/fhg/ - For Honor General

Nth for it's been several weeks since I last played. Have they fixed matchmaking yet? Buffed Lawbringer? Nerfed other classes? I'm so out of practice.

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Time for today's edition of
>PK mains

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>>171729135

>>171729090
>tfw only time I was decent at the game was in beta

>>171728907
Previous thread: >>171680007

>>171729135
I once has a PK criticise me for "Light attack spamming" as warden. I threw out a light every time he closed distance and started his combo. The irony was great.

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Nobshi mains I need advice. I now duel players who optimally punish my parried light attacks, which I do one at a time randomly.

I've heard that canceling a light into hidden stance and attacking immediately to beat their parry attempt can add a layer to your offense, but I haven't asked a friend to test how effective this might be.
Can anyone vouch for how practical this tech is? Thanks in advance.

>>171730534
dont play nobushi but it will condition the opponent to not try to parry as much

>>171730534
that strat is true and effective for pretty much any class

>>171730676

You know only the Berserker and Nobushi can cancel light attacks yes? Though hers is better because she has more options out of hidden stance.

>>171730863
im talking about feinting and going into a light attack in general

Post Lawbringer music.

What sort of fics, lewd or not, would you be interested in? Keeping in mind the high-school-creative-writing-class tier writing.

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What's the best class if you're planing on a poor connection?

>>171731383
pk, just mash r1

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How long do you think its going to be til we get the first 2 DLC characters? End of season 1? Ive pretty much only spent 5k on nobushi idle effect and have mainly been saving for DLC chars assuming they are going to be 20k steel.

>>171731001
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXhuso4OTG4

>>171731548
Yeah start of season 2 is when they're meant to drop

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>>171729135
>That emblem.

are there any good AMVs for this game?

i like linkin park and evanescence

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>>171731807

>>171731347
There's a distinct lack of lewd anything for Valk.

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Is there a point to team colors? Do people even use them? Why do defenders get purple, blue, and green? I can see attackers getting red, yellow, and orange but why the fuck green for defenders? Who decided this shit?

I fucking hate the bots in this game so fucking much. They're always invincible gods when they're on the enemy team and complete shit on mine.
>Playing elimination against ai for an order
>They all read my input to block perfectly
>Parry light attacks regularly
>Tech every GB
>In the later rounds they instantly abandon a fight when it starts and run to gank my team

>>171732254
Can you name another cool color besides blue and purple?

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What do you guys do when you're in Duel and you're going up against a very clearly new player? I'm too autistic to talk to them, but I don't want to completely clobber them or sandbag them TOO hard either.

When the fuck is Wardens vortex getting a nerf?
>Get matched against a high rep Warden
>VORTEX VORTEX VORTEX VORTEX VORTEX
>I'm playing a heavy so there's literally nothing I can do to get away, can only roll once or I'm out of stamina
This shit is broken as fuck

>>171732736
which heavy are you playing? warlord/conq do pretty well against it, but it does give Shugoki a bit of trouble if his super armour is down.

>>171732572
Beat them with just the basics: only lights, heavies, blocks, and parries. Should be enough so that they won't feel overwhelmed and will show them where they need to improve. If I've been talking with the other player the whole time and they're not a cunt I'll let them win a round, otherwise I just try to end it quickly

>>171732572
Parry follow ups are too punishing but feel free to parry their mistakes
Remember that new bois can't gb tech so don't abuse it

>>171732901
Warlord. And nothing I seem to do fucking works
>Headbutts too slow to interrupt him
>Lights too slow to interrupt him
Seriously, what the fuck do you do?

>>171733613
>can't beat an A tier class with the best class in the entire game
I'll tell you what you do, you roll out then get him in the headbutt vortex, which is much better.

>>171733803
>Roll out
>He just starts the vortex again, because there's no actual counter to it
You're not explaining how to escape it, because there's literally no way to escape it. It costs almost no stamina and can be spammed over and over again because there's literally no downside to it.
There's a reason all "high level" Warden gameplay depends on their vortex

>>171733864
Your headbutt is faster.

>>171733936
It isn't. I've tried headbutting to escape his vortex and he always hits me first.

>>171733956
If he's barreling towards you yeah, it's too late. But you can dodge into headbutt on reaction faster than he can dodge into shoulder bash. There's a reason no warden has taken a tournament, it's because Warlord does everything Warden does but better.

>>171732736
God you "VORTEX" whiners are legitimately so fucking awful. You have a 2/3 chance of getting out unless you're completely predictable, just press a light attack.

>>171734024
Once I've already been hit by it that's it though. I have no real chance for escape unless I roll away.
>>171734043
>Just light attack
Not everyone plays PK

I've left 13 brawl games in a row within the last half hour because literally every single one had a PK in it and I refuse to play any game that contains one of those cancerous niggers.

Also, is champion status worth the steel?

>>171733803
>warden not being s tier

????

>>171734305
Warlord side lights are 500ms, you can easily land one, and asserting that only PK lights are fast enough to stop it really shows your ignorance about the matchup.

Wanna know what's a lot worse than Warden shoulder? Warlord headbutt, except it's basically unreactable, and random side dodges are just asking for a GB.

>>171734390
it goes like this

broken:
pk
warlord
conq

strong:
warden
valk shug

bad:
raider
berserker
orochi
nobushi

trash:
kensei
LB

>>171734325
i've noticed i'm getting a ton of shitty gear ever since i let my champion status wear off.

imo it's worth it if you're trying to rep 3 a character and gear them up w/o buying steel

>>171734305
Yes, there's no 100% chance unless you roll. But on the other hand, getting hit by it repeatedly without him mixing it up at all is a sign of your unfamiliarity more than anything else.

>>171734467
>raider not in trash below law

>>171734404
I've tried landing them everytime a Warden spams his vortex. You insisting they are fast enough to interrupt his vortex doesn't magically make them faster every time I try doing it and it doesn't work.
>Warlords headbutt
>You get one stab in
>Wardens vortex
>You get two light attacks, a heavy if they cancel into a GB and you don't tech
Gee that one stab that does less damage than a light sure is worse

>>171734676
raider's dashing guardbreak and stunning tap give him some options, that's why he's in bad instead of trash

>>171734629
When did I ever say they don't mix it up? They always mix it up to try to be as unpredictable as hell. It's not even a matter of skill, it's literally a guessing game because no one has a strict pattern they stick to, it's just random if they raw shoulder or charge.

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>Be MVP on your team in a Dominion match
>Be the only one with the sense to backcap when the enemy has all three points
>Lowest-scoring, no kills shitter says "noob team" in chat
>Be last one alive, get 4v1 ganked and bear hugged to death by a Shugoki
>"anon u suck"
>"FUCKING NOOB ANON"

I'll admit, I got salty and told them to check the leaderboard, but why does this game bring out the worst in people? And why does no one fucking know how to play Dominion?

>>171734325
Well, if you're leaving a lot of games, then a lot of your champ status time is going to go to waste.

Not to mention brawl isn't a good mode for leveling up anyways.

>>171734685
you're probably swapping your guard too late instead of changing it to side when you get hit, then buffering a light attack as soon as possible

>Gee that one stab that is completely unavoidable damage compared to a light combo that you have to completely fuck up to get hit by sure is worse
retard

>>171734795
I'm not trying to level up, I really don't give much of a shit about rep level. Currently at 3.

>>171734848
The same still applies, though. Leaving a lot will waste a good portion of your champ status.

Personally, I would rather keep my steel, but if you know you're going to be playing a lot, then it might not be a bad purchase.

>>171734810
>Dude that little damage is worse than two lights or a heavy, because he can do it repeatedly
>Pls ignore that the Warden can repeatedly spam his vortex because it makes my argument invalid
>Also the vortex is totally fair against every other class, especially ones like Shugoki who have slow lights and nothing to interrupt it

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>>171734770
>And why does no one fucking know how to play Dominion?
I don't know, but I'm sick of carrying my teams constantly. It's a random tossup whether they'll be just mediocre enough to let me steamroll the enemy team, or they amount to nothing and I have to 1v4 constantly and eke out a win or die if they actually use team tactics.

Very rarely am I actually teamed up with competent people and simply outplayed by the other team. It's a frustrating feeling after coming from fighting games where you are your only liability.

>>171731807
https://youtu.be/ADg44x08rog

Haven't seen one. This at least is music and gameplay, but not a AMV really, let me know if you find one with the usual suspect soundtrack.

>>171734957
yes, warlord headbutt is insanely strong, meanwhile warden's shoulder can be hit with lights on reaction every time

both are spammable

shugoki has hyperarmor, trying raw shoulder against shugoki is asking for a headbutt or GB

you're just proving you don't really know the game all that well

>>171735089
>Dude Shugoki has hyper armor, this makes him invincible to the vortex
>B-but no warden would ever ever GB him to get rid of that armor, they're all stupid and just dive right into that armor
You're proving you don't know shit about the game and love pretending the vortex isn't broken

>can't get any kills because the enemy team stays together literally the whole game

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>dev flat out said we never intended you to unlock everything in the game but to just play 1-3 heroes
Holy shit ubisoft please. Reddit has like 8 pitchfork threads up and the community manager trying to calm them.

>>171735331
yes, he can attack right through shoulder and it will beat the GB cancel, this is what hyperarmor is, are you retarded? Every single character has tools to defend against Warden, but here you are bitching about it because having to choose between dodge/attack/GB tech is too hard for you

>>171735473
Are you fucking retarded? A smart Warden will GB the Shugoki before hand, which gets rid of the hyper armor. Then he can vortex to his hearts content until the armor is back, and then all he has to do is GB again to get rid of it.

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I was wondering what would break first... your spirit, or your connection!

For a bonus laugh make sure to look at his name.

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Reminder that Peace/Lewdkeeper is for being captured, gangraped and mindbroken by Kangs.

>>171735589
>b-but if this thing happens first then it's harder!
theoryduel somewhere else, you being completely unable to understand basic mixups is why the game is stuck in a shitty defensive meta right now, thanks

>>171735717
>Completely ignores the point that Shugoki has no counter to the vortex because all it takes to get rid of the hyper armor is a single GB
And no, basic mix ups is not literally guessing what the Warden will do next. You can't react to it skillfully, you're only hope is to just guess, because any decent Warden will not have a pattern and just act as randomly as possible so you can't accurately predict what he does next.

>>171736041
>You can't react to it skillfully so it's cheap
this is why no one attacks in duels unless they're conq/warlord/pk, retard

defense is so easy and gives such heavy rewards that the only viable characters regularly use unblockables that force a dodge or other counter, this includes warden

you're bitching about one of the only mechanics in the game that aren't a cancerous "sit there and wait for something to parry" waiting game

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>>171734972
Yeah, I know the feeling. I'm not the best player, but I can usually hold my own in a 1v1 unless the other player is really good and, if put in a 2v2, I know how to use revenge for knockdowns and free damage. That's another thing: people use revenge as soon as they get it, rather than holding on and using it to counter being ganked/double teamed.

Anyway, my problem is no one seems to understand the whole 'control points' element of Dominion. I rarely see people fighting effectively in the minion lane (which is free points if you can zone attack a few times) and people don't seem to realize that there are lots of side routes to each point, meaning you can split the enemy team apart by backcapping rather than just joining a revenge orgy on one point and dying constantly.

I really like the idea of Dominion as a game mode, playing as these heroes during a siege with AI minions. It's certainly better designed than Mario Kart powerup Elimination. But the people playing it are just such retards.

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>>171735608

>>171736262
>Dude why complain about the vortex when there's also other stuff to complain about?
Okay so you are actually retarded

>It's ANOTHER elimination where the last enemy alive is an assassin who would rather spend two minutes running around them come and fight us episode
Just why? Is it about their k/d or some shit?

>>171736634
>i can't just reactively block and parry my way to victory against this move that forces me to act WTF!!!!
catch aids

>been doing research on Roman history, wanted to learn as much as possible from beginning to end
>learning about the Fall of the Western Roman Empire at the moment, and the beginning of the Middle Ages
>think of For Honor's new centurion
>become incredibly sad at the feeling of the fact that all civilizations, no matter how grand, all come to an end
>even my homeland that I love one day will just be a few piles of rubble and pages in a history book, my entire family line a faint whisper on the deafening gusts of time
>blackpilling.exe
>all of this started because someone mentioned that the centurion is a sort of fringe knight that the knights legions descended from, and it piqued my curiousity about Rome from that one statement
>due to that single fleeting thought I have been steeped in old roman history and italian culture for like a week straight now, just because somebody mentioned Centurion's reason for being a knight
i didnt even check if there was any proof to that claim at all whatsoever

do i have autism

>>171736698
>Dude a move that you can only guess what to do instead of react properly is totally fair
Is your favorite game rock paper scissors? I hear it's super skilled and takes real reaction time and critical thinking to win!

>>171736824
nah, dude. or maybe i'm autistic myself. where'd you look all this stuff up?

>>171736910
the irony is that right now, for honor dueling is like playing rock paper scissors, but whoever goes second has a 500ms window to change their hand

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If only there was a man who was really intelligent when it comes to fighting game balance.

If only a very meticulous fighting game developer with actual competive experience could give his aid to the FH devs, as he has with other fighting games.

But who!

>>171736824
No, you're smart.

>>171737218
>It's like rock paper scissors if the game was actually different than it is haha

>>171737252
man i didn't know mike z looked like a jewish cancer patient

>>171737252
>not keats

>>171736824
Nah anon, I've always meant to do more research on how knights emerged out of Roman institutions. Comparing how feudal structures and the idea of knighthood developed in what was the Western Roman Empire and the Byzantines might also be pretty cool. Hell, did the Byzantines even have interesting foot soldiers? Might be a neat character to add.

I hate how you can't have an interest in anything on the internet, you can only be autistic now.

do we know anything about the law/raider/zerk buffs this week?

>>171737636
yes

come back next week to find out

>>171737636
Of course not, it's ubisoft

>>171736824
DUDE

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>>171737540
Look up varangian guard

>>171736824
You're definintely not autistic, and you've gotten good comments on it, but I think it's funny that if you did the same thing for feudal Japan history, you'd definitely be called an autistic weeb.

>>171737540
Knights didn't emerge out of Roman institutions, they were the result of fuedalism, though the roman's did have an equestrian class who were made up of well to do landed men they didn't bear the same responsibilities as a knight.

>>171737782
I am aware of them, but that was the Emperor's viking mercenary company. I mean actual homegrown Byzantine soldiers that aren't the mounted cataphract.

>even plebbit is getting angry at ubisoft

>>171738141
FUCKING GOOD
FUCK JEWBISHIT

>>171738092
I haven't seen anything else specific though wikipedia mentioned there were a group of byzantine soldiers who were also called immortals, more than likely since the byzantines considered them selves roman their terminology for their military would probably be similar to that of late imperial rome, just in greek instead of latin. I'm no historian, I'm just speculating.

>>171736824
If you wanna know about centurions proper look more into the Roman Empire during its expansion. After they stopped expanding the hyper-organised legions of old faded away to a foederati border guarding force.

>>171738041
Right, but what I'm curious about is how cavalry as a military idea evolve from the Roman equites, goes through the fall, and then we get knights.

Feudalism might have been the climate they emerged from, but why does that shift in social and military status become the norm?

>>171738427
They stole the name from the classical Persian infantry.

Hey it's me again do we have an eta for the centurion yet? I need to spill barbar blood.

>>171738564
Cavalry was used through out history, the tactics on how they were used didn't change, what changed was the idea of awarding land to some one and expecting them selves to be loyal to you when you go to war but also able to defend them selves and rally men to prevent a raid when help couldn't arrive in time.

>>171738772
come back next week

>>171738893
Anon you can't keep leading me on like this, my heart can't take it.

>>171738772
End of season.

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I didn't know you could unequip completed orders

I've just been picking the 2-3 1500 xp ones since release

I could have gotten so much more

>>171738836
>the tactics on how they were used didn't change
Not true, that's actually one of the things I'm wondering about.

Roman cavalry was lightly armored and not the focal point of the army, mostly taking care of stragglers and going for flanks. When you think of the classical era you usually have an idea of a centurion in formation, not a dude on a horse unless you're talking about Parthinians.

Knights by comparison were heavy cavalry and played a much greater role. Does the improvement in blacksmithing just make it easier to armor a guy on a horse or does a lack of Roman discipline force tactics away from solid formation meatgrinders in favor of something more flexible?

Btw lemme say this is fun. But I also have work in the morning.

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What happened with the consoleshitter buying the game on PC challenging people?

>>171739182
I've read or heard people dispute this, but I think it was the invention of the stirrup introduced to europe through Attila the hun, good night dude I need sleep.

>>171739275
only the faction war is cross console

>>171739275
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xl0ZTnEJcnY&

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>>171739419
Console guy BOUGHT the game on PC to prove that console shitters aren't just inherently shit.
this >>171739461

that should add a loading bar under the names of players in the loading screen so i can call them out for using a slow ass HDD from 2002

>>171739461
>>171739731
>He didn't even take a single round
I was gonna defend him and say Nobushi was a bad match for Warlord, but he should have been able to take one fucking round and block consistently.
I'm on console and I know I could have done better

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>>171740389
http://i.imgur.com/otoA6mQ.png

>>171739461
>http://i.imgur.com/otoA6mQ.png
So does this cement that keyboard is a better input method? Guess I need to learn keyboard.

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>tfw songs perfectly sync up with what's unfolding in the match

https://my.mixtape.moe/gsxygw.webm

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>>171734467
>implying Raider isn't trash
>implying LAW is trash

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>>171741248
pretty good

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>>171741309
>full attack stat LAW
>still do shit damage
yeah he is trash tier when a fresh new level 0 orochi can out damage him
>you have low defance
pic related

Which level 3 bot is best for practising parrying? I already tried and destroyed Nobushi, Kensei and Valks.

I can parry their lights with 70% success rate, but I can't parry light of irl player at all. :(

>>171742124
It might just be lag fucking you over.

>>171742149
Yes, but everyone else can parry my lights in pvp.

Also how do I do the insta-guard switch parry. I swear I cannot have it done, or it happens on rare basis. I usually have to have guard in position first before I hit R2. Hell I've seen people with side guard then attack suddenly coming from top and no i'm not talking about zones. It's like they switch stance and attack at same time.

>>171742263
What the other anon means by lag fucking you over, is that lag makes it so that the enemy initiating a light attack is registered a tad bit late on your screen, meaning you have less time to actually parry it.

It happens to me all the time. The same attack by different players in different matches come out at different speeds.

In one match, a warden's top light might come out insanely fast, to where I have to predict if I wanna parry it, but a few matches later, a different warden's top light might come out relatively slow, meaning I can parry it on pure reaction.

>>171741951
>if only we could block or parry in this game!
Most roaches are so predictable in their attacks, it's not that big a deal. Even for other characters besides PK, it's just a matter of reaction.

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>>171742547
Even if we both have "Green" Connection?
Also I always have shadowplay on and look at recordings and I swear, everytime I'm looking at them it seems reactable, maybe because I know what is coming but it just annoys me alot that I can't do it. Even while having reaction time to do so.

>>171742764
>parry
>follow up with either a 100% to hit light OR a heavy overhead unblockable which will only get dodged/parried/they throw out a quick light which stop it

>block
>follow it up with shove which start your combo so either a light+heavy(overhead if you want that free light) OR heavy+heavy unblockable after which is slow as fuck and will either get you hit or parried again


GEEGEE

Why is Valk so fucking faaast

>>171743175

First light 15f, second light 18f (18 being the same as almost anybod else)
Nobushi has the same frames on her side light attacks. 15f first, 18f second.
PK for comparsion has 15f lights and her second light is faster with 12f.

>>171743175
Because Ubisoft doesn't know how to balance worth shit. I'm more pissed about how fucking annoying she is in group fights
>Fighting someone
>Valk runs over to gank me
>Just nonstop shield bashes me over and over while the other enemy is hitting me
>I can't dodge the bash and block at the same time
It's so fucking annoying and there's really nothing you can do to stop it

>>171743279

Yeah but other characters are way better at ganking. Can't even do sweep because you let your teammate fall too. Shugoki is the god king of being an annoying from the side.

>>171743327
>Shugoki is the god king of being an annoying from the side.
That's now how you write Lawbringer.

>>171743448
He can do No Superstes while Shugoki can hug you and actually damage you while healing himself while the others can attack you as well

>>171743327
You can at least have a chance to dodge Shugs hug if you target him when you're getting ganked. Valk has so much fucking distance with her shield bash she can back off, forcing you to switch your target back to the others before bashing you again

Also in my opinion Lawbringer is the absolute worst annoying asshole in ganking
>He hits you one time with the over the shoulder move and you're fucking trapped nonstop being flipped back and forth until you're dead
>It costs almost no stamina at all and is nearly impossible to escape
It's so fucking annoying. I've tried everything when he has me and nothing I do lets me escape

>>171743469
Yes, but if you dodge it with I-frames shugoki gets killed, because he has no hp left.

LB on other hand can flip you over as long as he likes.

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>>171743489
>>171743524

Is everyone sleeping or something, what time is this general usually active?

Or has everyone just left the game until season ends.

>>171743608
This shit fucking triggers me so much. It's absolute bullshit that once you're hit once you're as good as dead if he has a single teammate around

>>171743847
The general has slowed down hard because we're bleeding players. Ubisoft is running this game into the goddamn ground, and has absolutely no sense of urgency to fix major game breaking issues

>>171743856
You can dodge it though.

Not even kidding, I'm rarely able to actually lock someone down with it completely, as they're able to get up and dodge after the first one.

Americans are sleeping

Or doing last minute 800 word papers before class in 2 hours while lurking.

>>171743847
Both, really.

Ubisoft is retarded, but this is the worst time for activity, since everybody's sleeping anyways.

>>171743847
This is just the actual amount of players left here. Not really that many. Seeing how Ubi will still take weeks to get anything important done it will only get worse. I'll probably fuck off for a while too when DkS3 DLC comes out and Nier A gets cracked

>>171743954
I've tried dodging and it never lets me. Trust me, I'm fucking nonstop trying to dodge once I've been hooked, or even just roll away but it refuses to let me escape.

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I refuse to play Duels or Brawls until Valkyrie is fixed, holy fucking shit no character should be able to do that much damage.
>Spear goes through the environment.
>My flail doesn't.
lol
>Spear hits multiple people for 35 damage.
>My flail doesn't.
lol

>>171744313
>conqueror complaining about another class
im laffin

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I think I broke an Orochi

>>171743954 >>171744236
It's actually dependent on timing. If all LB does is Spam down plus square you can dodge it. If he delays it by slightly he'll get you.

>>171744073
I already own it senpai~ Also same I'm already building a new build for FUGS.

>>171744337
It blows my mind how people even get killed by Conquerors. I've done over 300 Brawls and I've never been killed by one.
In meme game types where they do 50,000 damage per hit sure but only a mongoloid complains about the meme game types.

>>171744380
being a rep 5 conq, if you dont know much about him against someone who does, you will get fucking mauled, its his mindgames with his shield bash that is really crazy stupid

>>171744313
>Conq got killed once and cries on the internet
Get nerfed loser. Get. Nerfed.

>>171744379
That must explain it then, because I've had several people insist you can escape when I never fucking can.
And I know this sounds like salt, but I think that move is broken as shit. It costs so little stamina you can flip someone literally ten times in a row with stamina cost reduction gear. You're literally flipping a fully grown person in armor over your goddamn shoulder, that should cost a shit ton of stamina

>>171744485
Depends on quality of Lawbringer, The Connection and if you're just tapping dodge button once instead of spamming it.

Also it maybe broken but it's the only thing LB has going for in Dominion honestly. Just keep 108Gear people on his back / ledge them.

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>>171744485
Shit quality but this is my favorite one so far.

And this is with no gear on.

It's somewhat broken, but without it, LB would literally be completely useless in 4v4s.

>>171744582
I've tried both hitting it once and spamming throughout the throws.
Lawbringer definitely needs a buff, but that move specifically at the very least needs a nerf to make it take way more stamina. Even Shugoki can only get you once with the hug before you get back on your feet and have a chance to dodge/escape

>>171744693
Like I said, he needs the buff that is apparently coming, but that move is beyond broken. Unless you have a teammate to save you you're dead

why tf does everyone leave after every match only to see half of them turn up again in a new lobby? I love this game but the downtime is incredible.

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>block a valk light attack
>midanimation of blocking her she throws another light out

this is NOT ok, does she even have ANY recovery time

>>171744693
You can even see when the LB gets careless at 15 second mark and just starts to spam Long-Arm instead of delaying it.

>>171744770
As you could see though, the nobushi clearly could have dodged it, but they chose to attack instead, multiple times, for whatever reason.

However, there was one time where my recovery ended sooner than normal, and it allowed me to start a no superstes earlier than I should have been able to. Anyone know how this is done? I've done it a few times without actually knowing how.

>>171745025
>my recovery ended sooner than normal
Practice it in level 0 bot. You just have to start another long arm right when it's ending I guess? You did it two times at 15sec

>>171745025
Yes, but there's many times where there is no chance for escape. Yes that Nobushi could have dodged and fucked up, but I've had plenty of times when I've been nonstop trying to dodge while hooked and nothing I do let's me move at all.

>>171745002
Her second light is slower you dumb frognigger.

>>171739461
>Poking after a whiffed kick
is there a point in this if your opponent is not shit?

>>171744974
Because sometimes you play with someone on the other team whose a massive faggot that you don't want to play against again
>PK spamming lights and using sharpen blades at the beginning of rounds in elimination
>Wardens who spam their vortex nonstop
>Any one who just immediately abandons the fight to grab a buff and gank
>People who won't revive me or other teammates when they have plenty of time, but choose to go gank instead
>That one faggot who is the last alive on his team and makes it his mission to spend the next two minutes just running around the map not even trying to fight
Any of this shit happens in elimination and I'm sure as shit not readying up to play with them again

ded gaem

>do skirmish order on that bridge map
>it's literally just 8 people in the middle duking it out

That was the most boring game I've ever had

>>171745137
One thing you can try, but I can't guarantee the success of, is to dodge left.

You've probably been trying that already, so if so, just ignore me, but there was a post a while back that talked about dodge directions when you're on the ground.

I don't remember the specifics, but it was something like dodging right is actually registered as dodging backwards, dodging backwards is registered normally, and dodging left is registered normally. I think.

Again, I don't know if it'll work 100%, and you've most likely been trying it already anyway.

>>171745256
>>The Roach.

Honestly, I can never 4v1, I suck too much. But I' still go down like a man. By slamming the pollaxe to my head then getting lighted from all direction.

What the fuck is the point of non vanguard orders

3 brawl matches as a non vanguard fuck off im just afking

>>171745310
I've been trying every which way, but I'll try left again next time it happens just for the hell of it.
Until then I'll wait for Lawbringer to get his buff before I start bitching to Ubisoft that he needs that nerf for the move, since no one will want to nerf an already shit character

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>>171745209
slower doesnt mean shit when she can still attack mid block you dumb albanian fuck

>>171745368
I've managed it before, but it really depends on how good at ganking the enemies are. If you're lucky they're retards just filling your revenge over and over. If you're not lucky you're against a pro gank squad of people spamming lights and GBs nonstop.

Or you could play Warlord and lead them to a ledge and ledge them one by one, which is hilarious when you pull it off
>WOW
>WOW
>WOW
>Almost always get hatemail over it like it's my fault four retards can't counter GB

>>171745417
>they don't let valk hit them once so they can parry slow as fuck 2nd attack for free damage

>fight a valk
>they get me into a combo for at least three times because I kept fucking up the dodge
>after that I kicked his ass

why is it valk players use the sweep combo as a crutch?

>>171745924

Why would I not use it if you keep fucking the dodge up, are you dumb?

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>tfw max debuff resistance ruins half of raiders punishes
gear was a mistake

>>171746903
>raiders punishes
>his lights

im pretty sure debuff resist wont stop lights my man

>>171745516
I wouldn't mind warlord cliffs so much if his range wasn't fucking absurd.
He's got almost as much range on his throws as LB/Raider charges but has the benefit of having a good skillset.

>>171747067
>lights
>versus 2 bars on exhaustion and a bar and a half if there is a wall nearby
ITS NOT THE SAME

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>doing the dominant skirmisher order (8 kill streak w/o dying)
>life is pain, but after about 4 matchs I finnaly manage
>pic related happens
>stare at my screen for 5 full seconds in a catatonic state

DONE.
FUCKING
DONE.
I'm not playing this game again until Ubisoft fixes their fucking connectivity issues. I play other online games and never run into this. When I buy a game and have a good internet connection (4mb ffs), I expect to be able to play that game. This is a fucking disgrace.
Stat imbalance, champion imbalance, I can be patient, but when you can't even play the damn game and get random dc, it's not just annoying, it's bullshit.

All this potential, and it's going to waste because Ubisoft can't be bothered to even acknowlege the problem. Fuck them

>>171747341
They are aware of the issue and they are looking into it
!!!!!

>>171735385
This actually doesn't strike me as the worst thing they've said. 3 is kinda low but assuming it goes up as the cast grows it isn't that absurd. If someone said "we only expect overwatch players to get around half the unlockables and mai around four characters of their choice in comp" noone would be freaking out.

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What do you do as Kensai when everyone blocks your opening light attacks?

Just in general how do you play when people do this?

>>171747680
>and mai
main

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>>171744379

>FUGS.
Good...

>>171747746
Feint and hoipe you can open them up somehow, which is entirely reliant on them making a mistake and if they counter you you're fucked.

>>171743954
>>171744236
I tested this. Two things stand out about Long Arm spam.

1) The second Long Arm lets you recover MUCH faster, to the point where the animation looks glitchy i.e. you teleport onto your feet from the ground.
2) Long Arm rotates some (but not all, because Ubisoft) of your inputs by 90 degrees, you want to dodge to the left (iirc) instead of backwards.

>>171747341
So much this.

>>171747341
come back next week for more info

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>dominion headhunter
>average 2 executions a game because what competent team lets you execute their dudes?
>1/2 the games end by crashing to lobby with no supestes

WHY IS THIS A CONTRACT?

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>>171744379
>>171747781
>FUG Sword

But why? Do you think the patch will save it?

When does blue gear start dropping? I'm rep 1 level 11 and i'm still in grays

It doesnt stop me from beating people but I want better looking stuff

>>171748387
rep 2

>>171748387
Rep 1. It's just the "rare" drop in your pool.

Once you hit Rep 3, greys stop dropping entirely and blues become the "common" drop.

Rep 2 is somewhere in between. Still no purples though.

>>171748143
He was kinda dumb to just roll into that desu

>>171748559
he probably expected the half charged version instead of the full, so that he could thrust punish it, aka trying not to be boring

or he could've just backed up and swung because theres no reason to ever do anything in das3 pvp

>>171748687
>theres no reason to ever do anything in das3 pvp
Is this why there's so much fanbase overlap between DaS and for honor?

>>171748143
>those delayed hit confirms

If there's one good thing to say about Ubishit's connectivity, it's that lag basically feels like it doesn't exist.

>Can't even do my orders because I get matched against nothing but 108 at this point
>'Hurr we didnt expect gear to have an impact'
Then what the fuck did they expect exactly?

>>171735636
......... There wouldn't happen to be more of this would there anon?

>>171749027
they're both games about medieval fighting

if you mean balance wise, these games are too slow to make offense actually good, unless blockstun/hitstun is significant + defense isn't all-powerful(which it is in both games)

>>171748687
>thrust punish
>on a weapon that has no attacks that deal thrust damage, making it impossible to capitalize on counterhits

???

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Who here /notcancer/

>>171749946
all UGS WR attacks that thrust the sword forward like that, i didn't literally mean thrust damage

>>171749961
>Shugoki

I'm sorry, you failed the test, that is supposed to be Kensei.

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why is everyone in this game so fucking bad?
jesus fucking christ, i go into elimination and NO ONE on my team can win a single fucking 1v1, every fucking round is: i kill my person, and then the other three just gang up on me because everyone else on my team is fucking useless.

like how the fuck are you so bad that you go like 0-4, 1-5 in this game? i dont fucking understand.

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>>171750290

>>171732260
Main problem with bots - they're doing some crazy shit guardbreaks, f.e. they somehow can guardbreak you immediately when they stand up after being knockdowned, and that guardbreak is untechable for some reason.

>>171750423
Some knockdown punishes are unsafe on hit (e.g. Shugoki charged heavy), players just usually don't do anything with this knowledge.

>>171750290

Gearscore and experience. You're getting matched with people who are new, remember that.

>>171749961
>Lawbringer aka "Pls accept me uncle 4chan"
pathetic/10

>>171749961

Nigga you're only 7 reps in. You're like a kid who thinks jumping off the lowest diving board is worth watching.

So how does LB deal with having more than one person attacking them?

>>171750827
Same as when they deal with only one person, they die

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>join LITERALLY ANY GAMETYPE
>half of the entire game is assassins

>>171750827
revenge, parry, shoves, zones, same as everyone else

>>171751039
2/3rds of the assassins are trash and easily beaten by anyone who can block and parry more than not at all

>>171750746
Sorry Mr. NEET, some of us work full-time so I have the luxury of buying steel packs whenever I want.

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>>171749961
>not cancer
>shugoki
>takes picture of his TV

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Are any of the non-greathelms in this image actually historical?

>>171751708
Loran is a barbuta helmet with a faceplate you can slide up, according to the Collector's Edition trophy things. I'm pretty sure nothing like that ever existed because a barbuta is a variety of nasal helmet.

Likewise, I've never seen a lobstertail helmet with a fully enclosed face like Haedus and Dain.

>>171751708
They almost certainly existed

>>171739461
"unleash your powers"
lmfao
the motivational comments are the best part

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Regarding the Balancing that developers are planning for Raider/LB/Berserker - I was wondering if it would be possible to include new class based movesets in future updates to further add new layers of tactics in gameplay.

I can only speak as a zerker main - I like the Idea of using soft feints through dodges- but certain moves of the Berzerker become predictable such as the Spin Chop. Other moves like the infinite combo are not usable at all against competent players because of the parry window through easy recognizable attack pattern.

What I suggest is to add in a move that allows to switch the attack pattern in mids of doing the combos (think of something like Hidden Stance of Nobushi) - that way you can adapt to the playstyle of your opponent. It would still require skills to perform, because of the high chance of failing the chain of your next combo.

Anyways, what other new movesets for other classes could you potentially see in future updates?

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>>171751708
Lederic looks like a MS Paint parody of a knight helmet

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>>171748143

>cuts the air in front of you
>dies

>>171751708

Fendrel is the best gear set. The helmet, chest, and paultrons all look dope as fuck.

Post the best combo of blade+handle+crossguard to make the most aesthetic warden sword.

>>171751993
Now say something nice about For Honor's netcode.

>>171737782
>tfw no skins
>you'll never be a buffed Raider who has Varangian armor

>>171752029
Magnus hilt (or that other low-rarity one with the dark wrapping and simple pommel, I forget the name)

Bellius guard

Blade is probably the most subjective one, a lot of people like Guylaine for the damascus steel look but I personally dislike double fullers and how wide-and-short the blade is; none of the other blades are visually shorter than the others like it is.
Gilgamesh is objectively the ugliest blade though.

>>171752038

The game actively removes you from most laggy situations instead of prolonged pain. Dark Souls lag slashes like that are so common its much like getting dropped from a for honor game.
Although a single laggy slash is nothing compared to stopping an entire lobby of people at once

>>171751708
any of these for other classes?
i would love to see raiders shit

>>171751906
one thing i would add to the zerk is a drop kick used like the shugoki's charge, it does no damage while moderate stamina damage while knocking them on their back. it'll let her open up on people who just defend

as for LAW add in a light combo chain for long arm of the law, light+light+long arm.

>>171734467
>kensei trash
Say it ain't so, I'm rep 3 as him and I regularly win fights. I know he has some major weaknesses but is he really that bad?

>>171749176
>it's that lag basically feels like it doesn't exist.

It usually doesn't look like it because they do everything in their power to hide it but it's definitely there. Probably part of why they show useless bars instead of ping

>>171751708
Does Dullahan count as a greathelm? It kinda looks like one of them sugarloaf things.

>>171743524
>LB on other hand can flip you over as long as he likes
lmao no
like nigga just dodge
how is this even real
maybe some characters, but certainly not every unless your opponent sucks

>>171752407

He is far from bad. He has huge access to his combos and his dodge slashes are able to block then damage. He is far from bad

>>171738012
I actually started to look up shit about feudal Japan after someone told me that samurai never actually used wooden armor.

It was interesting to say the least, lots of battles lost because of politics.

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>>171752374
Only one I have senpai

>>171752396

>Knock you over
>Jump attack you for 2 bars of health, if not more

Yes, i can see that being fair, sure

>>171752560
>has zero ways to open people up
>will lose against anybody turtling
>universally agreed to be meh tier at best
But your two hours of playtime is all that's important

>>171751491
>Sorry Mr. NEET, some of us work full-time so I have the luxury of buying steel packs whenever I want.
But not the luxury of gittin' gud.
so sad
many such cases

>>171751491

What does a full time job have to do with posting something unimpressive and buying steel packs?

Is this game fucked if even Reddit is turning on the devs?

>>171752658
I really hope they give him something to open up the turtle meta, he is a lot of fun and aesthetic as fuck

>>171739461
>all those free headbutts

>>171740389
>and say Nobushi was a bad match for Warlord

That's wrong though

>>171752658

A lot of characters will lose to turtles, welcome to the current game.
The amount of feints + range + dodges and mixable attacks make him good. Not my fault you die. A good kensei pushes my shit in, although theyre rare to find. Im not saying hes strong. But he is not bad. Law is bad. He isnt trash, but hes bad.
Theres quite a few characters that have no way to open people up, Kensei is not exempt

>>171752803
I agree, he's one of my mains but holy fuck Conks who know how to turtle make me want to kill myself.

>>171752658
The only way I can open up someone is to heavy while moving backwards to whiff it on purpose then step forward with another heavy

>>171752651
Zerker deals 4 bars on knockdown, not 2.

>>171752163

The halidda blade is one of the best looking blades imo. And I think Garian Guard with Engeram hilt is a good combo.

>>171752651
dont turtle then you stupid fuck

Am I an asshole if play Warden/Warlord but don't shoulder bash/turtle or headbutt spam respectively

>>171753215
Yes

>>171753026
Warlords are nigh impossible for me. Valks have been giving me a lot of trouble but I might just have to git gud

>>171753261
ok

>>171753295
Warlord doesn't seem that bad if you mostly play 4v4 because those warlords are almost universally trash players who just throw out random heavies

>>171753143

Dont agree with stupid ideas. Address it properly. Nerf defensive plays instead of making any defensive play useless. Forcing one meta onto another does not create balance, it creates another problem. But a way to confirm >>171753072 4 bars of fucking damage as a way to "open up" is astral level retarded.

>berserker kicks you over when youre versing someone else and instantly deletes you

Great idea. Truly well planned

>>171752989
no, nobushi can never attack vs warlord or shugi, both of them have good follow up from a heavy parry, while other classes not so much

>>171753454
get gud scrub, cant handle the kick dont play faggot

>>171753656
which is fantastic since nobushi are always riding high shitting on bads with their range then they go against a try hard warlord who parries their very soul

>>171753738
nobushi is shit tho, her only strength is relatively safe heavy attacks

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>>171753076
Not a huge fan of the Halidda blade due to the angle at which it tapers into the point, but I agree on the guard and hilt.

>>171747680
Still stupid in 4v4 you can't play characters because of stats. They should just remove them and make them vanity.

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>>171752634

I really wish the Nobushi cosmetics weren't all fucking retarded.

1/2 the masks make her look like she has downs.

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>>171753942
Is there a gallery of all the weapons for all the classes?

>>171754102

What do you get purples look awesome

>>171749961
>boasting about playing low tier like it makes you better at the game
oh you're cancer alright

>>171753942
I think Diadalos is grey

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>>171752634
hey i made that image

>>171752634

Aside from 2 and 9, they're all pretty tight

>>171752634

Doesn't the nobushi from the campaign have a fox mask?

More animal armor when? Wolf helm and pauldrons for warden? Lion armor for Lawbringer?

>>171754293
Google for honor fashion. Has every weap/armor in the game.

>>171754746

Are you joking? 9 looks creepy as fuck. I love how unsettled it makes me feel. 9/10 intimidation.

>>171753295
Against Valks you kinda just have to remember when she can do her sweep and not dodge before you can clearly see that she is going for it because they often do it and later just act like they want to do it but then guardbreak you instead when you try to dodge the sweep which means you are fucked, not techable

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>>171753942

Why do all the heroic guards have to be thick and ugly.

>you can get GB when GBing someone

thats gay

>>171753942
>Gadwin
Wouldn't that thing instantly break?

>>171755928
All the warden blades are built about three times the weight of a real longsword.

>>171755928
>no lion engraving on shoulders or face
>no lion ornament
Step it up fampai

>>171756256
For the last time for Honor is a fantasy game

So what's the best story mission for grinding to story level 30? I just like cheevos.

I hit 22 after beating it on Realistic the first time.

>>171732736
If you use Shugoki then you deserve it

>>171756480

Nigga the lion engravings are like fucking rep 17

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>>171757681
>lion ornament is rep 0
>still uses fish fins

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>all these knights who both engrave AND paint their metal, not one or the other

help me fhg

I started playing the LAW and I can't stop

I really really like Conq but she's still a little too reactionary for my taste, would Shugoki be a good alternative to try for having actual offensive options?

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>>171751708
>>171751796
They existed but certainly weren't common

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>>171758218
That looks more like a weird sallet than a true lobster tail helmet.

But maybe Haedus is meant to be some weird greathelm/sallet fusion. Again, can't say I've seen anything like it.

Dain just looks like some Dark Souls tier fantasy helmet.

>People getting mad that they cant get everything ingame
why?

Nothing is more satisfying than parrying with Wardens top light

Prove me wrong

>>171758468
i thought the point of a lobster helmet (at least the ones in game) was that the back would fold up for easier removal, was i wrong?

>>171758614
Parrying into landing a side heavy and decapitation execution is far better.

>>171758614
>I play law and I will never know this feel

feelsbadman

Can someone explain reputation to my retarded ass? I've had the game about two weeks and looking through unlockables there's Reputation 10 level 6 shit, but I thought you started gaining Reputation after level 20? I'm a bit lost here.

>>171758647
It also lets you look up without the back of the helm digging into your neck

>>171758614
You can't parry with the Warden's top light though. Unblockable overheads (i.e. Kensei or Lawbringer) go right through it.

It's an attack with Superior Block frames on startup (like Warlord lights) with a special property that makes it unblockable and boosts its damage from 15 to 40 (same as the top heavy)

Calling it a parry is still misleading since "parry" means a very specific thing in this game. A parry chunks enemy stamina and prevents unblockable weapon attacks. A parry also has a much longer stagger than a Superior Block, which is why fast characters like Orochi can parry your Crushing Counterstrike.

>>171758591
>paying 60CURRENCYHERE
>cant access everything cause its such a slogg

its korean mmo tier thats why

>>171758985
it's not that bad, most people only play 2-3 characters at most and it's not like you need all the ornaments bought as you can only equip one anyway

>>171758817
oh that makes sense

>>171758732
it's prestige
you get prestige 1 at level 21, prestige 2 at level 21 (after prestige 1) etc

>>171759150
i know but its still shitty

>>171759150
>tfw bought all the ornaments for my main just to have them, even though I hate most of them

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>>171758468
Sallets are the only helmet I could think of that (sometimes) had lobster tails and (sometimes) covered the whole face. That first picture doesn't cover the entire head but it's the only one a had on hand with both features. I think I saw a picture of a bellows-face sallet that covered the entire head and had a lobster tail though.

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What the shit is this? Anyone else just get a notice?

I was permanently suspended? When? I've been playing non-stop since launch.

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>>171758174
Welcome to the streets, rookie.

>>171759191
So how can you be level 6 with 10 reputation? Or am I reading something very wrong?

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>>171759257
>Wardens will never get a sallet despite having one in the intro video
>Lawbringers stole it

Fucking Lawcucks and their hipster character.

>>171758985

I bought the game for 40

>>171759595
Greathelms are better

>>171759257
Any idea why the Dullahan helmet looks like the top is a separate part?

>>171759595

Because everyone regressed due to 1000 years of war

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Why are Feat CD builds so fun?
I hope we get more traps on 3rd and 4th feats someday.

>>171759665
All the greathelms in FH are flat-topped, which is shit tier helmet design and fell out of favor really quickly for a reason.

who are the legion_ fags and why are they in almost every game i play??

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>>171759314
Odd. Not sure how they did the afk punishment. Ive been afking since like day 3 the game came out and never got any warning. I still afk with matchmaking off since they fixed afking with it on. The only reason i can think of that i never got caught is because i changed my username every 3 days or so to jokes.

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>>171758614
>baiting top light and crushing it

>>171759878

You should know the difference between ignorance and apathy.

>first match of the day, PVP brawl for orders
>playing law
>it's against a PK and Nobushi
>almost pull the plug
>still fucking won

>>171759802
Yeah but they look coole

>>171760084
bitch please

>>171749961
You are cancer

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>>171760107
>last duel last night
>me rep2 Law
>pull a Rep12 PK
>Lose 3-0, only get her within one hit range a single round.
"gg ez shitter"
"just kidding best law i've seen"
Thanks I guess?

>>171758614
>>171760070
Any idea what he says when he crush counters?

>>171760669
>routinely get wiped as Kensei
>inbox is just a wholke page of messages of how I'm the best kensei they've seen
>still get rolled PKs and Wardens

It just makes me feel bad for not living up to whatever they percieve

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>keep getting emails that say "permanent account suspension" from ubi in notifications every week
>open it and see that it says my suspension has expired
WHY THE FUCK DOES UBI KEEP GIVING ME THESE FALSE EMAILS. MY HEART CAN ONLY TAKE SO MUCH.

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>>171759694
Well just going off the picture It doesn't look like the bottom part is hinged or anything so it's not a visor. There are historical great helms that had separate pieces for the top of the head, the pembridge helm being the first one I can think of, so I guess just go with that. Of course the individual plates are much thicker in for honor's version and there's no visible rivets keeping them together but it's fantasy so whatever.

>>171760964
Same thing happens to with zerker.

>can parry raiderbot all day in training with law
>AD MORTEM INIMICUS
>can't fucking parry for shit against anything against real players

>anyone does a basic string
>get's parried on the second hit
>warden does his vortex
>literally can't be countered
epic

>>171761215
This is the for ubi game I bought since the first AC. I had no idea just how terrible and incompetent of devs they were until now. The longer I play this game worse it gets too.

What's the point of Outfits?

>>171759464
you'd be rep 10 with level 6

>>171762293
Same. First AAA game I've bought in about 5 years.

Time for another 5 year break.

>fighting against a shitter raider who ledgespams

wow

>>171762329
The colors/patterns/symbols in an outfit can only be used if you have that outfit. It's just like buying/unlocking a few customization options all out once

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*ATTENTION XBROS*
There is now an /fhg/ club on xbox
If you would like to join either look up:
For Honor General Official
OR
add metalkid267 and i will invite you to the club

>Kensei heavy finisher mixup
>the side light cancel and side heavy cancel have the same parry timing
"""""MIXUP"""""

>>171763082
you can also dash out of it, or feint it normally, that move in particular is by far his best mixup tool

>>171763237
You can confirm one of the weakest heavies from a GB then initiate a heavy that if parried, drains you of all your stamina. Its kind of shit. ANd yes I mean all options