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Cumming inside Jamyl's tight teen pussy.

>>170776305
>wanting to stick your dick inside a drifter cum dump on her 9th pregnancy

>new to EVE
>Playing in a small WH corp
>no one does anything in the actual hole, all chat communications between the corp members are HEY DO WE HAVE A HS CONNECTION YET

this game sucks ball

>>170776758
so find a better corp ffs

Can't get on

>Have all 4 racial frigate skills at level 4
>Want to fly stealth bomber, interceptor, and t2 scanning ships
>Paralyzing indecision keeps me from picking one to take to level 5
Help.

>>170776758
EVE is only as boring as you are.
If you drag yourself into something that is not fun, then stop doing it.

>>170776982
do all to V.
I would recommend Gallente first, solid tackle ceptor, solid combat ceptor, ok bomber, top tier scanner.

Then Minmatar or Amarr depending on which bomber or logi frig you want.
Caldari for last.

>>170776982
Amarr, malediction best interceptor and purifier best bomber.

wew lad
https://zkillboard.com/kill/60711833/

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>officer mods

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>return after 6 month hiatus
>undock my barely functional raven
>remember I'm in a 'small newbie friendly corp :^)'
>get jumped on the first gate

>>170776794
>>170777016

Leaving the corp after 1 week is kinda shitty boys, i don't know

>>170779728
only if you do it for no reason or if you did it to take advantage of them

if you are truly having no fun, they will understand.
Just tell them ahead of time that you are not enjoying wormholes and want to give everything else a try.

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New player, am I supposed to be getting shakes and adrenaline rushes from PVP? Because I am and no other game has ever caused this.

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>>170780693
>mfw grid loads

>>170780693
yes
just die more and it will go away over time

>>170780693
I'm a 2005 player and I still get adrenaline rush and sometimes tunnel vision during PvP. Fleet fights doesn't count.

>>170780693
its the only reason why I still play

>>170780693
been playing since 2010
I still get it
it's the only game where I get that feeling

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>tfw too intelligent to pvp

Daily reminder the moros has no advantages over the naglfar

>>170781852
cool
fly the nag then

>>170781993
buff the moros

>>170782012
maybe later
use the nag for now goy

>>170781852
Feels bad I should just hurry up and get my dread all into a bus

>not bringing links
>not bringing caps
>not getting bridged

>I got an idea
>lets make guns on a ship with less range, cap usage so bad it'll cap out the ship and less performance than another ship

>>170783086
>no point
>no grappler

>point
>capital

>he doesn't solo drop his caps
fucking nullbabs

>thrasher, wreathe, every other minmatar ship
>edgelord spikes for no fucking reason
this isn't sansha's nation fuck off

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>>170783086
>>170783275
>>170783356
>>170783441

>>170783086

Man projectile falloff is weird

>>170783539
Fuck the retards saying you need a point and grappler

you can't track shit with capital guns, use HAWS if you want to track shit

>>170783539
>anti cap weapons on a solo nag

Enjoy dying.

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>>170783661
>HAWS

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>+30 jumps to buy a skillbook

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>40 days to competently fly torp bomber

>>170783890
high angle weapon systems

>>170783916
>not having a jita jump clone

>>170780693
>tfw you used to play Dayz Mod
>tfw the constant loss of hard-earned items has desenitised you to any and all video-game related combat
>tfw don't even get angry at lag any more, just bemused

I honestly can't understand how people in this game still sperg out when they are in Blob fleets and other semi-end game content, why did they not welp more frigates early on?

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>want to go out and welp cheap frigates
>don't really like any of the t1 frigates

>>170785083
All the more reason to go out and get them blown up.

>sit in front of citadel at 5k
>guns have 3k range
>literally cannot hit a stationary target that covers half your field of view
huh

>>170785276
huh

>>170785083
Fly the Incursus

>NC
>good
https://zkillboard.com/kill/60720170/

>>170785276
Y-you do understand how falloff works, right? right?

>>170785553
He's saying its fucking retarded because what is stopping it from hitting, it takes up his whole field of view and its in space, not asking about game mechanics

>>170785276
Really makes you think

>>170785707
You could say that for tons of shit in Eve that doesn't make sense in regards to real life. Who cares?

>>170785276

What's hard to understand? You're that shit

>>170786012
>What's hard to understand?
I dunno, I should be asking you that. Reading comprehension nor brains a strong point of yours, huh

>>170786390

Just a joke. Autism is clearly your strong point m80

>>170786446
poe's law sorry

https://zkillboard.com/kill/60352983/

>Hauling 1.3b out of Jita in a completely unfit t1 indy, what could go wrong?

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Join Dronelands today! Quiet space for ratting, cheap rent systems. Comrade xXDEATHXx is waiting for you.

>>170787352

I'd rather have 2 decent systems than 4 shit ones

>can fly helios
>refuse to
It's just too ugly
help

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>>170787627
>stratops
>defense fleets
>structure bashing

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>>170787694
>ugly
take it back.

>>170787694
Fly the buzzard then

>>170787959
look at that face
look at those eyes
the eyes of a ship begging to be freed from this mortal coil of pain and suffering

>>170785707
Space has friction though, falloff is still a thing, along with the gravity of orbital bodies pulling the projectile off-course.

Is the Lif better than mino?

>>170788476
>eve
>realistic physics

>>170788917
There are a good number if situations where Eve is fucking retarded, but weapon falloff as a principal, along with altered falloff for certain weapons is not too bad.
I would just rather the system altered your falloff in relation to your distance to an orbital body, wouldn't be too hard to implement imho.

what's the difference between EANM and ANP? From what it seems EANM is always better

>Frigates become easier to hit if they're going sanic fast

>>170789272
Fitting.

>>170789162
in-universe 'drag' is explained as warp drives constantly dragging on spacetime even when not engaged (higgs anchor)
I guess you can think of optimal as the range the tracking computer can reliably track and hit a target, and falloff as the range where the tracking computer stops being able to compensate

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Is there a comprehensive list of all weapon "calibers", as it were? For example, small blasters alone have electron, ion and neutron, I can't be fucked to track down every one of them, and market groups are too cluttered with meta modules
thanks

>Ospreys create energy out of literally nothing

>>170789469
Except falloff and optimal is altered by weapon choice along with ship, implying it is affected both by onboard targeting systems and muzzle velocity, projectile mass, etc

The 'drag' doesn't even get me too much, with a strange explanation, I wanna see orbital bodies moving in relation to each other, tac points rearranging, etc
Tbh I would even like to see wormholes being more dangerous, as in, you have to be over the event horizon to scan them, but you can put thrusters to full in order to hold off for a fleet to gather and such.

>>170789670
in pyfa/eft the bigger guns have more powergrid requirements

>>170789680
Yeh this is a meme, I wish it would be removed, but fuck it, CCP just wanted to trigger autists like us with this one.

>>170779728
Sunk costs fallacy right there.

Ask your self this:

Is the marginal benefit of staying one more day in the corp greater than the marginal cost of staying in the corp for one more day?

That makes your decision.

>>170789697
>Except falloff and optimal is altered by weapon choice along with ship, implying it is affected both by onboard targeting systems and muzzle velocity, projectile mass, etc
it's just hard to explain hitscan guns with real physics
orbital mechanics honestly doesn't belong in eve, aside from the problems with having to do all those calculations and bookmarks moving around
planets with rotating surfaces would be nice though
if you want orbital mechanics there's many different games with them

>>170780693
It will cool over time.

But no matter what, in every fight I'm in, the feeling is with me in the back of my head.

It's why I still play this game.

>>170789884
Why do orbital mechanics not belong?
I mean, the game has a retardedly steep learning curve as it is, why not make it just a little bit harder (and stop tac fags marking their entire systems) and be a total jizzfest for physicsfags and spacefags?
Rotating surfaces at the very least, and I would like to see space stations, gates, COs, ships, etc with some spin relative to each other, as obviously they would not be perfectly still when under such little affect from any one gravitational body.

>>170790043
>Why do orbital mechanics not belong?
the game just isn't designed for it
how would bookmarks work?
would they be relative to the nearest SOI or relative to the center of the solar system?

>>170790153
Bookmarks would be near pointless, as in, they only work at a certain time and date.
I would say make them relative to some "universal center", as retarded an opinion as that is, seeing as Eve appears to have most systems both explored, and static in relation to other systems.

oneiros

noiros

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DED game.
>mfw FC says hold on gate and I jump anyway

Are marauders any good for doing sites?

>Balle is in TiDi
???

>>170793345
carriers do a better job at the same cost

>guardians gala skin
>cool silver/grey camo theme that transitions to some sort of shitstain glossy red
Why did they have to add the red it was fine without the red now it looks shit
jesus christ CCP

hml bellicose

Join ASCEE

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>>170795798
>anti-scam announcement for newbros on Eve Gate main corp page

Just Goons, doing Goons things.

>>170793871
xmas theme, spergo

i've just downloaded isk per hour and i've copied the bpc list from a contract is there a way to import into IPH and figure out the profit?

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>>170796447
They cant fuck you once you're in so they gotta do it before you can join.

>le recruit scam meme

>>170796450
>February
>silver grey and rust brown
>christmas
where the fuck do you live

what sov alliance should I put my alt in?

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join gon

what's the difference between citadels and engineering complexes?

>>170797903
citadel is basically a station
engineering complex is more for production

>>170797970
Are services different? Otherwise I don't see why anyone would rather build a citadel than an engineering complex which I assume would have production bonuses

>>170798018
citadels have better defenses
keepstars can also dock supers

Citadels combat rigs are better. Citadels have more fitting and more health. Fortizars can dock capitals and keepstars can dock supers, while sotiyos can only dock capitals.

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>>>/v/370199249

>>170798583
hah epic xd

I'm new, and I'm ratting in null-sec with a cormorant, but I have no idea what else I should be doing. I'm earning ISK but have no idea what to spend it on as it doesn't look like I can upgrade anything on my fit. I feel like I'm just watching ships orbit each other for no real purpose. What should I do?

>>170799819
join a corp

>>170800391
I'm part of a corp, the newbie channel is dead and I don't understand a word they're saying in the fleet channel.

>>170800471
Ask them about things you don't understand.

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>NC unironically running from PM/Snuff

lmao m8.

>>170800471
eve has an extremely steep learning curve that is not helped by the game devs, the game itself, or players making acronyms for everything. Ask them questions or you'll probably never learn much.

ded gaym.

>>170799819
>>170800471
Join more channels. Idle in 'Help', 'E-UNI' and '/v/ Bros'

>I'm earning ISK but have no idea what to spend it on as it doesn't look like I can upgrade anything on my fit

Get a training clone with some implants and a few PVP ships. If you really have no idea what to spend your Isk on just save it for injectors and bigger ships.

oneiros

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>Pandemic Horde

>horde miners

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>>170806343
>>170806353
>tfw I have had a front row seat to this

>krabs hitting the station after the fleet has been in system for 10-15 minutes
>newfags still oblivious to what is going on
>known hotdropper starts it and rork retard goes into siege
>Darkness Ferox fleet turning up just to say hey

Rip this fucking corp, I don't know why I stay here.
They really knew how to get us back for the cap kill.

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>>170807323
It just gets better...
https://zkillboard.com/br/89027/

>>170807774
How do you lose 25 carriers?

>>170807949
I honestly don't know, these cucks are addicted to welping into fights that we clearly can't take.
50+ tengus on grid and we are told to try and fight. With a mix of T1s and Caps.

>>170807949

They dropped the faxes on the rorqs to save them and the carriers 100k off where the rorqs were.

Init was waiting with a dread/mach bomb to jump in on the carriers.

>>170808642
I thought we lost most of the carriers after the bomb when no one warped out?

ded

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>Goons

Whats an alright not too big wormhole corp to join? PvE and PvP. Wormbros? Is W-Space recruiting? I need to git gud so no Oruze for me at this point.

>>170812590
Hard Knots
Hole Next Door
Incredulity of Cuckolds
All-Out

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>All-Out

Which corp has the most Yiff?

>>170813437
in hell furfag

>>170813437
Hard Knots

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>>170813608
>>170813437

>Be in Horde
>This happens overnight https://zkillboard.com/br/89027/
>Suddenly don't want to be in Horde

>killboard stats

>>170813437
SergalJerk

>>170795798

Why should I join the laughingstock of goons?

Fuck, one night away and I miss this? How was the rage/tears in comms? Is horde dead?

>>170815615
Not really lol. Horde is not Brave.

>>170815615
Horde isn't being camped by a large ass alliance. Even if they were, they'd be supported by PL and most of the northern alliances.

>supported by PL

>>170819426
?

>Dragoon

>tfw 5th mid on hurricane never

>tfw shieldbabbies will never stop shitfitting hurricanes

>>170821997
shield tanking is superior to armor tanking pleb

>>170822264
*tips F1 nullblob*

Hi guys I'm back and I haven't played since like 2003 and oh god what the fuck is happening

Seriously though I'm kind of completely lost, they've added a lot of new shit since I last played. I think the last thing I was there to see them add was battlecruisers, even.

What's an easy way to ease myself back into things and make some pocket isk while checking out the new stuff? Is planetary base stuff out of my league as a lone player, for example?

>blob
>shield

>>170822358
>Is planetary base stuff out of my league as a lone player, for example?
If you're referring to Planetary Interaction then no, it's easy to set up and maintain solo.

>>170822358
>2003
The game is literaly 100% differrent

>>170816287
what's wrong with brave

>>170822535
Cool beans! It seemed like a pretty cool idea so I'm glad I don't need a PoS megacorp or whatever to get into it.

>>170822607
I noticed, it's kind of crazy. Seems cool though.

>>170822662
Here are some resources to help you set it up.

http://www.thonky.com/eve-online-guide/planetary-interaction

http://eveplanets.com/

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>>170822662
If you want to PI, you are still gonna need a quiet piece of lowsec or a solo WH corp. Planets in hisec are gay shit

>>170822847
>>170822980
Thanks a bunch guys, really glad I asked for advice here now.

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>really glad I asked for advice here

Well thank god you didn't pop in during the HML Bellicose argument thread.

Daily reminder heavy missiles are shit

>>170807949
easy, you drop carriers when they have dreads
dreads do like 3 times more dps than a carrier

Is it just me, or has Horde been welping a lot more fleets lately?

>lately

>>170823939
daily reply that they're only shit now relative to all the insane buffs to drones, medium long range guns and rapid memes

>>170825728
>all the insane buff to drones
drones haven't been touched since 2013 and they've only been nerfed since

>>170825798
>drone damage amplifiers
>augmented drones and geckos
>more drone ships with better stats
>kinetic and EM drones improved a lot

ddas are the main one. before that, drones-only ships always did no dps, so nobody was all that concerned that they all effectively had infinite range and no way to mitigate their damage

>>170826081
>>drone damage amplifiers
they didn't have a drone damage mod like all other weapon systems did like heat sinks, mag stabs and BCS's
>augmented drones and geckos
hyper over priced and no one but blops pilots use them. These are fringe examples and still they were nerfed in multiple ways.
>more drone ships
no its been the same drone ships for a long time, only relatively recently was the gila given an adjusted bonus to drones in the last 2 years
>kinetic and EM drones
because they were shit and no one used them because hobgoblins were explicitly better.

Ships like the ishtar were successively nerfed over and over until they lost a 5th mid for a 6th low that ultimately crippled it as a usable fleet doctrine. Sentries were repetitively nerfed over a year to being absolutely garbage. No one uses gardes and curators lost tracking and range. Wardens have no tracking and bouncers lost optimal in exchange for falloff.

Then Drone Damage Amps were nerfed from 22% on a T2 to 20.5% which ultimately lost them 7% of their total DPS nominally. They have not been buffed in any statistical way in years.

Drone only ships used to use rigs for extra damage which were never viable.

You used to be able to run as many drones as you had bandwidth so people would use the best drone per damage drone which was light drones. A dominix could have 25 light drones with 125mb/s bandwidth until they were nerfed and rebalanced

>>170826081
>>kinetic and EM drones improved a lot
they were actually rebalanced

EM and Kinetic drones received increases in some damage, acolyte speed was reduced, warrior speed was reduced. Hobgoblins did the most damage but had the worst speed, range and tracking. Next being acolytes with less damage but more optimal and more speed, kinetic the same, less damage, more tracking more speed and warriors, the least damage, most speed and tracking

>>170826685
also gilas and worms lost a lowslot reducing their potential dps by 16%

>>170826685
>they didn't have a drone damage mod like all other weapon systems did like heat sinks, mag stabs and BCS's

their introduction was a massive buff for drones and the start of them being a non-meme weapon, but their total lack of range constraints and ways to mitigate damage has made them pretty retarded. obviously their delayed damage means combat drones have problems in retarded blob pvp, but that doesn't mean they're fine the rest of the time

>>170826863
I'm well aware of what they did m8, you don't need to read out the changes to me

>>170827040
>I'm well aware of what they did m8, you don't need to read out the changes to me
You made it out like they were buffed when really they were rebalanced as a whole. There wasn't some net positive other than the EM and Kinetic drones actually had a use over hoboblins

>>170827158
getting more good damage type options is a buff to drones

>>170822621
Nothing. Being in BRAVE is just playing EVE on hard mode.

small ancillary shield booster

>>170829242
breacher

breacher is top tier, kys

>>170829640
>literally kestrel

>>170829726
shit at frigates confirmed, please die

>implgnyi

>kestrelfags
https://zkillboard.com/kill/60733909/

>>170827296
No its not when they also lost stats in other ways.

>>170829640
>>kestrelfags
breacher is shit

tormenter is better

>mementor

>I can't come up with a reason why something is bad so I'll integrate "meme" into its name

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>>170776758
Grab a scanner ship and shephard the lost sheep between the holy lands of YOUR HOLE and Jita IV: Navy Assembaly Plant. Let them praise you for your holy skills, of not being a lazy fuck like them.

Does anyone else thing capital fitting is really off? when ever I fit my capitals they always have a lot of excess PG or I'm over by 10%+ and theres little I can do about it.

All the PG values of capitals and the PG usage of some of the capital mods are way too fucking weird and nothing like sub capital fitting where I might be over by maybe 1-3% nominally

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>>170781852
Not wanting to fly the mothership

>>170785083
>not liking the slasher
>not liking the slicer/crucifier or executioner
>not liking the firetail
>not liking the rifter
>not liking the merlin
I can understand the disgust at all the asymetrical shit but c'mon man.

>>170831078
>lasers

it's not even worth considering, unless you're doing memesec plex pvp, which is invalid

>>170832673
>rockets
It's not even worth considering, unless you're doing memesec plex pvp which is invalid

>>170832948
but the kestrel isn't good in memesec

>>170833050
neither is the breacher

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I flew in a nano gang today /eog/

how bad am i

>>170833095
yes

>>170833186
no, the tormentor is better

>>170833507
only in memesec

>>170833563
no, everywhere

>>170833650
it's trash when it's not 1v1ing frigates

>>170833703
the tormentor is better everywhere the breacher would be

>>170833992
it can't mitigate damage nearly as well
it can't apply damage while mitigating damage
its tank can be outdamaged very easily
lmao em therm

>>170834117
>it can't mitigate damage nearly as well
yes it can, it can pull range and kite because of its beams
>it can't apply damage
yes it can, tracking doesn't matter as much at 20km hence a kite
>tank can be out damaged
getting hit? you're doing it wrong

>>170834198
>20km kiting tormentor

I thought you were smarter than this honestly

>>170834343
>that doesn't count because I said so

>>170834481
I thought we were talking about actual good tormentor fits

a kiting tormentor doesn't count because it's garbage and will die instantly to everything and it's not even fast. it probably even has cap problems lol

>>170822358
It's generally a good idea to join some newbie-friendly corp that will explain you stuff, even if you're not really a newbie like Pandemic Horde. Unless you're ''''''''''''''deaf''''''''''''''' aka autistic /dog/ poster who can't interact with other people. But it doesn't seem like you are.

>>170834609
>I thought we were talking about actual good tormentor fits
it is a good fit, its a dank kitefit like a poormans slicer without paying 20m,

Are command dessies good for solo? If so does anyone have any good fits?

>>170841440
yea they're great

>>170841440
big tank/survivability, shit dps. I see people soloing with them, but I think being more aggressive and damagey is better

>>170776758

You don't bring work to home, anon. Home is where you relax and do your PI once a day, maybe some indu&research.

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>>170841850
I've been playing with this

>>170843785
>no mjd

why though, it's like a shitty t3d

>Not flying the best T1 frigate, the Incursus

>>170844065
I don't really know how a MJFG would help in solo pvp

sure I could sneak up on someone then MJ them away from a gate or something but I can't find a good purpose for it.

Does the Multi Character training offer (if you sub for more than 1 month, you can freely train your alt in your account) still going?

>>170844185
you can also use it like a normal mjd but with fast cycle

>>170841440
Magus can solo, look into oversized AB fits with reps.

>>170844207
I don't think so.

>>170844207
>>170845798
If it is it should show up on https://secure.eveonline.com/upgrade/ when you're not logged in

How do we fix pirate faction ships?

>>170847183
>reduce extra hitpoints from +50% down to something reasonable
>remove special agility

some of them like gurista and mordu need special attention though

>>170847183

Nerf speed 25% (kitecancer ships), buff shields 25-40%, reduce hull 50% (they're pirates, they don't give a shit about their creature comforts, just performance). Maybe buff dps 10-20% depending on ship type. Blood and Sansha sure could use it.

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>>170844207
>subbed for a year
>2 days later they run that

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Glory Holers, get off my hole
REEEEEEEEEEE

>>170847183
Lower blueprint drop rate.

>>170849691

Why? If anything, there should be more multiple run prints. They could change the prints to requires some tags or something you only get from some rare escalation or whatever.

T2 BPOs should be obtainable again
BPCs should be erased from the game
Faction ships, charges and modules are created by initiating an "improvement project" that risks damaging the item (much like invention works) to produce a higher quality of it

debate me

>>170849946

Fuck no. T2 BPO's should be straight up deleted.

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>not just doing a straight 20 or 25% bonus

>>170850107
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for T2 being manufacturable only from invention, but it wont happen because too many people will cry how they got scammed by CCP out of their 100bil BPO

They should just slowly start making them obtainable, from really rare to somewhat common in the timeframe of two years, that way no one will be able to whine

>>170850176
what's the problem

>>170850331
most other caldari ships don't have specific missile damage bonuses anymore
the drake used to only have a damage bonus for kinetic missiles

>>170850570
does the tengu still have a kin bonus?

>>170850309

No. Fuck the richfuck whiners. Delete and move on to more important things.

>>170849850
The problem with Machs is that they are easily available. Lowering the blueprint drop rate would fix that.

>>170850645
yes
I'm hoping they fix it with the coming T3C changes

>>170850570
I think more kin only bonuses would be good, if they're like the hookbill

the drake is one of the worst ones, since its damage is 50% kinetic, meaning you're only doing 2/3 of normal damage if you don't use kin

>>170850689

Mach needs a nerf, is all.

>>170847530
write ticket))

>>170851203
even if you nerf it, if there continues to be no scarcity, the prices on these things will keep dropping and t1/navy bs will still never get used

>>170851203
Buff T1 and the other faction BSes instead.

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>there's no abaddon navy issue
>there's no rokh navy issue
>there's no hyperion navy issue
>there's no maelstrom fleet issue

>>170851858
do you have any ideas for how to make them interesting, or would they just be awful pleb shit extra hp more slots more damage

>Literally no corp will have Hyperion or Abaddon doctrines because of Mach meme meta

>>170852083
>8 guns
>tank bonus
>largest hull size out of all racial battleships (lowest agility)
>all have some flaws like poor capacitor due to having 8 guns
I think a 4 hardpoint/100% bonus with some command bonuses would be neat
honestly I just want the navy paint job on the rokh

>>170852083

4 highslots, 2 turret/launcher slots
can fit a single xl gun
can fit capital mods
capital fitting role bonuses

Remove T1s, change * Issue ships into T1s, buff all the other T2 and factions except Mach, make the hull designs into skins. Case closed.

>>170852529
>meta
actually it's because machs are better

>>170852583
>tank bonus
please no

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>corp joins nullsec alliance
>mining Bistot in my new barge
>CTA ping goes out
>fleet is full and the last time I tried to join I got bullied by the FC because I couldn't fly a Keres
>keep mining
>our fleet jumps into my system
>ceptor warps in and scambles me
>fleet blows up my Procuror because I was ''''krabbing'''' during a strat op
>my CEO tells me there's nothing he can do
>"just log off during CTA if you don't want to PVP, anon"

>minerfag tears

>>170853106
Join TEST lol

>bullied by the FC because I couldn't fly a Keres

nobody should give a shit about EAFs

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>shit that never happened posted by autard who can't function and feels insignificant in a big alliance.

what ship do you guys main?

>>170853106
Tell me this is Bovril's latest mistake?
I left as soon as the Winter War was shaping up, knowing that leaving CO2 was gonna destroy us.

Joined Horde though, luckily I wasn't mining last night.

>>170853807
Astrahus

>>170853807
Keepstar

>>170853807
>what ship do you guys main?

stratios

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>maining ugly structures

>>170853923
Not in Bovril, we joined Army of New Eden

>>170853807
Jita 4-4

>>170853807

Ownership.

>>170853807
Friendship

>having friends in eve

>>170853807
Championship

>there are no corps that do the things you want to do in this game
>you will never have a close knit group of people that you log into VoIP ever night and shoot the shit with

feels fucking bad man

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Why is it so hard to get wealthier in this game?

>>170855520
nice graph without legend, cocksucker

>>170855691
blue is Isk, green assets, red net worth

>>170855962
you have more net than what the average player would ever need in their game life. why do you need more for unless you want to welp titans for the shits

>>170855520
How are you trying to make isk?

>>170852746
>>tank bonus
>please no
what?
they already have tank bonuses

>>170856823
and then you'll give them more hp and slots because faction, and they'll end up being double cancer

>>170855146
>>you will never have a close knit group of people that you log into VoIP ever night and shoot the shit with
my corp is like that

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https://zkillboard.com/kill/60748016/

>>170856961
but they most likely dont do what I want to do. I like mining and pvp, but every corps seems to be either harcore carebears afraid of fighting a noobship, or harccore pvpers who never do any isk-making activity and just plex their shit like the good cucks they are for CCP.

I want to bait mine and have back ups, I want people to organize for mining ops and have an actual defense wing ready to go.

just doesnt exist. ded gaem

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>>170857210

>>170853807

Censorship

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>>170857210

>>170856363
Mostly station trading and market seeding with some VNI ratting and exploration on the side. I've tried invention but didn't really make much, now I'm training up PI alts.

>>170856317
I don't even feel like I can afford to fly caps.

>>170857741
In what way are you market seeding? There's a lto of moey to be made in lowsec seeding, but it's nowhere near what you can make seeding sov null. Seeding sovnull is way harder, of course, but you already know that.
Drone region is just brain dead ratting with the occasional roamer coming in to kill the krabs, so just join one of the alliances that are part of a coalition like DCU then just put up standard fare items like Praetors (specifically navy praetors as most of the ratters who dedicate themselves go straight for fighters instead of tech 2), VNI's, Rattlesnakes, and then when you find the right market, fighters. Especially with the upcoming changes, fighters will become a much higher volume market.
Dronelands are fairly easy to get into, but the profits are limited. Instead, you can try to associate with some large sov-holding alliances that have weak industrial capabilities, such as Brave and to a lesser extent TEST. The best thing to do is to basically dedicate a JF character to one side of the conflict, because if you try to use that JF character in a traditionally opposing alliance, the spies will just rat you out and you'll never strike a deal, and you'll also be fucked from getting any more deals from the original client(s). You can do two things by dedicating a JF to a single coalition: One, bring your own goods in to seed the markets and dictate how much you're willing to make per cubic meter or whatever metric you chose or Two, run a Jita -> sov HQ route in the JF holding a cargohold full of goods that you charge a certain amount per cubic meter (with a certain value as minimum). With each run netting you a one million isk fee minimum, you can end up making 500 million to 2 billion isk every week just for moving shit.
Be sure to train into more JF characters and more indy characters to produce high demand shit when it starts to pay off. Also, stay anonymous.

>>170859597
I think you'd need a lot of knowledge to seed in lowsec. nearly everyone just ships ship+setup in from highsec trade hubs. I don't think many people buy much shit in lowsec, except maybe big groups who will seed their own station anyway and probably shoot you

>>170860075
You're unlikely to make a whole lot of money seeding shallow lowsec, but in places like Aridia, Khanid, Placid, and a few systems in Black Rise, you can make a decent amount of money selling commonly used modules/ships/ammo along with picking up some goods that people may be selling for extremely low prices (rare, but it happens). Putting a region-wide buy order in these places for certain resources that's much below the sell or even the buy value in the nearest trade hub could also net you a good deal of money, just be sure to set a minimum volume.
Also, finding a corp that has good potential to thrive in these less secure areas could be a nice source of income. Often times they start in highsec, so look there first. When they say they're moving to lowsec/npc null, that's when you jump on the opportunity and start offering services. Don't act new to the game, just talk about how you're a veteran interested in new experiences and don't want to be surrounded by bittervets. Usually these corps will have very active leadership with a modestly active base who'll engage in a lot of corp-wide activities such as roams, pve fleets or wormhole day trips. I'd be careful of sticking to a corp that wants to move into a wormhole though, as you'll have to fully understand the logistical structure and potential of the corp and the day-to-day activities everyone engages in, which may end up eating too much of your time and cutting you out of other less time consuming opportunities.
Just make 3-6 alpha accounts, join a bunch of corps after a week or two of existence is on record, then pay attention to what the corp is talking about. If they use voice very often you should probably use it, as these people aren't really concerned with any backstabbing as they don't have sov to lose (and they won't ever need to share structure rights to anyone but other leadership). Just be sure to be active in these corps so that anxiety about you doesn't crop up.

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oi lads has anything changed with exploration in the last 6 months except for the shitty relic/data analyzer abomination hybrid? Sansha nu//wspace/ghost sites/escalations still the big money?

>>170859597
>In what way are you market seeding?
I ship stuff from Jita to a few lesser hubs and some FW space lowsec systems.

I'm in a sovnull alliance but I've only got one JF pilot atm and he's in NPC corp and also my empire hauler. I should probably just train JF skills on my main, he's only a few weeks off.

>>170861762
Data sites are getting more blueprints drops, specifically lots more Armor repairers for some reason. These dont cost a lot to build and are usually in alright demand so that may make them not complete wastes of time.

>>170862770
Small Ancillary Armor Repairers have been going for retarded prices like 5-6m for years. That alone is more than enough reason.

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>piece of ambient spacejunk flies past your screen and you think it's someone warping in to kill you
Wormhole life is stressful when you're alone.

>>170863039
>4000 systems
>100 people

Terrifying

>>170862770
>lots more armor repairers

they're still only in highsec I think. I've seen zero in lowsec and wormholes

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just curious this seems like one of only a few places that isn't massively controlled by a few large groups.

why don't they just invade it like the rest of sov?

>>170863235
smells really bad

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>>170863145
>no way of knowing when one is about to drop a Proteus on you
Wormholers are murder rapists out for blood, it's too fucking boring and paranoia inducing not to be.

>>170844317
right but in a committed brawl I'm probably scrammed and can't get away so I feel the MJFG isn't suitable

>>170847183
Nothing, they're entitled to their special racial gimmicks because they're of special dual racial benefit

If anything only the Orthrus needs nerfing, the fucker is oppressive to the rest of the pirate line and cruisers by default

>>170863719

Either you're cloaked and get the drop on someone who's defenseless or you're not cloaked and they just warp out when you pop up on d scan.

Sounds boring as shit to me

>>170864349
I'd think it super obvious to anyone who has ever undocked solo, but you can't fuck around slingshotting every faggy long point scrub tackler who shows up on grid. mjd is love, I use it before or after basically every engagement on every ship that can fit it. it really gives you a huge edge against noncommittal kite shitters

>>170864473
and gila

>>170863235
Scalding pass and wicked creek are crappy regions no one would rent.

>>170864942
>and gila

Every drone ship is cancer for fights involving less than 5 people

>>170869342
it depend show they're fit, I think. drone ships do lend themselves to a lot of broken kitey or oversized prop fits, which are gay as shit, but not everyone fits them like that. got to target the nerfs at those things and not just shit all over valid uses

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>>170857348
I do that in BNI
>solo'd a svipul in muh procurer
nerds die to procurers as they learn their engagement profile

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>7 killmarks on a mining barge

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I think I finally figured out how drones and fighter weapons work

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how much do you think these things will go for?

>>170864990

Why exactly they are crappy?

>>170874319
nice picture senpai, but i think they'd use prism with total internal refection rather than a mirror

>>170874595
not a lot of systems with low truesec, which means much fewer resources

>>170857348
>I want people to organize for mining ops and have an actual defense wing ready to go.
horde did that and just look at the thread

It's been well of a year, why the fuck did I stick with the shithole that is horde so long

>>170876673
It's okay, anon, this is a safe space. No one will judge you for being a masochist.

How many mini injectors can I get from the NPE?

>>170876764
The only thing I like about it is usually being able to log in and find a fleet while remaining mostly unnoticed. Everything else is driving me up a wall.

>>170876981
>small corp of competent players
>log on to nothing, sleepy people or not much happening
>huge corp of shitters
>always fleets, roams, mining, camps, something to do or someone to ask about stuff.
a longer term approach is to make friends in the large group, start doing things further and further away from the herd, then make your own corp and go own somewhere or haze something.
That's how so much of BO-LD went from Brave to PL.

>>170851203
It doesn't.

>be in horde
>do whatever I want
>never get called out
comfy

>>170879540
>be in horde
>actively shit up the corp
>nobody is able to stop me

This is the best thing about it desu, stealing combat sites, warping to fleet members and salvaging their shit, taking gates while the FC screeches to wait, never being in comms during a form up call, ignoring all pings, tackling ally ships.
It's the most fun I've had in 3 years of this shitty game desu.

oneiros

If I'm having trouble hitting shit with my turrets, is it better to load tracking computers and make my turrets faster or to fit target painters and make them bigger?

>target painters

>>170881341
Target painters, they also help you target them faster.

>>170881341

Tracking computers unless you have painter bonuses. Ignore the retard above

I like rage FC's because they keep shitters it line or purge them.

initiated compact warp scrambler

IFFA Compact Damage Control

Pseudoelectron containment field

bellicose navy issue
50% web range role bonus

the way eve names its modules are stupid and in no way helps a new or even slightly experienced player know what said module does

50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive should be 50MN Compact Y-T8 Microwarpdrive so people can find it better, etc
What the fuck are the differences between the shield boosters?
Why isn't there a list of weapons without the meta variants?
Why do I have to set up a fit, then hover my mouse over each possible rig to see what it does? Warhead Calefaction Catalyst? Powergrid Subroutine Maximizer? The fuck?
Barium Firework? Copper Firework? Why not just Red and Blue?

shit's fucking dumb, yo

Don't even get me started on deadspace modules

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>>170886995
ur dumb

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>>170886995

>>170887156
>>170887106
>no actual argument
Prove me wrong

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>>170882385
>they also help you target them faster.
You need get a lock first to apply it you retarded nigger.

>no XL smartbomb
fug

>no xl shield extender

>>170887295
there are capital shield extenders though

capital aren't xl

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Something's fucky

Redpill me on the breacher.

>>170888070
All minny T1 frigs suck ass
Get a Talwar

>>170784628
Same.

>Spent 30 days ontop of the hotel in chernarus with a tent setup with all the food one could want back when infinite ammo was possible by splitting DMR mags.

So many people and helicopters died during that time.

that mod definitely helped reduce the effect one feels when dying in other games...

Should I train into a t3d or are they going to nerf them into the ground in the future?

Also
>t2 takes longer to train than t3

>joined corp
>stopped playing for 2 weeks because of circumstances, didn't even log in
>afraid to log in because i will get bullied for joining and not doing anything.

>>170886995

They have already had several iterations of improvements and most of the names, including your examples, are very obvious.

>50mn Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Is the 50mn compact version.

>Warhead Calefaction catalyst
Even with their purposely vague name, "calefaction catalyst" should give you a rough idea and its not hard to remember

>powergrid subroutine maximiser
Are you merely pretending?

>>170888330

T3 has tight fitting and you need better than T2 skills to arm/fly it decently.

>>170888313
>running to top of castle with DMR and 12 mags, ghillie, hiking pack full of goodies
>glitch through wall of retarded staircase and die

I agree, I feel nothing while gaming anymore.

>>170888534
>>powergrid subroutine maximiser
>Are you merely pretending?
One would think that increase your PG but no it doesn't, so no, I'm not joking

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>>170886995
You know that "i" icon near the top of the market page for a certain item?
You can click it.