171908793
Good. Rouge was fucking ridiculous.
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THIS FUCKING GREATLANCE SPEED
HOLY SHIT
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>>171908880
Yeah they looked like they were.

Just give us one flat one fuck.
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>>171908793
>50 bleed build uo instead of 65
I have to compare it with LB and DMB now to see if it still is worthy, especially now that I might change from quality to str build...

Thanks for the info btw
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>>171908975
you take fall damage walking off to the side of the dragon area one too, which is fucking terrible.
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>>171908974
How is its hyper armor compared to great swords and ultras
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How do I use the bully axe effectively?
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>trying to finish this NG+ run and maybe get on to NG+2 before the DLC comes out
>still have NK, Yhorm, DSA onwards and AoA to do
There's no point in fighting Gravetender again, right? I already got the bones the first time, and I'm not even going to be using Valorheart on this character.
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>>171909160
L2
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>>171909190
There is none, save the souls.
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>you can steer the greatlance during its entire R2
Was it like this before? You literally don't lose control until recovery.
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>>171908961
But if both bleed and rouge got nerfed then the whole thing is fucked.
The Blood infusion reduces your total AR by more than half. If it's still only adding like ~15 buildup for that massive loss, it's still not worthwhile.
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>>171909190
I actually find it to be really fun, if uninteresting visually, and pretty lazy.
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>great lance buff
>frogmouth helmet being added in new dlc
WE JOUSTING EVENT BOYS
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>>171909350
>not having full quality scaling and high bleed at the same time

Boo fucking hoo. Infuse something that has shitty scaling or rely on the bleed as your primary means of attack. Slapping rouge on any old bleed weapon and shitting out thousands of damage per combo was stupid as shit.
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>>171909190
you have to to get the fucking bones again I think.
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>>171909350
Pve best dps was twinblades + rouge, now it will probably be something like millwood + buff
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New weapons?
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>>171909450
>trying to push people off a platform when both players have HA
Good luck.
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>>171909507
Can confirm. Speedrunning through NG+ right now to get my +2 rings and I'm already up to Grand Archives. I've only been on for like 2 hours, and I played up to Deacons yesterday. The Millwood Axe is monstrous.
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when does PC get the patch?
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>>171909680
4 hours
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>>171909632
I think at higher soul levels, a quality straight sword might be better, but below SL 200, millwood will rule as best pve weapon imo
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>>171909680
>>171909693
PCucks lose again!
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Some more numbers for heavy infusions at 99 STR (pre, post):

Zwei: 549, 615
Pickaxe: 549, 564
Spiked Mace: 589, 606
Greatsword: 572, 661
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>>171909725
No SS surpasses the Millwood axe's AR with any stat spread
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>>171909735
They don't want data miners to get the weapons
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>>171909782
>my giantdad knockoff got buffed
Good, good...
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>>171909794
It might not surpass pure AR, but they are faster

Also, did millwood get buffed by the heavy gem buff?
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>>171909904
Yes
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>>171909949
Wew, how much? This will be ridiculous
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>>171909782
What are the numbers for great club?
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>>171909992
I don't think it's much, like 5-10 more AR.
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>>171910089
>Great Club
641 at 99 so only slightly stronger.
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>be Australian
>2GB update
>download at .7 MB per second

I'm so glad the LNP permanently crippled our internet so they could afford to give Gina Rinehart a tax break to by herself a tenth yacht while she pays her slaves in the mines $2 a day.
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>>171909782

What about the FUGS
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>>171910256
Maybe the chinks will throw you a bone with better internet after they take over your country
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>>171910319
The changes were to infusions, so the FUGS is unchanged outside of the general UGS changes.
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Oh man, going through the Ashes of Ariandel DLC now, did not expect that last(?) phase of the boss fight.

The fight was fun but the the DLC as a whole seems pretty lackluster.
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When does the patch hit for burgerland?
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>>171910471

5 AM EST, if I'm not mistaken
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is it worth buying pc if i already have ds3
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>>171908651
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>>171910256

>over 1/2 a meg a second
>bahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh bahhhhhhhhhhhhhh

What a pussy
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>>171910398
We need a hardcore nationalist gubmint. This country is as cucked as a third world failed state while we have all the resources necessary to be a superpower
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>>171910421

Oh right

fug :DD
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>>171910480
soooooon
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>>171910515
Yoooo, is that a website?
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Ok some shit I'm happy about, but also upset about.
>heavy armor defense has been buffed, also the weight increased
>VIT stat returns have also been increased also. Before I was at 69.7% now i'm at 68.0% with room for a caestus now.
>All ultras get about 1 or two more swings now, which is alright I guess. Didn't notice much of a speed difference.
>FUGS now is not the highest AR Ultra anymore. At 66 strength it has 648 ar, now the great sword has 661 ar. I'll still stay true to my weaponfu but goddamn that hurts
>great lance still shit
>they actually fucking made every infusion across the board better.

I give this patch a 7/10. This should have been the game at fucking launch. Now they just have to fix left hand movesets...
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>>171910549
Where the fuck do you live that such speeds are good by comparison? Madagascar?
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>>171910576
>liking One Nation
If you guys actually let them run your country, you're going to be even more fucked than we currently are with Drumpf.
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>>171910683
? weight was decreased slightly
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>>171910683
heavy armor weight was DECREASED which is why you're at 68% now
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>>171910683
>>they actually fucking made every infusion across the board better.
They didn't mention any of the magic ones in the notes, were they changed?
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>>171910683
>FUGS now is not the highest AR Ultra anymore
It hasn't been since it got nerfed long ago. Profaned, Lorian's, LKGS, and BKGS have much more AR even before this new patch.
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>>171910421
What do you mean? Can't you infuse it heavy?
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Was the Irithyll straight sword buffed jus like the rapier?
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>>171910861
Twinkling, Dragonscale, bows, and some weapons with special properties can't be infused.
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For what pvrpose does the giant put the boulders in the hole? Who makes the boulders?
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>>171910720
>being a cucked bitchboy
Bend over and prepare to be culturally enriched by Achmed for your whiteness
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>>171910868
All of the frost weapons were buffed. Vordt's now has 110 frost buildup, takes 3 hits to frostbite
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>>171910683
How is great lance still bad
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>>171910956
shit, senpai. your game looks kinda dark
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>>171910963
not an argument
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>>171910956
Your mom poops them out [because she is a very fat and big girl]
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I wonder if I can save even more points by using a Sharp LKLS and Sharp Corvian Greatknife...

Speaking of the Greatknife, holy fucking shit that WA has been super well-buffed. It's literally one of the most perfect backup weapons now. Thank you so much From, you guys are the best.
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>yfw console shit stains will get the DLC earlier
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>>171910956
He puts boulders in the hole to kill filthy undead. Then they seal undead inside boulders to kill more undead. Who makes them doesn't matter, it's probably slave labor.
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>>171909306
It has, and you also cannot be parried if you fully charge it. Now that HA is introduced that attack will be even better
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>>171911206
Literally do not care. I have my plume.
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>Curved swords are now as fast as axes

FUCKING HACKS
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>>171911206

I mean, Dark Souls started out on consoles, you imbecile.
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>>171911198
inb4 nerf
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Is Murakumo finally good again? :< I just want my Dark Souls 1 build back.
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>>171911256
The age of dexfags is over, now it is time for strength.
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>>171911256
Only CCS and Sabre.
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>>171911271
Fucking touché.
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>>171910956
The boulder feeds directly into the machine that shoots them onto the various stairwells of Sen's Fortress.
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>>171911206
Who cares?
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>>171911337
>>171911256

>Pontiff Knight and Storm Curved Sword speed not nerfed
>Pontiff Knight CS WA buffed greatly

You fuckers thought Carthus and Sabre were bad before, soon you'll see the true Curved Sword meta.
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>>171911308
Ultra weapons can poisecatch daggers perfectly fine, so they'll probably ignore my sweet little sidearm for the next month or two if a nerf does go into planning.
>>
So what exactly happened to curved swords?

Speed decreased? Stamina increased?

Also I want to see GH animation: my weaponfu vordt just got even jollier.
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>>171911256
All of them?!
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>>171901889
How come?
>>171906992
>great hammer
>getting parried
She'd get a partial, 1/3 of her HP gone, guard broken, riposted for rest of her hp
>>
Do we have any leaks on any of the DLC weapons?

Hoping for the red iron pair
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>>171911457
No, just the CCS, and only 2H.
>>
So, no love for the Butcher's Knife?
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>>171911489

So 2H Follower Sabre wasn't nerfed? What about Dark Sword and Flame Spear?
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Is the Earth Seeker any better?
I need a fuckhueg axe.
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>>171911487
Well, we are going to get something that's red, as hard as iron, and comes in pairs in the DLC.
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>>171911445
Please refer to >>171903714

I think the Follower's Sabre has met the same fate as well. However, no other weapons were touched, which means that the Pontiff Knight Curved Sword (which was super buffed with the hitbox addition) will be the new meta.

I think that's gonna be cool. Since it's a light curved sword, people will use the kick animation in fun ways, or keep the PKCS in the offhand so that they can also use it as a parrying tool.
>>
So the silver knight weapons are just a rumor right now and not actually confirmed yeah?
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>>171911572
If you have 35str 40fth 2 hand yields you 613ar.

Its basically morne with a different moveset and WA but much lighter.
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>>171910683
>>171911219
>>171909306
Is great Lance good or bad now?
>>
CAn someone answer why upgrading weapons is a thing? Why can't damage rely on leveling your character instead?
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>>171911696
No is on utube along with blue orbs add well
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>>171903714
CCS is a pretty neat sabre. I might actually use it now that it's not a shitter weapon anymore
>>
Pretty cool that they listened to the autists that were asking for the plume on Orn's.
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>>171911758

It does you double hollow
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>>171911758
Because having a wide variety of weapons to use at any time would be too good of an idea.
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>>171911725
Who knows. If you can still reaction parry than its just not good. Better, at least.

>>171911638
I saw this, but I never used CCS so I didnt know if thats normal or not. It seems to me its slower on the 3rd hit, and uses a lot more stamina. Makes sense, though, since its described as heavy.

As long as my lighter curved swords like the scimitar is unchanged (actually sharp gets a buff so prob itd do more damage) I am a happy man.
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>>171903508
Yeah, it's like DS2's feature where it showed you the most active areas for your matchmaking tier

Goddamn they went all out on implementing the most wanted features that users requested
>>
>>171911758
Because if you got damage purely from your stats, you'd be able to out-grind basically any challenge. Upgrade materials serve to gate your progress by how early they're available and in what quantity.
>>
SL 36 fine for invading in Farron Keep swamp?
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>>171910659
dark souls 3 wiki calculators
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>>171911758
>Wanting even less depth in your game
Just remove levels all together and just make you stronger based on how many bosses you beat with a class select to decide if you can use magic, ultra weapons or light weapons.
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>>171912042
Are you fucking retarded? You can balance the damage of weapons through stats alone.
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>>171912086
Not him, but what difference would it make if the + system was removed and you had just the requirements and scaling system? Just seems the same but with less grinding.
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>>171912086
>Using weapons
Get this new dark souls, you're the guy that exhumes the champs of ass, all you got is a shovel and a bunch of annoying undead and that weirdo with a sword in him. Can you get a date to Lothric dinner formal?
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>>171912086
upgrading your weapon adds no depth; it's just grind-filler bullshit
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>>171912258
In your opinion.
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>>171912306
no- it's objective.
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>>171912361
No it's not.
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>>171912258
If weapon levels weren't a thing you could be at end game just by mashing your head against the first area until the games a joke. Having levels means that you have to play the game to the end in order for head mashing to get you to top tier damage instead of capping out by farron.
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>>171912361
No it isn't.
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>>171903714
Are cs better onehanded now? Was about fucking time. Is it possible that from started caring? After all this time? could we get reworked covenants?
>>171903772
Those+javelin
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>>171912410
Just give diminishing soul returns to lower level enemies based on their max health or something. There's lots of ways around grinding like that.
>>
Wait i thought this shit was supposed to be out on 24th ? Steam says it's on 28 ?
>>
Is playing a level 40 dex character viable? I'm planning on using AoA weapons and kurkis/throwing knives
>>
>>171912410
>>171912404
>>171912413

Not an argument; all I'm hearing is "muh retro rpg mechanics"
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>>171912498
Probably, now that sharp gems got changed
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>a few days before DLC2 drops
>been building up hype for months
>fucking WS-37397-9 error out of nowhere
Fuck me for falling for the ps4 meme.
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>>171912491

The patch is the 24th, the DLC is the 28th.
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>>171912498
Dexfags fuck off, this is a strength board now
They're alright, the Old Wolf Curved sword buff was pretty nice and onikiri is actually worth infusing now. AGS gets insane AR with a sharp gem now.
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>>171912482
So instead of grinding materials you grind souls? The system in place works pretty good as a way to spread out the game.
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>>171912498
The pre-DLC patch was just released, DLC was always on the 28th.
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>>171912072
Personally I'd go down to SL30 or so, since you can catch people in Crucifixion Woods as well.
>>
If everything was at their MAX power level, what would be the strongest? I'm assuming sorcery because of all the damage amps they have available.
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>>171912526
Well thankfully you are objectively not in charge of anything so I don't have to bother arguing anything. You are still wrong. Deal with it.
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>>171912568
you grind souls currently to level up and would still need to progress to get stronger which is what upgrade materials do now right? The point was is that in any run you probably only comfortably get 3 weapons worth of upgrade materials and so never get a wide variety of things to chose from.
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>>171911464
I was scared the plume was a meme. Fears have been waved. Miyazaki is best boy.
>>
>>171912258
>>171912526
>grind-filler bullshit
If you are grinding for stuff before the game is done, you are doing it wrong. There is a reason they shit titanite on you on certain areas, it's because they are progress blockers like >>171912410 said, and you are not supposed to be able to use EVERYTHING, you choose your fucking weapon nigger.

>"muh retro rpg mechanics"
It is an Action R.P.G faggot, not an action game, go play bayonetta or something if you just want action based gameplay.
>>
>finally hit 1,000/2,071 gb after 4 hours
pc anons will be playing by the time this finishes
>>
How's the greatlance when paired with carthus bacon, pontiff eye rings, and offhand old wolf cs? Perhaps leo ring as well. Will my gimmick build finally be viable?
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>>171912526
It's not really a retro RPG thing it's just a way to keep the game at a pace that the guys who made it want it to be played at.
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While I'm very glad Heavy and Sharp got their due buffs, I'm slightly worried about something.

Is refined still good for anything? Take something quintessentially quality, like the Longsword. If the AR is near, at, or god forbid slightly higher when sharp or heavy at 66 of your stat of choice, then that would be fucked.

I'm downloading the patch right now, but if anyone knows the raw numbers, it would be appreciated.
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>>171912554
Change your ip or router
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>>171912734
i've looked through multiple solutions the whole day. I'm using apartment wide wifi so I' pretty much shit out of luck
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>>171912727

Refined still seems to be best for traditional quality weapons along with uninfusable weapons such as boss weapons or Black Knight ones so quality will still be good. The best part of a quality build has always been having a diverse arsenal to work with as well so some things working best with Heavy/Sharp at 40/40 won't change that, just give you more AR on them.
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>>171912727
refined is still godly for 150 meta
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>>171906048
This kind of autism is exactly why you only became a knight when noone else was around to be one.
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>>171912707
You will never hit anybody with the charge and even if you did, it hits for 200 damage, costs 90% of your stamina and still doesn't land enough hits to activate any of the pontiff rings. You won't even have enough stamina to try to stay aggressive so you can even attempt to get those rings to work.
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>>171912727
Refined will probably still be better for stuff like C/D or D/C, while Heavy and sharp will be best when the offstat is E or absent.
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PASSWORD ARENA BOIS WHERE WE @???
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>>171912924
DOING 3V3S ALONE BECAUSE THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 3 PEOPLE HERE WHO EVEN USE PS4 AND PVP
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>>171912878

Doesn't the charge combo with R1 or R2?
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>>171907054
Not Alva. Nameless knigga has huge pauldrons, herald has a cape. Pick which ruins it the least for you
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>we've almost filled a thread less than 3 hours in
I guess if From really wants their community to be active, they just need to start adding plumes to everything.
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>>171909782
>99 STR to exceed a 40/40 zwei by 10
wow
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>>171912959
Well maybe if you helped me co-op I could have pvp builds ready.
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>>171912715
YOU CAN BALANCE THE GAME WITH STATS ALONE DUMMY

WHAT
DO
YOU
NOT
GET
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>>171912878
R1 combos into charge if you queue it early. But I can't disagree with the rest.
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>>171906247
Probably 3-5 less
>>171906268
The boss has had it in 1 and 2. Players only now
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>>171912185
Are you? You'd need to massively narrow the starting and ending damage of every weapon and implement ridiculous diminishing returns. Upgrades increase scaling as well as base attack for a reason. They're specifically a force multiplier. If you don't understand what that is, you shouldn't even be talking game design.
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>>171912878
It has lots of range and ha now and is faster
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>>171913046
BUT WHY WOULD THEY WHEN THE SYSTEM THEY HAVE WORKS FINE DUMMY

WHAT
DO
YOU
NOT
GET
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>>171913243
All they needed to do was make slabs super rare but farmable like in DS1.
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So guys am i better off making a new character or just going through Ringed City with the existing characters ?
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>>171913229
The hyper armor can't poise through anything bigger than a straight sword even at 38 poise, and it's still slow enough to reaction parry with a medium shield.
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>>171910720
>drumpf

You know you come off as as much of a retard as people that call trump god emperor right?
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>>171913243

it doesnt work "fine", you are heavily restricted in how many weapons you can use in a single playthrough because youll only get so many shards to upgrade weapons as you go
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>>171913243
>heh it works fine, even though its shit- let's just keep it!

was removing armor upgrades not a good decesion? didn't it work fine before?
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>>171912959
id pvp if you set up a pass
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>>171913046
If you balanced it on stats alone then your early game would be even more of a drag because now instead of leveling to use weapons then upgrading them for damage then later specializing in damage type, you would slog through the beginning with one or two choices and wouldn't have the arsenal you seem to think you lack until close to the very end. The only thing that would change is that post game and Ng+ wouldn't need you to grind to add another weapon but the game isn't built around that, it's built around having 5 or 6 weapons that you like and 2 or 3 more on the side.
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>>171912695
>you are not supposed to be able to use EVERYTHING, you choose your fucking weapon nigger.
That just diminishes variety and disincentivizes experimentation. There's no reason to restrict the amount of weapons a player can use based on upgrade materials. The stat system should already encourage specialization into certain styles of weapon.
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>>171913046
You can=/=you should, dumbfuck.

For what reason even should they ditch the system? Because you personally don't like it?

I'd also sure as fuck like to see you try to rebalance every area, enemy, boss, weapon and build in the game so that you can't cheese any part of it with soul grinding/duping/trading, that isn't also massively more complicated.

All you're doing is having a hissyfit about the mechanic's existence, without articulating why it's actually bad or flawed, whilst kicking your feet and demanding that they COULD do something else, without why they should, how one would go about doing it, and how it would be simpler, easier, or otherwise superior to the alternative.

Fuck off.
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>>171910956
The boulders are a metaphor for how human greed can never be sated
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>>171913445

damn you are really mad dude, take your meds
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>>171913358
why make a new character? What difference does it make?
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>>171913445
>i enjoy grinding endless hours just to use one weapon
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>>171913382
>you only get so many

You can literally buy infinite of them in every single game past specific gated points, numbnuts. Slabs are the only exception to being able to get infinite of them, and only in 3 at that rate, where you get 11 (probably 14-15 with the new DLC coming) per run.

That argument is only remotely valid for how badly DS2 vanilla throttles you on titanite shards until you bumble into Earthen Peak.
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>>171913445
>no more slabs in my current run
>have to progress to another whole cycle and increase the game's difficulty to upgrade further.
Thanks.
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>>171913439
>That just diminishes variety and disincentivizes experimentation.
Or maybe it's because it gives you something to return to since after you beat the game with one batch you can return and try it with another.
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>>171912680
No, I meant the part about artorias
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>>171913445
Just because I can't balance a system well doesn't mean a profesional cant lmao
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>>171913502
The exact same thing applies to grinding endless hours to boost one stat to use one weapon.

If you think hours long, non-slab titanite grinding is actually a thing though, you're out of your mind or genuinely blind and retarded.
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>>171913558
Christ dude +9 is fine you don't need to upgrade something to max to use it
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>>171912410
>>171912695
You can already do this lol without worrying about weapon levels.

Farming low level hollows is fucking COLOSSAL time sink compared to just farming until you can dumpster the boss and moving on to farm enemies that grant more soul returns. There's a reasonable limit to how trash someone is, and pretending weapon levels are designed to seek out and deny this fucking unicorn of garbage seems silly when the exact same gameplay pattern is easily attainable by just advancing when significantly overleveled.
Just look at Fuccboivin.

I also don't really give a shit but the entire thing could be fixed if they just gave you unlimited free mats in NG+. NG isn't so restrictive with the amount of slabs the DLC throws at you and NG+ makes sense for playing around with whatever.
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>>171913634
having a stats based system would cut grinding out; what the fuck are you on about?
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>>171913616
This is From we're talking about you might actually be better at it than they are.
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>>171913501

Overleveled?
Doesn't like the name?

I guess those are 2 you can't come back from and you'll need to make a new one.
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>>171913616
And a professional could probably balance the game so that there aren't any levels at all, thus totally eliminating grind.

But why would or should they?

>>171913558
Bloodborne eventually added farmable Blood Rocks. I wouldn't be surprised if Memehacki was eventually coerced into something for slabs at the last minute.

Or just trade +10 weapons, because passwords are a thing.
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>>171913445
>I'd also sure as fuck like to see you try to rebalance every area, enemy, boss, weapon and build in the game so that you can't cheese any part of it with soul grinding/duping/trading, that isn't also massively more complicated.
Why should we stop them? Half of the function of an xp based progression system like the one in souls games is to dynamically lower difficulty. Already in the current game you can grind your soul level higher to get an easier game. The only difference between a soulduped sl 600 character blitzing through the game without having to upgrade weapons and a maxed character who does is that the character that has to worry about upgrade materials will have an opportunity cost to experimenting with new movesets and finding the weapon they like the most. There's no reason for that unless you'd rather encourage people to look up movesets and special weapon features on wikis and youtube.
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pc patch when?
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>>171913761
2 hours
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>>171913046
What if they made upgrade mats rarer but upgrading one weapon also upgraded all weapons with the same type of titty? Although it's still kinda wonky, I'd prefer that upon entering ng+ you dont lose merchant inventories and all the items they sell become unlimited.
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>>171913558
>going into another NG cycle makes it more difficult
>when you already know how to beat all the bosses, and have your offensive stats maxed and your +10 weapons by the end of your first NG
Increasing NG cycles doesn't make the game harder, if anything it's easier since you already know what to do. At worst a lot of the later NG cycles only increase a boss's damage output by like 5% and their HP by 1000, which you can easily cut through with like three more attacks.
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>>171913658
>There's a reasonable limit to how trash someone is
I remember my brother first playing souls, he ended at level 190

Some people like to grind.
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>>171913761
Probably best to just leave dsg ever pc gets a patch since pc players are going to spoiler all the bosses and everything with cheat engines and pirating the dlc
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Why couldn't we have just gotten a closed-off section of the High Wall? The place you fight the demon who's soul gives you Havel's Ring would be amazing as a flat, featureless arena if it was a little cleaned up.
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>>171913747
Weren't they like 60 insights? How long did it take to farm that?
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>>171913684
That statement is so incredibly vague and nebulous that it's effectively meaningless.

Removing stats and using only a titanite system would cut grinding out. Removing stats and titanite would cut grinding out. Giving you all the weapons at +10 at the start would cut grinding out.

As it is, chugging souls to reach 40/40 or 66 takes much, much longer than spending the same souls on shards/chunks. If you're hellbent on grinding them from enemies, you also level both things at the same time, as the souls you get for levels are given in addition to the roll for a titanite drop, thus there is no extraneous grind.

The only really bad grind I can think of is fucking blood stone chunk farming from those blue eye werewolf cunts in the Upper Cathedral Ward, because for some reason chunks cost almost as much as rocks at the insight shop.
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How are the BLOOD infusions niggas? and yeah POISON as well?

Flamberge? Warden Blades? Spiked Mace? Notched Whip?

Spotted whip?
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>>171913860
At the end of a regular playthrough you earned 200+ insight, and you can get 2 insight per invasion, or just get 1 insight every time you farm a chalice dungeon for the gem you need. You can make even more insight by grouping up for gem farming, and it's a win/win for both parties.
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>>171913564
>Or maybe it's because it gives you something to return to since after you beat the game with one batch you can return and try it with another.
You can replay the game either way. Plenty of games lacking progression systems entirely are highly replayable. What matters most to replayability is how good the game is. And even putting that aside, you still would have to replay the game to kill bosses with different weapons than you used before.
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>>171913860
Going through the game normally, and not wasting insight, you'd have enough to buy 3 blood rocks pretty easily by the end. There was also 1 in the main game and 2 in the DLC. If you didn't want to do NG+, you'd get roughly 6-10 insight per chalice dungeon by running through bosses, or you could use people's glyphs to just infinitely farm great one's knowledge.
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>>171913940
Still can't be buffed and does way too much of a hit to your weapon's damage to be worth it.
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Were any rings buffed? Or do they still have the bullshit arbitrary multiplayer nerf
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What weapons, if any, get workable hyper armour on one handed attacks?

Seems to be exclusive to two handed attacks out of the weapons i've tried.
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so did FROM wise up and not gonna drop the DLC early on consoles again?
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>>171913747
Because levels aren't a grind? It's what makes it an rpg? It's what allows you to have builds?

weapon upgrades are redundant in rpgs
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>>171913994
It's also worth explaining that Bloodborne has something like a quarter the number of weapons as Dark Souls usually has, and so 6 Blood Rocks is already usually as much as your build really has any business using.
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>>171913838
Especially in souls, grinding comes naturally for the average player. He'd go in an area, kill some guys, die, go back in pick up bloodstain etc. I remember in ds1 at times I would find myself underleveled because I never killed any enemy more than once or twice
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>>171913407
this
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>>171913905
If you believe that, then what is the point in having both systems?

A titanite system would be horrible anyways, it would limit the weapons you can use.
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>>171914051
Great Lance
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How is Crow Quills AR Sharp post patch at 40/60 Dex?
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>>171914062
nah Xboner here, already finished the DLC

Morne's Greathammer and Demon of Feces were great. Green Smelter was a nice throwback desu
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>>171914076
>grinding for levels isn't a grind, it's an RPG staple
>but grinding for better weapons is a grind, it's redundant

Have you just never played an RPG in your life? You might grind for GP to spend at the store for better weapons, grind for gems to slot into your weapon to make them better, grind for special materials to ascend a weapon, grind for upgrade chips or slots or whatever, grind to unlock combos, junctions, photon drops, whatever the fuck, or even for materials to have some faggot blacksmith +1 your weapon exactly like Dark Souls, never mind just straight up farming an enemy until it drops a better weapon than what you have. Gear grinding is everywhere, even in action games basically just pretending to have RPG elements, or thinly disguised skinner box MMOs.
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you guys happen to know where to enter the dlc when it gets released on PC?
I guess will be the kiln of the first flame.
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>>171914319
probably the Kiln, yeah, but no way to be sure
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Alright faggots, let's try some arena
3v3s
PS4
Password: dsg (yes all lowercase you fucks)
Map: Random
Password applies to: All
Recommended level: 95-120

If we can't get a 3v3 started in the next 5 minutes we'll switch to either 2v2s or 4 man brawls.
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>>171914387
I would but i need to sleep
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>>171914184
The point in having both systems was just explained to you by something like three different people, assuming at least one is a samefag. Having two, separate, interacting ladders allows a designer to fine tune both the breadth and power of options available to the player at any given point in the game, through when you actually receive an item or spell, when you meet its requirements, and how much you can multiply your base effectiveness with it. They didn't switch to pounding titanite into sorcery sticks and pyro flames for no reason.

Or do you not at all remember just dumping a fuckton of souls into your pyro flame at the start of DS1 and cheesing through most of the game like nothing on any build. Because without the interaction of stat scaling and upgrade level, your flame was basically just "your fire damage stat" and grinding it accomplished exactly what everyone told you it does.
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>hop on ps4
>it's been a while so i don't even know what the fuck do i have there
>3 characters, 1 warrior, 1 mercenary and 1 knight, all 120 and all with muled gear except for first dlc weapons maxed

damn how did i put this much time into this trash version of the game. at least i can test all the weapons in all infusions before i go back to pc lel
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>>171914387
probably should just set it for team, seem we only got three.
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>>171914550
Unless I'm literally retarded I've just got remaining 5.
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>>171914387
>>171914550
For all 3 of us playing on ps4, switch to "Password applies to friendly team only"
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>>171912498
Always was
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>>171914646
Roger Roger.
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>>171914646
>matchmaking cancelled
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>>171914646
does no one play 3v3?
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>>171914646
>Quede up with everyone
>attuning spells while searching for match and carelessly massed O to get out
>Remaining: 2 Allies/3 foes
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Still have one more spot on team dsg, the enemy team is 3/3
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why are you all talking about the patch stuff like it's been added already?
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>>171914942
Because it has. The patch is out on PS4.
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>poison buffed
>more hp/sec instead of scaling damage
Imagine the High Wall twinks now.
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>>171914646
Wat
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>>171915070
I'm cumming at the very thought
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>>171914942
It's been out on consoles since 5 hours ago.
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Well that sucked.
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>>171915110
There are apparently lots of people doing that in this general today.
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>>171915290
>sharp
moron

refined wasn't touched
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>>171915290
>infused pontiff knight CS
Are you memeing? Have I been using an infusable weapon uninfused this whole time?
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>>171915349
>refined wasn't touched
WRONG.
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damn those 2HR1s from the pole are baller now
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where my CORONA peep at?

how fast it is now?
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>>171915383
refined was not nerfed or touched in any way

a select few ultra weapons are now better heavy as they should have been

pontiff knight curved sword is a quality weapon
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>previously top tier curved swords assassinated
>refined infusion assassinated
>pontiff knight cs on pure DEX is now contender for top tier

Beautiful, what other new options are there for a pure DEX build? Never used one before
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>tfw heavy weapons are now fast
>yfw instead of 600AR GS builds, we get HSGS and FGS builds everywhere
>GH, UGS, and GA end up being second fiddle to GS like how GS was to SS pre-patch

Holy fuck these weapons are ridiculous now. Farron Greatsword is crazy, it's fast enough to viably spin2win.
HSGS is still going to be better regardless because of fucking course it is.
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i suck at orgies ;-;
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>>171915459

Claymore, Astora Greatsword and Gotthard's Twinswords are all best Sharp now even at 40/40.
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>>171915479
I see what you did there
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>>171915496
>claymore is better sharp
>ags is better sharp
ok, that's just silly
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Let me guess, the whole patch is 40 str or dex weapons outdamaging 40/40? And uninfusable weapons are now mostly shit? I can't wait to test it out but I fear the worst.
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>ng+7 ivory king fight
>no knights rescued
>other phantom is wearing full Discovery gear and using a Red Iron Memeblade, Giant Warrior Meme, or Greatmeme buffed with Sunlight Blade and will definitely die as soon as the fight starts

Be honest /dsg/ could you carry a host to victory in these conditions?
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>>171915496
I could've guessed. This patch is pretty fucked.
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>>171915459
How about Corvian Greatknife?

Daggers apparently got a general damage buff, and Blindspot is super fuckin fast now. Greatknife was already pretty strong for a dagger, so it might just be the new meta weapon.
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>>171915496
How does Heavy compare to Refined on the Claymore ?
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>>171902621
>claymore is now sharp
Fuck this. Quality is basically just going to be boss weapons from this point on, Heavy and Sharp got buffed way too much. Thank god honestly though, I'm happy they didn't murder my weaponfu greatsword.
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>hear all about how the Claymore has an awesome moveset
>decide to fiddle around with it
>it has precise vertical slashes and thrusts
Holy shit, what have I been missing out on? Are there any other weapons with this type of moveset?
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>>171915646
Maybe but if I'm getting summoned in and see shit like that I'm just gonna dick around. No need to expend all the effort when the host is just going to either die or black crystal me out.
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Why do people care about which stats/infusions are good? Whether your Claymore is sharp or refined, the playstyle is identical.
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>>171915290
Rapiers are a lot of fun, claws are a lot of fun
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>>171915646
I'm actually pretty scared of what DS2 would be like at NG+7.
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>>171915753

I play on PC and have only seen what some PS4 players have streamed so far but the AR isn't that much worse Heavy from what they said. Sharp itself is only a few AR points over Refined at 40/40 for Claymore, not sure how it works at 60 Dex.
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>>171915868
27/60 claymore is 255+257
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>Sharp Zweihander is better than Heavy or Refined Zwei at 40/40
Hope you leveled up dex, you fucking faggots.
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>>171915820
This is why I don't care about any of that and want to test to see what the best poison weapon is now.
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>>171915787
The entirety of all Greatswords my dude. Claymore, Wolf Knight, and Hollowslayer Greatsword are my favourites. Hollowslayer has been the best since launch, no idea how it's faired in the patch. Just try those 2H R1s, and you'll see why it's top-tier. SS-tier speed on a GS will never not be broken.
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>>171915856
the charred knights have like 4k+ hp. It's tough to kill them faster than they spawn, even with all knights summoned and 2 phantoms.

If you actually get a good group, NG+7 Ivory King with no rescued knights is super fun. It's probably the only boss fight in the series that feels balanced when you a competent 3-player group.
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If my SL is 92, i still can help people against pontiff or dancer?
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This whole patch threw balance out of the window. In regard to infusion changes, I can safely say they fucked up.
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>all weapons that were best refined are now Dex weapons
>STR is now broken
>Quality is only for uninfusable weapons now
I want off the ride
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>>171916062
Probably dancer, theres always a crowd there.
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>>171916071
Yes, because because quality everything was a great meta.

WEEE CCS WASHING POLE AND GREATSWORDS

SO MANY OPTIONS
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Truly the Dex Souls 3 this time
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>>171916196
NOW ITS TIME FOR REAL KATANAS! AS MANY AS YOU CAN CARRY!
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>>171916062
Doubtful you'd find anyone consistently for either of those, but Dancer might have a chance. Better off going to Dragonslayer armor, Twin Princes or Nameless King.
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>>171916196
The infusion didn't affect anything about weapon balance, framedata is what made CCS and WP so good.
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>>171916093
Why does it matter? Just respec.
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Sharp gems are really fucking irritating to farm
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I do not fucking understand katanas in this game.
They are for cutting shit and yet, they are used like a fucking spear in this game. Fucking...
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>>171916327
either kill skellys or those bitches in the first dlc, nice
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reminder that FROMSoft is the same company that buffed DkS2 Chaos Blade in an April 1st patch and it turned out to actually not be an April Fool's joke
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>>171902981

Time to make a GARO build.
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>>171916263
This
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Did the crow quills damage get nerfed? I don't remember the old numbers but it seems pretty low now.
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I'm surprised and fairly disappointed that this patch isn't bringing any corrections to weapon scaling or something of the sort.

I want my Faith version of Onyx Blade, From. Get on that.
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>>171916561

It lost about 30 AR from Sharp infusion.
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>>171916462
That's a great idea! What sword you thinking? PGS?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFpNPoe2hm4
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redpill me on the dragonslayer spear
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So what are the unviable weapons that are now slightly usable? Just greathammers?
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>>171916593
That sucks, it was one of the few weapons in the whole game pre-patch that actually benefited more from a sharp infusion over refined under nearly any circumstance.
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>>171916623
It is a spear and the charge does 700+ damage to heavy armor build
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>>171916186
>>171916257
Also, which other covenant i should try besides Warrior Of Sunlight?
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What's the symbol under the lifebar that's like a dark grey vertical ellipse? Almost looks like one of the stat rings.
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>>171916712
im wondering the same, halp.
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>>171916462
Dude, if you used CE you could hack it to where you start every fight with the dragon roar when you transform into a dragon. That would be fucking awesome!
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>tfw waiting for the PC patch to hit just so I can get the weapons early with CE
>tfw want to spoil myself early
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>>171916712
post a picture dumbass
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>>171916687
Doesn't matter at all
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>>171916836
You're not alone, anon.
>mfw the new weapons aren't in the patch
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We did it reddit
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>>171916712
>>171916823
What rings do you have on?
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w-what
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>>171903409

Did Lothric Knight Great Sword get a buff?

I could already get 1000 AR with it.
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>>171916916
seriously doubt they'd change the way they approach PC patches right now when every single DLC has had their content pre-loaded and accessible in the patch before release
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>>171916941
I feel like its not long enough.
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>>171902981
I have waited for so long
for the winds of change to come
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>>171916943
it's not a ring, armor weapon or covenant.
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So did it happen? Did they make Strength weapons great again or not?
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>>171917002
How? Hypermode?
>>171917074
Take a screencap.
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>>171916712
Isn't that the evil eye symbol?
Or just the in general hp on kill/hit or fp on kill/hit
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I haven't played since mid 2016
In light of the new patch, which build should I play preparing for TRC
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>>171917113
Heavy gem is a lot better but now sharp gem is balling so hard out of control that it is more powerful than the refined gem.
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That's a nice hiding spot you got there m8.
It'd be a shame, if someone [bullied you in/spoiler]
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>>171917113

>Heavy Exile GS at 66 STR has just below 700 AR
>can combo a jumping attack into an R1 and possibly even full WA combos

You tell me.
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>>171916665
It's still pretty good, and now has the highest critical mod in the game with the slight dagger crit nerf
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>DaS3 gets a Pro patch
>BB doesn't
By the way, here's a video of how it runs on the Pro with the latest patch:

https://youtu.be/SdD5d4L-zow

Seems to get 40-60 fps, with some dips below 40 when shit gets intense.
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>>171917178
>>171917196
I was more curious about ultra weapons, since they have lower stamina costs and are faster now, or something. I just want to be a fat fuck.
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>>171917203
BB would probably have to take a graphical downgrade in some respect to get that kind of performance.
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>>171916963
Time to go do something else for ~3 or so hours

Maybe sleep? Watch TV? Other vidya? Who knows
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How is Heavy Astora Greatsword now?

still way worse than refined or is it just slightly not as good?
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>>171917257

Heavy Greatsword now has more AR than FUGS at 60 STR. Great Hammer heavy infusions got buffed slightly in general. All R1s of UGS/Great Hammers and maybe Greataxes got a momentum/speed buff and less stamina per attack. Some WA like Stomp are also faster.
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This one?
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>>171917049
shut up soraka
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So we're still gonna have 1 meta weapon that dominates everything else, right?
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>>171917291
i guess ill just touch myself
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>>171917342
i have a asimilar icon but a dark gray colored one, what does it means?
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>b-but it's not a plume, it's Ornstein's hair
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>>171917342
>>171917428
Password's still on.
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>>171917428
>>171916712

it means you have password matchmaking on.
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>>171917203
That's pretty significant for consoles. I wonder if it will break anything. Also how would it interact with original ps4 30fps in pvp
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>>171904570
Still parryable as fuck.
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>>171917474
Aww simple stuff.
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>>171917342
>tfw they won't fix the arms on the drakeblood set
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>>171917473
>>171917474
godbless you two famalam
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>>171917480
I'm pretty sure i remember something about FPS increases with pro wouldn't be available for multiplayer interactions with standard because of the obvious advantage, no idea if that's the case with DS3 though.
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>>171917430
who the heck are you quoting
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Confirmed shit in the latest patch
- Heavy and Sharp infusion almost always guarantee S in their respective stat unless it was an E or D initially
- Poison and Bleed infusion now add 50 - 120 of their respective element depending on weapon type
- Refined doesn't seem to go above C/C now
- Poison does 7 to 9 damage per second and toxic does 17.

I need confirmation on other things
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>>171903715
If you run around the second tree near the cliff by the graveyard, he'll follow you and then fall off eventually. It might take two or three passes for him to fall.
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Why do people even care about the ultra buff, they're still too slow to hit anybody with.
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>>171917529
it's my favourite set just because of the trim and little cape but it's still fucked.
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>>171917605
hyper armor m8
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Hopefully quality builds wont be the standard anymore, it would be nice to have some variety in builds again.
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Are Silver Knight weapons in or not?
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>>171917703
no, and never will be
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>hollow quality is still good
I'm ok with this
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When does the patch go live on pc?
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>>171917919
8 minutes.
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>tfw no blue eye orb
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>>171917950
really?
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>>171917919
1 hour 7 minutes

Servers might be down for a while
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Anyone gonna datamine the patch tonight?

I wanna be spoiled on everything tonight, get cracking nerds.
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>>171918008
>>171918008
>>171918008
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>>171917951
SHUT UP IT MIGHT STILL HAPPEN
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>>171917951
>failed to invade
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>>171918038
it won't, because the game doesn't have a fuckin sin system
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>>171917650
Does anything have DeS GAxe levels of hyper armor?
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What fashion lets you go full Deus Vult?
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>>171915459
I may work on a new twink now, was tired of making warriors anyway.

So something for the 10-25 range avelyn side arm and pontiff knight CS
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>>171916345
Almost like they have a pointy end

Fucking weeb
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>>171916345
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Why the fuck won't my patch download
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>>171910256
>he is complaining about 7Mb
Bitch, I have 600 Kb, and I'm not living in a third world country
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>>171921734
Read it again faggot. There's clearly a decimal point in front of the 7
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