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/ndg/ Nier/Drakengard General #14

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Route N: HACKI[N]G

>[THIS GENERAL HAS SPOILERS]

If you have any suggestions or links you think would be useful, then respond with it to the OP and help build up the archives.

>What is /ndg/?
A place to talk about Nier, Drakengard and Taros games

>Official Nier:Automata page
https://www.platinumgames.com/games/nier-automata/

>Important information
http://nier.wikia.com/wiki/NIER_Wiki

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>TEMP FULLSCREEN SOLUTION FOR NIER ON STEAM
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>http://pastebin.com/YKpYSJuX
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>What Happened before Nier: Automata began?
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2017/03/10/heres-what-happened-before-nier-automatas-story-began/

>The Weekly 2B Butt .Zip Download (Lewds and Non-Lewds):
https://twitter.com/2b_butt

>Unit Data & Fishing Encyclopedia [Untranslated]
http://wiki3.h1g.jp/nierautomata/index.php?%E5%80%8B%E4%BD%93%E3%83%87%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BF

>Drakengard/Nier Collection Archive
https://mega.nz/#F!1U9FABJA!mMSLFtaWnMsjC5kNrzsgHA

>NieR: Automata Steam Theme Download:
http://pastebin.com/4WwASa48


Previous Route:
>>171492379
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SFM model available on Steam.
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Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.
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2B9S CANON
O T P
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guys i am confused by route C, do i have to support 9S and A2 independently between every boss or something? i don't understand.
Are those 2 separate stories played simulatenously?
someone pls explain
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>>171533506
You're just following the two characters from the point of view of their pods.

The pods are the narrators of the entire game.
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>>171533352

Something hot about how fertilisation happens inside a woman while she's still 'there'
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>>171533457
Upload to SFMLabs pls
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Should I bother with Drakengard 2 or should I just jump right into 3?
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>>171533703
Don;t even spit in 2's direction. Though 2Bh 3 is only a bit of a step up..
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How do I get up here? There's a quest I can't reach.
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>When most PC players don't even try to think about the story for themselves but instead wants someone write the whole story in as concise and erronous as possible in BIG RED LETTERS
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>>171533809
If you back out to the room before there's a ledge you can jump too that doesn't appear on the map
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>>171533703
It has its moments, but you won't really miss out on anything if you skip to 3.
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>>171533884
Oh balls, I feel like a retard. Thanks my man.
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>FULLSCREEN SUPPORT UPDATE

https://github.com/Kaldaien/FAR/releases/download/far_001/SKIM64.exe

Auto-installer and auto-update version.

Can follow the progress here.

http://steamcommunity.com/app/524220/discussions/0/135512104777399045/?ctp=8
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Making a guide for improving PC version since enough information is available to shill:

>Performance boost and resolution fix for full screen
http://steamcommunity.com/app/524220/discussions/0/135512104777399045/

>Interesting information about graphics settings
Anti aliasing is MSAA, thus demanding.
Ambient occlusion includes a good post process AA.
If you use both you will get nasty draw distance issues so don't.

>Improving graphics further
https://reshade.me/
To get access to the game's depth buffer you must disable AA and AO.

>If you want to use Reshade and the performance/fullscreen patch together
Add this in the mod dxgi.ini. And Rename the Reshade dxgi.dll to ReShade64.dll
[Import.ReShade]
Architecture=x64
Filename=ReShade64.dll
Role=ThirdParty
When=Early

>Forcing additional AA
"In Nvidia Inspector enable "Enhance application setting" and set 4xMSAA and 4xSGSSAA along with 4xMSAA set in game.

I would also try enhancing with TrSSAA or 4xS+2xtrSSAA(2xMSAA set in game) in addition to using some downsampling.

There is also another method, if enhancing TrSSAA works.
Use 2xMSAA in game, enhance 2xTrSSAA, enable FXAA on the game profile and then use 1.5x1.5 |2.25x(or as close to as you can) DSR. Higher if possible." - Quoted from Guru3d.

>Want to go fast?
http://gtrainers.com/load/categories/trainers/nier_automata_trainer_14_1_0_fling/28-1-0-3262
Trainer options
Numpad 1 - Infinite Health
Numpad 2 - Infinite Hacking Health
Numpad 3 - Infinite Hacking Time
Numpad 4 - Pod Programs No Cooldown
Numpad 5 - Items Don't Decrease
Numpad 6 - Infinite Double Jumps
Numpad 7 - Minimum Plug-in Chip Size
Numpad 8 - Weapon Upgrade 0 Material Cost
Numpad 9 - Super Speed
Numpad 0 - One Hit Kill
Ctrl + Numpad 1 - Infinite Money
Ctrl + Numpad 2 - Infinite Experience
Ctrl + Numpad 3 - Infinite Items
F1/F2/F3/F4 - 2/4/8/16x Experience
Home - Disable All
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>>171533457
Welp, here comes all the badly made Steam Workshop porn...
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>>171534368
>trainers
Jesus, if someone uses this they shouldn't even be playing games.
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>>171533457
This is why we can't have nice things.
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>>171534480
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>>171534387
>not eagerly awaiting 2B playermodels in Source engine games
>L4D2 already has a mediocre quality one
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Why the fuck can't I talk to this resistance member stuck in the warehouse? It's the Sorting Trouble 3 quest. I'm looking right at this actual nigger but it says I can't talk.
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>>171534680
kill all machines in that vicinity

even the ones on the ground
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How long did it take you to stop crying after the choir kicked in during Ending E
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>>171534680

If there are any enemies nearby, including ones down on the streets next to the building, you can't talk to him
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>>171534480
To be fair some of that stuff (like infinite double jumps) can be fun to explore out of boundaries shit and what not.
Also it can be good for someone who just wants to get back to the level selection screen after deleting their save.
But yeah the game isn't that hard, I can't see why you would need this for regular gameplay when you can literally switch to easy mode and have the game play itself.
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>>171534805
I didn't cry, but I thought it was really sweet.
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How many butt worship doujins can I expect by the time Comiket roles around?
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Are the side quests in this game missable? Also performance fix when? I get 30fps on high on a 1060
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>>171534368
There's also this fix for cutscene stutter but I haven't tried it so I dunno.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=887370335
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>>171534973
None. Pixiv content will dry up by May. There aren't even any previews for doujins up right now which is the first indication of how wide the circle interest is.

The most you're going to get are a couple of doujins from niche circles, and 2B/A2 showing up in books that have an assortment of characters in them with 1 to 4 pages of drawings.
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>>171533457
Where is the 9S one? So he can finally have sex with 2B.
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>>171534368
>trainer
christ, already? I understand the aesthetic of all the other stuff, but why the trainer..? The game can already be trivialized by beating C route and unlocking the Debug mode and you can fucking buy achievements in it.

Well. I ain't all for the trainer, but if you make this into a pastebin file I'll throw it into the OP Template for use next thread.
Archiving is archiving..
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>>171535282
PCfags are casuals, what else did you expect?
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>>171533457
Is it possible to just grab the .obj file for this? I've never used Source Filmmaker and I'd rather not have to learn how to use this idiotic interface.
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>>171535282
>>171534368
>implying I'm willing to farm any more fucking coils
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>>171535112
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are there ANY commander lewds besides the 2B fisting one?
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>>171535282
http://pastebin.com/niFbTsDF

I would have linked a cheat table but they're in their infancy at the moment, they seem to be working on adding whatever item though.

>tfw no slow motion script
>tfw no free cam
>tfw no stop camera from denying upskirt shots
>tfw no bindable camera zoom in/out script
what is wrong with them????

>>171535393
Yeah but it's annoying as fuck. Just wait, apparently those are the shitty models and there are better ones coming.
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would you guys judge me if I bought all the trophies
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>>171534618
I am a poorfag, and even then I don't the see the appeal of seeing 2B in L4D2.
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>>171535634
I would judge you if you bought the level all weapons trophy
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>>171535634
I'm judging you just for you having asked that.
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>>171535802
>>171535885

can I at least buy the pod upgrade trophy
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>>171535575
>besides the 2B fisting one
Please elaborate
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>>171535581
>http://pastebin.com/niFbTsDF
Can I assume you'll be able to update this when need be? I can't recall if pastebin allows for that.

>All the camera options not there
If Taro is to be believed, they were working on a tight budget. I can see the craps and the developer "time saving" stuff they did all over the game, though that's not entirely a bad thing. It happens often. Platinum Might have just run out of time.
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>>171534368
>Infinite Hacking Health
Will it work for ending E?
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>>171535634
I'd judge you if you bought trophies you should've already unlocked by the time the shop was available.
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>>171534989
nothing is missable outside of one bad ending in the final sidequest
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>>171535953
>not wanting to know the joy of finding gadgets
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>>171536007
Commander fists her so hard she pees on her
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>>171536135
Go on.
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>>171536012
Yeah I'll update it, I have an account.
>If Taro is to be believed, they were working on a tight budget. I can see the craps and the developer "time saving" stuff they did all over the game, though that's not entirely a bad thing. It happens often. Platinum Might have just run out of time.
I have no idea what you're saying.

>>171536024
Dunno what that is but I assume the script was made for a reason.
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Just finished Route A, missed some side quests cause I didnt know about the point of no return. How do the side quests work in round 2?
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>>171535953
I'm currently judging you harder than i rode your mother.
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>>171534368
>>Interesting information about graphics settings
>Anti aliasing is MSAA, thus demanding.
>Ambient occlusion includes a good post process AA.
>If you use both you will get nasty draw distance issues so don't.
So which one i should use for better image quality? My guess is AO?
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>>171536135
Continue....
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>>171536267
Besides a few (3 I think?) that are unique to 2B, most are shared between 2B and 9S. You can just do them on the B playthrough.
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>>171536302
A better rig.
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>>171536198
While a giant floppy dildo is in her ass.

http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=61861872

>>171536267
Same as A, you can pick up all the ones you missed in addition to some new 9S ones.
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>>171536198
>>171536416
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What does "Discount" mean on the Standard issue YoRHa blade?
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>>171536468
>>171536561
Alright, that's what I hoped. I assume some are "intended" to be done like this? Like fighting the lvl 50 big fucker down in the canyon?
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>>171536239
Then I'm probably spouting bullshit. Ignore it, I must have misunderstood.

Regardless I updated my OP doc. Your stuff is in there. Thanks a lot for this stuff.
It's nice to be able to add sustenance and useful information.
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>>171536302
Whichever 1 U Want :)

In my opinion quality wise it's downsampling > nvidia tweaked SGSSAA > in-game MSAA > SMAA/FXAA > in-game post(it's real blurry and the AO sucks).

You can also combine all of these.

>>171536856
you too
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>>171536727
Pretty much.
Have fun.
>>171536719
In the weapons menu, you can pick the Details(I think?) option to see what all weapon effects do.
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>>171536714
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>Route c, Pascal's Village

rip in peace, sister bots :(
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Finished the entire game. Here is what I think of the characters.

Purest best tier:
Pascal
Pod 153
Pod 042

Goddess tier:
2B
6O

High tier:
A2
Devola and Popola
Emil

Mid tier:
21O
9S

Low tier:
Adam
Commander

Forgetable tier:
Eve
Red Dress twins
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>pascal is male
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>>171536987
How are babies made, anon?
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>>171537149
9S is by far the best character though
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>>171536937
>you get a discount at the resistance camp if you equip the YoRHa standard issue beforehand
What the fuck
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>>171537163
I swear, even when the game constantly referred to Pascal as a he or him, I still kept thinking that he was female.
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>>171535581
Damn. I'd really rather use Maya for this. Guess I'll just have to wait.
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>>171537251
Same thing for machine weapons an machine merchants.
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>>171537149
Pretty good list anon
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>>171537240

in terms of what?
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>>171537334
I kept thinking it was the shitty localisation until the minibots called him ojiichan or whatever it was
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>Beat the game a few weeks ago
>Running around as 9S during the Resource Recovery Unit Chapters finishing up quests and hunting chests
>Come across 2B's crashed flight unit along with her final message to 9S at Flooded City
Well damn, wasn't expecting to find something like that. Was wondering if that line of dialogue from the trailer was actually in the game. Any other stuff like this I might've missed?
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Automata feels more like it should be DOD4 than a Nier sequel. Route C/D are basically DOD1-lite. They even managed to ramp up the original Nier conclusion to levels of DOD1 suffering in Automata.
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>>171537163
>voiced by Aoi Yuuki
It was confusing my dick to say the least
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There's a little machine on top of the building near the desert with a quest marker, but I don't see any way to get on the building. Anyone know how?
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Hey guys, Pascal just told me to go to the forest kingdom. I'm what, like 25% through the game?
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>>171537476
Fuck I missed that. And I thought I was done being emotional over this game
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>>171537698
Yeah, that's pretty accurate.
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Time to blow your minds.

>Left touchpad brings up a quick menu that let's you change weapons, use items, change pods etc
>R1 + X in the air lets you do a super jump
>Holding X in the air lets you hold the pod to glide
>While holding X to glide with the pod, press Square to do a kick attack that raises you up higher and can damage enemies. You can do it twice per jump.
>As 9S, evading and pressing attack allows for heavy strings
>As 9S, switching weapons during a combo doesn't reset string count
>As 2B or A2 - wearing a weapon with Critical + in the Light or Heavy slot will give Critical + to the other. Recommended to wear a Critical + heavy slot and make use of Combat Bracers in the light slot for ridiculous damage.
>Pod 153. 1+5+3 = 9. 9S' Pod
>Pod 042. 42. A2. A2's Pod
>If you wear the Cypress Stick and Engine Blade and score a critical hit, the game sometimes crashes
>E type units are NOT a secret, there is one in the prologue mission with 2Bs team HOWEVER 9S acts like he has never heard of one during a sidequest involving an amnesiac E type.
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>>171537698
Like, 30% through route A.
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>>171537681
Yeah, you have to jump from rooftop to rooftop. Just look a few buildings down and around it.
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>>171537813
>>R1 + X in the air lets you do a super jump
I didn't actually know about this one until I beat the game. Also I noticed tapping square with 9S instead of mashing seems to change how he attacks
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>>171537917
Nothing looks tall enough though? Am I missing a technique or something?
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Holy fucking shit, the conclusion of the Confidential Intel sidequest legitimately made me uneasy. The sudden music shift sent fucking chills up my spine.

I-is this what I'm in for the rest of the game?
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>>171537976
Er...double jumping, or perhaps running up trees?
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>>171537813
But anon, I already knew this stuff!
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>>171537813
You can also change pods during the flight suit sections to change what you shoot, if you actually found the others pods anyway
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Jesus fucking christ
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>>171538014
Damn they really couldn't have found a more flattering picture of her?
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>>171537813
>>171538012

Yes, you can change the pod in flight suits. Laser is way better than gatling in flight combat by a mile.

Also During Route C, you stop respawning and instead have to load your save. This is cause the bunker is destroyed.
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>>171537813
Don't forget
>2B and 9S can taunt by mashing Light On/Off
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If in the end of Nier 1, humanity becomes extinct or so I've heard?
Who built the androids in Nier 2?
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>>171538014
Don't start this shit again anon, it's literally nothing.
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>>171538082
What's light on and off?
>>171538001
The reason I'm asking is because it seems to be much higher than any of the surrounding buildings, with no giant vegetation around it.
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>>171538086
Other androids
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Anons, i have a stupid question about Ending E [Spoiler]If i delete my save data do i get the throphy ''Transcendent Being''?[/Spoiler]
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>>171538086
Androids did. Or Replicants. Or they were left over from Project Gestalt. Lots of options, just none of them presented directly to us.
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I'm planning on playing NieR Replicant sometime but I'd like to know, would it be worth replaying the other games in Japanese as well?
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>>171538187
Why didn't 9S just tell that to the little sister?
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>>171538181
L3 on DS4. The button that turns on your pod's flashlight.
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>>171537993
Yoko Taros wild ride hasn't even begun yet
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So guys, where DO children come from?
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>>171538247

"How do mooses and piggies make babies?"
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>>171538181
Flickering the flashlight on your pod on and off at enemies works as a taunt
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>>171538247

Shit makes no sense for 9S to be nervous about, since the real answer isn't sex.
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>>171538181
Yeah, you have to do a long jump. Double jump, evade, then hit jump+shoot at the same time to fling yourself, then as you glide down, hit triangle to spin kick for a little height.
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Soundtrack rip when!? Some people have already ripped the game's audio and posted to YouTube.
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>>171534805
until return to main menu
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>>171538304
Mommy and Daddy pee pee poo poo on each other
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>playing 9S route
>get to the sand part with adam
>didn't pay attention as B2
>realize the machines are literally fucking each other trying to make babies
>and they succeed
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So I talked to the resistance leader after that boss in the desert.

Now what? There's no markers that weren't there before and as far as I can tell there's no new dialogue to find.
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>>171538304
>>171538324
A male puts his erect penis in the female's vagina and continuously thrusts in and out until he reaches climax and ejaculates sperm inside of her, which will fertilise her egg. The resulting cell then grows into a new living being over time, until it is ready to be born into the world by the female giving birth to it by pushing it out of her womb through her vagina.
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>>171538304
Carved out of wood, then a blue fairy shows up and turns them into a real boy/girl.
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>>171538501

I think you go back to the bunker.
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>>171534805
>just remember, we're here with you
>don't give up! 2B and 9S need you!
I was already tearing up and I was mess once the chorus kicked in
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Do Charge Up chips affect 9S attacks?
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>>171538554
I did but she just repeated the dialogue for the delivery quest.
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Should I kill this tank in the Amusement Park?
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>>171538761
Yes.
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Just beat the final boss of route A, and now i'm in crater where you fight him, limping around the same way you do after self-destructing.... and nothing is happening. what do i do?
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>>171538530

Is that the same as love?
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>>171538823
Walk to 9S.
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>>171538501
>Smartphone
>Not just ordering 042 to take videos
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>>171538761
you have to. if you're asking that question though, you really, really shouldn't be here, because it means you've barely started route A. there are a LOT of spoilers here. get the fuck out. come back after finishing ending E.

And enjoy the next boss after the tank. the music is incredible.
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>>171538849
Love does not require male/female sexual intercourse, nor does making children require love.
So no.

Man this is easy. Why was 9S all nervous and evasive?
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>>171538863
he's right next to me, walking/limping along side me. I can't interact with him
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>>171538761
Like 9S says, you'll regret it if you dont.
It will stay exactly where it is and do nothing, but you wont get the valuable item it drops.
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>>171538930
>you have to.
No, you can ignore it. 9S even comments on it after you do.
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>>171538995
>Man this is easy. Why was 9S all nervous and evasive?

Like I said, considering androids don't have sexual reproduction, he had no reason at all, it was just for comedic effect I guess.
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Well, I finished the game right after it's steam release. It's fucking godlike, I was crying like a bitch during ending E credits sequence, random people cheering me and telling me not to give up, and this help... After that I couldn't resist erasing my data to help someone else
Now I can finally play through the game at slower pace without trying to cram 30 hours of almost nonstop playing in 48h-weekend.
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>>171539026
Wait what?

You killed Eve, and 9S is still walking around with you?
That shouldn't be the case.
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>>171538823
>>171538863
>>171539026
nvm, i had to walk up to the boss. s'all good. he was blending into the rocks and i couldnt see him
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>People tell me the D3 OST is nothing special.
>That Five intro+battle.
YEAH IT AIN'T NIER BUT FUCK ME IF IT ISN'T RAD.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxq8ip_OvUg

I've been listening to so much Nier + Automata stuff that a good old fastpaced boss theme like that is so refreshing, in a way.
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>>171539092
Androids also don't have children. The only children he knows are animals.
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>>171539114
Also fuck that hidden Emil room, I only watched letsplays of first Nier, but Kaine theme in this room always gets me in tears
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anyone know the name of the music box song that plays after you beat that sidequest
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>doujins
time to get the new one I guess
didn't think there was any doujins, but this fucker is just gonna take care of that for me I guess!
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>>171539361
There's another Emil room
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>>171539227
Yeah, it's great. I like her second theme a little more, personally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJLo3hyGjV8
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>>171539227
Been doing nothing but listening to DoD/Nier/ar no OSTs for the past three weeks.

The game broke something in me,
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>>171539508
Haven't got there yet, I called my first session a night just before I fight Four, I think. Got to the top of Mt.Whatever and decided we gotta fly up to find Four.
I will say that the ordinary level themes aren't leaving any impact on me, but it's rare outside of Nier that they do.
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>>171539508
Wish there were a version without the vocals. I really hate the effect they used.
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>>171539694
Really? I kinda like the warped singing.

I guess versions without the vocals would be nice, though.
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>>171539508
I doubt you understand what I'm talking about but do you know the music used in the beginning of Clemp's first DoD3 video? Is it even from DoD3?
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>>171539913
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0snxGWI-otg

This?
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>>171539824
It's too monotone for my taste. And with the added effect the singing sounds the same for most of the song, so it gets boring pretty fast.
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>>171539694
But it's the YoRHa idol group singing it. I like it.
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>get transmission Goliath enemy has appeared
>run off to go fight it in the city
>apparently the game thought I was abandoning my mission and got ending H
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>>171540005
Wow yeah, that! Thank you, senpai!
Not only is Two best girl, but she also has the best theme?
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>the worst boss in the game
>The best sound track ever
Why did they do it
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>>171540182
http://dearstage.co.jp/artists/yorha/
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>>171538761
no, it is a law abiding tank that has done nothing wrong
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>it's a shmup level

Any tips for the fish boss with the EMPs all over it? There are no checkpoints from the post-mortar gun cutscene to the second set of EMPs that I usually die at. You can't heal while in the air and some of their shots still get through my spinning physical move
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>>171538304
Well, when a male and female human the atmosphere is a fluid, and when there are differences in pressure air flows from a high pressure area into a lower pressure area.
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>>171540278
It gives you shit if you back the long way through the park
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Is there any way to save any of the machines in Pascal's village on route C? :(
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>>171539227
>ah yes the music definitely feels like an adventure theme of old
>time for bo-
>techno rock kicks in
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just got ending e I've never cried to a game before but I did now. I don't even know what to feel. I didn't even care about the save file shenanigans, gave it up in a heartbeat. I just can't get over how a dumb joke bullet hell credits sequence got to me so hard. I think it was the "silly games" line that got me, then the bullet hell +weight of the world medley made it unbearable
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>>171537376
Found the original rip that was used for the mdl file. I'm surprised the UVs aren't super fucked. For now this'll work, I can make a better rig in the meantime using this.
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>>171540570
>You can't heal while in the air
Yes you can, also you can melee in the flight suit not only shoot
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>>171538304
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>>171540570
>You can't heal while in the air and some of their shots still get through my spinning physical move
1 you can use heals d-pad down and use 'em
2 deadly healthy and offensive healthy still work too
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>>171540570
>You can't heal while in the air.
Except you can.
Literally just smash quick melee while sitting in the bottom of the screen and shooting at things.
When you get to the EMP bit, just rub your dick against it while shooting+melee and you'll steamroll it so easy it isn't even funny.
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>>171540637
NEETbot survives unless you whack his house.
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>>171540182
I have to admit, I'm a tad disappointed that there weren't any tracks like this in Automata. At least there's End of the Unknown.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVOrxrm_9Fk
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>>171540726
>>171540751
>>171540795
Holy shit, I had no idea. Thanks
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>>171540637
I only managed to save the guy right at the entrance, not even sure if the rest are already dead or I wasn't fast enough
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>>171540637
You can save Pascal :^)
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>>171540352
Sweet pure A4. Why did you blow yourself up? You could've came up with a plan with A2, so you can be together.
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>>171533352
Damn
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>>171533352
Why did I forget about you guys? I was waiting for this Gen to come back.
Who's guessing a 1-month lifespan this time?
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Finally got ending C, now how the fuck I get D and E?

Also, holy shit man, A2 did literally everything right, fuck you Taro why she needs to suffer so much when all what she wanted was live with the people she loved the most.

2B was a sacrifice too but sadly her message didn't went through 9S's batshit emo condition. 9S sometimes was so fucking annoying.

For now the game for me is a 10/10, an amazing game.
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Okay so how do I switch my route to 9S' after completing 2B's
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>>171541321
I look forward to our dying moments.
Comfy slow threads with only the more dedicated fans are the best.
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>>171541459
Just load up your save.
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>>171541321
why is it not called dodg

dodgy rolls off the tongue better than nedeg
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>Route C
>Not the voxel tower, but those goddamn floating machine pillars

Pretty ominous.
Especially considering what hasn't been spoiled for me while knowingly hanging out in these threads.
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>>171539364
Please I need 2B butt worship doujins in my life
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>>171541427
Did someone hack A2's foot?
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>>171541321
So as the filthy secondary I am I played DoD and It wasn't that bad, I really enjoyed it. The only tedious part was getting all the weapons but ending E really made up for it, that was something else, and I fucking loved every moment of it during my 20+ retries in that boss
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>>171541427
Replay the last boss as 9S. But I would like to recommend you to do it later.
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>>171540343
https://youtu.be/YMKskuvJTcs
Simone had the best boss fight music though
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>>171541567
maybe since we're celebrating the newest Nier title. I'm more used to calling it CaviaGen or something.

>>171541470
As long as we don't devolve into Cavia High again, we'll be fine.

>>171541664
>getting the weapons
How did anyone get all those things without a guide? I recall one where you had to stay still for at least a quarter of the level's time (if not more).
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>>171532565
It's really impressive that they managed to bring the PS3 to its knees with PS2 graphics so late into the console's life, when optimization should have been at its best.
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>>171541840
>How did anyone get all those things without a guide?
Well I obviously used a guide but while getting them I tried to think how someone would have done it whiteout a guide and I believe the only way is playing it over and over again killing every single enemy in the map and getting creative on how to clear the map
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>>171540819
Is this proof that NEET life is best life?

Jokes and memes aside, god that was fucking brutal.
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I'm at the part where the Goliaths open the cavern underground. I'm still using the base pod. How do I upgrade it and get better abilities?
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>>171542328
As in how to get he parts? If you are looking where to upgrade it you really need to speak to NPC
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>all black outfit
>hacks all the mainframes and databases
>pseudo-sunglasses
>dorky shorts
>that animation when he does a running attack
Why is 9S so RADICAL?
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Was the black box edition worth it? Whoever bought it.
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>>171542328
The upgrades are garbage since they add impractical gimmick attacks(mash the button to do slightly more damage per shot!), and a pain in the ass to farm.

I basically went the whole game without upgrading them and it never bit me in the ass.
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What's everyones favorite track?
Mines is probably Vague Hope followed closely by comfy resistance camp music
https://youtu.be/0bJznex0eYQ
https://youtu.be/OUpGltfOU10
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>>171542513
Become as Gods JP
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>>171542503
>The upgrades are garbage since they add impractical gimmick attacks
Bu-but I can stunlock 21O using lv3 pod 1 mortar!!!
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>>171542503
>>171542418
No, like I have exactly the same program. Still using gatling with laser base. How do I upgrade for more damage?
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How many hours is the first playthrough?

Just beat "broken machine"
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Should I give the classified chips to the resistance guy?
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>>171542706
More pod pograms? You buy them, get them from quests or find them in the world, you don't upgrade those. Only the the gatlin, laser, and missile pod can be upgraded
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>>171542769
I think my route A was about 20 hours, but it could have been either shorter or longer. It's all about how much side questing you do. My route B took significantly longer than it needed to for the same reason.
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>>171542892
Okay, how long until I get more? I feel like I should have gotten something new by now.
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>>171542806
Yes. It makes it sound like there could be an alternate option but there isn't, he's the only way to progress it.
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>>171542806
Yes.

Don't worry, YoRHa will reclaim them later.
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>>171542917
Kinda hoped for a big main game. Like 100+ hours. Full FF7 style. But its genuinely a new game so there's that I guess
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>>171542769
16+-2 hours, I wasted about one-two hours by trying to do all available sidequests before fast-travel repair.
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>>171542957
You can buy them from the camp vendor right now. The one by the cots.
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>>171542957
Can you go the Resistance Camp? You should be able to buy like 10 from there, speak to NPC, this is a RPG
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any TIPS what to config on a low spec pc PLZ
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>>171541321
My hope is to keep it alive long enough to reach Route Z, in which case, I will pass on my duty to whomever wants to take it. We will wither Get to Z or die horribly. Good things can't last forever.

Truth be told I'm starting to lose sleep over trying to keep this gen from not potentially dying, and while I really enjoy making these I don't like checking the post count every time I wake up.

>>171541567
>why isn't it called /dodg/
I dunno. I'm guessing a newfriend made the thread and then after the second thread no one made a new one so I just kinda picked up the mantle and ran with it. I knew /dodg/ was a thing but didn't feel like fucking with the gen name.
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>>171543109
how make it a bit to run faster i already spent 60 bucks on it and it barley moves
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>>171543143
Gosh anon, you sound tired. Why don't you just hand everything over to me? Become as gods.
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EXTREMELY RETARDED QUESTIONS INCOMING

is it worth it to replay the game after achieving ending E and making obvious choice after it?
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>>171543035
I don't remember FF7 taking me 100+ hours....but it has been a long time. I played it all the way through a few times but it was like 20 years ago.
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>>171542769
Around 10 hours for me. I didn't do many subquest because have things to do IRL. But it should be around there I think.
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Did anybody feel sorry for Eve after ending B? He just wanted to play with his nii-chan.
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>>171543256
Depended how much you fucked around man. Grinding the sub etc, eh
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How do you guys feel about Taro's new mobage?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UI04ZtgY0X0
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>ability to create androids who are capable of emotion and free will
>too stupid to figure out how to leave earth
the fug? does this have to do with Nier? I played Nier and I remember it having a lot of fantasy elements and that's the only reason I could see this being plausible
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heh, chip management triggered some kind of autism in me, would be fun to try and generate best level chips with low cost (having two same level chips with 12 and 23 cost made me kek a little)
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>>171542706
You know when you go to the merchant in the resistance camp and there's an option to upgrade your pod? That's the worthless thing I'm talking about.

You unlock programs by doing sidequests and story missions.

One shitty pod appears as a ??? event marker in the desert. The other shitty pod can be fished out of the coastal city that you probably haven't reached yet. They are weaker than the gatling pod, since they sacrifice damage and speed for gimmick shit like lock-on and penetration.
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>>171533352
i just beat Route B and I don't have Route C unlocked for some reason?
My title screen changed and it said I had beaten Route B, I even saw the after credits scene, but my save file doesnt say I beat route B and when I load it I just get put right before the fight with Eve. Am I doing something wrong or did my game just shit the bed?
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>>171543319
Yeah and emerald and ruby...hell I'd not be at all surprised if I spent 100 hours doing all that. I only did all that shit once though. That didn't need to be repeated.
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pls help on confing the game on steam to run better on a old shity pc
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>>171543538
Did you talk to 9S in the credits?
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>>171543441
it surprises me how advanced mobile games have gotten (at least in asian countries)
it makes me wish this was just a regular game for the psp or something
so yeah I'll never play it probably
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>>171543441
Nice, it's pretty neat that we get to see what Nier: Automata could've been
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>>171543538
You didn't get through the credits and then get a prompt to save the game? I just did this today too. If you somehow fucked it up, it isn't the end of the world if you still have your save before the Eve fight...just do it again.
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>mfw just got ending G

please dont make me do that stupid brother robot shit all over
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>>171539227
>people don't like D3's
R A D
E
M
I
X
E
S
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKoxPZRNPsw
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>>171543625
Still a weird memory for me. Spent all the time hooking up and lvling up final attack or whatever and Phoenix. Then Fight Emerald and he fucking doesn't even do the 9999 to all attack. Was annoying because before I had done that he used it every time
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>>171543628
I think you'll have more success with your question on the steam forums.
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>>171543710
i hope you like buckets filled with oil and tripping over FUCKING PIPES
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>>171543710
Yes you do, and you deserve it since the flight unit was literally in front of you
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>>171543441
>Locked away behind death and rebirth stories
>I wonder if we could rewrite them
Wouldn't be surprised if Taro hints these girls as the watchers
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are there really 26 different endings?
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>>171543836
Kek you act as if he's a retard but you clearly did the same or you wouldn't know what triggered that ending :^)
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>>171539227
this is a nice song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzEfkUNqpwk
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>>171543441
>that cinderella
>kaguya
MUH
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>>171543690
man thats annoying. ive gotta do the annoying big worm fight just before eve again. idk how i fucked it up but i guess i just have to try again
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>>171543912
Yes.
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>>171543441
>Those characters
Oh my
Can't wait soon enough
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>>171543974
Yeah that's weird, man. Did you skip the ending because you were in a hurry or what? If so...you can't do that next time.
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>>171543221
I've thought of doing that.
I'll just post the updated OP before I go to bed, and if I don't come back before then, someone else can do it.

Odds are I'll be up before this one maxes out, but who knows. I'll let you know before I sleep.
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>>171544117
i skipped the credits, but it put me in the bunker with them still scrolling past and i got to talk to 9s and whatever. then i saw the to be continued thing, got asked to save my game, overwrote my old save file and got booted back to the main menu with a changed title screen.
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Sorry for /blogging/ but I think the game deserves it.

Finished the game with Endings A-B-C-D-E and a couple of joke endings, and all what I have to say is that Nier Automata is one of those master pieces that you find once after long time.

Loved all the characters and how the game focused the story around topics like the future, family, love, relationships and overcome obstacles that exist ahead yo reach what you really want.

2B is a great girl, someone who deserves better and be happy, same as 9S who ended with a twisted mind after all the shit that happened to him, maybe he will recover his mind after being reconstructed by the based pods and considering he has 2B at his side again.

A2 ... what a poor girl, knowing the truth for a long time, watching how everyone she loved was killed and ended alone in a world that only hates her. Her sacrifice was amazing, she truly is the main heroine of this game. Maybe some day she will be happy again.

For some reason one of the moments that almost made me drop a tear was when Pascal village was attacked during A2's playthrough and when the kids killed themselves at the factory along with Pascal's request, that hit me really hard.

Same thing happened with A2's last words at ending C, 2B's crying at endings A and B.

Despite knowing the PC port have some issues that will be fixed (I guess) the game is a 11/10, glad that I spend my money and time on this game.

Some day I will play it again, that's for sure.
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>>171543441
so how do you guys think this will tie into the lore? could be cool if the characters from here are based on weapon stories
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>>171541748
I'm still in route b, started the game Saturday night.
anyway, so after I finish route c, can I just replay the last mission if I want? or do I have to play route c all over again and pick 9S at the end to get ending D?
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>>171543481
leave earth to where?
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>>171544369
No need to do all over again.
Just use chapter select for the last boss.
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>>171544257
I really don't see how it may tie to any of the other games he worked on. He might reference them, but I don't know if this may become canon to the Drakengard/Nier universe. Other than maybe somehow making Drakengard a book/story in the game itself.

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>>171544230
Nigga I ain't reading all that.
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>>171544498
cool, thanks.
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>>171543441
Question is
Would Squix release it in english?
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>>171543441
>those magic circles around her arm
wew

I wonder where this fits in chronologically.
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>>171543912
5 endings with credits, 2 of which aren't the end of the story, another 2 which are the end of the story and the other 1 being the short epilogue

the rest are all non-standard game overs for doing stupid stuff
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>>171544608
They've released all their previous mobile games to the west, why wouldn't they do it with this one?
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>>171540498
All the balloons and confetti?

Litterbug.
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>>171544662
because it's not final fantasy
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>>171538304
The sky.
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I'm trying to do the YorHa betrayer mission, but I can't find them anywhere in the marked areas. Anyone know where they are?
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>>171544910
They're high up on the skyscraper. The place where you first touch down.
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It was a really good time, I will not forget this game.
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AHH

9S

OR SOME SAY NINES
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>>171544962
I looked there and did not see them. I will check again though.
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Post yfw webm and music related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlYAIALi_xU
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Why did she have to suffer so much?

Why is A2 the one that always have to watch everyone around her die?

Why she can't be happy?
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>>171545073
>the world my friend tried to save
>he doesn't know
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Blue bow >>>>>>>>>>> shit >>>>>>>>>> pink bow
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FUUUUCKKKKKK MAN THE FEELS.

Someone, I need a hug.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdyBCqtCI3Y
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DADDY NIER DID NOTHING WRONG
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>>171544468
moon? mars? somewhere else
the point is they had the technology
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>>171545165
I think it's more tragic that he still believes that.
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Is there a point where I can't go back and do quests as 2B? I don't want to do a lot of her quests as 9S, I want to do as many as 2B so I can focus on the 9S missions for him.
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>>171543951
Not him but some people just look up how to get the endings so they can get them all
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I DID IT! I DELETED MY SAVE FILE, THERE IT GOES 40+ HOURS TO SAVE MORE LIFES.
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>>171545242
but Nier did try to save the world?
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>>171545334
You did good, anon. We're all proud of you.
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>>171545352
Yonah is not the world

sure it might be to him but not to everyone else
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>>171545058
I had mine spawn at the factory marker behind the highway concrete.
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>>171545409
>>171545352
Are we ever given any info as to how knowledgeable Emil was to the whole Gestalt Project thing?

He could've gone all the way up to Automata thinking Nier defeating the Shadowlord was stopping the Shade threats or something.
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>>171545225
neither the moon nor mars are habitable

the plan was to get rid of WCS and everything would go back to normal, no one expected everything would go wrong

>>171545537
considering he was there when Dev and Pop threw the documents at their faces, he should be
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>>171534368
Can we get a trainer that will change chip size AND not be infected with russian malware?
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>>171545193
>just remember, we're here for you!
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>>171533703
Just read The Dark Id's LP instead.
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when emil gives you the key to the basement
>what were you expecting
>your reaction when the doors opened and you saw what was inside
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>>171545742
"Hey! That's from the title screen!"

More or less.
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This game is great but it looks like a ps3 game desu
They really stripped it down because of consoles and it shows.
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>>171545628
>considering he was there when Dev and Pop threw the documents at their faces, he should be
That's assuming he got the chance to read them, or that he could read at all
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>>171545813
I always thought Nier just picked them up and stuffed them into his bag

>>171545742
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Can my toaster handle this game? Only thing preventing me from buying it is that I don't want to buy a game I cannot play.
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>>171545798
What are you talking about, the title screen is just 2B's sword against a black background.
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>>171545886
You can play on low yes
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>>171545962
>He didn't reached Ending C

Fuck off pleb.
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>>171545628
Hamg on, can Emil even read?
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>>171545962
Mine was and still is that room on PS4. Endings A-E with some joke endings. I have the flower quest done too. /shrug

I got the white sword on black background after deleting my save. Loaded my back up to work towards 100 weapons etc.
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>>171546139
he has a library m8
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I'm on Route C right now, where can i upgare weapons once Pascal's Village Is destroyed?
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>>171544536
I'll post more art I guess.
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>>171546228
>Not Masamune in the forest castle

Is he still there at that point?
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I HAVE MADE GREAT DISCOVERIES! You can pet Pod in the PC version; just rotate the mouse in a quick, small circle 3-4 times.
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>>171533457
I can't wait for the BRAP porn
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>>171546291
Masamune is eternal
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>>171546291
totally forgot about him. Gotta check
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What's with Pascal? How come he's like the only robot that doesn't look like Emil (aside from the Engels, but what's up with them too), and how come his design is unique to him?
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so.. I'm planning to buy the US version but I heard it has no fucking Jap voice audio
>>>weebs
whatever but what the fuck I supposed to do now, is the hokong version still legit? and how can I get it?
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>>171546392
So is the block in front of his door, unfortunately
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>>171537149
>6O above 21O
>Adam that low
>Pascal that high
>Pod 153 that high
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>>171546235
But it's just generic moeshit.
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>>171546430
his consciousness is on a higher level, thus making him aware more about his appearance than you normal hivemind bot
still doesn't change his moe voice for some reason
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>>171546293
What about if I'm using a controller?
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Okay. Where is that Shin Godzilla bot? I think I have the same thing that other people had, where the D&P quest game me the unit data somehow.

I want to find one and see how it handles when remote controlled.
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>>171545962
>>171546141

This is my current one.
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>>171546439
All versions have dual audio.
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>>171546439
EU/NA has dual audio you fucking retarded weeb

Besides, if you don't actually speak moon there's unsubbed moments spoken in pure Japanese that you won't understand otherwise

The ENG dub is good, if you crawled out of your cave every once in a while you'd realize there are good games with english dubs
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>>171546291
>>171546392
>>171546417
yup still there

Anybody knows where i can get Stretched Coil?
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>>171546602
I think it's unique to that quest
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>>171546557
It's Taro's moeshit though.
"Very cute! I believe she’ll sell well!!"
-Taro
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>>171546620
fuck you I just want to hear jap voice, english version sounded force as fuck
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>>171545742
Fucking kill me. I knew it would be emotional, but I was choking back tears when Kaine Salvation started playing

>>171545962
You only get that after sacrificing your save
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>>171546705
Motherfucker.

At least the game is polite enough to give you the unit data anyway. Didn't Paper Mario do that too? Give you the enemy data of foes that you weren't going to see again?
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>>171546620
Fuck off, you're no better than the fags who shit on every dub
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>>171546620
>The ENG dub isn't bad.
Which is really all that matters.
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>>171546849
When the dub is not only better but also somewhat necessary I will fucking use that shit. There are some good Japanese subs that are packaged with the OG games but a lot are fucking shit so I don't use them as much. Someday weebs will realize that moon is a fucking tone deaf language.
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>do a ton of side quests
>then unlock transporters everywhere
I just wasted a bunch of time, didn't I?
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>>171546620
>>171546923
>liking Runkachunk's melodramatic performance
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Heading to bed. In the case I don't come back in time to make the new OP, someone use this link and follow the formula for the next thread please.

I've already updated the OP so the only thing to do is to give it an image and a dumb name for route O.

Here's the updated OP.
http://pastebin.com/fGEiryY3

>>171543221
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>>171547014
literally who
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>>171546545
6O is really cute though.
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Do NOT insult Jean Paul
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>>171547172
Not as cute as 210!
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>>171547014
Who even?
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>>171547184
Where the fuck do I get that spear?
Also, when do I get cool looking weapons besides the starting ones? Everything so far has been meh.
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>>171547014
She apparently went to my university.
Small world.


It's not a deal breaker for me. She's obviously an "anime voice" VA, but her 2B wasn't bad enough for me to notice.

And don't fixate on her. It's 9S' game anyway.
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>>171547012
You really did.

>Having to run back to the desert multiple times
>Having to go through the sewers to get to the amusement park every time
>Having to jump up the highway to get to the factory every time

I made the same mistake too.
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>>171547259
>Brother Nier has a sweet ass sword/lance
>It's not in the game
Why
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Hey guys I just killed the Goliath tank in the amusement park but I 'm not getting the machine core, what gives.?
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>>171546997
Use whatever language you want man. My point is shitting on people for their preference is pointless and will only lead to shitflinging back and forth.
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>>171547012
>using the vending machines at all

it's like you don't want to appreciate the world Taro and Platinum meticulously crafted
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>be a rabid dandere fetishist
>Get hyper as fuck for Toobie knowing she's gonna be the quiet girl years before the release
>Her every dialogues is like
>2B what do you think?
>I dont care, I dont even think
Meh, the butt is still good though.
Anyone else disappointed?
Does she get better in other routes?
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>>171547398
this desu
literally why does it matter so much that arguing has to be involved?
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>>171547418
I think I've walked through it enough as is. I spent all this time doing every single mission I could.
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>>171547259
The white one is in the sewers before the Amusement park. There's a second ladder further in.
The black one is from a quest where you hunt down a few traitors in the city.
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>>171547395
That happened to me too, anon. I dunno.
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>>171547421
>i don't care I don't even think
>
>he doesn't know
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>>171547421
>liking rei
>complaining about 2b
this much shit taste, rei has like fuck all moments and always acts like a weirdo
2b is much better
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>>171547418
I tried not to fast travel at all and it took me almost 40 hours to be route A. It made the switch to 9S combat sting less, but it's still a fuck ton of time for only the first part of the game
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>>171547398
I only shit on people's preferences when they are irrational, poorly justified if an attempt to justify it past "It's my preference" is made, or biased in a bad and impossible to understand way
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>>171547395
Was it on the C route and presumably a zombie tank?

Happened to me.
>Bomb the shit out of it
>It literally disappears, but I get the exp for killing it
>No drops whatsoever.
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>>171547549
Toobs is a cutie, but Rei is lightyears beyond her as a character.
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>all boss themes had an 8-bit version already premade for the hacking segments
ONE STEP AHEAD OF THE REST
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>>171547595
I'd finish the game before judging her character completely
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>>171547687
I'm not that anon, and I finished the game.
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>>171547585
>impossible to understand way
>impossible for me to understand
>other people's preferences and experiences of media need to be understood by me to have justification
autism
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What's the best combo of weapons?
>spear
>short sword
That's what I like at least. I feel like large swords don't do enough damage for being so slow, and I haven't gotten a fist gauntlet thing yet.
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>>171547571
I've never fast travelled and clocked in at 20 for A and 40 for E, how were you playing the game?
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>>171547721
Oh, my bad
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>>171547589
No, I playing for the first time and I just kill it and nothing happens
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>>171547595
>Rei above anyone, in any medium, ever
Maybe you should make like Evangelion and return to nothing faggotron
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>>171547585
>I shit on peoples preferences when I can't understand or let go of the concept that everyone has different tastes and pulls meaning differently than I

Not that anon, but if you actually believe that you're typing than I'll have to disagree.
So you think they have a poor prefereance.
Kay. So what are you going to do about it? Complain to me about it? Make me listen to the thing you want me to listen to and force me to like it? And if I still don't like it am I still incorrect in my decision?
What is your end game? Because you don't seem to have one beyond "you're wrong because I say you're wrong and you've no valid answer I'm willing to accept otherwise".
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>>171547801
>berserkfag in charge of anything
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why are you assholes killing the tank
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>>171547776
Huh. Neat.

Were you in a corner, or did you really overkill the thing when you finished it off?

The unit data is the only thing that really matters anyway. You'll get more money making drops later.
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>>171543441
HOLD THE FUCKING PHONE.
ARE THOSE NIER RUNES?
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>>171547741
>beta orbiter japanophiliacs that cry about western everything acting like unstable balls of energy because of grorious nippon is less autistic than making any number of "I understand Japanese" "The full game is subbed, you don't miss anything, it was the intended language" tier explanations
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>>171547750
I did every side quest I possibly could. I'm also an autist when it comes to RPGs and I double check every new area to make sure I didn't miss anything while exploring. And now that I think about it I might've left the game in the pause menu for a few hours, so that could've added some time
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>>171547883
Its been said that the game might be related in some way.
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>>171547883
they're called angelic script anon
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>>171547890
There is no way I'm going to decipher that.
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>>171547883
>hold the fucking phone
Well, you kind of have to in order to play.
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>>171547747
You use charged attack+ chips and spear/large swords to maximize their potential.
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man dub 9s is great, when he stabbed/got stabbed my a2 his death cries were pretty well done
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>>171547821
Since you aren't gifted with the ability to comprehend english I'll spell it out for you retard:

"I use the Japanese dub because I just prefer the sound. No real reason."

"I PREFER THE JAPANESE DUB BECAUSE WESTERN JEWS CONTROLLING THE MEDIA AND 3DPD POLLUTING MY EAR HOLES"
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>>171547191
21O always seemed like more of a big sister character to me. 6O is like that cute girl nextdoor.
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>>171547973
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>>171547549
Rei was curious, very intelligent and dramatic.
2B was or at least pretended to be a dumb grunt.

I'm so far halfway into the Route B and 9S shines like he actually knows whats up but tries not to upset Toobie and pretends that machines are talking random gibberish out of their ass.

But Toobie in her turn looks like she just doesnt give a fuck. I dunno if she really doesnt, or is too good at pretending, or shines as a character later.
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>>171547294
seawolf?
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>>171547585
Your conception of rational or irrational, justified or unjustified is subjective to your own perspective, as is everyone else's.

Regardless, he wasn't making a point that needed justification, he was simply asking a question.

Why attack someone over something as small as that? Are you the type of person that does this for attention?
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is there any reason why the funny speaking machine wanted the forest kingdom bots dead? It was really creepy when you turn the quest in and he starts going off the deep end and the music gets ominous
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>>171548085
>intelligent, nihilistic, and a wicked sense of humor
>characters who aren't that are stupid because I said so
>not even halfway through all the routes
>reifag
>acting like your opinion matters due to the above
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>>171547632
Theres a 8-bit version of every music for minigames and hacking on every level.
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>>171547989
what impresses me the most is his eng voice actor is like, the purest and nicest guy imagineable with a soft spoken voice and endless positivity, yet somehow he was able to nail the performance nonetheless.
voice acting is pretty impressive when you think about transforming and acting only through your voice
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>>171547857
I jumped on the back of it and ripped out it's machine core spine
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>>171548034
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>>171548142
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>>171548134
Go bother to read the posts he made, he even preemptively calls himself a weeb. I'm not dealing with some guy who just simply explains his preference, I'm listening to a fucking man goblin hiss at the instance of english voices
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>>171548157
>nihilistic, and a wicked sense of humor
What are you even talking about?
>Stupid
Well her every response this far was only
>I dont care
And
>It doesnt matter
If she is pretending to be boring she's good at it
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>>171547747
When you get gauntlets, large sword/gauntlets is the best combo. The baseball swing does a lot of damage plus knockback.
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>>171548108
Yeah. I wonder if anyone running the senshi con up here is going to try and book her,
being an alum that's done something vaguely relevant.
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>>171548284
>reifags are this dumb
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>>171546589
1: Does that lock you out of mouse use?
2: If not, I would assume try rotating one of the thumb sticks a few times.
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>>171548384
>2Bfags are in this much denial that their ass character is as boring as she "pretends" to be
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>>171548262
Im the guy who said shitting on people for preference is pointless. I never called myself a weeb, that was the dude you originally replied too. And for what it's worth I played both English and Japanese and felt they were both good
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>That music that plays when you finish the "rescue the little boy machine for his mother" or "rescue the little girl machine for her sister" quests
I didn't ask for it to start raining.
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>>171548085
I'll just say there's more to 2Bs character you haven't seen yet. I won't pretend it might change your view on her completely, but I thinks it worth seeing the full scope of her character before thinking she's shit
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Drakengard 2 is canon
Nowe is literally the strongest character in the whole series
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>>171548367
She definitely should come visit one year. If I remember correctly she is the founder senshi con.
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>>171548437
Can you not read the part where I refer to the OP differently than you? Do you need help?
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>>171548603
Glad to hear that.
Toobs is a good girl its great if shes actually getting developed as a character further in the story.
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>>171548436
>dumb reifag who only cares about nihilistic, intelligent, and wicked sense of humor archetypes that hasn't even scratched the surface of the game thinks his opinion matters
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>>171548604
Why does nobody like me, Legna?
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Hold up.
Is the B button appearing on enemies that are still alive?
Is that some sort of visceral attack? I can't tell if it's doing anything because it's showing up when I'm attacking and shooting at the same time it seems.
>>
I'm surprised that nobody talks about the funny details of C route.

>Those ominous Resource Recovery Units
>The Tower corporate message that plays when you first go to the entrance and probably try to hack it.
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>>171548818
you punt them to death
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>>171548768
Adult Manah is the only good thing about your game.
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>>171548864
How do I do it without button mashing?
I-I'm doing poorly since I just started. I'm not dodging right.
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So what's with all the 9S did nothing wrong memery?
Usually when that meme is going on the character has actually done something wrong
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>>171548743
I'm not even that anon you were arguing with earlier faggot

2B's "character" is that she loves 9S

That's literally all there is to her character, other than that shes boring.
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>>171548924
just shoot them until they topple
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>>171548645
Whatever man, my point still stands. Not once did that dude insinuate that people are any lesser for liking english dubs. You're the only one here sperging over other peoples preference.
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>>171548950
>One note characters are bad even if that single note is well developed
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>>171548939
>the character has actually done something wrong

>Murder isn't wrong
>What 9S did isn't wrong
Subtle.
I'm on to you.
>>
Did 2B just swat the camera away as I was walking up the stairs and looking up her skirt?
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>>171549025
who did 9S murder?
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>>171549025
>>Murder
Excuse me???
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>>171549001
>posting delay
That's what I fucking thought. Never reply to me again, you pathetic faggot.
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>>171549052
Holy shit.
Haven't seen that since Resident Evil 4.
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>>171549124
What the fuck are you even talking about now?
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>>171549024
She literally never develops

We're seeing her at the point where she already loves 9S. From the time we see her to the time she dies she never changes as a character.
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>>171549052
Yes.
It could be my imaginary on but I think she also frowns angry while doing that.
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>>171549182
Anon she first meets 9s when we first meet him.
I doubt she loved him before she met him.
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>>171549243
:)
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>>171548950
Wait, 2B loves 9S? I thought they just had that hero and loyal sidekick relationship, like homies.
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>>171549081
>>171549096
>We're fighting Machines, so it can't be MANslaughter!
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>>171549182
Not him, but learning the circumstances behind her character was enough to make me appreciate her more
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>>171549292
So you're saying he did indeed do nothing wrong?
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>Just watched OneyPlays and he started FF7 again so he just did the bombing mission.
I'm getting good FF7 vibes from this. Like it's a new FF7. For me at least. I didn't get to play FF7 when it came out.
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>>171549292
Fuck off Four
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>>171549243
Have you gotten ending C or D yet?

Anon, do you not know that 2B is actually 2E, an executioner model assigned to kill 9S whenever he gets too close to finding the truth about YoRHa
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>switch to english voices
>mfw 9S voice
>immediately switch back
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>>171549437
Gotten all the endings except Y now.
Yes I do know that.
They first meet at the factory.
2B doesn't know 9S before that.
9S doesn't know 2B before that.
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>>171549292
it's not wrong

that's like saying the whole of YoRHa commits manslaughter
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>>171533352
I-I need the full image, f-for research purposes.
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>>171549450
>disliking English 9S when he is objectively an upgrade to "generic 9S"
Pleb detected
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>>171549450
This.
English Toobs aint great either
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>>171549450
English 9S was probably one I preferred over the Jap to be honest.
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>Put headphones on my cheeks by my ears, not on them
>Take off headphones to hear if it's windy.

Neat. Good sound.
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Automata is my first Taro game, just got Ending C
I can't express how great everything was.
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>>171549704
Kaneki or Shinji
I'd pick former.
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>>171549840
the ride isnt over just yet friendo
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>>171549517
Is this true? I mean it's insinuated that 2B has had to deal with 9S multiple times, but she only kills him twice after they meet in the factory.
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Does anyone know if the room with all the trophies in the library is actually meant to represent something? Is it just showing the trophies you've gotten in the game or what?
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>>171549517
but 2B's been killing 9S since he was created. It's evident in the fact that when he's in the tower surrounded by 2Bs he says that he finally gets to kill her and also when Adam tells him "you just want to **** 2B don't you?". I think there's even a side story about when 2B had to kill 9S during a time before the game started.
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>>171549906
It's never implicitly stated either way. But they both act like they've never met before the factory incident.
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>>171549704
>>171549796
I gave it a shot I really did, but the way he said "boar" just triggered the fuck out of me
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21O and 9S is the superior ship
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>>171549517
you do know in the novella released with the JP collectors edition it details a scene where 2B had to kill 9S before the events of the game started?
you do know at the end of route A she says, "it always ends like this"?
you do know right after the prologue when you talk to 9S and he chose uploading his data instead of yours, she makes that fist not to meme but in frustration that her data was chosen over his?
you do realize the entire "emotions are prohibited" is her intentionally distancing herself from the emotions she's built up over time, and that she in all likelihood was the one who came up with the nines nickname?
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>>171550116
2B and 6O is the best ship
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>>171550001
Well thats because 9S always has his memory wiped. And of course 2B would act like she's never met him, considering what her job is
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>>171549517
>2B doesn't know 9S before that.
Uh no, 2B has been killing 9S for a long time now that she starts to feel sick doing it.
>9S doesn't know 2B before that.
Of course he doesn't, command literally wipes his memories relating to 2B or any other he did that they don't like.
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>>171549909
did you play the first nier?
if not, that library is a recreation of a very important building in the og nier, and in that trophy room you collected trohphies of the bosses you had defeated. so its basically just a callback to the first nier
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>>171534368
>making a cheat trainer for a game where you can literally unlock debug mode
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>>171533352
Try in your infinite futility to place yourself in Yoko Taro's enigmatic brain

Which ending would determine to be canon for a sequel?

Or if we're being realistic, the ending chosen to get a novella extension which contains the real ending
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>>171550269
O obviously.
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>>171550140
>and that she in all likelihood was the one who came up with the nines nickname?
Really? my heart...
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>lvl twenty
>heading to desert housing to mop up some sidequests before exploring the bigass hole in the city
>suddenly theres a fucking solid gold tank smack in the middle of the dunes
>little gold guy hoping around too
>holy shit these guys are sturdy
>spend the next hour smacking the courageous brother around
>weapons arent upgraded
>unstaggerable and a billion fucking health, spamming his armspin move like a little cunt
>footing is fucking aweful, half the time im sliding down the dunes
>finally beat the fucker
>turn around to take on the tank
>beat it in half the time
>pattern was piss easy and I didnt take damage
>head back and fight blackbelt father servo
>go to save
>another fucking courageous cockgoblin right in front of the teleporter
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>>171550269
L i think it was, the one where 2b says fuck it and takes up fishing
nier 3 is a fishing simulator with a hacknslash mini-game when the new yorha squad tries to hunt her down.
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>>171549517
>2B doesn't know 9S before that.
(You)(You)(You)(You)(You)
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>>171550116
Eh, I'll take it under consideration.

The appeal seems to be that it's a less painful version of the dynamic with 2B, but there isn't really anything pushing it from 9S' perspective and 21O was kind of platonic about it.
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>>171550140

>Doesn't want to call 9S 'Nines'
>Insists that he stops calling her 'ma'am'

Oh Toobie. And yeah, her and 9S go back a while but he gets wiped every time.
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>>171550385
You just arent supposed to kill them yet

And hole in the city gives you fast travel so do it ASAP
But dont do the Sunken city "defend the ships" quest before you finished sidequests
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>>171542956
If that's real he's an incredibly kind man.
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Ending E felt oddly optimistic. My head canon is 2B and 9S had their t shirt date while A2 and her pod body went on an adventure
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>>171550489
i'm aware, thats what i was referencing in the cutscene with her being frustrated at 9S for only backing up her data. she remembers everything. he remembers nothing. if he had chosen his own data over hers, then she'd have finally been released of the heavy emotional burden she's always carrying

also forgot to mention in that post that one of the first interactions you get in the bunker after prologue is an operator pointing out that 2B and 9S always seem to be together.
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Futa 2B fucking 9S in the ass when?
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Fighting the golden guys was fucking depressing man. Why can't Taro let me slash up robots without feeling like a piece of shit about it
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>>171550697
>>171550489
>mfw meeting that other E model that kept resetting her memory and started spazzing out in the middle of the conversation
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>>171550269
The one where 9S doesn't just take 2B's arm he takes her get up and combat module so when Emil sees him he can't recall the name of the android cause its 9S in drag. Oh, and humanity's come back as a new legion hence the need for a new network to fend itself. 9S will sock puppet his left hand for commentary and taro will hint that occasionally he'll rape it.in standard Taro fashion he'll drop hints that the arm still retains 2B's sentience and memories and that 9S has been subconsciously hiding this fact from himself outside the sock puppet moments and his "alone time" back at camp
Tl;dr DLC.
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>>171550617
fuck so I wasted all that time? I thought it was a secret mega boss or something.
At least it was satisfying when they finally bought it.

guess I'll take your advice and explore th hole then.
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>>171550732
When i'm done making FutanKaine being dommed hardcore by KFCommander.
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>>171550780
On the second play through Nines can hack them to death easy peasy.

And I have a feeling that certain incredibly fat enemies arent supposed to be killed on first playthroug
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>>171550732
NEVER
STOP TRYING TO PUT DICKS ON THINGS THEY DON'T BELONG ON FUTAFAGS
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2B and 9/ss/ is canon right?
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I'm risking spoilers, but:
>have steam controller
>right pad camera controls like ass unless I set it to mouse-like-joystick mode
>any top down aiming section (flight, hacking) is absolute cancer using MLJ
Anyone else own Gaben's $50 controller? Looking for a better control scheme.
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>>171550912
"Never stop" you say?
Okay!
i'm the only doujinshi maker you got for this series at this point. Suffer like Yoko wants.
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>>171550923
I think they both care for each other deeply and Ending E ended open enough that you can freely imagine where their relationship ends up.
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>>171550938
Is it even good when it does work?
I kinda had a feeling that touch controls are absolute cancer.
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>>171550912
They're androids though. Surely they must be at least a little modular
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>>171550923
9S uses a female chassis but runs on a male OS
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>>171550982
If you're gonna do it at least make her fuck a normal girl. That way I can lie to myself and pretend it isn't that gay
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>>171550269
BoltsBAE > SaltBAE
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>>171550912
Oi, Dipshit
9S literally uses a female body, check 9S' corpse and you'll see that it's no different from 2B's.
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>>171551065
h e a d c a n o n
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>>171551156
What's that got to do with putting a dick on 2B?
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>>171551024
I use it for Dark Souls and Automata with success. Mouse-like-joystick output on the right pad lets you swipe across it to adjust your camera, which feels pretty natural. It responds kinda like a trackball, but you can disable that.

The problem is that since it recenters itself when you stop moving on it, you can't move in one direction and aim in another during the twin-stick shooter segments. It makes hacking a LOT harder than necessary. I'll mess with mode shifting on one of the grip buttons, maybe.
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>>171551065
There actually are flat chested corpses. They aren't all the same female model with various scraps of skin remaining.

9S couldn't possibly have a female chassis anyway. His hips are narrow.
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>>171551069
No.
kaine gets dimensioned over somehow, literally the only human YoRHa has seen so they study her, find out her secret, make the connection that she bares a striking resemblance to an older model, determine her phenotype to be the "base model" of all female androids, in a frenzy to copy Kaine's "style", all female androids "upgrade" themselves with this new gleaned data, male androids don't cause they have no data for this yet deapite Kaine's insistence its a male aspect, 1-4 doujinshis of futa's banging futa's and domming male androids while teasing them that they'll NEVER know that kind of pleasure.
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>>171551271
Yes there are but the ones 9S drops upon death has tits for crying out loud.
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>>171551381
But 9S doesnt have tits. Sounds more like an oversight by developers to me
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>>171551314
Don't be cheeky, Taro.
Yes, the androids don't have sexes, and their genders are more or less arbitrary details about manufacture and dress. People can wrap their heads around it.
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>>171551306
>gets dimensioned over somehow
i mean, accord can manipulate time right? who says she cant pick up kaine and bring her to the future
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>>171551682
Pan-dimensional sex merchant.
Suppose i could now stretch that 4+ goal.
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>the way 9S handles spears
His throw seems to be able to hit things on another side of a screen, and it hits hard.
Also his perfect dodge spear counter has like twice as much range as the one on 2B so he hits everything around and sends it flying into walls.

What spear is the best with him?
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It took me 5 hours to beat the prologue on very hard.
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>>171551772

I rolled with the Phoenix Spear or the 4O Lance.
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>>171551381
Devs simply didn't bother to make a separate male dead android model because like 99% of them are females.
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Ok. Jesus Christ. I really can't be in this general until I beat the fucking game.
God damn it. Who are you people who beat the game in 24 hours?
WE GOT WORK TOMORROW! GO TO BED!
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>>171551886
It's been out for like a week bro
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>>171551846
They already made 9S, they could have edited a corpse from his own model.
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>>171551886
It's been out on PS4 for a good bit anon
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>>171551926
>>171551896
Oh
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>>171551886
it's been out for a month dude
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>>171551886
it came out on ps4 nearly 2 weeks ago, and hell it released in japan last month
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So the pods are partially antagonists alongside the hologram-psudeohumans, right?
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>>171552145
No. They're merely narrators of EVERY ending/story and are on their own quest of self discovery which culminates in the bitter motes of an Id & Ego towards the end.
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>>171552235
But aren't they the ones that had yorha to be destroyed as planned? That's what ending D seems to imply.
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So you can replace textures with that full screen mod apparently. But dumping them is a mess, to say the least. It's a bundle of garbage, took me minutes to find this one.
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>>171552367
>jpg
I'm dumb.
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If anyone wants to make a DS4 mod.
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>>171552360
They were just following their program. They weren't "sentient" yet.
"I can do no wrong for i do not know what that is."
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How long are subsequent playthroughs?

Finished my first in about 16hrs and did all but like 5 side quests that were on the map.
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>>171552642
I mean, that doesn't change the fact that their programming makes them want yorha gone, which we, as the player, do not want. Thus making them antagonists.
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>>171552718
maybw 2/3rds the length of 2B.
Playtime over all is A2/2B 50% 9S 50%.
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>>171552718
Are you referring to just one route, or up until the end of route C? Route A took me 13 hours but the full game took 30 for me.
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>>171552792
But we do? Remember they just a tool of N2 and liars. They don't actively DO anything good either.
>>
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Having a problem with Sorting Trouble 3 sub-quest.
After talking to Jackass and going to their storage area on roof, cleared the enemies and moved all the boxes out of the way but the guy won't talk to me. Three times trying to do this and still no talk prompt with him.
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>>171552867
I like 9S, 2B and 2A. In order for yorha to be wiped out they need to get rid of them. Which, I won't speak for anyone else here, I do not want.
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>>171552969

There's probably some enemies on the ground floor aggroing. Kill them too and see if that helps.
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>>171553040
Thanks a bunch!
Killing those stupid machines on the street helped.
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>Cruel Blood Oath weapon story
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>>171551147
>>171533457
These two things must come together into a SFM of Sal2Bae preparing a mackerel for 9S
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Are the PC graphics that much better than PS4?
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>>171553017
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>Toobie is female
>9S drops female corpse
>2A if female

Ok then, where do the male corpses come from?
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i hope each and every one of you has an excellent day today
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>>171553213
>stupid machines
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up until the ending of route c a2 is portrayed as a sort of brash and uneducated character.

then, when she fights 9s, she's suddenly rather knowledgeable about specific plot points and is not as rude as she usually is. i found this rather jarring. i'm wondering if there's an explanation for this change in personality, or if i am perhaps overthinking it.
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>>171552970
Major spoilers:
it does and they survive because of the pods becoming relatively self aware and fixing them and backing them up. It ends on the note that they're older versions so they might still end up being their regular shitty un-enlightened selves but the pods hope they can change and act against their programming as they themselves have and make a better future.
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>>171553619
She gets access to the Tower library and learns a whole lot of stuff there. That, and this new knowledge is reinforced by 2B's memories which she inherited through the sword.
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>>171553678
Didn't they say they preserved their memories of the game's events?

The only question mark on that would be 9S' I guess, since he has the option of sending his memories off to Mars with Adam's and Eve's.
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>>171553678
Not talking about ending E. Up until they start feeling guilt about what they're doing they're more than happy to wipe yorha off the map. It's only after they feel guilt about what they're doing that they try to fix what happened
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>>171553358
I'm glad I upgraded that one before finishing the story
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>>171533352
I'd give my left foot for a sound file of a good line of Pod's dialogue for a text message ringtone
>>
can we agree the pods did nothing wrong and were the best characters

bless you pods we don't deserve such kind watchers like yourselves
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>>171553939
I want Emil's thanks friendo
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>>171554390
Shit, that'd be a nice one too.
Audio rips when
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>That finale
NO REGRETS
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>>171553358
Was that the seven brothers story? That was pretty fucked. I wish they explained his motive.
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How do I get the mounts to go into full sprint?
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>>171553721
If she inherited 2B's memories how did she not know about Pascal and the machine village?
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>>171554828
she knows
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Was A2 built with long hair or does it grow? It confused me that her hair was long again in Ending E
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who /didn't/ delete this save data here!?
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>>171554383
I was kinda expecting the pods to be spying on you or something to stab you in the back.

>>171554975
Want to get that platinum trophy before wiping my data
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“As for the future, I am thinking of returning to being unemployed. I get bored very fast, so I would like to do something new. Something like a restaurant is attractive. It does seem to be a very tough job though.”

How will Taro incorporate asymmetric storytelling into his restaurant business?
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>>171555072

You start at the dessert

You need to collect all the ingredients of the appetiser at several different locations.

There's another main course if you've collected all knives, spoons and forks.
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>>171555189
kek
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>>171554642
Why do you think they decided to implement that whole part about helping the weak in times of trouble at your own expense? I had an impression it had something to do with the culturally high rates of suicide in Japan amongst young adults.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4qEh8agDwI

here's the best song in the game
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>>171554849
she doesn't seem to when you first arrive. she immediately assumes that pascal is hostile.
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So i have to beat this game 3 times to get ending E?
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>>171555751
approach the village before Hegel, she says something about 2B's memories and knowing what's in the village

it's kind of vague desu
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>>171555671
BECOME AS

GODS

BECOME AS

GODS
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>>171555957

WE'LL ALL DIE TOGETHER
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>>171554689
Nah, that's one on Blood Oath and i don't know what it talks about.
I mean, the whole point of a game is that we don't know what 9S hides and he could do something THIS fucked before. But all the traitor talk is also applicable to 2B.
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okay so I just finished ending E.

And I must say I'm kind of disappointed with the ending. It is happy as Yoko mentioned before, but it is too damn tranquil...
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I'm gonna play Taro's mobage!
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>>171556431
this desu

I got the game to feel sad not hopeful
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who else can't wait for Best Friends Play: NieR Automata xD
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>>171546557
Mate, it's Taro's moeshit.
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>>171556664
I can't wait for TheDarkId's NieR: Automata LP (^^)
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>>171556664

I dunno man, no Liam?
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>>171556664
TFS is pretty good, Lani's machine voice is on point
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>>171545084
>Why she can't be happy?
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Tell me /ndg/, why does he wear the ma- oh.
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>>171556850
literally who
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Tell me things you DON'T like about the game
1. Many sidequests are repetitive and uninteresting
2. Game world is small and mostly uninteresting to look at
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>>171557163
3. can't open menu when your feet isn't touching the ground
4. have to wait for animals to completely stand up before you can ride
5. Adam and Eve
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>>171557163

1. I didn't really like the Route C/D War prologue. It was grey as shit and hard to see.
2. A2 needed a bit more character development in game, outside of the archives/references to the YoRHa stage play.
3. Too many bosses were just a ball/a bunch of balls. Though the fights were interesting mecahnically they could've switched up the aesthetic.
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>>171556936

>Not recognizing our lord and savior Yoko Taro

GET OUT
GET OUT OF THIS GENERAL NOW.
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>>171557163

my only complaint right now is the lack of any sort of scaling difficulty, i'm level 54 now and trying to clear up side quests and get some better chips and just everything except for some obvious late game side stuff dies in 1 hit making it all very trivial and boring. I feel like any kind of "skill" i built up is fading away.
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Reposting
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>>171557360
what the fuck are you talking about? we all know he only has three forms
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>>171557163
I don't like that the characters, music and plot are all worse than the original Nier.
I'm not saying those things are BAD, just that they failed to top Nier.
Also, for a PLATINUM game, the bosses are really fucking lackluster with maybe 2 exceptions.

>>171556664
I used to watch them. Stopped watching before they played Nier, not for any big reason I just sorta forgot about them.
I can't fucking stand comments sections for shit Nier/Drakengard related because 50/50 it's gonna have "MUH ZAIBATSU BOUGHT ME HERE ::)))))))" shit.
I still find them entertaining, but I couldn't imagine watching a Nier or Automata playthrough by them. I'll just watch their David Cage stuff.
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>>171555189
>theres only enough sets of utensils for 80% attendance beyond a certain point in the dinner hour so it comes down to who has a full set come supper
>secretly for those that willingly give others their utensils their check will he comped and a plaque with their name shall be put up on the wall
>the wall remains bare for the 3 months and 5 days the restaurant entertained Taro before he got bored again
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>>171557407
>my only complaint right now is the lack of any sort of scaling difficulty
What difficulty setting are you on? I'm was on normal and enemies were keeping up with my level and getting new forms and shit.
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>>171557521

normal. the playthrough's were fine, it's now that i've finished E that im going back through chapter select.
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>>171555957
>>171556031
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>>171557673

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mthN2dqJMJk
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>>171557601
yeah I can't even replay bosses
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This game, man
This game
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>>171558045
Are those fucking Emil heads
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>I've died in the first mission and have had to restart three times now
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>>171558123
I'm genuinely surprised that Taro managed to write possibly the best love story in entire vidya and this screen is a perfect way to finish the game when you understand that it's 2B's sword and 9S' pouch together in a middle of darkness.
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>>171558123
is there a wallpaper version of this pic without the title and
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>>171558272
You're in for a treat anon.
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>>171558454
what the fuck is wrong with your game
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>>171558045
>Emil's heads charged attack with 9S
I wish they scaled bosses to your level or something.
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I really like this game.
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is Yoko Taro the Toby Fox of Japan?
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>>171554798
Still looking for an answer to this for KBM controls. The tutorial says press W but far as I can tell trying to dash does nothing.
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>>171558539
I wish they scaled everything to your level, chapter select is pretty much a joke in terms of gameplay.
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>2B gets a bunch of boring fetch quests
>9S gets a bunch of cool quest with fun dialogues and unique hacking levels
Game dev machine, redhead E unit where 2B gets jealous as fuck, NEET robot and idiot savant are some of the most hilarious side quests i've seen in the game so far.
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>>171558923
It's the evade button for controllers. Tried that?
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Who is the best boss in the game and why is it OBJECTIVELY Simone?

>those visuals
>that theme music that syncs with its attacks

I was actually quite disappointed that the boss battles basically peaked with her. Not saying the others were shit but nothing really came close to being that (and I dislike using this word) epic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIeVc1yE4TY
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>>171559186
>redhead E unit
>hilarious

huh, it actually was aside from the ending
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>>171559293

I really liked all the Adam & Eve boss battles.
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>>171559293
I think you mean Beauvoir?
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>>171559293
Adam in the Copied City is a close one.
Either way, bosses peak in Route A, sadly.
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>>171559304
It was hilarious mostly because of 2B reaction.
>get out of the building
>suddenly tells him that he only accepted the quest because she's cute then shuts him off
>get to the camp
>throws an angry tantrum about gifts out of fucking nowhere then shuts him off again
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>>171559374

Beauvoir is called Simone and Sartre is called Jean-Paul in the EU version.

Fuck if I know why, all the other philosophers still have their last names.
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on second playthrough
am i able to go back at all to certain parts of the game later to get certain endings or no?
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>>171559190
All I have access to is KBM. Evade for that is just doubeltap a direction. As an aside, Doge on KBM is shit. Shit as in it's an essential mechanic that is halfway to impossible to do well.
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>>171559365
I thought that the Eve bossfight was kinda lackluster and a bit too easy but I love his design
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Anyone scanned the art book yet?
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>>171559535
I like the design as well but it literally came out of nowhere.

>hurr me angry
>get nanomachines

At least with Adam he just wore clothes.
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>>171559482
Copyright issues, they even censored both the japanese and english dub by bleeping out the names. I still think it's pretty stupid but whatever.
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>>171558314
A single light in a sea of darkness. Really makes me optimistic for their future with just that single image. A picture telling a thousand words, if you will. Well done. Please Taro, don't snuff it out later, they've suffered enough. ;_;
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>>171559523
>All I have access to is KBM
Yea, i meant "try the dash input equivalent for keyboard".
So that should be doubletapping "W"?
Doe's that work?
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>>171559793
I'm hopeful he won't ever touch on post-E ending and that if we will ever get side materials, they will be about Adam/Eve/CaimS space adventures.
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>>171559807
Nope.
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>>171559518

Yes, there is a chapter select in case you missed anything
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>>171550269
>tfw this image is actually 2B killing 9S
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>>171559482
Satre died fairly recently and due to copyright laws in america being 70 years post death when the rights run out we can't actually use his name in anything.
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>>171559971
>>171559793
>The [E]nd of YoRHa: Requiem
>9S and 2B wakes up
>9S goes nuts
>2B puts him down
>2B cries
>A2 suffers crippling loneliness and no machines to kill
>the end
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I love the flashback conversations between Adam and Eve. The patience that Adam had for Eve and his questions.

>nii-chan, why must we wear undergarments? It's such a hassle
>humans covered their crotches as they went about their business, showing their genitals was seen as problematic
>ok... why do I have to eat this plant matter?
>it's a type of fruit, records show humans ate fruit and gained knowledge from doing so
>ok... can we play later?
>yes

>nii-chan, why do I have to read this book?
>reading books expands your knowledge
>ok... in the books it said Eve is a woman's name
>you should be proud of your name
>ok... can we play later?
>yes, but only when we've finished
>then I will try extra hard to finish

He's like a big kid.
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>>171560106
At least he won't suffer.
I bet every time she was forced to kill him aside from the one shown in the novel she managed to do it stealthy and before he could realize what happens.
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>>171560015
I finally figured it out. Far as I can tell, KBM controls want you to be moving when engage the dash. The problem is, lifting up the key to double tap it takes you from full movement to zero while mounted, thus you aren't considered moving for the second tap, thus you just start trotting again. Only way to do it is to be moving sideways, then double tap W, then let go of the side movement.
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OST fooking when

>>171559971
>Ayylmao invaders home world is still out there and they might pay a visit
>door DLC
>emil heads timeloop story
>ending E minecraft/survival DLC
>life starting somewhere else with Adam eve and mankind
>none of them involving the little jet fighters they use
Potential there is, and considering this is the best game yoto ever made to sell 290k+ we should see something sometime soon
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>>171560253
Jegus xing

Thank god I have a controller. This is a big deal and it really deserves to be patched
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I really like that the game emphasized time after time since the very beginning how important 9S is during the missions.
He regularly saves the day even if it hurts him in the end.
>hacks Eve and takes him away from the network
>takes control of the same bigass machine arm he uses and they smash each other
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>>171560191

>>ok... in the books it said Eve is a woman's name
>Shouldn't we be called Cain and Abel or something?
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>>171560191
He is. Basically adam being the first and the situation he was born into instantly thrust him into thinking analytically. He mentally matured further becausd of this.
Eve's first moments were tragedy and filled with emotion so he instantly leaned towards that. Eve's also always had his big bro to be the brains of the group while he was the emotional aspect.

I honestly feel really bad for them cause they really are just big kids though ones more like a teen and its entirely not their fault they ended up a little off.
What kid actually has morality and guilt unless he's taught it? Ontop of that their first moments alive were directly them being attacked and hurt for no real reason.
Shit actually depressed me the second i saw Eve hopping up and down at the dinner table at the prospect of just spending time with his big bro fairly soon after the shit we did.
do you think if 2B/9S just held him and gave him a shoulder to cry on that maybe, just maybe, we could have saved a life for once that deserved it in a Taro game?
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>watching friend play on normal
>only like 1/8th of damage taken

what is this babby mode
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>>171560203
I can't remember where but i distinctly recall a bit of lore that basically said 2B has a routine or some such where she just choked him out from behind like usual except this time gunfire stopped it or something.
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>>171560740
No because machine lifeforms were still the real enemy, even tho' both 2B and 9S kinda understood there were exceptions because of the whole disconnecting from the network and such.
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>>171560840
Even hard was pretty easy once you leel up 2-3 tiems and get some good chips. I wish story bosses would level with you
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>>171560253
>Keyboard with 100+ keys
>What should we bind sprint to?
>Double tap a key already used for something else
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If 9S chooses to go with Adam and Eve on the rocket ship how is he getting revived at the end of E?
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>>171560203
>It was good, though
Literally died of laughter here desu 10/10
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WHY ARE YOU SO BORING 2B
WHY CAN'T WE SEE YOUR CHARACTER BEFORE THE WHOLE REPEATED KILLING STARTS
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Is it true that Nier/Drakengard names will help you in the credits if you're offline?
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>>171561024

A copy of his consciousness was collected by the Machine Network and shot into space. There's still a 9S dying on Earth.

Basically we SOMA now.
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made a dank maymay lads
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>>171560935
That could have been the beginning.
A new ally that can sway half the network to his direction.
N2 might have even liked it since that shit forced further network evolution and possibly got rid of the remainder of a highly dangerous divergent variable.
It could have worked to with the rocket taking the good bots to a new tomorrow and the networked bots in enough disarray that it takes 500 years to get back to being a functional network.
But it IS a Taro game though just once i would like to see an actual star in these dark skies.
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So how do you guys think about the Ending E? I like it because it's pretty hopeful, as Yoko Taro said before.

I wish a little bit more bright future to come for them after the ending. Because they deserve it.
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>>171560840
I played on hard first it was ez pz either way.
The only difference is that enemies are significantly slower to kill.

What difficulty are We even talking about when time stops and allows you to eat one of those 99 possible restoratoin items?
Not to mention being literally invincible while mashing RT. I could literally eat my dinner while fighting any amounts of enemies
Theres a dilemma oh hard the enemies are so fat its getting boring, on normal the bosses die way too fast.
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boy have I got something for you guys. it starts with soundtrack and ends with rip.

one moment
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Is he ever going to catch a break?
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>>171560950
I wish everything would level with you. They clearly could have easily done it considering the moose and boars DO level with you. Having chapter select is nice, but you have to totally start over to have any kind of challenge outside of very hard. Maybe someone will be able to fix that with a mod or something when/if the game gets cracked. Or maybe they will change it with a patch, although I doubt it. Absolutely love the game, but this is one of my biggest complaints and it kills a lot of the replayability when you can't replay your favorite parts without them being a walk in the park without totally restarting the game.
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>>171561283
oh shit

it's 9 days early how did you do it
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>>171561203

Because Yoko Taro writes his stories backwards, starting from the climax.

So in hindsight, 2B was acting pretty neat.
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>>171561214
Yes so long as you have been connected with the games data on your system at some point it preloads dev/drak/nier names to help you out.
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>>171561363
Alright, i was always wondering how the first person on this planet would beat it otherwise
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>>171561220
>yoko makes a kojima ripoff that literally builds a city made of salt thats a blatant ripoff of what other people did ages ago
Shots fired.
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>>171561214

You can't beat it offline.

There are Nier/Drakengard characters and developers floating around though, probably to help the first players complete the game (and as a nice easter egg)
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>>171561283
PRAISE
Is it flac or MP3? Or the original format?
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>>171561309
yes
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>>171561337

magic. its on ffshrine in a bit too, whenever this shit finishes uploading.
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>>171561309
He gets to die and reach the promised land on the other side where Taro's fucking hands can't reach him.
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>>171561486

original format to mp3 v1. as best as I could get it without fucking up this godlike music or getting a 2GB ost.

heads up though
>163 tracks
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>>171561270

As far as Yoko Taro endings go it's Paradise.
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>>171561591
163 tracks in 3 discs? what the fuck
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>>171561580
>implying Ending Y isn't canon and the last emil isn't currently floating in the infinite void of space going insane
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>>171561309
>that fucking tune he plays on his scooter

Makes me laugh every time.
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>>171561658

NOT. THE. OST.

GAME. RIP. (but done [kinda] properly, I promise)
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>>171561717
o-oh I thought it was the OST considering the file name
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>>171561764

oh, fuck. yeah, fucked up on the file name. heh. almost done though
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>>171561704
>>171561580
Imagine being an immortal character in a Taro game.
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>>171561248
>an actual star in these dark skies
This is the first Taro game that has a canon in-game ending where the protagonists have a chance of actually living. Ending [E] is such a positive godsend I'm surprised Taro even included it in.

>tfw when the chorus kicks in with all the messages around

>>171561591
NIGGA PRAISE
Here have one internet and my love.
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>>171561764
I hope the actual OST also has all the variations and shit, but i doubt it. The jukebox works out just fine
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I hate Taro almost as much as i fucking love him and every time, EVERY TIME, he makes a game i tell myself I won't play it cause i'll just be sad and depressed for the next month or so and EVERY TIME i play them anyway and fall in love/hate even more and that empty pit in my gut turns into a hungering maw demanding i feed it a new Taro game that won't happen for some years.
I just don't know anymore. Guys honing his shit to enough of a degree i think its starting to effect my work....
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>>171560954
>>171560438
Oh it gets worse at times. As I said, Dash controls are shit in general on KBM. For instance, if you stumble, you lose all momentum and need to be moving to reobtain enough for a dodge to count, which means it's nearly impossible to dodge out of an enemy combo, even ones that don't stun you. Also, for some reason it is almost impossible to dodge during critical health recovery--those moments when you take big hits and the screen goes black/white.
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>>171561024
There will be two of him.
One still edgy as fuck.
Another healed by 2B's intense hugs.
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>Ending D
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>>171561705
EVERY DAY'S A SALE
EVERY DAY'S A WIN
EVERY DAY'S GREAAAAAAAAAAAT
WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN
YOUUUUUU'RE
ME
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>>171561908

Doubtful. All the songs come in 2-3 variants with vocals as a separate track for (most) of them. The fucking [E] route end credits theme has -16- fucking files that it uses to create the theme song dynamically (which is pretty fucking cool though)

I made it so the vocal tracks stay separate (where possible) so you can mix the vocals with whatever version you like.

95%
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>>171561876
>tfw when the chorus kicks in with all the messages around

No joke, the chorus is the dev team singing for you - even Yoko Taro. They were all rooting for you.
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Beepy and Kalil > Hensel > Engels > Augustus and Friedrich > Grun > Beauvoir > Wendy > Roc (fuck you Roc) > Hegel
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>>171562040
That reminds me where did the original Emil fucked off to?
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>>171561930
>whatever planet that shit hits will inherit 2 gods with zero morality or impulse control and a literal Caim thats had a few millenias to work up a proper bloodlust fueled killboner.
I honestly wouldn't even be surprised if the guy just killed programs on the way there to stay occupied.
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>>171562107
No one knows. I'm guessing something like that happened to him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRozarc1kSo
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>>171562107
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Has there even been a word about demo for pc?
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>>171562107
>original emil
That IS the original emil. He's dead now which is a rare mercy coming from Taro.
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while this stupid shit takes another hour or so to propagate to the mirrors

https://u.nya.is/aljhbi.rar

its the short version of the E route end credits as separate tracks so you can make your own song

with choir? without? vocals yes no? your choice. (choir is great though)
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>>171562107

Unknown. The Emils got fucked so hard by memory loss none of them know who the original was.
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9S is for _____
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>>171562237
That Emil even explicitly stated that he's a clone.
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>>171562107
I had the impression that store seller emil was the original because he had sufficient memory of what happened in the past.

Since his copies wouldnt have so many memories the one with the furthest recollection of the past is, somewhat safely, him.

Why do people think emil is a machine? Isn't he a reverse pinocchio from nier 1?
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>>171562237
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Honestly might be my favourite game of all time.
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>>171562354
Contemplating on meaning of existence.
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>>171562363
I swear the archive thing said that original Emil talked down mega-emilipede and then died with a nice look in his face.

I could be terribly delirious from post-st.patricks day though.
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>>171562363
Unless "true Emil" here means something other than the original, it's him. Plus he remembers Kaine during that fight.
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>>171562410
Honestly is there the possibility that's a mistranslation?
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>>171562354
Getting dommed and denialed.

T.>>171551306
thanks for the inspiring picture.
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>>171562457
oh shit it actually does

then again apparently the Jap text says he cried himself to death instead of dying with a smile so I have a sliver of doubt
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I made an album with all the weapon stories and the images if anyone wants it or maybe put it in the OP next thread
http://imgur.com/a/ruqz2
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>>171562560
Does it need to be? I just assumed he forgot he's the original. That whole quest with the Lunar Tears was about him struggling to remember his history, after all.
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ok well this mirror stuff is taking ages so here

https://mega.nz/#!YsxQyS4K!RnBQvfRRW4O4cunf0ftWs1TWNBMBg6uLdLcU0QO_JXk

posted on ffshrine too


Enjoy and don't forget to BECOME AS GODS by giving up your save file.
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>>171562446
Go play the original.
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>>171562843
>Enjoy and don't forget to BECOME AS GODS by giving up your save file.
I'll redo ending E and delete the save once I actually 100% the game
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It's so boring playing as 9S, Toobie and A2 are way more fun.
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>>171562954
I remember when I said that to myself

spent like 20 more hours getting all the other shit and I don't feel like doing it anymore, the magic's gone
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>>171563079
well I'm very close anyways so it won't take more than a few hours and I'd relish the chance to play the game from clean slate all over again
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>>171536561
>>171536714
why would an android have yellow pee? they shouldn't have dehydration problems
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>>171562995
I feel like 2B and A2 are way too button mashy which becomes boring in the end. 9S is a good distraction as his strongest abilities are charged attacks and generally he feels like a technomage rather than simple fighter.
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>>171562954
Do it asap before you sink too much into it

Remember there will be dlc
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>>171562836
From what I took out of it, all his clones shared his memories BUT as more and more clones appear their memories became more and more fragmented.
I don't think TruckEmil is the original.
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>>171543441
Wasn't the original premise of NieR pretty much going to be about fairytales? Basically, the Slepping Beauty section but as a whole game?
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>>171562871
Is it better than Nier Automata? I have ordered Nier PS3, but probably wont be here for a while
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>>171562843
Thanks Anon, I'm already working on a cover, will post here shortly.
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>>171563594
Music and story is just as good if not better depending on which themes you like more, but overall it's a flawed game in other aspects. It's playable though
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>>171563594
I personally feel as if it's better in basically every way but gameplay. I know that sounds like a big deal but it just needs you to be a little patient with it.
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>>171563559
>N:A is pinnochio meets philosophy
How horrifyingly accurate
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>>171563559

The original NieR was about how both sides can do horrible stuff while they're both convinced they're doing the right thing.

Nier was born on 9/11 after all.
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I wish that instead of normal weapons they went all the way in with 9S and made his entire moveset into melee versions of pod programs or similar magic shit.
I mean, his spears and fists are fun as fuck when you utilize both combo strings and charged attacks, but imagine if he conjured the same shit as Adam/Eve, given that he was shown capable of using the same attacks Eve uses.
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Redpill me on the red eye disease, I don't remember anything about it other than it being something in that Drakengard 3 spinoff manga.
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>>171564141
I enjoyed him a lot more after i got the wire skill. But overall i wish he had a bit more to him.
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Remember her.
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>>171564141
>VERY fast 2B standing at incredible hihg speed
>VERY fast Pod 153 floating at incredible hihg speed
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So now that i've unlocked Chapter select I should just go through and sell all my non-diamond chips right? Is it time to stack +xp, +drops and auto pickup?
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>>171563164
Maybe they use biodiesel. That's partially made from used ccoking oil, which is typically yellow.
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>>171558431
Here you go.
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>>171564306
Well they are standing next to 9S opening black holes so they kinda need to be fast to get the fuck out.
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>>171564334
tyvm
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>>171564283
*autistic waving*
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>>171552456
>>171552539
Do you have anymore of these?
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>>171564318
I used overclock, deadly heal, autoheal, anti chain damage and auto item pickup for basicly the whole game. I always got way more EXP than i needed i had to hold back in most story boss fights to not skip phases.
You could just fuse a lot of it though, leads to chips that cost less space. And if you want infintie money go the park in hcapter 4, buy silver and gold ores and sell them in hcapter 11 in the bunker for double the price
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>>171564283
The wolfs did nothing wrong.
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What the fuck are these picture book supposed to be about? I know the desert one is Beepy and the flooded city one is Grun but what about the rest?
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>>171537813
>Pod 042
And here I thought it was a HHGttG reference.
Probably both.
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>>171564593
fuck you Roc
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>>171564237

Red Eye Disease is the malevolent Gods of Drakengard forcing a pact upon people. Either you accept and become a red-eyed drone, or refuse and get turned into a pillar of salt. This shit (and the influence of these gods, the 'Watchers') spread to the Nier universe through Drakengard 1's joke ending
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>>171564595

They're about the bosses trying out different aspects (or 'shapes') of humanity
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>>171564663
No that's WCS, anon is asking about the original Red Eye Disease in Drakengard
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>>171564595
The one in the amusement park is about machines finding and cherishing concepts made by the human race as they try to imitate them.
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>>171564763
>>171564778
It feels so random and I can't make sense of any of them. Why is Fire of Prometheus the picture book for the desert? Why is Grun the only one with a relevant picture book story?

I would very much prefer if they were just straightforward backstories of the boss like last time or like in the forest kingdom, I'm too dumb for these.
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>nier not killing beepy caused the entirety of automata
as if humanity wasn't enough
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Welp, I just caught a pod. Totally unexpected.
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Is there anything Nier didn't fuck up?
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>97% on weapons

Fuck. Where is the last one!?

Also where do I get Gold Ore?
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>>171565272
Kaine/Emil depending on your version
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Anyone upload 9S onto the Ark?

Deep Space Nines
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>>171565330
You can buy it in the Amusement Park unless you're so far ahead that they're zombies then go back to hacpter 4.
Do you have the weapon hidden in the desert? or Emils Head or the ones you can buy from Emil or the one you get from the smith once you upgrade a weapon to lvl 4
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>>171565272
his unconditional love as a father
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So i've got endings A,B and D so far and I still don't know what to do with those random elevators/doors with the apologetic robots in front of them.

Will I gain access to those while pursuing C or E endings, or are they just side content that I haven't figured out how to access yet?
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>>171564987
The picture books are more about the machines communities rather than the bosses themselves (aside from some like Adam and Grun). It's pretty much explaining the machines are trying to copy human habits and concepts (love / sex / religion / hate etc) and some of them becoming insane from it (THIS CANNOT CONTINUE / BECOME AS GODS)
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>>171565461

Yep, got all those. Also got the spear from the "BECOME AS GODS" segment that you have to go back as after, as 9S in human form, to get.

I cannot figure out what the shit I am missing and these wiki's are useless.
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>>171565571
There's nothing there yet. Probably DLC rooms.
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>>171565682
Have you bought the one from Pascal?
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>>171565732

Those are the machine heads, right? I got those yeah.
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>>171565695
Oh. That's mildly disappointing. I guess that's what I get for having expectations.
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>>171565818
Have you fished the Iron Pipe?
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>>171565914

Yep, nabbed that too.
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Hello I just woke up.

Please give me 5 minutes and you'll have the new thread.
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>>171565950
Look through this and see which one you're missing
>>171562801
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>>171565951
you have 10 seconds
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NEW ROUTE
>>171566082
>>171566082
>>171566082
>>171566082
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>>171544230
Nice thought
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>>171544536
This one remind me of Kaine when i see the girl with white hair and that bis ass sword remind me about father Nier
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