/fhg/ - For Honor General

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>>171790105
Buff Lawbringer.

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first for valk butt

SECOND FOR BUY STEEL

1st for i have married nobushi and i am gonna make babies with her tonight

What about the highlander leak

>>171790296
all of the leaks are most likely false and just a photoshoop

>>171790296
>implying the 'leak' is real
>implying that it's not more important to RIOT ABOUT STEEL REEEEE

why is reddit throwing such a shitfit over steel? like who the fuck cares about cosmetics. every moba does the same thing and nobody gives a shit. overwatch does it too with rng, which is even worse. but cause its ubisoft everyone has to REEEEEEE

i mean i'd prefer it if there was more steel rewards but im not gonna shit my pants over it

>>171790212
oh ya thats funny

What kind of sword does warden even use ? Is it long-/bastard-/great sword?

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>>171790227
Filthy barbarian probably doesn't even wipe, bitch has years of dried, crusted shit hanging to her ass hairs.

I'll stick to superior, civilized waifus

>>171790608
I'm into that tho

>>171790661
Get out of that and into a grave you degenerate.

>>171790564
Because they paid $60-100 for the game, and they're not allowed to easily earn everything.

>>171790564
steel is required to upgrade gear which directly impacts gameplay

those other games you mentioned are just cosmetic with no bearing on gameplay

Reposting

>raider grab attack gives him full steering and goes on until he hits a object
>can't throw off edges anymore

Thoughts?

>>171790791
gear score isnt as bad as people make it out to be

besides the only good game mode doesnt have gear score. brawl is life.

>20 minutes and can't find a match
Fuck me

>>171790590
Longsword.

>>171790802
>carry enemy from one side of sanctuary bridge to the other

>>171790913
>gear score isnt as bad as people make it out to be
its huge

going from my 20 gearscore character to my 108 is like going from an ant to a god

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9ocAUQnNdE

Posting a random song for mood.

Why was there never a fucking full version?

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>Ara ara anon~
>What are you doing in this match all alone? Did you come here just so I bleed you?
>Why anon, I think you might enjoy our little one on ones...

Why do i have the same orders as 2 days ago?

>>171790973
ded game

>>171790913
>gear score doesn't mean anything
>revenge builds exist
>max throw builds exist

It's like you are trying to be stupid or something

>>171791404
i didnt say it meant nothing i mean you can still win while undergeared. i do it all the time.

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>Almost every classes starter gear looks better than all their other gear options
Why is this allowed?

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>57/60 gear inventory /!\

>>171791647
this has to be increased, theres not even enough room to have 1 of each purple armor piece

>>171791567
not the case for valk
>that punisher helm
god tier

So... when will they fix the matchmaking?

>>171791748
When they fix PK

>>171791519
Yeah, if you use a broken ass character or the other person is a retard

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>>mfw I buy the year long champion status and the XL steel pack five times
>>mfw the game is going to die in a couple weeks

>>171791748
They've been working on it on the back end. The big thing is that they're in the process of rebalancing gear right now. Their internal statistics are showing that gear is having an active impact on matches, and that's never been the intention.

>>171791992
>falling for it this fucking hard

>>171791992
i dont believe you

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>mfw lawbringer buff

MORE CUSTOM SLOTS WHEN

3 IS NOT ENOUGH REEEEEEEEEEEE

>>171791992
It's ok anon, you can still play against bots.

lol

Why the actual fuck do executions not have i-frames for the whole animation? And why cannot I cancel if I'm being hacked to death?

>>171790608
her head seems bit too small for her height

>>171791727
There are only 3 sets of purple armor, no idea about weapon but I assume its the same.

>>171792279
They definitely shouldn't have i-frames, but I agree that it's pretty stupid that you can't cancel an execution.

Can you tech if someone GBs you in the animation? Never get to test it out because I just get smacked by heavies.

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Reminder, all Peacekeeper players are secretly wanton sluts who lust for/want to be impregnated by Kang dick.

>>171792338
all the blue and base sets come in purple form too

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Leaked upcoming Warden set and male Nobushi with new armor

>>171792570
>I'm okay with this.
In fact just replace all amour and weapons in game with Dank Souls shit

>>171792528
>secretly

>>171792570
>one handed Warden with a proper greatsword
fuck I want this

>>171792570
Just think about all the role-playing retards in brawl matches
>one nobushi with that armor
>one shugoki

god please help me calm these faggots down

this game was never meant to be popular

just bless me with the right words to say to send them back to rocket league

>>171792643
>with a proper greatsword
you dense motherfucker the historically accurate longsword the warden uses is what video game players would qualify as a "greatsword"

>>171792691
>shugoki with smough armor
i want it

>>171792738
proper for a videogame playing faggot like me

>>171792691
PREPARE FOR TROUBLE

>>171792738
The longsword is two handed but isn't a greatsword. Greatswords are even bigger.

>>171792789
ahaha what a faggot!

>>171792338
there are 6 sets of purple weapons
plus >>171792558

While we're on the topic of Steel, how high do the Steel costs get as you approach the max gear level?

>>171792338
>>171792902
oops actually 7

>>171790802
memetastic

>>171792816
AND MAKE IT DOUBLE

>>171792570
It still won't get a plume

>>171792558
>>171792902
>>171792998
There are 4 sets of armor and 3 tiers
3 of the sets get progressively better
4th set is default gear with stats.

>Fighting in Elim because I'm a masochist
>Winning first duel
>Valk rams me and a PK with extra bleed(like they need it) jump stabs me to oblivion
My salt mines are the most abundant on earth

>>171793324
http://alfalis.de/For_Fashion/#

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>4v4 is unplayable without 108 gear score
>raider is unplayable outside 4v4

>>171793345
Anon valk only has one bleed attack and it's a deflect-heavy.
Their 'extra bleed' is literally all their bleed ever.

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>>171792570
>tfw Dark Souls stuff is perfect for everything

>Kensei as Sir Alonne

>Playing game
>Throw someone off ledge
>Goes wtf no honor
>say "he didnt fly so good"
he left, was that memey enough?

What happened to the baa~ posters?

>>171793603
>posters
>s

>>171793490
Uhh? Thanks for proving my point?

>>171793491
>tfw just watched this scene yesterday

>>171793496
No, I meant a peacekeeper sharpened her blades as the valk used her all-guard ram to knock me over, then peacekeeper let me die in .5 seconds

>>171790564
Because this is a $60 game with a cash shop designed like a free game. Yes, most things are cosmetic, but it's fucking nonsense that they do this to try to encourage microtransactions in a full priced game.
And upgrading gear is a necessity in 4v4 and that costs several thousand per character
>>171790913
>Gear score isn't as bad as people make it out to be
You can literally get revenge several times in 1v1 fights and two shot people in revenge mode, while being an unkillable tank in revenge thanks to revenge mode defense.
And those are just the revenge stats, there are other stats like attack, defense, stamina cost reduction, stamina regen, exhaustion recovery, that make a MASSIVE difference.

>>171793661
there are more than 4 sets and way more weapon sets

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>There's weebs in this very thread who play Samurai
>There's leddit scum in this very thread who play vikings
Explain yourselves

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*ATTENTION XBROS*
There is now an /fhg/ club on xbox
If you would like to join either look up:
For Honor General Official
OR
add metalkid267 and i will invite you to the club

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>>171793863
d-desu vult!

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>>171794028
Iron child pls leave

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>>171793863
>not playing as a Viking
>not going to Valhalla
You are doing it wrong.

>>171793491
speak for your self
>main Raider
>People say Raider is no good in duel
>destroy people in duels with him

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>>171794327
>playing filthy unwashed barbarians

>>171793724
No there are not

There are 4 sets that get upgraded with each tier.

>>171794456
do you not have a rep 3 character

>>171794443
>implying knights were so honorable
nigga you heard of the crusades?

>>171794426
HOW
YOU HAVE TO ZONE ATTACK AFTER A GB TO CONFIRM A HEAVY
YOU LITERALLY CANT LAND THEM ANYWAY ELSe

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>>171794290
FINE I WILL JUST GO.
see you next thread:^)

>>171794615
Just stun people to death with heavy into light mix up

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>>171794069
>M-muh kawai waifu
You sir are the lowest form of scum, only attacking Jerusalem can redeem you now

>>171794562
>you heard of the crusades?
Yes, what's your point?

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>>171794715
GO AND STAY GO

>>171794562
>>muh evil crusades
>>muh poor muslims
Nigga you ever heard of Tours?

>>171794562
Your point being?

>>171794797
>>>muh poor muslims
You know that they killed europeans right?

>>171794797
I lover going on tours and seeing the sites, what's your point?

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>>171794797
>muh poor muslims

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>>171794730
this is my wife you are speaking off
watch your tongue knave

>>171794615
become the parry king
>>171794727
and this, mix light attacks in too and just pinch off the health

>there are people itt who think Knights isn't Reddit faction

>>171795017
Samurai is for weebs and tryhards
Vikings is for nu-males and 14 year old metal kids
Knights are for fun and don't have le kewl factor like the other factions

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>>get 50 takedowns in elmination
>>been stuck on 49 for two days
>>keep getting kicked from games, sometimes almost immediately after it starts
Jesus fuck just let me play this stupid game.

>>171795145
>d-deus vult

>>171795145
how are weebs tryhards, none of their classes are top tier

>>171795169
>Need executions in elimination
>Executions are damn near impossible because everyone sticks together, and when I find someone alone my teammates come over and steal the fucking kill
Life is suffering

>>171795145
i choose vikings because i want to attain the viking physical level natty

Fuck you alien218 I know you are on here

>>171795337
Weebs are actually the most balanced faction overall.

>>171795337
because all their players wish they could be those classes in real life

>>171795434
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXdNnw99-Ic

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I wish Kensei was a knight so I could play Warden and Kensei in the same faction

>>171795567
I'm a kensei looking for warden bros
Let's fuck up the savages together

>>171795502
>implying knightfags doesn't want to go off to crusade
Nobody is truly Weeb anymore unlike in 2009

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Post em

>>171795337
the majority of samurai who can't play orochi pick PK

just keep an eye on their crests

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>>171795145
I mean there is the "eight crusade soon, death to all mudshits, deus vult!" factor

Knights are basically the /pol/ faction

>>171795665
that's so good im surprised you shared it on this board

it's insanely good. keep it to yourself

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>>171795630
fuck savages, all of them scream at you and try jumping you every opportunity they get

>>171795703
>30 seconds long
>only the last 10 seconds are actually anything

Why.

>>171795858
Wasn't that hard to make friendo
I'd be alright seeing more moon men desu

>>171795923
Knocked my teammate into the pool in the beginning.

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im starting to really like ken, now that i know his whole kit (things i didnt know was the dash out of unblockable and just how GOOD his vanguard dash property is).

hes a ton of fun, i took him into dominion with almost no gearscore and cleaned up just by abusing tech against people and it felt pretty great

>odd
Everyone now have Warden's Zone attack
>even
Everyone now have LB's Zone attack

>>171796321
>implying you dont want legendary raider zone attack

>>171796321
NO

i want everyone to have law's

>>171796031
stop it

its hard

there is an inclination to being able to do this that a lot of people just dont have

like as much as i hate art and hippies i recognize there is something different going on

Can shug not get wallsplat?

I just impaled one into a wall but nothing fucking happened.

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>>171795665

So its pretty much confirmed that no patches will be made live until the end of the season, right?

When is the end of the season?

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>>171795665

Postan'

>>171794715
NO PLEASE STAY METALKID

PLEASE

>>171796045
>didn't clip the areas that you actually wanted to show to cut out like 15 seconds of useless video

>>171796883
Ah shit, is that true? I was hoping for a balance patch before the season is over. I think it's several weeks away from ending.

>>171795886
If that dumbass had gone for a single side-dash you would have been fucked.

>>171795630
post ign im a warden bro

>>171796845
the game is poorly-made

i can't count how many times i've fucked a person into a wall only to not get the animation reaction nor the sound effect and it's just like nothing

same thing with the inconsistent downed speed

the game is deeply fucked on all levels and i'm glad you brought this up because sometimes walls aren't walls but ring-outs are always ring-outs if you're inside of 5ft.

terrible coding

>>171790105
>when a game has microtransaction options that cost more than the game itself
W E W

>>171796883
like mid or late April, i think probably wrong

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>>171795793
>implying that's not why I picked it

>tfw for honor will never give mass refunds no mans sky style

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Top secret For Honor Season 2 DLC sneak preview
but you didn't hear it from me

>>171797503
But FH is a good game buried under an avalanche of useless p2p and broken characters. NMS was a big bag of nothing.

>>171797503
FH also didnt lie to their audience.

>>171797650
I wonder if that shark knows its about to get ZA'd

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>5k players
LMAO. it just keeps going lower

>>171797848
eventho I still come here
I dont even play the game anymore
its just become unfun and more like a chore

>>171793863
>>>/r/deusvult/

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>>171797981
I find it funny that the game is dying at such an amazing rate, literally NMS levels of people leaving

but at the same time i'm fucking pissed that it's the same game I payed full price for

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>when you have 20 minutes to kill and no zerker ref

>making shit for a dead game

>>171795858
I saw moon man like 1 day after release

>tfw join brawl and your teammate is a bot
>other team runs to gank the bot first then spams good fight as they gank you

this game is killing my blood pressure

>>171797780
this is the big point

FH hype was built by fighting game burnouts and white kids who got sick of overwatch for their competitive itch in a popular game.

all they needed to do was shake the game up two weeks ago but they let it rot on the vine because faggots on reddit protested the cosmestic buys

i think ubisoft is in over their heads and requires community design-by-committee by me and the other unpaid interns

but cosmetic microtransactions are the most wasteful places for your energy.

but youre spot-on with this posting

>>171797780
Actually the beta lied to everyone. The game shaped into something completely different.

>>171795145
>Vikings is for 14 year old metal kids
But anon, metalkid267 is a Knight

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>>171798261
Pretty good, though I might've gone for a more immediately-recognizable-silhouette viking myself

So when does /fhg/ just become a half-aborted circlejerk of smut and ERP again because the game does seem to be fucking dying.

how in the mother fuck are those 2 maps still disabled

>>171798812
Never. It'll become another one of those slow /vg/ threads where posts will be made only to bump it off page 10.

>>171798812
maybe in a year it will become good
just like Siege

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>Fem conq has no (or at least almost no) porn
fem conq is purest waifu, PK and Nobushi cucks go home.

Why does the law's light > heavy > ad mortem do as much damage as a normal heavy? Shouldn't it do more, seeing as how you're never going to land it on a competent enemy?

>>171798564
you must've played a different beta then i did, because the only thing that changed to me was some character buffs and nerfs

>>171799270
It's only used to bait out a no stam parry. You wont find anyone even bothering to parry it either considering you can just dodge it in any direction.

At most you get the favorable no stam parry into overhead which deals more damage than just the ad mortem.

Do unblockables nullify deflects?

she's ded jimbo

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>watch skys stream
>see this
this game is fucking AWFUL. new players just get completely shit on

>>171798830
well you're only expected to play 1 or 2 maps

>even iskys, the games #1 fanboy, is shitting on the game now
this game is in big trouble

>>171800562
yeah he pretty much went on a 10 min rant on why ubisoft is shit. based

but seriously, what the fuck was that matchmaking

>It's a PK back dashes every attack episode
>It's a PK or nobushi bleeds you until you can't survive then run away episode
>It's an enemy leaves when you throw them off the map because they threw you off first episode

>>171800301
This right here is why none of my friends play anymore. I tried to hide the 4v4 game modes from them as long as I could, but when they tried a few game of Dominion/Elim and got fucking stomped every single time by 4(108) people, they lost all love they had for the game.

>>171800301
This is what has me convinced they never playtested this shit, or at the very least not for long.
This game is so fucking uninviting to new comers, you're stuck to doing duels or brawl, otherwise you'll get fucking destroyed by people who have high level gear. And the worst part is you can't even just spend your steel on gear right away, you have to grind ALL the way to rep 3 before that's even an option

>>171801159
and to get to rep 3 while not being at a major disadvantage you have to play duel or brawl, which both give fuck all for exp

>>171799251
I really like fem conq, but I can't play conq as well as everyone and already got my femzerker rep 3, so I'll get stuck with gear score 60+ players

What the FUCK is wrong with honorfags.

Go fucking play something else.

>>171801778
>telling anyone to go play something else
>when the ship is sinking

>>171801778
there IS nothing else
video games are kill

>>171801778
4v4: You're right
2v2: Go fuck yourself, you're ruining games

>people talking about how warden is going to have his side lights, vortex power, overhead light damage, and zone all nerfed next patch
is this real?

if it is, will warden even be playable? I doubt it.

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>Try to play dominion
>ruined by gear and shitty netcode and shitty balance
>try to play deathmatch modes
>ruined by gear and ganksquads and honorfags and shitty netcode and shitty balance
>try to play brawl
>ruined by honorfags and somehow also gank squads and shitty balance
>try to play duel
>it's fine

>>171802102
We'll see who the fairweather wardens are.

>>171801980

>2v2: Go fuck yourself, you're ruining games

>Win my fight instantly
>Go gangbang the other shitter

why don't you just git gud???

Alright I need some cunts to play with that are also willing to be a Steam friend, anyone interested?
I don't care if you're bad, just no salt mines.

>>171802102
>>171802162
Any word on what nerfs conq will be getting?

>>171802102
>side lights nerfed

Why? They're too slow to land outside of GBs/Shoulder Bashes and they deal less damage than the similar Orochi top lights.

>overhead light damage nerfed
Why? 15 damage is in no way outrageous for a standard-speed light attack.

>>171802107
>fine
>when the maps are DESIGNED to net roughly half your kills as ENV shit
>and you only fight ONE person, with no class-changes mid-game, no lobby, no nothing, just fighting a single person for 8 minutes at a time

>>171802420
doesnt he get a double light

>>171802248
>throws a fag off a ledge and thinks he deserves a reward
>ganks
You're the one that needs crutches.

>>171802465
Landing a side light guarantees a second.

Orochi has the exact same thing except on upper, and that has the same speed as Wardens upper and also hits much harder.

Nerfing side lights makes literally no sense.

>>171802465
He does, for a whopping 15+9 damage.

Orochi gets 17+15.

>>171802656
well he gets it for free off a shoulder bash which cancels into another bash

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>>171802643

Throwing a fag off a ledge is it's OWN reward.
Never, ever gets old.

>>171802102
I don't think this is real. Unless someone can point me to where Ubi said this, I'm going to assume its not.

Hell, during the Dev Stream, they were going on about how much they like Warden.

WHATS THE NEW GLOBAL EVENT?

Reward of 2000 steel, but it doesn't say what the objective is yet.

>>171802739
Reminder that GB'ing shug players breaks their super-armor, even if they counter it.
Bully them mercilessly.

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>>171802746
People only hate Warden because he's one of the big 4 good characters, and their main isn't. I blame Lawposters.

We don't need every character to be brought down to shit, we need every character brought up to good.

>>171802814
To continue playing.

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>Every single Order is for the shit modes
>Always

>>171802746
>how much they like Warden.
Most classes get one or 2 gimmicks, Warden has 2 gmmick starters, the vortex gimmick, 3rd highest HP, oh and let's not forget the zone.

>>171802912
Maybe they shouldn't have charged a full (FULL) 60$ & then included a cash shop anyway.

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>>171802912

>>171802873
i think people dont like him because its just a constant guessing game when fighting him

>>171802975
>3rd highest HP
Why would you lie on the internet, Anon?

>oh and let's not forget the zone
Not even in the top 3 most bullshit zones.

>>171802935
>90% of the class-restrictions are for assassins & hybrids
>90 fucking %
None of my vanguards are rep-2 yet.
Only reason they're rep 1 is because the game-mode orders are ONLY 75% deathmatch, so they still get used in the 10% that are dominion.

>>171801778
I don't understand 4v4 honorfags at all because of gear, pickups, and feats being essentially an "I win fuck you" button.
But that's okay, it's a deathmatch mode where there's supposed to be lots of kills and deaths for both sides.

2v2 is a little more understandable because of no powerups and equalized stats.
I respect people who want the option of pairing off, but sometimes I'll intentionally provoke people at the start to make it actually 2v2, and not 1v1+1v1.
Doing it halfway cause you're losing though is kind of a shitpull though.

>>171803120
Warlord, PK, and roach?

>>171803120
its definitely top 3

>>171802656
it does when WAHHHHHH NURF WAHDUN HE TOO OP I CANT DADGE FOR SHEIT HE OH PEE PWEZE NUWF HIM HE TOO STWONG ALSO BUFF LAWBRIGNR SO HES 100 DAMAGE ON LIGHT ATTACKS ITS ONLY FAIR CMON

seriously i had a fag say that warden deserved all those nerfs and i only disagreed cause i played warden

and then he said to make up for it, warden "still has his fully charged power attack bash combo, so you'll be fine"

he tried to make me believe any player would get hit by hit "because of the surprise factor" and despite how often I dodged it and countered him in a 1v1, he kept saying it was good and that I was wrong for no reason.

Seriously, Warden is unfair atm, but the VAST majority of the people who complain about him are seriously overhyping his power.

>Gear level of 6
>Fighting a 108 Kensei
>GB him, ready for a deathblow
>He pops revenge and shits on me
>Repeats this twice
>Eventually someone ganks Kensei
>He starts whining in chat about dishonor
YOU FUCKING HAD TO USE REVENGE AS A 108 AGAINST A LEVEL 6 MULTIPLE TIMES AND YOU'RE WHINING ABOUT CHEESE?

Really, what?

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>>171803096
The game needs more ambiguous moves to open up defensive players. The fact that Warden can actually kill people by using his core class design means he's a character they actually got right.

Look at the core class design of some of the shitter classes like Berserker, who is unironically supposed to spam attacks and somehow not eat shit and get parried.

>>171803349
>core class design
I didn't realize screwing with your opponents UI counts as feature

>>171802162
Like over half.
Comparatively a lot of people actually want to play the quintessential historic knight class, but a ton who just learned the class because they heard about '>muh vortex' will just leave.

Not as bad as what'll happen to Valk when she's nerfed though, because like 95% of her players started after she was buffed.

>>171803192
Correct. All 3 are safe on block, Warlord can even kill people at 1 pip of health with his for some reason despite using a dinky little shortsword.

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I'm just a ledge machine
And I won't queue for nobody but you,
I'm just a ledge machine,
A huggin', bashin' fiend.
I think it's high time you knew,
Whenever I think of you,
My pad blows a fuse.
When I look in you eyes,
My meter starts to rise, and I become confused.
My voltage regulator cools,
When I'm sitting next to you,
Electricity starts to flow,
And my indicator starts to glow, wo
I'm just a ledge machine
And I won't queue for nobody but you,
I'm just a ledge machine,
A huggin', headbuttin' fiend.
Na, na na na na, na na na na, woo-woo-wooo
Na, na na na na, na na na na, na naaah
I'm just a ledge machine
And I won't queue for nobody but you,
I'm just a ledge machine,
A huggin', kickin' fiend.
I'm gentle as a lamb,
I'm not that hard to program,
There's no way that you can lose,
Na, na na na na, na na na na, woo-woo-wo
Na, na na na na, na na na na, na naaah
I'm just a ledge machine

>>171803187
>2v2
Also understandable because the duel mode is garbage.

>4v4 honorfags
It's become a thing where teams will go all-out until it's a 1v3-4 at the end, then let them put up as much of a fight as they can.
Meh, I can understand it but I don't mind either way.

>>171803349
>blind light parry
good
>fashion
bad

>>171802162
>>171803457
i might actually play warden if hes less bandwagony because i love the way he looks

>>171803438
It's a bug that literally every character can do, and is equally broken on Orochi, and worse on PK. Get over yourself, anon.

That's not what he was talking about and you know it.

>>171803485
I even reduced the amount of green on my tabard just for you, leave me alone.

>>171802102
make his fucking shoulder charge less of a zero risk guessing game and he'll be fine

>>171803306
People can be both idiotic & unaware of norms.

>>171803637
or just have it cost a lot more stamina

>>171803627
Man I'm just shitposting wear what you want

As long as what you want to wear isn't piss green

>>171803485
The armor is okay, but he needs to lose the green puke.

>>171803349
As a Raider this triggers me.

>>171802102
If they nerf Warden, then this game is surely dead. He's arguably the strongest balanced hero in the game right now, nerfing him would mean Ubisoft has NO IDEA what they want the game to be.

>>171802162
>take away all their tools
>hero becomes a lawbringer with no shove or grab
let's just make every character shit, then we'll see who the true for honor players are!

>>171803349
>he doesn't know about muh dash-feints

>>171790608
>Medieval yuropeans
>Hygiene

>>171803637
Just make a whiffed bash have longer recovery so it can be punished. This will encourage Wardens to use the safer GB cancel option more often, which will in turn make them more predictable unless they go for the higher-risk raw bash.

>>171803767

No, no he is not.
There is NO argument to be made that Warden is balanced.

He's just the least broken character with easy, low-risk mixup.

>>171803457
I think you overestimate the number of players who only picked her up after the buff AND the likelyhood of a nerf AND the severity of said hypothetical nerf

If they do ANYTHING it'd be slight, and she'd stay that way forever.
Which means no shedding of excess players.

>>171803637
>is slow enough to react to
>extremely vulnerable to side dash moves
>backdashing is a free punish if the Warden isn't at pointblank
>gets 24 damage if the Warden makes a 1/3 guess
damn, i wish everything was slow and blockable and no one has any reason to attack instead

oh wait, that's right now, why the game is dying, shithead

>>171803746
>As a Raider this triggers me.
Why? Looks like a clean exchange unless I'm missing something in the webm

>>171803767
Spotted one. :^)

>>171800301
>lrn2parry

>>171804015
>dashing
yeah, if he doesn't gb cancel

fuck off, warden

>>171803767
Warden should be nerfed. At the VERY LEAST his shoulder charge needs a nerf.

As for Lawbringer, I would really like to see something done with shove. Landing one should confirm SOMETHING, even if its just a light. Also Lawbringers raw damage needs to be raised by quite a bit.

>>171803982
on ps4 i literally saw 1 valk every 30 games or so, including 4v4s, before the nerf

>>171803740
>only 5 more rep levels until I get the good green option
The only thing making it worth the wait is that it can be used outside of duels

>>171803782
It was only the nobility that was retarded

>>171804115
How about we buff the shitters FIRST, and THEN see if the already strong classes STILL need a nerf once things stabilize?

>>171804115
shove is way too spammable to be allowed to confirm anything, except maybe a long arm into the confirmed light because it costs a million stamina

>but conq and warlord
those fucks are broken

>>171803859
Nothing about Warden is broken, or even unbalanced. He just has strong tools, and using that toolkit will win you games.

That the above methodology doesn't apply to almost any other character(except maybe Valk), is a sign that this game needs serious help.

>>171804115
More stamina cost on shoulder is fine, but they need to really rework the game overall to make the less-powerful characters viable. Feinting costs no stamina, attacking costs less stamina, blocking stop stamina regen, parrying doesn't drain any stamina, etc.

>>171804125
ps4 must be an odd culture then because it was no less than 1-in-5 on PC, despite her shitty performance.
She'd only been released for a short while before the patch hit, so people were still trying her out.

>>171804193
>Just 15 or so Reps left until I unlock Arise
h-haha

>>171804115
No, buff everyone else to Warden's level. More of the heroes should have good initiators and ways to open up enemies. Make feints harder to distinguish from a committed attack.

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>>171804114
the GB cancel doesn't happen soon enough to catch a backdash unless the Warden is literally touching you during the shoulder startup

t. rep 9 warden that's done a lot of mirrors

>>171804263
>Feinting costs no stamina, attacking costs less stamina, blocking stop stamina regen, parrying doesn't drain any stamina, etc.
these are all terrible suggestions except blocking stopping stam regen

>>171804310
>can feint at any point in a heavy's animation before damage
>feinting it later in the animation costs shitloads of stamina

>>171804257
Way too spammable? And warden shoulder isn't? Warlord headbut isn't?

Get real. Shove is miles worse than both of those because it costs more stamina, doesn't track the target nearly as well, doesn't move you forward nearly as much, and doesn't confirm into anything. Shove needs a buff, or Lawbringer damage needs a buff, or Lawbringer needs to straight up be immune to stagger from lights like Shugo, or all three.

>>171804423
Why? Currently, there is no downside to sitting there and waiting for something to react to. Trying to attack just gets you parried, which is why no one attacks.

Offense needs to be incentivized, defense needs to be your fallback, not your primary. This is why all the viable characters either have fast unblockable hits, or guessing game mixups that require the opponent to act.

>>171804039
The feinted Zone takes half his stamina and can only be cancelled super early in the animation.
After landing the stun he was still open to being parried on the light attack which led to him getting hit with a free heavy.

After the whole exchange he was already out of stamina again despite just recovering from exhaustion.

>>171804561
all any of that stuff would do is make PK even better

>>171804547
I was thinking this exactly.

>>171804614
>After landing the stun he was still open to being parried on the light attack which led to him getting hit with a free heavy.
This is why you might as well pretend the "Stun" effect doesn't exist and doesn't add any power budget to a move. People will just look at your animation instead of the indicator.

how is the game going to survive if nothing will be fixed until the season ends?

>>171804547
just put in fucking chip damage already

>>171804552
LB Shove is confirmed off of blocks and heavy hits, which would mean if he's ever attacked, or lands a heavy, he gets free damage. It might be pretty broken.

>>171804626
No shit, this is why people have been saying for months to change PK's zone, as any offensive buffs(which the majority of the roster fucking needs) would completely break her.

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Same PK main from previous threads, still looking for more challengers.

uplay pk_is_skill

Why do a lot of higher skill Wardens not use the vortex? They just side heavy off guard break, heavy again, and cancel that heavy into something else

>>171804854
because they can initiate vortex whenever they want, no reason to give up damage for it

>>171804854
Because Vortex is actually pretty in the favor of the defender.

>>171804854
Depends, various reasons.

Most often because you're fighting an Assassin and don't want to bother with shoulder bash feint into side dash attack parry mindgame bullshit.

Also a side heavy into heavy feint deals more damage than double side light into heavy feint - if you really want to do that feint, the side heavy is the better option since neither path will link into another bash anyway.

is it nearly impossible to actually ever land the 90 damage Raider stamina punish?

Where do you look up the number of people playing for honor on the ps4/xbox?

>>171805047
You dont

>>171805047
you cant anymore

>>171805040
The what? Are you sure you're not thinking of Berserker?

>>171804854
because the defender has a 2/3 chance of getting out + a punish

it's actually quite bad unless you're trying to force a hard read, most Wardens will shoulder > lights > feint shoulder and nothing more, since most lights beat it every time

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Where is my roman?

>>171805040
nah you should be able to get throws consistently when mixed in with the zone attack mixups

>>171805205
Source this gif?

>>171805040
If raider back throws someone while in the left guard stance, and the opponent is out of stamina so they fall to the ground, you immediately input the command for a left heavy and you have enough time to ALSO use a zone right after - 90 damage

It's just so hard for me to actually get someone to fall for a grab while they're out of stamina, and the fact that you HAVE to be in the left stance makes it harder

>>171804790
Shove doesn't do any damage, and doesn't confirm into anything that does damage. That's its fucking problem. It doesn't even function as a 'stamina drain' move because it drains fuck all stamina, costs you MORE stamina to use, and doesn't interrupt the enemies stamina regen like damage does, but it does interrupt YOUR stamina regen. Its a shit ability.

Ideally, shove should either confirm into an untechable guardbreak, or into a side heavy like GB does.

It seems like there are three paths we could take to make THE LAW good again.
A. We can confirm his status as a counter-attacker, and give him the ability to punish people who attack him by allowing shove to confirm into some form of damage. This would give him the ability to reliably damage the enemy when they attack him, because if he blocked he could follow up with shove and confirmed damage, and if he parries he can get an untechable guardbreak -> side heavy combo. I favor this approach.
B. We can make him more like Shugo with super armor, allowing him to trade hits others.
C. We can make him more like Conq or Warlord in using Shove to confirm into light hits that he can do over and over.

>>171804790
>all characters do chip on heavy attacks to punish not parrying/dodging
>let one hero do chip on lights for like half damage or something
Would this be fair? I imagine that would be an interesting trait to have on Highlander.

>>171805205
>>171805317
I think I've seen it before and I think it's a boy, in either case I would also like to see the whole thing.

>>171805336
>Ideally, shove should either confirm into an untechable guardbreak, or into a side heavy like GB does.
you must be shitting me

>>171805138
Why not?

Is it safe to assume xbox and ps4 also have about 5-10k players?

>>171804193
>>171804306
>just 4 more reps till I get the granny smith option

Then I could rep my favorite color and meme a conq who wears convict orange for his tabard.

>>171805317
minus8

>>171805329
meant for
>>171805170

>>171805425
I'm p sure it is.

That's why I asked.

>>171805441
You do realize shove has a huge wind up and is easily dodgable right? Getting smacked with one should be punishing.

>>171805519
do is conqs shield bash

>>171801778
Honorfags fucking ruin the game for me, and they're in EVERY mode
>Playing 2v2
>Enemy team gangbangs me after killing my teammate
>Next round my teammate finishes his guy before me and just watches me lose my fight, emoting the entire time I'm being executed
WHY WOULD YOU PULL THIS HONOR SHIT WHEN THE ENEMIES CLEARLY HAVE NO PROBLEM GANGBANGING?

>>171805336
Yes, it's why LB is hard to balance atm, adding damage onto Shove will make LB extremely strong to the point of breaking the game

>>171805441
to be fair, dodging Shove gives the defender an untechable GB

>>171805354
Shugoki already does that IIRC

>>171805543
doesn't have anywhere near the same range

>Permanent Suspension
>For Honor - PC
>Offense:

>Your account is now available for play, and the sanction taken has expired. Repeated violations will result in a permanent account closure.

>We will continue to monitor For Honor for inappropriate behavior, as well as take action as needed to preserve the integrity of game.

The fuck, I haven't played since the end of Round 1. What, they roll back my steel and rep while I was away?

>>171803767
>Warden is balanced
Spotted the Warden main. His shoulder bash needs a fucking nerf. My idea of fun isn't someone spamming a low stamina cost guessing game move over and over again that can't be punished

>>171805880
>can't be punished
hah

>>171805603
I regularly gank anyone who picks conq pk or warlord.

No point wasting honor on those fags.

>>171803306
There are some faggots who honestly believe gear doesn't make a difference. That or they're just pretending it doesn't so they can claim to be high skilled and scream that gear doesn't need a nerf.

>>171805880
Just press a light attack, retard. Unless you have the reaction time of a dead fish almost every character can stuff the Warden's shoulder or counter it entirely(Conq side dash > shield bash)

>>171806037
it grabs through lights

>>171805921
>Dodge the raw shoulder bash and follow up with a light, the warden blocks it
>Dodge the raw shoulder bash and follow with a GB, the warden techs it
>Predict the Wardens GB cancel and tech it, no punishment off that
There's no punishing it against a decent Warden. It's beyond ridiculous that immediately coming out of the bash he can block a dash attack

>>171806074
Literally impossible. Provide a webm of this violation of basic game mechanics happening or fuck off with your anecdotes.

>>171806074
but that's not how grabs work

Man PK's bleed needs to be significantly toned down. Either half the speed/twice the duration or 60% the damage.

>>171806037
>If I keep insisting this it must be true!
If it was as simple as spamming lights then no one would be bitching about Wardens vortex.

>>171806129
Agree 100%. As a LB if someone dodges my shove I can't just instantly block/parry their counter-attack.

>>171806147
>>171806219
It works if youre playing kensei
he grabs the side side dodge attacj like 1 out of 3 times too

>>171805963
I've started just refusing to fight PK's unless we're near a ledge. I'm tired of getting light spammed and having them brag like it's skilled

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>>171806074
even if you get hit with lights, you can recover fast enough to stuff the shoulder with a light if it's 500ms or less

this is why shoulder is a 1/3 guessing game for the warden, he has to predict your next move, not the other way around

>>171806251
yes, at higher skill levels everyone presses lights against the shoulder because a perfect counter is a lot harder to execute than a GB cancel

>>171806129
>light attack the Warden's face while he's in burnin' shoulders mode
>use a side dash attack if you're one of the 6 classes who can do this; if the Warden starts feinting into parries, just make HIM guess by doing empty dodges and parrying or GBing his parry attempts

Ironically Raider of all things is the best class for that second one.

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So, a bot just grabbed me out of a valk shield charge.
That a tech humans can do too?

How do i Shugoki? Just feint and parry? Seems impossible to land the charge in 1v1.

>>171806373
>Three vortex's in the spam of 15 seconds
Wow so skilled, totally not broken!

>>171803306
>Reach rep 3
>Spend 10K in Steel on premium packs
>Get up to 78 points in gear score when I was at 45
>Immediately play and notice revenge is activated at the faintest sniff of my ass
This is so broken, and if Ubi won't fix it soon then they better get used to the only people playing and buying their new dlc and updates to number in the dozens

>>171806579
They already made their money with the full-price shit.

>>171804824
Why are you namefagging?

>>171806367
If its duel or brawl I just leave the game if somoene picks PK or warlord. I don't give a shit.

If its dominion or some other game mode I won't leave, but I will use every opportunity to ledge those niggers.

>>171806570
My bad, 7 seconds. What high level warden play

>>171806548
Be a parrygod.

Learn how to land the charge for a free heavy.

Learn to exhaust people with your light>headbutt so you can bully them. Putting them on the floor with a toss lets you get a fully charged top heavy.

>>171806373
>he has to predict your next move, not the other way
or he could just cancel and not let you do anything. Warden doesn't have to give you a guessing game if he doesn't want to

>>171806636
And that is what saddens me, didn't the game director also subtley say the game was gonna go the way of titanfall, evolve and battleborn at one point

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>>171806570
>raider fails to dodge or use stunning tap
>raider fails to dodge or wait for GB cancel
>raider fails to dodge or use stunning tap
>raider beats the GB cancel by not dodging, could've also used stunning tap
Honestly, Warden is just anti-boring when the entire rest of the game is "sit there and wait for something to react to"

>>171806428
>>light attack the Warden's face while he's in burnin' shoulders mode
I have no idea why you assume the Warden charges this up within range of getting hit when he hasn't opened you up. He does it out of range, because his shoulder charge has enough range to reach you

>>171806807
Warden is easy mode because his vortex has no punishment. It's as simple as that.

>>171806701
I can usually handle a Warlord unless they're turtling for the parry and free GB. I just can't keep up with the PK light spam though, it's ridiculous.

Okay anons help me break this down. Kensei top heavy finisher

>Let it go
Will never land this, all block characters can react too fast for this to be useful

>Cancel into side heavy
Your best option but people can read this and parry, assassins can empty dodge through it (even though it technically hits both sides but we won't worry abotu that)

>Cancel into side
Has the exact same parry window as heavy, and is functionally identical for less damage, pointless

>Full cancel
Arguable the safest option really. Everything else you have is readable but only novice players will get caught off gaurd by this


I hear people saying you can dash out? Is there some trick to it or is it as simple as it sounds.

>>171806827
If a Warden uses Shoulder Bash from outside of melee range, you can literally walk backwards to not get hit.

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>>171806827
>He does it out of range, because his shoulder charge has enough range to reach you
this means you get to backdash and beat it for free, since a GB cancel won't reach a backdash unless it's a point blank shoulder, or just move backwards and it'll just cause a stumble

>>171806942
>charge shoulder
>instantly vulnerable
>have to input a feint pre-emptively if you think the opponent will stuff you, good luck doing that on reaction
nvm, Warden players confirmed for reactive gods

>>171807112
Cancel into GB. A lot of people will be too focused trying to pay attention to what you're going to do that they'll completely miss the tech

When you get high enough that you can no longer do that, then you just have to mindgames the shit out of your opponent and pray they don't reaction parry your nonsense.

>>171807154
you know you can charge it right and it goes like 15 yards

>>171807154
Oh I can walk backwards? Gee that sure punishes the Warden who is free to do it again, and again, and again as much as he wants because it costs no stamina, and you can't punish it if he misses.
And yes, some people are autistic enough to spam the move over and over again because they know there's no counter to it

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What is objectively the least shitty looking Warden helmet?

Fendrel faggots need not apply.

>>171807256
If you're far enough back that they're going to charge it more, then you can literally wait until you see it come at you and reaction dodge it. I bet you have trouble dodging Valk bashes, too.

>>171807306
Dude I'm a warden critic but if they fuckup the charge you can punish them just the same as any other fuck-up.

>>171807329
I really like Dullahan and Loran as a runner up.

>>171807234
>Dude just throw out a light to block to stop his vortex
>He guys, check out this webm of me canceling the bash on reaction to parry one of the fastest moves in the game
You're no helping yourself at all here. Warden is literally easy mode.

has this warden apologist never played actual fighting games before

>>171806942
>light him during the startup
>light him if he goes for a GB cancel
>dodge it and GB him, if you're an assassin, valk, kensei or raider then you can dash attack/not get gb'd during dash anyway

???

>>171807256
a fully charged shoulder is a free GB if dodged, it's extremely risky

>>171807306
>you can't punish it if he misses
why would you need to, you can press a light attack during the startup or just press a light attack if he whiffs like you're describing

the basic fact that you're trying to get one of the most fair, reactable, yet actually effective mixups in the game nerfed, really shows that the playerbase isn't destined to survive

>>171807329
Arcturus, Dain if you don't want a square-head.

Elner/Lederic are the ugly/hipster options.

>>171807329
Dain and Merope tickle my fancy.

>>171807402
How? Because if they fuck up the raw shoulder they can instantly block, so you can't hit them, and they can tech so you can't GB.
>>171807576
>>light him during the startup
That clearly doesn't work considering you can cancel the startup and parry one of the fastest attacks in the game>>171807234

>>171807490
>>171807576
Warden can literally counter his opponents attempt to counter.

>>171807329
merope or dain
fendrel would be the best if the vertical part of the visor went all the way down the goddamned faceplate

>>171807329
Merope, Elner, Fendrel

Loran looks the best but its the default helmet so ???